001[Music] Oh good evening everyone this is Tuesday March 12th I called this special meeting of the Board of Finance order and I call the Association do it okay we are gathered here tonight to discuss the Board of Education budget but first we have any members of the public that would like to give comments hearing and seeing none we'll move on to a bunch of discussion for the proposed Board of Education budget did anyone have anything that they wanted to discuss at the 4th rows or because we did get the tribe board presentation at this a month ago right and we also got the Board of Selectmen scut there was there was something that back when were selecting the first select was covered we have these specific questions I know Glenn and Ricky had a question
002I forwarded to collect I apologize from the lane getting back to you that I did that side answer back or would that be a good place to start if you have any questions or concerns we weren't going to do that a presentation I guess or so really we're just here to answer any questions you may have or if we need to about anything yes so we got Marshall put together a summary of budget adjustments they just I'm trying to call it up here where the First Selectman I believe reduced the Board of Education proposal by about four hundred eighty thousand and the Board of Selectmen and back about four oh five so that leaves a kind of about seventy four thousand no no actually they added back 275 the other part of it would be
003the adjustment of relating to the situation which is not actually it's put on to the education side clips it's yes so the they put that get to submit by the action reduction each AmeriCorps ask yes alright see you did mention that last as it right now by the word likely you have any thoughts on that if you would like ignore the genesis of that of that proposal and what I actually discuss with them please I believe the worst our personal Eggman when he put forth the budget to be order selectmen just took out all of the men investments as well as the non lab segment which is how they came out he came about with the 407 thousand hours I what I understood he he had thought that the net investments were all nice to
004have where in all reality there are some of them that are must-haves and we have discussed that last time so them to the point that whether this budget goes through whether it's through no matter how much this budget is reduced we must include these in next year's budget and so we will have to make adjustments and reductions otherwise and I do have a copy of that as well it was something that was retitled from [Music] [Applause] memories and under those in essence some very related to things that had to happen for bill investments they were connected to so that's not new it's just you know I don't think I all right through so I can remember I can go through these if you like the first one is a pre-k teacher we spoke about that
005are our numbers are large our classes so much are proportion is not the 50-50 that we need we have to have this teacher in order to reduce class sizes and keep the fifteen percent proportion that we that we are starting to speech-language pathologist goes along with office abuse which pathologist for the preview program the caseloads are too large and by having this this position be able to eliminate the contractional needs or our pre-k program or speech-language pathologists special education teacher at the high school again our special education teachers miss oats are too large they need to reduce finally the paraprofessionals the 88 paraprofessionals these quite frankly is just to stay in compliance of the IPS we have students IPS which necessitated our one-to-one pair and these pairs will be four that we have to give
006that in order to maintain compliance be great one through five science modules we started the rollout of the Smithsonian science module program this is to to to update our science curricula for the next generation science standards we're going to start having science being tested on the yearly basis in Saturday we have to have a curriculum in order to address what the Muslim City tested on and the great fortified reading program this is one that started great hunt through three it's a it's a necessity in order to continue the valuable literacy skills that were teaching our our students so if we subtract out the contracted services that we will be able to find cushion C's for not only with this but throughout the district then we do get the total of 275 to 34 which is
007what I have presented to the Board of Selectmen as well what did the Board of Selectmen not add back um well they didn't have back two hundred and four thousand dollars and in their mind that was just the total of the net investments - this - 75 so the other net investments is that what you're asking yeah okay so technically though they're just not in Beck might fit it's not items because ultimately it's the Board of Education decision as far as what to spend the money on but in their mind I think what they had thought would be the other net investments which would be the ASL teacher the strength conditioning coach the extracurriculars at whisk in here there's a business team leader customer s team a program in the world language program thank you
008does that mean ASL is located behind adoption it depends um I mean but we work with the labor camp right now actually our high schoolers and are already signing up for classes next year and so if we have a significant demonstration of need in the ACL ASL program and perhaps not as much in French say then we may change our teachers to to have my program dr. Ruby could speak more to that I don't have the latest numbers but we can happen though there were more students signed up for ASL than for French there's a there's a huge push and there's a huge push it was just a big article in one of the major newspapers the other day on ASL and how it's just in the country and how colleges are you know it's
