001are present. It is the practice of our board of education to begin our meeting with prayer and the pledge of allegiance. We invite you to bow your heads for prayer and stand to join us in the pledge if you so choose. This is not. Let's bow our heads. Lord, we respectfully ask for your guidance and wisdom as we proceed with the business before us. Keep us mindful of our purpose of providing a quality education for the students attending Taylor County Schools. Amen. Please join me in honoring our country's flag to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Dr. Stallings, do we have any adjustments or addendums to the agenda? Yes, Miss Garbin, we do. The
002first one, I would ask that you note the uh addendum that should have been waiting for you in your packet regarding the item 3213. for the most part. Please note that this is just a recent recipient uh receipt of information we have. So that's addressing the the uh envelope project for Flemington Elementary School. All of the funding has been received is re being received from the school building authority. So that is merely financially a flow through which is great news for us. uh financially uh that's a significant amount of money that was approved to complete that project to assure those services of uh capital improvement for that building. Thank you. Superintendent respectfully requests the approval of the agenda as Wait, I have a second thing to add. I'm so sorry. uh that actually a third,
003but the second thing is that would also make an adjustment to your eventual uh approval of the 3000 series hopefully and it would include 3233, excuse me, 3213 at the end instead of 3212. That's on your second or third page of your agenda. So all you're doing is inserting shifting from 3212 to 3213 for correctness sake. And the other is an adjustment merely inserting some some wording that was uh omitted and that is to the 4000 series. And there are two things I need to add. Uh the wording would be quote 2025-2026 final budget and quote salary and supplemental book unquote. That would go before the words vouchers payable. It's merely the wording that's needing to be on that particular line item. Those are the same things that have been advertised in the newspaper for
004this according to the law and requirements, the things you've been discussing for the SE several meetings. So, it's merely the wording addition. Thank you. Thank you. And that's all I have at this time now. All right. The superintendent respectfully requests approval of the agenda as amended. Motion moved. Mr. Daddy moves. Second. Mrs. Galla seconds. All those in favor? I. Motion passes. Moving us into the 1000 series information. Good. I was going to reference that we have uh Taylor County Middle School 7th grade students who are accepted into the Governor's STEM Institute. Mrs. Mrs. Roberts is going to be presenting that information for us. Be my pleasure. So, we are excited to announce that we have five seventh grade students that um applied and were selected for the West Virginia Governor's Institute this summer and they
005will be attending the um Governor's STEM Institute at WVU University. So, we're going to call the students up. Um, first of all, Mason [Applause] McCaulay. Um, Abigail [Applause] Estibas, Maya Johnson, Genevie Mahon, and Riley Knight. [Applause] We do have some of our seventh grade um students participating in a band concert at 6:30. So I imagine that's where some of those students are. So um can we get a round of applause for our seventh grade students? And then we also have a high school student that will be attending um the governor's school of tourism and that is Isabella Johnson. [Applause] What is I'm sorry. I'm sorry. What is it? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Isabella Jones, I apologize. Isabella Jones, is she here? No, I don't believe so. All right. Well, first off, say congratulations on your
006hard work and very proud that you're going to be representing Taylor County this summer. Seventh grade. Wow. That's pretty good accomplishment for you, for both of you, for all of the students. Um, so what are you most excited about participating in the Governor's STEM Institute? What do you think? Well, tell me tell me what you thought of uh the the work that you did to get there. What was the most fun for you? You don't know? Well, it had to be all the hard work, right? No. Did you work hard and study hard? Yeah. Well, I'm proud of you and I know the rest of the board is proud of you and just keep up the hard work because it'll it's going to show just like like it has in this accomplishment and this honor
007that you've received. I'm sure your parents are very proud of you and thank you the parents for supporting your kids and probably saying do your homework, study, all of that so they can accomplish what they have thus far. So, seventh grade, I'm sure we'll see you back here next year for something similar, right? So, keep up the hard work. We're proud of you. The whole board's proud of you. Take some cool pictures and bring them [Applause] back. You guys can sit down now and stop looking terrified. All right. Yeah. Scooch Medooch the band concerts or wherever else you need to go. That's totally cool. Um, and that brings us to the superintendent updates. Thanks, M. Garbin. Uh, and I did not call you Mrs. Gallow tonight. So, there you go. Uh, as you can see,
