001Mr. Here, Mr. Stand United States of America to the Republic for it stands nation right around. All right. Any members of the audience? See none. Uh we have the community relations use of school facilities. That's me. So Emily is here to kind of walk us through uh our community relations uh regulation. Um it hasn't been updated since uh 2013. Uh regulations. So I remember that probably passed to 2013. Yes. Yeah. So we actually the we're not looking to amend the policy 1330 that was revised in 2013. There was an adjustment last made to the regulation in 2019 but over the past 12 years we have not raised prices for our building use fees. and we are looking to increase those to kind of break even. We're not looking to necessarily make money on our rentals,
002but at this point we're losing money, especially when we think about custodial costs and um we're not really competitive with our peers if we're thinking about the amount that we're charging to use our space and there's a lot of demand for some of our bigger spaces, our gyms at our high school. And the current schedule of rental charges about is for anywhere from $6 to $60 an hour depending on what space it is in this little memo that you have. If you look at appendix A, that's all of our current pricing. Now, the one thing that you have to consider there is that's for five hour pricing. So on the side like the hourly rate um so that you can see compared to other districts which I'll talk about in a minute. But the rental
003space is not inclusive of the wages. We charge separately for wages and we're currently charging $50 an hour Monday through Saturday and $65 an hour on holidays and Sundays for custodial supervision of events. One thing you should know about the building use fees is we have all these different groups. We charge them different amounts. Our most common users are our group one and two. Those are like direct services for our kids. So think about chaser junior football, chaser basketball. Um, but we always charge those groups for the custodial wages. We don't always charge groups one and two for the building use. So, we're looking to update the uh wages and the building use fees. There is some comparable data if you're interested in that. There's a comparison here of other districts. You have appendix B.
004In that comparison of 10 districts, five of them are in B and Cher has the lowest average cost for rental at $42.95 an hour compared to the group five average of $181 an hour. Yeah. So it's it's a lot lower. Um there's is that apples to apples though? I don't know that anything is really apples to apples when you're looking at building usage like um I would say but is it all to I mean might they have the custodial built into there? No, not really. I would say the one thing that I had to level set was Some of them have daily rates and so I assume five hours. Like ours is a daily rate of five hours. So if that was the case, I just divided by five hours. But most of these are
005all put into hourly amounts. So you'll see it's it's pretty across the board. Um and that's why I wanted to provide these the comparison of local districts, but also DUR B. So you can see and also see the number of schools that they're operating. But there's quite a differential. But the unifying thing is Cheshure is charging lease when we look at all of these different schools. Uh and there's also if you want to see like the cheshure town of Cheshure rental fees that's appendix C. Uh just there there's outdoor spaces and we currently don't charge anything for outdoor spaces. So when we think about the turf the stadium um especially as we think about like turf replacement we're not charging anything for that space right now any of our fields. So we haven't been charging
006anybody for the 12 years the field's been down. Not that I'm aware of. Not yeah we because everybody who's using it is our local people. So this was a function this is a byproduct of you know so like cheshure youth football cheshure junior football we don't charge those groups. This is a byproduct of when the council originally said, "Yeah, no, we're not funding it." And then the community just went out and fundraised all the money. So, Chester Junior Footballed a lot of money for the installation of that turf. So, it's kind of been that sort of quid proquo since that installation. We haven't been charging our local folks to use it. Now, You know, there's been conversation about ultimately that's going to have to be replaced and we've been collecting search charge on tickets for
007the entirety of the existence of the field. It's not enough to, you know, replace the field. It's enough to put a nice dent into it, but um not replace it. And so, you know, I think the expectation is that if it were going to be funded through the community again, they would be putting up money to support that effort. Again, if this arrangement were to continue, so that's why it wasn't like, you know, wasn't like it was an oversight. It was not a conscientious decision, you know, and our our fields are, you know, are all season usage anyways. They're not rentable often because our sports teams are using them more so. I mean, the gyms are also used quite a bit, but um and we don't have if we wanted if we were charging people,
