001[Music] education meeting to order and if we could all please rise for the Pledge of Allegiance pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation that was a great ledge of Allegiance for everyone here we have a full board member this evening and first up something I'm very happy about and it's a spotlight with the center school just sailing could come up okay they're gonna stand up in a minute thank you for having us this evening the steaming we are going to feature the kindergarten play workshop in mrs. Sean Knapp's room and we brought some students with us this evening this workshop is modeled after a reading or writers workshop and what we wanted to feature for you tonight is how this workshop
002focuses on helping students develop executive functioning which isn't a very important part of children's education executive functioning serves is the command and control function in your brain it's important because it helps you manage all of your life skills and tasks and it's a part of you that helps you organize and plan so executive functioning helps you learn to follow directions control your impulses focus be patient pay attention take turns and persevere so if you think about a student and and just you functioning in your everyday life you can think about why those are so important to you and that's why they're called executive functioning executive functioning is really important to learning to read which our students are doing to write right now because mostly because executive functioning helps you learn to hold on to information
003as you're moving through for example a new word sounding out a word as you're helping learn with words with multiple meanings as you get older things like passive voice and of course focusing essentially executive functioning when we talk about play workshop gives students a chance to in a way that is integrated into the workshop a chance to work on planning following directions their impulse control learning to persevere to focus on something to work on their patience and on taking turns so I'm going to turn this over to Sean and to her children too them show you how all of these skills are worked into their play workshop every day so you want the movie I'm okay so first shot go ahead in November we're reading about the Mayflower [Music] Thank You chef we made more
004rank it on paper we have to we made the reindeer stand out drop remember us to miss be a setting to Savannah capital the reindeer moves we notice you have to do the well snow and the white glass and the payment for Eddie's house payments iceberg why because to sent down how do they stand up to lose you have to what tools as you try to use the midgets teenagers because if you use you have to keep trying keep trying to put an content knowledge [Music] and tell everyone in prison because write something games [Applause] so as the class stated we've been studying the Mayflower and we're prepared to build a replica of the ship new leaders emerged each day as the children turns the siding what tools could be used to build the Mayflower
005as children are seemingly more used to playing with toys that look identical to the real thing building the imagination muscle is more important now than ever our class began sketching the ship by planning out various ways to build it using small straws and connectors we then move to a larger representation of straws once a plan was in place the children took turns placing straws communicated about where to put the connectors and persevered as their plan succeeded and failed right we had some hard times after Thanksgiving the majority of the class's excitement had teared out because the December holidays had edged a little closer but to determine ladies persevered they're here tonight Lillian and Riley were not going to give up on their plans as they work together to bend and shape the straws they built
006something that resemble display as the class gathered around their creation the excitement over Santa's sleigh began to build it was clear that the class was once again ready for a challenge each day that the excitement grew their executive functions grew stronger stronger as well if you walked in during play workshop the sound in the room would rival that of a reading or a writing workshop many lessons included partner discussions where students listen to one another and help prioritize what was most pressing to get done that day some days we decided on eating unneeded workspaces and students signed up to work in specific routes other times groups decided to work over multiple days to attend to important tasks we learned how to be patient and to work on a creation over a period of time students
007worked in self created groups to write letters asking to borrow tools they requested library books and wrote reminder notes students took the helm and they followed each other's directions on any given day you might have walked into the room and heard a group of strong individuals trying to determine the best way to go about arranging Santa's furniture with time you would hear two of them argue apologize and then persuade the others in the group to do the same so they could get back to the work of creating Santa's house because they had a job to do when they understood that they needed to compromise to get it done over the years my classes have made Pizza Shops a pet shop for the kids were the pets dunkin donuts with a drive-thru and even an ice-skating
008rink no matter the end result the process of how we got there is absolute thrill in fact by the time the creation is completed the classes are more excited to share their creation with everyone else rather than to actually play in it the opportunity for play as we plan collaborate focus and persevere has happened long before the unveiling of the end result and now the experts would like to share their favorite parts of building santa's village my favorite part of making Santa's Village was cutting my favorite part of making Santa's Village was making penguins I went to cut paper and and add details to make it look that's right [Applause] my favorite part of making Santa's Village was when I made Santa's sleigh because I got to work with blanket million my favorite part of
009naked Santa's Village was when I hope Leticia the old Santa's house and I like helping others my favorite part of making Shanta the villager was well when I brought the book but I I wasn't gonna find the Ranger names but I didn't see rude off [Applause] my favorite Pope I'm making Santa's Village was when me and Isla help Sabrina figure out where the furniture whines because she was getting frustrated and it shook on the top bottom middle [Applause] [Music] thank you for your time and if you have time please stop by g6 we love to show you Santa's Village thank you thank you so much I just like to say something to the children this was a real treat for us so thank you so much for coming out on this super cold night and
010sharing your project with us we really enjoyed it and that was the best movie that I've ever seen on making Santa's Village you guys did a great job I'm so proud of you I love the pictures too good job thank you [Applause] yeah you follow that it's right that is a tough act to follow okay I'm gonna wait just one minute for them to okay next on our agenda we have a comment and we have no one signed up for public comment is there anyone here tonight that would care to make comment okay now we'll move on to the student representative report I've got a relatively quick report tonight everybody's still shaking off all the snow from break tomorrow all Brookfield schools are closed due to 11:00 WMS this Friday group of WS three years
011are going to the seat Association of schools held at Sacred Heart University on Monday will be need a dress band concert Horace Hauser the high school student council is working on putting together a scene Hawkins dance my dear council is working NHS to schedule a midterm he may VHS was included or prices past weekend the article praised our digital digital student course in our community to see of course which is required for all freshmen teaching in fact or fiction online I'll have to thank you [Music] thank you the recommended motion that makes Tuesday Ken and I actually Ken will be attending a our region or western Connecticut superintendent group discussion on having an initial discussion just superintendents and business directors on cooperative services how could we take a look at sharing services and again looking
012for efficiencies and things like we talked about often but really gaining together and spending two-three hours on that conversation and maybe there'll be some things we can bring back to our individual boards so we're pretty excited about that I actually will not be there because I'm going to be this is November night there should be January night I will be at the student voices group I think spending about three hours with mister boland de and a number of different student groups throughout the lunch period here at the high school and just like in the fall when I met with whiskey near 7th and 8th graders it'll be an opportunity to seek student input on you know what are the great things about the high school and what are those things that are challenges and things
