001Good evening. This is a meeting of the finance committee forward education. Um today's Wednesday, August 20th and it is 6:31 p.m. I'm Jeff Pro, committee chair. In attendance we have um committ committee members William Deina Ritson Extra Menace um board members Albert Benahan. Um nine we have board members Andre Woodson, Joseph Salivic that's all for board members all nine. Um the first item on the agenda is approval of the meeting minutes from the special meeting June 4th 2025. >> So moved by Mr. Medina second >> and second by Miss Estra men. >> Any discussion on that? >> All in favor say I. >> I. >> All righty. Moving on. That passes. Um the next item is referral to the full board the Bridgeport Adult Education Lease Agreement renewal at 418 Cass Street. Dr. >> U.
002Good evening everyone. I couldn't handle it. This a renewal of the adult education center where they're located. Uh it was owned by the district by Catholic Church. So this has been vetted by the city attorney's office. So that when it just to make sure that the district is immediate safe from ability, it's a three-year extension of lease fiscal year 2066, 2027, 2028 with a 3% annual increase each year, which to me is moderate for commercial We have any questions for Mel? >> Nope. >> Profess um I have it. It's not so much a a question as it is a comment. Um, back in March, I had requested um for consideration language to contracts to help mitigate potential liability in situations where, you know, we might have to cut. Um, and I had provided that information
003or that language um to Danielle and I thought that language was getting added to all the contracts. And in addition to that um also the chair's signature so that all contracts are valid and fully executed upon the chair of the board's signature and I don't see either of those two that would have to go through a policy. If I may clarify as to what your concern is, that's why the is being brought before the finance committee is being brought before the board. But the board ratifying it or the finance committee ratifying the lease with the minutes and the board ratifying the the lease with the minutes is authentic as anything as good as if not better than individual sign if I'm sorry board member sign. So >> it's a pool board approved or full committee
004approved. So where's the pool board approved? Put a copy of the entire lease agreement sent to the board in advance. >> Yep. So I appreciate that, but that language is specific. If we need to cut make cuts and we need to get out of a contract, it would allow us to do that without suffering any type of financial situations. >> Well, true, Madam Chair. Again, this uh this uh the adult is being funded by state grant 100%. So, there's no district money. If you cut the money has to be spent in again the question becomes where are they going to what vocation are they going to be to educate these children I'm sorry not children adults or students but it's 100% funed funded by adult education grant fun there's no district money involved it's a
005payment of Mr. Griff chair, let me let me explain a bit. I think what she's trying to say is making sure that there's again that's why most of these contracts or all contracts moving forward are going to be vetted by our attorneys, you know, and they are the ones who are willing to justify and make sure that legally we have that that out clause. Uh, and when we sent a couple other contracts to to city attorneys, that was the only reason we were able to get out of it because they put language in it from an attorney standpoint. I'm not an attorney. I can't I can't draft that kind of language. But that's why we're doing that moving forward so that we have the ability to get out, you know, in any circumstances. So, not
006every single contract that we that we're going to create and make is going to have, you know, specific language about if we have financial, you know, um, issues in the district, we need to be able to get out of the clause. Some companies won't negotiate that when you when you trying to bargain with them or when you try to negotiate the contract with them. So again, this has been sent to the attorneys for that purpose to make sure that there is a I don't know what that outl the outlaw message >> in this particular instance but I know when all our all the contracts that we're doing goes to this to the city attorney's office to embed just that. Uh again, I don't know exactly the terms of that and you know the specifics in
007the contract, but I think we we're able to get out if there's a an issue uh that both parties agree upon. >> Okay, that makes me feel a little bit better. And then in terms of grants, so let's say things are unpredictable these days. What if all of a sudden, you know, we don't get a grant, but the we have a contract that's two or three years out are contracts such as this one that are grants grant driven. >> Will that language also be on those contracts because they think that kind of helps safeguard us? I'm thinking with this particular, if I'm, you know, correct me if I'm wrong, Nester, the the adult ed grant is, I think it's a three-year grant. And I think Hannah may be online. >> No. Okay. I don't know.
008>> Hannah, are you on? >> Yes, I'm here. >> Yep, I'm here. >> Can you hear me? Okay. >> Yes, ma'am. What is the length of this particular uh grant? Is this being fun? >> I can look it up for you briefly. Okay. I have to log into the system. So, it'll take me maybe about four or five minutes. >> Okay. So, >> when you have the answer, if you just throw your hand up, I'll I'll call on you. >> Okay, that sounds good. Thank you, >> Mr. Medina. >> No, go ahead. Join, please. >> Mr. >> Yes, thank you. Uh, Mr. quo um through you, Madam Chair. Um what percentage did you say it escalates every year? >> 3%. >> Three. >> Yeah, 3%. >> All right. Thank you. My My ears were off.
