001um all right it is 5 30 p.m welcome everyone to another school reorganization team um meeting uh like always i want to start off by uh thanking you uh for being here uh thank you for being part of this process uh um so so so once again uh thank you for being here and thank you for participating and thank you for engaging and thank you for your ideas i had a fun um a fun last couple of days uh interacting with uh with you all a lot of you personally about your ideas and what you have brought forward um i want to take a little bit of time to explain uh what today is going to look like um and then also explain uh our next steps okay uh so number one uh over the
002course of um the last uh couple of days uh there have been a total of six new ideas for model three okay um i was very uh clear with everyone that in no way shape or form could they change the model the model had to remain intact well what does model 3 mean sixes one tk8 one middle school one high school now in terms of where the tk's tk sixes are or what the tk sixes are or the tka or the middle school or the high school it's everything is wide open and it's all fair uh but participants were not allowed to say okay well model three i want to change it back to two high schools or i want to add three middle schools that was not allowed because we had already decided on
003the model so there are six ideas for model 3 that keep model 3 as we had decided and we had agreed upon for model 4 there are four new ideas of what model 4 might look like and when i say new ideas i mean ideas different than what we had originally presented uh tonight we are going to i think i was able to reach out to most of you if i if i if i did it i apologize and don't worry about it we we have an escape clause if that's what you need but we have asked um the creators of these ideas to walk us through these ideas right so this is what i did i moved this school here because of xyz i moved this school down here because of this i thought
004that it'd be better if we can do this school and so they're just going to walk us through their plan their idea we as a team are going to be excited that there are folks who took the time to present new ideas to us that doesn't mean that we agree with those ideas but that means that we applaud we thank we and we're appreciative that people went out of their ways to think about new and fresh ideas okay so we're gonna let them walk us through those ideas again we're showing appreciation for that and we're lit we're being good listeners to understand their ideas not to judge not to react but just to understand them and we have if if we don't run out of time we have 10 of those ideas tonight six for
005model three four for model four and that's the objective of tonight that's it to listen and understand these 10 ideas there might be depending because this is live television there is no script this can go so many different ways and so there might be an opportunity for clarification and questions i don't know we'll see how that how that plays out as we go along that's all we're doing tonight let me tell you next steps after this tonight you might have been an author of an idea you're one of the 10 people or one of the 10 ideas tonight maybe you did not author an idea tonight but no matter if you did or if you did not between the between the end of this meeting and sunday night we are going to accept edit read
006like pull outs like um i had that idea but after listening to other ideas i my idea is no longer it makes no sense or whatever that may be or again some something inspired you tonight and now you have now you have a different idea so between tonight and sunday night this team will be allowed to submit edits delete or a brand new idea that we want considered again just like i was able to have a conversation with a lot of you that does not mean we are altering the model the model is done congratulations to this team good matter and different you know what that was our best thinking and we should be proud of that now the reason we want sunday night is because we want to get in front of you of
007this team to be able to share all of these ideas or or the the the edits or the deletes in a in an early timely manner so you have some time to process what has come to you i will summarize for you uh in an email like hey model 3.4 the author of that model has decided that after listening to everything that idea is no longer valid or they don't they they want to pull that model or you know what after listening uh they really like what the other person did so they've changed it so now they've swapped these schools you know what whatever that may be after listening to to each other's presentations right then when we get to wednesday and again this is live tv right so all of this can change this
008is just right now what we are thinking when we get to wednesday we will start engaging in a protocol to take these six model threes which could go which could which could grow or could decrease depending on what happens between now and sunday night and then working on a protocol to start narrowing that down to a model three same thing with model four taking the model fours four of them that are being presented tonight again that could go to five models or six that could also go down to two i do not know what happens between now and sunday but the idea is that we get to wednesday and we start narrowing that model 4. at this point in time up to up to now nobody in this room unless you wanted to of course
009but that's that's neither here nor there we are not talking about what is our preferred model three or four that is not our task right now our task is to understand the model threes and narrow it down understand the model fours and narrow it down and then of course we have a lot of work to do after that because before you can decide on if you're going to go with model 3 or if you're going to go with model 4 there's a lot of information that we need to bring forward to you to help you kind of really dig in and really understand uh so you can have uh again a good sense of where where we are going this is my final thing before we begin our presentations tonight i want to just reiterate
010um in phase one um call it consensus call it luck call it you know destiny whatever that whatever you want to call it the team pretty much coalesced around we don't want model one we don't want model two um coalesced around these are the two models that we want to talk about and coalesce around eventually these decisions around around model three but i want to reiterate that once we get to that point of the final moment whenever that is and however that is um this group does not have to be a hundred percent on the same page right we're not asking to force your opinion uh one way or the other it has to be 100 or nothing it is perfectly okay to go to the board of education and and share with them the
011data of this team again if it happens that it's one model that this team champions then so be it if the team is split between the models so be it right well we what we owe to the board as a team what we owe to them is the correct data to say this is how the team uh responded so i i lied there is one more thing um the district had come to you with model model uh a version of model three and a version of model four right and then you all went and started working on those models and changing them around and making decisions on on that because we have six model three and four model fours we are going to step back our initial ideas we want to applaud your ideas and
012say we're gonna concentrate on the ideas that were created by this team and so we are going to remove the model threes and the model fours that we initially brought forth mission accomplished we brought forth a product so you can chew on and you can see what it looks like and then now you have the ability to create and so uh so when i say that there are six model threes there really are six model threes because the seventh model which is the districts for right now is gonna come off the table and when i say there are four model fours you all created four model fours there is a fifth one which is the one that we brought forth but again we're gonna retract that one and concentrate on the four that you all
