001Good evening everyone. Welcome to this special meeting for the Kansas City School Board of Education Thursday December 18th here in the downtown Canton. Please silence your electronic devices if you're in the audience and would you please rise for the Pledge of Allegiance. Thank you for if you are on line with us thank you for taking the time to navigate our web page and join us tonight and I just want to make a quick announcement. Our two newly elected board members are in the audience. Mr. Skyler Parks and Mr. R.J. Van Almond thanks for joining us tonight. Mr. Gruber would you call the roll. Yes Mr. President but before I call the roll I'd just like to say thanks to Mr. Kaminsky and Mr. Rinaldi for all their years of service and dedication in the Kansas
002City School District and the community and I'd also like to say it's been an honor to work with both of you over these many years. Do I get a honey-baked ham? What do I get? Is that it? That was it? 30 years and that's it? 40 years? Whatever I got. Next time. That's alright. Thank you Mr. Gruber. Appreciate it. Mr. Rinaldi? Here. Ms. Watkins? Here. Mr. Kaminsky? Here. Mrs. Brown? Here. Mr. Ross? Here. I'll make the motion to approve the agenda as written. Second. Any changes or corrections? Hearing none, roll call vote. Mr. Rinaldi? Aye. Ms. Watkins? Aye. Mr. Kaminsky? Aye. Mrs. Brown? Aye. Mr. Ross? Aye. Moving right along. Superintendent Talbert. Thank you Mr. President. Tonight we're here for one specific reason and that is to talk about how we're going to address the
003budget deficit that we have out in fiscal year 28 and so just to let everyone know who doesn't routinely deal with school finances currently we are in fiscal year 26 so that means that we have next school year where we are in the positive and in the green and if we do nothing then in 28 we we will be broke as a district and actually in debt and and and so as we go through this having a red number in your forecast is not something that's unusual to the board members who've been on here we are used to seeing red numbers usually out in year five of our of our forecast and the folks who remember back in May in May when our forecast was done and we weren't sure what the state was going
004to do with school funding we had a negative number in our five-year forecast it was a manageable number a number that we knew that we would be able to just do our normal balancing our staff and aligning our staff and using our resources aligning our resources to our enrollment we'd have been able to handle it fast forward to October again due to where nothing has changed we we actually cut about three million dollars between May and October it started a school year in staffing because that was our target but we lost so much money in state funding we lost so much money in federal funding that all of a sudden that number in 20 I want to go all the way out to 29 which was 12.7 million dollars in the red in 29 with
005a positive number of about 6 million dollars in 28 in May fast forward to October that number in 29 was 38 million in the red and now 17 million in the red in 28 again we didn't buy anything we didn't hire a bunch of people we didn't lose any money well we did lose money we just lost money that we thought we were going to get from the state of Ohio and the federal government so that's what gets us here today and so today we are going to talk big picture big rocks not going to talk specific today I've been able to work with our treasure and his team to identify this is how much you need to cut this is how much you need to cut in 27 this is how much you would
006need to cut if you don't get it all in 27 this is how much you need to cut in 28 what the what we learned from the Treasurer's is that the more you do in the first year right means the less you have to do in the second year makes it easy for you to get it so we're going to attempt to do it so we've been working with them and and and we believe we have a plan in place as we move through this plan and what we're going to talk about is we're going to talk today I'm going to go through hey where but how do we get here and I just kind of explained that I want to review I want to go over for the community like how do we get
007our money where's our money come from and can't and why is why are we so beholden to Columbus and to the Fed and then I'm going to go and outline our focus area what why what are we going to focus on to reduce money and then I'm going to talk a little bit about each area and how much money we can expect or we're trying to eliminate and then tell you the dates that we're going to move forward with and so that's all we're going to talk about today it's like here are the areas where I think we can reduce here's how much we think we can save if we cut in these areas and then between now and the fifth we'll put people places and things and which will get the board to the
008point to where you're going to be able to make some some tough decisions about what stays who stays what can we reduce and then we'll have a give the community an opportunity to come in and tell us what they think we should focus on and we'll go from there okay so knowing when we are sitting down looking at this everything that we do in this district has to be based on what we value and what we believe in and and and so we're looking at making cuts in a manner that allows us to continue to provide the same quality and level of service to our students and and I believe that this round right I told you like there's a there's a negative number in 28 but there's you know that 20 at 7 at
00917 million dollars based on the last forecast it's 38 million dollars in 29 and it'll go even higher even though our last forecast didn't require us to go to 30 mr. Gruber looks out and gives us that information all the way into 30 and if something doesn't change one we decimate our programs we either decimate our programs or we get new money from our local folks or the state changes how they they want to support public education and I'm not just going to put it on the state because the feds have done it too so someone something has to give it is it is not it is not your school district doing this the mr. Gruber informed me that on average we had new money we asked went out for a levy with our to
