001Aloha. It's my pleasure, my great pleasure to bring the Tuesday, July 8th, 2025, Elsagundo Unified School District Board of Education meeting to order at 6 p.m. I would like to invite uh board member Beechley to lead us in the pledge of allegiance. I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. All right. Uh, there was no action taken in close session. And item C, uh, we're here for public communications. Seeing none, we will move right along to a special presentations. And um item A is an update from our Elsagunda Teachers Association who are not present and I hope they're enjoying their summer. Item B, um Dr. Johnson, would you like to take the lead
002here? Yes. As a proud Kwanis member and Rotary, um I would love to introduce our gentleman here that um uh Kanis provided a amazing um gift to Richmond and the Center Street School. Uh it was a little bit of a sweep stakes competition because they, you know, called us up and said, "Hey, we got money to give. We want to give money to the schools and you know, where do you think it would be best?" I said, "Why don't we have the principles each pitch what would be the greatest idea?" And then you know the quantities can choose what the best idea is and true to form how the quantities are they said well we like them all and so they're moving forward with center and Richmond and I'd like to introduce these fine gentlemen
003up in order to tell us a little bit more and give us an opportunity to say thank you. Thank you Dr. Johnson. Um you guys all know me but the people at home might not. I'm Eric Kerry. I'm the president of the Elsagon Aquanas Club. Um, my job as president of the Quantis Club, it's not really in the bylaws, but I'm supposed to spend all the money that we make. And we've been doing better and better every year, so there have been surpluses. So Barry and I put our heads together, decided to talk with Dr. Johnson and ask, you know, what are some legacy projects that we could potentially try to fund? So, he came up with the idea of doing the Shark Tank with all of the different principles, and we were able to
004donate $45,000 to the school district to take care of those two projects. It's 30,000 in the first installment. We have to wait till our big fundraiser, the the fair on Maine, is over in September to have the other 15, but we will have it. Um, and we wanted to present you guys with the check for that. We're really excited that this will touch so many kids for so long. It's really a wonderful project. Very nice. I I just want to give a shout out to Eric and Barry just you know this has been the year being here but I you know I I when I'm at these meetings you know and and all the work that goes into fundraising. Um but the reoccurring theme is you know how can we you know support our community
005you mean like and then as part of that our schools and I I just I see that work firsthand. So I'm really grateful for that. That does not exist everywhere. So, thank you and and I just appreciate your time and effort that goes into this and and the community support because they're the ones that support these events as well, too. So, thank you. You bet. It's our pleasure. Yeah. Shall we take a picture in our getups? Yeah. Yeah. Here we go. Ready? One, two, three. Let me take Yes. All right. Bye guys. Thank you. Thanks you guys. Just so I say it, I have an intern from the high school at our company and he wrote the check. Very nice. Yeah. Wow. Never written a $30,000 check. So today I brought it to the office
006like Two for the price of one. Hand shaking. Thanks, Barry. The high school is like, thanks, guys. Bye. Thank you all. All right. Next on our agenda is an update from Kim Lind on the facilities. Okay. Uh, aloha, President Glenn, members of the board, Dr. Johnson, members of the public. I'm here to give the community a facilities update from the Alcano Unified School District this evening. So, just in summary, our key priorities have been accomplished from measure ES. Um, we are thankful to the community for their support in this process. In addition, we have qualified for new construction and modernization funding, which we will become eligible for in November of 2026. I'll talk more about that later. And all major projects are completed with the exception of Eagles Nest Arena District Office, which is why
007we are here this evening still, and HVAC in the performing arts center at the Elsundo High School. I think it's good to look back at all that we've accomplished from Measure ES over the last six and a half years. Starting with Elsagundo High School, we were able to make major safety upgrades. We made upgrades in athletics facilities. We modernized the beautiful William Watkins Library, creating a space for our students to collaborate and learn. But definitely the crown jewel of this campus was the new band and CBI building, which opened this past fall. Moving on to Elsundo Middle School. Again, we made safety upgrades. You'll sense the theme here. Um, we modernized science and band classrooms as well as Bulldog Hall, creating a more innovative space for our students to learn. We upgraded the storm water
008and sewer systems at Elsana Middle School. Not glamorous, but there is no longer a lake in the uh field when it rains. However, maybe the crown jewel of this entire bond program has been the beautiful new gymnasium we created for our middle school students um to learn and experience athletics. Moving on to Center Street School, again, we made safety upgrades here. We modernized the library, creating a literacy space for our young learners, added muchneeded shade structures to the playground, and most importantly, we changed the face of Center Street School. When you pull into our new safe and welcoming drop off area, our students are both safe and it creates a vision of the innovative learning that takes place in that school. Richmond Street School was busy this entire project. Um, we also made safety upgrades