009accepting that credit and there's a great interest you know so we have you know if we can't hire the ASL teacher and have that program go forth we will have to change French no we have students we have students who are taking Christ but we have we just have to have more of that time phrase okay thank you what's the board's reasoning for putting ASL before something like Chinese let's say they're you know a large section of the world right and economics and everything like that is trending in that part of the world and people that are maybe between 12 and 16 17 years old or going to see a big influence of that culture and let's say of that language versus no daresay a smaller population of ASL speakers ASO is actually the fourth
010most studied language and couches studied study about use-apply is this like a liberal arts thing no this is this something where people want to take it because it's it's a trend or something that is accepted it's just the Chinese understand slide that's more important we're going to put $5,000 for that versus something where populations in the world is poised to be very relevant here there was many surveys done actually to determine what will third additional language I can't go to the whole language would strike the most interest and ASL was above the top the top priority for both students and community and parents as well if the interest is not there we could have all of the teachers you know that we had and the classes wouldn't get filled in addition it's easier to find
011ASL teachers than it is some of the other language teachers so again we can offer it but if we can't fill it with a language teacher then it's useless classes what I think you said everything what I've done touched on it is the the surveys it wasn't decided by a teacher or by administrators it was just the survey was sent out to students parents and community members and it was for all three groups overwhelmingly number one there was also a great presentation by mrs. Holly given to the Board of Ed I don't remember the date but it's probably very informative and it wasn't even just based on the surveys it was it was data in there to support it I know that you driving for a third language in this little skirt but number of
012years it's been a long-term goal we've also been pushing for having the language lab in the middle school and expanding that programs that one a priority over you I know that the world language lab in the middle school requires more capital funding is there well if we can't put a world language lab in the middle school that's commensurate with the one that we have put it in the high school we that we could do a workaround for the time being it would be it wouldn't offer all the opportunities that the world language laughs with flute offer but when we came down to looking at how to prioritize things we spoke with our common our technology directors see how we could you know put something together to get by through this next year if you know
013it's not going to afford students the same opportunity as the language lab but you know we have to make tough decisions there anything can expunge it that is it being included in this budget because it was cut last year with the reduction that's not being active is being this year's budget because it was cut from last year's budget um well what language that was taken out of last year's production since back in this year at least what we do the lists will start to consultant priority approving the budget service but I think that's about it so what would a 2 percent decrease from the format requested budget how would that impact you guys overall 2% increase speakers decrease from here the department requested budget was currently being requested from the department might repair did you
014need more education hundred thousand dollars we'll start there Wow it would be okay I'm serious $800,000 quite frankly meet last year to achieve the five hundred thousand average savings we did a lot of efficiencies Trude as much as we can we don't have anymore secretary positions or custodian assistance administrative positions to really reduce that much $800,000 there were positions not only you looking at positions you're probably looking at teachers I will let superintendent to work looking at increasing class sizes as we produce teachers we would still have to be specifically the areas of special education the three to five positions which is two pairs and three teachers still need to have those to be in compliance oh we have to have those so we have to look in other areas where we have to meet
015procedure cuts so you're increasing class size you're lessening program offerings soon that's what would happen Seabees drinking at just know are from our process would you would dictate our process and whatever you say is the number we would have to go back to the drawing board figure figure out what we do but what you would do could also help dictate what what draw number that's I mean I'm telling you yeah uneducated to get to that number you have you're talking people in eighty percent of our budget is people is a service-oriented business so there isn't more toilet paper to cut there isn't more copy paper to nut and move away from anymore we reduce a Soviet position administrative position of secretarial position Clark positions last year with a five hundred thousand dollar cut that you're
016talking about so we've already gone on the human side of things and so we would have even go further because you know we're talking about cabling again we'd have to look at some particular materials and then we wouldn't say a horse flesh strategic plan that impacts learning because you need tools to teach gets injured measles in there has mean regular critical health so sure one of the things that I talked about last week at the board meeting was that while if you don't hear complaints from us a regular basis about the impact of the cuts that we made last year if you talk to parents and faculty members the physicians that we cut last year the the clerk's that supported special education secretary some of those positions we feel those every day and we get
