001Let's call the open session to order at 5:33 p.m. Sorry, we're 3 minutes late. Um, can everyone stand for a moment of silence? Right hand over your heart. Ready, begin. I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Um for report of action taken on close session student personnel item 2425-29. It's unanimous that the board voted to expel current semester and uh student can return with um conditions. Uh B, student personnel item 2425-27. Um the student or the board um unanimously decided to expel for 12 months and there are conditions for the student to return. We have hearing section. Anyone have comment cards? All right, we'll move on to consent calendar. Thank you. Get
002a motion. Um, one thing, we have to remove item uh 9B. Uh, that won't be second. All in favor? I none oppose. Thank you. The item removed from the consent calendar is 9B and it's removed because we don't have the meeting. Correct. Uh, it's because the position itself has to be approved first. Do you have someone in mind for it? For for the for that position. It's not the position the way the the CSC union works, but you have to go through CSC union. The position itself that step was missed. So that position needs to be approved by the CSU because it was a little bit different position. It was basically a PE, physical education, a support in physical education. the job description was not written close enough to what it should be and that
003need to go before the CSA first. Did you interview and have a name? Yes, that was so what we're doing uh in the interim is having that person brought forward as a classified substitute. They can start supporting the district in other ways until we can get that. But you have someone Yes, we do sir. Yes, sir. Thank you. All right. Over to you, Manny. Item 11. Yes, sir. for new employee. Uh, real quick, we have campus safety, uh, BBMS, James Norton. I don't believe James. N okay, James, uh, another Big Bear High School graduate, which is always exciting, and a BB USD parent. He's excited to join the team at Big Bear Middle School. I know Christy and team love it. The the impact they have between campus safety and cameras and all that they
004have in place there has really made a difference at that school. And our next one, I do believe he is in the audience. Is correct? Yes, absolutely. um is our me our mechanic assistant um bus driver Ashton Tuttle. Ashton, please Ashton started as a bus driver on February 2024. We are excited to see him expand his role in the transportation department. So, thank you very much. We really appreciate it. We're excited to have you. I know Sean is really excited. He's getting his whole team together and his a little bit of magic you guys are creating over there and I we appreciate everything you guys are doing. Happy to help. Thank you. and you guys are awesome. Thank you very much. All right. So, can I ask something real quick? No, just out of curiosity.
005Uh, how many people are working in transportation who are in non bus driver ro roles but have the certificate or the credential to drive a bus? Well, that would be just it would be our transportation supervisor. Oh, so it's not common. It's not it's not always common. The only one that doesn't is our dispatch. And that's a new development in the past. That's a new development. Oh, you can do both. Usually we had everybody kind of great to have people who can do different things in those emergency days when you almost everyone is flash driver. Yes, because they run so tight that they have That's awesome. But do you have to be um licensed to drive the vehicles just without students or what's the what's the deal? Um, so you have a class B license,
006but then you need your school bus certificate and passenger certificates like endorsements. Okay. And then yeah, you get a CHP certificate to drive the bus. But is it required for the future? If you're a mechanic, you have to you could do just the bus, but but our mechanics are fully fully. All right. um item called personnel report. Hit it, man. This is very very exciting for all of us. I know for me and especially for you especially for me and honestly I I say that for me but um you know Miss Drake has kicked in, Miss Rawlings has kicked in and everybody Heather every I mean all my my secretary everybody has done such an amazing job kicking in while we didn't have this position in place. Uh so we are excited that we're going
007to employ our executive director for our 6 through 12 curriculum and instruction and instructional um for the 2026 2026 2027 school year 2526 sorry we are really excited. Okay, we're going to keep him. Um and I'll read right now, but let me introduce we are excited to announce Mr. Brian Williamsy. [Music] Okay. So, let me read this bio real quick because it's pretty good and I think it's worth knowing. Okay. And we have to vote after this, right? You have to vote after let's judge it. Judge it completely. Don't embellish. Okay. I'll try not to. Mr. Williams, you previously served as assistant principal at Big Bear High School during the 2021 2022 school year and we are excited to have him return uh this time our as our new executive director of 612 curriculum and
008certificated personnel. Since his time with us, Brian has continued to grow as an educational leader, most recently serving as principal at Rim Unified School District from 2022 to 2025. Throughout his career, he has demonstrated a deep commitment for fostering student success through strate strategic leadership, curriculum development, professional learning, and personal personnel management. Brian brings with him a strong background in developing and leading professional learning communities with a focus on datadriven instruction, continuous improvement, and collaborative problem solving. His work has led to measurable gains in student outcomes and stronger instructional practice districtwide. He has also been proactive advocate for inclusion, inclusive education, designing and implementing initiatives that support the diverse needs of all students through differentiated instruction and targeted professional development. He has cultivated learning environments where every student is empowered to succeed both academically and
