ROWUSD School Board Sept. 19, 2025 5:30PM Meeting

001Logan 6.0 Reconvene open session procedural business 5:30 p.m. 6.1 Call to order. The board of trustees are hereby reconvening the open session at 5:34 p.m. 6.2 roll call. Trustees identify themselves by first and last name to formally establish forum. Dana Ridley, trustee area 2. >> Scott, trustee area 4. >> Cindy Gardner, trustee area three. >> Gordon's writing, trusty area 5, writing springs. >> Dr. William Millinger, trustee area one. >> 6.3 pledge of allegiance. I'm going to call on Marley, please lead us on the pledge of allegiance if you're all right with that. Okay. Um, please go to the flag and put your hand up through your heart. Um, I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under indivisible with liberty and

002justice for all. >> 7.0 Close session report. 7.1 announcement of the reportable actions taken during close session. There were none. Point of order. Can we note for the record the time that Scott Brown came into close session for the minutes? >> You bet. It was uh So that was at 3:51. Thank you. Thank you, Cindy. 8.0 public testimony. We have none. 8.3 run teachers association CSC California school employees association CSCA representative do we have for RTA if you could step on up please guys and gals um Nick is actually our president and she is at RHS test right now dealing with getting the kiddos home with their drama practice. Um, so I am not completely is on the fly a little bit. So here we go. Um, I did have some remarks because I always

003have remarks in my head. So I have a little thing here. Good evening board members. Um, first let me sincerely thank you for your decision. Some of the stuff is the gospel according to Sydney. It's not all RT but um so first let me sincerely thank you for your decision to split our TK program at BOE into three classes. Um that action has made a real difference already. Uh with smaller class sizes um for example I have 18 right now. With smaller class sizes, teachers are able to give students the attention they need. Uh whether that's helping a child who's just beginning to write their name, guiding another as they navigate friendships, or celebrating those small moments of growth that build confidence. Um, I've already been able to talk multiple children through multiple tantrums, supervise

004and bring back the locers, deescalate violent behavior, um, engage with children at their level, plan messier activities like shaving cream, and lead various offkey musical performances, all because of our smaller class sizes, and as both a teacher and a parent, I can tell you my heart is full. Knowing that my own child and every child in TK will have more one-on-one um, support brings peace of mind that's priceless. you did the right thing and it shows and I'm very thankful. Um, but here's the truth. TK shouldn't be the exception. Smaller class class sizes are not a luxury. They are essential to student success at every grade level. Um, when there are 28, 30, or even 37 students in a room, even the most dedicated teacher cannot give every child the individual time and guidance they

005deserve. U, we end up putting out fires instead of lighting sparks. Uh if we want real equity, if we if we want stronger outcomes and if we want to retain excellent educators in this district, then smaller classes must be standard, not the special case. I urge you to build on the wise decision you made for TK and expanded across all grade levels. Um a little bit on the fly now. Um RTA is excited and hopeful for the coming school year. Um we know that everyone in this room and many outside are working to benefit our students and staff. We know that we can work together to make students, teachers, staff, and of course the almighty budget happy. Um we are excited to see the bond money start to benefit students uh student staff and uh

006facilities and we are excited to work together for the betterment of our >> she just walked in. Um anyway, uh thank you again for listening and for taking action where it matter is most our students future. You did great. >> Is there anybody here for COCA on 9.0? Oh, excuse me. We did um adjust our um our um agenda before we went into close session. So we're we've moved 11.1 to this point right now. So 11 11.0 discussion action items 11.1 superintendent vote to seat student rep from the world high school impact none. Do I have a motion? >> Bill second. >> Scott, any discussion? >> Calling for a vote. All in favor? >> I. All oppose. Motion passes unanimously. So now we will skip back to 9.0 reports and presentations. 9.1 student representative report.

007Molly Gulbrit World High School. Okay, I'm gonna go now. Sorry, I got a little excited. No, Molly, if you want to record, you're fine. Or you can go from over here on the microphone. Either way, >> take your pain. >> And I'm halfway here. I'll just >> Got it. You're gonna hit the button on there. Make sure bad vision. So, I'm going to read off here. Okay, elementary schools fun times dental screenings happened. They were great. On September 13th, all elementary sites participated in the districtwide dental screenings from students in grades K through five. Local dentists and hygienists volunteered their time to provide free dental health assessments supported by the Lake Arrowhead Rotary Club. Mountain Sunrise Rotary Club, Rotary Club of Crestland, Lake Gregory, and the HF D who supplied all necessary materials and volunteers.

008I have a friend who's in high school who's actually interested in being a dentist who got to volunteer. I know there are a couple other students who got to volunteer there, too. So, that was cool. Well, student vibes. Um, the fall fundraiser, BLE's fall PTA PTA fundraiser kicked off last week and runs for two weeks. Just after the first week, the PTA is already close to reaching its $25,000 goal. Funds raised will support assemblies, field trips, trunk retreat, and other PJ sponsored programs that directly benefit VOE students. Um, CH just wrapped up our step it up fundraiser and raised about $20,000 to benefit our school year programs. Good things book fair. Our book fair is coming to the library in 9:23 9:29th to well to 103rd. Thanks to beach we are looking for volunteers to

009help our students and then also fun parent teacher conferences. Our time is coming up fast. We are proud that many of our classes run student conferences in which the kids take responsibility for their learning and goals. We have to have a great turnout after we had many of our families attend back to school night. Love it. In the future, PTA, CH, and PTA are hosting a family movie night at 6:30 tomorrow. Oh, that's fun. Free of charge. CH's fall festival will have a literary theme this year. Love that. We're excited to participate in paint the plow and trout or tree activities. I'll have to be educated on paint the flag. I don't know what that sounds like fun. >> Okay. M PH back to school night was on August the 28th. It was paired with

010a weekl long schoolastic book fair. So much fun. Everyone loves a book fair. It's a great time. Um NHMTSS committee is hard at work to exemplify our cheers of support making sure every student gets what they need when they need it. PTA doing great things everywhere. They had an amazing glow dance party at the middle school. It was fun, a good time. Everyone's blowing. I know. I did that when I was in middle school and it was a great time. I wore a neon yellow dress. So, some fun things. This week in social studies, students are casting votes for the school site council representatives. Little democracy in action, which is fun. I think that's a newer program. I don't think that was I don't know how long it's been around, but I don't think that

011was around when I was in middle school. So, that's really cool. A big shout out to our teachers who've been absolutely crushing it in their PLC work, collaboration at its finest. And finally, MH is proud to announce that they have earned the bronze ribbon of inclusion award from East Valley SCPA, celebrating equity and belonging. Next up, we got Mountain High School. 75 75% of student population is new students for the 2025-26 school year. Um, in this our Eagles are beginning to dive into the next step in their high school careers. From juniors deciding to transfer to Rim High School or from Rim High School or Rim Virtual Academy to seniors graduating early despite students plans graduating on time is our number one priority and locking in their achievement with a lock of their own on

012our chain link fence for years to come. Love esports. That's so fun. online sports. Their video gaming is coming in October. Mountain High School is thrilled to partner with PlayBS, LUSD, and HUSD on competing professionally for scholarship opportunities for our students. Two good behavioral and attendance standing and are on track to graduate are eligible. So much fun. And we also got a gardening club and a skateboard club is ongo skateboard club for Rim. That sounds like fun. Next up, Rim Virtual Academy. Um, they had a back to school night allowing both pre-enrolled and newly enrolled families to join our school community on the spot. From free student planners, mouse pads, mouse clickers, stickers, student families enjoyed a much needed catch up among one another, reintroduced with new and familiar students and teachers, and received a

013refresher on our school system, which I think is cool. We had a back to school night, even though it's virtual. that way. I'm still like know who everyone is even though you're like all online together. They also got esports. Mr. TV, are we getting esports? >> Not yet. >> I want esports. Esports is coming in October. Like so jealous. They're also partnering with PlayBS, LUSD, and HUSD on competing professionally for scholarship opportunities for our students for Mario Kart Club, Super Smash Brothers Club, and Splatoon Club. Students in good academic and behavioral standing are eligible to join. This is not fair. Can I join? Um, students are beginning to be sorted into their learning language houses and NTSS model spin on Harry Potter and Game of Thrones during our October Mister Mixer. We'll dive more into

014how our students earn points individually in front of fun stuff going on at RBA. Let's see. Next, we got rims. But what what this one I can probably give a little more insight on. Um the CTE applied for a CTE grant for $380,000. California State University, Sanino dual enrollment process continues so RJ students can earn college credits in selecting courses. Big fan. A lot of the people I'm talking about in our AP classes, we want it right now because it's good. It's like it's like automatic credits no matter what. Like AP if you take it, you don't pass the AP test, you're so screwed. But this one you just have to pass the class. So academics, our student centered centered master schedule had minimal shuffling needed. Good things. The California college guidance initiative continues to

015be better utilized across grade levels as counselors will give 10 10th grade grad plan meetings. Thirdyear intro collab classes with co-taught classes can post 19 times in academics. Counselors are great. I love them. Our red counselors, they work so hard. RHS team highlights. Woo! Teams assembled met with priorities set. Big dreams with small teams site leadership SLT set goals and monthly PLC. I don't know what that's supposed to say. PLC EVPA training annual goals and e data data dry. The scrub squad did some campus beautifification. I love that made. It's so much fun. So much better than an acronym. MTSS supports for attendance, academics, and behavior. Then athletics funtime football was king of the mountain against Big Bear on their home turf, too. Woo! We're awesome. First ever rim girls flag football season kicked off.

