CUSD Board Meeting 4-23-25

001It is 6 pm and we are reconvening from close session. During close session on a motion by trustee Emory and a second by trustee Seosi by unanimous vote 50, the board took action to to reject claim 25-06215, a government claim against Carlsbad Unified School District. During close session on a motion by Trustee Ward and a second by Trusty Verbbeth by unanimous vote of 50, the board took action to appoint Dr. Andrea Norman as the superintendent of the Carlsbad Unified School District. And we'd like to welcome uh Dr. Norman and we will um have more discussion uh during agenda item 7.1. Welcome to the public uh board members and staff. Thank you for attending. As noted in board bylaw 9324, this meeting is being video recorded and a broadcast via a link on our website. The

002recording and broadcast may capture images and sounds of those attending the meeting. I'd like to remind audience members and speakers that it is not unusual for students and young children to be in attendance at our meetings or to watch the recorded broadcast. I invite you to model civility and decorum as we go about the business of the board this evening. While I cannot prohibit anyone from using unprofessional language, please think about the students and adults who are watching our proceedings. We invite you to show support for a speaker by waving your fingers rather than clapping or cheering. Our board representative uh could not attend this evening, so I will be leading us in the pledge of allegiance. Trustee Ward will read from the district vision and Miss Garcia will take the role. Our graduates are

003prepared for success. They confidently move move to life beyond high school knowing they have acquired the requisite skills and knowledge. They have a passion for learning and personal growth. They can thrive in a high-tech environment. They are compassionate. Thank you. And we will now take role. Trustee Sioce here. Trustee Emory here. Trusty Verbat here. Trusty Ward here. Trusty Rawlings here. Thank you. We now move on to part four, approval of the agenda. Trustees, are there any questions? No questions. May have a motion to approve agenda item 4.1, approval andor reorganization of the April 23, 2025 meeting agenda. So moved. Trusty Emory second. Uh we'll say uh Trusty Emory had the first and trusty verbth had the second. And there any discussion? No discussion. Miss Garcia, please call for a vote. Trusty COC. Yes. Trustee Emory.

004Yes. Trusty Verbath. Yes. Trusty Ward. Yes. Trusty Rawlings. Yes. Motion passes five to zero. Thank you. We now want move on to part five. Uh communication. Uh part one 5.1 report of this uh student representative um she was unable to or student representative was unable to attend. So we'll move on to the next item. Uh 5.2 report from CUC PTA president. There is none. Okay. We'll move on to um we now move on to item 5.3 report by CEO of Carl'sb Educational Foundation. 2023 24 annual report is published on our website and now each of you have a copy um and please enjoy reading through that. Um, so as we're looking to what we're currently doing, CF is in the midst of our busiest season. Um, the deadline for CUSD teachers and district to submit

005grants to the foundation um is this coming April 27th. Uh, the committee will then review all the grant requests and we will have um the notifications out to the district before the end of the school year so that teachers, faculty, staff can plan for the 2025 school year. Additionally, our senior scholarship interview process is underway. Uh we had over 80 applicants for the CEF senior scholarships which is um over double from what we had last year and I have to say the quality of candidates cannot be understated. Um the committee is going to have a difficult time um working through these applicants and scholarships recipients will be notified at their respective school senior awards evenings. Um we expect to give over $60,000 in scholarships this year for the summer programs. The demand has increased and

006as I have shared previously, we are experiencing record enrollment. Families interested in summer programs really need to enroll right away. Um half of our specialty half-day camps have reached capacity and um we have not reached capacity for our full day summer adventure program, but we do expect to. So again, families that need care this summer are really encouraged to enroll right away. Um, we're also excited to share with you that we have a new program that we are going to be partnering with the district to offer an extended day for the summer language academy that is going to take place run by the district at Jefferson Elementary School. So, we are going to take over when the program ends and offer an extended day for families and offer some of the same programs that we're

007doing at our summer adventure camp so the kids can have a really super fun summer at summer at um Jefferson as well. The program does not run on Fridays and so we are running a program for those kiddos on Fridays as well and we'll be doing a field trip every single Friday for the summer for them and right now we have about 50 students coming per day. Additionally, I have mentioned a couple of times to you about our summer academy. Um I want to point out to everyone listening that our PE program, the deadline to enroll is rapidly approaching in about two weeks. The program begins before the school year ends on May 19th and students must be enrolled by May 9th to solidify a spot for that online program. And our academic courses, families

008have a little bit more time for our geometry and our Spanish 123. Those programs will start during the summer. And then last but not least, I of course have to give a plug for our gala. Tickets are still available. Um I know everyone in this room, I know everyone listening online cares a great deal about our students. Um, this is a very fun way to give back to the community. And so I just encourage everyone if you're sitting here and you're like, I'm not a gala gal or guy, you guys. You might be. So give yourself a chance. Um, and if you are not going to be able to attend, please tell a friend, neighbor, another parent, um, and help us spread the word. Thanks so much. Thank you. Uh, we now move on to

009item 5.4, report by Leyuna President. Okay, we'll move on to um 5.5 report from CUDA president. Good evening, President Rawlings, trustees, cabinet members, colleagues, and community members. My name is Rachel Marino Watt, and I'm honored to speak to you tonight as the president of the Carlsbad Teachers Union representing the dedicated educators who show up for our our students every day. I'd like to start with a note of excitement. Cuda will once again be participating in the spring Carlsbad Street Fair on May 4th where we'll be giving away free books to children our can in in our community. It's one of our favorite ways to connect with families and support literacy in a fun, engaging way. Tomorrow we begin our bargaining sessions with the district. As always, we approach this process in good faith, looking forward

010to productive conversations about the real challenges our educators face and to working collaboratively with the district to find meaningful solutions. Looking ahead, I'm also eager for the opportunity to work with our incoming superintendent. I've heard many positive things about Dr. Norman from people I know and respect, most notably that she is fair and deeply committed to listening and learning. Thank you to the board for your thoughtful work in choosing someone to lead our district into the future. As we enter this new chapter with bargaining ahead and new leadership on the horizon, I want to share something I said during the superintendent search process. Our educators aren't just looking for a leader who listens. We need someone who hears. Too often, teachers feel their voices are acknowledged, but their concerns remained unressed. Carl'sb is full of

011extraordinary people. People who work hard, adapt quickly, and pull off small miracles every single day. People who deserve to be truly heard. As teachers often do, I'd like us to also consider the voices of our students, especially those who may not always feel seen or safe. Some of our transgender and our questioning students face unique challenges. National data reminds us that these students experience higher rates of bullying and feelings of unsafety at school. That should concern all of us because every child deserves to feel safe, welcomed, and valued on our campuses. And while passionate discussions happen in this room, we must be careful that our words never contribute to a sense of fear or exclusion for any group of students. Let's make sure our actions and conversations reflect a commitment to inclusion and compassion. Teachers

012have always been on the forefront of that mission. We'll keep showing up, advocating, and doing the work, but we cannot do it alone. If we truly want to protect our children, we must do so together with honesty, with heart, and with a shared sense of purpose. Thank you for your time. Thank you. And we now move on to item 5.6, superintendent report. Eric Schmidt, I would just like to congratulate our trustees in selecting your next superintendent, our next superintendent, Dr. Andrea Norman. I did acknowledge this last month, but I'd like to do it again. The extraordinary retirement effort that you put in um getting to the selection of Dr. Norman was unbelievable. Five special meetings on top of dozens of hours outside of the meetings, including one whole weekend. I don't know how many hours

013that was, but it was 15 or 18 hours throughout that process. Thank you, Dr. Norman. Looking forward to transitioning with you and uh congratulations. Thank you. And we now move on to item 5.7, public comment on non-aggenda items. This is the time that members of the public have the opportunity to address the board on any non-aggendaized item that is within the subject matter jurisdiction of the board. How many blue cards have been received for non-aggenda items? So, President Rawlings, we have 14, which then would drive us to the minute and 30 second limit per speaker. Thank you. In order to allow speakers to present their comments and ensure we are able to properly attend to the business of the board, per board bylaw 9323, public comments are limited to 20 minutes. In exceptional circumstances, when