009socially. Please join us in welcoming back u Brian to our Bear Valley family. We are confident that his experience, passion, and dedication will contribute meaningfully to our district's continued growth and success. We are very excited. We haven't yet. I know. I don't know. I sound like chap. Not not that specific. All right. Can make it a motion to approve. John second. All in favor? I none opposed. [Applause] Welcome. You put the angle bracelet on now. Yes. By our pastor. That's why theyather. [Music] It's been decided that Heather Raven cannot make eye. We just need him to stay. Great. No, thank you guys very much for welcoming me back as a family. I really enjoyed my time here at Fair Valley. Um, you know, I left for family reasons to be down at RIM and and
010you know, I'm excited to have the opportunity to come back in this capacity and I'm just really excited to see where the district moves from here. So, thank you very much. Thank you. All right. This is really good news cuz poor Manny and the rest of the team have been uh doing double duty. Yeah. Do doing double duty and uh Brian's professionalism. It's going to be amazing. Um, we we've had some meetings and recently and we're like, man, I wish Brian was here. Yeah. All right. Um, next is superintendent report. Back to you. Absolutely. Um, okay. We got to visit uh Jess and I went down to to visit high trails today. And just to remind the board with high trails, we agreed to also pay the portion they had not made for the to
011pay for it, we pay for it out of ELO funding. We'd like to continue that as well with ELO funding because it does fall under the ELO umbrella to be able to pay. It's a lot of money to for these students who go to highros. Jess had never got been able to see it. So, we went down there and her daughter was there. U we it was a lot of fun. It was great to see the kids and and what they put together that down there. I visited before. Every single student there was having just a wonderful time being kind to each other. They are a different people when they're in that environment and it was wonderful to see Justin really enjoyed that visit. On our way back, we also got to stop by and
012see the Northshore playground that's going into place. That's a huge celebration for Northshore because of what was lost back when the county building was put into place when that was lost. And there's still broken hearts over when they took that playground out. So, the fact that the board has voted and decided to to put that back into play. Um, and once again, we were able to validate that under ELO funding that to put that PL playground back into play where they did it, where they put it. They really utilize the space. Well, Craig did a great job in utilizing that space to still have the the little track for the students that was not ruined. And they had a stage right there, a little concrete stage that was not touched, but they utilized all the
013dirt areas, the grass areas. So, it was wonderful. I was really excited to see that today. Um, track meet, if you didn't know, the track meet community, everyone needs to know this is the first day we had a track meet at Big High School. That was a huge deal for this district, for this uh community to be able to have that. We've always had, you know, it was exciting with football and with soccer, but we've been able to host those games at MER. We've never been able to host track and field. Reality is we all know because of high altitude what we breed in this town is runners. We have championship runners that come out of us. So it was so awesome to see. I know some of the board members went as well. But
014it was wonderful to see and and see it in full swing. Everyone was excited. There was a good energy. And then tomorrow um Big Bear Middle School will be utilizing the field and have their first tracking ever ever because they just they just developed their track and field team. So they've never had a team before. So, it came right in time as the everything was being built. So, they're able to It just worked out that they'll I don't know if it'll always work out that way, but it worked out that Chrissy and her team get to have and Sam Swanson, everyone that put this together, get to hold a track meet at Big Bear High School at our new stadium. So, that's a huge celebration that was exciting for the district this week. Um, we
015had our TK orientation. We're getting all set for next year, looking at numbers, trying to position where everyone's going. um websites. We are currently in the process of developing the websites for the new websites because we're going to move into that new company that's that's also parenting with parents square where everything's going to go a lot smoother. Um we of course enlisted enlisted for Hunter Natik from the high school because of his gift with some of what he can create because with the new websites they look much more professional like you might go into a website to see a video a silent video in the background rather than just random pictures. So, he's going to be doing some drone shots, different things, so that we're ready to go on when they turn that thing on
016on July 1st is when we turn it on and make the our new websites go live. Um, it'll have videos for each site. So, this site's not responsible for trying to throw pictures in there, by the way. We'll have video on every single website. So, that's going to be great. I think it's going to look a lot more professional, everything about it. We're cleaning up our websites now, trying to delete things that don't exist. Um, some of that stuff is pretty old on some of our websites that we needed some cleaning. So, we went through that process. Um, last thing, we had a great parent advisory meeting this week. I would like to once again thank them uh for all their input. They are a chatting group and I love them for it. So, that's
