001e e e thank you all so glad to see so many people here to celebrate and share good thoughts on behalf of our community I want to call this meeting to order let's stand for the Pledge of Allegiance I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all thank you we'll do roll call Dr pensy uh Matthew binsky Karen Warner Amy Carney and Donna Lewis and Mike shery is out for his birthday so we're missing him but uh he'll be absent today uh I move to approve the agenda as presented I've got an item I'd like to pull please all right I'd like to pull uh item 7e monthly expenditure report from February 1st
002to the 13th of 2025 uh off the consent agenda please okay any others okay I move to uh accept uh to approve the agenda as presented knowing that consent agenda item 7e will be pulled for discussion I second them all those in favor I I all right and I need my meeting decorum statement is this is this the one right here here it is okay thank you citizens attending and are participating in Scottsdale unified school district meetings either in person virtually or telephonically are required to observe the same Rules of Order and decorum applicable to members of the governing board and staff unauthorized remarks or demonstrations from members of the audience yells outbursts Andor other disruptions are not permitted thank you everyone and that moves us to student and staff recognition Dr Menzel best part
003of the night good evening president Lewis and governing board members students staff and family and community members who are joining us to recognize just a few of the amazing things that are happening here in scottsvale Unified School District tonight I'd like to invite forward Dr pisy and Dr dod's Karen as we're going to celebrate uh some very special students and then a very special staff member David's making his way it's like the Oscars find your way please thank you Dr menel good evening president Lewis vice president shy who's not here um governing board members Dr menel and Mrs Wagner uh we would like to invite a pair of middle school students Fabian Marquez Rodriguez from tonellas 8th grade class and Landry Brer from Breer excuse me from Engles side's sixth grade class along with their
004principales Dr J and Dr Michael not here yet okay sure and face toward our governing board uh any of these students teachers who are also here tonight if you are here you are welcome to join us at the podium Dr P will also be here because the recognition we want to provide is to honor students who are incredible spellers not just in English but also in Spanish in January both of these fine young students outs spelled their way to win the susd spelling bees in which they competed on backtack days Fabian on the Spanish spelling be and Landry in the scripts District spelling be to tell us a little bit about Fabian I'm going to turn things over to Dr Pinsky thank you Dr dods uh good evening governing board um I'd also like to
005invite Mr chongo up he's the Spanish teacher at Tona Middle School um teacher to Mr Fabian is I think he might be on his on his way tonight we are honored to recognize a remarkable achievement uh for student Fabian Marcus Rodriguez an eighth grader at tlea Middle School on January 23rd at cornado here at cornado high school Fabian showcased his incredible talent in the third annual Spanish spelling be and was declared the winner this year's competition brought together Spanish students from all of our susd middle schools with students enduring many rigorous rounds to determine the ganador the winner of the bee fabian's hard work and dedication truly shown through uh culminating in his victory his key to success was spelling the word yve which means key in espanol ultimately declaring him the Campion the champion
006I'd like to extend our heartfelt thanks to fabian's family for their support um who are on their way they're in route also Mr Ivan chongo Fabian Spanish teacher um your guidance without a doubt um got him the victory also thank you to Dr Jay his school principal give it up for Fabian [Applause] and we'll keep an eye out for him to be sure he gets recognized um another neat celebration is the teaching and learning team uh we oversee the District spelling be and that is where our friend Landry won and he won with the word astringent on the very day after the Spanish spelling be we're proud of you Landry two weeks later he and the top five finishers from our district spell be went on to compete in the region 2 spelling be hosted
007with our neighbors over in Cave Creek Unified School District Landry hung in there for five rounds I bet you were like nervous and excited all at the same time do you remember your word that heard the Fateful Bell contrivance contrivance contrivance we can give the governing board a spelling test okay I do think board member Carney was a speller back in her uh elementary school days and was a spelling be Champion so you guys could have a spell off might be kind of fun in espanol as well yes um but we are very proud of you as for Fabian um he will be coming right here to Coronado High School where he will study music and of course continue in with his spelling um Landry I imagine you will go to Arcadia High School perhaps
008um but he has a few years I bet we'll see him again we know that you've put long hours into preparing yourselves for the spelling be and we are happy that your efforts have been rewarded we want to congratulate you and present you with a challenge coin to recognize your accomplishments here in [Applause] susd we'll be sure we get Fabian to give you guys all a wave and a hello um and me time you all will go take your photo outside I'm going to stay right here for a minute thank [Applause] you excellent Educators to date are unquestionably behind the success of the two students that we just met at Laguna Elementary School we've heard of just such an educator and I'd like for you to meet her I'd like to invite gifted specialist Stephanie
009Shamy to join here at the podium along with a host of fans and supporters um H I'm proud of you [Applause] um I'd like to invite her current principal Chrissy Kelly and past lagona principles Dr Katie root and Dr Brooke Williams Katie root I'd also like to invite our elementary math coach Donna Dempsey to join us here tonight it is certainly old home night um here at the podium one of the highest accolades possible for K12 stem Educators in the United States is the presidential award for excellence in Mathematics and Science teaching and you know what happens I always get for cl when I get so proud of our teachers so pardon me um each year up to 110 outstanding Educators from ac across the country are recognized by the White House for their passion
010dedication and impact in the classroom recipients of the presidential award represent the best of stem education demonstrating deep content knowledge of the subjects they teach and the ability to motivate and enable Student Success at our lagona elementary school in the heart of Scottsdale Ranch there is a gifted specialist Stephanie Shamy here to tell us a little bit about this terrific and dedicated teacher The Mastermind behind the school's maker space is her current principal Mrs [Applause] Kelly good evening governing board good evening Mrs Shamy distinguish guests I am thrilled to present my amazing friend colleague and gifted teacher Stephanie Shamy for this amazing award she's been a fixture at Laguna for over 31 years if you can believe it she has taught three of my four children but she knows all the children whether they're in
011her class or not she's often in lagona before school after school on the weekends with all of her family they are a fixt shortt lagona as well she helps usually on the weekends with prodile soul Parade floats maker space all kinds of functions like math Olympiad spelling be and many more she helps her colleagues become national board certified she's always there for anyone and everyone it is heartwarming to see good things happen to good people and I'm selfishly hoping I get to tag along to the White House with her but this has been a long time coming she is a dedicated teacher she's a wonderful fixture at lagona and we are so proud of her congratulations Mrs Shamy [Applause] Stephanie we can only imagine what a great honor this is to be named one of
012the nation's very best stem Educators would you like to say anything I would just like to much I appreciate all these wonderful people in my life thank you Donna without her I wouldn't be standing here today to get this award so thank you and our my fantastic former principal Brooke Williams and Katie r thank you and Kelly thank you and Dr dods these two conspir to get me to move from classroom teacher to gifted specialist and every single one of you the teaching and learning team the school board thank you so much for all the yeses that you give us about doing all these extracurricular wonderful programs to support student learning and have it be so meaningful to them and our maker space and our the families and the [Applause] my last but not least
013I really really appreciate my family who truly is at school with me all the time has sacrificed my time and they're there on the stage setting up and all over so thank you to my wonderful family my team [Applause] Stephanie we'd like to offer you this susd challenge coin while it pale pales in comparison to the $10,000 award you will receive from the National Science Foundation a signed certificate from the president of the United States and opportunities to join a national cohort of award-winning stem teachers it is most heartfelt for us to give you this recognition you are so deserving thank you [Applause] congratulations Miss Shamy uh I just also want to point out she is an susd Legacy oh right I am a graduate of this school corado absolutely our two boys graduated from
014that Dr thank you for everything um and we'd like to invite Dr P back to the podium to recognize our Tonia Spanish spelling be winner we just want to invite Fabian up and Dr Jay and uh fabian's mom is with him as well congratulations to Fabian for winning the third annual Spanish spelling be round of applause felices SA faan so we have one final giant celebration and I'd like to invite to the podium assistant superintendent for Education Services Lee Mitchell oh thank you so much Dr Menzel good evening president Lewis governing board members susd families and friends uh as we've already witnessed from two previous celebrations and if you've witnessed public education even from a distance it is no small task creating and operating a successful learning institution I hesitate to use the perhaps timeworn
015expression it takes a village um but that statement could not be more accurate I'd like to take this opportunity to introduce you to three of ssd's Highly Successful Villages Hokum Elementary School led by principal Chuck rentala Navajo Elementary School led by principal patof and peblo Elementary [Applause] School led by principal Shelly humm principls along with your Falcon Buffalo and dust devil teachers staff students and family supporters please join me at the podium [Applause] so exciting all right as they are all making their way up I want you to just take a look around and I'm so excited to introduce you please please meet Scottdale Unified School District's Arizona Educational Foundation A+ Schools of Excellence for 2025 so [Applause] awesome each one of these schools truly went all in to examine every aspect of their operations
016to be able to apply for this most prestigious of Arizona Public School recognitions there were no guarantees that they would be successful regardless of the outcome however they stood to learn something about their schools that would make them better better for students better for teachers and staff and better for their communities they also were able to lean on and learn from the experiences of our current and past susd A+ schools including Redfield Cherokee and peblo whose recertification as an A+ School of Excellence we are celebrating tonight thank you principal humm for helping Shepherd so many of your colleagues through this process and if you wouldn't mind to come please kick off some comments about your school okay um I just got told like half an hour ago I was doing this but I'm good on
017the fly so uh governing board members Dr menel and glattus just wanted to say this is a very special celebration because it literally takes every single person on the campus including parents staff members certified members kids everybody that's involved in the school Community to be a part of A+ so that is why I think it's one of the more special celebrations because everybody owns it everyone had a part in it and from what I understand of our interviews were like tear jerking and amazing and I just want to say thank you to my entire staff and parents and kids and even our main architect came tonight to celebrate us so thank you so much all right congratulations all right Mr rentala you're up next all right uh thank you governing bour thank you uh Dr
018menel uh just real fast want to say congratulations and uh thank you to the hokom staff students and Community uh earning the A+ School of Excellence designation is validation of both the great work taking place on campus each and every day uh and the special place that hokom elementary school is uh a special thank you to our application authors many of who are in the crowd here right now and our hom AP for their support uh with our application and site visit we were told we had excellent snacks so so so so proud um this was on a personal note this was one of the final uh items I wanted to check off before retiring so um really special that we pulled it off all right congratulations all right principal patoff you ready to come