014necessary to ensure full opportunity for public input, the board president may with board consent adjust the amount of time allowed for the public input and or the time allotted for each speaker. For this item, there are 14 speakers. Uh trustees, we um uh we will allow for one minute and um one minute and 30 seconds. Uh so each PE speaker can be heard prior to taking um taking any action. And our first speaker is um I'm gonna say last name is Aziz. Thank you so much. Uh good evening. Good evening staff and trustees. My name is Mala Kaziz and I'm an eighth grader at Calvary Hills Middle School. I'm here tonight to speak about racism occurring in our school district as well as insensitivity and lack of education on religion and ethnicities going on for

015a while now. I have I have been experiencing racism from others for a long time in our school district. And although I have tried my best to kindly educate and point others to sources where they could familiarize themselves, I believe the issue lies in the hands of the district. A lack of meaningful education on diverse religions, ethnicities, and even geography can result in can result in uh students being inclined to racism even if their intent is innocent. For example, years after 9/11, Muslims in schools are still being called terrorists and anyone from the Middle East is being classified as such. Even as a joke, these supposed jokes are harmful to my community and many others. Um, another example of insensitivity is from the article Learning for Justice that states that in 2018 we reported a

016disturbing number of incidents involving identity based slurs, hateful symbols, bigotry, and the harassment of children in schools. This hostility reflects what's happening outside of school walls and in our political and social media culture. I request that we create more classes or programs that promote diversity education along with more measures to prevent and address harassment based on race, religion, or ethnicity. Education is key to removing ignorance and our district should play a central role in making that effort. Thank you. Thank you for comments. Thank you. Um, next speaker is uh Mike Bonello. That's Mike Burllo. So uh welcome Dr. Norman, welcome. Uh, I just have one ask and it has to do with, uh, getting back to basics, right? I was told in the corporate world never to use a slogan because you can never live

017up to it or it gets misconstrued. But I've got a good one. So, teach the core, nothing more. And we need to bring back the basics. We need to focus on the basics rather than a lot of the peripheral stuff going on. reading and writing proficiency. So in the nation right now, 21% of adults, 43 million people are below the literacy level. Mathematics, 8th grade is ranked 20 globally. Weak foundational skills, poor problem solving, number system, knowledge gaps. 26% of eth grade prof non-proficient in math. You're listening up Dr. Nye the curriculum guy, right? It's important to go back to basics. History. I think when I was a kid, I didn't learn history as well as I should have. We need to bring back history. And I'm running out of time, so I'm going to

018go to science. Physics first curriculum. That was uh led by Lean Leman years ago. He died. Uh kids need to know what science really is, and they're not. And they have a lot of misconceptions about science. and some misconceptions. Thank you. Next speaker is Scott [Music] Davidson. I'm here in support of the free speech rights of our school community, the right of students to discuss controversial topics, their right to invite speakers to discuss those topics, and the right of parents to participate in those discussions. But while it seems the entire audience supports these rights, the district apparently does not. When parents asked what the director of a gender clinic and a self-described BDSM subject matter expert would be talking about during ally week at Sage Creek, a community event for all of the Sage Creek

019community to attend at lunch. The school suddenly didn't want to speak and they canled the speaker. The parents who raised this issue never asked for that and there are plenty of us here who clearly want to talk about these issues. If you really want to prepare students for the real world, you should prepare them to have difficult conversations, hear different points of view, and learn how to solve our problems together. What this incident represents is a failure by our district to protect our rights and prepare our students for the future. We all deserve better. Next speaker is Mrs. Strange. It seems corruption points to the teachers union leadership. That's you, President Rawlings. Also a California Teachers Association employee. As a gay woman in the rainbow community, I think maybe you and the English teacher pushing

020kink on kids ought to get the handcuffs out. Be together forever in jail. Ms. Rawlings, vet your speakers, inform parents, and stop funneling kids from the classroom to the operation room. This cannot, this fetish can not only cost the district millions of dollars, but you too could be held personally liable. Some people in here will say, I've heard this, pedophilia is a gender. Some even say it's free speech. No, it's a felony. Next speaker, please use your fingers. Thank you. Um Katrina Wy. Hello. Katrina Widick, a parent of actual kids in this district and an actual resident of Carl'sbad and homeowner and also a teacher. Excuse the signs. Um I didn't feel that this was a welcoming environment for my GSA students. And yes, I'm also a GSA co-advisor. I wanted to thank the district

021staff and board members for their support of ALA week GSA club at Sage Creek. I was able to attend the Friday community event. Unfortunately, I didn't see a lot of these people here at that event either, but it was a wonderful event having students stand up and share their stories really bravely. And that's the magic of schools where you can have kids who are empowered, who can speak up, take action, and bring people together. And I see that every week in my hallway when the Christian club invites their pastors to come as guest speakers to their club meetings, when Mana Club invites Latino women as business leaders as guest speakers, and yes, even GSA invites guest speakers. It just seems though that GSA is the only club being targeted and questioned about their guest speakers

022because the same amendments, the same ED codes, the same district policies, and the same processes that those clubs use to bring in guest speakers are the same ones that GSA uses as well. And I'm sure there's also a lot of attorneys who would like to provide some insight on ensuring that students have their First Amendment rights. Thank you. Thank you. Next speaker is Jean Walker. Hi, I received an email from the Democratic Club of Carlsbad and Oceanside regarding an issue of great concern to me, the First Amendment and a speaker at Sage Creek High School whose rights may have been violated. According to the Secretary of State's website, this speaker's company is currently prohibited from doing business in California. So, I hope the school did not contract with them to pay them money. I was

023very surprised to find the speaker's website advertises workshops in kink 101 and examining self-injurious behavior, erotic play, and body modification. This speaker clearly advertises an expertise in issues far beyond what teens are prepared for. I know for myself, I am not okay with a speaker like this uh being scheduled. It has nothing to do with gender or sexual orientation. It has to do with the responsibility to provide appropriate highquality speakers for campus events. The Demco email intimates that people can't even have their own thoughts on this issue, even providing a template for residents from outside Carlsbad to send to the school board. And astonishingly, that template encourages the school district to prohibit any student contact with one of the district's parents absent a court order. Are you kidding me? I am sure you receive many

024cop copy and paste versions of this template. I am sure many of the people who sent it didn't read the template long enough and have no idea they're asking you to violate. Thank you. Next speaker is Patrick Elgar. Uh, Aggerero. So, uh, it's it Carl'sbad, you guys are you guys are awesome. You guys, you know, you have a 10 out of 10 school, uh, score for, uh, grades. Um, I come from a OD school district where they have a score of six out of 10. You guys are 30 points above in math, science, and reading over USD, which is awesome. The graduation rate at OSD is 89%. Your guys is 95. You guys are doing a great job. It's so uh it's refreshing to come into a district like this. Uh your your teacher to

025student ratio is 22 to1. My wife and I have been going to OSD schoolboard meetings for three years. Um sounds like you guys made your decision, unfortunately. But never once did uh Andrea Norman did she ever stand up for the parents or ask them for their concerns. Never once does she offer advice how to fix the grades. Never once does she offer help to get the porn out of the libraries. Never once did she advocate for kids. Not once did we ever hear her speak for up for kids. And um never once did she fight for the kids to learn the constitution of the Bill of Rights. Uh she was a mentor of Julie Vatitali who was just a disaster. We call her Dr. dread over in OD. And um I just really hope that

026you guys and the parents of Carl'sbad hold her accountable because in my opinion, I hope to God you guys didn't make a bad decision because uh you guys are you guys have a score again of 10 out of 10 out of the state and this is from public schooled.com. So please keep your eyes on her that she doesn't bring your district down because you know I just I just Thank you. Uh Rosie Alggera. Yes. So to echo that sentiment, Andrea Norman, it was a huge disappointment for the last three years that never once did you advocate for the children or listen to the community. You guys actually weaponized the the attorneys and sent letters to us because we were holding you guys accountable and you know all of this is true. So, I hope that

027you have the moral courage to do the right thing because they're giving you a chance here. And I hope that you're not an extension of Max Disposidian, Dr. Julie Vatelli here trying to trans kids. And the other thing I wanted to address was the Satanist that Sarah Hunter, a teacher and an activist here in your school district, thought it was prudent to allow an entire week to sexualize and indoctrinate innocent children with our tax dollars. That's horrible. This man, Mea Beach, Satanist into bondage, domination, Sato masochism. His page is horrific with torture devices. And he's also the gender director clinic from the gender clinic. And you guys invited him to speak with vulnerable kids. That is disgusting. And that is child abuse. That's horrible. You should never have a person like that around children. You