008we don't have anything listed in our regulation right now for the rental fees. So, we want to at least include that, but I don't we haven't been charging for that usage. Um so with that information said the recommendation is that we update the costs. Uh that includes post modernization. So we don't want it to just last for next year but kind of case us into when we have burn them up and do more in life. And that means that we need to kind of restructure how we're charging spaces and I'll explain that in a minute. Uh and then my recommendation is to match some of our policy with our current practice. So, superintendent just mentioned like those group one and twos, chester junior football, lacrosse, etc. are not getting charged. They're group two even though
009um we do have a rental listed for group two. Uh but I'm saying we can get rid of some of that grouping where we're actually just not really charging people. So, the recommendation is on page one appendix D. So, that's your page. It's kind of small, so I'm sorry about that. But the biggest changes are one, the hourly rates are listed instead of this 5h hour minimum. So you can just see the hourly rates and moving from a 5h hour minimum to a three-hour minimum, which allows people to utilize the space, but doesn't mean that they have to do like an all day rental and you can just see the hourly breakdown. The other big change is switching. Um, group two had rental fees listed and I'm saying don't charge those group twos which again
010cher junior football lacrosse the sports that are offering direct services to our students. And the other thing you'll notice is how the the rooms are grouped. So it's K8 schools, the high school gymnasiums and then the exterior. I mentioned we don't have exterior rates listed right now and moving towards a gymnasium model because Barnham online and New Norton online. The gymnasium isn't really it's not that the elementary schools or the high schools necessarily have a a better or worse gym. It's really which ones have air conditioning or bleachers. And that's the function of the gym, not the location. And so switching that to honor, you can see there's type one, type two, and type three with different rental rates for our gymnasiums. And so those are some of the changes that you'll see here. also
011listing the hourly fees and updating those. The custodian going from $50 an hour to $55 an hour uh on the day and then evenings switching it from 65 to 75 and then charging a Sunday and holiday rate of $100 an hour. And then we also didn't have food service workers listed. That actually goes through our nutrition department rentals of our kitchen space. And we just want to list how much we're charging for food service. worker, which is the same amount as a custodian. A food service worker is required when our kitchen is being used, but we actually are not going to charge for the kitchen space, just the kitchen worker in general. That is serve safe certified, making sure that people are using the kitchen appropriately with all equipment. So, those are some of the
012larger changes to the actual fees. I'm seeing if I missed anything before I stop for some questions. um rental categories, duration, and then the one other thing is you'll see the groups listed on the right hand side. Group one, group two, group three, group four. So you can just see which fall in which groups. Um the only thing changes for group one, which we are not planning on charging anyone, is I which select activities at the discretion of superintendent of schools. Just adding that to group one would be the is the same. I'm sorry. Add what to group one? Group one. The last last one. I select activities at the discretion of the superintendent of schools. If there's an event that we don't want to charge for. Oh, that's an addition. Yes, that's one addition.
013And then the rest of them remain the same. So, I just talked a whole bunch. The questions about the fees. So my question go go go right ahead. My question is um what was the you might not know this what was the the original five hour minimum I'm not sure I know threeh hour is predicated on the union contract excuse me I'm sorry the custodians um in their contract if they're working overtime they have a threehour minimum so that's where ties in the three hour reduction So I'm just wondering if any analysis was done to show would people use less time do you think was a threehour minimum? They use three hours. We're actually we have a 5 hour minimum but we honestly charge people use a three hour and we charge for three hours.
