001hmm uh good afternoon everyone welcome to our school reorganization uh team um meeting um want to welcome everyone back it feels like we haven't been together for a long time and so i am grateful that you are here today uh with [Music] um [Music] just wanted to just for uh for clarity and transparency i do want you to know that uh you know i have been sending out the emails about hey you know welcome or friendly reminder we're gonna meet again we're gonna meet again and i don't know if you had noticed on there um that i had put in there like hey if for whatever reason you can no longer be in this team uh please let me know uh so i do want you to know that we did have two parents that
002reached out and said that they can no longer participate in this um luckily um we're not we're not super smart all the time but luckily we did have the forethought to to have uh alternates for both our elementary uh parents and our secondary parents and we happened to have one from each level and so we reached out to the alternates that were next on the list and they both agreed uh to to be on and so just wanted to let you know just in case you saw some new faces and some new names uh we do have two parents that are joining us uh who are filling in for two parents that said that they are no longer uh they can no longer participate in today's in in this process anymore not just today but
003just any more period so just wanted to let you know about that um let me see here all right uh tonight uh we have um four objectives um give me one quick second we have some people saying that they can't get in um lika can you send can you send meg uh an email please yes thank you um okay so uh we have we have our objectives uh these are our four objectives for today we're going to recap our process that we have been going through so far we're going to revisit our purpose we're going to understand model 4 we're going to understand model three and then try to further define model three okay so if you look at our objectives uh there there are no uh choosing schools there are no this is what
004i like what i don't like uh tonight it's about understanding and get getting clarity about uh the two models that you all were able to influence um in uh in terms of which models we were we were looking at all right so let's start with uh we'll start with the recap um so way back last year not last school year but last calendar year we assembled this team of 12 parents and 12 staff members on the parents side we have six parents who have uh elementary students in our district we have six parents who have secondary students in our district on the staff side we have four members from our teachers union union we have four members from our classified union and we have four administrators uh this team assembled and started meeting in the
005month of november and so far believe it or not we have met a total of six times not counting tonight at the conclusion of our sixth meeting uh you all came together as a team and you made some recommendations for next steps those recommendations were shared with the board of education and subsequently the board of education agreed on the recommendations um that we put that you put forward really okay so let's look at what those recommendations were just again so we're all on the same page okay so recommendation number one is that was that we would that we would only focus on model three and model four and that we would discontinue model one and model two that was approved and that was uh accepted by the board of education uh for model 3 though
006uh there were quite a bit of butts right we've been calling them butts so well let's look at model 3 what would it look like for a tk5 what would it look like for a tk6 for model 3 what would it look like to have a tk what would it look like to not have a tka for model 3 what would it look like to have one middle school versus two middle schools and for model three what would it look like to have one high school uh versus two high schools for model four if you remember um we um we we could not we the we the district when we came with model 4 we came with model 4 as a 612 right this team recommended that the model be a 712 and so that's
007what we took to the board of education as a recommendation and again subsequently that is what was that is what was approved this team also said that for both models model 3 and model 4 that we wanted to reconsider the support staff that that we had taken to you all so let's reconsider that or let's rethink that or let's reimagine that um we also as a team you guys as a team um recommended that the timeline week remember we came with a five-year timeline uh it was recommended that that be accelerated um that there would be an accelerated timeline and the third one was considering should we implement in 2021 i'm sorry in 2021 2022 or should we wait one year and implement in 2023 so all of this went to the board of education
008and all of this was approved by the board of education okay all right so let's move on to our purpose so from the beginning uh we have been um telling you all that the purpose of this school reorganization process was to maximize our facilities and maximize our programs you have been this is not a strange uh slide for you you have been seeing this all along so you see that in 2002 2003 back in the day uh across our district we had 20 of our of our of our capacity open another way of saying that like if we flipped it around right another way of saying that is in 2003 we were using 80 of our facilities okay now in 2020 2021 which is the next column you will notice that we have 52 of
009our facilities open and available again uh another way of saying that is that right now in 2020 2021 we are only at 48 of our capacity in terms of our sites so less than half and then of course if you keep going down this this column uh due to um declining enrollment or projected declining enrollment you will see that those open seats continue to grow which means that the capacity and the use of our facilities continues to decline right continues to uh continue to to go down um i i want to just be super clear that this is not an azusa thing what you're seeing here in terms of declining enrollment is not an azusa thing this is a we are all in this valley going through this as well our neighboring districts in the