017complaints because we're not able to deliver the services that people expect from you know a school system when we don't have bodies and it what we did last year affects us every day what I just asked about holiday you're not know so you're still not going to mess with your elections in order for those American cookie we have the five-year strategic coherence plan where we're trying to take the districts from where it was three years ago to where it needs to be in just that five year period and built into that plan if you look at are all of the curriculum instruction their learning needs for to bring the school district in alignment with the current standards which we weren't in line with and so the items everything that is in the budget that's curricular
018some of the end and then the enhancements of eating people is being compliant for special ed those are all part of a strategic plan that was laid out three years ago so it's these aren't things that like we we sat around and thought oh this will be really great we could do this it's it's all part of a plan that's been there and so since we have to stay on track to meet those educational goals that we in order for our students to be prepared for college compared for jobs even compared prepared to go into the military if that's what they choose to do we have to maintain the the program development that we set out to do so do we need those positions that we cut last year absolutely but we couldn't put we
019can't have everything so we could put those back in and take away from the strategic plan which we have to complete because we're already thinking about what the next strategic plan will be because we're coming to the end of this one so I don't know if that if that helps yes it enrages one less piece thanks for saying that in case the special education those numbers are ever evolving and so with the increased enrollment with most students with special needs that's driving the compliance issues it's all kind of train of thought Ricky's number of person introduction 800 was catastrophic skies fallen there's 200 that's in here now which is acceptable so that seems to be the bid-ask if you will what is there a number that you think the point if the safe was four
020on before it gets you to the out of two point nine percent that we were looking at its model back and wall I mean again I know you not think a specific move over that curve so that would be an additional way you sing I just an addition to each other they didn't know it or install a corner to corner poll addition to the two hundred senators left narrating there that's like course let mary has so globe wolf my I mean we'll find it somewhere it'll will have to again these capital forward so well we'll look for it somewhere I can I sit here and say exactly where what happened now we have to go would have to look at it and I can't speak to that without the full court here because that's a
021decision that that has to so you said it was a bit ask right Dennis we still would like the money that you asked for it's not like we said oh that's fine I need that that the money that's been taken away so far by the Board of Selectmen is to take away from the programs that we support felt were important right you know where we would just urge you to consider those cuts again in addition to making what you're looking at going the other way I will tell you that what we went through this budget we were some very sensitive to the increase in spending year-on-year that's why we didn't put in some of those positions we scrub the status of all budget which is in your book that you receive that look at line
022by line to make sure there was a flaw for fat in there that I didn't find at any right so what you're looking at is a sense role budget that's basically flat year year or contractual purposes plus this list - that's all it's something so that says if you're if you're going to reduce from top level it will definitely be fewer teachers administrators staffs or custodians nurses somewhere and that's going to be a heart that would be a heart bit for us to deal with let alone going the other way which is we've already taken away the things that would be good for our students in terms of new programs that the particular those those those pay me immensely and with because that's not a favorable so I wouldn't call what it did that's paramount
023right it's it's it's these are always hard discussions I mean I know they are because you're over here the batch rate at the same time you have to fight your schools so damage and the model right that the Board of Finance had gone through after Town Hall and since it was brought up I think it needs to be awesome that that model is not necessarily for you to put stock into right but more of a Board of Selectmen Board of Finance tool to gauge where we are in relation to where we think we need to end up when the school project comes on board everything like that in favor throw that out there if we do talk about the models and unnecessarily that the Board of Education because you don't need to follow the guidelines
024right and it's just this is something that we need to keep in mind when we were evaluating a town that that service the Board of Education the whole package but you're actually what you're saying is you'll never meet the model because what you're adding it not with the necessities blows the model out every year you can't pull back any of these positions these aren't any one-time costs so this milling in five is going forward every year when your model only shows a million going forward every year so how do you what's the million five million five is you can't claw back that's going to be included in the budget every year a million times of your assets right now your teachers they're these 20 other these positions are one-time they're all gone over all your