010our community we would make that money last for about seven years so every seven years we would go out for 11 the last time we went out for new operating money I know people are going to say you just had a levy on in 20 that was a bond issue which allowed us to build new buildings different money but the last time we went out for operating money that's money to buy buy materials buy supplies pay people keep the lights on the last time that happened was 2020 and so you heard me say that in 20 the last forecast in May and in that forecast was very different from November 24 because we kind of heard grumblings of what the state was going to do mr. Gruber knew that they were talking about not funding
011this fair school funding formulae they were talking about eliminating some stuff but he couldn't have projected what was going to end up happening in June so we it was a it was a the forecast looked more dire in May than it did in November no one could have imagined but in November we had again 12 million dollar deficit and like we are normal procedures since I've been here has been the cut about three to four million dollars a year so if we would have cut three million dollars starting this year four million dollars starting this year that 12 million dollar deficit would have been gone and that would have happened without having to have this conversation the state wouldn't have came in and the key to that is that was 2029 right our typical average
012says we would have needed a levy in 27 so we would have took taken the money that we got from our community in 2020 when and I was out east at that time but I paid attention and I remember the board saying that we were going to get new money from this community we were going to tighten our belts live within our means right sides of district and be fiscally responsible the district has lived up to that because up until May when the state was funding us the way they promised we would have went to at least 29 maybe even 30 without needing money so it's very important that people understand how we got to this point we have very high poverty in our community when you look at our comparison district or if you
013look at the federal income level in our community and compare us to our similar districts we are poor you compare us to the the districts across the state we are poor if you look at our local the local indicators for income when you look at our similar districts across the state we are poor so we have more students who are need so it costs more to educate kids when that happens there's some targeted assistance money that the state would give you to help you balance that and so that money helps us keep smaller class sizes to help kids that aren't getting access to preschool to help kids that come to us behind the reading to help students who have issues with learning learning the English language to help students with disabilities that money supplements what
014we get from the state and what we get from the feds and what we get from our local because our kids have more need we lost that money and the state decided not to completely fund the fair school formula and they decided that the money they were going to give us would the how they were going to determine to fund us we're going to use 2021 cost right so they were saying this is how much it costs to educate a kid in 2021 this is how much it costs to heat your building in 2021 this is how much a computer costs in 2021 so I want you guys to think about this in your personal finances you cannot go in any store and buy one thing at what it costs in 2021 right like maybe
015you can when it's like deep deep deep deep clearance you go in when the blue light is flashing but normally you can't do that and we can't do that either but that's how they're funding us but what makes this even a stranger story when they determine what our local community could afford to pay so they say this is what you can pay so therefore this is how much we're going to give you they didn't use 2021 to figure that out they use this last this last data that they got this past year that's what they use the last set of appraisal numbers so we can afford to pay more based on what they got from the last set of tax appraisals but we're gonna only fund you based on 21 numbers so that's how you
016get to this nightmare that that we are in right now where we have lost seven million dollars a year and funding and so folks are reading that in the paper what's only seven million dollars what's not it's seven million dollars this year and seven million dollars next year and everything is going to continue to go up so that's how you get such a large number that we're going to have to deal with again where does our money come from why why why does it impact us so here on this chart you can see that locally local money that we get to fund our kids 19 percent and 23 came from local dollars of our funding total funding 17 percent and 24 back to 19 percent and 25 now the two numbers that you see in
017the number in green that 23 percent that's what our similar districts so when people say hey the school right there was a spoke at a council meeting and a council member said can't city need tighten a belt they keep taxing us they keep taxing us well if you look at what our local share is only 19 percent of the money that we get to run this school comes from the local tax dollars that's why we are so beholden to the state but when you look at similar districts it's around 23 percent you can see in fiscal year 25 it's up to 25 percent if you look at what's going on in the other communities on a state average it's usually local shares 40 percent right all the way up to 46 percent in fiscal year