017always an awesome experience with them. Uh, last thing, I did a high school visit last week and it was, I would say, probably one of the best visits I've ever done at the high school. Every classroom, it was fun to see the engagement in the classroom, watching, you know, Mr. events and watching socratic seminars and different things that was happening in the classrooms was really wonderful to see the engagement um was really to a high level that I had a great time and enjoy being a part of. I really appreciate it. Otherwise, that's it for me. nice as governing board member. But I need to warn you, when your daughter gets back, she's going to be super tired and probably I I've had three go through it. My fourth didn't because the end of co
018they cancelled. So, but yeah, it's it's a really cool opportunity that the kids going to that camp. Yeah, I was kind of anticipating that though that last, you know, coming home like, oh, she's gonna be ready to rest be done. But yeah, they were all having a great time today. It was so cool to see that. Yeah, it's a great program. Um, I'm just going to say this coming Monday, um, April 21st, um, I'll be representing Be Valley at the, um, Sanjona County School Boards Association, uh, spring awards. So, Education Medal of Honor and Distinguished Service Awards. Um it's in Montana on Monday night, so I'll report on that. But anyway, but um yeah, looking forward to that. That's awesome. Uh track meet today, like Mandy said, was awesome. I never I hadn't been on
019track meet in years, and I forgot that you had nine different schools there. So, it's really neat seeing parents from nine different schools and students from nine different schools and so much goes on at once. you know, you have discus and the shot put and the long jump and running events and a few other things I'm probably missing uh all going on at the same time. So, it's a great great uh event to go out there if you want to go watch it. I also noticed on my way walking back, most likely because it is track and field and running events, that the line for the bathroom was pretty long, although we have a lot of portaotties. I think that's anyone who's done any kind of racing before, uh that's that's somewhat common, but it
020got me thinking about our bathroom and where we're at as far as putting that in. If I'm not mistaken, we're having plans drawn and trying to get Okay, so the plans are drawn up. I can let Jess I'll let Jess do her job. Sorry. We actually have plans that are ready to go to DSA, but because we have those other a numbers open, that's our rush right now is to get those closed out so that we can submit. But once we have those closed out, we can our plans are ready and we've submitted for those for one of them at least to be closed out. Correct. Um, yes, the science labs are closed out. I believe that's done. um every every it's just those last forms and we have some on our end the architect's
021end the contractor. So that takes a little bit of time but other than that everything's done for the science labs. So we're just waiting on the track um for the that last piece of the stadium project and the uh um the seismic bracing for the for the gas. But the seismic bracing because we have to go. We think if we have the track done, we should be able to submit off the seismic break knowing that that's a longer term thing to get the seismic bracing done. We should be able to submit once the track in correspondence. And again, you you don't know, but it came to mind that when the time does come, I'm going to be very interested and I think it's going to be very important for us to understand what the true
022price is going to be. Cuz I heard someone today who is a huge furnisher person and he had $60 million of stuff coming to shore, furnishings from China, and had to bring in $85 million check in addition to the 60 million to pay the 145 or 140% tariff. say $2 million bathroom and storage and concession place. It's going to be a different decision if it turns into a $5 million project. We'll keep that. We'll keep a tight look on that as we especially as we're going to go out to bid for it. And the understanding of if there's a way we could lock in a price. I don't know if they're going to do that or would allow that or but there has to be some kind of protection when you have no idea what's
023going to happen the next week. Yeah, agree. I don't want to get stuck with a $2 million project that's going to be $5 million. I guess the appeal is like if it's cinder block, most cinder blocks are domestically made in the Inland Empire, right? It's what are the things going to be that have to be important, but it's still going to be inflationary for all those things. Miss Mark, do you have any? No, I don't. Thank you. Um, I wanted to touch on a couple things. Uh, went to the track meet today and that was really cool. Um, and I talked to parents from other schools and they were um, talking about how beautiful the facility is and and it was great and they liked that we hosted it. Um, it was people from Riverside
024and um, uh, like Hisperia Victorville that I talked to. So, it was it was pretty cool. Um, but part of that was we got the parent square notification at lunchtime today, which was cool, telling everyone about the track me. Okay. Um, which which was great. And I don't know which one was first, but then we got the one on dress code from the parents square. And as a parent of two high schoolers, I'm glad we did that because it's getting a little out of hand with how some of the kids are dressing and and I'm glad that we pushed out the policy. And if we need to look at that again, fine. But um it's school. It's not uh people need to dress appropriately for this topic has come up a couple times in a
025day like this week and when we address it with the administration um I will give them credit. You know there's things to work out when we when we start to reinforce a policy that's already in place the policy is already in place as far as in the in the handbook and we can always readress that and look at it making sure we're in line but and wording things like that but I think we should u but I think it is the right move. we need to go back to this is this is what we put in our handbook. This is what policy. So, whoever did it, I don't know if it's Tina, thanks for putting that out. That was um next administration administrative reports policy 5145 motivated behavior. Okay, we're going to go into discussion.