009here. We replaced all of the windows at Richmond Street School. One of the selling points of this bond was that the windows at at Richmond Street School cried when it rained. that does not happen anymore. Uh we made a common sense corridor connection between the main wing and the Mariposa wing so students no longer have to go outside to walk between classrooms. And we replaced air conditioning and HVAC units allowing for better cooling and heating in the school. But the most important addition to this campus and most notable is the six classroom building that was added to the center of campus which houses our fifth grade and second grade learners. We are not quite done. We have two projects remaining. The first being Eagles Nest Arena District modernization. Um this building we are we are
010completed with phase one which added ADA access to from the back parking lot to the front. Uh if you haven't noticed that building is built on a very steep hill and did that did not exist previously. Um we are well into phase two as well. This building has not been touched in over 50 years. Um, and so what will come is a new welcoming environment that greets our new residents as well as our new employees with the innovative spirit that we have in the district. HVAC, window, and lighting upgrades will increase the energy efficiency of these buildings and flooring, ceiling, and furnishings will create a new welcoming space. Finally, moving on to our HVAC addition to the performing arts center. Anyone who's been there in the winter knows it is freezing and anyone who's been
011there in the summer knows it is very hot. We are going to level that out by adding air conditioning and upgrading the heating capacities in that facility. Taking a look at the financials, we started off with $92 million. As our voters all know, we have expended a little over $77 million. Um, we have commitments at just over 11.5 million, meaning we haven't spent the money, but we have promised to, leaving us with a balance of just over $3 million left in measure ES. But we have more funding coming. So, for every project that we finish, we become eligible for additional funding for modernization and new construction. In 2026, around November, we become eligible for just under $16 million in additional funding at the school sites. We have additional funding that we're eligible for in 2027
012and 2030. Um, we also have additional applications that are either in process or or um being considered um for a total of just over 18 uh million dollars by by 2020. And with that, I'm happy to answer any questions. I will just say I can't believe how far we are in this project process, all of it. Um, you know, I remember when we were just doing the town halls talking about what priorities the community had, what ideas we were thinking about, and it's amazing to see us get this far. So, we're so close. So close. But thank you for your work on this, everybody that preceded you doing this because it's been a long time coming and I hope the community gets to see all these things and really understands what their investment means. So,
013thank you for sharing. Thank you. The thing that I value the most is that it just seems on the surface like it's an investment in our buildings, infrastructure, all of that. But it really is an investment in our students because not only are we making the environment better for them, but even something like our district office, that's the first touch that our community has. And we are giving them a sneak preview to the greatness and the care that we take overall and the care that we will then extend to their children once they get to each of our sites, whatever sites that they start off with or eventually end up leaving. So I'm very proud. I'm proud to be here in this moment because this will be here for ye I mean forever pretty much
014until we touch it again and apparently we haven't touched it for 50 years. So at least for another 50 years we will have bragging rights on this right here. So thank you. I I you know I remember coming in in I I joined the district in 1999 and even then it was a it was a beautiful beautiful campuses and then I saw things start to go and when we started this bond and I spent a lot of time on telephones and on the street corners with my signs and um we worked really hard for this bond. Um the teachers worked, everybody worked. It's a community effort and it's and it certainly has paid off. When you look around the campuses, you can see it. Um, a lot of it you can't see, but I guarantee
015you that it is appreciated. Um, I know some of the work at the middle school with the the sewers and stuff, I I was across the way from the restroom that overflowed on way too often a basis. And so, you notice I didn't mention that part. the fact but the fact that it's all was taken care of that was all part of this bond and you don't see that but I guarantee you the people that work there and the kids that are using those restrooms are very happy that it got fixed. So why the gym is beautiful and it's great to look at all of the the internal stuff that sometimes we forget about is just important. the fact that the the the district office now is ADA compliant is amazing. Um and so just
016all of those little things are are huge and they're going and like you said, they're going to be here forever. These kids, you know, I look now and it's hard to remember what it was like without the gym at the middle school. It's hard. I drive by now and I'm like it seems like it's always been there. Um a because they did such a good job tying it in. Um, but it just, you know, it it just fits um like it was always supposed to be there. So, that's that's been really fun to watch and I'm so happy that I've been a part of it. And yes, I do love having my name on the middle school. Yeah. I'd like to just say that we we're really thankful for the people who had the vision
