001of Education we've been working on this forever but we are at the start of the Town side of the deliberations process and so for those who are listening on TV uh this is uh it's become an annual event where uh we have the three boards together to hear the Board of Education uh budget presentation and have a chance to ask questions um when John and I sat down to figure out what we wanted to do tonight we actually put this into two components there's a lot going on in the schools right now and we don't have many opportunities as a board of education we spend a lot of time on them but to share with the other boards some of the important things going on so the first part of the presentation I'm going to
002turn over to Dr Burrell to talk about what's going on with the new cles school where are we on some of the other big initiatives that are going on and then we will turn it over back over to me and I will do the presentation on the budget itself the budget isn't actually a pretty straightforward budget this year it's all about inflation there's a couple of other small things going on that tend to offset each other but the storyline is the cost of doing business so my goal when we get to the budget is to take it down a layer right and because talking about uh budget budgetary drivers that are inflationary it is actually quite a pretty dry presentation it's like this is what's happening and this is what what's causing it but I
003think it's important to understand a couple of the layers down what are causing the drivers what's going on with our arpa grants what's going on with CLE s you know what are the what are the savings coming from so my goal would be to take it down one layer and I will say we've given everybody their budget books um and we have we'll have multiple opportunities to I think meet with these this group in different forms over the next month as we go through budget deliberation so we would anticipate you know expect questions and look forward to questions and we expect that more questions will come as time goes on so um so this is and I we have the entire board here and we have the key leaders of the administration are also here
004in case there's questions that are going on in any particular school so so with that I'd like to turn it over to Dr Burrell to give a uh you know some insights into some of the things that are going on thank you Bob so thank you everybody welcome it's great to see everyone and uh and like Bob said um it's very important to uh acknowledge uh everybody here uh and all their effort thank the board thank the finance committee for all their great work on this and certainly the team to my to my side and behind me here the incredible Cracker Jack team we have that's put a lot of time in us the Bob will get to it but the budget process in uh on the administrative side of things starts October one and
005so we're four months into working on this budget at this point so I'm going to bring you through some of the big initiatives they're not going to have budget numbers tied to them it's going to be a bit of a story we'll walk you through and uh from there I'll turn it over to Bob like you said so the the three big items I'm going to discuss at the beginning of our presentation is Candlewood Lake Elementary School in the transition I'm going to walk you through some of the completion timeline pieces which I think will be of significant interest not only to the public and we have this uh up on the website but for our boards here tonight the transition of the the two elementary schools and fifth grade to the building and with
006that right sizing of whiskey near remember whiskey air will become a different and new school it'll be a different culture there we're losing almost 200 students to Candlewood Lake from there so we're going to have a six through eight building and let's not forget when we right-size the Portables that have been there for many decades will not be will be demolished they will not be there any longer the other thing that's very important that affects not only the elementary and the Middle School school students but the high school students as well is our healthy school start times initiative we actually if everything went perfectly with the building and we didn't have the supply chain delays and all of that and we would have been in the new school this year and we would have started
007the new start time so I'm going to talk a little bit about that we're starting that next year and then there's a couple of other really big key initiatives that we're working on now that are going to carry us through over the next couple of years and especially into next year that I want to share with you so I just want to take my time and walk you through the timeline so everybody can get a sense of this um you could see many of the grade level classrooms will be complete by the end of this month on the interior of Candlewood Lake in March some more classrooms will be complete Terrazzo flooring on the second floor will be complete the administrative offices cafeteria multi-purpose room including flooring will be complete our media centers by the
008end of March should be complete and certainly some more bathrooms as we go through so over the next gosh seven weeks there is going to be a lot that gets done on the interior and I can tell you that with Dr pepsoski we walk the building every Friday and we're seeing it every week you can see the difference it's really really moving along nicely and by the way we just got internet there yesterday so things continue to move along in April you can see there that the cafeteria in the multi-purpose room uh wall finishes will be complete finishing up on the Pre-K and K side of the building will be done elevator inspections we have two elevators in the new building so if one is ever down we'll have that backup and then the main
009stairwell should be installed by the end of April that also includes Terrazzo materials in May the gym remaining bathrooms and various other spaces with Terrazzo flooring finish up in June the main hallway area of Terrazzo flooring that's kind of the entrance area and other wall finishes are finished we also anticipate that the entry Bridges and the brook exposing the Culvert into the open Brook will be complete and we start demolition once uh the staff and students are out of Huckleberry we start demolition right away on on huckleberry and then finally over the summer the really big stuff that's going to happen over the summer is the site work is going to go on which is the parking lot work and so forth the playgrounds and the playscapes and the driveways and all of that interestingly
010I want to just bring you to a map and this site plan just to orient you the right side of the diagram is Candlewood Lake Road the yellow portion is the north side of the building and the red is the actual current Huckleberry Hill school that's the footprint of school I'll explain everything in just a second to the left the hollowed out white area that is the new school right there so you just want to orient your your visual perspective to what we're looking at here so new school here Candlewood Lake here's current huckleberry and this and this is Candlewood Lake Road so you just see this coming down so what we're going to have to start this when we get working on everything and work over the summer is a finished building here and
011all the green is finished parking lot and driveway that will utilize in the fall because Huckleberry Hill while the demolition will start on the school here where the north parking lot needs to be built and the other entryway that will all be worked on over the summer but will not be complete at the start of the school year what's making it possible for us to move into the school is the south parking lot will be finished and something we've been asking for for a long time and Ong was able to make this work is the temporary parking lot because what many people don't look at is all the ancillary staff Beyond classroom teachers and we have 200 adults that'll be working in and around Huckleberry Hill okay there's a lot of people there in terms
012of our staff so we need that much parking so we add parking here and then there will be safe parking along the driveway to make that work for everyone and that will be the fall we'll have the temporary lot in this finish lot buses will come in there's turnaround opportunity in here we're working on with the fire marshal police bus company everyone we're having that all worked on and so we'll be working on those plans and how that all fits in what'll happen by November is the entire area will be finished the asphalt plants as we know when it gets colder they close they're able to get the parking lot in the driveway done and we are in really good shape by mid-november Thanksgiving and everything will be done and it'll be obviously much easier
