001e e e welcome to the Jordan Board of Education study session today is Tuesday February 25th um and we appreciate those of you who are listening from home or are present today uh I am Nikki George the Jordan School board president president and present with me tonight at this meeting are all members of our school board Brian Barnett briy stford Aaron Barrow darl Robinson Suzanne wood and Lisa Dean as well as our superintendent Dr Anthony Godfrey um our associate superintendent Dr Mike Anderson and our business administrator Mr John Larson uh we will go ahead and open with agenda item a a legislative review with Miss Suzanne wood and Dr Anderson uh before Dr Anderson gives us a highlevel overview of um the bills I do just want to highlight the event that we had last
002week with the student body officers in the district uh who got to be on the floor with some of our legislators and um it was an it was a wonderful experience to witness the process firsthand and to feel the excitement of our students to take part in in that process I think they had a new sense of possibility whether for themselves or for contacting our legislators so thank you Dr Anderson for coordinating that I'll let you take it from there thank you yeah it was a great day it's I've often said it's is my favorite day up on the hill um and yeah in in this photo this is of course the house and if you were we were seated up in the gallery right above the middle section or off to the left there
003uh watching our students on the floor it was a great day here's some photos um our student body uh presidents from each of our schools we had each of the Comprehensive High Schools as well as Valley South Valley um this this uh student is representing our Kings Peak High School our virtual schools so it's great um we SE not seated in the gallery was board member wood who happened to be on the floor Fu you yeah it was what a great experience and uh you know this is representative Ashley Matthews and this is her baby who was just featured recently in a in a newspaper article yeah he's quite the star up there and so you know it was great uh several of our students we tried we tried to match uh our reps up
004with the the schools that they most of their area falls into that worked out great in most cases and uh representative Miller actually gave she asked for personal privilege and asked for everybody to be uh recognized the speaker gave some nice remarks to our students they looked great sitting on the the the floor of the house uh in their in their officer uniforms or their sweaters at least and it was just a great experience all the way around so thank you to the board for sponsoring that and and helping us that we had some good conversations with lawmakers as well and if nothing else they they represented Jordan I thought very very well up there as they always do it's good stuff well to begin this Rodeo I thought we'd talk about a rodeo Bill
005High School Rodeo in particular I like to highlight a few bills it maybe just out of the ordinary a little bit uh sp sp 237 is a bill that codifies or puts into law um what what a valid excuse means and right now in the law valid excuses an illness um whether mental or physical it can be a valid excuse can be uh for a family death a school approved activity and absence permitted by a school's uh a student's IEP or 504 s237 would add one more valid excuse to that list of of pretty important reasons to miss school and that would be for a high school rodeo participation so it would actually codify that I do believe it's on the fast track to pass so um one unique aspect of Utah's valid excuse law
006is that among others including a family death uh participation in a high school rodeo so believe you got through that without a single pen well you know it does Buck the system a little bit but look this is not his first rodeo he is I sound correct and there we go sorry couldn't help myself um next bill um which just an update on the collective bargaining Bill we've talked about HP 267 in the past this bill was passed by both the house and the Senate and was signed um last week by the governor the last time we met that that was uh not quite passed and certainly not signed so that bill is now law and of course that's the bill that uh prohibits collective bargaining among Public Employee groups Mike yes can you give
007us just a quick overview of how that affects us maybe as a board and as a district yeah um maybe a couple of good clarifications along with with uh hb26 7 it does prohibit collective bargaining but it does not prohibit employees from being a member of a a Public Employee Association such as the UT Educators Association um it doesn't prohibit that it doesn't take away benefits or anything like that um this would just and it doesn't prohibit School boards from still entering into conversations and and meeting with them it just formal collective bargaining Agreements are no longer allowed under this law there any other questions or anything that does that help answer well generally you know I've been on the board for two years and I've gone through two cycles and I I haven't ever
008personally participated in a collective bargaining or a negotiation type of a meeting um those happened in the springtime where we talk with the Jordan Education Association about funds that we've received and how they would like to see them and just changes in salaries and insurance and are you saying we're not going to have those meetings anymore or or staff isn't going to have those meetings anymore this bill does not prohibit meeting with associations or other employee groups what it does prohibit is the actual formal Collective Bing where they have they must have a seat at the table in order to uh to negotiate for go ahead no go ahead I was just going to say one other common misnomer with this bill is that um there was some concern that if you were part of
009an employee Association such as the UEA or Jaa that you could not participate in URS that is not not the case employees that are part of those associations may still um participate in the Utah Retirement System it would be the executive officers of those organizations who are not public employees that cannot participate in URS if that makes sense so we have actually gone through a formal ratification process with JEA every year so they put the proposal out to their members for vote the thing comes back and they let us know that it was ratified or not ratified and so there's a formal process beyond the negotiation once we get to the tenative negotiated agreement then that has been sent out through that ratification process and that process would be eliminated okay yeah that makes sense
010doesn't mean we can't seek their feedback and get their in input it just means we don't there's no dual approval yeah and that takes place when when does that start the bill takes effect of May 7th of this year yeah we have collected bargaining done usually before that point so so for this year business as usual it it would depend on when we can May 7th is when anything that's agreed to by May 7th goes into effect so there's negoti the regular negotiation process can continue through May 7th great great clarifications thank you um we have a slew of of economic um bills that would impact us fiscally um we've talked about a couple of these before but we do have some updates let's start with s sp37 might as well go in numeric order
011as even though it's not up there is there um sb37 it basically moves the locally raised property tax dollars from the education fund to the state's general fund where it can be spent on virtually anything at that point not just education um to put it plainly uh this is basically what lawmakers were attempting to accomplish when they proposed amendment a this gives them the same type of flexibility and so um on your tax notice for anyone watching listening on YouTube um right now says Utah Basic School tax rate in Salt Lake County other counties it actually lists the school district and then gives the P the tax rate but it is a tax imposed mandated by the legislature um and is a tax imposed on property this would change um the distribution to school districts
012from the property tax which is garnered once a year to a monthly installment out of the income tax there are some concerns with that because um not only the the notice making it sound like it's going to schools when this gives the flexibility to divert at other places but also um moving it from a very stable or most stable um it can be argued that this is the most stable um tax fund the property tax for to probably our least stable or most volatile uh tax source which is income tax if you lose your job you're paying zero income tax whereas property tax still applies so um oops I don't know what happened there so yeah that's that's sb37 um we've voiced concerns with that school boards Association has put out calls to action on
013that bill s SP 102 is that we can no longer do truth and Taxation to raise the property no no this is a different this is the state basic Levy it does not affect local board's abilities to raise um property taxes through truth and Taxation at all this is just the this is levied throughout the entire State and then there are other levies that the board can either decide on themselves or ask the voters to uh to weigh in on and we can actually there's a bill that pertains to both of those coming up as well anything else John you would boss here is New Growth we would lose all of the property taxes for new construction which currently we're receiving technically technically other than that it should be a pass through we should get
014the same amount but the loss here is we lose all new growth and in a district that's growing that's a big loss it I want to clarify this bill really just changes the buckets that the property taxes flow into it's the same mechanism we should receive the same distributions it's just it's coming out instead of coming into the education bucket this s sp37 makes it going into a general fund we though however get a a monthly distribution out of the income tax fund and the mechanisms the formulas for funing are still the same so you should not see any in theory you should not see anything um changed out of how we get funded the the fear is of course the the bucket from which it's coming now is less stable more volatile and but
015the the mechanism and the formulas are still the same did I say that right John I please so the uh one of the changes it does make is that we used to receive property tax funds as property tax were paid through the county treasure that's no longer the case with this bill instead property taxes would go to the county treasure that which will then go to the state the state will then wait 35 days to send us money so there is a loss of um interest earnings there and on property tax that that can be substantial yeah um but it it opens the door and I'm just going to use a a maybe a a what do you I can't even think of the word anymore but I'm going to give you an analogy or
016an example here to illustrate the point if they wanted to double the basic Levy because the legislature sets the basic Levy and they mandate you must pass it as a school board you must pass it and so if the legislature doubles it you have to pass it and that money now goes to the general fund where they can use it for anything they want and yet for the public they're thinking what did that school board do that's the piece that's a little non-transparent to me I I kind of wish it were relabeled state Social Services Levy or something a little more transparent if that's what they want to do but we have approached to sponsor the bill about that concern that's a lack of transparency u based on that Parable from The Book of John
017there it was uh it was s sp37 really is problematic about transparency it's still going to say Utah School basic tax rate and we would much rather say something different because that's that's the most uh I guess honest way to approach it because there's still going to be money given to schools it's just not through this mechanism so as I spoke to several legislators about this most it just seemed like an understanding among them that this is a way of getting the flexibility that they did not get when their amendments didn't pass yeah that's this is and I'm just going to say it directly that they understand that they're comfortable with that this was their response that is that is a correct summary ask what the status of this bill is like has it been
018heard in committee and pass the Senate it's done it has not been signed I don't think as of yet but it's been sign thousand and with with pretty broad support regardless of the call to action yeah s sp102 is is one that initially was very um concerning to us because it it designated certain programs for review and would roll them into what we call the flexible allocation which historically has been very um unreliable in terms of long-term funding sources because things that have been been rolled up into the flexible allocation well it's nice to have that flexibility have then been taken out um in subsequent years and so that was a concern to us the review of each program you know um is also set to take place and then the most concerning part of
019the of the bill was a repeal of a section in the in the law that pertained to professional staff weighted pupil units which for us is about $20.5 million and this is money that goes directly to teacher salaries to reward and compensate them for um education Beyond um and and training beyond their um initial degree and so that Beyond a bachelor's degree I should say that this law sb102 um still maintains the review of the programs that we've described in the past such as concurrent enrollment and um tssp and and digital teaching and learning and so forth but it does no longer include that section for for professional staff it's taken that repeal portion out that seems like good news until sorry to be the barar of bad news you realize that theyve just shifted
020out of sb102 and made it a committee recommendation to go to Executive Appropriations so basically they just said well rather than running it at a bill we're going to the recommendation now is from public at Appropriations to Executive Appropriations so we they're still proposing the elimination yeah yep there's no bill attached to it um as of yet there it's just just a recommendation to repeal that and it does the same thing just not in this bill so it's a long way of saying sb102 is no longer as as of Greater concern to us but the concern still exists because it's been um an a committee recommendation to eliminate it if that makes sense um I think the other uh Bill SB SB 321 um this one John do you want to speak to the just
021the highlights of 321 and what it does with the voted in board leeway this gives us or is that it's h 110 31 no 321 is the yeah uh three sp sp 321 takes the guarantee rates the the minimums that school boards must Levy in order to get some the minimum State funding uh there's a piece of that currently that is the voted Levy and a piece that is the board Levy and it combines those to make one combined uh minimum uh the benefit there is that if one goes low it could be made up from the other one just fine um it also takes the five-year look back provision that was in statute and changes it to onee so with a one-year look back that would uh necessitate if you will uh boards to
022remediate their tax levy raise taxes within the year uh because that's all you would have now it used to be five years that a school board could look at raising that Levy and it would say no now you have to do it within one year to meet the state required minimums to receive state funding this state funding by the way is the one that we talk about you may have heard the uh phrase Equity pupil unit this is the equity funding so the poor school districts um of which Jordan School District is one uh can have somewhat similar funding or more funding um to raise them up in comparison with the wealthier school districts they have more uh property tax base per student um that's why this is an important piece uh as it as
023it applies to the board though what the main difference here would be that um if we were ever to have our tax rate fall uh you'd have to raise it that next year I think it's safe to say that out of the four bills I've got listed up there pertaining to school uh Finance this one is the brightest uh spot in the in the constellation of those bills yeah fa to say this this one's not U it's not all bad it's not all good but it's uh it does that we do stand a benefit for that because of our Equalization status and and you know low low tax yield High student growth um so that takes us to HB 110 which is is of a concern as well because this one would freeze the growth
024that is associated with the tssa funding the tssa funding remains to be clear it it will still get distributions for the teacher and student success act but it's no longer tied to a growth mechanism to increase it each year which is of a concern so that's that's potential um growth money that we will no longer receive if this bill were to pass the GU it's um do you have the status on that I can't pull it up because I'm I'm casting from it I had uh it has p p the house and is on to the Senate right now yeah it was 58 to 10 in the house so okay any other questions on the school Finance bills there are several these are the the four ones the four bills that we've been monitoring uh
025school fees I gave an update on this last time this is uh it's onto the Senate now uh school fees of course uh with this bill it does give a new definition for extracurricular activities students must have at least one uh fee free option for a graduation pathway uh at each of the high schools that would be beginning next school year not not this fall but next year we would have to have that option in place for students and there's there are no fees for those core curricular classes as well as textbooks other common educational expenses supplies Etc but you may charge fees for um certain courses related to programs such as field trips musical instrument rentals you can CH uh charge for post High School uh classes such as AP uh International back glat
026and concurrent classes you can charge fees for extracurricular activities and you can charge fees for driver head whereas before um if you remember the previous fee Bill prohibited us from doing that we were looking at a major deficit so that definitely helps offset the deficit but to be clear there are no more core curricular or registration fees allowed and so that that does leave us um with a gap there to make up with this bill question about that school lch is a fee it seems that to me and um there was Bill least talk about a bill expanding there were a couple of a couple of bills U Senator esima had a bill that would allow every student to receive free lunch uh the fiscal note on that as you can imagine was fairly high
027and that received no traction whatsoever HB 100 is a bill from representative Clans Fe that also addresses um school lunch but HB 100 only pertains to those students who are already receiving a reduced rate free uh the free and reduced lunch we we call it free and reduced because there's two tiers there free lunch and then there's reduced lunch depending on where you fall on the income eligibility scale so representative clany would take everybody on that reduced um formula and make them free so right now those reduced lunches I believe Scott you can maybe weigh in I think it's 40 cents for our reduced lunch price 40 cents per student it would take that 40 cents and the state would subsidize it so it is not Universal free lunch it would only take those that
028are on reduced lunch and make them free and it's a significantly smaller fiscal note because we're only dealing with that sector of students on the reduced does that make sense 40,000 students right Statewide yeah yeah and at 40 cents per per pop so it's a lower note than whereas uh Senator esim is would have allowed free lunch for every student in the state that getting traction it is yeah I'm not sure this status and I could look at it but uh it was it was a it's been a popular bill I think they sent it back for some tweaking um but I think it's on on track to it's it's promising in terms of its past would that then eliminate reduced lunch or would they up that and kind of let yeah it would eliminate
029it wouldn't eliminate reduced lunch because free and reduced lunch is a federally subsidized program it would just what it does is it infuses the state would then step in and supplement the 40 cents and and take it to free for the students so for all intents and purposes for students sake it does reduce or does eliminate the reduced lunch but it's still Federal program and so there is that that that separation does that does that help that make sense yeah I was just curious if they would then allow the students who didn't quite qualify for reduced lunch to then qualify for a reduced lunch this bill doesn't address that it just uses the qualifiers for the federal programs to everybody that if you if you qualify for a reduced lunch in the federal program it