017and the courage. um you know um predated our board uh went out to the community, worked hard to to get the funding to get the bond passed. And um just to touch on what Meredith was saying, um the three big projects, uh the one at Richmond Street, uh all three of them have uh transformed their campuses. and enrichment street that was a corner that had um a dilapidated building in it and um the architects have um managed to create a beautiful building that matches the architecture of the existing but also has a modern flare to it. At the high school um we had tennis courts which were in really poor shape and weren't really used. I know that's a little controversial, but um we now have uh an amazing backdrop for the high school football
018field, which um also in the architects um were able to tie that into the the campus by using materials that match the existing buildings. So, it very much completes that quad. And then um at the middle school uh the site planning that the architects did up front um took a what was an L-shaped field and now we we we have this beautiful green grass that um you know I was just spent a week in Ireland and the grass is green there but I come to Elsagundo back to Elsagundo and I I it just reminded me of home. That's all. So, um, but it but it is amazing that we've created this very large space for sports in there and, uh, credit to everybody who's been working on this behind the scenes. So, thank you. Welcome.
019Thanks. All right, we'll move on to the consent agenda. Uh, do I have a motion? I move to approve consent agenda items 5A through I. Second. Is there any discussion? That's okay. Seeing none, I'll call for a vote. All me board members in favor, please say I. I. Passes 40. And I'd like to mention that member Sutherland is not with us tonight. She has a family event going on. Uh and on to section six action items. Um approval of the Elsagundo district goals. Uh Dr. Johnson. Thank you, President Glenn. This has been talked about a lot, so I won't belabor it. It is a very important thing, so I don't want to skirt by it either. So I want to just give a big thank you to the community staff, um the board for all
020their work. This is, you know, really it was one year in the making if you include the 90-day plan and such, but I really do feel it that we've worked hard in order to get everyone's input. Uh the district and leadership staff are now very busy working on strategic plans for implementation, which we'll bring back to the board in August to just show you, hey, this is the what the ground level looks like. Um but I uh um just am very very grateful for everyone's work. I I I really feel like that we've set a great foundation for the next three years and it's a lot of great work. So, thank you. And I recommend approval. I'll move approval of item 6A. I'll second. Is there any discussion? I think we've talked about it a
021lot. But but also, it's it's great. The process was was very involved and and thorough and gave plenty of time for input. So, I appreciate it all. I'm uh really looking forward to how we're going to show this to our constituents. I know that that's something that you've worked on and you gave us a sneak preview of it and um very excited to see how that comes out. Yeah. Um, credit to the Donovan group when we've were having sort of like a a marketing meeting, but we they are uh currently already it started about two weeks ago working on demos or mock-ups um that are actually our goals um in this case and so looking forward to putting that in front of the board in in August and we want to you know get that
022information out and we'll probably continue to to to play with it during the course of this year as well too. I I I to me like I think there's going to be some iterations or things that are bigger focuses in a single year. So that's one of the things we talk about Liam which like not it's not like okay here's the goals and for the next three years they look exactly the same for yeah that each year you know probably having a greater emphasis or putting something forward that we highlight um as part of that year to so a yeartoyear plan of communication to community and staff. Sorry. All board members in favor, please say I. I. Passes 40. Um, moving on to section seven, action items, business services. Uh, Dr. Lind. Yes. As required
023by Proposition 28 passed by California voters in November of 2022 to supp supplement arts funding, the Elsagundo Unified School District annual report is submitted. I recommend approval. I'll move approval. Second. Any discussion? I I just like this onepage report. How amazing is that? Like what? Right. This is incredibly efficient. So, thank you. Yeah. Right. Well, board members in favor, please say I. Passes 40. Um on to section eight, action items, human resources. Item A. Um, Miss Field like to introduce. All right. Um, this item recommends approval of an amendment to the superintendent's employee employment contract. The amendment extends the term of the superintendent's contract through June 30th, 2029 and places the superintendent on step 4 of the salary schedule B for the 2526 fiscal year. I recommend approval of amendment to the superintendent's employment contract
