001Nomin. Heat. Heat. Number eight. Hey, hey, hey. Heat. Heat. feeling. Heat. Heat. N. Welcome everyone. Good morning. Welcome to the regular uh board meeting and public hearing. Today's June 8th, 2026. Like to call this meeting to order. Item 1.2 approval. Oh, sorry. 1.1, the flag salute. I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Item 1.2, approval and adoption of the agenda. >> Approval. Thank you. >> Seconded by Don. All in favor? I >> motion passes unanimously. Item 1.3, public hearing for item 5.1, which is the 2026 2027 MCE budget. Do we have any public comment for >> Go ahead, Petra. >> Do I have three minutes? >> We have three minutes. So,
002my name is Petra Shelter and um I taught nutrition education um for 11 years in the Fort Bifford School District through a federal grant and um several years ago um the grand jury talked uh highly recommended to MCE to the board to hire a dietician. I'm retired, so I I have no benefit from bringing up this topic. My husband wouldn't benefit from it or in any way. Um, and that's why I've not pursued it so much, but um, uh, I'm retired and I would like to bring up the topic to you and get you information over the next few months so that you could consider putting that in the budget in the future that MCE would hire a dietician. They have done it before through RO O, what used to be RO. Uh, and I
003talked to Paul Titchen and he and I go to the same exercise class Tuesday and Thursdays in foot break. So I didn't get the last name of the person but less either Rotoric Ridge or Ridgeback from Yukaya. He supervised all the culinary programs and they had a dietician who would work with the culinary teachers. Uh so they would um the the students would grow the food uh especially like in Anderson Valley they grew the food they brought it to the cafeteria then the culinary arts program used it and I think Fort Bragg does it too and the dietician would support support the culinary instructors throughout Menoscino County. Um and then again the report from the grand jury was several years ago um to hire dietitians. So that would be my report uh today. Do I
004have any more time? >> Yeah, you have one more minute. >> One more minute. Okay. Then I'd like to bring up another topic. Uh my husband and I went to the open house at the Menescino High School and we talked to the shop teacher there. Uh they had really a wonderful exhibit. I mean all of them beautiful artwork to uh with the art teacher there. And the shop teacher, she's point4 and I think my husband might talk about that in his report too. Um she was she and her husband were covered under a covered California and then the current administration um uh cancelled that uh program and so they used to pay $700. And I know uh all of you who will be on the you know health insurance that's going to be 700 plus
005for everybody now. Well she now uh because she's no longer undercover California she's only point4 as a teacher she has to pay $3,000 a month. Um and also one thing she mentioned was she started with four students in shop period. she has 15 students now in each uh class and it's a safety issue she thinks you know having so many students operating with machinery. So those are the two topics I wanted to talk about because it's related in general to um the budget and thank you so much for your time. >> Really appreciate it. >> Thank you. >> I have a question for you Patra. >> Oh yeah. >> Is that appropriate? >> Yes. >> Okay. Um, when you said she's point4, is that you meaning her time? >> Yeah. So, her time is she
006has two periods. >> Okay. >> But she she's pretty maxed out with students. >> And of course, if they would give her another period, then she would get health benefits. And you all know how expensive that is. I think it goes to 6. I'm not 100% sure if you have to be point A to get full benefits or not. >> Okay. Another question on the registered dietitian. Yeah. Do you do you keep in touch with I know it's a small um community of registered dieticians um in the area? >> Um I've known two in Willlets uh during the pandemic. I work with them in putting out information on how to boost your immune system through food and hydration. But there are some really good dieticians in Willlets through Adventist Health. one left town though, Anna
007Herby, but there is another one that um I've worked with before. Really excellent dieticians. Um so yeah, and I'm sure there are others too. >> Thank you. >> Yeah, thank you for your interest. I really appreciate it. Any other questions? >> I have just one comment I wanted to make. You know, back in the old days, back in my day, every high school had a home economics class. And of course they had a a certain perspective mainly the girls took it and it was geared towards them being good wives and I think that's the reason it was sort of eliminated but also in those classes students in the line of nutrition nutrition guidance and it's just not there anymore. >> I think it's replaced with culinary and there's no gender on that. Do we have
008any more public comment in regards to item 5.1 us back in? >> No. >> Okay. >> Seeing none, we'll go ahead and close public comment regarding item 5.1, the MCE budget. >> Do I have to save the time? >> Yeah, we need to close the hearing off. >> 10:06. Moving on to item 1.4, public hearing, uh, concerning an energy services contract. We'll open that up at 10:07. >> There's no public comment on that unless someone here has No. >> Okay. >> Do I have to keep it up in person? >> No, we can close right away if nobody's >> We will seeing none, we'll close public hearing for uh item 4.6 at 107. >> 107. Moving on to item 1.5, public hearing in regards to the 2026 2027 LCAP. Do we have any public comment
009in regards to the LCAP? >> There is no public comment in regards to the LCAP. >> Okay. All right. Seeing none, we will close public comment. 10:07. Moving on to item 1.6, approval and adoption of the minutes from May 11th, 2026. So move. Thank you, Marilyn. We have a second. David. All in favor? >> I. >> Motion passes unanimously. >> Moving on to item 1.7, public participation. And this is for agenda and non-aggenda items. Does anyone have public comment on agenda or non-aggenda items? >> We didn't have anybody fill out awesome. Seeing none, we will move on to item two, correspondence. We have none. Item three, consent agenda. We have none. Moving on to item 4.1, prop 28, arts and music in school funding annual report 2025 2026. >> So this is a required report
010because we received those that those funds. Um I does this need to be approved, Heather? >> So you can see some of what we've um done in that report. We're um we don't have enough to like hire a full-time staff member um uh for this uh but anyway you can see some of the things that we've done and I'm happy to answer any questions. >> So the reason that we have no teachers, no aids, etc. is because we're under that 500 ADA. >> That's for our Yeah, for our schools. you can see that we have been providing arts education >> to our to our schools through other means to to schools um not MCO schools but schools throughout the district. >> Okay. >> Um and and so you can see we've got we've served quite
011a lot of students there um am I reading that right? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Um so the um Prop 28 funds that we receive are for MCA schools. So um community school or creek and And then we also received for early learning and care the preschool and um the majority of that number of students served the 344 that shown up there are the preschool sites students. >> Okay. >> Do we have any questions in regards to the report? >> So yeah I have a question. So, so are these funds so can they are they used to u pay like outside contractors to provide um >> yeah so they can be used for um supplies or you can um pay for instructors uh or outside consultants to come in and maybe show them how to do
