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SUSD Governing Board Regular Meeting 9/9/2025

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2025-09-12
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001I'd like to call this meeting to order on September 9th, 2025 at 6 PM, the meeting of the Scottsdale Unified School District Governing Board. And I'd like to start with having all of us stand for the pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Like to do a roll call of the governing board members who are present. We have two who are remote on teams and one here in person. Uh I'll start roll call. Uh Dr. Patinsky, >> Matthew Patinsky, >> Miss Carney, >> Amy Carney, >> and Mike Shy. Three members are present. We have a quorum. Uh I'd like to start our next item, which is the

002approval of the agenda that's been published. Uh any adjustments? >> None. >> All right. Uh then I need a motion to approve the agenda as stated. >> I motion to approve the agenda. >> I'll second that motion. Uh for all votes today, since we have folks remote, I'm going to do roll call vote. So um there is a motion seconded to approve the agenda as is. Dr. Patinsky >> I >> Miss Carney >> I >> and I from me approved 300. >> Thank you. I'd like to read a statement about meeting decorum for today. Citizens attending and/or participating in Scottsdale Unified School District meetings either in person, virtually, or telephonically, are required to observe the same rules of order and decorum applicable to members of the governing board and staff. Unauthorized remarks or demonstrations from

003members of the audience, yells, outbursts, and or other disruptions are not permitted. All right, our next item is student and staff recognitions and celebrations. Well, good evening, Vice President Shi and members of the governing board who are in the in the cloud and all of the people who are here in the audience. This is one of our favorite parts of the evening when we get to recognize the outstanding achievements of our students and staff who embody the excellence of Scottsdale Unified School District. Our first celebration honors a remarkable individual, a PETA award winner and a Time magazine kid of the year finalist who continues to impress with achievement after achievement. To present this well-deserved recognition, please join me in welcoming our assistant superintendent of secondary education, Dr. Melissa Sacos, [Applause] governing board members, I'll just

004get a little closer here. Thank you, Dr. Mensel, and good evening, Vice President Shy, governing board members, Dr. Mensel and Mrs. Wagner. I'm elated to be able to uh introduce Jordan to you. So Jordan, why don't you come on up? [Applause] This is Jordan Siccado. And I'm also going to invite up her principal who she just met this evening, principal Nunan, Scottsdale Online Learning. Uh Jordan Siccado is certainly a standout high school student. As I mentioned, she attends Scottsdale online learning and I'd like to help celebrate her recent acco accomplishments. Jordan was named student of the month by the Arizona Board of Education and for good reason. She's the founder of Law for Paws LLC, a youthled nonprofit with a mission to bring awareness for to the malpractice and mistreatment of animals nationwide. Just last

005year, her organization raised $18,000 to support animal welfare in Maricopa County. Yes, we can celebrate. She's also jumpstarting her legislative career early. She authored legislation to ban the sale of animal tested cosmetics in Arizona. She then partnered with Senator John Kavanaaugh and the Animal Defense League to bring this bill to life. Wow. In recognition of her advocacy, she received the Peeta Hero to Animals Award last year. Jordan continues to make a meaningful impact, not just for our community, but for those who can't speak for themselves. We are incredibly proud to have her as part of the SUSD family. Uh, Principal Nan, would you like to say a few words about Jordan? Thank you, Dr. Sacos. And good evening, governing board, Vice President Shy, Dr. Mensel, Miss Wagner, and those of you in the cloud, and

006of course, our fantastic community members. Uh, you guys must have known I was going to be here. We got a really great crowd. So, thank you. So, uh, it's true. I met Jordan for the first time this evening, but we did have a chance to chat. And all I'm going to add to what Dr. Sacos has shared is that um we're all going to be hearing about this outstanding young woman in the future. uh her level of competence and uh her confidence and goals are crystal clear and I have no doubt she's going to activate every single one of them as she continues along her education career and becoming uh a member of our society is going to raise the level of humanity for all of us. So I'm thrilled that she's with online. She's

007a great advocate for our online program and I'm so happy to be able to celebrate here tonight. Thank you. [Applause] >> Congratulations, Jordan. And I'm going to give Principal Nan the honor um of and please accept the challenge coin he's going to give you in recognition of all of your accomplishments. [Applause] Congratulations, Jordan. We're very proud and look forward to seeing of your future accomplishments. Next up, we have a group of elementary students who are following in Jordan's footsteps. They are from Puma Elementary School, and they can already say their artwork has been published. To present this well-deserved recognition, please welcome our assistant superintendent of elementary education, Dr. Christine Bono. >> Thank you, Dr. Mensel and good evening Vice President Shy, governing board members in the cloud, Mrs. Wagner, and our SUSD friends and family

008for joining us. I'd like to invite up Principal Hodto and any reps from Puma that he has coming forward. As we've already witnessed, as we've already witnessed, we have some incredible students and I'm proud to celebrate another group of our young achievers. Let's talk about Puma Elementary School's graphic design class from last school year. You heard that right. Our elementary kids are learning graphic design. They're not just learning, they're making a real impact. These students are being recognized across Arizona for their creative excellence. They were selected to design the cover of the Arizona Department of Education's 21st century community learning centers guidance handbook. It's a publication that reaches schools statewide. It all started when the AD Dorene Candelaria was on site reviewing their campus to ensure uh program compliance. And while on site, she was

009captivated by the artwork from the graphic design students, inviting them to take on this prestigious design project. The class jumped into action. They worked collaboratively to design a masterpiece that will be seen by schools statewide. We really could not be more proud of this incredible achievement. And we'd like to honor Puma with the challenge coin. [Applause] >> Congratulations, Puma. We do appreciate uh the artwork and seeing our students uh talent uh displayed for all in Arizona to see on the front of the 21st century. guidance handbook. So, thank you and congratulations. >> We we have one more uh relatively large celebration this evening uh and it is about our blue zone schools and we have a number to celebrate this evening and I'm going to turn it over to Christine to introduce the Blue Zone

010celebration. So, we're lucky that we get to recognize not just creating a successful learning environment in our schools, but also a campus culture that prioritizes health and nutrition in everything they do. I'd love to take this opportunity to introduce you to our four newest SUSD campuses who successfully undertook this incredible mission and they have just be just been named Blue Zone Schools. So, when I call your school's name, representatives, come on up and we'll give you a round of applause. from Hopi Elementary led by Principal Plankovic. [Applause] We have the team from Coochis Elementary School led by Principal Miller. Come on up. We have the team from Redfield Elementary School led by Principal Rand. and Mountainside Middle School led by Principal Hardy. [Applause] This achievement is part of SUSD's ongoing initiative to promote health and