010valley um are also going through uh similar tough decisions and similar tough processes and they're doing that either right now or they have done it in the recent in the recent past and again we all live here in the valley we're all here and so we understand that this is going on there are districts right now in our right now our neighbors uh who have already made decisions uh to close down schools for the 20 uh 20 20 21 2022 school year so i just want to point out that this is not something that only azusa unified school district is going through um so as we start to get smaller and smaller and smaller in terms of our school sites then of course when we talk about maximizing our programs right that those those small
011numbers begin to affect programmatic things for example at the elementary schools we start to see a rise in combination classrooms the smaller you get the more you are forced uh to to do combination classrooms at our secondary schools um we have uh limited electives and limited uh choices uh we have to separate programs right from site to site to site and across the board large parts of our campuses are left uh empty and and unattended so that is why we are here right that that is why we have assembled this awesome team right to think about how we reorganize so that we can once again maximize the capacity of our facilities and maximize the capacity of our programs all right so now in the next slides we are going to be presenting model three and
012model four and now in our seventh meeting we are at a stage where we are starting to get more detailed right more into the weeds which means that when i hit next slide the model models are now going to include school names we want to preface this by saying that just like in the first phase of our work right we can point to it right you you have seen it with your own eyes you have witnessed this we are only bringing ideas forward that doesn't mean that they're the best ideas that doesn't mean that they are the final ideas that doesn't mean that those are the ideas are in cement and that doesn't mean that those are ideas are the ideas that we are trying to champion because none of that is true we're just
013bringing ideas forward and those ideas can be changed doesn't mean they have to be changed but they can be changed right you guys changed 6 to 12 to 7 12. you guys changed five years to three years right those things you guys got rid of model one and model two so we are we we we want you to understand that what you're about to see is not cemented these are just ideas and these ideas can be influenced and will be influenced by you so again just to reiterate what you're about to see in no way shape or form means a final answer right or a final decision or that's what the district wants it is none of that and again i hope that you have seen throughout this process that this is malleable it's flexible
014and and we're just trying to get the best ideas uh forward lastly i want to remind you about a couple of things those of you in this room you are human right you are a human being with feelings and thoughts and ideas that's number one number two this is not easy right this is not an easy task and you you signed up on the dotted line and you took the courage and you took it upon yourself and we applaud you for that so when we unveil the models with school names it is normal to have a reaction right it's normal to have a reaction maybe there's a school listed that you work at maybe there's a school listed where your kids go to school maybe there's even a school listed where you went to school
015and so it is natural right to have reactions so we're going to give we're going to allow some space to to let let that reaction happen um and that reaction will vary from person to person maybe some for some of you it'll be a reaction of sadness maybe for some of you it'll be reaction of happiness maybe it's anger maybe it's fear um maybe it's defense um and again i just we we just want to acknowledge that we're all human and that again a reaction is normal we have appreciated this team's ability to remain as objective as possible as we move into as we have moved in through phase one and as we move into phase two um i know it's i know sometimes it's hard but the more we try to reach objectivity i
016think the better at the end when the recommendations come from this team the better those recommendations are lastly before we move on i want you to know that we are starting with model 4 for the only reason that it is the model that that you all have not connected all these butts to so model 4 is cut and dry it's a 712 model unlike model three where it's like k five k six one middle school two middle schools one high school two high schools tka no tka that one we're gonna have to spend a little bit more time on and so that is why we are starting with model four all right let's move on i'm going to give you some time just to to look at this and then i will start talking in
017a second okay so what what we're trying to do right now is understand model four we're not trying to decide which schools are best which schools are not best there will be time for that i promise you we will there will be time for that right now all we're trying to do is understand model four okay so we want to point out a couple of things first all right number one if you look on the right hand side of this the one with the yellow uh the yellow bar on top uh the first thing that you're going to notice at is that this is no longer a five-year plan this has been condensed down to a three-year plan so again right awesome to this team yay to this team thank you to this team your
018input and your insights that's already a decision that has been made and the board has accepted that recommendation that we're not going to take five years to do that so you will notice that now this has been narrowed to a three-year transition you're also going to notice in that same section with the yellow bar at the top you're going to notice that the first year is 2122 then it's 22 23 then it's 23 24. i want to remind our team that one of the buts in this room was to consider instead of starting in 2122 should we wait till 22 23 okay that is still something that we need to decide as a team so just because it says 2122 doesn't mean that that's when we are going to begin this process okay this team
019ultimately might decide to wait until 22 23 to begin then in that case it would be 2223 2324 2425 but i want to point out that just because it says 2122 that does not mean that we are beginning in that school year which is next school year you will also notice on the bottom left hand side of of your of your screen right now where you see azusa high school and gladstone high school you will see that they are 7 12s because this is model 4. model 4 is the 712 model and that was that is what was recommended uh by the group so it is no longer a 612 as we had originally brought forward to you all and then lastly we want to point out where you see the elementary schools you will
