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Surplus Property Committee, April 27, 2018

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2018-04-28
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Los Angeles County, CA
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10,533 words · about 59 min
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2026-06-05

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001could everyone rise please for the Flex loop put your right hand over your heart ready to Republic for which it stands one nation under God [Music] mr. Thompson mr. Rosales is absent and makes a fella okay at this time we will startled wind Denise rising and after Denise [Music] could you stop for a second we'll let you start again your microphone is not working hey thank you my name is Denise rising and I'm a teacher at Magnolia elementary school at our school we have an acronym wild WI LD inspire others lead by doing and develop solutions the children chant this often at our assemblies and even outside school it shows a sense of pride and a sense of community that we have the Magnolia family we are aware they will have their own traditions and

002values and yearly events that shape their culture this culture is binding to the communities surrounding it it is how we know when a family is in need and who to reach out to it is why we pull together in a time of crisis and we consider this a time of crisis shutting down an elementary school takes away a child's community sense of security and sense of belonging it sends a message in the community that is oosan' unify values money over children please think twice before closing down an elementary school because you cannot repurpose a child's second home which is their school you cannot repurpose the child's friends you cannot repurpose a child's caring teachers and you cannot repurpose a child sense of security please do what Magnolia does why make wise choices inspire others lead

003by doing and develops solutions schools are not interchangeable especially to a student's sense of well-being we must send a message to the community loud and clear that children come first please put our children first thank you hi my name is Angela and my topic that's our campus 28 years ago when I was looking for a job I did not know much about the city of Azusa and I got off the freeway at citris and headed south I saw magnolia and it was love at first sight I was enamored with the brick buildings that expansive bones the trees and the well-maintained community surrounding the school Magnolia is located on an entire block and it is a center of the community Magnolia is a property that has tremendous curb appeal and it acts as an amazing advertisement

004for the school district being on such a busy street oftentimes when I tell people from other cities where I work they are familiar with the site and comment on its beauty and the size in realistic location and curb appeal of our pyramid it would be a major deterrent to the district and the community to lose a gentleman like Magnolia Magnolia has also been modernized our classrooms the teachers lounge or workroom or office computer lab parking lot and library have all been remodeled or built new before we were going through this process the teachers were told to make a wish list wishlist and to dream it I teachers without our sight to work at the came back and pointed out to us that we actually got almost everything on our wish list more recently we added

005a sidewalk and on the front and a higher gate to increase safety first students let a desert landscape was also added to the front a community passed a bond to modernize Magnolia school with all these resources allotted to Magnolia school you would be a disservice to the taxpayers in our community who's our hard-earned dollars were invested in magnolia magnolia is the pride of our community our teachers our staff our students and our close-knit families who have sent generation the students through our school these are the reasons why we are are you questing that monoid his school he withdrawing from the surplus list [Music] good afternoon my name is Sylvia Marquez I have taught at Magnolia school for the last 28 years on behalf of our Magnolia staff parents students and community I would like to

006share some key community partnerships know the old elementary is located within walking distance of Azusa Pacific University at Citrus College so the Pacific University has a partnership with Magnolia elementary to provide special services to the student body including Pacific physical education classes and individual counseling APU also provides reading literacy and adapted the single education classes throughout the year for our special education the Magnolia partnership with the University [Music] I can announce college life APU students benefit by completing their service hours at our school I know Lee Elementary has a partnership with the district until health services the district recently renovated part of our facility to relocate their mental health services on our campus the adult transition program is housed and our former sixth grade academy location an expensive specially designed facility was created for the

007program specific needs which includes a fully operational apartment for the students for these reasons we are requesting Magnolia elementary to been withdrawn from the surplus [Applause] afternoon my name is Eugenia Vannevar and I have been part of the Azusa unified family for the past 16 years have been very lucky to be part of both Mountain View and Magnolia today I am honored to be speaking on behalf of Magnolia elementary and my focus will be my safety first of all Magnolia is surrounded by three residential streets making Waukee ideal for parents and students because of our location on citrus which is a commuters route we know our school does not interfere with their flow of traffic this allows for an efficient pick-up and drop-off routine that keeps our community safe also Magnolia provides easy access for

008transportation such as buses and student pickup zones should ours will be closed there is significant concern for our independent student waffles because they wouldn't risk the danger of a crossing over the 210 freeway additionally last o Street is a high traffic area making it not safe for children to cross easily another safety benefit of Magnolia Elementary is the access for emergencies due to the multiple entrances and exits for emergency responders parents and students and so these are some of the reasons why we had Magnolia Elementary are requesting to be withdrawn from the surplus list thank you good afternoon my name is Ed whenever my Maria Elementary School has been in the heart of this middle class single home community for over 60 years when the community was established in the mid fifties the school was

009built with the purpose of educating their children in a safe and friendly environment it is the only school in the district on a megacity Avenue running north to south this property may be worth a very high price in today's market however it is priceless for our students our community selling Magnolia school might provide a short-term solution for the district but he will not resolve the core financial problem it would be extremely detrimental for our students in our community closure of a school on a prime location creates a negative perception of a Sousa Unified School District if my Gloria is lost the district will never be able to recuperate such a prime location normal the trust of this community sousta is a vibrant growing community and we want to make sure the Magnolia continues to serve

010this community for future generations that is why we are requesting 7/11 committee to withdraw our school from the current surplus least our petition is backed with over 1,000 signatures from students start in our community which I will now get to tell committee and soonest our school as the presentations thank you very much [Applause] [Music] my teacher being Miss with Trez I have been a magnet at Magnolia for five years magnolias great school I know because I've been there since kindergarten the teachers there are caring and kind and dedicated there are always available for us to make learning fun they even use their money to buy school supplies help us learn my little brother comes to Magnolia - and my friends and their little brothers and sisters we all love Magnolia and we don't understand why

011you would want to take the school away from us our fine teachers will be out of a job as well as the janitor the cafeteria ladies and the office staff it is if it is true that children are our future by limiting our school education and sending us to crowd explore will not help I'm Magno Elementary I have learn to read write critical thinking and research use music much more we all remember our favorite elementary school and memories we made a magnolia must be the best years of our life middle school high school and college don't have playgrounds [Applause] [Music] good afternoon my name is Benson for us and I am the student council president out of known Elementary School located in the city of Azusa Elementary School has been a year for as long