0182025 and I guarantee you with fiscal year 2026 come out that number is going to be closer to 50 if not even closer to 60 percent of what the local shares doing so you can see that the state over time has decided that they're going to put the burden on funding public schools on the local community while telling the local community that it's the schools that are the problem why their property taxes are going up so the state used to be in charge of funding the school 6040 they have through sleight of hand changed that to 4060 local share and then somehow got everybody in the world to believe that it's the bad public schools that are raising your property tax so and we can talk about that forever but I need for people to
019understand that that in Kent City only 19 percent of our revenue comes from our local share 54 percent comes from the state so over half of our money comes from the state so when the state says we're not playing this game anymore we got a problem so we need to stop doing the things that we do or we have to go back to our community there's no other way for us to make money we right we don't sell stuff we don't make stuff there's no other way for us to make money either we have to cut eliminate things or we're going to have to ask people for money or I mean how about funding public education ways that constitutionally supposed to but I don't want to be CD the federal government 23 percent and 2330
020percent and 24 and I'll come back to that and then 21 percent in fiscal year 25 and as you can see there again the money we get from the feds is higher both both of them higher than our similar districts and higher than the the state average so again we are beholden and that money comes because we receive a lot of title one money because we have a lot of students who live in poverty in this district and that money is supposed to go to help our students who are behind in reading who are behind the back the level that playing field we get a lot of title to money to help us lower class sizes and to have professional development for our staff so that our staff have all the skills and the tools
021necessary to deal with the kids who are coming to us behind so we can make improvements guys we went from being a district that was just on the edge of state takeover with all this federal funding that we be at we have we are sitting right at the point of making state expectations we actually met state expectations for growth this year we have multiple buildings that are three four and we even have a five-star building we are doing great things and right at the point where we're about to turn the corner we're either gonna have to raise class sizes but we're going to have to stop after school programming we're going to have to eliminate tutor positions we're going to have to stop updating our curriculum just doesn't seem right to me and it's a
022real simple fact that it's not that the money's not there but we increase the funding for vouchers to a billion dollars so money there making a choice not to support the kids needed the most in this community and in our state so what you can see here again back into fiscal year 24 the federal dollars went up and there there is a local politician someone that we sent the columbus to represent us who said and doesn't need any more money okay it should be cut because they have so much money carried over every year where the reason why we have large carryover is because back in twenty twenty two twenty one twenty two the feds gave us ninety million dollars to close the gap and and so to bring kids back from covid and we
023took that money and used it this responsibly so that the burden would not be on our local taxpayers and so we use that money and we use that money to provide services to students that normally would have probably had to come at our part of our general fund it didn't so therefore we are in a good financial position which would allow us to stretch that levy in twenty to twenty nine but someone said they got all that money they don't need more money let's take it and so here we are sitting with the deficit in twenty twenty eight of seventeen million dollars so in schools there are only certain things and I said this before we we have people places they those are the only things things we can we can reduce around here and
024so those are the things that we're going to attack so we're going to look at first buildings and programs to look at personnel and then we're going to talk about purchases again we will go deeper into this that our next meeting when the whole plan will be laid out the whole community will be able to see it the board will be able to say to us as a leadership team I like that I don't like that can we do this what can we do and then we'll be able to come back to you and tell you this is what that does and where we would have to trim the fat if we don't do this so buildings and programs currently right now we have nineteen school buildings that are open and running nineteen buildings and
025we have twenty six total things that we own and so when we look at those other buildings that are not necessarily school buildings you got the BAC you've got Munson you got the Hill House got the net but we operate a lot of building we have seventy two hundred students right now so the nineteen schools is not far off from where we were when we had thirteen thousand students back in twenty twenty one and twenty two when we were doing our strategic planning we talked about right sizing the district we talked about getting rid of facilities and lowering the number of buildings we have because that will save money we we couldn't do it the way we wanted to because our buildings were too small so we decided that hey if we went out got
026a bondage passed a bond issue which we did pass in the community pass we would be able to reduce the number of buildings we have get out of older buildings save over sixty four million dollars in deferred maintenance the community back that plan we implemented we've got two buildings going up right now and it was our intention to shutter some buildings next year and so we were going to so Worley was going to be transitioned into a new building and not be a school Bellstone was going to not be a school next year we were going to move out of Cedar and McGregor and make a new elementary there Lincoln so we were going to reduce buildings we knew that was going to happen and in that strategic plan we reduced uber you remember we