016Also amazing. I know the the girl who kind of started that club going. She's everyone in it super excited. It's great. And then girls volleyball and cross country are winning. Yay. We love our sports. They're doing great. And then finally, Brim High School part two. We're going to have a college and career fair. I'm going to be there. It's going to be a fun time. We have a bunch of vendors. We're going to learn about colleges and careers. Homecoming also going to be so much fun at St. Mary's Lodge. And then, um, Scott University and college awareness night on 9:30. And then that glory picture in the the corner there, I believe, is Mr. Cheney. killing the bear before our King of the Mountain game. I think it was good luck and I think this

017might need to be a new tradition because everybody loved it. And that's all for me. Thank you guys. >> I think we have to clarify that no bear was harmed. >> We have to say yes. Thank you, Molly. 9.2 governing board members. Bill, you want to start it off? >> So, first we most of us attended a lot of the back to school nights and what great times to be on campus to see the students and the parents and staff and thanks to everyone who made all of our back to school nights exceptional. Well, and that's everyone who participated, including the PTA, especially Trustee Gardner, who provided cookies for us to give out sometimes as trustees. Thank you, Trusty Gardner. Um, I'm really looking forward hopefully to starting the bond process process uh for our

018for our district and for the future things that we want to accomplish with the infrastructure. Um I participated in dental screening at BOE where again we were actually done by noon but we saw something of 300 students there but it's exceptional volunteering that takes place all those who participate in that is really exceptional the dentists that come and give their time on Jennis as well as and what they do to make it all a very successful event and of course should know Rotary. Um, I just want to say thank you to all of our PTAs and what they do to support our students from the fundraising and all because all those events that you're raising money for, Cindy, is not for you. >> Yeah, it is. I'm going to robot. >> It's for all the

019all the students. And so, we do really appreciate that. Stephanie, I'm looking forward to the career and college fair next Thursday. Next Thursday. And so, and and you're still taking more applicants to come in, right? You only you don't have enough yet, right? only what was it 60 or something like that? 54. Oh, 54. So, see you need six more community organizations to come. Yeah, I hear Boom's going to be there. There's going to be offensive equipment there. It's going to be special. So, so looking forward to to helping you out with that again. You do an exceptional job and it's really important for our students and thank you Lord for for mentioning that, Molly. And just a a final note, you know, we're in a tough season of life, I think, in in our

020world. Um conflicts that continue, the the death of Charlie Kirk last week, just we have to be sensitive to what's going on all over and care about the people that are with us. And we never know, you never know when it might be be a goodbye. And so, let's make sure that we're always treating one another exceptionally well. Thank you for that investment. >> Go ahead. >> Sure. And uh I'll yeah some of the recent things that we've got going on with the district. Um yes, back to school nights were great to go to. Uh I'll keep it brief here. Uh we with the adopted advocacy platform that people um adopted back in June during our board retreat. Uh we're looking forward to taking that and leveraging it. The state legislative session session has ended,

021so we're going to be looking to try to get some time with our state legislators. Um and if you happen to have some time and are able u next Tuesday evening at the PAC at uh we will have or not we uh Senator Obo will have a town hall. Uh so whole community is welcome. So if you have anything we'd like to discuss, advocate for for our community or provide feedback on, uh that's a very good opportunity to go and do that. Uh we will of course uh try to do our best to be there and bring our uh adoptive advocacy platform. We'll also look for hopefully dedicated some year on that. Um I'm very much looking forward to fall this year. Um with that, I think I'll pass on. >> Thanks, Jordan. Second clarification,

022PTA funds really don't fun to I wish thinking that that's not going to happen yet. It's a dream. I want to go there and an umbrella. Um uh I want to thank everybody for a great start to the school year. Um I know that we had a meeting last month, but you know, now we're hitting we're seeing everybody hit their stride. you know, you see the climate and culture come together at each school site. We see it when we visit on back to school nights um and which are are really fun. It's really fun to the elementary school kids just crack me up the littles. They're so adorable. When we were at CH um we were handing out cookies and Bill was having great conversation and everybody was having great conversations and we were communicating

023with parents like what do you like about our history? what don't you like? And and my questions were to the kids like, "What's your favorite thing on your campus? What's your favorite thing?" And the answers are pretty adorable. Um, learning. Learning was a big big huge answer. I was like, "Does that mean you like your teacher?" Yeah, love my teacher. I'm like, "So, what else do you love?" And I got things like math. I was like, "Wow, okay, that was exciting to hear math." And then the other uh big response was my friends. They the kids really come to school. They love to be with their friends. That helps them engage and stay involved in coming to school every single day trying to whittle down that chronic absenteeism that we seem to all have an

024issue with. So it was really great to hear responses from our parents. There were lengthy conversations with some of our parents which were really engaging, more engaging than than anything prior, I think. >> Yes, we've decided to rename our time with trustees to cookies with questions. So, there you go. Um, we're excited about that. So, we're going to continue that practice of of having our table out for people, having swag, yes, bribing people with cookies to come talk to us. And I just want to put it out there, please, please come, as Jordan says, please contact us. Please, um, we are responsive. I do receive phone calls and had one yesterday with some concerns. So, we do make ourselves available. And then I'm excited for fall as well. I love all the the things that

025are coming up in October, the fall festivals at this trunk or treats, um red ribbon week, which is a very strong message. And then just another thing for the high school from high school PTSA is doing its um annual electronic recycling e-waste program. Mark Malone is so excited. I'm hearing we're getting like 20,000 pounds of e-waste from the district. Okay, Jim Zimmer elaborate. He he kind of lies sometimes to me. Just kidding. But just please come. Community members, teachers, staff, students, everybody come and bring your el Saturday, October 4th, 9th with three. This is really a community event. It's even though we get money for it, it's still necessary for the community. And with that, I'm looking for college forward to college and career as well. It's going to be fun. My two chicks are

026going to come and I'm hoping that Kira will be able to show a clip of the movie that she directed that she's finishing. It's a horror film, so we will make sure it's appropriate. No killing, promise, no blood. All right, that's it. >> Thanks, Cindy Scott. >> Yeah, thank you. Um, back to school night was great. It was just It was awesome to see. The theme seemed to be pride. Everybody was walking around and I've never seen it that exciting for the kids when they walked around and they're meeting everybody and and especially the high school. Everybody was having a good time. So, I commend all the teachers and everybody involved. And speaking of getting involved, get involved. Join the PTA. Was it PTSA? Um >> both. >> Join those. Get involved. Um, I want

027I I was told I have to especially give a shout out to the Remed Foundation. Um, that what a great organization. I mean, they have since they started donated $778,000 since 2010. Incredible. I'm gonna try and become a bronze member because that's a battle I can look for. Um, I want to also thank Molly for being here. I look forward to this whole year. Your commentary is awesome. Keep us engaged and paying attention. So, I hope you're also involved in drama. I think that's going to be a good suit for you. And you don't have to wait on Mr. King to do anything. If you want esports, if you want a skateboard club, go for it. You just have to go after it. So don't you're not beholden to him at all. >> I was

028worried. >> And this lastly a shout out shout out to all our sports. I love sports and they're off to a great start and I think we're going to have a great year. But most importantly, I'm excited about the bond and what's going to happen with the bond moving forward and all the schools are going to be represented and keeping our kids safe and it's an exciting time for that. So I look forward to that. Uh, thank you, Madam President. Shout out to Scott who was also recognized for, in our hall of fame for Rim Sport. So, really congratulations, Scott. We're proud of you. >> Thanks, y'all. Okay. Um, I've got a few things to say as well. My glasses on. Um, really enjoyed um, helping out with the dental screenings. BOE had way too

029many volunteers and I head over to Hoffnik and was very happy to help there. And there are a couple of high school students who were integral with the um screenings. One of them happens to be applying to um universities next couple months um to become a dentist. So very very cool to have that um opportunity for the students to help out and to I mean just zip through screening TK or actually kindergarten through fifth grade students um with the intention of going back and being able to receive some additional work with the students who need them all the parent permission and what an incredible program and run all by volunteers with support from the Rotaries. It's really fantastic. Cather does a great job with that. Um really enjoyed going to back to school nights. I

030think cookies are like the the the key and the the um amount of feedback. We've been doing time with trustees and other names as well for past several years and this was uh >> fun. It was fun and also there was I think a lot of the parents of course we bribed them with cookies but really encouraged them to provide criticism andor positives wanting to be able to really authentically hear what they had to say and really got some fantastic feedback and really I mean I think we talked to more parents or actually talked to more people at PAMAN that one night than we've done in all time with trustees the exception of one that I can that was at higher grounds but all I mean just it was a record if we had two

031or three folks show up and here we got some really great information. So cookies are the key. So thank you Cindy, thank you Bill for having that idea. Um it was lovely. Um and then just also thank you to um everybody in the school district for having such a strong start of the school year. Um it seems like um in a lot of ways no news is good news in terms of how things have been proceeding but at the same time there is so much work that's going on. So much fantastic things that are going on. So just thank you so much. Um then so the past couple weeks actually even for the past couple of years have been troubling more recently in recent weeks there's been things that um have really brought some things

032to my head that I do want to mention how incredibly important education is and this day and age and education not necessarily filling empty vessels with knowledge but more so really encouraging our students to research and think and to challenge each other with provocative questions and to listen. Right now, I'm very concerned about society and our lack of debate, our lack of civil discourse and what's prompt action on whatever side of the aisle you want to look at in terms of um really horrific um behavior. And I think one of the things that maybe our society is not well equipped to take right now is thoughts and ideas that may be different from their own. Um there's a lot of information out there whether it's AI generated or reality and and edited or fullon reality