012as I remember this school has posed as a home for several students including myself it serves as a healthy learning environment but by removing this school from the district you are taking away jobs from teachers that have been there for several years there are many other ways to save this school teachers give up their time for the sake of a child's future and you want to take all of that away this will really help students in lots of ways these teachers and staff make you feel welcome more honest to myself from the beginning of kindergarten to the end has been great I have prospered immensely look at the position where I am now I don't believe that if I were attending another elementary school I would have built up the courage to seek a high

013position in a school this school has become my family most of my classmates I have known since kindergarten the teachers here made me feel comfortable and very self confident and most of all taught me self-discipline the school itself has taught me leadership skills I am now a well-rounded scholar and I have expanded my social background that type of communication is going to help me all throughout my life and seeking colleges and seeking jobs I have developed that at this precisely I wouldn't have been able to grow these abilities elsewhere why because the teachers they had encouraged me non-stop they saw the potential and they motivate and they motivated me from day one and those teachers they're not gonna be found elsewhere and look at me now and the president of derringer school so please do

014us a favor and take our school obvious list that we are not desired to be on [Applause] in a middle area and residential street when my niece would to microampere very happy that we chose to live here now I have two children of my own my oldest is in the seventh grade and he attends Foothill middle school he is a straight-a student he doesn't have a class he reads at a college level thanks to the wonderful teachers at Magnolia Elementary I volunteer at Magnolia almost every morning I see how the teachers are with their students parents head staff they are very welcoming Magnolia is a huge part of our community this is why I never thought I would ever want to leave as you said to invite school district to tell now I have talked

015to many parents and they you say the same thing because the district [Music] [Applause] good afternoon my name is Angelina zawari I am 40 years old and the first elementary school was born let me tell you how magnolia changed my life I came to the United States at the age of 7 sewing very little English I was in a completely different country not understanding the language or culture now thinking back to a seven-year-old and the completely different environment could be a bit scary or intimidating luckily for me my grandparents lived right across this and Magnolia was going to be a new school my first teacher was which I'll never forget miss Walter she took me in our class as her own and taught me everything I needed to know the love and support was incredible

016as she is still appreciated Thank You magnet school for giving me the opportunity to grow and learn I hope that madness continues to provide for our community for the sake of our future please keep magnolias school open for future generations I'm sure the committee leaders know the advantages and disadvantages of shutting down the school for example advantages a better-educated committee creates jobs for teachers and other school officials less crowded classrooms more individual attention in classrooms the elementary school attracts family or individuals to purchase property in the city disadvantages unemployed teachers and school officials of course the opposite overcrowded classrooms less individual attention relocating the school will put too much strain on children and other schools conclusion I have never in my life ever experienced school being closed that alarm makes me sick to my stomach

017Magnolia school gave me a chance and I will not we will not allow you to take that open an opportunity away from any deserving children [Applause] [Music] [Applause] Jony de montagne the only school my sons know is Magnolia elementary my son Leo has Down syndrome he attended Magnolia the past five years its first year he would run around campus to avoid classwork we got to know every classroom restroom and broom closet Leo has thrived at Magnolia this year we enjoyed learning about the gold rush he is reading and writing and watching kids kid burns the West I'm wearing a tool that I use to help Leo understand the importance of being on the group plan to help Leo succeed we use social stories and many other strategies such as this throughout the seven-eleven process people

018have said that kids are resilient my son is resilient that doesn't mean it will be easy for him to navigate school closure it will take a long time for him to adapt to a new environment kids with disability and requires structure and consistency more than their peers there are many students with disabilities at Magnolia Elementary and they will have a hard time adjusting please remove us from the shortlist [Applause] good afternoon I'm Tony from Montevideo the first time I stood here I gather with the parents and teachers stayed at all the facts about our school technique let me refresh everyone's memory regarding this committee and February 28th the committee voted the following schools to be declared a service club Stonestreet altitude in favor to close but no you seven to zero favourite to close Parma

019seven to zero in favor to close Seattle high 61 in favor to close and the schools which they did not recommend to close the three to four and favorite not too close Mountain View our school six to one in favor not home my question now my question right now is how did the committee came up with a new list of schools in less than 35 minutes on April 18th we expect so much from the committee to look into the schools thoroughly because as you have said you needed to reassess them with 35 minutes suffice all the questions that you needed to reconsider our school what is your basis in reconsidering our school and how did the schools that you voted a surplus before I know what happened to them and if you are considering our

020risk all mountain meaning to have a higher market value where did you get that number did you hire a real estate Assessor to assess our land or it's just a perception and if our school is more valuable than any other schools it doesn't mean to say that you're going to sell or at least our land to have a quick fix of the district's financial struggles education is not a business schools as if there is a dollar sign on and look at the value of the teachers of the students and appearance why are the students paying the price of the mistakes devastated of the mismanagement that the district committed without why us why not [Applause] [Music] [Applause] hello my name is Lukas I'm a first grader at Mountain View and I'm here to ask why I

021want to close our school I love my school because that's the only place one student of the Moose AR point and there are prizes when you achieve goals I have 187 point and I'm a classic me already my teacher encourages me to read a lot my school taught me how to read write and speak in Spanish I have my best friend there too I thought that as I said when I was just like a captain up with these don't close my school my your so Lucas this time to America either enough school a mountain view is dirty but a brigand por que tiene el maestro Spooner when come to meet you miss Puna okay is it único lugar donde los ninos didn't mass puntos they are eat ambient noise dumb play music when the company

022mascot monstrous metals go yet then go see and or chip I see people dozed in a poodle email hey DiNozzo now certificado deliver a classical meet my smn1 diva mucho miss winner a pendejo [Applause] [Music] come to us with their questions and their worries and expect to hear information from us that is factual but in this situation have by myself I'm just as confused as they all right now maybe so saying I don't know more often than I wish I did I understand and appreciate the fact that you have taken a very difficult task and then no matter what you decide there will be many disappointments because it goes without saying no one wants their school to close however it would help all of us the committee would spell out the criteria used when a

023bonus made last week elementary schools were evaluated again and some of the schools were left out from being reevaluated without a clearance nation as to why it was mentioned that the ones they had already been ruled out before would not be looked at again my concern is that the minutes from previous meetings don't reflect the choices that were being at the last meeting the criteria that was used to make the current list was simply not clear and leaving some schools out made the process seem unfair please help us understand the reason behind the decisions that were made in the last week so that we are not left to speculate [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] we declared surplus and who moved to a middle school to accommodate the student needs and leave elementary for open to sixth