008the uh, bulleted information reflects the updated information regarding the new property that's becoming the transportation and maintenance departments. Dr. Decker and Mr. Martin, our architect, has been they have been hard at work looking at re uh renovations and adjustments that need to be done to ensure that those operations can be uh occupied there and operate from that location as soon as possible uh both inside and outside. There will be some structural changes that are doing they're minor but they'll be helping uh accommodate the uh sharing of that facility. Uh likewise the the arrangements for as we've been talking uh in adding the external fuel tanks for the plan is to have a dual uh pumping station so buses from two different directions can access those simultaneously. Ann Jarvis Elementary School, we were there. We just
009Dr. Decker and I actually walked the site today and uh every time we go we learn a little bit more. Um, one is that we are currently, it looks like everyone has told me, lots of people throughout the community continuously say, "It appears all you're doing is moving dirt from here to there and moving it back again after it rains." And indeed, I actually said that, too. And but we have been assured that all of that is preparatory and a lot of the the underworkings and drainage are that is for the most part in place. There will be some additional uh drain connections that will happen during the summer months once our staff and students and bus transportation doesn't have to access the main drive. That'll be imp impacted by that. Um in addition right
010now if you notice there's an awful lot of uh center portion of that that's being packed and packed again and that by regulation we had to remove the dirt. That's uh this is part of the process I learned about today. They had to remove the dirt that's unacceptable and replace it with dirt that's acceptable. And when they do that, you can only do it at 8 inch depths at a time. And uh so they're bringing in, I believe the number was about 150 uh trucks of dirt in through this next day or two. And you'll be seeing more uh rollers packing it down. And there's a gentleman with some kind of apparatus that he digs down and checks the condition so it's impacted correctly. Otherwise, there'll be cavities and that would be comp be a
011disaster later. So, that's what's happening right now. In case everyone's wondering why is they why is it they're just moving dirt, they actually are yes indeed moving dirt, but for the right reasons. Um, and we are making progress. Believe it or not, there is progress to be made and seen and noted um at the new Anarvis site. I also want to acknowledge we have a lot of members from the staff at Anaj Jarvis here tonight. So, I do want to insert this. I want to thank you for your help with accessing the additional parking area that's being made as it come as a part of the memorandum of understanding with the adjoining properties. um losing your front parking area was an adjustment you had to make, but it's my understanding it was done without much
012of an issue and I do appreciate that for the most part. I mean, I appreciate 100% but for the most part there has been no issue. Uh lastly, there are a number of bulleted things for all the other facilities such as Flemington Elementary School. Uh the approval of the SBA things that you just had as your addendum. West Taylor is uh we have the new canopy that's in in line for that has been approved and and is we're moving forward on that project. Um Taylor County Middle Schools uh their plans for paving of that lower parking lot that's in the offing is supposed to happen during the summer months. Grafton High School's contractor awarded the job of constructing the new restroom facilities has been working diligently to get all those pieces and parts and decisions
013made about what those pieces and parts would look like. That is moving forward. And in addition, camp toll is the other site that we often forget about talking. uh progress being made for the elimination of the abandoned that has already been made regarding there was if you'll all remember that as you enter the camp tolls gate remember we actually own the property before the gate to the left and for the longest time there was a p is a pond continuously there and there was a house sitting next to it that was deemed a while back as uninhabitable it has been raised and is no longer signage has been placed about no swimming in that pond. Uh I believe you can fish there, but they're encouraging no swimming. And uh lastly, uh you'll recall a conversation
014some time ago when we uh introduced Mr. Garrison, our current caretaker of the facilities that the uppermost cabin had prior to his arrival had a tree fall and damage the roof significantly. So it is uninhabitable. and he said his suggestion was that we would raise that, keep the concrete pad, and potentially add yet another pavilion on those grounds that could be used. Uh, but it was going to be far more expensive to just try to make that inhabitable. Uh, so that's the update for that. with the reminders and save the dates. Um, keep in mind that tomorrow, senior sermon at Grafton High School, 7 o'clock. Uh, we have a Memorial Day parade ceremonies on Sunday and the one after the parade. Um, please be reminded that the Memorial Day parade on Monday is starting, everything
015starts on Yates Avenue and the directions change this year. So, we're going from the high school to Walnut Walnut Street Cemetery, but through an extended route around uh through town, over front and back through Front Street up to Walnut Avenue, which is going to be an experience for people that are actually participating in the parade this year. A little bit longer, but it's going to be possible. I think we've done that once before in the past during the replacement of the something of that nature was done during the replacement of the main bridge by the post office. And lastly, and certainly not um any less important, it's the Grafton High School commencement which is on Tuesday also at 7. I'll ask that you arrive at the Mary Battle Studio no later than 6:30. So, we