013created all right um i sent everyone an email um that has uh all of these models uh on a on a spreadsheet i'm gonna be sharing my screen uh but if it's easier for you to to do it that way great um if not no worries i'm about to start i'm about to start sharing my screen right now give me one second okay if i did this right where is it at share screen um [Music] i think that's right do you all see um do you all see my the spreadsheets yes all right awesome okay so that being said um i am going to go in the order uh that we receive these um that's all we're doing we're just going in the order that i received these these ideas um again i want to
014be thankful and appreciative of the people that worked on these um you're just sharing the model this is how it works this is what it is this is why we did what we did you will notice that i took away the three-year phase-in stuff because that's just noise for right now we really just want to talk about the models so with that being said i think i need to turn it over to mrs fish sorry i wasn't ready i was printing out your models or them that you sent so um okay this is my dalton model um i want to note first that i am not familiar with the programs or the demographic demographics of where our students live so my models are based solely off of the capacity of the schools and the locations
015of where they are located so for my models i noticed that north uh i'm sorry south of the 210 in the models we were keeping four schools we were keeping one school in between first street and foothill and only one school north of foothill so i wanted to adjust that to have had um dalton and hodge both north of foothill to make sure that we're taking account all the students who would live north of sierra madre and also up in the rosedale area keeping one school kind of in the middle which would be lee and then adjusting it to have the three schools south of the 210 which would be magnolia paramount and dolly dale and with that model i changed dalton to be our tk8 because dalton is already a stem school that having
016it absorb the tk8 the seventh and eighth graders it could allow for them to have a focus on their um on their electives so as part of the will their teachers would now be specialized in that stem program where it could help them have something a little bit better than whatever other teachers at another location that aren't specialized in something could be if that makes sense um i think that was it for that model awesome i'm going to take a pause while she collects her um her thoughts because amber actually has a second model three um but i wanna say just for the rest of us that are on dock um that's perfect right she stated what she did she stated why she did it in this case it was important for her to think
017about location so she said two in the north one in the middle three in the south um and so that's that's uh that's a perfect a perfect start miss fish um was there anything else here or do i move on to 3.2 3.2 okay so now we're going to move on to the second model three okay there it is so this model is a little bit different and we actually realized that myself and another parent came up with the same model and submitted it so i'm going to share a couple of my notes as to why i did it this way and then we'll let her share her notes as well so it's keeping with the same idea of having um two schools in northern uh north azusa one in the middle and three south
018of the gives us hajj and dalton being at tk sixes uh switching powell to be in instead of lee and keeping paramount and valley um south of the 210 but taking out magnolia and murray and turning center middle school into a tk8 this allows for a larger campus that would have a larger cafeteria locker rooms for the kids who play sports in the 7th and 8th grade a gym labs for science and would also um sorry i do realize that there are additional costs with sending with changing the center middle school into an elementary school because we do have to add in preschools now and section off a section for kindergarteners and tk's as well um also adding some playground equipment for other kids so i'm not sure that this would be financially responsible of
019us if this is if this is the model but i do feel that having the larger campus um is beneficial to those seventh and eighth graders that would be part of that tk program and also because that one um campus is so large that's why i switched out dalton for powell to kind of adjust our numbers to be a little higher capacity and that's all my notes for those um i'll speak on this model as well um although initially i uh didn't vote for a tk8 in our district if our district is going to do one i think it being at a middle school location um could be a way to make sure that there's ample facilities for the older children i do realize the numbers work out that um murray could actually um also
020serve as a tk8 with magnolia's student body added in i wanted to add a couple um caveats to the fact that we are parents there's a lot we don't know about the programs at different schools about the facilities of all the different locations and we are although we're presenting these models i'm not saying this is what i'm necessarily going to vote for i can't wait to hear what other people are going to present and the reasons why there's a couple things that have been brought to my attention about maybe a special ed hub at one of these schools district kitchens think things that we we we don't know um also i will note that our own schools um of hodge um are unaffected by this and that um i did look at maybe the tka
021being at center i'm sorry at slauson instead and hodge and dalton being a feeder school for that but i i really felt like um dalton with one of it with its um stem pathway and powell with its arts pathway that we keep those programs intact that if it's a school wide school site-wide program um i really didn't feel like that could be moved some of the other reasons why um sorry i have like a million notes um the other the reason why um paramount hodge and valleydale are also not on the list for possible closures are the fact that they are they have the three largest enrollments they have the least amount of projected open seats um there's also the dual immersion program at hodgen valley dale although it's not a school-wide program i also
022want to see that we considered not just capacity i considered population size of school capacity of school site proximity to a prior school closure knowing that we had recently closed down two elementary schools um i didn't think that closing schools nearby that those those families have already moved schools from gladstone and mountain view and also the distance to a nearby elementary so um the uh lee to um dalton is only 0.8 miles obviously the traverse is true dalton tilley is also within a very um small radius and um the distance between um sorry ellington to valley dell is .6 miles which is the smallest distance between any of our elementary schools that i i made mad notes trying to figure out all the distances between all the elementary schools so i apologize if i didn't
023get that right but um i believe that that is one of the closest distances um i know that that ellington does um help us reach a demographic and covina um that we would perhaps lose some seats be because of that and they also have a linkedin also has only 33 projected open seats which is quite low um and it it's not easy to pick any schools but those are some of the reasons why we came up with this model thank you mrs fish and mrs wilson perkins very appreciative um okay uh we're going to go we're going to move on to the third model three and for that we're going to call mr anthony contreras yeah this is going to be very uh clicking quick and clean uh the only thing that came up is
024when i when the capacity numbers changed a little bit and since we were turning about out at capacity i just noted it notated that in the middle school setting with one middle school the the smallest site would contain the biggest capacity because it would you know we would be more on the equilibrium side but uh truthfully uh when once that number changed all three sites would now become viable options to to house there and we might need to take into consideration other other points but uh in terms of just straight capacity it's the site that would uh maximize out capacity borrowing other things sir don't undersell yourself one other change that you made um you also said hey if we're gonna if we're gonna if we're gonna rebrand the new high school we would have