024as presented. I move approval of item 8A. I'll second. Is there any discussion? Seeing none, uh I do have to read this. Prior to the vote on the contract amendments, I will read a statement required by law effective January 1, 2017 pursuant to government code section subdivision C3 before taking final action on an employment agreement for a local agency executive or a salary or benefit increase for a current local agency executive. executive. The board must provide an an oral summary of the salary and or fringe benefits for the local agency executives. Local agency executive is defined by government code section 3511.1 subdivision D one through three as the chief executive officer a deputy chief executive officer or an assistant chief executive officer of the local agency in our district. We consider the superintendent, assistant superintendent,
025and any any other administrators and managers who are department heads and/or employed by an individual contract. For consideration of the board tonight is a contract amendment for an individual who is a local agency executive within the meaning of the law. Accordingly, I will read the following information into the record. The position of the local agency executive is superintendent. The term of the new renewed or amended employment contract between the district and the executive. the new salary to be paid to the executive and any other elements of compensation listed in the contract such as TSA contributions, health and welfare benefits, car mileage stipend, cell phone allowance, or any other district paid benefits. The proposed amendment provides the following provisions. Effective July 1, 2025, the superintendent's placement on the superintendent's salary schedule shall be moved from step
026two as set forth in 7A of the contract to step four with a commensurate salary of $300,718 and no cents to additionally the term of the superintendent's employment agreement will be extended. ended by one year through and including June 30th, 2028. There are no other changes to the terms of the existing employment agreement. The above concludes the oral summary of the proposed action in the area of compensation and term for the superintendent. The board will now take a final action and will take a roll call vote to approve the contract amendment. So, we're going to do it. I will call out your name and then can I have a point of discussion before we do that? Sorry. Go ahead. I think that read through June 2028 when it should be 29. 29. Okay. So, I'm
027not sure if we should. So, 289 to amend that or do we need to send it back? It's part just make it as part of the motion. Okay. So, but we have to restate the motion then because we already moved. Okay. So, do Okay. So, I can do that. I can try to do that. The original. Hm. Were you the original? No, I was. So, we just need to amend the original motion for instead of it ending June of 28 that it ends June of 29. So now second the readout the readout doesn't okay the motion's correct the motion was correct the readout was the readout isn't correct now we're clear okay thank you then I guess we can move forward good catcher well a couple of us were like wait doing your math the
028board was trying to sneak one by me there oh they wanted to get sooner we wanted to see paying attention sorry guys we're sticking with him for one more year. Okay. All right. Then we're going to talk about it. All right. Now we can do So, uh, wait, was we done with, um, discuss? We're done with discussion. Sure. Are we done with uh, board member Beechley? Uh, I, Clerk Weaten, I, uh, Vice Chair Miller, Zarnicki, I, and Chair Glenn votes I. So, passes four to zero. Thank you. Um section A B. Um Miss Val, this is an annual item that the district is required to submit to the commission on teacher credentiing. This declaration allows us to request special permits in areas where we may face staffing challenges and hard to fill positions. It provides
029staffing flexibility and is a proactive approach to help us avoid disruptions to learning. Um, we don't anticipate a need for all of these, but sometimes things happen over the summer or at the beginning of the school year and we may have to use some. I recommend approval. I'll move approval. Second. Is there any discussion? Nope. Seeing none, all board members in favor, please say I. I. I. Passes 4. Section nine, uh, action item, special education. Uh, item A, Dr. Pluckin. Yes. Good evening. The next three items are all agreements, master contracts with nonpublic agencies to provide behavioral services, individualized behavioral services for students indicated on their IEPs. So, A is approval of a master contract with the Stepping Stones group. And I recommend approval. I'll move approval. Second. Is there any discussion? Seeing none, all
030board members in favor, please say I. I. I. I. I. Passes for zero. Thank you. B is a master contract with inclusive education and community partnership, IECP, and I recommend approval. I move to approve action item 9B. I'll second. Any discussion? Seeing none, all board members in favor, please say I. I. I. Passes for zero. Thank you. Item C is approval of a master contract with First Steps for Kids, and I recommend approval. I move approval item 9 C. I'll second. Any discussion? Seeing none, all board members in favor, please say I. I. I. Passes 40. Uh section 10, item A, Mr. Ga. Yes. Uh the GST uh GST agreement is for the P for the Chromebooks for the middle school students. The middle school will be uh be transitioning from iPads to Chromebooks for
031the upcoming school year. I recommend approval. I'll move approval. Second. Any discussion? I just have a quick question. How how'd it go this year with the high school using the Chromebooks? Was it what you thought it would be or I from from my staff standpoint was very easy in regards to supporting wise and I believe um the students will like the Chromebooks because of keyboards. So yeah. Great. No further discussion. All board members in favor please say I. I. Passes 4. On to section 11formational calendar. The big news is no meeting until Oh, it's not even on this. Oh, here we go. And then it's gone. August. What? Board of Education 26th. Wow. Happy summer, everyone. All right. Uh, section 12, board members reports. This is this gets to be the shortest we Yeah. I