028guys have a constitutional oath to uphold all of the laws and you have a duty to protect the children and these are predators that you are allowing to come onto the school grounds to speak with kids about what uh say. Thank you. Next speaker is Paul Hanosh. Good evening, uh, esteemed board members and future superintendent. Welcome. Um, I wanted to address a few issues and concerns that I have. I do live in the district and um I would like to know if this new superintendent will avoid promoting the liberal teachers union agenda um and instead keep politics out of the classroom and focus on the district's two fiduciary duties to ensure student learning and keep a balanced budget. Are you willing to dismantle the divisive and discriminatory DEI CRT programs of the prior administration? DEI

029creates and amplifies prejuditial hostility and exacerbates interpersonal conflict and needs to be rescended in order to avoid the possibility of losing federal funding, let alone the harm it causes to our learning environment. In 2021, Oklahoma banned CRT and DEI because of Ruter's research found that DEI training actually increases prejudice and people are more likely after enduring this training to express viewpoints um that Adolf Hitler actually advocated. It does not appeal to our better nature but accuses anyone who disagrees that America is systematically racist as next speaker is Jolene Vananiel. Hi, my name is Jolene. I'm a resident of Carlsbad and parent to three in the district two at Sage Creek. I want to start by saying I've had no issue with ally week in the years past. My daughters are classmates, teammates, and friends with

030GSA members, and I'm happy to have them show support for their classmates and join them at ally lunch event if they so choose. However, when the school allows unvetted speakers from an organization which promotes controversial and unsafe healthcare and medical practices, and how to access gender affirming care without parental knowledge or consent, we've got a problem. The complete lack of transparency is most disturbing as the notification of the event was given only after pressure by a few of us parents and even then the announcement by principal way conveniently failed to mention the speakers and organization's presence. When we inquired about what the speakers would be presenting to the entire student body as this is not a closed club meeting but open to all and whether parents could attend, we were giving given conflicting messages. Providing

031transparency is key to building and ma maintaining trust between parents and school administration. And this certainly did not move us in that direction. There absolutely needs to be parental notification with full transparency if outside organizations are going to be allowed on campus even if done in a closed setting. And this includes parents rights to know who the speakers are, who they represent, what they are presenting, and what materials they are providing. The school was wise to cancel this particular individual's scheduled speaking engage engagement, but it should not have required. Thank you. Next speaker is Cara Boneno. Hello board members and future Superintendent Norman. Thank you for um having this meeting and hearing some of our feedback. Um, I'm here to ask and pretty much beg the district to be a partner with parents in our

032child's education. That doesn't just include the core curriculum, but that includes any speakers. Um, I'm in agreement that all groups should be able to meet on campus. However, if there's external speakers, we would like to know that they're properly vetted. In this case of Ally Week, I don't think they were properly vetted. I'm glad that students felt um confident and strong enough and safe enough to share their stories, but that's really not what was going on or what the intent of the speakers were. When you are having speakers come from clinics that provide gender affirming care often to minors without parental consent, that becomes a liability for the district, the school, and potentially even the GSA club adviser. Would you have a dentist coming in to offer root canals to minors? Would you have somebody

033from an abortion clinic coming in to tell details about where students could go and get abortions? Okay. Well, I don't think that that's appropriate. I'd like um I think somebody else mentioned the school uh district getting back to basics and to focus on the core reading, writing, and arithmetic. Um, I don't think that that's really been done and there seems to be a real push for social justice and anytime anybody speak. Thank you. Next speaker is Jen Bellnap. Thank you. May we have order, please? Order. Thank you. Next speaker is Jen Bellnap. Carl Carl'sbad resident and CUSD parent. Good evening. After the cultural revolution of the 60s, the Motion Picture Association recognized the need to build trust with parents and gain credibility in order to stave off censorship boards in response to public outcry. Since

0341968, the MPA has surveyed parents annually to determine American parents perceptions and expectations as they relate to movie content. The original goal was simple. quote, "Provide American parents with a reliable and easytouse tool to help them make viewing choices for their children while also protecting First Amendment rights of filmmakers and the creative process." Close quote. As we consider the Oh, sorry, that's from the 50th. webpage. As we consider the cultural conversation happening in our community and online, we need to frame the issue correctly. This is not about free speech. Rather, it is about determining what is age appropriate content and especially with regard to sensitive issues, whether or not parents will be notified of planned exposure to speakers, topics, or material that might infringe on their 14th amendment right to care, guide, and make healthc

035care decisions for their children. In Mirabelli versus Olsen, a San Diego federal judge sided with parents constitutional rights. And in Riverside, a California state court sided with parents rights, again saying parents rights are superior to a right of privacy belonging to their child. Any child showing up to purchase tickets for an R-rated movie would be required to have a parent or guardian present. Um, also to get a tattoo or even leave campus, you need or skydive, you need parent permission. Thank you. Next speaker is Hugh Ghart. Next speaker is Hugh Ghart. Well, this is a different rodeo than the last two. Uh, and I was going to talk about the missing golf cart for the baseball team that they grabbed three years ago and they promised to give it to us back and it's still

036missing. And as far as I'm concerned, I want to charge someone with theft, the head of the maintenance guy, but that's a different story. After listening to the people here, I mean, I taught for 30 years. Great thing about college is you pretty much run the show. They don't get caught on it. And they're right. Stick to basics. Stop the social engineering. Stop the people from always being offended by different things, too. This is just ridiculous. And I really support what I've heard tonight. And thanks for the people coming up here. Thank you. We need order, please. Order. Now, next speaker is Valencia [Music] Porter. Good evening, board members. Thank you for all the work that you do to support all of our students. My name is Valencia Porter. I'm a parent, a physician, and

037I am here as an advocate for compassion and inclusion. Recently, a parent in the district tried to create a climate of intimidation over a speaker invited by the Sage Creek GSA, publicly promoting false allegations, and potentially putting staff, students, and the guest speaker at risk. This attempt at silencing voices, creating further division and exclusion and potentially unsafe environment because they did not agree with the speaker's viewpoint only underscores the urgent need for our schools to visitly support all students, especially those who are LGBTQ plus. Therefore, I urge the board to agendaize the discussion and approval of flying the pride flag for the month of June. As a physician, I know that compassion and belonging aren't just nice ideals. They are essential to students mental health and academic success. Research from US schools shows that when

038students feel accepted and supported, they attend more regularly, perform better on tests, and are more likely to graduate. Isn't that what we're here for? Raising the pride flag for the month of June is more than a symbolic gesture. It's not about politics. It's about safety, belonging, and respect. I urge the board to take this important step and lead with compassion. Let us show our students that they belong here exactly as they are. Please agendaize raising the PL flag plag. Thank you. We now move on to part six, consent calendar. All matters listed on the consent calendar are considered by the board to be routine and will be enacted by the board in one motion. There will be no discussion on these items prior to the time the board votes on the motion unless there is

039a board request for one or more specific items to be removed from the consent calendar for discussion. Have any blue cards been received? We do not have any blue cards. Thank you. Trustees staff has advised that they are pulling agenda item 6.4. Dr. Nye will provide additional information. We have to wait for wait for him to provide additional information. He was going to do that because he pulled it right now. Yes. Right now. Yeah. Dr. Knight, if you could um wait. Uh trustees, are there any additional items to be pulled for discussion? No additional items. May I have a motion to approve the consent calendar with the exception of item 6.4? So moved. Verbbeck second ward. Thank you. Then um I'll ask for discussion on the pulled item. Dr. Nye. Thank you, President Rawlings, Trustees,

040and Superintendent Schmidt. Uh after reviewing the video recordings from the board study session, staff would like to pull the minutes uh from the consent calendar 6.4 for and bring them back at the May board meeting to more accurately reflect some of the direction given that evening. Staff will elaborate in more detail during the discussion action item which is later in the agenda in 7.4. Thank you. Thank you. Any other discussion on 6.4? Okay. Uh Miss Garcia, please call for a vote. Trusty Cosc. Trustee Emory. Yes. Trusty BBth. Yes. Trusty Ward. Yes. Trusty Rawlings. Yes. Motion passes five to zero. Thank you. We now move on to part seven, information discussion action item. Item 7.1, approval of superintendent employment agreement. Trustees, this is a discussion action item. The Brown Act requires the board prior to taking

