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01/20/26 Taylor County Schools BOE 2025-2026 Meeting #20

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2026-01-21
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Taylor County, WV
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2026-10-07

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001Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. It's six o'clock and I'm going to go ahead and call this meeting to order. All the board members are present. It is the practice of our board of education to begin our meeting with prayer and the pledge of allegiance. We invite you to bow your heads for prayer and stand to stand to join us in the pledge if you so choose. Let us bow our heads. Lord, we respectfully ask for your guidance and wisdom as we proceed with the business before us. Keep us mindful of our purpose of providing a quality education for the students attending Taylor County Schools. Amen. Uh, Dr. Slings, are there any adjustments or agend addendums to the agenda? >> No, Miss Garvin, there are not. >> Thank you. Superintendent respectfully requests the approval of the

002agenda as presented. Mrs. Knots moves. >> Mr. Taylor seconds. Questions? All those in favor? I opposed. Motion passes. Bringing us directly to the 1000 series information, a work session on budget and personnel. >> Jump right into it. >> Okay. I just like to I wanted to uh ask permission to at least give a brief overview. Uh I've asked Mr. Dolan to provide us some information since we'll be speaking of budget and personnel. I've asked him to provide prepare and share some information that will provide reassurance that we are that the school system is not working under a deficit. I know there's been some concern about that raised and I've investigated that with him on multiple occasions and uh so he is prepared to do just that. Mr. Dolan, >> as Dr. mentioned um going to

003provide some information to reassure everyone that we are not operating at a deficit at this point in time. Um as of closed as the balance sheet that I ran today um our unassigned fund balance for fund 11 which is our general general fund is uh $2.1 million. So the unassigned balance is the amount of funds available after we have paid all of our bills for the month. [snorts] Like I said, it was run today, but it's through the close of business of on December 31st. So that's just fund 11. fund 12 um which is our excess levy um we have a uh restricted [clears throat] fund balance of 4,95,166 currently in our uh bank account as of close of business on December 31st uh 2025 we had available at that point in time We had

0041,765,443 at our local bank. As of December 31st, 2025, in our West Treer's Office account that I commonly refer to as our savings account, we had 11 million 93,99759 [clears throat] in our bond proceeds, which is also kept at the at the close of business on December 31st. We had 11 million412,241.50 have any questions? >> Just to clarify, an unassigned balance is the money left in the account after we have paid all the bills for the month. What is a restricted balance? >> So the restricted balance is [clears throat] because it's the excess levy. It's what's stated when the excess levy was ran. So all the line items that all that was voted on >> that that's why it's stated as restricted because it's it's put it a specific purpose. >> Correct. >> Okay. And

005that I just wanted to make sure that we're all up on the same set of definitions. Um okay. >> Thank you. In addition, we want Dr. Decker will have some information in addition to what you have sent uh were sent over the weekend uh or prior to this meeting uh regarding uh personnel. This evening's meeting uh in my estimation is a meeting of uh reviewing that information, discussing the information and making some difficult decisions so that we can get some direction from you as a board uh regarding how we should proceed as that discussion continues. Um I'm trying to that's my understanding of what this discussion need the very important information was one setting the understanding clarifying so we can be reassured we're talking budgeting we're actually working with funding and the other is that

006uh you had requested information I'd received information about personnel um there is the information just to clarify and I I don't want to I'll try to speak to that initially the information that was provided added to us in December and then more recently at the Anna Jarvis meeting was intended just as a as a precursor to this conversation to let you know what we were looking into. Uh there are no decisions or recommendations to be brought before you because this particular meeting is not it is not a timely thing to do tonight. It is merely finding out what direction you are interested in doing as a board so that we know uh how to proceed with that. Uh we are in the personnel season. People call it personnel season. Uh we're not interested in uh

007we we don't have any definitive information yet for you. We just merely know that other than you you know that the status of their projected overage over formula is causing us concern and it warrants uh discussion. And it's not about any person. It's about the numbers that seem to be projecting that. And that was one of the things that we put in that packet you received over the weekend or prior to this on Thursday. >> Capital T R E A S. >> Is that the information you received? >> My apologies. [clears throat] I have numbers >> actually. I numbers not word. Sorry. >> Well, I I don't want to throw him under the bus, but the very gentleman that serves in that position was the speller of that particular word. >> And he and I

008>> he and I routinely say, I need you to be somewhat bilingual. I speak, you speak numbers. I speak letters. And so that's why we have uh prepared this information and we're hoping to discuss that tonight. This information I'm sending or passing around now is what Dr. Decker has helped us gather and it is reflective of the county central office and the uh and the personnel here, central office personnel. Okay, that's probably >> I I have on your address. Yeah, I'm not sure how you prefer to proceed, Miss Garvern or any other board members. >> I mean, I think we all have a lot of questions. Um could you maybe just start by running us through where that formula puts us because we I think we all know that at the elementary level it is

009based on number of bodies to a certain extent like X number of kids requires X teacher X plus requires teacher plus aid new mandate requires aid in every classroom. Um but when we get into the middle school and the high school, >> the way that wiggles out is different. So can you just sort of refresh us on how we're doing that and what is >> Well, let me let me start and then you add questions if as we need clarification. The elementary level as you know that uh we routinely traditionally used to have pre aids in prek and kindergarten classrooms. Subsequently, according to uh the uh third grade success act that went through, we were expected and were ahead of the game in this county to make to ensure that we hired an aid for

010every classroom through third grade. That was done. Actually, uh you wisely did the first and second grade one year early or the second grade a year early. Um and then subsequently then picked up the third grade. Uh since that time we all and then when we get into there are certain case load requirements for teachers and those vary as you get older and we are allowed to pay uh at the younger level let's say there's a cap of 20 we can pay up to 21 or 22 per uh at the teacher salary we divide that by the children and we multiply that time so she or he gets that money overage for his or her salary. case loads uh at the middle school increase as and on into the high school and at some points

011there's no there's no real cap for that. Seven seventh grade is when that stops. Um factoring in the aids that are requested and or approved and assigned for special services. Uh and in some cases we have classrooms that may in fact uh currently have younger group students, classroom teacher aid and a special education goes in. Um it's those kinds of things that uh might be contributing to our enormous number of faculty that seems to be for Taylor County an enormous number. Uh when you look at 70 over that's a combination of professional and service personnel. Um >> yeah so to clarify we are currently not 70 over. So let's first start I think with that. So yeah so right now so last year uh we every note end of November Mr. Dolan as a as

