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Board of Education Meeting - Public Session - September 28 2023

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YouTube / South Orange & Maplewood School District
Date
2023-09-29
Location
Ada County, ID
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42,128 words · about 235 min
Collected
2026-06-09

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001okay okay [Music] [Music] [Applause] questions all right good evening it's 6 34 p.m and I'd like  to call the September 28th meeting of the South   Orange Maplewood Board of Education to order  Mr Burnside can you please take the Roll Call   board member Nubia Duvall Wilson here board member  Regina Eckert here board member Bill Gifford   president board member Alyssa malaspina  here board member Kali telesford here   board member Arun pad lamani here board member  Courtney Wingfield here board president Caitlin   whitlider here board member Johanna Wright thank  you please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance pledge allegiance to the flag of  the States of America and to the   Republic for which it stands one nation under  indivisible with liberty and justice for all   all right so we are in for a real treat this  evening we have a

002performance from the CHS   acapella acapella singer and and Ensemble so we  will get out of their way so we can hear their   beautiful voices hi we are unaccompanied minors  we are Columbia High School's mixed acapella group   uh today we'll be singing soccer uh written by the  Jonas Brothers with our soloist Paige provenzano [Applause] we go together better than birds of a feather  you and me we change the weather I'm feeling   heat in December when you're around me I've  been dancing on top of cars and stumbling   out of bars I follow you through the dark  and getting up you're the medicine and the   pain the tattoo inside my brain and baby  you know it's obvious I'm a sucker for you   say the word and I'll go anywhere blindly I'm  a sucker for you yeah any road

003you take you   know that you'll find me I'm a sucker for all  the subliminal things no one knows about you   about you and you're making my typical me break  my typical rules it's true I'm a sucker for you   don't complicate it cause I know you and me  know everything about me I can't remember   all of the nights I don't remember when you're  around me I've been dancing on top of cars and   stumbling out of bars to follow you through the  dark Can't Get Enough you're the medicine and   the pain the tattoo inside my brain and baby  you know it's obvious I'm a sucker for you   say the word and I'll go anywhere blindly I'm  a sucker for you yeah any road you take you   know that you'll find me I'm a sucker for all  the

004supplemental things no one knows about you   about you and you're making my typical  me break my typical rules it's true I'm a   sucker for all this subliminal things no one  knows about you about you and you're making   my typical me break my typical rules it's  true I'm a sucker for you [Applause] [Music] okay awesome [Applause] thank you that was amazing I  wish I could sing like that   um okay so please take note that adequate notice  of this meeting has been provided in the following   manner a written notice was sent from the  office of the secretary of the board at 2   30 pm on January 6 2023 that said notice was sent  via email to Maplewood in South Orange Township   clerks and editors of the news record Star Ledger  and the Village Green this evening the

005board will   have the honor of swearing in our remaining newly  elected student board representative ASA Glassman   also on the agenda for this evening is a district  presentation on equal opportunity schools the hibb   self-assessment presentation will now be done on  the October meeting with that I'd like to make a   motion to enter into executive session at 6 40  pm to discuss attorney-client matters personnel   hibs and litigation status report the link of the  executive session is estimated to be 60 minutes   after which the public meeting of the board  shall reconvene and proceed with business where   formal action will be taken may I have a second  thank you board member miles Spina all in favor   the vote appears to be unanimous we are  now a journey to closed session thank you and good evening everyone and thank  you

006for joining us for our back to   school board meeting night we will kick  off the meeting with the swearing-in of   CHS student ASA Glassman as our  new student representative ASA   please join us up here for the swearing-in  ceremony which will be done by Mr Burnside testing [Music]   okay I state your name ASA Glassman do you  solemnly swear do solemnly swear that I will   support the Constitution of the United States  that I will support the Constitution of the United   States and the constitution of the state of New  Jersey and the constitution of the state of New   Jersey and that I will bear true faith and that I  will bear true faith and Allegiance and Allegiance   to the same to the same and to the governments  established in the United States and to the   governments established in

007the United States and  this state under the authority of the people and   this day under the authority of the people so  help me God so help me God I state your name ASA   Glassman do solemnly swear do solemnly swear did  I possess the qualifications that I possess the   qualifications for the office of member of student  representative for the office of member of student   representative to the board of education  to the board of education and that I will   faithfully and that I will faithfully impartially  impartially and justly and justly perform all the   duties of that office perform all the duties of  that office according to the best of my ability   according to the best of my ability so help me  God so help me God thank you congratulations congratulations Asa I'd like to now make  a

008motion to approve the board meeting   minutes for the August 1st 2023 special  meeting and the executive session and   regular meeting minutes for the August  24th 2023 meeting do I have a second   thank you board member Ecker all  in favor please raise your hand   the meeting minutes have been approved I will now  turn it over to Dr Taylor for two presentations   thank you madam president and good  evening to everyone oh sorry Dr Taylor   student boy reps next I'm sorry yes oh so sorry  yes refresh your ride yes yes thank you so much   um I will now turn it over to our student  s for their update is this on okay   um hello everyone I feel that before I begin  my report I should first introduce myself my   name is Gwyneth Brown and I'm currently a junior 

009at Columbia High School I moved to The District   in fourth grade from Illinois where I attended  South Mountain and following that Psalms I have   thoroughly enjoyed my time in the district and I  feel extremely grateful to have this opportunity   alongside my peer and friend ASA Glassman this  being said ASA and I started our role this year   welcoming teachers back into the building on the  6th of September we know how important teachers   student relationships are and therefore we see  immense value in ensuring our teachers feel   welcome and appreciated this event occurring  for the first time in person since 2019 is an   indication that finally our district has streamed  to normalcy in relation to the covet pandemic   overall CHS has seen a smooth transition into  the new school year the newly renovated Underhill   Sports Complex has seen

010many spirited games and  wins from our fall sports teams clubs have resumed   meeting following the annual Club fair that  took place in the beginning of the year and the   increase in transparency communicated regarding  drills construction and other complications has   given students improved confidence in CHS  Administration yet this year Columbia High   School has seen many changes made through the new  disciplinary measures implemented a new schedule   in place as you may or may not know one thing  that our predecessors Noah and Vanessa worked   hard on was the Improvement of school safety this  year many new measures have been taken to improve   this ASA and I met with vice principal King this  past week and discussed these changes among them   are new ID card regulations which mandate the  wearing of ID cards at all times and a new

011swipe   in policy which will be fully running within the  next week or so and will sync students entering   the building into PowerSchool another positive  change is to push to have teachers in the hall   between periods welcoming students into their  classrooms the goal is to minimize students in   the Halls during classes and to improve student  relationships with security this is being done by   creating a more positive disciplinary environment  as now all administrative Personnel are working   to ensure students are where they need to be these  changes have been very successful as already there   is a notable decrease in students wandering the  halls and leaving school during unauthorized class   periods ASA and I mentioned to Mr King that while  these changes are extremely beneficial the student   body needs consistency for these regulations to be  taken seriously and for

012them to continue to show   positive results they need to be enforced  especially because in the past the school   has been arguably lenient regarding students  whereabouts and the goal of increased community   and positive interaction between students and  authorities is extremely valuable to our education   some of this year's changes have not come without  challenges ASA and I conducted a study to gauge   student opinion on the new schedule which made  conference period 1 period 1 as opposed to period   9 in previous years while many students enjoy the  additional sleep student athletes make up majority   of the student body are suffering the consequences  many athletes leave early from their ninth period   class to attend sports games this has become a  problem as now ninth period is an academic class   instead of a free period or gym additionally this  schedule

013does not solve the problem of conference   period where students must choose between taking  an additional class or having availability to meet   with their teachers outside of their designated  class time we gathered that around 75 percent of   students prefer last year's schedule to this year  for reasons such as that the Athletics mentioned   above but also because it was more accommodating  for students with extended time on assignments   and tests who could no longer go after class  and finish their work ASA and I will continue   to update the board as the year progresses to  see if the intended goals of reduced tardiness   and traffic are living up to the expectations of  administration when this new schedule was created   this month ASA and I also met with principal  Sanchez we addressed the option 2 program a   program that allows

014students who exercise outside  of school to have a study hall for one semester   inside of gym and work to get the newly complex  sign up changed to a more reasonable procedure   we also discussed our goals for this year one of  which is to improve knowledge on College visits   and extracurricular opportunities we began  planning a college fair which will take place   in the spring and works at the administration  to set up better emailing policies to inform   students of college visits and opportunities  as well as setting them a board outside the   guidance office with a calendar and sign  up information finally in our meeting with   Dr Taylor ASA and I emphasized the importance  of school counselors and began to discuss the   ways we can improve the counseling process and  support offered at CHS school counselors make   a

015huge impact on our high school experience and  have the power to Aid students who may not receive   support at home so that they are taking full  advantage of every opportunity CHS has to offer   that is offered this month's board report but  I would now like to address somsd student body   in saying that ace and I are here to serve and  support you we strongly encourage you to reach out   to us and communicate your concerns so we can make  SMSD a better place for every student thank you do we have any questions I I actually do thank  you so much I'm sorry ASA I was in the bathroom   when you were oh wait he has he been oh okay he  was born in I'm like did he get the morning or   not sorry um but I

016want to uh thank you guys for  your detailed presentation um we have been hearing   some information about um The Freshman Academy  is there any way that you guys can look you know   report back to us as to what's going on with it  or how the uh freshmen are feeling about the pro   yeah so already we actually included that within  our survey but we got mixed results some freshmen   think it's beneficial some aren't really sure  from what I we've kind of been getting is that   it hasn't necessarily started up yet so for next  month we'll be able to get more of a gauge on   you know what is actually happening within those  classes and if it really is making a difference in   um the transition between Middle School to  high school which is what it's intended

017to do   um so we'll definitely update you thank you so  much that would be really helpful I appreciate   that and just one other exciting thing to  note so it just so happens that the timing to   um look at our student representative  policy um is now so we've tasked our   student representatives to take a first stab  at making some potential changes and looking   at the language so they will be doing that  work and we'll report back to the policy   committee so thank you both and if you have  any questions feel free to reach out about that   I think that's it so Dr Taylor for the  superintendent update thank you um and also for   our for our board Representatives congratulations  and thank you for being selected by your peers to   represent them and it was great speaking

018with  you um regarding freshman um academy one of the   actions tonight is linked to what you just said  so it'll be um it's great timing um before I begin   um I know that sometimes in the board meeting  we start moving around a lot so I wanted to   just ask the board members you want to take one  picture in our in our school gear before we get   started that'll be good you want to come  in the middle there okay all right great words [Music] that was interesting you  better display one two three [Music] this is South Orange Middle School MLK for us to to capture that it's always great  to have the board members represent schools   physically with their gear on the on the first  board meeting of the official school year we   have two presentations

019for you this evening  we're going to start with Dr Gilbert who's   going to share with you um some important  information that's annual reporting of our   self-assessment for HIV per the legal  statute Dr Gilbert the floor is yours good evening board Dr Taylor members of the board  I'm here to walk you through the 2020 21-22 uh   HIV grade assessment in October we will introduce  the 2223 assessment that leads to the grades and   then the the state will give us our grades and  I'll come back before you for the 22-23 grades   um you go to the next slide this slide gives you the statute uh the  self-assessment is used by the district   to determine you know how we feel like  we are implementing the anti-bullying of   uh Bill of Rights uh the school climate team is  the

020group that's required to help complete our   self-assessment and the information tonight as I  said is good the assessment for 2122 you voted on   the assessment last year but you have not seen  the grades these are the grades for 21-22 in   October you will vote on the 22-23 assessment  and then in the spring we will show you the   grades for 22-23. uh next slide please and also  for the public not knowledge the grades are also   posted on the access and Equity uh page on our  website as well so the anti-bullying assessment   uh we'll look at the following criteria our  programs and approaches our training uh staff   instruction and training programs uh deals with  our Personnel uh the school level and reporting   procedures and our reporting and then some  some of these other factors that you see

021here   each category is broken down in the indicators uh  and through the 26 standards uh next slide please see this but you were able to see it when it  gets on our website this is just a timeline to   kind of show you how this process is going  and and how it's to flow next slide please   so here we go the scores you can go to the next slide so this is what uh you could get from three  to zero to three are the scores exceeds get   you a three zero you do not meet and then if  you partially meet you can get a one and then   you can get a two if all the requirements have  been met the uh proficiency score that schools   are looking for is at least a 52. so when  you're

022looking at this and the highest you   can get is a 78. so when you're looking at the  scores 52 means we're proficient in everything   68 means that we've exceeded everything in  all of our requirements next slide please   so these are the scores from 2122 all schools  as you will notice on this side are above 52   uh we have many schools in the 60 range and a few  schools that are in the 70s with 73 uh being the   highest score so uh with this slide tells you is  that we are proficient in our HIV but of course   you know with the less room to grow in some areas  next slide please I think let me yeah let me tell   sorry sorry wants to sir he wants to also be  part of this presentation sorry about that

023uh   this is uh I know the board always likes to  see us gauge and and look at how we've been   doing over the years that's what this particular  slide shows you at the bottom you can see what our   average over this uh four year uh span has been  when it comes to our grades and as you can see   that we are consistently proficient in our work  and uh continue to um move forward next slide this is Columbia High School's breakdown if  you all want to take a look at that this is   the scoring rubric uh the total possible is on  the left uh with the school kind of assessment   assess themselves at is on the right as you can  see there um the scores are you know the possible   total versus what they can get

024there's not much  variance or difference there this is Columbia   High School next slide this is uh Maplewood  Middle School give you some time to look at that hey Dr Gilbert while you're pausing there just  for board members who who weren't on previous   um conversations about this we've used  these scores over the years to tailor our   professional development for the abs's um if  we hear that there's not enough PD happening   or certain areas need support we've used that  to invest and plan for the following years yep   thank you sir next slide please this  is uh Psalms South Orange Middle School and if there's a number that you all you know  just feel free I just figured you all can see that   next slide this is Clinton next slide this is Delia Bolden and as you can

025see across the board then  one number that we're seeing a lot of the   self-assessments not meeting the total maximums  around uh this core staff instruction and training   programs we've been over the since I've been since  I've arrived in May 2022 that's one of the things   we've been working on consistently is making sure  we get those trainings or put them in the in in in   some kind of area where we're constantly helping  them uh train on their skills uh next slide please   the other area in some of our uh schools you  will also see when these grades came out was   just around the support for our abs's in terms  of investigating procedures uh some schools are   we're performing better than others that's  also another area that we're really going to   be looking at next slide Montrose

026Montrose is  interested in that uh they both have Montrose   captains not only what happens inside of  Montrose but also we have Pre-K sites that   are not Montrose that are part of our Pre-K we  have an ABS who also Services those schools as   well and those scores are part of the Montrose  assessment next slide please self-aboiding as inconsistent with the other schools  you can see that score around the uh   incident reporting procedures next slide please Alpha Mountain and the annex so we we do have  to do uh separate reporting for not just the   South Mountain the main campus but also the  annex since there's a building we report the   numbers are we have the self-assess and Report  the numbers on that as well next slide please and here's Tuscan all right next slide so what does