013for driving and the more space you know to the optimal design this part here is a grassy area this will be finished in the spring of 24. it will not you know it'll it'll it'll be flattened and smooth where the temporary lot was but it won't be pretty necessarily this particular spot so I wanted to walk you through the timeline and the site work the leadership is very important to take a look at the leadership structure of how we're going to have Candlewood Lake set up there was talk of one principle there was Taco could we have two principles in the upper and the lower house how are we going to do this uh quite a long time ago we made a decision um as an administrative team and as a board that we're going
014to have a one principal model DR pepsoski is going to be our principal and you will see that our assistant principals will be Dr rudel and Mrs Gordon and that would be Dr rudel in the upper house and in the lower house would be Mrs Gordon our special education supervisor Mrs ricitelli would be in housed at the elementary school because she's the special education supervisor for elementary and as you can see oops excuse me Bob fast on my clicker there yeah over here our director of instruction Mrs Furious is actually returning to the director of instruction next year and will be housed at the elementary school and we're really looking forward to her leadership there Mrs Ferry has stepped in for us this year as the principal of Center school and it's important to note
015that when we transition to the elementary school the new elementary school and the consolidation the Center School principal position is eliminated there's that so that's a savings in next year's budget and with Mrs ferries acting as the principal this year we've realized the savings from the existing director of instruction position we didn't backfill that this year with a substitute or anything like that which leads us into right-sizing the middle school at the middle school the leadership structure is changing as I said Mrs Gordon who's our current assistant principal at the middle school she works with fifth and sixth graders total of 400 students she'll be moving on to the elementary school and that um that vacates an administrative uh role at the middle school and like I said she works with 400 students but will
016only be 200 students less at the middle school so there's still going to be 600 kids at Whiskey near Mr uh Brenda and Mr bedner will still be there as Administration and one of the things we're doing is a budget neutral um change where we're going to bring in a teacher leader position a dean of students not only for safe and orderly environment work but also student engagement family engagement and the like in terms of having enough adults to properly supervise and keep a safe learning environment so we're really excited about that as well so that's Candlewood Lake is high level with a little bit of detail for you to work you through the other major thing we have going on that affects all of our students is the healthy school start times initiative when
017we really embarked I think it was about three years ago now and we put the committee together we really wanted to look at this from a healthy perspective not just a uh either trying to figure out how we do something different with buses and times it was really looking at adolescence and health that was the most important thing to us and the thing we we all found and actually through surveys of students and families and uh High School teachers really the consensus was the kids are really tired at the start of school our high school starts at 7 15 now so the kids have to get up quite quite early and and staff has to get here quite early to have a start time sharp at 7 15. so as you can see up there
018we're going to move the high school to an eight o'clock start time to gain 45 minutes and that's right in line with the research and the middle school is going to start a few minutes later to match that up to the 8 o'clock start time and the kids will be on the first bus tier all going at the same time however middle school students and high school students will not be on the same buses and I know that's there's a lot of anxiety probably more for parents than it is for for the younger students in that case so we're making sure that happens and then in the second tier it's going to be for the entire Elementary School and they'll all start at the same time and that's 8 50 and that's just a few
019minutes later than Elementary is now so we've Consolidated from the three tiers so again our high school students gained 45 minutes of sleep which is right in alignment with what the experts tell us we had folks from Yale in here and talking to us about more sleep they suggested if you're not going to go 45 minutes later in terms of the times and waking up then don't don't bother making the change it's a lot of effort and you're not going to get much bang for your buck so we we elected to go in that direction school schedules and bus schedules um fully aligned with sleep patterns that I just said the surveys responses from parents they really saw that as well as staff and students that they need more the opportunity for more sleep um
020I'm excited about that fourth bullet there we really looked at patterns of sunrise and sunset in the times of year and we we squeezed it in as best we could where students should not be going home or being at bus stops in the dark and that was really important in terms of consolidating those those because right now our high school students get on and some of us we drive to work when it's dark and we see really last minute you see kids waiting at the stop and that's not good and of course minimal uh disruption to any after school activities a lot of schools are starting to move in this direction so Athletics are not really negatively affected and our athletic director was a part of that committee uh the other piece is going to
021the two-tier system there is an increase in the number of buses to make all of this work and that's accounted for in the budget for next year and then the final thing that's really exciting that we're all working on is those those other key in this initiatives or strategic actions many of you have heard about this whether it's us uh sharing talking anecdotally watching board meetings um articles in the paper presentations from students whatever it might be we've got a lot going on of course we've all been through a very challenging now two and a half years and uh we're really excited about the things we're doing in academics and mental health in terms of supporting our students and making sure we recover from the the past two years uh in terms of the learning
022loss and the recovery we need we've kind of titled that reset and relaunch this year as part of that we really started a kickoff in August with our strategic plan and we're really excited about the move in that direction our last plan we worked on curriculum instruction assessment professional development we all remember nine years ago all the financial and Regulatory control we needed to fix in this town and we we have done that um and obviously building the new school and enhancing and building our existing facilities we did a great job there we've done a lot in 2019 uh in the spring our total district report card we were fourth in our dirt in terms of how we were scoring and actually Dr Mann will be updating that report and how we're doing post covid
023next week to the board and how that that data is shaking out so we're doing quite well obviously we've had the last couple of years developed our strategic plan and we're going to start rolling that out in March we're really excited we have something called the the portrait of the graduate which involves critical and creative thinking collaboration communication and change making and that's all attributes and dispositions we want our students to develop beginning Pre-K all the way through high school and so we're going to be talking a lot about that you're going to hear a great deal about that in the coming months and we're super excited the other piece curriculum wise we need to work on in our early strategic plan from uh six years ago that or seven years ago that we worked
024through we really worked on the fundamentals of reading and Mathematics and curricular tools it's time to revamp and revisit and so we're doing that and Dr man's uh heading with our our Cracker Jack team a lot of great work there is underway I have to thank everybody around here for the support with security at the schools we had a lot of work we did this summer and we're really in a great place in our schools we continue to plan there are four pillars to to security at the schools staff training the structures that you put in place obviously technology and law enforcement we've got all four pillars really covered quite well um and uh something exciting that we'll be rolling out in March is through Sandy Hook's promise the say something app which is an
