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Joint Finance & Construction Committee Meeting of PSRC Board of Education: 3/10/25

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YouTube / PSRC Boardroom
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2025-03-11
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Robeson County, NC
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9,844 words · about 55 min
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2026-10-07

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001e e e good evening everybody um call this construction Finance meeting off order um we have our invocation by Dr Williamson let us pray Eternal God we're thankful to you for this day we're thankful For Life Health and strength and we're thankful to you for your goodness for your mercy and for your grace we ask your contined blessings and guidance upon this school system upon the work that you have ordained and called us to to do go with us and Stand By Us bless our students we pray for this nation we pray for the leaders of our Nations we pray for our service men and women all over this world be with us tonight as we share information and make decisions that would have an impact on the lives and the future of our students

002in Christ's name we pray amen amen um the first topic is going to be update on the career center from Mr TJ MC from meon so good evening chairman Simmons uh chairman Lowry and board members so tonight we have our two faces of our team that for our new career center we have TJ who's going to represent mcon and we also have Michael from sfna so tonight we're going to walk through the progress of our where we're at with our career center we Shar this information with principls and counselors this morning uh and again I always would like I shared with them just imagine 1984 was the last time we built a school within this District uh we've had different Wings in different places like that where uh students have been able but not a

003brand new facility from the ground up since 1984 and that was as a result of the her of the tornado over in Red Springs prior to that it was probably 1980 and that would have been East Robinson which I was able to enjoy for about six months walking into a brand new facility but again we're going to share some photographs and yeah just we'll just share the video that you've got and so TJ will walk through the video that he has at this point all right good afternoon I'm TJ GIS um project manager with metcon and our metcon team we're very excited to see the building coming along the Robertson career center um facility working with Bobby and his team and Michael and sfla and um we were going to start out with a video

004from site work but as we know we had a early sight package um start on all our sewer sewer lines water lines all of our underground work early on and now this is our most current drone video showing right now from a week ago I think this was March 5th so you see we have our exterior framing going out front um have all the structure done steel our slab on grade concrete slab on Deck the second floor that's area B that we're looking at right now and then we have um the planetarium CMU block walls almost topped out um and that is the only portion there where you don't see roof deck um this video will come around and go all the way up but we don't that's area a um that we'll be finishing

005up roof deck soon and then we'll be starting on roof insulation and um ice and weather shield to dry in building and start start working on some more Interiors inside right now there are block walls going in and all of the plumbing and electrical in wall rough ends and then we've also started on some Plumbing mechanical and electrical overhead rough ends um and one thing you can't see here as far as just every item going on we we have to spray fireproof all of the steel so spray fireproofing is going on all throughout all of the steel struct and So Co Cole now has access so he's gonna back up to the very beginning of our work all the way back in November of 23 okay here we go I think this is some photos

006um of when we started site work starting to get the whole site graded out um as you can see there the parking lot and the whole Drive Loop all the way around um getting ston and the large um retention Pond you know the plan was that the retention Pond will be sized as needed to use suitable soil and F from the pond to build the building pad up so that's that's how the size of that nice Pond came about um one thing that we did talk about earlier that's something pretty big that we've done is um you can see there in the top left corner where a Livermore Drive comes in and it used to dead end um right as is shown there but now we've extended Livermore drive all the way into the um

007school property which will be the main entrance for the school yes here you can see us just continuing to get the building pad ready so then we're doing that site work we you know we actually started Footers for the actual building around September of so with the newer video we were looking at yeah there you go yeah well this this here is jumping um all right yeah so this yeah this shows in um November 24 we started off area C still um and if you're looking at the building here from left to right it goes area a b c the reason why we started in C is to dry in the electrical room um you know we got a lot of our electrical panels and everything in there that we need to dry in so

008we can um Branch out to the rest of the building um so and now as everyone knows of course too is that we're adding on area D um so when you look at that most recent video it shows how far long we are with area a BC and then we'll be starting Footers in the next couple of weeks for area d um we work and some of us met with the commissioners uh area D that session is $15 million uh the county is providing s um and a half of that and then our agreement is we will provide the additional seven and a half Erica help me uh our agreement that we have is that once they finance the new health department that part would be included our payback would be what per year we

009did discuss that and said once we had those terms um in writing from the county we would bring back for approval to the board but we discussed a half a million dollar annual repayment on our part towards the S and a half million dollars but again the county um indicated they would not apply for that loan until they completed their audit for the 23 24 school year and to my knowledge that has not happened yet but once they do had those details and those terms we would bring it back for approval thank you Mr ER next we have on zero inine ready to school by Mr Michel hello everyone thanks for having me back my name is Michael hbor project manager with sfla Architects uh just going to give you another overview of the project

010as it's designed uh if you go to the next slide please uh so you can see here uh these this is a department plan so the plan on the bottom is your first floor and the plane on top is your second floor uh and I'll walk you through the color coding so on the uh if you look at the plane on the bottom on the bottom left there in Orange that's your Planetarium and Science Center area uh and then moving to the right of the round planetarium the pink area is your admin and that's the main entrance to the school to the right of that we have two classrooms you have a drone and EMT um to the right of that in the yellow and kind of those smaller rooms there that's your teacher uh

011work Lounge uh and some you know feacher restrooms and mechanical space and then again further to the right is your first floor mechatronics classroom uh in the purple on the far bottom right uh moving up from there so on the upper right you see there's four blue squares those are your business and industry Labs um they have a Opera partitions between them so they could either be two large rooms or four smaller ones those also have the garage doors on the plan North Side uh so if say you have an industry that's coming in and they have very large equip equipment they can roll it in and then with the operable walls they can even bring their equipment to those lower two rooms as well um to the left of those four blue squares is