016get lined up to do that. And also on Tuesday the 3rd of June, we have arranged to to do the evaluation for some guy that you're hearing from as we speak. That is what I have for this evening. Thank you for your time. All right. Um do we have any board member updates or committee meeting reports? I just wanted to make a um this is in regards to the updates from last week um that uh Dr. Solings gave us and I just thought it was um significant for TCMS for their improved scores uh for fifth grade for math went from uh and improved from 3% to 20%. And I just think that that is something that I wanted to just call out that that is uh really good. They they had overall improvements in all
017the grades. Um but that one was one that jumped out at me as well as uh seventh grade for reading went from 13% to 20%. And also um for West Taylor, their attendance this third quarter was 95 uh 95.66%. So, um you know, we as board members, Dr. Stallings gives us these um pieces of information. We do look over them and um I just wanted to call those out because I thought those were things that really stuck out to me and and uh wanted to commend everyone who had a part in that. I'm sure they'll appreciate hearing that. Thank you. Very good. That moves us into the 2000 series. Superintendent respectfully requests approval of the minutes for the regular meeting on May 13, 2025. Mrs. KN moves. Second. Mrs. Gallow seconds. All those in favor?
018I motion passes. Excuse me. Uh, we have several policies and codes in the first reading. Couple of policies and codes in the second reading. No action will be taken on those tonight unless there's conversation. Okay. Um and we also have a series of administrative guidelines, policies and codes are on the third reading which we will take action on this evening. Questions on anything in the not active categories? I do have a question on uh one of the ones in the second reading. or now actually well actually it's the one on the cell phone. It's in sec second reading 5136. Yes. 5136. Thank you. An adjustment. I'll speak to that before maybe it will answer your question, but we did make the adjustment based on the recommendation request to add the wording and backpacks. So, my
019question is on uh page two of that in regards to um third offense. So it reads, "Prohibiting an individual student from possessing any device devices. If previous misuse has been documented, if a student is prohibited from possessing electronic devices on school property, a conference shall be offered to the parent guardians um to the student discuss the reasoning for the pro prohibition." Prohibition. Thank you. I guess my question is if this is a third offense, this really isn't stating any kind of discipline. Um, and then it's saying prohibited. Well, we already know it's prohibited because they've already had a first and a second offense. Does that make sense? I just don't see where there's any what what is the discipline there? because then it's just saying that they shall so they're going to have a conference
020but well I think it the pro prohibition means that they would no longer be allowed to bring it to school. So should they have not even have it at this point by this first and second? Actually they it's returned to them first or second. Correct. Um according to what we had recommended that they there was an insistent that we still allow because you the board opted for allowing phones in schools at all. And so the way the expectation was uh right after right they received that but even prior to what what they do with it during the normal day they shouldn't have it at all other than having it stored. Um and so they the offense is that after we've given you two strikes the third strike is you you're not allowed to bring it
021to school. And the conversation with the parents is to explain to them that they've already seen you you're aware parents that we've done this now twice. The first day was just returning it to the student. The second was returning it with the experience of bringing dad or mom or guardian to get it. Yeah. And so that was the intent of that. Okay. So um where it has further on down it says further each school shall develop and publish protocols. Is this in their um student handbook? Is that where that is published? Receive that information. I just want to make sure that all of this information is to be provided to the parents as as a precursor to the beginning of the school year or the reminder each school year and included in their school handbooks
022and procedures. I just know we've had some questions in the past about cell phone use and seems some parents maybe weren't aware and I just want to make sure where is the location and making sure that they have that communication. So that's where it would be found. Right. Correct. That's what the expectation is. Yes, ma'am. Okay. Thank you. You're welcome. Any other questions on first or second readings? All right. Okay. That's on the second reading. Okay. All right. Um, superintendent respectfully requests approval of items 2308 through 2320 in the 2000 series. Mr. Taylor moves. Mrs. Not seconds. Any additional questions on third reading? All those in favor? I motion passes. result that the bylaws, policies printed and codified in the comprehensive document entitled bylaws and policies of the Taylor County Board of Education are hereby