033that is unedited. And I'm very worried that folks are taking bits if not versions of whatever situations that might be occurring and not digging deeper, not looking further, taking a people's word for it, who might have an aim or might be wanting to get folks to think a certain way. And I think education is key right now more than ever. We need to get to authentic sources and teach our kids to get to authentic sources and really learn the truth of what's been happening, whether it's painful or not. Um, it's scary and we are, if we don't have an educated population, we are vulnerable to propaganda that folks on any side of the aisles of any kind of political beliefs or beliefs in general might be using to to try and propagate ideas that might

034be doing harm and that scares me. So, it's a plea for me to administrators, to educators, anybody involved with educating our youth and also educating each other to be open-minded, to listen, and to do our homework and encourage others to do their homework to really get to authentic sources and learn what's really going on. So, I'm not trying to propose any one direction. It's just seek their absolute truth, get to the basics. So, um I just wanted to mention that. I don't know how much that's going to be heard, but it's my plea to you. Um, with that, I'm going to end my comments and move on to 9.3 Superintendent Dr. Paul Savier. >> Good evening, everybody. Um, just a couple of things I want to highlight. One is, um, we have a district-wide strategic

035plan and I want to share kind of the process. Last year, we started partnering with our with our community, with our parents, with our staff, board of education, and the San Bernardino County Superintendent of Schools Office to really develop a plan in terms of based on the needs of our district and to listen to families, listen to the community about what are the things that we need to address in terms of improvement. And what we created was a continuous improvement document and that is the strategic plan. I wanted to share the highlights of that. It's really based on four broad LCAP goals, student learning, safe and positive climate, engaged family and community, and fiscal accountability and facilities. That document has been really a a part of how we do our work recently looking at the

036work that needs to be done in your student learning. And uh one of the each year we'll update that plan to get feedback from the community. However, student learning is a piece that we really are going to focus on this year to really drive our improvement as measured by state assessments. And one of the things that we're looking at is and I want to share that I was on I was applying on the wall today and back of the room observing uh teacher teams from all the district throughout the district looking at an assessment platform because that assessment platform is going to give us back some data we need to be able to provide and intervene and support students when they're not successful. And the what I just was so proud of the effort by

037all the teachers who gave the feedback really honest feedback. It was like an inquisition actually to for some of those presenters. We looked at three platforms and some really really outstanding questions that came from our teaching staff. Um I also want to highlight the work uh of of you know putting that together. Uh Jennifer Whiteside, our director of education, did a phenomena team did an outstanding job putting together that that assessment, you know, review and I I just was thoroughly impressed with the teachers, the administrators in the room, sincerely want to get this right for the district and picked a platform that's going to meet the needs of our students. I also want to highlight on student learning and that's today. I know the RIMAD Foundation and they're going to be recognizing them for you

038know obviously our K12 um state STEM program in UC Davis and and and and funding to support us in that area. That's really going to drive what we do now. Kids are learning differently now and we need to adjust with, you know, robotics and hands-on experience. um but they still do need the essentials and this kind of provide both for students. So want to commend you for for our partnership. And lastly, I want to commend Miss Havlin for uh the facilities at board study session and bringing together the community on trying to decide where our priorities are as a district. And I really felt that um that was extremely well done. an hour and a half. I might have been to a board meeting that fast here. [Music] >> So, uh it was uh and

039arriving on our our priorities for facilities. It was extremely well done process and I want to commend as Hamilton and her effort and the team for putting that together. With that, I just also want to make sure that I acknowledge the work that's been done to have a terrific start to the school year. Extremely good start. I've heard nothing but positive things. Well, I won't say nothing, but I overall I did the feedback. I tended the back to school night. Thank you to LA. I had to park them only three blocks away, you know, but that was a good thing. That was a good thing. And uh it was well attended by our community. the positive comments I heard from our families was was very very so thank you for that. >> Thank you Dr.

040Saviano. 9.4 for educational services from the world educational fund foundation presentation of checks. UC Davis C staff. >> Where do we push the button? >> Okay. Thank you. We like your guidance, your direction. Um we are so thrilled to be a part and we thank school board member Craft Mr. Craft >> and we really s support what you said Dr. Siano is supporting the educational programs for our enhance the learning of our students. Our foundation is filled with dedicated people who support your concepts of enhancing learning experience. And what we do is we spend a great deal of time getting together to support those concepts. But it was interesting when we went to each of the back to school evenings, they were dynamic and was as we engaged the parents, many of them had no

041clue that RIMED had supported the educational programs in their particular school. We shared that we had provided over $780,000 to our school district and they looked at us like, "Are you sure that of that number?" And uh we had a print out that said what we had donated to their particular school the previous year. And they were surprised, they were shocked. And some of them were hesitant to accept what we were saying. We did get volunteers who said, "Well, send me more information. I'm interested in learning about what you guys do." We're not here to help buy paint or carpet. It's all about our students. And you, young lady, are a wonderful representation of what we've got in our schools. And I want to thank you for your expressing yourself and your expertise. You're outstanding.

042Just wonderful. >> Thank you. >> Today is speaking of Molly, our student. >> Oh, yes. I'm sorry, Molly. I mean, there are several young ladies, young women there. And um you all are wonderful and terrific. Molly, you're extremely outstanding. >> Thank you. >> Um so we're here in support of the UC Davis STEM project that by having that work done and presented it to us, Jennifer, we understand the value of that enhancing the learning of our students. So, we just had a few dollars around uh 48,000 that Jennifer thought would be beneficial for our students learning involvement in this project and the involvement of the educators who are going to ensure this project will work for our students. As we do this, we do it with genuine pride. We are proud of the work that

043our district does. We're darn proud of the work our rim ad does. And if any of you have any interest, just give us a call and we're available to answer most of your questions. If not, we'll call Molly and get the rest of the answers. Um, it's interesting to hear about the college and career days. That is an outstanding opportunity for our students to know that there are many opportunities available to them and we are supportive of that as well. We have given scholarships to students who are in the AVID program and that's because AVID is part of the programs that we support. We want to thank you and Have a wonderful year. Just an FYI, Cindy used to be on our board. Yeah. She went to the big I said she will be >>

044that are behind me. Is there are behind me? >> You're going to stand my back. Yeah. >> Okay. >> Thank you. >> You want me to help you with that? >> Thank you. >> Okay. 9:25 educational services presentation of school highlights at Lake Arrowhead Elementary. Good evening board, cabinet, audience, YouTube audience. >> Thank you for having me. I get to brag about my little people. Trying my best not to cry. >> I know. I can't. >> Thank you, lovely assistant. Did you guys check out our boots for >> Thank you. >> So, did you say we have the same ones? We have matching boots. >> I can't wait to see your face when you see which ones I have on. Oh, we have matching. >> Can't wait to see your face when you see I

045know. All right. So, as I said, I'm the proud principal of Lake Arrowhead Elementary. I am an alumnest of Lakehead Elementary School. I went there from kindergarten to sixth grade. MPH graduate of the world. Uh cabinet got to hear me sing vertical almond water. No, I won't do it again right now. Maybe another time. Um, tonight we're talking about elementary school. Maybe not. You think there's I need them all. So, I wanted to highlight yet again our seven habits and kind of talk about how they match up with our core beliefs here in the district. So, I get to cheat a little bit because this is something that we already do. So, I get to say to my staff, our core beliefs are not anything we haven't been doing for years. We just call them

046something a little bit different. So impactful actions align with our habit six and seven are synergize and sharpen the saw. Align actions align with habit four and five. Seek first to understand then to be understood and think win-win. And habits three, two, and one align with future focus. Be proactive. Begin with the end in mind and put first things first. So when we talk about core beliefs, we kind of synergize and add those together and we get to say that we have been doing those things for a couple years before we named them. So, we continue to do that and we have so many student leaders now. They're going to be teaching the classes before they know it. So, our site goals aligned with the LCAP are increase student achievement, facilitate safe schools and positive

047climate, and engage family and community. I'm going to go over those a little bit more in detail, but those just that's a quick summary of some of our practices that we incorporate at LE and we have a slide for each one of those. So, goal one, I know it's meaty. I won't read all of it to you guys, but we have a big focus on academics. Our three sections of leader and me are culture, academics, and leadership. So, we focus big on academics, student goals. We have a big push with uh research-based literacy at Lee. We started science of reading years ago. We incorporated Orton Gillingham. My staff is awesome. And when Orton Gillingham was offered in both comprehensive and morphology, they jumped on the opportunity. It was an optional training and we had a

048lot of people that way and got trained in the first round and are excited to be trained whenever the opportunity presents itself. the next round instructional aids were trained and so we're I'm proud that that was optional. It was a five-day training and a lot of my staff participated. Some of them participated in both so they have the full gamut of Oregon Gillingham and we continue our collaboration process through PLC. We have had really good representation at the guaranteed and viable curriculum, the GBC days that the TOSAs and ED services have put on and that has helped us immensely and I've kind of seen it in our I Ready data. You guys will see that in a little bit. And we incorporated our classified staff into our leader and me. So they're now part of