012your Culinary Kitchen uh you have a kitchen you have the classroom and then in the green in that Center space there is uh your food service area so again The Culinary um it's also with the hospitality of um doing table service and all that so it's not just K cooking and kitchen but the actual Service as well and so we have dining TBL set up with uh you know Four Tops six tops that you know that you would have in a typical restaurant so they can practice seating people serving people and all that as well um and then moving to the top part of the page you can see there's those six purple boxes at the at the top of the plan uh those are your shops so from left to right you'll have Automotive

013welding carpentry Masonry um electrical or plumbing and electrical and all of those they have they're associated with the smaller blue square is the classroom that goes with it uh so and in the classroom we've got glass rollup doors on both sides of the classroom and so the idea is if uh as students are moving through the building or you have people doing a tour or maybe younger students you're trying to get them interested in some of the CTE programs they can move through that that Central learning Commons and see through to the shop and see the work that's going on uh transparency throughout the building was key so that way you know there's so much interesting work going on it would be a shame to sort of hide that work uh just in the shop

014so allowing that visibility through from the common spaces uh was key um and then they also in the yellow at the main entry next to the the orange where the science center is that's the student Gallery so this is where students uh can display their work um and so those rollup doors also allow in case they build something large they can roll through the doors and set it up uh in that Gallery space so again the Galler is very important so as all the students enter into the building you know they can see their work or their um friends work and it just to inspire people of what they're doing and not not hide it back in the shops but really celebrate it right at the the front of the school um and all of

015those shops in the back have uh rollup doors and uh standard doors out to a larger service yard uh where they can bring in materials and all that and then on the second floor so the plane on top um from left to right so the the blue classroom on the left is your drafting engineering classroom um and then to the right of that would be graphics and then the three blue classrooms on the right are your computer and networking and security classrooms with a lab in the middle that they share so you've got two classrooms but they both share that Central lab um with which is a great use of space um and then to the right of that you have another teacher Lounge in the yellow to the right of that is your second

016floor mechatronics classroom and then in the ellipse uh you have your group restroom but you also have your career center and just below that ellipse is a large collaboration space that students can use but it's also a great space if you have say Career Fairs or uh something going on that's um connected to the career center uh we have furniture out there that people can hang out and um you know experience with the career center uh go to the next slide please so this is our uh recent update to the reception wall um so what you're seeing here is the plan so the doors on the left are your main entry to the high school and then um you see the two reception desks and then there's a small seating area and then the door

017on the right that leads into your admin area uh if you can go to the next page Mr Craig has a question right oh sorry go ahead Cole can you go back one slide okay we they got the two phases of the building we're building the first phase that we've been told June of next year possible completion date of what we see here is that all of this bottom slide and none of these top slide or just does that break go so if you look on the on the bottom plan if you can see the mechatronics in the bottom right corner just to the left of that there's a stair so that stair is there in the base building and then it goes up and then that hallway to the left uh of The Culinary

018um just up into the left you have that hallway that so culinary the business industry labs and that one mechatronics classroom all of that is what we were calling area D everything to the left is our area a b and c which is in the base building and then the same thing on the second floor you have the me the one mechatronics classroom uh and that's pretty much it I mean we have that extra mechanical room now that we're doing area D but follow that same yeah that line right there is the demarcation between areas C and D so all of that is what is in that new area D okay thank you you're welcome let let me can let me ask the question so on on the original plan we were never sure about

019area area D okay and so that original conversation was being able to open that building next but now that we're further along with area D 90 more days and we can have the Building completed or is a little bit longer than that what would be if if we didn't occupy any of the bu building to include area D what would be the projected completion date now with red it's December right yeah so the end of 26 uh now including area D okay I couldn't see go ahead Mr hry thank you chairman John um I'd like to be added to this meeting uh my question here is area D is that the higher level no the it's on the plans if you look there's like a large uh purple classroom on the bottom right hand side

020of the page yes and then where the culinary is there's like a hallway like the one purple square and the four blue squares all of that is area D so it's the first and second floor so essentially we've we've done like an extension on the building we had it was sort of cut off there and then now we've expanded it further out okay thanks so looking at reception here's the plan and then so we redesigned this wall a little bit uh one of the um items we were tasked with was where are we going to symbolize the five high schools and so we were looking for places kind of around the corner from reception more towards the middle of the school and It's just tough because the way the school is when you and enter

021in you can kind of go different directions so there's not a clear location that you would you would pass by and so what we thought was is well why don't we put it in reception and the reason is this is the only opaque wall in reception the other three walls are all curtain wall glass and reception is right at the entry so as you're walking in reception will be right to your right and you'll be able to see through the glass and see the uh public schools of Robson County logo as well as the five high schools uh encircling it which did in alphabetical order around um and we thought this way too you know some parents may come in and they may not go beyond reception but this way they're also seeing these schools

022and it's not hidden kind of further back into a more secure area um and then creating you know using the ctec logo behind the two reception desks to highlight the you know what this school is uh so we've rearranged this a little bit to incorporate that um are there any questions about the you know the addition of the high school logos or anything like that I know it's been it's come up a couple times yeah I like that better than plaque that we had talked about putting on the wall that looks a whole lot better yeah we're looking at doing sort of like metal signs probably 14 18 inches Diamond so decent size it'd be on standoffs on a wall you know so they'll be they'll be really nice we like the ideas a dedication

023plaque is going to be there but then also the county logo the schools just this is sort of the representation of the county and that's what we really like it and we like showcasing it right at the front of the school so this way everybody sees it you may look at it through glass but I mean it's going to be quite visible um and then we we like the incorporation of the CC logo as well you know given this uh building its own identity um okay so we can move on please so this is a collage of the exterior materials so we have uh three different colors of brick um showing your standard exterior glass with that has some tint to it the one below it is a spangel glass it's kind of hard to

024see it's a warm gray spendel just in those zones you don't want to kind of see through uh we have some metal panel colors for the roof uh some wall finishes so um the blue on there which we can see on that panel we still have the three-dimensional uh ACM panel and that blue that has the color shift and everything around the planetarium um which is really going to be interesting as you're driving past on 7-Eleven that whole cylinder is just going to change colors and move in the light which is going to be uh quite amazing um and then we're we're going with a standard um clear anodize for the curtain wall that's really good for a maintenance standpoint because if it does get scratched it's aluminum under it so you don't really see