023adopted and that all bylaws, policies hereto for adopted by the Taylor County Board are hereby rescended. Further be it resolved that in any event that in the event that any policy, part of policy or section of the bylaws is judged to be inconsistent with law, inoperative by a court of competent jurisdiction, or is invalidated by a policy or contract duly adopted by this board. the remaining bylaws, policies, and parts and policies remain in remain in full effect. I love legal ease. Okay, continuing on in the 2000 series, we have a number of agreements. Sorry, one agreement. Uh, superintendent superintendent respectfully requests approval of items 2321 in the 2000 series. moved. Mrs. Gallow moves. Mrs. Not second. Questions. All those in. Okay. All those in favor? I. Motion passes. Moving us into the 3000 series consent
024calendar. Instruction material adoption and purchase orders. some instate overnight travel and facility use. Not to mention the uh approval of the purchase order for the construction funded roof replacement and building renovations at Flemington Elementary in the addendum. Superintendent respectfully requests approval of items 3198 through 3213. Mrs. KN moves. Mr. Taylor seconds. Any questions? Have one. I have one too. I know we do a lot on the iPad. A lot of work that the the students do um throughout our all of our school system on the iPad. when we're using u when we're purchase orders of all the the instructional materials. Um well, these are for instructional materials. Um is are there any is there anything in here for students or these instructional materials? Excuse me. Student what? All of this list that we're using here.
025Thank you. everything on here from 3200. Sorry, I need glasses. 3200 clear through 3207. When we say instructional materials, are those for student use or is it for instruction? This is the readoption of the social this year was the social studies adoption year. So that's for the But what I'm asking, it's both. It's both. It's both. It's for the teacher and the student. Yes, ma'am. So, when we're purchasing items for the student such as what we are this evening or we're approving the purchase order, does every student get the materials or are we sharing materials? I want to make sure that if there are materials that we're purchasing that every student gets the material, not some are on the iPad and some are getting written unless there's unless there's an IEP or something that's different.
026But I mean I want to make sure that every student is getting whatever material is there because I can remember times where students shared books or students shared you know that's not I can assure you Mrs. Roberts is on top of all that and and by all means all the students will be provided the information and staff will be provided with resources they needed because I I mean I know a lot of it's being done on iPad now but I want to make sure that and I know every student has an iPad and I understand that. Yes, sir. But when we're purchasing materials I want to make sure that every student gets the hard copy of material that we're not sharing. I would agree. Okay. Okay. Okay. I I just had um just just a
027call out really um on item 3211 I know it says on the agenda that's Grafton High School but on the application for school use of property it does not indicate which facility is being used. So, it's just um something I wanted to make sure that we're including the what area on the application. Okay. Yeah, it's not on here. I believe that was that's where that came probably just an oversight, but I just want to make sure that right is that the agenda does delineate the field, the football field and the visitors locker rooms. So, that was through conversation once the application came in. And then I know we have new facilities there. So just want to make sure that the people using them have the understanding of what's expected of return of usage. Can't agree
028more. We have a lot of money invested in that new place. Okay. Well, I'm glad on the corrections to see that we caught those corrections before the trip. try. I worry about that. Okay. If there are no additional questions, we have a motion on the floor. All those in favor? I. Motion passes. Bringing us to the 4,000 series for the 202526 final budget, the salary and supplemental book, and the vouchers payable. Mr. Dolan, enlighten us. Do you want to turn? Make sure your mic's on. Mr. Yes, it is. Um I presented you uh the budget on April 29th. Um after that point, I was in the newspaper for comment or anybody to review. I received none and it's before you this evening in the same manner just to be approved so I can submit it
029to the state so the state board of education can approve it. We need an individual motion to accept the 202526 final budget. Move we accept the budget. I will second that. Any additional questions? All those in favor? I. Motion passed. Please to submit. our budget. Thank you very much. Um, in addition, you had uh your packet of vouchers payable. Those are the bills and uh invoices that needed to be paid uh between last week's meeting and this week's meeting. So, a couple pages there, some payroll items, and then like I said, just normal um invoices that we receive, you know, for items that we've purchased and services that we've purchased. This is a week. It's a week. You are busy people. Any questions on Rogers payable? Okay. And anything else you've got for us this