025to rebrand if we're only gonna have one middle school we would need to have a a new middle school as well and uh rebrand that as uh to stay consistent so if we're going to have one high school rebranded we would have one middle school that should also be rebranded okay those were those were just my two points for this particular model thank you sir welcome all right moving on to the fourth model three uh we're gonna call mr antonio flores thank you mr ortega good evening everyone uh so taking into account uh comments that were made last week and concerns that were made last week regarding the programs at dalton and powell also the investment that has been done with our teachers and training them to be you know efficient with the programs there
026my idea again thinking outside the box as mr ortega said last week you know think outside the box what could we do if we were to rebrand this was to take foothill create that a tk8 bringing dalton and bao powell to foothill and creating a magnet steam school so we still have our stem and we still have our performing arts and our and our teaching our teaching cohorts are together our student cohorts stay together our programs stay together so our foothill becomes a magnet steam magnum foothill becomes a tk8 magnet steam school then slauson becomes a traditional 7 8 school um and my thinking was you know and again speaking for paramount you know we have a fledgling stem club you know shout out to mr mr hartman for getting that started with us but
027you know after sixth grade you know my kids may still want to continue with stem and so now they have an option they can go to our magnet steam school and continue with the stem work also again speaking from paramount we do at the end of the year a a play and so our kids could get that taste of the performing arts and perhaps they want to continue that and again that's an option that now we have a magnet steam school where they can continue with performing arts or they want to do behind the scenes they want to be graphic they want to do the graphics for the video cameras and so now slauson is an option and another idea was now we have a tk8 magnet steam school option on the east side of
028our city and a traditional middle school on the west side of us of our city so that was my thoughts behind this this uh this model thank you sir okay we're going to move on to our fifth model three and for that i'm going to call on miss margie avison i believe meg will be speaking to this one or jen okay great um so the four of us teachers that are on this community got together to try to um share our ideas and and so like mrs fish and mrs wilkins perkins kind of you know worked together we did the same and and then margie sent it off to you so that's why her name was on it um um one i want to say to antonio that i i really like and appreciate your
029idea of the of the the kind of bigger tk8 right there and absorbing the steam school i think that's great and i wish i had thought of that for this model um we thought of it for the other one but not this one and so i want to just give you a kudos for that um and everybody's ideas that's not to everybody but um i want to share why we left ellington at tk8 here and that is the history of the school and i know that some parents had shared that at the board meeting but our reasoning for putting ellington back there is because it was originally created to be a tk because we were hemorrhaging kids and losing them to covina and it was one way for us to capture those kids and keep
030them there and then inevitably a huge percentage of those students then went on to gladstone instead of leaving and going to northview and so we all felt as a group of teachers knowing this history that that closing ellington in any fashion would really really affect our ada and so we were really looking at it simply from a perspective of keeping our our kids in the community and you know also knowing that ellington is located in covina and a lot of the kids from the unincorporated parts of azusa go to ellington it's just an essential to leave it open that's why we took it off the yellow section and put it back up so we wanted you to understand our reasoning and then the reason we moved lee down again was because of a capacity issue
031um and we felt like these schools that were potentially looking at at closing are schools where they can be absorbed by other schools nearby in their entirety almost because in order to protect those programs we all feel as teachers that you're literally going to have to pick them up and move them over and put them down because otherwise if you do this gradual transition process which i know our churro has taken off um so that we're not worrying about that but if we do do that you're going to slowly be chopping up the teachers and sending them and the kids to other places whereas if you if you literally pick up dalton and hypothetically speaking you moved it over to hodgen you dropped it right there that whole program those kids everything is going to
032stay intact so whichever ones we close i think that that's part of our thinking behind why we looked at these particular schools also i want to say we did look at lee and bring it down to that part of the list because it's a non-modernized school and while i really do appreciate anthony and antonio's ideas about um you know um you know utilizing slauson in some way or another um again not not a modernized school and i know we're not talking money now but that is part of our thinking in the sense of why do we want to invest millions of dollars in in schools when we already have the certain ones that are modernized and then take those dollars and put them into a brand new pool at the high school or whatever it
033is you decide to do so that is our thinking behind why we made these choices thank you just to be 100 clear so that last the last piece was your rationale on why foothill is quote unquote the middle school is that correct yes in this model yes awesome thank you all right thank you we are at our sixth model um three and for this one we're gonna turn it over to miss kimberly c so for me um mine was kind of like what amber and melissa said more geographical um so i would bring dalton back so there's more schools on the north end i would either leave ellington as a tk6 and and then make maybe paramount the tk8 so it's more central geographically to the city and then close lee and powell and that
034was it that was it for me thank you i appreciate that so a silent round of applause to our six uh presenters today again uh thank you for pushing yourselves uh for thinking you know how can this model three work best again i want to reiterate these are your opinions and opinions can never be wrong um are there eventually right we can't have six model threes so eventually we're gonna have to start working at chipping away and chipping away and chipping away and chipping away but what a great start and i applaud again your your your efforts your time uh your ideas on on getting us through this all right so we are now moving on to [Music] model four uh we have four model fours and so we are going to begin with yvette
035valdez hello hi so um my idea was um mostly based on location um so i chose dalton hodge powell magnolia murray ellington slauson um and of course the suzanne gladstone um i chose these schools um because of where they are located in the city um um wanted to make sure that ellington powell um stayed open just because in the area that they're in they're neighboring um uh very closely to other districts so glendore and kovina and i feel that we would lose a lot of students closing those schools i'm in this meeting as a or i'm in this committee as a parent but i also have the opportunity to work for the district and um i actually see how many transfers yearly we actually um get coming in and out of the district and i
036think i averaged about 220 transfers out to kolina and glendora on a yearly basis alone that's not taking other districts um into consideration for that number so that was one of my big concerns was if we closed down powell um dalton ellington uh gladstone high school that not only are we going to lose a lot of our current students but siblings and um so on so that's why i chose them um i also chose i chose slauson um as one of the schools originally my thinking was that maybe hopefully if there was any way of incorporating back in a tka or a middle school that slauson would work as that but if not that could also work as a school to cover the an area that um is kind of empty for those families between