025scratches and things like that uh this is same slide just gives you the exact like names and colors of of what it is that we're working on go to the next one please so here's that board right there that we have we've left here in the office again this is the interior finishes um still working through some of the finishes with metcon as we get these submittals in but this is the the board that we're working through and I don't really for re see many changes uh from this seems like we're getting pretty much all these same products in uh so the theme you know we want a very warm building so a lot of wood tones uh kind of Earth Tones but then bringing in those pops of color to make it interesting um

026and a little more modern if you can go to the next slide please so we're currently working on getting some more final uh renderings I've made some updates to some of these exterior ones the interior ones are still a bit older so um hopefully by the next time I have the opportunity to present to you all we'll have some more finalized renderings but this is what your your building will look like uh from the front kind of from 7-Eleven perspective really uh so you can see the the blue cylinder will be that threedimensional metal panel that's on the table over here um and with the way the light's going to hit it and the color shift paint it's really going to draw your eye and be something interesting and proud of um you can see

027the canopy that goes uh into the school between uh the blue cylinder and the white metal panel box just below that white metal panel box is where your reception is That's All Glass so uh automobile parking is on the right there's a bus loop on the left so everybody will gather in the middle and then enter into the school and so everybody will be passing by uh that reception um and yes and this shows you know with the area d as well the extension we can move on to the next one here's another perspective of the front of the building with the area D so you have your mechatronics classrooms there on that that corner on the glass we've got an outdoor space um classrooms in those in the Sawtooth uh just sort of another

028perspective of the building you can move forward please and here's you know the perspective you know entering into the building under that canopy um again you can see you know the main entry the reception there your um drafting engineering classes up in that that white box planetarium in the blue the science center entry you can see is that white portal just to the left of the blue cylinder so you have a separate entrance into the science center so for field trips and that keeping that separate from the high school and so all your science center stuff will be to the left of that cylinder have the next one please so this shows uh in the central learning Commons um that the main stairs you come in the building um that metal panel on the planetarium

029wraps inside and out to the right you can see the uh classrooms for the shop spaces so the one up close you can see it says masonry so all the shops will have the names um in letters above them uh to make wayfinding much easier there's a digital screen wall straight right in the center of this image um that can be used for teaching or displaying different items for the school or student work um you know maybe the graphics class has done a project and they want to display their interesting work on that um and then we can move forward but you can see the nice warm tones from the wood ceiling uh here's the uh learning stair again this this allows teachers to break out from the classroom space they can teach in more

030of a lecture style here maybe students are working on projects together it gives them a separate space to break out um and work and then it also just gives you another circulation Avenue up to the second floor uh go to the next one please this rendering is of area D so you can see the culinary on the left uh culinary those that glass does not open like all the other shops because it's you know with the kitchen we didn't really want it to be opened up but we still have that visibility through to the kitchen so as you walk through there you'll be able to see you know all the cooking that's happening in the kitchen um this is where they can do their service just like it's in a restaurant um and then further

031down to the left is where your business industry Labs would be and then on the right uh on the first and second floors are your mechatronics labs and then we have an additional stair down here to get to the second floor for circul so this is your Culinary Kitchen um we've set it up so there's various workt stations and then uh we're going to have cameras over the cooking equipment and over the teaching stations with screens overhead and so this way you know even though the teacher may have to have their back you know to the class as they're cooking something on some of the equipment the students will be able to see exactly what's happening uh on the screens above and be able to follow along you know or if they're say practicing say

032knife Cuts or something that's a little more up closed you can zoom the camera in on that and the and the students can see and mimic it while at their tabl they don't have to try to gather around you know a cook surface or a prep surface um this is also can be um you know depending on how you want to do it you know maybe you have cooking classes for the community or maybe things are um you know you can you can show stuff online this is really up to you on what you want can cannot do but uh that option is available move the next one please this is your Drafting and Engineering classroom so this is in that white box that you see on the front elevation um it's just pretty standard

033tables and and desks there will be uh large format printer uh a 3D printer um for you know this curriculum as well if you go to the next one please this is your science center so uh what you're seeing here is your main Science Center space so we have tables that are on wheels that have um you know stools and that attached to them that all can be stored in the large storage room in the back um but they can you know if there's a certain project that you're tying back to a base school they can load up those tables roll them out and have the projects ready for when the students come uh we also have two 14 foot wide uh rollup doors that are glass as well uh into the maker space which

034you can see there on the left and what that allows you to do is either open it up completely like you're you're seeing it here and have a much larger Science Center space um or if you're say doing like a a summer camp or something in the maker space you can close that but still have it be glass so if you have other people coming into the science center you still have that visibility on what's going on maker space will have things like a laser cutter 3D printers and other Technologies uh for students to learn on go to the next one please uh and so the last slide here here is the planetarium uh so what we have is a 40ft diameter Dome there is going to be six digital projectors that will provide an

0358K uh image quality so very high quality uh there's also laser projectors uh to do laser shows and then in the center of the room is a optomechanical uh star ball so you get uh I can't remember what the numbers are but it's millions of star points that you can actually see because it's so precise uh and what this is this is going to be a state-of-the-art planetarium I mean you're going to you're going to have people wanting to come check this planetarium this is going to be uh Mr brand said this morning it's going to be one of the most advanced ones in the entire South you know so you're gonna people are going to travel around to come see this planetarium um and you know it just it just shows that robs County's

036on the Leading Edge right it's going to draw people here they're going to see this um and also you know we show you know a solar system here on the screen screen but you can put any educational content on this you know it depends on how you want to use the space right so it's not just for showing you know your solar system kind of shows and things like that um I'm really hoping you're G to do a Pink Floyd show or something like that that I can come visit you know you know Dark Side of the Moon show maybe I'm just throwing it out there you know uh so but but but you know the the possibilities are endless with this and and what it is as a teaching tool I mean they're digital