030evening? I have nothing else to add. Okay. Anybody else have any questions for Mr. Dolan? All right. Hearing none, the superintendent respectfully requests approval of items in the 4,000 series. Move. Mrs. Knots moves. Mrs. Gallow seconds. All those in favor? I I motion passes. Moving into the 5000 series. Um, student matters. Um, I'm apologize if I mispronounce this. Shauna Bass Bass has requesting permission for her homeschooled child to ride the bus from Grafson High School to United Technical Center for classes for the 2025 2026 school year. Superintendent respectfully requests approval of items 5560 in the 5,000 series. Move. Mrs. Gallow moves second. I have a question. Seconds and questions. Um, we're not aware. I'm just asking like I would for um any like even if we have transfers into our schools from other counties, I
031would ask the same question. I know Mrs. Gallow has asked the same question. We are unaware of any be there's no behavioral issues at all concerning that. writing. I'm aware of that. Any of our property? I'm not I'm aware of that. I would I wouldn't think so, but just have to make sure before I approve. Excellent question. I'm glad you're doing it. All right. Uh any additional questions? We have a motion on the floor. All those in favor? I I motion passes. Continuing in the 5000 series, we have some summer employment, some resignations, some substitutes, and leave of absence. Superintendent respectfully requests approval of items 5561 through 5568. Mr. Taylor moves. Second. Mrs. Gallow seconds. Any [Music] questions? All those in favor? I I motion passes. Bringing us to the 8000 series board member discussion
032and comment and a discussion regarding the dean of students position at Anna Jarvis Elementary concern do we have a presenter on that or we do not have a presenter we have um some folks I'm sure could answer a question if we felt like we needed So, I'm in favor of making sure that our schools have the staff and and needed positions to support all of our students. I want to ensure though that if there are needs, similar needs at our other schools in the county that we would support those schools as well with the same position. if we would support I mean one school I mean there might there might not be right there may be there may be um unique needs at Anna Jarvis that might not have the same needs at West Taylor
033or Flemington and I understand that. So I'm not saying go out and make sure we have the same position in all three schools if there's not a need. But I'd like to explore if we are going to support that extra position or you know carrying that position forward at Anna Jarvis. I want to make sure that if there is a similar need in other schools that were fair to the students and faculty and the other schools that we do the same for support. And I know this board has in the past but I just this is how I feel about feel about that. Um, at this point, I don't know how everybody else feels, but I always open my mouth first, I guess. Nothing wrong with that. And that we have the funding. I know
034that's an important aspect, too. If I remember correctly, this position was initially funded out of right ARPA or ESR for something. Um, yep. My I guess my question and my lack of clarity is um based on the number of students and the number of counselors that we sort of have across the board, is a counselor a better option or or a more feasibly hired option that will benefit us or is moving to the dean of students a the better option and feasibly hireable. The last thing I want to do is stand up here and be like, "Yes, let's do this." And then be like, "There's nobody in the Continental 48 who is willing to do this or can do this." Like, I don't I don't want to say no, but I also don't want to
035get behind something that doesn't have any steam. So, what what is the better option for those students for that school? Because I'm we're on the outside. We don't know. Sure. And I don't I don't know who answers that question best. I I think I understand what you're saying, making sure that we're using the appropriate resource to meet the need. Um, my other question is I I need to see more data like what data do we have in regards to um our scores for our student achievement kind of where are we at with that in comparison to the last couple years. Um the other thing is um I think that they mentioned when they were here before about um helping with administration to help relieve them because of some of the duties that they have. So
036I just I just need to know a little bit more about what what that data is like. How often is our administrators being pulled from the duties of an administrator to handle these other things um like IEPs or things that the dean of students would be doing? So I just have some clarifying questions in regards to supporting the data with that because like Mrs. Not said I want to make sure that you know the resources we have is equitable across our county, right? Because I mean, our duty is to make sure we're being financially responsible. So, I don't want to be lopsided in one school and not the other if they have a need as well. So, yeah. Yeah. And and I understand too, you might come back with the data and say that um
037Anna Jarvis is the one with the most need or the only need. Maybe West Taylor and Clement, they don't need the same support. I'm not sure. But after all, AJ is our largest elementary, right? Right. So, um they might they might need a little bit more support than the other two schools, but I want to make sure first before I I want to make sure. And do we have the the funding to to provide those positions across the county? I mean, if it's needed and it and again if it's if it's helping if it's helping then I think as a board we need to heavily consider um this position because after all we owe it we owe it to our students. We owe it to our administrators. Um that's what we're here to do, right?