037hodge and ellington um so slauson could be another tk6 um to fill the gap in that side of the city um let me see if i'm just looking over my notes and i think that was it for me i think those were my main points of why i chose those schools thank you miss mildes i appreciate it all right moving on to 4.2 uh um and that goes to miss margie anderson or megan jen that's gonna say i'm not margie but that's okay i will be today um are you gonna put ours up or uh this is it there we go i'll make it a little bit larger no it's okay i was looking at the middle thinking they were all elementaries i'm sorry okay so this is two high schools and um two four
038six seven elementaries um we we looked at foothill knowing that it is a centralized location within the city and it's it's got the large capacity and we were looking at the smaller schools um dalton powell and we put lee because lee is right there and we thought that we could make foothill into a steam school and just as we said in the first model if you literally picked up powell and picked up dalton and picked up lee and you moved them over with all of their programs intact it's going to become a steam school and then you have eliminated school that has not been modernized and two of the smaller schools that have smaller capacities and you've created a much larger elementary but but calling it the steam school or even a magnet school to
039you know even further attract other kids wanting to come and with dalton you know while some parents may not want to travel to foothill there is capacity and availability at hodge and also if there are parents at powell that didn't want to move over to foothill there is capacity at magnolia and then lee is right next door so um our thinking was proximity but it was also about trying to keep these programs intact and our district has invested an inordinate amount of money in the vapa the arts programs at powell as well as all of the stem stuff at dalton and so creating one school that is steam and combining those opportunities in such a huge campus and environment could really help them to thrive and so that was our thinking as to the elementaries
040that we chose combining them and putting them all intact on the foothill campus jen or margie or edna did you have something to add that i forgot i'd like to add a couple of things also thank you meg and you really explained it quite well but the uh the placement of the the steam school at foothill is advantageous for the community in lots of ways and one of them is that um they both rely heavily on support and and um and and learning with apu and foothill is very close to apu there's a lot of uh like for instance at powell powell uses their their ceramics labs and and every year apu comes in and helps them put together an art show and they have a lot of relationships that are depend the programs there
041at the at the visual and performing arts school and also at dalton rely on those relationships and so it's good to be near apu so we can continue with that um because dalton lee and powell are very close to the glendora border and then you think about the other two schools ellington and um glendora high school all being on the borders of neighboring schools those five schools together that's that is that we really take a huge hit to our enrollment and we're a little worried about that but by putting it uh close to the three schools in the north that would make it possible to hold on to more kids which also allows us to um keep our teachers especially our young ones as the older teachers start to retire so um i think that
042that's it i think that meg covered everything else pretty well thank you meg all right thank you thank you margie aka meg uh moving on to our third model four we're gonna call and bring back mr antonio flores um arturo that wasn't my model this was not your model no i don't know i only had 3.4 you only had model three uh yes i only did uh changes to to model three but not four okay all right while i figure that one out i'm going to call then uh to this model for here i'm going to call miss diana ochoa good evening everybody so um i am um i collaborated with our team csca and also with yvette valdez um i too work um with the district so my uh reasonings for the these uh
043schools are because one of location i want to make sure our community doesn't have holes and enable our students to get to schools you know a lot of our families walk so i want to make sure that you know there there's no holes in our community where you know a family has to go clear across town just to get their kids to school also too as yvette mentioned i'm going to piggyback on her because with her collaboration on all this um and talking as a parent too i am a parent here employee um transfers are a big you know a big hit and if we don't keep ellington and gladstone on there we're might as well give a bow to covina and glendora and say here you go take our kids um that's gonna be
044a huge hit and we see it all the time we deal with it every day um and it just you know it it's really hard for us to see those transfers go and then um you know we as as as the secretaries and the records technician clerks that you know have no say in um so again i brought back dalton because of the area just like i know some other people had mentioned um keeping you know hodge up there and dalton in that vicinity uh bringing back ellington because ellington you know all our kids are gonna be are gonna go to las palmas they're gonna go to covina um and we see that already happening so um and then um i brought back pal because then we have our neighboring you know district glendora and
045they've taken enough of our kids so we want to try to keep as many as we can um the only one that i did have a little change um uh different from events uh was paramount um i was kind of seeing the location and more of um the borders of it where it's at because i know we don't have mountain view no more we have it's too heavy on that area we have ellington valley dale and paramount right now that's that's a lot um so by taking valley dale out you know we still have mounts uh paramount there um but the main thing is is trying to make sure these this is you know equipped for our families we're here to serve our students i didn't focus too much on the capacity because i know
046we can make things work we've done in the past um and i didn't focus too much on the programs because i know that's going to be our discussion later on down the line and hoping to keep all that together and then i kept the two high schools because for me that's history and um you know having the two high schools we don't want to lose all those kids to to northview because we will or charter oak it will happen um so and then the history behind it a lot of us have been you know born raised in azusa gone to schools in azusa so there's a lot of history and pride in in those high schools so this is why i chose model 4 to keep those schools and to keep our high schools um
047and that should be it thank you thank you mr john um miss fish was this yours yes it was i figured it out all right i had a panic moment there sorry mr flores for put you on the spot unnecessarily so miss fish awesome walk us through your model form no problem um my only change was again for location reasons keeping two schools north of foothill keeping one school in the middle and then we'd have the three schools south of foothill dalton and hodge um i mean that that's honestly really all it was was just it was just moving the schools um i feel like there's a heavy um there was a heavy presence of schools uh south of the 210 and not north of the 210 so it was just an adjustment awesome thank
048you okay because this is live tv and this is happening live and there is no script uh we're we're building it as we go um first i want to reiterate what our next steps are um and then i want to propose something brand new since it's 617. so now you have heard six different iterations of what model three can be and you have heard four different iterations of what model 4 can be just tonight in tonight's presentations right we heard we heard someone say i wish i would have thought of that so right now what our next steps are is between now and sunday night you have the sheets i sent them to you if you are an author of one of these ideas or you are not an author of one of these ideas