025anonymous Reporting System that's Grant funded and we've just been working on getting everybody at least on the administrative and trained up and we'll start rolling it out to teachers excuse me staff and students through March we're really excited about that we also through through our Karma which is our insurance company just recently had a vulnerability assessment where they actually came to the school unannounced and they they tested us and so we have a full detailed report on that we're really excited about that so there's a lot going on with school safety many of you recently this fall we've had some challenges and we've made some decisions and we're able to through some grant funding have a comprehensive special education program review we're really excited about that we've made a decision on the firm we're going
026to go with and be talking to the board about that next week those folks will be in probably at the beginning of March to work with us this spring and help us take a good objective third party look at our program there and give us some recommendations to move forward and see where we're doing well and what we should continue to enhance our technology plan we have another Grant funded program called Future Ready schools through the state of Connecticut and that is really putting us on the Forefront not only of infrastructure but the tools and the curricular ideas we need to help enhance teaching and learning as well as supporting cyber security as we roll back into school safety we just talked at the facility committee before this meeting about a building condition study it's
027time to re-up our building condition study I see you have your Capital binders in front of you we need to look at whiskaneer and the high school and really do another Deep dive as to where you assess again an outside party to come in and help assess where our uh both our existing facilities are at we'll have a brand new elementary school but what about the middle and high school what do we need to do going forward help us plan for that and then finally the athletic program review at the high school the ciac is going to come in and help us out there and get a look so we can see what we're doing well and where we can improve and enhance and again all of this Falls in with strategic planning and strategic
028actions we're taking to uh continue to to help us move toward a world-class school system that we're trying to achieve here in Brookfield so we're really excited about going from here and Building forward onto all the great work we've done over the last Almost decade together here so um that's my that's my time I think Bob yes two up here so I think it's time to turn it over to Mr Belden okay um some of these key initiatives there's some there's a lot going on as you can imagine we're very busy as a board I'll speak for our board we've got every meeting is very needy these days in terms of topics one quick one the um Athletics review is that um uh from the state is a request to that or are they coming
029in there's a there's a question and Mr uh Baldwin are working through it's actually quite a um it's not it's not very expensive considering the valuable information we get okay yeah good evening everybody I have a couple of questions nice to see everyone thank you for all your hard work I can't believe a Year's gone by already and here we are again so um a couple of things off of what you said um Dr Burrell the the WMS being 200 students smaller but still 600 students so you mentioned that the um dean of students would be there to provide a safe and orderly environment is that to insinuate that things are not safe and unorderly at the moment or no not at all okay what you want to do is continue to maintain a safe
030and orderly environment so why uh somewhere else I'm sorry Wyatt the middle school and why not somewhere else does the high school need a dean of students like how did it how did this kind of come to be so what we were looking at is um in I did a presentation gosh I think it was in November of 21 we talked about kind of the ratio of Administrators in our district administrators to students and and we look at our administrators in a a one to two to three hundred range when we look across the district and so that was one ratio we wanted to look at and Achieve but the other was the developmental need of pre-adolescence coming out of covid the support they need the behaviors we're seeing uh the supports families need for
031family engagement and knowing that we have um teacher evaluations that also need to occur and so we want to make sure that while Mr Renda and Mr bednarik take on more teacher supervision that there is appropriate supervision of students and this would be in that teacher leader position I was talking about in the dean of students a little let me just add we were operating with Skinner middle school with a principal and two assistant principals there were three administrators we had a big debate at our board whether we could live with two administrators that when you lose 200 students down to the elementary school and one of your assistant principals so there's only two administrators left and could you operate it with two no I don't for those of you who have middle schoolers you
032know that the most challenging age group to uh to have too few administrators so the we actually had a discussion at our last board meeting about what should we do on that because some of us actually said maybe we should live with two and try that um and we concluded after listening to Mr Renda and Dr Burrell that you had really did need three adults doing the combination of managing your staff and managing students and family connections and so the solution that Dr brill's given to us is rather than hiring a third administrator and undermining the um the uh the savings we're getting by you know eliminating the administrator we're going to use a teacher we call it a teacher a leadership position and for those of you who had never focused in on that
033the the teachers union covers not just teachers it has guidance counselors and other types of roles are part of that Union um and uh so we it's similar to a guy a more a senior guidance counselor if you will and their job is not about managing staff their job is strictly going to be focused on the students and the families right you know dealing with discipline issues dealing with all the things that go on and that frees up the leadership the two remaining administrators to take on the added burden they have of more teachers they're going to have to uh you know do observations and assessments and the like so it was a smart move because the cost of doing it through the teachers union is probably 70 percent 65 to 70 percent of doing
034a full Administration positions trendsetters here is no it's not what's happening across no matter of fact I had one of these positions when I was up and coming administrator many many moons ago it is I'd say Dean we looked it up probably half to two-thirds of the middle schools have a similar kind of position it depends I mean honestly some of those team of students are administrators yeah they're called dean of students but they're in the administrator a couple of them were teacher yeah what I can tell you is is Dean did a very very thorough uh PowerPoint presentation it's on video um it's in the town Spotlight it's on Facebook through our three main points it's on the district website so we could really go in there and dig in on that there's a
035lot of good information there thank you sure did you have anything else Tara oh yeah absolutely I know where to find you thank you um I do have another question regarding the new school when and how will the building be available to the public parks and rec departments that type of thing and how do we bring the rest of the Town into the full yeah I think so we've talked we've talked about that um the uh Mr gagne has been in contact with uh my team uh in terms of Summer work and that kind of a thing as you can see there's going to be a lot of work in the summer so it's not going to be available for the summer once the building is complete and ready for folks to see and explore
036we're going to have events and opportunities for the public to come in and enjoy the building and take a look the other piece is it will be fully used by park and rec I mean that's we've planned the entire time so we've been working together on that but again we've had these continued delays so once once the building is complete it'll be operational and we're actually working on the getting that gym floor ready and thinking about all the gym work that'll be going on in there and park and rec activities but it will be the fall yeah right because we want a parking yeah right we want a parking until maybe a first event the election in November oh yeah absolutely you can definitely do that I don't have any other questions at the moment