037projector so be creative use the space you know in whatever creative way it needs to be it doesn't need to just be you know about space or science you know you can use this in a huge number of ways and I think that's you know key to the entire project is flexibility you know you guys are going to be on the Leading Edge when this building opens and you're going to continue to be on the Leading Edge because this the space and the building can adapt to whatever the Leading Edge you know drives you to be and the planetarium is just going to be another one of those spaces that keeps you on the Forefront of education and technology and that's my last slide any questions about any of this that you've seen Mr chair

038what's the name of the system that um we're using um in terms of technology for the projection piece in the planetarium yeah um I I know that's kind so CIA is the the company it's ssia um they're the company that Aggregates it the I'm trying to remember what project I think they were the JBC ones they ended up going with I'd have to look back to find but um I believe the projectors are JVC I'd be interested in just knowing on what what other types of content could be displayed on that system because I I'm certain it probably has to be in a certain format but also with a certain um uh perspective too with the fishey piece it does and and the software that comes with the system you know helps you kind of

039format it so it does come in that there's also shows so part of this is there's shows that have been purchased as part of this agreement um so deciding on what shows will be something that your curriculum leaders will make a decision on but you can buy more shows um so if you find a need for something feel like I've seen one about Anatomy you know where you're kind of doing the flying through arteries and veins and all that kind of stuff and it's projected um you know they have ones more about like and you know trees and plants and all that kind of stuff yeah I visited the um the sphere in Las Vegas this past summer and I was thinking about the um the planetarium during that experience yeah there's so much that

040can be done there can and and I think if you look at um there's a lot of content creators out there you know that you can buy these shows from and so again that's where you know as you're developing curriculum you can look at what shows are available but they it does seem like they have them for a wide variety of topics um you know and that that might be a way to you know utilize the system to its fullest potential is you know see what other opportunities are out there um you know I know you'd have to look at how the interfaces would work but you know there's ways potentially like with a drone you fly a drone around for like your drone flying class well can you do that from the planetarium and

041fly the Drone from inside the planetarium right like I'm going to say I know exactly how you connect a to B on that one but it's possible right and so you just take somebody figuring that out so there are lots of opportunities with this other than just showing you know space programs I mean I'm sure that's probably G to be the majority of what you show because that's what they're made for but um again I think the possibilities are endless and so just utilizing your creativity to to maximize that that technology and the space that you have there um you know like a dark side of the moon show absolutely absolutely just Switching gears a little bit I was wondering um I just took a look at our policy 9300 about naming facilities and um

042the first step to doing that is to complete the naming of facilities form and um I don't know if if it's appropriate for me to fill out that form but I couldn't find it online I would like for us to propose naming the planetarium after Mr hooks who was our first planetarium director so that's maybe a discussion that we can have later thank you thank you I might have missed this somewhere along the road do we have in your project in our spcs a digital sign part outside for the public you know to highlight what's going on at the career center is there a digital sign on going to be on the outside that's correct we haven't we haven't designed exactly what it is we we have one designed in the drawings but what ultimately

043ends up being it's still conversations about because you have ordinances about sign sizes and that and so and how much can be LED screen versus typical sign so we're still working through some of that but we have we have money allocated for that we've already run you know conduits and that to that location it's going to be right in the center right off 7-Eleven so you know where that kind of Central Road is on the plan it will be in line with that in the center of the building um but we I don't I can't show you like an exact image of what that's going to look like just of yet so we're still working through that but we we do have plans to have the LED sign and then actually at the backside on

044Livermore we have a brick standard kind of brick Monumental sign for the school as well that have the address and that on it but the LED sign will be out front along 7-Eleven thank you thank you John I got one on uh we got the part here Zero Energy r school um just touch base briefly because I know there's solar panels plans to be put on it about where we where we are with that and what that means so we're we're still evaluating the solar panels we had that as an as an alternate uh during the bid phase the way the building is oriented it faces mostly South and that single slope roof I mean that was all designed to you know attach solar panels too uh The Net Zero Energy ready so you know

045typically what that means is you you you're not putting solar panels on we even though we're going to put the panels on we're still calling it ready only because the the electrical loads in this building are so unique right like we have 20 welding booths we have all sorts of other equipment it's really hard to pin down I mean are you using this welding boost two hours a day five hours a day like there's just some very unique loads until and so until we know exactly what this building's going to consume we can't really say that the solar panels would make it a net zero energy we're pretty confident will I mean it's an 868 kilowatt system it's a large system but I don't want to come here and say it will 100% eliminate you

046know absolutely all of your electrical requirements because you may you know utilize the building more than we're calculating for um you know if you do a lot of shows at night or something you know say at the planetarium or a lot of community events you know that just UPS your your electrical usage so um but Weir pretty confident that that very large solar system would get you um down to that that Net Zero uh energy and um So currently I've got um an estimate going on right now to try to get you know some current pricing on that um and we're just we're running down some of the details that we can share with you later on um but that's kind of why we say ready at the end is I just I can't I

047mean I would love to stand here and say absolutely like we've got it mapped out perfectly but an office building is one thing to calculate loads on school like this with it's many many very unique loads we're we're quite confident this is a very large solar system but you know I just that's why we say ready thank you Mr chair if I'm May let's follow up on that conversation and and so with the size of that system and I know we're not call it NE Z positive but at the end of the day it will produce more energy than we we use in that building so would there be a storage of that energy as part of that system so there's a there's a second system that is the the battery energy storage system um

048you know it is additional cost to have those batteries we have conduits run in case you do do uh you do go with a system um so we can add those batteries in conduits are already in place you know so we can hook everything up everything in the building is set up to have the solar PV system and the battery backup as well um and you know the benefits of the battery you know it's an additional cost but what it does is you know Electrical uh costs are based on time a day and like demand loads so what it does is the batteries allow you to store um and utilize that power you know during those Peak loads so what it does it flattens your curve out so your your cost is you know at