049you can now think oh my gosh i i have an idea that i need to think about i want to put this idea forward or you're an author and you said ah if i would have thought of that i would have done that so you're going to change what you originally submitted to me and we saw tonight right so uh you are you are dr seuss you wrote the cat in the hat you today you saw something different and you want to change that that is perfectly okay but we're asking you to do that by sunday night miss fish can i ask a clarifying question on the models you said we're not supposed to change them right but i noticed that some of the schools have seven schools and for the elementary or tk six
050through tk instead of six um our model three is five tk sixes and one tk8 so are we okay with adding that additional school in yes okay yeah thank you for that question and let me let me let me pause then and reiterate what the models are model four are tk sixes and seven twelves um the amount of tk sixes um can vary depending on what today i think you saw some that went less and some that went more um and i think that's gonna be okay uh for model three the model is tk sixes you must have one tk8 you must have one middle school and and then the one high school uh but thank you for that clarifying question um so that'll be our next step a next step is to go back
051to the drawing board if you want to if you don't want to and you're satisfied and you like what you heard not not an issue not a problem you're not expected to send me an email or to send me an idea uh that's only if if you find it in you to do that and if you're an author and you like your idea and this is the way you want to keep it perfect no issues and no problems whatsoever from gabriel question from gabriel mr fernandez yes wondering about uh the different types of facilities that the schools are on like as we consider refining from six to one or two however we're going to go through the model 3 and model 4 next week um which sites have gyms which sites have enhanced facilities so
052to speak beyond modernization so another thing for me as a relative newcomer to the district to understand what our capacity is a different way yeah thank you for that mr fernandez and uh definitely i mean that's something that will definitely you're not you're you're not the first person to to to say that that might be helpful and so we'll think about when we send this email to you all in terms of next steps uh what what other pieces of information we might we might add to to help and assist um okay so with that being said and we do have a little bit of time here's what we're going to do we are going to allow people of this team to unmute themselves if they have a clarifying question clarifying question clarifying question means that
053the person can either answer it with a yes or no or a simple response we're not going to do any probing questions because probing questions would be uh now you're getting to you're getting to to um wonder kind of push their thinking in in a way that um might be judgmental so hey that was you know [Music] like why did you do that don't you know that blah blah blah blah blah that would be probing a clarifying question is hey you said that x y z can you help me understand one more time or i wasn't sure what you meant by by this perfectly we we we're we're striving to understand and know so we'll open up for clarifying questions once that fizzles out then we will conclude our meeting and we'll begin our process
054of getting your input by next sunday night so once again if you have a question which model is it and then you may ask the clarifying question meg did you have a question before the questions i do can you take this screen down so we can see everybody because this is a particular model and then i do have a clarifying question but i can wait to go talk to somebody okay let me i have a clarifying question too i'm not sure i know how to ask now that i've seen so many are we able to like look at menus one of their menus uh models one at a time and then ask questions while we can kind of see it i'm i'm fine with that so we would leave this up you're saying and let's
055start with this one like for instance start with this one anybody clarifying questions with this and then move to the next one is that what you're suggesting jen yeah or maybe just you know if we can have it so that we can pin it and look at it and then unpin when we want to but does that work on i don't know if that works on zoom but um yeah i i just feel like i may have clarifying questions between so many models i can't remember which one is which so i don't know if anybody else feels that way but when you so are you going to send them as model 3.1 model 3.2 you are okay and then the next process question or clarifying question i have it relates to what mrs fish said
056and um because i want to make sure i understand we we were making the our decisions as to the recommendations we were under the impression because we were unders we understood that it was a fixed a fixed number in the sense that okay you're gonna have one high school and um two middle schools and six elementaries right one two one tka and and five uh tk6 but you're saying then that we can have more than five tk six that's what you're saying now right that's changing we're not trying to limit is that what you're saying yeah my my and again i apologize that this is my misunderstanding but my my my understanding was that the model is tk six one middle school one tka and one high school um and i apologize i i was
057not caught up on how many tk sixes um the only numbers that i got caught up on that we decided as a group was for sure one high school for sure one middle school for sure one tk8 and then the tk sixes would vary uh so for instance right now on the screen um you have you have you know you some of them have different iterations like this one right here right so so so yeah um i i would say so again unless the team disagrees i i would say that yes because the reason it was five is because that was our initial like that was the district's proposal right and the way we proposed like oh it works out with five um but but now there's new information there's new ideas and so so
058yes okay so then the next piece of my question is as we're going back and doing this because as we were also formulating our ideas we're trying to keep capacity in mind and it's it's very clear that some of these have different capacity levels much lower much higher whatever and so is there a directive about what we're looking at for the capacity versus just saying the higher the capacity the better you know overall i mean match to enrollment versus capacity can you give us some direction on that one because i thought that we had an understanding and maybe we don't yeah and so first i want to point out like what i think meg is saying so if you look here and i don't know again off the top of my head who's these are
059but if you look here on this model 3.1 for e you will notice that this model at the at the tk 6 and tk level this model puts us our capacities at 95 percent if i go to just to pick a this one right here this model drops the capacity down to 67 percent so to answer your question meg is there like a hard-nosed number they have to be above 90 they have to be above 80 uh no but we have been saying that we are trying to maximize our our capacity in terms of facilities and in terms of programs and i believe um that the reason that we are doing that is because we don't want to find ourselves after going through this entire process two three years down the line and saying uh-oh
060we're back down to 200 school you know school with 200 kids or three and now we got to come back and so i think the board's vision was let's let's have this big plan that's gonna carry us through uh through a through a through a lengthy amount of time so that we're not having to come back to to to restart this conversation let this amazing team right figure out a way that uh that they can do that so so yes no no magic number but definitely the the objective here was to maximize our capacity and maximize our programs thank you for that question and can i ask one more question i know that gabriel asks questions about facilities um i i also think it would be helpful if we had what the actual number of