012ceramics or I think what um our schools have been doing a lot of and Chris can correct me if I'm wrong but um like mindful martial arts and different things like that. >> Any other questions? >> Do I have a motion to approve the annual report as presented? >> I move you have a second. >> I'll second. >> All in favor? >> I. >> Motion passes unanimously. Uh moving item item 4.2. 2 Resolution 26.6.1 authorizing the filing of applications for naming county office representative and authorizing participation in the Saab. Is that pronounced correctly? >> Sure. >> What is it? State account uh >> uh state school facility program. Okay. >> Or the SAB. I don't I call it SAB but >> SAB. >> The state allocation board. >> Thank you. Um, so this res you're
013going to see there's four items that are all related to the same thing. Um, to be clear, there are no current state facility funds that we're going to we're planning to be awarded on this. Um, but we want to get ourselves in line for any future funding. So the first resolution um is authorizing um the authorized signers for our organization which would be no, myself and then Ryan Bartto and that's just for like providing information needed to the state allocation board. Um, yep, that's the first one. Okay, any questions in regards to this resolution? >> Okay, seeing none, do I hear a motion to approve? >> I move we approve item 4.2, resolution 26.6. >> Thank you, do I hear a second? >> I'll second. >> All in favor? >> I motion passes unanimously. Moving
014on to item 4.3, resolution 26.6.2, two, authorizing the filing of applications for state allocation board administered programs for MCOE. >> So, there's a there's a couple of these that look very very similar, and I keep getting myself confused on them. This one though, I believe, is um also establishing our intent to apply, but also acknowledging that and under these new rules under the proposition two, um that a facility's master plan would be required after I think it's like six months or something of their review of our application. So, um that's something that we're aware of and so this would just be um acknowledging that requirement. >> Any questions? Seeing none, do I hear a motion? >> I'll move approval. >> Thank you, David. Do I have a second? >> Don, all in favor? >> Okay.
015Motion passes unanimously. Moving on to item 4.4, resolution 26.6.3, 6.3 authorizing the filing of applications for state allocation board administered facility hardship. >> This one is also acknowledging our intent to apply for the state uh facility program. Um and that's basically it. The these four are very very similar, >> but these are all required in order for us to um submit our application for funds. >> Any questions in regards to this resolution? I have a motion to approve. I move we approve item 4.4, resolution 26.6.3. Thank you. >> I'll second. >> Seconded by Don. All in favor? >> I. >> Okay. Motion passes unanimously. Moving on to item 4.5, resolution 26.6.4, authorizing the filing of applications for state allocation board administered facilities hardship. So, this one is also establishing our intent to file, but this
016is more specifically for facility hardship or the seismic mitigation funding. So, um we're submitting these all not not knowing for sure if we're going to, you know, need to look at these ones. Facility hardship though is um the only really avenue that county offices um can really access. So, um that is the one that we'll probably end up utilizing. And just I was just reading about it um over the weekend and it sounds like there's no monies at all in the foreseeable future for this, >> right? >> Has there been any further discussion on a state level as as far as like how many years they project that we will be in this vote? >> Yeah, it's hard to know. Um when they pass a bond, usually there's such a line a wait list of
017people who have already submitted applications. So this if we get any funding, it'll probably be like several years, five plus years down the road. But nonetheless, we want to get ourselves in line for any future funding. >> Right. That's smart. Let's do that. Thank you. So, thank you. Any questions or comments? I hear a motion to approve 26.6.4. >> I'll move approval. >> Thank you, David. >> I'll second. >> Seconded. All in favor? >> I. >> The motion passes unanimously. Moving on to item 4.6, resol resolution 26.6.5. 6.5 concerning an energy services design build contract. >> Okay. And this resolution, um, Gabe Johnson from Caesar Co. is also here in attendance, so he can help me answer any questions that I can't answer. Um, this project, um, just for clarification, there was a design bill
018contract we brought to you at a previous meeting and that was for the MCE solar project. This one is for the MCE micro grid project. >> Um, and this one we're looking to utilize the government code 4217. We work with legal counsel um and this one is 100% grant funded if awarded um and under through PG. And so a PG does is they um allocate up to a certain amount of millions of dollars. Um and what our application is for is up to 9 something million. Um the amount that would be awarded to us based on our application is just a little over 5 million. It's 5,95,000. Um and then they also allocate up to an additional three million for allowances. That money won't come to us. Um and the design build um P Geny
019actually recommended Cer because they've gone through this before. So it actually bumps us up a little bit on the u eligibility gives us extra points for the review. Um and so then doing the design build was actually intended to save time, reduce cost, creates one point of contact because they would be managing the whole project versus having like subcontractors or a separate contractor. Um and then also one of the benefits would be fewer change orders. So that is what this project is. And for anyone who might not know, the micro grid um project if awarded. So um if we do not get awarded, we would just be moving forward with the $25,000 um design portion that Caesar Co has already done and that would be granted from Pen. So there's no money out of MSE's
020pocket on on any of this. Um and the project would be located on the the property next door where the CCC was in the very very back so that we're not utilizing potential future space that we might need. Any questions for Heather? >> Yeah, I'm interested in just understanding more. Um, so micro grid project. What >> So this is like this would be um part of the solar project or a addendum to it or what? >> It would it would actually that's a great question. It would actually be two separate projects. The MCE solar project was intended to for solar and to save costs on utilities. This micro grid project is really just for resiliency um as the county um our IT team manages a lot of like the network infrastructure stuff um firewalls and
021things. So when our sites go down and during power outages there's an impact for there. We do have generators but they don't last for multiple days. Um so this micro grid project would in the event that a power there's a power outage for this area um we would just come right back online. So there's not a um we would just continue to pay the same fees to PG that we have been paying. Um and it wouldn't be a savings at all. Um but it would be the resiliency and it also includes our neighbors here between this property and the property next door. >> So is it a that's great because I was curious too. I didn't want to sound like but so it when you're offrid you've got your own generators. So basically we're supplying
022our own power. We would be have a backup power system. Is that what the micro grid means? >> The micro grid would be solar powered. So there's going to be solar panels that would feed into that micro grid. So that whenever a power goes out rather than relying on our generators that don't last for, you know, I think more than 24 hours. Um if there was like a prolonged one, this would just automatically kick back on and it would keep our facility running. Um as well as our the residences that are right next door. Is it powered with fuel though or how is it powered? >> No, it's uh just the um the solar panels that feed that the battery. >> Yeah. >> What is the footprint? >> It's large. Um I don't remember that