011nutrition districtwide and these schools are proudly leading the charge. Important to note, Coronado High School was also named a blue zone school, but we're going to recognize them next month so their representatives could join us and be celebrated appropriately. So, just briefly going over each school and then I'm going to turn it over to our folks from Blue Zones. Hopi Elementary's commitment to belonging, mindfulness, and wholebrain learning has fostered a strong culture of well-being for both students and staff. Two key initiatives that help them earn Blue Zone status are their school garden and their therapy dog program. Both aimed at making a lasting impact on the health and happiness of their students. For Coochis Elementary, they launched an initiative encouraging healthier lifestyles for all members of the community. This includes in nutritious meals, increased physical

012activity, and meaningful social connections. Coochis is committed to creating an environment where students thrive physically, emotionally, and academically. Mountainside Middle recently earned its Blue Zone accreditation by embracing a range of initiatives that promote health, sustainability, and community connection. Mountainside launched a student-led water bottle recycling program, replaced unhealthy snack rewards with PTO sponsored quarterly cart offerings, including school swag and nutritious options, and is currently planning the development of their school garden. Redfield Elementary solidified this prestigious designation through numerous initiatives to improve the whole child wellness campus. One highlight is their chef in the garden blue watermelon project where students engaged in hands-on learning about growing, preparing, and enjoying fresh foods. Campus has also made a significant change moving recess before lunch. And this simple shift backed by research can reduce food waste by up to 30%

013and encourage students to eat more fruits and vegetables. We do want to invite our again my friends and colleagues from the blue zone projects to the podium to say a few brief words on the schools for the work they've done together. Thank you Christine. Um I had the privilege my name is Chris Bile and I'm an organization and well-being coordinator for Blue Zones and I had the privilege of working with three of these schools. So I also just wanted to call out one best practice that was unique to these guys. So, Coochis Elementary, I I did want to do a shout out to their PE teacher, Miss Bradley. She created a fabulous health and wellness website that is just filled with resources for brain breaks and nutrition education and social and emotional learning. And she

014shared this out with the teachers. And as a result, every single classroom at Coochis uses a movementbased uh brain break every day. And then also with Redfield, I worked with them as well. For over 10 years, their fourth and fifth graders have been connecting with residents at nearby retirement homes through their Grand PL pen pal program. And all year long, these students with their senior PE pen pals are exchanging letters. And then in May, they come together to play games and celebrate the friendship in person. And then last but not least, we have Mountside Middle School. And they had a PTO member that taught their student government students um stress management and breathing techniques. And now these students share these practices during their morning announcements, bringing calm and focus to the entire school every day.

015So congratulations to these three schools for their creativity, commitment, and lasting impact. And I'll turn it over to my colleague, Tara. >> Hello. So, I'm representing Hopi. And at Hopi, students are pickling, they're planting, harvesting, preparing, and enjoying produce from their very own school garden. They connect to the community through programs like Feed My Starving Children. They keep their bodies moving with groups like Girls on the Run. They do a music mindful minute and even partake in non-food birthday celebrations. At their core, Hopey fosters and cultivates well-being for their students and the community at large. So, a big round of applause for all four of our approved schools. [Applause] Thank you for those heartfelt words and really thank you for partnering with us to make our schools healthier place. To our principles and our representatives

016from each school, the students may not realize how much you have to put into this to make their campus healthier and more sustainable, but we do and we want to thank you. We've got challenge coins here for you and your representatives. I want to give you another round of applause for all that you do. >> Congratulations to our schools for this recognition. We're more than a third of our schools are blue zones approved and we're going to have a number more to celebrate this year. We're just grateful for your commitment to ensuring that our students live healthy lives and and we can maximize their learning through inculcating good habits and behaviors. Thanks to our Blue Zone friends as well. We appreciate you. And that concludes our celebrations this evening. >> Thank you. Our next section

017of the agenda is the governing board reports. Um I'll ask the um other board members if they've got reports. Starting with Dr. Patinsky. >> Thank you for the opportunity. I'm sharing my screen although I don't know that the room will have the benefit of that. Um I regret that I'm not there in person and I am uh at a event related to competency based personalized learning in math. So hopefully I'll bring back some insights from that and for better or for worse for Dr. Mensel. I have already shared a few of insights to Dr. Mensel. Uh, I'm looking forward to being at Desert Mountain High School this month, uh, visiting with the AI club and helping them both bring in speakers about AI in education technology as well as I think they aspire to help

018the district develop its next generation AI policy. Um, and with that, just want to express my gratitude for all the work that went into kicking off this academic year so well. >> Thank you, Dr. Patinsky. Miss Carney, comments? >> Uh, thank you. So, I'm good. I don't have anything for tonight. Thank you. >> Thank you. Um, and then from my side, a couple things. Um, I visited Mojave Middle School two weeks ago, so thank you, Principal Ferrero, for taking the time to talk with me and show me around the school. I really enjoy school visits and talking with the principles and seeing what they're doing. Um, uh, last week I went to the shop, Saro football game. Um, first time going to a football game. My kids were SHAP for four years and K K

019through 12 their whole career and I never went to a football game so that's my first one. Uh congrats to Sarro for the win. Sorry Shap. Um I appreciated time on both sides and seeing Dr. Menzel and being able to be on the sidelines to see a pretty cool interception right in front of us. So that was good. Um and then uh I went to the Arizona School Board Association law conference last week. So, I wanted to thank the district for paying for um me to attend as well as u my fellow board members. Uh I feel much more informed about the myriad of legal issues that we face as a school board. Uh and I feel more uh educated to be able to respond. So, it was very very valuable. Thank you. Uh next

020we have superintendent's comments. >> Thank you, Vice President Shy. Just a few more things to uh put on uh everyone's radar. Uh tomorrow, Scotsdale Unified School District will be hosting our second annual back- tochool mental health resource fair at the Mojave District Annex rooms A and B beginning at 5:00 pm. Uh it was great to celebrate the four new Blue Zone schools here today and as Dr. Bono mentioned, Coronado has also been approved. That celebration will be here on the campus at 11:00 uh to make it official and then we'll celebrate them at a future governing board meeting. Scottsdale Unified School District will also be the host of the ASBA Maricopa County meeting on September 29th. That dinner meeting that will uh welcome representatives, schoolboard members from across Maricopa County will begin at 5:00 at

021the MDA. And then our then our special meeting, final special meeting of September will be on the 30th, but instead of being at the Mojave District Annex, it will be here at 6 o'clock with a focus on interestbased negotiation. and the board will have the opportunity to have direct conversations with our four different associations. So, we're looking forward to exciting things as we uh quickly move through the month of September. >> Thank you so much. Our next section is public comments. Uh so, for public comments today, um I'm going to read a statement in a second. Um we've got 18 speakers. Um I will call up the name of the speaker and I'll also call up the name of the person who is on deck. Um, everyone has two minutes to speak and the public