024grade for 18 I attended and one of the committee members that the job had not been fulfilled as a committee why wasn't that slave in fact when mr. della Torre suggested that and many members that she wanted to add to elementary school I witness there is no that the go matters due to committee morning fingers at each other I wish [Applause] [Music] [Applause] my name is make a correction from something I said at the last meeting at that meeting I said that Systema lab at center was $250,000 come to learn that it was actually more than $300,000 with that lab that's not why I'm here today I don't have a dog in this fight my children are out of school years ago this group from here Villar Kellen all went to Valley Gale Ellington was

025having declining enrollment or the building took our old trap is full track tear and we went over to Ellington somehow we lived through it because the students that walk from here to Valley Dale we're now walking with their same friends over to Ellington I also got the impression that one school thinks their teachers are are better than another or they their teachers contributed more than another I'm here to say that the teachers from all schools [Applause] [Music] [Applause] but their programming is for their school or got a em to school program be at that school we took small underutilized schools those with fewer than 200 students those with fewer than 11 or 12 teachers and combined to those schools you could bring your program a to this school they would have their program be more

026students would be affected by two special programs not just one safety is an important factor I Drive to Arcadia for work every day I go down a burden that's mounted you get on the 210 freeway it is scary those cars coming off the freeway those cars getting on the freeway and watching these little ones trying to go to school very poor parking area in there okay Mike my last statement is just I think when you decide you've got to combine school or two it should be those that are the least disruptive the fewest numbers of students you could take [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] hello members of the board my name is Fabian Hernandez I'm currently a sophomore at Azusa High School I promoted from Mountain View to the year 2012 to 2013 my older

027sis off my older sister also attended Mountain View and I was currently a younger sister in the third grade never in a million years I would have guessed that I would have been in this position giving this message and protesting with many others so that they won't close down listen being in school I'm here today to give you the inside stories and memories created every day at Mountain View what we have here at Mountain View is not just a school it's a community it's the community the parents students staff to the alumni are also making my everlasting friendships at this school with my best friends I make here in kindergarten yeah kindergarten as this day after 11 years I still continue friends this is the story for many other students not only this isn't business

028wonderful school bring me good friendships but also amazing relationships with the teachers every teacher I had at the school helped me grow in every way possible from academics to my personal characteristics which teacher that I've had to my school saw the potential and me had work to help me become a better student one teacher specially influenced me the most his name mr. Stamatis he only development of the person that I am today the 5th grade my dream was to become an astronaut - he went out of his way to support his dream for me for one thing he made in a class project to make the Mars rover which was solar-powered I gave life camera footage this this also grew my curiosity and engineering another time he gave me an acid bath this also I

029sorry if I'd started to cry when he showed me the fact that one teacher would would go out of his way been caring about my future so a piece of inspiration to this day I still have another reason how this school is so fantastic is that new things that they are implementing into it be honest have jealous of the things that they that they now have that I didn't have all the new activities and events that they now have so just as Saturday sessions they have to practice for the state Tennessee I never had that when I was attending there now I hope to see my younger sister achieve a higher score just as I managed to board a perfect more of the math section of course with the Jewish bring you their wall and

030also I'm glad to see that my mother is really the community of the school well all my other friends might have stay-at-home moms makes in the PTO community the PTO parent committee my mom is really involved in in all the school activities with all these changes I can proudly say that mountain views on the road to becoming that sensational school again I asked some members of the board to reconsider this decision and keep the school lab apart from is housing a whole community that we have built a month amongst ourselves it is that's how me what makes not to be unique from all villages student to all those boys you might ask I remember a conversation that I had with the same teacher mr. Samanas we were discussing an incident that happened he told us

031that the fact that next partner he told us at the academics is not the only thing that the teachers at this moment sportsmanship responsibility and other important life lessons that other schools don't teach your kid as much but these stories and information I presented this fool has brought me many great memories and overall came the path of my future [Applause] [Music] [Applause] mr. Donnell I have got out of those of my daughter's you think I'm on about so I'm just very concerned about what's going on with my what the school I see those two she was going to Montebello and I see over here looking at all the young kids today I'm wondering what's going on with the kids I come from and I feel special it's they kept up all the way around how

032to read oh my god don't give up on these kids they're hoping they could to not there's money in the federal government but if I went I do work for the Sheriff Department so we're going to give kids a helping hand at derivative very early age at 14 years old and have a minor so do you know so if you can [Applause] [Music] they definitely took away our from center middle school and I'm here although we're not on the recommend recommendation list we're still on the consideration ways and I'm here not only representing myself saying I'm also representing Boston as cutting either one of those schools are recommending it for closing what effect those communities where the students go to us I know money's important but that's not important I just just just got our

033presentation with stats money something I want to remind the committee that sometimes money when it goes it's gonna affect people's lives which also costs money I have to get to school a big city settling us I hope the committee reconsiders school once again notice was her soul spread apart that it would affect those students having to watch so whether he's lost in is they would have to come to the Southside Center the district put it or standard ice person or cycle or the middle foot us again I believe that I hope that committee they stopped to consider a surface as well as ads on Elementary's to the consideration is that maybe not these but others because that's just us but just Middle School competes at racialism and if you don't recommend in the other school

034any of us on the list you're leaving us by ourselves thus I hope that you also take into consideration other schools that are that lady mentioned the votes the last time that had a high goal percentage make happen on the consider a service as well with us again I hope that the committee takes lives and people's children's safety into consideration because again someone said earlier no one's going to be happy at the end but there is a solution to where you have the beast damage and effect I hope you guys [Applause] [Music] oh yeah and this is dolar said mostly what I wanted to say if you close a middle school when door I'll probably get into some of our kids and up and saucer can't close that because it's just logistically difficult our school

035center has just been going through a whole revamping we do have a three thousand dollar lab where is that going to go but I'm wondering if we saved one school is Rosedale part of our property ownership we own that did that be considered taking off allele is Burke let our analysts because I don't think there's anybody going here do we own is it ours and Doris I might want to have it I think you guys might want to consider Rosedale as part of a surplus property and that might save one school [Applause] [Music] [Applause] if that is me and moving on to the next section of the edge of that which is the committee's discussion of the priorities when any of the committee members would like to make any statements at this time prior to