012the treasurer and per personnel directors receive a form that I think Mr. Dolan has for you that goes to everyone in the state. Actually, everybody sees all this information. And so it's talking about funding um that the state gives you based on the formula. And so it tells you how many service professionals will get be funded, how many professionals, how many support staff, all that will be funded. So last year when we got our number, we were in the 30s. Let me find my exact I have all these papers. So we were 32. That's the paper that you originally received on the December board meeting that I gave you. Yes. With that, Miss Gallow, that big chart. Um, so, uh, on the December board meeting, I I provided you with that information and then again,

013I provided you with that information, um, last board meeting as I thought we were going to get into that and then we didn't. And so, I think that's what caused some confusion, but we were in that 30 around 32. And so what we did is we received funding for all those people less than 32 people. So that's what the budget for this year came at. And then we added 23 positions between that budget season till now. So that's putting us in the 50s over currently. So right now we are 50. I don't have the exact number in front of me. I will find it here in a second. But uh we're in the 50s. The 70 comes from this year's November data that sent that we got sent to us that says next year you're

014going to get funded for this amount of positions, this amount of positions based off of your student enrollment. And because our student enrollment declined, we were funded for fewer. So that that increase that we did ourselves, we did that all of us to ourselves by adding those 23 positions and then that funding decline hurt us to get us to that 70 projected for next year. So if we do nothing during personnel season coming up, we will be 70 over the formula. If we make adjustments prior to then we will never we will not ever become 70 over the formula. So that's that 70 is what is projected for next year with our funding. But we are not currently at that. >> Um I have a couple of questions. >> Sure. Uh, how many positions does

015our excess levy cover? >> That is a Mr. Dolan question. >> Well, I don't care who answers it. I just want an answer. >> Yeah, sure. I know he was looking at that. I know for sure. >> Um, >> if I can interrupt while Mr. Dolan is looking for that information. This very often we see parts of people a a for instance this central office sheet >> has 39.33 total number of employees and last I checked.33 is not a human >> so is that a 200 day person is that somebody who literally works two and a half hours a day in that department to be a third >> they work they work among three departments >> okay so they are shared among three departments. And so that is where we we divide them up that

016way. Mr. Dolan looks at funding a little bit differently. That's why it might look a little bit different on his funding source, but actually the work that they do, they're covering three offices. For example, there might be someone that works there is someone I don't have to say there might be there is someone that assists with nutrition, assists with safety and attendance, and assists with transportation. So, she's divided among those three areas. She's Yes, that's what Yeah, that's what Yeah, >> and I understand that. But I also know that part of that formula is a 200 day idea. So when we get a service personnel who is not 200, they do a 240 because of something. Now they're more than a person. So that skews how they sit. >> That skews how it looks like

017they sit in the formula, not necessarily. >> Yeah, Mr. Dolan and I discussed that chart that you first received back in December with that big chart where I showed you the numbers. Yeah. Yep. That one. Um and that's what we believe is that there was a mysterious five floating there that we when we look at the chart that we believe that five is representing exactly what you're talking about people over 200 as the explanation of that. We can define everything else. And so that's what we believe is we are paying that we're not paying but that's what it looks like. were over a five additional people in that in that world. >> Okay. I'm looking at the the chart that was in our handbooks uh our notebooks for 26 27 enrollment predictions >> and I

018look at the number of teachers at each different grade level for Anna Jarvis Anna Jarvis and I come up with 21. Does that mean there are 21 classroom teachers there? >> Yes. And those those are just in preK to fourth grade. Now, that's not title one. That's not special ed. That's just when we're looking at simple enrollment numbers for those grade levels. >> And I look at total professional staff >> and that's 41.5. Does that mean there's 20 additional professional staff? >> Yes. over and above the >> that means title one special ed counselors principles uh communities and school all the extra things nurses everything else that we give them that is an addition yes the same thing at all you'll notice like at Flemington too you only see however many 1111 there's only five

019or six yeah and so >> six positions >> so there are and extras in in special ed and title one and intervention and communities and school and nurse and counselors. All those are extras that are included in the professional count there >> and that covers like the specialists uh the music teacher the PE teacher the not an actual >> yes those numbers are actual class literally represent the classroom teacher in that grade level >> you're not getting all the extras that's where that number looks probably a little different >> yeah that's a [laughter] yeah >> huge number of additional personnel over and above the classroom teacher >> Yes sir. Do you have that information? And you may not tonight, but do you have that information for us as um those positions that are required by

020code that are not in the classroom? >> Sure. Yeah. So, we we can definitely talk about all of those types of positions. So we met um so just to give you a little background on what I do during personnel season every year. This is not any different. So um what what I do is I go to the schools and we look at just enrollment numbers and we talk about where enrollment might be dropping or where it might be increasing and what we have to be looking at. And so we did that. We've already done that. always do that in the month of January just to get our kind of thoughts started because we have to have letters out by April one and we have to have all decisions made by May one. So, it takes

021a little time of how to do that. So, it's beginning conversations this year. Um, Mrs. Roberts and Miss Fischer went with me as well as we knew this these numbers were looking a little bit different. We wanted to provide all the data that we had. So we provided data on special ed students because you know every year we have special ed students leave elementary school, go to middle school, leave the middle school, go to the high school, how that transition was going to look. We looked at title one funding and what cuts might be happening. Uh and so we looked at all those things. So definitely we also then met with directors. So we are over formula on by code to say so for example um if you really look at code we only would

022be required to hire one nurse in Taylor County schools. So that's a code number and we're like okay so sometimes looking at that code is maybe not in the best interest but those are things that we have to look at. Same with we we look at are looking at everything. We looked at cooks. there's a certain how many meals they have to serve as to how many cooks we should have per meals served and so we had um Mrs. Nines look at that. So as far as code is saying there there are things that um even at the administrative level that we could be looking at whether we have to have but what is the best practice of the board wants us to that's the kind of direction that Dr. Stings was talking about is

023we kind we need a direction to know where you want us to go to start looking at that uh to start looking as jobs open. Do we want to eliminate as jobs open? Do we want to eliminate certain things? Do we want to eliminate we really need a number to shoot for to eliminate? And so that's kind of the the discussion. But if we we can get into very specifics if you want though of how many like like I said how many nurses we're supposed to have per code, how many counselors supposed to have per code, how many building administrators by code, all the things. >> I just feel like it's hard I speaking for myself >> to give you an informed direction if I don't have the whole picture I guess is kind of

024my thought. I don't know. The other thing I just for example take Anna Jarvis you've got 21 classroom teachers you've got 41 and a half professionals >> how many of those are covered by uh the the formula you know how many teachers plus professionals are covered by the formula for that school >> and and >> how How many have we covered with excess levy >> over and above the ones that are covered by the formula? And if the if the ones that are covered by the formula come up to 30 and we have five more covered by the excess levy in one way or another, then that gives me a number to work with as to un unfortunately it doesn't break it down for us that amount. So if you'll Miss Gallow um we'll look

025at the chart the other chart that I first gave you. So on that line it tells you Yes. Yes. It tells you the total number on the front page the total number of professional employees we are funded and it's 150. Can you read that number? I don't have that number. professional number. So we have we were funded 146 professionals for next year. So that would be 146 professionals across all of our areas. So it's not really funded by school. It just tells us that we are they will give us funding for 146 professionals. And then if you'll go down and look at that service number, it's So the number of service is 110. So that those would be the numbers that we would be funded for. Anything above those numbers we would have to fund.