022comment statement is in compliance with open meeting law. The governing board may not discuss or take action tonight on any matters raised during public comments that are not on the agenda. However, the governing board members may respond to direct criticism, ask staff to review a matter, or that a matter be placed on a future agenda. Public comments will be conducted in accordance with policy BEDH. As a reminder, each speaker speaker speaker will have two minutes. The screen will indicate the time remaining. Please be prepared to close your comments and relinquish the floor at the conclusion of your time. The board asks that each speaker please introduce yourself by stating your name and whether you live within our school district for clarity on the record. We thank you for your time and attendance here this evening

023and your cooperation and following the meeting to quorum and protocols. I will read the name of the speaker. When you hear a name, please come up to the podium and I'll read the name of the next speaker to be ready on deck. Once you start speaking, your time will start. Um, so thank you for following these comments. Thank you for introducing yourself so we know your relationship to the district. And we will start with Miss Riley Defusco first and Jacob Weinberg on deck. Do you need to turn the mic on for them or There we go. Green light. You're good. >> Good evening. My name is Riley DeFusco and I'm a student at Chapperel High School. On August 5th, SUSD Food Services gave a presentation of their summer accomplishment. The team was able to deliver

024over 235,000 meals to children facing food insecurity. During this presentation, Senator Warner interrupted through her microphone, remarking, "This is what I have to listen to. She is like morbidly obese. Senator Warner, you hold a significant position of power within our district. You represent the values this community strives to uphold. Your words not only reflect your own morality, but the commitment you choose to provide SUSD with. Your remark sends a message that it is acceptable to degrade someone's identity down to their appearance and not of their character. As a student of SUSD, I'm equally ashamed and appalled by your actions. Regardless of the context, your words were inappropriate, demeaning, and cruel. Accountability holds significance, something I'm sure you would agree with. However, your failure to issue a public apology contradicts that very juvenile principle. Moving forward,

025I hope you understand the words you choose to say do have an impact on this community. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Next up, Jacob Weinberg. On deck is Eric Marcing. Hi, I'm Jacob Weineberg. I am a Scottsdale resident and board members. Superintendent, thank you for having me speak. Um, also for board member Warner, when we volunteer for service to serve the community, our responsibility is to make those institutions better, not tear them apart. Bullying tactics and derogatory language are unacceptable and tear these institutions apart. If it's unacceptable for these students in the room to do this, why is it acceptable for a board member to? I demand that board member Warner make a public apology for her comments. And if not, if she doesn't have the integrity to hold herself accountable, I demand that

026the superintendent and the board reprimand her and require the same the same training, the same remedial training you would give to students that make these comments. Thank you for your time. [Applause] >> Eric Marsing. Up next, Emmy Cardella. >> Eric Marsing, Scottsdale resident. uh alumni of Chapperel. Well, graduate, but I went there my first couple years. Uh so, thank you members of the board. Uh I am here because of uh my concern regarding board member Warner. Uh when I read about her denigrating a a uh wellaclaimed staff member, uh I I had to speak up. It's not something I I I choose to do or or like to do. Uh although um my understanding is that uh she didn't realize that she was on a mic, a hot mic, that has uh no no bearing

027on the unprofessionalism and the uh cruelty of of our comments. Uh, as as other speakers have have said, this is something we would hold our school administrators, our teachers, our students accountable for if they were to make a similar comment on a on a school campus. And so, um, that's why I'm calling for her to to resign because I don't think that she represents us as a as a community or this this school district appropriately. Thank you. [Applause] Emmy Cardella on deck. Rebecca Ryerson. >> Good evening, governing board. Dr. Mensel and Miss Glattis. I guess Oh, my name is Emmy Cardella. I am an SUSD parent and proud Dawn. And I suppose I'll be the first one to point out that Miss Warner is not here. Her name tag is there. So, I'm assuming she

028planned on to attending and got wind that we would all be here to confront her and she chose not to attend. So, in line with her her character. Um, so I'm here for the same reason all of these other speakers are. Her comments were egregious. I personally was not surprised by her disrespecting staff member and um speaking you know denigrating them. I've heard seen her do it from the dis on many occasions. Um, what's really even worse, I believe, is how she is telling people that she's been that she wasn't talking about that. She was mis misinterpreted and she's lying and claiming that that is not what she said when we all heard her loud and clear. So, Miss Carner, if you watch this, um, I'm sorry, Miss Warner, if you watch this, um, you

029are a terrible board member and our our students deserve better and we will all continue working to ensure that you will not be reelected. Um, given that I have a minute left, I will comment on the last board meeting that you all had, the study session, where you discussed the wigs, and it was an amazing conversation, and I just really appreciated the board members bringing their thoughtful analysis. And again, like this year, you've all been taking on some really serious issues in the district. You know, again, schools around us are closing schools, making very tough decisions. And I love that you guys aren't turning away from that, that you're really approaching it head-on. Um, and I'll point out in that meeting too, there was over two hours of great discussion and board member Warner said

030nothing the entire time. She had zero zero comments and did not contribute to the conversation whatsoever. So, thank you. >> Rebecca Ryerson. Up next, Sarah Cuken Becker. >> Hi, my name is Rebecca Ryerson. I'm a parent of four in the community. Um, thank you for allowing me to speak uh to the governing board. As you know, I was one of the first people to send an email to the board member, Miss Werner, asking that she apologize for her insensitive and incredibly demeaning comments to Miss Bilbury. I asked Dr. Lewis as board president to issue an apology on behalf of the board, condemning such cruel language, as well as making it clear that this behavior from a leader in our community would not be tolerate tolerated and was potentially in violation of the code of ethics

031for governing board members. To my knowledge, no apology has been made to Miss Bilbury from either Miss Warner on or on behalf of the governing board. I find it disappointing and frustrating and my adlib here is I find it even more that I came to the meeting to address it face to face and she's not even here to address it. The part that continues to nag me is her comment of can you believe I have to be listening to this? What was the point that was so annoying? The fact that Miss Bilbury took time out of her summer to ensure thousands of people with food insecurities were fed. The fact that it costs nothing for our district because she of her ability to think creatively about funding the sources. Or is it just that she

032no longer wants to participate in the board meetings in the first place? And if that is the case, why? because you don't have the you don't value the role that a governing board member has in our district or you don't value SUSD or the administrators who are working tirelessly to improve the district or you don't value the diversific the diversity of the population and the needs of the students within the district or you're just not into it anymore. Whatever the reason, I would ask that you re-evaluate your role that on the board and I'm sure we can find someone to assume your seat who wants to be in the role and who will actively work hard for the students of [Applause] >> Sarah Cukenbecker. Up next, Jeff. >> Hello everyone. Uh my name is Sarah