013we can improve the next generation of kids coming through so we're pretty excited about that we've postponed it a couple of times due to scheduling conflicts and so we're looking forward to really productive morning next two things the last piece I have to share me to turn over to Ken and then I'll jump in where appropriate immunise update we are ready for the munis full payroll conversion so Ken I'll turn it over to you at the consultant from unis on-site next Monday and Tuesday as a baby for us and we're going to run our first live payroll I'm use we will also be running it on our old system and comparing I believe Eric was going to run one more parallel tests this week just to check the last-minute fixes we made it is not
014and we're basically down to as the consultant told me we're down to the point where all of the settings in the system are working properly the only issues we have is if something some data was imported incorrectly perhaps a wrong account code or something would be charged or or something like that so all of the system settings which are the critical things are correct and working for our most anxiety confident next week we're going to be very successful we're very excited now the other thing that adds to the frankly the joyful engagement of such a project is when you hear from those folks from the outside that have been helping us how good your team has a superintendent to hear this and I really want to share this with the board tonight we received an
015email from Jeff zip lo some of you have met Jeff he's the the major senior consultant from blue Shapiro he was with us from the analysis to the recommendation report and so forth he also consults for the state of Connecticut he's a big part of the chart of a couch transition that's going on throughout the state so not only all over the state but as most of you know blue Shapiro is a business consulting firm that's that's nationwide and he very simple email he sent to Eric Eric was leading back and forth and he said thanks for the update Eric but more importantly congratulations you all have done an incredible job the best client ever double exclamation point I wish I could clone your efforts with other clients happy and healthy New Year to you
016and the team so to hear that from Jeff he's not there to give us compliments he's there to help us through this major project which is two and a half years in the making to get to this point to hear that from him it's high praise and it's legitimate and so that's exciting as well to hear that the team's been working that hard and you know where's Joe there's John John's over there Eric and if it moves sure they've been doing the heavy lifting and it's just we're really excited about it and so I don't know if there was any final questions from the board we will report next week how it goes that's for sure please do and thank you for all your hard work on this he has hard work and that is
017all I have is a retentive report thank you next we have credit reports see first was the personnel and negotiations meeting of the 18th of December and essentially we spent the whole time in executive session discussing superintendent goals so there's really nothing to report on that and next we have the Cayman commit okay so I'll share that the committee did a number of things the first major task that we looked at was the high schools program of studies revisions and for the most part the revisions were a clean up of the program of studies to really reflect with it we were actually offering verse versus some course that continued to stay on the books we weren't particularly offering them anymore some additions there's going to be an additional ll support course that was added to
018the program of study week there was a change in AP weighting to the intro to differential equations and the linear algebra and multivariate calculus course to reflect the fact how rigorous of course that that really is really above AP so it was adding some ap weighting to that there's a new course proposal for ninth grade replacing the current world history course is going to be a new course called global themes well that we'll look at sort of the biggest themes in in the world and and connecting history really to what's happening in the world today and there was a language and proficiency and Steve and C love by literacy addition to the the program of studies as well and really for the most part the rest of it was some minor deletions and Colet myself
019enjoy were in attendance to the meeting and we voted to recommend that the board approve the changes the second big thing that we did was discuss a pilot program that would be for grades K to 8 to use some resources from Smithsonian to address the next generation science standards and dr. Ruby had done extensive research and looked at all sort of different options and really what was exciting about the Smithsonian resources is that they were very closely exactly aligned to the next generation science standards but in a way that was very doable for our current programming in science and it really helped kids work on their inquiry skills questioning skills and it was a way to really look at the skills that will be measured in science in a way that's vertically aligned and that
020would help us with our curriculum planning and this Smithsonian is willing to let us have some of the materials at no charge in we're gonna we could pilot those materials in grades K to 8 in two classes in each grade one module from the program would be piloted and there being again no cost to the district for the pilot and it would also include professional development from Smithsonian as well and based on that pilot we could then go forward and decide is this some curriculum materials that we think are worthy of full adoption which would require some expense and the board members voted to recommend that pilot to the full board as well and in the last major piece of business is the health teachers and phys ed teachers are interested in giving a field
021test to their students to really measure how well are they aligned to the current national standards in their subject and this is called the shape America National Assessment and it was a way for them to get some real data on how are our students how is our curriculum really addressing these national standards and how well our students performing and they really wanted to use the field test as a way to give feedback for the teachers to really think about future curriculum and assessment planning as well so we thought that was also a worthy project as well and the board also agreed that we would present that to the full board as a meeting as well so those were our three big topics of discussion advocating so dr. Rubin we're going to see the the Smithsonian
022texts and video in the shape at the January 17th meeting correct yes and mr. Blin is here to answer any questions that you would have on the program of studies and night any other questions for Jen okay then we'll move to the strategic missile II steering committee okay I really don't have an update as I did the update last month and we haven't met since we're currently waiting the information that checked an associates had requested was provided to them and we are waiting for feedback from them now and once we see that we will be able to hold another steering committee meeting usually I that's my only report on that usually every report on building and facilities I'm not down here may I do that yes we just actually had our meeting tonight first there
023seems to be a bit of confusion between the two committees because I chair both and it does get confusing so I apologize for people that are confused I'll first start with the steering committee the steering committee is a committee we are it is a group of three board members superintendent Morrell and then some community members and we meet and our purpose is to look at the four schools the enrollment the different situations in the school where they're located how everything is set up on and it's we are forming a long term goal in plan of what to do with the four schools in the future the building and facilities committee is different in that we are primarily concerned with the conditions now and in the near future of the schools people tend to confuse both
024so I just wanted to to clarify we had our building and facilities meeting tonight good meeting let's see one of the major things that we did tonight is we have formed some goals of what we want to do over the next year as the committee that I wanted to share with everyone we did tour huckleberry Hill school that that was fabulous it's always different looking at a school system in seeing the issues that were reading upon on the work orders as opposed to just reading actually getting there we met with the principal diamond she took us for a tour around mr. Caldwell was there also and we got to look in spaces that were of concern so we have decided being that that once so well we would actually in the future like to look
025at each one of the schools and tour those what we're looking for is the condition of the schools the different rooms how they're being used in coming up with thoughtful ideas of how we may be able to use that space better or more efficient and look at the storage that we have to try to reallocate some of the areas so it is easier and better for our students on our teachers to operate because that's really what we're here for is to provide the best possible resources that we can so that is one of our goals that we're going to be working on another issue that we're working on is we're going to be meeting and talking about our capital plan and working down the items that we have and getting them done set realistic goals