026It it says in the code that the superintendent determines the appropriate amount of staffing per building, but that's the anything that we go over that number, we have to figure out how to fund, but that's all the funding. So, it doesn't break it down by school, unfortunately. We just have to use some of those classroom numbers to help us to help guide us in that direction. And so like we can only go up to 23 in kindergarten, 25, 28, and then the AIDS of course. And then the counselors, I believe the recommendation is around the 250 mark that we have a counselor. Um they recommend a counselor for every 250 kids, but you can go up to 500, I believe, in the code. I'd have to pull that exact number, but those are the the

027types of specifics. Again, at different grade levels, there are different requirements in that counseling as well. So, I wish that I could say Ana Jarvis is funded for 35 professionals and 25 aids, but I I I don't that's that's a local decision. All I know is I I can tell you that we're funded for that amount by the formula and then we have to make the best decision as to where to place those people in buildings. I know that's not the answer you want to hear that. That makes it difficult. >> It [laughter] does. >> And and and I'm sure it makes it difficult for you as well. >> Yes, sir. >> But but for me as a board member to give you direction based on >> I think the direction is that what number

028are you comfortable paying in in over the formula because of local funds and then it would be Dr. Stalling's recommendations to you as as how to get to that number. Well, I I don't see, and this is just me as a board member, I don't see me telling you a number, like just pulling a number out that I'm comfortable with because I'm not going to know if I'm comfortable with that until I see the needs of the classrooms or wherever in the county, right? I mean, I'm not I can't sit here today and say, "You gave me the numbers. This is I think what we should bingo right there, you know, hit that target until until I hear what the classrooms need, what you know, I mean, how many students we're going I mean, we

029don't know yet what we're going to see in kindergarten. We have no idea yet. I mean, we might have a small idea, but we could still be getting We've seen this every year. I mean, I mean, not every year, but a lot of years, we have kids that are enrolling at the last minute, and we have to make a decision on extra teachers in at the last minute. So, I mean, >> I don't see >> I I can't see myself >> I can't see myself giving you a number tonight. >> I think the question is funding. It's not really about um it's about what we can afford funding wise to pay over the formula. That's the question of conversation. and that that what what I'd like to see is what the excess levy covers funding

030wise in terms of numbers of personnel over and above the formula. >> So currently we're we're paying 18 employees. >> We're paying what? >> 18 there's 18 employees funded out of the excess lobby. Is that professionals or all? >> That's a combination of professional and service. >> Okay. I I have another question. So over the years we have added positions that we felt were needed but may have been a little bit more on the nicity. Does that make sense? >> Like extra this or extra that. Is there a way that we can look at those first? So this is what we have we have went to share data with principles like I do every year. Same type of thing. And and so what we've asked for them to provide us, we've not asked them to

031give it to us yet. We just gave them all the data and said start thinking about these things. But start thinking about exactly what you just said like the type of position in your building that you it's great to have we obviously we don't want to take away any positions but but reality is where we are but think about so this is what I said don't think about we can't think about individual people even though we do in our mind and our hearts but think about the the workload that somebody is doing and if you are going to eliminate that position who would pick up that workload and how would that impact students and make a list of what impacts students the least and and make those start thinking about that list to be able

032to share with Dr. Stallings as we go through this process. So that is the the conversations we started. Again, we've not I've asked them not to tell me anything. I don't know anything except those were the types of conversations that we started just like you said the positions that we have added that were extra support that maybe we can back away from now. >> So are are we like 72 or 73 over at this point? >> That's the projected number >> for next year. And the projected number for uh us being paid by the excess levy is 18. >> That's information narrative underneath of it. I'm sorry. the information that was in your packet that you received. Uh this there was a one of the pieces of the attachments included uh two figures and there

033was a little narrative underneath it. May I hold that? May I have that for just a moment? Yes. It looks like this >> and it was the one that said that the FY26 amount was funded or budgeted to cover the cost of the professional service that were over the state aid formula. At that time we were 32 points positions over formula. Subsequently recommendations and resulting board actions for of adding 23 positions to the county during either FY25 or 26 brought us to the 55.67 positions where we are currently over formula. So it says if no action to adjust staffing numbers are taken when vacancies arise or during this personnel season, it may appear that the increase represents only the an additional 1 uh1,129,747. However, it is important to keep in mind that the actual cost

034we were otherwise going to be incurring for the TW FY27 is 44,863,262. And if you'll look at the the numbers of um it was broken down, he was giving you the the charts so that you saw not just salaries but all the fixed charges. But that clarification is there. So that um we would rece that would be a decrease in the funding due to the increase in the funding that we would receive for next year's budget. Does everyone remember see that part of your agenda? That chart? Well, it it looks to me like whatever number we are over the formula minus the number that are funded by the levy, >> thank you, >> reaches us to a number that is the unfunded liability of this county. And I would submit to you that we have

035a limited ability to sustain an unfunded liability. >> I would agree. Hence our caution and requesting >> and and and that that may very well mean that we as a board and and you as administrators have tough decisions to make but unfortunately uh unfortunately that's where we're at. >> Mr. Mr. Taylor, without question that is where we are. Uh the the important thing to remember in that statement so we're all on the same page is that as Mrs. not just mentioned a few amendments ago we there are programs and Dr. Deckers referenced that that have enhanced I was looking for you to say the word enhanced what we do for our county and our students and at some point I think we have reached that point where we have to start saying we love all

036that we have but how long can we afford to sustain all of those things and so then we have to go that's why the intent of these directors going to different buildings as well and our we had a director's meeting for central ederal office as well and said we've all got to do some inward thinking about how we operate and the things we love to have and see where we might be able to tighten the belt >> without saying who you going to get rid of. That's never the goal. That's never the conversation. >> We have to go in a diff the different direction which is a more >> responsible way of looking at that. >> I agree and I go back to what Mr. Taylor just stated, but it brings to my mind when