049our action teams. So they have a say in our culture, our academics, and our leadership. They have a voice now on our decisions that we make at the school site. And we have individual, class, and schoolwide wigs. We call them their wildly important goals. We call them wigs. So we have a math focus and an ELA focus. And we have the students create their personal wigs. We have class ones. And we have mostly met last year our wigs for both ELA and math. Thank you. Okay. Our goal two, facilitating safe schools. We have the student leadership focus that creates buyin. So we have positive behavior through that. The kids have a lot of say in what happens at the school site. What do you guys want to do for incentives? We have a cubby coupon

050incentives. I have done ninja training that they have bought into which is they can't touch the lasers. They're made of um string and they get to come play with me. We do pizza parties. We do lunch with the principal. We do extra PE. We have done a bunch of incentives, but they come up with what they want to do. They let me know what would be fun for them if that's important to them. Uh we have restorative practices such as ink sheets and a peace path. The peace path is very cute. I has little Rob made it there for us at Rim. And uh it makes the kids cry. and all I do is facilitate how we problem solve and how we get along. They talk about how they made each other feel and at

051the very end they end with a fist bump, a hug or high five and they go on their merry way or we start all over again. That has really helped with some of our older kiddos that get their feelings hurt and struggle to get along when they're going through some changes in fourth and fifth grade. Uh we have a safety team who conducts our drills and safety checks every month, social stories and social emotional curriculum. Um our bottom picture there is a guest reader. Her name is Heather Avis. She is actually ready to graduate and she is focused on inclusion. She has written three amazing books. She came and read to all of our classes. We had the Inland Empire Therapy Dogs that came to sit with some of our struggling readers and the kids

052came and read to the dogs. That was amazing. And we have student and class mission statements. Again, a lot of that studentled leadership. Something I'm really proud of is our community involvement. We've had a lot more community involvement over the years. Last year, we celebrated 94 volunteers at our volunteer breakfast. It was a lot of people. I stayed up really late making breakfast casserles the night before to feed and celebrate our amazing volunteers. We had a meet the masters trainer and we had meet the masters volunteers for every classroom last year. So every classroom got to participate in that. We have arrowhead school of dance that has come. We have good relationships with Grand Family Services, our um Grand Ed Foundation, Mountain Counseling and Training, Heart and Lives. We see a lot of them on

053our campuses and I have good relationships with them. They're serving our community and they're serving our kids and we've seen some positive behavior outcomes having them on campus. Um we've been to the Mountain History Museum and the Arboritums, um Snow Valley with our ski trips. And another thing to be proud of is our student led conferences. So typically our third through fifth grade, they come with their leadership portfolios and they lead the conferences with their parents, which is amazing. It creates real responsibility with the students to be proud of their learning and to take control of their California school dashboard. You know, we always have to put this in there. Um, this is 2024. We reduced our chronic absenteeism and our suspension rate through leader and me and positive behavior intervention. English learner progress. That

054one is a work in progress. But when we get to our positives, you guys will be really excited about uh English language arts and math according to CASP. Still still a work in progress, but we have seen some positive um academic success through I Ready. So I hope that the CASP data mirrors that. We'll see in the middle of November that hopefully that's how it happened. Some of our positives and this is the part where I try not to cry. We had 48 EL students last year and 25% of the students were classified. So that's our ELA did a phenomenal job. Our teachers are doing designated EL. They're really making sure that they're hitting those four things with reading, writing, speaking, and listening. And I was just so proud as I was going through the

055ELPAC assessment results and I kept seeing four four and I was just so so proud of our kids because it is a really hard assessment and to be able to reclassify with all the criteria is challenging for our kiddos and I'm just very very proud of them. um I Ready data. I'm sorry, this is a it's almost makes me cry. Our I Ready data. I looked at um I look at our beginning diagnostic and our end diagnostic and we had a huge difference from 323 kids at the beginning of last year, one or two grade levels behind and at the end we had 84 students and that was in months. So, we had a big it was a big shrink of those red and orange kiddos and it's just we're really proud of all of

056the work that our teachers have been doing and all of our staff. I mean, we just have an amazing staff and this is the first year that I've started with a full certificate of staff. It was very exciting. And then in ELA, we started with 252 kids one to two years behind and then we ended the year with 72. And we just have this steady pool of volunteers. We have ELAC parents that are participating in DAC in our LCAP meetings and we have a school site council that continues to grow and we have had forum every meeting. So that's that's definitely a positive and we already have 30 volunteers that have been trained and are ready to go. So we we're bringing them all in. They're they're excited to be there and participate. >> I

057was trained. >> You were trained? Yes, >> I was. Yes. She's she's on the list. So, I want to take a look at our one of our core beliefs, our line actions. So, like I said, we work really really hard to give every student what they need. This is a picture of some of our moderate to severe SDC students. They're participating in our general education recess and lunch times. And our kids are all together. They're all playing together. So, this just warms my heart because it shows that we're really working on those inclusive practices and our kids don't see that they're all different from each other. They're just all having a great time playing together. So, we work really hard to give the kids the support that they need. We listen to the community through

058our measurable results assessment through Vader and me and our Kelvin and we make adjustments as needed to get the kids what they need, to get the staff what they need. and the staff gets to say if they feel like their the culture is being positively impacted or negatively and we make adjustments as a team. So we um believe every child deserves an adult who sees their potential and believes in them and everyone at LE has genius. All of those kids in that picture, all of our staff members. So and here's my kids preparing. >> Good morning leaders. We are Piper and Gavin from Mrs. Wilson's fifth grade class. >> Our quote for the week is Elena. Our quote for the week is, "If you take responsibility for yourself, you will develop a hunger to accomplish

059your dreams." >> They do this every week. >> We are focusing on habit one this week. Habit one, be proactive. I am a responsible person. I take initiative. I choose my actions, attitude, and moods. I do not blame others for my wrong actions. I do the right thing without being asked, even when no one is looking. >> Thank you, Piper and Gavin. >> For lunch this week, Heidi and Erica are serving on Monday some sandwiches, nachos, and mini cheeseburgers. On Tuesday, popcorn. >> You can stop here of illusion. Chef Salad on Wednesday, chicken nuggets and cheese pizza. Thursday, >> the entire school has this cute thing where they say I pledge of allegiance and I I think it's the cutest thing that little I pledge of allegiance. They haven't taken the of out and we

060do Friday flag every Friday. We get together as a school and it hasn't changed and I kind of don't want it to. I think it's the cutest thing. So when they further into the video, they do that because the students watch that every morning and they do the pledge of allegiance and every single student says, "I pledge of allegiance." So thank you so much for letting me brag about my school, my students, my staff. We are very proud of the work. I am very proud. I'm I'm just one person. I'm part of the team. I'm very proud of the work that we do and our students and their achievement. And I think we're just going to continue to achieve all of those goals. Love that you went to school there for one. How many of

061your staff actually went to school? >> Oh gosh. Okay. So, I know Lori Johnson was a student there. Um Alicia, I don't think she went to LE. I think she went to Grand View. Alicia and I worked together at Grand View years and years ago. So, we all just like come back together. I think it's >> Alisa and Nita. >> Alisa Nita. Yes. Um, Margaret is from New York. I'm trying to go down my hallway. Cindy Parker has just been like at the district in the schools for so many years that I don't know if she was a student here or she was a teacher here when I was a student. She was um trying to go down my hallways. >> Yeah, I'll have to to see who's >> any other questions? I I do

062have um going back to the um achievements um mentioned phenomenally that it was like somewhere around 370 students were um um couple years behind grade level one by the end of the year but the threequarters of them are are no longer. Have you done that baseline yet for this school year? Are you seeing also lower numbers at this point to start out with as far as >> Yeah. And it's it's typical for the I Ready assessment for us to see that summer slide. And the I Ready is based on the full year of skip. So they test a little bit lower at the beginning of the year even then they really are able to achieve. But it's just it's an it's a testament to the teachers are teaching those standards and they're really getting through

063a whole lot through the school year. Even with how many days did we miss last year? 18 19 you know it's a 10% of our school year that we lose and there's still we're still seeing a lot of achievement and growth. >> All right. Thank you. Six business services presentation on the sale of Gon. >> Hi, I would like to welcome up to the front though the microphone's already on Luc and Associates. So, thank you for being here and traveling up the mountain today. Jason has um spoke for many years off and on in our district um I think even when we refinanced our bonds and with um going out for measure A. So he's had a lot of history um as uh where you and Adam who's met not in person many times soon.