036discussing the priority use list in response to the community and have their comments I'll go ahead and start since I wasn't here last week and I do apologize that I had a scheduling conflict you couldn't have anybody watch my kids and they both wore this district and so I'm part of all this kind of a little disgusted that some of the things I heard of what happened in our meeting I think everybody at this table was pretty confident in themselves we're all adults we don't make our own decisions there should be a anybody here at the same time I'd make a perfectly clear from mr. McLaughlin that we are not as a committee here to close make school we're simply here to advise but we have considered what we think would be surplus to gain

037some funds for the school district I appreciate everybody here in the audience that's here but at the same time the board makes that decision and I understand that you're concerned about your school but as a committee I don't see why we're trying to close schools that should be the board's job they get paid for that not us okay so if you're going to single out schools then either take them all off or put them all let them make that decision [Applause] just looking at all this paperwork known as surplus property school close your community we're not close the schools why it's on the paperwork I don't know I'm just it just doesn't seem big in the sense to me what we're doing here at food is not going to come together as a group they

038go out individuals and all this other stuff we're going to be here for weeks maybe months and the borders at that time for that they didn't make a decision [Applause] [Music] something needs to be done he said so the Russians asked one of the community members what was the criteria and we would give it a very specific set of I'm gonna say limitations or criteria that we were supposed to look at we weren't given every school as an option we weren't given they didn't even have all the elementary schools on there or and we were tolerable to look at traffic patterns we were told to look at where students lived in relationship to the traffic we were told to look at how many classrooms their work with the school capacity was and so within that

039limitation of the information we've been given that's how we've made that choice how we may give and all the information and I'm not saying you're not that's the information we're requesting that's not the statement I'm making but we're not really two things have been discussed in closed session with the board we don't know why Valle del was left off the list or the middle schools were left off the list we don't know that I'm also going to say that all of you here today and especially a lot of people parents who came from Center last time and the teachers at spoke from Center gave us information that we weren't doing and I'll give you an example it was the sixth grade credentialing issue that you know we had talked about that the parents had expressed

040an interest in keeping sixth grade at elementary well okay we didn't understand as a committee that credentialing could really be my stuff and teacher assignments and things like that because we weren't given that information so when you ask how are you making this decision or making a decision on which schools to recommend as possibilities to the board based on that information that we've been given and so we all watch and understand that we're listening to you and I know there are board members that are here listening to you and taking your information that you're giving into consideration as well I'm so sorry there's going to be a little bit later in the session right so the voltaire question please with all due respect okay you will be able to ask again does anybody else have

041something they want to say I hope that that adds up that much the criteria question because I'm trying to make sure we're valuing what you say then responding I didn't know about the $350,000 down low I didn't know that so you know I have a new piece of information at this time I guess then we need to review the current priority news list what revisions to that mr. McLaughlin maybe right so at this point we have the prettiest list that was published so we can review that and make any revisions give any camera at once or I have learned a new piece of information that I want to share the P and I'd like to ask mr. McLaughlin to elaborate on it and that is ask the question outside of this table that how long

042does the school board or is the school board allowed to refer back to whatever recommendations we make do they only have six months so there are there a time clock to to make their choices by September or how long is this good for and what does that mean right so the there's no law that limits the amount of time that the district can use this report we recommend that it lasts between two and three years so the board can take your report take it under consideration and essentially table the decision up to two to three years and then even after that they can do what they can they can decide to revisit it we adopt it so just because you submit a report to the board doesn't mean there's any time constraints on to what

043they can do what they can do they can take it into consideration and just put it in the file and we consider the next year two years from now there's no deadline and the board hasn't established any deadline so that's important to keep in mind this could be a recommendation that they can look at and say based on the community feedback we're gonna take this into consideration but we're gonna revisit it a year down the road get maybe get more information so that's important is there an expiration so in other words if they don't do anything in three four five years process no what the board can do is they can either decide that they want to we keep it keep it and use it or they can decide that they think too much time

044that's gone by and then they want to assign another surplus property committee but they're not required to do that and we've had districts to three years say we're just going to we got revisited and based on that report so as I think you've mentioned it's important to keep in mind for everybody this is just one component that the board is going to be considering when they're making their decision this committee is making their comments based on the input that they get and their specific personal experiences but the board understands that there's a lot of other information that they're gonna consider when they make a decision so this is simply a part of the process and it's a recommendation of the board the board will make that decision you explained to us in one of our

045very first meetings and when there were about the fact that if we wouldn't schools on a list a recommendation list and the board decides to actually sell one or lease one you have to by law notify certain state agencies first about the sale or lease correct and the concern of charter schools came up and that a lot of us here recognized that that was not necessarily a good thing and if I'm speaking out of turn you can correct me and so the issue was what is the timetable and then you had expressed that there was some legislation that came down with Mike can you please explain at times to believe right so in summary there was a law that was enacted four years ago that gave charter schools priority meaning if the school district decides

046to sell her Lisa property before they offer it to the public they have to offer it to certain charter schools and negotiate with those charter schools if they show interest that law sunsetted last year meaning it cancelled and no longer valid but somebody in the legislature passed another law that would basically reenact that it's up in the Senate right now so it's not a law but it's pending in the Senate basically it's going through the process so it is possible at any time that if that law got to the governor and you signed it the charter schools would have a priority what we call as the laws written now it wouldn't apply to any property is declared surplus before that law passes so in other words if the district decided to clear up property surplus

047now and the law passed the law would apply to it but the law had changed because again it's circulating in committee as it's ready now it will only apply after the first of the year so any property that's declared surplus after January first would first have to go to the charter schools but again Allah is circulating in the legislature there's a lot of conjecture as to whether or not it'll ever see the light of day or it might go through some fundamental changes but that is pending in the legislature so again but again recommend schools that are still under consideration first are gloves the school board in an interest of protecting themselves against this charter school advantage could declare war schools surplus then we've even recommended correct correct and they can do that for whatever

048reason so this committee could recommend that no site he declared surplus but the board doesn't have to follow that they could not follow that because of charter schools they can followed not follow that for other reasons but the ultimate decision is with the board the step they need to five follow is to accept the report from this committee that's our job so on the other hand if we decide that no schools get closed the board can come back and say we want all the school interpreters yes they the only thing that they're limited to is the sites that are currently on the list so they will consider they're required to accept the report and read it and consider it but at the end of the day because again this is only a piece of their