038We're here to we're here to we're here to educate and give the positions approve the positions that's going to assist our faculty to provide the best opportunities and support to our kids. exact numbers. I wish I had that. It's a little more than uh not not quite 150 at 138 at Flemington. Yeah. 260 or so at West and then four, right? 480 we believe. Literally double. Yes, for sure. As a as a keep they're the largest and they may have unique they may have issues that maybe the other two schools don't have. So, you know, at the same time, we have, keep in mind, my some of my experience is going to be helpful with this conversation because having served you as your your uh federal programs director for so many years, we have certain
039things such as the commensurate services and eligibility for schools and those don't necessarily say the biggest gets the most. No. And so and so one of the things we have recently learned is the the uh placement with the data that we have uh has dictating that uh Flemington is the more needy of the schools and so it's going to be causing Mrs. Roberts to be rethinking some of those resources as well. So my recommendation will have to be based on data because we don't have a choice in some of those things. Um we do have uh a number of um bits of information that um in addition to that my recommendation uh I am not ready to make a recommendation to to continue to or to return um this is not going to be popular
040but I'm not ready to have that recommendation for you based on the fact that commensurate services that we now must address for the two schools um both being title one service schools Uh also we have uh we did ask for information. I met with the the principal and the assistant principal at some time early on when that first was posed to me uh requesting uh how that would either decrease or increase the uh assessment services and results. Um I I don't have a lot of information of that nature from them. So I was forced to go back to more data and the data that we have received with regard to performance levels. um unfortunately has not been uh as positive as we would like at that school. Um and it's not withholding to punish them.
041It's just that like I said the commensurate services are helping drive those decisions as well. Um we did have the dean until we that individual departed. Um, and of course it would be inappropriate for me to speak of that individual unless you do an executive session. Um, which may be also appropriate uh for personnel purposes. Even though she's not an employee any longer, it still would be inappropriate for us to discuss an individual's uh performance, benefit, or use. Um, however, okay, so how and maybe you need to tell me I can't talk. I'll be careful what I say. Thank you. But how would one employees performance impact a decision that this board makes moving forward with someone else in that position? I think we should be looking at whether that position is beneficial to the
042school as a whole. Our data does not show that there was a positive or negative impact with her or leaving us. Say that again. The data does not indicate there was a positive or negative impact on the school with her presence or her absence. So again, I got to be careful what I say. If you're indicating that there was a performance issue with the I don't know if you are but if you if you are my mind goes to there wouldn't be an impact. I'll have to stop talking about that. There wouldn't be one. There wouldn't be a negative or positive if there was a performance issue. I don't think that's what he's trying to say. Okay. Yeah. All right. But we couldn't talk about that anyway if that's what he was trying to There's
043been multiple reports of different things. Again, some of that would have to be discussed in executive sessions. Uh, one thing that comes to my mind in my experience, if you want to know something, whether something is best for a school, you ask the folks that are in the trenches. And it seems to me that there are a few people over to my right that are in the trenches that are in favor of this. Uh and I think they have reasons to to be in favor of it. I would say that every school would be asking for more whether it's appropriate or not. So it's it it's not a popular thing for you to hear me say, but want versus need based on what we're being seen with the data as well. I'm not prepared to
044make that recommendation tonight. I think there's a felt need on the part of the faculty at Anna Jarvis. It is clear and I will not be popular when I stand and say I'm not prepared to do that for them tonight. All right. But you're not prepared tonight. Maybe you just have some more consideration and thinking and data to look at like Mrs. Galler said and then you then you might be ready to make there's always a possibility that my my decision will change but tonight it is not ready to make that recommendation. So you're not saying no. Never say no. Never say yes. I'm just saying not now. Are you going to bring it back to us? When I feel that when I feel it's appropriate that we need to make that res recommendation, I
045will always bring that to your attention. And then I remember just a few years ago we were we were giving AJ um we were providing Anna Jarvis particular positions to assist them with a lot of issues um academic and behavioral and otherwise. How has that changed in just a few years that they don't need that support now or that you're not seeing that they need that support now? I mean, because I know that there's been those I know that there's been that need before. Yeah. So, I remember what you're saying, but I think before I think we were having difficulty finding qualified candidates for and I could be wrong, but I feel like it was the behavior interventionist or something. So, We approved we did three different positions to try to get them additional resources