014Yes. Yeah. We don't adhere to five hour. Yes. Just kind of making our charging people for two hours that are not it. not pay. I mean the what the goodwill versus 60 bucks on the very few times it happens throughout the year. It's not so it's not going to be a big difference. Yeah. And and making the policy match that like we don't charge for group two. So we don't need to list rental fees for them. We're charging the custodial fees and the kitchen work fees regardless of group. But most of our rentals are group one and group two. So, this is not a money maker for the board of education. Um, last school year we made the tone. Uh, made $6,300 in the fiscal year 2024. So, that was on the building used fees
015and there was $26,000 in custodial reimbursements. So, that's the majority of what the the revenue is coming from, but it's not really because you're just getting reimbursements to the custodians. What's what's reimbursements though? Like reimbursing um our rate that we're paying the custodians. Yes. So that they're just basically paying us and we pay the custodians. We have to pay it through payroll. So they're paying us the three-hour rate then we pay the custodians out. Yeah. So like this um the vast majority of use that occurs in our facilities is through local community organizations that do service for kids. Um and so you know we all make a lot of money off those people. We're not trying to make a lot of money off those people. Um we cover our costs in essence but that's about
016it. revenue. So, this is all part of our operating budget. Yes. Yep. There's $10,000 budgeted in revenue for rentals, telephone, other planet, which is includes this. Um, and what I will say is $6,300. It was less than 10 rentals over the entire course of the fiscal year. So, it's not a lot. We hosted a wedding once in It was an absolute circus over the course of two days back then, but since then we don't get a lot of wedding requests now. We could really make some money off of interesting choice. Move over available. have good seating. Yeah. Yeah. Good view. So, Jeff, what was your thought on adding the select activities just to give flexibility? I I I sit trying to think of an example of where I would have employed something like that. The
017Red Cross. The Red Cross was something that, you know, we don't we charge them for custodial use in the summer, but that's it. Like, we don't charge them when they do a blood drive at CHS in the middle of school day. We already have people there and they donate a significant amount of money back to scholarships for Chester High School kids. We're not charging them for that. Um, you know, If they were running a blood drive in the summer, yeah, we charge a custodial rate, but we don't charge a building use for that. You know, I can't really think of like the political stuff like I know both the Dems and the Republicans run stuff out of our buildings. They charge we charge pretty nominal rate for that. Yeah. Yeah. So like uh the most
018recent one I can remember is uh Congresswoman Hayes wanted to run um an area town hall and she charged the building use fee and the custodial rate. But I can't even really think of somebody that would fall under this eye that because this is pretty all-encompassing this list. But just gives flexibility for us to be able, you know, if uh John Gisham tomorrow said, "Hey, I want to hold the book talk at Cheshure High. We'll let your students come for free." And I would say, "Oh, yeah, sure. Let's do that." out and it would be I wouldn't charge him for doing that or something, you know, but he hasn't called recently so or whatever. Well, actually I have one um you remember the art symposium that I went to? Yes. And that was one of
019their main complaints was Yeah. You space usage specifically if they could use the schools and I and I wasn't sure what group they would have fallen. So if that's you know but there are ways you know so if they were if they affiliated themselves with our park and wreck then they're group one and you don't have to worry about anything you know it's like there are ways where we try and work things out and we really kind of evaluate what is the benefit to our students first the community broader community second and how can makes work something work out. You know, we we're not looking to eat custodial costs um unless there's some sort of substantial benefit to our students and community, but I mean custodial costs are not, you know, too great a night
020or anything absorbing it. You know, we're this is really about facilitating a service, but trying to do it in a way that's consistent with past practice withh a way supports the multitude of community organizations that really rely on our facilities for meetings and stuff like that. And I think the updates we've made really do that. They're just more contemporary. So, and you brought up parks and wreck. So, do we still have an agreement with parks and I remember we spent a lot of time that was preco about I think it was basketball or something. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Um, has that has that sort of issue been resolved or is that an ongoing thing or because remember we we're there was a it was a space issue. Well, a space issue but also a fee issue.
021Parks and Rec was charging a fee for somebody and we were charging a fee for somebody and we couldn't quite agree on how the money was supposed to be shared or something like that. Has that been resolved or has this resolved that? I think it's been resolved for the most part. The biggest issue we face in our community is and it was actually it was a story that ran in a couple of different media outlets. I want to say it was last spring or two you might remember two springs ago where it was just facilities like the demand for facilities like fields was a big one. Um we worked closely with the park and wreck to update the field outside of doodle. We've transformed a couple fields at Chapman and Island to be access. Yeah.
