001who are not Thanksgiving people there's another holiday you must substitute for that turkey hello only because I can't stand it the next day and I don't like the leftovers with everything else okay maybe one day maybe maybe even that like uh no nothing no no turkey soup no turkey I just can't stand turkey so it's both The Taste but it's especially bad day after well actually pushing it if you're even feeding it to me on Thanksgiving okay anyone else say churches thank you Lord all right what else I don't like yams talk to us about your hatred of DMs I don't like the sweet S I like sweet and savior and other things but I didn't like the question because my husband loves it but I I don't I'll make a little batch for him
002he's the only one who eats it yes or like the Mexican way where they put the milk in the end that's my mom I'm like ew that's not cereal yeah it's regular milk wow okay they make a soup out of it interesting not not your not your beauty Alex yeah wow wow got it anyone else going off of that for anything or I was thinking the sweet tamales like you said I I'm not a fan I am spicy you need to have meat in my opinion I was having a hard time coming up with the food but thank you like typically like pineapple chunks and raisins oh all right I don't like eggs I want to be the type of person who likes eggnog like you know people have holiday parties I know that's the
003best [Music] or no it's different I don't think so yeah that's what makes it taste better any other ones least favorite holiday food I think it depends everybody makes a different Thanksgiving dinner I noticed because like my mother-in-law makes a difference she makes like um salad um I think it's a some Peppa beans and then like the turkey and then uh potato salad egg salad and then we don't we have all the you know like the mashed potatoes green beans corn um we have put in the capital of disgusting but I don't add it myself I'll go over and be like okay guys you know but I won't that's what I'm gonna think I'm like no that's not Thanksgiving but everybody does something different I think everywhere I've seen them like okay so yeah that's
004the only thing Christmas I've never seen Thanksgiving company um some people actually make it and I was surprised too because I don't like it at all anyway so there's people that make it all year round yeah I think it's gross soggy for it I don't think so it's like a bread it's like a Mexican bread puddy okay except they put um like crazy a bunch of stuff peanuts and oh yeah okay this shouldn't be in there yeah after a while how about you ladies me personally I'll eat anything that's in front of me except pumpkin pie [Music] eggs we I I just can't live by especially cake no cake is so it's with the frosting cake is like okay but I really like the dessert person except when it comes to like cookies or brownies
005okay any others yeah I feel like for me I agree I can't really eat pie like okay you live with me in apple pie is that it gets soggy and like I hate that because there's not a proportionate ratio between the you know the bread and then like you know the Apple slice of everything and then secondly pumpkin pie it's dry and like it's like it doesn't even have a good taste like for me I just don't think I could like even whipped cream can't say that like to me especially don't eat the question you just need to feel me that's a question I would rather eat the crust than like the actual pie okay because there's two sweets yeah I would also excited to Cheesecake yeah so the same time is it picture yeah
006I think so I just don't like it well I can't eat a feeling for cheesecake but like you know I just have my cheesecake challenge accepted [Music] um I don't like ham period what anytime especially on Thanksgiving just because of how it looks I think it just stresses me out like yeah what is it about how they handle it goes um it just looks like it's not like it's just like really Pinky and like I can't no I don't like it to be like I'm not with a pineapple on it yeah no yeah I guess I don't like I'm not a big meat eater yeah but especially how because I don't like the stuff they put inside the turkey yeah you don't like stuffing what is it about the stuffing that you're you're not into
007it's just like they are like awesome all right I'm okay with stuff I love stuffing as long as it doesn't have meat in it but don't like stuff it with sausage you know okay oysters awesome um all right so uh we want to start with updates um and hear about again if you're willing to share how the board meeting went um that'd be awesome and then we'll talk about plans it was really nice um that um really sorry and Jesse were there I I wasn't sure who was gonna go um [Music] Carolina was there yes Carolina was sitting here sitting front and center on the dice [Music] yeah and and you both um really nice to go up and announce the mascot yeah together that we did that together and I had written something really
008quickly and sassy read it over Nathan read it over um also um Jack Luke Jackie who isn't here today she read it so a few people I felt confident after that you know so um it was helpful I felt like it was a nice team effort and yeah it felt really nice I felt proud and and to represent us all you know because I really tried to put together what we've been talking about and experiencing here and I tried to mention everybody you know as a part of that um so yeah I hope I hope I did okay with that I appreciate it everyone no yeah thank you [Music] and I really appreciate both of you I really do um for allowing us a lot of freedom within the limits you know but um and