019on up here and talk about the awesome Navajo team all right thank you so I'd just like to say principal humm principal rala and ditto thank you good work that's same thing oh no um so I just like to say thank you for taking the time to acknowledge uh peblo ho Comm and Navajo uh it was a lot of work a lot of dedication from the students staff and community over a year it took us to outline this process well and again kudos to principal hum help Chuck and I our staff and community on what to do that so it takes a lot to go through it from an outside lens and perspective a 40-some page application and really helped our school grow and look at areas that we can improve for that continuous Improvement
020cycle but a shout out to all the dedicated staff in this room standing because kids thank [Applause] you thank you so much for those heartfelt words principles we are so grateful for what you and your schools do to strengthen communities and strengthen Scottsdale Unified School District and the students you guys may not realize it yet but you will definitely hearken back or think back to your educational Journeys at hokom Navajo and peblo at some point in the future and you will fully understand that you were a part of something excellent you demonstrate excellence and you will get to carry that forward throughout your whole entire lives principles I'm going to give you each stack of challenge coins please accept these um and use them with your staffs to Comm to commemorate this incredible achievement so
021if we can hear it again one more time for our A+ [Applause] schools congratulations to all three of these schools this is an extraordinary validation of the amazing work we know you do every day thank you for being what you are for our students in these three schools nice nice job any way any way we can Mo consent agenda up this late probably not I was just thinking about the people here for the principal selection waiting through all I'm talking about our new principles if there's people here that have to sit through all that discussion [Music] Beau what are they [Music] Le all right what a great positive energy truly difficult achievements something to be proud of thank you all so much this brings us to our superintendent comments well thank you president Lewis and
022members of the governing board it's really hard to top those celebrations but I do have a few things to point out March is a really busy month uh and we celebrate a lot of um individuals and and groups that help make our school system special uh this week is National School breakfast week uh during uh March 3rd through 7th and we celebrate the importance of a nutritious School breakfast in fueling students learning and success it's also National School Social Work appreciation week and we thank our incredible School social workers for their unwavering support for our students and families who help create positive supportive School communities we are also uh wrapping up read Across America week which started on Sunday and runs through Thursday among ssd's Traditions taking place this week student athletes from Saro High
023School visit their feeder elementary schools to read to the students March is also women's History Month recognizing the varied accomplishments of women throughout history this year's theme is particularly appropo for a school district it's called moving forward together women educating and inspiring Generations March is also music in our schools month and this is the 40th anniversary of this celebration to raise awareness of the importance of music education for all children there's a great story in this month's City Sun Times that features two of ssd's outstanding music educators peblo Elementary's chrisy bandalin and chaperel high school Sammy Brower I recommend everyone give it a read and speaking of music and the Arts I want to take this opportunity to invite all of you to the third annual Scottsdale family Arts Fest that will take place at
024ASU Sky song the first Friday and Saturday after spring break on March 21st and 22nd starts in the evening that Friday 5: to 9: and then uh Saturday morning it's a great free two-day Festival featuring performances and exhibitions by our outstandingly and outrageously talented SD students family friendly Arts activities by Our Community Partners at scotdale Arts learning and Innovation and the annual Ali orte empty bowls fundraiser in which you'll find SSD student Creations up for bid interactive demonstrations from City of Scottsdale departments and when you get really thirsty and hungry from all of that entertainment there'll be really great locally based food trucks to keep you hydrated and nourished we invite the entire Community to participate it is an experience that you won't uh soon forget also this past Friday we celebrated the Third blue
025zones approved susd school when we had the blue zones folks come out to recognize Pima Elementary so I want to give a shout out to Pima and finally I want to say to all of our staff students and families that I hope you have a wonderful restful and safe spring break this coming week thank you thank you Dr Manzel as we move into public comments I will read the public comment statement uh in compliance with open meeting law the governing board may not discuss or take action tonight on any matters raised during public comments that are not on the agenda however the governing board members May respond to direct criticism ask staff to review a matter or that matter may be placed on a future agenda public comments will be conducted in accordance with board
026policy BH as a reminder each speaker will have two minutes the screen will indicate the time please be prepared to close your comments and relinquish the floor at the conclusion of your time the board asks that each speaker please introduce yourself by stating your name and whether you live within our school district for Clarity on the record we thank you for your time and attendance here this evening and your cooperation in following the meeting decorum and protocols I will read the name of the speaker when you hear your name could you please come up to the podium I will read the name of the next speaker to be ready on Deck once you start speaking your time will start so we have six speakers this evening and Jenny Clark is first and Jeff rate is
027our second speaker Jenny come on up can I do good evening board my name is Jenny Clark and my husband and I live within the boundaries of SD and one of my children was recently evaluated and qualified for special education services through proportionate share but our child has been effectively blocked like dozens of others from receiving the special education services and related funding that they qualify for I extremely familiar with this process as a former appointed member to the Arizona State Board of Education by former Governor Doug Ducey and as a parent advocate for over seven years under the individuals with disabilities Education Act districts are required to spend a portion of their funds on private school children with disabilities the US Department of Education outlines that when a child qualifies for proportionate share funds
028or Services quote there is a preference for the services to be provided in the private school because the department generally believes that unless there is a compelling ration now for these services to be provided offsite leas should provide services onsite at the child's private school so as not to unduly disrupt the child's educational experience end quote according to the February 10th memo which I have here that you received from your director of special education susd has received nearly $2,310 in The Last 5 Years and only 7 students such as my child were served why because susd requires parents to take off work drive our children to an SSD school during their school day and that an SSD teacher whom they do not know will provide the speech therapy and reading support that our children qualify
029for in a group setting this is in direct violation of the US Department of Education official guidance I would like to ask the board to direct the director of special education to release these proportionate share funds and investigate why why they have not been spent in The Last 5 Years Paradise Valley Unified has done an incredible job under proportionate share I know because one of my other children qualif last year and they did a block grant allowing us to get services at our private school the board has a chance to remedy this grave error thank you thank you Jeff R is next and uh Marina Lee will be on deck board member Carney what is your reaction when you come home from work one day and find out a male substitute teacher repeatedly referred to
030your daughter with masculine first names to the laughter of her classmates this was done without your knowledge and approval then you find out if this teacher would have called your daughter by her actual name the one and the roster the teacher was given by the office that morning Dr Manzel would have arranged for that teacher to be suspended and fired on January 9th a federal judge issued a direct order to every superintendant and school board in the country it is unconstitutional for a school district to force a teacher to call a girl by a male name he ruled that would violate the teacher's First Amendment right to freedom of speech and there cannot be free speech retaliation let me repeat no free speech retaliation as I stand before you Dr Manzel will not let me
031sub in the Scottsdale schools won't let me be a paid coach is blocking me from doing my veteran presentations and stole $1,800 of my money and gave it to a close personal friend of a former board president for supporting his woke agenda every day that this retribution goes on that super intendent and youi board members are in violation of a direct order from a federal judge your following advice from the law firm Gus Rosen Feld recall two years ago the secret dossier National Scandal they advised the Democratic lead board to ignore the parents so they sued in the settlement was $200,000 now they're advising you to to ignore me there were two lawsuits settled around the judge's decision both involved teachers who were forced to resign rather than call Girls by masculine names the first
032one just settled for $450,000 the second one just settled for $560,000 a school district that violates a teacher's civil rights is going to pay a Steve price maybe I should file a complaint with President Trump's Department of Justice I gave my Blood Sweat and Tears as an 18-year-old infantry in Vietnam so that you can have your freedom of speech in fact all your freedoms and you three Democrats won't even talk to me thank you uh Marino Lee and Mike bengert is uh next on Deck good evening members of the board I'm the owner of the Brigade Football League that plays at Cherokee Elementary about 24 Saturdays a year this season we had the privilege of having 800 kids in our league our involvement in the Cherokee Community goes far beyond just the games for the
033past three years we have sponsored a whole at the Cherokee Golf Tournament donated to their silent auction for the last four years and help sponsor children who can not afford the registration fees this season that number was about 50 kids which is about $88,000 in registration fees that we covered earlier in the fall we had a child um going to a diabetic coma and we raised $10,000 in two weeks this is the power of our community we believe that every child should have the opportunity to play and that sport should always be a positive experience for them recently there have been some concerns raised by neighbors regarding our league these concerns range from the sound of whistles and excite and excited parents to issues with parking and in some cases the perceived disruption of their
034backyard spaces however I believe the community benefits from our league far outweigh these concerns our activities are in full compliance with all regulations and no laws are being broken we cannot allow the concerns of a few to overshadow overshadow the benefits that many children and families in our community gain from participating in our program I would invite all of you to come out the next Saturday where at Cherokee March 22nd and see what our community is all about thank you for your time and consideration thank you Mike bengard and TJ Buckley will be in deck on Deck as members of the susd governing board you need to assert your legal Authority and responsibility to manage the district and stop seeding your power to Dr Menzel the FY 2526 budget is the place to start the
035initial budget present presented was prepared with virtually no input from this board in response to Dr P pinsky's question about board input Dr Menzel said you missed your opportunity last year when the Staffing student ratios were established this board will ultimately approve a budget for next year making it your budget not Dr Menzel's everyone talks about the importance of academic results and providing a worldclass education if you truly believe that there should be it should be reflected in the budget Dr Menzel's budget doesn't the new a auditor General's report shows that susd is at historic lows for classroom spending and teacher salaries are below the state average Dr Pinsky was right when he said that unless there are fundamental changes made in the expense structure we will be back doing the same thing again next