046and I think I think that was the avenue that we went at that time. Um I'll remind you that we you I'll remind you that you have already approved the addition of an SRO for the building. Yeah, I remember. But wouldn't the Dina students also unfortunately take some of that? I mean I have to advocate That's apples to oranges. That's not going to that's not going to they can't do the same job. We don't know that that would help with we don't know that it won't improve it. We they can't they can't do what what the DM students could do. They're not they're not equipped. They're not trained. They're not educated to do that. Not saying they're not educated. They're not educated to do that. So what Dr. Close to an executive session discussion? That's
047just I mean I was presented with data that showed the need. I mean I'm pretty sure the other four were as well, but I I if I don't know what else to say. So I I hear you that you're ready to approve that once I make the recommendation, but it stops with my recommendation. I'm not ready to do that. Okay. So would it be something that um like Mrs. Garvin was saying earlier maybe when you take a look at it and all the data and requests and things like that would it possibly would you look at maybe a different type of position then if it's not like Adena students then possibly depending on need. Okay. I am curious because again this is outside my wheelhouse with the legislative changes that were made about when and
048how and who can remove a I'm going to use the words wrong words um but a disruptive andor dangerous student from the classroom. Do we anticipate that having needing or having another body there to help deal with that student, to help deescalate that? Um whereas, you know, an SRO could probably stand in the doorway and be like, "Okay, nobody else set anything on fire." Um or I mean, like, I don't I don't know how you do that. I have a seven-year-old that I have trouble deescalating on my own. I can't imagine a room full of There's language in the code that speaks to what the expectations are to happen next. Um, including uh actions that are to be taken by both the classroom teacher as well as the resources that are available already. Okay. I
049just with that additional piece, I just want to make sure that we're considering all of the ways that we can support and we have the other school of the all five will be there. You have two more on the offing that are on the agenda for the next meeting. Right. Okay. So, but we have we have those vacancies. I mean, they're going to be we're going to have is what you're saying? We have been assured that by entering into a memorandum of understanding with those both the sheriff's department and the police department and the sheriff and chief of police, we'll have one per school, but it hasn't been approved. Has it's in the agenda. I just theou is on the agenda for the June meeting. Another concern is just that we went 10 months at
050Middle School without one. So they have one all you already approved that one in your last agenda. When I talked to when I talked to Coleman yesterday, he he plans to have that person ready June 2nd and they're he's going to pull to meet with the administration. That's what he he stated to me yesterday. We've been working on that for a while. We do have that now ready to so that no one school will go without it. Also, I think you're going to be a little bit irritated with me next, but I'd like to see at the next meeting this put back on the agenda, and I would like to see your pro and con list for this position, what you feel instead of I'm not I mean, I don't I I I'm not saying
051there's anything wrong with you as a superintendent. saying that you're not ready, but I want to see why. I want to see your I want to see more into your mind of and understand more into your mind of your pros and your cons. And from what I'm gathering, unless I'm wrong, unless I'm reading something into this that's not there, you have more cons on your list about the position than pros. I'm not in a position of repeat or sharing some of those issues. I can't. No, no, no. about not about a person about continuing the position, not about a person, just what what what would you say about how do you feel about continuing on with the position and funding it versus not what are your thoughts instead of I'm just not ready. I want
052to see more into your mind of why you're thinking what you're thinking and why. Okay. Does that make sense? Sure. And then maybe that'll bring me to the where maybe you you are or not. I don't know. I just think this is important enough not just for our staff but to alleviate some of the issues that our faculty has has told us. It's important enough for us to really take a close look at it. I I hear you because I feel it's important that they provided us with the request. Um I think we've requested some additional information and I think it's important um you know that our superintendent has that time to do a full evaluation of the request. Yeah. Thank you. As I mentioned, we just received some information as recently as before the