022The diamonds out there to be accessible for little ones. Um, you know, the basketball courts is still a big deal because, you know, we don't have a big community event center. So, we run a lot of this out of the high school. you know, at the same time, we're trying to run, you know, varsity, JB, and freshman boys and girls basketball and other sports out of there, wrestling, fencing. And so, I think as a community, we're really looking forward to the opening of Barnum and Norton to be able to get a little bit more opportunity for our kids in the community to engage our our facilities, but especially with our growing youth population. But this is just designed to be updated really you know from a decade roughly uh structure to something that's more contemporary
023reflects the union contracts reflects our past use history um and just there aren't conflicts between what we're saying and what we're doing that exists today anticipates the use. Yes. Yes. So those are the building use fees. The other thing that you have in your packet is uh the actual regulation itself. So you'll have one that has all the suggested track changes. So if you wanted to see and then there's a clean version after that has the updated regulation. And I would say that the the purpose of updating the regulation is not necessarily to change uh practice but just to provide more clarity to people that are renting our spaces in terms of what they need to provide to rent. Um it also matches some of the language we use now like I believe there was
024something Vin's role was it was a previous role that he had um the director of management services. Yes, that's right. changing that to the chief operating officer. Uh just making some language more consistent. Uh being clear about the insurance needed some of the supervision with police and fire and custodial services. So it's really just meant to provide more clarity, but it doesn't really change the conditions under which our renters are currently operating. Um and then and this was created by looking at some other districts that had more refined regulations that we did and putting that all together in something that matched our practice but also allowed us to create transparency with people that want to use our space. So the fees are part of the regulation and not part of the policy. Correct? Yes. There
025would be the policy determine the groups we actually the regulation talks about the groups as well. The polic It talks about the use of school facilities, types of activities which will not be permitted and that's it. It's a one page thing. The Boy Scouts got added into this in 2019. bigger. Yeah, this was remember this was statuto back in 2019. Yeah, those groups were specifically called out. That matches policy that those specific organizations weird out. I was looking at this in the number one activities advocating for the overthrow of the United States. a lot of them have just changed it to activities that um do not conform the judge public schools. I don't know if when we look at that that's um can I ask about six through nine that are just taken out or
026they feel like we've included them in in the other areas? Yes. Yes. I'm looking at so agent board of education shall determine the conditions applicants must meet before permission to use the building. So that clarification is provided in some of the updated sections versus saying like deferring to the chief operating officer. um conditions controlled by the board of education shall include. So number seven is included in the updates including like the rental administration building use application and some of the supervision and number five and building use fees shall be paid directly. Um that's number eight, number nine and the threeh hour minimum. Some of this is just outlined in the use schedule on the back. So, it's just included here. So, on the on the front side, it looks like three and four are complete
027additions. So, what was three and four before? Yeah. So, we required people to have insurance before. And so, that's just naming it in the policy itself. So, every time that someone was renting, we were saying we need your certificate of insurance or proof of insurance. And so, just matching the practice that we have and there were questions that would happen during bill is like well what what exactly do I need or what what does this apply to and so just naming that as this is something we do and this is something we're going to ask for so they've been reed for those additions three re numbered from from Like there's no black in three and four. Yes. Right. So what I'm saying is that matches our practice. It was not listed in the regulation. So
028there wasn't a three and four. Correct. Correct. But we were doing three and four. Yes. Yeah. But that's partially what's correct. Right. I think I've got it down. Now, with these, is this something that we have to have three readings on or do we just adopt? This [Music] is really a conversation, you know. You're just telling us about Yeah. Just like your blessing, you know? As long you guys may you have good questions already. As long as you're not like, "Oh, this is crazy and here's why." I mean, I think it all makes sense. And with that sort of ease, there's nothing to stop us from day two of Barnum being open. we get this run on people who want to use it that we didn't foresee coming from you know god forbid southern say
029our arrival is not nothing personal but um you know we can jack up the cost to say well we didn't anticipate this sort of demand you know you see there's pretty significant delta between our charges and things you know we had the flexibility so I appreciate put a lot of time into this to bring it up to there's so much building up to speed. Yeah, we have a ton of building use and most of it's like locals like I said beyond 95% is all our people. No, this is great work. So, it makes it clearer for them and tighter in terms of the costs and insurance and what's necessary. just needed to be updated. So, any questions? Okay, let's go. Thank you, Emily. Um, so policies for a second reading. First one is electronic devices.