009I appreciate everybody I really do so yeah I but like I should be the one up there during this it should be all of us but it worked out yeah I was happy to do it yeah everyone online stinky it's uh Nathan hi everybody I can hear you can you hear me yeah okay great this is so awkward I can see you all but yeah yeah I know just wanted to say uh Danny you did a great job and um it's not easy to go up and speak and it's not easy just to speak on this issue in general right so you know I really commend you for taking that on yourself and going up there to speak again this represent the whole committee and I think you did a great job and I I
010uh I know that you know everyone feels the same way so thank you so much thank you Nathan my heart was pounding so hard I was using my meditation techniques in there and I'm glad it worked out yeah we went ahead and took what uh Diana said that night and on our Azusa High School mascot committee page on our website we went ahead and put that like a decision update and put what what she wrote so just FYI [Music] and if there's something on there I missed or I did incorrectly please let me know I really like I I wish I would have said more about you ladies and the high school Representatives because you've been such an inspiration like for me personally and I'm just like yes this is the future and yeah I
011wish I would have said more about that but So the plan for tonight is we will discuss what we do not want to see what you do not want to see the design firm's mock-up to the mascot um and then I said that we're going to talk about what we wanted to see but in fact it sounds like there's going to be a survey sent out to the whole community and so that everyone can participate in this as a group to kind of help create injury map what the mascot might look like um Archer do you want to speak to yeah the same night that uh we presented to the Board of Education the decision of this committee uh we also had a contract I go to the Board of Education this is a group
012called bot exchange it's a web-based uh company and what they do is they take uh open-ended qualitative surveys and mash it with social media um and so it's a great way to get uh qualitative data um into this system and let's say Ms Fernandez goes on there and I'm just making up the question this is not exactly but you know um what qualities would you like to see in the design of the jaguar versus high school just as an example and then miss France can put you know um our students are Fierce the future is bright and so we would I would love to have the Jaguar kind of be fierce and bright this is an example um and then two days later um the sport goes on there and she puts whatever she's gonna
013put but then the social media will start to kick in and then she will be asked can you please rate these comments not all of them she'll just get a random batch of comments and she'll be able to rate them um and so it kind of starts lifting up the prominent voices of those that are filling out the survey um and what I really love about it is that the survey when you get the survey you can put it in whatever language you want to put it in and then you take the survey in that language you type it in in that language when you are rating other people's comments they come in your language to rates but when it spits it out to to use end users then it spits it out in English
014so we don't have you know 13 different surveys one in Spanish one in English one in Mandarin you know there's just one complete survey but those people that want to experience a survey in a language other than English can and they can participate without feeling kind of left out and the the the the um the survey will again generate in that in that language and so uh this will be our launch with this program uh we are hoping to use it in a multitude of ways but this will be our launch and then we can put some demographic data so uh please tell us if you're a student alumni Community member parents staff or whatever so that we can also start seeing it in that and kind of that way as a whole this is
015what we think of a Jaguar but maybe the Board of Education wants to see but what do the students think and so we can pull that out as well to see if it matches or if it or if it's different um so even though we just got it I did have a conversation with them today um and right now it looks like we would launch that the Monday we get back from Thanksgiving break and it would be open for Monday to Monday so eight days um and then we would just do a massive blast social media blast emails um um Peach star like oh everything that we have in our power uh to put it out there too so there's a feedback awesome and then you'll take that data and then send that on to
016yes then we'll take that data send it on to the designer um which is yet to be named we don't know yet but whatever desire to have that in front of them to say okay and when they design it they can try to capture those sentiments in the design so all of the information gathered will be presented to the board and then they'll take it from there or they don't have any further decision with them um maybe at the end the designer will narrow it down to maybe three options okay so they will present their options to the board and then the board can say your name yeah or we will present that okay and maybe the board has a different decision maybe the board has a different idea but for right now that's kind