020see that that they are tk sixes right uh because the other ones are 712s and you will notice that there is a number next to those school sites so 654 507 566 801 um that is what we are what we are projecting or communicating is the capacity of of those sites we want you to know that currently that capacity includes six non-classroom rooms okay let me tell you what those six non-classroom rooms would be and so these six rooms are rooms that could be classrooms but we have decided not to make them classrooms so here's here's what they are two of those six classrooms would be designated for preschool this model right here as you can see on this page right now brings down the number of elementary schools and so as we continue to
021grow our preschool program uh we are we are projecting that we would need two rooms for for four sections of preschool so that's two of the six one room is for a library one room is for the innovation room or the innovation lab and two rooms are tbd to be determined those two rooms can be depending on the school site depending on the program can be things like a parent room a room for sped a room for visual and performing arts um again there's a professional development room i mean just two rooms that we know will be needed in some way form or fashion all right so now that we kind of explained some of the things in this model let's explain the actual model and how it came to be all right so the
022first no-brainer was azusa high school in glasgow high school this is the 7 12 model after all so there wasn't much creativity or thinking to have to have to be done there so we took azusa high school we took glaston high school uh when you put those two schools together uh their total capacity is three thousand seven hundred and sixty eight uh projected enrollment for next school year is third is three thousand one hundred ten uh so those schools uh together combined would be at 82.54 capacity if we were to begin in full blown next school year that is still to be determined you will notice that in the next subsequent years as as enrollment continues to decline in 2324 we are um projecting that that the two high schools uh the 712 schools uh
023would be down to 77.79 percent uh in their capacity right so that was the no-brainer that's the easy part of this model okay by doing that if i move up you will notice that for next school year we need to house 3 700 tk6 students right so that was the next task all right well now that we're done with the with the 7 12s that was the easy part what are we left with well we're left with three thousand seven hundred and sixty four students uh to house uh what we did or the approach that you see here in this uh on your screen is um the approach was to take the largest capacity elementary sites until we were able to house 3764 students right so starting with murray check then moving on to hodge
024check paramount check until we hit that 3764 and so you will see here that by including hodge lee magnolia murray paramount and valley dale that gives us a capacity of 3807. which is now enough to house the 3764 students again you will notice that if this were to begin next year um even though it's a phase-in but the total capacity would be at 98.87 uh then it goes down to 97.58 then it goes down to 97.16 and we continue down the years as we continue to project declining enrollment in yellow you'll see um the three elementary sites that in this model right here model for the way that we are bringing forward as an idea that would those three schools would be eventually phased out in this model as would the three middle schools center
025slauson and foothill so on the left hand side is how this was built on the right hand side then is okay now that we built it what does it look like to happen over the course of three years so for dalton ellington and powell that means that next school year if this were be to begin next school year if not the following year uh they would just not take any new enrollment so they wouldn't lose kids per se in the first year they're just not taking new enrollment so they become grades one through six schools ellington becomes a grade one through eight school the subsequent year though not only are they not taking new enrollment we would also have to transfer out or transition out um students who would have become first and second graders
026and so then those schools would remain third grade up the following year we would transition third and fourth grade students so those schools will remain five fifth grade up the following year these sites would not have any students on them anymore at the middle schools uh nothing would happen in year one in year two our seventh graders would not be on the sites and then unlike elementary schools in this plan right now in the third year the middle schools would now be closed at the bottom you see the the uh six elementary uh school sites um you'll see that they are unchanged they just be they just remain tk6 schools the only difference is all along these three years they will begin to get larger and larger every year because they'll start taking the kids
027or the students from dalton allington and powell at our 7 12s you will notice that nothing happens in year one in year two they welcome the seventh graders and in year three they become they become a full-blown seventh through twelfth grade school this is a lot of information packed into one in one slide so what we're going to do now is we're going to allow um if there are any we're going to allow some clarifying questions okay clarifying questions um so what we're what we are what we are uh um asking is that your questions be about understanding uh the model okay so um what we mean by that is you know you might ask a question like um uh can you can you go over once again uh how the capacity came up that's
028a that's a clarifying question that you want to get clarified so you can understand the model or can you help me understand again in 23 24 when it says third and fourth grade transition what does that mean that's a clarifying question you're trying to understand the model a not clarifying question or a non-clarifying question would be um why did you choose hodge over dalton that's not a clarifying question or can we please keep ellington open and move paramount to be closed that's not a clarifying question i promise you that we will get to that there will be space to have all all of those iterations and all those ideas but right now it's really just about clarifying questions if you were to have any if you do please unmute yourself and go ahead and ask