027reduced uber and and and we're no longer in duber during that plan so we we've been planning to reduce our size and right size of this this new reality means we have to go a little deeper we believe that by consolidating buildings and consolidating programs I'm not going to speak on it now because we're still making the plan but over the first two years of this plan it is going to be about nine hundred fifty thousand to one point three million dollars a year and that number is not including all the transportation cost because we haven't been able to kind of figure out how much that's going to be what it has in here right now is reduced duplication it also has in there what we would say for heat electricity and that those operating
028costs and and it will also depend on if we're able to sell some of the buildings that we're leaving and when we sell them but again of the last talking to Gruber at that 17 million dollar number will probably be more around 12 or 13 when we make some adjustments for some things we know now that we didn't know in October and and of that one point three million of that up to one point three million will be because we are closing buildings and consolidating program what we're going to tell you on the fifth will be much deeper than what we have planned on for next school year simply because the cuts we make for the 27th school year will count twice if we wait for 28 it only counts once which means we'll have
029to cut more programming we'll have to cut more people so we need to do what we can for 27 and that's what we're going to try to do personnel 84% fiscal year 2025 84% of our operating expenditures with the one people we are people business right so so while we can make cuts at other places if we don't make the significant cut in our personnel we're not going to touch that money so people go well you can buy less paper you only to buy all those computers you only do all that there is no way we're cutting 17 million dollars by doing that I think on social media today they was like you cut Albert that'll save money yep you can cut Albert you can leave here today you cut Albert you still got 17
030million dollars to cut after that so it's a big it's a big number that we have to cut and here's the best way we're going to do it to let everybody know this is something we've done every year every year we've reduced our staff we've reduced since 20 the last three years we've reduced near nearly 100 positions and we've been able to do it all through attrition we haven't had to lay any one off that is what happens when you are committed to being fiscally responsible and and I commend this board for constantly asking the question where are we with money what are we doing how are you getting rid of that deficit why are you hiring these people that's why we've been able to do that but when you have such a large number
031coming we're going to have to make some cuts so three million dollars in the cut we're going to do 12 million dollars here over two years so I need people understand that that's not 12 million dollars this year but total over two years taking all these salaries that we're going to reduce the salaries will add up to 12 million dollars the largest some of those will be coming from administration we will cut approximately nine positions in administration that is 10% of our administrative staff as we figure today we will cut 3.5 million through our classified staff that's approximately 34 position that'll be about 5% of our total classified staffing and then from our certified staff we will cut 29 position that's about 4% to the board and and and my commitment as we talk about
032the power of building community and taking care of one another we've tried to make all of our reductions by letting people who leave me and we will do every we will take every effort that we can to do that my belief is is that when you when things get tough in your family you tighten your belt you don't say ah junior you can't live here no more right and and I think that this school district and the people on our team we're family and so as we do this we want to try to take care of people but these cuts are deep I can no longer sit here and tell you that there won't have to be a rip we're gonna try we're gonna do our best but there may be a need to do
033a rip what I can tell you is that we lose between the end of the school year to the beginning of the next school year we lose 90 people and so depending on where those 90 people come and where they're leaving from we've got about 29 folks I believe who've already told us they're retired and we're hoping to capture those savings we're not gonna bring those people back and throughout the course of a year so from the end of one school year to the end of the next school year there's about 170 people who come and go every day our human resource department and so every time someone leaves Mr. Dixon knows this like everybody's coming are we hiring that are we filling that are we doing that like that we look at every single
034position and we only replace it if we need and that has already started so we've lost some people I believe someone on our maintenance team recently got another job somewhere okay we're already started realizing those savings that's happening every day so if there's a way for us for someone else to pick up more we will do that again our goal is to make sure that we're living and holding people live holding ourselves accountable to our values again this is where we're going to get the lion's share how we're going to do this without cutting programming goes all the way back to consolidating program so by consolidating buildings by consolidating programs having fewer places right fewer programs to operate then we need fewer people so as people leave we won't have to replace so that's why