027all of  this mean what were we looking at you got   to keep clicking so we can see the the things  in the areas so we could respect we're doing   an outstanding job where we could respect you're  going to hear at an October presentation we'll be   presenting to you and what our ABS go back there  we go uh the average increase you know uh of our   self-assessment is like 14 points over the last  four years so we're seeing a steadily increase   in our school actual grading that comes out so  we are seeing some uh uh advances in that and   then all schools again another Commendation all  schools are reporting we are reporting or being   scored as proficient in our practices uh when  it comes to our HIV uh work next slide please   but there are areas

028to grow and growing is  something that uh I think we all if we reach   a point to where you can't grow then you have  to have some some concerns and so this slide   talks about what are the areas of growth  that you're going to see the things that   we're really investing in to show to get better  scores like I showed you 78 is the top score 52   is the proficient score you saw we got a good  range of schools anywhere in between that mix   really hovering around in the 60 70 range and so  how can we help move those scores well first uh   an investigation timelines really working on our  working with our abs's to make sure we're meeting   our investigative timelines providing them  support and the skills necessary to complete   efficient uh uh of

029Investigations so that we're  on top of that our teachers staff professional   development looking for those opportunities to  really work with not only our abs's but with   our staff around hivs so our ABS has just finished  going through uh our director of access and Equity   just moved our abs's through a real intensive  training but we just finished doing that with   our principals as well and our abs's are now  being equipped to give that training to their   staff so we should probably start seeing a lot  more standardization and understanding around our   HIV process all the way down and then student  learning opportunities we are rolling out an   official HIV curriculum uh this year uh where  our students will be going through structured   approved lessons that uh Point directly to kind  of helping our students learn about hivs

030and the   importance of not bullying and how we can support  our students and so all of those things that we   were putting in now we should start seeing some  uh increases in our scores next slide please so here are the goals as we look for 23  22 20 20 23 24 we want to increase those   professional learning opportunities we want  to increase our student learning our school   climate teams are getting some support uh Ms  wavel will be supporting our school climate   teams and she's already begun that work as our  school climbing teams are essential to helping   build the types of cultures and climates we need  in our buildings and uh training and support for   abs's we are supporting them along the way we're  working with those abs's that need just a little   more grooming and

031a little more support and  uh we're hoping to start seeing uh like I say   higher grading when it comes to our assessment  and assessment from the state and our grades   and I think that's it next slide yes the questions  thank you Dr Gilbert um board members um I know   that you're aware having been on the board  for a while that this is always a tough topic   we always are in trying to improve our reporting  process and you're always pushing us to give more   precise information and because we know this is  a very important topic and I just want to commend   um Dr Gilbert and Miss Weibel because they're  bringing to fruition some of that job description   when we redesign central office around placing  the HIV under um cabinet members and removing   it from our attorney

032so that our attorneys  could be a part of an official review and not   the investigators and so happy to take any  questions that you may have on this report board member malice Mina then board member  Duval Wilson um I want to thank you for your   uh the information and I want to commend you  for our um following through on some of the   requests that the board has made uh over the  years because for the I will be honest with   you for the past three years we have struggled  what that I've been on the board struggled to get   um good detailed information and hibs done on  time and and you know proper procedures followed   and this is the first time in my three years that  I'm actually feeling hopeful that that might occur   um because it

033really while we as self-assess  ourselves and we have to remember this is   a self-assessment we're self-recessing  ourselves good I haven't fully seen that   coming to the board in fruition in the  reports that we have seen come back to   us we still have a long way to go in my opinion  on how we are handling hibs and making sure that   we are doing everything properly in regards  to them so um I appreciate that you are um   moving forward in a way that hopefully we  can fix some of the issues we have thank you   thanks for the report I just had one question  um just jump just um echoing what Alyssa said   about streamlining the process and improving it  and systematizing it which has been an ongoing   conversation this year um obviously there are  some schools that

034are doing better than others   which you've already noted but what I don't see  in the goals is how the schools are sharing best   practices together and not working in silos so  how where does that fit into the goals where   Clinton can share why they're so high and what  are those best practices that can be um that can   be duplicated in other schools right so um or  you feel I'm sorry I didn't mean to cut you off   okay thank you um so um as I shared earlier so  our abs's have a beginning of the year training   together right but then also throughout the the  year monthly they they also have individual trains   where we come in and we talk to them and that's  where the opportunity lies to share not only best   practices but they get

035updates and then that's  how we also provide the supports and so there   is an opportunity for them to share and also uh  unders and streamline you know what's working   and what's not working and that's we started that  last year and then this year it's even better Miss   Weibel brings them uh you know good examples they  did scenarios this year they did scenarios and   they will continue to do scenarios where they're  seeing examples of what's happening and having an   opportunity to talk about isn't an HIV is it not  a HIV what are some of the things that you need   to do one of the pieces of the process that we  have streamlined is when the HIV reporting comes   Ms wable gets it before it comes to me before  I even give it to you on the

036board report where   we're actually checking now everything that's  being submitted and if we don't have what we   need submitted unfortunately it goes back back  so as long as we're in that 10-day window for   our investigation they get the investigation done  within 10 day 10 10 10 days we're good but we want   to make sure that when the information comes you  know we're not only making sure you're getting the   accurate information but we're actually getting  best practices on what to do and what not to do   based on that and transferring that information  to our abs's so they can support one another and   so we can support them do the best we can all  right go ahead board member about the money is this document going to be made public so the  presentation is going to be

037made and our grades   are already made plugged so the public can go  to the access and Equity website and all of the   grades from all of the years are on our website  so they can see their report card and they can see   what our grades are it's already made public for  them and and next time you know for presentations   like this maybe you can the can the board  get a copy if you did when was this I'm sorry okay [Music] and Melanie okay that's fine so so yes okay okay  that's even better so can we create a one-page or   very similar to you know become a big fan of one  Pages because we have everything in one place to   look at similar to what we had for the settlement  with the equity audit report is

038that we have this   really one good slide which shows points across  years you know 19 2019 20 20 21 22 and you could   have just one column on the side that says what  have you recommended for things that have gone not   as well as last year because I know you mentioned  that you know you do professional development you   do you know some you have recommendations to  improve okay so if the points have gone down   so it went from 50 60 70 75 and now it's back to  60. okay obviously there's a recommendation so   if you can put that recommendation on that page  and make that public so then what happens now is   everyone knows about it okay it's in one place  one place to find it that would be very useful   okay okay thanks just

039one thing board members  thank you um for the feedback we're also trying   to because this is an individual year over year  self-assessment right we don't want to create   pressure on folks to artificially inflate   numbers to make their schools or themselves look  great it's it's a working document that's all it's   not a final outside view of their work so we're  always just kind of careful to not unintentionally   apply that kind of pressure to folks because  people can make mistakes when that happens um I have a a request for the week weekly packages  that we get can you maybe have some kind of a   hierarchy in there which says what is important  what is not because we have 50 line items in there   and some of them are absolutely well they're  all important yes but some of

040them are not as   important as this one this particular document is  because if I'm going down the thing some of them   are press releases and so on so maybe you can  have some kind of a force hierarchy which says   this is important so we um everything  can't be important no but I do want to say   um the district it was uploaded into school  boards it's a private attachment as part of   our board meeting pack of all the documents that  we have to review so it was there along with the   weekly packet which I think was just an extra step  that the district took to give us the information the weekly package was from last week not from  this week so it was at it was done correctly   don't get me wrong I mean all everything

041was done  correctly but the problem is with whatever 25 line   items you know this is just seems like a a very  you know there's a place called whatever a bunch   of documents but some of them are important  some not as important so all I'm asking for   is if you can Force rank them based on your  expertise and that'd be good enough thanks um so um the other thing I just wanted to note  is that I just wanted to thank your team Miss   Weibel and yourself um many of us participate in  the hip appeals and I think when we've come back   with feedback um we've already heard you're on  top of it I know this checklist that Miss weabel   was talking about that you just addressed as  well is something that she's been working on   and

042I know that in a forthcoming meeting all of  the collective work that you've been doing which   I know has been very labor intensive will be  presented to the board into the community so I   look forward to that but um I know it's been a lot  of work so thank you so much you're welcome and   we'll continue to improve our Friday package with  feedback so thank you for that and maybe there's   ways to highlight and we'll we're always working  together to to give you what you need so thank   you for that feedback and thank you Dr Gilbert  and Miss Weibel thank you and Mr Barnes is there   a way that you can show me how to get that link  on my cell phone I would appreciate it thank you all right uh we have a visitor

043we have a  virtual visitor um Miss Jessica lamb from   EOS equal opportunity schools is here  with us along with uh principal Sanchez   hello miss Lamb how are you good evening everyone  great I want to do a quick voice voice check and   Mr bonds is going to share the presentation  while miss Lamb and principal Sanchez give an   update from equal opportunity schools which is  a partner that we utilize and have presented on   um biannually regarding recognizing and promoting  AP opportunities to traditionally underrepresented   students and so I'll give the floor to miss  Lamb and principal Sanchez and we can share   the presentation wonderful thank you appreciate  that all right well good evening everyone thank   you so much for allowing me and principal  Sanchez sorry principal Sanchez I can't be   there with you so we're gonna we facilitate 

044virtually and in person tonight um I'm really   excited to be here I have been working with the  district and CHS in particular for the last two   years so this will be the third school year we're  going into um and every time I have gone to CHS I   got to visit for the first time this past school  year it was an absolutely fantastic experience   um can't say enough about how much district and  School staff had allowed me to visit classroom to   be able to talk to students and staff and really  get a sense of how do students feel about their   classes and the opportunities they have to  take Advanced courses and also their sense of   belonging within a class and how that impacts  if they choose to continue to take Advanced   courses and what has also

045propelled them to take  Advanced courses and so you're going to see a lot   of this data throughout this presentation and  I'm going to do my very best to break down some   of the data points for you because there can't  be some dense um data happening from all fronts   so Frank do you want to say anything before we  continue I just want to say it's been a pleasure   working with equal opportunity schools and I  thank us for working together and Jess has been   an incredible partner and really has worked well  uh interviewing our students too she's not only   has helped us with our data and and worked with  our counselors on how to use certain attributes   of EOS but she also I think just as a compliment  to you Jess had a great rapport with many

046of our   students in our interview process that we did  with our um our kiddos so thanks again Jess no problem all right we'll get  started with the first slide   so just to give a little overview of what  this presentation will be I tend to talk   fast so feel free to tell me if I need to slow  down I will be monitoring that myself and using   my teacher voice to project um we'll just be  going through our partnership overview do you   see what this past school year 2022 2023 looked  like before I show you the semester grade report   which is specifically the spring semester grade  report from this past school year I'll show you   what the student supports have looked like from  some partner schools as well as what I have seen   um can take place

047at CHS and has been taking  place at CHS as well right and keep going and for anyone who's wondering what is equal  opportunity schools we are organization based   out of Seattle I actually live in New Orleans  Louisiana myself but our goal is to make sure   that all students just have equal opportunities  and access to the most advanced High School   course offerings so rather that is AP or IB  dual credit honors vocational we want to make   sure that students just feel that in their  schools they have an open opportunity to take   any advanced course that suits their interests  and what they would like to do post-secondary all right we'll keep going one more  time okay so this is just very Broad   and I always like to start here by naming  that so you have to take

048advanced classes   in high school are best better prepared  for their post-secondary Endeavors and   I always tell people while that can include  college that also can include post-secondary   um Pathways that don't include College I always  say if a student wants to go into the military   there's nothing wrong with them taking an AP  U.S history class or an AP chem class because   that's something they're interested in so I always  say that students who are able to take Advanced   courses are just able to be better prepared for  what they would like to do after high school and this is just some information um at EOS that  we often talk to our partners about of just how   important access and opportunity are to students  so you see on the left this is a chart graph of   the percentage of

049students with varying AP and  non-ap experiences who earn a bachelor's degree   within four years so you see if there's no access  to like AP original enrollment courses you see   that's about 11 and you see as we go further and  further rather that's AP or dual enrollment that   it keeps increasing to if students are able  to even just take an AP course an exam that   already increases 10 percent from the bottom  and then if student is able to just take a b   courses and exams with an average of a four or  five on that exam itself see there's a 50 chance   and you see how greatly that increases with every  excess level that they have to dual enrollment or   AP and you'll hear me say AP a lot because of  what CHS offers but we work

050with schools that   also have IB or ABN IB dual credit Etc and on the  right you see students who are scoring just a two   or Plus on an AP exam are nearly three times more  likely to get a bachelor's degree in four years   okay so just the exposure alone to  an AP class really does have a huge   impact on your ability to earn  a college degree or probability and miss Lamb I just want to add that um something  that Columbia High School had not done before   2021 or 2022 is we did not offer dual enrollment  classes and so that's something that we instituted   um just two years ago and so we wanted to  make sure that that data was also part of this   um as as part of what we collect and also as  part

051of our um data that we that we also talk   with our black parents Workshop settlement yes  awesome thank you friend for adding that and   that is true a few of our schools and I mentioned  this to everyone that advanced courses period are   incredibly important um I think the prevalence of  AP is one because you see them in so many of our   schools and dual enrollment or dual credit can  look differently based off of your District or   school but all of those classes are incredibly  important to students having that access point foreign and to be very clear on what  the data is we have not had updated   information or data since the pandemic  so this is coming from 2018 but I always   want to make sure that people hear this in  terms of college completion that

052there is a   gap for Black and Hispanic latinx students in  college completion so this from 25 to 29 year   olds right now as of 20 I should say as of 2018  who had attained a bachelor's degree or higher   and you see the proportions as you look across  race and ethnicity and you see that Black and   Hispanic adults have the largest gaps and this  for 25 to 29 year olds who attained a bachelor's   degree and it is including four-year rate and  up to six year rate two as I get that question   so it's even more important to think about if  this is happening on such a systemic scale in   society for adults we have to think about what  is happening within K-12 that we can fix what   we can control within our own School communities  and

053our own districts to make sure that we are   preparing specifically those groups and all of our  students for college and post-secondary options all right so what did we accomplish let's  go to the next slide so you can see some of   this information um first huge part of what  we do we can't do any of this work without   surveying students and staff so we have a  student survey that we have that goes out   typically every fall is when we do it so it can I  know you all just started school I think the last   couple years it's tended to be around November to  December and we also have a staff serving as well   so the student survey we like asking students how  do you feel about your classes do you feel like   they're rigorous um if

054you've taken an AP class  or dual enrollment what inspired you to take that   class or if you have not what is your reasoning  for not taking that class staff it's a little   um different in terms we really like to ask staff  how do they view rigor within the classes that   they teach the classes they do not teach and  how do they view students opportunities and   abilities to enter classes whether they're  Advanced courses and poor content as well   so you see here 59 of students this past  school year took the survey 81 of staff   took the survey our goal typically is 80 to  90 percent and so I know that area growth   for us this upcoming year is to make sure we  get that number up into the 80s for students   um and it's completely optional

055so if they're a  student who doesn't want to take the survey or   the staff they totally can do that and opt out  um but we like having that 80 to 90 of knowing   that we just have a strong majority of opinions  and people being able to give their feedback   keep it going so who are you  identified so with that survey   um what we're able to do with the staff responses  is actually identify students who had not taken   and this is specific to AP right now but who had  not taken an AP course before but have an interest   they also could name that they have had an  interest in AP they have at least a 1.8 GPA I know   some people like 1.8 1.8 GPA has been proven that  if a student is able to take