061ada is in these sites and let me tell you why okay so hypothetically speaking i heard some great comments from different um members of the of the committee saying that well i chose this school because we wanted to have it in the north and we don't want you know these kids to go here or or in the south and we don't want these kids to go there i'd like to look at it and see okay i i get that i know what the capacity of hajj is it's 753 students well if they have 500 kids and dalton has 200 could it absorb dalton i want to know where if you could you could you can't you can't you know and so that helps to make decisions too in the sense of what realistically could could
062be done or i heard two different iterations of using foothill because it's so massive to do something well how many schools could you fit in the foothill i mean or for example center you know um half of anthony's iteration um involves having a tk8 somewhere else well then center absolutely could have the capacity to house all the middle school kits so it's like but we need we need to know the actual enrollment so could we have those numbers or is that too hard no definitely not too hard again let us think about in my head right now swirling uh is like a data package um again we will make sure that that is public when we meet on on wednesday but maybe like a data package like a like uh again some kind of synopsis
063that might assist in your dreaming and your ideation and your and your vision okay i'm going to go with jen's suggestion i think it's a good one so i'm going to leave you still have two hand raised miss patricia and diana i'm so sorry miss patricia i i can't see the thing so thank you for helping me latasha uh ms patricia sanchez good evening everyone um i just want clarification don't ask me which model is honestly uh there's so many but uh so is this a question for for someone who authored one of the yeah we're gonna get to that right now we're gonna go through them okay when you see it you can get to that so thank you okay mr no question okay was it somebody else latasha who had their hands raised
064it's diana oh miss rojo was that other diana um i have a question regarding the just the clarification regarding capacity numbers um and and i could wait until we go to the models if you want if it's a if it's a if it's a question to a person that that mentioned a model it's a question about what they did then yes you can wait till we get to that model no it's not it's just overall then go for it yeah all right so i i would just like clarification on um not the process because i understand the process of how you determined um the capacity for each school based on you had to mention going to each school site deducting the six classes um i know you sent an email to us regarding uh recalculation
065of dalton um because you found an error but i'm wondering within the capacity of each i guess classroom what was that based on was it based on a total of 35 students per class was that half of them were 26 another were 35 like how did you come up with that number that we see right there on the chart of latasha yes take the first stab at it thank you thank you girlfriend so here we go so to get the capacity like we said we had an outside company what they do is they take the number of classrooms available divided by the number of grace bands i'm going to use dalton because i have it in my head dalton has 20 classrooms available they have a grant grade spans you take divided by 8 you
066get the 2.5 that tells you how many classrooms you can allocate to each grade then you take the district's class size for that grade so we have is it 24 you guys 24 for tk don't kill me what's the number 26 thank you you take 26 times 2.5 you get the 65 and you do that for each grade span and that total you add all together that's how you get the capacity at a school when you subtract in a classroom you take the average class size which is 33. because you don't know what grade span you're subtracting so you take the number of classes that you're trying to subtract times 33 and then that's what you subtract from the first number you calculated latasha can i clarify about that then so that 20 classes at
067dalton is that after the six that are being saved no dots after the six that are being saved dalton actually has 17 classrooms but to start what we did is we went from the 20 that was available from decision insight use their capacity we subtracted so in dalton case three was already subtracted so i only have to subtract three more classes which is where we found the error we subtracted six classes and they already had three i mean three taken out from decision insight so we realized we really were short and dalton three additional classes and it wasn't just dalton we did it across the board so that's why you noticed everyone's capacity changed it wasn't just one school site and so what we did is we said okay if decision insight already took away
068three our goal was to get six we took away three more and that's how you get dalton's new capacity and that's the same for everybody okay thank you you're welcome for that you're welcome all right awesome so in the in the few minutes that we have we're going to start with three i i can't figure out how to raise my hand but can i just it's not a clarifying question no i just want to thank i just want to thank those that brought up ellington i had a lot of parents come to me very concerned just about they were asking me if i knew the history of ellington and i was like i've been at ellington forever just to reiterate ellington was created as a k-8 simply because we were losing a huge number of
069ellington students to los palmas the parents didn't feel comfortable having their students walk to center versus walking to las palmas so it was created to help keep those students in our district and we've kept quite a few of those students in our district gratefully because we were able to have the k-8 so just throwing that out there just is a a good panelist a good member of the committee thank you all right here's thank you here's a 3.1 does anybody have any clarifying questions for this author edna has her hand raised but edna is it for this model oh nevermind she took it down sorry okay really quick i cannot remember whose models are who so it's fish yeah okay thank you because thanks thank you i'll all thank you i'll say it i'll say
070it when we get to to those so thank you any questions for mrs fish on this model again this is an understanding this is not i like or i dislike i have a question yes ma'am so mrs fish um your um your reasoning as i recall for this model is you were thinking about proximity of one's from one school side to the next so it was kind of um equally distributed around the district is that right correct okay thank you all right i'm gonna move to the next one this is also mrs fish and mrs wilson perkins any questions clarifying questions on this one okay uh this next i'm sorry i do mrs victor mrs perkins i have a question um and this is um looking at your tk8 at center middle school and this
071is where it would help knowing um the actual like ada of the sites um i i i'm looking that murray here is is you know being suggested to take off and you know how close that proximity is from marina center and murray's capacity is almost the same as center so if murray became the tk8 i'm wanting to know why you chose center to be the tka instead of murray for example absolutely so i i think although murray could absorb magnolia students that if if center was chosen and it was an in between location that a magnolia would have less distance to travel and b personally from what i've heard about the tk in the district we haven't done it to the standard that we need to to offer that to parents um instead of middle
072school there needs to be maybe instead of the wheel like everyone sort of talked about like a magnet something um that gets those um six seventh graders um more um more facilities more opportunities so although murray could absolutely accommodate it this this was purely out of not knowing the difference between those two locations and thinking that a middle school may offer a bigger cafeteria a bigger campus in order to make a really exciting tk8 preferably with a pathway or magnet for our district thank you all right um moving on to i've lost my script guys so i apologize 3.3 um i don't remember up to my head who this was mr contreras okay mr contreras any questions around thank you any questions around uh 3.3 okay moving on to 3.4 this is mr antonio flores