041final action on an employment agreement to orally report a summary of a recommendation for the salary, salary schedules or compensation paid in the form of French benefits for local agency executives. The superintendent is a local agency executive and a proposed contract with Andrea Norman is before us this evening. The proposed contract will be for a term of approximately 3 years beginning on June 16th and ending June 30th, 2028. Dr. Norman will receive an annual salary of $285,000. She will receive the same health benefits available to other management employees, life insurance, and eligibility for retiree health benefits. Other fringe benefits include 12 sick days per year, 20 vacation days per year, payment for membership dues to up to three professional organizations, and reimbursement for actual and necessary expenses. This is the time for public comment. Have

042any blue cards been received? We have a total of three blue cards. Thank you. When I call your name to the podium, state your name and indicate whether or not you live within the boundaries of the school district. You will have three minutes. We will have the timer on the screen and your mic will be muted when your time has expired. The first speaker is Scott Davidson. I want to express my support for the hiring of our new superintendent and the contract presented tonight. First, it's good to actually get a copy of the contract in advance of the meeting. Second, the contract looks fair and represents our expectations for the level of responsibility for a district of our size. You're never going to get a lawyer to approve of everything in a contract. As I

043noted earlier in close session, it still includes the meto clause, which gives the superintendent the same percentage raise they negotiate with our certificated staff. I know we would all love to negotiate our own races, but this is a privilege apparently reserved for the leaders of public schools. You would never see a clause like this in a corporate contract for a CEO because it literally incentivizes the CEO to bankrupt the company for their own benefit. There are some other obvious issues in the contract that are present in almost every contract in the state, such as providing a three-year contract when state law only allows for one. Again, if you were in a private corporation, this contract provision would be voided immediately. But, as they say, it's good enough for government work. I do want to say

044that apart from the good and bad in the contract, today is an exciting day for Carlbad Unified as we start a new chapter with new leadership and a new commitment to improvement. Personally, I will say that the culture here at the district office has already made big strides just since December, and I have enjoyed the willingness of our staff and our interim superintendent to have conversations about difficult issues. I even appreciate that Superintendent Schmidt simply replies to emails and acknowledges them. As we know from earlier tonight, we're still going to encounter issues, but Dr. Dr. Norman has the opportunity to define a culture of transparency, accountability, community engagement, and academic excellence that will immediately filter throughout Carlsbad Unified and breathe new life into our public schools. I am excited about the opportunity to build more

045bridges. Dr. Norman, welcome. Thank you. Next speaker is Janice Ha. Haka. Hi. Hello. My name is Janice Hoka. I'm an educational consultant who is actively involved with several North County public school districts, including Oceanside Unified. I'm speaking today on agenda item 7.1 because I want to raise serious concerns about Dr. Andrea Norman's current role as associate superintendent of business services in Oceanside Unified. Along with Superintendent Vatitali and the board, Dr. Norman bears responsibility for decisions that have endangered students and staff at Pablo Talk Elementary, particularly given that the California Department of Education designated her as the point of contract contact for the 14 Williams complaints filed at that school this year. Despite Pablo Talk being in the middle of a major modernization project, the district chose to keep students on an active construction site. This

046decision has not been only been disruptive but unsafe. At the start of the school year, students had no access to water or shade. Temporary shade structures were eventually installed but they were deemed unsafe and a teacher was injured. Just days into the year, a construction vehicle hit a power pole causing a fire. Yet, there were no clear evacuation procedures in place. Even now, as of today, Pablo Talk students and staff continue to endure the stress and disruption of a hazardous learning environment with students still having access to active construction areas. To make matters worse, construction costs have increased by millions of dollars beyond the original bids with just eight contracts totaling over $5.2 million in added expenses. Trustee Rawlings, as someone who attended the same event for Representative Mike Leaven with Oceanside community members, I

047assume you were made aware of issues at Oceanside Unified, not just at Pablo Talk, but also at Santa Margarita and Martin Luther King Jr. schools. And given that you spoke directly with the Pablo Tak parent at that event, I'm surprised you support promoting a member of OSD's leadership team to serve as Carl'sbad Unified's next superintendent. I also want to raise a concern about transparency. Unlike Carlsbad Unified, Oceanside Unified has not has only been publishing purchase order listings, not the paid warrant listings. This limits the public's ability to track how and when taxpayer dollars are actually spent and it undermines accountability. I hope this is something Carlsbad Unified will not tolerate. Finally, I want to make clear why I'm speaking here tonight. Parents and their children have faced retaliation for speaking out, including at Oceanside Unified.

048I'm using my voice to elevate the Thank you. Next speaker is Rosie Alggera. It looks like she's no longer here. Trustees, do you have any questions? No questions. Um, may I have a motion to approve the employment contract for Dr. Andrea Norman, exhibit A, with an effective date, start date of June 16th, 2025. Motion Ward. Second, Emory. We have a motion, a second, and there is there discussion? I think Trusty Ward, you were going to start with discussion. Okay, that's right. That's right. Okay. Oh my gosh. Let me give me a second here. Would anyone else like to say anything while Trusty Ward is uh um pulling up some of our notes from our validation visit? Trusty, you want to go ahead Trusty Verbath? Thank you. I would like to say welcome Dr. Andrea Norman.

049We're excited to start bridging our community with you and with our educators and we're looking forward to a new beginning. It's great. Trusty Emry, uh I also want to um echo that sentiment. We're very excited to have you and your um kind of well-rounded background um and to see what you can bring to the district and you know we're looking forward to working with you in all capacity going forward. Thank you. And Trusty Ward, go ahead. Yes. So I had the opportunity to sorry about that earlier. I just want to I want to do this justice because we're so excited to have you on. So, um, you know, I had the opportunity to meet with some stakeholders and in Oceanside and we are just so excited. So, I'm going to read, um, just the last

050part of, um, our summary to our staff in our community, from board members and principles to community leaders and assoc association representatives, the message is clear. Dr. Andrea Norman is a stabilizing force, a respected problem solver, and a visionary leader. Her ability to lead with empathy, data, and conviction makes her an ideal choice for superintendent and a great loss to her current district. As one Oceanside U uh unified school district leader put it best, you made the right choice. We are so happy to have you on board and we are excited for you to lead our students and our staff and our community. Thank you. Any other comments? I do have some. Thank you, Dr. Norman. Um we're uh thrilled to have you and I have to say going through the validation um visits it

051was um every everyone was thrilled for you but sad for OSD and was very um was very complimentary. Some of the big uh themes that came out of uh those meetings was collaborator was um that you were that your ability to um uh bring folks on board um that may be in opposition to your um to a current position and uh your willingness and ability to mentor um upandcoming leaders within the district. And so that was one of the things that really uh I I was so pleased with because that's I think is so important to bring people up through the through the district and understanding the culture and creating new cultures when necessary. So truly appreciate you being here and um we're we're very pleased that um we uh will have you start uh

052June uh 16th. So uh with that being said um Miss Garcia, please call for vote. Trusty COC, yes. Trusty Emory, yes. Trusty Rebeth, yes. Trusty Ward, yes. Trusty Rawlings, yes. Motion passes five to zero. Thank you. And Dr. Norman, uh, would you come up to the podium and, uh, for a few moments if you'd like to say a few words. Thank you, President Rawlings. I'm truly grateful to be here this evening. I've listened to the comments shared by the speakers. I want to sincerely thank the board for your trust and confidence in my leadership. As a San Diego native, I've always known that Carlsbad is a uniquely special place. I was drawn to the Carlsbad Unified School District because of its unwavering commitment to academic excellence. The district offers outstanding opportunities for students, including rigorous