030becomes free because the state subsidizes the rest yeah great questions that's an important clarification there's been a lot of confusion about that bill so okay so yeah um school fees that's the update there hb77 pertains to school or flags that can be flown in the classroom this bill um allows government entities and public schools to fly only certain Flags Okay and it um some clarifications have been made you can still wear flags that are lapel pins of any kind it's just actual Flags um as this as described in the bill that can be flown in the classroom and the United States flag the Utah State Flag flags of other countries states political subdivisions there's um military flags and P Mia Flags College University Flags there's a list of what you can fly in terms of
031flags it does not pertain to posters or other banners or other things like that it's just the flag itself so is it only in the classroom or is it in the school building does it it's it's flags on government property okay so as Government entities and Public School Employees are prohibited from flying any Flags except for the ones that I just described so I was curious about something like um a gay straight Alliance or or a student club that would maybe use a flag to advertise or um as a part of their club meetings are they Exempted because it's student run or does go that yeah the bill the bill only pertains it's a great clarification the bill pertains to public employees it it in fact it it I think if it it does address
032the rights of students to do certain things as long as it's within the school policies and and is not a disruption to the school environment so important advisor would not be held accountable for that either Club advisers are still public employees and so they would be subject to that so that's probably a legal question we would want to explore if the the situations came up I do want to stress that it is only for Flags uh displayed in classrooms by public employees not not for students yeah and flags are defined as a usually rectangular piece of fabric with a specific design that symbolizes um a location government entity or cause and so it seems like even some of these in the picture might not be considered Flags in this bill because they look like they're
033made out of paper so I think this is about something made out of fabric I'll let the attorneys decide what's fabric versus paper I mean and and then yeah I also think it's interesting that there's a $500 a day fine imposed on any entity that does not remove a flag after they've been asked to by the state of interest to me is by the state auditor which is a misunderstanding of the role of the state auditor's office I believe the auditor's office sorry yeah there's also indemnification in this bill there if I'm correct so when we say you're indemnified that is if we go out and remove the flag as an Lea and that teacher wants to sue us we would be indemnified correct and it only goes that direction correct yeah indemnification covers the
034political subdivision or the political entity I should say okay and and honestly I'm not trying to um tell people oh you can get ped this law by doing a paper flag or whatever but it is it does say in the law fabric so that that's all I'm saying fabric is different than cloth I mean I guess it's how you define the word fabric yeah well like when I go to a fabric store well I understand bu def definition but I could also say the fabric is the fabric of Our Lives sure that's not CL many of these bills are going to ensure a lot of job security for those that end up defining what is and what is not part of the the language um hb40 is the school um school security bill this now
035has the update here is it now has a $100 million onetime money uh uh attached to the fiscal note $100 million stretched across uh the state of course will not come close to to meeting the requirements for those things outlined in last year's HB 84 but you know it's not an insignificant sum either especially in a year where there's not a lot of they're you know claiming not a lot of money to go around so a question about fiscal notes so if a bill passes with a fiscal note and then after the passage of that bill executive Appropriations chooses not to fund it what happens to the fiscal note the fiscal notes becomes a moot point it becomes irrelevant and depending depending on the wording of the bill my understanding is the bill can still
036be in effect the requirement can still be there but if it doesn't get funded it in essence could become depending again on the language and and what's how it's written it could become an unfunded mandate we know the recommendation on this fiscal note from public it Appropriations it it has a it it has a positive recommendation meaning they they are recommending so yeah good question so yeah that's school security there's there are also some changes made to um what they're calling window film the specs on that have changed um I don't even want to look over in that corner because those gentlemen they're they're probably just thinking shaking their heads at every change with this but there is language that goes from window film to now it's window glazing and and if and when that
037passes we need to come backck and have them and you find or is it window fabric I I can't remember not the glazing that the kids talk about it's just right and uh this is a bill that is particular interest to the board there was a a pretty decent debate this morning on the house floor there was a call of the house because it was 10 it was like 34 to 33 and someone that would have voted against it wasn't there that would have tied it they called the house and ended up passing narrowly um this bill is a referendum bill you might have recalled from last year's discussion if you were following there were a couple of referendum bills out there HB 408 is uh representative ship and this would allow allow school boards
038to be subject to referendum and uh the the changes to this year's version are that if a school board passes a tax increase or any decision for that matter um on what to name a school for example it can be subject to referendum if the vote of the school board is not a super majority meaning for a seven member board such as us you would need five members voting and or fewer than five members voting really it just means if if you don't have a four vote because if three members vote you know then it's probably going down 3 to four but if you have a a 4 to3 in favor of that bill or that decision would be subject to referendum and there is a does that make sense so a super majority makes
039it referendum proof um and this is concerning for many reasons um not the least of which is if we need to pass a tax increase for example in August for truth and Taxation and it gets held up window yep there's a window there um that they can do that what do we do in the meantime if we need to Levy that tax but it's also being subject to referendum and and signatures in the process that that remains unanswered in my opinion in this bill so that's of a concern um in addition another concern is just the constitutionality of it quite frankly the Constitution has carved out school districts and school boards in the past for reasons we've articulated and it's um there's a reason because we also have under article 10 of the Constitution a
040a mandate for a free and appropriate public education we therefore have a mandate to fund it and I believe the origin you know the originalist than me would say that that's that was the intent of of the writers of the Utah state constitution because they know we needed to we had a mandate to do such so that's a concern um quite frankly and this bill uh yeah yeah this bill is uh like I said to pass the house I think it's going to be in trouble in the Senate historically the Senate is more averse to referendum type bills um and this you know John earlier uh tonight I talked about a change to the minimums that you have to Levy that the school board must Levy well that's kind of problematic when you have things
041subject to referendum it's kind of a so in other words we're trying to do what the state mandated us to do it goes to referendum and then if it doesn't pass there we lose State funding because the state mandated that we have a tax rate that is not maintained therefore it's you you dig yourself into a further hole I believe that's one of the reasons school districts have been Exempted is because you have this circular argument of well you have to have this minimum other government entities do not have such a minimum to receive funding um so that's that's the problem I'm seeing with it is how do you maintain the state mandated minimum to receive your state funding if it's subject to a referendum which was our problem in a prior truth and Taxation
042process and a referendum wanted to take place but we're below the thresholds correct right and and speaking of the threshold um if 10% of the active voters in in the school district were to sign a petition um that's that's where it becomes an active referendum so pretty high bar 10% of all voters are all it says 10% of active voters if the district has more than 25,000 active voters and because we send flyers and and such out to over 100,000 rooftops I would imagine we fall in that category so 10% again High thresholds um what's the super majority on a board of seven because our five five so if we had five correct because our truth and Taxation went 61 I think and so that that would have been two times ago but this last
043time it wouldn't have passed this last time was a 5'2 right 43 43 you're right 43 well it still would have passed they would had to then go get signatur wouldn't have been referendum proof yes that's correct so but if we had a 52 it would be correct both one of us okay okay yeah that again um I think the prognosis on this one is murky um narrowly past the house and historically the Senate this is where these bills died last year is in the Senate okay we could talk for hours about just the education bills out there they are legion but our time is short so that's that's a wrap unless you have further questions well I I think it might be interesting to talk about HB 552 just it's super short to read
044and it just the part that it changes it says a local building authority may not construct acquire improve extend or finance a project on behalf of the creating local entity County City town or School District if the project or any portion of the project or substantially similar project was rejected by the V ERS of the creating local entity so that looks like if we try to pass a bond and it fails then we cannot do like a a you couldn't do a lease Revenue Bond yeah and and that happened to a neighboring School District just recently and they were in a bad situation to build schools correct yeah this this surface last year um same idea and and fortunately and where it's numbered as a general rule bill bills in the 500s come out late
045and they're often times message bills or at least they're the beginning of a a a seed of thought or germination and they rarely rarely make it out that high because they come out so late they don't have time for the process and so not saying they can't at all but that's the the major problem with that bill is that yeah you go out for a bond you want to build a building you're on in the process of it but it doesn't or it doesn't pass and you don't have any other recourse even at least Revenue Bond and so it's a message Bill and so there's there's a message that someone's trying to send local governing boards I guess I guess I um a I believe the Jordan School District board of education has done a
046phenomenal job of balancing when to do a go Bond because there are times to do it that saves the taxpayers gobs of money and when not to do one when it will save taxpayers gobs of money and there's times and and situations to do either one there's two different tools available uh this bill should it pass is really tying the two um which would really kind of Tie Your Hands to not want to do a go bond which is unfortunate because there are times you'd want to do it to uh save that money the the other thing is that when a Geo bond election happens the the uh language is not do you authorize the school board to construct these facilities it it is do you authorize a school board to issue bonds with that
047are General in nature having all of your uh School District assets as collateral on those bonds that's why it goes to the public is because it is a general obligation bond to say all of the assets of the district are going to be collateral here are you willing to allow the board to do this whereas a lease Revenue bond is very unique for collateral on one building so a misunderstanding that I I see that's happening with this bill is people are not understanding that a GE bond is not do I want that construction project happen it's not even the way it's phrased on the language it's um now of course we tell people well why do you want a bond well of course you want to tell people that's part of the the reason to
048do it but um but the question put before the voters is not do we like that project or do we not like that project thank you John and I think also this is the intent I think the messaging intent here is also if you go out to the voters and they tell you no we don't want you going back and doing an end run around them passing a lease Revenue bond which is what they say this that I'm not characterizing that's what we do or any any school board but that is the message that's intended to be purveyed here is that the voters say no and that's the end of you don't have another option so this would require us to change our messaging in a bond campaign or we would be held to the
049wording in the bond itself well I I think should this pass uh the board would have to have a conversation about whether or not it's um it may be wise just to do a lease Revenue bond which is unfortunate that's payers that's a exactly that's not the intent there there are times and situations you can save money with different routes different levers tools um and it would really remove a significant tool from the uh tool box and I think this this discussion also illustrates just how how in tune the the fact that Miss Dean brought this up this bill was just released today like literally it came out today it's still in rules it may not see the light of day but the fact that it's been numbered and it's out there uh it's a
050it's Testament to how involved the school board is not only in this boardroom but up on the Hill so thank you that's it's good to keep track of bills such as this any other thoughts questions on other bills thank you I I just can't extend enough thanks to Dr Anderson and the hard work that he does during the session he takes an already very heavy job and adds to it a lot so we appreciate your hard work and thank you Miss wood for hitting up our government relations and for the work that you've also put in um I just want to add in we've had a couple of opportunities since our last meeting to be on the hill and Miss Wood talked a little bit about the one last week the week before we held
051a board opportunity and we're able to have lunches for legislators if they were able to stop in it was a busy hour of people popping in before caucus and um they noticed us many several people during that day said Hey where's the rest of your board we we were looking forward to seeing them so I don't think that our efforts go unnoticed these legislators are taking the time to come out and see us and and we really appreciate the amount amount of time that it takes for those who are able to go and participate in those meetings all right let's move on to agenda Item B summer 2025 project review and proposed timeline with the Mr Barnett uh Mr Dunford Mr Scott Thomas and Mr Dave rostrom thank you Miss George um we have Scott
052and you're uh Ian and Dave want to come up we wanted to talk uh about summer projects for 2025 back in August I believe the finance committee came to the board and recommended uh presented a recommendation of allocating $10.5 million for summer projects in this coming summer and fortunately we came in really close just slightly over that I think at 10.86 somewhere in there um and that was primarily due to the fact that there were two projects that have been postponed and so it looks like that worked out well for us we don't have to do hopefully too much uh decision making or debates upon which ones we're going to keep and which ones we're not going to keep um the I I wanted to highlight the two that were postponed and I'll have uh
053Scott maybe at some point discuss why they were postponed but there was the the karisu Hamilton um project and that was the one where we were going to provide uh no we were going to re renovate some of the Interior correct right yeah and there were some reasons behind postponing that and the second one remind me what the second one oh it was the Dome fa yeah and that one was postponed I I think primarily because we weren't able to get in touch with the one company that can help us out on this one we're we're kind of limited on who we can deal with and we had um some struggles getting a hold of them but let me bring up the spreadsheet can can we display the are we not able to display that
054spreadsheet in this meeting is that not something we can display at this point want me to bring it up sure or do we just want to all look at it on our devices that's fine if if if that's the best approach John it's just not realizing we wanted it up if you look at the the the column titled total estimated project cost uh last Thursday I believe we got our final bid come in is that right correct yeah MH so these are hot off the press numbers we've we had several um all these projects were put out to bid and we finally got our our final contracted bids come back in and if you look at the bottom of that total estimated project cost column in the middle it's 10.86 million so it's it's close
055to the 10.5 that we wanted or that we had allocated for summer projects and then you'll notice at the bottom those two that were um postponed there is a small cost still on the Karis Sue that we'll have to pay due I think that was mainly architectural correct that's the design so I think it's an 80% design is that correct Dave yeah so we'll still have to pay that and then in the event that we do that another year U maybe perhaps next summer we'll have already paid for that portion yeah perfect are there any I think some of us have spoken with Scott or or his staff individually but are there any any questions that or Scott is there any clarification that you want to make on any of these projects if if there's
056specific questions I know uh we our our writeups jus ifications used to be a lot longer and then we were asked at one point to really try to shorten those and summarize them a little bit so we hope of course our our summaries don't include every detail but we hope that they're comprehensive enough where you kind of get the basic idea behind it always happy to answer more questions if if there's questions about the two specific projects and kind of what we've encountered there we're happy to answer them or any of these columns we we just try to be very transparent and you'll see the original uh estimated cost that something we brought back in August and then the board gives um authorization to move forward with some basic design and we start working with
057the Artic Architects to come back in November which is the revised estimated cost and then when you go all the way back to the to the left here uh the contractor bid that comes in the fees for the total estimated project so so everything you've seen is on one sheet and we just hope that's not too confusing because it's a lot it's actually I think Scott mentioned to me the other day it's it's really interesting how much closer we're getting almost every year we're yeah these guys know what they're doing I guess these guys know what so Bingham track replacement was an alternate that I don't see here did that get dropped as well it did when we brought back the revised estimates in November when it come back at the you know close to
05813 million uh the board chose to drop the track at that point and we talked about taking the weight room and restrooms out at South Jordan Middle and that would REM drop the price did that is that not an alternate we're going to go with the weight room and the restrooms it is an alternate on there so there's a couple of alternates on South Jordan Middle on the ride up or on the the summary from purchasing uh so you can the the base bid was everything kind of on the kitchen side of the hallway and then there's an alternate for uh the other side which would be on the gym and cafeteria side and that that's where the restrooms would be located and so that's alternate B and then we also as part of this