036year Why not start looking at the expense structure now cutting 12 District staff positions for next year represents 3% of a staff of over 400 not exactly drastic Cuts why is no one asking what the District staff is doing for example what are the 13 full-time equivalent staff in desegregation doing or 13 working the state and federal titles one two and five or how about 10 working student information do we need seven full-time equivalent working and Communications and seven in Community Education tell Miss kosers you want a budget without cuts to school level instructional position positions tell Dr Menzel you want to schedule the public hearing before the final budget is presented to the board and to allow for a reasonable time for comments 2 minutes is too short to reverse the trend of declining
037enrollment there needs to be improving in the academic outcomes cutting teachers and adding unlicensed social workers will not improve test scores doing so tells the community that you are not serious about education the newly elected board members ran on protecting susd I suggest that the Board needs to start protecting the students in KNC Dr Menzel he works for you thank you Mike TJ and uh Stockton you're on Deck Stockton Schultz uh good evening um TJ Buckley sea president uh I just wanted to talk a little bit about the compensation package in front of you uh there's a lot of complicated different things when it comes to that um we allocated uh $2.5 million in additional not additional funding because one one million of that went to insurance this is not the first time that I've
038been in front of this board or had conversations with any of you um so what we're looking at is uh we have insurance major Insurance hikes Across the Nation right so we wanted to help our employees best way that we could do that was to offer $1 million in um extra insurance um funding I'm messing up the words on that but that's how that goes um and what that would increase that's about a 5% increase in um funding there we know from where we were last year a 5% increase in District Insurance uh if put on to premiums equates to about a 70% um insurance premium increase our teachers our staff members all staff members not just teachers everyone here that is extremely hard to handle from a financial standpoint uh tough conversations had to
039be had ratios got increased in multiple groups uh we are as sea looking at each one of those ratio to make sure that our people are not overburdened we are here to protect our people and to help with the uh with their voice part of that overburden means that we know that if they get overburdened that that's going to hurt our students we would never allow that to happen uh our students are our number one we are with them every single day they are who we work with every day those are the relationships that we build uh this agreement uh was made with uh all of these agreements there's about 20 hours that each negotiator was at the table whether it's agreement or compensation we urge that the board uh supports and trusts the employees
040of susd to do what's best for SSD thank you thank you TJ and Stockton hello everyone thank you for the time Dr Mensel and the board um I'll be less controversial I'm just here to support an awesome uh guy in Ino um I I'm in a unique uh position that I'm not only a number one I want to tell you this Dr menel I'm a uh Cherokee cocoa pot and chaperel graduate um and I have four kids currently in the school system um and I'm a in a unique position where I have worked with Marino as a coach and all of my uh or my two boys have gone through flag football at Cherokee and I would hate to see um just a few people complaining about uh football and kids being active um uh
041ruin that for everyone and I also am in another unique position because I'm also a very close neighbor to Cherokee and board member Carney can attest to that because we're neighbors uh I live 288 ft from the school and I can tell you there's nothing better to hear in the world than kids laughing cheering and maybe a couple whistles um and all that means is that they're being active so thank you the time beautiful thank you all so much I have learned after talking for a brief second with uh responses to that I'm so sorry I keep doing that what responses if any does our board have relative to public comments uh Miss Werner Mr Lee I want to thank you for what you're doing my boys benefited from playing flag football at um Cherokee
042one of them had a college paid for because of that so thank you and whatever you need please reach out to me so we can you know come to some sort of agreement with the neighbors uh Dr Manzel if you could please provide the board with uh what Miss Clark was referencing it sounds pretty horrifying thank you thank you any others all right I have learned that I uh can move the order of our uh agenda uh under uh policy B bedb and uh it and I want to thank uh Miss Carney for that suggestion and and checking with uh our Council about that and the reason is because there's so many people in the room and our next set of agendas might involve some lengthy discussion and I thought you might appreciate the movement
043of our consent agenda so I will go ahead and make the motion that consent agenda item seven uh minus 7e be uh approved as presented I need a second the president is that the principal approval of the principal yes second all those in favor hi all right thank you and we will hold on 7 e we're gonna and we want to say thank you I get I can take all the help I can get uh we want to say congratulations to Maggie fennon and Zack Woodward for being selected as principal they're both internal want to say anything so so it it's a true joy to be able to uh celebrate the two assistant principles who were selected to be principles in your buildings what we know through the process is that you have developed deep
044relationships with the staff the parents and the communities that you serve there is tremendous joy and excitement about the leadership on the on the horizon so we're looking forward to you stepping into those roles and thank you for being willing to continue to serve students in Scottsdale Miss Warner you're okay y congratulations now do I finish consent or do I go back okay let's just finish it okay so item 7e has been pulled and if anybody would like to go ahead and take off you're welcome go ahead and feel free comfortable uh and we'll move to consent agenda item 7e uh Miss Warner no that was Miss Carney thank you president Lewis um yes I asked to PLL uh consent agenda item 7 e monthly expenditure report to discuss the expenditure of Lobby services from
045State 48 public affairs uh I've noticed that we've been paying State 48 public affairs $3,000 every month for a while now at the same time we're also paying for membership of greater Phoenix educational management Council of which state 48 Affairs lobbyist Alexis sorf is paid as their advocacy coordinator consultant and uh which is a conflict having lobbyist representation is not something many districts do and we did not do this until fairly recently therefore in this time of unfortunate budget cuts I would like to request that the superintendent dissolve all contracts and agreements with State 48 public affairs so we may put those needed funds toward our school sites agenda you want to speak to that uh Council I want to just confirm my understanding there's not an agenda item to dissolve a contract on the
046on the payments that are in front of the governing board that would need to be a separate agenda item uh that's correct Dr menel and I think the accounts pay will report is a monthly report that's required out of policy DJ I believe uh so this isn't an action item I believe it's just a well it was on consent so it's it's approval of accepting the expenditure report right so it's not approval of the expenditures themselves correct it's agreement to pay a bill is that what I'm hearing no it it's a monthly notice to the board of these what or what the expenditures were Miss crer did you want to chime in no okay the the the policy was changed and during the discussions we agreed that on a monthly basis we would reflect all
047of those things on the agenda you have separate accounts payable vouchers and separate pay uh payroll vouchers that are approved by the board this is just a statement of those things that were the monies that were spent as previous viously authorized by the board so in order to take any action it would be need to be on a future agenda topic correct and I'm I'm planning to email that but I just wanted to state in in public that I will be emailing that um and it was on our agenda tonight so yeah all right so as of now it's a bill to pay or an approval of a notification okay go ahead Dr well I don't want to add to the interpretations uh it doesn't take a village to interpret um but I yeah it's
048just us accepting a report that's all accepting the report okay any other questions or comments okay um I move that we accept the report as presented under 7e I move you're seconding okay Dr pensy seconding all those in favor I I thank you all right motion passes unanimously um and there's a request for a future agenda item right I'll get to that at the end of the meeting the end yeah thank you okay we are now at item six information discussion and our first presenter tonight Dr Pensky will sorry Dr you don't know what's in the water bottle just uh awful all right Dr Manel we are going to hear our first read for the secondary science curriculum ad adoption for 2526 thank you president Lewis I'd like to invite forward Dr Kim dods Karen
049and Johanna Kaiser to to give us a quick review of where we are with respect to the science curriculum adoption thank you good evening board president Dr Lewis members of the board Dr Mensel Miss Wagner and everybody present I'm honored to stand before you here tonight alongside Miss Johanna Kaiser our district science coach and the lead facilitator for this curriculum adoption our presentation aims to familiarize you with the curriculum adoption process utilized in susd while we will focus on the specifics of AP biology AP Chemistry IB Biology and IB chemistry I want to emphasize that we have dedicated significant effort over the past few years to refine our processes to establish replicable systems for this crucial work across the disciplines our recommendations align with the susd Strategic plan specific speically goal one academic excellence and
050goal five optimized resources we aim to challenge and Inspire our students to achieve high levels of academic success ensuring they are prepared for postsecondary education and careers additionally we are committed to making sure schools teachers and students have the resources they need to reach success this adoption cycle includes several Advanced science courses AP biology AP Chemistry and IB Biology IB chemistry both higher level and standard level these courses are critical for providing our students with rigorous academic opportunities that prepare them for college and Beyond both the College Board and the international B Laureate require schools to have updated curricula in order to offer these courses with copyrights from within the last 10 years also importantly both IB Biology and IB chemistry courses went through a comprehensive revision and require materials that align with the updated
051course content and pacing our committee is composed of dedicated teachers who bring a wealth of experience and expertise to the table Brandon bogis Randy kofer Jennifer McCall Stacy Rosenfeld and Jackie Wells have all contributed significantly to this process ensuring our recommendations are well informed and comprehensive they're not here tonight um they're prepping for another big day in the classroom tomorrow however I want to read a note from Miss Jackie Wells the IB Biology teacher at deser Mountain High School here's what she wrote the recommended IB Biology curriculum Oxford is going to be such a vital part of teaching the class going forward it will give me many options to differentiate instruction because it has so many resources the textbook the online platform the study book and the practice questions book I'll be able to use
052the traditional textbook to assign reading and give students a deep understanding of the IB Biology syllabus in addition the online platform has so many activities animations and other tools to enhance student learning of the challenging IB Concepts when it comes preparing for the IB tests in May students will now have access to a study guide and an immense amount of practice questions both of which should help students be successful on the high stakes exams as they strive to earn their IB diploma the Oxford curriculum truly is the best curriculum available and I can't wait to start us using it for my students the adoption process has been thorough and transparent we've engaged in committee meetings reviewed materials open the products for a public review and hosted vendor presentations our website provides detailed information about the
053committee's work including meeting agendas minutes and resources this ensures that our process is open and accessible to all stakeholders we even enhanced the process this year by delivering crates of the materials to each High School making it more convenient for teachers to review and provide feedback the committee evaluated materials carefully using a refined rubric which they developed by enhancing previous rubrics to align with the IB and AP course demands and standards it facilitated targeted discussions about specific units and product resources providing a structured framework for our evaluations and the consensus making has been a Cornerstone of our process C the consensus decision making it ensures that all voices are heard and that we reach decisions that reflect the collective will of the group this approach Fosters cooperation and allows for us to move forward with