030Um, that you know we we got feedback from the community that was kind of the same as the feedback the first time around. To be honest with you, some people liked it, some people didn't, you know. Um, the only thing that we decided that we wanted to add and I want to show you a quick video. This is kind of like why we're being sensitive. The world is evolving so much. Uh, this is an Instagram video. This used to These are about AI glasses. Will detect when somebody's face is in frame. This photo is used to analyze them and after a few seconds their personal information pops up on the Cambridge Community Foundation. Oh, hi. No, wait. Are you a se? Oh, okay. I think I I think I met you through like the Cambridge
031Community Foundation, right? Yeah. Yeah. It's great to meet you. I'm Kane. No idea who she is. We haven't even person like minority stuff for like Muslims in India at all or something. Really? Are you? Yes. Oh, I've read your work before. So, here's how it works. We stream the video from the glasses straight to Instagram and have a computer program monitor the stream. We use AI to detect when we're looking at someone's face. Then, we scour the internet to find more pictures of that person. Finally, we use data sources like online articles and voter registration databases to figure out their name, phone number, home address, and relative names. And it's all fed back to an app we wrote on our phone. Is your address for Valley Atlanta, Georgia is Oh my god. Yes. Also attended
032Yale's Young Global Scholar Summit. Really? Yeah. These are me in like middle school. Oh my god. What about John and Susan? Are they your parents? I mean, I'm not just sharing that to alarm you. Although I think find it alarming. They didn't find it. Oh, I think they were kind of they wrote that in an afternoon on code on their phone in an afternoon. So, our I think we're being becoming much more aware. We had our first pair of glasses about three weeks ago uh that we had to ask a young man to take off during class. um we're becoming much more aware and this again this is that um two-edged sword that you know I think we talked about last time in a world where technology is an essential part of our kids' lives
033and our lives and um there's a lot of power to be harnessed there. There are certainly a lot of abuses as we just saw available. I'm not as concerned about finding out details about other kids wearing glasses in the schools. As much as I am, the ability to easily look at a document, take pictures of it, you know, send that to my friend in the next period on the exam or um you know, just find all the information by looking at it with your AIA glasses. So I did add a component here that says uh includes but not limited to mobile phones, smartphones, AI powered glasses, tablets, PCs, laptops, cameras. Now the teacher still has the capacity to I think we you know have a responsibility to teach our our kids how to use this
034stuff uh for the value that it has too. And so there here comes the conundrum. You know, we're not just saying ban it entirely, but you know, we also shouldn't be wearing our AI glasses like into the bathroom the same way we shouldn't be taking our phone out the bathroom because you can take video on these things and you know, so it is really tricky. Um, and so we are adding the AI powered glasses to the prohibition. um in our schools again unless directed by the teacher at the high school level. So what would the difference be between that and iPhone 16 that has the AI built into that or Right. It's it's just a lot harder. It's a lot harder to take. You can't have your phone out either. Right. Right. And so we're
035saying we're treating the glasses like the phone. You can't have it out unless your teacher directs you. It's okay. So, this policy is saying it's okay to wear those glasses in the hallways or in a social situation, just not in the classroom. Um, at this point, unless we've changed Well, I don't I don't know that they make them in a prescription. I'm sure they will. We do if they haven't already. You know, I don't know if they're available in a prescription form. And I think this is part of the challenge that we're facing. The world is evolving. so quickly that you know until a few days ago uh you see the power that it has. I mean I've seen the power that AI has when we did a a Marleene and Marine really worked with
036uh folks from at Advance Matt Mervvis to come in and do a great presentation for our faculty on AI and it is so both insanely powerful. Um the I mean I've been using it much more over the last several weeks to do a variety of things. Um and part of it is the I guess the challenge we're facing is for me I am looking at it through a lens of a certain level of accomplishment a certain level of confidence like I have the confidence and I'm using this to check things or push my thinking where if you don't have the confidence and you ask this to solve a math problem and you're not stopping to think like that number doesn't isn't right or whatever um kids aren't learning it that's a problem that's why I
037was saying you know K through eight no phones we want social interaction uh to to rule the day there in the second at the high school level push All right, maybe there's a place to teach kids about these things that they're going to definitely they're encountering outside of our buildings all day every day, you know. Um, but we need to focus on the responsible use. It's good good uh promo for our movie that we have Wednesday night uh chasing childhood. It's all about social media. kids out and playing now and the value of that uh getting kids out and about. So, we did add the uh AI powered glasses as part of the prohibition. Um and that may have to change too at some point. Holograms might be the next thing that we're looking to,