026If you guys want to hang out for the discussion, you're good. Brian, give them to your family. Okay. And do they have copies of you can but no one will you and they um have copies of these? Uh that was attached to the agenda item. Oh, okay. Okay. So, you know, this was upon request, you know, kind of agreed upon all of us. So, we want to revisit and look at this um board policy. When I looked at board policy, board policy pretty much covers that's usually what board policy should do. Board policy should do as far as look at the over the overreaching and what we want to make sure we we decide in hate speech or hate motivated behavior is spelled out. I think what we want what I'd like to look at
027and just have a discussion with the board on is some of our our student handbooks is where we get to the meat a little bit more as far as what exactly specifically is our standard and what are we going to do about it should we see hate motivated speech or behavior. I what I put in front of you what I attached to the agenda is the two samples of the it's it was in your agenda attached to the agenda is the two samples of what the middle school and the high school what it looks like as far as their policies are concerned. They were a little bit different. Um, so we kind of added some we added some specific language on exactly what it is to make sure it's in so somebody doesn't have to
028go forward policy and find what hate hate speech or hate uh behavior is, but rather specifically spell it out in the handbook and specifically say that we can expel or suspend even on the first offense. and how we look at that and that way it gives because there's going to be situations you know and even and even discussing it we have the discussion with our whole leadership team when I say leadership team that's everyone all the managers because we trying to set a standard as a district I brought before leadership team there was no objections on wanting to get a little bit more firm on how we look at hate speech and then we also discussed it with the principles individually on how they wanted to look at it and they were good with understanding
029that we were going to support them in the fact of what happens on the first offense, second offense, and some of it could be circumstantial. But when we have to also making sure we communicate this properly with our families, it's not always community. You know, it's in here, but who reads it? Just like when you got the notification, the reminder about the dress code. We need to make sure we communicate this. Again, just as a reminder, any hate speech is can be an automatic suspension or expulsion. any hate speech or hate behavior. And we want to make that clear. What I put in front of you is a draft of what we're how how we'd like to change, especially now with as we're in the student handbooks. Um, and extended a little bit. It's just
030basically stating what hate, speech, and violence is. Um, and then at the bot, and you know that you know what that is. And then any student in grades 4 through 12 inclusive who engages in either harassment or hate speech and violence may be recommended for suspension or expulsion on even the first offense if the superintendent or the principal of the school in which the pupil is enrolled determines that the pupil has caused attempted cause and threat you know participate in an act of hate speech violent as defined by the above. Basically, um, we're trying to be more specific and intentional about what we're doing and helping the conversation. That's not it, though. That this is this is the piece of it. We don't want to be here. That's stick. We're secure. Yes. Thank you, sir.