056a advanced course of   their lacking with that GPA they do have a high  probability of passing that course so that's why   it's 1.8 um having one of our learning mindsets  or having a teacher recommendation and if even   if you did not take the survey you would never  be discluded from being identified and included   in the list so you can have one of those four  you can have all of them identified that's how   we receive that list so there's 444 10th and 11th  graders the reason why we have 10th and 11th grade   because we know that those are rising Juniors and  seniors and we know for that kind of second half   of high school that's really defined for seniors  where this is your last year of being able to take   an advanced course before you're off

057and for  juniors that gives you a good base of at least   two years to be able to take a class um we also  recognize that at quite a few of our schools there   are ninth graders and 10th graders who are able  to take AP but we standard and we have the data   to include 9th and tenth but we tend to go with  11th and 12th or the rising 11th and 12th graders   um to have that as like a baseline data point  which resulted in 195 students who are enrolled   and by that you're probably what students 195  students of color the district does not collect   um socioeconomic status so you'll see in some  of the slides I have you'll see students of   color and low-income students and that is not  included in the district because of

058that income   um point is not there so let's go to some  graphs to make it more visual for you so   this is a part of the survey we asked students  why were they participating in advanced high   level courses and why were they not so  we specifically asked with this question   um students who had not been taking  classes at CHS for dance straight up asked   why what is what is that the top five  reasons have been across the board of my   other partner schools which are up and down the  East Coast very similar in common too much work   will be successful concerned about GPA not enough  support available and not enough information   provided when I look at this my teacher Brian  automatically goes to these are all adult things   that we can join together and figure

059out uh for  quite a few students there sometimes is a stigma   on Advanced course like it's too much work it's  going to be too hard I won't be successful at this   which goes into those top two concerned about  GPA with some of the Insight cards I've seen from   students there are students who have a 4.0 haven't  taken Advanced course before and because their   worry is that advanced course could potentially  bring down my GPA for those initial top two   points of too much work or won't be successful  so they tend to shy away or could shy away   not enough support available and not enough  information provided is always something that   I give a lot of nuance to because that is very  personal to the students of why they feel that way   um but I always talk

060to admin and  counseling departments about that too of   even if you feel that you go into every classroom  and talk about the course offerings if you're a   student who doesn't believe that you belong  in those courses you don't feel like that's   information for you or that's information  that's specifically provided for you   if I could just go ahead Frank I'm sorry  if I could just add miss Lamb I thought   which was very interesting when we had student um  discussions and talks I tried to have Miss lamb   in there with the students by themselves but  as I would pop in and she would share with me   um I thought was very interesting with the  conversations when we had with us our students   of color who sometimes for example said not  enough information provided but sometimes   would say

061you know our teachers do an incredible  job have students who are taking the class who   have just finished for example taking this level  class go to the lower level like I'm just giving   an example I'm not saying this was happening but  let's say English literature to English language   um just as an example U.S apus-2 to apus one some  students said you know I felt like sometimes the   students that were selected didn't look like  me or were white students I I couldn't relate   um and so that was something that we really  thought that as Colombia we were doing a really   good job of of our teachers selecting you know  students to come in to speak to other students   about what they're doing and I thought those  interviews with Miss Lam did was was great   for us

062to then give that feedback to our AP  teachers to make sure that the students that   we've selected that the students that we've chosen  to talk to are aspiring AP students represented   um other students another thing I would just  say you know the too much work thing is I I   get it many of us here on the Deus are parents  we have the struggle I just had my daughter you   know who's wrestling with that whole idea of  taking AP Spanish versus Spanish five the the   drop the drop deadline is this week in my school  where my daughter lives and and we're going I'm   Sorry Miss Lopez uh but we're going back and  forth in in trying to to to make that decision   um now again my daughter has a couple AP classes  our goal here at

063Columbia is never to say we want   a student to take the fourth fifth or sixth AP  class what we're looking for is to is to ensure   that students have the opportunity to take that  first AP class as well that's that's what we want   to do is we want to make sure students who may  have five or six honors classes but don't want   to take that that's too much work fear or I don't  know if I'll be successful fear to get them to   take that AP class that dual enrollment class and  so we really do appreciate our work with EOS and   talking with our counselors Ms Lamb mentioned  something I think was in Pro really important   she said the card and what EOS does is creates  every student who completes that survey almost   sounds like a

064baseball card if you will it has  the students data it has the student's GPA and   it also talks about who their trusted adult is and  then specifically their answer to those questions   and we give those to our counselors as we're  making their schedules so as the student might   just say I want to take these I mean I I feel  weird saying just these four honors classes are   just these honors classes that our counselors  and or our trusted adult who might be other   than the guidance counselor can then talk to that  student to see if you want to take that AP class   so I just wanted to interrupt there sorry miss  Lamb no we're doing this together this is great   yeah no I couldn't agree more um with everything  that principles of Interest has said and

065you see   on the right over here of just simply yeah the  students who are in these classes right now some   who I did get to talk to when I visited when  I asked them like what what made you decide to   enroll so you see the top five reasons there with  the top being I plan to take it before starting   High School also the fifth reason is it's just  part of the school culture and I wanted to point   those two out in tandem because I don't always  see that that it's a part of school culture and   I plan to say it before high school fitting into  the top five so just want to shout out you know   South Orange Maplewood because that is a great  thing to see that the other three that you see in  

066conversation with my parents or Guardian a meeting  with my counselor a conversation with a friend you   see how all of those are relationship based so  when principal Sanchez is talking about trusted   adults or their counselors can talk to them you  see how important that is because that's the third   reason that's the third most popular reason  a conversation with a friend is huge I always   say this to my partners like the students are  currently taking Advanced courses should 100 be   talking to the students who are currently not or  might have some apprehensions about it like that's   how we break down different stigmas and barriers  that students might have regarding their courses   um I know Frank had mentioned interviews that I  had with students I know from my own experience I   took APS history that confirmed for

067me that I want  to be a history major I also was the only black   student in the course so was that something that I  like was hyper aware of yes and did I do very well   in the class and on the AP exam yeah both of those  are true both of them hold space together but   it's very important when we're thinking about why  students are taking classes and are not thinking   of what is the representation that they've seen  and what in their like minds are also considered   like this person might be a AP student I don't  know I am and for every time I've talked to a   student one of my own students or talking at EOS  I always mentioned what makes you think that what   am I on your inside card you have all

068these  mindsets which lets me know that this course   that you're interested in I think you do really  well because you're interested in it so I can   keep trying to know this all day so let's go to  the next slide so we can keep going um here's   another great thing that EOS collects which is  students who are not participating in higher   level courses the specific barriers that exist  so this from 11th and 12th grade historically   underrepresented students of color who are not  participating specifically to the barrier and so   you see the yellow and the blue are separated  if I race I'll explain why also because I get   questions about that so the reason why why in  Asian students for this specific chart for CHS   are together is because those two groups are  the highest participating groups

069of CHS with ap   to make that clear so the other groups that  you're seeing for students of color is what   who are historically underrepresented  which at CHS is black and latinx students   just so that way you understand why those are  differentiated so you see that the highest   barrier is adult encouragement followed  very closely behind the welcome barrier   so don't encouragement and I say this to  all of the teams that I talk to is like   don't be upset if you feel like oh my gosh they  don't think they're a student like adults in the   school that we can't talk to because that's  not necessarily the case dog encouragement   can include anything regarding a student's  own personal experience with encouragement   and so what I always name is that's why the  importance of those Insight cards where students  

070are able to name who a trusted adult is or study  skills adult is is really important and especially   working in tandem with the counselors also I have  seen inside cards where a student doesn't name any   adult as a trusted adult or a study skills adult  and I always make sure that if I see that on an   inside card to bring that up to admin to say no  I'm noticing the student hasn't put anyone and   I think that's worth having a conversation about  also at the welcome barrier that goes right into   what we've mentioned which is I don't have my  friends in those courses I don't really know   the teachers in those courses I don't know if I  feel like I belong in such a class so I'm good   the benefits barrier that you see right

071here  on the left um really speaks to not necessarily   knowing the full breadth of if I take this  class here are some really great things that   can happen as a result maybe I now want to take  this second AP class next year maybe that's my   only because I take or that if I score like get  a four on this exam I actually could test out   in school from this class like this core class I  have to take as a freshman general knowledge is   just simply thinking I'm not really sure what AP  exactly it's going to do for me or what honors is   going to do for me or dual credit School access  really speaks to the actual system of applying   or registering or enrolling into a course so  usually when students are saying the school  

072access barrier they're just thinking it feels  really opaque or am I feel a little overwhelming   I'm not really sure what are the streams I  need to go into to make this happen for me let's go to the next slide so this is the result  of last year's work that I just need to shut off   the district team they've worked with and  the school team um and I'm going to try to   zoom in myself so I can see the picture a  little better to give you some context so   the blue bars that you're seeing by race and  ethnicity to your left here so you see right   here this is a snapshot from really this point  one year ago of who was enrolled in AP courses   the green and this was taken at the end of the 

073school year so this is a snapshot from June so   the green is white is expected right now that  we're in the fall we're going to get a new chart   and new data that gives us the exact numbers  and the exact percentages in the next month   but coming from June this is kind of the before  and after if you will of what this looks like so   looking at each racial and ethnic group you can  over here and you see that every group has had   an increase and I want to specifically name that  the two groups have the least amount of access   at CHS last year in the year before which is the  black and African-American students and Hispanic   students you see that there is an increase  respectively for each of them so we see here this  

074is going from 36 to 44 for black African-American  students and received for Hispanic latinx students   we went from 53 to 57 percent so in totality the  amount of students in color who are going to be or   should be in classes at CHS this upcoming year  and AP went up from 45 to 54 and specifically   those numbers here this time last year is 181.  this time right now should be 195 students Frank I don't know if you want to add anything to  that but I want to give a pause there well I just   want to say that I think that's attributed to  our AP teachers who have really spoken to our   students I think our partnership with you and our  counselors work and I will say also that although   we are having more students going into

075AP we are  not seeing the rigor go down as a matter of fact   um in 2023 we had 246 AP Scholars that's more  than 20 or 30 more than we had the year before   the average for AP Scholars was about 3.9 and  now is an average of four so not only are we   increasing our AP students we are also increasing  our students um uh um average so and and and and   the the ones that are doing really well in  AP uh you know I have an AP teacher here I'm   not going to say but uh we look at supervisors  and administrators at our AP scores we we ask   our teachers of course to go and look at  the data College Board does an incredible   um gives credible information to our teachers  about what they score

076what their students scored   and how they scored I was a former AP teacher and  I would look into I taught AP government and AP   European History and I would look at exactly  what century my kids did better this year than   last year multiple choice versus free response the  teachers have that but there is no pressure from   Administration on teachers about their scores  you know looking at the exact number from one   year to another what we really want is is that  idea of welcoming students into the classroom   and and I will say a that although we are proud  extremely proud of the number of students that are   that that are in our AP program and of course the  results that they're getting we are also looking   at our last week's uh our last month's um report 

077from from Dr Fergus and and we we understand and   we've already made uh some talks in The Faculty  uh meetings to talk about um some of the student   discussions about tokenism and some of the student  results from from those specific surveys too but   this is a whole picture um and I want to just say  that you know we are proud of these numbers but we   know we can still continue to increase the numbers  by also increasing the environment as well for the   students who are taking that that shot and that  chance so I just want to say thank you miss Lamb   to all of you um into like Frank's Point like  rigor does not decrease at all when you have   can you provide access providing access does  not decrease rigor it actually increases it   um

078as a teacher I've always said that  a rigorous classroom when there's not   a diverse array of lived narratives  and experiences and learning styles is   um and I think what this  is showing is just how PHS   let's keep going we've got a few more slides  left I want to make sure this so this is also   really showing what you just saw in the  last slide but just simply for this fall   um so these are the again the racial and ethnic um  group breakdowns for the percentage of each group   that are actually enrolled in AP okay so this was  coming from June so there could be some variants   um as course enrollments you know finish and  I'm just like principal Sanchez mentioned of   like Drop period Etc so the goal participation  rate last year was 50 and

079so you see that for   other five groups passed or surpassed 50 and  the black African-American group was almost   there at 44 that 13 that you're seeing in the gray  means of 13 more students from that student group   um have enrolled in the AP class that would  have hit the 50 that's what's happening okay um this is a slide and data that I truly can  spend a lot of time on but this is showing   the top program courses for students of color  by the just sheer number of students enrolled   to the right the top right over  here is from highest proportion the bottom left over here is for first time takers and the bottom right is showing for first-time  takers who are only taking one course   okay so there's some differentiation for each  of those okay

080so having I won't voice over too   much I think this is important to always see  in terms of what are Trends what are we seeing   um and where are there opportunities for  growth and I just want to point out that um   two years ago when we first found out or first  heard about AP African-American studies it was   a a program that just basically was coming out of  Columbia University I think there were like 12 or   14 schools that we're going to be part of it I I  called we call I had a couple other people call   um to try to be part of that and it had  just started and and we were closed out but   um when there was another opportunity for this  year to be in the pilot not only were we calling  

081they called us College Board actually was very  impressed with our numbers our growth and we are   now a college board National Record recognition  program award-winning district and they came to   us because they specifically although we were  knocking on their door they specifically wanted   our district to be part of this um and so it's  incredible and and I want to just thank the board   for supporting this as well as Mr Whitaker for  taking on this uh program it's it's you know it's   and our students who are taking it without  AP credit I just want to stress that that   as because it's a pilot these students  unfortunately will get from us of course   we will do that we will give them AP credit for  their GPA but they will not receive they will have   to take a

082test but this is just a college board  rule anytime they pilot an exam they do not give   AP credit to to students but ours we have you  know nearly 30 kids who want to be part of this   and are taking it and we thank Mr Whitaker for  doing that part of the training and um and we're   really happy about piloting and again this is just  because it's a pilot that's that's the reason so I   just want to point that out thank you you and  let's go to the next slide and this is just before you move forward Mrs Sanchez the  piloting program is really wonderful of   the African American studies but it certainly  won't be a pilot in the South Orange Maplewood   School District at Columbia High School we had  a teacher who spoke here

083last week at the board   meeting Mr Gaines who talked about him teaching  African studies here for a number of years and   also Columbia winning so many African-American  national uh titles that they began to have all of   the preliminaries for the state here in our school  district and we won nationally four or five three   or four times back to back so it won't be a pilot  here no that's you're absolutely right I was just   saying because it's a college board pilot that  they want unfortunately well these students will   not get the credit is all I was saying but  thank you that's not what I heard thank you all right thank you um so just to show the student  growth from so EOS actually worked with CHS back   in the 2012-2013 school year so that's why you 

084see it going the data going all the way back up   to about over 10 years ago now um and so I wanted  to show this to just illustrate the growth that   you see for each student group and also name a  point of growth as you see that for both Black   and Hispanic latinx students while their numbers  have grown tremendously respectively since 2012   2013 there's still a gap here if I'm looking at  my student groups and so that is something that   we need to pay special attention to and thinking  about with student Outreach and student belonging   in the classrooms what that looks like looks  like if we can keep going to the next slide and this is just even making it more  clear of just the two groups that have   the least amount of access to