054the recommendations that are acceptable to all and in this particular adoption the products brought forth to you were everybody's Top Choice so without further Ado the committee recommends the following materials for AP biology biology for the AP course by more at all published by Bedford Freeman and worth for AP chemistry chemistry 14th Edition AP Edition by overb and Chang published by McGraw Hill and for the IB courses IB Biology and IB chemistry course companions by Oxford University press these recommended materials are fully aligned with the AP and IB course descriptions and exam requirements they include extensive resources such as interactive textbooks virtual Labs practice assessments and more the online platforms are userfriendly and integrate with systems like clever and Google Classroom Additionally the materials offer competitive pricing and long-term licensing agreements ensuring both print and
055online access to cater to different teaching and learning needs on this slide and the next you will see the recommended curriculum its cost and the resources included in the purchase we thought it'd be helpful to see how the cost relates at to a pure per pupil expenditure the total estimated cost is of the recommend materials is 124 553,000 which includes both print and digital resources this investment can impact approximately 3,100 students over the next seven years equating to an average overall cost of $39.78 per student per year the committee believes this is a a worthwhile investment in our students education and future success to ensure a smooth implementation we plan on Distributing materials um as they arrive this at the end of this year and this summer followed by professional development in August suc also
056provides ongoing support through IB conferences and AP conferences our goal is to equip our teachers with the tools and knowledge they need to effectively utilize these new resources at this time Dr dods and I can answer questions Dr Pensky did you have a comment yes thank you for a great presentation and all uh the work that went into making the recommendation can you put the budget in context what are we currently spending on our what did we spend on our last adoption cycle to understand how this Compares is it similar an increase a decrease we have all of that information from the past three years years um it's very much on par with what it is but we can provide for you in a board memo those specific numbers um so you don't have to
057go hunting for I want to create more work on par is is par to the question um and then is there an additional budget for that Prof is are there additional expenses associated with professional development conferences the implementation of beyond the resources themselves great question the professional development for these specific resources is embedded in that cost okay um when are when and if teachers do go to IB conferences or the AP summer institutes and conferences um there are additional costs with that each year um provided through either teaching learning or the IB program thank you no other questions uh I I was curious about the parent time that had it was a parent involvement in the conversation this particular committee president Lewis did not involve any parents we did not have any parents who applied
058for the committee um for public review we did not receive any parent feedback but we offered of course and I was mostly interested as a former science teacher about the virtual Labs that just got me going is there an example you might be willing to share that's not lengthy no but I I just know how long I could go on this I won't but I did want to just share that that was an important component um there are so many supplemental curricula that offer Labs that have so many additional costs and we wanted to make sure that those resources are wrapped into our adopted curricula and wouldn't be disappearing um as they as supplementals go and change every year but for the IB Biology and IB chemistry um they are impressive as well as the
059AP Chemistry and AP biology I just think the more Hands-On field oriented simulation oriented we can be the more memorable and longterm it is for students so yes and both all courses require an in-person lab as well per our for state so there's Hands-On and virtual as well beautiful thank you if there are no other questions go ahead I'm sorry go ahead Amy Mrs Carney thank you president Lewis uh since you brought up the parent feedback and review this is still open for review correct until what date correct until April 8th okay so it is at Oak campus until April 8th and where can they where can people find that information so the on the website for um it's on a couple different places you can find it on our district Committee website all of
060our current ongoing committees and you'll see it there as well as when you um hover over academics there's curriculum adoptions or textbook adoptions and you'll see a link to our website there as well that has all the information on the hours and the location um and they have been on public review since mid December through April right great and I will add that the um the US History curriculum review is in the same room room so if people can knock two things out at once if they want to if they're interested so thank you for the presentation great job thank you so much all right that brings us to 6B discuss administrators employment agreement for the 2425 school year Dr Manzel so just by way of background in the spring of 2021 the governing board
061approved policy ha which recognized the associations at that time three now we have four that are recognized and in that policy they also contemplated establish ing the interest based negotiation process so the scussel administrator Association agreement is a product of multiple years of having those interest based negotiating processes I know board member Carney wanted to discuss this we do have members from the SAA bargaining team both members of SAA as well as members of the management team who will be available to answer questions based on uh where you want the discussion to go right all right Miss Carney did you want us to go ahead go ahead okay thank you so much so first I'd like to just say that um I thought that the document the actual uh administrators employment agreement for 2425 was
062attached on the public agenda when it was released uh to the public yesterday but it was not so I asked for that to be included today and I do see that it is now up on um for the public and then I would just like to ask that we um have access to that to put it on to the screen uh as I perfect okay so um on February 18th I did I asked for this agenda item uh to be put on for tonight based on the answer that superintendent Manzel gave to board member pinsky's question last meeting about where in the budget process does the board reflect our priorities and values which is a very good question and superintendent Manzel answered saying the marching orders for the administration were governing board approved so I
063would say when the board gets to weigh in is when you approve those IBN agreements because that sets the path for the future so the board approved this administrator's applo agreement for the 2425 school year on June 11th 2024 as one of 21 items on the consent agenda during a 5H hour 40 minute meeting with real time issues to handle there was never communication or discussion about the Staffing rubric addition and or change with the board the board did received the agenda by email on June 4th and I did see and read the added appendix a staffing rubric which I would ask you to go to page 32 please um where it states oh okay sorry on M 34 there we go I'm looking for appendex a staffing rubric so I'll I'll I'll continue so
064on that Staffing rubric rubric it says administrative support for the following year will be evaluated based on 40th Day attendance and in the event of fiscal reductions the following plan will be presented as an option for discussion and consensus with the IBN team so what I approved last year was for fiscal year 2025 for these uh affected assistant principles if you could scroll down to the next page correct so what I approved was for fiscal year 2025 uh to have ad admin duties to fill gaps across the district and I approve for a conversation to happen this year which is exactly what is happening right now and why I asked for this agenda item so the problem is the board has never really been a part of or privy to any of the discussion prior
065to me asking for this agenda item nor have we gotten any real feedback from the assistant principls or principles to see how they feel and how this would affect them so I have a few questions before we open it up to the other board members so I'm not sure who I direct questions to just to to the group at large group at large okay what um in the Birdwell era I know that the district went to 0.5 assistant principles in some of our schools and it was not successful so we went back to 1.0 assistant principal so why do we think it's going to be successful doing it this time so I would like to invite Dr sackos uh Shannon kroer Dr dansy and Shelley humman to come forward uh because these are the people
066who have been at the IBN process and and uh the conversation took place with respect to a very different framing of the interests that we were working to address and I think it's important to frame those interests related to the language that's in the current agreement do we want to crowd at the podium or Crow at the podium okay here we go right good evening uh governing board members so I know that Miss crer did provide a memo that outlined our process from last year um but I just want to take us a step back to the fall of 2023 um and U Miss kroer myself um and Shelley humman were on the committee and Dr danky just joined us this year um and I just want to take take us back to that point
067in time where the SAA identify three of their interests that being salary benefits and working conditions um of course naturally this is attract and retain so we attract of course our our administrators and our all of our staff um and retain them by raises each year so with declining uh enrollment the increase in operating costs um the group began a very robust discussion um I think we had 15 meetings um at that time 13 uh meetings in which we really talked about what does that look like for each school to have administrative Staffing um that is proportionate to the the respective school so we had our smaller schools um uh where you may have you know I'm just going to make up a number 20 uh staff members to evaluate and a larger school like
068Desert Mountain where you're going to have a hundred and so you look at what is it going to take in terms of student supervision uh the the teacher um supervision and evaluation um with administrative um ratios and so it was important for the team to come up with those administrative ratios much like we have our student ratios for um our um class sizes as well so that was kind of the the thinking that we started back um in IBN um back in the fall of 2023 a little bit background information great thank you so my question is we did this in the past 2018 is and it wasn't successful so we went back to full-time uh APS and I'm just wondering why do we believe that it will be successful this go around so through
069the process um there was a how do how do I scoring rubric at the time and so utilizing their interest the collective team felt as though there are ways in order to make this work um I don't oversee elementary schools so secondary schools have not been impacted so I can't really speak to the success or lack of success at that level but perhaps um Miss H can talk about some of the challenges I know that prior to this meeting this evening um Dr Cruz along with her HR team had a meeting with myself Miss Cerna um and those impacted schools and we talked about some of the uh what worked last time um what were challenges last time and we're allowing the staff members to provide feedback on you know how we can make it
070work um learning from years past so we don't have a solidified plan yet um because we're not telling the staff members um where or the the p s it'll be halime where they have to go we're going through a process in which they can look at do they want elementary middle school or or high school um do they want to work in the North or the or the southern part of the district so they're going to be part of the problem solving um there are no guarantees that you know there aren't there's not going to be no snags in the process um but that's kind of the challenge we're up with right now is with our again declining enrollment over time we're trying to rightsize with admin ratios and that was the Genesis of this
071back in the fall of 2023 okay so can you tell us what what's unique to the role of assistant principal um what might principal have difficulty doing or other staff that assistant principal is responsible for right now what could you give us some examples not do does uh our principles want to share that especially at the elementary level what that might look like since your boots on the ground okay first board member Carney may take a second to address kind of your other question that you asked and I just no I'm not you did perfect Dr sackos I just want to I just want to add on to that which I would say this meeting in and of itself is kind of a microcosm of what leadership looks like where I was up here at