009I thought I heard 20 and I was going to freak out. >> I wouldn't bring it before. >> Thank you. Thank you, >> Mr. Bahan. >> Thank you, Madam Chair. I have some question because I know I was there in that building years back question. I don't know um Dr. or Mr. Anesto. The parking lot >> the parking lot at that place is terrible to walk. It's very bad. I'm talking about terrible. If you don't see how you don't see the floor, you can feel I'm talking you know it's very bad. That's one. Um I know they talk um another place. I know they check for the one in 100 Lafayette. It was the top on the floor, but they decide not to because a lot of parent that was spanning from another country. The
010FBI department did this too. So decide not to do it. And then we checked the one in middle street behind the the the hotel closing that time behind. It was another I went to see the former and then it was beautiful. It was nice. I don't know that I don't know what happened but that didn't change. Um I know they have some issue the handicap issue in that building. terrible terrible terrible terrible terrible you know somebody as me there they can't take that stairs the floor part is very bad person like the way chair or walker is is is bad and I know some repair had to be the building the last time they spoke and talk that the person in charge of the place is not going to be in charge to repair anything
011have to be boe I all that stuff stay standby I don't know what happened I don't know if you can give me an answer maybe when you get a and you can figure it out, you know, a lot of things because that sits top. I can send it to you and figure it out what's going on. >> You can do that through here. I think that that will be helpful now for me because I don't know the details behind previously what was was considered uh and I Nester is there anything in in that that talks about the facility and the upgrade of the facility and all that? I'm not 100% sure. Uh, and Marge, if you may be able to get Leah Stevens online, uh, if you have her number to to get her so
012she can jump online that she may be able to give us a little bit better viewpoint on that as well. >> I mean, knowing a little bit about real estate or leases, this is a very good lease, commercial lease. It's not a triple net lease. Triple net lease is whereby you pay the rent, you pay the water bill, you pay the sewer be the sewer bill, you pay the tax. That's triple net le just pay flat rent. So it it's a very wonderful commercial but the church churches from paying taxes but you know that there's no separate media. So they have to pay the entire water bill and the sewer. So I mean to me I don't see any and there's no bridge there's no bridge here of of breaching a leak to hold you
013accountable. That's why again I'm not a lawyer that's why they kind of broke down with each year renewal. If you can't afford it, I don't think you come to the church or the church and go to student district 11. I mean, this is asking very straightforward just to answer the question. >> Thank you. >> Yes. Thank you. Um, before I say, um, Nester, could you confirm to me, is this lease paid for with adult ed PEP or is it just regular adult ed? >> Uh, Hannah, could you answer because I know it came with a >> All right. I asked I asked to answer the question. So, um, the district receives two adult education grants. Um, one is called state adult ed. Um, that grant is a one-year grant. The second adult education grant that
014the district receives is through federal monies and that's called adult ed PEP P. Um, that second grant, adult ed, which stands for program enhancement projects, is a three-year grant. So depending on which specific grant this lease is um saying it's being funded through, if it is the state adult ed grant, that is a one-year grant. If it is adult ed PEP PEP, that is a three-year grant. >> Good chair. Um Le Stevenson is getting ready to jump online. So she's the director of that. So she should be >> coming on any minute now. Make sure she gets admitted in Sam. Can can you can you email Lyn the the link to this meeting? >> Who's this? >> Lyn Stevens. >> Yes. >> Thank you. Um, Nester, if you don't mind, um, why is it continuing
015to be called uh an amendment and not just a renewal of of lease? Because you can just say, you know, amendment, amendment, amendment through volunteer. Honestly, I'm not a lawyer. That's the language the lawyers use. They call it amendment because something could have been added or changed. One word is an amendment. The renewal is nothing changed [Music] one word. >> Thank you. Um to the chair still on line uh number three um on letter C it talks about a Polish uh language school event on or before December 31, 2025. Mhm. >> I think we're in 2025 right now. That says 2024. So, I want to make sure that the dates are correct. Uh because I that date already passed. So, I don't know there's another event on the following year until this year or the
01626th or the 20. You see that there? >> Yes. They what I understand is that they they allow the Polish group or team to have an event in 2024. So they're basically giving them the opportunity to have that one more to have the same event like it happened in 2024 in next year which is this coming December. But they're only going to pay $1 to have the event >> to have the event. They will only pay one. The Polish society will only pay $1 for an event that they had in they allowed the Polish society to have December 2024. If you read it further when you flip over it from what I understand the same the same type of allowance will be apply to the annual for event in the future. >> That's for the
017amendment piece of it. >> Right. I know the city attorney they went back and he she went back and forth with like four or five different they couldn't agree all about I told them to you know the reason why I'm asking impressions it should say 2025 that's my whole point and nobody's focus should say 2025 and then the following year will be 2026 and then the following year will be 2027 seven per the contract because it does say that it's going to continue. But you can't say that this contract is been for me valid in a way that you know somebody didn't notice that that it's talking about an event that happened already in 2024 and I just want to make sure that you know that gets changed updated because I understand that is happening
018every year according to this because that isn't uh statement later on indeed but I just want to make sure that that gets fixed that way. Again, they're referring to the Polish event that happened in 2024. They're referring to the event that happened in 2024. And if you flip it over, it's saying that same event that happened 24 will be allowed one year after >> and every year after. That's what it said. You're reading it. If you want to meet it and it all discretion, but with the landlord's consent to host one fundraising event, >> we are the police society. >> I know. And then it says in the remaining two years of the lease amendment term, the party will meet and confer that this event is going to happen in every consecutive year of the
019contract. >> Right? >> That's what I'm saying. So this this one should say in my understanding of contract should say December 31st 2025 basically event on board. >> Oh so it's saying that the event happened already. So in the future the events just like that will happen again. So it's not saying that that's the date of the event. >> It's not saying that >> that's the date of the event that happened last year. >> Yeah we referring to the event that happened December 2024 that this list will allow the same event to happen in the future. That's the way I'm reading it. >> The original contract was 2023. They did an extension in 2024. Another one this year. >> Exactly. Which ended in July 1 of 2024. >> Yeah. So C is just saying that
020in in 2024 they had to end that is saying that it's a continued event. >> Well, again, the contract that they had in 2023 ended and then it another one started July 1st, 2024. And now this contract that we're talking about that we're trying to amend to add ended in June 30th, 2025. >> Yeah. So, >> does this contract can't talk about things that happened in the last contract? It should be talking about things that moving forward because that >> you guys are happy. I'm okay. I I I know I'm in the record to ask a question that will >> I'm just saying clarify for you that that that letter C is saying that in 2024 this event happened >> and D is saying that basically in future years that's similar similar to the 2024
021event we're going to continue those events >> that is allowed in the lease at the price of a dollar. Hey Lyn, you wanna you want to add value to that conversation and we got some additional questions for you as well. >> Sure. Absolutely. I mean I I agree uh with Mr. Niko that that's the the intent of the agreement is that they're referring back to the prior contract and then indicating it for this year and the two following years. Uh I do understand how that that does appear a little bit confusing, Mr. Medina, but I think that's the intent. The other question was uh which which uh adult ed uh grant funding source are you using to pay for this particular lease this this go around? It's a three-year lease. The only grant you have
022is the federal grant. Uh are you paying it from that funding source instead of the one-year state grant? How's that going to work? >> No, this this gets paid out of the state grant. BISE um it's the ED244. The uh federal grant is a very small grant that's only for supplemental activities to support students. >> Now, is is this particular grant a a guaranteed grant every year by the state? I think it's been for for a while now. So, you're going to have the funding source uh that's going to be a continuous funding source for adult ed moving forward as well. Correct. >> Correct. It's guaranteed. The amount can change from year to year. However, it is something that I budget for and would be a priority in within the grant. >> And this is