053curriculum, competitive athletics, and robust experiences in the arts. The talented staff is experienced and highly trained, and the community is truly dedicated to supporting the diverse needs of the students. I'm excited to begin this journey and I look forward to working in partnership with all of you and the Carlsbad community. Thank you. And we'll take a a short break, so we're going to all sign the contract and then we'll get right back at it. to item 7.2 approval employee appreciation resolution number 262425 day of the teacher and resolution 272425 classified school employee week trustees. This is a discussion action item. I will now hand it over to Miss Mrs. Megan Aras. Thank you. It is the district's tradition to honor certificated and classified employees during the month of May for their outstanding service to our

054district. Through the work of CUSD's dedicated workforce, we are able to provide a highquality learning environment for all students. Consistent with California Ed Code, the district's employee recognition corresponds with the dates established by state legislature. Resolution number 26-2425 designates May 14th, 2025 as day of the teacher. Exhibit A. Resolution 27-2425 designates May 18th through 24th, 2025 as classified school employee uh week exhibit B. It is respectfully recommended that the board of trustees adopt both of these resolutions in exhibit A and B designating May as employee appreciation month. Thank you. Thank you. This is the time for public comment. Have any blue cards been received? We do not have any blue cards. Thank you. Trustees, are there any questions? No questions. uh may have a motion to adopt resolution number 262425 exhibit A and resolution number

055272425 exhibit B designating May as employee appreciation month so moved Emory second we have a first from Emory second from uh Trusty Seos and any discussion thank you Miss Garcia please call for a vote trustee yes trustee Emory Yes. Trusty Burbath. Yes. Trusty Ward. Yes. Trusty Rawlings. Yes. Motion passes 5 to zero. Thank you. And per our practice, um we'll now read the resolution aloud. Um we will start uh with resolution number 2425 and followed by 27245. I'm sorry, 25425. And uh Trusty Seos, could you start? And each one of us, we just each one of us reads the whereases and we go around. Whereas education is the most vital activity that we as a society undertake to ensure the well-being of the nation. And whereas education is in large measure the result of talent

056and commitment of teachers. And whereas teaching is a profession characterized by skill, knowledge, discipline, tenacity, and creativity in the delivery of instruction. And whereas teachers are a source of caring, concern, counseling, empathy, warmth, and love. And whereas teachers deserve widespread recognition and gratitude for their performance. And whereas teachers at the Carlsbad Unified School District exemplify all of these qualities. and and trusty COC, you start again. Whereas teachers at the Carlsbad Unified School District educate and motivate students who have not succeeded in other educational settings or have special needs that require unique skills and compassion. Therefore, be it resolved that the Carlsbad Unified School Board or School District Board of Trustees and the Carlsbad Unified School District Superintendent join with the governor and the state legislature in declaring May 14th, 2025 as the day of the

057teacher. And be it further resolved that the Carlsbad Unified School District this 23rd day of April 2025 hereby passed and adopted resolution number 26-2425 by the following vote. And that was a 50 vote. 50 vote. Thank you. And Trusty Ward, you start at the next one. Whereas classified employees serve the people of the city of Carlsbad through their work at the Carlsbad Unified District. And whereas classified employees continually assist the Carlsbad Unified School District in its commitment to provide quality educational programs and services to the children of Carlsbad. And whereas classified employees individually and collectively set an exemplary standard of performance and commitment. And whereas classified employees provide knowledge, skills, and expertise that are relied upon by staff throughout the organization. And whereas classified employees serve a vital role in providing for the welfare and

058safety of Carlbad Unified School District students. Therefore, be it resolved that the Carlsbad Unified School District Board of Trustees in the Carlsbad Unified School District Superintendent express their gratitude and commend all classified employees for their service to the Carlsbad Unified School District and join the California State Legislature in designating the week of May 18th through May 24th, 2025 as classified school employee week. Be it further resolved that the Carlsbad Unified School District this 23rd day of April 2025 hereby pass and adopted resolution number 27-2425 by the following vote of five eyes and zero nos. Thank you. We now move on to item 7.3 approval declaration of of need for fully qualified educators. Trustees, this is a discussion action item. I will now hand it over to Mrs. Megan Aries. Thank you. The declaration of need

059is an annual form that must be approved and submitted to the California Commission on Teaching Credentiing containing the district's estimated number of emergency permits that might be requested during the year. Prior to processing applications for an emergency permit, this declaration of need must be on file with the commission. It is respectfully requested that the board of trustees approve the declaration of need for fully qualified educators exhibit A. Thank you. This is the time for public comment. Have any blue cards been received? We do not have any blue cards. Thank you. Trustees, do you have any questions? There's no questions. May I have a motion to approve the declaration of need for fully qualified educators exhibit A? So moved. Trusty Seos move. Do I have a second? Second. Verbbeth. Have a second from Trusty Verbth. Any

060discussion? No discussion. Miss Garcia, please call for a vote. Trusty Coscory. Yes. Trusty Berbette. Yes. Trusty Ward, yes. Trusty Rawlings, yes. Motion passes 5 to zero. Thank you. We now move on to item 7.4, approval, development of 2025 2026, proposed annual goals and success indicators. Trustees, this is a discussion action item. I will now hand it over to Dr. Nye. Thank you again, President Rawlings, trustees, and superintendent Schmidt. Uh, as a result of the board study session on March 26, staff has included the proposed 202526 goals and success indicators included in exhibit A, which I'm projecting now. First, I wanted to thank each of you again for the rich discussion and deliberation regarding our annual goals. As I mentioned that night, the establishment of clear goals and success criteria is one of your most important

061roles and it really provides staff a common direction for our work. So, thank you again for that discussion. Tonight, I wanted to go through and highlight the goals and success indicators as well as highlight any changes that were made at that time. Once we have finalized goals and success indicators, staff will begin the work of aligning those with actions and services to include them in the LCAP and bring them back for further discussion in May along with a completed draft of the entire LCAP plan. It is also important to note that this is a discussion action item tonight. We will be bringing the LCAP back though three additional times uh once in May and two times in June before the final version gets submitted to the county. Also, as part of our continuous improvement cycle,

062we bring back the goals and success and getters yet again in the fall after we take a lowest band. So, anybody that's below proficiency in a band, it's measuring their growth as well as is it it's also measuring cohort uh data from students that remain in proficiency bands. So we'd run a pivot table from year to year that would allow us to see all of that growth and capture that in one measure. And then as a followup, the previous 1.4 just what did that measure then? If it only measured Yeah, it it only measured students in the lowest performing band from the previous year. uh and growth of a totally new group of students in that lowest performing band the following year that are in the same grade. So it'd be third grade from last

063year to this year. Fourth grade growth, right? Or whatever. Yeah. Fourth or whatever grade we're whatever grade we're talking about. It wasn't delineated by grade even. It was students that tested. So it was measuring students from all grades in the lowest performing band from one year to the next. Got it. Okay. Thank you. I had a question. Trusty word. Is that a followup? No. Okay. Um I this is just clarification. So the wording is kind of is confusing for me. So you have increase by 3 percentage points. The percentage increase three percentage points. The percentage of students and do you mean increase three percentage points of the proportion of students in grades four through eight that are moving one performance span or that are maintaining you know proficiency or higher. We could I I don't

064understand how you're increasing by three percentage points the percent what percentage of students are you talking about? Yeah, it would mean if you had 5% in the lowest performing band from one year um you would want to decrease that percentage obviously um to the next year the percentage of students in that band. So, uh, it's number of students. You could change it to number if you if that's a little bit more clear clearly written. But you're trying to you're trying to increase students jumping bands from the lowest the two lowest performing bands into higher performing bands and you're capturing the percentage of those students, the match cohort students that are doing that from one year to the next. Okay. So, so three percentage points of the students who are either advancing at least one performance

065level or maintaining proficiency or higher is what you're saying. Okay. Other questions? Trust. So, can you see a benefit in leaving the previous success 1.4 because it is measuring something a little bit different. Can you see a benefit to the board to the community? Uh I think this goal is better or per you know success indicators better. Um I I I hesitate to think that um you know I I worry about the the scale and the number of success indicators that we have. So that's always a concern of mine. Um I do believe this gets after the intent of what was discussed. However, if there's a majority of trustees that feel like that success indicator needs to be added back in, staff wouldn't be opposed to it. It would just be another thing to measure.