059um you know South Jordan Middle was on the list for some seismic studies that we did previously and so alternate three on that is to address the seismic portion we wanted to separate that out um and those funds would come out of some districtwide funds that were allocated this summer for seismic mitigation so there's a couple of options on South Jordan Middle see it now sorry I didn't see it first but I see it now thank you I still don't see it it's in the right up on this document right there was also the Bingham High School additional parking on the southwest corner so that was that corner piece that's also an alternate so the as always and it's it's great the way the board uh structures this so that you have some flexibility in
060approving or not approving to stay within the budget you've asked for I will point out that these are on our agenda for the business meeting so ask all of your questions how much money do we have set aside for summer projects we budgeted 10.5 million so we can't do all of these projects then because the estimated we some of this like on on this one you'll see for example that we allocated a specific fund for seismic updates we also allocated a specific fund for um improving Stadium Sound and Lighting so some of the things that are going to pop up on the bids tonight wouldn't come from that 10.5 if that makes any sense at all but I for one I'm not going to lose any sleep by going 300,000 over we've gone considerably over
061in the past like this is a little less than we usually go yeah so to start off with a a recommended budget of 10.5 and a final cost of 10.8 I I feel very good about that going over our budget wouldn't go over our balance okay thank you I was just looking at John to see John doesn't like me to say that but that's the accurate and do what we want but are we going to be in trouble what what are the consequences of going over but it just have less just have less money for something else yeah but but everything that's been said is accurate if you were to approve all of these including the um Bingham alternate the alternates the higher alternates you'll be okay I mean that's I I don't want you
062to feel like we're giving up you know we won't be able to build a I don't know what you have money set aside in your capital projects fund to do things just like this and going 300,000 on on this size of a project breadth of projects is just fine why did we go lower this year because we usually we're at 13 to 15 because we allocated those seismic funds and gave him a gave them a little bit more money to handle certain things that kept coming back again and again and again okay so we decreased our summer projects funds and increased ongoing M ongoing okay that makes sense and we're going to thank you every chance we get thanks it's very nice well it's a benefit to us because it slows down the the process
063to come to the board and have it be a summer project when you could just take care of it as it comes up our our capital projects funds uh fund has a a balance there's a there's a healthy balance there's a there's a range that we don't want to dip below and so if we if we go 300,000 over here it we have plenty of buffer in there built in to that fund already is that is that right John yes in fact your your healthiest fund balance is your capital projects fund balance it's it's in excellent shape it's well above your Target Fund balance um there was funds there if you remember a year ago year and a half ago uh the board was considering building a school and uh opted not to and so
064there's there's funds saved there through other decisions made so you have you have cash available here and when finance committee makes a recommendation we never assume oh you can't go a penny over this it's just like it would be best if we stayed relatively in this range this is relatively in that range can you also speak to John that um that Target Fund balance that's that's a a percentage kind of set by audit standards or by the state or how does that work because sometimes people think oh why do you have all that money sitting there kind of a thing you know I've heard that recently yeah maybe maybe just explain what that fund balance why we have it if it's if it's mandated or Not by by state law or by audit practices or
065yeah thank you I if I go tooo long though someone's got okay just make it make it short and sweet okay so get your hand on the switch someone within government entities governments are set up with funds and the funds are set up specifically for different restricted buckets of monies the general fund is for the general operations of the district and the Target Fund balance on that one is a percentage of operations the capital projects fund is funds restricted and set aside for Capital issues Capital uh building facility type issues land um you cannot use those funds to say given a raise um the Target on that one is a set dollar amount not a percentage because the nature of this fund is one-time monies used for one-time purposes uh ongoing in that way um
066so each of these funds has a balance set aside for it's Unique purpose within each fund there's also programs and other things set aside for Unique purposes and I'm just going to go to to a very small example but clear down to a donation that somebody says well I want Mrs Jones class to have $50 for their year-end party and they donate that money we set that money aside for Mrs Jones class and we've got thousands that many thousands of those type of buckets just small ones the funds are the bigger buckets where we have uh eight of those now I can go more but is that that's good thank you okay and and we decided as a finance committee this last year we decided that as a recommendation we should always have enough cash
067on hand in our capital budget to build an elementary school if we absolutely had to so that's our Target but obviously we're sitting pretty and we're not going to have to build an emergency elementary school but we could and I'll just add that that was a recommendation of Finance but it was also adopted by the board the finance committee could have come back and said we're going to recommend $30 million for summer projects and if that had been approved it most likely would have taken us our our Target balance a little lower than we felt comfortable and and and so we came to that 10.5 million we're good with this and yeah I have to step out of the meeting for personal reasons but I I don't know if I'll be back I think I'll
068be back in time for the bids I plan on being back but just I want my voice to be heard I would recommend that we approve all of the projects and their alternates I think they are well within our range and so that would be my recommendation just in case I'm not back in time so option three for South Jordan yes option three since that option three is coming out of seismic funds right yep any anything else Scott Dave Ian you want to share with us on the process I mean it might help a couple of the new board members if there's anything specifically that you think might be of of interest to them are there are there questions about the process I mean this is we've had so much support from the board and
069the different committees over the years to kind of refine this process but um you know those you know Miss Barrow you'll be on the finance or facilities committee this year so you'll be able to kind of go through like we discussed the yesterday you'll be able to see the whole entire process now and we're actually do in the middle of our assessment for summer of 26 we haven't even got to Summer of 25 so we're very far ahead of the process and we'll just continue with that were there any questions specifically about the transportation or Caris Su that weren't addressed in the writeups and maybe the rationale behind that I have a question with um the BM Alterna um do you have any designs of what that will look like is just such an ugly
070corner but I can see it before I drove by it on the way here and I'm like that is the ugliest Corner in all of our schools I do go look at it again it it's just a lot of wasted space and like the signs way back this is okay okay I think it looks horrible do other school districts have summer do summer projects like us or are we unique or I know I would imagine they do I'm I'm sure most do uh that's that's the only time they have really to jump into the bigger projects like this but it'd be interesting we you know that's a good question we never haven't really ever studied their process but this has just been refined so well over the years that this kind of works out for
071us can I ask [Music] um about the South Jordan Middle alternate the seismic upgrades there isn't necessarily a bid tonight on that specifically was it lumped in with something else did I miss something or look at the attachment on the bids it outlines all three options on the south Jordan included that as an alternate during the bid process so the the low bid for the renovations for South Jordan Middle includes the the seismic mitigation so option three is the seismic right correct so option one yeah yeah so if you go to the business meeting and then look under the bids and find agenda item I the business meeting I had Bryce just explained it to me too so but bear in mind that the sizmic upgrades are a separate pot we we've kind of set
072aside funds that are specific to seismic upgrade recommendations that we've received so that's not part of your 10.5 or 10.8 something now if that makes any sense and the same is true of the stadium upgrades for West Jordan and Copper Hills that's kind of coming from a separate pot because we allocated money specific to that project clear's mud that was one of those we keep seeing these same problems coming up let's just put money towards it so that you can address them in the way and the time that is most fiscally beneficial for the district did I say that right Scott please correct me and there's and there's a really good chance I mean as we continue with our assessment that the two at the bottom transportation and car Su will more than likely end
073up on the assessment for this next coming year and then the board will have an opportunity again to uh examine those and look at them so I know this isn't specific to summer projects but maybe it's easier to ask the question now so agenda item K the transportation services we're still saying we are going to transport our own students with disabilities this is just like if there's yeah yeah like one student who needs correct like we would have to send an entire bus for one kidre so so Paul explained it really well yesterday there there's about seven instances in the district now right now where we have students that are on the far reaches of the district for example a student that lives in Bluffdale a specialed student that lives in Bluffdale that needs to
074be transported to West Jordan there are those onesie tues that it's just more efficient to send this thirdparty transportation service to pick those students up and transport them than it is to send an entire bus to to do that and we I think we started with 12 when we're down to and it just fluctuates year by year so it seemed to be a little little more efficient to do that let me know if this is a question better asked elsewhere okay but I am I am curious how we determine which bid we want to accept my concern is if we always go for the lowest bid there may be surprise um expenses on the other end correct so what factors are we considering when we say here's the bid we want besides just money cuz
075I'm looking at the South Jordan middle one for example I see there's one that's quite a bit higher yeah your thoughts your experience I'm going to let da can I defer that to Dave and Ian to kind of talk about a little bit about the RFP process and the pre-qualification process that I think is very important to understand and and a lot of that includes our our past history and working with these groups but but let Dave dive into that that's a great question on on all of the summer projects other than South Jordan midle we open it up to all of the contractors because they're fairly small projects um South Jordan Middle we did some pre-qualifications so we put out an soq which is a statement of qualifications from General Contractors they kind of
076bring in their portfolio of um of what projects they've done like like projects um we look at their financing we look at their bonding ability and and so we'll we'll take that and for an example we probably had I mean we have eight or nine um contractors that put in for that approximately I can't remember the exact number uh we didn't choose all eight or nine of them there were some small companies that we didn't feel like and they didn't have the bonding ability to to do the job so um we narrowed that down to five so we felt confident that all five of those contractors have the ability to do so you vetted all of the bids and these are just the ones that on South Jordan midle on the rest of them we
077opened it up to any contractor um so we have some new contractors this year that were working with it has has not worked for Jordan School District in the past but same way there we we'll kind of confirm the numbers with them um they're required to get a bid Bond and a performance bond um so that if for some reason they can't perform or they went bankrupt during the process we can go against their bond and get the money to hire another contractor to do the work so we have a we have a couple little safety nets there in there and and after so many years of of doing this one of the one of the benefits of you know having Dave and Ian done this for so so long they've done so many projects
078and the craft knowledge that's there over time to be able to say you know we're we're examining subcontractors I mean we know is you know a lot of the same contractors use the same subs and so it's easy for them to go through and say oh we've worked with this group before I don't know about this group I mean it's just so yeah there's a very rigorous vetting process if that makes sense great so you wouldn't say that you're always recommending just the lowest bid because it's the lowest our our process is we've went to that and we've had pretty good luck with it you have okay okay I think that the vetting in advance allows you to take the lowest out of that's right who remains we know that any of these companies can
079do the job we have confidence that any of these companies can do the job now let's see who can do it for the least amount of money I see because the the eight or nine others may have bid less but didn't pass muster correct they weren't even able to bid on it because we we it was a select group that could bid on them okay they also do I'm sorry they also do a great job of being very precise in what's required in that bid so that that may I mean companies can look at that and self- select out to say I'm I'm not able to provide that that service or that particular they have yeah level of construction so South Jordan Mill is a a big project um to get get that much work
080done in N9 weeks is is very difficult um so we we're we're aware of that we did run into we did a similar project at ochre Hills midle a few years ago and we went into a couple of weeks where we had to bring food in uh from a neighboring kitchen and that could be the case on this one just because of the amount of work that's trying to be done in we're already put already putting a contingency plan in place for that we've been meeting with Katie and her group to get that situated and hope you don't need it and hope you don't need it thank you so much I appreciate all your work on this thank you other questions are board members comforable on these during our business session great thank you so
081much for your hard work we are always impressed with your accuracy and um your your crystal ball abilities we appreciate that thank you you all right our next agenda item is a re review of the proposed revisions to administrative policy DP 338 reimbursement of licensed employees elected to public office this agenda item doesn't have anything new from what we discussed at a previous meeting but as it's going to appear on the business session we wanted to give one more opportunity for questions or um anything that you feel like you want to talk about before we take it to a vote anyone have anything perfect well I am excited about these changes I think it opens a lot of doors and it's a good compromise to previous discussions so I appreciate that president in the in
082the header is it just standard practice that when that that we update the revision date and the review date it doesn't have to show here as being changed it that just happens right yes yeah okay yeah it will show regardless it will say that we've reviewed it even changes this is two policies coming into one also have so okay it's a quickest agenda item we've ever had all right let's move into our follow-up discussion on board priorities so at our last meeting discussed as a board parities for us over the next year to look and disc um and then we made the commitment that we would create a path forward for each of those agenda items and we wanted to bring this one back with some First Steps so if you don't see yours in
083this part of the discussion please don't worry we'll get there but we want to take this in bite-sized chunks if that makes sense so um a couple of the higher voted items were first an hiring an in-house and wanted to bring the idea to the board that we assign finance committee to look at the costs for that and then to consider ways that we can economize so if we choose to spend the money here is there a way that we can tighten the belt in other areas um are you guys comfortable if that one starts out with our finance committee yes Perfect all right the next one uh we discussed boundary changes that could have the potential of reducing busing um if you'll recall Mr Larson brought that one to the group and we felt
084like a good place to start that study might be in the facilities committee are you guys okay with that beginning as committee work and then we'll bring it back to the board of course they won't be making any boundary adjustment decisions without us but um that way they can dig in facilities committee already had an assignment to look at boundary changes and and so we just thought we could kind of roll roll that into that as well that was kind of the consideration right perfect I think that's great okay we're okay with that yes y okay there any concerns holler at me I I'm not holding formal votes but if you want them please motion okay uh the next couple we thought might Merit a little more discussion as we came back and started to
085put our head around what exactly we're looking for um we thought we'd bring it back so first of all the multi-tiered systems of appro or multi-tiered systems approach um is something that had a lot of interest among the entire board but we thought it might be good because several people put their stamp on it and I think it kind of diluted exactly what are we asking for when we talk about this so in the one case we talked about secondary in a secondary setting what do we do for students who still need additional help beyond that level two approach um I also heard discussions about um students who so academic needs specifically we also to talk had talk about behavioral needs we had talk about special education so before we kind of try to divvy
086out who would be the best person to get their teeth into this topic I thought maybe we could have a little bit of discussion to make sure that we're answering the questions that really are being asked anything thoughts there there was you know in in executive as we discussed it we at least I was trying to pinpoint what the problem was or the problems that we were trying to solve or trying to address so I think maybe as a possible first step would be Define the problem or the problems and um because you know there were a set of problems that I had in mind I think there were a set of problems that Miss Dean had in mind when she brought that up and maybe some special educa you know um so I don't
087know if we want to share those if we're prepared to share those now or if we want to come back at a later time yeah do we need more time to think about that or do people have comments now I think I'll need more time to talk about it I think what I would not want is um how do I say this I think mtss is important for special ed um I don't want it to be limited to special ed so I'm not really sure if I would want mtss under a special ed initiative or to roll it under an mtss initiative I that I'm not I don't have Clarity on so and I think that's a fair response that we we maybe need to put some more thought into specifically what what's the problem
088we're trying to solve and what is the question we're asking maybe that's the same thing stated two different ways I mean is it too General to say what kinds of behaviors are getting in the way of all of our students secondary special ed or more broadly learning or achieving academic success um that feels like a very broad stroke to me I don't I would love to hear from Lisa or Brian if they had specific concerns or if it was just an introduction let's hash it out um so I I'm curious if um if looking at Tableau with like Ben Jameson or somebody else if they could help provide some clarity about what is going on statistically in our district if that would give us a little I don't know I don't know exactly how to