023where this is one of the allowable um you know resources that you could you know purchase with the grant. Am I correct? >> Yes. Absolutely. >> Yes. I guess my only comment is if the language is to safeguard us from let's say something happening where money does get taken out or let's say the grant dollars fluctuate from year to year. What if one year we don't get the amount to cover this contract? What's the harm in having the language anyways? That's all. It's It's just a comment. >> Um I I mean I'm happy to res respond. Um it it is a a very large grant. It's a $4.8 million grant. Um so the way that I view it when I'm doing the budgeting is I certainly prioritize for those things that are necessity, one of
024which being the building. So I would always ensure that that's a priority. um from year to year. Even if our grand grant funds were decreased, um they would not be decreased to the amount that I couldn't cover the rent. >> My last comment, so this the $4.8 million is over a three-year period and Okay. And this No, >> Every year, >> but this contract is through 2027. >> That's right. But it's $159,000 the first year, >> right? So there isn't a sufficient >> Mhm. >> Well, I mean pretty much the way I look at it, the last thing that will go if you ask me is the space where they rent. That's the very last thing that they cannot afford or LD program. I think the other piece that that I want the board to
025the commercial space in the city of Bridgeport is very living dead and so if you you snooze you lose and you won't have a place to provide this particular service for our families in the district. So again, I feel very confident in saying that the attorneys have vetted the contract. Uh Mrs. um Stevens has, you know, pretty much verified that the funding will be there. All right. It's a matter of just making sure that moving forward we will look at that and I will I will make sure that we can when we when I when my staff sends this to the to the attorneys we need to make sure there's an out clause that for whatever reason there may be regardless of unforeseen circumstances across whatever spectrums we have an ability to get out of
026the contract. And I can tell you most attorneys that are doing these things for the districts, you have an out clause. When we when we did the relay contract, we didn't even know we had an out clause, but she said, "I created that just for the purpose of us backing out." >> And it it worked to our advantage for almost a million dollars. So that's what we pay them to do. You know, I'm not an attorney, so I'm not going to advise the board not to do that. But I can tell you we moving forward, we will make sure that is an important piece because the board's you guys are wanting that. I mean, being great stewards of taxpayers money is a huge piece and we we learned that the audit, right? And so we're
027going to make sure we're going to do everything to make make sure that that is and so when we meet we'll talk a little bit about that necessary and uh we'll make sure that the reassurances not only with that but you guys are going to get that reassurance as well. And sorry to like keep harping on this and being in such a pain in the butt about it, but the way I look at it and just kind of so you understand my perspective is that god forbid we have to get out of a contract now we're getting sued for a million dollars or whatever. You know, it's a million dollars less in the classroom. So that's kind of where I'm seeing it from that. Um, >> thank you, Madam Chair. I know on next you
028talk about the contract and it's good and everything but I really misin um you was there and I really you know exactly because I'm worried about what I said and I don't feel I know that you knew I'm going to send you information you will figure it out but one of the thing is like want to be the issue everything is the issue but one of the thing is they handicap the parking lot and repair the building because I still remember that that they say the church would not cover nothing like that there have to be a document about that. So everyone later the common bill that qualification have to fix this the stair the boiler the water the pipe or anything and the um the handicap issues is very important that miss thing we
029don't want that something happen and get you know we get a something like that you know or or in the parking lot anybody can twist the leg the the food or everything and who's going to pay that's my big question so I don't know I know Miss Lane was part of that and then we talk about that so I don't know Miss Davis can Can you can you stress on that a little bit? >> Yeah. >> Um yeah, absolutely. So, and I I apologize. Somebody walked into my office, so I I think I caught all of it, but please, you know, feel free to ask questions if I don't cover it. Um in terms of of any expenses and who would be responsible for the expenses. Um it's my understanding that any any large expenses
030um would be covered by St. Michael's. Um this is what I was told by um my predecessor. um small expenses the district is covering. So, painting, um we just had some flooring replaced, uh minor leaks, we had um the boiler repaired. All of that has been covered by the district. Um however, I did hear that larger expenses would be covered by St. Michael's. Um I've never experienced that though. >> Yes. um m they don't they don't give us like a list what the drinks they have to pay and what the you know so we can know we can have that you know black to white just in case something happen when they say oh you have to fix that we don't have a you know no it's not in our list you know what what
031responsible what is not >> no and I think Mr. Dr. Benahan, you bring up a very good point that's been something that that I I think should be clarified. Um because it could happen at any time, right? >> Thank you. Thank you, M. >> And hey, Leah, do you have a good relationship with them? If there's an issue, you guys kind of get together and resolve who's going to do what on that. Is that pretty standard for you guys? >> No, actually, my only communication with St. Michaels has really been around the lease. everything else has been handled uh maintenance-wise or facility wise within district. Uh but I do have a relationship with them and I do you know I do we do communicate regularly. Yes, Mr. Medina. >> Thank you. I just want to
032make sure you didn't get I know you said somebody walked you off. So one of the point that Albert was trying to make and was making was about the parking lot. I know that it hadn't been maintained and we were concerned about if somebody kind of like twisted their ankle or falls down like who's going to be uh liable or who are they going to go after when it comes to that? And another one was regarding the access of handicap access into the building that if something happens because we don't have the proper access that who would that fall under in a sense and I would think that would be insurance but I'll let you answer that. >> Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Um, in terms of handicap accessibility, because we have the two different locations, um,
033we are able to refer anybody to our nighttime program at Central High School. Um, so we we don't we're not handicap accessible at 418th Street and that's why they come to Central High School. Um, in terms of the liability piece of it, um, it is a shared parking lot. So, we do share it with St. Michael's. They have regular uh attendees as well at that program. Um if there was somebody to fall in the parking lot, I I'll be honest with you. I I don't know. I don't have the answer to that one. We'd have to do some research on that. >> Yeah, with what you said, I believe it's probably belongs to them as an entity St. Michael's will >> and that's part of the insurance that we have to pay as we lease
034just like we will do the same for you know people that lease our building as well. We require a certain amount of the insurance just in case there's an injury somewhere in between all that as well. >> Are there any further questions? Is there a motion? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Uh, I'll make a motion to approve uh to report to the full board um of the Bridgeport Adult Education Lease Agreement Renewal at 418 Cass Street. Second, second. Um, all in favor? >> I. >> Any opposed? All right, that passes. Thank you, Miss. >> Thank you, ma'am. >> You're welcome. The next item on the agenda is referral to the full board the 25 fiscal year 256 family resource center grant application um to the state department of education for senalia school and Roosevelt school. Uh
035so madam chair since a grant that the district applied for to cover the three centers or the two three schools that you indicated um I don't know I guess what the primary resource center covers or what they do um was put in the package >> we have in the package >> I'm sure you're familiar with what they do so it's basically a renewal each of the each of the schools will get the full amount of $13,000 363 script. So divided among side the grand application just looking for the committee and the board to approve to be very honest with you. We had already applied. There was a deadline on there. There was a deadline to write application. We put in the application lo I don't see how the board will >> deny it. >> I'm
036being honest with everyone here. Um it's either we wait and wait for the board to approve it or then miss the deadline. So just being >> and it's just new from the state a new required >> it is. So that's just being clear with everyone as to what we had to make put it a management decision and I don't see I don't see that >> question from >> Yes. Um you said it was 113k per school. >> Yeah. 113,000 111,363 each per >> Thank you. I just want to make sure that I didn't get that because I was trying to find that number. It's 62 page document. >> Any other questions? >> Any questions? >> No, I go ahead. I I just I had the question and mentioned the quote is basically answered it which