049that lower rate and you're not you're not paying for electrical during the peak uh so during peak times we would we'd actually draw Electrical uh energy from the batteries and and not from the utility to again flatten that curve out so there are definite benefits that we're pricing that as well as a separate line item um and you know it's it's a really interesting system you know again if say there's an emergency or something happens and you you know we have a generator but like um you know for this building but if you needed some additional battery storage we've got that as well so there's a lot of positives with going with a battery system it's just it will end up ultimately like everything in life will be a cost benefit analysis for your group

050so how close to being correct if I say at some point um electric build at that site if we put this system in would be less than $100 a month like when would we know I mean I think I think within the first year you know we would tune the system and then you know we'd have enough data to know kind of how you're using the you know all of the equipment within the building and as long as generally you're sticking to the same kind of usage uh we would know at that point um but you'd see it instantly I mean I mean if once the the system is installed and you don't get an electric Bild or you know it's it's pretty minor that will kind of give you an indication but I mean

051really it kind of takes a full year to get through the whole seasonal cycle you know because you're going to produce less energy in the winter you'll produce more in the summer and so um yeah take about a year yeah it would also allow us to add another discipline there in terms of clean energy um that kids would be able to to do that research and I've seen it in practice so that's a wonderful opportunity um to be able to do that I do want to make it clear through the board this is not part of the funding that we have it would be at an additional cost we had some conversations originally we said a little bit over $1 million um and in the committee meeting we shared that if we had to we

052could pull that from Eric let me make sure I'm right we could pull that out of our Capital fund balance I think it'll be a good investment and at some point we we'll ask the board Mr chair and both chairs to to vote up or down on that it's a good shortterm and excellent long-term investment for this facility Mr chair is um Lumber River are uh Energy company at this location yes it is the reason I'm asking is because I know that I know that uh typically uh for Lumber River um in many co-ops they require um net metering for for solar installations and solar panels which means you don't use your own power you sell it back to the grid so we may we may need to think about um if we're going to

053go this route applying for an an exemption from them allow us to um to use our own power rather than selling it back to the grid yeah that's something we have uh our energy manager in our office uh is looking into that okay um and kind of what the language is around um that that's also where the batteries kind of help right is because uh instead of sending it back to the grid you can send it to your own batteries and then you're you know you're pulling from that so again the batteries kind of eliminate a bit of that um back and forth with the utilities um but yeah we're currently at as part of this investigation is our energy managers looking into exactly what the requirements are for this utility company thank you anyone

054else thank you Mr M Mr chair I'm sorry go Mr hry uh thank you um with all all of this that's been described uh do we have any clue how far we are within or without outside of the budget as far as I guess we don't really have an established budget for that are you well I know we we talked about in part of the contract um you guys would get a percentage of whatever savings you came up with um sounds like you're working diligently on um coming up with savings and cost Effectiveness so I would just just wondering if we if we're predicting right now that we we're going to be within budget you talking about for the solar system or the whole the whole project oh yeah I mean currently we are we

055are well within budget um as it stands right now mecon is doing an amazing job I'll give it to them on on their end of things we're working great as a team and so um yeah we're we're definitely on budget thank you any other questions thank you Mr Mar all right thank you so much next we have the St Paul Elementary lead painton Mr Bobby good good evening again chairman Simmons uh chairman Lowry board members so just to give you a brief update on where um St schools or St Paul's sorry I'm sorry Mr Bobby I skipped one but I'm GL some safe schools okay so back back in the fall we applied for a $500,000 grant for safety equipment um for the district again I think this took place probably around October we just

056got notified last week that out of that $500,000 request we were granted $150,000 um the grant was written to uh update security camera and door access points throughout the district and if you are aware of pricing for either one of those we know that $150,000 is not going to meet uh the needs across all of the district so we will prioritize um where that money needs to be spent any questions okay now we St Paul Elementary now St Paul's Elementary lead paint so as you're aware um lead paint was found in the St Paul's elementary gym so we have uh been working with our contractor Raymond children to get a remediation plan together so our first step was to share those results from Raleigh in the county with Mr chis Mr chis came in and

057he did readings throughout the gym and on the outside of the building uh comparable to the report or readings that were given from Raleigh there were several areas that were completely out of line compared to the data that was shared with us from Raleigh so Mr chis U made several attempts to get in touch with um the County's person and also Raley's person so that we could get those numbers in line and so that when he did his work that it would be on point so um that meeting finally occurred heard and we are at the point now where the county is shared with us that once Mr childr gets his remediation plan together then they will approve it one of the issues that we have at St Paul's Elementary is that we are also

058installing Windows there uh in parts of the building where the lead paint was found and part of those windows have its best is in them so it's going to take the coordination Mr childr was already on board for our um as best as planned so now he's having to coordinate the lead paint remediation along with the bestas so that the windows can get install so uh simp to say it simply there are a lot of moving pieces here but Mr childr is on this and we'll get us a remediation plan together along with coordinating the abatement for the asbest in the building as well any question Mr Terry do we know about how many children have been exposed to this so the law requires us to notify all children under the age of six so

059uh letters will sent home to all prek children and all kindergarten children do we is there any way that we could uh work with maybe the health department to get these in to get these students tested and so what has happened the letter actually instructs the parents um on what their next step needs to be so but the parents are going to have to pay to get them tested right that I'm not sure of but it does require them to meet with their physician I I'm just a little bit um torn about sending a letter home and saying we may have exposed your child to paint go see your doctor and by the way it's going to cost you x amount of dollars and so we can definitely research uh what the followup needs to

060be with that because again those letters would have come from the health department they did not come from us okay thank you Crystal well I was gonna ask the same thing so he kind of as answered that but can you just address like the um oh my God I just lost my train of thought where some parents had concern about not being notified can you just address that so that's clar clarified so to the so the or original inspection took place prior to Christmas uh the health department did mail the letter out to the administration at the school the administration never received that that letter um the letter was for whatever reason stayed at the post office in St Paul's so when there were additional phone calls followup as to we've mailed this letter uh