025salary increases are eighty percent you just talked about or send your gum that was on the hall it's that angry these positions now weren't in the mouth but they are in the mountain now as opposed to club is resource and talk about 3.6 3.7 so these are positions that are going away these are positions that are always going to continue to be there so we don't have like a net crawl back anywhere so as this goes how do we stay within the model how do you stay within a million dollars spend every year because you're spent there's on the ability of dollars all right it goes up for about a million to every year that just spends in the mop in the model then we sold the school line then we we basically say nice
026numbers the border that never ever and I said I agree they didn't commit to recommend a sound we looked at the depth that we could carry we look these numbers that we could carry and that that is our cross to bear after we have this discussion with them when they present the needs of the school and then we go their deliberations and see how what they're asking for with the words that we put forward for this department essentially fits in with the whole plan of the town I'll agree with that but also we didn't account for the 130 teachers pension we didn't account for a $300,000 decrease of ECS the town takes a hit monsters from another four hundred thousand dollars built into town expenses that aren't on this side so this is where I
027think Dan doing the muffler's we got a plea support of the school's total in the new school heartless thing we supported a unified force everybody preached new school nobody was negative and here we are with these decreases ECS and everything the model becomes more important to be in down the road here in this state try to stay closer than 3% increases to me that's what we thought my finding build this model if we weren't like making it - based on the border financed besides the size to make reductions to be in line with this model than Soviet but that's not the point of the meeting tonight to hold them to let that model set the point of tonight is to understand the needs of all right I agree that Amelia that's not gonna head of
028the SS and I understand ideally we would understand the impact of this would be that this couple exactly disagrees with me that agrees but I understand that without going back to this so so so it so in a sense it is out of the number some way the vacuum tube it to a slot and that's just the way it was yeah I tried to do that while I was sitting yeah I'm in a hole one year and it was really hard because you just can't find yourself trying to make decisions with two equal pieces is more to that and the Board of Ed that might hear a lot when i was yougner sure about so I'm gonna disagree a little bit I think the meeting is about we're trying to say hey we're trying to
029hold a 3% and we're looking for them to say maybe we can help we support the schools we're asking for like a 3% is a number we're looking at what can they come back and come back to us and say hey we've really looked at this and we understand the position you're in we understand the position you sold the town well you know I think it's a process different question becomes a different approach to this as well that's the approach that kind of you know that we're all in this together we're all in this is a town and we built this thing to look for we went through these things these models and everything else and it's 3% why I can't be safety what were the 3% marketing what would that really impact is 40
030something million dollars it's not a lot of money to get down to 5% at what 5% we're not talking the end of the earth what can you do to help us what can you do that help us to maintain our goals that's right Rama look do you think that 3% something that has to be as generator I think we built a 20-year model you can't get the first year back throat a mile away garbage you can't get your one out of the gate right there Joe I would never be able to been getting on your first yeah no I understand your point but part of the challenge we're hands and that's to be very frank what we're in a interesting cycle with special education that as you know last year grow up a lot of
031costs and this year and this year interestingly enough what we're going through the current year we're seeing exposures due to special education and as you can see in this budget for next year we're seeing exposure to the special education those tend to come and go over time having washed it over many years I mean I am hoping that there's a point where we go over the topic we don't have 30 kids and under source in and out place positions because of the nature of the finding of the kids and the things and we get money back in those years so I don't know whether 3% in a world where you're in this increasing situation with special ed is necessarily the right answer it might deal in the long run that you have somewhat limited we
032have some high years and you know some low gears so that's point number one point number two we are in a position where we have strategic plan to try and invest in certain things in the schools that will make our schools better that was part of the 5-year plans place is rolling out new curriculums they're statewide curriculums and things we're doing it that was input into your mind it wasn't so that's a that's something that I know floats slightly above the model and I don't know how to blend tell you that we could go take out other programs to compensate for them that's that's how it would be a struggle though it means I take away from our kids I think we should worry about all right let's go back a specially track is special