037awesome thank you thank you all the questions all right so I'll flip over to the budget then um I just using this as a a bridging uh slide to tell you the truth you all have seen the slide in the past presentations we do start at the the kickoff is in early October the principals bring things forward through October and November they go through all a very significant set of reviews uh with Dr Brill and with Mr post to try and formulate the the budget that is then presented to the Board of Education in early December we are the earliest District in the state I believe to present the budget to the Board of Education they're trying to get ahead of us um so we then and the reason we do that quite frankly and
038it's been very effective is we uh we then launch uh a finance committee process where we meet every week and we have we assign out our uh finance committee members to review every single question every single line in the budget uh Rosa chairs our uh our finance committee and we have very active meetings we post all of the questions that are asked into a document that a Google doc we've shared that with you in your book so you all have that as well there's no no reason to not share that um and uh the uh we have uh uh fine a board of Finance member on that and Mrs Marion's on that committee so we're we try to do this as openly as we can this year we actually yanked a lot of money out
039of uh out of the budget from its initial presentation in the beginning of uh of December to when we finalized our budget by the uh our second meeting in January the board itself is also sending in questions in there I think many of our board members have asked lots of good questions in there and so you have a chance if you want to take the time to review that it's quite a I want to say 25-page document um 29 but who's counting Ken answered every single question and we then do our deliberations uh the way as a board what we do is we look for the big things that need discussing and we ask we set up presentations at our board meetings in in the December meetings and in the January meetings to go through
040topics one of them for example was doing duodina students or do a different solution there and we spend some time on that and then we vote in our second meeting in January which we did and submitted it at the end of January and as we all know we're starting now the townside process so uh and uh you know Mrs car you've you're in the middle of what you do and the board of Finance has ahead of them so that's coming leading to the referendum in May so um so let's talk about the budget a little bit and I'm going to start with enrollment our enrollment uh and enrollment today is 2 563. we get a report every October 1st on the official enrollment report um and that's that's in the current year and our projected
041enrollment is slightly down from that in in 2023-24 and it's kind of at the root of it is you're graduating classes with 220 kids and you're bringing in classes at 165-ish on average right so that has a natural uh reduction of your student population but in Brookfield we're actually having a lot of people transferring in as people buy homes there's a lot of Home turnover going so we actually have a much more moderate reduction than you might have might assume with that kind of graduating class versus kindergarten class Dynamic Candlewood Lake Elementary school is going to be our biggest school right it's over a thousand students in that school that will be one of the largest elementary schools in the state of Connecticut maybe the largest whiskaneer goes from the 800 range down to the
042600 range Brookfield High School stays pretty consistent at just over 8.50 so it will be I think whiskey near goes from our lar that's not our largest school but was our second largest school to our smallest school with only three grades uh we have uh Mo we have over 100 multi-lingual Learners um so that's always been has been a recent focus in Brookfield and for those who don't know what a multilingual learner is is they're the language spoken at home is not English right so the children need the support to uh really start you know assimilating English as a as a language so that takes some particular skills uh to do that so that's grown over the time I've been on the board from around 50 or 60 up to over a hundred uh we
043have 560 kids who are free and reduced lunch that gives you a and a an indicator of economic status in town so we have a number of children who need that level of support and we have special needs at about 363 and those are not changing a lot year to year so um I thought it would be interesting to take a little longer view than just um just the one year for those of you who've been watching this for a while we went through a number of years where people were saying man your school population is shrinking and if you look back I did this back to 2005 but then back then we had over 3 000 kids in our school we had 31 3101 I think is that number and we went through a
044period of time in Brookfield where we were dramatically dropping the number of kids but it's leveled out I mean within I mean it's slightly creeping down but the last five years it's been relatively stable you see I noted the one year where it dropped a lot but that was the covet hold back so they didn't send we only had like 130 kids in kindergarten that year but it bounced right back the next year and so we're it's over on the right you can see the we're averaging about 11 kids on average per year reduction it used to be 42 and 42 choose like a classroom I mean or two classrooms so that was very noticeable but it's stabilized I actually in the model I looked at I actually simulated it and if we run at
045a given if we can keep the trends going if we we've been averaging 166 new kindergartners if we run it 160. steadily it will continue to decline at about five to ten per year and if we get to 180 and we've had some years at 175 178 in the last couple of years it will actually increase our population and I'm watching the covet bubble right there's a lot of news out there that two years of working at home there was a lot of babies being generated so so we're watching that for a couple of years from now um so what that what you ought to conclude out of that big picture is enrollment isn't a big driver for us right we do have uh we shouldn't expect lots of change in our teaching teaching staff
046because of enrollment but what we do see and I'll show you is some gives and takes on the on different grades so we might add one in one grade and decline in the next so and in fact that's as you look you've seen this chart in the past from us on class size averages the good news is if you look at the bottom row here every single grade is within the class size guidelines that we established right so with the Staffing that we've looked at there's no red on the chart in the in the projection for next year and that's good right that's what we want to be we've actually made back in the mid 2000s it was a lot of red we were struggling to keep up with those the bigger populations but it's
047the population is normalized uh over time we've been able to do most of our grades uh keeping within the guidelines we set and next year is no different over on the right you can see the Staffing changes there's a zero based on enrollment uh there's two on the lowest grades uh there we have very small actual class sizes this year so we can we're going to remove one kindergarten in one grade one section but we're going to add grade two and grade four so um so there's some gives and takes but in the big picture it doesn't change much so um and we're very happy to be able to say we're operating Within in the class size guidelines that we established for those of you I'm thinking of Harry that lived through getting those established
048and then trying to meet them it was it was hard for a long time there's also it's kind of a misperception that if you're down 50 or 60 or 70 students they should drastically reduce the cost but you know the school's less be open you have to use electricity you know so it really takes quite an increase or decrease in people to really change the economic Dynamic I think it does and also when you think about you know 10 or 15 kids changing in a whole District it that's on average that's like one one per grade I mean it's not it doesn't change the needle very much so so this is the budget we have a 48.6 million dollar budget right now it's our proposal grows 2.1 million dollars year to year that is um
049you have the charts I just I can't see through Steve um yeah I I and I don't have a hard copy here um it's it's a 4.39 when Dr Brill first brought it to us it was sizably higher than that and uh in the backup I I actually there's some backup charts which I don't intend to present tonight but when you look in the back of the thing I actually listed out in the last chart um here's the reductions we took as we did our deliberations interestingly if you look at this 4.39 increase 2.1 million dollars almost 2 billion dollars of its inflationary right it's uh it is an over four percent of the 4.39 is just in is just cost of things going up um and I'll go through that in detail right in