085see  what the data has been since that   2012 13 school year and going into  the course requests for this fall right next slide please so this is going  to be the spring semester grade report   um for new and experienced um AP students so you  heard principal Sanchez give some information   um regarding a summary of the grades and so  I'm actually going to go to the next slide   for the sake of time and to kind of give some  more information here so what you're seeing is   a few different columns here so the total a lot  of the 12th grade students for each school year   21-22 you'll see over here then we have number of  students passing one or more courses AP courses   we're mentioning this is a percentage of students  passing one or more course and

086the average course   grade now this is coming from the district and  wanted to make sure it's noted if a student's   taking a class that's past fail this one they  will not be included in this data also there   is always usually a small number of students  where there's not enrollment data immediately   available when we get this data state which is why  sometimes the numbers do not completely total out   um so I just want to make sure that's clear but  really The Columns to focus on I want to show you   which is the percentages which breaks it down and  the course grade averages that we saw so you see   that's 92 percent for all 11th and 12th graders  and then we have it segmented two for students   of color who are first time takers and students  of

087color who are experience takers which means   they've taken an AP class previously and we see  the same two for white and Asian students as well   we see high percentage of passing one or more  course and you see the course GPA as well and   I know people are probably looking and saying I  am also seeing that there are some differences   here which there are and I often look at for  first-time takers experience for GPA with ap   um and the passing rate as well and just a note  from our pass and fail is not included in this   um but I always note this because often when  we're talking about this it's often mentioned   well what if the majority do not pass which I have  heard people say before and that's not the case   and more specifically there's

088another  slide that we're going to go to if we can hit that next slide there we go this  is showing by subject or greater area so the   green and blue bars are showing like first  time takers and experience takers by GPA by   content so that way you can see a even more  specific look of just straight up if you're   a first time taker if you're an experience  taker what some of the averages have been I just want to give some wait time so folks are  able to see that oh thank you I appreciate it   okay now I want to go to this next slide   which is showing from 21 22 to 22 23 which is  letter grade distribution for students of color   so for first time takers you are going to see  the blue bars

089illustrating it by the school year   so for first time takers the light blue is for  21.22 this dark blue is for 22.23 who receives   an a for this spring semester that we just had  now the green bar you're probably wondering   what is that this green bar is referencing the  letter grade percentage for experience takers   okay so this is for students of color who are  experience takers who are in the green bars here and first-time takers are represented in these  blue columns one thing to note is that if   you're looking at the grade distribution  which I often am looking at when talking   about students entering Advanced courses you  see that the vast majority have a a b or c   that one thing I did know is that while the  amount of students who have a d

090like went down   one percentage I did want to take note of like  this just because well that's a small number   that's six percent like five grades roughly  that is something that I just want to see and   considering pandemic I know there's context I  might not have school-wise but I just want to   make sure that that is noted and just reflect as  a whole and that this is one as I give you this   course letter grade distribution um as well as  gpas and Etc that it's really important I meant   to name this a little earlier is that this is one  part of looking at AP participation and belonging   for students and I wanted to make sure it's  considered that when we're looking at test scores   and quizzes I haven't read the sound of my notes  um

091the course grades aren't influenced by the   culture and environment of schools and that Claude  Steele who is a researcher education researcher   they researched the stereotype threat and that  students of color are uniquely influenced by   racialized Dynamics and cues and how that really  responds and ends up being that it can undermine   performance by taking over valuable kind of  energy when you're in such bases which is why the   support systems that exist within a school and the  education that resists that exists within a school   um is incredibly important for students  if we go to the next slide please   so I want to go through this kind of  quickly but this is just to show a couple of   um incoming students from AP are just showing  what they're interested in and also seeing that   hey they had a

092staff recommendation  here are their program interests   here are all the mindsets that the student  has here are some of the reported barriers   and this is a great student who is going  to be an AP now I'm going to keep it going this is a quote I'm gonna have to skip some of  these for a sake of time but this is a quote   from one student that we have from the survey  who is a rising senior a senior right now   um who was mentioning about their own  ability regarding grades and how they felt okay and we're going to skip over a  couple slides sorry everyone I just   want to make sure it's the sake of time  we can answer some questions for you just with this student I just you know it's it's  great that we

093share this with our faculty and our   staff members these interest cards not not only  with their account not only with their counselors   but when when you see a card like this and I I  know this student this is a student that I you   know probably would say hi to two or three times  a week during lunch duty or what what have you   during the day you read a card like this and you  sit with the student then during lunch and you say   hey what are you thinking about for next year  were you thinking about hey what about this AP   class and this student specifically AP music  theory or something to that effect based on   this interest card we had a great conversation  and then to see that student take that class   was just awesome just

094to see that that that magic  happen um and that to someone you know and I love   the idea that the trusted adults you see are two  faculty members here you know I know they talk   to them too but um that's just uh this ability of  doing the surveys and then being able to have that   at your at your at your fingertips um whether  it's administrators or teachers really makes   um some really special moments and the students  just like light up when they they know you   you know about them so I just want to thank you  miss Lamb for that opportunity oh of course and I   just want to we'll keep it going I think there's  a couple more and I may have just get a couple   of them I'm so sorry I'm gonna have to

095skip this  Insight Card for time because I do want to make   sure um this is also a rising senior or current  senior um reason why I made sure these quotes   were included is because it's optional students  do not have to give a quote if they do not want to   um and this is me as a teacher of a student is  willing and wants to tell you how they feel or   their words you need to listen and pay attention  to them so I wanted to make sure those quotes   were included but yeah and go right to this next  slide just how to provide and what are we doing   to provide support for first-time takers and so  these are some and this is a non-exhaustive list   there is more um of what is really important for  students

096I am going to highlight a few of them   one is making sure our students are involved like  I know there are students right now who are board   representatives and I always say students should  always be at the Forefront of leading Outreach   and being able to have their voices heard  with this thinking about student mentors for   first-time takers students need students who are  really worried about Advanced courses need to be   able to have the face time and the actual time  to talk to students who have done it before a   lot of the interviews I was doing with students  I recall going into a I think it was usgo class   and talking to a few students and asking them  like you know how have you felt like what was   your first like few months like and one

097student I  think they're a senior this year had mentioned you   know I just I was kind of going through it I was  afraid to ask folks and I was like would you have   would have made it like more fun for you in those  first couple months because they're doing great   um at the time they visit them they said if I was  able to like talk to someone who'd just taken the   class before made me feel better about that first  Unix that first unit was really getting me that's   crucial and that's incredibly important so that's  what I'm talking about those student mentors those   student-led study groups um I always said first  time taker cohort convenience like making a big   deal for students who are entering first time  in an advanced course like have settings for   them

098to talk and convene that builds up that like  positive Association and also just a place where   they can just talk freely um I always mentioned  to schools just always looking at what is the draw   policy what is is there an amount of affirmation  that students and families get to have and take   in terms of transparency and how it goes I  always mention this too for first-time takers   like being able to receive check in touch points  within those first 60 days of school especially   in conjunction with the drop policy I know that  can look very different based off of the school   or the district but it's so important that  students are able to have those touch points   um this is another which people have opinions  about and that's okay it's thinking about homework   readers and exam

099retake policies that has been  something that's been proven to help students   um and that is something that I always  mention that people should always be   able to have conversations about and the  philosophy is behind it and keep going and this is regarding kind of EOS tools  period and how they work in conjunction   with what is happening already at the school  so trusted all conversations you saw on the   inside cards faculty can be named this past year  I emailed faculty and let them know specifically   you were named as a trusted adult you can log  into Portal and see who those students are   the ability for inside cars to be utilized  by trusted adults faculty admin and by the   counseling department is huge because that is  a lot of information that you can receive that   might take

100a lot longer to receive if it's not  in an Insight Card for example there are students   who put on their Insight cards like oh yeah like  sign me up I'm interested in this class sign me up   now some schools really do do that they're like  yep we'll sign them up others might not do that   but the guidance team can have a conversation with  that so you're like hey I saw on your Insight Card   that you said you were really interested in  just being automatically signed up for econ   is that still something you want to do do you want  me to include anything or do I have a conversation   with anyone before you do that or are you good and  you see how that can help move the conversation   along with students like I said student-led 

101recruitment events whether that's like a showcase   class visits student panels uh a really nice touch  I've seen is family notification letters like   mudding families no hey your students took the  survey they're interested in taking this course   here are some mindsets that were included in that  we have some teacher recommendations like really   hyping it up and making it like how much for that  it is and the opportunity for students to do their   thing and show out their intellectual curiosity in  their content um and also this last one which has   just been being able to hold like Outreach events  for first-time students um returning students is   huge I always believed as a teacher that families  are immediately impactful in students choices   and their mindsets and thoughts about tool and  classes and so I believe it's really important  

102that families have the transparency and all  the opportunity to engage and ask questions   so that was a little longer than I wanted to go  because I know y'all have a meeting but I want   to leave it here for any questions that you might  have for principal Sanchez and myself and I would   do my best to answer when I can and I might have  to uh refer to you principal Sanchez if there are   any questions thank you so much to you Jessica  and to you principal Sanchez our first question   will be from board member Wingfield then I saw  Bournemouth Espino then Dr telesford and we'll see   thank you so much Miss lamb for the presentation  and also principal Sanchez um I just wanted to   lift a couple of things up from the presentation  um and then

103I have a question at the end um so   principal Sanchez first and foremost I really  appreciate that you interjected and mentioned that   um the point about maintaining rigor as we  continue to increase enrollment I think that   um it's often suggested with initiatives  like this where there's an effort to   increase underrepresented students in  enrollment in advanced courses that   um that there is a potential to compromise  the rigor or the Integrity of the courses the   curriculum itself and I think that initiatives  like this prove that that just isn't the case so   I appreciate you drawing that that point um I also  appreciate you mentioning and sort of crosswalking   a little bit with the report that we all heard  a couple weeks ago from Dr Fergus I think that   that's a really important place for us to um 

104to dig into at this point and our partnership   with equal opportunity schools because I think  that eos's mission around increasing access and   enrollment is a really important one and it's also  really important that the data showed us tonight   that as we increase excuse me as we allocate  intentional resources to our underrepresented   students our black and latinx students and we  create a program and partner with somebody like   EOS that is very very unapologetically driven by  that mission that we also saw enrollment for our   white and Asian students increase as well and so  as we are working to support a particular group   we're not taking anything away from other groups  in the process and I think that's something that I   believe Dr Fergus mentioned um and it's important  to note that this data proves that to be

105true   um but I also appreciate you mentioning the the  tokenism and other sort of uh anecdotes that Dr   Fergus shared around lack of belonging um in our  AP courses because I think that at this point in   the partnership with EOS it's a really important  piece to dig in on uh because as we continue to   increase enrollment for black and latinx students  we need to simultaneously ramp up our efforts to   understand what they're experiencing from a social  emotional standpoint in those classes and I think   that many of the anecdotes that were shared in Dr  fergus's report were extremely concerning because   students are clearly feeling the pressure from  initiatives like this to step up and take the   challenge and are finding themselves oftentimes  in those classes as one of only and often finding   that to be a

106really less than positive experience  and so a couple of things I wanted to ask about   or sort of encourage us to dig into one is the  really valuable data that we're Gathering from   students in these student Insight cards around  trusted adults because I think we've talked   for years on this board about the importance of  leveraging relationships as a a key indicator of   Student Success and I know from my own personal  professional work in New York City one of my   job responsibilities for a number of years was to  head up this partnership with New York City public   schools and what we often found when we did we  dug into these Insight cards in a massive way is   that the the names of trusted adults were actually  represented a very small pool and that those names   repeated

107themselves over and over and over and  over again and so while you may have a faculty   of 500 staff members the number of names that  showed up on those cards was actually very very   small and so I don't have personal information  about how that plays out for Columbia High School   I saw that play out across about 110 schools  in New York City but what I would encourage us   to do is to look at that not only to see what  how big is our pool of trusted adults but also   who are those names that are showing up on these  inside cards again and again and again and how can   we create a a community of those teachers to come  together of a forum a round table for those folks   who show up again and again and

108again to share  what exactly it is that they do intentionally   um and where we need to start digging into where  that's not happening because ultimately if we're   sending our kids into classrooms with adults who  either intentionally or not are not doing those   things I think that we are having sort of one foot  on the gas and one foot on the brake in terms of   many of our efforts I I think the last thing  miss Lamb I wanted to just posed to you as our   partnership with EOS is maturing is I know that  equal opportunity schools back in 2018 19 did a   huge huge survey and body of work around um around  student belonging and produce the report measuring   what matters and I know that some of that showed  up in the report at the very

109end as you talked   about a couple of just policies and procedures  that really help kids experience success but   um and I'll send this to my board colleagues and  for the public this is available publicly on the   Equal Opportunity schools website but as you  look at the five indicators of belonging some   of them are a lot less technical in nature and  so when we talk about what it means to cultivate   classrooms that Center culturally relevant  teaching that really Center the identities of   the students in the classrooms not just the  majority of students in the classrooms when   we create classroom communities that are where  students actually feel comfort asking questions   where not only students are in a classroom where  the teacher believes they can do well but their   peers believe they can do well and then also 

110classrooms where teachers are engaging students   in really healthy and productive conversations  about race those don't show up necessarily in   regulations around retake policies right those are  to me um bodies of work that I think our district   and our high school could probably use some real  support and so I think my question for you Jessica   is where is eos and its ability to provide some  professional development or to perhaps work with   some of these trusted adults who are showing up  again and again and again to leverage the wisdom   and the skill that already exists at CHS to try  to create a more coherent and cohesive experience   across those AP classrooms so glad you mentioned  that um one to answer your question of what you   said about staff I completely agree um and I've  seen examples of

111that I wanted to make sure I   gave you all the data point that I know principal  Sanchez you know the total amount of staff within   the high school overall 103 staff members were  named as trusted adults this past school year 200 um faculty members so 103 total um is what I  saw on the cards themselves and I'm glad that   you mentioned that because with phase two  which is the phase that CHS is in there's   actually four workshops that are included in  phase two uh last year was hard because of   our model with visits and this year I'll be  visiting at least four times which is great   so what will happen is there's actually four  workshops that are directly connected to each of   those different tenants that you named so talking  about what a student-centered teaching

112what is   called culturally relevant teaching looks like  what is actually the not just the ethos behind   student belonging and courses but what does that  look like Beyond just having the student in the   class itself because we know that that is not  necessarily going to be correlating to student   belonging so there's actually four of those  workshops which is great because I'll be able   to work with principal Sanchez When I visit in  terms of if I get to do it by Department if I get   to it by admin and then staff and we'll be able  to figure that out but that's what I personally   enjoy a lot about phase two is that usually phase  one is we need to take the survey and kind of get   our base down phase two is really about when you  have

113students coming into your courses you have to   make sure that you are creating the environment  to actually allow that and it's not just simply   them being there but what are the things at hand  in terms of collaboration or student Voice or   actually students being able to name and be in  a space that feels good and rigorous to them   and I just I'm sorry I remember Wingfield I  just I just want to say that the the workshops   you're describing I hope that all chhs teachers  have the opportunity to participate not just AP   teachers because the kind of classrooms that  you're describing where students feel a sense   of belonging feel encouraged to really take on  challenges would I think especially connected   to what Dr Fergus said would really benefit the  experience that we hope to see for