035it's going to be really important when we look at places that we have fewer of them which will help us need fewer people any questions about that staffing piece or about the reductions you guys have right now where I go on yeah so with classified you're doing 34 how many classified staff do we have and we're certified also so that's going to mean how many people within each one of those rooms I appreciate you thinking that I have that level of intelligence I'm just kidding I wrote it down there there are 600 I knew some of glass that question we have 650 certified positions that is both classroom teachers and teachers who were doing other things for 650 there are 606 currently as we speak classified employees and there are 88 administrative any other questions
036you are yes go ahead so we cut them back we haven't completely eliminated them are our third grade reading guarantee programs will be starting here soon if they haven't started already so we're still going to do those things but we have cut back and and this summer we did we reduce what we did this summer as well at this point it may be zero and that's those are the things that that we're talking about especially if they continue to cut title funding title funding is specifically for students who struggle in reading and math and so you hear folks say tired of kids not reading tired of kids not passing the math we got to get better the way we're going to do that if we're going to provide less support that it just it makes
037absolutely absolutely no sense to me also hey those districts are over staff okay well let's mandate that every kid who's not reading on grade level needs extra needs to have an individualized reading plan and they need extra time for intervention and those intervention classes have to have small class sizes well where are those people coming from and then last week when I was down in Columbus while they're cutting all of us in our funding hey guess what we got this great plan for math intervention plans and every kid that's on a level and grade for math they're gonna need intervention plans and guess what they're also going to need intervention time and those interventions have to be done outside of the of the regular math class and they have to have small class sizes well
038who's gonna pay for those people because right now you're telling us we we have to cut four percent of our teaching staff we have to cut five percent of our support staff the people who are going to do that so those are the things and the federal government who's saying hey you got to have all this stuff in or we're not gonna fund you you got to improve reading oh we're gonna cut your the money to give for reading I don't I don't understand it these are the cars that we've been dealt dealt but a lot of the stuff that we pay for hey we're gonna increase vouchers by a billion dollars and by the way you've got to transport them there so you need to make sure you have enough buses that every kid
039in Canton can get to every school that they want to go to regardless of where it is in Stark County stomach County wherever it is you better get them there and they better not be late and so we need to hire more buses we need to have more aids on the buses we need more people to do logistics we need more people to fix buses so you better increase that oh by the way here's all the stuff you have to do for cybersecurity you better get all that stuff done which goes above and beyond all the stuff we already have and guess what it's gonna cost money to do that as well everything that they come up with in Columbus most of it is non-funded mandates that we have to do and then they say
040that we're not fiscally responsible and then they say we're the reason for raising property taxes yes so charter schools also invest in busing and title or do we supply the title the sites and everything else so so how it works and when you look at our staff so when I say we have 650 teachers some of those teachers work at a lot there is Christian st. Pete I know I missed a few st. Thomas Aquinas st. Joan of Arc st. Mike so that we receive federal dollars and so if our kids go somewhere and they qualify for title one services that money is set aside for the nonpubs the charters don't get that they're funded directly to the state but that money set aside for nonpubs and we have to manage that money and and
041and help them use it in the way that they want to and a lot of it's for prime purchasing staff so we hire the people for them and then we pay those people who work in their schools so that number while we're cutting four percent we won't cut them because we don't hire them but it does we do take care of that we do bus charters and nonpubs we do get some funding for that but since they've increased vouchers and they've increased charter school enrollment our transportation costs have exceeded what we get from the state by two million dollars all right that's impacting what we're able to do for kids who go and sit in our classroom we're losing two million dollars to support them while we are transporting kids to other schools and outside
042and we take that responsibility important I want people understand that every kid in the city of Canton we believe her arms and we make sure that they are safe getting to a pro but if that is what they expected of us funded funded so that we are not shortchanging the kids who are choosing to come to Kansas so how does it work child goes to a charters I mean uh let's say St. Thomas doesn't meet the criteria they send that child back who gets the money who gets the money do we get the money back what I what I've heard no so so here's what I want to say without picking on any particular school the only schools in the state of Ohio who are required to educate everyone are traditional public schools so no