050the in incoming charts um we do have 325 000 of savings as we move into the new school um I'll show you the details on that uh it's a lot of it's some staffing uh changes it's uh it's uh Heating and Cooling right we go out of old and less efficient buildings into a much better situation um and some other things um we have two items that we had funded through uh grants the security monitors the town was very helpful in providing initial funding to do the security monitor uh the monitors and if just as a reminder the the unarmed security monitors are in the school budget the police budget carries the uh the sros in the 1as or so um those have to be folded into our budget and we had some investment items
051that we were able to fund through the ARP Esser Grant which is the school the Esser Grant is the school recovery version of our arpa and uh we have a whole plan how that rolls into the budget you may remember last year we had a bit of it in the first year this was the second year of our roll-in process and I'll show you the detail on that and then we have one little and I'll call it an investment when the bcbas which are behavioral board certified behavioral analysts um you see John's trained me um and uh we've been struggling with getting enough capacity and as you can imagine the environment kids have just come through on two years of covid behavior is one of the topical areas that needs addressing and we need some
052capacity there and we needed to do it in a way that we could guarantee the capacity because we were doing it through a third party and it wasn't as consistent as we would like and nor was there enough of it so so I will take you through a little bit of what what that's about so okay so Steve you were going to ask a question yes um the pcbas uh I think most of us will understand what's driving it over the last three years yep do we see this as a continuing expense going forward perhaps well we've always had BCBS right let's start there there's a bit of an increase a small increase but most of it is doing is is uh the insourcing of it is what you're dealing with here and I'll show
053you the numbers thank you so um if you so if you look at it the the savings on the moving into clas are covering some of the uh the the Grant and the small bcba thing and so they the these other things don't really add a lot to the the net impact of the budget in the big in the big scheme of things um so here's the inflationary pressures um medical and dental is the single largest increase in our budget um it is driven by 10 percent uh in rate increase on medical benefits the Connecticut partnership plan that's what CPP stands for has told us the range is eight to ten percent we've we've budgeted at this point in time at the high end of the range because that's the The Prudent thing to do
054I think the town is taking the same approach and we're hoping to get a better uh input uh by the time we're into April right um and uh and of course we will be very happy to adjust the budget to whenever we think the um the right number is um this year if you remember in the current year we budgeted at an assumed rate and we had a good agreement with the board of Finance on how where to hold contingencies and I think that's a discussion we should have but the uh it actually came in higher right and so we're actually using some of that agreed contingency this year and I want to I we all appreciate the the partnership we have between the boards on us dental benefits are at six percent that's not
055inconsistent with what we've seen in the past but I just wanted to make sure that was up there you know for reference I've got a detailed backup chart that I could show you on the health benefits costs that the the overall health benefits is seven hundred and seventy thousand dollars of cost increase of which um the uh about almost 700 000 is the rate increase so uh that's it's the driver there the second item is heating oil the heating oil the the rates for next year are actually lower than this year right our our rate this year is running in at um uh 4.21 cents per gallon and is those what we're paying next year uh we budgeted at 3.33 cents a gallon that's that's a good news from where we are today this year's
056been horrific right in terms of heating oil um but it's still above the budget that's a 39 in a percent increase even the 333 is a 39 increase from the 2.39 cents we budgeted for the current year so when you're doing a budget you're doing a budget year to budget year type of compare this is driving a very healthy increase in uh in spending and I'll show you the the numbers in a chartered too special education um we have a tuition increase of 159 000. most of that is in the current year we had four kids come in this year and two leave the program um and that's been driving this hundred and fifty nine thousand dollars uh next year is actually down from this year's actuals but it's above the budget we put in
057for this year so when you kind of do the same type of analysis we just talked about on heating oil you're seeing that already in what we're seeing in the current year now we've offset that we actually uh um are decreasing Transportation costs Dr Burrell has worked with a our regional organization at Advance to actually work with other districts and create a Consortium of districts to um to actually ship a ride share for kids going to the same programs and we would have with the added students going to programs that would have increased that would have been also a very significant increase in terms of spending probably a hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year to year increase but instead it's down by 71 because we found 225 000 worth of savings by doing ride
058sharing so that's a good story actually in this budget and uh and of course we with more kids get with tuition we get more in the excess cost reimbursement we don't get nearly enough from the excess cost reimbursement but uh but it's uh but it is helping offset some of that cost to see if you were going to ask a question on the buses are we adding two buses or are we replacing two buses um we in terms of the general transportation we would be adding two buses what drives that um going from three tier to two tier you need more buses to move the same amount of kids say that again I'm sorry so instead so what you have today is you have one set of buses and then they go back and they
059go to the second school and you have a second set of buses and and and so with the high school and the middle school going at the same time they've re-looked at the how they so so yeah you're still on I was talking about the special ed and the ride sharing and he asked me a question about the next item um so but Steve's quick um the uh so it's on the on special ed actually uh Ed Advance runs some of their Vans mostly in advance were actually runs those so that will uh they're able to do a lot of that coordination on the special ed and that's actually we've done some of that with other districts this is a noticeable increase in it which is great uh and uh and I want to thank
060Dr Burrell for your leadership on that because you were driving that across all these districts um thank you um the general transportation I think I answered Steve's the the issue on general transportation is when you have one set of buses does the high school run and then they go to the Middle School run and then they go do the elementary run um when you start putting the timing of them so they overlap right you need some additional new buses we've been able to work with the bus company to just keep that to two buses we've heard of other districts who had this was this most significant issue was they would have to add you know 10 buses and things like that we've actually you know changed the bus runs and things like that that will
061make it work so yeah uh we've actually talked about it um but it's probably at our next bus contract negotiation which is five years from now so we got some time to go work on that the big inhibitor that we actually talked about it at the last bus contract the big inhibitor was infrastructure um the you need a very heavy infrastructure to charge those buses um so yeah so yeah uh 2032 I think or so 2030. so it was so our our next bus company renewal as well before that and that's where we're going to have to deal with it the information we had at the time Tara also was that the I believe the electric buses uh were double the cost of the current buses as well you know so that's 70 000 versus