029your question question yes um the yellow highlight on the left of the screen that says dalton ellington and powell are those numbers that are next to the school their maximum capacity or is there that the number they have now good question thank you yes that is also their capacity so just like those schools on the top where you see 654 507 566 801 654 and uh thus that's their capacity uh their maximum capacity okay second question and this is not a can we swap this for that i'm using an example okay um so you said that at each of the schools the elementaries that are listed at the top hodgley magnolia et cetera that is going to include a four classrooms potentially a library a potential vapa class and then two tbd right okay awesome
030pardon me almost okay six classrooms because the two preschool classrooms and two preschool okay but two are tbd and so technically speaking it is possible that you could increase the capacity of those other schools by putting students in the tbd rooms right that is 100 true okay thank you for that clarification i appreciate that anyone else have a question a clarifying question [Music] okay so this objective uh so check check check so far um again this was the easy one in terms of understanding how it works um so now we're going to move on uh to model uh to model three wells gabriel has a question oh i'm so sorry do the enrollment projections include the influence of of uh what's occurred this last year in terms of enrollment um if you are alluding to
031uh the pandemic um i will let latasha answer that question so uh the enrollment projection is based off our normal trend so not anticipating us having an influx of students leaving because of the pandemic or coming back because of the pandemic thank you sir all right model 3 is a little bit more complicated than model 4 due to all of the butts that are attached to this model uh per uh your recommendations so in order to navigate model three properly um i am going to leave the google slide and i am going to move or transition to a google sheet so let me see if i can do that properly thumbs up if you see my sheet now my google sheet yes okay awesome do you still see my google sheet okay cool thank you
032all right so once again um just want to reiterate that nothing you see here is set in stone nothing you see here is cemented uh nothing you see here um is what um what what we are espousing to be the the best and the greatest that's why you are here to give input and to help us out through this process so what you see here is our tk5 model 3 and again it's going to get really complicated so i'm going to try to uncomplicate it as much as possible okay all right so just like model 4 at the top um at the top left hand here uh you will see that in this tk5 we need 3250 we need to house 302 3251 students so we needed 3 300 students i'm sorry we needed to
033house them again starting with the largest capacity elementary schools these five schools listed here were able to house the 3251 this is a phase so we know that this doesn't happen in year one but let's pretend that it did it would still be at 98.52 and slowly decreasing and as we go through the years the same thing in this tk5 model there is no way because remember now we're losing sixth graders so they got to go back to middle school there's no way that we can have one middle school as they currently are structured so because we have 3251 tk5 students that means we would have 1593 6 through 8 students and so we need to be able to house 1593. so here are again kind of following the same mentality our largest school is
034foot heel so that's 12 36 but if we if we're looking to house 1593 and foothill already can house although we could have chosen a slauson or a center the reason ellington was chosen was because it keeps us at this high 90 capacity of 97.97 the reason i want to go to google slides to show you um what what this means so let's pretend that instead we wanted this to be center us being the team that that created this by adding center there you'll notice that the capacity drops to 71.76 immediately right and so i wanted to explain to you why we are in this idea in this iteration think that ellington would be the second middle school a six eight boss the number didn't change for us you're not seeing this live right here
035center do you see me typing center no no i don't maybe it's just me i'm sorry nobody sees that uh i'm gonna type my name right here artudo do you see that no sir no oh it says your your screen is paused um why is my screen paused um lika do you know do i do you know why it's paused i did not know that was possible um resume share should i hit resume share yeah hit resume share do you see my sheet i do see your sheet okay so here 18 do you see me typing center now yes sir okay great so so so i'm sorry so here's center right if we put center here then that drops the capacity to 71.76 right from the bat and as declining enrollment continues um just in
036three years we're down to 65.99 or 66 percent so that is why as we were building this we we figured that ellington seemed like a better site it already houses uh six through eight currently um and if we're looking at capacity that seemed to be uh the best choice of course right and we're going to get to this i promise you plugging in any of these sites right would would also get us to a number like that again this is our first iteration our first idea of how we're doing that so tk5 to do a tk5 you must have either two middle schools or you're going to get rid of this ellington here and you're going to go to foothill and we're going to drop more modulars or more relocatables to increase their capacity so
037that they can house the 1593 capacity right but without doing all that construction right now arlington is what we are saying we're bringing we're bringing forth okay i'm gonna i'm gonna stay right now through eighth grade okay so now that this is built now that we built this then we said okay well what does it look like how does that work so again you will notice that three years nothing changes from the from the first model that we saw so one grades one and up year one three and up year two five and up year three year four elementaries um cease to exist the elementaries though year one nothing happens to them but year two they will not keep their their their fifth graders from year one because there will be no more sixth grade