043matter who you are where you come from whether you have a disability where you have a way to school where you got to walk to school it doesn't matter you are we are required to accept this is the school district any other school district you break a rule to kick you out you don't pass classes hey you're not gonna graduate hey I'm not I mean I've seen where people have said they have a hundred percent graduation rate I've witnessed the kids who don't have any credits and they've seen your class get kicked out at semester and come back to us well if I could kick out everybody who didn't have enough credits to graduate we would have a hundred percent graduation rate too but we'll do that we take you where you are and we'll
044do everything we can to get you over the hump and I actually have a whole building of dedicated teachers who specialize in just doing that and we take kids from all over the place to get them over the bar no matter how far behind when they get here so to answer your question we are the only business in this city limits that are required to take everybody that comes and knocks on the door and we do. Mr. Talbert when we were writing our legislature legislators about funding us on current inputs of current expenses the people we work with the state were saying that we educate 85 to 90 percent of the students in the state of Ohio and public schools and is that still an accurate figure? Yes the so the the what the number
045we're using is 90% of the students got a cut in how they're funded and got a billion dollars got a got a billion dollars and that is unbelievable. I know you haven't concluded it but I have a suggestion I'd like you to consider in on parents square or in some communication with the with the community give them an easy link to get to this meetings recording because more and more more people than are listening today need to hear what you said today. Yes we see the figures thinking ahead we did that we put that on social media this morning and we'll keep sending it out over and over again we need people to understand what is happening we have great things here in Kansas City School District we have done that because our community has
046supported us we have been fiscally responsible the narrative will be that we haven't been and that's the narrative they want to pay for that's why I had this slide that took you back to say 19% of our funding from the local government always had right over 50% has always come from the state and when you look across the state the state has pulled back they pulled back their share and expect more from the local community while at the same time telling the local community it's the bad school fault yes. Not only that but the legislature is doing everything it can to reduce property taxes except that they're putting the onus on us to raise property taxes because what they've done to us it's it's it's you've been very spirited but this is an outrageous story
047and I thank you for your for your candor and your enthusiasm tonight but this is an outrageous story and it's mean-spirited. It is and and when I tell people again I don't have to say it go look go look and see which school districts are having these conversations right now and then I need for you to say what do those districts have in common and I'm gonna leave it right there what do the districts who are having this conversation right now what do we all have in common and why and then you can make your own interpretation of that but I can tell you that it's not by accident and so again I can't believe what I'm saying all we can do here and how we live by as a district is you know we
048we teach our kids that in life you're faced with events and because of those events you have to make a response and as a result of the response you'll get outcomes and the only thing we can control in that equation E plus R equals O is how we respond so we're talking about this now we're talking about it with our community because as a community we're gonna have to choose the R that is in the best interest of our students going forward we're gonna have to choose the R that's in the best interest of our community this is not a time for people to bicker and fight in-house because if not we will run out of money and I believe there are folks who want that to happen it costs more it costs the state
049more to educate students who live in our community who are living in poverty and there are some people who don't want to support students who are living in poverty somewhere we made a shift where we began to not take care of folks who are less than and so as a community we're gonna have to pick a R that allows our kids to have every chance they have to be successful assistant superintendent came out of Kansas City I came out of Kansas City a lot of folks sitting here on this board came out of Kansas City and we came out at a time where people believed it was right to support every student that ain't the case anymore so we're either gonna have to do that together as a community because I don't know when the
050state's gonna get it right and so we're gonna put this out here again we're gonna be as transparent as we can but again this is not time to point fingers or try to bicker if you all this slideshow all the data you want we will give people we will answer every question but I can tell you and I've worked in multiple districts we have been fiscally responsible we've done everything we need to do we were on track to continue to use the money that they gave us in 2020 well past 2029 which is past the average that we've had as a district until somebody decided that we were gonna fund schools based on inputs from 2021 and we were going to make cuts to that we were no longer going to support the kids who
051are living in poverty the kids with special needs we were going to take that away and the feds doubled down on that and said we weren't going to help you in title that's where we are today and then finally purchases are spending those that's 4% of what we spend our money on and again we believe that because we consolidate buildings we may be able to get between 500 and a million but go back if people that's who we are and so we're gonna have to cut the number of people we have working for us and we're going to do that by consolidating spaces so moving forward as I talked earlier we'll be back here January 5th we will talk about what buildings that were consolidating what programs were consolidating and how we're going to go