089start but I don't know if that's something where we could see okay this is one area that we could look at or a grade or a of school or something or uh demographic or I I don't know but I don't know if if that would be helpful to provide some clarity to look at statistics is that does that ever give where we could have the greatest impact or maybe what's a lwh hanging fruit that we could have quick success I don't know yeah yeah and then help us move on to something else is it helpful to look at these types of Statistics statistics related to what specifically so like on Tableau there are a lot of different parameters you can set as far as graduation rates and reading scores and math scores and um and
090so for me with the multi-tiered uh support systems of support my vision was that we would find ways to um help more students succeed and not necessarily fall through the cracks I I worry like having worked at a high school and then at a middle school um there are some students that and and not a lot but there are some students that have that are lacking in some skills that you might assume they would have at a seventh or eighth or 10th grade level and so I don't know if looking at statistics would help us find a way to or looking at data I guess I should say would help us find areas where we could have the greatest impact because I I I'm not sure but I think that there are these types of
091situations in every feeder system where there are students who are behind in their skill levels and may not we don't quite know how to support them I don't I don't know what I'm asking so but I I just don't know how to find how to best reach students or even how to know which students need that support I am really rambling I don't know what I want look to see if there's a specific grouping of students that seem to be struggling more than another that that could use them yeah even in even if we decide on a subject um and and like I said for for me I'm thinking about secondary because I think that it's more difficult to learn how to read and how to get those basic basic math skills in a general
092Ed secondary math or language arts class than it is in a first like K through six class and so I think that um that's why I'm thinking about secondary I just want to know how we can help students wherever we can either in E yeah the ones that are that are most glaring to me are um reading and math and I I don't know exactly how to say this but or but anyway that's that's what I'm thinking about can I ask you like a clarifying question do you think it would be beneficial for you to maybe get more clarity on what you're searching to go just yourself and see if there statistics meet with someone in the district who's over that um and then maybe visit a few schools and ask them what's actually going
093on so you can see the process and then maybe see what's happening and then ask them if they think there are any holes and then get more clarity on how we might proceed I think that sounds great and I don't know if the board would want if is that a good idea or I don't know what's a good idea it depends on what you're hoping to accomplish so if we talk about mtss specifically it's a multi-tiered system of support for either academics Behavior or social and emotional Wellness so we can look at which of those categories we want to focus on or if we would like if you'd like a goal in each of those categories and then we can look at the broader Trends and then we can look speak to a smaller group
094of teachers or parents or students at a school that represents the trend because otherwise then you're pulling yourself in two different directions to say this is the trend but this is what this individual School needs so you could go deeper with a quantitative look overall at what are the results that concern us and then have a qualitative look by having a conversation with people who are in a situation that seems to match the broader Trend and and actually what you were just saying has given me a little more clarity because here I'm thinking about academics but I think that probably first we need to figure out how to help with behaviors um I I mean I feel like behaviors imp impact academics yeah and so one approach we've taken maybe this will be helpful one
095approach that we have taken as a cabinet is that when we have a concern about a behavior issue that where a school says we we don't feel like this has been resolved or it wasn't resolved in a timely way or we still have questions then we take that particular situation and we use it as a case study to say what happened what should have happened what could have happened and then what broader lessons can we draw from this are there things that we need to apply Beyond this specific situation to help Behavior improve more broadly or or to help our supports um be more effective throughout the district so I think there are a few different ways that we could could approach it but I think what we need to start with is which of
096those three categories would you like to emphasize or would you like to set a goal in each of the three categories and then we can bring some data to help inform that let me just share something that I've been thinking about when I my career history has always been small business and um small businesses can turn quickly make decisions quickly um make changes quickly that's the environment I came from and when I got on the board I was struggling to figure out how do I get things done with an organization this big with all these different levels and these manuals of policies and and so yeah it's taken me 18 months 24 months to finally figure out oh this is the process this is how you get something done and I've I've just barely gone
097through that with one of the items that I wanted to see some changes done and it was the behavioral side of this and so I I formulated the changes that I wanted to see in a a proposed motion or that I would present to the board and we would vote yes or no on it so I I I kind of formulated here here's well first of all let me back up I received some information from constituents pointing out some problems that they wanted to see fixed problems that were you know from from their perspective several different scenarios that that they had had described to them that had happened and they were behavioral related issues in schools and I didn't know how to solve the problem and with the help of some experienced board members I
098was directed well it'd probably be a good idea to sit down with Anthony and describe the situation and describe what you want changed and I did that I've sat down with Anthony two or three times on this particular issue and we've gone back and forth and he shared his experience and I feel pretty close now to coming to the board with a proposal and you know that's kind of the process that I went through so I don't know if maybe that's something May if if you want to or maybe you already have some ideas on how to move forward with but yeah it it sound like I have some good ideas I don't think so I just have like this broad thing of what I hope like my hope for every student in our school
099district every student in every classroom to have the best opportunity possible for them to learn and grow and connect with the curriculum and each other and there teachers and but I don't know I don't have any good ideas how to do that I have another suggestion another thought that might move us down the path and I appreciate Mr Barnett's comments I I've I have really valued our the and I and I've had conversations with each of you about various issues digging deep on it on on this has has been very helpful for me because it's instructive to hear the the perspective from you and from the patron and we'll I feel like we've made a lot of progress as well just with some in-depth discussions if we if we want to talk about behavior and
100mtss we brought in the team that provides that training and it's a lot to hear all at once but after that after we talked about that the board said how do we make this available to more schools because this is a really good train training it seems like a good training not like not that you went through it but you were positive about what you heard and so one way to approach it if you were looking at Behavior would be to look at the the impact that Mt that program has had in schools that have implemented it schoolwide you can say how are things going in the schools where we've implemented this program how are how and and we can look at that from a statistical standpoint but we can also talk with people and
101Survey people and find out how they're feeling about the impact of that program because until you have the tier one support solidly in place then you don't really know where the where the issues are that may need additional resources otherwise you you haven't gone far enough as as the author says you haven't gone far enough Upstream to determine where the problem is and when you talk about lwh hanging fruit the lwh hanging fruit on behavior in my opinion is having a schoolwide plan that's provided by this team and then you say now with a schoolwide plan where we've done everything that we think will have an impact on the school as a whole and will prevent problems in the first place and solve them if they do arise what Still Remains to be done what
102do we still need to address what are the more extreme cases that need some additional a unique approach or more resources because if if you don't have a schoolwide system in place and you haven't had that the support that we have seen work in schools then you're really a addressing problems once they become problems instead of looking early enough to see if you can provide the support to students that would help prevent those problems in the first place and then I think we're just chasing fires instead of really taking a a um the approach where we do everything we know we can to start with and then solve at a tier 2 and tier three level after that now I'm open to however you want want to approach it but that would be one way
103to look at is to say where we've done this where we've provided this training and support what has the impact been statistically and I mean quantitatively and qualitatively and based on that should we put the resources in place that would allow us to expand that effort so so we already have this program and it's hap gone to a few schools already and feel like um this all sounds so familiar I think you've explained this to me like five times but I keep forgetting so but um and so I'm sorry about that but um doesn't feel like five times to me okay maybe three times three times but um so that could be a good place to start is find out how this program has affected the schools where it has been implemented and see if
104there's more that we can do or if it's something that would be effective at other schools is that is that is it something we should expand based on what we've seen so far and that feels very much like a board decision to say okay well they're at their limit they can't do more with the people that they have do we expand it financially which I love that question because it feels like it's in our lane um so my question to you is based on this conversation I a big question I had was are we talking about behaviors or academics and I understand that they intertwine but specific in this study I'm starting to feel a Veer towards Behavior yeah because I feel like we already have something that we can look at and assess how
105well has this worked PBIS is that the program that came came and they like present it on okay I just want to make sure I'm thinking of the same thing you're talking about yes and thank you to link for linking back to that and I also want to clarify it's not all behavior is not special education related and that and that's why we want to look at tier one first I think because then you see okay even when we have this implemented well at a school where everyone feels like this is making a big impact they've seen X number of referrals go down on what what else what can we do next what what what remains uh to be done and you know we've we've put this in place in more than half of our
106elementary schools but there are many left to be done and the level of support that can be provided is dependent on really the number of Staff members that we have available so even those who have gone through this could have additional support depending on how much the resources that are made available so this this that's that's just one way that you could approach it with academics you know there are lots of different ways we can look at that social emotional Wellness but as Miss George said that sounded like you were moving toward Behavior as a focus so that's that's one way we could look at it and is this a a program that could move up to middle school or high school or it it because I feel like that could be a step also
107is seeing how it works in a middle school yes and and then once we kind of assess that then we can see how it works at a high school I mean because I it it seems to me like going to a middle school we would possibly see some changes that would be made and that that could be effective in high school also right and and we have highly skilled people every time I talk with them I'm so impressed with their depth of knowledge with their skills and conveying the the knowledge they have and really resetting mindsets and they're just so good but they are also can only do so much so I I have real confidence in the program and in the people the question is how much how many resour how much resource how
108how much funding can we provide really it comes down to funding how much is the board I'll say the word how how much funding is available to get to get the people we need to free them up to focus on providing the the ongoing support needed for those who already have it in place to continue with elementary schools so that we we have the program available everywhere and then moving up to middle school and High School I always think that if you can solve things at elementary if you can address it early then you set students on a path for Success too often we work our way down in education but in Jordan we've really I I with the board support you you supported a big influx of of um of resources at the elementary
109level so that reading scores math scores um just support to teachers is there we've done it at all three levels but at any rate it pays big dividends if you can help students early on so increasing ongoing support we have great people and a great program at their Max and so you can decide can we provide more ongoing support can we expand to the rest of our elementary schools and can we expand to middle and high school all of that requires more money for more people so I have a question have has the board received um information or presentation during um one of these study sessions about this um PBIS when was that it has it been item that Brian brought to us and it was not exhaustive by any means okay so six eight
110months ago maybe Brian and I both requested more information and so then Lisa reached out to us with the materials that they're using so I think it was OCT we requested more it was so it was just recently okay wasn't super long ago and it was only one meeting but it was like an informational presentation um is there a way that we could get a presentation on data as far as like referral has it been going on long enough to have comparative data from well before this it was like this or or is are we not at that time yet I'm not a data scientist but luckily we have one and she would tell me she that we can definitely learn some things we don't have long-term trends uhuh but shortterm TR I know it's
111had a very positive impact and I think we could demonstrate some concrete ways in which there has been a a a marked change in the way that students behave and teachers feel when it's been properly implemented how does the board feel about having a presentation I would like it everything you said is a direction I would like to go my only ask in addition is I would be interested in seeing data of special ed students and General Ed in addition to the whole okay um breaking it down if that's possible okay the impact on the special ed students in particular how it's even been implemented in the specialed world like is are are they using the same system the rest of the school is using so often they're not so that would be helpful for
112me to understand can I ask how long we've had PBIS here at the district that we've been using it how long have we been providing that training um yeah I'm trying to yeah a few years a few years not for a very long time okay like three or 4ish um more like I would say five or six okay okay and it's hasn't reached each school yet is it will you remind 27 elementaries 27 elementaries I feel like because um my local elementary just started it in the fall and I hadn't heard about it before and I was glad that we were implementing this program because I felt that it was needed um but I I think it's more of like a as needed basis or the principal just kind of decides like oh I think
113we should do this program is that kind of how it happens like it's just like a oh I guess the school needs it now we'll we'll cue them in on this program I don't know there a certain amount of slots a certain number of slots rather available oh okay and so we have limited capacity and so it's it's capacity enthusiasm from the school and um so we we started five or six years ago but we did have Co that got in the way of everything over that period of time so that shut things down for a while um when kids learn online there still are behavior issues they bring their pet onto the camera and you know everything is over at that point but there will be an asteris there with that's right there's an
114asterisk but is it is it fully imple is it implemented at all at River's Edge River's Edge is the most structured school we have and there is a um so I don't know that it's specifically PBIS but they have very effective ways of managing improving and addressing Behavior there I didn't know if there would be a before and an after I at at a secondary level yeah that's highly small numbers River's Edge is really highly specialized yeah so it's at 27 elementaries now um it's been ongoing for since 2019 um the or yeah I think it's 2019 the the it's the ongoing support that's also important if it become if it becomes a schoolwide if it becomes a districtwide opportunity the idea is okay are we maintaining this with Fidelity with turnover with a principle
115and all of that do we have that unified approach and I think it's a it's a it's always work to put something new in place but it's a relief to have something that you can put in place to help address one of the main obstacles to effective instruction actually do have oh go ahead I'm just going to ask um so it's only in elementary schools we don't have it in any secondary schools yet not secondary schools at this point not as a schoolwide model okay is this a program like that I don't know like that we came up with or is this something that we pulled in from like a third party that we got ideas and um does it have experience at the secondary level that we know of those were a lot of
116questions s sorry in other words has it been used at the secondary level yes and where did this program come originate I guess is the question that's going a little deeper than I'm able to uh provide it is not it's our program we came up with okay it's not something we developed but I would assume that it's something that we if not modified emphasize various aspects of it um we've made it our own but we didn't create it from scratch is what I would say okay and it has but it has been used in secondary model we could follow once we want to put it in secondaries and that call this a best practice approach in the education world right now it's not like you're buying a curriculum this is like a a philosophy or
117approach to it it it is a na it is a national program it isn't there are National materials available um and that's what we work from but you always you always adapt from there so there would be great that helps yeah so it's what's happening it's welln it's well known it's it's it's there's a clear approach clearly established um is is there something in the the process itself that ensures that a school that's been properly trained keeps doing it every year is is there some aspect of it that says because you know the the worst thing would be you you you train to school and they use it for a few years and it slowly kind of Fades out right yeah that that's the worry with everything so for example at the elementary level if