033that I think that's special that has increased the trend is its increasing for the past four years I bet you see significant increases so to say we're gonna see a drop-off we're seeing I don't foresee that the trend line tells me that's always going to be a crunching then the school system from the point of the spending and across what you should do go on so don't think I'm not important but the trend shows and the demographics of the town with these we're bringing in these apartments and everything else the trend is your at your special that's going on we've shown in every graph that mr. brill shown with last four years this youngest one to say that we're gonna see an ebb and a flow I think is maybe but I think the more
034more line is it's going to increase every year I don't think we're expecting to see fewer special ed students I think what we're hoping for is to be able to service them in-house more more than we can now - right but I see I lived through that too I lived through the outsource the other two insourcing I lived through that that growing up I lived through that we're gonna bring it in-house we're gonna reduce overheads by so much you know outsourcing let me brew overheads what you had to because you have to meet I still think it's increasing thing it's increased every year that watch this number is increasing I've never once said one of these meetings in the past five years in her special that decreased and I gotta live over 15 years I
035have that's why I well they're also dealing with eight percent like different things and I were up to thirteen percent correct and your T's forty percent so that eight percent yes I agree but now we're at a new era where 40 percent it's a whole to me as a different that might be I just that they all you need is a handful of the whole place kids and then changes your equation for doubtedly so that's why again I come back to this model and trying to hold it as tight as possible position does cost you can't control and that's what we've got a garden yeah cuz and without this list we were at three percent Oh I just wish we didn't have these outside influences house my backup said yeah I had some questions so
036the pre-k teacher [Music] so this broken down in a binder with salary and benefits so that's the other question it seemed anticipated budget adjustments at $140,000 for the world language lab and those how does that impact the ass 104 thousands total weight 104 thousand is an offset 25,000 to be for the Chromebook revenues and 79 thousand one hundred eighty four hours from the non lapsing fun okay so that's why I said me yep yes world hangers I chose of the new all right this is a 2000 that's not the world that much lettuce is believe it or not that's mostly the software and some Chromebooks with it would be on a cart that we go as a class we have asked and this is prior to us knowing even further the referendum is under pass
037because with that and we're having 25% the students out we might actually be able to have a will it's permanent world language left at which time we can take the wrong language the mobile lab and kind of pretty much install it into a classroom so it's not in the talking about the next year's budget proposal bottom line you know just be reoccurring job could you provide us have a breakdown of what's increasing the benefits weather-wise wider benefits is going on 425,000 the salary increases are 685 just as disproportional I guess what's just driving that I can cry thank you I think that was actually it was have no doubts I thought that was in one of the questions with education saying I can take that part of the reason it's disproportional is a health benefits
038increases are going up close to 80 percent versus salaries going up at 3% so why that's the biggest single reason you would see a different ality than the second piece family appliances yes so but I had the exactly right now look we are we are added entering it don't ya so lovely in two pages here is wholly asked for so I have a draft of the kafir' that we went through the tool editor today and one of the schedules is very funny actual variances and you know on the town side most of the a lot of the most of the variances are zero or four figures and on the for that side there's lots of bearings is to budget some quite large into now it's managing to a tool bottom line but on line by
039line and there's lots of variances that are better sizable so I'm wondering if the budget that in percents is where you met kind of night how you manage my item by line item to get to the bottom line and is it more of a a guideline that you may manage during the course of the year review but when you do look at the budgets and manage that lets you manage a line item by line on basis yes absolutely detective we're gonna get variances so dance less what we do is we actually get out of budgets to the schools at line item by line item and we put additional controls in TSO in terms of approval on things that may be brought in you know most of the budget is salary as she life example ken
040manages the employee benefits costs directly manages this transportation contract directly manages the facility stuff directly the schools have very individual line items that they managed but in a large organization like this stuff happens you know you got somebody who goes out on eternity unpaid maternity and you have to go hire a substitute so you know having an overrun of the substitute line in under on the salary line we're constantly dealing with that so what we have as a Finance Committee will actually reviews this every month line item by line item to make sure we're understanding why things are changing and what options are we taking to make sure we can actually care that but yeah and so are there when there is when there are overruns who's ever going to be yeah do us chair