037is why we're doing all these things sort of after um a number of these things and you know I understand the states changed it practice and was born full >> um is that unique to us? Yeah, >> I think to the chair I think one one of the things that the state is doing too, they're having to be fiscal responsible for what they did out funding wise because when you look at the history of the state and how they've allocated millions of dollars to schools and there's no >> they're tightening up their own practices >> and plus they're getting ready to go through a whole audit system at the state because of that >> you know, >> but that that is they're trying to kind of tighten up a little bit and being a little
038bit more strict as to what, when, and how. >> They were human, too. >> What is that? >> Missy, uh, in the past there was a little box in the system that you check with your board. Now, they've added what date was the board approved it. So, they're they're being a little more excited. That's good. Thank you, >> Mr. Medina. >> Yeah. How many employees? Is there just one person in each school and what are their duty? Because I'm wondering if this is we just opened a center for families and all that stuff. So, what is the difference between the this location as far as the family resource center to what we just had a green opening to? >> These centers already exist in the district. this is just a reoccurring grant funding for those
039those particular three sites, >> you know, so it's not anything new. It's it's been existing. Uh and that it's part of the whole uh my understanding is there was a huge initiative back when the state was really focusing in on families within schools. Uh and these three sites were funded and they continue to be funded throughout the district. So, you know, what we just opened is a registration center. is not a parental center, you know, and I think at one point in time the district had a big grant that was my understanding a lot of money, you know, focusing around families and there was a there was a center that was down near Haring School, but I'm trying to kind of still kind of learn my way around uh that was funded through a grant
040that um >> no longer we no longer have because I don't think it was the state thought it was beneficial for to continue funding that something like that whatever but but yeah it's a little different but this is a smaller scale and it's really targeting those families and uh I I visit the one at Paya you know last year I think it was and uh so it's this more of a support mechanism thing but it's more this just a continuation of that family resource center grant And the people that are in the grant, they're totally dedicated to family services such as workshops, um, community functions, though you're not sharing the school. >> What's their favorite? >> Um, and what's what is their position? >> The family. >> Are they they certified? Are they non-ertified? >>
041No, they're non-certified. So these are like home school coordinators or Sarah. Thank you. >> Any any um further questions motion? >> So I make a motion refer to the full board of the 2526 family resource center grade application to the state department of education for Cartaya Elementary School, Dumbar School and Roosevelt School. Any further question? All in favor say I. >> I. >> Passes. Thank you. Um, all right. The next item on the agenda is referral to the full board for the expelled students um the university school program. >> Thank you. I I'll leave uh I have John please stay here. You step up and I'm going to have you this is this is a yearly contract. the this this contract is for the university school for funds at the university schools for our expelled
042students in the district. And so can you kind of give the board that we have a new a few new board members exactly what university school there how many how many seats we're asking the board to approve this year and how did that work? >> Um this this contract has been in place for a number of years. I took over about three years ago. Typically, these are for expelled students across the board. A lot of them are special ed, a lot of them are kids from whether they have behavior, violence, safety for themselves as well as safety for others, threatening weapons. I guess they go through your expulsion process and then I think it's like a court and they decide could be a one month suspension. Typically the students that the the bulk of them
043are suspended for a year. You purchase 30 slots. This year you had approximately 50 students come through that expulsion program in some form or fashion. Some come for the whole year, some come for 6 months. It all depends on what your process or how long the expulsion is for. I'll give you an example. There's t right now there are your expulsion program obviously ended in June but it does carry forward. So there out of the 30 kids or out of the 50 that have gone through there are 10 expelled students that will be starting on the 28th of August because their expulsion carries till whenever that year is over next year. Something new that's kind of happened but not really. We there's also been a few and right now there are two that are coming
044back. the district has asked me or and some of the special ed directors. It's almost like a diagnostic placement. I'll give you an example. A freshman comes in, a teacher, a social worker, sees signs of bipolar, autistic, something like that. The kid's getting up in the class, got ADHD, and he's walking out of the class, can't last the whole class. It's not almost a true suspension, but he gets in trouble. So they call it a suspension, but they say, "John, he's we're going to put him in into the expel program and then I allow or I accommodate your psychologist, your social worker, because you don't want the kid home. You don't want you're not allowed to just leave him home or whatever." And then so he'll come to the to us and then you guys
045will do an evaluation. Once it's a diagnosed, if there is a diagnos of a disability, then a PPT will be held for a proper placement. It might not be, it might be for him to stay there or her. It might be for them to go back to their home school with some sort of supports or it could be an out of district placement to a different uh facility that can accommodate that child's IEP. But typically, um, you purchase the 30 slots. You've always gone over it. It's net, it's hit 30, it's been at 30, it's been at 49. But because of the way they move in and out, it serviced 50 50 of your spelled kids last year and a couple of kids that were diagnosed or were going through the diagnostic placement. The cost
046is the same. There was there's no difference. We have never added the 3% or anything like that. Um, so and it it's a worthwhile program, I believe, and it and it works. And then some of these kids end up getting an IEP through here and the goal is to get them back to their school, but sometimes through that it gives the district time to evaluate. I mean, if you just if this kid is keeps going back and getting expelled, it gives the district an opportunity to search out a proper placement and rather than the kid go back to school and then disrupting I mean at one time just one incident there was a sort of a small riot in nine came out of there in one week, one shot. They had hurt a kid really
047bad and then uh it took them off >> and there some of them are still here because their explosion was like sometime in late November. So they have to come back to me and stay till November and then the district will decide who's going where when and how. >> Yeah, the chair. I think one of the things that you know as we start planning for our new special education um campus we we could look at options but but currently we have no real options for our expelled kids across the district. I think this this uh conversation came up last year and John's school is the only real school that will accept our kids that it's local without having to pay the extra transportation and all those things. Um I had had no real concerns, complaints
048from parents that have their kids there. He manages everything within the school. You know, there's some things that I know on our side that we have to do better in going in and evaluating and checking in and making sure kids are being serviced by and we're going to do that with all our elementary district placements, making sure there's a certified teacher, you know, making sure that we can put our eyes on the kids and the students at, you know, at the time. So, all these things are things that we have to to check oursel as a district. And that's one of the things that we're in the process of doing moving forward as well. But currently we have very little uh or very few options to uh to provide service for these kids and we
049are required by the state to get their things. >> It's a good program. I mean only because I've been doing this so a long time. We also make sure that these kids are getting c the proper services outside the school system just because they're expelled when they're special ed. We make sure that they're they're not just there getting through their expulsion. We make them referrals to the department of developmental services. We do a lot with the department of children and families. They come in, we allow them to come in. We provide social worker for the kids to try to get to what issues. why are you getting thrown out of class all the time? So, they're not just being held there in room and they're educated. They're all certified teachers. Um, almost all of them