066Other questions? Well, follow up. So, again, it wouldn't be a problem for staff to leave success indicator 1.5 as is, but add 11th grade. Is that correct? Yes, that's correct. And then that would encapsulate the previous success indicator 1.4 that was taken up. Basically it it would en encapsulate the 11th grade students. So yes, um it it in my mind it still hits the only difference being that one was measuring cohort. This is measuring cohort data and the other was not. So that's the only difference. This would still capture the same thing as far as performance band jumpers. Yes. Okay. And we're looking at all bands. Correct. We are. Yes. Fistry. And sorry, it was a while ago. Refresh my memory. Was the original staff recommendation to eliminate 1.4 and yet we made some some

067changes to kind of come to the cohorting language that we have now. Is that correct? That is correct. Other questions? I have trusty W. Um, okay. Uh, let me go back to that document for a minute. Oh. Um, so I know you mentioned that we were we wanted to capture what was in the forward together plan for 1.4 because that information was stated in there. Wondering though um, in regard to the local assessment, it I I know we're measuring those subgroups with local assessments. Is that something that we can include in the local assessments as well? Um, I don't think you need to add another success indicator, but I'm thinking is it possible to add in parentheses those subgroups within the the local assessment to ensure that we are capturing that data? Yeah. Um, we

068capture it anyways. So, and um the the question is do you want that to be part of your success criteria on the goals and success indicators on the front? So, we still monitor it, we track it, we report on it. Um but is that something that you want to be part of the frontfacing document? And so that's something that you need to discuss and and uh have that conversation. Staff wouldn't be opposed to that, but again, we're talking about that would be another three success indicators. Um but we're still Well, I'm not asking getting after that work for sure. I hear you. Thank you. Um and I'm not saying to add another success indicator. I'm just saying to just include that we are going to be capturing those subgroups. within the local assessments and I'm

069and I'm thinking that could be included in like su success indicator um 1.2 um since that is similar to the state assessment in terms of achievement rather than growth even though I think it's probably better for those subgroups to be within the academic growth area. because usually you're tracking progress. Correct. Yeah. Again, staff wouldn't be opposed to adding that language. Um it we just need direction from the board to do so. Other questions not related to the lower. Okay. Trusty McBth. Um okay. So I noticed that you you mentioned following the forward together plan and that's why the target was set to 5%. Is that also the um why we set the target to decrease 5% for success indicator 3.4 chronic absenteeism because that was 2% before. So I just wanted to know is that

070the same line of thinking? It's It's actually 5% as currently written. Oh, is it? Yeah, we we made a recommendation. That recommendation did not pass and so we've kept it at the 5%. I'm sorry, I misunderstood that. Thank you. Other questions? Dr. Rob, I did want Dr. Dr. N. Dr. Rob Dr. Should I I just want to confirm that the changes that staff is um recommending to the current printed document is um to change nutrition services to student wellness. Um the spelling to make uh spelling changes in 1.4 and what was the third one? The third one was whether or not you wanted to add back in the old success indicator of 1.4 in the first item. But that's something for the board to decide. not a change to the printed document. Okay. So your

071the staff recommendation is change to student wellness and spelling and that's it. Correct. Okay. I just wanted to clarify that just for success indicator 2.4 student wellness. Um the second sentence which you and I have discussed talks about measurable guidelines. Um, and there seems to be some, we don't know what those guidelines are going to be yet or how we're going to measure them. Um, so how do we know how much this is going to cost um to measure these different targets? Do we have any idea part of uh I know that we have a wellness committee planned uh shortly. So, um, we'll we'll start if this is passed tonight, we can start having those conversations to get a better sense. We'll work with, uh, director Hyde to talk about some of the nutritional, sustainability,

072food delivery models and, um, get some general cost on what that would look like and include that in the actions and services when we bring that back in May. But we won't know actuals. we'll be able to kind of have a somewhat of an understanding, but until those targets are totally set, we're going to we may need to adjust things um as they go. As a followup, um so these targets could potentially change. Okay. Yeah, I I would say they could change uh in the board policy revision itself. um or they could change in this front-facing docu document as well. And then as a follow-up to that, by by setting up the measurable goals, that technically wouldn't cost anything for the first year, correct? It would wouldn't it be in the second year that we

073would see potential costs based on the targets established? Yes, potentially. I know that director Hyde wants to get working on some of these things. So, we may incorporate some of that stuff in there as far as um knowing that there's some um targets that are going to be around food delivery as an example and additional staffing or additional hours for staffing around that. That could be something that he's considering already. I know that he's already brought that to cabinet at one point in time. So, um that could be something that's considered as well. So, examples like that. But you're right, President Rawlings, the bulk of the this will um not require any additional costs until we actually establish what those targets are. And then a follow-up to that is so if there was already things

074that um Director Hyde was already planning on doing, would we capture those in the LCAP? But and then would we also use those dollar amounts against the LCAP or would it be would it be a portion on either side or how how would that look if the director was already planning on doing some of these things and it just happens to coincide with what the board is um um identifying in the LCAP. Yeah. Again, the the purpose of the LCAP and the budget in the LCAP is to identify services going to unduplicated students. If we were um adding services for all students, um it may or may not be captured in that document. It would certainly be captured in the overall budget. Um and we'd we'd work on that through the budget process, but I

075see Miss Okonnell wanting to chime in as well. I would just add that any costs associated with the programs that um director Hyde would implement would come from the nutrition services fund itself which is self- sustaining and so it would not come from general fund and therefore wouldn't necessarily count towards our expenditure requirements under LCAP. Does that make sense? Oh, one other question then. One of those unduplicated categories is free and reduced lunch. Correct. And so would could there be additional funds expended based on um through the LCAP based on the um free and reduced lunch unduplicated students? Yes, potentially. For sure. Thank you, Trusty Henry. Sorry, it's getting late. I'm having trouble remembering. B success indicator 3.4. four on under chronic absenteeism. Um I know there was some discussion going back and forth last

076time between because this is over one year and there was the talk of the 2% but then over three years that adds up to six. Um can you remind me again about what um the five percentage was that the original recommended um from the staff? I don't have it in front of me. I believe the staff uh recommendation was 2%. And because we felt like if we hit 5% uh this year, which is the current target, and an additional 2% the next year, we were already looking at a chronic absenteeism rate at the elementary school, some of our elementary schools at like roughly 10%. So, we'd in essence be cutting it down to roughly 3%. And we just felt like um with five and five that could potentially get us at a 0% chronic absenteeism

077rate, which I'm off for perfection, but I don't know if we actually if that's a realistic goal or not. To follow up with that, I seem to remember it being 2% for that reason, but um I defer to to staff in the notes based on that. Is that a question or Yeah, I I it was it based on the notes was I remember having a you know vivid discussion about the 2% versus the five and it was clear through the notes that we landed on the five. Okay, then it's my memory. Okay, thank you. Any other questions? Okay. May I have a motion to approve the updated goals and success indicators for the 202526 school year, including the staff changes as stated student wellness and spelling under 1.4 this was discussed this evening and authorized

078their incorporation into the local control accountability plan exhibit A. So moved. Emory. Motion by Emmery. Is there a second? I'll go ahead and second discussion. Trusty Beth. Um I went back and scrutinized the minutes and um I was that trustee that was having a lot of conversations with staff about it and I appreciate that again that time that we took to go through it because I think it's important to recognize that we really want to track that group. um and bring them up no matter their race or socioeconomic status or whatever. That's just a really important band. So, and we also Which one are you talking about? I'm talking about 1.5 now, but Oh, we it was 1.4 in the previous presentation, last meeting. So when we took our vote there was a lot of

079confusion and we voted to keep it and then but then we also voted to change it. So my I would like um my fellow trustees to consider keeping it in the sense that we will add 11th graders to 1.5 because they were included in the previous 1.4 for success indicator and right now the way 1.5 is written only grades four through eight are the matched cohort. So I would like to add 11th graders even though we will miss a couple years we still can track the eighth graders who stay in the system who are testing again in 11th grade. And I did talk to Dr. Nye about this and he said it's you know it can be done. So I would like to make sure that we include that grade 11 and then I will