023off top of my head though. Gabe, do you remember? >> Um you think like a large storage container. >> Okay. >> Approximately >> like a C train storage container. >> Is it like a bees system? Is that what it is? battery energy storage system. >> Okay. Oh, okay. And and just one one >> just one, right? >> Okay. >> Thank you. >> So, super important for us because when um when power goes out in our county, and we have had this before where power is out for multiple days, um we're a hub. Uh we run payroll um for our entire for all the schools in our county. Um and and we al also have made ourselves available um in when others have lost power and and we have it for their essential needs to send
024people. So as a county agency, making sure that we don't shut down when other people do is really important. Any further questions? Okay. Um actually I did have a question. Uh resolution 26.6.5 I think it states that the project will not exceed 5,95,000. >> Yes. >> But the contracts I think add up I'm sorry phase one and phase two >> add up to 5,18,100. What's the difference is about $77,000 I think. Is what's is the difference because we're there's unforeseeable potential. >> No, I think that might just be a clerical error. Let me see if I can really fix it. >> It is a great question what the cost to MC out of MCO's pocket would be. Is that what you're getting? >> No, there's no cost out of our pocket. I think it was
025>> I think I remember there's a So if if we get awarded the 5 million um there's a 2% withhold for our staff time that would be covered under those. So that's the difference. >> That's and to thank you so much. >> Took me a minute to remember that. >> Okay. So do we need to approve the agreement separate from the resolution >> or can we approve it all together? Okay. >> I we approve item 4.6 6 resolution 26.6.5. I'm sorry for cutting you off. >> I'll second. >> Thank you. Uh all in favor. >> Okay. >> Motion passes unanimously. Moving on to item 4.7, the second read of board policies. Um board policy uh 1312.4, four, which is the Williams uniform complaint procedures and board policy 1160, our political um processes. Do we have
026any questions or clarifications for those two board policies? Okay, seeing none, do I have a motion to approve these board policies as written? >> I'll move approve. Thank you. >> I'll second. >> All right. All in favor? I. >> Okay. Motion passes unanimously. Moving on to item 5.1, the 2026 2027 MOE MCE budget presentation with Suzanne Steelely. So, I think you all have a copy of the presentation just so you might be easier to follow along. So, the first sheet here shows um our budget cycle. Um this is a review of the budget cycle um and an explanation of what it is. We are currently at the first phase of the budget cycle which is that top bubble, the June adopted budget. And this is developed in the spring of each year and it has
027to be adopted and uh submitted to CPE by June 30th. And the purpose of a budget is to collect to allocate resources, meet goals, and ensure the public funds are spent responsibly. So on the next page here, this is a brief summary of the budget. There are three columns. The first column is estimated actuals and estimated actuals are the current year revised budget amounts. The second column is a June proposed budget and the third column is a difference between the two. So looking at the June proposed column, you can see that our beginning projected beginning fund balance is a little over 27 million. Our total revenues are 27.6 million. Total expenditure is 27.7 million and then the net decrease to in fund balance is uh $26,000. We have an ending balance of $26.9 million. So
028now we'll go into detail of all these budget components. The first component is the beginning fund balance and like I mentioned it was $27 million. This figure is projected using the 2526 revised budget ending fund balances and the actual beginning balances will be known once we close our books in October and then that number will be reflected on our first interim budget. The actual beginning balances are always higher than what's projected in June because revenues usually come in more than projected and expenses are usually less than budgeted. Revenue assumptions. So these are factors that were considered in projecting 2627 revenues. Our assumptions include the local control funding formula, statutory cost of living adjustment or cola of 2.87% and that's combined with a discretionary investment cola of 1.44% 44% for a total LCFF cola of 4.31%.
029This is referred to as a super cola by some and the additional funds are intended to help local educational agencies manage rising costs and to fund a new requirement to provide paid pregnancy disability leave. We applied the full 4.3% COLA to the LCFF funding sources and the statutory cola 2.87% 87% to the other state funding sources. Property taxes were adjusted per the principal aortionment estimates. Principal aortionment is the primary source of funding for LEAs for general purpose funding. We applied the full 4.3 1% cola to LCF. Oh, I said that. I'm sorry. We added, removed or adjusted grants per projected funding. And then we reduced direct services revenues in conjunction with cost decreases. So there's a less need of our districts for um our direct services such as psychologists, nurses, occupational physical therapists, and speech
030services. So that results in less revenue. Our assumptions for revenues resulted in the following. So our LCFF projected revenue is 11.2 million. LCFF funding is comprised of the alternative education base grant and the supplemental and concentration funding with and that total is $1.1 million. These are our county community school and our West Hills Juvenile Hall school funding. The county operations grant is $4.5 million. Differentiated assistance is 1 million3 33,000. Education protection account is $5,600. And then local property taxes are $4.5 million. And this is the amount that remains in our general fund after 37% is passed through to SOPA. Our federal revenues are $1.9 million. This is less than the 2526 estimated actuals and the reasons for that are funding decreases. Um funding decreases can happen for ADA um our unduplicated count different things like
031that. So we have saw a reduction in title one um supplemental inclusive practices rural and low income and title 4 also in mental health aware and then some funding sources that ended were title one ESSA or every student succeeds act that was 91,000 and then Cal Bloom 45,000 although I think Cal Bloom may be renewed but we don't know that for sure yet and there were no notable funding increases or new funding sources for the federal um funding. State revenues are $4.1 million and we saw decreases in the afterchool education or ACES California community school partnership learning communities for school success. And then state funding that was removed includes student support and professional development, literacy coach, reading specialist, learning recovery, and K16 Redwood initiative. Now, when I say these are removed, it doesn't mean that
032we no longer have the funding. Um, I'll explain later that it just was removed from the revenue category and now it's in the beginning balance category because we have multiple years to spend. New or increased state funding includes the special ed mental health. We saw a slight bump 300 bucks and then equity multiplier increase 64,000. Local revenues are 10.1 million and those reductions included the mental health student support healthc care career pathways calms MSCS which is math science computer science title three regional county office of education and then medical local revenues that were removed include the medical assistant student fund 75,000 that was a donation we've received several years ago and it was fully spent in 2526. Also, 21st Century Foster Homeless Youth Foundation, Community Foundation, that was also a donation that was spent. We