061no one from the school is has responded then that's when we realized that the school had never received the letter so once we were notified verbally then we followed the process and timeline as if we had had the letter on that particular day so had we had the letter notifications would have been sent out in the timeline that the health department came in and did their inspection but written communication was never received by the school any other questions okay next will be the um cap out Pro update Mr Bobby so we handed out um and the title of it is updates on capital projects uh through several attempts my copier just did not want to cooperate me cooperate with me on the information that I put in the packets so we miss Erica created this

062and as I've shared with you every year one of the things I realized when I got here several years ago is we talked about capital projects but there was never a final list I'm sorry I think the one that Miss Patty gave you it might be flip so if you just flip it around and and so and so what what we've done over the last three or four years is just kept just keep a running tally so we're going to continue to add to this documents as document as we add capital outlay projects to this so uh just for your knowledge of where we be in 21 all the way up through 24 so if you will turn over I will not rehash those because all of those I think we only have two projects

063that we approved back in 20 2 23 that we have not started and those two projects are Tennis Courts at Red Springs High and completion of the football at Red Springs High and so our capital outlay projects were 2425 just to give you an update of where were the status of those so uh we agreed to do bleachers at lton Jr High but we also because of the price that the bleachers came in at uh we had enough funding to complete the floor and paint that facility so you can see that we estimated 350 there but we actually spent 4 by um about 435 but again that is almost a completely uh renovated gym there with new floor bleachers and paint uh sore replacement at Littlefield middle this Pro this project is still in progress

064met with the contractor last week he is still determining the water load at Littlefield middle to determine that the current septic field the current septic field that we put there several years ago will hold the load of the entire school we uh renovated the girls locker rooms at lton high and you can see that project came in at right at $40,000 so what we're asking or what the committee uh met and these are our current needs right now that we have no other choice but to to address these again um the roof at perel sweat auxiliary gym and we've got current estimates on this um these numbers would not be official until we're able to bid those out through our engineer but the auxiliary gy over at perel sweat we're estimating that to be about

065$225,000 the roof over at parking gy we're estimating that to be about 146 uh need to replace the roof in the Union Chapel pre- building this would have been the old cafeteria years ago we're estimating that cost to be approximately 98 ,000 uh IA was fortunate enough to get a grant to do some uh Renovations restoration at their facility and the funds will not allow them to add a handicap parking and a walkway there so we are absorbing that cost of about $15,000 and as we've shared with you many times before that based upon our current CTE review that one of the big ticket items that we have to address at our high schools are bleachers at Fairmont High St Paul's high and Red Springs High and in speaking with the contractor that has done

066all of our bleacher work the last four or five years or maybe longer than that he has just completed a project in South Carolina that the Gym's almost mirr those three gems here and he is estimating that those bleachers would cost somewhere around $196,000 at each site so those are our current um Capital requests for this year um let me stop you right there Mr Paul goe Dr man uh I'm waiting for him to get the 25 26 School requested projects have you gotten there yet no so that's my next step is that in speaking with Miss Erica that we have allotted about $2 million for capital projects for this school year or for 25 26 I'm sorry so you can see the total for the roofs the parking and if we do all bleachers

067next year then our grand total comes up to just slightly over a million dollars it's a mil 72,000 so that gives us around $900,000 that we could possibly play with and based upon the principal's request and listening from the construction finance committee we have listed if you would go down call additional needs or request throughout throughout the district I know Mr Terry uh you sent in today a parking at Peterson so that could be added to this list as well so there are the additional requests that have been made for this upcoming school year may I speak Mr chair M okay I'd like a correction the Magnolia there's a circular driveway that's where the potholes are this ISS staff parking now sure we like staff parking pay but there's more to it than step parking

068there the circular driveway where parents pick up and let off children that's where the potholes are and even buses come through there so I'd like for you to take another another look it's more than step parking and also something left off if you go in the gentan you look up and request to this and other people not just me is the SE the ceiling of the gym the the stuff is falling down you can go in they have to sweep it up I don't know what that is it's falling down that whether it's paint or whatever that stuff is falling down so I'd like to add that the gem and I I turn it in but I guess and transcribe it it got missing somehow but the gym at the Magnolia to look at the

069seeding this ceiling of it if if I remember correctly and Jason bullet bullet is in the bag uh that would not meet the capital definition but that's something Jason you want to address that that that would be part of our normal in that gym drel uh I'll go out to Magno tomorrow look at that ceiling and see what we got um I'm identify if it's a pain or insulation issue um I know I've run across the issue in the past sometimes the wrong paint was put on and that's you know it'll peel and start chipping off um but I I'll run out here first thing in the morning take a look at it um and I I can reach out to you and let you know what my findings are on it also well once

070you find some findings will you make a recommendation how to fix it yes ma yes I appreciate it thank you m Crystal um two things when will the Red Springs High School the older projects begin is there a reason why they haven't started or when they're going to start yes yes uh when we were notified uh about the CTE audit of facilities the original communication said you would have up to five years to get that work done and then that change that we had when you helped me to remember one year and so that became the priority and it puts everything down for you great question so right now we don't have like an estimated time frame no and then and um I don't know if I sent my email to the wrong person but

071for the requested I kind of like what Dr manual but at St Paul's Elementary when we were there the other day looking at the back parking lot area um well not parking but where the parents pull through if that's kind of what my request was just because I know when it rains it's like foots of water that the kids are like dropping book bags and have to walk in and the teachers are back there I have a lot of pictures of it so but I don't know if the email didn't go through because my phone's not working but that's all thank you Mr chair okay let me get um Mr Terry then I'll get you Mr Aaron okay I'd like to also add um enclosing the front of the school with oxendine with the list