064So we have a handout um Jason might be on I don't want to take credit and I'm going to go ahead and give you the mic. >> Great. Thank you for that introduction Miss Hland and good evening board members. It's a pleasure to be here. I'll be giving a presentation on the district's potential issuance of general obligation bonds and later tonight in the agenda, we will be asking the board to consider a the adoption of a resolution that allows finance team to go out to sell bonds later this month. And so on slide two, I'll start with a quick update on the municipal market and where interest rates are. And so for conventional loans like a home mortgage or a commercial loan, your interest rate normally is tied to the 10ear treasury rate. When we

065sell municipal bonds for school districts, we track a different index called municipal market debt. That's acronym is NMD. And so on the bottom left chart of this slide shows the historical ranges of the MMD rates for the last 20 years and all the years all the way from years 1 through 30. So for context during COVID when rates were at their all-time historical lows, you could borrow for 30 years at about a 1.2%. crazy to think about in today's times, but that was how low it was back then. But it also has been as high as 6% in the last 20 years. You see the the high range of that 30-year bar. The horizontal green line is where the yield curve is as of September 8th. And so as of today, if you went out

066to borrow for one year, you probably get about 2.15%. If you borrow out for 30 years, you probably get 4.32%. Since September 8th, however, that 30-year rate has gone down for the benefit of your taxpayers, for the benefit of your district. It's currently at about 4.21%. Doesn't sound like a huge difference, only about 0.12. When we're talking about $18 million, that results in hundreds of thousands of interests that is safe for your taxpayers. So, it's definitely a improved market than where we've been in the past months, even past few weeks. The chart on the right shows where the Federal Open Market Committee is doing. And you may have heard that yesterday the Federal Reserve lowered the federal funds rate by 25 basis points and potentially two more rate cuts in October and December. And that's

067all a result really of two things. The lackluster jobs report that was in August. There is concern about the labor economy weakening. And so um one thing the Fed does, one of their mandates is to have maximum employment. And so to do that is to lower the rates that would in that would spur business economic activity. And then the other sign is that um there's a lot of weakness. Again, I mentioned the labor markets and also the Fed is focusing on growing the strength of the labor market. They also have tackle inflation. That's their second mandate, having stable prices. But right now, their their main mandate is really focusing on improving the jobs numbers. And so because of that expectation of lower rates, rates have already started to come down in the past few weeks

068um to the benefit again of your taxpayers. So again, really since when we compare rates for from now to the beginning of summer, it's the lowest they've been in that time. On slide three shows your district's historical assessed valuation since 2002. And assessed value is the taxable value in your district. So it's different than the market value you might see at your home on real on realtor or solo. So assessed value is what determines how much these bonds cost for taxpayers each year. And so the higher growth that we see in this chart on the left each year, that's better for your district because um every time we sell bonds, we assume the payments grow at a certain clip. And so at your when your assessed value grows above what we project, that results in

069lower cost to your taxpayers, which we all want to see. And so you see in the last 5 to 10 years, you've averaged north of four to almost 9% in certain years. When you go back to the last 20 years, a pretty big long historical time frame, you're averaging well north of 4%. For this measure and all of your previous funds, we've assumed we're going to half percent growth. So again, conser we want to be conservative. So we outperform our projections, meaning lower rates for your taxpayers. On slide four shows the district's outstanding bonds that are currently being repaid, and they total just over $15 million. And what's shown on the right are what's known as call dates. And these are dates where you have the option as as an issuer to refinance for lower

070rates. Um this is a little different than as a homeowner, you kind of have an option to go out for a new 30-year rate. With municipal bonds, you you're locked out for a period of 10 years and then once that 10 years is up, you are able to refinance. And so in 2017, when I was at your board about eight years ago, we did refinance some prior bonds. Those bonds again are coming up to be refinanced in 2027. So if interest rates are cooperative in about two years time, you'll likely see myself or my boss before you asking to consider refinancing that bond. And so we're continuously monitoring that. But 2027 is the earliest time we are able to refinance with those bonds. On slide five shows the financing plan for the 18 million of

071bonds that will come from measure E. And as background, measure E was approved by voters last November for a total of 71 million. Very strong voter support at 60.93%. At this day and age, getting anywhere above 60% is considered very strong. Um, a lot of districts on election night, we're kind of biting our fingernails. They're right at that 55% threshold. To get nearly 61% is really a signal of the strong support your community has shown. And so, just kudos to the community on coming out strong for that. Um, on the top right chart shows the projected tax rates of what they would look like once these series A bonds are sold. You notice that we don't go the full $27 rate to the whole. That's because we're doing a phase issuance program. We're only selling

072about $18 million of the total 71 million that was approved. And we're doing so we're doing that in phases because we need to have room for the second, the third, the fourth series of bonds. That's shown in the projection right below that where we show the full projection. And so um assuming three and a half% growth again you would likely be able to access the full 71 million by year 2033. Your this S value has outperforms this 3 and a half% projection every year most in most cases. So in all likelihood you'll you'll be able to access the 71 million on an earlier time frame than what we're showing here now. And again again this is a flexible schedule. If you need a little bit more in 2027 as opposed to 17 million, we can

073we can tweak this as as you sell on us in the future. No problem. And again, as a unified district, you are legally allowed to go up to $60. However, you are very cognizant of your community's responses and concerns about taxes. And so, you honor your tax rate commitment at $27 per 100,000. So it's our it's our job as your financial advisor to make sure your tax rates each year don't exceed that 27 each year just for this measure B. So in closing we have our upcoming upcoming steps for the transaction and last week we did some credit rating activities. We were able to maintain your strong A+ credit ratings earlier this week and then tonight we're here before you to ask for the board's considerations to allow the district to price bonds later this

074month. And um October 1st is when we're hoping to lock in your rates and price those bonds. And approximately two weeks later on October 15th is when the district would actually receive those building fund projects project funds at public. So you'd be able to spend your project dollars at that point. >> So yeah, that completes my presentation and I appreciate being here and happy happy to address any questions. >> I have uh one question. Can you explain to me a little bit more on the refinancing of the bonds? Um, because I'm just coming from layman's term as far as like a house refinance where you're paying principal at the end and paying interest at the beginning and does that create a situation where you end up in the long term paying more interest. So that's

075a great question. So you get the same similar concept where you can refinance to lower your payments. What a how a home mortgage sometimes work is you go out for a brand new 30-year rate and you have just a lower annual payment but you pay a longer term. With municipal bonds, you are stuck to the original term. And so these 2017 geo refunding bonds, they only went out to 2038 because that was the original length of the of the two probably 2007 bonds that were sold. And so when we refinance hopefully in 2027, we are not allowed to refinance out for 30 years. we have to maintain a 20 308 fund maturity. So that helps ensure that you make you have you have to when you do refinancing you have to make sure that the

076savings are able to be achieved on that same time frame. You can't have fudge the numbers and show a lower annual pay by switching it. >> Question you had mentioned that we were able to maintain an A+ rating. Uh who provides that rating? So we bought that from standard and course. So you probably heard of them. Movies is another big one, but historically standard reports. They're one of the three main agencies that Jordan um the full report is attached to your Friday update for growth. Is that yesterday? >> Awesome. >> And A+ is the highest. >> So A+ is actually not the highest. It's u considered I think the fifth highest in general, but overall it's it's kind of the most common rating for school districts to see. Yeah. When you see a lot of

077the credit characteristics you see at higher rated are community funded basic aid. They kind of have partial taxes. Sometimes a lot of Northern California districts have that. So other other districts that have kind of other alternative revenue sources in Senate, but still A+ is still considered a very high investment. And what does that rating do to us for our thoughts? >> So, um, an A+ rating, I guess, if you could kind of equival it to a FICO score score kind of like in the high 600s, you're getting a pretty fair rate. If you were in like a double A category, AAA plus category, you would be in the 800 FICO score. You'd be getting absolute waste. But again, um, you're getting still very competitive rates still. And again, we're selling school district general obligation bonds.

078These are considered the very highest safest municipal type of credit because the repayment of these bonds are guaranteed by the county treasur's office. It's not a revenue bond where there's a chance the municipality could go bankrupt in some cases. If these bonds, if your tax base um does suffer, the treasur tax collector is forced to levy at whatever rate is necessary. So, it's our job to be conservative in our projections to make sure that rate doesn't get too high. But again, these bonds are ultimately guaranteed by county treasur, which makes insp um tax rate and also having um um already have bonds that are just recently issued. So, they're are showing up already on tax bill. So, is that cap $27 specifically for our measure B or is that And so, what we have left

079over is not included in that. >> Yes, that's correct. Um, you do have bonds that standing to a 2008 measure and they've traditionally cost about 13 to$15 per 100,000 and so likely when tax bills go out this October with few weeks time they will see um two probably two lines one for the 2008 measure and one for this new 2024 measure it should come out to around $42 per you have 15 existing $60 that we were talking about earlier you'll be back combined amount in terms of what we consider it cap community. >> So the $60 was just the reference of how high you could legally go if you if you wish to, but actually it's very um it's very prudent of you to have two bonds costing you less than what and a unified

080can legally charge on. So you've done a lot with a little question. Thank you so much. >> Thank you very much. Thank you. 9.7 business services presentation of the unaudited actuals and the enrollment report. Jenny Hley, chief business official. [Music] >> Yeah, I'll try not to, right? Okay, thank you very much for um for having us tonight of course and tonight we are presenting the report of enrollment in our unodudited actuals. Um later on in the agenda, we have an action item to approve the unodit unudited actuals and the report in its entirety was attached to your agenda but also in your board um in your board u folders um online and then you can feel free to as you read it if you haven't done so already um earmark some questions, call me, come

081by or shoot me an email. happy to explain some of the um minutia in the reporting in the report if you'd like. I've summarized some of the data and a lot of this information you already know um and it'll just be review for you but we'll you know highlight a couple different pages. Okay, we've had a successful close to um our fiscal year 2425. We submitted our financials and the supporting documents ahead of schedule to the county office and they're probably reviewing them as we speak. And I kind of why are we here? Um, you know, we will talk about enrollment. We are we'll talk about the unedited actuals. This is actual revenue and expenditures, not budgeted. And of course, these need to be board approved by September 15th of each year. Although our county

082office has given us permission to um have it within so many days as long as we um let them know because they know not all boards can have a board meeting um necessarily sometimes before that. Um they used to be not as flexible with that number. we that comes more into play in March and in December um when we have some board legal action with um our our board and we have to have meet other timelines and they're willing to work with districts. So Ed code yes the um September 15th but we're not late because we have that permission. So the fiscal practices and protocols, we've had this in I think almost every uh slide is how we align the budget with the LTAP or the LCAP with the budget depending on how we want

083to report that. And then um you know our process throughout the year I well I won't leave these um verbatim. Okay. We do have a budget reporting cycle from the first being July 1 through June 30th. where we're at is we're here in the unodudited actuals in September. We will now the books are closed. We'll be revising um and we have been revising the current year budget and um and it will gear up towards the second interim reporting um in December. We'll look forward to the governor's the year is going to go by so fast because January will be here and then we'll look for the governor's um proposed budget for the next fiscal year. Second interim may revise and we will just continue the cycle over again. Okay. Um what what are the unodudited

084actuals? They're our final report of of actual revenues and actual expenditures with some supplemental data. Why are they called unodudited is because we haven't audited them yet by our independent auditors. Our independent auditors usually come in um in the spring um summer work sometimes in in person and sometimes just remotely and then in the fall they issue the audit report in December. Most years they come in January and report their findings. So our independent auditors will be here next week and with um the advancement I'm just going to say in um web- based computer program and remote work for most you know a lot of private industry we have been really working continuously on and off really since last year um and supplying um the audit. So we, you know, uploading reports as they're done.