072the podium not an hour ago being celebrated and getting accolades and now I'm at the podium talking about a very tough message that I had to help deliver last year so um I can very much appreciate the conversation I appreciate the the ask of the the tasks and how we feel and I can just speak for um what Dr sackos and Miss kroer have already um echoed which is that this was a very difficult decision last year um we understand that um with leadership it takes really difficult decisions to be made and with declining enrollment um we understand that at the site we are also stewards of fiscal responsibility and so while this directly impacts some of my best colleagues and quite frankly best friends outside of work it certainly was not an easy decision
073so I do appreciate the question I appreciate what you said um I can speak to at least at the elementary World um I do think that it's a partnership between you and your assistant principal in terms of what you want your assistant principal to take on generally and traditionally I would say tasks such as discipline um fall completely a lot of times under the assistant principal not completely but a lot of times yes um things such as day-to-day operations meaning like um Duty schedules and you know making sure that class uh certified staff are where they where they need to be um certainly one of the biggest ones um that I think may have come up in some of your discussions board member Carney is testing being the testing coordinator at the site is also
074a big part of the assistant principal role in elementary school um I know right now um for example at Pueblo we're already well into our testing season because we um test our students with their Spanish proficiency so we start early um and that is a task that my assistant principal is pretty much solely responsible for of course if something was to happen I would need to step in on that but those are just examples of some of those tasks thank you that's yeah that's my concern is how we're going to um handle all the discipline that our assistant principles really are uh in charge of and honestly they're the ones trained to do that I've heard that principles aren't even trained necessarily to handle discipline like the assistant principles is that the case I um
075will kindly disagree I spent 13 years an assistant principal prior to becoming a principal and all of our colleagues have come up through the ranks in that manner um I I would just add that the amount of student discipline comes with the number of students in the school and that's why setting the um administrative Staffing based on a ratio was important okay um Dr sackos I'd like um for the board to hear any feedback or concerns that you have heard um I know um the CERN is not here correct she's not so she probably would have more of the feedback I guess that um what feedback have you heard from principls and assistant principles regarding this change just as early as 5:00 this evening some of those concerns that um Miss humman uh listed were
076you know having to take on uh more of the discipline um the day-to-day you know operations assistant principles typically do that operational piece um so the duties and things of that sort um also you know what happens when a um the principal is at a principal meeting making sure that we we've got um coverage at our at all of our campuses with administrators and right now those are challenges we face when a principal's out and somebody's out sick so we have District staff like Dr Pinsky he loves going out to the schools um we have other uh principles that have even assistant principles at the high school that have gone out to other campuses um and I would say the increase of uh teachers that they would have to um otherwise evaluate so um probably
077the principles would need to take take on U more of the uh teacher evaluations um than the assistant principal because they're splitting between two schools does that about cover it okay thank you so when will we be approving the administrator employment agreement for 2025 26 I don't have the timeline you T typically we approve those agreements at the end of June so we we bring forward the salary uh recommendation earlier because of the need to issue contracts but the agree itself gets finalized in June okay so the the board has time to discuss this because um if retaining staff and improving climate culture and increasing enrollment are really goals for us then we should not be cutting these vital positions from any of our schools and as a parent with students in the district myself
078I know that parents really care about who's on the School site to help with the children and they want full-time assistant principles regardless of enrollment and many have emailed us the board uh to say so and no one is coming that's why they're coming to our district because we employ amazing staff on our school campuses and I believe assistant principles are vital to all our school communities regardless uh of our enrollment and I think we really need to discuss how we we can uh retain our assistant principles on our SES I think it's very important Mrs Warner Mrs Warner thank you so PJ I want to thank you for coming up and speaking at the board meetings I really appreciate the Insight that you give us but thank you uh we don't have insight to
079what happens in the iban meetings but I just wonder if when you guys are talking what conversations happen around cutting District level administrators assistants and so on and I say that because you can run a school with teachers and principes and no District staff you could not this big but you could right we need the teachers but if you only have District administrators you're not running a school so as you all know I place a heavy weight on our site staff and have always been against cutting uh assistant principles or really site staff at all so with the cabinet making 100% more than the average teacher pay I am certain that if you started taking a look at District level individuals and and these are tough conversations because nobody wants to think that their um
080job is on the line or that they're going to be cut but we're having them about the assistant principles and um I think we need to redirect a conversation to where can we cut at the district level and some of these other um non-site um groups I printed out all the organizational charts so what conversations did you guys have around cutting District level staff within the um IBN process um that was not part of our agenda agenda um to necessarily go and talk about the um the district level I mean I'm C we' certainly have shared you know areas in which the comments are are uh is cabinet looking at other departments in which Miss kroer and I would affirm that yes we are but the the the time was tasked with we were tasked
081in that time period to really focus on the agreement itself um and going through that document and again the AP ratios took up the bulk of our our conversation last year because it was a whole new section um but you ladies can respond to that we if you'd like so thank you for the question and thank you for the um the comment board member Warner certainly as the president of the Scottdale administrators Association that is something that um again we don't look at this as you know combative or anything like that but certainly we want to bring forward what our interests are and again as Miss as Dr sackos stated it's under the Ben under the guise of benefits salaries and working conditions and certainly from our standpoint as Scott still administrators Association we know
082that working conditions at the site are challenging at times as they are in the district and everywhere um and so we wanted to be sure that our voice was heard I can attest that um both Dr hirs and I last year as co-presidents and this year um with president-elect Dans Dr danky we meet um I believe at least once a week or once a month pardon me if not more than once a month with Dr menel we do express our concerns we do Express when um certainly when we think that something could be different better for us and maybe look at other areas um so that is something that has been brought forth in those conversations um we were presented with um and I don't want to overstep on this but I know that Dr
083Cruz presented at um a recent admin meeting when we were discussing this item about some of the potential um I'll call it um reductions at the District level um and so I feel confident that those conversations are taking place I can't say what they are exactly because they were proposed reductions um but certainly I I do believe that district is trying to make an effort to look at those things as well as look at our group itself thank you so I had requested for the budget to be back on the agenda this time and thank you president Lewis for making that happen and this conversation and the budget conversation are kind of overlapping so I'm going to make a couple of comments here that I'll make again during the budget but we have and I
084appreciate you have the conversations but at the end of the day it was the IBN team the whole Focus was on our sites and uh and Dr Dan SK and I talked about this when I toured and and I appreciated everything you said but I still cannot get past that we are cutting from our sites and when and none of this is personal these are just difficult conversations because we do have to make and I brought in general counsel it was my motion it was my agenda item to bring in general counsel a couple of years back we are not in a position to have a general counsel anymore we still spend $2 to $300,000 on outside counsel that is a position that can be cut um and um our ed services can be picked
085up by Dr Manel himself these are have we moved to uh item 6 c yeah yeah so so anyway so I'll pick those back up but um so as the IBN teams I would just hope that you all look at what are other positions that can be cut so that we can keep our site staff thank you Dr Pensky thank you um how many sites are affected by the the ratios it originally was six but I think that has since been Chang is now five five five sites out of I always forget if you include online as a I know it's a site but how many relevant sites 29 okay so five that's all Sites Elementary Middle High School there are 29 okay um but there's a it's five and it impacts the assistant principles
086at the elementary level with uh uh student counts less than 450 N 1K and nk8 my apologies okay so it's going to impact five out of 29 all of which are Elementary except for one which is K8 what's that oh yeah and would one middle my apologies Dr hummon which I have to apologize for because I said Miss humm so I just got that in Dr humm thank you is that relevant to the five out of the 29 sorry yeah no thank you for helping me with that part of that ratio change it also adds um at a couple of the schools so so some of the larger schools had toas um some of which had been funded out of their schools funding accounts results based funding and so it looks at the larger schools
087and says the district is going to pay for an additional TOA if they me meet that ratio so there's there's some ad and there's toas that may be on the campus now that aren't funded from the district what does TOA mean I'm sorry teacher on assignment so essentially it's another position helping out in the office their function is within administratively within the school because they have such higher numbers of students okay so based on these ratios out of 29 schools five would experience a reduction all of which are Elementary except for one which is K8 so three Elementary one middle and one K8 I'm sorry three okay and you're making the point that the ratios also are increasing resources at a different set of schools there's some schools that have toas now teachers on assignment
088now that help out with administrative needs that the schools could no longer they're funding them out of their own resources the district would start res would be funding those so their staff that they have that would potentially go away soon that the district would now pay for that were included in the ratios that were part of the IBN process so it was based on the number of students to tackle the discipline issues on the site and so we had we have you think Cheyenne with nearly a thousand students or Cocoa's a large middle School compared to smaller middle schools and so it's based on the ratios themselves in order to support the needs on the campus so this is based on a Assumption of where I'm going to use the term enrollments I know that
089there's more technical ways of defining the concept of an enrollment um this is based on an a forecast of where we think enrollments will come in if in a school enrollments ended up above the ratio they would under this agreement they would get their AP back uh their assistant principal back correct well I think that's something we're going to have to talk about because um within the SAA agreement it specifically says that we will use our 40th Day Count uh to um staff uh to the ratios established so day into an academic year we would so so essentially the answer is if if uh in the fall the numbers go over the threshold where we could justify making that 0.5 a 1.0 FTE we would recommend doing that not waiting till the next year but
090it's not formulaic because it's a judment this hasn't been tested yet so it's it's not it's not um something that has been determined determined in the formula itself it's an option the recommendation would be that if the numbers warrant it you'd move in that direction I was looking at the current enrollment in the schools that are low and they're significantly below because kindergarten registration in those sites is pretty small but if that grows significantly and and the reality on the ground changes then we can move based on this formula so if someone was at 390 and they end up at 410 and and the 400 was the threshold because they have enough special ed classrooms we'd recommend 1.0 for next year we wouldn't wait till the following year to remedy that got it um and