050have masters in all of their teaching. I provide art for the kids. So, it's just not like they're just getting rigid work. Um, and then I also do a lot of talking to them. I want them to be productive citizens in Bridgeport. So we I also provide some extracurricular activities at my cost just so they're not just feeling like they're locked up, you know. So hoping that you'll carry it forward. >> This may be a question for Dr. Aer, Miss McKinley. Um so he's providing social work services and and and teachers, certified teachers, but are they meeting and any students entering this program with IEPs, are is that meeting the compliance standards? So are are they being um taught based on their IPs and >> absolutely my understanding and John you can kind of clarify
051that a little bit because that's one of the things that we are really trying to kind of monitor as well is a teacher is a certified because if the teacher is not certified special ed we have compensary ed that we're required to provide for the kid to make up that so can you talk a little bit about that >> certified special education teachers Um, matter of fact, she worked here. She's one of the head administrators there, Sarah Bowden. She was here for 25 years. She's been there now ever since she retired. She's one of the head administrators there. So, there's even there's two two our teachers. One is special ed, one is not. And uh all the teachers that address the IEPs are all certified special ed children to the point where a lot of
052the parents don't at the end a lot of them don't want their kids going back to their home schools but uh we always encourage it for the kids social part of that they go back to the regular they're done with their exposure. Motion's not motion to refer to the full board of the expel students to university school agreement. >> Second move is second. Mr. Tr does have a question. Go ahead. Yeah, I for those who weren't around, John's a little off on this time, but it was two years ago that it was sort of became sort of lost in the shuffle in the school um in 2023 um as the superintendency turned over and the previous director was dying or he died. >> Yeah. And it's had a long history in this community of being
053accident service to the community. I've been to hearings when I was a teacher where students came out, you know, who said this university school saved me, you know, sitting next to a kid with his wife and his baby. Um, so it's got that long history that John's talking about doing good service in our community. Um and then it it you know as the director the former uh director president whatever his title was was dying and losing it uh the organization was in disarray and we were going through a superintendent turnover search and you know it just the ball got dropped that summer. Um and so John came in and you know the contract got signed by the new superintendent without the board being informed and policy being followed. So it became a hot potato >>
054and so the next summer you know it it was still a hot potato. Um, and so we looked at it, we, you know, we fought and argued about it, but when on close inspection >> of it being a hot potato, we determined both sides that it was a good habitat and was doing good work and and the numbers added up that, you know, this was a worthwhile program to support. So, I won't just put that back on the record for Marissa primarily because I think she's really the only one who wasn't here at that point. Um, >> uh, it would we really, you know, both sides agreed, you know, we were we who would did not support the superintendent were arguing about whether this was a good investment, a use of our money and when
055we looked at it closely with the numbers, we all agreed this was a good use of our money. So, >> thank you for the chair. I think I think to to kind of put everybody at ease, I think it's important that that everyone knows the state of Connecticut is really looking at all programs that service kids, be it special ed, regular ed, expelled, whatever. So, there's going to be a whole lot of brand new criteria that's going to come forth to make sure that again kids are being served by certified teachers even when they're outside of the district. Uh, you know, to make sure that when boards are paying for services, you know, they're going to get the services that we feel our kids need and pay the same amount of money and not all
056these high rated, you know, costs of mix. So, that's coming as well. Well, I always looked at the program as sort of there was sort of two parts to the program. It was the program that dealt with the problem kids and the program that dealt with the high knee kid. >> And those two did, you know, like van diagram, they over overlapped, but they really had two components. >> Um, and so >> and it it's seriously cost effective based on moving across and see. I also own other schools. Um, This is a This is a program that's been in place. I remember fighting the battle with you. >> Yeah. I'm talking years. >> Yeah. >> Valent coming out. >> That's right. >> Yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, I I'm a graduate. >> That's right. >>
057I graduated from university school. Nick was I used to at the fight and uh Dallas I mean Dallas Nick had me there schooled me and then years later the other four insurance I had the accident whatever I started programs for uh mobility impaired kids and it was Nick that taught me everything about how to work with the kids and special special needs kids and I was friends with Nick up until the day Dr. And uh it was families that came to me and said, "Chan, can you step in and not let this program go away?" It's graduated. A lot of kids and a lot of productive people have come out of that universities. That's why I do the extra things to show these kids that you can be successful even in. request. >> Get change
058back. >> Yes, thank you. It's on the card. Sorry. >> Sorry. >> I'm sorry. >> Yeah. Yeah. Sorry about that. Um I'm in the car. Um >> yeah, >> sorry about that. Um yeah, my question is um you me you mentioned sometimes they go there for um just for like a temporary placement to get their um IEPs and such about what percentage is referred out to out of district schools that are in such a situation >> you're talking about from the district side or you're talking about through the university >> specifically to the university school How how many of the students sent there can't be serviced and have to be referred out of district? >> Well, can go ahead. It's typically a kid that is getting was going to get expelled, but the district seems
059to think he was being expelled maybe because of a a disability that they're trying to recognize rather than expel him or even if he got thrown out of the school because um he keeps throwing things or threatening the teacher that it's not him being violent that it's a manifestation of some kind of behavior or maybe a parent can't afford the medication and that happens. So rather than have that kid home, he can he comes to the school, he's still learning and still doing it. And um then the district sends their uh certified social workers or psychologist to evaluate the kid and that might be just a matter of a couple of weeks and then the kid is either placed or gone back to back to school with some kind of supports. But it's very few
060like right now there's only two and I think there were only four total last year. >> Miss McKenna, you want to speak to >> Yes. >> So uh we had as far as I know there were no students that were sent out of district uh in lie of going to TUS nor any students with special education services who were sent from TUS to out of district placement last year. So when a student is expelled, it is for an expelable disciplinary offense. And for any student who has uh an IEP or a section 504 plan, then there is a PPT meeting that's held before that uh expulsion uh take place. And so part of that is ensuring that we develop a plan that can be implemented in uh when they are expelled and where you know
061whether it's at T US um that whatever plan that they go with that it can be implemented at T US. >> That is correct. >> Thank you. >> Yeah. Okay. See there's a motion on the floor and a second. Um any further questions? Say none in favor say >> I >> oppose. >> Thank you guys. Thank you. >> Next item on the agenda is um referrals to the full board subcontractor service agreement for Bridgeport Prosper Board of Education. >> This is a a grant that we received. It's a one-time grant that was given from the Connecticut Office of Early Childhood in July of 2025. The um department started a program called Early Start. It's consolidation of school readiness, child daycare, and Head Start. And part of this grant is a 30 thou $60,000 grant. We
062keep 30 of the 60, but then we also subawward uh Bridgeport Prospers. Bridgeport, we handle the monitoring, the paperwork filing, and Bridgeport Prosper handles all the community engagements. This is the approval of that subawward to Bridgeport Prospers. the the state of Connecticut matched Bridgeport Prospers to Bridgeport Public School and partnered us up together for it. It's basically a reimbursement for the administrative stabilization of getting of getting the early start program going. >> Any question with you, Mr. Chamberlain? >> Yeah, this was another one that was sort of like it's almost up. Um, >> it just came out July of 2025. >> It starts in June. It It reads as June through September. >> The subawward contract part. >> Yeah, I'm see >> 30th through September 30th. >> Um, the term engagement. So we're we're now
063at the end of August. So it's almost over. >> Well, it's dated almost the day of August. >> I got saw that the agreement was dated, but the actual contract is from June to the end of September. So again, that's why I made the comment earlier that just we seem to have a number of things that we're looking at tonight that are sort of so I just was one of the ones I was referring to. So I was curious as to why >> six week >> and so >> resulting in Nadira Clark leaving. Okay, I'm just that's the first question and just pointing out this was another one that so I don't see anything nefarious here. I'm just >> I think it's like halfway in between though. There's still six. It's just halfway in between.