114all students   not just in AP classes absolutely and every  Workshop or PD session we brought miss lamin   or EOS was for the whole staff and that's really  important because we have incoming AP teachers   right but also um I want to thank also our  senior leadership team and Dr Taylor you know   uh specifically outside of EOS but it's going to  be folded in to the COS we have an equity team   that's being formed this year there's a specific  things that we're going to be talking about   um when we do our Equity walks to look at  classrooms that are we'll have students as well   as faculty members looking into best practices  of of culturally responsive classrooms not just   curriculum but the actual room and also just  so you know the trusted adult uh data was used   outside

115of AP so I I want to thank Mr carrig and  and Rocio for working very hard in a sidebar that   we hope that you will support for our freshman  huddles so even our earliest students when we're   looking at our teachers who will be part of the  Freshman huddle who'll be part of these programs   we the teachers volunteered we also use that  data of trusted adults to to see who we want   you know who would be best representative of  that so a lot of this work is really Beyond AP   it's about Columbia and it's about our student  environment so I just wanted to point that out uh thank you for the thorough presentation um I  appreciate it uh there was one thing that we had   asked Dr Taylor from the cni committee that  didn't seem to

116be in the presentation which   was a accounting of how many children start  AP in the school year but do not finish it   um so that they might want to you know do they  start out but then drop down and um I don't know   we had actually reminded you about that and it  still wasn't in there so um I'd like to know   when we will be getting that information because  I think that is important for us to understand   yeah that's very important and also Dr Taylor  Made Me aware of that so thank you Dr Taylor   we have new data coming in the next month  which is for the school year because we do   know that between the end of school year going  into the summer and with drop policy how that   can change so I can

117answer your question  two ways one for this year as like right   now snapshot should be available in a few weeks  where we actually do provide nutrition report   um I remember speaking to Anthony director of  guidance last year and what we're trying to work   on is making sure that the date that the attrition  report is actually ready actually reflects when   the draw policy occurs from last year he noticed  like we actually this is still a little behind and   not a real snapshot of what it's like post drop  policy and Etc so that's something we're working   on for this year to make sure it's relevant now  with the actual semester reports itself is harder   to do honestly because there are students who  are taking more than one course so it's multiple   grades so the attrition report is

118actually the  best way to do kind of a side-by-side comparison   um I will also name that the guidance  department is also has the most I would   say updated information so that way along  with the attrition report that we'll have   available hopefully by the end of the month  for sure of October but to kind of have that   alongside with guidance to be able to  cross-check and make sure that students   from transferring in or transferring out  and any draw policy can be accounted for   great thank you so I'm we'll be looking  for that soon yes I did make that request all right thank you again for the presentation  um I guess I have questions like I looked at   the many of the the top courses and I saw that  most of those courses were at the humanities  

119so I'm interested in understanding um what  work um are we doing in the high school to   increase the numbers of low-income low-income  in students of color in the math and sciences   so it unfortunately most AP courses are in the  humanities right so I just want to point that   out for social studies for example the um  you know you you I think there's at least   nine social studies courses as opposed to  how many um math courses we offer so that's   just one element but to to get to it um computer  science is something that we're really focusing on   um as a course to increase in our stem numbers  in addition to that we are making some changes in   our science program to have students feel more  comfortable in joining the AP for example AP   Chemistry we're

120asking students to actually a lot  of times the students came back to us letting us   know that they had no um experience in chemistry  before that say they would take AP Chemistry and   then they felt that their scores would be low and  many high schools you would take chemistry honors   first and then AP Chemistry so we kind of started  that as an aspect to an idea of a track that if   we changed some of the honors courses that go  not that you have to take honors but some of   the pathways before you take an AP right now we're  also considering to to add AP pre-calculus it's a   brand new course that college board is is offering  it started this year we didn't sign up the first   year we wanted to see what it looked like

121because  AP Physics one was something that college board   had offered about I would say 10 years ago and  they would say it was in lieu of physics honors   and the scores were were very low across the  state of New Jersey and across the country so   um right now our stem supervisor is looking  at kind of like revamping the the ages that   students take some of these science courses so  predominantly it was biology then they would take   physics and then they would take chemistry but  it wasn't like physics first I think sometimes   you might see some school districts do  a physics first but no math we weren't   offering that we were offering physics but with  a math that they would really need to be like in   um to take Algebra 2 and that might not be

122where  they were when they came here so we noticed that   a couple years ago when I got here and our new  stem Supervisor has started that change this year   so I think with that you'll start to see more  AP science classes we're really pushing as you   know last year we created a a not created but  really in reinvigorated our career pathway for   um TV and studio and video and our goal  is to do the same with computer science   this year so now we'll have four years of a  computer science program students can take an   intro course their first year or if they're  very competent and can do it over the summer   um they can go to AP Computer Science principles  as a freshman or AP Computer Science a as a   sophomore and then we have

123already a next class  after that which will be cyber security so with   we have that's one of the goals that we're doing  um something I think that is important is that   we've been blessed with a very uh supportive HR  uh Department we've hired more teachers of color   in the past two or three years at Columbia  High School and as we do that we have more   AP teachers of color our AP Computer Science  is a great example of that incredible scores   and not just of color but also gender is something  that we focus on there as well so those are things   that we look at but I do think that unfortunately  when you see the extra numbers is because there's   so much more Humanities courses that are offered  by the college board so that's kind of

124that   produces that slam yeah I would also add to what  you were your question and an answer to that is   I went back to look at the courses that had the  highest proportion and the most popular and on   the most basic level typically yes Humanities do  offer more sections but also I there are I've seen   the stat recently of just black latinx students  are grossly underestimally underestimated in terms   of going into the math and sciences and there's  many studies that go into why um one big thing   is just and I think Frank you're talking about  how you're kind of trying to rectify in terms of   courses and kind of their sequences is often math  sometimes science as well but math in particular   um if there has been tracking if there's been  anything in middle school

125that kind of can section   students off by math can have Gravely um not  really great results for black and latinx students   um because it just becomes much more difficult to  get into an advanced math course if it's had such   a rigid structure which I have seen at many other  schools and have had to have conversations about   you can't tell me that black and latinx students  don't like math and that's the reason why they're   not in there because we know that's not the  case so interesting thing about CHS is that   for the Sciences so AP Bio AP Chemistry AP  environmental science and AP Physics one   um two out of those four classes so the AP  Chemistry and environmental science are two   of the five courses that have the highest  proportion of students of color both of

126them   are 45 AP Bio is right underneath that was 43 the  lowest for the Sciences currently is AP Physics 1   algebra based at 30 percent now with math and  computer science so science there is there is   a representation that is not translating right  now to math and computer science so the highest   um representation of students of color in  math in computer science currently is AP   stats at 32 percent the lowest is AP Calculus  a b with 19 AP Calculus BC AP Computer Science   a and AP Computer Science principles are all  in the 20 respect to weight 23 27 and 26 so   I think that what you're saying principal Sanchez  I keep saying Frankie and principal Sanchez um is   important in terms of thinking of how curriculum  and structuring and that goes also into outside   the

127high school into the entire District of  looking how that's been because that is something   that historically happened in many districts  which then of course is the reason why you're   seeing a lot less representation of black latinx  students in math and computer science so I'm glad   CHS is not having that in Sciences but in math  and computer science that's incredibly important   especially considering if students want to get  into fields that are heavy math and sciences and   you're going to college that's a lot of other core  contents that you have to take on to get to school   and the financial implications I can  have for students as well absolutely   with computer science doc tell us where I  just want you to know we we work with soms   um our our computer our robotics  team we want them

128to to actually   work at the high school so we we offer them our  lab so um and specifically they have a Girls   Club as well like a specifically girls team and  that's something we really want to push so that   those students feel comfortable at Columbia High  School they come back to Columbia High School and   we push that part of our curriculum too so it's  it's been a very fruitful partnership with Psalms   yeah board member Duvall Wilson okay hi thanks  for this great presentation so I want to know   um if the supports that are listed on slides  29 and 30 which of those if not all of those   are being implemented in the school or plan to be  implemented in the school and one of the things   I'm zeroing in most on is the Family Outreach 

129and supports as we just saw that a quarter of   students are inspired to take AP because of  their communication with their families and   55 percent of students said that they did not  take an AP class because of adult supports it   was not delineated between teachers and  staff and parents but we could assume   that parents are part of that 55 reasoning so  I'd like to know which of the items on those   slides or things that the district is doing  and or plans to do in the future thank you   yeah so I have uh those slides in front of me  they're not on there but I just want you to know   the trusted adult conversations are happening  how we use our survey lists is that the slide   we're talking about right is is happening as  well student-led

130recruitment events happen   every year as well the family notification letter  signed by trusted adults we have not done yet and   the specifically on the next slide where it says  student receiving a check-in is is happening next   week so that's for something new that we're  doing specifically this year um we don't have   um summer camp we we've done for the past two  years based on student interest so just that's the   first bullet right on the next slide some classes  though this year didn't run just because we didn't   have enough students but we did offer it for free  and so we think uh curriculum and instruction for   that we do have when it says AP honor stool  student ambassadors we have something we call   AP core where we have students kind of running  a um what's it

131called a study groups Miss Hicks   facilitates that student mentors for first time  takers one of the things that we really pushed   for this year this is happening is that we have  um Miss Hicks supervising as you know she's one   of our Mac counselors but she's also this year  now running National Honor Society and so the   National Honor Society meetings were just held for  the first time last week and these are the things   that they're talking about and to get service  hours specifically student-led study groups again   we we mentioned this one of the things that I was  mentioning before when we talked about having more   uh teachers of color teaching AP classes what we  then see too is what we really want to encourage   is more Tas uh Sparta I mean smart excuse me  I was

132just thinking my daughter has it she's   a TA this year it's something I've never seen  before before coming here but my daughter has   one she's a TA as well Columbia High School has a  real Rich tradition of Tas teacher assistants so   a teacher so a student has taken AP US History to  their senior and they're instead of going to study   hall they're going to help one of their their  former teachers as a TA and and what that does   is I don't know if any of our students here have  had classes with Tas our student reps ASA or Gwen   can kind of talk about that it it really I when I  observe classes I love it it's to see that type of   um relationship and it would be very helpful if  we see more students of

133color as Tas and I think   that's where Miss Hicks has been very important  in leading that so yes we have student-led study   groups I just want to point that out uh first time  taker cohort convenings we have not had that yet   we have looked at our drop policy and yes we have  made changes to our drop policy and then student   receiving a check-in touch Point within the first  60 days we're actually doing at the first 30 days   so I just wanted to point that we have not done  a homework or redo exam retake policy we also   want to add um so I'll be visiting at least four  times this year so one of the things that I will   be doing while I'm there um is continuing to talk  to staff and students and see like

134what are the   systems that we currently have what can actually  be done and with your specifically the family   um letters EOS we actually do have templates  that schools can customize to their liking to   help take the lift off if there's a kind of a  sense of oh my goodness I need to create this   ladder and et cetera we do have templates so  that way it's easier um for admin and staff   to use them uh just one quick thank you for  that that was great and then specific first   time taker Family Outreach event that was the  only one you missed because I was keeping track   so just curious is that yeah that was on the  second page no we have not had a a specific   family specific first-time Family Outreach  event yeah yeah but I think

135that sounds yeah   we can definitely work on that and do that thank  you Partners who have done similar work and know   some other PDS where schools have done that  where they've always been gracious in Sharing   what that's look like their financial Logistics  to make that happen yeah and just so uh we did   do that with students though last year we had um  uh panels and we made available students to come   uh in the black box theater to talk to students  about AP Club but we didn't do it with parents ready to have where was this held black spot the  black box theater yes oh I thought the school was   closed okay yeah no during during the school year  during the school during the school day actually I just have one quick question and then  um

136because I haven't had to ask questions   um so side 20 has showed the percentage of 11th  and 12th grade students of color and low-income   students who passed one or more courses  decreased from the 2021-2020 school year   from uh the percentage in 2021-22 to 22-23 do  you have any insight as to why we saw a decline   amongst and it was for both the first time takers  and the experienced takers um inside 20 I believe what what year was the oh it's slide 22 for  seeing the percentage Oh no you're fine just   yeah that's the percentage of students passing one  or more I'm saying what year was the the high 2020   21 22 for first time takers students of color and  low-income students it was 92 percent in 21 22   and then it was 77 in 22.23.

137can I chime in okay I  think I heard the answer from out there as well I   think that the number of takers grew significantly  is that what because in parentheses there are the right yeah I I could look into that too if because what we do  if we look at the AP score specifically sometimes   the they're um their statistics or data might be  that they'll tell us how many uh students have   two tests how many students have three tests and  so what I have seen sometimes in different years   is if we see the percentage of students going from  two tests to three let's just say on average right   two tests to three tests the the score might go  down because obviously they still have two weeks   to have let's say three tests as opposed to 

138two they're still 14 days to study right and   so what you might see is a decrease in that so  although what you're saying is we see a decrease   of passing what we don't see is how many times  is it does it say that you're taking one test   one or more one or more so I would have to  do is I just have to look in the the College   Board data that that might be revealed in there  what we do see by the way too just Nationwide   um the the peak of test scores was 2020 um and  perhaps because students took it at home that   year I don't know uh but you know in obviously  in May of 2020 um students were not in school   and they and college board tried to make a  hybrid exam

139um if you could imagine um tests   when they make a college board test it takes like  a three-year process of field questions and things   like that that go into it they had to create a  test that year that only went to two-thirds of   the curriculum um and so they were kind of doing  it you know flying the plane landing what's it   called Landing the plane as they're building the  plane or whatever it is um and so that was the   year of the highest test scores probably in the  last decade so um we'll we always take 2020 and   yeah that's what I'm saying yeah 21. so I have  to just look into that Madam president we'll get   the answer to that for you and put in an upcoming  Friday packet thank you for that question no

140thank   you so much and what's the slide number  again slide number two um 22 right now   yeah 22. you're okay and the only thing I was  gonna add is um it has been interesting because   I see this for every partner school and District  I have um and what I have seen for quite a few   for 21 22 22 23 is still this where I've asked  them personally I was like I only have like my   inferences I can give versus School context and  if people have continued to name that that year   um with coven and just kind of trying to  get things back to their kind of feeling   of being on track can look a little different so  I don't want to put anything out there of that but   um it's been interesting to hear different 

141schools and how they've had to look at that data I would just say um just one quick glance at it in  that second row for a number of students passing   one or more course um the number of first-time  takers definitely went up significantly that   might impact why the percentage of those of  those passing went down because of course as   we wanted we expanded the universe but we'll  give it more of a look as well thank you okay one more question and then um okay well  let's let uh board member about the money if   you have a question and then okay all right so  I did have a question about the the programs   that the the school is using but I guess you  did get that list can we have I guess some   participation rates not

142like right now but is  that something that you can start recording so   that we can understand how many students are  actually participating in those programs and   I guess what can we do to if numbers are lower  see how well we're doing with those programs yes so things like student mentors and   the check-ins how many students  are participating in those programs so my questions about the uh the student cards  that you have for you know for display here you   have a couple of cards that are for the  students so my question is do you have   one for every student who in the high school  every student that participated in the survey we saw like 59 of students took the survey right  so there's a significant portion of students who   did not take the survey um an