017of the way that I can Envision that so just kind of taking everybody's ideas and putting them together yeah so I'll give you one example in here somebody just mentioned oh it'd be nice to have like a hint of red and then some people say oh that'd be nice that'd be nice that that's the concept okay right so if somebody put it puts says you know hey it'd be nice to have a hints around to honor Platt so as is an example again those comments can start to be liked or rated high or whatever so that they can start raising over the broad spectrum of people correct right correct yeah and so there's certain comments then we'll that will rise to the top and those yeah probably the ones yeah so taking people's words and
018turning into divisions yes got it yeah I've heard really powerful stuff about this and again we're looking to use it for lots of different ways but this is this is how we'll kick it on any questions about that just something all right um all right so that means that for tonight what we're just talking about what we the committee does not want to see and design firms mock-ups like what what do we not want to see in the genre and this is specifically for the sake of maintaining an image that is culturally appropriate right um so yeah let's just shall we just open up the floor any thoughts I have a question will the Jaguar replace all current logos that are being used now like the spear and the A and all that will replace
019everything on all uniforms signs no head so I'm assuming that when we go out for the for the design of the logo and the mascot of course high schools uh you typically don't have a designer create a logo or a mascot you get a set right because sometimes you need it for the table dressing sometimes you need it for a hat something sometimes you need it for your stationery and so you get a set of logos so I I can't imagine um like the a being updated you know polished up so I do see some of those updates um I don't see um like like a unless something has the current mascot there's that would be like an automatic like the football field as an example right but if a uniform right now says like
020AHS I I don't see that like oh that has to be changed right away don't they have a couple murals in like in the gym and on the wall yes those will be replaced what about the ones donated by like specific classes probably yeah we'll deal with those as we go along but yeah and some people have made some suggestions like maybe like um if it's that big maybe replicating it as smaller and have like a little Museum or like a story of the past or something like that yeah like right there in the gym where they have all those trophies and things like that would they be so would that be considered that could be like the little four years or in the library or something you know I'm not saying that's gonna happen
021for sure and they just said something that we have discussed and talked about good questions so any other questions or just something the ideas all right so ideas there's a specific the things that uh the community does not want to see um in order to maintain that maintain the image is um cultural appropriate mess well I actually have something yeah um I think that the Jaguar I don't know the right word maybe it's iconography but I don't think you should have Aztec iconography so I don't think it should look like an Aztec carving of the Jaguar because we talked about not appropriating cultural images so that's my I was thinking the same thing like a headdress or a spear or something of drama or something like that like the pyramids or something representing the Aztecs
022did you know what you're talking about I'm just saying yeah that it shouldn't be there and even the Jaguar itself should not um I think we saw a picture of one of the proposals that was full of jewels and Beads and right not like that yeah like the Aesthetics of a Jaguar itself and you're also saying like like things that might accompany the Jaguar that we you don't want to see like things that are um associated with the assets okay what would this out would this capture it this way so the Jaguar you shouldn't be able to see the jaguar and say oh that's an Aztec Jaguar correct correct anything else I agree and I've had a couple people mention um at Azusa High School using the Jaguar as a headdress like the Jaguar itself
023as a headdress and I thought that was a little it's a good idea you know to have a mascot where a student or an adult could put the Jaguar head on in the Jaguar mouth is open and the face is in there I just think we we would have to be careful that it doesn't look as Tech because there are Aztec headdresses and Aztec Dancers use them now and there there are images of them in the past the Aztecs actually used so to be careful not that it doesn't look as Tech and it just looks like a jaguar yeah or like a more traditional mascot that you see run out in the field or exactly during rallies or whatever um but if you look at it you wouldn't think that there's a relationship to the
024Aztecs any other thoughts there's also space if we want to voice counter opinions here we can discuss those too much oh look at Jacksonville Jaguars mascot oh I have one more but it doesn't look like a cartoon okay because I've seen some cartoony Jaguars because they just don't look strong you know it's such a strong animal that it should be given it's Justice you know to represent it in its strength and so a cartoon I've seen a few cartoon images online and they just don't look it just doesn't look right now that the Cheetos yeah is that more of a she would like it being culturally inappropriate or is that more of like an aesthetic kind of preference in your mind it's both okay I think it's both can you talk to us a little