049ultimate decision-making side and the other way this committee could recommend to surplus all the properties and the board can decide the opposite to you they can say we're not going to do that so it's ultimately again sir if you'd like to speak there is a time sort of music we will allow you to do that yeah I have a question I wasn't here last week so I didn't get to partake in immediate festivities but why was to elementary schools put on I throw that elephant on the table for anybody who wants to answer that anybody want to answer why all I said into otherwise you're supposed got throwing other things I think I'll try to answer that and the fact of the matter is we got a list of how many elementary schools were on

050the list and how many empty classrooms each of those schools have and with that being said we decided that we should put another school on surplus list we have tons of school that have all not time we have eleven but they all have too many empty classrooms to just sit there and erst so all the classrooms were considered as opposed to what empty classrooms they have correct that's what the decision was made for these two particular last week or the last time just like in your own home if you had a six-bedroom home and you lived in it by yourself chances are you're probably going to sell and that's how we came up with this decision that we probably needed to put another school longer list because and my question again was why were these

051two schools particularly single oh we went around again and we looked at things that we looked at when we first started the committee where how many kids are we going to lose to the surrounding City that Jason that's how we decided that maybe it would be in the best interest to put and it's not really just for one year of saving money this is going to save the district ongoing I'm not going to have substantial cost year after year after year that we're going to have to so we're also under the assumption and I say wait together that there are low enrollment so to stay that level is out cuz I can like that for 14 years now I look up I see a lot of young kids ready to come to school been designing

052for 14 years I don't see in the next two years or three years or even even the next fourteen years then I just didn't realize we can all see [Applause] [Music] I'm sorry could you share what the projections are and again these are projections for next year of the message yes so this is from our second interim report that is our budget update that we provide the board currently we're at two thousand two hundred and seventy kids next year were projected to go down to seven thousand nine hundred and forty six kids and in nineteen twenty were projected to go down to seven thousand seven hundred and nine kids and that is for a DA earning kids it's not including a preschool kids or our 80k kids which are our early transitional kindergarten aggregates that

053we have in our classrooms but we're not earning dollars real estate so it's only the eighty-eight earning kids and excludes Adult School as well someone the committee last week pointed something out that was a different lens for me to look through and that was really that this committee is looking at the data data that were given simply you make the board but by law because it's hard to process opening the opportunity for them to have option we're not choosing however we're looking at the schools that potentially where as mrs. delorca said could it be combined could share could work together could be closed least or sole and we're giving them the more possibilities it's a possibility that could happen within the next recommended three years could it happen in September I suppose I can't imagine

054it could happen that fast but that's the lens that we have to look through is opening up the opportunity or the possibility for the board to make that decision it doesn't even make me that they're going to make it the other thing is it's not our job to decide where your child is going to go to school or where another school is going to be transplanted to or anything else that's not our job and we shouldn't be looking through that lens and that's true correct that is correct and just another point to belabor the point that this so even if the board tomorrow declared a site surplus there's a lot of other legal hoops that it has to go through it has to give notice to certain agencies it has to engage in negotiations it

055has to offer it to the public and at any step in that process the board can stop it basically say that they're not going to proceed with selling or leasing so there is a long process involved in this so the idea that the school is going to be closed overnight is not the case there's steps that the board needs to take and again the board is going to make these decisions follow a path and every step of the way the board can stop it they feel like it's not a good idea they're not getting the return on investment that they're assuming that they're gonna get they can stop the process almost every moment you get to go first okay so this next step on the agenda is the review of the current priority use list

056right so the priority lists is what we published we can make any revisions so the committee can make any revisions that it wants if we change anything we have to republish it and another public hearing if we keep it the way it is and we can move forward with discussing the draft report the draft report will incorporate this priority use list so we need to decide if we're going to keep it the way it is and if we're going to change it what changes we're going to do I also want to point out and maybe I should have done this earlier but I do get a comment from mr. Rosales it was not this meeting he informed us that he couldn't be at this meeting he'll be at the next one he did express his

057opinion that his stance still remains that all sites except for Sierra [Applause] and Y be reopened it but again he's not here so he doesn't vote at this time he comes back [Music] okay prior to making any revisions to the list or voting on the rarity use list you may go ahead and speak and I don't have a card so I don't know your name so go ahead to the microphone can you give me yes okay could you state your name please yes my name is Hany I have questions to ask you because I mention the parents I want to know why the state district decides closed down the schools I wanna know if they exist about it from above Governor Jerry Brown decided the schools have to close down he suggests from the specific

058districts oh he speaks of the the revenue that you receive I researched and found that it was ten thousand and what governor six it is to this I believe Nora two years ago the 98.9 aliens signal is to say unify school instead of a bargain in my opinion because I am a teacher I just went yesterday to Lane mmm I got two baby clothes in the schools I believe it open in the schools I told them the story of for example of the time of the spaniel when they arrived I told look at the story of Junipero Serra and all those people that they came here to educate they came here because they have a vision they can take him Aggie Deering they came here to it okay in the way that made the California

059I would have now make the only statement about I don't think close in the school because I have one or two students will solve any surplus I'd like to use this very case I live in a free nation unlike the register because I have Congress so I believe that we are put that we have the means to continue here indicate any kids close to the school is not gonna be a solution it was a school and you transfer the kids to another school you're gonna have a lot of popularity school what are you going to do with the building what are you supposed to do with the building sell it Gregory very stakes I have to mean that I don't like it for example the city has the idea and sent down the invitation to

060the people to the citizens to vote favor against MetroCard the more we should continue to generate the mountains in your mind the things the mountain so far this year amount to him they reacted to our on the who what I a mysterious and he was no need there is no need to close the school maybe time I another like this your suppose one team we do not close what we're gonna be so nasty with many things might be God will do if all of us I'm not exactly the apple of beside well the people be denied their fears white path is this he is in a bad mood no he's just like any other if you like like all of us because we were afraid if that is some image he may be anemic booth