085We're sending them instead of, you know, when I was an auditor, it would be audit week and you'd be here with piles and piles and and you know, 10hour days for five days at a at a um corporate office or something. So right now it's it's not that they're already working on it. um and they won't even probably use um every day we have them scheduled for in person next week because they'll be doing so much remotely with our script. But there's some things that just aren't that you aren't able to do um on a behind the computer screen and and reports and digging through files. So, we have a wonderful relationship with our auditors and um they will just cooperate. um we don't always agree and they'll find something maybe or maybe not and

086we'll work through it. Wanted to just give a touch base on um our enrollment. The highlighted in yellow is because it's still projected. These are seabeds enrollment. Seabeds is a census day in October. We know that it hasn't happened yet. So therefore 2526 is still a projection. We're refining that um at kind of as we speak with our enrollment. We are you know you can see that the projections here um in our seeds were more of a declining projection still. We're seeing enrollment level off. We are already revising our enrollment and corresponding revenue and staffing projections based on that. We're not done. That's um we had a lot of changes this year. You saw Mr. Hansen's report on just the personnel activity. I think they had 72 changes or hires over the summer that kind

087of trickles down next into business with getting these folks um insured um who might change classifications there April and then the corresponding budget um adjustments needed if there wasn't something that was necessarily budgeted in May or June. So, we're working through that and we will have u probably um updates through Friday updates on what our enrollment and um correlated staffing is and then we will check out you know larger report excuse me in December with the second I mean first is CK included in these uh these >> yes >> um do projections then case baseball take into consideration our TK numbers like in terms yes okay yes so one we are we have seen growth in TK and we've seen growth in kinder and we've seen relatively um uh small growth in kinder first so

088seeing those families who definitely stayed and then possibly families who didn't either utilize our kindergarten or skipped kindergarten or use a different source. So, you know, kind of looking at that um grade level to grade level preschool, special ed preschool, which is part of REM's program is not included in these levers because they we do not obtain ADA for them. That's the one at the LE. And of course, the preschool that we're um piloting at BOE um is a Head Start program that we're involved in. So, it's not in our area system for attendance and staffing ratios. Just a quick question. Um to be considered a small district that's under 2500 ADA. >> So this was our enrollment and duplicated count. Um it is projections we we ran enrollment today. We're really about 28.95 28.94

089depending on on the day. um inbox grading one or two students every day and we're still working through um the student database on getting kids coded correctly and um just making sure we report them and any duplicates um between two schools maybe they transferred schools getting that worked out. So on 95 when I was working on this uh presentation, we were at 28.93. So but still um taking a little bit of time to sort through and make sure it's as clean as we can get. This is our history of our LCFS by object code. And what I wanted to point out here, of course, 2425 is actual 2526 was at a point in time. we know that and some subsequent years will change. But one of the things I want to point out is the

090year-over-year change in total dollars versus what the total was. So you can see going into 2425, we had a yearto-year change in total dollars received of a negative 1.61% but the cola we received from the state is 1 was 1.07 7 and sometimes um that's the way polo works. It's an increase on an amount per student, not an increase to your total funds. So looking at what dollar that polar represents versus what just um applied to your whole So the focus really needs to be on the year-to-year change in dollars, not necessarily a percentage. We know 2526 will change when we um reconcile enrollment and project new staffing and also too projecting ADA because we're funded at an ADA in April. So we will even with if you feel good about our enrollment we have

091nine months to get through to to look at our ADA too until it's final. >> You're mentioning the ADA. Um, last year we had a rather late start in turmoil or fires in the school year with Saturday school. Are we planning on starting Saturday schools earlier this year? >> Believe it's already um taken off and scheduled and um dates are there this Saturday. Next Saturday. Yeah, I think there's some excitement. I need to be maybe a little more animated with Molly over there. blue. So, um but Saturday school, right? Um so, at 2526 though, you can see we know this number will change of course. Um but the uh to 2.3, but our our dollar amount increase is 2.19. So, just paying attention to that dollar is not necessarily a percentage. And this is more

092for your information. What makes up LCA death in total? this 2425 data of our total 36 million and change or just under 37 million. We have a base grant. We have rates span adjustments that are applied to that um base grant supplemental concentration grant. We have things like um added home to school transportation and an added dollar amount to support the um aids and the lower class sizes in TK. So that's what makes up and the supplemental concentration expenditures are the expenditures that must be identified in the LCAP as well at minimum more can be included in the LCAP of course but at minimum and that's one of the things that as we're building the as Jen's building the LCAP you know we're working together on is identifying those exact elements picture of the same

093data a history of our cola and our projected cola. Your information and the graph is just our total unrestricted and restricted 2425 um expenditures for the entire district. This is fund one only. We had some expenditures and other funds like fund 13 which is our cafeteria fund and fund 40 which had the proceeds from the sale of blue jay which we were able to um utilize those dollars for the run by roofing. So this is fund one only. The next couple of slides is just the um five major category. What made up our actual 2425 data from revenue, federal revenue or things like IDA, special ed, title one, CSI, things like that. Um local revenue would be um like the the Sula dollars, interest, um u state would be things like restricted lottery and then

094our major categories and then percent of the total expenditure for You can see that um on the unrestricted side, we had a deficit. We we deficit spent by $799,000, almost $800,000. And that's a lot lower than we have been. But there's two components I just wanted to highlight. Number one, we swept and maximize and maximize a lot of restricted onetime dollars last year because we had funds at work expiring. And I have a a slide to talk about that. Another item too that sways that number, it's really about um 1.2 in deficit spending is at the end of the year we have to do kind of a book entry only. Okay. Part of a Gatsby rule. Some of you are familiar with Gatsby's. That's a a governmental accounting standards board and they issue rules and

095laws for accounting purposes. Um, and one of the newer, it's not brand new, but one of the newer um, rules under this new Gazsby is um, that we have to book our fair market value of our cash in the county treasury. Okay. So, um, it's really an artificial revenue number. This year it was about 350,000. So, there's some artificial revenue without the corresponding um, expenditures in that. and we don't budget for that. It's just something that we have to book and then it gets reversed the next time. So, I um wanted to just that books a little bit more positive, but for two reasons. because of the sweeping of the one-time funds and maximizing some restricted dollars um beyond what we've been able to or chose to in the past and um that kind of

096artificial entry that we have to do just because it's the laws and and to note about this I'm not an expert at all but from just listening around the room when I'm in our county offices is that our county treasury um for Sanino County does do very Well, and they um on their their return floor investments. I haven't verified that myself by going to the um reports, but being told that I I don't. Okay. So, our ending fund balance after our reserves um just over 13 or just under 14 million. And of that though when I subtract the fair market value and the cash 13 would be a more accurate number. >> Just out of curiosity what are the second and third columns. >> Oh there's no title unrestricted restricted and vote. >> Oh >>

097my apologies for missing on that title. The first one's unrestricted unrestricted untold. Y >> for me it's just an Excel spreadsheet that I cut and paste on each side. So apologize for that. >> And then of that 133, these are the um components by category. Some of them have been in our reserves for many many many years. Um, and some of them are new and some of them will have some future decisions to make and may or not may not stay reserved depending on future decisions by the board. Um but until we have those decided um discussions right now they're they're being preserved and with the um with the unaudited actuals although I start working on them um during this time we don't submit multi-year projections with um with unedited actuals to the county it's

098it's a single it's a single year >> so the total here about 13 million as far as the breakdown the column of it comes to what maybe about half of that amount is the other half not just what what category is the other half of that those monies in >> are you on this page >> I'm on the um the um the um balance yes >> that page >> yes that page >> okay so are you looking for what makes up the um >> so if you take a look at the column of numbers 1.6 6 million I'll pay you know and the 110,000 and then the sub total of 4.9 million >> that column there is totaling 6.5 million >> that net is the 13 million >> right >> in the fund balance >>

099so the other six half millionish dollars then are are what category is it in because these are all the you know these are the these are the different funds so >> so um I I think probably better to answer That is we start with $18 billion. Okay. On the screen 18,584 less the assigned and the restricted. >> Okay. Brings you to the 13 um million ending reser um unallocated reserve balance that will then be carried forward if these restrictions stay in place. >> Okay. So the this is alloc unallocated funds. However, these are the specific categories of >> 18. So really the ending fund balance is and then we have our minimum 3% reserve and then we have these other reserves to bring us down to 13. Okay. Yeah. So when we look at our