091I guess that's a segue to there's the parenthetical if needed so I just want to understand what if needed means here does if needed mean we are forecasting um declining enrollments and budget shortfalls and therefore we need to move to these ratios or does if needed mean um of the different ways that the board could solve for the reduced funding if we chose to go with assistant principles these would be the ratios that would guide us I think I think it's safe to say that we were oper ating off the um if needed uh to reduce or to staff to ratio based on our economic forecast um and that being the decline in ADM okay I think my next question makes more sense in the budget discussion so I don't want to get my hand
092slapped I'll wait until until then and and intensity of program perhaps if you move the intensity of program would that be an add of in of if needed you had another highly special needs program yes thank you so there is a caveat in the agreement that it's 450 and Below um well 450 and above is the 1.0 but if you are above in between 400 and 450 and you have three or more special education uh uh classes um self-contained classes um and or our title one then that would give the that school a one point o um and I am happy to um resend um I think it's been about a month since we sent the Dr Cruz sent the original B memo that shows the impacted schools if that's helpful for the future yes
093and I I maybe it does make sense now I find the idea that it wouldn't it have to be more of if we were to choose to make APS the way that we get to the budget shortfall these are the ratios that should guide it as opposed to interest based negotiations prescribing for the board how it would meet budget shortfalls a year and a half in advance of the actual time frame I just find I'm challenged by that and I I think the language that um is Warner just shared um in the event of fiscal reductions the the following plan will be presented as an option for discussion and consensus with the 2024 2025 IBN team so can you do you recall what that might reference well that's what's happened here that's why this conversation
094is happening at all because the financial situation of the district as a result of declining enrollment has necessitated having this discussion with respect to the ratios we had ratios for um class sizes that have been in existence before I got here and they continued as those same ratios as the community renewed The M override we didn't have specific ratios with respect to administrators in a building which meant we had a lot of variability so that's part of what precipitated the conversation two years ago to say okay what makes sense from a building level administrative support when I have a large Middle School saying I have one AP and I have smaller schools that have one AP but I have three times the number of discipline referrals in the office and so that necessitated having this
095conversation that was a two-year process to get to the conversations we're having now but it's the budget constraints that have triggered moving to what it says for FY 26 I promise the last question so should I understand that to be no less than is the spirit of the ratio the way class sizes are no greater than so so essentially uh the way this is framed is that the um the enrollment numbers represent a a trigger or Tipping Point so if you're over 450 you know that you'll have at least a full-time AP and if you're over 900 you know you've got a different ratio if you're between 400 and 450 then it it's we took into account the specific nature of the challenges on the campus so if you have three self-contained special education you
096may have more uh need for additional administrative support or if you're a title School you may have more need for administrative support so we tried to build the agreement in a way that uh acknowledged the context in that environment but also noting that if if you have fewer than 400 students that's a different reality and we did think about what what do other districts in the valley do so we know that we have numbers from how others structure this related to the number of of students enrolled in a building so we tried to balance all of those things to get to a point that would support the building have a ratio that was defensible and ensure that we were providing support across all campuses in a way that uh made sense and you could actually
097point to instead of well that's just too bad everybody gets one principle and one AP and that's it thank you all right any other questions from board members thank you this please go ahead I'm sorry go ahead Miss Carney um thank you president Lewis uh Miss kroer I just have a question based on the conversation that was just happening um when you presented the on the M uh budget to us last meeting it was a $300,000 uh cut with the six APS now you're saying it's five so is that that savings would go down um not it's not quite a 100,000 so but it would it's reduced now that savings is reduced okay and so all the information we we have gotten still shows the six schools so who who is no longer at risk
098here Redfield Redfield yeah redfield's numbers are over 400 and they have a third self-contained special education classroom so the schools that are below the threshold are Pima anastasi lagona Eko and tonola okay that's what I think I'm a little confused because desert uh Canyon Middle School shows a minus5 AP so so um they yeah they are a0 five yes I missed that I apologize so there would be six let me go back and and look at the our our memo um and provide that clarification to the board but thank you for the questions and opportunity to talk about this tonight okay um I would just like to recommend to my fellow board members that we we um changed the admin employment agreement for 2526 using the same criteria as we are using this year for
099fiscal year 2025 and find uh budget cuts of 20 50,000 uh elsewhere which we can discuss in the next agenda item all right that that brings closure then to our discussion on the administrat the employ administrators employment agreement for 2425 difficult conversation I know this has been going on in multiple settings and I'm so sorry for all of us to have to uh tug aw and struggle through it thank you for your time and the intensity of your focus Sor just one hopefully friendly note when you share with us part sometimes I ask question questions and I not that I know the answer because that would be a waste of everyone's time but I think it's important for the public to understand things so when you send the updated list will that be in a
100way that the public has access to or just the board we can make it available for the public to understand as well thank you yes thank you again thank you so much difficult conversation as we move into item 6 C about uh the the budget discussion Dr Manzel thank you president Lewis so the request was made to put the budget discussion back on the agenda this evening as you know last month Shannon presented an overview of where we are in the budgeting process just as a reminder for our public that the budget doesn't get approved until the end of June so this is a work in progress and it continues to shift we do not know what the specific questions are that governing board members may bring forward tonight and respectfully we will take notes
101and prepare full and thorough responses to the questions that are raised but look forward to hearing what's on the mind of the governing board members all right Miss Warner thank you so when I made this request it was regarding the cuts uh and I made that very specific in my emails because I think it is important uh like I said before is that we are looking at the district Cuts before we look at site staff and what I was saying before is it so you as a district level you'll have your own administrative assistance and in our neighboring schools uh the cabinet and the district leadership shares assistance so what savings can be done by job sharing or or reducing cabinet level assistance staff down um and and you can you know you can take
102notes and you can get back to me it's fine um the other one was like I said and and and respectfully these are tough conversations they are not personal um the general Council was brought in I think it's two years ago we are not in a position to carry a general Council now and and can rely back on the outside Council which we still are um we also brought in the um uh when when the uh associate soup went out and then we were didn't have anyone and then we brought in the Education Services these are jobs that fall within the superintendent job duties as well and so there's another area but we have to look at and then I can I can go on marketing um uh and like some deal said in in
103a public comment is the uh the federal grants and in Title One you know that that department has grown drastically and what is the ROI on that um and we I'm not going to support and will not vote for cutting of assistant principles or really site staff at all and I I didn't do this last year either and I just I would like to see Cuts made from the district level and like I said earlier the average teacher pay is about $58,000 the average District administrator pay or cabinet level pay is over $130,000 so the pay disparity is just a struggle and uh for me because I think that our teachers should get paid more and um again I'm just like a broken record here I I'd like to see the board to see making
104cuts at a district level as opposed to our sites thank War thank you other questions Miss Cary thank you president Lewis yeah I want to also acknowledge what we you know several people have already said that every position we're discussing affects a real person so I want to acknowledge that and I wish we didn't have to have these conversations um but we do and it's uncomfortable but it's it's necessary so um we need to prepare a budget based on cuts to District level staff and not to those working with our students each day on our school sites so how are we doing that how have we done that I mean you showed us last um you know last presentation but um I did notice like there was two positions on there that weren't even filled
105this year so we weren't even utilizing the social media person or the um someone I think in in legal I don't know it was two positions I think that I saw that we said we're cutting but we didn't even have someone uh in that position this year so I really want us to take a look at where where can we cut um I'm interested in knowing if um if soul is an area of consideration of cutting further um I don't I don't know where we're we're at with soul but that seems like that could be an area too where we need to consider cutting uh further I would like to ask Dr Manzel to provide the board a report of all vendors projects memberships that are currently being paid through M and what cuts he
106has made to his budget uh for this upcoming year compared to last year uh as I talked about earlier I don't believe we should continue paying lobbyists um we can we can lobby as elected officials ourselves he can Lobby uh we don't need to pay for lobbying um those are um that and greater Phoenix educational uh guppy Mac is a contract that we need to look at cancelling that is a a contract that is over $10,000 that we're paying annually and we can with 90day notice we can cancel that so that's another one we need to look into um so I just really think we need to dig in um I was looking at uh you sent sent us the board the marketing um Communications budget and I hate I always feel like I'm picking
107on them I love marketing I that's part of my job I love it but if we're looking for cuts that is an area um that we should look at I you know we were paying Davidson beluso a lot of money $50,000 out of memo um are there areas that we can be cutting that we don't want to cut that are that are good right everything is good but we need to cut I was looking at your um I believe this is your travel budget you got a lot on in this that you sent us a while back um and I would like you you mean the district travel budget I don't know it says SC travel budget what is that oh no that's just the name of the report oh I you have to name
108a report that I named the report SC I believe that's all travel it is all travel but I'm saying is that is that stand for you yeah SC okay you see yeah you sent I know I know it's not all yours it's the whole thing but I see a lot of areas on here that are M um that I would like for you to let the board know where are we cutting uh off off this travel budget I mean employee training professional development $882,000 travel $20,000 the superintendent has a a travel budget of $22,000 this is all M and I think there's cuts that we can make and um I'm just asking that we dig deep look look further and it might look like smaller numbers but smaller numbers add up to where we would
109not have to get rid of school uh School site staff and I really think that we we can we can get that done thank you Miss Carney Dr pensy questions yes I have a couple can you um just remind me the 1.2 million that's described as related to prop 123 if needed can you just remind me sure what that is is it baked in and so if not needed it starts to create an offset for some of these difficult expense reductions so the the one the prop 123 there is money that is in the base from prop 123 when it was um pasted gosh it's been about seven years now I think um when that was passed but at that time there was also additional funding that was given to school sites that was in