072of proposals Mr Bobby I sent a long list and not sure if that made it but also um I was just looking here at um parking parking at the soccer field at Lumberton high and I'm out I'm fine with with that but I also just want to make sure that before we start working on something like parking at a soccer field to make sure all of our parking for staff is paved because even here it's it's gravel so if we want to prioritize because our staff parking is used every day so um so CH we did make that clear and the committee members both chairs made that clear that staff parking before we look at Athletics so that's been clarified Mr Henry thank you Mr chair um Mr Bobby um I was notified last week

073by the booster club from Red spring high and there me was I aware that they wouldn't have any football games or anything on or using the field because of the signage as far as the scoreboard and electricity out there so I think they're talking about the technology piece of it uh do we have a a reason as to why we we're not uh compatible with that at this time so Mr Henry at the football field there's not a scoreboard currently there the baseball field and softball field have scoreboards that was part of the original project there okay and if there's a connection issue uh it has not been brought to my attention at the two facilities okay I was told that they we weren't able to use the field because of that and that came

074from the booster club and and let's clarify again Bobby what you said the original plan for that facility did not include the football it did not and so we asked the board to approve that at that time and they did but that was not part of the original plan okay well I guess I guess my next question would be what what would it take to get the football field where they can use it I was going to add Mr Ro this is Erica um yeah it would need everything so you'd have to have bleachers the Press Box the scoreboard the um gopost the drainage I mean you everything would have to be done at that that site nothing has been done except the field portion um and the track placed around that so you'd have

075to do everything both sides of bleach Press Box um everything we just mentioned I guess I was under the impression when we done the um the ribbon cutting everything was ready to go no no that yes everything that was the original part of the athletic complex was was ready to go baseball softball Fieldhouse there's a concession standing in the Fieldhouse um but the football field was never part of of the original plan and Mr Henry when we bid that out I don't have the exact number but I'm almost positive the bids came back about $1.2 million to finish that project and as we were sitting here I got a text from that the bleachers will go up another 10% at the end of this month wow okay uh I guess we need to try to

076get that information to Red Springs um booster club um because they were inquiring about it we need to give them a focus I guess on what our plans are yes and and we do have that bid for the football field uh with it broken down by each individual line item of work that needs to be completed there okay thank you um Mr Bobby this maybe Eric question I don't I just need it for clarity um what Henry stated on the Red Springs High with the tennis courts and the football field that's $910,000 in 23 24 or tell back 2223 when we approved this is that money still sitting to the side or is that money already been s spent I'm not sure I can actually answer that question because at the time it was approved

077yes the money was there but as we move into other projects it has been used so that's why we don't have a position right now to say when it can be done because the dollar amounts Chang that 110 is way inaccurate on what the tennis courts are going to cost because at that time it was resurfacing three courts and now the conversation has moved to possibly moving it but either way extending it to at least six so that will be a complete overhaul and as you can see at Perell I think we're up to about 600,000 for new tennis courts so between the facility the tennis courts and Red Springs height will almost be the entire budget we have available for cap I I just wanted for clarity to see if that money was just

078sitting there or that thank you and on the tennis court that at West spr High keep in mind um where we would Place those courts we originally thought that we would be able to do that at that complex but then we would have to take up a large portion of the parking lot to do that and and so our hope is and Mr Craig I think you raised the point in the committee meeting that um once we open the football complex um and hopefully within a year we can we can do that and then perhaps the opportunity to go to the old track and place those tenant courts there but there was this issue with that so yeah um a couple of things if I made folks so just kind of back on History um

079just to reiterate what Mr Bobby said the origional complex at Red Springs High did not include doing anything with the football field they were G to still use the old football field and it came up I can't remember now exactly how but let's see if we can do a football field so we came up and did do the approval but that approval and I think Mr Henry's there um I think when it started it was like 800 to 900,000 and now we're looking at over a million dollars to finish the feel like it should be put bleachers out there scoreboard and everything so that's kind of why it hasn't been finished and the tennis court issue at Red Springs where they're at they got three courts now I would be opposed myself to building three

080tennis courts anywhere in this County um we get the money can work it out I I still think we can possibly at least check go to the old football field or the old track at Red Springs High School to actually where their old track is it's not being used now and go to the inside of that track and build a tennis courts there and if you can you build six because if you put six there you can play all the singles matches to start with now of course like everything else cost is gone up but I still think that's what we should look at when we get to where we're going to do those tennis courts because three tennis courts is just not enough for any High School uh with with what they do uh

081and let me make sure of this because when I first looked at this I I didn't understand it myself but uh if I'm not mistaken Mr Mr Bobby when when you look on here with these bleachers at uh fermont and Red Springs in St Paul's that's meeting part of this CTE requirement am I correct that's correct and that that's that's they don't have the ble that's at Lumberton and Swift the colored bleachers matching the colored scheme of the school so that's what these bleachers would end up doing if I'm not mistaken now and they would also meet the handicap issues that's required there too by CTE and don't have a price hit sweat and Lumberton but there's going to have to be some handicap issues met there also but the cost won't be nowhere near

082what it be at these three because basically I think we said that was signage and stuff but all of that with those bleachers is meeting the requirements that CTE is putting upon the county yes and so both both lton and SWAT currently have handicap accessible space within the gym it's just the day that the team went there they did not have them pushed in and they did not see the signage on the bleachers so there's minimal work that needs to be done at those two sites anyone else okay thank you Mr B and and to also add to the last page part of the finance uh request was to talk about or add additional capital projects that were completed either because of an emergency or were approved outside of the scope of the normal C

083Capital outlay work or approval so that's uh for you as well and I went back as far as the 2020 this by no means is this all the work that we've done at schools what I'm going to call these are Big Ticket items at schools where work has been has been completed so you can see in 2020 we completed several roofs 2021 there's a whole whole gamut of projects that were completed there if you get down to the project that are highlighted in yellow these projects are Insurance because of some storm or something that happened at the school and we had to complete these projects now just because it's highlighted in yellow that does not mean that the insurance is going to cover the entire cost but because I use for example pimber Elementary uh