053board meeting that helped caution me about where we were thinking. Um, it's not a popular thing, but it's way you pay me to make decisions and recommendations, and that's my job. So, I'm trying to fulfill that job. An equally ugly question. Um, how much does this position cost and what does that do to our budget? Right. It's it's based off the salary schedule. It depends on years of service and okay I mean I guess where does this sit in this salary schedule? Is the question can we afford it? it. Oh, well like service personnel have a salary schedule. Teachers have a salary professional. There's an administrator. It's a teacher. It's a teacher pay scale. A teacher's pay scale. Okay. Based off based off their degree level and years of service and Okay. Yeah. Like I
054just Yeah. So I you know with overhead like at least 65,000. Yeah. So 65,000 versus 85,000 versus 105, right? You know that that's Yeah. And like I said, it just depends on you could have somebody that applies for the job that meets the criteria that's set forth by you all and they could have a doctorate degree in 30 years and you know that's going to be different than a first year teacher. So, I said it's it is varies anywhere from 40 $45,000 to I feel like I mean I could be wrong, but I feel like this is not a place you put a first year teacher. No, I'm just giving you that I was just giving you that range there. know that, you know, like I said, whatever how whatever criteria is set. But I
055mean, I said if like I've just if if that's where we're at, then I'm going to start at the mid-range and work up just sort of for where I know. Um but that would be adding that and is that something that our budget can support? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I have another because I know we're already over puts us another over but it wasn't the it wasn't what can we afford to pay someone that has nothing to do with it. No, to me I wasn't using my It's not how much can we afford it. It's about how much will it cost to invest in this piece, right? Um not oh, we only have $25. We can't buy the deluxe. You know, it's about are we looking at investing 65,000? Are we looking at investing 105,000? Like
056Sorry, I used the wrong word when I started that. Invest, not cost. So, I have a question. Um, the stipened that we just approved, I believe it was last week for the facilitator counselor, would that be of any benefit here with this request or could potentially assist with that? Um is it taking the edge off of the responsibilities for each of them? That's that co facilitator coordinator person just just not during the day though because that's extracurricular. So that would have to be outside of the contract time. So outside of the 200 days or after school hours so that it would it would be able to pick up extra duties that they would need but it would be not during that time period. Okay. Yeah, I forgot about that. Okay. I was trying. Yeah. Like
057there was paperwork or things that needed to be done like that. And again, I'm just asking questions and throwing things out. Is there don't laugh at me because I really don't know. But is there a potential you you had mentioned Flemington's need. Is there a potential to have a dean of students that splits time or is that not an option? I don't know that that would be a service there either. Okay. Just throwing out ideas. No. Norwest in case you're wondering. I'll save you the question. I don't think I'm I'm just not ready to recommend that. Takes the recommendation, Mr. Taylor. Do we have anything else we would like to discuss on this topic this evening? Could I make a request for the next meeting? Uh could you give us uh an update on the
058guidelines the state is giving us with vaccination policy and where we are with that. Please. Yes, we can certainly do that because it does seem to change each day or it did for a while. Yeah. And I get it and I get that we are obliged to follow the state superintendent's guidelines, but I I would like to get some updates on what the situation is as best we can. Certainly. And she's been working handinand with the governor. It's my understand. No comment. if we could also somehow get a a better understanding of whatever the additional supports Flemington potentially wants or needs once we have now that I hear about it I'm needing to to explore that as well. Right. I just I I know that we're in a position where we have lots of needs
059across the county and we're in a I just want to make sure we understand all of them um and sort of get a better feel for why we're doing what we're doing. Thank you, sir. Agreed. Any additional comments or discussion for the 8000 series? Anything else for future agendas? All right. If I have something, I will email you. Okay. Because I might have something. Okay. I know we had um a recent creation of the weapons detection positions. Um is that something that we may see here for the next school year? Yes. the the the position closes tonight. This position is closed tonight at midnight and so the recommendation should appear on your next agenda for all the jobs of that are posted right now. So they close tonight at midnight and then they'll work through
060interviewing and they'll work through all of those pieces and then those recommendations will be put on. Okay. That moves us into the 9,000 series. Future meetings, uh, June 3rd, special meeting, superintendent evaluation here at 6 o'clock at the board office. June 10th, 6:00 here at the board office. June 24th, 6 o'clock here at the board office. Motion to adjurnn. Mr. Daddy moves. Second. Mrs. Taylor, Mrs. KN seconds. All those in favor? I. And we are adjourned at 701. Thank you all for what you do.