061at least also being with the same rational thinking that we have you must be so drastic and to destroy thank you very much I don't think miss Felicity said it's a good idea I am mad in debate horribly when you try I don't actually if you're not a reasonable like that makes you talk amazed me is I have what sugar here to you or the she you know teacher mrs. cominski are you a teacher I'm sorry you use your time at this point sinus okay yes vomiting in order to delete one place you need to have the vocation and you need to know what you're doing if you are not a teacher then you know if you do not know nothing about dialectician you don't know what it's like ecology you don't know what it's

062pedagogy you don't know the things that we need to know you know you need to do the things with your heart because you have the vocation that if I'm gonna have the biggest paycheck show around no I believe Tracy might believe the things that make change the people I don't want a school closing down okay apologize what we do I do want to just make a couple other points again to drive this home like this committee is just making a recommendation to the board the board is going to make the ultimate decision when this committee adopts the report and sends it to the board that report will be presented in open session so the public will have the rights to the comments directly to the board at that time and then other times too so

063this isn't your only option and in fact the board does encourage you obviously remember the public to speak there we need to move forward because we do have legal obligations to make this report and this recommendation based on the simulation okay having this interjection by the attorney we need to review the current parody useless and any possible revisions are there any committee members who would like to make a proposal to consider I know he said that at this point we are no longer to keep those and that they would be heard at the either next mini meeting to review the report or so we're following the rules based on the Robert's Rules of Order and the board agenda so are there any committee members who would like to make a revision to the list at

064this point yeah I'd like to see if I can make a motion to remove or let me rephrase that to make one of two options remove the elementary schools from the list or if we're as a committee going to put elementary schools on the list [Applause] [Music] [Applause] you're gonna have to fight for Kate that I'm gonna say meaning that one under 9 to a boat and then we need to discuss the vote on it listen so ok I'm gonna I'm gonna ask you to clarify it because since we already have an approved list what you would have to do is propose you to he sent her on the list and removed the 200 entries that were out of the last time thank you sorry Sierra what did it I didn't mean that I didn't

065mean that I really didn't mean that honestly I've been enlightened - thank you very much ok so we keep Sierra on the list the two Elementary's that were put on the list last time you're gonna make the motion wait you're gonna make a motion someone has to second then we have time for discussion [Music] from suppressor his okay since there is no second there will be no discussion related to that but you had a second motion that you wanted to do and I make another motion we continue to keep Sierra high school on the surplus list where we add all the other elementary schools from the previous list given to us to the rest of the surpluses as well as the other 12 hey is there a second okay so I'm in a second only

066because I think that this warrants some discussion [Music] [Applause] [Music] well you're the one that made the motion would you like to discuss first yeah I just think that as a committee our job was to determine what suppose size with your surplus and since we started day one till today we haven't accomplished at this house how I feel so if we're going to as a committee submitted elementary schools which is I think that's what we all want to do because obviously there's some value in those elementary schools why not just put all over all of us because it's not our decision to focus they can also choose to remove the muscle if that's their decision to but as a committee we're just going to go around them elementary schools on [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause]

067[Music] randomly through one preschool we discussed various elementary schools and took various elementary schools off because of location we took off because of traffic conditions we put schools on because of their proximity to another school that would make it easier for those to go from one school to the other school I mean there was a discussion of all those factors and I'd say it wasn't randomly done that's true and I the reason why I seconded the motion and wanted us to discuss it is because of this information that I learned about this new legislation that's potentially coming down the pike that could limit the boards of options in the sense that if we don't give them as many open opportunities as possible to choose from then then if this legislation passes and we have to

068offer it to six charter schools thank you then only the schools that we have really recommended or the board that recommends after us can't be around to bother it to this process because that's what it's about and so I just was thinking that we needed to be made a just consider that because of the fact that we want to give the board as many options as possible we have said we feel like our hands were tied because we didn't get to consider every school well we don't want to do the same thing to them well you know what Ming I'm gonna step in right now because I believe that the middle schools were not put on the list because they are not surplus they don't have all the space I'm not trying to you know

069what honestly I'm not trying to push me on the middle school I have learned a lot of new information in the last couple of weeks that has made me reconsider where I'm coming from in my mind and so that's not what I'm saying I'm specifically just taught by a mentor a second when he did discuss that law I for a second thought maybe we should declare all of them surplus property so that it doesn't tie our hands down but I think out of this committee we have went through every single school wondering if we were going to lose any school my main concern is if we are going to lose any children to neighboring districts we went down the list and we decided which ones we would so by limiting them then they basically gotta

070stick to those other two the two that are on the list you so that if they do if we keep them on the list and they decide not to sell these for rent that property then it opens it up to a charter school coming to our district and that is not what we want so by limiting now view and Magnolia to this list it kind of restricts them from looking elsewhere it restricted unless they want a starter school coming into our school district in the future I see what you're saying I see what so any other discussion you know let me just make it crystal clear that this legislation that we're talking about is even happened it could not happen it could change so we don't want to assume that it's gonna pass with a

071lot of people but it is something that we can consider it is good that this discussion just keep in mind that it's not pending in any way it's basically in the Senate I mean I'm sorry that I'm dominating and keep coming back to this but the charters know the thing is a really huge factor for us and it caught and it costs the district money if a charter school moves in because they take our kids take our money but we still have to provide them with a certain number of services that aren't across to us and I want I want to make that very clear you know we don't I don't want okay or is there other discussion related to his motion to keep sear on the list but then add all the elementary spot

072okay then we're going to go for a vote and I'm gonna ask you to raise your hands all those in favor of adding all the elementrees to the list say completion all those opposed to really have these it is five to two so your motion is denied okay now we have the same already I'm sorry reberty use list in play that has Sierra magnolia so is there any further discussion or not before we vote to finalize that as the list is on for what we're doing now is making a final vote to move Sierra forward like Magnolia and mountain to recommend them as surplus perdy by doing that hand the next step is that the committee which is mrs. fields mrs. Davao and mrs. Merlyn will write up a report to reflect on that report

073and then that would go to put that ends of us and then right and then goes no you don't you get to do it again you know he's great that's why I'm asking you if you have any other comments you want to make on that before we take a look a final bit and just one more point to make it a little bit more confusing so the priorities list as you see we have three sites on there but beyond declaring them surplus we have to recommend the order of sale we already didn't know this but we can change that so maybe so then I'm going to say I'm asking because I'm not interrupt me please if you have comments because I don't see you I don't forget anybody what I the motion would be is