084insurance is going to cover a portion of the cost for that roof but again we were there so why not do the entire School while you're there so we're going to pick up some of that cost the question was also raised about can you just see where our ESA money is gone so again the the esa projects fall outside of the scope of capital outlay so you can see how we spent S2 and S3 funds so um because we were able to receive an extension and this has always been in the plans so this summer we are putting in new windows at o that 36 356 364 for 400 that's ox9 pimber Elementary St Paul's oxy 9's windows will be what I'm going to call the old Wing as you first walk in 364 will

085be in the entire School 400 is St Paul's Elementary which will be the gym cafeteria and you can see the cost of that as well about a little low about $4.7 million and I just want to say I'm sorry sorry to use that I didn't know this document would be presented I will update that to show the schools that's the internal the school codes that I use so that's why it wouldn't all fit in there but I'll update that to include the schools and and just to look at that final dollar amount for Esser is over $50 million that we've been able to spend in the district either HVAC playgrounds outdoor classrooms uh multi-purpose or our our windows and this is funds we would would not have had if the federal government had not sent

086that to us that's true so just to be clear just refresh what you were saying the most of majority of our capital outlay is going to this CTE review correct this year yes okay now second part of that question how much do we have far as the pecking order on what we've requested is my question that is the at the discretion of the committee uh what you would then my question is then what's the pack in order of this of what we're going to do try and do much as we can with the money we have um if the parking lots is is the one that we can do the most all the schools then we'll do the parking lots and then what if have anything left then we'll go from there and so if

087if if the pleasure of the community is to pull Mr Jason and his team together to look at the list of requests here and kind of prioritize those based on their what they go out in the field and look at we'll be glad to bring that back to you and say here based upon what we see this is where we could possibly fit some things in but we do know at this point the dollar amount is probably about 900,000 but that's going to change and then that's going to determine yes good question M Chris so this has probably been an ongoing thing but for the softball fields at the St Paul's high school the restrooms still getting a lot of calls and concerns and time frame on if and when there's going to be restrooms

088for that softball field area for I guess the bathrooms I know there was some issues but back a year or two ago with like handicap wheelchair accessibility not getting able to get to the bathrooms and they're so far away so is there any plans on that or so at the moment we do have a design we were going to hopefully uh do all of or as much as the work as we could inhouse um but at this current time we do not have it as one of our projects Mr chair um Mr Bobby before we get too far I wanted to say looking at the S 2 and S three funds s or four funds that was spent in agac was a outstanding accomplishment by our maintenance group I think that was one of the

089smartest moves we've made in a long time because that's a necessity during the summer and the winter and you see you got a good cross section of the whole County of all schools pretty much that was in desperate need of those of those services and and if I could add to that Mr Brewer had it not been for erer funds you would not see those xac projects up there that's right thank you you're you're looking it right at probably $30 million or more in HVAC work that has been done in this County that's right [Music] okay do we have any more agenda items what now do we have any more agenda items just this is it right here I just wanted to ask a question in preparation for tomorrow night um maybe Miss Erica um

090those uh the Yonder pouches if we um decided to go with with that would that be um purchased through local funds we we answer that tomorrow because that's on the mar agenda okay I got a different one it's not on the agenda um the company that we use for to hire um teachers um to come from overseas do they have H1B visas or what type of visas do they have that'll be for tomorrow too everything that's on our agenda if it's not for finance or construction we that would be for tomorrow's agenda okay we don't have a HR um committee I just wanted to throw that out there we probably need to start one okay Mr C U folks let me make a comment about this 25 26 so so so if you want to

091blame anybody you can blame me and I make sure that's heard clearly um I had asked uh well Mr John and I think Dr Williamson about sending out something to get responses from board members but now I want everyone to understand uh I knew the responses we would get we were not going to be able to do it nowh close to all of them now priortize and deciding what you do yeah that's got to be done but it was just to get a list so we because we were about out of list for anything next year and I always believe you need a list to so well we can get this done we can get this done then you mark it off the list now sometimes things might take two or three years but that's

092how this list come up and if something was left off you know I apologize but eventually you know put it back on there and we keep looking at it because you know I look here and there's what 15 things um with a million dollars those 15 things aren't going to be done I mean I just be realistic we're not going to get those done we know that we get done if we get one or two of them done then you get it marked off so that's kind of where that say so just keep that in mind and probably be doing the same thing next year adding something else to it marking something else off and that's what's been going on as Mr Bobby said the last five or six years that's what's been going on

093if Mr Jason can go out to Magnolia tomorrow and find out something that they can do again that's something you take away it's done and you just in my opinion just keep working at it that way but I just want everybody here you share it with other board members to make sure you understand kind of how this come about thank you do do y'all need an approval of this or yes need an approval of this to send to the full board or what what happens next yeah we need a a Mr John you P 25 yeah whatever whatever is there needs to be approved and then that that needs to be approved separately at that 2526 all this all that yeah just the 25 26 [Music] projects I'll make a motion to approve to 2025

09426 projects okay we got a motion by Mr Trey to send the 2526 project to the full Board second by Mr Henry all in favor saying I I all oppos I have it any other questions Mr chair I make a motion that we Jour oh just a minute Dr May's got one I don't have a question I just have a comment I know it's very difficult with the um CTE audit and what came up but I do think you all making a good conscious effort to spread the joy everywhere go down to the elementary middle as far as capit outlay and not concentrate just on high schools because it is um they are receiving a lot of Renovations and things of that nature and somebody made a good comment while ago who was that made

095a comment about Paving the soccer field before they did the staff parking lots I don't know if somebody make that but that was a good observation I guess what I'm saying is uh make sure everybody gets a turn at receiving Renovations and things that nature I think y'all doing a fairly good job with that thank you anyone else go ahead Mr y I'll make a motion that we adjourn second by by motion Jour by Mr Henry second by Mr Crystal all in favor saying I I your journ

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