110addition to that base um that money expires this year so that right there is the 1.2 million that or I think it's actually 1 1.2 1.3 um that we're looking at as that is a cut that's that's baked into our IM so when we look at what is our total M budget that being eliminated would be a reduction to our M that we'd have to address and do we know that it's been eliminated um well we called ad last week to say hey could you give us more guidance on this and the we got a pretty canned response of anything with one two three is still being discussed do we know what we would know whether it's being eliminated I I know that there's different bills that are out there um but like I said
111when ad when we call AD to say can you give us a little bit of guidance on this the guidance that we got was it's still being discussed it's in discussion yeah so I guess the real question is can we get an update on proposition one two three yeah so if it does if it if it if it does continue or said differently it's not eliminated then that does create some Financial flexibility so until we know what the budget's going to be from the state it's hard to determine what that number looks like or if we're getting something or where that's going to land um because we're looking at moving District additional assistance money from um that over to M if so right now I'm figuring I'll probably need to make you know put that
112into the budget if something changed we can move money back when we do a revision from emo we can move money back and forth between capital and ordah and M so if we went ahead and said okay we're going to move that now not knowing what's what the budget is exactly um then we could move that back if the state came back and said yes we're going to fund this and here's what we're going to do we could move that back to Capital um and I know we know that by June I don't know um it depends on when the budget is done with the state it's hard to tell there's times that we've known by the end of May that and we've known what to do for the proposed budget or we've had a
113pretty good idea what was going to happen there's times that it's been the last week of June or later before we knew so it just really depends on the state um you know we pay attention to what's happening we I attend asbo meetings where there's people that talk about what's happening at the state um you know CFOs call each other and say what are you doing on this and and how are you handling this so we do you know try to stay in communication with with those things um but I I don't know what the state budget's going to look like at okay Dr Manzel so I think part of the problem that's Illustrated here is a misalignment of the timeline between when the state approves the budget and when we have to approve a
114budget so when the state acts at the end of June and we have to approve a budget by the end of June no later than July 15th that's means we have to make some estimates about what they may or may not do and that can always change and to Shannon's point we can modify that I would just point out that there's also a a shift that the state did a few years ago that that creates more questions and if if the state reverted back to Prior year funding like it does for everything but m&o then we wouldn't be having these same conversations because we would know what the budget amount would be for this year and then with enrollment changes in the following year you'd be able to make those adjustments so because we do
115current year funding it creates an additional level of uncertainty which means CFOs have to try to budget conservatively because we don't know what the ADM will be for certain but it's it's that misalignment that's part of the challenge we always have an opportunity to correct based on the final budget adopted by the state Miss Warner M CR you mentioned daa so are there places in the daa that we could make cuts to so I'll use an example we paid what 300 something thousand for the prism headsets a a couple years ago and it ended up not being used but so do we have other things that we could not pay not continue to use and use that and move it over to M and have you looked at that um that thank you for the
116question yes we um have been looking at Capital quite a bit we had to take a pretty good look at it to decide what could we move and can we do it um you know I don't want to move money this year and then next year come back and say oh my gosh we don't have enough in capital um of course I nobody knows if V Chiller is going to go or when some catastrophic things could happen but um we have taken a hard look at what are we doing we've been looking the last couple years we do a lot in software we've been looking at how much are we spending in software are those things that are they are we buying license and are they being used and are they producing results we're still
117working through that most say it's definitely a work in process but that is one of the things that's looked at is okay well we were buying this are we going to buy it next year do we still need it nope okay take that out of the budget so that is some of the considerations that we've been looking at within um moving Capital Money part of it is we have um dollar sitting unallocated no you use unallocated once then it's gone um so we know that's what's going to cover us for next year we know that we've been carrying over um you know each year we carry over from Capital so that's why we believe this it's just sustainable to move from Capital to dah or from C Capital to M what I you know I
118don't know that I would want to say move it all but um we could move some and that's that's that's what we addressed is how do we how do we attract and retain and the only way to do that is to look at salaries and benefits and we need to move money from dah to be able to cover that thank you I appreciate that very much thank you any other questions okay important to ground ourselves a little bit thank you for the opportunity that uh moves us to the 8A this is for board action non-renewal of employment contracts of certified teachers for the 2526 year Dr Cruz good evening president Dr Lewis governing board members Dr menel and Mrs Wagner I'm happy to answer any questions before you make a decision on this item okay
119I see no questions from the board so thank you Dr Cruz uh I move that we accept the non-renewal of employment contracts as of certified teachers for the 25 school year as presented 25 26 school year as presented I'll second all those in favor I I I un passes unan ously thank you for your preparation staff uh 8B approve compensation increases for the fiscal year 2526 for all employee groups including classified certified special service providers guest teachers and administration I make a motion that we accept oh no we got questions we have questions sorry I I I used to do it the other way in my other District sorry yeah yeah we're good uh so let me just pull it up here there we go right so as I mentioned earlier um the district level
120versus our site staff and so last year we ended up approving an additional 1% to what was proposed to us and I brought up then that I didn't think that it was fair to have the cabinet or District level um administrators making $10 $130,000 for them to get the same percentage and I do believe that earlier on prior to or maybe when you first got here Dr Manzel or maybe prior to that District level got a flat flat rate or flat fee for their increase and so I would be supportive of a 1% increase except the cabinet and I'm happy to vote for that other questions comments right Matt you want Dr pensy you want to make a motion um we just we had a description earlier about the interest based negotiation process so is
121it fair to say that what's being recommended is the product of that interest based negotiation process governing board member Dr Pinsky it is um this comes forward at the recommendation through our IBN uh group dissemination process uh I want to commend our IBN teams just take one second for to do that they have spent uh countless hours of Engagement and perseverence around this this year and really come together as one team um including all the time that they take to Loop out with their membership and get get feedback from all the things discussed in their in their meetings including our group meetings thank you can I comment on the substance of it okay um so I I'm supportive and I in whole cloth and I think it's really important that the Integrity of the IBN
122process be followed and respected I I really do worry about a world in which um kind of the regular process of IBM is undermined if folks feel like you know despite all of that hard work and coming to consensus and maybe making tradeoffs that at any given point the board could then choose to accept this but not that or increase this or lower that it's obviously our prerogative and as you heard in my last comment I feel very strongly that an IBN process should not constrain the board's ability to decide how we meet a budget shortfall I don't understand a world in which the IBN process does that but when it comes to to reaching agreement around annual compensation adjustments to me it we should apply a pretty high bar before we start to you
123know which obviously each of us can make our own decisions I just wanted to share my own thinking I think there should be a very high bar before we start to pick apart different pieces that come out of the IBM because the unintended consequence of that is that folks lose faith in the IBN process itself and and that has a whole set of Downstream effects that would really worry me so so I just wanted to explain why I why I am supportive next okay go ahead Miss uh Warner or Miss Carney thank you president Lewis um I would just like to say I was a no vote I was the only no vote on the 2% uh increase last year um because of exactly what um board member Werner just discussed and I just want
124to know was that a topic of discussion in the IBN meetings is that we um I know myself as a board member and I I think you two we both discussed that uh we didn't feel it was fair to give the same amount to cabinet members District administration making six figures you know versus our lower paid teachers who make half so was that in cons knowing that conversation did happen last year and it was approved does is that taken into consideration for the next IBN meetings member member Carney and governing board members certainly we take any feedback from our governing board members and we listen intently to that at the end of the day um we we look at things holistically and try to bring together a package that everybody feels is fair and Equitable
125it may not be equal but they felt was Equitable across our system so I I would like to weigh in here um because the cabinet group is not represented as an association you have four associations cabinet is not represented historically the district has operated ated uh in two different ways sometimes cabinet has received the same percent increase as other people and other times they've received either differential percentage or a flat dollar amount that that is accurate so so the recommendation moving forward was not a part that the cabinet component was not a part of of the IBN process because there is no IBN with the cabinet members they don't have a separate group that comes to the table that way so I'd actually I have a question for for um PJ in this but so
126you have a the average teacher pay is $588,000 is so the average teacher is getting $580 raise and meanwhile the district level administrator is getting 1,500 I mean like where's the equity in that member Warner certainly we can look at different things in different ways and it is at the end of the day up to the governing board to make this decision um we can bring together more information to you um all can tell you is that this this is how our team came together and felt this was a fair and Equitable package uh we can look at work calendars and work days worked Etc all of those things um at the end of the day this is an IBM discussion and recommendation to the governing board um that we hope to uh attract and
127retain will attract and retain our our staff what is the length of contract for a Cabinet member days um Dr Lewis I believe I I don't want to offer offer this off the top of my head but it it's a 12 month contract 270 no 26 26 like yeah 256 thank you and the typical uh contract for teachers 186 okay Mr buzan did you have a comment uh just to clarify for uh ask Dr Cruz um the info sheet includes the special education Market demands 70 day difference was that part of the IBN process or that's a Leal Council yes thank you for making that clarification okay that was I'm happy to address that for the government Bo they need more information the health insurance component was also a large part of the IBN discussion
128agreed to help offset the cost of rising health care costs for all of our employees to apply that extra million dollars to health care costs for next year Miss Carney thank you president Lewis I would just like to address the special education market demand stien increase since I did email you about this um and I don't believe I did receive a response because it was yesterday when I emailed about it but I just was trying to understand why did you include these stiens on on this agenda now uh board member Carney I want to thank you for that question I'm very happy to address that today um all year long we have had a special education work group working towards eradicating Contract Services in special education from our district as you have heard over the
129many years um it has cost well over the amount of money um allocated through our idea Federal Grant and has spilled over into the M budget to millions of dollars so that has been our goal to do when we looked at at numbers and to find creative ways to incorporate um perhaps a different market demand stien uh we looked at eradicating those Contract Services taking those funds reinvesting it in our current people and with that we also did somewhat of a ratio change for our lrc teachers and I believe the board got a a board memo on this and this allowed us to give those market demand stipers and also realize some budget savings with all of that in intact so we believe this will make us a market leader in the area of special