038you know, address or whatever. The other one that we're really sensitive to right now is deep fakes. Yes. So, where you're a fake is a video where like I can take Adam's voice from the last board of ed meeting and do a video where it looks like Adam's talking about anything. Nothing nothing that he actually said, but it's his voice, his cadence, his words talking about how, you know, Jeff Solen should be the next prime minister of Ireland or something, you know. Um, never said any of that stuff, but it sounds and looks just like him. That's the deep fake. And the scarier thing is when, you know, um, people are, you know, putting faces and voices to naked people and, you know, or having them do things that are really appear to be very
039compromising. Um, there was a story of a principal or a scorned athletic director place, you know, puts out a social media video of the principal doing something really, really inappropriate. They fire the principal and you realize a few days later that, oh, wait, that was not the principal. That was, but it looked, but if you were watching, you thought it was. And so, it's scary on a lot of levels, but we're tackling what we can. As we do the this policy, we're going to add the AI powered glasses and keep moving forward. Chances are we'll have to add certain things as time goes by. So So that's why I'm think we can't put device. That's too encumbent. This one instead of glasses. Um I want us I want to be clear about the glasses because
040that's really emerging and popular. If We do say not limited to if we wanted to do something that was also more generic. Um I'm okay with that too, but I I really would like to call out the glasses specifically because I could see us getting challenged on that. I mean powered glasses devices. No, it's under the person device category. So yeah, any device process, store, transmitter, access information independently. I don't even know if it has to say independently. This is one. Yeah, I'm sure. The annual reading of playing catchup. I think there's some value to the fact that we're not banning anything banning cell phon that's just we are K through eight basically. Yeah, but that's ridiculous. 9 through 12. That's just going to be ridiculous as I mean these are just part of our
041lives now. Like you say them appropriate use. It's really hard to catch 22 in some respects. Like I think I told you guys height say it's just got to be banned everywhere all the time. That's not what our parents and students and staff are really looking for. I guess we could um but you know we also for practical reality you know families want to get in touch with their kids at the high school. something to happen which I don't think is really a great rationale because it would might do more harm than good in terms of being able to respond to an issue to be honest but um it's something that parents feel pretty strongly about um and you know let's pick our battles here and I really think that well it's going to be
042changing so much we'll have time to come back and look at that I'm sure I think I'm I'm looking at F right here. Um, when we're talking about taking pictures and moving pictures that use while on school property, is that under the profane decent of seen threatening or is that overall? Because that that'll be a hard one to enforce. Um, so your question Can you can I do this off school ground? Well, no. Can Can you know, say the kids are at a at a game and they're taking a video of a big play or something? Yeah, that's that's a that's a public event at that point, I would. But it's also school sponsored activity. Yeah. Yeah. Well, but also what if they're doing something for a school project? Well, and and you know, they're
043celebrating their friends, they're celebrating, you know, something good. I just, you know, because it starts out indecent and bullying and then we transition to pictures. So is that are the photographs and moving pictures intended to be part of the I see what you're asking now it just says here shall not be used for such purposes for under the bullying concept. You can't you guess. Okay. So you can't use your cell phone for those purposes. Okay. That's fine. That a school sponsor. Okay. Okay. Like you can't use it. I think there's an opportunity here to say, you know, um that we also prohibit the use of using recorded video to create deep fakes or, you know, something like we could probably put a sentence in here. It seems to be a good place to add some
044sort of prohibition against deep fakes. Um because use in a matter that's profane, indecent, obscene, threatening, [Music] discrimination of deep fakes. Yeah. I'm just going to highlight people the same way we piece up here. So, I wanted to add something for consideration perhaps. Is that the ban be extended through sophomore year? That way only upper classmen have access to their cell phones because at that point you're working probably driving you're acting more of a responsible adult where at the sophomore freshman level you're more of a kid than an adult yet. You know I think I I don't disagree with the principle of it. I think where actually I like the principle of it. Um, I think the enforcement gets to be super hard. You know, kids got a cell phone in the hallway. I'm walking
045down I don't know if you're Well, see what So, the the second part would be So, so how does it work now? Is it is it at the high school the pension is it's more don't have your phone out in class, right? And then the teacher has to enforce that, right? Essentially. Yeah. And then if you're in the hallway or something, what we've seen is I can tell you firsthand the band like being much much stricter on the band in the classrooms has translated into a lot less use in the hallway in the library. I used to walk down the hallway, everybody have the earbuds in like a you know, nobody would say hi to you. And it's not just me in the library. Same thing. Yeah. Like dude, but uh in the library a