100multi-year projections when we're used to looking at that three-year span that 13 would be carried over and addressing the deficit in the next year and then carried over and looking at the deficit that you'll see that 13 million shrink over the next three to five years. So I I'll try to yeah I'll make that more clear. All right. Some other fun detail fund detail is in our um our our reporting we have to report our activity in our ASBs that's part of uh you know that's been around for several years also um our child nutrition fund 13 deferred maintenance fun 14 special reserve fund fund 40 what we talked about with the root roof you can see that we've spent that um most of that with a balance left over um that's restricted to capital

101projects and then we have our capital facility funds fund 25 and um that is our our our developer piece, right? We also have restricted funds that are outside of the unrestricted in fund balance and they're um you have to think of them as little mini funds. They can't some of them can within guidelines be swept or maximized. We like to call it more than swept. Um but these are some balances of our restricted funds. We have things like ELO, okay, as a balance because we had um a lot of funds from the beginning carried over things like the educator effectiveness grant, restricted lottery. We have things like our um AB 841 HBAC the PAL shape program. We received the money already. That's projects going to be by the time we finish it. It's going to

102be the span of two years. So um these are restricted balances for those particular reasons and those reasons only. Yes, we try to find something like if there's something where on the unrestricted side of the budget that we that's an allowable expense of one of those, we're going to want to try to capture that if we can. Um but then you know these are um kind of in their own little fund. is the AG's access grant and learning they're not ongoing funding. So that's what's left. Um I we don't really talk about adults but I know that some of our counselor cost uh is attached to them. Correct. >> I'm sorry. >> Counselor >> I don't believe any of our counselors are are direct to that. But Jen is the master of these two grants.

103>> Yeah. There's no salary in there because I know they aren't on the bill. So just making sure no salary in there only cost conferences and ag support or whatever the colleges no salary just just you see and just covering the conferences for the APG um alliance with our partnerships. So like you're going to Cal State Sanino CCGI those conferences. Um but >> I think the counselor um that you're thinking about is being paid for at a CSI funds right now. >> Um now that technically is not ongoing although we expect >> I know I like that. >> Yeah. I just want to make sure. And then what in terms of those two grants, what else besides conferences? Weren't we supposed to have a little HG plan? And absolutely. In fact, we're in the process

104of um revamping that with the remaining funds to make sure they're updated. Um, we're looking at things like our partnership with CCGI and Cal State Sanino and the direct admissions field trip that's coming up for our high school seniors that are going to have automatic admissions to Cal State Sanino with our MLOU. They have a field trip that's coming up November 20th for those students. So, that's really exciting. It's going to help offset that. We're looking at subsidizing AP tests this year um to offset some costs for our kids for paying for those tests. uh work with um with Sunird this week um to look at um on average what those costs look like for our students and how we might be able to get those costs down for them um for an additional year.

105But as we mentioned this A3GS we're um looking at spending you know essentially by the end of the year because they do end um and then also AVID is another component supporting our our high school AVID um like professional development summer institutes um things like that. Um so most of our partnerships again aligning with Cal State aligning with CSGI Abid um AP tests trying to think of all of them not have it in front of your so I guess the other is that in trying to the whole goal in the grant because the way it was worded was we're going to give you this money if you are under 60%. And then we're going to give you a little yay for you if you're over 60%. So my whole thing is that how do how

106are we encouraging or are we using in part of this grant to really encourage and break through some of the um factors that the kid apathy um household barriers for kids to take their Hog classes and then ask them to see that's the other piece right do we have parts of that or are or are we addressing that with these two grants? Right. So, the there's two grants. One of them is the success and access grant and the other one is the learning loss mitigation. Um we're also looking at supporting the tutoring for rim height um for this school year. So, we're looking at that ongoing tutoring cost after school. >> Yes. Got it. using the AG questions already >> because you just look he's like >> mostly fine. >> Hey, I wanted to highlight

107some of the areas when I talked about maximizing restricted dollars um and some of the savings that would that we had or or unexpected revenue that we had. So, um, and you can see here, this is not, um, exhaustive because even if a grant maybe had $1,000 left, we're like, find something we can transfer over to it. Um, but the really the big ticket items. Um, and I wanted to highlight, you know, we did have, um, you know, transfers for the re remaining learning recovery block grant that were approximately 350,000. We had um maximizing indirect costs when a program aggregating funds and maybe typically we didn't charge indirect costs because we wanted that all to go to that program but and you know we had money left over we were able to maximize charging indirect

108costs um even to programs like EWP and cafeteria which we didn't have a um a history of necessarily charging um some programs like that because um of wanting the the dollars to stay with the the kids. But with some funds running at excess and surpluses um and there is a general fund cost for all of our time and and things like that, being able to to maximize those um is um a good practice to give some relief to the general fund. We had um unrestricted expense expenditures charged to ESSER over 200,000. we were able to transfer some special education expenditures last year um over to the remaining escer accounts also because those had to be spent by by um you know last year. So, and then we had a grant that offset last year and

109this year two of our psychologists um and then we had um some one-time facility use fees um and that is um the increased fees from um working out um on the the staging area. And then um we received a higher transportation reimbursement from the CDD. That is always a year um a year behind. So that trans that um revenue received was for the 23 24 school year. We get it in the next year and we can estimate the um we don't really know what it is until the books are closed and those final transportation expenditures are submitted. And so then we get um you know a certain percentage if if it's over the um amount part of part part of the LCFF. So we we have an estimate usually what that is and then um

110that was about um double if not more than double of the last two. It's relatively new payment that our district participated in. Okay. moving forward um as we kind of speak and working on even today posting carryover um and we are continuing to 2526 budget revisions hopefully those will be done in the next few weeks um post updated LCSF and TK and EOP funds I think two of those are already done um post new discretionary block grant um begin working on revised multi-year projections we do have some um work to do on maintaining long-term solutions uh to maintain fiscal solveny and we do have concerns with it's a blessing that we don't have defining enrollment but flat enrollment has its own challenges too um an increased cost for utility service health insurance we have relatively

111low colas which is cola only environment is really a cut because all of our natural increasing costs are not covered by colas We have a um statewide trend of unfunded mandates. We have an increase in special ed costs. Um that's not unique to RIM. As well, we do have deficit spending trends which um you you know is something that the district and the county are committed to um to work on. Um and that's going to um re you know revitalizing the the budget committee. you know, we have the attendance committee to work on higher attendance rates which transfers, you know, for student success but also into dollars. Um, and then working on our fiscal um solveny uh plan that will be pres the draft will be presented in December at the board meeting. Um, and

112then there is some still some concern over the future of federal funding. Oh yeah, >> speaking of that, I mean it's a small piece of that pie, but I don't think I believe the secure rule of schools act was not renewed and wasn't included in our money. Are we just are we anticipating just to not receive those? >> Um the recommendation from the county when that funding source started, I'm thinking about 10 or 12 years ago, we never budget for that fund because every year it had to get reauthorized anyway. And so uh it was uh and for RAM last year was only about 19,000 but it has been 30 to $40,000 in the past up to 5060. And so because it has to be reauthorized after we do our budget. The common practice is

113to just kind of incorporate those funds into um like a positive at year end then budget them. So, it's it it's money that we won't see as kind of a nicity, but it's not budgeted dollars that we're going to have to find to that. >> Okay. We already talked about the independent auditors. We've talked um uh on and off about monitoring enrollment. We've adjusted our our projections. We have to um review our current and restricted dollars. Um we tal I mentioned in um talking about the slide earlier about our fiscal solveny action plan with a um a draft and discussion by interum which is the December board meeting and then of course continued collaboration with our stakeholders and groups and that's it. >> Yeah. Um, with some of the commitments that we have that are

114reducing our energy or our our reserves at the moment, I'm wondering if there are other commitments, particularly maybe with the onetime block grant, that we might be interested in looking in future, um, to set aside some monies to contribute to our sectional. >> Yeah. And that is part one of the um unspent dollars from last year that be that I put really in a generic um on the slide. If you look at slide numbers um why doesn't have numbers on it but were we um about the components of the ending fund balance. Um, if we look at some prior year budgeted but unspent dollars and depending on if the need is still there and having that paper conversation or maybe through Friday updates or or in the board if we choose to um continue with

115some of those that we just didn't get, you know, to be a chance to work on but budgeted last year. Um, or versus some of this one-time dollars that we can definitely bring that discussion back and say, do we repurpose some of this or part of um the the discretionary block grant um for that. We can certainly have that discussion >> also. So some expenditures that possibly could be reimbursed to the district for measure E expenses. How does that fit in with all of this? That would be after speaking with our independent auditors, we would record that the general fund as revenue when we do it instead of approving for it. That was one of the things um depending on how far that 18 million will go, right? Um that can be approved for that

116knowing that we do have an interest to pay back the general fund and that's the LE and the um mountain um generators. So, um, and the recommendation was because we're not there yet. We hadn't sold the bonds that when if we do choose to, um, pay back the, um, the fund one for those expenditures, it would just get reported as revenue to fund one and then it would just kind of fall out to the greater good um, you know, in the ending fund balance. it wouldn't necessarily you wouldn't see that on an expenditure side um on the budget. It would just come in as an other revenue. But yeah, we talked about that with our auditors closing the book. Do I approve it? Do I not? And and it's really like you know what if

117something happens and you didn't sell the question. Thanks J. Okay. Thank you very much. 10.0 discussion information items. 10.1 legislative and advocacy report fiscal impact none. So Jordan, I I just asked Jordan to um send me the the final edited of her platform. Uh Senator Joe B is having the meet Pney and Me in the desert uh on Saturday at 10:00. I was invited of that as well. I say um I don't I asked Jordan. He didn't receive an invitation. You did. Okay. So, everybody got got invited to it. Okay. All right. Cool. >> There you go. I I sent you guys I'm not going to go over I sent you guys the update from um couple advisors on the um very hot topic bills that and their status. Uh that was Barrett Snider. I