080be satisfied with removing the previous 1.4 if that makes sense. Trust Hamry. Yeah. Um I guess my question concern I don't feel like there's a harm but I wonder if what the purpose because would we still be tracking the 3% performance from 8th grade to 11th grade? Because if that was the case I would expect to see you know hopefully larger growth. Um, so I'm not sure that that really fits here. Um, I do feel like it is included in um the 1.3 um from the previous year because that includes all students on the state assessment. Um, but this is more for the point and correct me if I'm wrong of just tracking within those the match cohort. Um I um would you want um Trusty Verbbeth to address um your your question to her

081as far as changing that? How do we track that? Um you know from 8th to 11th with that performance ban increase if there's you know I would hope that there be more um do you feel like it's not captured in 1.3 and if not how would that 3% be encapsulated? That's a great question. I'm going to defer to Dr. deny. Um I am not an expert in how to do cohort data. Um but I do think that the ESPback does measure the 11th graders for a reason and I want I don't want to lose that band of students. Um so the only way I'm going to say yes to this and removing the previous 1.4 for is if somehow we can keep that grade in here somehow where it's meaningful as well. So I don't

082know the answer to that question. I have a follow-up question from um did you it was a followup to that or is it something different regarding this? Yes. Okay. I I just had a question. So when you say you want them included, what again what's the purpose? I mean and again it's not necessarily Dr. Nye because you're saying that you want to change it that you'd like to change it. So, I'm trying to figure out what are you trying to get out of adding 11th graders to that particular success indicator. Um, well, I'm not trying to add them. It was part of our success indicator 1.4 before and it stated decrease the percentage of students scoring in the standard not met band on ESPback by 3 percentage points in math and ELA and by two

083percentage points in science from the prior year. So it didn't it didn't eliminate any grade levels that were taking the yes back. So they were all included in that success indicator. And if we go back to the meeting notes, there were three of us who voted to keep that. Then there was some confusion that took place and there was some rewarding and adding of cohort data. So what I'm saying is I would like to keep success indicator 1.4. That was the 1.4 for in the previous that's now 1.5 with the cohort with cohorts but the way it's written now it does not include the 11th graders which were included in the success indicator from 1.4. Does that make sense? Okay. Well, so what I'm hearing you say I just I just want to finish my

084because I want clarity on what you're trying to what we're seeking here. Um, so what I'm hearing you say is is that you want to make sure that we are measuring um band jumping in 11th grade. Correct. Okay. So, okay. So, so that's what you're trying to measure is um and and it's not being measured in the current success. Correct. Got it. Thank you. Okay. Trusty W. Yeah. So, I let me bring my thoughts back to me here. Um, so I I I think that if we want to include 11th grade, you can't really have that cohort matched. I I think the purpose of doing something like that would be to see if there's something deficient or if there's growth. And if there's something deficient, we would want to go back and look and see

085what was it in their learning, you know, that was missing. However, if you're going from 8th to 11th to do a cohort match, that would get really confusing because those students would be going to different they could be going to different high schools. They could have went to different schools. Their programs are different there, right? So, the learning is different. I mean, Sage is different from Carl'sb High. And I think if there was something deficient in the data that we got from 11th grade, it would for us to like constructively figure out what what the fix is would be hard to do. So I think if we're going to include 11th, it wouldn't this language around matched cohort should go away. If we're not going to include them and we just want to follow cohort

086data for improvement purposes, then I think that would make sense to just include for grades four through eight. And I agree with you. So then I'm going to propose to my fellow trustees that we put back in the original success indicator 1.4 and in addition to what we see here and just shift them down. So we have um that to be 1.4 and 1.4 here to be 1.5 1 point yeah so it' be 1.4 1.5 1.6 1.7 1.8 shift them down if that makes sense being clear. So we're just adding it back in. Oh and the previous one and leave in these two and leave those two and it can be done. But Dr. Nye wanted less. remember that he he had a special quote for that. Um I do have a question, but Trusty

087Emmery um it just uh are you feeling that they're not um that it's not providing adequate data on success indicator 1.3 when they're included in that state assessment? Um because my concern about that is by the time we get those 11th grade bands are already into 12th grade. um you know so I feel like it's important to look at those as a whole and I feel like those are um noted in 1.3 and that's I think why we originally decided to take out the one the old 1.4 you you disagree right because 1.3 says meeting or exceeding standards the previous 1.4 four is looking at that last band. So, it's not included in that data at all. Do you see a way that 1.3 could be rewarded in order to capture what you're trying to

088get at? um to where increase the increase the percentage of students meeting I don't know I mean standard not met band is standard not met band so you could include that in there but then you're mixing why I I just leave it as is and then we have a focus on that specific band because we want all students to improve and move out of that band no matter what. Totally agree. And that's why I'm saying since we're measuring it there that from my perspective I'm looking at we're already measuring the data in 1.3. Okay. So I'm wondering if we if we added in there the additional band because there's four bands, right? And so and so I'm going to ask a question to Dr. Nye. Sure. Dr. And I would if could we reword 1.3

089to attempt to capture what trustee verbbeth is looking for in um and it would be 11th grade only in this situation because everything else is being captured um in cohort data in the cohort data. You could amend 1.3 to include the lowest band and it would just say the language that was removed from before or you can add the other success indicator back in. However you'd like to do it. I think it's a cleaner look if you add just that success indicator that we omitted. Just add it right back in. Are there any other questions or discussion on that? So, what I'm hearing is is that you're um uh you want to see if there's at least um I should say um that there is not three at least three trustees or more that would

090strongly object to adding back the previous 1.4. Is that correct? Or you could say I would like to know if there are three or more trustees who kind of we kind of changed our process on that. So, I I I'm going to strongly object to that. Um I I don't want to add an additional um an additional uh success indicator. So I'm strongly objecting. I don't know. Does is anyone else strongly objecting? I'm not strongly objecting. It's like either you're strongly objecting or you're in favor is kind of what we decided how we were going to measure. Oh, is that the language on this paper? No, that's what we we decided that's how we would reach consensus. Oh, okay. Just looking my cheat sheet here. Okay. Um I my thought is that you can kind

091of capture that information in 1.3 is my thought. So um so are you strongly objecting or are you okay that sounds so harsh but yes I guess that's what we said that we would we would use. So just a point of order just real quickly. Sorry. Um, this is an actual discussion action item and so if I if if I may, I think it has to be voted upon. Whatever we do, there needs to be a first and a second and actually vote to include that or omit that rather than consensus at this point in time. Well, we would see if there's if there's at least a majority and then it would well, there would need to be a vote and because there is a current motion on the floor, so there would need to

092be um a vote. If that fails, then new language could be but we can only talk about it in discussion. So that's what we're doing. Um Trusty Emmery first and then go. Um I agree that that information is incredibly important. I just feel that in this document it's it's captured what we're trying to do for that um for the forward- facing document. I feel like that information is valuable and I'd love, you know, to continue to see that um feedback information. Um, but I want to be careful of um, uh, being clear and having specific target points for our staff to um, to focus on. So, is that a strongly object? That's an object. Thank you, Trusty CS. I just think we we discussed previously how it's important to look at the number of students

093that are beating or exceeding, but we that whole no child left behind thing and looking at what number is in that bottom tier is really important. I think having a cohort, although it's a little wonky because we're missing a couple of years, but but being able to compare because the experience that our students have in elementary is very different from what happens in middle school and high school just by the nature of how that works. And are they falling through the cracks? is that transition from the lower grades where there is more control with one teacher in one classroom to that broader environment. Are are we losing kids in that lowest tier? I think that's valuable information if we can find a way to work that in. No, and and I agree with you. I

094I think at least from my perspective the objection is that I'm not sure we need to add it just for the 11th grade when we have 1.3. So that's from my perspective because we are doing it four through six for that for those bands. But 1.3 does not look at the lower band but if you're if you have students meeting or exceeding so it says increase the percentage of students meeting or exceeding standards. So if you have like 40% of kids meeting or exceeding then you would know that the other students the 60% are not. So you don't really So if that percentage goes up then the other percentage would go down. So then you would know that there's a band of kids that aren't proficient or exceeding. So then you would just by the

095nature of what is presented here you would get that information. But there are four bands. So say 40% are in your top two bands. That's 60% in the bottom two bands. We don't know what percentage are in each band. And that's what the previous success indicator was driving at was that lowest band. And that's what I'm getting at. So you're you're you're getting your match cohort data but you're losing 11th grade. And I get that there's a break there, but you're losing a very important part of the puzzle. And so I don't agree that we're capturing it in 1.3 um in that specific band. Um and I don't believe we're capturing it all in 1.5 anymore. And thank you. Um so thank you. So as I do I hear you. Um um and uh but