062140 000 you know if you're going to be rough on the numbers with the bus contracts does that include a fuel contract as well is that something that we're tied into I remember discussions about that but the fuel prices are really high we Supply the fuel and we've already locked in gasoline for next year which some of our buses will run on and diesel fuel is about the same price as heating oil because it's virtually the same product but using two tiers we will use less fuel so the last item is employee salaries and and I put this last on the list because our increase year to year is not dramatically different than we've seen in the past it's just a big base right I mean so it drives over 700 000 of the increase
063with that 2.4 percent increase but again again salaries are 70 percent of our spend so it's uh it's uh it I have to mention it and I'm and I can show you some what's in some of the contracts if we need to this is the arpac sir oh okay go ahead very high level numbers yeah I do I actually have it on a chart for you but but uh but I'll just but but let me let me let me let me let me just so it's a health insurance with 777 000 salaries with 732. the general transportation the the contract plus the two buses is 230 279. uh the heating oil is 117 and the special ed in aggregate is 46. slide 20 Dan it's all written down yeah they are and actually in my
064note that I sent out today uh we had a little bit of discoveries as we were doing the charts and we have to send you an updated uh set of uh details but it wasn't what didn't change any of the bottom line numbers it was just categorizations of things so so they are slightly different than what you had before not it doesn't as you saw it didn't change the story very much so yeah no I got it that's why I wrote the note today um so let's just talk I want to go through each of the line major line items and I'll come back and show you the summaries on it so our best sir um we had these are the lists of things when we got that art besser grant that we said we
065were going to fund that would help the the district and help the kids with the federal funds we got many districts spent all of their money they received and did a lot much longer list of items and they're facing a massive Cliff that they're falling off of and if you remember from last year we made a conscious decision not to spend everything we had but instead to say some items were going to cover for one year some items we're going to cover for two years and some items were going to cover for three years so that we never had a cliff a big Cliff we have a little Cliffs we got to deal with but in this case last year we brought into our budget a hundred and thirty thousand dollars of items and it
066was a social studies instructional coach and the technology integrator or part of the technology in a greater salary this year we we bring in the science instructional coach um and the the another big chunk of the technology integrator and then the social worker that we put on so the total net cost of that's 214 000 and next year it'll be another two hundred and ten thousand because of that we were very very clear that these were our investments right and we we were making our decisions for three years right we're not going to bring in a bunch of new things and new ideas and new initiatives and new things and we didn't do that right you probably noticed on the things it wasn't a list of Investments that we were bringing in um and uh
067and we're we're serious about trying to hold to that over this three-year window so this is really the gist of what that roll in of the the arpa funded stuff that's on the on the front page no this is different than the bcbn this is a social worker social worker at Center School yeah this is Center School okay um so that's what's going on with our pastor next year to another 200 000 uh that we're going to have to deal with and and then we're done with this right this is that'll be the end of the rolling into the regular budget but again those are our initiatives or big Investments for next year are already there here's the bcba story um we are seeing this pretty healthy increase in the need on Behavioral Services um
068it's mostly in Special Ed but it's not all special ed so we do have behavioral problems that are outside the special ed kids but it's mostly special-led uh related IEP type of services um we use that Advance who uh would contract out this service and we had we we have one and we hired out the six service days so that's a it's not it's not as it's more than a second it's like one and a quarter of a bcba that we got from them so we had one in-house and one and a quarter uh that we contracted the rate for that as we we've kept we're very frustrated because the rate for that that service was very high per per day um but you couldn't hire bcbas I mean that was why we did it
069in the first place it was about accessibility access to the skills well that's changed right and we can now hide we actually town that we could hire bcbas there was enough availability and we were able to hire two bcbas part of it is is to replace the one 0.25 that we had that we were getting as a service and the other was the increasing need right so we uh we covered two birds with the hiring of two so we'll have three now we'll have the two that are new hires and the one we had already um that cost of 239 000 versus 174 000 that was on the six service days that we had in the budget so it's the right thing to do the needs are there we looked at it as a board
070and said we really do need to get this service in place and it's a little bit of a mix of insourcing and um which is a bit of a savings actually and getting some more capacity we looked at the cost of if we continued using the service and needed that you needed to increase the number of days it would have been over three hundred thousand dollars so we thought this was a wise decision in the big scheme of things [Music] um here's the details on the uh Candlewood Lake Elementary School we'll save 157 000 by not having a Center School principal right as we migrate to that new school uh we are adding the dean of students but we're also removing a Spanish uh FTE a Spanish teacher and what we had was a at
071the elementary level you had one Spanish teacher could handle three grades at the middle school we had a one Spanish teacher per grade so as we move the fifth grade back to the elementary school we could actually cover it with the two the two that we were getting from Center and Huckleberry so we could eliminate that fifth grade dedicated uh Spanish teacher and put them into the more Elementary program so we were actually able to do a swap on the uh on the in the FTE so that's the dean of students thing we talked about um is actually as a zero net cost between the and we still and we get the right coverage without any loss of uh program which is good um the next three lines are kind of the gist of what's
072happening on the on the heating we are literally we are natural gas heating at the new school and but we save uh heating oil at Center and and Huckleberry is all electric so um so we actually the net savings is consistent with the business case we put together when we uh we brought that forward and then there's a number of other small items like the refuse collection we have one fewer location where you know collecting uh garbage every week the data line right we instead of having five locations where we have to run data lines between them we have four right because uh we'll just have the three schools and uh and TSO maintenance supplies right one less school to to clean uh the sewer hookup which was small but it was all of those
073added up to another thirty eight thousand dollars so the net savings is 325 dollars for going into the new school and they're all very real though because we still I understand so this is I agree with that there's a for clarity there is uh the decision on what to do with Center School as we vacate it is uh is an important one so yeah to occupy the school is this a good starting place as an estimate of the cost we would incur to keep people in the building um for Center yes I think you can that's actually built off of your actual history of uh of uh heating matter of fact I was chatting with Sheldon the other day about that as you know preparing himself for that in the management are we talking about
074the 325 000 no no the 69 000 69 000 for Center okay and would be would would that be to keep the entire Building open or would that be is that just to mothballs no no no this 69 000 is what we save in the schools by not being in Center School we no longer have any costs for that so that so I think what uh Mrs Carr asks is if we're going to fully occupy it would that be the cost of uh of keeping it going it's just not a mothballing that's not a mothballing cost so mothballing cost was a lot less than that if I remember because you don't run the heat nearly as much so um so this is Dan I told you I'd give you all the numbers uh slide 20.