041of that committee already know areas that you can pick from we actually lost some of those last night yes we improve them up there and that it actually goes to the full board and the full board has to vote that was the fun of it we've been working on our policies to nature that was tight controls with all this gone on in the district one of the things we did was put a budgetary control module and where they carry thanks to the board for budget change before this one which is that helpful but in any case we do for example we had just last nineteen that we saw some exposures on couple special ed situations that were actually increases and we had a very active discussion with mr. post about what what are the areas
042that we should be freezing now right but you know Paul in a couple months left me over here so that we can make our number so very active and conscious you know focus when things like that to us including listen we're gonna have to those who freezes on discretionary like we did last year said you I hate to do that but that's that's what we had had a couple of extra students one one show up it is a desperate one more we have to send them out of district so it's it's it's just something you had to deal with constantly you know thanks I change any of those changes material enough supervise what's been presented here we asked that last night and yes thirty forty foster homes I mean it's a lesson swimming but tactical
043intent by the way why we've offered this in the past we would love to have one of the members of the Board of Finance come sit with us and we this town controller this is Mary Ann has joined us and it's been very productive in terms of communication and getting things done so I would offer that continue to offer that to the Board of Finance at once it'll be great [Music] we do post Animas and and we you know it's it's a great plug we do things like we review every suspended for over a thousand dollars right that's from the vestiges of problem we had a couple of years ago and make sure that where our board is actually looking at those we look at the budget reports we talk about the issues of the
044day we talk about the budget you know the budget process of selling to an activity fund a lot of different puffs allotted last night for example so it's a good it's a my brother I was very comforted in hearing that you have that line by line scooting on your side to be succulent so he actually said the word discretion so you said that you have some discretion when you bring out Hector you realize you you're going to be possibly have to count for additional special ed costs and you're looking elsewhere in your budget especially areas where you can pull that where are those areas it's usually supplies some supplies at the school level so it's books it's textbook purchases it's there things that I think that are very pertinent but they're things you can tactically
045deal with you know sliding out forty thousand dollars you have a 40 million dollar budget you would tactically manage that you'd have to cut back on some IT purchases you'd cut you know okay we're not gonna have as many new Chromebooks this year right of course you don't want to do those but it's things you have to do on one percent of your budget you know what that sort of thing happens because I was on the conference all the orders today well Dan did he finished with a $66,000 surplus so basically your way that the plane is I hope you board set which is really where do you want to be but what you also want to doing is coming up in these discretionary areas and look to say hey is this really what we
046need runs business and that's what we do in the budget it's totally that's exactly what we do in the bunch of manages and unfortunately the last couple of years because of special ed growth as we talked about with mr. Romeo a couple minutes ago we have had to go squeeze out all those nice don't call nice necessary things we do in the classrooms and dr. ruby has been bending our ear every time we have a budget about me a lack of classroom library so that's what we would love to have a year where we don't have supplies right what we planned you just add John a particle last year not whatever increases especially all the uncertainty of the state budget last year and so we froze very early on the school level settings so that
047impacted why we had the circles so early Oh son school operated have any questions or comments on the capital request the new school was approved only be looking at half over so we've Alliance that was presented as this is section seven have priorities changed when you did this budget a couple months ago right have any of your priorities changed as far as what you were planning and capital money or the these projects and then anything a pink just as a reminder with our key there goes wage I think this is consistent we will be not notice likeness cut it off than any paving and concrete course at our school is decreased that's it that's Josh [Music] just kind of a a comment for my personal ad I understand as we ask for a budget that
048meets the school's business and that's really where were you presented to us and you know I think it's short-sighted to cut the budget by cutting programs that have been asked for for years and we can't just we can't stay stagnant because we're trying to reach a number we need to have smart decisions money issues which is what you guys work do so I I do want to make sure that we're supporting a budget that goes out to the voters that gives us the programs that we need and progresses the stores are our goals so I I understand the 3% line of you know I personally don't feel that that something needs to move ourselves to just a for the record I'm looking at the selectmen budget the paving a concrete for senator was introduced just