143Insight Card can  be generated now the difference that you will   see though is that if a student didn't take the  survey what you'll only see is what was really   generated by The District's providing data so for  example a star reading score or GPA or if they had   a teacher recommendation even if they didn't take  the survey like that can appear however all the   other information of like if they had if they took  the survey I trusted it at all or if they didn't   list and trusted at all or their course interest  isn't present so everyone who takes the survey   you get an Insight Card and that's populated and  if you did not take the survey you can still get   a card generated for you it's just not going to  contain all of that information because

144you know   so so I I guess my recommendation would do sorry  my other thing is it did not take the survey at   all and like it was because a parent did not want  them to that will never be generated as an Insight   Card just to the caveat to add so I I mean I would  assume that our goal is to have a hundred percent   of the kids have a card because I mean this is a  great card because in one snapshot you can yeah   I mean without even knowing who these people  are and by reading this card I can say who is   more inclined towards one you know whatever stem  Humanities you know want to take AP don't want to   take AP trust Etc so I think this is a this would  be very desirable

145for every student to have one   but I don't know how to do that that's a different  problem I mean that's where you know the experts   come in but it would be fantastic to have one  for every student not just people entering you   know uh they wanting to take AP and only 59 uh  obviously there are you know if parents say don't   take it you know that's a different thing I  I I I would assume that would be a good uh   goal to kind of strive for no absolutely it's it's  about you know we we have to balance instructional   time and what we try to do is we do find this  to be very valuable um unfortunately I believe   that whatever week we set aside for it uh there  was an issue I don't remember what

146it was uh but   we we like to do it um in a class like everybody  in English class does this today right and that's   and that's the goal um and so this year we we  plan to um do it in a specific class we we worry   about survey fatigue and that's why we've said hey  we're only doing two surveys a year it is eos and   then our sky or NJ sky or our our climate and and  culture survey at the end and that's and that's   important for us so yes um and I will say to to  miss Lamb's Point um those students who had you   know very high test scores and who met a certain  criteria even though they didn't do the survey but   they demonstrated AP uh potential that's what we  call it right

147AP potential uh they we we still use   that data provided we just didn't know what their  where um their hurdles were that the card provides okay thank you both so much we really  appreciate your time miss Lamb and thank   you so much principal Sanchez have a good night  bye thank you all appreciate it thank you thank   you thank you very much oh go ahead nope no  worries I have one more presentation just joking   um just joking no thank you  board members for your for your   um for your patience we know it's a very  important topic um and next we have um   that concludes my report we have Mr Burnside we  may have a few business administrators reports good evening I'll start off  with the construction update   um for the South Mountain Elementary and South  Mountain

148Annex schools uh the contractor is   completing the punch list and the new boiler at  the South Mountain Elementary school is going   to start up tomorrow and then the new boiler for  the annex is scheduled to start up on October 13th   at the Marshall School the steel has been  erected and they're currently installing a   second floor decking and roof deck the masonry  wall installation has begun and they will begin   installing roof drains next week I have Montrose  that's still scheduled for summer of 2024 and at   the Columbia High School the demolition in the  b-wing is completed the rough-in of electrical   and piping for the new b-wing science labs  is underway and the demolition in the pool   area has begun this week and tonight we have the  award for the Maplewood Middle School and South   Orange Middle

149School Construction and that's  going to be for Bennett Construction Company that's all I have remember Eckert um thank you Mr Burnside um I just had a couple  of questions regarding Transportation because you   didn't cover any of that I'm just curious when  the board can expect to see a capacity report   that includes how many buses the cheered routes  breakdown of students on each bus total number   of routes I know that obviously it's a moving  Target as you have made many many improvements   although I know there are still a couple  that still need ironing out but I just think   knowing when we'll get that  would be helpful and then   um I think one thing that I would just love to  understand not for tonight but for the future is   you know we did you all did so

150much work  going to the board of school estimates to get   um you know the funds to to increase  Transportation I would just like to understand   how we plan to track and attribute Transportation  costs based on III School assignments just so that   we can better understand the financial impact of  transporting students as part of the initiative   I know as I understand it we are now also  transporting students that aren't part of III   but the assumptions made on their the grades that  they're in could help kind of parse all of that   out I just think that would be important for the  board and also the community to see at some point so and Dr Taylor you feel free to  disagree I think October 15th would   probably be the best day to start taking  that snapshot in time

151and start looking at   the capacity reports as you know we're  still adding children every day and I   think hopefully by then it'll settle down  what was the number you said you're at now yeah we're right now at 487 extra students   put things in perspective that's  an entire school where nobody walks   that's a lot of kids to transport and yeah yeah  I would just add for the Triple lie question um   so part of part of when I saw that question part  of my thought process is that usually the hours   group generates their end of year report early  spring where it has so so much so much specific   data around kids distance and all those things  that would help us to give you a better answer   than we probably could with just the data that we  have

152currently we can give you an estimate based   on where we are now but a check-in in the spring  when that report is complete or requested that   report is done earlier they they hold the report  because they're still adding kids all year long   now and I appreciate that I think that  would be more of like a longer term   solution I wouldn't obviously expect it tonight  tomorrow there's so much going on with it but I   think because I know that data is going to be  coming from many different sources right elves   group has a ton of that um and then you know  thinking about how we triangulate the data   from PowerSchool versus trans you know I'm  certainly not the expert in that but I think   as we can as II continues we continue to add  more students

153and also continue to transport   more students I think it was like to really  understand the financial implications of   what you know Senate where we're sending  students and you know how much money we   are also asking our taxpayers to to 100 I I  think that's a great a great planning tool   especially when we're year over year right we  keep on pushing kids out the 12th grade and   whoever they're backfilled with will be possibly  new will not possibly they'll be triple light   students who may require Transportation so  we're definitely it's definitely a good idea um and I just want to say adding  on to that thank you Regina I agree   um we should have a way to track that  in-house so that we're not depending on   our outside Consultants who who knows  how long we'll have them

154I don't know   um also I'm just curious you said Bennett  construction is um being awarded MMS or or   middle school I'm just curious did that come in at  budget under budget how are we doing on the budget so the base bid was 20 million 967 thousand  dollars and the budget Target number was   21 million three hundred fifty thousand  so it was under by 383 thousand dollars   which allowed us to award the  alternate for five hundred thousand board member right um yeah in regard to Transportation has me  all twisted because if we still had our bus   drivers and our bus fleet we probably wouldn't be  experiencing the lateness that we're experiencing   every day nothing has really changed in terms of  what we're doing to transport our students but the   thing that's curious to me is when

155you brought up  the fact about um uh the financial uh implications   um I was wondering how our Board of school  estimate even got involved in our busing situation   because it's an expense item not a capital  item and I'm also trying to figure out between   um Rocio and the superintendent who said I  was told that that the the the the teachers   union negotiated the dismissal of the bus  drivers and you said that it was it was not   but I know that the the drivers are an expense  item so here we are making bad decisions bad   mistakes and I'm totally confused I left the  board I came back and I'm looking at this and   uh the financial implications the series and look  we're paying a whole lot for this failure because   that's what it is and I

156can't under these  children listening to the parents talk about   their children first experience on buses first  experience in the school it's a terrible thing   I'm just totally confused especially numbing the  situation of buses and what's happening in the   country that we would get rid of a perfectly  good Fleet of buses and excellent drivers who   have driven us for years and decades without  a hint of a problem and if they were they were   taken care of this is egregious and we're sitting  here like it's nothing the house is on fire and   we're asking if we smell smoke and I'm tired of  making that analogy we have to do something more to keep our number eight oh okay um border I don't  know who raising in first board remember about the   money and then and I need

157to seriously push back  against this this diatribe okay I mean this is we   are transporting 500 odd children more than what  we did last year this is a success story this is   not a failure story yes there are a couple of  bus routes that are not doing well and we've   added new bus routes I don't understand you cannot  have it's like saying you know what we've added a   brand new high school and on first day everything  is working fine it's not going to happen that's I   mean let's be realistic about what's happening  here it is not like we have infinite number of   people sitting analysts sitting out there building  spreadsheets in the transportation department it's   like one person why don't we increase that you  know maybe we should allocate some more money   and hire three

158more people there let's do that so  you know you got to admit when the when there's a   success it's fantastic we should applaud that  there are 500 more kids getting buzzing now   than they did last year and hiccups sure I'm not  denying that there are there are Becomes Of course   guaranteed there are buses that have never gone on  time for the last 10 days and we should fix that   but saying that the whole thing is a failure  is like that's I mean that's just ridiculous I need to push back a little over and uh there  has been a a very it's very upsetting to hear how   things have gone and we all understand that things  take time and nobody is expecting for the first   day to be that all children are there but for it 

159to be now day 20 what do we have to 15 17 20 and   we still have buses that are not getting there  on time getting there to and from on time is   and parents work being you know and losing we're  losing children you know like we've lost a few   children um let's be honest here this is not gone  as as well as we should and we need to acknowledge   that and and and apologize for the mistakes and  we need to hold the administration accountable   for what has occurred and as I've mentioned I  believe that we need to moving forward we know   that transportation is going to be a problem every  year at the beginning of the year we're going to   get a lot of phone calls to only have three there  are three staff members

160not one in transportation   but only have three trans staff members when we  know that this is an issue we need to make sure   the administration should be putting more people  down there on a daily basis until we until the   rush happens we do that for registration we need  to start doing it for transportation and it's   got to be a whole a whole a hands on deck approach  because right now this isn't good I don't know how   anyone could sit up here and say that this is good  this has not been good and um and I and I think we   owe an apology to the people who have suffered I  mean I relied on the bus with my child for years   and years and years and I couldn't if this was  the situation that was happening

161I wouldn't have   been able to work in our own District I would have  been late every day for school because of it so I   I do think we need to make sure that we are doing  better and hold we don't I think people need to   realize one other thing one other point I want  to make the Board of Ed doesn't control busing   we don't control like who makes the roots we  don't control who a lot of the parts of it   and I'm not saying we're not owning it I'm I'm  owning it but what I'm saying is we don't control   that that is on the administration we're not  making routes we're not doing that we're not   involved in the honest to God day-to-day operation  but what we can do and what we should be doing and  

162what I will say that I I commend us for doing  is being as honest as we can with the people   about what's going on and pushing back against  the administration when it is failed and I will   say that I appreciate that you know president Whit  letter and other members have really pushed back so I I just want to draw too much attention  but at the same time this is not an appropriate   forum for some of those comments that were made  particularly about the administration there's a   separate forum for that an executive session and  so I'd ask everybody to not go into that area   going forward for the rest of the meeting it's  just not appropriate to have a discussion like   that out here if we want to talk about Personnel  there's an easy Pathway to

163go about doing that   but this is not the area to do it in right and  I would I always wanted to make the point that   we cannot make any sort of qualified statements  about bus routes unless we're looking at total   number of bus routes how many of them are on  time how many of them are late and then we   can say something about that um if you're just  if we're going to look at one or two and then   say that's what is success or failure then we're  missing the we're missing the forest for the trees   and then what we as a board should be doing is  when the administration puts up um people for I   guess appointments to help out with Transportation  then we should be in support of them   um that is probably what

164we as a board owned and  when we don't support the administration when   they're trying to do that then we own any sort  of hiccups that we see with the transportation um questions for Mr Burnside not  statements from board members but   um my question for Mr Burnside so one thing  that we discussed in fft was regarding the   transportation department scheduling time with the  bus drivers to make sure that they're acquainted   with our staff that they understand what the  standard of expectations are I know that that   meeting was not able to occur prior to the start  of the school year can you confirm that we do now   have a meeting on the books for our bus drivers to  meet with the transportation department no I can't   confirm that I don't think it's been scheduled  yet okay um

165and then the second question I have is uh guarding the status of the federal audit so we're still getting requests for  more documentation I believe it was   just last Thursday I just sent four  more documents it's still in process   are there any more questions for Mr Burnside okay seeing no further questions um we will  now move on to the board president update   so the board would like to extend our heartfelt  congratulations once more to ASA Glassman on being   sworn in as a student representative for the South  Orange Maplewood Board of Education we're excited   to collaborate closely with both ASA and Gwyneth  to create a meaningful and positive impact in the   lives of our students so thank you both for being  here I know it's late so if you do have to leave   at any point

166feel free to to do so um this month  our schools are celebrating Hispanic Heritage   Month a time to recognize and appreciate the rich  culture and traditions of the Hispanic Community   the South Orange and Maplewood school district  has witnessed a growth in our Hispanic student   population over the past several years which  is truly exciting the board is fully committed   to supporting the needs of this community  through our policy initiatives the board is   encouraged by the work of the district's access  and Equity team and recognizing that our diverse   Community should be celebrated each day and  not just within a designated month this team   has developed resources that help our Educators  bring culture stories and perspective divs into   the classroom throughout the year so thank you  for that next week is National band Book Week a   week that

167raises awareness about the importance  of intellectual freedom and the right to access   diverse literary materials this evening the  board will vote on adopting a resolution that   reaffirms the board and District's commitment  to upholding every student's right to read this   resolution aligns with the advocacy efforts  of the New Jersey School Board Association   to enshine every student's right to read and our  official policies through the delegate assembly   we wholeheartedly understand the ongoing delays  in our bus services and we share the frustration   that both families and students are experiencing  the board has encouraged the district to provide   urgent And Timely Communications to parents  regarding Solutions and for Swift resolutions   of the issues the district sent out an email  today that the transportation department will   look through the week will work through the  weekend to make the needed adjustments

168to   the affected routes the board is committed to  ensuring that all students arrive and depart   from school on time and we are hopeful that the  forthcoming changes will achieve this outcome   this evening the board with the exception of board  member malisvena due to her conflict will vote   on establishing a Fergus implementation committee  during our special board meeting on September 18th   we received Dr fergus's final recommendations from  his Equity audit report totaling 23 initiatives   that the district must Implement by August 2026.  this represents a significant undertaking and the   board is committed to taking the initial steps  towards accountability for this important work   the Fergus implementation committee composed  of the entire board will play a crucial role   in overseeing The District's adherence to the  BPW settlement during the three-year monitoring   phase Dr fergus's recommendations serve as the 

169foundation for Building Systems Support structures   and behavioral changes that should have improved  the learning experiences and academic outcomes of   our students of color and over time helped to  narrow the achievement Gap that has persisted   within the district for far too long this will  be a collective effort that will take the full   engagement of every stakeholder in the district  and it starts at the top with the board I hope   that the board will vote in unanimously  to support the formation of this committee   please allow me now to read the board president's  statement for the record the school board meeting   is a business meeting in public and not a  meeting with the public oftentimes it may   appear to members of our audience that the Board  of Education takes action with very little comment   and in many cases

170a unanimous vote before a matter  is placed on the agenda at a public meeting the   Administration has thoroughly reviewed the matter  with the superintendent if the superintendent is   satisfied that the matter is ready to be presented  to the Board of Education it is then referred to   the appropriate board committee the members of  the board committee work with Administration   and the superintendent to assure that members  fully understand the matter after the committee   discusses the matter is it is then shared with the  other board members for consideration only then is   it placed on the agenda for board discussion and  action at a public meeting you will now begin our   first hearing of individuals and delegates this  evening thank you for coming in person and dialing   in by phone the South Orange Maplewood Board of  Education certainly respects