073any questions for mr flores i have one for mr flores um go for it i i'm i'm understanding um why you um put the tk through eight at foothill that makes sense to me i can't see you mr flores either so i don't know if you're talking i'm here oh yay okay um but why i understand dalton and powell i i get it but i don't understand ellington what was your thinking of choosing ellington to take off the list versus another school that could have been closer by even if it was like magnolia or lee or something that was in closer proximity what was your thinking that valley dale could absorb them or i mean what was it that you was kind of your reasoning sorry um i mean it could be that valley dale
074could absorb the students but again you know i i'm not uh completely attached to the schools here i mean if we wanted to switch out ellington with foothill if that worked out that would be fine with that as well but that was just my my thinking of putting foothill there and then adding slauson as the other middle school can i also ask you two um um why you would have a beast lawson instead of center and i and the reason i'm asking and i'm not trying to be it's not loaded and i say i love your i love your plan here it's great it's so but modernized versus not modernized what was your thinking capacity or so i was actually thinking azusa as the center line so we would have a tk8 option on the
075east side of azusa and then slauson being on the west side of azusa of you know zeus avenue so you had an option of uh you know tk8 on the east and slauson um on the west are you left-handed everybody else thought south and you thought east and west i'm a lefty too so that's that's what it is yeah east and west there you go okay thank you very much okay moving on to 3.5 this is any questions around 3.5 do we know who presented this one i'm sorry yes this these questions would be from meg okay so i have one meg um in regard to it you had mentioned about uh dalton being relocated over to hodge a question uh for clarification um at the size that hodge is at and the capacity of
076their auditorium and everything else that's there how do you imagine the fulfilling that capacity with dalton students i i don't um and so let me clarify it is our it would be our intention that dalton would literally get lifted up and programs go with it and be put with foothill along with powell and lee to create the steam school magnet school to keep the programs and the people the teachers that have been trained intact so that kids that started their younger can continue along the progression of their stem learning all that kind of stuff what my comment was is that if if there are kids whose parents don't want them to go down to foothill hodge actually has the capacity to absorb some of those students from dalton who would not want to go with
077the program mr vela yes i i believe that you were responding to your model four and the one that's up right now is the model three oh yeah cause i don't know how to read correct um either way actually i do believe that with your um ada that you have right now that hodge can't absorb most of those kids okay and then just the same numbers that's why i asked them specifically and then also a clarification is you talked about funding on remodeling um and i don't know if it would be you'd answer it or if it would be um the cabinet um funding is isn't that money already set aside through the um modernization funding that can be utilized for that so it wouldn't directly affect the district's main budget as a loss i
078guess you can say or a hit are you talking about like for example modernizing slauson instead of something else is that what you see because you already made a comment in regard to why remodel a school that we we could put in in another school that's already it is it you're right it is bond money but you have bond money that supposedly is slated to modernize all of lee modernize paramount modernize slauson and my comment was ultra dalton i thought that dalton had already been modernized no we're just in the same boat as the other schools you mentioned okay and so i didn't i didn't know that but honestly it doesn't affect what i was thinking anyway actually even better because then what you could do is instead of taking all that money and putting
079it into dalton take and make everything even better say it foothill that's already been modernized and has two computer labs and all of these other facilities and so just take what was slated for this and make it this even better like even the high schools you know all the things that we want to do and i know they're doing a great job with with how they're managing that money that's not the common i'm making it's just it's about choices thank you thank you so just to clarify uh meg because you did mention um a couple of times that lee is not a modernized school so that's why you had it as the on the list of closing even though it has a capacity of 606 um you do realize there are other schools on the
080other list to keep that are not modernized right i do i do just paramount correct on this particular list dale murray magnolia hodge and ellington have all been modernized so it's only paramount that we have kept on the list anyway that was just a piece of our thought process it was not the determining factor so i mean the only determining factor all right moving on to can i ask a clarifying question as well yes ma'am um when you guys looked at your schools i noticed that you only have one school north of the 210 and the all the other ones are south of the 210 did you put into consideration some of those students who may be kind of more in the center um but now they'd have to travel farther north to the to
081the only one school or south of the 210 to get to school you're muted i think the one school that would affect most is lee because um powell is is close to magnolia and dalton is close to hodge and so really lee is the one issue school where if you're not going to make say foothill into a mega school or something like that that isn't going to be an issue for lee proximity you're absolutely right yeah so all right moving on to [Music] number six and i apologize i did not again i lost my script here so if someone can help me out who this whose model this is mine can barely see okay kim so thank you so any questions for this model for miss c all right moving on to our first model
082four 4 this was miss valdez's model any questions clarifying questions for ms valdez was your your model based on the data you see as you process the transfer requests out of the district based on schools of origin for those transfer requests yes that was a big part of the reason why i chose the um these schools i actually gathered the data that was just recently submitted to the um to kevin and to the board from our office for the last five years and that's where i um so i took all the little charts for the last five years and i went through them and so that's the reason i chose those schools but between that um and also just mapping out like i don't know if you guys can see it but different schools from
083different districts that are surrounding our district and just mapped out where they were at that was another factor um and yeah just location uh where they were at how far away they were from uh other schools within our district but yeah transfers and location were the two big ones miss melissa's hand raised sorry mine was a similar question um i keep coming to this again and again the valley dale and ellington being so close um 0.6 miles um apart and valleydale being a bigger school a bigger capacity school and a larger enrollment school that it seems like people keep going back to the um keeping ellington at because it's um in covina and it keeps those covina kids i took that into consideration too um the reason why i just kept going back to ellington
084is just because if we can always add portables they did that for the the middle school portion of it and it worked out great um on that school so if we needed to increase the capacity and possibly portable or construction is available then the capacity wouldn't be so important then because we could put you know drop a couple portables in um the school sites that i need more um capacity and so that's why i kept going back to ellington versus valley dale okay moving on to the second model four this was uh meg savannah i hate to say this i just want clarification on modernization because i literally am i'm being text like bombarded um is just to make clarification on the modernization part that we spoke of early and it's kind of also been