033use that on um providing meals, weekend meals for um homeless students and in student behavioral health. So there was an overall decrease in our revenues and typically revenues increase or decrease maybe increases or decreases maybe due to ADA changes unduplicated pupil count factors funding balances such as deferred revenue or carryover or our practice of budgeting revenues only when actual amounts are received. So I laid out four examples here of the different types the different reasons that our revenue might increase or decrease. Um the first one is our LCFF. Our revenue in that um category was increased and that was because it was calculated based on the most recent certified average daily attendance. Example two, our title one decreases are due to changes in student demographics such as those that qualify for free and reduced meals,
034English learners, foster youth, and low income. Those are known as unduplicated pupils. Our afterchool technical assistance um 2526 deferred revenue was removed um for the 2627 budget because we no longer had deferred revenue. and then our medical revenue was removed and that's because we budget those revenues only when we receive them. Um that number changes constantly and we're currently looking back several years almost a decade of medical reimbursements and um we don't know what the amounts will be going forward. So expenditure expenditure assumptions are factors that were considered when projecting the 26 27 expenses and they include changes in um revenues that so changes in revenues also affect changes in expenditures. So when revenues like from grants and things like that go up or down so do the expenses. there was a 2% step and
035column increase for our salaries and then we projected a 3% salary schedule increase. Conversely, the salaries decreased um in relation to staffing changes. There were fewer requests from districts for our direct services and so that resulted in fewer positions and then we also removed several vacancies that we haven't been using. The benefits changed in conjunction with the salary changes. There was a slight decrease in the PERS public employee retirement system rate from 26.81 to 26.4. Um this is the first time it's starting to go down in several years. Um the per the stir state teachers retirement system stays flat at 19.1%. And then there's a health cap increase and that health cap is 1,125 per year. Utilities increase each year and then our transfers out decrease because we remove the one-time $2.25 million transfer to
036our capital facilities fund that we took care of in 2526. And then we removed all of our capital expenditures in the general fund. Um the certified nursing assistant building renovation is complete and then there were some um some equipment that was purchased in 2526. Our total expenditures are 27.7 million. Salaries are 14.7 million. Benefits are 6.9 million. materials, supplies, and equipment are 833,000, which is a decrease of 430,000 from our current revised budget. And those are reduced per revenue reductions. Like I mentioned before, when revenues go down, we cut um costs. And then also too, we look at when we're developing a budget, our current year actual expenses. So if we see that they're trending much less or more but usually less than what's budgeted then we'll reduce the budget in the following year. Mileage
037reimbursements and professional development are 463,000. Dues and memberships are 58,000. Our insurance liability is 2 215,000. There's no change. um that might change in the coming year depending on um the different um liability payments we have to make to the self insurance plan and I can't remember what that acronym is um school >> school employee >> liability fund something like that and that's because of the California law to where um victims of abuse can um file claims for decades in the past. And even though we make a payment, doesn't mean we have a claim. All of the school districts, county offices, LEAs in the state pay into this fund um whenever a claim comes around, no matter where it is in the state. Utilities are 259,000 and that's an increase of 17,000 and those costs
038continue to rise every year. Rentals, leases, and repairs are 88,000 183,000 I'm sorry. Interd department transfers are 174,000. These are the amounts that are moved to the general fund from SULPA and our early learning and care fund 12 to cover admin and business costs. Professional and consulting services are $2.3 million. Communications are $642,000. Um that was a decrease of 37,000. on this um notes I put that's mostly due to -ate and -ate provides discounts on broadband services for schools and libraries across the state across the country and this is funding from the FCC so discounts depend on the level of poverty and location of schools seeking support and MCO manages and circuits for the county so if a school district might come out of that poverty rate or um if their circuits are already in
039place, if they need new circuits, that can all change the funding. Equipment and facilities. Um I mentioned that I reduced that to zero and because we've already purchased the pro um equipment or done finished the projects that we were doing in 2526 and then transfers out our $1.4 million and that's a decrease of 2.2 2 million and that was that transfer for the solar project. So there's a net decrease in fund balance which is referred to as deficit spending and the a net increase to fund balance would be a surplus. A deficit occurs when there are more expenses than revenues and a surplus occurs when there are more revenues than expenses. And this budget results in deficit spending in the amount of $26,000, which is very minimal. Compare that to our 2526 interim projected deficit
040spending of 2.6 million. Although 2.25 million was from the transfer of funds for the solar project, we would have had a deficit of $436,000. So it's a $400,000 improvement from our revised budget to this budget. Deficit spinning is a result of funds that were revenue in 2526 but moved to fund balance in 2627. This occurs when multi-year revenues are all received in one year but were allowed to spend those over several subsequent years. And then in many instances the beginning fund balance rather than revenue is used to cover those expenses. Our ending fund balance is $26.9 million. And this is calculated by adding the surplus or deficit to our beginning fund balance. And this just shows a little calculation. Takes our revenues of 27.6 million less expenses of 27.7. And then we have a deficit
041of 26,000 plus our beginning balance of 27 million. And that leaves us with the ending fund balance of $26.9 million. That ending fund balance is comprised of um different components based on specific parameters. So our commitments are board approved reserves that are held for very specific uses. And we have a commitment of facilities upgrades for 2 and a.5 million, technology upgrades 1.145 million, district loans of 2 million, and then stirs and pers increases of $293,000. Assignments are unrestricted amounts that have not yet been expensed, and that is at $1.1 million. Restricted program balances are restricted resources resource amounts that have not yet been expensed and that is $2.4 million. Then we have a reserve for economic uncertainty and that's a safety net that would meet our expenses for approximately two months and it represents about
04215% of our general fund expenditures. That amount is 4.1 million. Unappropriated reserves are $13.3 million. This amount is unappropriated or unassigned and it can be used to cover deficit spending, unanticipated expenses, etc. In summary, the proposed budget was developed using the most current information available, including the governor's May revision, local control funding formula calculations, grant revenue projections, enrollment, and staffing projections. The projections include a significant be beginning fund balance. And although we project um reduced revenues, the reductions in expenses far exceed those revenue decreases, which positively affects our deficit spending. We continue to deficit spend, but the amount is minimal and as a result of it's a result of careful monitoring of budgeted expenses and deficit spending. Our deficit is a result of multi-year funds that are no longer coded to revenue. Rather, they're coded