026work on work on what we feel needs to get done and have it accomplished and be done with another area that we talked about was you know communication with the community I can sit and I can talk all along about what we do and we can sit and we can meet in meetings and talk about it but we find that a lot of the community they don't understand the issues that we're facing in the school system and what we're looking at and our goals and what we want to have happen so we are working on ways of community sorry communicating effectively commute with the community you know when we finish a project no one knows about us that's not that's not fair to the community it's not fair to the students everybody out there we
027want you to share in in you know our joy of what we're getting done and what we're moving forward with and what we're thinking about and also you know kind of gain a partnership with the community of what what they feel is that they see in the schools that they would like to have done so it were going to be changing the whole dynamics of the committee I guess user-friendly you know more engaged so daddy joy anything else just getting all that changes everything yes thank you Thanks next we have a consent agenda an emotion that the board approved the items listed below on the consent agenda if recommended exactly okay there is no personnel changes to report on the consent agenda this evening so essentially we just happen over financials are there any questions
028all right all in favor host okay on to new business we have the budget transfer recommended motion that the board approve a budget transfer in the amount of four hundred fifty seven thousand dollars from the salary health benefits Medicaid and excess cost accounts to the workers compensation disability insurance and special education tuition amounts second mr. post did you want to speak to them certainly I left a memo and everybody's place earlier and your last meeting you approved a transfer of one hundred ninety five thousand dollars to offset the special education professional services account since then we have asked the town for a supplemental appropriation to cover part of the special education tuition and transportation overage and this transfer is to allocate funds to cover the rest of the trains of the tuition account as well
029as to other accounts I've identified pretty here the workers compensation into disability insurance so the salaries I've identified are over and above the ones that we already had in the budget and we've identified previously okay the excess cost brand is the amount we originally calculated our estimate for the the request of the town and then the Medicaid reimbursement is $50,000 that we are anticipating receiving this year that was not included in our budget so on the Medicaid reimbursement you would actually set up an income account yes offsets that yes okay and the excess cost grant aren't we already our budget is at nine hundred thousand so this would take us the 994 in terms of reimbursement Nell we the the excess cost was in two pieces it was six hundred thousand originally and any hundred
030three hundred thousand town had us ahead and they set up the contingency and then based on our calculations from from doctors Apollo's information we would get back six hundred ninety four thousand dollars and the excess cost so since we asked for the $300,000 separately from the town the ninety four thousand dollars is the excess of the 600 now and I'm a little uncomfortable making adjustments to the excess cost grand till we hear that from the selectmen I don't know I know you but it's there's a lot of unknowns on that and that was the probably most confusing that at the Board of Finance meetings so I was wondering if maybe we could just hold off on that one we called all that until so the determinations made from the town well or we're just with
031all day so all of these items are the ones we've talked about before in terms of how we would fund contribute to the funding our prior beauties so this is the only thing that's an unknown at 94 the excess cost and we're not even sure where that's gonna be a correct correct correct sounds to me like a the first selectmen in particular would want to deal with the excess cost as a separate discussion and okay yes three hundred thousand in contingency he's holding on to and he will fund that some portion of that right depending on we're going to get here Nedim it's going to be discussed next Wednesday at the Board of Finance meeting so we can delay this vote ended if needed for a next meeting how about if we table this for
032the next meetings because we should have a better feel for what's going on at that time we also will have had the Finance Committee meeting this coming Monday night where we could discuss this a little bit further as well okay it's a subcommittee so that's get everybody a little more comfortable with all the numbers and exercise two more questions is everybody okay with that you just explained for my mouth I work under on teacher salaries primarily new hires we also had as remember on the mayor did a TCS exercise over the summer we had point six world language teacher at the high school so that's part of this this number also and it but it's basically from turnover if there's no other questions we'll just uh I think that emotion um yes sorry motion to
033table the budget transfer request until the next regular board of a meeting on January 17 second all in favor aye opposed okay next under whole business we have the 2018-19 school calendar recommended motion that the board approved the 2018-2019 school calendar as recommended by the superintendent dr. John Burroughs we got a second thank you okay this um the school calendar was proposed during our last meeting and discussed you all have if in your board packet are there any discussions or questions idea of state I do have a question Joe had mentioned at the last meeting about the conferences and I know they're here in green you can see the green actually on there where's the green the greens on the key sorry but it's not like there's no actual dates noted the last video three
034I finalized it we have the dates yeah there does it it's in the legends down on the bottom but it's not actually on the apologize for the green that being in there on the calendars but this is there was there yeah I know there was a question on the efficiency of using that time and actually the elementary principals have gotten together the next day and had been working on this actually they asked mrs. diamond to come up and just talk if she come to the podium and talk about how the schedule works in the needs for the join had a chance to talk earlier today so they're in the fall when we have we have three days of conferences scheduled and that purpose of having that amount of time schedule is that all parents are
035our goal is to get all parents in our parents and guardians in for every child we usually teachers usually budget about 20 minutes per conference and that are provides even a buffer so if the parent conference goes over a little bit you know there's they're still making San con on schedule make sure they everybody get their gets their scheduled time with about 20 kids in a class on average we need to have about six hours and 40 minutes of conference time the way that our early release works we leave at 12:15 on those early release days so we have conferences from about 12:30 to 3:30 approximately on the early on the afternoon conferences and then on the to evening conferences we have teachers leave at 12:15 12:30 and then come back in the evening for
036further conferences in the evening so we need to have those three days in order to make sure we have time for all parents to have a conference over the course of the fall those ball dates that does that answer questions the reason we only two days in the spring is because the conference been we're on an as-needed basis so parents can request our teacher can request to have come in and have a conference as opposed to the goal of getting every parent in at that time to meet about their children do every does every parent come in or what person very we have we have a very high percentage of very high percentage of parents are coming yep so which days will they get out early in daytime so they'll get out on 11 -
037so I think it's I believe it's the Monday Monday I have to see look at ya attention item ma we really just [Music] those are all early so what is the mark a shin here that says evening versus daytime so those two days I think it's the first the 29th in the first of November those conferences we dismiss at 12:15 teachers and students all leave and then teachers come back in the evening to have conferences so it's a balance yes and we have we talked when I first started here number of years ago all the conference's were during the day and we just found that parents that wasn't being responsive to what parents and guardians needed in terms of times for work and that kind of thing so we have changed it to do and