033Cukenbecker. I live in North Scottsdale and I have two children. I am here tonight to teach my children how to stand up to a bully who courageously decided to skip the meeting tonight. Step one, you must not be afraid of a bully. And I am not afraid of Karen Warner. But of course, I am unlikely to be one of her targets. After all, I am white, I am heterosexual, and I am physically fit. As we know, she has quite a history of diminishing people who look or think differently than she does. A history that includes viciously mocking an employee of the district that she represents. A history that includes intimidating qualified teachers in her district by developing a narline. Yes, you see, her victims are folks under her power who may be scared away from

034standing up to her. how very convenient for her and how typical of a bully. Step two to stand up to a bully. Don't let them twist the truth about their bullying. After tonight's meeting, I think it's very likely Karine Warner will try to say that the recent hot mic incident was all a big misunderstanding. I think she will try to claim that her words were taken out of context and not meant for the employee who was speaking, whose words should have commanded her respect and attention. Oh yes, I think she will attempt to gaslight all of us and do anything other than take full responsibility for her actions. People make mistakes and we can forgive mistakes when there is accountability and sincere apology. But Karen has chosen silence and I am certain her next step

035will be deflection. I was hoping she would prove me wrong. I was hoping she would be here tonight to offer a sincere apology for her actions. Instead, her absence proves the point I came to make tonight. Karen Warner is not fit to serve. Our children and valued staff deserve better than a bully and she must resign. >> Next up, Jeff Ret. And then after that, Suzanne Thun. Every paid head coaching position is listed in the governing board's personnel policies and procedures manual, and each has a long list of duties and responsibilities. I was a paid head coach for seven years. Most of those years, I did multiple sports, I stood at this very microphone and talked about the corruption in Scott Menzel's office. Shortly after, during the first week of seventh grade flag football, the

036principal came out on the field deeply disturbed and told me Dr. Menzel's office just informed him that I if I did not sign a volunteer coaching contract, the season for those 32 families was cancelled. I knew it was retaliation since my brother, the eighth grade coach, would be paid. I coached those boys for the next 15 weeks and never missed a practice or game in 110°ree heat. We had a great season. There was a lady hanging around my practicing games. She never coached in her life. The principal told me she was thinking of being the athletic director next year and wanted to observe two great coaches in action. Some days she wore a dress in the stipling heat. And I found out at the end of the season that this lady was paid my $1,800

037coaching stipen. But that's not the worst of it. The district lawyer admitted to me that Mrs. Croier authorized a contract that lists this lady as a seventh grade flag football coach and lists the duties and responsibilities that I did. But that's not Listen, I don't care what you do with people that are cooking the books. Although it certainly raises the question of how many other Phantom coaches are on the payroll. You can have Gus Rosenfeld send me all the threatening letters you want and keep telling me I missed the statute of limitations to sue the district until I am paid $1,800 coaching stipen. I'm not going anywhere. Dr. Lewis, as I said at the last board meeting, the worst thing you can say about someone is they don't care. You called me into an executive

038board meeting. I no sooner sat down and you voted to tell me to go home. That's not leadership. That is cowardice. You need to resign. Next up is Suzanne Thoon. After that, Ilia Yango. >> Hi, my name is Suzanne Tuni. I have um two kids in SUSD. Miss Warner, your comment during the recent presentation on the summer meals program, specifically referring to what you had to listen to, was dismissive and disrespectful. It undermined a vital initiative that provides free nutritious meals to food insecure children and dismissed the hard work of an entire department committed to serving our community. The SUSD nutrition services team works tirelessly, often without recognition, to ensure children receive meals that they may not otherwise have access to. publicly minimizing their efforts not only discredits their work but also sends a harmful

039message about the value we place on feeding hungry kids. This kind of remark has no place in a professional setting, especially one that is tasked with supporting programs that make a measurable difference in the lives of students and their families. Respect for staff and their contributions should be the baseline standard in all of our discussions. The impact has extended well beyond the meeting itself. The words created a hostile and unsafe environment cause causing lingering emotional distress, diminished confidence and anxiety about future future interactions in this space. Our staff and leaders deserve to be treated with dignity and respect. While differences of opinion are part of public service, personal attacks have no place in this setting. This experience must be recognized for the harm it caused and should serve as a reminder of the responsibility we

040all share to uphold professionalism, civility, and respect in every interaction. Thank you. >> Thank you, Miss Tuni. Up next, Ilia Yango. Uh on deck, Mary Beth Klein. >> Hello. I'm Liango. I'm a senior at Desert Mountain High School. have gone there all four years and I'm here to ask uh board member Warner to resign. Uh today we're in Spanish class and we are talking about what our ideal world would look like and me and my classmates said that it would be other than being not so hot as it is here. It would be having uh living with diverse people and uh to for the reason to um to learn from other people's cultures and to appreciate these people but what board member Warner how she acts not just the comment that she made of the

041uh person that works here but um her past actions show that she is not in favor of having a divi a diverse community uh for Scottsdale Unified School District and for that reason I went to step down. >> Thank you. Up next, Mayor Beth Klene. On deck, Katherine Martin. >> Good evening. My name is Mayor Beth Klene. I live within the SUSD school district boundary and I am the mother of three children at Arcadia High School. I have a senior, a sophomore, and a freshman. I am here to ask the board of governors to consider moving the final schedule for the year end for 2025 2026 school year. Right now, graduation is on Thursday, May 21st, and finals span Wednesday, May 20th through Friday, May 22nd, which puts graduation right in the middle of finals

042week, which makes it difficult for parents with multiple kids to celebrate graduation. Um, in addition, I can't speak for other schools, but I know at Arcadia, the National Honor Society participates in graduation, as does our um, band. So, um, I would ask that you give this matter some due consideration and consider adjusting the final schedule perhaps from Tuesday to Thursday so we don't have graduation in the middle of finals. Thank you. >> Thank you. Up next, Katherine Martin on deck, Jacqueline Buckley. Hello um SUSD governing board members and Dr. Menzel. My name is Katherine Martin. I live in Scottsdale and I am the parent of two children who have attended SUSD schools since kindergarten and I still have one child at Desert Mountain High School. I have been witness to board member Warner's divisive attacks

043on SUSD values since she was elected. Her recent hot mic comments are not an isolated slip. They are part of an ongoing pattern of discrimination, censorship, and disregard for Scottsdale students, families, teachers, and staff. As the mother of a child in the LGBTQ plus community, I do not appreciate her contempt for diversity, equity, and inclusion. She has attempted to ban books and promote Prageru's controversial right-wing propaganda in our schools. Warner is a divisive elected official and has clearly violated the SUSD governing board code of ethics. We deserve better. Warner should resign. Thank you. >> Up next, up next, Jacqueline Buckley on deck, TJ Buckley. Good evening, esteemed board members. My name is Jacqueline Buckley. I'm a math teacher at Chapperel High School. I come to you tonight concerned about the wildly important goal pertaining to