038so that happens in year two center and slauson same thing as before year one nothing happens year two they have eighth graders by year three unlike elementary schools they are now closed these are the schools that remain open nothing happens year one year two and beyond they remain tk5 foothill year one nothing happens year two they welcome sixth graders and they become a six eight and they say a six eight ellington is the only one that has a lot of changes because year one they'll be one through eight year two they'll be three to eight year three they'll be five to eight and then year four you don't see it here they become a just a six eight middle school and then um that's that's kind of the way the way this one this one
039works i'm going to come back to the high schools but for right now again i want to pause for a quick second these are just clarifying questions to help you understand how this model 3 works for a tk5 okay now i'm going to shift to model 3 tk6 because i want i want i want you to have tk5 and tk6 in your head so here's uh tk6 so um with a tk6 that means that the middle school is a seven eight so we start with seven eight how many seventh and eighth graders do we have one thousand eighty all right what's the largest capacity site foothill they're at 1236 they can house the seventh and eighth graders so that's a that's an easy decision well if we have seventh and 8th graders here only that
040means that here up here in the elementary we have to house tk6 well that number is now 3764. so it's larger than it was in the tk5 model so in this model unlike tk5 lee we have to re-insert lee back into the mix right now and again we're gonna get to this in a few but right now with this model this tk6 only that dalton ellington and powell would be the schools that eventually would be phased out i do know and i do understand i'm going to talk about because one of the questions from this team was what does a model 3 look like with the tk8 what does it look like without a tk we're going to get that we're going to get to that in a second right now i just want you
041to understand tk5 versus tk6 and i want to point out that unless we are recommending construction in a tk5 model you will need two middle schools in a tk6 model you only need one middle school if this is about capacity which is what we have been talking about right of course of course in any of these models we can say keep all three middle schools but then we're moving away from our objective right so again this works the same um the only difference is that the schools that are phasing out here and the schools that are phasing in here have changed slightly i'm going to take a pause to see if you have questions about understanding model 3 only the tk6 only up to 8th grade component arturo i don't know if you can see
042me i can't see the bottom where the capacity numbers are for azusa high school and gladstone high school are you able to kind of scroll down a little bit so we can see that yes we're gonna get to that um when we move to the high school conversation okay um i i don't know if i if i'm taking a turn ahead of somebody you can tell me to stop and i'll wait um um none of these options has expressed a tk through eight option and i noticed um that that was one of the things that hadn't been entirely decided you know offering a tk8 in one of the models or not and so i'm wondering where that gets here or if i'm just not seeing it can you explain please yep um you're not seeing
043it because that is a conversation that will happen subsequently right now i just want to understand how a straightforward tk5 and a straightforward tk6 just just understand those models we still have to talk about tk no tk one middle school two middle schools one high school two high schools we will we will get to that right now just understanding how the model works right now and then then i'm going to ask you later okay do you understand with tka without tk8 then i'm going to say do you understand one middle school one high school damn is you know we're going to get to those conversations right now i just want you to understand how a straightforward tk5 tk6 model work without without these other variables okay so i'm sorry to ask you but with all
044of the information that you're sharing could you please just repeat that last piece then where you said if we have a tk through five model this is how many middle schools if it's tk's through six this can you just say that one more time please 100 100 thank you absolutely uh and you know what since since you since you brought up just for the for the purpose of the of the team and those that may be watching um so right now we are not talking about the other variables right now we're going to get to those variables middle schools high schools tk8s right now if we were just looking at this straightforward without those other variables a tk5 and tk6 so in a tk5 model which is what you're seeing right now you need two
045middle schools again to be super transparent well yes we could build on foothill and then you only need one right but that's a that's different but as things are right now you will need two middle schools if we were to go tk five and we weren't thinking about construction or anything like that but in a tk six model you only need one middle school because in this model foothill would be able to house the 1080 7th and 8th grade students okay may i ask a follow-up question then because it goes directly with with what you're saying about this um it was my understanding from what you said at the beginning of our meeting that the board had already i'm going to say approved certain um i'm going to say qualifications or or decisions that this
046group had made in order to move forward and one of those was not to have pk through fives but to have tk through sixes am i wrong about that piece okay can you clarify that because i um i thought that that part the way you said it meant that was a done deal so okay all right thank you i don't know okay thank you for the clarifying question yes um so as we were looking at our six meetings combined and uh the data sheets um on on one side meg i mean yes look it up here right up here if you look at column f um half of this team wanted or said they preferred a tk6 model and only 15 said they prefer a tk5 model but because this is only half and other
047things were like super resounding um we felt that we owed it to this team uh to to still bring this back and put a ribbon on it if you will um but but yes of the of the of the four buts that we are trying to think about today uh this one in terms of the data does seem like the one that that seems the most logical but again we don't want to assume um any of any of that uh right now but thank you for that terrifying question thank you for explaining that i appreciate it yeah any other questions in terms of understanding tk5 versus tk6 i have a question on the capacity for the middle schools um you're adjusting that uh to be six classes taken out as well however two of those