038we do - evening conferences and then one during the afternoon and those evening conferences when you ask those those date those times are full that's what parents need be available so the reason the teachers are leaving at 12:15 is really a contractual time issue okay yep yeah so the time' is missed during the day instructional ii they're back and after in the evening for up for conferences we should clarify many of the teachers are commuting the profiles that don't actually leave their here oh yeah when I say leave but just not they're teaching them a lot of collaborating that goes on there are teachers that have been very flexible in terms of ago Kerry needs to come in on that afternoon instead of coming in and evening you know kind of be flexible that way
039so thank you you know I think we've discussed back and forth on a few different calendars whether we actually even wanted to click that color code for the conference in there because I think help me and you remember we were afraid that parents would look at and assume that conferences were for their particular student or school work on all of them yes so I think we have vacillated back as to what we actually want to do as far as color coding and I'm not sure if the they decided on this one because you're right there there's the green here but it's not put in there I am almost okay leaving it without a color code I actually like it better without the color code just because they may just quickly look at the calendar see
040it has a color on it and figure there's no school yeah true I mean would it be too many colors to say early dismissal kata for a color for early dismissal 580 dismissal 912 but too much Hey [Music] okay so I think we just have to decide what we want to do about that color on that weekend I can think we can we need back to the yeah okay yeah channel my inner burn yet and they'll be ready to go with the code this game a great reference excel all in favor of approving school calendar opposed okay thank you next we have the program of studies recommend emotion that the board approve the revision the VHS program of studies as recommended by the Cape subcommittee second mr. Blandon would you care to come up this
041evening thank you for the introduction and really great explanation about all the change that we have proposed here I think the biggest change you'll see really is and from my perspective is the addition of a new course for ninth grade incoming ninth graders that change the world history to a more global themes of course certainly I have invited mrs. Spencer here as well you can manage department head to speak on that specifically if there's any specific questions about that I'm also here to answer any other questions you might have about that the program from general so any questions anything shed light or whatnot you touched on the exact point I had a question about I'd like to learn more about what is this global things course and how does it line up with the standards
042absolutely we're trying to put in so I'm glad to have Liz Spencer here our new like I said our new humanities department chair will talk a little bit more about that process and what the plan is for that global themes good evening so I'm not sure are you looking at copies of the actual course description and your material changes okay we we do have the descriptions but I'll give you a summary of what the inspiration of the course earlier this year the social studies teachers in grades 5 12 met with Steve armstrong who is the social studies consultant for Connecticut and we talked to him about our program and we wanted to vertically align it and we had a lot of questions about aligning it with the new social studies frameworks which is based on
043the National c3 standards and one of the things we took away from that was the importance of making history relevant and so we talked a lot about framing all of our courses with learning about history for the purpose of understanding our present world so we're using history as a vehicle to understand the present world and one of the issues that we have with the current ninth grade course is that it focuses on ancient civilizations and there are a number of issues with that we you know we're not saying that ancient civilizations aren't important but of course like that actually limits our ability to enact many of the standards for instance using primary sources when you're talking about you know ancient places could be a challenge and that is a big part of the standards and
044so and the standards also focus on modern world history US history and citizenship so civics so and they refer us to look at sixth or seventh grade standards if we want to focus on ancient civilizations in high school but it's not a recommendation so we had a lot of discussion in which all the teachers participated in and we decided that we wanted to modernize what is offered for our ninth graders we want to emphasize many of the foundational skills that ninth graders need to access the more advanced social studies courses that we have in the high school so this will be entirely aligned with the new frameworks and it will we will identify important global themes there are other schools around the state who are doing a course like this so certainly we will look
045at different models but also tap into the inspiration of our teachers to identify the four or five or six major themes that we want to focus on that are relevant to today's world and then we'll look back at important eras of history to help students understand how those came about today so the curriculum of that is still something be thought through and developed uh with the approval tonight we will begin yes we've had we've had quite a bit of discussion and we're working with dr. Murray Alcock to to enact this work and the plan is this all ninth graders take this yes for next so what would be the progression for child as they go through the high school I'm glad you asked we have had a lot of discussion about that as well next
046year our current next year's ninth graders would take this course the 10th graders would next year continue to take the current modern world history course that we now offer but in two years we envision a course that replaces that we've had a lot of brainstorming going on we have it narrowed down to about three different choices we've looked at a course similar to the global themes that goes to the other parts of the world that the ninth grade course does not cover we've looked at the possibility of doing something that is along the lines of the AP Human Geography course our most advanced students could take it at the AP level but we would pull from those themes to have offering a similar offering for academic and honor students and we've also talked about a
047course that would be something like a foundations in democracy course so we are in the process of those conversations and we expect to make that decision later in this school year as to what that sophomore offering would be and what our ninth graders doing in English at the same time they're doing this and social studies I know they connected in any way right yeah right now they're not connected we have the department chairs and the high school have discussed having a real focus on ninth grade for next year because we're doing so much curriculum work and we're working towards mastery learning with dr. Alcock we are looking to really emphasize our work with the ninth grade for next year and we are looking for instance ninth graders read night we had a speaker come in
048last year for the ninth grade last spring whose mother was a Holocaust survivor and she she told that story and really connected with the students but students right now study World War two in sophomore year in their history classes so with this new course we might be able to have them have more interdisciplinary experiences certainly that would be something we would look to do it works pretty well in the eleventh gravy the history department felt strongly about keeping us history in 11th grade some districts put it into tenth grade that they really wanted a more mature student for that course and we also have u.s. American literature in the English course for 11th grade so that that already has some crossover and we'd like to build on that yeah I'm not a huge fan at
049this age of crossing over and social studies and I think back to the days of our humanities classes that we use that know this specific class but it really brought it brought connected the dots yeah and I would say there's yeah there's there's a large interest in both the English and the social studies teachers for bringing those experiences interest and hearing more as we go through the year on how do we connect those dots okay there is global things will be operative of academic and honours yes [Music] any other questions regarding program studies at all okay thank you it's all in favor of hi Athena's host very well that mark okay thank you very much the next role business we have spending reductions recommended action that the board continue its discussion on the seven bending
050reductions in order to mitigate additional special education costs [Music] he deals with spending reductions that were proposed and just very very close turn it off have it on the agenda now case anyone has digested discussed and had any questions regarding them because we will be bringing them forth to the Board of Finance next Wednesday I guess the question I had is there been any further discussion with the first allotment about the range that he needs us to land them we had a brief conversation but there was no concrete range provided that's nice oxymoron there's a asking for a country range but they're there you know I shared with him the things that we could you know that were under running intentionally with our prudency actions since August which we talked about last meeting at you