044moving algebra 1 to uh uh to 8th grade. Um there are a few reasons I'm concerned. The first being having qualified math teachers in the younger grades in order to accelerate the curriculums to be able to teach algebra 1 in 8th grade. Um, the second concern is without a solid math foundation, students will struggle even more later on in their math career. Compounding this found this rocky foundation with accelerating their math education will only snowball their math deficiencies. As it is, students are coming to high school below grade level. currently the students I have coming to geometry are between on average a fifth through 7th grade level. Um, and that's based on the LL data for this year. Moving algebra 1 to 8th grade will also force students to take AP calculus or AP statistics,

045and many of them will not even need this in college. Finally, students coming from out of district or out of state may not meet the requirements for algebra 1 in 8th grade, therefore needing to still offer it at the high school level. Also, eighth graders that fail algebra 1 in 8th grade would either need to repeat algebra 1 for the foundation or would be moved along without that foundation, compounding those deficiencies. um this would also then u hinder their GPA. I ask you to reconsider this goal and I thank you for your time. >> Thank you. >> Up next, TJ Buckley. Uh after that, Dr. Terresa Labour Ruiz. >> Hi, I'm TJ Buckley, president of Scottsdale Educ Education Association, proud SUSD parent, and proud teacher at Mountain Side Middle School. Tonight, I want to focus

046on the treatment of staff by community members. We've had a dramatic increase of intimidation and harassment of staff by community members. Uh whether it's a hundred emails to teachers in three weeks, threats to come to the school every day and bother us, showing up in classrooms unannounced, or shouting curse words or dictator nicknames at administrators. This treatment must stop. When a staff member has to worry about a confrontation with community members while also securing a classroom for the 20 to 200 students that they work with each day. They are unable to focus on the students and their needs. We are calling on SUSD through interestbased negotiations to implement a policy to define defer to define and defer harassment and mistreatment of staff. Last month, I addressed this board to remind you that you work as

047a team. No decision of yours unili works unilaterally. There is no such thing as an independent act. Independently, you have influence. Together, you have power. I expect that you will hold each other accountable to the same standards that you hold staff. Your actions have consequences. Many of these consequences are felt by the staff of this district that show up to work every day. We, your employees, are tired of being attacked in part due to your actions and inactions. This may be a twice a month gig for you, but leadership isn't. Thank you. Next up, Dr. Terresa Le Ruiz. After that, Eric Kurland. Good evening, Vice President Shy, members of the board, Superintendent Menzel, and members of our community. My name is Dr. Terry Learice and I currently reside in the Roosevelt District. However, I tonight

048I am here as a former SUSD student and a career educator in Arizona. I want to speak directly to the harm caused by Miss Karine Wernern. When a governing board member uses her position to demean, belittle, or disparage a respected employee of a district, it is not simply a personal attack. It undermines the trust and dignity of our entire school system. A te as a teacher, administrator, and former president at Glendale Community College, I have witnessed 35 years of great behavior and few instances of bad behavior where each of these individuals have been held accountable and the behavior was always corrected. To the students in our district, you matter. To the staff who continue to show up every day with professionalism and care, we see you, we support you, and we thank you. And to

049this board, I urge you to take seriously the responsibility you carry to protect the integrity of public education and the dignity of every person who makes Scottsdale Unified a place of learning and growth. Thank you. >> Thank you. Up next, Eric Kurland. After that, Shaya Jaffy. >> Uh, good evening. My name is Eric Kurland. Uh, my wife and I are retired from the district over a half century. Uh, our kid has graduated and started through the district, and we are still homeowners in the district. I came to just say hello to Nick Nunan, but I signed in on a computer, and apparently that's why I'm here. No, I I want to apologize for that. I actually have something to say. and and see uh Mrs. Warner, apologies aren't that difficult. It really isn't. I worked

050on the strategic uh mission and values and spent many months doing that. And one of the questions was how are we going to get this through to all of the staff and students and we talked about it starting at the top. And I if I had eyes that could read that, I'd read you the words of empathy, of integrity, of trust. And it all comes down to those things. And I wonder if this actually ties into what Mr. Buckley was talking about and the ability of some parents, hopefully a very minor amount of community members that feel it's okay to do those kinds of things to staff. So, it's tough enough being somebody today in this kind of world where everybody's looking at you and your appearance and there's a Botox industry and there's fillers

051and there's weight loss. I mean, this is a billion dollar thing. But for you to kind of come out and say something like that, it's really simple. Make a public apology and move on and not one of those if then statements. If I said something that might have bothered you, then I'm really sorry. No, take a deepthroatated self-reflective apology. And I believe that the board also has to come out and have a statement about this. So, thank you. >> Thank you. >> Next up, Shaya Joffy on deck. Elijah. >> Well, I uh my name is Shaya Jaffy. I have two students in the district and it's pretty hard to follow Eric Kurland and I so appreciate you all for having us here and and for all you do in the district and and tell you

052that um if I may say there are so many of us here that are so proud of our district and proud of our schools, our students, our teachers and of course I had prepared my uh my my notes to speak to Werner but I threw those out because she's not here. though it is it is apparent she was supposed to be here. Um so I'll speak to the cameras and let you know that what I have in my hand is 67 pages 67 pages of names which amount to 1,522 signatures and growing by about t 10 signatures every half hour. So uh I am interested if we did that in 14 days. Just imagine what that's going to look like in one month. Um Warner it's time for you to go. This is this was

053the final straw for the community. Again, this is community members as well as educators redacted names. They didn't ask me to redact it, but I just felt like just in case there was a retaliation, I chose to redact their names, but I included the educators of schools and that they are employees here. And I will tell you, we're tired of her. We've watched her up here for the last couple years completely unprepared on a on a meeting basis. She she says she doesn't get that information yet everybody else did. Oh well, I'm not privy to that. And time and time again, she can't vote because she's not prepared. She doesn't ever contribute to anything of quality. She obviously does not care about our district. And we want her to resign. So we will be back,

054Warner. We will see you next time. You will have to face us. >> Thank you. [Applause] [Music] >> Up next is Elijah. And on deck, Aaron Nicoleti. Hello, Elijah. >> As a strong as a child and a very strong reader, I find that banning books is kind of like what happened in Fahrenheit 451. And that if we ban books, I think we will go to a dystopian, probably even worse than Fahrenheit. And yeah, >> thank you, Elijah. Our last speaker is Erin Nicoleti. Hi, I am Erin Nicolleti and I'm a parent of two students at SUSD. Um, our schools are supposed to be a place of safety, kindness, acceptance, and education. Um, Karine Warner has made it clear that her agenda does not align with these principles. Whether it's publicly mocking our hardworking staff, trying