032We were just when we were walking in, uh Jason and I were saying like, I haven't seen you in two weeks. This is like the first time in a long time that we haven't seen each other at at various events. Um I would like to say uh that the uh Fourth of July um events at at the park or the recreation was great. I was with uh Dr. Lynn's cutting watermelon uh for the watermelon eating contest. But it's always nice to see the kids and everybody seem to be having a a wonderful time. Um and I would like to invite people to Movie in the Park um which is a uh fundraiser event um hosted by Rotary. Um but it is a large fundraising event that we use um because Rotary does try to give
033as Kowanas does uh we give um back to the community and that's one of our large fundraisers and we are showing inside out um and I will be there as I think uh Dr. Johnson said he was going to be there. So um so that's just a fun event. So that is on August 2nd. So, have a wonderful summer. And I think that's all for me. It's summertime and we have our Hawaiian gear because I guess we are gearing up for vacation, which we really are cuz the calendar was viewed. I want to take a quick moment to say to the cabinet who is always in play with us, uh, this is truly a team. We all have our Hawaiian thing. But Danny, I have to say if there was a trophy, which there just
034happens to be, [Music] it goes it goes to you, my friend. [Music] Um, we say Danny got laid at the board meeting. Good thing his mic was off. Um, with that being said, I do have to say I'm grateful for another successful close of a school year. Everyone has worked really hard. I think we all have earned the breaks that we will get at least from the board meetings and from the classroom and anywhere else. I hope that everyone has a chance to enjoy the summer the best way they see fit with family, with friends, with rest, with pets. However you choose to enjoy it, may it be good to you and may you have all the rest and replenishment that you need. That's it for me. Thank you. Yeah, I don't have anything exciting
035to report other than I've already started wearing that Laxa presidency hat trying to get uh that organization organized in the next two months. So, while I'm not here, I'm going to be doing that. Um and otherwise, I will say aloha and enjoy your time away everybody. And I'm sure I'll see some of you around town because we live in Elskundo and it's that small. So, anyway, thank you. I'm just going to say a little appreciation to our administration staff here because you guys really do not get the summer off because you're hard at work making sure that when uh day one comes around that everything's ready here. So appreciate you you being here doing your jobs. And that's my report. Thank you, President Glenn. Well, just when you all thought you were going to walk
036away, uh I have a a quick uh uh um uh it's not even it's not a discussion item. It really is a preference item um for the board about board updates. So, I've talked with board members individually about board update format and so and uh there was a desire to have just a discussion about um to provide the board update in either email and board docs or both. There's there's no action required here. There's no this is purely a preference of the board. Uh and you know from our standpoint which really this is a Tracy Jason item. There's no there there's no additional work here too. There's no there's no staff cost. So it's purely the board's preference. So the the the question that was asked is is that can board updates be emailed to
037the to the board in addition to because I think that's the general what I hear in the conversation in addition to uploading the board update into board docs so it's archived um and so uh I I for us it's just a a general direction from the board but I do you know you know want to bring this to the boards. So, what's your preference? And just cuz she's not here today, but I did talked to Heather and so Heather did share her preferences that it's uploaded and that it's emailed. So, I leave that in your hands to let us know what you want us to do. Does anyone have any thoughts? I I personally like it just in the board updates. I feel like when it gets in your email, it could get into somebody
038else's hands. So, that's that's all. if it were a email link to something to log into, which would be the same as just going to the website and logging in. Um, I I would prefer not to give it that extra moment of freedom. So, that's just my opinion. I'll weigh in. I don't have a strong opinion either way. I will default to the consensus of the board. Whichever we feel works works for me. I'll pull it however it's given for me. I just need to digest the information that's provided. I will say that I do believe we need to have it archived. So that needs to stay. Um I think as long as it's secure secure and Danny can make sure that we have secure email. The only reason I really like the email is
039if it reminds me on Friday to actually read the update as we're sometimes I I tend to lose track and that's partially a I'm retired me thing, but I tend to lose track of what day it is sometimes and so then I'll look and go, "Oh gee, I need to read the update." So if it was emailed to me, then I actually kind of get myself on track. But I don't really care. Whatever works for everybody else is fine for me. Well, my preference is definitely by email because my my email is in my hand all the time. So I don't have to go and log in somewhere. I just the thing pops up and so it's the convenience of it is um what I like. I understand that Tracy's scared that she will send