037my daughter used to do gymnastics, the girls were getting a little bit wild and they weren't actually, this is going to be a little bit off off course, but it just it brought to my mind. >> We'll try. the girls just weren't concentrating enough and they were sloppy or you know whatever in their in their gymnastics moves and it was you know they came out brought it down they brought the hammer down and they said back to basics we're going clear back to basics we're going all the way down so what he stated is kind of where we probably need to start we go all the way down to the number that is just our own only only funded that's it whatever that number is Right. You you told us earlier just the funded, nothing

038over, nothing under, and we start from there. We And if we do see a need that we have to have something, then we then we add them back one by one before, you know, next year. But maybe that's what we need to do. I'm not I'm just saying that's an idea. We just go back to basics and we we we we see that here's our number where we going to place them all and then oh we're short we're short a teacher over here. Well then that's going to be one unfunded right or you know one over funding that we're going to have to we're going to have to add in. But I mean maybe that's what we need to do is just go back to basics and say this is where we start. I think

039>> I think that we're my opinion is this is my opinion where we start will be that just that funded amount. I don't think we'll stick there. I think we'll have to have some unfunded liability somewhere. >> Right. There's a difference between >> there's a difference between >> but we start at that unfounded and then we build we build we build back up to where where we need to be. >> Yeah. There's some number over and above what's funded by the formula and what's funded by the excess levy that our unassigned balance could cover. But we can't as a board use all of our unassigned balance for additional personnel or because there's part of that is there for emergencies. >> Indeed. I'm glad you said that because it's also we're not even start we haven't

040started talking about our obligations to keep our facilities up and running and unfortunately >> they don't usually wait. >> Yeah. >> And >> yeah, >> which was and just like the emergency experience we had this weekend. So those are the two I will say the two essential parts of that hard decision- making we were looking for. We were not looking for a specific number to clarify to reassure you Mrs. Gallow but we needed a sense of what your preference was so that we don't go the wrong direction and then come back and say no we didn't want you to do that at all we want you to do the opposite. But Mr. Mr. Taylor's point is well taken as well. We have two responsibilities to help try to balance it in first blush the numbers

041we just got from Mr. Dowy. We are not in deficit but at the same time we have to be very careful not to Mr. Doling excuse me we are we have to be cautious not to not to have all the money in one basket that's going to be just earmarked for one but not the other. we will find ourselves in a very uncomfortable place. >> I think financially. >> I know I've said it over the last couple years. I know Mrs. Gallow has said it over the last couple years that >> we've been very blessed with um the money that we've been able to manage in this county. >> And I want to say >> very blessed, but we knew there was going to come a day when we were not going to be able

042to continue I mean, we've said it. I've said it. Mrs. Gallow has said it is we've g we're going to have to be very careful. >> It's coming and asking for funding. We had the money to do that. We had the money to give, you know what I mean, to those um initiatives that they were asking for, but we said it amongst ourselves. There was going to come a day that was going to have to tighten the belt. Um and you know, we're staring down that venue right now. Actually, >> I' I'd like to say that uh to that point that this board has been very frugal and done wonderful things across the county. You'll remember that sometime last year I provided you a sheet of some 20 or 30 of projects that have been

043done just in the first two year and a half that we've been here together. everything from we started with a roof and lockers and gyms and >> right >> and a baseball field and not just us but we went together and made all that happen. Uh and you are to be congratulated for being good custodians of the public funds that are coming to us and as you just mentioned and I just said that it's kind of coming over the horizon. We've been anticipating it. Be careful because we still as I mentioned our buildings are not going to wait. We try to keep them up as much as possible. And likewise, uh there's unless someone is about to bring us bus loads of kids, our enrollment is not going to boost that quickly. We must uh

044based on our anticipated numbers that are coming at this point and and celebrate as we get some kids. You know, once in a while on our agendas, we have a student. They're just coming one at a time, but on occasion, they are coming to our county. We have that conversation every time about whether or not there's a problem. Why are they coming here? Are we okay with them? That's a positive to me. I know that it's a shock instead of a glass half full. It's a shot glass half full to me. At least there's one at a time we're getting. That's a positive sign. >> Well, as you said, as you just said, we've been blessed to be able to to put to maintain our facilities, buy new things for our facilities. You know, we've

045had that ability to do that. Now would be the time to be >> right. And I and I and I believe that there's been a lot of people noticed that we have been doing a lot of upkeep. >> And we we want nicer things. We always want nicer things and do that upkeep. >> But we've all been to counties where we've walked through their schools and we were we've looked around and we've went, "Wow." You know, our little county, we're doing pretty well. You know, we look at our facilities and we've got nice new shiny things. counties don't >> or their things falling apart and they don't have the money to put into it. If we need to we need to we need to watch that because we could very easily drift back into looking

046like that, right? Um and if we can steer that ship now to where we want to be able to maintain what we have and we want to be able to provide new things for our county, we we just got to be very careful right now. for the time we need to readress. >> The important thing as along this conversation too as Dr. Decker's just indicated earlier, it is I'll use the word essential again that we not it's not the person, it's the positions that we feel like we need to for instance the number she threw out about counselors etc. Do we like having the number of counselors we have in the county? without question code will give us a little different issue and so and I'm not earmarking counselors as the place to I'm just

047using as an example >> service announcement that is not what we are doing >> that is not what we're doing I was just using it as an example but other thing is we can't be using people the name of a person who happens to be in a given position uh our goal is not to have people feel uh endangered because their livelihood is being put on the line or we don't care about that. The important piece of this conversation is what we've had so far discussion wise about okay, how do we proceed? That's what we're hoping to figure out tonight collectively. We've never we it's been a long time since we've had to make these I mean tough decisions but >> we've enjoyed the growth. Let me say our county has enjoyed the growth not

048just with facilities but with the with the additional enhancements that have been brought by the different programs that serve the county without question. Well, it it looks to me like we should look at positions that are covered by the formula. And once we look at those positions that are covered by the formula, anything that's over and above the formula, we need to analyze very carefully and uh spread them around to the different schools as we may. But you know those those positions that are covered are safe positions I guess but the positions that are not covered by the formula or by the excess levy in some way we they're an unfunded liability and we need to look very carefully at how many of those we do fund. I I don't know if this I don't

049know if this plays into anything or if it even helps, but and I don't want to go looking at names, right? Or people. It's not my intention here. It's a strategy that I'm trying to think of. But have you took a have you have you actually looked at um attrition in the means or form of I mean, retirements we have going out that possibly um could help us there, too. >> So, we we have, as you know, the preferred deadline for announcing if they're going to retire by February 1st, >> March 1. My apologies. Um, but that's also something we're looking at. Um the paper I just passed out is something kind of a sim similar ilk and that is we have just uh vacated a specific position that according to code may be something

050that could be considered before we refill that. I'm not targeting any one. I'm just looking at the suggested >> there's no one >> it's vacant at this time. That paper we just passed around gives you the code that speaks to it. That was a question I was going to ask because you had mentioned earlier about just getting an idea of a direction and how to proceed and looking at positions that are currently vacant. Is that um something that because I know we've had this discussion before about different things and just help me here because I know sometimes you have to post or you can't you cannot but I mean like if we're in this kind of a position right now where we're looking at this is that something that we have the ability to do?