085brought into this as well some of the language was brought up uh or about modernizing um what phases are we at at the schools that are on the list currently for modern that are in the middle of modernization um can we have some clarification on that yes so right now we have paused on any construction that has not started so that way we are not starting a project but until this process has been completed so everything that was in the works i think all of our projects that are there they're like 10 um we have projects like for dalton um paramount where we submit plan to dsa but there is no construction whatsoever taking place until we finish this process so but the phases themselves and i apologize my dog um like i know from
086our site we're on the last phase phase three uh do we have other schools that are at phase three are they at phase one or they have phase two because that also with the comments that meg had made you know i think we should let the public know also and also our committee know where we're at because if we do have a school that's just about done or school that's just the beginning it may also affect the committee yeah i'll i'll talk on on that one just a little bit um so to double down on what mr mall said right now um we took the approach to pause everything right now until we figured out what was happening with school reorganization number two uh in terms of the phases um those phases were based on
087the assumption that we had all these schools right so you have a set amount of money and you say okay based on this money and based on the number of schools that we have this is what we're going to be able to do right roofs underground classrooms right that kind of like that that mentality that we've been in uh which still might might hold true so we can definitely go back backwards and say this is where all the schools are at but moving forward we cannot because again the trajectory and what can be done with the remaining funds that we have uh can be altered severely uh based on the model that we land on and the number of schools that we land on so we can definitely go backwards and say okay this is
088what has been done but but but moving forward um we we cannot because moving forward would still be under the old assumption that we have all of these schools and this and we're going to continue with the plans that we currently have make sense okay awesome all right moving on to 4.3 i have a quick clarifying question for meg's plan what schools was it that she talked about picking up and moving to foothill i can't remember you're a mute make but i can answer that for you because i wrote it down you go right ahead friend because i was right about to break the rule and have to pay a dollar in the jar so go ahead i think you said that uh it would be picking up lee dalton and powell yes and then
089that because dalton is um stem this is on stem paulo's emphasis on the arts uh that foothill then would become a steam school and all of those right and lee is right there which solves that problem that diana was right about in the other model whereby you know they don't they are in the center of the city and so for them to be you know pushed to four corners of the wind is very far for those families to travel that is very accurate miss wilson so we had the stem program paul had the arts program and what was what was dalton's dalton is the stem program system okay all right perfect thank you um so i mean i um i mean i'm a little bit biased as a hodge parent thinking you know dalton's going
090to close we're the only two schools up here we i just did the numbers we can only absorb half of their um projected enrollment for the following school year so at least half of the school would have to select to go somewhere else we also have their projected enrollment numbers we only have their the uh we do on the slides that we got at the beginning of the process okay um so there the projected is um um three 329 for dalton 585 for the 2022-2023 school year for hodge um leaving us at 915 hodges capacity although it feels very full already um the capacity apparently is 753 um so we could maybe take half of dalton um i'm also nervous that that up um that this area is also there there's a growing number of
091homes and um that it's a growing neighborhood and that if we close say dalton that that there would be families who maybe not use our school district who are maybe moving into rosedale and things because um there would be thinking because the investment that the district has made into the programs in dalton is really that those kids are going to go they're going to pick them up and go put them on foothill i think that the teachers are very invested um after having been trained in all of the stem activities i think the parents are invested and so i don't i would be very surprised if this is my opinion and i taught at hodge so and i love the school and i i believe me but i just think that um it wouldn't be
092absorbing the entire school i think and i agree i think um dalton is a destination school with its program that that families come to use it and i um i hadn't thought of moving the entire program i just knew that um you know dispersing it at all would be very disruptive to the program but i do like what what you guys are putting together with that the entire program moves i'm just nervous about um in moving so far south all right we have a couple more minutes i think we can pull this off questions for miss fish moving on to 4.4 questions for mrs ochoa can i ask another clarifying question just in general because i'm not familiar with ellington but listening to what miss jones said about um ellington being a school that we
093lose kids we were losing kids to covina so ellington was created to help with that loss of kids she mentioned that they go to a different school is that school a middle school that that you said that they're going for so it's the seventh and eighth graders at ellington that we're losing seventh and eighth graders okay so sixth seventh and eighth graders so kind of in my head what i'm thinking is having that tk8 there is what's keeping them there so changing that into an ek 6 which is what's proposed in a lot of these models doesn't really solve that issue actually there's more right next to las palmas so right next to las palmas there's another elementary school so it's not only middle school it's also elementary because literally there's i think there's a
094there's lark allen there's art gallon there's grove center there's yes oh here it is there's lark gallon las palmas grove the lark island's closed i was going to say i think they're going is closed yeah it's close oh yeah manzanita is right behind it so yeah lark ellen is the one i had it crossed off that one's the one that's closed but we have grove center too and manzanita's right next next to it yeah all right ladies and gentlemen you did it um number one again if we can just have a quick silent applause for all of our authors tonight what they did takes time uh takes brain power uh to put your ideas out there and so we are super appreciative how lucky we are to have 10 different models 6 for model 3
095and 6 for model 4 to to wrestle with to digest to chew on to ponder to think to wonder to imagine to dream and so we thank all of you who took the time to really think about this you will get an email from me saying um here's what it is everyone has these models already i emailed them to you um again if you are an author of one of these 10 ideas today you have the ability to say oops i changed my mind um i after listening tonight i want to edit my my model perfect it's your model you can edit it if after tonight you say hey after listening to everything i want to pull my model again you authored it that is your choice and your decision or if you authored something
096today and said i'm good i like what i what we came up what i came up with what we came up with and it's going to move forward that way great and then lastly if you did not author something but tonight you feel inspired or you see something and you want to throw a model out there you are also allowed to do that again i want to reiterate it will be in the email this time there is a deadline and that deadline is sunday night uh that is not to add pressure that is just to add transparency to this team so you uh more quickly ahead of time uh you get to see uh what your teammates are doing so again thank you so much we know this is not easy but we appreciate what
097you do have a wonderful evening and we will see you if not sooner next week have a good night everyone thank you