055to stop a nationally recognized history curriculum program selected unanimously by a committee of teachers, parents, a principal, and community members, or creating a complaint line to report teachers who teach lessons about something she's been told not to like. She's proven she has little interest in educating our children. It is people like Miss Warner who is denying us our freedom to educate our children as we choose and freedom to feel our children are safe within our school system and frankly our city. She is a bully. She does not align with the values of SUSD. She does not belong anywhere near our education system and she should resign. >> Thank you. I'll now refer to board members if they'd like to respond. Dr. Patinsky. >> Uh, no. Thank you, >> Miss Carney. >> No, thank you. >>

056I'd like Please, I'd like to make uh a comment. There is comments about the governing board of which I'm a member. Um, thank you for all the community members. Um, everyone for being here and and sharing. Um, this is I'm happy to see the involvement. Um, first I'd like to share that I did ask our legal counsel about our ability to censure a board member and I was informed that is not an option for school boards. So that is not something that we can put on the table. Um, I do not condone the conduct of board member given what I heard at the board meeting on August 5th. Um, I know what I heard, but only the speaker can know why she said what she said. This behavior does not reflect the board member ethics

057as adopted in policy BCA, nor is it representative of SUSD's core values. Uh policy BCA includes a statement, "Governing board members shall safeguard public confidence in the integrity of the governance of the district by being honest, fair, caring, and respectful." Lastly, I want to thank everyone who spoke, students, parents, community members who came here to share their viewpoint on this matter. Thank you. [Applause] Next up, we have information discussion items in section seven and legal council has the floor. Yes, Vice President Shy, members of the governing board in the cloud, Dr. Menel and Miss Wagner. Uh we have six policies before you this evening for first reads. Um Miss Carney and Dr. Pasinski, I do want to request that um if you are cut off for any reason um during this board meeting or have

058difficulty with your uh technology, we do need to know so that we maintain a quorum. So if you could let Dr. Mensel know if that occurs during our uh the remainder of our public board meeting. The uh first item is governing board policy EB, which is about environmental and safety programs. Um the changes for all six of these policies are recommendations by the school board's policy provider, the Arizona School Board Association. Specifically with respect to this policy, it appears that there are some changes that have not been adopted in previous iterations of policy um recommendations issuing from ASBA. So the language that I'm uh looking at right now, the general areas of emphasis, for instance, is is from a former um policy recommendation. But the language here concerning concerning school safety programs is derived out

059of statutes that will be applicable on September 26th of this year. The um recommendation from the legislature is to revise the school safety program and the school resource officer program to include additional requirements for school district to develop emergency response plans to provide training um and to define school safety officers. So ASBA's recommendations concern the changes to those two statutes ARS 15154 and a new statute ARS 15154.02. O2. And so with that, I'm happy to answer any questions regarding the proposed changes to policy EB. >> Any questions from board members? >> Not for me. Thank you. >> Miss Carney, are you still present? >> I'm present. No questions. Thank you. >> Okay. >> Um, Mr. Sharky, is it all right if I move on to the next agenda item? >> Next item. >> Okay. So

060the next uh governing board policy presentation is governing board policy GCQF. This is concerning discipline, suspension and dismissal of professional staff members. The statutory change is an amendment to ARS 15350 which will permit school districts to ask that the state board of education provide information from their files regarding investigations on about staff members. Um, so that is the change, but there were additional changes that were recommended again by ASBA that had not been previously adopted by the district. So I'm going to try to find that specific change because it did have a choice and I have made a recommendation for the board. Um, it's right here. Um, so in a student uh in a staff member dismissal hearing, the board, the governing board can choose to hold the hearing themselves or they can designate a

061hearing officer. Um the recommendation from legal counsel is that a hearing officer conduct the hearing and so that is how the policy is reflected. Then the additional changes are listed right here and this concerns the statutory change that I discussed before regarding the state board of education. Are there any questions regarding the proposed changes to governing board policy GCQF? >> Could you just add maybe two sentences on why that's your recommendation? Sure. Um, thank you, Dr. Patinsky. Um, in in my experience, and I have conducted um due process hearings for the termination of a certificated staff member. I personally in 30 years have never held one before a governing board. It would require all of you to be present to hear witness testimony to make um judgments regarding that witness testimony and then to be

062present for the entirety of a hearing which can take the longest one that I've had has taken about two days. Um so that's a significant time commitment for a governing board member. Um what is more typical is to designate a hearing officer. The state board of education has a list of hearing officers. most are attorneys and then that hearing officer would hear all the testimony evidence and make a recommendation to the board regarding whether um termination of the certificated staff member is warranted. And so that is my recommendation that you use a hearing officer rather than hear the hearing yourself. Ultimately, it is this governing board's determination whether to um hire or fire staff. And so, it would ultimately always be your decision with respect to that recommendation. But um the actual hearing itself, it

063makes more sense to have a hearing officer do it. >> Thank you. That's very clear. >> Next governing board policy is I IKF. This is your graduation policy. Um the district administration at this time is recommending only a procedural change. It's right here. Um this is concerning the change in statute which will permit high schools to accept um students ACT scores if those scores are completed outside of the school district. And so um the the district would amend policy to recognize that assessment uh opportunity for for students. The ACT scores would have to be submitted prior to the date that the district initiates testing and uh Dr. Bono has um conferred with um or excuse me not Dr. Bono um your district data specialist has conferred with the AD and the students would have to

064take both the writing portion of the ACT exam and the ACT exam. So there are specifications that the state board is issuing with respect to this requirement, this new requirement. the uh governing board policy I uh KF does not has other changes that the district again your policy currently doesn't align to ASBA's current version. Um the background information uh indicates that this policy has been um recommended for revision to the governing board a number of times. It is the district administration's intent that this procedural change be made at this time and then the high school planning guide committee will consider additional changes to bring forth that are more substantive at a later date this year. >> Question, you said ACT, but if I recall correctly in the wording, it's any out ofstate assessment recognized by

065AD. Was this done specifically for the ACT? And is there a chance that you know there's sort of unintended consequences of other assessments that we'd have to start assess accepting and ratifying? Vice President Shy, I think those rules will be determined by AD and at this time there will be accepting an outside ACT score because that's the examination that's given by the district. So, I think that the statutory language was written to indicate a nationally recognized exam as it's stated uh in the policy here that I've pulled up in case that um the uh there's a change to what is uh reviewed at the state level. you don't feel there's a risk that there could be some other assessments that we are now forced to accept or because of the wording you feel the nationally