052about doing that about we're going to talk about who that will impact what students what staff we will talk we will talk about how that's going to save people how that's going to save materials and supply and we will give you some numbers on that then on January 12th we will come back again and we will take community feedback on that plan and we'll listen to folks and and again the board will have an opportunity to ask questions of us then we will be back if we don't need another meeting January 26th the vote on the final plan with so we will again all of these meetings will be streamed live all these meetings will be open to the public because we want people to know what's going on and we want them to know
053why any questions or we conclude open it up to the floor mr. Kraminski the community feedback session will that be like an extended public speaks here at this meeting yeah what we're still working on what that's going to look like because we want to whether we'll give folks an opportunity to either text or write questions on a card we want to make sure that we're able to to answer as many questions as possible while still not not being here till 1 o'clock in the morning so we will answer that it may even look like we'll put some FAQs out and allow people to ask questions ahead of time so we can get some questions ahead of time and we can craft the presentation to answer questions people might have before the meeting start is there
054a way for us to put the link on our to this meeting on our it's already on our website but maybe put it on the front page because so many community members are confused about our funding how we're funded where our money goes and who funds us yep we can do that thank you any other questions miss Watkins I know this is a go-back question so how will all of this affect preschool it will we're still gonna offer preschool the it may be some reduction in staff at preschool but preschool is so heavily regulated that there's there's ratios that you have to keep I can tell you that in the conversation we've had so far we haven't because they're so heavily regulated and their their staff at minimum levels right now and we've already consolidated
055preschool to save money that was a part of our plan so there's there's I don't think there's much we can we can do there we've already pretty much done that and we we haven't that's not a place I think we can we might cut some materials and supplies there but other than that they'll be okay any other questions mr. Rinaldi I'll jump in here I'll say the stuff that everybody's afraid to say you know who they're attacking people of color urban communities black and brown people are Hispanic folks this is all by design how many times can a ballot initiative get sent to Columbus about gerrymandering and everything and they just don't care when's it gonna stop this isn't something that just started until they wipe this thing clean what are we gonna do our
056elect our local are they only one of our three elected people voted against it right mr. Olschlager but our folks voted for this those folks in Columbus don't care about can they care about themselves and how to be affluent how to hang out in the clubs and do all that stuff because they don't care about our kids they care about their campaign contributors look at the national level this is all by design they're running us into the ground they're gonna take the school buildings that we paid for and give them to the Catholics and the Christian schools and all that we paid for this stuff not them don't sugarcoat this crap you got to vote them out and I know you got to play nice mr. Rinaldi oh my god stop enough play nice with
057what cutting our workforce and we're not the only district when you start cutting all these jobs what's that say to our people I've been around long enough to know that every time that they change the rules because they want to measure the bottom and we figure it out and we have the great people and we have programs and and people in place to to lift that ship up here we are again because we find a way to measure and get things done with great people and we have great community we have great kids but when is it gonna end so everybody's setting out in the suburbs not caring they're coming for you because there's money tied to your district they just haven't got to you yet we're the easy mark and to our local folks
058who don't support us shame on you you should resign because if it's all about going the company line and just save and face thank God for the five Republicans that switch sides about health care in Washington grow a set do what's right for the community not for your career all I know I'm very proud to have sat here a long time and we have a lot of great things in this community we believe in this community and you can't be afraid to say enough and I can't remember the lady's name when McCarthy was was acting like a fool in Washington with communism and all that who's gonna be that person who's gonna step up and make that statement and stop all this madness because everybody's afraid that you can't go with the party line that
059I might not get invited to a party somewhere I might get a half a million dollar donation for my campaign grow a set it just kills me to watch what they're doing to a lot of people in our folks and the people across this state don't deserve that thank you thank you mr. Rinaldi any other comments that concludes my presentation for tonight thank you superintendent Talbert who's reading the mr. Kaminsky mr. president I've moved that we move that we go into executive session to enter into to discuss the employment of a public of a public employees and to discuss a regulated individual with no action to follow second roll call votes mr. Rinaldi aye is Watkins mr. Kaminsky aye this is problem hi mr. Ross I we are out at 620 everybody be safe thank
060you for coming