046lot of kids even sitting at the tables together head earbuds heads down in the phone. You don't see you see a fraction of that compared to what you used to see. It's been really from my observation much better. still not perfect by any stretch, but way better. Um, and I just like that I don't disagree. Like I said, I like the idea of, you know, basically freshman, sophomore don't have it, but the enforcement of that would become really challenging to do. If you're in a study hall, which we have mixed grades in, like the study hall monitor is going to be arguing with every kid about whether they're a sophomore or a junior, you know, you got a junior sitting next to you. Like, but I'm not on my phone. I'm watching his phone, he's
047a junior, you know, like I just think it's the juice to squeeze, as they say. Got to continue to make more progress, educate people. get there. But I like the heart of it. It feels like bands are for everybody, right? Other grades. No, no. I mean other high schools for everybody even even if you're a senior which again like I you know that's the sort of thing Jonathan height you know I respect very much would argue but I disagree with um the you know I think there's a certain responsibility to teach kids about how to use it appropriately and respectfully before Yeah. I think it's it's more of a understanding what this is and what is intentionally doing to your brain. Yeah. Like it's it's it's like we should be treating this like smoking or
048drinking because that's it's as addictive as I'm there with you, you know. Yeah. So, they should know that. Yes, it's a tool, but you know, I don't know. Do we do that in health class? So, we have a cell phone section of curriculum. We'll probably be talking about that in the curriculum because the next book I have um for this summer, not to give away too much, but um the book uh was referred to me by Penny Ling, who's a professor of psychiatry from QU, who um was on our uh panel or the discussion will be on the panel again Wednesday. And um I read it, I was like, "Wow, this is is really powerful and I gave it to Mike Divine who's our not just lacrosse coach but he's the K8 or K12 department
049chair for health P. Uh I give it to a few other folks. Kristen Shanley who's the English department chair at the middle school speaks the librarian at the high school. Uh Ian Wman's the department chair for English at the high school to say where what sections of this book can we pull out and use it because there's so much rich information use it as a teaching tool um for our kids around health and wellness around social media use and the phone use and so they've been evaluating that over I didn't give out the title I'll tell you but with the author in the conversation I had with Jonathan height was talked about this is the book that we're reading that I'm reading now we're looking at doing down the road he's like oh that's that's
050crazy goes I'm writing a book with art right now for um and the cell phone. So that book may be the next resource that we can have kids reading at younger grades because it is designed like to your point to be addictive and I find it highly addictive for the amount of time I spend on it. My 10-month-old 11month-old baby right touches my I'm changing her diaper touches the colors. She's addicted to the touch and Well, that's developmentally that'll be dead. Cause effect. That's why they flip light switches on when they were, you know, that's they love that like that anything cause effect at that age. She's starting that phase. I can't have my cell phone out around it and see what happens. Yeah. And that's why they like when you make faces when they
051make faces, you know, that I'm interacting with the world. What I do people responding. So, we're trying to work on the education piece, too. I think this would be really important. So, anyway, good question there. But again, we'll have another chance to read this over again. But if you think of other things, if you see other things, um, this is going for a second. So, this uh we put definition in here too of the power. So really the big additions then is the AI power glasses. Yeah, we just added the fake piece based on the conversation. The next one I'm actually going to recommend we put on hold and we not move forward yet. Um yeah, because uh K board of directors meeting earlier, well I guess last week and Shipman Goodwin and um Bert
052and Moses are recommending that this kind of be put on hold for the moment because um they're putting out some revised guidance on this policy. So during the legislative session, so we do have to have for the current legislation, we have to have something adopted by July 1st, but given the fact that changers may be a foot and we know we've been down this road before. Um I'm just recommended we put this on, you know, keep it here for this month and not move it forward because it's likely to be tweaked again for those guys. So, is this another one of those K policy that's actually legislation? Yes. Yeah. Y and that would completely replace whatever we had. Correct. Effective July one of 2025. So, it's not current legislation. The next one is actually that
053this is like all these pages with all the definitions and everything. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Because uh like I said likely to change at some point. We'll probably have to I think next month we'll probably have to do a second reading on it. You know, we're a good spot in the queue here because we'll do May and then we'll do June um to adopt for July one, assuming that there aren't major adjustments. So, even the forms in here would replace the forms that we have. Yes. But some of the forms are a little problematic from a purple perspective for some of the attorneys. So, we're still trying to iron that out. I think that's why it's going through the legislative process. Um, this next one is uh the ICE one, undocumented students. This is what they