031So, that's what we're trying to look at now. Uh, I know Chrissy and her team has done a good job. Now, we're trying to find what we do to address it, not just at the beginning of the year, but regularly because we are still students and they need to be have reminders. Unfortunately, we know what we're battling. We're battling social media. We're battling music and the other influences that come from everywhere. And sometimes and even on regular media, okay, hate speech becomes normalized at some point. hate hate speech that's originally a hateful word suddenly becomes a friendly word just because they said it in a certain context. We're decide I I believe and I believe the board is under the same impression. We want to just end it all and say it's unacceptable to use
032those type of terms and words on our campuses. We want to make everyone feel safe. We want to make sure we're being inclusive of everybody here. Um, so what we'd like to do is we're talking this is takes a little bit longer as far as with us as a group with Leanne and I looking at this with the principles going what do we bring in now? We're looking for videos. We're looking a whole bunch of things. We're looking for speakers right now who we'd like to have come in as speakers once a year to both sites at a minimum to the middle and high school to have speakers come in. Not just speakers but people to share their experiences. Okay. Um because just being honest with the group, you know, we had and we had
033conversations with some of our families that it was tough to hear their how they feel within the community, within school, things like that as far as being a minority family and recognizing that is important. And it's always to the point to say we can do better. I believe we've improved. I believe as a community we are wonderful and as a as a district we're wonderful. But I believe that we're what we're trying to address right now is how do we be better now? How do we teach our students and everyone that what they see on the media in social media um or in music? It does not mean that's a normalized behavior and we'd like to be able to introduce that. That's going to take a little bit more time as far as implementing something
034longterm in the schools to see what programs are out there because a lot of the programs we have are programs that are social emotional programs. They address it a little bit. Uh we'd like a stronger stance. We need I believe we need to get speakers in smaller groups because we had that discussion too with some of the students what what it would look like in smaller groups. I'm going to have this discussion as well with my student leadership at the high school as well. I want their input. That's why I'm not ready to say some of the things because I'd like everybody's input on this. I'd like their view. I have not had this conversation with the superintendent council, uh, student council at the high school. I want their view on it, too. What do
035they see? Um, I'd like Chrissy's to discuss that with her council. What the kids see at their school is the problem. One of the other issues, reporting. Students will not report. We need a safer place to report. Anonymous reports, I understand, but sometimes those are hard to track and then we have no viable witnesses. What we try to encourage students to do is email. We'll keep your name anonymous. Email the principal or the vice principal. But that's a process of trust. I will say if you choose not to use your name, but we need something to investigate. We need some kind of information to be able to investigate. That way if more than one person heard somebody use the word use a term whatever the action was we have something to investigate that we need
036to put in place as well. What safeguards we have we tip and we tip is out there. The reality is is how do we make it's a bigger issue. How do we make kids comfortable reporting? We want to end it but we know it's going to happen still sometimes. How do we make kids comfortable reporting? I'm I'm skeptical on that being a parent of minority kids that you're never going to get them to to come forward because you know my kids are Asian. There's a half a dozen in each school. Yeah. Agreed. You're they're just going to become a bigger target. So of course they're not going to say anything because they're going to make it worse for themselves. and their friends that are also minorities of different backgrounds. You're not going to get the
037kids to talk about the other kids saying racial racial attitudes or whatever it is. It's I don't know. I think I think you're right in the fact that the only way to do it is that's why I'm looking for the emotional impact of it. helping students realize that other people's experiences other people's experiences in schools, in community, out in public, all those things. That's why we're looking more for speakers to come in. You know John Bidwell one day did a John Bidwell one of our firefighters up here did a presentation when they were talking about fentanyl one night and even John said you know until we get when they were discussing fent until you we create the emotion in the students that's the only start point we have an impact when we can reach them
038emotionally I think that's when the impact starts when they realize the impact it has on families and people and human beings or our culture it's a bigger picture because I agree with you Mr. Robertson said it's going to be to get Yeah, we always want to leave an open communication that hoping kids once in a while will say something. We also know that's not our middle school and high school world in any school. And part of it is people like to feel like we're kind of on a ivory tower up here where things are great and and you know that's part of the reason that I decided after retiring from the Air Force to move here is it's where I grew up. But the first time I heard racial epithets in person was at Big
039Bear High School when in 1990 or 1989 when the first time I heard it, Mike Linquist was standing right next to me and we talked about it at length after that. Hey, this guy's no good. And then, you know, you'd think, okay, that things like that will cure over time. I've told you about it yesterday. I had someone that grew up and graduated like 15 years after me use a racial eth. Gosh. And and it's just and they know that I have minority children that would say something like that. It's stupid. And the only way to fix it is education. So, you know, the sooner we can have our and I'm using long term, but the diversity program that's mandated by the state, the um curriculum that we have to provide, what's it called? Ethnic