074to move forward the current priority use list as Sierra high school including Adult Ed and the other things on the campus for as surplus and for sale declaring mountain recommending Mountain View we declared surplus and sale Magnolia recommend Magnolia being declared surplus and sale those were the recommendations that were made the last time as written in this priority useless so is there a motion to move to that priority list as we decided last night this is still no motion is there a second and mrs. Bruhl a second any further discussion or comments from the committee members I have so at this point with these with these three schools identifying the board could still at some point come back and say we want to identify additional properties as well and form another surplus committee to address

075the other schools in the district to provide more options for them if they felt like they needed they wanted those options that is perfect any other questions comments aye all those in favor of moving the priority list as needed forward raise your hand and all those against Kate as a five to two in favor of moving the Marie loose to warmer it out of it now I'm assuming we keep the same subcommittee to write the report cracked headed by mrs. doe though yeah yes are you okay with that much this bills this is Merlot this is Davao and gave me the chapters in that committee okay now I have a question at this time to give to the committee any considerations were asking them to make to put into the report or do those have

076to be voted on as well that discussion was drafted we changed it because it's a new priority list we can look through that if you like me to start from scratch at this point we can have a discussion as to anything that we want to have the subcommittee including the report to review for our next meeting however you want to handle it you want to start the fact report that was originally drafted and review it you just want to make comments that you want the subcommittee to consider and click into the report I have a question at one point when we were discussing things it was in that the board could make a decision to have this happen and you just told us that a whole bunch of things not to happen first but at

077that point when we started in February it was plausible that when we started in February okay I'm asking because at another point the reason why we met today was because there was a big first deadline for transfers and that's why we pushed for today as a meeting date was to take that into consideration and I'm looking at you know kind of put you on the spot to you because the reason I'm asking is do we want to make the considerations today so that the report is finalized that we meet sometime soon and then finalize it and then we're done and it goes to the board or do we still have two more meetings three more meetings because since we don't I don't know what the process is I wanna I mean I don't want to

078rush it but I also want to hold that we want to give yeah so what we can do technically is today we could have the report what eventually is going to happen because we can't have we have meetings til the end of time if we had to approve the final report so what we do is in the meeting we say okay here's the report these are all the changes we want see and then we assign three people to give the final approval so the board so this committee will say we approve we approve this report with all these written changes on it subjects to the final subcommittees review and that the district incorporates all those changes submits it to those three people and then they approve it so today we could do that we could

079I could pass this report around this draft we can mark it up we could vote on the final markup and say this is the report were approving subject to these changes made approved by the side so technically we can finish today we could also have another meeting there's a lot of changes or if we want to decide have more discussion about it technically we can do this today so do we want to do this today do we want to meet again what what what is the committee's thoughts on this I have I I have a couple of things that I would like amended on there you know when it talks about that we chose all the men trees because of the bathrooms in and we kind of looked at things differently than versus now by

080adding the elementrees I think a couple of those things need to be changed yes or take a home I don't mean take our schools but like like for example you know originally we had discussed making a consideration of asking the board to do another 7-eleven committee to consider other things I don't necessarily I'm in favor of doing that anymore after hearing certain things and understanding that the board has the right to make that decision where people go you know where people go and things like that that's not necessary for us to make a consideration and so and honestly if I didn't read that report line for line because once we had changed the motion I thought that that was another point so I want time just right now and look on it make sure that

081you know everything okay just cuz I didn't and I don't feel comfortable so I'm willing to do it now and stay but mr. McLaughlin at one has closed that time it made it appropriate for the next meeting when the report is presented so and there is a school meeting actually on Tuesday the first May 1st what time it is that to a board meeting board meeting is 6:00 to 6:30 on Tuesday at City Hall correct I do have a copy prior rap record I tried to change it based on the prior useless that we have we can review it right now try to get through it we don't have to we can start that process with you [Music] okay so we need to have a go to the side level and close public comment during

082this meeting [Music] this is no motion to close the public is there a second mr. Donaldson's like that is there any discussion question all those in favor of a motive all those in favor of closing motion carries so do we want to baby s report and do it now and your recommendations for changes or or not waned and do it another meeting a lot so we can do when we did last level two and can we start it now can everyone stay down so anyone that I was probably staying now I changed priorities list the match what was voted on but the original comments which you can change adjusts this will be the final reports if you notice any typos or anything that's not clear [Music] on page 3 it says one of the reductions

083identified was too close to I think we talked about this last time that I don't remember specifically that we were told to consider two schools so is anyone opposed to changing that sentence I'm at the top of page three where it says due to concerns about declining enrollment at limited state funding the Board of Education requested a budget of a review that fiscal solvency of the district and identify possible reductions one of the productions identified was too close to schools will be given the specific charge to choose two right you're talking about a pack class okay so no I don't remember so I will I want to test that because I was there an idol and my age suffer we did not necessarily recommend to schools but the other two subgroups did so yes parents

084it was made clear to me that because this work will probably not be ready up there by May first that will probably go to the school board meeting on May 8th which is going to be at district offices school board room do not May first problem we may need I'm sorry I was wrong it's at Gladstone Street Elementary School on May and what time does the board meeting start 7 7 o'clock 7 o'clock at night [Music] [Applause] [Music] question on page five it says committee members had different opinions about whether it's Paris should be relocated to an elementary schools by our middle school site we had the last plane that that was not art our job and that that was not our decision - we should food that in there it's not required to be

085in there but well I could well but this is really shines as part of the consideration as though my asked me because so this is just the memory of our [Music] on page 7 the way under the way peroxide mentioned Alzheimer's yes and that's something we need to discuss so for the waiver option for each sites I think we've talked about this a little bit but in general what happens is once the district board declares a site surplus decides to sell they go through a process the traditional bid procedure means that they make offers to serve public agencies public option meaning that they take bids from the public and their law requires or to award to the highest bidder so ever offers and most money you can also go to the stain ask to waive

086that process which means that it's that you send out an rfp you which basically says we're looking to sell this property give us your best offer in that case the board can consider other things beyond price and consider what kind of use of property it's going to be done they can consider the escrow period in the due diligence and so that's an option and we can recommend that the board assume that waiver process for any of the properties all of them we can recommend that they don't and they just stick to the tradition or recommend we don't forget to say reduce if I remember correctly didn't we useless to us before and we had the discussion that it was advisable to seek the waiver that that was the best option correct yes that's do we