051know totaling about $160,000 so to provide that to mr. Dunne so he could be thinking about seeding about Fila he has that number okay what was this reaction to that number um he wished it could be more but it was you know positive response I was happy that we were yeah okay good they're very adamant that that they will not be able to put the entire appropriations well I'm given the size of the problem like that doesn't surprise me it's I just it's always that question and he was how much could you cut can they cover out of contingency and then how do we split whatever is left Yeah right in a logical way yeah has there been any further discussion about the the health say that health fund no I don't know if collect
052you have any further information on that but I certainly don't have anything and the thing is our last meeting literally I mean you know was for school days ago no no that's the problems I wish I had had some more but I haven't had any further discussion okay I just don't want the reason I'm asking is I don't want to go in there whenever we have this meeting I don't want to go in blind sure no I understood all I've had a chance to absorb how much is he really trying to get sure and what about that that's a big nut out there that health account yet that we talked about and if it's an option we ought to know if it's not an option we're meeting Wednesday next week call it yes yes so
053that's gonna be done at the border fine it's going to be done at the regular border finance being excellent so are we in session with that or we just attending their meeting exactly exactly I gave them the option of doing both depending on how much granularity they wanted to get into the second tier of our spending reductions the personnel in it they opted to do it this way and then if they have further questions on that I was very very clear that I could not go into detail at all about the second level of proposed reductions in regards to personnel and they opted to have it just at the regular meeting and then move into executive abdomens of pictures of our granularity I'm a little confused about the order of events because usually it's the
054appropriation goes to the Board of Selectmen the Board of Selectmen approve and moving on to the board of fight it has already done that and they didn't they didn't make a record did they make a recommendation they did I thought they recommended to have a meeting they recommended actually to to move it forward and so they put it in the hands exactly and so was discussed there and the recommendation was that we come back to see what regards to that yeah because the one he was talking at that last border finance meeting it sounded like they would just off they get over for discussion not pumping it with the recommendation yes okay so Colette do we have to have any more specific recommendations ready for Wednesday or not not at this time if everyone is
055okay with what was presented last time that is what I will be bringing forward on Wednesday no further discussion we'll move on to our last item in old business which is the review of the superintendent's proposed budget a recommended action that the board review the 2018-2019 proposed budget as presented by superintendent Becker gone oK we've had time over the holidays to further digest and report on the budget and really I think during this meeting we need to get into specifics because we really unless we're going to have a special meeting we have to vote on this or at our next board meeting in order to have it to the Board of Selectmen by the January 31st deadline so really I think at this time we just need either further detailed questions for the detailed suggestions
056or just a general idea as to what administration needs to come back with for the budget so we can get it moving forward yes I am I'm trying to formulate it in my head this is not going to go over well the increase is hitting huge resistance in social media and just in discussions with people I don't have a solution to it though so that's why you saw the hesitation people are going to vote no they're saying it's too high it is a high number and I just don't see as a board member what we can cut and I'm bothered by it well I think I think personally and some of this was reflected in the round table and our goes that I think most of that is a communication problem mm-hm and there is
057there's just a there's perception that is this huge number but it actually is a much more realistic number the status-quo number is what's a big thing and we can't do anything about that mm well maybe what we can do is it was in the roundtable discussion people seemed satisfied once they had the information and they understood completely would you perhaps you know for the public and so that they can view it later on if they're not watching right now we you be willing to go through that discussion again right now yes because that might help some of good suggestion that might help some of the public's perception as to why this number is so high instead of just thinking that oh you just want a 1 million yeah I do too I mean more communication
058about sure in the book the board we've discussed this and I think the board is very clear on this and some of the public at the roundtable order now clear on this and it makes a lot of sense to them and we knew you know we this is this is a large number when you look at it especially considering the history of budget approvals in the last eight to ten years Aaron here in town so when we talk about the status quo budget we talk about maintaining services exactly as they are the services the number of custodians the number of secretaries the number of teachers the number of programs I'd like to talk about programs that you know the the unfunded mandates but programs that that aren't mandates that we value in love in this
059community too two topics we talked about last year when we were deliberating as a board we looked at elementary world language not a requirement but a wonderful program that we value in this community we want to continue having but it's costly to have those teachers starting banned in fourth grade versus starting banned and fifth grade that well that takes a teacher and and so that's expensive and people need to understand there are costs of that but if we value it we put our money where our mouth is so when we talk status quo we talk about maintaining services just to maintain status quo services and I'm taking out the increase in special education that's been a separate discussion we're talking about nine hundred and twenty three thousand dollars because we have contractual collective bargaining increases
060we also have increasing with increases with contracts that we have with vendors and so forth so to maintain current services to operate our schools nine hundred twenty three thousand dollars for a two point two percent increase that's a lot for some people out there in the public and that's just to maintain in addition we've run into a major expense that was not budgeted for in special education do too many things that dr. Cipolla has explained in great detail with for finance at our budget round tables and so forth with a number of students and the tuition for our placements along with subsequent transportation that goes along that cost in this year's budget alone that's now budgeted for is 1.1 million dollars we will incur that cost next year so the status quo of nine hundred
061twenty three thousand dollars at two point two percent and then this 1.1 million dollars in special education costs moving forward next year but 1.1 million dollars is 2.9 percent all right so right there you have a significant increase you're you're at your was that five percent five point nine point five five point one percent just with those two items we then have some increasing recurring revenues through our different grants and so forth and so that helps offset some of that by two hundred thousand dollars that's only 0.5% in this year's operating budget many people have just forgotten we have a number of revenues that we use to offset this year's operating budget the first was the three hundred thousand dollars we've talked about that was possibly through the governor and his proposal in the budget
062a special ed difference in the excess cost grant three hundred thousand dollars we that is built into this year's budget not built into next year's budget that's three hundred thousand dollars and then the next few things come that are about one hundred six thousand dollars that is the fifty thousand and change that we got from the arc Kali settlement and then what was the hidden around $50,000 $50,000 yeah fifty-six thousand restitution from the Art College settlement and fifty 50,000 from the pay to participate and so we don't do that any longer we don't have pay to participate so those were student activity funds essentially there was a revenues that had come in so we took those and everybody knew about that that's been something we talked about publicly and we use those offset the current