040studies, ethnic studies, the sooner we can provide that nth grade, whatever, and maybe have a light version in middle school that's only going to do good things for our kids. And you know, because they're going to go out into the world and say stupid stuff like that. You do that in LA, you could end up dead and or you If you're like me, you join the military and you say stuff like that, you'll end up kicked out. There's beyond zero tolerance in in the military for crap like that. And we could look at how we look at that as a cabinet to have that discussion and maybe we need to bring in the social studies teachers who help develop that curriculum. Okay, how do we make this palable for a young grade level at sixth
041grade agree that if we're going to do something that I think sixth grade would be our place to go because we need to start reinforcing and part of it is us collectively as parents and teachers not having our heads in the sand thinking oh no it's perfect here because I can tell you based on the experience my children have had it's And like I said, I love us. I think we're the most wonderful thing and I couldn't imagine being anywhere else in this district or community. But we can always be better. We can be better. And this is how we we prove it. Like you said, through education, how we that as a cabinet, what we look through and I know, like I said, uh Dr. Francisco, and I know Chris spent hours scouring what
042can we offer, what speakers, it's hard this time of year to bring in people to be booked up. Um, but I even if we look at that, put this in policy, making sure and start to communicate that with parents, be firm and taking advantage on back to school nights when we do our little title one speech. We have everybody in there all the ones. Okay, let's make the couple hot points, you know, cell phones and we're going to the hate speeches. We're going to end this as a community. We're asking everybody to come together. We're asking everyone to, you know, it's kind of a t arms on this one and say that we're going to be do this together as a community, not just as a school district, but as a community that we can
043do better. I think that's where we start as the beginning of the year, make it clear, but then keep the reminders up during throughout the school year. In the meantime, also look at what curriculum, what what's in our curriculum currently and how do we how what can we do to expand on that to ensure we're trying to find something to help kids associate with somebody who is different than themselves on any level. And like I said, I don't care what this we've talked about this in um my principles and we're all under the same thing. It doesn't matter. We're not talking about one word. We're not talking about one race. There's there's words and horrible horrible slang words for every single race of people. And we want to make sure we're acknowledging that as well.
044Not just talking about two groups or three groups. We're talking about making sure we're ending a certain type of culture and speech that doesn't happen. I don't want to say that it's uh I don't want anyone to believe that it's a massive prevalent problem. The only thing we're trying to do is making sure we're controlling within our microcosm of our little world here that we're able to try to do something better and teach our students here something better. Well, it prepares them. It's part of fortitude of a graduate prepares them to be functional in the world. Yes, it does. Yes, it does. Um, any input on that? I I welcome you guys to kind of look at that what we had before. I just want to make sure we open up the conver if you
045guys had any com conversation about what We're looking at possibly putting this is what we still have to represent this to the principles because um Leanne helped me put this together as far as what it looks like and um and Laura actually helped with this too to make sure what we're looking at and I'm glad we decided to put reating the law the rules in there what hate speech is that way we're aware of what we're having consequences for. If there's any other input that we feel like we need to be any more specific, we're welcome to take the Thank you. Good job on this. I think it's very very well written. Well said. And I like that it it cites codes and you know looked this a lot of ways. The way biggest way
046I look at this is it's reminding people to be kind, which is something that has been forgotten. as of late in a lot of places. So, well, I think the the the other element of it as she was just mentioning, I love the idea of bringing in speakers to talk to students and starting at a younger age to kind of have them really I mean develop empathy for another human being and show kindness and understanding and sometimes that can only happen when you really have that personal connection. is you have to you have to try to reach somebody emotionally. Yeah. You have to teach empathy. Yeah. I I know that I was one of the people who was pushing this and suggesting it and it was because of that when I had a person who
047looked me in the eye and said, "I'm moving from the community because this is what I've experienced and this is what I've experienced in these schools." And to understand and to feel what they went through and to you can't get away. It's so easy when you see it on TV or you hear it on the radio or some talking head who's trying to get you to think what they want you to think, but to see another human being sit in front of you and tell you that story, you know, especially one-on-one, I mean, it's powerful and you're like, we can do better than this. We can do way better than this. I would like to thank you board for being so supportive with this and the the principles are supportive. Everyone's on board knowing that
048what our goals are part details. I thought it was your glasses. All right. Too heavy. Item 15, suggestions for future meeting agendas. We'll adjourn the