051>> Well until someone gets uh interviewed for that position you have the right that position based off of lack of enrollment and you could abolish that position. Uh or again that word I know no one likes that word but it's it's not it's not filling it at that time. Obviously it can be brought back at any time. We just would recreate it and fill it again. But yes, so that's the kind of the direction we're looking in and needing some guidance is if we have these vacant positions that come open and we put them on that agenda. um is that is that a direction you want us to go in because that doesn't impact um people. Right now we have a position that right no one in Taylor County um financially would be impacted. Obviously

052our school would be impacted by one less person working there but um so those are the types of um conversations we needed to have. >> Yes, >> I I agree with that. Um because that's kind of the mind that is that's the strategy I come from every day that if something is vacated you hold it. Now in this environment that's a little hard because if you have a teacher right the only thing I'm looking at you tell me if I'm thinking if this is correct. So if we have let's just you know we we have people um we're we're on our agendas all the time that resign or whatever. We want to those jobs the next day. I think we should start holding back on that. My opinion, y'all y'all all can tell me what

053you think we should start holding back those positions. If it's a teacher position, don't post it. But if we have um subs that we can go ahead and put in for the remainder of the year. So that way we h we have that position vacant that at the end of the year we're say, oh, okay, we held all these positions. We've got 25 positions that we need to make that we are vacant now that we need to make a decision on that would might help. We don't we don't start filling those positions at this point. If we is are subs able to be used for those types of purposes for the remainder of the year if we have teachers that resign. >> We have done that with other positions already. I know we have, but

054I'm wondering if that >> but your qu but your suggestion is in line with what we're thinking about it because uh as soon as you refill something you have that obligation then uh if you can make it work without filling that and then see how the dust settles and then add things back as you can that could be a more strategic way of looking at it. Similar to what you say with your self. >> Yeah. I mean I'm just going to give you an analogy. I've had a few staff leave this year. I had um same situation, right? We're having to watch everything. And I had two I had a staff well I had quite a few leave. Um and I and I said thought I was doing the most responsible thing was saying, "Okay,

055um I'm going to spread these duties out. I'm going to" And I I started assigning them to different people, spreading them out, but I wasn't how that was going to work, right? It's like, I need to monitor this to see how this is going to work. Um, why I might have a couple people that are overloaded, but I don't want to push to post. I don't want to push to back fill. I think my due diligence is seeing how I can do seeing how I can manage my staff at this point to get the job done. Those positions went into like a pot, right, with all these other positions around the business. someone grabbed it before I could even get my monitoring done. [laughter] So, that's kind of like what I'm thinking. Take a look

056at it, put them in a pot, right? And then, you know, maybe certain areas of the county we need to make sure are grabbing those vacant positions going into next year. Where is the most important place to put them? >> We definitely do that for Yeah. for So, we've gotten So far, we've only had two to answer your first question to this. We've only had notify us of retirement uh for next year. So those positions, for example, uh become known vacancies for the next school year. They're staying in that position the rest of this school year. So we cannot technically we cannot post those until all of personnel is done to see what happens with reduction in transfer and all of those things because those who get on our preferred recall would become automatic applicants

057for any jobs that we end up having to post. So we there would definitely but the position that we're referencing now is a position that if we are going to fill we would be filling it immediately. And so I I think the the response is um that Dr. Sawings has to decide if that is really something that we need to do or if he's going to pull that and then on the next board agenda add that as um the removal of that position at this time. And like you said at any time positions can be added back. We can only eliminate positions at certain times such as when they become vacant or during personnel season. We can add positions any day of the of the year at any time. But that's the thing I think

058it's really important to remember. We can only eliminate or reduce positions when someone leaves it and it becomes vacant or during this notification time of personnel season notifying them by April 1, they will not be renewed and then having it acted on by May 1st by the board. So that's the only time we can eliminate positions. So that's why a lot of counties eliminate a whole lot of positions during that time period and then like you said bring back what they end up needing back. but they've eliminated or transferred them or rifted them until that time period that's determined whether they need to bring them back or not because I will say this this is really a difficult process if you think through it. Um it's a it's really my worst it's worst part of

059my job but it really is a a big process because the person um the position that gets eliminated that does not mean it might not be that person that is put on trans or that's put on um the RIFF list because based off of seniority and certification and all kinds of things they might bump other people out of certain positions. So it's a trickle down effect across um every every area and so it's it's really a big once we know that how that looks. So but when we have vacant positions that doesn't impact it doesn't impact any of those people. So >> I'm going to ask an ugly question. not going to be a very popular question. A lot of people probably will not like me for it. Normally when we talk about the riff

060process, we're looking throughout the school system looking throughout the schools professional in the schools service in the schools. Are we going to take a hard look up here? >> We're looking at all areas. So like I said, we've already met with every uh director of every department and discussed the same thing like I just did with you all like this is where we are. This is the reality of where we are and we have to look at all areas and so yes we we are looking at all areas. Dr. Stallings is examining that. >> that's precisely when the question was asked what about central office earlier is indeed that's why we were providing that meeting with our directors. >> Yeah. Are we looking at the possibility of combining some positions? >> Yeah. Yes. Abs. A

061actually we are. So Mrs. Roberts and we've talked about that. Yeah. So there could be uh positions that we look at that I'm going to give a number. Maybe we have 10 of of one type of position that we could eliminate down to five. And so we we we could possibly look at doing some of those. I do believe what will end up happening as we are doing some things is we will have to recreate certain job descriptions and repost certain things uh to to refill in a different capacity but to help to help cover some of the services still reducing but we may have a position and a half and we decide we can do the work with half of a position so we would have to rewrite that job description to fit that