048classes would not be preschools so what would those additional two classes be good question um and i apologize for not um for not broaching that so no at the secondary schools uh it has been dropped to four schools i'm sorry to four classrooms instead of six at the um like the elementary at the middle schools and high schools that has been dropped uh to four any other questions regarding tk5 versus tk6 just understanding the model yeah do i have a question was that a tk 6 and tk5 option and then those percentage numbers was that is it related to model 4 or model 3 uh point me to to somewhere that where you say tk6 52 52.6 oh and then tk5 15.8 yes did we agree on those numbers based on model 4 or is
049that are those numbers based on model three those numbers are based on model three okay so the question was i like model three but i prefer it to be a tk6 or i like model 3 but i prefer it to be a tk5 and then the last one was i think i like model 3 and i can go either way and so that's why you don't see the 100 there any other questions regarding [Music] tk5 versus tk6 okay before we move on i want i want to give you a preview of next steps because this is where this becomes uh uber important tonight so far i know we're not completely done yet but you have seen piece one and piece two of the six pieces that we have been showing you so far so what
050did we show you uh we showed you the models that's piece one we showed you how it gets implemented that p that's piece two but what's missing is a support staff the programmatic um or potential programmatic benefits potential programmatic drawbacks and budgetary impact okay so that you don't see that yet model four again it's it's cut and dry i understand that we can still have lots of conversations about the school sites and we will have that but in terms of how the model works is cut and dry this one is not and so what we are hoping tonight is to try to land on a clearer model 3. should it be tk5 or tk6 should include a tk not a tk should have one middle school two high two two middle schools one high school
051two high schools even if we can even if we can knock out two of those things that makes the next steps much easier because if not then think about every iteration that we would have to work on for you all which we can if that's what the team wants but we would have to show you a tk5 with no tk8 one middle school and one high school then a tk5 with yes a tk8 one middle school one high school then a tk5 with yes tka two middle schools and one high school then a tk5 with yes a tka two middle schools and so it's a lot of different iterations and there would be a lot of work and a lot of time to try to do that and so without forcing the issue again we're
052hoping to gain some clarity um and if we can even again even if two of these things get decided tonight that would make the next steps again stronger clearer and we can bring you more detailed information to continue to make decisions so with that being said i'm going to be bold right now and just again nothing is in cement here these are just this is just a process knowing that originally more than half of you all already had expressed that a tk6 would be the favored model knowing that only 15 of you all adamantly said that you wanted a tk5 model and now understanding how these two models might look like i want to reiterate we're not talking about schools right now we're just talking about how it works i'm going to take a poll
053and and the poll is very simple do you feel you do you feel you are ready to say or make a determination whether model 3 should be tk5 or should it be tk6 one more time that does not mean the school sites i'm not asking you do you agree with the school sites you see on the screen it's just uh it's just are you ready you personally to decide if this should be a tk5 or a tk6 so lika if you can put up that poll um so you are going to say yes if you are ready you feel that you are ready to decide between a tk5 and a tk6 you're going to say no i am not ready to decide between a tk5 and a tk6 and lika because i'm showing my screen
054i don't see the poles or anything so you have to kind of fill me is in a poll going up i don't see a poll i think she's working on it okay [Music] lika you're with us i'm going to stop sharing my screen for a quick second let me see oh rico is frozen okay we're gonna give her a quick minute to see if um if she can unfreeze herself she's gonna jump out of the meeting really quick [Music] false if you verbally state the question i can launch the poll but i cannot change the question uh yeah the poll should just be yes or no okay uh are you ready for me yep so one more time everyone uh you are saying yes i am i am ready to to decide if model 3
055should be tk5 or tk6 you're gonna say no if um you are not ready to to give input on that and there's the poll it says hosts and tunnels can't vote i'm not able to vote it doesn't say i can vote and i think lika okay there you go try it now and i'm back but i see it now okay thank you it worked now i apologize i didn't hit panelists pay for effort still a couple more people we're still waiting on some again you are clicking yes if you are um ready to decide if model 3 should be tk5 or tk6 you're voting no if you are not ready to make that recommendation or decision looks like we should still have four more people to vote not counting us how many how many votes
056do you have 26 so far and miss michelle wasn't voting that 26 is more than we have team members you want to share this the statistics with us we may have an extra then yeah hang on a second can you see it uh let me know when you can see it it ended on my end can you see it now yes okay thank you all right so 85 of this group um is ready to move forward uh to recommend model 3 to be a tk5 or a tk6 um with i know that we have 15 uh that said they are not um so again just uh throwing that out there uh to the team with such a high number um of 85 percent um can we move forward to a second poll now and the