063budget so that's four hundred six thousand dollars our one percent so that was in this year's budget at 1% or four hundred six thousand dollars is not a next year's budget so there's another one percent increase so we are now that was it it's just too I think 5.6 here brings us the 5.6 and then the new enhancements we've been talking about professional development curriculum materials support materials especially science and it really emphasized that and how many here oh yes the occupational therapists assistant which shows along with our special education costs for student needs they're the science teacher after the high school excuse me yeah the yell teacher but those are those are also offset by some staff reductions and then the consultant we're looking at a board priority of start times for the schools
064and also looking at in a wonderful district enrichment program and beginning consultant services there so when you add those enhancements in that's three hundred and six thousand dollars I think three hundred five thousand dollars which is 0.8 percent so the new requests the new requests we are asking for to make our school system better is 0.8 percent or three hundred and six thousand dollars the remainder of it is essentially while the special education cost is new this year and will be recurring extra it's essentially status quo cost that we have to incur to maintain the existing services and I know Bob Bob has worked on articulating it as our chair of our Finance Committee we talked about that we knew the 1.1 million dollars cost in this year's budget that impacts because 1.1 million dollars
065is almost three percent of our budget if magically the town was able to give us 1.1 new million dollars and add that to this current year's budget our increase for next year would be that we be asking will be three point four three point five so be a reasonable request in line with historical requests because of this cost and the way things are going we've got this six you know current actual budget versus actual costs except that are going to be expenditures versus what we're asking for next year so there's a lot there but I think it's pretty straightforward for people to understand the in talking to the folks who are watching at home the PowerPoint is online the second slide right off the bat outside of the cover slide you go right to that
066it breaks all those numbers down is very easy to understand very straightforward thank you no it was it was extremely helpful thank you dr. Borel and it was in a way that I think it should answer any questions people have because it was very clearly and I appreciate it thank you yeah I mean I think the big thing the community has to understand we have to think about is because of this situation in order to have a smaller percent increase it would be we would have to reduce current program reduce current staff we'd have to majorly cut what we're currently offering it would be devastating if we would make up this whole thing and keep it in line with the increases we've had over the last couple of years any other discussion with a budget
067I think that's what's wrong big looks like we progress band but when you compare to actual expenses for this year it's really you make a condo the problem we have is and there's some contingency on the town side that can be used to cover that but the tax rate for this year it's based on the budgets right so it's a real increase right I mean what we'll end up doing I can see what's gonna happen is we're gonna end up squeezing things out of this year's budget in other line items we don't know exactly where yet they'll squeeze some things out and some of those most of those will have to be still funded for next year because it's a short-term solution to the current year problem so that the real increase it I mean
068a contingency aside there's a real increase in spending which is a real tax rate increase for our for our population so you can't just dismiss that homeowners and business owners are gonna readily say yeah go ahead spend the money right there they're looking to us to say okay so you've got a million dollar problem that's shown up right where can we find opportunities maybe I'm going to say sacrilegious things maybe we have to reinstitute pay for blight I'd hate to do that I mean I hard to get rid of that but you know what I'm gonna put it on the table if that's something we need to do to get a couple hundred K right to was about a hundred and fifty 60 photos closer to 150 origin yeah in any case yeah they're gonna
069look to us as a board to say how would we exercise this you know what are the sacred cows we put on the table and discussed before we bring it forward right and we haven't done that yet right we've had we've all kind of absorbed this between us guys I think we need to talk about what are not we might all say no no no no no but we have to at least have discussed them and and talked about what is the implication of taking actions that would contain a touch dangerous and that's just me saying do our job it's not me advocating to do any of them yeah rich but I don't know what they are so I'm I'm thinking our next meeting that we would be wise to say what would be the
070sacred good like we did in the summer right what would be a half a percent what would be a 1% would be one and a half percent and how bad is it how bad is it right that's the question that you have so that we can understand what we're voting on right and then we vote right and we all might say no I'm not going to do that no I'm not gonna we kind of went there to summon right everybody said we don't want to do that not in that we took the easy low-hanging fruit but we didn't go down in to losing teachers in the classroom right but I think we have some that would be what I would say to all of us as we ought to ask you to come back and
071say what are the what's a half a percent what's a 1% type of spending reduction of what does that mean what are the implications of that yeah that's me I think we need to exercise that but I also think we need to look at what is the best for our schools for students for our district because that is really what we're bringing forward to the town I agree I I'm not advocating to our job do you have to have it or what's the right thing for our students exactly right there's no doubt we do have to have the responsibility to look at and say is this the most you know fiscally responsible one but ultimately we have to Kait for what is best for our students I would also say we ought to bring in
072a couple of the items which we ought to decide what they are where there was some concern on our part that maybe we didn't do enough right do we need another yellow teacher do we need another we need a contingency for kindergarten right do we need to do we need to do anything around Paris I mean so there's some upside risks and there's some downside risks and then in balance we can say what are we recommending as a as a committee advocating for our students so and I know there have been discussed areas a concern prior to this for things that were not in the budget and that's what you're alluding to right now correct about yeah I mean we talked about it at the last meeting there were some things that some of us
073around the table say all the way image is to PLL's enough I was having the same reaction giving a hundred kids out there right and so we also look at I'm not advocating adding any more than I'm advocating removing it to understand the implications of yeah and we as administrative team what we would need direction from the board what are some item or areas we need to look as well considering timing as you as you articulated Colette and you know where we're going to put our energy and time in the coming week you know we need a framework we need ideas we need particular programs are interested in having a look if they will reduce what that what does that mean we need that direction so we can we can come back you know with
074a couple of sheets of paper or a memo or a PowerPoint and walk through some areas to give people some ideas of the implications not only the cost savings but then and obviously the implications yeah which is exactly what we did in the summer you know we get what does this mean to students got this what does it mean that's what we have to do and again I will stress this as we did before these are not efficiencies that would be finding this would be a cost-benefit analysis that in order to get or keep that they were going to actually be losing programming or you know it will not come without a cost yeah I mean you know there's the impact you might say John take a look at increasing class size one student beyond
075the range K through eight what is what kind of reduction can we get out of that I don't think anybody wants to do that that may be an exercise you want us so if you have ideas we're gonna need those because we need to you know prepare for for next next meeting so Andy issue share with us we're happy to take that direction anyone have any ideas right now I would I would first thing on my list would be administrative staff in the offices in the schools okay right I mean do we have too many is it the red we reduce a administrative position in some of the schools they don't that's almost rate of like administrators or administrative like Clarkson secretaries without with clerks no secretaries but I would then I wouldn't write it