075this is the famous slide 20. it's also what was in attached to the letter we sent although these are updated numbers uh slightly updated numbers um but you have each of the line items that um that I uh that I walked through verbally in the last charts um and some of them I showed you the numbers others we talked about so um the uh if you look at the inflationary stuff um one of the things I do one of the things I do as a uh in in building these charts is I say I always hate other right so that uh that 20 we were able to with just five items explain all but twenty four thousand dollars um in the back of your chart I actually asked Ken to pull every other line item
076that was plus or minus five thousand dollars um I'm not gonna pitch it today right you guys have it you'd like to look at it with an explanation of what was driving it up or down right and so it's there for reference in one of the backup charts um and uh and yeah there's some pluses and minuses that offset each other to get to the 24 but not any one of them is as big as the items above right so there's just those are truly the uh the five largest drivers the health insurance the salaries the transportation the heating oil and the special education um and by my estimate well over half of that we're seeing this year that's part of the exposure we're seeing this year and it's just flowing through to next year
077um so that's really you know this it's the but the budget is basically an inflation and budget we have uh there's no new investments in here other than the things that were already covered by federal grants that we have to roll into you know regular funding uh we are getting the savings which is helping us here for Cle s and uh all the detail is in the books you have right and I suspect as you have a chance to digest those books there'll be further questions that you know we can work a process where as we've done in the past we can get questions and you can say I saw this item on on that I'm not going to pitch the next charts but I just want to show you what's in the backup um
078there is detail on the negotiated employee contracts right so you actually know what the rate of increases on each of our contracts are for the next year we are still in negotiation on a couple of them the next chart I did a stepwise analysis on the health benefits so you can see the full increase but you can see how much of it was seeing this year how much of it's in the rate increase for next year and uh and so you can actually follow the bouncing ball the third chart is the details on the special ad so you can see the numbers of students and the rate per student and where we're having bus runs so you have that level of detail on the back the fourth one is the detail on the heating oil
079and the rates and the usage because uh Glenn always asks me for p times q and I wanted to make sure I gave it to them um and this is the one I told you is in the back is the budgetary items plus or minus five thousand dollars with explanations on each one of them and then this is last one is here's the adjustments we made in our budget review so you can actually see what those sorts of things we've already cut out so those are all in the back I didn't intend to present them but I wanted you to know they are there and I am willing to take questions that you all might have I tried to go as reasonably quickly as we could because I know everybody would love to have an
080evening so what do you question okay okay yeah that's the the contract yep I got it so two questions all of the percentages are above the 2.4 overall is that because there's two groups that haven't yet been increased and that the 200k takes that 3.87 down um to can remind me what that how that helped helped I gotta get my bucket so 3825-30126. yeah I know I got you yeah I gotcha hold on a second I'm gonna answer the question uh as explicitly as I can so we have um we actually have uh some less usage and and two line items um where where things actually go down right that help to it and the two hundred thousand dollars is booked which takes the um I didn't calculate that number oh good look so all
081right so and then the the two that are not yet set is at risk for the current budget here that we're working on um we've budgeted what we think is a reasonable number um and uh the paraprofessionals go into mediation next week um and uh what day is that next week 27th okay it moved um and uh and that one is a interesting discussion so Ken's tried to do that at a reasonable uh reasonable rate and the custodians is out ahead of us but I wouldn't expect custodians to be uh way out of normal okay so if you did budget increase for those yeah we'd oh we definitely have budget increases for those so thank you and uh and so and then of course these are all affected by employee turnover right and we do
082have that 200 000 the 200 000 and you know if I go look back in time it was you know you got we we did that with the agreement that there would be uh contingency at the Town level if we underran it probably over the last five years we overran it right last this year not and uh and I've been talking about that in uh the last couple of uh Board of Finance meetings and it's uh uh we know of some uh retirements coming but uh it's a it's an interesting environment right now for uh for educators so we'll I'll see what happens exactly we don't usually know about retirements until this late in the spring after our budgets are done so [Music] science instructional coach I'm going to let Dr Mann talk about what
083the science instructional coach does [Music] for instructional coaches um we actually have a team of seven instructional coaches the science instructional coach uh this year last year during the first year of the rollout was focused on the whiskaneer grades five through eight this year that position has expanded from kindergarten through eight and each of the instructional coaches through their designated content area really is tasked with going in and and partnering with teachers and helping them use high leverage instructional practices to really address learning loss and also bring in new materials bring in um you know inter and also often integrating interdisciplinary approaches um and so the the instructional coach this year has been working in all three buildings for science so kindergarten through eighth grade and is again really focusing on bringing in those high
084level high leverage and uh kind of um you know interesting and engaging ways to bring in science to all the grades and then how from PD it is kind of a built-in professional development through I know so it's kind of like ongoing and embedded which is the way in professional development the most efficacious approach to professional development um for for Teacher learning and for development but it also it actually is an enhanced professional development in a lot of ways because it it directly impacts students right in real time because they do a lot of co-teaching they do a lot of co-planning and so it's kind of the the instructional coaching approach allows the a Continuum of curriculum instruction and assessment to kind of be the lived experience of the teacher within the classroom on a
085regular basis so rather than kind of curriculum writing happening at a certain time and then instruction happening every day and then assessment happening occasionally the instructional coaches are able to kind of bring that Continuum to the teachers on a regular basis so we actually have had the instructional coaches as a team provide a lot of the professional development for our teachers on professional development days throughout the year as well and what did we do I mean this is fairly no having the coaches oh yeah what did we do prior to this or what did we do differently so if maybe you could share what the model was then when you think back to the presentation we did the model was that it was the four the four curriculum Specialists and how it's morphed into the
086seven instructional coaches so prior to last year so 2020 2021 um prior to 2021 2022 um there were four uh content mod content area leaders so Ela and math um at the elementary and the middle uh and so those two those four positions morphed into instructional coaches and then there was an additional three uh instructional coaches which is what was funded originally by arpesser but before um before bringing those people on there was this three-year phase-in plan using making sure that our professor wasn't as Mr Belden had said that Cliff um falling off of you know to to then all of a sudden fund these folks so technology integration coach which is K-12 social studies K-8 and science K8 but last year social studies [Music] you have your uh the curriculum leaders at the high
087school that's and that's not changed and there's there's Harry there's another um presentation from I think it was the first meeting in January and we've uh that Anna did uh on the instructional coaches to the board so that's available in the spotlight and on the Facebook page and anywhere else we can get it to you if you'd like to see it a lot of detail and video from that and we've seen some real live examples of what some of the instructional coaches are doing with the teachers um bringing in uh and the excitement level of the kids is stunning right you know some of these uh more Leading Edge types of programs um where uh they can be more Hands-On instead of being a curriculum writer who does your thing in the summer and then