057second poll would be um can you type in questions like does the question have to be yes no or can you type in um uh choices um i can i think i can type in choices okay great uh so so so can we move forward then to do a poll to decide if model 3 should be a tk5 or a tk6 um unmute yourself if you are not in agreement with that okay lika uh you can start working on the poll uh once again everyone uh what you are voting on i'm gonna read and i know i sound like a broken broken record but remember you're not voting on the school sites we're not talking about that right now we're just talking about the tk6 model or the tk5 model um so um the choices
058will be tk6 that'll be choice one choice and the other choice will be tk5 it won't let me edit while the meeting's in progress so it has to be yes no well that's fine and dandy um okay that's fine we're gonna uh we're all flexible um so if you just say tk through five is a yes and tk through six is the no response like that's an answer okay i mean just an option thought that's easier yeah but in order to do that just give me one quick second uh does everyone see a blank piece of paper no yes yes okay all right oops okay we have to use our brains here uh because it sounds sounds opposite or it sounds a little off here but um i may have been able to figure it
059out tell me what appears on on the screen yay okay you did it you did it okay even better forget this piece of paper um all right so so again one more time uh just so we're on the same on the same page here um you are not voting on schools you're not deciding schools right now your vote is not going to um influence uh schools or or you know not nothing like that this is just the model and i promise you we will get to the other pieces okay so the question is do you prefer model 3 to be tk5 click on tk5 you prefer model 3 to be tk 6 click on tk6 sorry arthur why does it say no on tk6 i'm just a little confused still don't worry about that that's
060gone oh okay thank you can you say that again the question uh the question again yes thank you so you're going to click on tk5 if you believe that model 3 should should should be tk5 that should be the model you're going to click on tk6 if you believe that model 3 should be tk6 and once again this has nothing to do with the school sites that you saw that can all be influenced and changed okay we have 23 votes in so far i believe that's what it is i if i'm not mistaken i think we had one participant not here got it i will end this and share this okay uh well i would say that that is resounding so based on this we are going to move forward with no longer looking at
061tk5s in model 3. model 3 is still alive but now it'll only be tk6 okay so let me move on to the next phase thank you uh so much again to this team i'm going to reiterate what we said in the beginning um everyone in this room is a human and this is not easy and so i appreciate um the the decisions and your objectivity moving forward um with with this okay so now i'm going to reshare my screen i believe where is it up here and i'm going to do this one do you see my sheets once again yes okay all right so we are not no longer looking at model three uh we are now oops let me do one more thing there we go uh we are now looking at uh and
062i'm going to go ahead and just highlight this so we know that that is done um now we're just focusing on tk6 so we have a couple of other um pieces on the table that this team wondered about right we we have been calling them butts um and the next one that if we just if we just look at the data not saying one not making a judgment call we just look at the data the next one that seemed to be the closest to maybe a decision or not a decision um was if there should be a tk8 or not a tk8 but i am going to i believe um i'm looking at the clock uh it is 646 which means we only have 14 minutes left um so latasha i'm gonna put you on
063the spot here um i think i think it makes sense to go to should we do tk8 because then we have to do a lot of maneuvering or should we just do one middle school two middle schools um i think we should go one middle school two middle schools and then the tk8 will fall out meaning it will fall into place based on the decision to see the need on capacity okay and and if we run out of time we run out of time um and that's the justice the way it'll go um so all right this thing again i don't we don't want to make any assumptions right but originally when we did this you had we had 58 uh of this group uh saying that they only wanted one at one middle school
064we had 26.3 percent that said they wanted two middle schools that means that there were 58 percent of you that said you can go either way that's a lot of people that said they can go either way right almost 60 percent so let's go back to this real quick we already know we're going tk six done deal if we go tk six that means there are only 1080 projected seventh grade seventh and eighth graders next school year and that keeps dropping over time if we only have 1080 students to house next year thinking about our facilities foothill would be able to house those 1080. i have a clarifying question yes i'm sorry um and maybe i need to wait until after you talk about the options here but you know when we're deciding you know
065one middle school or two does that preclude us from saying the second middle school could be part of the k-8 because really like for example and this is just a hypothetical but if you're saying you need space for 1080 and and you think that okay you're gonna have atk through eight somewhere then a hundred kids from that 1080 are going to come off potentially and then and then the people who want a k-8 option could have that and you still could have that what was it 980 fitted either any of the three middle schools then does that make sense i just that's why i'm asking about the k-8 option because that affects the middle school number 1000 that makes sense yeah no it does it does make sense um and again i'm just worried about
066time we're down to 11 minutes so um why don't we do this why don't we do this um so to finish off h and i'll go back to what meg was alluding to in a second right if we just went straight tk sixes we're not worried about tkhs it right now for a quick second we have 1080 right um foothill can can grab those kids for that matter slauson can grab those kids center could not grab those kids that's this right here we were to introduce a tk8 into the mix then by default right we would have to add that school up here it actually doesn't have to be ellington but for right now let's call it ellington it could be any any other school but what we do know absent this name arlington right