025bit more about like the cultural appropriate because the Jaguar truly is a power animal it is a it's a it's a very important animal and and it is culturally um respected highly the jaguar and so I feel like we should um represent it in a way that respects that but also where we see it and we feel it's strength I don't know how to say that you know like we can feel the pride of the Jaguar when you look at it and so a cartoon figure I wouldn't hear that I don't think high school students do it I don't know yeah I also agree because I think of Jaguar I mean a cartoon version I think of more of an elementary school level you see that more of that you see that more of a
026child's level maybe so you want kind of a more mature looking one I think we went to the CIF football games game on Friday night and it happened their mascot was a jaguars so it was interesting because I was looking at all the things they had and there's it was nice the way they had it on the football field and on their scoreboard and stuff that's all I could see but um their helmets too I think had something um but yeah it was more um like you would see like on a professional football team more apps maybe even on the field is a little bit more abstract with the Jaguar it wasn't I mean with their school colors and I thought that looked that looked nice that looked that was good I agree about the
027cartoonish I'm related more to like an elementary like childish more so and I like the Lee lion exactly podcast I mean that's cute [Laughter] uh any any other thoughts I saw some other nodding around here unlike the cultural appropriateness of the want to think of like a cartoon Jaguar well I just don't feel like that's and I'm speaking for you so feel free to jump in but all of our high school Representatives talked about having a mascot they could be proud of and I don't want to be a caricature I don't want to be something that's making fun of the Jaguar because it represents the student box it should be something that they could go proud about and I as I'm really glad there'll be a survey that includes everybody because then you'll have their
028voices you need to look tough like the way she did the dog that dog like tough [Laughter] I guess like for me I am deviating a bit away from a cartoonish display from like she echoed and also because like what she echoed as well with the um no matter what our mascot has always been associated with the aspect because aspect is in our name so automatically when people look at it there's domestic Jaguars okay so the Jaguar is going to be Aztec right but then they see a cartoon they don't add up that contrast already seems like it's cultural appropriation we're misrepresenting it based on cartoon modernize right it might be yeah so that's why I'm against not just for that sake and also because you know I mentioned this before the accident Jaguar is
029not something that students you know wanted initially but this is something that we have to like learn to like grow affiliated with it like learn to resonate with it because ultimately it's going to become a part of our school identity it's just one of many things the masculinity comprised of all of our identity it's just one of many and our students have the ability and so do administrating staff to choose how to value that so that's why I strongly believe in what you said with fortitude and strengths and having that Holiness especially when we see it in games and pride and all of the other events because having a cartoon I don't believe would you know exemplify that as much as having a more realistic and more honorable approach if that makes sense um yes
030yeah great anything else other ideas or other things we want to say about that I want to cut it off we're still being discussed that so I think when you think of a Jaguar it's going to be basically one simple color and that's it it's what's going to be around it that'll probably make it pop you know a Jaguar is a Jaguar what can you really do with a jaguar and stripes or Cheeto print or whatever you know I mean there's not much you can do um it's just I think it's going to be more what you want around it so like they said as long as we don't put anything that's going to be offensive I think you know it's fine I think the Jaguar color I think the color of the Jaguar should
031remain black not a white not a stripe not a you know because I know there's several species of jaguars I think the Jaguars should remain black just to keep it in general and then of course the design around it like she's like loses the same could be a little bit different but to keep the main part of the Jaguar block what if the background's locked [Music] I mean most of the Jaguar logos they have they do have like a Cheeto print on it they most of them do but there are those that are black so I mean you could and if it like she said it does have a black then maybe kind of changes that maybe do the cheetah print on it but still just maybe like black and I don't know whatever colors