054called a a policy to consider. And um more recently actually the state required school systems to put in our emergency response plans. um uh our protocols for managing u the removal of undocumented students or whatever. You guys have seen the stuff I put out around the protocols for that. Um but you know it's I would recommend we don't move this forward as a policy. Again, when I talk about the legal guidance, Shipman and um Bertram both started to become more uh vocal about policy manuals and saying that, you know, you could write a policy for everything under the sun, but more often than not, those policies that aren't necessary become the focus of litigation. Um sort of to create problem benefit. Um so with policy that isn't required by statute. Um they recommend reducing those
055policies. Now that's a collective decision that you guys can certainly make, but um I would recommend you check out the Weathersfield policy manual compared to ours. They fully adopted the the policy manual. It's like insane how different it is. Um how stripped down it is and you know worry about having to update policies from 1984 because they really don't have as many policies. Now I'm not that's that's a project that the board I'm not saying we go there but I'm starting to think a little bit more about um protecting the district by not adopting policies that um are stat anything statutoily required. Yes. But things that aren't statutoily required, I think we should start to look through that lens about like is this something that we are that compelled to adopt and that would be
056something like I could have Floyd talk to you if you want. I know he's feeling now is very strong but you know so this is this is here this is what we're in essence what we're doing through our um response plan I can get you that for the next meeting if you want like what we've added in the emergency plan so the the document that we spent like 45 minutes on a couple meetings ago editing and all that stuff what was It was this. Yeah. And we we did pair it down like and again see so we could adopt this but we don't have to is my point and just and we I can share with you in the next meeting if you want to see the um the adjustment to the uh emergency response
057plan session. So we don't public. So lawyers say we don't need this. Correct. Okay. Yeah. So then what dictates what prevails? The emergency plan. The we do have to have an emergency plan and it is in the emergency plan. I can share that information. What's in there? basically how do you it's more um I would say because I know I got questions on on like what we were doing here. Yeah. Didn't didn't we have like the conversation I want to recall that it like there were elements of the initial draft that felt um we didn't like Yeah. Yeah. And it was politically Yeah. charged. And the emergency response plan is more or less just the action steps that you take. Yeah. So if they show up, yes, this is what happen. This is what you
058do. You look for a judicial warrant. Pretty much I've been saying, well, the principal may call you or or knows to look at the warrant to let them in to not interfere because then they could be arrested on a federal crime, right? You know, or whatever. And that's sort of the gist of it. Y, you know, and obviously our parents have seen that too, by the way. And that's kind of what you set down, right? And that's more like I said the response part of it. Um, so do we have to vote on this or we just No, we just don't have to move it forward. Okay. No, but we need to vote to one one forward, right? We're moving to the board for a second. forward or do we do it after and then
059this one um this is policy for discussion and further reading. So I would just you know encourage you to to review this policy uh that's linked this is our old title N. So, it turns out, as Mark said to me, the final rule was not the final rule. Um, and I'm sure that given the way of the world, you know, there'll probably be a change in this through someday. But, um, this is the we reverted back to what our policy was prior to adopting the final rule policy. Um, and this is the 2020 version. This is what we were advised to do by our attorneys to revert back to this policy. This is again another one of those things where we have to follow the law regardless of what our policy manual says, but this
060is what we would be adopting. So, do we have to we don't have to go through the Yeah. So, we I mean, if there's anything we need to change, but I wouldn't recommend it. Um, so it's just That's it. It's That's it. Okay. And so this uh so reverting back back to 2020, does it get does that get rid of all of that newer language that was problematic as far as um sexual harassment uh like tribunals for lack of a better word that were being set up that violated furpa and all that stuff. Yeah. That's all gone. Everything that was in the policy that we adopted is gone. Yeah. And this one we revert back to this one. Okay. Question. We got more questions. Starting to resent the time. All right. We did spend a
061lot of time with that play was like a lot of us doing it. like for me it's like the last seven years. God, you you've ridden this roller coaster before. Yeah. So, and then that was the last item we had on the agenda. So, really after all that, we're talking about moving this guy forward. Oh, I'm sorry. Second. Second. Any discussion? All in favor? Did you get that? I did. Motion to move. Second. All in favor? Second. All in favor? Beautiful. We're good.