118you take walk to read we have a principal assistant principal and instructional coach who are all there and and we have we have specialists in teaching and learning we have lots of teams of people to make sure that things are happening as they should and you referenced earlier the size of our district I I will add that even with the size of our district I think if you asked other districts they would characterize us as being pretty deaf at and Nimble at making moves relative to our size School ai's implementation for example we were able to move forward with that pretty quickly but there are so many moving parts that you can't there's a lot that you have to think about and so you're absolutely right we have to the worry is that even a
119great idea that is initially well implemented requires a lot of check-in a lot of um Mo monitoring is maybe the wrong word but maybe it's the right word it has to be monitored you have to make sure that you're staying true to what we know works and that is a big aspect of being a part of yeah I was an organization this size so so when I say ongoing support the we would need more people to ensure that this is happening in the way that it ought to it's the initial training and some support we're able to provide but the more support you provide the the the longer lasting the effects if we had implemented this in 2010 would we have 15 years of data or would we have four years of data here and
120yeah yeah exactly exactly so hoping for a cultural change make it deep enough that the culture changes around this so I misspoke um superintendent when I said I just had one ask I have a second one that's maybe two and three great keep going that is I would be interested in the experts in the district on mtss or if we're going to focus specifically on PBIS what are their recommendations and what would they ask for if they could have anything which we know they can't but I would be curious what are the experts saying about our district and our students well um I would love to bring them here I have asked those questions backstage as as it were and said what would it take for us to do more and to do some of
121these things that we talked about because to Mr Barnett's point you want it to be put in place and have a lasting impact and have data to show that it's having a lasting impact you want a cultural shift and I think we're at a point where we have a critical mass of schools who have done it and seen positive results so we could there there's momentum that we could ride to move this forward but the experts could tell you if we had these things in place if we had these resources we would be able to make sure that the impact that we've seen is lasting and expand that to the remainder of our elementary schools or there's a separate model for secondary start to implement that secondary model as well so part the answer to
122those questions would come in discussion about exactly what you're hoping to accomplish ultimately yeah so even with the data I would like that that perspective of opportunities and barriers that they're seeing yeah I think the barrier question is an important one and and where has it gone really smoothly and what are the factors involved lead to success and I don't want to suggest that we just train and then it's done there's support in year 2 there's a there's a sense of accountability to the team that has that has been involved in the training so I'm not trying to overstate that but it's re this is always the question hey we did this cool thing okay what's the next cool thing you don't want it to just flare up and be flash in the pan you
123want it to be an enduring cultural shift that makes teaching and learning feel great in Jordan which many time most of the time it does we just want that extra want to get that extra um impact on the classroom and so I um I went back and I found the presentation from September about the mtss and I'm looking at these Jordan School District systems of support and I feel like these have like the proficiency based learning POS the PBIS positive behavioral interventions and supports response to intervention social emotional wellness and professional learning communities I I seen these used at different schools on different levels so I think that the district is already taking the approach of you know trying to do this here and this here you know what we can yeah to to help
124this and so I think that the the PBIS the positive behavioral interventions and supports could be a good Focus for like this um um board priority for this year if I don't know does that I agree sound good I mean I I like all of these so much but I think we do need to look at one and I do see places where the school district is working so hard to help people Implement all of these at our school so I mean some are more at well I don't I don't know what I'm saying but anyway I think the positive behavioral interventions and supports could be a good a good Focus for our board priority if the rest of the board thinks that that's a okay anyone seeing this differently are we all on the
125same page with looking at some behavioral supports okay let me then summarize what I understood from this conversation please correct me um I've just been taking notes so we would like to ask staff to come back to us with a report on how effective has PBIS been in the schools that are fully implemented and is this a program that could use expansion um include data breaking out by special education versus general education and um recommendations from the experts in the the districts on specifically what they would need in order to expand the program if that's their recommendation did that cover it great that sounds perfect all that talk condensed into this seed I love it though well done well done did nothing but take notes thank you for the conversation okay um one more item
126that I hope we have the capacity for right now and then we will add of course this list as we go along and that is there was um a bit of interest in uh just taking a close look at teacher prep time across levels I'm wondering if that is something that we're comfortable asking cabinet to look at what are the options and what are the costs in relation to those options and then a future presentation does that sound okay Perfect all right anything else that anyone feels is really pressing I mean all of them are pressing but I hate to bite off so many at once that we dilute our efforts so we're comfortable here when we master all that we can move on to the next item perfect should take a sweat a month
127maybe no sweat Perfect all right could I add one thing sure um I feel like maybe kind of in relation to the the B behavioral uh things we're going to be looking at um we might could tie in if it works or not um looking at the the Pol policy adjustments for uh discipline of students and training staff on that Brian had mentioned that and I feel like that might go hand inand um and but I I feel that that is also something we should look at to help support uh teachers with perhaps the behavioral problem just make a quick comment thank you um the items that I have listed on our spreadsheet for possible agenda items I I think they are highly focused and things that can get done quickly they're not and and
128they do tie in with the broad picture that we've just been discussing but this broader picture is like Suzanne mentioned kind of a cultural change and these are these items Anthony and I have have talked about these as well and and I think they'll be coming to the board within a month or two these specific items so yeah I don't know that we need to officially say let's roll these in because okay I feel like they're going to be coming shortly yeah yes so want them to get forgotten because I thought they were very important so thanks for bringing that up that's the that that will be the fruit of our discussions I think and um and and just to to tie up that previous discussion for those listening you asked a question um earlier
129Miss Barrow about the um who's chosen how does this happen and really right now it's been organically that mtss has spread so we have these slots who's interested but if you start to implement it on a broader scale to really have the impact that Mr Barnett and others have described then that's where the additional resources have have to come in to realistically have the bandwidth to do it in a meaningful way so hey this is a great program we have the people who can provide it this is the number of slots we have available wow this is really working if we could expand that then we could really have a a broad impact thank you thank you so much this has been a productive conversation and I appreciate everyone's Insight uh with that we are
130at the end of our study session agenda um we can either have a half hour break today or we could start on close session what's the appetite of the board I think 15 minutes s okay I second all right so we have do we need a motion to go into close because you have to State the purposes yes would someone like to make a motion once I find the reasons for close roll to the end thank you I move that we go into close session to discuss character and competency of individuals property potential litigation negotiations and security I second all right we have a motion in a second to go into close session for character incompetence of individuals property potential litigation negotiations and security and we'll take a roll call vote Mr Barnett yes Miss
131Barrow yes Mr Robinson I'm Dr Robinson I keep doing that I'm sorry how could I forget doctor doctor's still uncomfortable mwood yes and Miss Dean yes all right motion oh and I am a yes so that motion carries and we are now adjourned for close session e e e everyone to the Jordan Board of Education meeting today is Tuesday February 25th it is so fun to have a full room today we're excited to have you and we appreciate you being here we also want to welcome those who are listening or watching on YouTube we appreciate your involvement all right I am Nikki George the president of the board and present with me on the dis is our board attorney Mr Paul bomman Lisa Dean Suzanne wood Aaron Barrow Brian Barnett uh and Robinson and we
132will temporarily excuse Bryce denford he'll be joining us later and then we also have joining us our superintendent Dr Anthony Godfrey our associate superintendent Dr Mike Anderson and our business administrator John Larson All right we are excited tonight to kick off with our and welcome Mountain Creek Middle School who will be doing our opening we'll start with with a pledge allegiance by Ary Garrett Anthony Kerr and Claire walsten Color Guard detention um will the audience please rise for the presentation of the colors and salute in the appropriate manner Color Guard forward March present the colors will the audience please repeat the pledge of allegiance of Al to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for it stands one nation under God indivisible witht andice for all post the colors Color
133Guard dismissed the audience may be seated right we'll now invite um Bennett gray a student body officer to come and give us our reference dear only father father we thank thee for this day we thank you that we can have a good day today and that we ask thee that our leaders can make good decisions and that we can all be grateful for to be here we thank thee for a wonderful day in the name of Jesus Christ amen thank you Bennett all right now for our celebrating schools we have mcken Hansen a student body officer um and chenel Maya who will be performing a musical selection entitled Journey To The Past from Anastasia how exciting all right go ahead and come on up hello President George board members superintendent Godfrey and Mr Larsson I'm
134McKenzie Hansen a proud member of Mountain Creek Student Government I love Mountain Creek Middle School it is an accommodating safe and Innovative School the great things mcms has accomplished over the past six years makes our school not only a community but a family I'd like to First give a quick overview of our school we currently have 1,36 students enrolled with 69 licensed faculty members and 48 support staff our school is a host to Chinese DLI an amazing educational support cost room and three AP programs Human Geography environmental science and Chinese with the focus on positive reinforcement our school has started multiple awesome Traditions these include our school store called the mustache no tardy parties and moose of the day month and quarter to enhance school spirit at the beginning of each year every student gets
135a new Mountain Creek t-shirt over the past four years we've done a drone photo on our field where the entire School fits into a different shape this year our students form the word grow not only do we have a fun School culture but our teachers provide great classroom experience experiences like launching bottle rockets snail labs and field trips to places like tonoga caves the Tracy Avary the state capital and Great Salt Lake Mountain Creek is home to a very impressive performing arts program last year our school performed Adam's family and it was marvelous with hard work and dedication from students teachers parents it was a successful and fun play the cast and crew worked after hours and that really proved everyone's school spirit this year's production of Anastasia is currently in the works and is
136on track for amazing performances in April every single year students participating in band Orchestra and choir get the opportunity to show off their hard work and to create beautiful music for friends and family through unified sound many of our special needs students get to join the band and Orchestra to learn how to play and perform with mentors we also have great support in our Unified sports program this year our students have competed in soccer and basketball it is really both for our athletes and the peer tutors who get to help them additionally mcms is host to some really great clubs that involve lots of students some of the clubs that are happening right now are are math club book club DND D Club chess club improv Club guitar Club pickleball Club Nintendo switch Club Riding
137Club and new this year a crochet Club these clubs give students a chance to meet new people learn new things and have fun with the activities they enjoy we also have thriving choose kind say something PTSA and student government groups that allow students to develop leadership and make a difference this December we celebrated our winter fundraiser that we call Moose Wonderful Time of the Year on top of raising $6,279 even more fun and exciting events in the future please come and see what we have going on thank you for your time and now here's a sneak peek from Anastasia by Chanel [Applause] [Music] Maya love there was time I must have had them to I will never be complete until I find you one step at a time one hope another who knows where this
138road may go back to I was on to find my future things my heart still needs to know yes let this be a sign let this road be mine let it lead me to my P and bring me home I [Music] [Applause] wow what a treat thank you there's certainly is allowed to celebrate at Mountain Creek Middle School I would love to invite any of the parents or faculty who are here supporting Mountain Ridge Middle or Mountain Creek Middle School to stand up all right and then students will you join them it is easy to see there's a lot of good happening in this school all right we would love to invite the students to come up just start at the end and give us an opportunity to shake your hand we also have a
139little gift for you so don't forget to grab that on your way come on forward thanks for coming today nice to meet you grab a pen wow that was amazing grab a p if you want you moose that's so cool thank you very much that's a great swag thank you thank you again students and faculty parents uh we love having you here and you are absolutely welcome to stay for the meeting but we want you to know that you are not obligated to stay so we're sure you have lots of good things to do okay let's go ahead and move into our um resolutions of appreciation whereas dedicated service to Jordan School District was faithfully and effectively performed whereas they consistently and conscientiously executed their responsibilities with Integrity honesty and loyalty be it therefore resolved
140that the Jordan School District Board of Education and District administration declare appreciation for the outstanding service that was performed in the cause of public education and hereby express our sorrow at the death of these valued friends Mark montigue teacher counselor and administrator Shane Reed Thomas custodian and Tradesman thank you you all right let's move into board recognitions anyone have anything they'd like to share I do okay so um Olivia Murphy from Majestic Elementary um Arts Academy was awarded the outstanding Elementary music teacher for the state of Utah by Utah music educators Association and I just want to um read some of the things that um her principal said about her and then I want to read part of her nomination from one of her colleagues so um Olivia has outstanding classroom management skills and she
141has an amazing ability to write and compose music she has a positive impact on reading scores through focusing on meaningful interactions with text in her classroom using lyrics and poetry she also works works with small reading groups sometimes even during her planning or lunchtime she extensively studies data to know which students need support so that she can focus on helping them both in class and in tutoring and then um her one of her colleagues uh Lisa blet the other music teacher at Majestic Elementary um put this on her nomination oh Miss Murphy will you come stand at the podium so we can all see you and recognize you thank you this right here this is the outstanding Elementary music teacher for the state of Utah thank you thank you for being here too of course
142you're so nice Okay Okay and now I will read what her colleague Lisa blet said um Olivia is such an inspirational music teacher I have worked with her for four years and am in awe of the things that she continually comes up with our school became a Magnet School for the Arts four years ago Olivia began teaching at Majestic that first year of the Arts Academy the school was in need of a new school song and Olivia composed a new song for the school and taught it to all the students they sing it with pride and joy at all our school assemblies and spring concerts and it has been stuck in my head today um Olivia teaches music foundations to kindergarten through third grade students in the second year of the arts program it was
143very apparent all the hard work she had done with the third grade class the year before they started band in fourth grade with a solid foundation on Rhythm reading and notation which 98% of the students the pre previous year did not have this gave our students a big boost in learning to play an instrument in fourth grade and made it easier for the students Olivia composes almost all of the songs that she uses in class to teach her students the main reason is to help integrate The Core Curriculum using music to help students retain what it is they are learning the songs are so cute and the students go back to class singing them and Having learned something important an example I'd like to share which is the Norm for Olivia is she heard a
144teacher talking about trying to figure out how to teach her class about time Olivia went home and composed a song then used it in class that week to help the students learn and remember the things the teacher wanted the students to learn she is always helping her fellow teachers out she has also composed songs to help students learn letter names and sounds in kindergarten and blends in first grade Olivia even had has her classes help compose and then sing and play songs in class from the things they are learning about her winter and spring concerts follow a theme and the students are invested in helping compose songs for those events also Olivia earned an Arts indorsement last year to further develop her knowledge about all the art forms and to assist her colleagues in arts
145integration during the music classes she offered Great Sound Advice and I like that great sound ADV and helped other teachers with their projects Olivia took time and taught two Afterschool classes last year helping students to learn how to play the ukulele and recorder she helps lead our school in excellence and this year she is even teaching guitar and my daughter is in her after school guitar class so thank you and I I anyway I wish everybody could hear the amazing songs that Olivia writes and her students help her write and they perform can we all give Miss Murphy a big a hand and also could you say a few words about of course um you're all invited to our concerts anytime um and I believe all of you got an invitation for our art show
146this coming month I mean it's going to be amazing um this award is such an honor but a big reason is because of my amazing team at school and the sport I have from my Administration maryan Johansson and my teammates and the collaboration with my teachers um and how we integrate the Arts to grow our students growth and proficiency and their engagement um it's amazing so personal invitation along with your physical invitation to come see what our kids are doing and how the Arts and integration is really helping our school um thank you for this Lisa thank you thank you before you head to now sorry please feel free to applaud but we would love to shake the hand of the most outstanding arts teacher in Utah so if you'll come on down thank you