076to that sure might if you think that there's an opportunity given our class sizes of reducing to have fewer administrator or we ought to think about that so I would go after administration would be the first thing I don't look at that would be me because it doesn't snot custume they sure it's it's more about the operations of the school we're already reducing one custodian in the proposal I don't know that we want to go any further in Saudia larrya I wouldn't go after that area this is a tough one this is tough okay because of anything we have over this past couple of years exercise I think all the efficiencies have put out of it well we are actually under the range under the midpoint of the range for class sizes in almost every
077grade what if we ran at the top end of the range and here again I have a very visceral reaction to that Bob because I really think that we're going in the wrong direction here I mean we are trying to do you know we are trying to achieve excellence and I know we have this 6.4% that we're doing it with I say we if we do that we we are going down a path that's going to take years to self correct okay come up with your ideas then no because I'm serious I mean with 6.4% it's not going to sell in Peoria no it's not so we have to find a way to have exercise ourselves to say that we have absolute strength and conviction that would look at every option and discarded it so
078you're saying just take a look at it we need to look at it in order to be able to say that's something we as a warm want to do or right we may all say I discard it but if you don't want to look at it I'm okay but we have a hard sell here let's let's be real and and the bottom line is it's up to the voters we we can put whatever we we are recommending in the budget and we know that we're doing the best things for the students and the teachers and that's what we're here for but again our our budget that we prevent is just recommended to the taxpayers and it's really up to them to vote well I won't get past the Board of Selectmen on the horn finance
079no it won't and that's why I said I'm bothered by the number but I don't have a solution but I would be amiss if I did not say six point four is not going to go guys know that Buster's her are appropriately we get further uh get bus routes yeah a little further on try again in Pakistan state law you do have to provide opportunity for transportations whether they take advantage of it or not doesn't matter all right people I know that doesn't mean we possibly can't find one or two less buses perhaps you know across all four schools for a you tell you in my former district but I don't want to say that out loud cuz I'm off here let's save mr. closely and dig it out and might not be able to
080almost say it again while he's looking here's of the other area I would ask you is there any what what we've heard from dr. Cipolla is that we have an increase right now with a special that cost us to stay with us next year but it will then start to have a slow and steady decline so the next question I would ask is there any bubble spending that I think that we can push off to not do at the same time repeat that would be another area I would ask you to think about okay that projects right things that says look I'm I want to do this but maybe I could do it a year later okay I'd like to do post pilot that's peaking host ponen to offset especially it's a post home so
081that when you come down you you felt that's when you do that okay so that would be an area general area I don't know how to articulate how more than that that would be an area I would think about sadly that sometimes that gets into areas of curriculum right like that which I know what we already come on last year put that off last year exactly plus the bus is a bit less than $63,000 63,000 for one bus run for a year so one bus a couple one or two bus runs this substantial people or they're either go an offsetting while setting postponement versus the increase in trade especially right now that's a little peek at the say about something we're looking at joy did you so could you break down so our curriculum specialists
082or department chairs so we have curriculum specialist cake for her reading in a math as well separate cook when specialist k4 man correct so we have what do we have the middle school level we have a curriculum specialist at the middle school as well correct those three total teacher level curriculum specialists so that covers so middle school five through eight that covers all content areas we actually reorganized it last year but I love that groovy so we have two math teachers one that's five six and one at seven eight that have a stipend to do math coaching so they teach and they coach so that be looked at at the elementary level I know a lot of districts do that instead of having a full-time ela curriculum specialist kata for can it be a teacher
083that's contracted out to do we're happy [Music] Judy's at home special I'll adjust in in all transparency say that the needs are so great that I don't think that we're ready for that at this point in time I think it would really set us back both ears and where we need to be considering yes practices that doesn't mean incorrectly as part of our comebacks for you that you know we don't take a look at Yelp at the administration pad or someone to do both instruction right so that's a heavy job to want to do la and math across the floor yeah I think and then we can look but I just personally think that it was really negatively impact the work they were doing what we did do the change that we did make was
084to because the cost of PD and we need to develop expertise instead of having one person via a jack-of-all-trades we and have one curriculum specialist at center and one at huckleberry doing everything we and with our strategic coherence plan with vertical alignment we went to switching up and having them focus across the great bands in the disciplines we did that this year and it seems to be working we've we've actually learned a lot of things by having one person people sort being in both schools oh we can look at it it's an area we will look at it was just another thing for you to know is that those two positions are also doing a lot of the on-the-ground work with the curriculum writing and with the teachers that are being trained and that we
085talked about just you know what reigniting a fire for some of our veteran teachers in this curriculum work and so forth so you know it's uh yeah I hate to lose yeah we don't want to lose any really what's nice is we talked about is faculty starting to really see the big picture you know it takes time to change in to build that and to see that vision now feeling it and so boy you don't want definitely an area we need to look [Music] maybe we should just look at what are the negative consequences of not having another science teacher we decided to hold that off for a year look let us know what kids what time and I can't and just so you know for the public for the board when we're budgeting including
086benefits and salary we average cost the teacher knowledge for our figuring just so you know just an estimate we use and it's also for what we need to say you're tired it's not a budget as well use that base over I'm wondering I personally heard that from some parents that they do before we study [Music] be supportive of shifting star times before we do a study you know we could do studying by that we should ship sorry times [Music] yeah manage that so maybe maybe that's an idea to do email study or sub cutting a survey something to see first I mean I thought tonight about your on table we'd get the community coming so disappointed that people didn't come but honestly we've gotten bless me so many maybe that's an area working better before
087we [Music] and this that was off while you're peeking on social edge you know pilots on the stop of what you're already dealing with you see that you know that Ted off Santa that was you that was fast as wide as it was at end of it he was no more but Wow talk about the impacts pushing back start time is equivalent to decreasing two to three students per class as far as achievement differentially gets the it's amazing yeah they said for a team it's the hard times at like 7:00 to set up 30 range it's the equivalent adults getting off at 4:00 in the morning I think she said think about think about what we're just given the nature of the physiology of a teenager and think about all of the form of mourning
088and how this or what we feel as [Music] I understand it's all about I understand you know given the budget priorities would that be popular for us [Music] you've got any other responsibilities Oh I mean the one thing we can do and I shudder frankly to actually see any how loud because what it turns into is this is what the board is doing this is what super rather than say anything specific frankly I think you know for this exercise we need to look at mandates versus valued programs and I'm going to use this as an example and it's not anything we're planning to do think of the cost and I'm not suggesting we do this at all not suggesting we do this at all but when we were going through the ECS exercise we were