171they've taken the   time out of your busy day to address the board at  tonight's meeting we value public involvement in   our school district and we are eager to hear what  you have to say the board does have time limits by   policy and it will be enforcing those to enable as  many people to speak as possible each individual   will be given three minutes to speak please do  your best to stay within the time afforded to   you the first public comment period is limited  to one hour and the second public comment period   is limited to 30 minutes all inputs share with  the board of education is taken very seriously   and will inform future deliberations  and work by the Board of Education and   its committees we request that you please state  your name and town of residence for

172the record thank you so Rocio Lopez hello uh hello how are you uh Rocio Lopez   so mayor president AP Spanish teacher and many  other things right um I'm here today for I wasn't   going to talk about Transportation but I might  after what I hear because I gotta say if the   board members were told that we negotiated that I  think somebody's lying and if not they wouldn't be   you know a case in perk that went all the way to  perk and all the documents that are there but hey   I don't know what they tell you that's you know  I can only tell you what I know uh so Maya will   never negotiate any of their members out I want to  say that clearly and if I need to show my t-shirt I still have the hope

173that we're going to bring  back our transportation because it's a mess   it's a mess you're losing kids everywhere but  it's freaking out kids even having accidents   in the in the buses because they're too long  I mean the kind of things I heard is horrible   and you know the worst part I cannot call  anybody to see what's going on how can we help   we have pride so many people has Pride and  you're taking us for granted you all are   taking us for granted and I'm going to tell  you why and this is what I was coming to talk   like a week two weeks ago Dr Fergus  came here to make a presentation   and when I came into the room they told me I  couldn't sit down in those chairs because they   were reserved look how I

174feel I'm about  to tear I come to every board meeting   I represent the the largest stakeholder that  are with the kids and I didn't have a seat   research for Somaya I saw the president of  Oscar and you talk about access and equity I don't know who made that decision but I was  not invited by central office I was invited   actually by James Davies that told me we're gonna  have this and I say don't worry you know I go to   Every board meeting and you know I'm not lying I'm  here every board meeting except when I'm in Spain   even in my way to Spain I stopped here so  that's what I'm gonna say stop listening to   the people that are telling you Outsource  bring cheaper things that are not working   the schools are beautiful we're giving

175all  these things is not true things are not true   stop drinking the Kool-Aid we are the  people one-on-one with the kids every time   we are the ones that tell you the truth where  they have ones that suffer with the kids   when we're missing something we are the ones  that clean our classrooms when they're dirty and we take pride of it and when you don't  know many of the deals and the issues that   are happening in the district is because  we're taking them over and we're fixing it   what is the only thing that has been working  when you walk in a room and the teacher is   teaching that said walk out and you see that  nothing else works the way it's supposed to   work so I don't want to get upset but what  happened two weeks

176ago it's embarrassing so   may I was the only people that was not invited  for something so important and the disparity   where Educators we're Educators  for God's sake we're educators thank you Rocio why Patterson it's like why period conversion okay Tara abedin shine I don't know how to work is it on okay um I'm  Tara abenshine I'm a Clinton mom we're new to the   school we have a kid in kindergarten as well as a  first a kid who's in his first year at Montrose so   a Pre-K student we live near Montrose but we are  roughly two miles away from Clinton so we're a   busing family which we are very grateful for both  my husband and I work and my husband is disabled   so the sort of household structure cannot flourish  without a reliable morning routine we're

177on the   gray bus route and are the fourth stop among I  don't know I want to guess 15 to 20 stops I don't   I don't know that for sure today was the 15th day  of school so in theory we've had 15 days of school   15 bus rides home and 15 bus rides to school  one of those of those 15 trips not a single one   have the kids arrived on time and to hear you  say that that's a success is disgusting my kid   they're arriving 20 minutes late at a minimum and  some days this Tuesday included over they were in   over an hour late to school this does not affect  just bussing kids teachers are holding instruction   while they wait for the buses to arrive  therefore making this a problem for all kids   we know the

178start of school is an adjustment  we know this takes a bit for the bus to become   reliable but we're three weeks in there's no  positive trend indicating a potential end in sight   one instance I'd like to share this happened  last week my child was dropped off on an entirely   different road than where his bus stop is we  couldn't see where the bus was going we didn't   know he was dropped off the only reason I knew was  because I got a call from someone to tell me that   my kid was home the bus had never arrived I was  with another adult we had to chase the bus down   to get to the other child that should have gotten  off the bus with my kid not a success I also want   to call out that this is

179the same day that the bus  was seemingly lost children were on the bus for   90 minutes parents towards the end of the route  had no idea where their kids were we have no way   to contact the driver in an emergency the driver  has no way to contact us in an emergency nor the   aid that rides the bus and because the bus had  departed Clinton the school was not responsible   and can give us an update it was really scary  and quite frankly dangerous not a success   we have had two mornings where the bus  hasn't shown up at all leaving families   to scramble to get their kids to school families  are busy I mean many of you are parents you know   how it works you know how crazy the morning  routines are like I said we need

180structure   to flourish and you're taking that away from  us for you to say this is a success it's just   disgusting you're hurting Families Our Lives  exist outside of the seemingly endless bus   drama so my requests are as follows we need clear  communication how can families be made aware of   delays how we can't keep standing at bus stops  for over 30 minutes in the morning and again in   the evening my husband is disabled we just can't  do this we need more efficient and timely routes   get the buses to school safely and on time I grew  up on a bus it wasn't a problem I don't understand   so my question to you today is what is  actually needed in order to get our kids   to school safely and on time that's it thank you  thank you the

181next person up is Jeffrey Bennett I had a prepared speech but I'd also like to  address the board members as whose or have   displayed a lot of indifference to the  problems that people are going through   first board members have been criticizing  superintendents for the 12 years I've been   observing this board I'm including criticizing  superintendents for things that are totally   beyond their control so if you say that a  superintendent's conduct is unacceptable   in something or that he should apologize it's  par for the course and it's happened before   um we do have problems with buses being late  those are very significant they're unacceptable   but there are also problems which aren't exactly  lateness but it should also be addressed like   some kids are on buses for literally an hour  each morning and afternoon um some kids are   picked

182up at 7am that's not acceptable um  you also have kids who are just below the   distance threshold who aren't bust at all and  their parents might be under a lot of stress   um there are also messes here which are directly  related to the transportation department for   instance like we have a lot of reports of bus  drivers not being given routes my route has been   on time this year but we did have one day with  us up and the bus was 20 minutes late because the   bus driver wasn't given a route um there's also no  communication that's also a direct Transportation   problem we've been told that you know almost  500 more kids are riding buses this year   um as if that's overwhelming but we should bear in  mind that last year the buses had over 500

183empty   seats and we've added 11 at least 11 new buses  which is the capacity for over a thousand students   um there are cars it's causes here which are  underlying like we do have a hard job versatrans   does make Roots like it's all over their website  that they can make Roots but sometimes they have   a problem because the roots they can make have to  be very inefficient because of how the triple I   assigned students presentations on the trip alive  have always emphasized the home to school distance   which is important but what also matters in  terms of busing is not how far kids are from   their school but how far they are from each other  I.E kids going to the same school think about it   it's easier to Bus kids who are two to three miles  from

184a school but clustered near each other like   the old Marshall Bolden process um then it is kids  who might only be a mile and a half away but who   are north south east and west from the school  hence Roots must be long and kids are only a   mile and a half from a school might end up with  four miles of bus riding which can take an hour   um it also matters isn't just the rioters  but how many stops there are and when kids   are at low density but going to the  same school you can't consolidate   stops and you're forced to have a lot of  stops and might just have a single child   on the triple I placements also create a  tremendous number of Transportation dyads since   you every school has kids going there from every 

185single neighborhood using last year's kindergarten   placement data I could see that it's 20 possible  dyads of the five schools we had kids traveling 19   of them hence you have to do things like Montrose  and West Maple and kids who are going to Clinton   are on the same bus even though Montrose and  Western Maplewood are not near each other   we would have even more Transportation diets  this year now that Bolden has a kindergarten   in this the Board of Ed has made its share  of mistakes you guys Outsource the rest of   our transportation department which is what  other large Suburban districts don't do they   have a mixture of in-district and outsourced  Transportation also I don't think the board   did due diligence with Pre-K busing and there may  be very large resources going to that we've been   told

186that the district added 11 buses but  we don't know how many of those are for K5   um I think that Boe should  do some due diligence on that   um I also think that the board has allowed the  superintendent to blame this on bus touring which   is not really fair because the schools that start  at 758 are also late it's also not really fair   to blame this on a new bus company because Bel  Air buses which we've used for a few years are   also often late um anyway in looking at the  underlying cause of the busing difficult so   I ask you to look at our triple I placement  pattern see if you can reduce the number of   dyads thank you Jeffrey thank you so much the  next person that we have up is Sarah knishfisky foreign

187evski and I live in South Orange I'm a first  generation immigrant and so is my husband we   love the Soma Community I grew up in a working  middle class neighborhood and one of the few   ESL was called ESL back then kids in my school  and the only one who spoke my first language I   did not speak in school for my first year and  was held back a year in first grade however I   formed many strong friendships that carried  over from my neighborhood to my bus to my   school slowly my anxieties melted away in the  school of Fab and the social fabric allowed me   to become confident and overcome my fear  of speaking English I loved my growing up   experience and I would not change a thing I was  a shy kid what if I had

188been assigned to school   that was nowhere that where no one was from  my neighborhood and put on a bus with kids   I did not know and that bus was unreliable and  stressful and my parents weren't able to drive   me to school would I have formed those bonds  would I have overcome my fear of speaking my   immigrant immigrant parents working long hours  would not have complained and I could have ended   up on a different track unfortunately stories  like these happen in Soma with many different   types of families but they're underreported  by the people who are most affected we moved   to Soma a year ago a place known for its strong  community that tackles inequality head-on which   really resonated with us today we heard about  some amazing strides being taken in Columbia   High School with passionate teachers

189and education  administrators to help students of all backgrounds   feel welcome part of a community and encouraged  which results in them excelling academically   through the III our daughter Hannah was placed  into Clinton We Adore Clinton's teachers staff   and families however Hannah is the only first  grader in our neighborhood to go to Clinton   she has no commuting friends in her grade no  school friends in our neighborhood and we her   parents have no backup carpool no neighbors  to check in with about first grade questions   this year a year later we were fortunate to  receive a bus however the bus has been unreliable   and takes 45 to 90 minutes it's scheduled to  pick us up between either 7 13 or 7 23 we don't   even know what time meanwhile the school across  the street which also is our bus

190stop Marshall   starts at 8 45. perhaps this early bus boarding  start time is preferable to some families but   our family has two younger kids at home at this  time a later work day and as a result of this   has trouble making it to the bus by 7 23 or 7 13.  for a 758 school start time on behalf of the Soma   Community for all backgrounds we as parents have  compiled two requests for Dr Taylor and the Boe   better communication as you work through this and  better in a better commuting situation for the com   for first for the communication part that if a  bus is going to be more than five minutes late   an administrator emails families within 15 minutes  to let us know that the bus is late a weekly and   second a weekly Transportation

191report listing  reported issues and how they're being addressed   um two shorter more efficient bus routes the  traffic will continue to get worse as the II   continues so um first review the Clinton and  gray purple bus routes and change or recombine   the routes accordingly and the parents can do  this if you guys don't have the staff to do it   um an option to transfer to the nearest school  and um if in place of bus placement or for like   for like transfers most people probably won't  choose to transfer but if a few people transfer   it will lighten the bus load and make routes more  efficient and last kids living near each other   micro neighborhoods all going to the same school  this simplifies bus routes keeps community and   makes backup carpools possible thank you thank you  very much

192that concludes in-person public speaks   we'll now move on to Virtual public speaks  and the first person listed is Vanessa Sneed   that Community member is not online  okay the next person is Christine Vada Community member is not online Shannon cuddle foreign we can hear you hi um thank you um I was having  Tech issues thank you Keith bonds for your support   um so uh thank you to uh with the Board  of Education tonight and for a hearing accepting the report of HIV um so my comments  tonight are brief but they're also uh with Dr   Albert uh giving his remarks I'm just so  glad I had the opportunity to um speak to   our district last month and also in my capacity  of the chair of the New Jersey anti-bullying   task force um I do want to just

193to highlight a  few things one uh which is the anti-bullying task   force for New Jersey is holding a hearing public  hearing for folks on October 4th that is going to   be in person at the in Trenton at the New Jersey  doe main office building and also on October 5th   which is virtual folks can sign up for both you  need to register by October second it is vitally   important that folks are able to give their  story of self explicitly talking about students   and other community members and stakeholders that  are impacted by the bullying recent updates of the   AVR implementation from 2019 and 2022 so I really  want to highlight that and for us as a district I   also want to be able to highlight that within our  district that we are going into October which is  

194bullying Awareness Month the first week of October  is mandated as we can respect in all school   districts in the state of New Jersey are mandated  to have activities for week of respect but also   within that regard is the fact that we need is  mandated under law that all school districts are   supposed to have anti-bullying training not just  for our staff and abs and other admin but also for   students and that um encourage us to consider  that and I know that came up in the report tonight   and I just want to say that that is not a one-time  thing this has been required since the law has   been implemented and I also want to say that if  folks have want to give anti-bullying testimony   stories of self to the state task force so you  can give

195that to the abtf 2023 at doe.nj.gov if you need to email that to us as well and  I know and I thank the uh school district and   Dr Taylor from being out of Outreach and uh thank  you thank you very much Shannon Caitlin as you as   um board president to ensuring that we get the  information out to students and families about the   upcoming hearings and that's important so thank  you thank you so much next up we have Liz Callahan can you hear me yes great hi there my name is Liz  Callahan I'm a resident of Maplewood parent of two   kids in our district and I wish I could be there  tonight in person but unfortunately I am a little   bit under the weather so it's been a week and a  half since the presentation by

196Dr Fergus regarding   his latest report and I know I've been reflecting  on the results and recommendation and in my   role as a candidate for the Board of Education  speaking with community members about its findings   as I've said in the past it really is a privilege  to live in this active and involved community that   expresses so much concern in terms of equity and  educational Excellence for all and there are a lot   of folks in our community who truly want to see  something done to meaningfully change these trends   so I'm pleased and encouraged to see the  work that is taking place on tonight's   agenda with regard to the black parents  Workshop settlement and the more important   context being that it puts us on a path to  address the opportunity and outcome gaps   that are endemic in our

197district especially  for black and brown and Hispanic students   the creation of this committee devoted to focusing  on compliance with the settlement is a useful   start and I'm here tonight if not virtually  so we encourage you to take advantage of this   moment to make the most impactful change you can  as soon as you can we know with regard to this   settlement that we have had a three-year Runway  to achieve it however we also know that we have   Decades of disparity and equity in our review  rear view mirror but in our present we have an   active public conversation right now about these  findings and the road forward we know that we   shouldn't be surprised by them but they are still  shocking simply by virtue of being again reminded   of the way our school system keeps producing  these

198results it seems increasingly likely   that myself and my running mates Shayna and will  will have the opportunity to join many of you on   the board in January and if that comes to pass we  look forward to joining with you in this critical   work to collaborate and ensure we have thoughtful  intentional work being done that will generate the   systemic and sustainable changes that facilitate  the long-term results we all desperately want   to see but right now you have a strong public  mandate to take dramatic and meaningful steps   to address these systemic challenges and we  encourage you to seize the moment thank you   thank you Liz and feel better thank  you up next we have principal Irby Hill good evening um I was originally I  am Lynn Irby Hill principal of South   Orange Maplewood at South Orange Maplewood 