049to sixty seventy five hundred it's completely bedroom there's no reduction completed just FYI [Music] just leave as our surprise thank you yep all right I'm gonna know now that paving at centers apartment isn't something that can get by yeah I don't think we can get by at like a better facility director of to explain [Music] noise so what we did in evaluating the the paving on this team with the help of tacked on at our our capital projects in mind we look at their base sent forth us their evaluation existing conditions so put these numbers together we utilize unit pricing sweater fluids slurry arts that will allow us to expand project based on funding that's available we also try to limit it to certain areas of section so we doing facing not knowing I was
050useful project marinara receipt so specific questions about quantities I think the amount that we left there was to do the loop around the back of the building correct that's the worst you just spend the need of that sure so throughout the paint area at Central Elementary School there's a tremendous amount of erosion there's been no maintenance on that parking lot and I worked here for four years and with the exception of some some hot patching cold patch of potholes we have not done any work at Central Elementary so just normal erosion and lack of a news program for that it's beyond the point where we get to every surface just about anything we do would require milling and perhaps without knowing the existing conditions underneath would require full base removal and reinstallation so again we've
051got anymore and I did not bring an operating center with me but the unit pricing would be Oh you know paving correct thumb again prioritizing so when we looked at paving as a whole existing conditions with with tech time that was the number one issue throughout facilities and so we went through and sectioned off buildings phasing similar to paper projects that we did that was here we have a four or five phases including doing any single project so this is one of the back this is student entrance parent drop-off rather it's a very constricted area we might not for passenger car our oil delivery we have to perforce do you have a small factory all the way around these use that with not the actual oh the combination of a combination combination because it's so
052narrow it's kind of rolling lay on the sides and coming narrower yeah that's New Testament so there's an what is that what's the need over the next three years today I mean obviously if this were useful once one but I mean is there a state concern is there uh is there a liability concern that that a parent's gonna drive through in Carroll out of it are sue or or is this something that'll make you know life easier but not necessarily Memphis area the next three years well this school is an operation there's an ad hoc committee and determinable to do with the property sure so along those lines safety issue because it's no longer a smooth seamless surface anywhere it's it's been broken up through the fog Frost and moisture has penetrated throughout so one
053is this year this time of the year's most prevalent losses in the ground frost heaves drivers pick up and they they don't settle back so there there's a tremendous amount of degradation on that paper you can pick a spot I think I think the section around the loop because it has a great amount of activity certainly there are trip hazards throw out some of those we maintain through general maintenance some grinding of concrete in the past the lower raised surfaces not really an option with the asphalt surfaces they're just they're broken so the 900,000 that was completely redo it from scratch is it yeah no I'm sorry let's not bring this yeah that was reduced replace all pavement sidewalks and curbing except for the main entrance Plaza these playground walkway and how much longer is
054sin still going to be used and 398 status so if you know what you were going to do with it would you still feel very strongly that that was a long expenditure it's a bond for 20 years that's not with the stunt uses necessary conferred for safety security of so if if we spend my selfie if we weren't there if we weren't to to look a full-blown replacement if we were to skip any subjects you paving on top of unstable material you wouldn't get the longevity out of that project yeah three days you will get three years out of it can we get that price I don't want to speak for the board knows what I think don't make any major shooting that's the logic behind that I like I said on so we looked
055at some of these some of this paving initially with with just a a mill and resurface and then some that comes out completely within new subjects so we can evacuate some you know pricing on on that I think it's pretty easy to define that we also have square footage show areas I mean I'll say that's my opinion at it it's not a doing it's a theorist it's not impacting instruction there's no reason to do that's fine but so so my question is is there an imminent safety risk to its best question I hesitate to say yes to that I think yes sir to find out don't be kids play on this don't they also has this they don't they class already winter time they're not up there on this utilizing I don't think they play
056on that it's bigger I said oh thanks yeah it's been softer daytime Sun make they have that area Jack's party hazard birding by the children I'd say there should be at least something for tonight knowing what goes on center school so you could call the principal hangs around this part of all this hair of activism does that change the question around from dance with you pretty fast anything else any other capital items can you describe the security upgrades that are gonna be going into the school we aren't if if you we are happy to bring you an executive session it may or may not include things like extra cameras security software PA system pointing hardware issues though the penalties but again we'd be happy to have anybody I needed to executive session sessions on that
057you talk more freely in their hub yes thank you and if you have any further questions just send them to you know your secretary chair and they'll important to us and we're happy to answer some camp you're in seeing that leadership for this