147so okay can I jump in please all right I am very pleased um to kind of make my first big recognition I would like to invite uh our Bingham High School cheer team to come up to the front and all of their coaches please make your way to the front um the the Bingham high cheer you may have already heard but we still wanted to acknowledge them and congratulate them they went to the state competition on January 22nd and won first place and then they went to Nationals on February 7th through the 10th and also won first place and we are so proud of them I wanted to recognize uh the coaches Amber Thomas Taylor Davis Curtis Fineman Megan Bolter Elena Woodburry and Brook Brooklyn Eldridge and then also the team captains Joselyn Peterson Jensen
148bunkle uh Avery or Cammy Reynolds and Ember goodle and we are just so proud of you um we would like to shake your hands as well there's so many of you but we love it um and you can take a pin as well and if you guys would like like a picture with the board we can do that but if there's too many totally understand Aaron can I add something in yes of course they're not done yet they still we approved as a board that they can go to the world's is that right International competition so they have one more Championship to bring home so good job don't break the tradition one's all around so come on up here and we will shake your hands you can grab a pin for your beautiful jackets you've
149got there congratulations exciting thanks for being here tonight J [Music] congratulations good [Music] job good job congratulations this is a big group congratulations good job grab a pin if you forgot congratulations good job good job congratulations all right thanks for being here tonight good J congratulations good job congratulations good job conat congrat congratulations congratulations don't forget your job congratulations blue or black congratulations J job congratulations good job good job congratulations congratulations conratulations oh my gosh I'm so sorry I that is Sani not thank you so much thanks for having us thank you for coming okay we would love to take a picture with you so if you want to file right here we know we don't need to pose the cheerleaders they've got this wow we got through a lot of pins there yes well
150no okay and just to while we're getting organized I understand that you already won worlds is that what I just heard that that is amazing congratulations how many times can you say you're the master of the world said that's well they told me you're okay we go [Applause] okay I'd like to make a recognition also more years than I can remember um I was a high school wrestler I wrestled actually in junior high and High School junior high wrestled uh weight class 66 in the ninth grade and I graduated from high school wrestling 98 so as a little small kid I do remember one day when a girl showed up and she wrestled me for varsity and she won I will admit that and so I am super pleased to know that we have a
151girl's wrestling program and a boy's wrestling program um and I'll tell you a couple weeks ago I had an opportunity to go and watch Mountain Ridge um wrestle against Herman and these ladies uh are top-notch they are so good and it was one of the most enjoyable events um that I was able to attend all year just watching just how how skilled they are great great athletes and it gives them um a great activity to participate in the cool thing is that Mountain Ridge went on to win the state championship this year and I just wanted to recognize and and bring um coach Burch up and uh Brandon will you come up bring your team and can you just give us some lad out of what how your team performed and and tell us about
152your state championship okay so first off I do have a little story so a little over 23 years ago I was in high school and was able to throw a pie at my vice principal um um who is now sitting right over here superintendent Godfrey so just in commemoration of that day okay I have a banana cream pie for him are you going to throw it [Laughter] too [Laughter] ban I I think you're missing your assistant coach your assistant coach needs to come on up assistant coaches come on up we have a couple of them here today awesome so this has been a very special year uh we started our program four years ago uh and we started it from scratch um so some of the girls that were on that team were freshmen and
153they're seniors now and they've kind of helped build the program up so this year was a special year just because uh I've been with these girl a lot of these girls for three and four years now and for them to be able to um step up and uh remain committed because wrestling is a hard sport um but just kind of be the leaders in what's now the fastest growing sport in America um and to be able to take State we we've we've accomplished so many things this year um we've won 512 matches okay which is over a 60% winning percentage individually um we are now two-time defending undefeated region Champs we won divisionals we took State um and it's all because of the dedication of everybody that's standing beside me um we've gone through some
154some hard times some good times um even just the lounging on the on the mats talking and chatting bus rides home after long 12-hour tournaments sometimes we're sleeping sometimes we're singing but it just been an awesome ride um and these girls deserve every every bit of recognition that that they they deserve it they've worked so hard all year and my you know hat goes off to them these these girls are amazing so and you have an individual St state champion right yep she is she is actually wrestling right now figures yeah so she's on our our Utah national team so she's she's wrestling right now along with a couple of our others um what's so we can recog Olivia Marino awesome J okay we have a couple others that took second place her sister Gabby
155uh who is signed with Utah Tech so she'll be wrestling for Utah Tech in the fall and Olivia will probably um sign with a team here soon she's got lots of lots of offers that are available to her as well as some others uh we had 14 girls plac in state um I'm not going to not going ra their hands for that yeah so if you if you placed in state raise your hand we have another second Placer over here Faith Bowen but we did really well this year 14 placers uh is an amazing amazing accomplishment so congratulations thank you can you come and meet the board and then we'd like to get a picture of you guys after too all right go shake their hands and Shing congratulations grab a pen if you'd like
156congratulations congratulations grab a pen good job good job congratulations take a p make you take a pin congratulations yeah take one of these pins congratulations good job take a pin congratulations take a pin if you'd like are you going to play football blue or black thanks for coming tonight take a pen if you'd like job coach congratulations how fun to see you congratulations hey feel free to grab P for the girls that are wrestling too we would love to make sure they have what they have a pin you want blue we've got blue and black good is there a gold is a there might have been one random okay awesome and that one's very clean cat congratulations what an amazing accomplishment I just put hand sanitizer handshake you'll ever have saw number one well done
157that's awesome barely I just have to say those grips were pretty strong on those hand Saks right I love it good job ladies thank you so much for coming tonight and letting us uh cheer you on we're so proud of you again same offer applies your welcome to stay we've got some interesting bids but if you've got homework we understand all right any other recognitions could I give one more um so I wanted to recognize the health and wellness day that Jordan School District did earlier this month and um they provided so many wonderful classes and opportunities for our teachers and um superintendent Godfrey uh encouraged us to go and participate but a lot of them you know there was limited uh spots so I didn't want to take a limited spot so I was
158able to go to a class that was like open for everyone you didn't need a ticket and it was right down the street from me at Majestic Elementary and it was a bali ex kind of dance aerobic class top by Stephanie Clancy who's the PE teacher there at Majestic and it was so much fun and Stephanie is amazing and she was so energetic and just cheering us all on even if we didn't get the steps down and it was just so much fun so I was grateful for the opportunity uh that I had to go to that so if I can I'll just add one uh we've had the opportunity over the last couple of weeks to spend some time on the hill and uh we had our SBO day on the hill it was
159so fun to see the class and the caliber that they represented our district with they did a great job and I wanted to give a special thank you to those legislators who took the time to come and spend time with us who invited our students to sit with them on the floor and a a special shout out to representative Tracy Miller our very own will always claim her who gave our students a little moment of Spotlight on the legislative floor so all right what a fun recognition time thank you so much board members for paying close attention to the Great accomplishments that are happening in our schools all right let's go to superintendent recognitions Jason Skidmore the director of CTE yes first I want to comment on some of I lik the delivery method of
160the pie better this time he tells the truth he lifted me off the ground with that it was it was it was memorable and it was really fun actually and what a blast to see him and his dad and and the team there um and if you haven't heard the gingerbread song from uh Majestic it's incredible I could not believe that she wrote that it was it was so good and I had such fun doing a podcast with the Bingham cheer team before they had taken State and taken Nationals and that National performance will be on ESPN coming up I'll let you know when that is but they'll be broadcasting that closer to spring break so very exciting for all our our different groups so um but today let us celebrate CTE month with CTE
161director Jason Skidmore come on up to the microphone and let's recap a bit of uh what's been happening this month there are always great things happening in CTE get set up here just one moment I'll also say that the most popular podcast episodes are CTE episodes always yes you should say that so all right President George um members of the Board of Education superintendent Godfrey Mr Larson thank you for letting me be here to celebrate as we kind of close out this uh CTE month um I think it was yeah it was one month ago we stood here and and and did a little kickoff celebration and there have been so many incredible things that have happened over this month and as superintendent mentioned there are many incredible things that happen every day every month
162so to to be able to pause and celebrate during this one month is is is is kind of a great honor for us so thank you for letting me just spend a few moments to celebrate some of the things that have been happening and some of the greater things that happen um in CTE I first want to thank um my staff that are here tonight CT consultant Julie Scherzinger and principal Sonia uh Burton for um here at the at the JC for for their tireless work I also put a shout out to all of our specialists our CT coordinators and to the many other staff and CT teachers that we have across the district for um the great things that they are doing this little word um Wordle I think is what call those um
163just kind of is a snapshot of some of the things that have happened in our middle schools and ele and our high schools during the month of CTE some of the the spotlights the ctso competitions the guest speakers um our ctsos have participated and are just kicking off their season of of competing the service projects um the many opportunities that are students have had to pause and celebrate the things that are going on as you know um CTE has a place and it's had a place in Jordan School District also in the state of Utah and in our nation for a long time but in Jordan School District we've had a very strong history of of career in technical education and that the purpose of that is that students not only get the academic and
164rigor and the the knowledge and training but they get the technical skills that go along with that and opportunities to use their hands to figure out what they want to do and what they like to do and to become lifelong Learners in the process we use this um illustration quite often we talk about the career in technical education that many of us may be used to as high school students and as Mr Robinson suggested many years ago or a few years ago we were high school students and um it was many it was it was many um then it was vocational education and you can see how we've had a shift from then to now we use this and the shift has been occurring for many years but the reality is that CTE today is
165um is for all students it for all careers and that list as you know goes on and on for the opportunities that the students have and I'll talk about some of those in a minute vocational education has made a big shift and we have the opportunity to produce um great students who move forward into great careers and have the opportunity to become um well-versed and well skilled in their areas of expertise this list looks a lot different from the vocational education that many of us May may have known many years ago you can see that in the state of Utah and in Jordan School District there are 14 career clusters and within those clusters are 32 Pathways the opportunities are endless um and they are wide and they are varied and things that may have
166not considered as career and Tech as vocational education are now considered as an important part of our CTE programs what I love about this is that in Jordan School District we continue and you continue to support what we would have known as the traditional trades those are so important to our economy they are so important to the Future and they are important to our students but at the same time we've been able to expand into areas like cyber security into programming into web development into natural resources into energy and the list goes on for the opportunities that students have and I am proud and proud to stand here with you for your support and not only continuing um to help us Advance into new areas but also to remain true and strong to the trades
167and the the programs that that kind of build our economy and our nation to kind of give you an idea so we have all those courses and all those programs that are available um CT our CT program programs go through a bit of a rigorous process um a program approval is to ensure that we're not only following the guidelines that are set out but that we're meeting the mandates that are both federally and and state um mandated we recognize during this process they recognize programs for their individual strengths and also to identify areas where we might continue to grow this diagram points out those areas that constantly my staff and I are looking at to determine are we providing the programs that are are fit and are best for our c for our students here
168in Jordan School District you can see the indicators of looking at graduation rates at academic Proficiency in math language arts reading and science I'd like to shout out right now that is one of the things that initiatives that we've begun and will continue on is is we have every one of our middle schools um that has a team that's that's initiated by CTE that is focusing on on those core subjects to make sure that all of our students whether they're in an academic course or a CTE course are getting the basic skills that they need when it comes to our CT programs we monitor what happens to our students as they leave High School do they go on to college do they go into a trade school do they go into the military or do
169they go into the career and that happens on a yearly basis we also monitor very closely the non-traditional program enrollment are we looking for opportunities for our diverse Learners are we looking for opportunities in career fields that might predominantly be male or female and we're looking at ways that we can encourage students to explore opportunities outside of their area one of the great successes is at Copper Hills High School where we have an automotive class that has been traditionally um a traditional area that most men or boys will take um Copper Hills has implemented a a program in which um 90% of one of their classes is is females and um they're having great success and and females are finding their place in a non-traditional career pathway and we see that happening in many areas
170computer programming um automotive autoc collision um and any of our engineering programs we're starting to see some of those shifts throughout this entire process we do our best to ensure that our programs are are approved and I can proudly say that every one of our schools including our virtual schools which has been an undertaking for the past three years to get them program approved that all schools in Jordan School District as you see up on the screen have approved programs that are federally and state approved meaning they're offering quality programs they're offering rigorous programs and students are having great success because of the teachers that we have in place kind of with that in mind um to kind of the makeup of CTE there are 322 teachers staff administrators classroom assistants um this is the
171makeup of the the population that works with our CTE students in Jordan District we offer 260 unique Career and Technical education courses and of those 260 121 of them offer some type of college credit um and that's attributed to our great instructors who have the skill set and the ability um education or training to be able to offer those courses to our students really making our students not only career ready but also College ready one of the terms that we often see in you know in CTE is a is a concentrator and a completer and in short a concentrator is a student who takes um at least two courses in a CTE pathway and a completer is a student who takes at least three or more courses um in a CTE pathway last year our
172most recent number 177,000 students were enrolled in CTE courses you can see that one of the impressive things about our students who take at least two CTE courses they graduated at a much higher rate and you can see that listed on the screen to kind of back up and and where CTE begins um Career and Technical C from an official stand and a course or from course perspective um students begin at the seventh grade and this is the CCA or the College and Career awareness course 4,927 7th graders take this course where they test their abilities they learn skills they think about the pathways that are important to them um and they focus on um areas that they might want to pursue as they as they begin their secondary education throughout the process students in
173Jordan School District also have the opportun opportunity to earn credentials or credentials of value is and there are two ways they can do that there are a number of Industry certifications and there are also Utah CTE skill certifications last year 16,7 N9 credentials of value um were earned you can see the top industry certifications you can also um very proud of with the work that our teachers do as they administer these certifications um they both contain not only a knowledge component but they also contain a performance so students have to achieve and show that they can perform the skill that's meat for the industry I mentioned earlier that we're in CTE we're preparing students for for college not only career last year 10,47 CTE credit or college credits were earned in CTE um providing a
174a rigorous experience whether it's college credit or industry standard is important for all of our CTE teachers I mentioned earlier that um CTE traditionally begins in the in the seventh grade but to create awareness CT program and and through our work-based learning um uh coordinators and Specialists We Begin that focus in the elementary school we provide a number of different resources um to our teachers and to the counselors at the elementary level um begins on in middle school and can final izes as they get into the high school program just to give you a bit of a sense of the work that our that our team does when it comes to creating awareness exploration and Capstone programs last year 33 um different activities were held in the elementary school um through the kids Marketplace and