040it along to somebody else, but people can pick up your phone and you know, again, I know most of us have Yeah. face ID and all that, but I'm that's just me. I can be I can be paranoid myself. It's fine. Generally, there's nothing in the update that is gen Well, no, there can be. Never mind. Yeah, I I I hear that. Generally speaking, the information in there is confidential and privileged for the board. Um, from uh but from a a legal standpoint, there there is no difference between email or or um board docs. Um, in that regard and I and I want to emphasize on the staff and there's there's no preference here. It doesn't doesn't matter for us. Do we know in other districts is email common way of doing this? Yes. Yeah.
041Yes. That that and I I do want to chime in just to make one clarification because I know we talked about there being confidential information or not confidential information for the record. Anytime there is anything mentioned regarding referring to a kid, we don't even know who it is because there is just a number given and it's not the entire number, it's a portion of a number. So, we wouldn't even be able to work our way back to that. So in the event someone went to board doc printed it out left it on the printer let's say in a public library fake scenario if they got a hold of that they would not be able to find out any information about any student within our district. Now where they will where they will be well informed
042is the status of any construction project. So if they care about that it is all in there. [Music] Is there some way that um if there was something sensitive that it could be redacted or only kept in the the archive? I I the only thing I would say is I would I would argue that all of it sensitive with respect to the construction updates. I I to me the the the reason I mean there that's being disingenuous a lot of items are general updates that we could would provide in a a board meeting but a good portion of it would be redacted in that sense because of various updates that are confidential student or personnel and even if student numbers are used it's it's still confidential information and let's be real it's a small school
043district um So I we will we will serve at the board's discretion. I and I also would say too that redacted information digital is not foolproof. Um uh in that regard well we're not voting on this but no nor it's it's general consensus by the board. It's and again that there's there's no action, there's no cost there. There's there that's why it's it's not even an item. It sounds like you have a lot of people aren't on email. So email it is all right. The the general consensus that I hear I think is is email and uh boards. Another thing that we can do and we can talk to our our legal on this. So for the in the in the the title heading of the subject we can put board update confidential because I
044I just over the years of doing this that's one thing that and then we can put a statement with at the beginning of the board update which we'll just we'll keep on both documents that'll be a statement of confidentiality to to be shared. You mean like so at the at the top of that? So that's something that that I that I've also done in the past. Um, and I'm not saying that that makes it foolproof. I am saying that no one could ever say, "I didn't know it was confidential." And that and that is the intention of it is that it's got confidential slapped all over it. So, uh, uh, taking that uh extra step um, just so it's uh, actually make people want it more though. Yes. I think in this I mean that's
045my only concern. Yeah, I think in this case that might be them wanting to hack it more if they thought they were going to get something that was confidential. I don't think they were trying to avoid hacking though cuz like to me like that's a different question. Like that that is an IT security question. I I think in this case what we're talking about would be a it might unless I'm missing something that a board member you mean like um sharing uh a board update outside of the board that that to me is how I receive it because the only a board member has access to board docs and only a board member has access to their email and those things are all password password protected. Yeah. Um, you know, like I I would personally
046argue that and Danny, jump in here if you that an email is just as secure as board docs. Both are just password protected ultimately. Yeah. If someone was trying to share, they can just, you know, cut and paste and but I don't think anyone here is doing that. Um, we could have a protocol where we delete the email. I I I go back to to me the um the con the what I what I believe is the concern. So I don't want to speak for board members but as in having the individual conversations with each of you you mean like you know over the course of this year too because it's this came up early in the year in the early in the year as well too. is that it is about you mean like
047someone that would a board member that would share confidential information you know to me and this is for the board to consider uh I think if someone wants to share is has it in their mind to share confidential information that is not preventable because by being a board member you confidential information is shared with you I uh to me the only thing in that case would be is I hate but it's like the the jacuzzi that has like the sign no diving, you know, that it's it's stating the very obvious thing that you should not do. And you know, and I and I and I think that that that is what these these confidentiality statements do. You you see them a lot of times attorneys uh and sometimes educators have confidentiality statements on their email.