043to beginning fund balance as the revenue was received in prior year but can be spent in subsequent years. Our financial outlook is positive and we're able to meet our financial obligations for the current and two subsequent years. >> Thank you. >> I do have a question for you. Going back to revenues um where you outlined what was removed um the foster youth homeless community foundation which provided weekend meals. Um, are we looking are we funding that in some other fashion or >> No. So, that was a one-time donation, but I believe I heard after this budget was developed that they did another donation and I can't remember what the amount is. And we also receive a very significant donation from um >> juvenile hall >> from the probation department. >> Probation department. And I think
044it's up about 80,000 now. And that is solely to provide um meals for the homeless students. >> And those are also snack packs. >> Snack packs. Okay. And that is countywide. >> Yes. Okay. Thank you. The other question I had in regards to utilities. Um we do expect that to improve once we're fully on board and um our solar project is completed. I can't remember the numbers that we were projecting, but it seemed like it was going to be a substantial savings. >> Yeah, it will be. Um, and that project is starting to get underway, so we'll see it. I think it should be finalized by the by 2020, December of 2027, I believe. >> Okay. >> Yeah, those will occur. >> Thank you. >> Any further questions for Suzanne? >> No, I had a
045comment and a question. Uh, I just want to say I think it's first of all, it's great. This is a very thorough and yes, >> excellent report. So, >> um I really like that you um have budgeted for colas for your workers. I think that's >> awesome. It's important that we take care of our workers, teachers, staff. That's great. Put it right in the project it in the budget. >> Um I did have a question. I I was just wondering um you mentioned statutory 2.87% cola. What What can you just What does that mean? >> So that 2.8% 8% cola is the cola that um actually in the governor's budget that's what they project the cola to be but I think there are things that need to happen with um other government agencies that will
046set that in stone so it's not set in stone yet but that's probably what it will be >> so that is set like on the state level they said >> in July and then um that is a cola that everybody receives. So the additional cola was for that um just for the LCFF funding sources and that was mainly to cover a new mandate to provide the pregnancy disability leave. >> Yeah, that's great. >> Yeah, >> it's all very good. Yeah, >> hope it all falls through. >> Any further questions for Suzanne? >> I I do. I see a 3% salary increase which I support but I'll just my question is who determines the salary increase? >> We we we negotiate and so we we're coming up on closing negotiations for this coming year. Um we
047anticipate having everything signed off this week really um to so that it so that any increases take effect July 1. Um and then we'll start next year our negotiations team will start negotiating for the subsequent year. So we we have um uh California Federation of Teachers is um they represent both our classified and certificated and then Heather is our chief negotiator and then Becky Jeff from our director of personnel is alo also on the negotiations team as is um one of our attorneys or an attorney through school school and college and then they the our unions have our union has a classified negotiations team and a certificated negotiations team. I'm just adding a comment here just because you know I've been in the workforce for so long it c cost of living is it's a
048great question great um subject to bring up but I it seems that 3% has historically been a cost of living you know that people could average 3% but lately cost of living is higher so I mean we're we're estimating it to be under three but three's been sort of average but now with the food the way it is gas the way it is I think our cost of living is really going to skyrocket. >> So, um the 2.87 cola is the revenue that we'll receive through the local control funding formula cola coming from the state level. The 3% um salary schedule increase is an addition to the 2%ish step column that all staff members will receive. Um and we are we closed with classified negotiations. We're just wrapping up the rest of certificated, but the
049salary settlement is completely done. Um, and in addition to that, we did an increase to the health cap of $1,06. So, that brings it up to 16,500 total. So, it also helps on the other side with like, you know, lowering those health premiums for them. >> That's great. >> That's a great point. Great. >> Yeah. >> Boy, uh, as a county employee, >> I know. I know. >> I just have to say that's excellent. uh getting the negotiations done before the contract ends. That's never happened while I've worked for the county. >> Yeah, >> we we our the union partners are um and our negotiations team, they're they're pretty great and I think there's a and a commitment to making sure that people know what they're getting paid. We have been situations where we do
050retro payments, but we always prefer to get it ahead of time so people can start the year off with their with their with the pay they're going to get. >> Yeah, it's fantastic. >> It's great that we keep up with all that. Okay, any further questions? >> Thank you, Suzanne. >> Okay, moving on to item 5.2, the LCAP 2627 LCAP with Chris Francis. >> Chris and Jennifer's here to answer any questions as well. Um, this comes to you. Um, so this is the what we'll be approving on Wednesday. Um, so today is um the board if if there's a input from the board um this is the time to give it. I know you've seen it before. Um, so this is there's nothing really new here. I don't know if there's much changed since the
051last time they saw it, Chris, but a lot of input goes into this from um different community partners and parents. >> Yeah, really this just um encapsulates the all the input that we received so far. There was the board input um that happened couple meetings ago in May. Um on those sheets for goals one, two, and three. Uh throughout the process this year of completing our our W was review um we developed an action plan through Wasque and one of the items there is to um align the Wasque action plan um into this plan and we've done that in goals um one and two and three. Um so the same updates that I had in the initial board um presentation for input are are in those already as long along with the rationale for it.
052There weren't any fundamental um funding changes or expenditures that happened um that were of note. Um we did go through our s stakeholder engagement um process. We also included um some available metrics uh for our um our goals um that are the first part of the goal. One really one that was kind of surprised me um was um uh I think like a 13% reduction in suspension um for our K community schools um and also there was um a reduction um in the amount of chronically absent students at our creek school um which I thought was pretty cool um and um so we are also um putting in there um doing a curriculum alignment for for the next LCAP cycle um and we're also So we um piloted our our new um imagine learning our
053student assessment um system. So that's in in place and we'll have better uh local data to report for next year too. But um all signs are looking pretty good for that right now. Uh so no substantial changes um but be prepared for next year. Um this going to begin the writing of the next LCAP cycle. Um so this next year 26 27 is year three. Um and um it's a three-year cycle. So there'll be lots of input sessions and all sorts of things that'll be happening for the development of the uh the 2728 you know so on LCAP. So >> okay thank you any input questions comments. All right thank you. >> All right thank you. Okay, moving on to item 5.3, the differentiated assistance summary report for 2520 report 2526 for 2627. >> Yeah.