089very unclear what the funding was going to be for the state some of my colleagues had put letters out to their communities and it was it helped rally the troops and parents came out and it was it was a tactic for that frankly I didn't want to go down that road of tactics but talking about full-day kindergarten versus half a yard think of the cost and implications that do that at wall we set ourselves backwards with all of those advantages of things we have but I mean it's not a mandate that we have all the annular so I mean that's one example of mandate versus something that we want happy versus wanted versus is support to do value should again that's not a proposal that's not something we're doing that's not something I'm suggesting but
090just for the exercise in this conversation many versus again we do oh gosh there's a lot of things I just think about what you mentioned in the last meeting the fact that they took physical education we have two credits of physical education at the high school the mayonnaise one credit of his qualification again we value that so what does the total field along well it's the board want to recommend you know wanna be D in these very difficult issues that's why I'm thinking of it it's a big meeting trunk looking and you know our programs in you you know our specialists classes at the elementary school I mentioned it before about it again nothing I'm suggesting but we look at the volume the amount of world language the elementary school the amount of music we're
091seeing in the amount of our examine that see last of that series of the money it's good quality experience for the kids at all we reduce it but again for this exercise we have to be transparent talk about you know we really look at everything comfortable landing in the end I think it's an important that we board are comfortable we may just start all the ideas but not exercised it would be a problem well we think we need to just clearly delineate the the exact costs because my fear is that we're just creating lists that someone is of course and did imagine or a shopping list if you will so we really do have to be clear this is an exercise we're doing to see what we can do to make sure that everything is
092is this tight as we can make it sure however all this does come with a cost I'm Jen so you know we're perfectly willing to go back and work on a number of these things we written down what you talked about night you certainly anybody has suggestions happened to me an email on area look at have you happy to do that over the next couple weeks and come back with a moral a memo that clearly says these are here is that aren't necessarily have to so they're highly value programs and it was back if we didn't fund them but here's the cost we can put that together for the next couple of days so please think on us think that's now so that they have time to put something together at the seventeenth we can
093take a look and just go through our just go on see what it's like compared to to what we have in front of us in addition to I'm going to converse side as I mentioned in addition to things that that we would like to see in there that were in there does anyone have any suggestions as to what they want to put it for there we are walk it sound like we hold an opportunity yeah teacher teacher would be the one I from just your presentation a teacher said a word for financial reasons before walking too slowly we have to really feel I did see the state and requested a budget Miami transfer in our grant and so we did hire a part-time Hara to support Kevin in the work that is being them of
094students or sus learning English and we are interviewing people to replace the diesel teacher who loved the desert and it's important to rear and we talked about as you mentioned too that the PD had teachers get and the strategies that are taught are good for all students so they're getting that also in a general ed classroom yes that's that's important I mean the the state puts out a lot of documents and some more valuable than others and the document that has the standards for English language learner is excellent and it has strategies and supports for English learners at different levels from one to five and if you go to the three it's the sweet spot anything that's for a level three English Learner is good for the English speaker so joy is absolutely correct when
095we support teachers to support English learners we're supporting them to support everybody and I know it was a lot of question over the last couple of meetings in regards to community feel comfortable at this point based on video data that doctor really provided in regards to the kid reducing kid in there are sessions next year where does that also something we want I will take a look at I would have the very least like one Halloween contingency for kindergarten I think there's a little more wiggle room the first grade but I would be in favor of keeping it over the same but at the very least the does anyone have a sense similar to the question Bob that you asked me a sense of you know where mr. Dunn might be and where that we're
096kind of money they might be able to help us out with with this special abilities does anybody have a sense with all of this additional cost that we're asking for this year and in a large request going forward for 1819 do we have any sense that the finest would be willing once again to hold a value thousand dollars in contingency as they did for this year in case we need that additional can you guarantee sure yeah I know it's a long way off for them it's a big trade-off between what's happening in the cash base sure right the tax base is rolling right they won't move if a tax base isn't growing they're going to be under the gun because the governor the state government states declare that are lowering it next year the amount
097of the funding we're getting so we know that there's normal inflationary increases on calcite similar to what we have on the school side and I don't I don't see where we are 6 plus percent spending increase which is more like three with a contingency something like that but even with that I don't know how the car house contingency last say I'm a big tax rate increase they find that how in the third week of January right so they will know a lot more when the tax assessor finishes the grandmas or October ran list from the slab October they've done it that one for a whole certification a review process and they don't release that to the border finest unit of the first selectmen until they've gotten their certification counted that usually lasts half a day
098in work so well know how that's looking when we get to early february sharing last year they helped their yeah to be priceless because of the rebound right so that's why I'm gonna pull the room with roses ahead of em I think it's really important you know my recommendation is my recognition you know I stand by that but he's really important too we can't have contingencies on the Board of Education the town would have a hold us so he's important to root out of what occurs to request that one-time ops whatever you know going through that a little bit I was with a report that she was sentient and going back to the broom report and seen what the differences were and it's an amazing that they were off by 17 for the kindergarten class
099but only 8 for the first grade class trying to figure out where that was and what made a difference and it led me to something that I had thought about before because this year's the first year that we initiated full-time can turn all five days because before that we were always dismissed early in on Mondays and I'm wondering if we might have gotten an increase there because of working parents who finally had a consistent schedule look senator if we could even against that granular because I would help dr. Salem if she's aware of you know you said that specifically to her I don't know dr. sounded and any parents when they register their kindergartners report to you as you can recall humanity that they were registering their child for kindergarten with us at senator school
100because our Monday was now a fold in his school this year for the kid another child as opposed to the early release it had been [Music] you know but no one out came out right and said I now I wasn't going to register but now I am okay thank you anecdotally sitting Joes and walnut in kindergarten decline somewhere some connections into that school and they they're not sure why that happened to you but I would it be also positive they were connected yes yeah ok so I think we have do you have some cost of those non-mandated high-value areas you know in other perhaps TV program Terry's they don't necessarily hideout you in the fact that the public always articulates how wonderful they are but we'll bring that back evokes and yeah I will repeat
101this is an exercise for us to understand the depth of our budget and you may bring a list of items that we may all say no no no right about that support Frosty's chairs oh yeah and I think that's gonna be our challenge when we get together as we go through that to form an opinion that's acceptable or that not so if you just help the community understand what are the risks and rewards of completely that's good to have a couple of applauses this doesn't care to hear absolutely okay well I think we have our waitress due two weeks any other but on it going forward okay so then that brings us to company events on Friday January 12 is PLC day early dismissal and Monday January 13th no school for our learning today okay
102so that's it without objection these urns thank you everyone good evening stay dry tomorrow happy snow day [Music]