067it could be any other of these other schools down here but what we do know is that currently our tka sits at 390. right capacity right if we do that the capacity goes to 89.68 then to meg's point this 1080 has to drop uh miss latasha do you know how many seventh and eighth graders um at ellington no sir and we and we wouldn't want to do that um because every person would have the option and so now we will be making a projection on unknown information so it would be better to just make the decision on if there's going to be two middle or one and if you're going to have a tk8 because you can see that if you add the tk8 which goes into the 4197 your capacity goes you're at 89
068and you slowly drop down to 88 and you can still have a middle but the question would be do we want one middle or two or do you want a tk8 because you know you have enough capacity without adding the tk8 could i say something real quick too yes uh when we did our last poll regarding having a tk5 or a tk6 i voted based off of the model that you showed where we would only have one middle school because it keeps an extra elementary school open if we change that and we're going to have two middle schools my vote for a tk6 would change to a tk5 i don't know if that affects anybody else but for me personally that made a difference in my vote my recommendation would be to vote on the
069number of middle schools and then we know adding the tk8 is just adding additional capacity but it's not even a 10 swing so let me let me say what latasha is saying right so latasha is saying that whether we keep one middle school or two middle schools the tk option is still on the table of course if you have two middle schools that are seven eight adding a tk8 is going to is going to drop the capacity of those two seven eight schools same same concept if it's only one middle school adding a tk8 is still an option it's still on the table we just know that it drops the capacity of the middle school and then looping back to meg's point if we get to that point and there is a tk8 and only
070one middle school since we know that this 1080 will drop do we want to at that point time again consider a different school and again those are conversations that that we will have let me say it one more time whether we have one middle school or two middle schools it does not stop us from still considering a tk8 we already know right now that if we add a second middle school here right whether that's slauson or center that this 87.38 is going to drop immensely but it doesn't stop us from still considering a tk8 after this decision whether it's two middle schools or one height or one middle school we can still consider the tk8 kind of going along with what amber with what amber said i agree with what she said i was kind
071of basing my vote because you threw in the middle schools when we were talking about the capacity of the elementary schools we do two tk through five we need two middle schools so i almost feel like we kind of voted on that already in the sense that you threw in the middle schools along with the tk-6 tk-5 so i think for clarity what we could do is do a quick poll if that's okay just to make sure we're all on the same page that we're agreeing are committing to one middle school or two middle school yeah i i agree with that um so but i'm just gonna say one more time and if you have a question please in the last couple of minutes here uh obviously we're not gonna get through everything tonight which
072is okay but what we are what we are hoping to do right now is say model three and the poll would say i want model three with one middle school i want model three with two middle schools knowing that that that does not affect should there be a tk8 or not that doesn't affect that we can either one of those could still work just knowing that right now one middle school houses all the seventh and eighth graders at 87 percent capacity is there a question about this poll i have a question yes ma'am um because if we're making all these decisions based on capacity you said the middle school capacity would drop but if we add a tk8 to the elementary mix then the capacity at those schools would also drop correct but again that
073that decision whether we're adding or not adding a tk8 doesn't is not affected by if we choose one or two middle schools no matter which one we choose the t the the tka can still be a factor but the tk8 eventually could also replace one of the other existing elementaries and so it's not going to automatically take from every other school it's going to depend on whatever the committee you know recommends is it's going to replace whichever one on on that list yeah yeah as an as an as an option as an option right no no none of this work we're gonna get to that in terms of schools and all that good stuff um right now it's just model three one middle school or two middle schools knowing that we still can talk we
074still have to talk about tk8 and we still have to talk about high schools but the but this this this decision doesn't stop us from the tka conversation and it doesn't stop us from the high school conversation any other anyone else have a question about that okay lika if you can put up the pole to pull it well look at you all right so once again all you're saying this is not schools this is not tk8 this is not high schools this is just we we want to see model 3 with one middle school we want to see model 3 with two middle schools so i have a couple more votes they're waiting on okay we have 20 votes so far still only 20. so we have a couple more people who need to vote
075okay we'll just give it a couple more seconds i'll let you know lika when okay go ahead and show us the results okay so 76 percent of this group is saying uh that we continue with model three um so so far model three is a tk six one middle school but we still need to talk about the tk8 component and we still have to talk about the high school component as advertised model 3 is uh way more complicated than model four again i cannot thank you enough for your brain power uh your ideas your questions and your willingness to be here uh tonight uh to be part of this uh we are we are at it again next week um we will we will move uh forward with continuing to add details um knowing that
076we still have a couple of things to consider but now that we have this maybe we can start uh having clear scenarios for you like model 3 with the tk8 model 3 without the tk8 and then the and then the the uh the high school conversation um so once again again just in such deep appreciation um for everything that you're doing i do want to take just a quick moment to thank our team latasha especially who has been putting a lot of work into this and then of course jorge and dana their term will come when we get to support staff and and program as well so thank you thank