087remember having that conversation higher I remember having that conversation so so can we just go ahead and my weekly reports okay so you yes does anybody have any sites recommending requests for all that does is no like that option to the board yeah for any of the identified properties right yes and that doesn't guarantee that the board will get the waiver from the state but it gives me options it'll be part of reports oh yeah so if anyone has any questions basically it gives a district more flexibility in centering tied to select that whoever makes the most money offers the most money they can say well we might not get a little little less money from these people but they're going to do so I have a question on page eight I personally no longer

088comfortable with the considerations that are expressed here middle school so I think that the board needs to decide that and we all discussed as a group that it was going to be the board that made the decision of where they went not us and so this part that's a nice iteration is it now no longer we can just can we just take that out because of the fact that unless others we want to keep it in their box there anyone who absolutely wants to keep it in there I you know after the discussion of the fact that it was our charge to identify them but I feel like that's not okay so I'm going to ask that we take out that paragraph that says committee members expressed different unions does anyone have a pump with

089that okay [Music] and then where it says the committee member also discussed the option of expanding elementary sites to include sixth-grade ice I still learn more parents want that than not and so I would like to still center keeping that there as an option a consideration for the board especially because if that and I know that there are it's a mixed bag you know from teachers and for parents but I heard or say that they would like to keep and I mean parents and so I'm gonna look at the people who reflect the parent group mrs. fields I can ask you about sixth grade stay at the elementary to make a comment about that because I heard very 50/50 from teachers that I talked to but I heard from parents overwhelmingly that they that idea

090now there is the credentialing issue a dis fast I'm sorry what okay so so can we right instead of discussed you know asks the board to consider investigating an option I think if we just look at that sentence some committee members suggest the board investigate this possibility though we didn't totally did it you know the spangles yep so I think that is a good suggestion for the board to investigate some too many members suggest the board consider I mean investigate the option of expanding it says and then just the rest of the sentence expanding the elementary school sites to which may affect the moment reductions of the elementary sites I think the rest of that sounds exciting [Music] so can you read that mr. McLaughlin so an odd person I was the second paragraph we're

091taking out the second sense I mean a second yes okay second second paragraph is smelling completely the next one now paragraphs you were saying the committee also discussed the option of investigating expanding now an interesting site sixth grade just changing the option of expanding or investigating to excrete cheeky not expanding to investigating no that could also discuss the option investigate the expansion is that what you say okay can everybody and I and then in in light of the fact that we're not looking at middle school sites anymore and asking the board to be responsible for that decision can we take out that third paragraph that begins with finally [Music] is everybody okay with that mr. donalsen as McNary [Music] the comments under Section two are all before this was prepared mr. McLaughlin said the way

092had opportunity to provide comments so these are all specific to a relocation for Sierra high school and the adult education center are you looking at page 9 number 2 I'm noting that page 2 starting on page 2 and on to page 9 yeah oh yes so I was really just looking at this is an opportunity to share with the board some of the special needs of those sites as they consider a relocation site if they choose to move forward with some movement on that piece of property [Music] are there any other changes that you can see that need to be made does anybody need more time to read the report so in summary hasn't now changes that I have looks like the first all the pages to page seven remain the same page seven under

093waiver options will revise that and indicate that the committee's gonna write district pursue a waiver as to each site [Music] then on page eight for the considerations subsection one other district property in the second paragraph and removing in its entirety the third paragraph we are changing to stay the committee also discussed the option of investigating the expansion the elementary school sites through sixth grade which may affect enrollment projections of the elementary school [Music] all the changes I'm sorry can't hear you the rest of the board has so we can talk about it now if anyone was sad or we did decide do you have any moments about the basic question the vote counts that we've had some of which website that those are all public on like public document that are found website practically no

094boots that were done today including mr. Delatour emotions if you want to have bad anybody we can have that the report is submitted hey well I think that it needs to be included that it was to fight you to vote for the final report so I'll recommend suggest picking out that at the very end say the final committee voted 5-2 to through this final report surplus we didn't report I'm talking about surplus burning this technique to the things that about like the suggestions that you made that they need to understand it's not an animus the surplus so we can add that dimension determination or recommendation section there are general comments many discussion sections starting on the courage before get out of that at the end so we can stand and so that would be on

095page five and right before the discussion determining determination and recommendation we had the committee voted five to two following Jesus can you even have done does anybody have a problem with us including Matt we're gonna put it yeah so right before after and before we start with after a careful consideration and deliberation right before that yeah so the prior section the end of the prior section [Applause] [Music] I know changing incentives operation the gracious device you do not see okay so we'll stay after careful consideration and deliberation the Advisory Committee recommends what that 5 to 2 in favor favor after careful consideration and deliberation the advisory committee recommends both the flag to two in favor to the governing board the following business or his property so we'll remove that prior sentence do we have to

096know more so we just well what we recommend is we now we can discuss because again otherwise we just have to have meetings at nauseam so we'll say that will approve this report subject of the changes and then we'll delegate authority to one two three people to receive this via email so we'll make these changes assigned to those three people those who will make sure that they see the changes that we discussed I'll give their final no further changes it changes to be made that we have to we meet again to discuss that yes so if three people that we assigned for whatever reason can agree that this is the final award that will schedule another meeting to hash that out so that's what we usually do we can also just have another meeting where

097does anyone know the subcommittee had like mr. Thomson so I'll make these changes and red line and final and I'll send them to you and then each one individually needs to say there's questions then we can have a discussion but subject to these changes we're going to vote now to approve this final report what the changes were just discussed does it have to be unanimous doesn't I do want to say it's not about the report that's written I think that this very effectively communicates what we had discussed and I - okay so is there mr. Lowe is there a second this is second in Corrections come on questions okay all those in favor say aye one abstention cuz he wasn't here okay okay the motion carries it's narrow motion to adjourn so let me just

098I'm sorry let me just state that this committee will still be active once that happened we'll notify you all that happens and then we'll let you know when this is going to be presented to the board not obligated to compare before if there's any questions or issues with approving or that we're going to let you know the most schedule another meeting but officially now we're still an active committee and in contact so we don't need to schedule it's possible okay is there a motion to adjourn act five Dream Eater I make a motion to adjourn this meeting at 5:22 second second by mr. Donaldson almost a favor say aye supposed carries thank you you

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