066recognized is tight enough that we're not going to have any unintended effects here >> I I don't think that you will because I don't think that the state board would allow you to accept um for instance you know some other examination they may broaden it they may broaden there is for instance some examination that is given to uh students who are serving in the military or who are that is a military recognized examination that I hadn't heard of before this year that there's discussion about broadening those but that would have to go through rule making with the state board. >> Thank you. >> And it's my I heard um at a recent event heard the uh executive director of the state board of education indicate that they are going out for an RFP in the

067next year to look at the examination schedules. Um and it may be that the same exam is selected as the provider for the state board. >> Okay, great. Thank you. Any other comments on board? >> Yeah, this is um Matthew just a brief comment. As I've reported in prior board meetings, I'm on the board of ACT and so I had hoped to abstain from anything that related to the ACT whether there's an actual conflict or or not. But given you know where we are with a quorum I will vote on this since I don't see any you know stretch of a conflict um given the substance of the policy but I didn't want to go on record of mentioning my affiliation with ACT. >> This is discussion item only so no vote today. >> Thank

068you. Oh that's right. Thank you for the correction. >> Dr. Patinsky. Thank you for your caution. Um the next governing board policy for consideration is governing board policy JLC. This is regarding student health requirements. There is an amendment to state law that is going to require um any school district to provide um information regarding health care services provided to students, information regarding the provider. Um so specifically um if they want to check the credentials of somebody the parent or legal guardian may. Additional change to state law will include um that the district provide information regarding the types of training that any staff member has received, not just to your health care staff. So those are the proposed changes to uh governing board policy JLC. Any questions on that one? >> All right. Next up is

069governing board policy JLCD. This is your policy that concerns uh the administration of medicine to students. There's been a change in uh Senate Bill 1440 change statute to remove the words epinephrine auto injector and to replace those with epinephrine delivery system. And so uh that are that's the changes that we've recommended to this policy. In addition, as you'll see, there are some other cleanup changes that it appears that the district had not adopted in private prior iterations of recommended policy revisions, and so those have been picked up in this proposed policy revision. Any questions regarding this item? I do want to >> No questions. >> Okay. Thank you, Miss Carney. Um, I do want to note that I did uh review this with Renee Tusta, the district's head uh uh nurse on campus. And so

070she and I did um make some additional revisions that differ from ASBA's proposed policy revisions um just to clean up and clarify some of the language in this. So, and if any board member wants to know, you know, specifically what those are, I can review and provide a black line. And then the final policy for your consideration tonight is a uh revision to policy JLF. This is concerning reporting child abuse and child protection. The state law will change what information a department of child safety case worker has to present when visiting a campus. Specifically, they can be asked to confirm their identification, but you can't keep a digital record of their personal um driver's license andor identifying information. And so this uh proposed changes to JLF will will incorporate that proposed statutory change. And I

071don't have anything further to prevent, Mr. Shy. So, >> any other comments from the board? >> We'll consider >> No, thank you. >> We'll consider the second read and adoption in your October meeting. >> Wonderful. Thank you very much, Miss McClennon, for your expertise in interpreting these new laws. Appreciate it. >> Thank you. >> Next item is the consent agenda. There were no edits to it. So, we are going to take a vote with the board on consent agenda items A through R. Um, I need a motion to accept the consent agenda as is. >> I move that we accept the consent agenda. >> Do I I'll second that motion. Um, Dr. Patinsky, your vote. >> I. >> Miss Carney? >> I. and an I from me. It passes 300. Next action item number nine

072is the approval of strategic plan including KPIs and wildly important goals for the 2526 school year. >> Thank you, Vice President Shy, members of the governing board. Uh you have in front of you in your in your packet and hopefully we'll be able to put up on the screen the two wildly important goals that were the outgrowth of our conversation at the study session. We had started with versions that were a little bit different than what you see here today. And I want to talk about the reasons why we landed where we are here. And I'll also uh suggest that rather than taking final action this evening, uh we put it on the October 7th agenda for final approval so that all five board members can be present and weigh in on the on the

073wildly important goals. But we we first talked about academic excellence and mathematics was our area of focus. Uh when you think about wildly important goals, one of the um most important things to do is to identify what's the lever that will have the greatest systemic change in in moving our organization forward. And when we look at our achievement scores, math is is an area of that has been an area of concern and opportunity for improvement for a number of years. I want to uh clarify what the wig states and what it doesn't state because I think there are some misconceptions about that. So the the wig is uh by May of 2030. So in five years we uh will increase from 25% to 75% of eighth graders successfully completing algebra 1 or other advanced math

074coursework with an annual increase of 3% proficiency as measured by AASA. So the first thing that we're proposing is that we raise the expectations by creating opportunities for eighth grade students to successfully complete algebra 1 or other ma advanced math coursework. That absolutely has an impact on the entire system, elementary moving all the way up. But we have research and evidence from across the country with demographically diverse districts and students. We're moving in this direction by raising the bar at that level. students have stepped up to those expectations and performed at levels that sometimes people aren't sure they can. Now, not everybody loves math. Uh, and part of our commitment as a district is to help everyone think of themselves as a mathematician or someone who is a math person. We don't just say, "Oh,

075you're not a reader, so you get to opt out of that." We also don't want people to think that they can opt out of math. What we want to do is build the skills intentionally from the very beginning of their experience in Scottsdale all the way through. And from a high school perspective, it doesn't mean that there won't be algebra at the high school. There'll be many uh students who may need to take it in ninth grade. But the movement towards doing as much as we can in eighth grade creates a different level of opportunity for students when they get to high school. So for those who want advanced math, uh they're going to be able to pursue that pretty aggressively. for those who are going to be able to satisfy their math requirements early

076because they do algebra in eighth grade, they can pursue other areas of interest and passions. And so there's a win-win for everyone in this. So it's raising the bar by moving the algebra expectation down to eighth grade and then doubling down on our support at the elementary level and the middle school level to achieve these outcomes. When it comes to the enrollment goal, uh we know that that the bottom line, the funding for our district is driven by average daily membership, the number of students that we have. And we had a lot of conversation about what this might look like. And one of the data points that surfaced is the capture rate from inboundary students, those who are school age that live within the boundaries of SUSD. The most recent demographic data from 22 23

077shows that our capture rate is about 55%. If you go back to 2010, our capture rate was about 71%. In that intervening period of time, we've seen an increase in the number of options for parents from increase in charter schools, private and parochial options, and uh within the last few years, the expansion of the empowerment scholarship where parents can get ESAs. So, we're swimming upstream when it comes to how we capture more of our school age population. And yet, we think it's a really important, wildly important goal for the district. The question that I would have is we know that the bottom line is the number of students whether or not they live within our district. If they're enrolled in our district, that makes a difference from a financial perspective. Looking at the preliminary data