048Uh and the reason that is is that so if some if impropriy was found later down the road, someone broke that confidentiality, they could not say, "Well, I didn't know it was confidential." Um uh but I I I yes I do feel though that if that if anyone us included you know you know sought to share confidential information that that's impossible to prevent because we're in privileged positions um uh of that information. So so really it's it's it's a warning label. Um and I and I do absolutely hear you um Tracy in regard to you know word docs you log into you look at inside of um whereas an email definitely has a greater fluidity to it as far as communication goes and so and and to me but the only I could think of
049in this case sorry to be redundant would be to have the no diving in the jacuzzi sign. Um, yeah, I'm going to jump in because I I think we're giving a lot of weight to this and I think that's important because we should walk through it, but we also have to look at the risk versus the benefit. The benefit is that we have multiple access to the information that we need to do our job. Now, we do understand that there's risk if it's in our email. Tracy brought up a great point. Someone can get our phone and they can read the board emails. I would hope that they would be looking for something else. Like if you got somebody's phone, I don't know what you will want, but if your job is to read the
050board confidential emails, like man, you are awesome. However, realistically, it's just what you said. It would really take outside of someone hacking into our email account, which they would have to have the authentication pass code and all the other things, but outside of um outside of that on our phone, I guess they don't need it. But outside of that, it really takes us who have who would have the access to the information to then pass it on. I don't know that there is a risk indeed, but I'm not sure that the risk in this case exceeds the benefit of having access additional access points to the information. Which is why I said it's not that I don't care. I said I would default to the consensus of the group because if someone feels strongly one
051way, I definitely want to honor that. But at the same time, I want the information because having the information allows me to do my job and that's what's most important. Yeah. And there to build off of that because I and I appreciate the thoughtful conversation the you know, each district has its own culture of of communication and safety around communication. You know, this is uh and I the question was asked earlier, do other districts share via email? I I would say that that's that is more common than not. So, one thing I would point out is is that if there was impropriety and it was said, how could we ever do this? It's a pretty common practice to to share via email and email is is viewed as as confidential because it's password protected. So
052I I but but I I also just understand you mean like you know when there's a culture of safety around communication that's been built in you know changing that you know comes with greater risk. It it does I I understand that I will say my other board that I am on we get ours through email. That's how we get our update our weekly update is through email. Yeah. Another thing that we could stress as well too is that this is in the future that will be one day. You mean like though I though I I love this one um uh new board members and you know this is also what governance protocols are for and having the workshops and when you have a new board member you have a new board and you know and
053going through these these things and emphasizing this level of confidentiality um is essential. Okay. general direction. Okay. Okay. I think we got it. Thank you. Okay. Oh, sorry. I'm still going. I'm still going here. Yeah. Nice try. Yeah. Yeah. I got the microphone now. Uh uh just uh just a a few days on the on the Edside uh superintendent round table fall mixer is Thursday, August 21st at Terrace at 6 PM. Looking forward to that. Very excited. Just uh for our staff, the back to school rally is is around the corner. I'm probably scaring everybody saying that. Thursday, August 21st. It'll be fun. Board invited. We'll send all the calendar invites and such. Looking forward to having you there. Our students, believe it or not, will return before we return to our board meeting. And
054that is on Monday, August 25th. Uh and then, um moving in the park was already covered. So, be there. Excited to see you. Going to bring the family there. And then I want to thank the board again for the amendment to my contract tonight. looking forward to four more successful years together. Thank you. Uh closing items. We do not need to go to close session. So, it's my pleasure at 6:50 to call this meeting ajourned. And aloha. And that's the goodbye. Aloha.