062kind of piece. So yes, we're looking at everything. There's No one has it's been discussed with every department, every director, every admin, every administrator as we've we've already met and talked to them. >> I think it's important to reiterate what Dr. Decker said a few minutes ago and that is a public service announcement. I just grabbed a term not attacking a a a job when I used the I don't even want to repeat it anymore. When I referred to a specific job, it was just merely I was grabbing something out there to make an example as an example, not make an example of that particular kind of job. >> Yeah, you made me shudder. >> I think it was you. >> I know. I'm like saying that. >> Anyway, >> again, so we I will

063say we are not making recommendations to them. We are just presenting the data to them. And like like you said, every school, every department runs a little bit differently. And so what they might need might look different in each location. And so we're getting feedback. We will we have not we will get feedback from them as their priorities of things that they think they can shift around to make things >> work to the best of their ability. Ultimately, it will be Dr. Stalling's decision to make the recommendation. Then >> what has Oh, go ahead. >> Have we looked at anything like radical Tell me what you're thinking. >> Like, okay, we have 10 kindergarten classes. We have 10 classrooms at Flemington. Bam. Flemington is every kindergarten in the county. >> Right. And then Wes Taylor

064is first and second grade and Anna Jarvis is third and fourth grade. And that way I get that there's some busing stuff and I get that there's some cross weird and it's about how far but like does that change any of our dynamics because if this class school has three third grade at 20 a piece that's eight more kids I can put in each room and this one has three with 22 a piece. I can mush that and lose a I mean not lose a classroom but combine those kids and give them a different social setting where they're already where they already know how to play with kids from other parts of the county because we dump them all into fifth grade and they all go and look at each other because they've never seen

065these kids. >> That's a great creative thinking or suggestion to be made but public service announcement. We are not now just >> we're not doing that. All kindergarten is not going to one location yet, if ever. >> I can't imagine the parents that have to go drive their um have their kid go from AJ >> district all the way to Flemington for prek and first grade. That will >> that would require consolidation of different things. So I think also think >> I get what you're thinking. So one thing I was think sitting here thinking in the real world just look at it this way because we all work our jobs are all in the real world right all of us a state can tell us this is where our funding level is but that funding

066level is not going to cover all the work I mean period we know it I mean it's g I mean I I want to ensure whatever we do that we don't have pockets of people. Now, I know in the school system most of the time you'll look at teachers, you'll look at principles, you'll look at they're overworked anyway, but even more overworked. I mean, funding level is not going to cover the work. It's just not. We're going to have issues that we need to cover. It's just going to happen. It's not going to cover it. >> Yeah. Yeah. I say again, we're blessed that we have the levy because that like Mr. Taylor said, the levy will help cover those additional because it's written to do that and that was the point is that the

067county was supportive of that. We would be over the formula. It's just we are now at a number that the levy cannot even support. So, we need to bring it down back into a level where we are able to cover that difference um with the levy. So, that's Mr. I would like as a board me just myself I'm not speaking for the other four but I think I would like for you to start by bringing me down back to the basics letting me take a good look at that picture of what you think the basics only funding staffing funded staffing level only what it looks like what that picture on paper looks like and then okay well we need more over here we need more over I think that's where I would like for you

068to start. That's that's the only advice I can give you at this point and bring that back to me. And I I'm just one board member. I want to know what they feel. But if you're asking for guidance tonight, that's the guidance I am providing, but I'm not the board. Um a puzzle piece. >> Do you I'm sorry. >> Do you have um two questions? Um, do you have a a number or estimate of how many positions that we currently have that are vacant that maybe are being filled in by a sub or are vacant? The other question, um, you had mentioned that you wanted the administrators to come back to you with information and suggestions and so forth. What is that timeline for them to get that information back to you? I have not

069given them a timeline yet as I knew we were going to be here. So I said I needed to um just presented them with data and said we that I would meet with Dr. Stallings after this meeting and we would outline that for them as to what that timeline would be so that um he can get because again this all takes time. So they give it to him, he makes a decision and then I have to start the process of how that looks to move people around and things around. So, I would say we're going to say by the beginning here in February, we're going to need that because I would then go out, this is just me. This is not I would hand deliver those letters to everyone and explain that face to face.

070I feel like that's the right thing to do. By by code, we're required to in certify mail that, which I'd also do that, but I feel like it's better for me to explain the process to them up front and and let them ask me questions and kind of go through that. So, I also have to have time to prepare all that to be able to set by April 1st to go and have those conversations with people. So, we're unofficially you're looking at a February one deadline from administrators so that you can by you can really start chunking through that so that you're doing what you need to do by no later than mid-Marchch to have it completed by April one. Yeah. So >> April 1 to April 30 is >> Yeah. So we will definitely

071have everything on a board agenda action taken by April 15th and then we that we have to allow people um hearings if they request a hearing by May 1st. So between that date and between April 15th whatever around that date is uh by the May 1st we would we would allow hearings for them to come in front of you to to do their hearing >> if requested. Oh, we're around eight vacancies that we have substitutes in right now that um the code said uh we used to have to post every posting um for something that didn't get filled and they changed that code this year that um I have I had to post twice at the beginning and then if I didn't get anyone I could leave a long-term sub in it um and then

072we kept posting and we never got something. So this once we saw these numbers come back we have held the posting on all of those right now. >> Sorry. So that code you're saying change. I think that was kind of the question I was asking earlier about >> Yes. >> our position and if we could hold those kind of things or if they needed posted. >> We can hold them if we have a long-term subplaced in them. Like so an open vacancy that's open and no one's in. I can't hold that. So, I have to unless we are taking action on it to not fill it. Um, but if if we we're still planning to fill it, I have to post it at least twice now and then if no one takes it, put a

073long-term sub in it. And then the superintendent has the right to repost that any time that he wants, but that meets the code requirement to have to do that. Um, but if we have, like, for example, we have an open vacancy right now that no one's in, we either have to take a board action not to continue to post that or um and put make the action on the board agenda or fill it with a with a substitute after two postings. But I can tell you we would have someone we have certified people applying and we wouldn't have the option. That's only if you don't have anyone certified applying for that. And in that particular instance once the interviews start we are locked into that decision process but we can change our minds on the

074process after application before interview. >> Yes. So before we take an action on that board agenda like that we're interviewing and making an action we can say due to lack of enrollment this position is no longer going to be filled at this time. Yeah, again I can come back anytime but at this time um personally I'd like to see what what this looks like as Mrs. Knots very eloquently put it back to basics. Um, there are pieces of this that make absolute sense to me in terms of what those people do and why you need that many of them. And then there are pieces that do not seem consistent um as you get to percentages. >> Yes. uh across our county. And I don't I don't know what goes into those positions on a day-to-day