064It's not before we started. It's like we're in the middle of >> Dr. Chair. Dr. Whley, can you address that issue? uh learning a new role to take over the whole grants department was a transition for for your you and your your team. So can you can you talk a little bit about making sure moving forward that grants are going to be presented to the board in a timely manner um more so than in between the two time frames that kind of thing. So, >> I'm not even looking for an answer because you've just hit the nail on the head that it's an issue that as we transition, >> we've already talked about we're going to address these things and do better with these things. I'm really not looking to do other than to point
065out >> that this is another one of these things that you see and you go, "Oh, um, so we want to instead be looking at these at the end of the last school year um before the summer starts because the grants start at the end of the school year." >> I think you make a good point because sometimes the delay is not at fault of the district, it's the state or whoever gets >> as we heard before. >> Yes. And so we just need to kind of preference that when we bring things to the board for consideration with the with a real quick footnote saying hey due to the fact that it was delayed hidden to us then we so again I think that's only fair to everybody that's received. >> As I said I
066suspect nothing nefarious here. I'm just pointing out this wasn't just another one of those things that we sort of huh why are we dealing with this halfway through the third the 90day period when whatever. Yeah, that's true. July, August, September, August, then um so um and then um it I didn't quite understand what they do. So there seemed to be more pages of legal ease, boilerplate legal ease covering your bugs, than there did to be actual language about what they're doing. And so if you could just give me some idea of what they're doing. >> Yeah. >> They're from from going through this the council it's because they're combining community groups of parents, educators, health workers, um and they're creating these local area childhood councils, these LEC's. And this payment, the sub award is for
067getting Bridgeport Prospers to do that leg work force and get putting the community against local area counsel area councils because they're halfway through it and I've not heard a thing about >> Well, they >> Yes. And can if I can add briefly, so this this grant is specifically for the transition planning. So, it's it's really an interesting situation because the grant is giving Bridgeport Public Schools and Bridgeport Prosper money to figure out how are we going to do this. And so, the money is set aside for them to meet with um a select group of stakeholders who I don't know off the top of my head because they are planning the meeting. Um but I believe the first one is scheduled for the third week of September. >> Yes. 20th, right around there. >> I
068think it's around that. >> Exactly. That sounds accurate. So, it's really weird because it's like they don't know what they're going to do because this grant is to plan what they're going to do. >> Who's the they the three people I read in the grants? >> Um so they um are the three people on the grant are from Bridgeport Prospers. Yes. Right. and they are working with um what was the Bridgeport School Readiness Team um who are now known as Early Start CT um and those two people are um Camille Harris and Lee Helmrich um who are housed within the grants office um but their titles are school readiness coordinators um now they'll be early start CT coordinators is >> I I really I read it and I thought, "Wow, I don't I don't really
069understand what this is." And so I would would this be appropriately something that we could have a presentation in my committee about? >> Yes, >> absolutely. >> Okay. So, because you remember it's late and either I do it next week or I do it after they have their first meeting, which would be better. Wow. I'm asking the three of you. >> We can Why don't we contact them and see >> which which would be best for them. >> Okay. >> Because, you know, the state has a huge focus on early childhood and so they're just trying to do the business different >> and this is one of those startup kind of groups in communities in order to get that work. probably what's going to end up happening, they're going to pull these groups to a
070a a larger group in order to kind of make recommendations to how we do it based on the needs of our families and which are different than some other counties around us as well. So, get but I think it's be important for you to and one of the things I'm also going to ask of of Dr. Whitley and and Mrs. huge is when when we have an agenda item that there is a director in charge of that director needs to be at this meeting you know because it's important that the clarity is given if they're running their departments they should be here in conversation >> well that's a problem that's another note another discussion we need to have because right now it's in the grants department it should be I think an early childhood >>
071okay >> that's we all agree on But I'm like just losing just like with Lynn, she should have been in the meeting. I had to call her and say, "Get online. I need you kind of thing." But just so we know. >> Well, let's tie that direct into the agenda item. It's a really simple thing to do. I >> think that's important for because I want you guys to have the clarity about everything, every question you have. You can >> Yeah. Yeah. >> So, I'll we'll follow up on you. Leave it. I'll leave it at that for now. Thank you. >> Are there any further questions? >> There a motion? >> Motion to refer to the full board of the subcontractor service services agreement Bridgeport Prosper Bridgeport Board of Education. >> Second. >> Moved and
072seconded by move by M. Erz, second by Mr. Argentina. Any further discussion? See none. All in favor? >> I. >> Any opposed? >> That goes forward. Next item. Thank you. On the agenda is referrals to the full board. Um the draft budget planning documents. >> Okay. Before you uh Thank you, Madam Chair. Uh Nester and I were um directed by the commissioner of education to develop budget planning mod module a manual for the board of ed and it was it is actually to be approved by the board by September 1. I had to provide the state with a draft of the plan before it was approved by the board. And so I'm in the pro, you know, we've been the last couple of weeks trying to get this together and trying to figure out how
073to present it and getting it together on top of everything else we've been trying to do to get the funding and things we need for the district. So this is going to be a very helpful tool for the board, I think, uh, to be able to have timelines and dates and clarity for, you know, uh, budget codes and things like that. Uh so I think it's important that you know as you hopefully you have a chance to work through um the manual uh it's rose and responsibility of the people who develop budgets be it the principal the directors and other leaders uh so you'll see the roles and responsibilities of that on page one >> president for the board members um we're still working on kings of board book this actually is not on board
074book it's in our portal it Um, we do have it the document. Okay. So, you're looking at board book right now. >> Yeah, there is there is a very thick manual that we uploaded to the portal for you in the >> Yeah, I have no idea. >> Yeah. and and so >> my training session >> again I just kind of want to make sure now the state has this and they're reviewing it and they're going to critique it and get it back to me hopefully before Friday when I upload the revised or whatever official copy that they put their blessings on. Um and when you go when you look at the annual budget timeline, the budget assumptions, charts of accounts, guidelines for budget workshop presentations, um all these things are the things you're going to