1752,774 students participated we have a career poster campaign that happens it changes monthly in every Middle School school or sorry Elementary cafeteria where students have opportunities to to see a new career to see what related careers um they have their activities do during the lunch hour where they can can learn about those talk about them and the counselors continue to use those the opportunities continue on as we go into through middle school and into high school and last year we had um just over a thousand students 1150 students that participated in some type typ of externship internship or um a clinical experience depending on their their area our students are engaging with the community and our industry is engaging with us I would also mention and you're familiar with um if you're not hopefully you
176are career in technical student organizations their ctso competitions there are eight of them each of these are related to a an area of study and our students in Jordan School District um compete at a very high level participate at an even higher level um with 35 members to to lead the state and the number of students who participate in these leadership and service organizations we just started the ctso competition and um the DECA students went last week and participated in their state competition and um we traditionally um send anywhere between 200 and 250 students to the national competition across all of the CTE areas and we'll get you that information as we as we get there um but I want to wrap up with with two last things I mentioned that our industry is connecting
177um with with us currently we have 20 active advisory boards and this is due to the work that our team has done um over the last year and a half in building even stronger boards we have 95 active business partners meaning active they they attend a board meeting an advisory meeting they they work in the classroom they engage students they invite students and teachers into their business areas of business um and they work closely side by side with our teachers to ensure they not only have the skills but also the resources part of that we work with 11 of our highered institutions to create Pathways so students as they leave High School um they have an opportunity and know who to go to when they get to the next level I will end on two
178last things about how we invest in the future as you know we are constantly looking at new programs um whether that be at a high school or middle school a high school or here at a technical center um last year we started two new programs cyber security and construction both of those programs filled on day one when it comes to technical centers we've also started our teaching um embedded our our education pathway into our high schools um which has opened up more opportunities for students than they would have here at the traditional tech center we're constantly looking at technology and how we can improve and grow currently we have 87 um computer labs across business marketing uh it digital studies and TV and film and Engineering so we we do our best to make sure
179that in those areas um all those programs have the things that they need we invest in our teachers every year we take a team of teachers who are to present at a National Conference I'm proud to say that last year um this last December we took a a team of teachers and one team presented and presented on how they use AI in the classroom and you might be surprised that this was our Automotive our automotive and auto collision instructors that presented at the conference in San Antonio on using on the use of AI I'm very proud of our teachers I'm proud of what they do I'm proud of what they bring to the classroom and they're always looking they're always looking for ways to make things better for students um finally I'll say that our
180one of our biggest challenge but with your support we've been able to to bring industry standard equipment to our students um you would be surprised I know many of you have visited our many of our programs not only at the tech centers but our high schools our students are working with industry- level equipment it's your support and your work um and the way that you help us grow our programs that we're able to provide some incredible tools and opportunities on an ongoing basis to our students with that I'll say that CTE does produce results and I hope that you'll be as proud as I am with the work that is done um in our CTE classrooms CTE not only provides the Hands-On approach skill um certifications introductions into careers but it also helps our students
181with with what we call durable skills or soft skills how to how to show up on time how to behave when they get to work how to be a responsible employee um CTE is one of the best Dropout prevention programs students come to their CTE programs because they want to be there they want to learn a skill and they want to be able to be active in their Community um we know that students that take CTE courses will often um pursue at a higher level whether it's in a career whether it's going on to some further training training whether that be one two or four years of training and we're very proud of what we do in Jordan School District and I thank you for letting me take this time to celebrate thank you superintendent
182for um for this time and I appreciate all that you do to help us so thank [Applause] you thank you Jason he has a team of people here with him as well and and CTE is a real point of pride in Jordan District we've done a great job for a long time and as Mr Skidmore pointed out it's it's the teachers who are very passionate about providing an incredible opportunity for students so it's ever expanding ever improving and it's it's one of the best things about education in Jordan can I make a comment um first of all I love your open houses I was a to come a couple weeks to go visit both campuses and just every time I go like it's expanded even more you know it's just so cool but um I
183I just wanted to inform the board BR I've been around for a while um early on we had an innovation committee and we really looked at for innovative ways that we could save money in education um specifically we ran around the country and we looked at Innovative schools and what we could bring to our district that we didn't have and the the results really was what we already have our CTE were phenomenal in helping to save cost if you took everyone in our CTE programs and our online school especially if you added them in that's about the size of a high school and if we had to build a high school we shut those programs down had to build a high school that would be over $200 million and we can look at all the
184trickle down class so these programs are not only fantastic in helping students have choice in education and Innovative opportunities and preparing them for career in colleges but they also are significantly saving us money and saving taxpayers money and that's why I wholeheartedly support these programs but I just wanted to let the board know that we have studied this and looked at this and this is a phenomenal way direction in which we're going and any opportunities to help support these programs I'm fully on board thank you so much for being here talk about education Choice that's pretty impressive the ways that you can reach students who need a different environment to be successful in the proof is in the pudding look at the numbers so congratulations all right we'll now move into our public comment session
185section of the meeting uh the Board of Education encourages public engagement we value input from our residents students and employees the board will not take public comment on Personnel issues or statements regarding the character professional competence or physical or mental health of an individual during board meetings if you have concerns to that end please send um individual emails to board members the comments need to stay age appropriate the board does not discuss issues that are not on the meeting's agenda the board may ask St have to follow up on issues raised or may address them at a future meeting and remember that Silence by the board on an issue does not suggest support or opposition to the messages given the board will take public comment at this time on items not listed on the agenda
186in-person comments will be heard first followed by comments received electronically both inperson and emailed comments can last a maximum of 3 minutes so please try to be respectful of that time when you're called to the podium please state your name so we have a few people who have signed up to give comment tonight so we'll first invite Melanie Canik to the podium and on Deck will be Kelly Wood all right I'd like to thank the board for your service in your time tonight um my name is Melanie Kik and I'm the team lead for the motor development team and I've been in OT with the district for 6 16 years um I'm here tonight to request a review of the occupational and physical therapy salary schedule um in hopes of retaining the skilled and experienced
187therapists that currently work for our district Jordan Jordan employs 20s and 12 pts of those therapists 12 serve the 0 to3 population in early intervention six therapists exclusively serve the students within karisu Hamilton school and 14 itinerant therapists serve the remaining 66 schools within the district I'd like to introduce you to some of the therapists and will'll ask those who were able to attend the meeting to stand uh otmpt are federally mandated Services through idea students who require and receive OT or PT do so under an ifsp IEP or 504 plan OT and PT work together with other professions in the schools and medical community to evaluate students velop a plan of care and provide direct and consultative services to promote access and participation in the educational setting for a child who lacks the physical
188ability to participate in the same way as they're typically developing peers OT and PT support students in developing the functional skills um and the physical requirements to do so at times there may be barriers to gaining these skills our role then involves recommending specific accommodations such as assistive technology or environmental modifications which allows the child the ability to access and participate in fape alongside their peers OTS and PTs are employed in a variety of settings including hospitals rehab centers outpatient clinics Home Health early intervention and schools those of us who are employed in school-based or early intervention settings choose to be here because of our love for children and the impact we feel we can provide during the years of greatest development we chose to work for Jordan for varying reasons including the positive culture
189the exceptional special education programs and the opportunity to provide Direct Services to students as the lead of the motor development team I have seen the impact experience has on it on the ability to accelerate student progress as well as a students as a therapist overall productivity although Jordan has somewhat competitive pay for firste therapists by year five Jordan is the lowest paying District among the surrounding comparable districts through year 35 and Beyond I feel confident I can speak for our team when I describe the dedication we feel for the students within the district unfortunately given the current economy the love we have for the work we do can't continue to compensate for the reduced pay indefinitely I ask you to please consider a salary adjustment to invest in our current experienced therapists if this experience
190is lost the district risks needing to hire more therapists to provide the same level of care we are current currently able to provide thank you thank you very much we'll now hear from Kelly Wood and Janet Sanders is on Deck good evening my name is Kelly Wood and I am an occupational therapist with the motor development team I have been in OT with Jordan School District for 20 years many of the therapists who have chosen to work for Jordan have known for many years that the compensation is lower than what they able to receive outside the school setting unfortunately significant changes to the cost of living in our area improved compensation for our professions and ultimately Jordan's pay falling short in comparison to surrounding districts have all made this Choice more difficult the gap between
191Jordan and other districts has only continued to widen among since I first compiled data that was presented during the 2223 school year Melanie and I recently had the opportunity to meet with Dr rrey who can further elaborate at a later time on our discussion regarding the salary disparity the full analysis can be referenced in an email that you should have received many of the therapists currently employed by Jordan District have greater than 15 years of experience with this District I specify this experience because of the value that it is to the given the federal mandate that we work under and the critical role that we play in helping children access and participate in their education School taught us the book knowledge to be an OT or a PT in my experience however a new therapist
192does not come out of a graduate school with the ability to efficiently implement the knowledge in a setting as unique as this schools are the only setting where a therapist a therapist's client if you will could include upwards of 10 different people therapists new to the profession often lack the experience and confidence required to effectively articulate to other professionals and parents our role and what level of services support will result in the highest educationally relevant outcome for a student this communication is vital to the success of the collaborative I IEP team process the process of qualifying kids providing the necessary interventions to help them be successful and then decreasing the level of support as appropriate is what allows our team to remain the lowest therapist FTE to student ratio of all surrounding districts we are
193currently at a Tipping Point we have the chance to retain highly skilled and qualified therapists if we can Infuse the money into the ca of holding on to their experience this investment will allow us to maintain momentum to continue providing the highest quality of services while maintaining the lowest FTE possible as a therapist who has dedicated my career to the children within Jordan District I am here to make a direct plea to you to improve the salary compensation for the therapists who are employed in Jordan while it may not be possible to have our therapists be the highest highest paid we are requesting that the OT and the PT salary be competitive and reflect the district's desire to retain the very best highly skilled and knowledgeable therapists who have the ability to effectively and efficiently
194support the students within Jordan School District thank you hey Janet Sanders up next and then Wendy Barrett on Deck hello my name is Janet Sanders I'm a Jordan School District parent teacher and the president of the Jaa as you know I'm here tonight to thank the board for your support of our association I feel that we have a relationship that has been valuable to us both over the years it is a relationship I would like to see continue even in the face of recent legislation including HB 267 although this legislation does prevent present roadblocks they are not insurmountable we can continue most elements of our relationship if you have the desire to do so Hattie's research tells us that an Effective Teacher in every classroom is the number one contributor to Student Success our work
195together has helped attract and retain this kind of educator through the years we've made many accomplishments together that have benefited Jordan Educators and students J Jaa has an effective and efficient system for communicating the needs and desires of teachers to the district and the board we help educate on policies and pro and procedures we work collaboratively to solve problems and address policies that need revision together we have been ahead of the rest of the state when it comes to policies including maternity leave annual versus sick leave full hourly pay for the extra 32 hour and of course our cell phone policy we have re rewarded our career Educators with an extra step we have worked together to provide the best insurance coverage at the best cost that we can we have negotiated compensation that has
196kept the district competitive and attractive in today's job market I look forward to continuing our productive relationship in the years to come please continue working with Jaa for the benefit of our Educators and students thank you thank you so Wendy burret and then Colette memt on Deck hello I was here a month ago representing some of the speech language Pathologists in our district and it's a little serendipitous that our OTS and PTs were here I didn't actually know they were going to come but we are their teammates in the federally mandated ie P process there are a lot more of us in the district there's usually one to every school or one to every two schools um and we have the same Federal mandate as they do to um to follow the regulations of idea
197and um we are not only struggling to keep experienced staff but to hire to begin with we constantly have openings every meeting we have with our speech language Pathologists our does anybody know who's looking for a job we need to find someone we need to find someone um so we've come up with a few suggestions we've looked at what other districts are doing and some of the options are um to pay at a master's plus 30 level just because of the requirements of our master's degree that are a little bit more intense um to pay for board certification some districts do that we've also looked at how teachers in the secondary level can sell their prep and take on an extra class and if slps are willing to take on extra case load where we're
198short staffed considering paying them in that way um with this in the same way that a teacher would pay for get paid for teaching an extra class um another option would be to put us on the otpt and psychology scale which matches more with our field and what we do we also have the opportunity to work in Hospitals and Clinics and outside places so that's another competition that the schools have to hire um slps they're competing not only with other school districts but with other settings Alto together so anyways thank you for your time and I appreciate your consideration and have a great night what was your name again Wendy Barrett and I'm and I want to say go moose that's one of my schools I cover is Mountain Creek middle so I just want
199to know if you've ever been to the mustache that's the most clever name all right Colette memt good evening board I am Colette memt I am a teacher at Sunset Ridge Middle I teach math and I'm also vice president of the Jaa I would like to Echo every word that Janet Sanders has said and I just want to tell you thank you for the cell phone policy what a difference it has made in my classroom I very rarely have to even talk to a child now about their cell phone they know it's going to go away or it's going to be gone and it has been lifechanging in my classroom and in my colleagues classrooms I also want to thank you for the 32 hours of um additional pay that you give us at our
200our um hourly rate rather than at inservice rate and I just really appreciate the support that you have given the teachers in this District thank you are there any emailed comments okay anyone else who wanted to speak tonight but didn't see the sign up oh please come up make sure you tell us your name hi I'm Amy llo I'm another speech language pathologist at Jordan District yay um I spoke last month as well with Wendy um I'm just echoing what she's saying um for a couple of years I've been trying to advocate for higher pay mainly for recruitment um just like the private sector would do is there's a supply problem and a demand problem and if we can give better pay we can help with that need um we are really dedicated um I
201we we love our job there's a very passionate thread that runs through slps and slts who are um helping us meet our case load minutes um but it's really heartbreaking to me when I Mentor somebody for years and then they leave because of pain um because they can't pay for child care for example so help me help them stay um because it's great that's it thank you thank you all right that concludes our uh public comment um thank you for being here and we will not be offended if you need to slip out but you are welcome to stay we love having you all right uh let's move on to our G General business I'll accept a motion to approve the consent agenda items I move that we approve the consent agenda items a b
202and c second right we have a motion by Miss Dean and a second by Mr Barnett to approve the consent agenda items a b and c all in favor say I I I and any opposed right that motion passes I'll now accept a motion for to accept the consent agenda I move that we accept the consent agenda a b c d and e second I have a motion by Miss Dean a second by Mr Barnett to accept the consent agenda items a through e all in favor say I I and any opposed say n great I will now accept motions for bids but let's take these one at a time we have some pretty big items on here I'll move that we accept the bid for the District administration new furniture at Jordan Learning Center