075and why those percentages are so dramatically different. Um can you also just refresh for me professional and service personnel uh specifically when we get into ECATs and classroom aids? um and special education aids, which piece of that do they sit into and how does that play with where we need them to be? >> So, those are all service um staff. So, we have two types of um aids in Taylor County. We have ECAP, preK, three to four aids, and then we have special education aids. And so there's different levels of them obviously and what they do, but those are the two types of aids, but they're all um service. >> Okay. So the legislated additional classroom aid is a what kind of aid? >> Is an ECAT even at third grade? >> Yes, ma'am. >>

076Okay. Yeah, >> I'm noticing on this uh back to the enrollment predictions page, there's no numbers for prek. Uh >> we >> do we have an estimate or >> we typically assume that we're going to have similar prek numbers that we have to this past year because we won't know that until we do child bond and that's not happening until a little bit later in the um in the in the school year. So we do not have approximate numbers but like I said it's been fairly consistent uh around what n close between 90 and 100. >> Okay 100 to 110 has been consistent to our prek numbers. >> Yes sir. Well, that that seems to track for years as we're graduating some place between 105 and 125. Um, so >> but I will say you're

077correct on your Miss Garbanz that you'll notice that uh Graten High School has not really seen a decline in enrollment as dramatically as our other grade levels have because those those changes have happened more at the elementary level as kids entering there. So our high school numbers have stayed fairly consistent. Um there's a we're you know a few off there um from this year but they're about the same as they have been. So when we're talking about where our enrollment is shifting it is more toward we have fewer kids coming into us at the elementary level which eventually we'll get >> to GHS but it's not it hasn't impacted them as much yet. when we I'm sorry I interrupted, but um I get that this is about the funding formula, but I know that we

078start to look at all those places where we're supplementing and we're an extra for this and an extra for that and this is a um an extra duty contract and things like that. How do those numbers financially play into this and a level of sustainability? Um >> so the those are written into the excess leving. >> Okay. >> To cover, you know, cover those items that are listed there each year. Uh chess advisors, uh play things things of that nature. So all that is written in there. Uh and that's been consistent. Uh there's not been a an overage on that since I've been here. So >> Okay. So and and that covers our yearbook and our prom committee and um >> that is correct. >> All of those things. So and that's not in anything

079with these numbers, right? I just want to make sure that like >> Yep. Where do we need to make sure that we're going that we're equally applying a level of >> self-control? >> Yes. >> Um uh >> to these things. >> Absolutely. >> All right, Mr. Taylor, I interrupted you. So I guess but would that be a want or a need or since it's in the levy it's a >> it's there for you know for that so it covers all those contracts that we that have been put in place and the ones that were there that have been there in the past. So they've covered it's covered the the funding for those >> I think uh Mr. Dolan as well um and to Mrs. Gallow and others. It's not really a it's kind of back

080to what we like this this is helping this is we think a good service a good opportunity for our students etc. Um it's just that uh some point that even the levy funding I wanted to point out that the levy language includes that uh when certain funds aren't what the whatever is not used for the levy components those 13 are delineated in the levy that then those monies are available to do those additional percentage that goes to capital improvement which would be helping. And so if it's a if it gets down to this is really nice, but at this point because we're trying to be frugal, we don't necessarily need to sustain with that many. Again, I'm not using anything any topic. Uh that could uh that level of being frugal could also it's not

081like you're sending money away. You're just re realigning it so you have it at your >> at your ex disposal to address another unanticipated need. Yeah, >> Dr. Decker. >> Yes, sir. >> As confusing as this meeting has been so far, >> uh, and we've talked all around a lot of ideas, have we given you guidance that you're happy with or, uh, >> I'm not happy about any of it, but >> or or well, have we given you enough guidance or or is there something else we can do to help you? And what questions might you have for us? Yeah, I mean this is the guidance I I I think that we needed to get started. We were already starting with conversations. We knew this was going to be a difficult time and so it's

082not going to be easy. It's not going to be easy for anyone >> or any process of this is not going to be easy. Um so we just appreciate that. I I did not want to cause heartache for people if the board was not willing to support that um moving forward. if we thought well we're just what we're going to do this is I needed direction to know whether what which way to move and so I feel like yes that's what we were looking for I mean I'll be honest if we have the money to support those positions that were over the unfunded all the way up to 70 well then so be it then I want our school system to have those positions but if you're looking at me and the expert back there

083is looking at me and he's saying we're going to be in trouble if we continue down this road. I need you to go back to basics for me and then we'll start from there. >> Under no circumstances do I want this county to be a takeover county. >> Uh and if we don't >> Amen. >> if we don't make some tough decisions, we will be. And uh that has to weigh heavily on our minds. >> We are we are not immune to what's been going on across the state and across the entire country. We're not. I wish we were, but I think every public agency at this point, every public institution is in the same, but they have been in the last six, seven months. So, I just think it's all that more imperative that

084we have uh conversations with those in our legislature and at the state level. Um, Yeah, this formula is >> Oh, there's no comment. >> All right. I mean, I mean, it is important >> because it's important for them to know that the needs of the county, there's certain needs of our county eventually will trickle down. You know, we might be able to um what am I trying to say? protect or um I don't know what I'm what I'm trying to say there's a word I'm looking for but it's it's it's it's almost my bedtime. We might be able to protect you know some of the pockets in the county like the kids for a while. However, eventually it's going to trickle down to where it is definitely going to hurt our kids. Um, so you

085know, we need to let our people in our legislator know legislature know that this isn't working. >> I'm confident that there's no I'm confident that everyone in this room agrees with that that we have our go our goal is to do what we can to sustain what we're doing for our kids. >> Right. Absolutely. Um above this formula in these unfunded positions I know that we have legislated unfunded mandates you know like our friend the treasurer who we have to have and our friend the superintendent who we have to have um that are not covered in this formula beyond these two individually fine human beings, but also technically necessary positions. How many positions like that do we have that we need to just be like, oh, regardless of what we do, there's x number of

086bodies that we're still employing that we still have to cover from the get. >> I'm kind of looking at Jonathan to kind of put our heads together thinking of I mean, I'm thinking at least >> five right off the top of my head that I mean part of Jenny's um is not funded like attendance director like so there are certain ones of those things we can pull that and and get specifics for you that >> they're not funded but you have to have them so you you have to figure out a way to do those but we can get the specifics on this that would be great. >> Yeah. >> Just to because I I know that we're looking at things and everything's kind of fair game at this point. um at least in terms

087of exploring the idea, >> so I just wasn't sure I couldn't remember how many of those other friends we had. That's all I have to say. I said that's all I have to say. I don't have any other words tonight. It can be on I mean, you can make that recommendation on the next agenda. >> Okay. Does anybody have any additional questions, concerns, comments, gut-wrenching reactions, clutching of pearls that needs to be done? Okay, hearing none. And while my brain is absolutely moving in circles, uh we will move into the 2000 series minutes, policies, contracts, and agreements. Uh superintendent respectfully requests approval of the minutes from the special meeting January 13, 2026, and the regular meeting January 13, 2026. >> Move. Mrs. Knots moves. Mrs. Gallow seconds. Questions? All those in favor? I >> opposed.