078for this year, 25% of our current students are open enrolled from out of district. 75% of our students are either in boundary or they're open enrolled, but they live within our district. And so 25% come from neighboring districts. That's a pretty significant number. So the the question that I have going back to our study session is should this be a two-part enrollment goal that also acknowledges the impact of 25% of our enrollment being tied to out of district students and families choosing Scottsdale or do we simply focus on the increase of capture rate within boundary? Either way is acceptable from the administrative perspective because we're not going to ignore the second one. But it's one of the the questions that I was hoping that we could solidify in the conversation tonight before we bring back

079a final recommendation on October 7th. >> Any comments from board members? >> Yeah, I'm happy to go first. Um, first off, I agree with waiting until our next meeting when we're all together and able to address it um through even more deliberation. I want to applaud the district and the leadership for taking for making the recommendation of a multi-year objective. I think hard things take time and as we know we've had, you know, incredible superintendent turnover, just had a lot of turmoil in our district. And so to be in a position where we can signal to the community around these two things that are very important to us that we've got, you know, we've got a place that we're working towards uh getting to and we're going to give ourselves time to make incremental progress

080and we may not come out of the gate immediately. Some of these things, if you think about the ripple effect in math of, you know, making improvements in elementary that then cascade to middle that then cascade to to high school. So, I'm personally very supportive of shifting from an annual objective to a to a multi-year objective. On the question of of math, um I do think and granted this is a bias and like I said, it's where I am right now in in New York attending an event around competency based um personalized competency based learning. When it comes to to math education, we know that so much of math, especially algebra, is based on predecessor skills. And these things kind of build. And so, you know, to say that someone is a seventh grade math

081proficient, you know, that means that there's things they're grabbing from third grade and fourth grade and fifth grade and sixth grade. And if they didn't master one of those things, then putting themselves and just focusing on getting to grade level as opposed to dealing with those predecessor skill deficiencies uh is probably not productive. So I still think and would encourage us to spend a little bit of time um reviewing whether there are more kind of skill oriented, competency oriented, gainoriented metrics that we can put in place that are a little less grade level centric and much more about um just continuing to strengthen the ability of students to succeed in math. um because you know as one of the speakers said to have folks in eighth grade who cannot perform at that level obviously doesn't

082do uh anyone any good um but agree that math is the wig and agree in algebra uh in particular and then on the enrollment capture rate I was very vocal at the study session and uh I respect my fellow governing board members who have a different perspective uh one of which is in the room there um so I wonder who that could be but uh I I still focus uh more specifically on the capture rate. I think it's so critical that we draw our enrollments and our support from the district that also is going to be voting on overrides and so many other dimensions. And I don't love the idea that we're going to start, you know, quote unquote taking students from other public districts that are also dealing with their own enrollment growth goals,

083although obviously we want to serve all comers. Um, so I I really would keep us focused on the capture rate and let's reverse this trend and have uh Scottsdale be the first choice of families in our district first and foremost. So, thanks for the opportunity to weigh in. >> Thank you, Dr. Patinsky. Miss Carney. >> Yes, thank you. And I uh want to second I was going to say exactly what board member Patinsky uh just said. I agree that I would like to see our focus be on improving the capture rate uh of eligible inboundary uh families. So I agree with that. I also want to know are we going to be walking through the KPIs because we did not touch on those last meeting and I didn't know if we were doing that tonight.

084>> We can answer any specific questions you have about the KPIs but we didn't have a planned presentation. uh and if we want a presentation on October 7th, we can be prepared for that. Uh I I uh was coming into the meeting with the expectation that we would table for final approval knowing we didn't have all of the members in the room, but happy to talk about any specific KPI if there are questions. >> Okay, great. I do have a question on the uh optimized resources under increased student enrollment. Uh I did have a concern on that. Um it shows 5225 the SUSD K through11 enrollment is 18,657. Uh yet on Dr. Bachnner's slide from the last meeting um her slide said that 52225 the SUSD K11 enrollment was 18,15. So that's a discrepancy of

085552. And I'm just wondering um what am I missing? We'll we'll work with Dr. Bachna to confirm the the correct number there. It could have been just a a keying error, but we'll we'll check and see and we'll make sure that we have the number that ties out to what was uh what's in her records. Thank you for pointing that out. >> Yeah. Well, I know we had an issue with this same goal last year and I just want to make sure that we, you know, get it right this time. Thank you. >> Thank you, Miss Carney. Um, from my side, uh, on the math, um, very cognizant of this balance of trying to raise the bar for our students yet not set students up for failure. Um, I know in the conversation there was

086fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh. So, it's not just, you know, everything happens in eighth grade. This is a a leadup. So, um, there's a couple of things in there on the progress indicators, um, about fifth and sixth and percent of students in grades three, four, five, and accelerated. Um, I would suggest to be maybe a little more explicit on those so that we know if we're on track or not because we can see a couple years coming through the pipeline. If we see those numbers not moving, then we know we're not going to hit the eighth grade goal three years from now. So, I think it'd be incumbent upon us to be a little more prescriptive on some of those numbers so that at least we can keep track. So, that I think would be helpful

087um with a long-term goal. Um on the enrollment side, um I said this the study session, the denominator we're going to use to calculate that, let's make sure we state where that's coming from, like if that's going to require a demographic study. because I know there's going to be a meeting a year from now and two years from now where my fellow board members and I are sitting and saying did we meet the goal and we have to calculate it with a numerator and a denominator and if we don't know what that is for the capture rate we're all going to be taking swag. So, let's find that out now if that's going to cost us because we have to do a de demographic study. Um, I just want to make sure we're very clear

088because we've already calculated did we hit this goal or not? And I don't want to be um leaving that to chance or um uncertainty when we calculate it. Any other comments? Uh well, with that, I'll make a motion to uh table the approval of strategic plan, including KPIs and wildly important goals for the 2025 2026 school year. >> Thank you, Miss Carney. Do I have a second for that motion? >> I'll second. >> Great. So, we have a motion to table um uh take a vote on it. Dr. Patinsky, I >> Miss Carney, I >> and it's an I from me. 30 vote passes to table. Next item 10. Any future items? Uh board members, any topics proposed for future items? >> Not at this time. Thank you. >> Great. >> Same. >> Uh next

089uh is the dates for upcoming upcoming meeting. Our next meeting is uh September 30, 2025, 6 pm. special governing boarding governing board meeting here at Coronado High School. And with that, do I have a motion to adjurnn? >> I move that we adjourn. >> I second. >> We have a motion to adjurnn. Dr. Patinsky. >> I miss Carney. >> I I from me. Three to adjourn. Thank you very much. >> Thank you all. >> Thank you.

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