203I'll second it great we have a second by Mr Barnett and I'm sorry a motion by Mr Barnett a second by Dr Robinson for new furniture at the Jordan Learning Center apparently not Jmart anymore so um is that just a temporary name or have we named it that's what we're calling it at this point if the board wants to name it beyond that you can certainly do that but the Jordan Learning Center has kind of stuck after we unstuck jart I was thinking the doct Godfrey sound same are you willing to make the appropriate donation I'm just kidding yeah not quite I'm saving up all right any discussion to that motion I was hoping someone could address the maybe the one of the last sentences of the justification letter it says we have made every
204effort to balance good quality with fair prices and take advant vage of all available discounts maybe just Briefly summarize what was done yes I'd be happy to and I got elected to be the person that represents all of those people that are on that justification letter and Kurt may be able to help me a little bit too so to that um question specifically when and this is this is my understanding when we opened Junior per Elementary so just this last fall um they did the majority of their Furniture was all purchased through workspace elements using Han furniture and they extended a discount to the district as a whole for a period of time that if we bought other pieces of furniture through this Han through Han that they would give a significant discount to the
205purchase and so because we were sort of writing on the end of that purchase we were able to get a significant discount on the furniture that was purchased because of that offered discount if that makes sense so the quality was good we met with principles who had used their furniture and knew that we were getting good quality Furniture but we also able to take advantage of that period of time that we could get that extended discount for that okay so I just wanted add on the audio record that people in the district are interested in qual and not just quality but they're also interested in discounts and and finding finding the best price anytime we can get a coupon we are happy so yes any other questions that I can help with we we actually
206again representing all of those folks that were on the letter just want to say thank you for your support for this project there's a lot of people that are really excited and anxious to move into this building so thank you I got one more question um so furn this seems early for furniture are we ahead of schedule to get this open when do we have a Target date or I part of the reason that we're early on furniture is because of that discount so there were time frames that they would allow us to ride on the coattails of that discount and so if we wanted to start as soon as the bid was approved for the building so that we could get in on that time frame and not miss out on that opportunity to
207save a good chunk of money perfect thank you yeah thank you can I ask if that furniture like are we going to have to store it until it's ready or no are they keep it in yeah one of one of the qualifications for the companies that we looked at that had the state contracts that provided the furniture was if they offered that we would be able to purchase it but then they would store it and hold on to it and have it all ready to go and bring it in and work with construction to be able to help install it and get it all set up um as part of the final building you know construction but we don't have to have a place to store it thank you yeah any others okay thank you
208thank you any other discussion all right seeing none all in favor please say I I I and any opposed okay motion carries all right up next we have um oh I'll accept a motion I move that we accept the bid for the chiller replacement for West Jordan high school I'll second thank you we have a motion by Miss Dean a second by Mr Barnett to accept the bid for the chiller replacement for West Jordan High School any discussion to that motion I did have a question that I forgot to ask in study session um because we are looking at uh renovating West Jordan High School uh will the chiller that we put in um be affected by those Renovations thank you no it won't we'll be able to keep that separate most of that is
209in the boiler room and in the yard uh between the chillers and the cooling tower so it'll just be a piece that'll be already taken care of thank you and if we didn't do it now we'd have to do it then oh for sure any other discussion I am super happy about this I would say probably about 10% of all correspondents I have received as a member of the Jordan School District board of education has been about the HVAC system at West Jordan high school so so I am very and my sister teaches there and she she's pretty direct about this to me well she'll appreciate your motion okay all those in favor of approving the bid for Chiller replacement for West Jordan High School please say I I I and any oppose say Nate
210motion passes can we do CN D together can I move that we approve item bid item C and D for the stadium lighting audiovisual upgrades at both Copper Hills High School and West Jordan High School I second great we have a motion by Mr denford a second by Miss Dean to approve um Stadium lighting and audiovisual upgrades for Copper Hills and West Jordan high schools any discussion to the motion thank you for getting on that so quickly that's exactly why we made those budget recommendations is because we knew you would do it a lot quicker than than any other way so thank you for just jumping on that so quickly I agree I am especially excited I like Miss Dean have filled many questions about this at Copper Hills High School and it is well
211needed okay any other discussion right those in favor uh please say I I and any oppose say name great motion carries all right I'll accept a motion I move that we accept the bid for the greenhouse demolition at South Valley I second we have a motion by Miss Barrow a second by Mr denford to approve the greenhouse demolition at South Valley any discussion to that motion I'll just add on when I saw that I was like oh it's a lot to take something down but it does mention that they also will um be adding additional parking stalls parking lot pole lighting um and striping gbin cbon gutters so and they still will have a greenhouse and they still will get a smaller green GRE house is that included the additional Greenhouse in this bid it
212is yeah but but it's it's a small Greenhouse more it'd be more of an upgrade from like a residential as far as there's no heating systems or anything like that in it but it it should be sufficient for what their needs are fantastic news all in favor of the greenhouse demolition itself South Valley um please say I I I and any opposed motion carries okay accept a motion I'll make a motion that we approve the stair access at Black Ridge Elementary School I'll second okay we have a motion by Dr Robinson a second by Mr Barnett to uh improve stair access at Black Ridge Elementary School is there any discussion to the motion all right seeing none all in favor say I I and any opposed motion carries so needed accept a motion I move
213that we approve the parking lot expansion at Bingham High School option two which includes option one I'll a second it we all wanted to make this motion we have a motion by m denford and a close second by Dr Robinson that we approve the parking lot expansion at Bingham High School option two any discussion to the motion goodbye Marquee this needed to happen 20 years ago will they be moving the Marquee like are they keeping it or is it going away they'll be selling squares of the Marquee to alumni uh are you serious no I'm maybe I am now maybe that I put that into the universe help pay for the parking lot right it needs to be replaced it needs to be replaced and it sits really far in it needs to be brought
214out in a more prominent location any other discussion okay seeing none all those in favor say I I and any oppos right motion carries accept a motion I move that we appr the bid for the ATC upgrades at Riverton high school I'll second a motion by Miss Barrow and a second by Mr Barnett that we approve the ATC upgrades at Riverton High School any discussion right seeing none I'll um all those in favor please say I I and any opposed that motion passes I'm going to do this one I move that we approve the bid for the renovations at South Jordan Middle School option three which includes options one and two it's the whole package perfect I'll second it okay we have a motion by Miss Barrow a second by Dr Robinson that we approve
215Renovations at South Jordan Middle School option three um any discussion to that motion I have one quick question so we had had some recommendations to upgrade for seismic safety does this take care of all of the seismic needs at this school that we were made aware of it does yeah fantastic it's not like check one off the B off the list there we go I love it boom and many other exciting elements South Jordan's getting a nice little package here any other questions thanks Mr rostr okay all in favor of approving Renovations at South Jordan Middle School option three say I I I and any opposed great the motion carries can we do Transportation together I think we can date I I'll make the motion I'd like to make a motion that we um we
216we approve Transportation CG uh tank Replacements on school buses number number one number two transportation services for special education students and number three replacement of special education buses I second great we have a motion by Dr Robinson a second by Mr denford that we approve CNG tank replacement on school buses transportation services for special education students and the replacement of special education bus is there any discussion to that motion I did have a question on transportation services for special education students it it seemed um very expensive it go ahead I'm sorry yeah it I I found out just recently that is a very limited number of students who use the service that's correct currently we have seven students using the service so can I elaborate just a little bit and and the bid is 630
217Grand so it's 100 Grand per student is that am I understanding that correctly so it would be for per year so what we did is I worked with purchasing and we went out for an RFP for a multi-year contract so that would be um a scenario where we were we would be looking at a fiveyear so the $600,000 that you see is for a five-year total currently fiscal year to date we have spent um let me look really quick here because I think we're at about let's see 53,000 this year we started with 12 students then depending on if they move if there's a change of placement that we're able to accommodate it um then then we can do that in-house but these are just the the outlier circumstances where we have a student who
218lives on one side of the district and their school assigned to them is on the other side of the district so there we can't use Uber we can't use Lyft because they don't transport students that are under 18 years old so there are companies that are third-party vendors um we've used ever driven before in the past we've been using them for about two or three years but we felt the need to go out for an RFP because we get a discount if we start with uh if we can do a multi-year contract so that that's it does seem that would be the extent of what it would be so it we gave the we gave all of the vendors some scenarios based on our current data for students um and that was the vendor that
219was the lowest bid so I don't know that it would be $600,000 that was just the example that we gave to all of the vendors so that they could make an equivalent bid and we're comparing Apples to Apples and it's kind of it's a pay as youo thing it it is yeah so okay yep you're exactly right we pay monthly based on usage of course correct yes absolutely so it can vary we can have one to three students we can have up like I said currently we have seven we've had up to 12 thank you you're welcome how much of their services is mandated by us I mean we this not a choice that we just can yeah I mean it's it's part of fape so we do have to provide fape for the least
220restrictive environment and so the placement office um through special education will determine what where the placement uh the school placement for that student is and then if we are able to accommodate that through our transportation services inhouse we do do that every single time but there are a few unusual circumstances that we just do not have the resources to be able to provide transportation Canyon school district uses the same company to get kids up to Ala ski resort as an example because during the winter terrain you can't they they can't take school buses up there so we've known about these thirdparty vendors for quite a while um but we just thought let's go ahead and engage in a in an RFP to get a contract to see if we can get some kind of a
221cost you know kind of a discount like like Lisa was talking about and it did actually reduce the um the the fee structure for um that we were currently paying so it does work out in our favor and then there's an escalator built in each year we can opt out of it after the first year if we if there's no need to do it anymore but when I worked with purchasing we just decided let's go out for a multi-year bid fiveyear bid um because I think that's that saves our taxpayers dollars so you're at 50,000 this year yes that's quite a savings that will will incur I I think so I mean again yeah we we have ways that we we do a mileage reimbursement if the parent can can take their own kids the
222state will reimburse this mileage this is all reimbursed by the state by the way as well so we we do get we we submit that with our A1 state report it's not like it's an unfunded route any other questions seeing none um all those in favor of the motion for CNG tank replacement on school buses transportation services for special education students and replacement of special education bus please say I I and any opposed please say nay right that motion carries thank you thank you you move on to our special business item section I'll accept a motion for 7A I move that we approve the pro that we approve the proposed revisions to administrative policy DP 338 reimbursement of licensed employees elected to public office and to eliminate administrative policy DP 338b reimbursement of educational support
223professionals elected to public office I'll second it right we have a motion by Miss Dean a second by Dr Robbins uh that we approve the proposed revisions to administrative policy DP 338 reimbursement of licensed employees elected to public office and to eliminate administrative policy DP 338b reimbursement of educational support professionals elected to public office is there any discussion to that motion is is this the kind of thing that um people would give public comment on if anybody was here to give public comment on we would accept policy changes yes that's that's okay because that's what I was thinking any special business items there's we would have them not speak during the other public hour just now anyone here to speak okay all right we have a motion in a second all those in favor please
224say I I and any posts please say nay great the motion carries um let's move to our superintendent report I want to Echo what Miss Barrow said it was uh a another great health and wellness week um it the day itself I mean I say week because over time we have Swig available there are meals the week before and I will also say that the the team does a great job of making opportunities available throughout the year and we will continue to talk about ways that we can support Health and Wellness us throughout the year but it's really nice to have a day to focus on it and several board members have mentioned this to me the support from the community is really inspiring and our our team does a tremendous job there's a committee
225that meets throughout the year to prepare for this day and they pull all these resources together and not only do we have a lot of compliments from um employees and from parents who have this day to focus on health and wellness but the partners we're able to pull in thank us for having such a well-organized opportunity for them to connect with our employees so health and wellness day is also something that's mentioned frequently in our stay interviews when we interview teachers who are in their first 5 years and and ask what's going well and what we can improve they're grateful for the health and wellness day and and that's a reason that they stay so thank you for supporting that and making it possible it's really because of you that were able to do that
226and I'm very proud of the work that the team has done and the way the community comes together to support our families and our employees the fact that this touches every employee is so important and um I just can't thank you enough so good things happening and I would like to say something about that too several teachers um told me thank you for lunch on health and wellness day and I remember when the superintendent brought up um uh the possibility of the board approving money to pay for the lunch for the employees and I feel like that's really meaningful like feeding somebody shows that you care about him so anyway I I just wanted to say that several teachers have approached and said hey thanks for the lunch it was really good so they like
227apple spice Junction I was able to be there most of the day and I just really it's always like a highlight my wife always wants to go with me when we go to it and I'm just impressed with the number of visitors and I really um vendors and people in the community but I really loved putting it under a lot of the activities Under One Roof and and seeing people come together I know that logistically you had to have it another location but that was awesome and uh kudos to The Faculty members that continue to work like the jator services and those committees I mean everyone else is taking a day for themselves and they're continuing to work it was pretty impressive I I also get several email thank you I also get several emails
228every year I get emails about lunch I also get emails I got I had a picture from an assistant principal of their desk that was now clean because they had health and wellness day nothing else going on to just focus on getting their office cleared out and they felt really ready for Monday I hear that from teachers as well so um it just it it becomes whatever the day turns into whatever you need it to be and uh it's it's worked out really well I'm surprised that other districts haven't um stolen this idea from us I had one person complaining from another District that left ours that they're not they don't have it and I says that's outside of our scope but we need to just keep running with this is awesome day we have
229the blueprints if anyone needs them so thanks for the Innovation idea it's it's amazing and can I just add a thank you to parents who um also make a little bit of a sacrifice many of them with work we recognize that um that is a little bit tricky but it pays off in dividends I remember when we got married my we had some ad viice on a video and someone told my husband happy wife happy happy life and I think we could reflect that into a classroom and say when your teacher is refreshed and energized and feels valued your child receives a better education so thank you for that support do we have committee reports or is it about time to a DJ r n I think we better do some committee reports I just
230want to make sure Dr gy was done okay let's take some time for committee reports none okay I'll make a quick one then um this last couple of weeks in our um jlc meetings we were introduced to a website that I wanted to make all of you aware of it is called Utah loves public education and it is an effort on the part of many citizens and um businesses in the community who recognize the blessing that public education is in the lives of our communities and um and there are people who want to stand up and support the work that we do so I would love to invite each of you to take the opportunity to look at Utah lovesu schools.com there's a place there to sign up um to support and then other opportunities
231to help their support so that you can reach out to your legisl ERS and talk about the way that public education has blessed your community and your family um as well as other information that will help you to understand a very complicated legislative session and the way that some of the decisions that are coming off the hill are going to affect the day-to-day lives of students and employees of school districts okay that is it from me there are no other committee reports I'll take a motion I move that we adjourn second right we have a motion by Miss Dean a second by Mr Barnett um and maybe a third by a couple of other board members that we adjourn this meeting at 8:20 p.m. and we actually get to go home I think for the
232first in favor please say I and anyos we stand a Jour I can now applaud yes well done Bravo