088Motion passes. Um item 2208. The superintendent respectfully requests approval of a change order pertaining to the installation to installing additional awnings at Flemington Elementary as part of a renovation project in the amount of $6,33361. Um, this is added to an unanticipated surplus from the original grant in order to provide additional needed coverage of the student drop off pickup and faculty entrances funding sources of the SBA and capital improvement. Superintendent respectfully requests approval of item 2208 in the 2000 series. Moved. Mr. Taylor moves. Mrs. Not second. Questions? >> I you have a question or I got ahead of my >> All right. Hearing none, we have an open motion. All those in favor? I opposed. Motion passes. Uh 8,000 series board member comments and discussion. Does anybody have anything they want added or need additional information

089on for the next and or other upcoming meetings? I just want to make sure that the door at Flemington and the little teeny little room that the speech pathologist works out of upstairs was fixed after the scary situation that happened. Were you aware of that? >> Oh yes. >> Oh yeah. The code red >> Yeah. >> Did it get fixed? >> Yes. As I indicated, we sent out a a a message to the families as well. First of all, the staff responded appropriately and they assembled the students in a safe location without question. Wonderful idea. I'm glad they did it. Unfortunately, what prompted it was a premature or unanticipated uh surge that just kind of kicked it into into a red alert announcement. Um there was no danger. It just was the fluke of the

090particular system that is designed to make sure our kids know there is a danger and to have a red alert. And so we uh sent out a message with uh myself and Mrs. Dolan uh to reassure the families that should their parent their students come home and explain there was a a code read that uh indeed that was handled because >> Did you hear the rest of the story? thinking not I'm not sure but you please enlighten me. So what happened happened like you stated no one knew that there was going to be a code red announcement >> which is really the design that's the system that's supposed to do that >> right but usually if you're going to have a drill the teachers will know well it went off nobody was expecting it so

091they thought it was the real thing in the meantime the speech pathologist has a little closet room with a heavy door and went to shut it and lock it didn't a child in there at the time went to shut it and lock it. You know how they get caught on the door frame? It won't go all the way in. So, she slammed it. Kaboom. Didn't shut. Slammed it. Kaboom. >> Oh. >> Thought they were gunshots. >> Oh, no. I did not. >> So, there was a whole classroom of kids and a teacher that were >> quite frightened. I'm sure. >> Quite frightened. So, the door needs fixed. So, there's no big bangs. >> We'll certainly look into that. Thank you for bringing that to my attention. We will certainly look into that to see what

092door we're referencing and find out. >> I want to chuckle. Maybe we'll do that someday about that. >> No, that that that was not at >> It isn't funny to hear about, but >> no, it was not. >> I'm sure people upset. So, just get the door fixed. [laughter] >> Thank you for sharing that with me. Uh I I'd like to add uh an agenda item for the future for us to talk about policy for uh after school activities after an NT day. uh you know, if if if we have and and I I realize the superintendent is trying to be consistent and and I appreciate that, but if we have a a day that's uh cold in the morning and warms up later on in the day, uh we we might want to have

093policy that allows for continuation of those after school activities. But I I I'll I've added that here. But indeed, you had mentioned that once before and I think we were in the same on the same wavelength earlier that uh we need and Dr. Decker and I had already started a conversation about how to how to craft something that might be fulfilling that need. you. But and I know we have a policy on the books, but I can remember Miss Kathy Green making decisions outside of what was best based on something Mr. Taylor is describing is that like the superintendent has the ability to make further decisions. So maybe there needs to be something of that as of an aspect for that. that I believe that exists in some f in many fashions. But uh we

094I hear you and I'm sure that we can >> I I tried to look at our policy and >> as did I >> and try to find something >> that said something about snow days or n days or anything like that. I couldn't find it. So >> they are silent so far. I did the same search Mr. Taylor um an extensive search. I felt like I was going to read forever. But uh indeed there once in a while we stumble on something that is the about which our policy book is silent and seems to be the issue of the moment. >> There's some the code the code states the superintendent makes the decision of closing of schools. So the the we discuss what needs clarified that needs clarified out for everybody to know in advance

095that he could he has this is what traditionally will happen but then pending certain circumstances he will make that adjustment. >> Thank you. I think >> so we also we have a chart I'm sorry I didn't mean to cut you off Dr. Decker. We have a chart that reflects so that faculty know which kind of day who reports based on their contract etc. and we'll in in like mind we'll provide those kinds of clarifications. Um >> we're talking about after school activities, right, Mr. T? >> Okay. I was you're going Okay. >> But I I want I think there's something to be said for school days come first, right? Education of the students during the school day comes first. I think Mr. Taylor has a point that we need to really take a closer look

096at when we can have the activities because rescheduling especially basketball games that's crazy but I don't know I guess >> I was would just want to be very careful that we're we're not having a lot of snow days or n days or whatever closures but we're still having activities all the time. I think it's very important to keep our mind that hey >> sends the right message. You are right. Um, and we're also trying to be frugal when we call those days so that we are not causing ourselves to revisit our calendar for uh taking days back. >> Okay. I said I didn't have any more words, so I'm going I'm going to shut it up. >> Mrs. Knox, I've all known you long enough to know that that word supply is endless, my dear.

097And I do mean that with all the love. >> I All right. Does anybody else have anything for future discussion? All right, hearing none, we'll move into the 9,000 series future meetings the 27th here at 5:30 and at 6 o'clock. That's a calendar meeting and a regular meeting. That calendar meeting is open to the public and we are looking for your opinions. So, come on down and let us know what you think. February 10th, 6 o'clock at Flemington Elementary. February 24th, 6 o'clock here at the board office. March 10th, six o'clock here at the board office. March 17th, these are the adjusted dates. Yes. March 17th at 6 and 605 both here at the board office. >> At this point, I will entertain a motion to adjurnn. >> Moved. >> Mrs. Knots moves. Do I

098have a second? >> Second. >> Mr. Taylor seconds. All those in favor? >> I. Thank you so very much. We are adjourned at 7:28. >> Go home. Be warm. >> And

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