054And uh Dr. Odell um would normally present this and she wasn't able to be with us here today. Um so this goes over some of the DA work that um was offered through the county office of education. Jennifer Collie is here. Um if there are any questions that um that you have, Jennifer can probably feel those. If not, we can get back to you after Nicole Adele is able to re be a um be with us. >> Any questions? Okay, seeing none, we will move on. >> Does this require approval? >> No, it's just a report. Yeah. >> Great. Thank you. >> I have a question on the next item. Um I was it says that um >> conference is in Anaheim but it's actually >> oh we're not there yet. We still have we're
055uh so moving on to item 5.4 California dashboard. >> Okay. I thought we were moving 55. I'm just jumping. >> That's okay. We'll get there. I promise. >> Any questions in regards to this document. >> Okay. Seeing none, we will now move on to item 5.5, CSBA annual education conference. >> You're right. It's in San Diego, not >> that's what Yeah, San It says Anaheim, but I didn't know if we needed to correct that just for >> Well, it sure it was. It's just here to discuss. Um, so I'm I'm definitely attending because I'm on the planning committee. Um, and I know sometimes board members have um gone some uh when it's in Northern California, but not in Southern California. I think Marilyn, you've gone when it's in Southern California. the expense wasn't that different.
056Um, when you went, I think it was, you know, the the mileage reimbursement versus the airline ticket. Yeah. >> So, it's kind of just a matter of preference. Um, but I wanted to put it on your radar because, um, there's a room block. This is, you know, there's thousands of people that attend this and, um, the hotel rooms that are nearest the convention get, um, get reserved right away. And so if if anyone knows now that they want to go, we want to reserve your rooms right away um so that we get you in those that are closest to the convention. So it'll be um at the San Diego Convention Center, I think, is where it's at. So >> what do you think the deadline is on knowing? >> I think you can sign up
057for for the It's pretty late getting the room. It gets really really hard, but I think you can sign up pretty late for the for the conference. >> For the for the room, though. >> Oh, for the room. Yeah, it'll it'll launch June 9th. Okay. And it and they open it up about 8:00 and about 8:02 everything. >> Yeah, I'd like to go, but I think >> I think I'm going to have a conflict in December, but I'll find out. >> Yeah. And and so, um, if we can't get a room right nearby, there are, you know, you can get a room and Uber there. And >> they'll have probably like 15 >> different hotels. >> Yeah. But they'll do like shuttles like they'll have that option as well. >> So, but if anybody knows
058now for sure that you're going, we'll make sure to get a room for you when we get a room for me. And hopefully we can get a room for me that's nearby. And the conference is um it's a multi-day conference. There's they have a pre-conference um that we went to last year. The pre-conference is like a an all day workshop sort of thing. And then the conferences or the conference has um 40 45 minute or an hourlong um workshops just throughout the day and they have different strands. Um so it's it's an all day from 8 in the morning. Um they have general assemblies so they've got big you know speak um they have speakers that come in um and then they have things in the evenings different paid events or or some of them
059are um free events hosted events where you meet um like school and sorry uh small school district association or groups like that will host like an ordev hour um so that you can meet some of their staff and so there's um it's it's a it's a sort sort of thing where you want to hydrate and wear tennis shoes because it's like all day long. Um, and it's really great. Um, but as you know, there's all kinds of online trainings that we can attend as well. This offers something very different because you're meeting and hearing um you're meeting other board members and really um growing your understanding of how different districts and different county offices operate, which is um which is helpful. So, it's going is great and if you don't go, it's that's fine. Um
060I just want to make sure that you know it it is an option and um we from our county we usually have um at least three districts that send um board members to the to the um conference as well. I went for my very first time this last December as a new board member and I found it very beneficial and I really kind of and I actually I like the fact that they did have some um discussions tailored to county office of education. Um so I learned quite a bit and I I focused on things that were going to get me started. Um but I think if I were to do it again um I think I would focus more on the financial >> side of things. Since you're on the planning committee, is there
061going to be equal or more county related? >> Um I they have some most of it is geared towards school districts >> or it might cover both. Um the topics that I've reviewed um as we review the the different presentations or or proposals. Um they're all things that would be informational for you to do for like that would edify your work. Um but not all things that you actually do as county board members. Um there's some discussion like general things like um communication and communication during a crisis and navigating a crisis that applies to any board. Um they also have um topics um related specifically to um students in and students whose parents are in the military you know so some of it's very specific or students who uh live near the border and cross
062over the border and go to school in both Mexico and California you know so some of it's very specific I do think that there is plenty to keep a county board member engaged in work that is theirs and in fact um last year David you were there as well and we went to um I think the three of us went um a lunchon that was specifically for county boards and we heard a presentation about Foster Farret which is an app for foster students because county offices run that program. So yeah, there's plenty to keep a county board member engaged. >> It it's wonderful. It it just um sort of invigorates you and >> reminds you of why you're there and your options. And um >> I got some hope with workforce housing was I went
063to a seminar on that and it's just it's nice to see what other counties are doing. >> Yeah. Yeah. You know >> um and if you are able to go for part of it and not all of it you don't have to be there the whole time which is another >> and sorry can you repeat the deadline for letting me know is it well you said tomorrow >> today if you know for sure. >> Okay. because and and um so we will likely get a room for me and one other room just in case that we can also cancel. Okay. >> Um but if you if we knew that there was more than one person coming, we'd probably try to get more more rooms. >> I'm going to try. >> Okay. >> But I guess
064I need to come. >> We'll try to get two rooms for the whole time. Um and keep our fingers crossed that we can do that. >> Okay. Great. >> All right. Any other questions, comments? Okay. Moving on to item 6.1. M the school programs and student enrollment reports there. Yeah, >> no major changes, >> right? >> Moving on to Oh, sorry. Any comments, questions? >> No, I just said straightforward. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Uh item 6.2, the human resource human resources personnel report. Was it very short and sweet? Mhm. >> Can I ask a question? >> How are we How are we doing with Chris's placement? >> We have somebody hired for um to be principal. His name is Mark Phelise. He's coming to us. He's currently the principal in Point Arena. Um I believe
065he grew up in this area. Is that true? Or he has family in this area? One of the >> So yeah. Yeah. So he's already been he's already met with Chris. He's excited about coming over. So we're very excited about him. Nice. Any other questions? All right, seeing none, we'll move on to item 6.3, the educational services report. >> So, without Dr. Adele to highlight things, I I know that you guys read that report and if there's anything else you want to call out, we're happy to discuss it. >> Any comments or questions? I did have one, but I wasn't sure. I mean, and now that Dr. Nicole Odell isn't here. I'm not sure if anyone can answer it, but um looking at the homeless foster youth report, it's on item or sorry, page four