088and then everybody has to then get a roll out in PD day now it's more live and interactive and that's actually you can feel it when you see the kids you know we do the spotlights with the kids they've come and shown us some of them and it's like it's kind of it's fascinating to see the reaction and of the kids and what they're learning from it so in addition during our strategic planning conversations there has been a lot of focus on how the instructional coaches can help roll out the Strategic plan in the in the classrooms for our teachers and that was coming from teachers the members of the Strategic plan who were the teachers thank you sure so along those lines if it were not for the ARP Esser and similarly on the
089town side we just kind of landed this money landed in our laps and we you know on the school side I like how you you built it into the plan to roll it out but I'm just going back to last year could you please refresh my memory as to how these items were identified and if our ARP and our arpa and our best son ever came along we would have been in here asking for them as Investments right so but John why don't you talk about how we came to the priority this was a priority list of shoes sure so so we had been looking in in that area um anyway um I think the pandemic put everybody on fast forward with technology so the technology integration specialist uh instructional coach was really straightforward I
090don't think that needs much much explanation as Anna talked about earlier we had the four they were correct called curriculum specialists in ela and Math middle and uh Elementary School and so the thought process was we're not providing that live embedded support in social studies and in science and we need to um and so how could we holistically as a district move this forward and what we thought was a cost-effective way and take advantage of the opportunity of having the grant grant monies um we really are cognizant of not being administrator heavy and so we want to take our teacher leaders expert teachers that maybe we hire from the outside or our existing veteran teachers who are really hold a lot of credibility and have a lot of respect in the district that can bring
091this kind of work forward to our staff and if I could just add in addition um the you know as the state has developed more specific standards to content areas um that actually create an interdisciplinary approach to curriculum instruction and assessment so there are the um you know the ngss standards the science standards as well as the social studies Frameworks have come out in the last six to eight years and so this is something and then there's been an adjustment to graduation requirements and one of the things another theme you're going to hear as we roll out the Strategic plan is the idea of a K-12 real intentional focus with the portrait of The Graduate so that our students are working on those developing those skills and dispositions starting in pre-k and all the way
092up in these These are transferable skills and that is something that in the realm of curriculum instruction and assessment has been very important to really have an intentional link not just for our students and our families but also for our teachers so that they see that you know while you're doing a an Ela lesson there's a lot of science that you can bring in that there's a lot of social studies you can bring into that same thing in math there's a lot of interdisciplinary approaches because we're looking at transferable skills that are based in content knowledge but are able to be you know transferable up through all of the grades and then post high school for our Student Success yeah one more quick question let me just let me just add to that a little
093bit so there's a this is the list of all the things John and Dr Ruby at the time brought us a whole list of things that they wanted us to consider on the art passer um and so they've done a lot of Staffing prioritizing thinking it through in addition to the instructional coaches which and the technology integrator which is the bulk of this right summer school we hadn't had summer school and a regular Ed summer school in Brookfield in a while we had special ed summer school es what would you call the esy program but that kids there were kids who were not special ed who really had needs so this was an opportunity and we'd like to keep that going that was a priority uh and the others are uh just needs of kids
094it was the math tutor and the center and the occupational therapy and social worker type of roles were things that we were observing and they came to the hot the top of the list so um so we did much like the town did they had a priority list they you know we had uh some money that we knew we didn't spend and uh doctor Ruby brought us a prioritized list there were things on it that we didn't do and they may be in our future but uh when you think about supporting mental health and you think about learning loss and of course always working to enhance the instructional core that's exactly what we're doing here you can see that's representative what do you feel you're missing and how do you plan to build that out
095but we don't have to talk about it this year no no no no that and and it will come out as as we talk about our strategy one of the things you would do you will I want to come show you on the strategy work after we roll it out to the board which I think is in March probably initially March yeah um uh the we've had a whole committee working on the strategy but that will set the table for the next five years right much like our last strategies at the table for what we've been working on the last this current you know the new school and you know all the fiscal Integrity stuff all of that was in our strategy so we've now kind of we're about to lay out the road map
096which will then set the table for what the next needs will be right and uh we're facing those challenges with things that perhaps we didn't know we needed like a town nurse and our Behavior our health liaison and how do you roll that in with no money that's exactly right so the price tag for the for the coaches kind of in general is it in that 90 to 110 000 range price yeah so well yeah like this this is 90 000 and 110. yes it depends where the coach falls on the salary range but they're usually more experienced teachers so they would be higher on the Range okay I think to clarify all this this was all what presented to us last year it was this was all agree this is actually the same this
097is the same chart this is the same chart this is what was agreed to last year's budget so this is not any new data no to any of us corrections I don't I don't think either of the any of the grant funded stuff isn't nothing new there right this is all straightforward presented to us last year agreed upon last year as part of going forward of the three-year initiative correct that's exactly right thank you is there anything coming up over the next few years that we should be aware of mandates new educational requirements is there anything out there that's going on everyone looks at Anna so the actually the hottest one that's going on right now is there's a big Push by the state to um to revamp every District in the state on pre-k
098through three English language uh Reading Writing curriculums to what they call the science of reading type of model and the for us we look at our curriculums periodically by the way that mandate Steve came in said not only do you have to do it we have to do it this year right um and so what we're we look at our curriculums period every curriculum we look at we just want to get it we're actually asking for the waiver to do it at our Pace right because we have to have a pretty good reading curriculum right now but we are at we're at the point where it's time to be looking at it and soccer man has already kicked off that work but it would be in the normal course and we don't want it to
099become a budget bubble for us that would be kind of silly to us but it came across as a mandate interestingly enough and to the point where we talked to all our legislators about it and said you guys Gotta Give the districts time to make the decisions they need to make and I think that we're probably going to get that I hope the time extension yeah we're going to do the waiver when they but we have now just asked for a year and a half extension another District so that's the only I think big mandate that's rolling on us right now but you know every time you turn around there's a new one right um so it's uh we're always monitoring what's going on at the state legislature and and if you actually if you
100want to make your head spin you look at the proposals that are put on the table in every January by the by the legislatures and some of those make your your hair burn because there's every idea Under the Sun of what they want to require to school districts to do but they never make it out of committee so yeah you have to stay calm when you see those proposals because there's a lot of things that are people's ideas that we're going to have to have this kind of education and this kind of education this kind of education this kind of education and so I'm usually calm until I start seeing what the Committees are doing so foreign any other questions any comments from the Board of Ed I mean you guys have been living through
101this process Rosa you let you did a great job of leading us through the the whole uh q a and budget process I've got to give you a lot of credit on that sport of it supporting this budget across the board or is that a loaded question what was our problem six one it was a six one vote okay thank you and and by the way the sixth one vote I won't speak to the for the one vote but it was after right after our discussion of do we need a dean of students or do we not need a dean of students and so that was that was a lively debate for us okay that's helpful thank you okay so that's thank you so much thank you thank you all for listening and I do
102expect we'll have continued Lively discussions and I hope this was useful to you um so uh with without um without objection I'll adjourn the Board of Education meeting foreign