118forwarded all of you guys that. So, not really going to go over that. Um, we'll just see how these play out at the end. Um, the you guys should have received hopefully from CSVA the action alerts, the advocacy action alert about the substitute teachers to encourage the governor to sign it. So, I'm encouraging all of you guys tonight to to do that. CSDA says that that actually has a huge impact because what happens is when a legislator or the governor their aids what they're doing is they're monitoring how much is coming in on a particular piece of legislation and when they're just getting slammed over and over and over and over and over this it's already rewritten for you for you from CSBA. you just need to put your information and you send it. It

119does make an impact. Even though you may think, oh, it's a form letter. No, it it actually becomes a headache for the staff. it becomes urgent and it does put pressure on on this the legislature or the governor to listen and and take into account CSBA's positions which you know obviously on the um sub 60-day sub we definitely want we took a position to support that. So please please um send that in. So just keep track of those those controversial bills and see where they're they're headed. And I sent that to you guys. I'm not going to be there. I don't remember the number for the bill. The one that was related to anti-semitism was concerned to see that part of what was added to the bill was related to having every everything that was

120being brought up in classroom was to be factual where sometimes we're not talking facts, we're talking concepts, ideas and that that concerned me. >> Yeah. And that's the problem is as the bills wind through and they become amended and amended amended and something 30 days ago gets drastically watered down or changed to where CSBA will actually this is um being on legislative committee CSBA will take an opposer support but there's there's several bills where the bills went sideways and CSBA um took an opposing position. So that's that's the issue as you as as the bills go forward and they're being negotiated and some bills are being, you know, kind of like one is being massaged at the expense of another. ones that the charter school um accountability, the non brick andmortar ones that that because

121there was so much abroad, especially the case in San Diego and it has changed and and the one that was opposed by unions and CSBA and everything else suddenly like got legs and you're like how did that happen? So that's the the problems with it and you know and of course 495 going forward that that one is creating a lot of of chitchat there is a lot when we talk about making sure you read different source materials making sure you have the facts of of 495 but we'll see how that goes. That bill is the one that extends the definition of um who is authorized to take care of a child and make the choices for um education and medical to expand it to you know um a teacher or a family friend. It's not

122just family um your your aunt member or whatever. So um you know we'll see how that that goes. um just as I said there's some bills that sort of went sideways in the last 30 days as you know so um anyways you guys have the update on those bills and if you have any questions let me know so next week is uh town hall with u senator and um wondering hoping that um I'm coming and going but maybe between the five of us if we can catch her here or maybe if anybody is attending on Saturday to see. >> I'm going to go on Saturday. So, what I thought I'd do is bring the platform. Jordan bought something that he's going to fix. Oh, look at he's so good. He just did it. Um and

123then and then asking her uh staff person if what their thought is is if she want if we want to meet with her prior to the town hall or if we want to do it separate since she might be just focused on the town hall. What would be better for our case to talk to her about our district the positives and introducing our platform to her. So, I I'm going to be there at 10 and I'm going to be there at center shows um coffee and meet set up by CSBA in the desert 10 a.m. >> Thanks for taking anything else. [Music] We already handled 11.2 personnel services approval of resolution number 2526-5 authorized district professional experience comparable to 24 units for teaching transitional kindergarten fiscal impact plan. Do I have a motion? >> Jordan

124spot discussion calling for the vote. All in favor? I all oppose. Motion passes unanimously. 11.3 Educational Services approval of public hearing to approve and adopt resolution 25/26-04. >> Cindy. Any discussion? Calling for the vote. All in favor? I. All oppose. Motion passes unanimously. 11.4 education. What was that? Now we have Okay. So yes. So yeah, correct. So approval of Yeah. 11.4 4 Educational Services Approval and adoption of the report and resolution number 25/26-044 public textbook sufficiency. What was that? >> Oh, for pupil, sorry, textbook sufficiency and instructional materials compliance for the 2025 2026 fiscal year. Visible impact $35,000 even budget source lottery instructional materials. So move Cindy >> Scott. Any discussion? Calling for the vote. All in favor? >> I. All opposed. Motion passes unanimously. 11.5 educational services approval of contract with Keith Hawkins Real

125Inspiration Inc. Days of Understanding for November 3rd and 4th, 2025. This will impact $9,200 even budget source site local control funding formula LCFF funds. >> Was that just a point? I thought we actually had to hold the public here, >> right? >> Yes, we do. Okay. So >> 10. >> So moving back to 11.3. >> So holding the public hearing. So procedures for public hearing. Public hearings are required on specific items such as the control accountability plan and budgets. Persons who wish to address the governing board on a matter set for a public hearing must complete a speaker form and submitted to the executive secretary to the superintendent before the meeting is called to order. Once the board president opens for public hearing, individual speakers are then up to five minutes to support, oppose, or

126otherwise offer an opinion on the issue. The board limits the total time for public input to 20 minutes. When public input is concluded, the board president will close the public hearing to forum. The governing board is interested in the ideas and opinions of the stakeholders and endeavors to incorporate community views into its deliberations and decisions. At the same time, it must be able to conduct its business in an organized and efficient manner free from material disruption. Therefore, in accordance with board bylaw 9323 and government code section 54957.9, audience members may not disrupt, disturb, or otherwise impede the orderly conduct of this meeting. Local meeting laws do not confer privilege or protection for expression beyond that otherwise provided by law. The public's understanding and cooperation are appreciated. Public hearing opened at 7:32 p.m. Any comments? Anything

127to go ahead and close this public hearing at 7:32 p.m. That was quick. anything to miss it. Thank you for that correction. >> Y I'm going to continue forward then to um 11.5 educational services approval approval of the contract with Brockkins Real Inspiration Inc. days of understanding from November 3rd 4th, 2025. Fiscal impact $1,2000. Budget source site local control funding formula LCF funds. Do I have a motion? Second, Cindy. >> Jordan. Any discussion? Calling for the vote. All in favor? I. All oppose. Motion passes unanimously. 11.6 6 Business Services Resolution number 25/26-02 authorizing the issuance of REM of the World Unified School District to collection of 2024 general obligation bonds series A and actions related there to fiscal impact none >> second >> bill is there any discussion >> no is very excited no discussion

128Calling for the vote. All in favor? >> I. All opposed. Motion passes unanimously. Yeah. 11.7 business services approval of resolution number 2526-03 for adopting GNN limit GAN fiscal impact. None. Do I have a motion? >> So move second and then Jordan. Any discussion on this one? >> Can you explain? >> Stop it. >> Sorry. >> No, he's being decision. Don't >> Don't do it. >> Thank you. >> I thought that would be although I you know I think it was back what 1976 he did ask for he didn't hear. He resended his request. Calling for the vote then. All in favor? All >> oppose. Motion passes unanimously. [Music] >> 12.0 consent calendar. Want to take a few moments to look through it and see if there's anything you want to have hold. Hey guys, >>

129so we're not any of them. Let me go ahead and um call for a motion for 12.1 12.2 12.3 12.4 12.5 12.6 12.7 12.8 8 12.9 12 10 12 11 12 12 13 12 14 12 15 12 16 and 127 >> so move >> Scott >> second >> bill any discussion calling for all in favor I >> I all oppose that motion house as unanimous 13 14.0 Zero governance team future agenda items planning 14.1 time allotted for the board of trustees to request agenda items for future meetings. question. >> I would like to have a review of the equity and social justice committee. I think we may have put that on for something in the future, but I but I do think we need to have board conversation about the equity and social justice committee.

130We are trying to do that in creative ways but I still think that the way we formed the committee was appropriate and that needs to be looked at again. Didn't we add this to our governance? No, not not sorry. We we have put it on our governance calendar in prior years as a report out from the committee. But Bill is asking, let's have a conversation about >> where are we at? Where do we want to go with this committee? How does it look that continuing the work and honoring the work of that committee at with Dr. to and and going forward with how do we want it to work? I know that we're using the LCAP as the student piece of that, but you know, we haven't really benefited in the parent voice and those

131types of things adding to and that was a place where parents actually also came and had their voice heard about their their views on our campuses and our climate and culture and things. So, I think that's what Bill is asking is a deep dive. We can add that to the board. >> I would also request um would be lovely to get some a report about um what's happening with conclusions and maybe have an opportunity to celebrate um MPH's award. I know I'm excited about going to that makes fantastic. But maybe we want to celebrate. Maybe this is an opportunity to talk inclusion and also celebrate. We can adapt to the agenda as well. >> When is the special ed report? It's on the governance calendar. Oh, for a while. >> Okay, never mind. Inclusion committed.

132>> Oh, I bet you did. Well, we're here with our celebration. Any other 15. No. 15.0. Future meeting dates. Regular board meeting. October 16th, 2025. 4:00 p.m. Close session 5:30 p.m. Welcome session 24740 San Way Presley, California 9325. Then regular board meeting on November 20th, 2025, 4 p.m. close session. 5:30 p.m. open session. 24740 San Marway, Cresland, California 92325. 16.0 We do not need to recess to close session. So 17.0 adjournment 17.1 adjourn meeting. Do I have a motion? >> So move. So a second >> second >> Cindy I'm assuming no discussion I'm calling for the vote all in favor >> I any opposed the motion passes unanimously the meeting is.