066>> where it talks about homeless and foster youth one-on-one district trainings completed for the year. >> What is that? What does that look like? Like what is >> I think that's training with their district foster liaison. >> The liaison. >> Each district has to have a foster liaison. I think that's what that is. But we can get >> and then it says is that 10 out of 13 districts completed and eight out of 11 charters completed >> and those are liaison within the >> okay their liaison by the way are not they're often especially in our smaller districts it's it might they might be have they have multiple hats but that's one of the hats that they wear is that it's not a full-time job necessarily but they all have to have a foster laz
067All right, moving on to item 6.4, business and administrative services report with Heather Rantula. I'll keep it brief. Um, you heard from Suzanne, we finished up the adopted budget, which is great. She does an excellent job. Um, and external fiscal, we're really just supporting the same process for all of our LEAs. Um, in our maintenance department, um, we have started the kickoff meeting for the solar project. Um and part of the um the IRA incentive that we were trying to make sure that we lock in. There's two criteria to to meet that. One is to get a portion of that project like under construction by July 4th, which is kind of like locks it in. Then it could take I'm going to exaggerate. It could take three years to finish and then we would still
068receive those IRA um incentives. The other one is having it completed by December 31st of 2027. um we wanted to make sure that we were able to lock in the first one. We just want that, you know, like we don't want to get later on and realize we we miss a deadline or something. Um so we've been working with Caesar Co. Um and you know getting like the design underway, the inverters, the RSDs, which I don't know stand that stands for, but also like the racking structures, like purchasing the equipment and getting those pieces and meeting the the definition of construction for this project. Um, so we've we've already been able to meet that. So that kind of makes me feel better. Um, we've also the maintenance team is also working on sort of um
069office space needs throughout um the campus. Um, and they've added an additional office space in the main older building and they did an excellent job. It's a very good they do very good work. Um, our technology team has completed the installation of new cameras throughout the campus. We've have some like older ones that were kind of handme-down. So, we're upgrading so that we have better visibility at night and things like that. Um, and then we also finalized some fiber upgrades for the CNA and some other ones. Uh, technologies work really ramps up over summer because they do a lot to support some of the districts. Um, and then in um other parts of the work that we do, we just closed up the open enrollment process for health insurance. Um, and we're still closing out
070stable. So we're going to have that process for the next year or so um as it you know fully dissolves. Um otherwise we're moving forward with resz and things are going smoothly. So that is all I have. >> Any questions regarding >> So you did you did say that we we met the requirement of breaking ground or whatever. >> Yeah. By July 4th. So, I mean, we could have made it another way, but I just for my own sanity, I feel better knowing we met the first requirement. >> That's a lot of work. You juggle so much. I don't know how you do it all. >> Well, I have a really good team, so >> Oh, that's awesome. All right, any other questions? Seeing none, we're going to move on to item 6.5, our superintendence
071report and district updates. >> Yes. So, since our last meeting, um there's been several things that have been going on. May is a really busy month in schools. Um I was able to give I was invited to give a presentation to the Yukaya Kowanas Club talking about some of the work that we do at um the county office of education. Um I received an invitation by the um city of 10,000 Buddhas um who with they hosted the community foundation event. Actually, the invitation went to BLE um but I got to tag along as well. of life is our our foster homeless liaison and she um was one of the the grant recipients. Um so we really appreciate the the hospitality of the city of 10,000 Buddhists and the hard work of the community foundation. Um
072I I've joined a new committee because I was running low. Um I I'm part of a statewide K12 highspeed network. Um so I I haven't officially started in that role. I start um in July. Um I did attend my first introductory meeting to meet the other um other members. Um this this group works on high-speed reliable bandwidth for K12 schools. Um and uh so I'm I'm representing the Calron County superintendents on that. Um our I really appreciate the work of our county um office of emergency services. um they they always include our county office in in preparation meetings um remembering that schools are an important part of our community and so in May they had their pre-fire season coordination meeting um which was um just making sure that we have good communication and there's a
073lot to it I don't want to diminish in any way but for the county office and for schools um the communication and us being aware of the work that they do so that um in an emergency we can um be partners. Uh so I appreciate that invitation. Not every county office experiences that I've learned. Um I also received an invitation to the Hopland Research Center. They they have celebrated their 50th anniversary. Um the work they do is really really important um in the education beyond K12 education, but they also partner or do good work for K12. So I attended that with um another MCOE employee, our our naturalist attended with me. Um we had the ACCBE conference here which was um well attended. This room was packed but that was um a wonderful conference. We
074had staff appreciation lunches. We do three of them so that we can get in locations where our staff are and um just really happy to celebrate our staff in the month of May. Uh got was invited to the UKI unified day of the provider. This is something that their community transition program does where they invite um local officials, law enforcement, fire department. Um really so that their students who are um it's a specialed program for young adults um but that those adults have an interaction with leaders, especially firefighters and law enforcement. And so that th those um so that those first responders as well have an experience with them. so that in the community and once they leave the program that both the responders have a better understanding of how um these adults navigate the
075world and these students um maybe aren't quite as fearful um when they encounter um first responders and school leaders. It's really it's a really fun time and you see students playing you know volleyball or you know play playing games with the firefighters and it's it's really really great. Um, Dharma Realm Buddhist University had a tea and conversation for community leaders and the university president. That was I I was honored to be invited to that. Um, they are the university just right down the the road. they're the only university in our county and that they're really um it they've I it feels like they're really ramping up their engagement with um with the community and I appreciate that and certainly their their school leader um um attends our trainings and so we have a good partnership
076there and I I appreciated the invitation. Um the the rural professional learning network there was a um we Dr. Dr. Odell and I were invited to um join u staff from Blosser um elementary school in Willlets and Willlets Elementary School um Will Willlets Charter Elementary School um who did um a collaborative professional learning network where they um there's a studentled project and then the staff goes and um visits each other's sites and they learn what they did. So it's just professional learning really meant to edify the kind of fill the cup of the educators and also um through elevating the work of of student led student work. I think I probably should have switched the student led work that also edifies the the the educator. But it was just such an honor to we we
077were able to go and have dinner with them, but we we didn't get to we had a a previous engagement. We weren't able to join them when they did their um school walkthroughs, but just to sit with educators and talk about work that they're excited about, work that they're frustrated by. Um it was really a wonderful um get together and we appreciate the work. It's a nonprofit organization that kind of brought that together. Um, we had our alt alt ed graduation last week. Um, and then there's the promotion of the students in the younger grades. We had one high school graduate. I really appreciate the work that Chris has done to make that such an awesome event. Um, and then I have a new role as the chair of the California County Superintendent Legislative Committee.