096we do have three objections. So um the the motion is still to ex is there any other discussion beyond what we've just talked about? Yes, I have one trusty word. Um so I would like to look at possibly um I'm thinking indicator 1.1 to include uh socioeconomically disadvantaged special ed and multilingual learners in that description. So the verbiage in that success indicator wouldn't change at all. It would just include that sub those subgroups. Can you repeat the subgroups please? Sure. It it's the socioeconomically disadvantaged special education and multilingual learners. and how um to have 2% growth within math and ELA. I think that makes more sense than to have it in academic achievement for local assessment. But I think to track that on our frontfacing part of this document um I think gives it a

097little bit more teeth. So I think it would be important. So I'm I'm hoping Was this discussed with Dr. Nye? No, it wasn't. Okay. Um, then I might ask I didn't really think about it until now. Okay. I'm going to ask Dr. Nye is would does that change the success indicator or is it just being more specific or can you uh provide some additional information on that please? My understanding would be that if you add those three particular groups, you have three new success indicators measuring those groups. So you'd have the overall performance of overall students which is listed in 1.1. We could have a new success indicator that would be 1.2. That would be uh to measure and track specifically uh socioeconomically disadvantaged students, special education students, multilingual learners with specific targets built in

098as a new success indicator. or add it to 1.1, but you're still having three new targets there. Overall target. May I ask a follow-up question to what he's saying? Um, but if if that success indicator is looking at all students, don't they encompass all students? Yes. And that's what's currently written in one.1. Right. They're in Are you just saying to include socioeconomically disadvantaged students, special? I mean, they are included in 1.1 currently. Yeah. So, and I just I would like it to be written there. So, it's placed within that indicator just like you have in 1.4. I I just think that it would give it a little bit more teeth in terms of ensuring that we are going to support those subgroups to ensure that they're that we are tracking their academic growth. But and

099if that encompasses all students, it's just kind of a descriptor that we are also targeting these groups. Or could it say something like all students including? Sure. Yeah, it could. Um and uh that would just I would need direction from the trustees that that's what we wanted to do is to carve out the language to say increase the percentage of students including socioeconomically disadvantaged special education as well as uh um multilingual learners uh in that particular goal. But not what you're saying is though not to change the targets. The overall targets stay the same. Correct. Staff could do that if we get direction. So it's just a language change. Okay. Trusty Cos I'll strongly disagree. Any other discussion? I'm going to also um object as well and I will as well. Okay. Okay. So we

100don't have um uh we don't have three. Anyone else? Any other discussion? Okay. Uh, Miss Garcia, please call for a vote. Trusty COC. Yes. Trustee Emory. Yes. Trusty Verbath. No. Trusty Ward, yes. Trusty Rawlings, yes. Motion passes three to two. Wait, no. Four to one. Thank you. Um, thank you. We now move on to item 7.5, approval resolution number 282425, authorizing application beyond bond authority. Trustees, this is a discussion action item. I will now hand it over to Miss Suzanne Oonnell. Thank you, President Rawlings. This application beyond bond authority really just acknowledges that the remaining school facility bond program authority has currently been exhausted. So we've made application the funds have currently been exhausted and it acknowledges that there is basically a list that anyone who applied and didn't get funded those projects remain on

101their list with no promise of funding at a future date. However, we are acknowledging that and recognizing that we need to move forward with our construction projects um without the guarantee of state funding. So, that's what this is and it is respectfully recommended that the board of trustees approve re resolution number 282425. Thank you. This is the time for public comment. Have any blue cards been received? We do not have any blue cards. Thank you. Trustees, do you have any questions? No questions. May I have a motion to approve resolution number 282425 authorizing application beyond bond authority exhibit A. Motion. Second. That was a motion by Trusty Ward, second by Trusty Emory. Any discussion? No discussion. Uh, Miss Garcia, please call for vote. Trustee COC. Yes. Trustee Emory, yes. Trusty BBth, yes. Trusty Ward, yes.

102Trusty Rawlings, yes. Motion passes 5 to zero. Thank you. We now move on to item 7.6, approval resolution number 292425, designate authorized district representative for the Department of General Services and State Allocation Board. Trustees, this is a discussion action item. I will now hand it over to Miss Suzanne Con. Thank you, President Rawlings. We were hoping we could hold off on this until Dr. Norman arrived, but unfortunately we're going to need some signing authority before that point. So, this will authorize um Mr. Schmidt to be able to sign on behalf of the district as we make application for various construction projects. So, with that, it's respectfully recommended the board of trustees approve resolution number 29 2425. Thank you. This is the time for public comment. Have any blue cards been received? We do not have

103any blue cards. Thank you. Trustees, do you have any questions? No questions. May I have a motion to approve resolution number 292425 designate authorized district representative for the department of general services and state allocation board exhibit A. So moved. COC. Do I have a second? Second. I heard trusty verbth. So, Trusty Verbth is the second. Uh, discussion. No discussion. Uh, Miss Garcia, please call for vote. Trusty Ciosce, yes. Trustee Emory, yes. Trusty Verbette, yes. Trusty Ward, yes. Trusty Rawlings, yes. Motion passes 5 to zero. Thank you. Thank you. We now move on to part eight, communicate or communications and uh 8.1 governance team reports. This is the time for trustees to provide a brief report if they attended committee meetings where they represent the district. Are there any governance team reports? Trusty, trustee. Okay, go

104ahead. Trusty Verbuff and I met with Christy White Inc. the district auditors via Zoom on Friday uh April 18th to submit some responses on behalf of the board to provide additional input for a preliminary audit review. The auditor asked several questions about waste, fraud, and abuse in our district, and we both expressed our board's deepest commitment to providing accuracy and transparency for the community that we all serve. Thank you. Any other uh governance team reports? And trust Beth, I know we didn't talk about it uh around the wellness committee, but my thought is is that we wait for our follow-up meeting to do a report. Is that accurate? Okay, great. Thank you. Um any other team reports? Nope. Okay. Uh we now move on to item 8.2, trustee requests for information from staff. Trustees, are

105there any requests for information from staff that have already been discussed with the superintendent and have been recommended to bring to the board? Okay. And then we move on to 8.3. Trustee requests for future agenda items. Trustees, are there any requests for future agenda items that have already been discussed with the superintendent and have been recommended to bring to the board? Okay, I'm going to go ahead and read this. As a reminder, trustees are prohibited from having a discussion tonight on these items per the Brown Act. When making a request, please indicate the purpose of the request and whether or not staff has provided an estimate of how long the request will take to accomplish. Trust Beth. Thank you. Based on all the the community feedback we've received about the issue of student clubs and

106how speakers are invited and vetted before coming onto our campuses, I am concerned that our students are being blamed for things that should be the responsibility of adults. That includes vetting speakers and determining whether content complies with education code. There also seems to be confusion on whether club meetings and club sponsored community events are activities which are subject to parental involvement. It is important to educate administrators, educators, and the community about existing district and legal policies surrounding student club rights, including the distinction between non-instructional club activities and classroom instruction. It is also important that administrators, educators, students, and parents are protected and supported when policies are upheld. Therefore, I would like to request that we agendaize a discussion of our current board policies, administrative regulations and school site practices for how student clubs select speakers,

107vet those speakers, and provide information about those speakers to the student body and the community for both club meetings and broader community events for the entire student body. Thank you. And then was there an indication of how much staff time that that would take? No. How much time would that take from staff? So I'm not certain. And uh Trusty Verbeth did communicate that to me in writing, but we have not discussed time. We did however discuss the possibility of doing something uh in cabinet uh moving forward. So, I'd like to um suggest that uh within a month or so, we could probably put something together, but I haven't really had a detailed conversation with staff on that yet. Okay. And um so, are there objections? I would object. Are there any other objections? Uh I

108would as well. Okay. Any other um agenda item requests? Okay. Then it is uh 7:58 and the regular meeting is now adjourned. Our next regular meeting will take place on May 21st, 2025 at 6 p.m. at the Carl'sb Unified School District office. Thank you. Well, that went quicker than I thought it