075see that that was kind of pulled out of the audit. you know the oversight transparencies but all of this has been you know accumulated into one kind of a manual thing again it's a work in progress I know it's a lot to kind of you know synthesize just a couple of days but one of the things that's important that directive that was given to me was that we got to have a a a place where individuals can go study and understand when things are happening, when committee meetings are going to happen, when you know when when are the the principles going to be involved with their budget development processes. So all of that is in here and we try to be as thorough as we possibly could right uh and a lot of it correlates
076with the um >> the city timeline as well. you know, we're we're not we're somewhat unique to some other districts around, you know, because your smaller districts may not do that connection with the municipalities like we do. We we're very very guided by the timelines of the city. Uh we have to do things a little bit different as a large urban school district. So everything in here are estimated dates of when we should be doing things. So come November, the board should be saying, "Okay, where are we? What should we be doing?" So by November 15th, you should say or there should be conversation at the finance committee meeting. Okay, you're meeting with principles. What you know, they they're looking at their needs and they want. So this is just a a help for you
077guys to help us to make sure that we're on point. Uh I think it's a good thing. uh and um I'm looking forward to to being critiqued like we've always been from the state uh on how this is going to integrate with the processes and procedures that we're going to be changing due to the fact that we got the recommend the 34 recommendations on the audit. Uh, so, um, I'll just let you guys there's glossery words of things that you may not know, giving you like the object codes that are within the budget code. When you go when you dive deep into Nester's spreadsheets, you you'll say, "Okay, what does that mean?" 550, that's painting and that's binding. I mean, I'm sorry, printing and binding. 580 is travel, you know. So, you'll understand how to
078connect the dots to the numbers as well. Uh in addition to that there is uh the the munis process. We're going to be expanding munis as a use of uh holding us accountable for doing things the right way. Expenditures are going to be line item within munus. Uh we should be able to give the board a view access only of munus. Uh it's a lot of you know but it's all about accountability right. So, we're going to set everybody up to make sure that everybody's clear about how we do our finances. And, you know, and if you need more information, you need more training, we can get that for you as well. But this is what this is. Uh, first round that we didn't know what we were doing. We just brought it all together.
079So, hopefully for you guys to ask questions and moving into the full board. >> No, >> she's the chair. >> But I was going to say, oh, I ask the committee first. >> Gotcha. Um this you just said this um this should be once it's approved by the full board um we have until September 1st to approve it just so according to our >> action plan. So hopefully the state does get it back to us before next week's meeting. Um >> um and then this will be distributed once it's approved to the department heads and all that. Okay. U committee members, do you have anything? >> Mr. the trade version. >> Um, I loved it. You said I read through it and was like, "Oh, this is great." >> Um, >> it's a lot of
080work. >> I applaud you. >> Is it there? There's obviously one element that it changes, which is the state bianial budget years. Um, and I I I I was gonna, you know, I not having it on paper and funny. I I I I don't know how to make comments on my on my laptop on my So I when I get Hey, I was hoping to get a paper copy tonight. Um, and um if you appreciate that because I'm the same way. I got that paper. >> You can work. You get that training. when I get that training that you were gonna tell me now actually has a feeling I could already date on this thing. Um, there's a couple things I remember is one of your definitions of, but I didn't go through them thoroughly,
081but in scanning scanning them quickly, you had a definition of certified employees that included um subs, but then you had a definition of subs two two points later. So it doesn't make sense to me that you have certified that include subs and subs. Um that questionable. >> Um so that >> remember infuse me. >> Remember you can have a sub that is certified but that's being paid as a sub and is certified. So it's you could have that combination. >> Yeah. All right. So I retired. >> That little one just troubled me and I'm going to put a question mark there. Um but on a on a bigger scale um you were too late on your state work. You had March I think it March and April or February and I think it was March
082and April for your state work. Um and I thought it'd be >> if you if you can kind of >> if you can kind of give it back to him >> if you can kind of once you get it pencil things in for me and >> I I just thought you started lobbying too late. Um the state hearings will begin in February and March and so you'll want to do lobbying particularly in budget year. Um but even before then you'll want to keep an eye out on the committees and what they're doing earlier. Um, you know, because just when you know in that you sort of state work, it was after you did your your municipal budget, that page where you went back to the state timeline >> like April May. >> Is that what
083it says? >> I think that's what you're talking about. >> Yeah. It's the last page of your timetabling. Oh yes, page one. Last page. >> After you get done with the really nice municipal process and everything else, >> you have a page where you're sort of talking about the state when you're doing the state and you sort of >> start too late in the state. >> Okay. You want to start earlier of the state. >> I think if you just kind of I think we get easily revised and add that piece to it. You want to start that earlier because they they do committee meetings and the hearings and >> I wouldn't I wouldn't give you that information. >> Yeah, you want to start that earlier. >> The state lines. So, it's just more the
084projection piece but sooner than than >> Yeah, because the governor gives his budget in January and after he presents his budget, they start playing around and the committees um and putting together their budget. The sending time should be sooner than April. >> No, what we're saying is in April by April and May that's when we know the fiscal decisions the the state of federal and it's correct >> already made. But we want to make we want to do work before that, right? >> We are doing work with deployment. >> Okay. I saying here >> by then you should know >> by then we will know what the outcome of the work we did early. >> Yeah. But but they they don't decide till June. >> That's why he said May. >> Yeah. You won't do
085the glory work. But when we know the the decision of how good we did >> but anyway this just those only two things I can remember from having read through it but I I began by applauding the work. I love it. Um it it is it is what we argued about remember two years ago last year about when a budget should be out when it should be started out and now everybody will have it on paper and everybody will know what it should be it be there for all to see and all to know and having that enlight >> yes thank you I I got a couple of things. Um, when I looked earlier today, it wasn't in a portal. This document is about 40 pages long. Um, >> came in came in the portal
086six hours ago. There's been no real time to digest it. At first glance, um, looks like it definitely needs a little more uh, board fingerprints on it because what the state said is that the board of education needs to have more oversight. So basically this document that was prepared without any board input whatsoever is under the gun to be approved by September 1st. Now I would like you to ask the state to give the board some time to peruse this document, put our own stamp on it and how we as a board should move forward in our oversight rule oversight role for the superintendent and the budget process because at first at first glance I haven't had a time to time to do a deep dive to ask even the pertinent questions. >> Mr. The