078Um, which also puts me on the board of directors. So, that's another another committee that I want. Actually, two more committees that I want. So anyway, that wraps up my report. >> I think one more committee and your next one's free, right? >> Get my punch card out. Yeah, >> that's awesome. Um, I'll give my report. Uh, May 16th and 17th, I attended the ACCBE, which is Association of California County Boards of Education. Dawn, myself, and Nicole participated. It was here. Um, Nicole and I ended up giving little welcome speeches and I should have taken a a a crash course in giving speeches from your student who graduated because I stumbled all over mine and um I am not a great public speaker. Uh, but the graduate did such an amazing job and I think
079this kid's really going to do very well. It was fun to watch. Um June 2nd I attended the MCOE graduation and awards assembly. That was so fun. I loved it because you get to see the teachers and the staff come together, principals, um families, and just recognize these kids for the hard work and community that they bring to their school sites. It was really fun to watch. >> Um what else? What else? What else? Oh, we have an upcoming lunchon where we get to >> um recognize Nicole for uh being named superintendent of the year for our region. And that is I want to say I didn't write it down but I want to say it's June 17th. >> I think I think that's next Tuesday. >> Ron Park. >> June 16th. Thank you. >>
080In Ron Park. Yeah. >> Um so we get to uh celebrate and recognize the what a great accomplishment. So um that's all I have to report. I attended last week's uh graduation and I also appreciate meeting the families and the staff. Uh I went out to the Menino High School open house and I had kind of a funny experience there. I went down into their wood shop. They have this fantastic wood shop there. And of course they have a wood shop teacher who is 410 time there and I talked to her for a while and uh it just brought up one of those things that I've always been concerned about and that is for the money she makes as a teacher there most of it goes to her buying her own healthcare and so technically
081she's sort of working there for And again, I this this problem of providing some sort of healthcare insurance for part-time employees, I think is probably a common problem throughout our county because we have these smaller school districts, you know, but and again being able I used to go down to the wood workshop and work myself there, you know, and I really believe in the value of of those programs. And but how do you keep them alive when someone's working for nothing? That's that's what occurred to me. >> Anything else to report? >> That was it. >> Well, everyone's been very busy this month. Um I I don't have anything to report this. >> Well, let's see. I went to our staff appreciation lunchon and got to see some people get awards which was awesome. I
082think we do every 5 10 15 is that we recognize every five years. Um and I remember when uh Alexi Lexi started um and I thought wow they've been here that long. >> I'm getting old. Um it was well attended. Um everybody was happy. We had cute little um games on the table. What was the Was it dad jokes? >> Dad jokes. Yeah. >> Don't know who came up with that, but I want to get that for my grandson. Um what else was Oh, I guess I can just ask what time the lunchon is on the 16th. The only time I could get >> you because we need to get the RSVP. >> Yeah, my appointment's in Roert Park. >> I know. And my appointment with Mike, the only one I could get was on
083that morning. Yeah. Like late morning. So, I don't I probably will need to be on the road by then. >> We'll email it to you. >> Okay. >> I I'll email it to all of you. >> Okay. >> Um >> All right. That concludes board member reports. Moving on to item 7.1, which is our close session. We will >> So, for close session, we're going to um we'll go offline. Um we will come back online at after close session because any action that is taken in close session has to be reported out. But um we're going to go offline for right now and um everybody that's not part of close session is leaving the room. So basically Heather and I and the board >> and Suzanne Heat. Lex. Heat. Heat. N. Hey, hey, hey. Heat.
084Heat. N. Heat. Heat. black. Hey Hey everybody. Heat. Hey, Heat. By the way, Heat. Heat. Black That's heat. Heat. Heat. Heat. Hey, Heat. Heat. Heat. N Heat. Heat. Anybody? I love you. down. Hey Happy. Heat. Heat. Heat. Hey, Heat. Hey, everybody. Heat. Hey, heat. Hey, heat. Heat. Heat. dire. Um, so from close session, the board took action to extend the KZY uh to approve the amendment to extend the KZYX um lease agreement through October 31st. Um and that was through a unanimous vote. That was the only action taken by the board. >> Okay. Moving on to item 8.1 report out from close session. We did sorry 8.2. Next board meeting is Wednesday, June 10th and 8.3 adjournment. >> Can I can I speak up? Um I think tech >> technically there's >> a fire. >>
085Okay, >> that's what we're >> there's um one other thing in close session. This is not official action, but there will uh the board also um decided to uh have a special board meeting um to immediately follow the regular board meeting on June 10th. >> Thank you. Um item 8.3, adjournment. Do we have a motion to adjurnn today's meeting? I'll move to adjurnn. >> Thank you. >> Seconded by Don. All in favor? >> I. >> Okay. >> Thank you so much. Oh, no. >> See you Wednesday. >> Is that on my way? Oh, no. >> On Sanford Branch Road. >> Received any sort of >> I'm looking at watch duty. >> Uh, Ununice Fire. >> It's on Sanford Branch Road. >> Very strong. >> I just saw Knob Hill. >> You get a notice to
086evacuate if you need. >> Yeah. I can't believe the price of these houses >> updated one minute ago. >> Yeah, it says resources on scene responding to vegetation. >> What are you reading? Is that a Nixel? >> Uh, watch duty. >> Watch duty. Okay. >> Yeah. You know, it just drives me crazy. They've got control burn happening >> at the end of June. They're going to start burning like um over at uh Nelson Vineyards. >> They've been doing the last couple weeks. Let's wait till it's super dry, right? Fourth of July weekend. >> And it was um and I and I shared that out with um charter school leaders and superintendents and um >> Heather and I attended and for Heather, of course, she knew most of the stuff that they were presenting, but I
087I think it was really good information for our charter schools and our and our directors attended. So, thank you for that. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Well, yeah. And even this house, you know, a lot of work, we're finding a lot of things that even homeowners, >> you know, and I'm having to explain to my wife like, "Hey, we're barely making the money, you know, like >> I want to fix all these things, too, but they all >> the guy was in in the house like the house." >> Oh, yeah. You guys, if you want to head right outside right outside for us. >> We're going to meet Brook right out here. stuff for now.