032instead like the blue or the background's black I think these are great ideas I'm wondering we're kind of creeping into like the aesthetic like what we want to see as opposed to like what we don't want to see right right because what we want to see it's going to be a larger Community discussion right um is there anything that we don't want to see just for the very same like cultural several colors for the sake of like culturally appropriate spots and stripes and all that I think it should just be plain a solid a solid color whatever the color ends up being not patterned so it's not a pattern not a pattern on it I guess so it's looking at Jaguars I didn't realize they had so many spots on them I know right I
033was thinking more of a panther I guess me too so cool ones are like that too and it may turn out that the designer just emit the spots just because they won't show up well on different surfaces sure um I'm open to seeing what a designer offers I'm not gonna say no it has to be a sleek black panther because now I mean no we're Jaguars and now we've handcuffed the design here right that's true and um and I appreciate this but people actually have they know where the Jaguars now so people have been submitting I know that um we had a good uh representation uh shown to us uh and now people have been just like oh what about this what about this um and again it'll go to save their ideas submit it
034with the survey you know it'll go to to a to to a designer a design firm um but just interesting you guys are saying like some have submitted a jaguar and it has like a swath of blue um and then they heard our like red and then like I was like and I I got I don't know that we want to close ourselves off to two ideas that a designer might have that like oh that pops like oh like I never would have thought about that but that's like that's something you know so what the designers might come up with but also what you know the students and the rest of the community absolutely yeah like yeah staying open to that I was just more concerned with the cultural yeah right yeah and I like
035the way now the kind of took um Diana's like cartoonish because like if someone were to say well wait a minute you have to ask the Jaguars and now you're making fun of it because your characterizing there as a cartoon like I didn't think about it that in that respect yeah I think just on the other end of like not wanting it to be cartoonish we also are for me personally I don't think we would want it to look um like too gruesome like we wanted to look strong you know and and represent the you know the school and the community in a strong um vibrant way but we also don't want it to be on the other end of the spectrum where it's gruesome you know like how blood yeah that also could be
036like a negative um appropriation of the of the Jaguar as well awesome that Dr red smell anything else that's a good question yeah so um I'm just wondering because I feel like I misunderstood or maybe I just like flanked out but um what's the reason for like wanting just no patterns on the Jaguar like what's the main reason for that like in regards to cultural appropriation because I know I came up but I'm not sure like why we wouldn't want that on there yeah to me it sounded like that was leaning toward the more aesthetic kind of preference um that we just started that conversation and it wasn't necessarily linked with whole appropriation um am I am I right about that um yeah so I don't think you landed on the code for appropriation or
037the cultural inappropriates although I if we do take Its Spots away it's not a Jaguar I just worry about that a little bit and if we keep the spots something about the color of it like I mean it's beautiful I I it's gorgeous I love it but I just don't it doesn't feel right like to have the color so I agree with the black but what if we have it black and white with black and white colors and stuff like a shading of white or something yeah instead of using the actual color the brownish orange color I just thought about that like I wouldn't want to lose the spots but maybe just no color just black and white so they see that it's a jaguar looks like a Jaguar because you can miss it misappropriate
038I mean uh misinterpreted as a panther yeah [Music] they get sent out right to contribute like those and then they laughing at me realistic [Music] um but yeah and then we can you know then the community can vote on it right and and those ideas can charge so anything else just really focused on things that are culturally inappropriate that we don't want to see in the design there might not be much more to say so I don't wanna I think we've just maybe the way like say it's gonna have like an outfit like like a teacher or like a skirt or something I don't know it shouldn't um like representing like an aspect how they dress I feel like if there were to be like a uniform design you should be like like maybe just
039like like a jersey or something associated with that so it's not like appropriating like an aspect of how they dress yeah it's great all right friends anything else we need to talk about yeah all right thank you all for being here for continuing to show up for the time and energy you produce this um it's it's been I mean I understand like all this is volunteer time none of you are getting paid to do this so thank you for for being willing to be a part of this process it's it's been it's been really great to work with all of you yeah and I urge you to jump on that uh not exchange um the more again we can give the designer I think the better and um um I'm sure that will land on
040something uh that represents uh the will of the stakeholders um and we move from there so again just Echo Jessica thank you so much for your time um and for Allah where we landed so thank you