087only thing is for this for this specific item, the the action item was that the superintendent will present to the board a budget binder. Not that the board >> correct. And I'm asking questions and discussing the budget binder. So it's not it's not going to the full board yet. >> No, no, no. It it's going to go let me finish. So the the superintendent and the CFO is preparing has prepared in um in collaboration with at a for state the budget binder that they're presenting to the full board. So it comes before the committee right now to get our f first looks at it. Monday we we'll as a full board take a look at it there. You know right now whatever input. So um Traver just gave us some input. You know hopefully we
088can add that in as well. The state still has to look at this make sure it's approved like approved by them and then we'll continue looking at it there. Yeah. There's there's items on here that you know it it shows us when we're going to go to committee for certain items. um you know so but this is developed by the superintendent for us and then we're going to be going over it so by so our response as a board member is by by November have has the principles done that in our committee meeting we'll talk about have the principles submitted their capital budget plans so that's how we oversee >> okay understood now this is going to be the guiding document for the board of education going forward the board of education who has historically
089just been called out in an audit for not having oversight of the superintendent. And this is basically guiding our oversight for the next x amount of years that the community forums and we're under the gun for September 1st as a some sort of deadline that we got to have this in and approved by. Um the state might have to understand that if they want us to do this right, we're going to need to take a little more time to look at it because you're using the words board of education community forum, but it's superintendentled. That's not a board of education forum. That's a superintendent forum. There's two different animals. The board of education should be doing more interfacing with the public as we did in the past. We've done forums in the past led by
090the board of education, not just this board members standing there and playing a secondary role as inter budget. We I I mean this is seems a bit too hasty. Um, it needs it needs more board input in it. And I don't think we should be moving so quickly. The state's going to have to understand it's not going to be fixed overnight. The state will be gone in a year or two. Some of us will be gone in five or 10 years. But this budget document is going to live on and guide the next superintendent and the next boards that live with it without the state being here. So, I think we should take the time to do it right and not be under the gun for a 30-day lesson and be in fear of what
091the state's going to do if we don't do it right. Because they said we do have to have oversight. That was their main thing. The board does not have oversight. The board is not involved enough in the budget process. Now this guiding budget document again we still have not had any input in this and just got the information 6 hours ago which once again is another problem with timeliness of documents and then that's all I got for now and I'll read through it and probably have more questions for the regular board meeting. Thank you. >> Good chair. >> Yeah, >> I just want to emphasize I got my hand stopped once already by the state Mr. back and I am going to meet this deadline and whatever the board decides to do I will have
092it documented that I presented it to the board before you know uh before September one that's that was that was my directive okay so >> yeah but no no disrespect though you do not work for the state you work for the nine member board of education until they take it away from Anyone else? >> Um, my question is around the September 1st deadline. Is the deadline just to present this budget plan to the board? It is not to post it anywhere as a final version. Correct. And approval from the board. >> It said the board will conduct an initial review of the budget binder developed by the superintendent. That's all it says. >> September 1st. Yeah, I an initial review. It's not telling you to approve anything, guys. I'm just telling you what she directed
093me to do and I'm going to meet that deadline regardless of it was a directive and I just have to follow that. It's it's a it says the initial review for just a short question. Is this you're going to present the board shut? Read that again, please. It says the superintendent will prepare a comprehensive budget binding to ensure fiscal responsibility for the next five years. By whatever September one, the board will conduct an initial review of the budget binding developed by the superintendent. >> Is this the budget? >> Okay. So this additional big thing with three rings this is the content of >> okay be clear on the terms you pay the requirement >> one thing I'm going to say for the record for nine months you do a lot and I know you got
094this is the only thing I can say so far everyone you know there be doing things what the state want. I know you guys do it extra. You know, they know what we're doing and we follow everything what they're doing and I know they listen to us. So for nine months, everything you do, you got this. I trust you. Thank you. Thank you, >> Mr. Favor. >> So if we have a discussion about this on Monday, >> you have done >> what you Thank you. >> That's it. Absolutely. >> Mr. Sakal. >> Yeah, got it. I I want to apologize. I think I misunderstood that we were under the gun for approval and uh so there's no approval happening on one. So we still got time to revise this document and put our fingerprints on
095it. >> Thank you, sir. Appreciate that. >> Motion to refer to the full board of the draft budget planning document. >> Second. moved by Miss Estra men, second by Mr. Any further debate on it? >> I would love feedback. So feel free to give us give us a feedback. This is the we just spent a whole lot of time getting this together and we may have missed something. There may be some dates wrong in there, whatever. So just >> give us give us some feedback. We will we'll be doing it in full. >> Yeah, we will. We got you. is good. >> All right, it's been moved. Seconded no further questions. All in all in favor say I. >> I forgot. >> That's all. All right. >> Oh, no. You have two other votes today.
096>> Oh. Um, anyways, um, any further Oh, where's your chair? Yes. putting board because of the financial constraint in the city um what we're doing or what I'm asking the grants office to do is basically look Google whatever find money find grants now what I'm trying to say if I find that into a grant and present it to me if it makes financial sense I will not turn that that I can tell everybody if we're going to meet the deadline I will tell them to apply then we'll bring you committee and the work tell them what the grant is all about we met the deadline if you approve it fine you don't approve it we don't have to accept the grant we have nothing to just to be that's the way that's why I'm used
097to that's the way done this never turned down the grant. People were projecting to me. I look at his logistics. I say apply it. Once they apply, go with council say this is what this is all about. This is how much is at stake apply for it. If there if your match is required that will become match and be granted for you're getting you know you're getting $900,000 free while the city can get $900,000 free of well I don't want to use the word free money yeah so we'll see you know council generally dependenc Amen. Motion to adjourn. >> Journey at 759. >> Oh, hold on. All in favor? I >> I can >> So let's