130education and be able to fill all of our classrooms with appropriately certified teachers prior to the school year starting without the use of Contract Services okay so these these stiens will be given before they at the beginning of the year it will be a part of their contract and so depending upon how they um have their cont contract broken out whether it's 22 or 26 pays it will be evenly spread out across their pay okay are these stiens something that will be on the um the hold on here on the supplemental salary schedule or this is different this this is different so we have taken all of those and and member Carney thank you again for your question I am compiling all of that information so that we have that to be able to get
131to all of the board members and we will get those to you um but it takes other stiens that they have and currently um and rolls that into this market demand stien so all of the stiens that you see kind of all over the place we will now all embed into the market demand stien so you won't see those extra special ed us to teach special education that will be in the market demand box so that will replace those other stiens and move it to the market demand box it allows us to recruit and retain in a more effective way um it's front-facing people see it right away and um we we believe we will be able to not have the use of Contract Services because of this okay and my my question I had
132emailed to you was what data do we have that stiens actually working the stens that we've given are retaining staff I think we need data that these these are very large stiens member Carney I completely agree so with these large stiens I don't want you to be afraid of these stiping it is built into the budget and it allows us also to have some budget savings after we are building these into the budget after we no longer have Contract Services so we know that other districts are offering stiens in the neighborhood of $2500 $3,000 Etc and so by offering these typensave in our classrooms and attract those that we may still need okay like I had mentioned in my email I think we may have to table the stiens until we can better understand I'm
133I we don't even know how many um how many are you know we are approving this for and I think we do need some data showing that this is a good use of spend on these stiens I don't I'm I'm not sure that I'm able to vote on that uh member Carney understood I will also say that it it enables the teachers to also know on the market demand box that they're getting this typen some of them don't even know they're getting a stien for being a special education teacher because it's on the supplementary salary schedule or it's over here so we again are also trying to streamline our systems with regards to our salary schedules to ensure that our special ed team is able to recruit and retain the best and brightest for Scott
134steel students okay lastly can you give me an example so let's say specialized programs $15,000 right now for the 20124 25 uh school year what stien to specialized program s receive this year they receive a stien of $2,000 from Indian gaming fund and $4,000 from m&o so we're going from 6,000 to 15,000 and again I want to assure the board we are not overspending the budget we are actually saving money by doing this and did you have the numbers of how many under each category are we looking at I certainly can get that for the board it's it would be all of our special education teachers those that are in specialized programs and those in our lrc I can include that for the board I'm happy to do that can you finish the sentence on
135how it saves US money I certainly can so um earlier in the year uh I Believe Miss kroer has talked about our specialized and Contract Services that we utilize to fill our class classrooms for teachers those sometimes cost us 20 to 50% more per person to put in those classrooms so it saves US money because if we're able to staff it ourselves correct we don't have to spend significantly more in out we can reroute those dollars to reinvest in our staff and keep them here okay yeah thank you all right seeing no more okay Miss Carney um I'd like to ask how how can we uh table the stiens off here till we get the the full information of um that was requested on how how many are we approving and I had asked you
136know the current stiens versus these so we understand the amounts uh so how do we go about tabling those items so so let's talk about the implications of if we table uh and then we can talk about the mechanics of tabling so for that one in particular uh if if you table the stien piece it means the contracts that go out to our current special education staff show simply a 1% increase with no stiens which means there's no guarantee of any additional compensation because the board wouldn't have made that commitment to the individuals so if they find another District that's paying more because they already have the stiens then they might leave Scottsdale to go to another District that's the risk if we don't approve this tonight so the analysis done by Administration reflects the
137um understanding that by increasing the stiens and I heard from one of my colleagues who heard about what we were bringing forward and they said we won't be able to compete with that we we believe that this puts us as the top Market competitor for hiring special education staff directly and and the the recommendation is based on that you can table it I'm just saying that if you table it what it's saying to our special Educators is that the most that they can be guaranteed uh in terms of compensation is 1% and that means we may have to rely on more contracted Services because we don't have a choice about meeting the needs of our students with IEPs so that's the risk and if you were going to make that motion you would just say
138that you would move to approve the recommendation as presented without the special education stiens and that would be sufficient to make that happen Miss Warner so I did apologize to the district leadership before we started because I was going to pick on them a little bit today and I do appreciate everyone here um and I appreciate I did not hear that sorry oh I apologize I did maybe you weren't there so um I think for future that there should be a discussion before we act because these things come up and it's like well we have to do it today or there's a big consequence and we all know that Isaac got their board in huge trouble and there's legislation coming down on board members that we are going to be affected by and so it
139is important that we make good decisions and and decisions that we can sleep at night with um so that would be my ask for next year um and and again it's very challenging to talk to teachers and to see what and and staff people who are Hands-On with our kids and see the struggles with inflation see the struggles with um with the insurance and things like that and you know just giving them a little bit of a bump and and um the people above them are are getting a bigger one and so it's very challenging for me and I do respect the process but I'd like to um maybe have a discussion on it before we vote on it next time so thank you all right at this point I just would like to say
140I I want to thank you so very much for the depth and the timing and the scrubbing of all the possibilities through the uh interest based negotiations um I have a lot of value and integrity in my assumptions about how that group works and to come to this agreement as as as moderate as it is and as modest as it is uh feels right and within budget to me even with our pending cuts to get the contracts out on time I know that neighboring districts are issuing contracts and people want them in their hands to for an understandable sense of security so timing is a factor um I I do think that if we can abolish and and get rid of the contract services that cost us Millions we are doing a budget Service as
141fiary you know responsible leaders um so thank you for your efforts and work on that because those cottage industries are breaking it in and um and and counting on our our discombobulation so this is an appropriate uh contract stien uh to compete and um and attract even some of our regular Ed teachers who exist with us currently to to take on the challenge of special education and we want to support that um so thank you for the Integrity of the work um I AG I agree with Dr Pensky on upholding um the process and I'm going to make a motion that we approve the compensation increases for fiscal 2526 as presented in this current action item understanding that we want to continue the conversation for overall cuts and overall options as we continue moving into
142June and waiting for what the state will and won't be able to do so that is my motion I need a second second all right all those in favor I I I all those opposed no okay so it passes 3 to one thank you very much governing board all right we are at governing board reports I will start at the end of the table Dr Pensky I have none okay Miss Warner no Miss Kerney thank you president Lewis um so I went on several tours and to see several presentations I was busy um since our last board meeting but I really enjoyed participating last week as a guest speaker for Engles side's College and Career day I uh loved getting to hang out with Miss Mrs scordo and all her 8th grade math students talking
143to them about my career in journalism and creative entrepreneurship uh so it was it was uh really a good day and I'm uh very proud of what they what they did and I liked meeting other speakers too um so oh and I do have stickers for the board members from uh principal Hardy from Mountainside from my tour so here you go I pass these down so I did my duty beautiful it's always so rewarding um and my report is um that I am looking forward to the athletic banquet tomorrow night and cheering on our students and all the amazing people our boosters and our coaches and our refs and our umps and all the people that make it such a vital part of develop ment as a human being um and so I'm looking forward
144to that tomorrow night and I wish everybody a great Pi Day coming up March 14th 3.14 pi Pi so in our math theme uh so thank you so very much future agenda items Miss Warner thank you so I have two uh I'd like to place a future agenda item to do an RFP for insurance to look at um company such as Blue Cross for shield look at what um other I know that there are districts that are using them and that are paying less than we are and really taking the real robust look at moving away from chyros to see if that can save our staff money and uh the second one is that I I'd like to add the budget discussion again for next month thank you it'll be short of that Dr pensy
145thank you without promising that it would be shorter I want to affirm uh as well that I would like like to have that same budget discussion and part and parcel of that discussion having a little bit of a primer on the timeline the calendar so if we're thinking about a a fiscal year working backward what is a typical cycle because I do think that's where you know some of these um issues arise and then just want to affirm again how important it is that I think we set the agenda for our study sessions for the rest of the year I don't want want the leadership in the district to have a ton of work hit all at once and at the same time I don't want to compromise on the thoroughness of those sessions in
146terms of the preparation because I think there's a deep dive around why are our enrollment Trends the way that they are how much of that is demographics how much of that is for lack of a better term market share um what have we learned from exit surveys and climate surveys um what are we doing based on that to try to bend the curve how does it vary by um by site and by grade level I I think there's a real deep dive and I know it takes time to prepare that so would encourage us to to give ourselves as much time as possible to affirm those those topics thank you thank you Miss Carney thank you president Lewis um on January 27th I had asked by email uh to superintendent Manel for growth consolidation site
147plans for 2025 26 and um I don't believe we've received those and so I would like a public presentation on this about the discussions that have been going on to bring the board up to speed and then I'm not not sure if needed I don't believe that it is but I'm going to reiterate it the action if needed an action item to cancel uh the gpme The Guppy mat contract and state 48 public affairs and any other programs or Services being paid by m that are not vital to our student and School site success and then lastly uh I want to uh bring the 2025 26 administrator agreement uh with the Staffing rubric for uh with 20 24 25 keeping all of our assistant principles in the roles that they have currently this school year
148thank you thank you date dates of our upcoming meetings uh we will have a regular meeting date it was changed from April 88th to Tuesday April 1st at 6 pm and it'll be a regular governing board and I make sure I'm sure saying this right regular governing board meeting at Coronado High School Monday April 21st 5:00 pm the governing board retreat and April 29th 6 p.m. a special governing board meeting all right with that I move to adjourn do I just adjourn second second all those in favor I I I I okay I thank you uh who who seconded for