199South Orange middle school and the president   of ASCA I was originally coming to the board  meeting tonight to speak on the Fergus report   um but I will save that for next month however  I do have to speak on Transportation whoever it   was that said that transportation is a success  uh is completely out of touch with reality and   I want to thank my colleague Rocio for speaking  about um transportation and the parents I have   asked my principals to email me whenever they  are Transportation issues I get them daily we   have Elementary School students who are not  being picked up from their school until 4 18   in the afternoon almost an hour after their  school has let out students are coming to   school late sometimes 30 minutes 45 minutes they  are missing instruction and I have to

200ask you   who is on these buses some of our most fragile  children we have transportation issues I have   homeless children who have not attended school  because Transportation has not been provided for   them and it is almost October 1st how dare you  say that transportation is a success thank you okay thank you uh principal Irby  Hill next up we have sudarshan Pani good evening can you hear me yes we can thank  you I would uh join my fellow appearance in in   commenting on the transportation issue I had the  opportunity to speak at the board meeting 10 days   ago I'm the father of two children at Clinton  Elementary School I live in Maplewood uh just   shy of two miles away from the school um 10 days  ago we had a conversation about the the fact that   bus

201that a bus has not arrived at our bus has not  arrived at Clinton Elementary School on time yet   uh in in his response to us Dr Taylor mentioned  that the first 10 days are the busiest time of   the year for our transportation department  I would like to point out to Dr Taylor and   to the rest of the board that we are  well beyond the first 10 days of school   and yet we still have not reached school on time  with any of uh any of the kids on the gray route   um I won't I won't belabor the point but I will  mention that the idea that transportation is a   success uh as mentioned by the principal just  now uh is a fallacy we are still waiting for   buses to come on time we are still waiting

202for  communication about when buses are late and uh as   mentioned as by many of my my fellow parents here  uh we are still waiting for more efficient routing   um I know there are many endemic problems to  to transportation we cannot fix all of them   but communication would go a long way and  at least letting us know that someone is   listening and that someone is  addressing the issues thank you thank you very much um did anyone else log  on Mr Vons Vanessa Christie or Christine I know that can remember is still not  present okay thank you so much so that   concludes our first public speaks  Dr Taylor do you care to respond   thank you madam president I definitely will  respond and for those who don't normally   attend these meetings um though I'm advised  not to respond

203to public speaks we always   try to do so so that everyone leads with the  same information um but I'll go back a little   bit further than public speaks to some of the  comments that were made um after Mr Burnside   shared updates on transportation to also allow us  to all leave with the same information so please   um give me just a moment as I go through my notes  the um there was a comment made about the about so   Maya and myself having some type of deal to not  have to dismiss our transportation department   and I will confirm what the board president  shared that is not true um I will also um you didn't say it oh I said boyfriend I'm sorry  so mayor president I apologize I apologize um for those who have mentioned um  transportation

204or the communication   of what's happening with Transportation  I hope that you received our update that   was sent today that followed  up on the update that was sent   um last week and also if you didn't get an  update I would strongly um suggest you email   me directly because it means that your email is  not reflected in PowerSchool what okay all right we also shared um with the with the board  and others um those Communications that   were going out based on the updates that  we have today around collapsing routes and   adding uh buses to a few routes to have had  consistent challenges I'm going through here there were a couple of very specific  concerns around the gray route and the   purple route and those are two of the four  routes that were communicated with today   um if

205you did not receive those emails um  I'm not allowed to talk back and forth with   you but if you hang out when I get done  I'll definitely come back and talk to you   um the um we're happy to share  with you what those updates were thank you former board member cuddle um for for  your thanks on partnering with your appointment   um and Trenton supporting bullying  legislation anti-bullying legislation there was also a comment made around apologizing  to families who've been negatively impacted   um by Transportation or this this new version  of transportation and and I definitely think   that I've done that um but I don't believe in  offering excuses I believe in finding Solutions   that's what we've been working on I hope that  today's updates for those who are impacted   um we customize those Communications as we

206did  last week directly for them and again for those   who did not receive that update please let us know  we utilize regarding communicating directly to   specific buses and routes we use School Messenger  to Target and customize those messages just for   those kids on those buses as we shared I believe  at our at last week's Safety and Security Forum we   shared that we're adding kids every day eight to  twelve kids um up to as we shared close to 500 new   writers so as that's happening those New Riders  have to be added into school Messenger to also   um finalize who receives those updates  and that's a process that's ongoing Mr Ben are you still here hi good to see you  um so to Mr Bennett's um comments regarding   um aligning students um within neighborhoods to  um minimize

207the distance between them that is   the opposite of what our integration work  requires um the the neighborhood School   model is the model that led to us having  segregated elementary schools um but your   your feedback is most certainly acknowledged  um just going through my notes Here one second regarding the um the Outsourcing of busting  just as a a point of reference for folks   um Outsourcing the majority of our transportation  needs was not something that was new   um when we did have our own Fleet it was only for  a small portion of our transportation needs we've   um had outsourced um companies as long as  I've been here that predated me as well foreign to principal Irby Hill um as always my door is  open for you to share the information that you've   collected uh principles also of

208course email me  directly and we also have check-ins with those   who work in the transportation department but  I welcome more information that helps us to do   better and perform at a higher clip and of course  um hold ourselves and our vendor accountable a couple of the comments that I receive directly  are from folks who should have received our   communication today from school messenger so I  will make sure that for those who who left these   um who gave us messages tonight  we'll send you those messages   directly to ensure you have the latest  information that was sent out today   that specifies the changes that  are occurring for your routes there was a comment um that Mr Bennett  shared I wanted to respond to regarding   bus capacity and that adding buses and lack of  capacity should not um

209if I wrote down correctly   here um there should be kind of a null impact  and what I would share and I think what we shared   previously is capacity we understand folks who  see buses that are not full and want those buses   to P to be full as we do and we estimate um  the number of buses that we need based on the   population and all the calculations that we do  with that but you know it is it does equal more   capacity usually equals more stops and more stops  equals longer routes and longer routes are some of   the concerns that we've heard from so just sharing  that that there is a definite uh connection there um regarding the appearance of indifference I'm  not sure if that was directed towards me or not   I hope that anyone

210who has sent me an email can  let you know that I respond directly to that and   that I respond as efficiently as I can myself  I don't have people who email on my behalf and   address every single person individually regarding  their concerns whether it be on Transportation or   anything else and I hope that my record reflects  that Madam president those are all my responses   thank you Dr Taylor you will now move on  to committee reports so we'll start with   Regina and we'll just go around the  horn Regina we'll start with personnel thank you the Personnel committee met on Tuesday  September 19th board members Wingfield Whit letter   and I were in attendance board member right  was absent we kicked off the meeting reviewing   Personnel resolution 4506 just a couple of  things I just wanted to highlight

211we discuss   special services department coverage with one  of the supervisors resigning and how this will   affect the department with other staff on leave  Dr Taylor alerted the board of a plan for coverage   for Montrose that it would be forthcoming we  will actually be voting on this during the action   portion of tonight's meeting we also discussed  special education vacancies and how principals   are working creatively with HR and coverage until  these positions are filled at the moment second in   the secondary schools six period classes are being  assigned to help with the load and administration   confirmed they are keeping a close eye on it and  exploring additional ways to fill these openings   Administration also gave an update on  the interim transportation coordinator   that they are looking to extend the contract  which was initially a three-month contract   for a

212longer period of time in order to  get the two new assistants up to speed we reviewed three policies that will be up for  first read at our October meeting no issues with   the recommended changes but I did want to point  out for policy 4281 inappropriate staff conduct   the board would like to add something  where staff can report inappropriate   conduct anonymously and it was agreed that this  change should be made as part of the regulation during old business we focused on teacher  retention I had asked about some strategies   that the district is employing or are in the  pipeline towards teacher retention Mr adedoine   mentioned a few ideas he had discussed with  Dr Gilbert that included incentivizing signing   bonuses a different type of mentoring program  that targets incoming teachers and requires a   one to four year commitment

213different kinds of  affinity groups where we will tackle what we are   doing well and what we need to improve upon and  opened up the discussion about the possibility of   allowing staff to have their children attend our  schools Dr Taylor did mention saying competitive   with the upcoming contract negotiations will  also be important in that vein I did ask that   we continue to oh I'm sorry grabbing people is  the dollar keeping people as a culture is what   we discussed and in that vein I ask that we  continue to discuss these Affinity groups and   how this could be a good space for teachers  um to to have a place where they feel heard   during new business we cover Dr Gilbert covered  sexual misconduct and harassment training he   reviewed the steps taken and timeline for all  coaches to complete

214Title IX training by October   15th which was originally to be completed  before the school year he provided a ton of   details on the challenges that they came across  over the summer that ultimately pushed back the   timeline the board did ask if in the future  we can get this done before the school year   starts obviously there are um a bunch of nuances  as coaches are hired at different times of the   year but Dr Gilbert did confirm that that was  the intention and remains to be moving forward Miss Weibel also joined as a special guest to  go over some questions that a board member had   regarding the Dating Violence policy all the  details can be found in the meeting minutes   and the board requested that the district provide  a brief presentation in an upcoming board meeting   so

215that the communities were all aware of all the  hard work that has gone into the implementation   of this policy so at this point we're looking at  likely in November when all all staff have been   trained in terms of action items and next steps  we are I've asked that we continue this discussion   around Affinity groups for teachers and staff  Anonymous ways to air concerns for students and   staff and that is it our next meeting is scheduled  for Monday October 9th at 6 30 pm any questions a couple of uh meetings back you had a really  nice report put out by the district which you   shared internally about a number of vacancies  you know the the thing is that something you   plan to publish quarterly or is it like a  month yes I actually had gotten it

216I was   just making a few tweaks to it so that it's  just easier to digest yes I will send it out   um by the end of the week okay thanks a lot fft okay on September 20th 2023 board members  what letter Gifford about the money myself   met for fft we had a special guest Mr Jerry Ford  our transportation coordinator attend as well to   prepare for the meeting with Mr Ford I created  a spreadsheet to give him questions in advance   and roots from parent complaints that were an  issue which at the time included five buses and   I just want to say thank you to board members  who contributed to that document helped have a   very good conversation with him with Mr Ford we  discussed bus routes that were delayed why they   were delayed how they were

217going to be rectified  immediately and and be communicated to parents we   also emphasize how important it was to communicate  to parents in real time about the challenges and   solutions and process we asked if buses can  have GPS and they do have GPS capabilities so   the district will look into implementing that we  discussed versatrans we discussed that versatrans   does not take into account traffic like Google  Maps or Waze which is a challenge we discussed   making sure drivers have root instructions which  they are given um so we um but when there are   Subs sometimes there are some confusions there  we've discussed the importance of being able to   communicate to drivers in real time to get answers  sooner sometimes we have to go through a dispatch   to get um bus response especially when it's a  sub um and

218to board president's question earlier   to Mr barnside about setting up a face-to-face we  discussed a face-to-face meeting and that was your   idea thank you so much for thinking of that with  the drivers to nurture our relationship with them   um we learned that when buses are chronically  late the district charge is the bus company   and bus companies have 48 hours to action change  requests from the district we also asked forced   Transportation stats and for the district to  provide us a spreadsheet that explains data and   financials of our buses so that we understand what  we have left from our Bose funds we want to track   spending for transportation as well as ridership  data at the time of the meeting we were using 11   buses out of the 12 projected to be needed as for  hazardous Roots we

219plan to update our hazardous   Roots policy in November with any new routes as  new traffic patterns can create hazardous routes   per the policy these routes can be evaluated by a  formal complaint from a student's caregiver Sloane   Street and Third Avenue is an example of this the  current construction and that intersection has   created hazardous conditions and that site will  exist we were told for the next two or three years   we discussed suggesting a carpool or group walk  group walking app for parents who are below the   mile Mark and want to and and are not eligible  for transportation and want to connect with other   families to work together to get kids to school  other districts across the country purchase this   type of app for their caregiver community and we  asked the district to look into this even

220if they   are just suggesting a vetted app for parents to  use and not purchasing it outright for for parents   and caregivers we also had a conversation about  crossing guards and the importance of working   with the two towns to inform them of school  time changes many weeks in advance and discuss   walking routes so that they can ensure they are  so that the towns can ensure they're supporting   our student Walkers properly um I'm in I'm on  the municipal Partnerships committee with uh   board president and I share that as a result of  our Partnerships call before the fft meeting we   discuss the importance of the Two Towns having a  meeting with the transportation department and the   district to um to discuss walking routes they the  two towns have been really wonderful in partnering   with us and wanting to

221streamline the crossing  guards process as much as possible especially   for next year some good key learnings for us so  just to wrap up we also discussed our preliminary   Rod Grant and how that could impact Improvement  projects for the district which the rod Grant   only approved the replacement of our roofs which  is great we're going to get some new roofs but   those those items are not part of our long range  facility plan we cannot use the rod grant for that   we discussed scheduling a meeting in November  with the Border School estimate to review the   district's financials and needs for a long-range  facility plan and as everyone knows our district   goal is by December one we would have done the  analysis to understand the financial impact and   where we could find any extra funds that meeting  is

222currently set for November 28th so thank you   to the district for scheduling that we discussed  Auditorium bids to compare with our Co-op bids   so more on that soon change orders for longer  facility plan which weren't too weren't too crazy   and then uh we discussed adding repair replacement  payment terms to the students electronic warranty   I don't have the official policy number in  front of me but it's the policy that we're   pushing through tonight about students using um  Electronics from the school and we decided that   instead of putting a mandate on what happens if  parents do not pay for any repair replacement in   the policy that would be that those payment terms  would be put in the form that parents would need   to use when they are um agreeing to the terms  of receiving electronic devices because

223we put   in the policy they might miss it we want to  make sure that parents understand the payment   terms when they're receiving electronic devices  for their students if they choose to not do the   warranty the warranty is about 25 per student  for the year and then finally we discussed our   concerns about the fight at the recent Irvington  Columbia High School football game and that we   want to know what else security can do in the  future to curb situations like this I think   that'll be a topic that we'll need to add on  to fft again because we Dr Taylor had to split   his time a little bit um this month and I think  he needs to be part of that conversation and we   just had that security meeting which I know will  inform a lot of

224that discussion any questions I was just thinking that's a question or a comment  maybe it should go to our our ba but in talking   about the buses right um are we charging them  for lateness you know when they don't show up   on time is there any type of compensatory damages  or whatever because they're they're not arriving   but we can collect that money and do something  with it I don't know I just thinking about it   yeah so we don't really collect money we just  penalize them um we've given them until the   end of next week and then after that we're  going to start invoking the penalties thanks two things one is I'm not sure if you spoke about   subscription busing I don't know if there is  any update on that I I don't know if you

225talked   about right I forget because we've talked about  it many times yeah well it's going to be next   it's the next month's meeting because we'll have  the woman from Bella I forgot Sussex County Co-op   is going to show up next meeting so there'll  be more on that soon I just sent her an email   this week uh earlier this week to invite her to  the October 10th yeah perfect thank you and uh   while we are preparing for the board of school  estimates I just wanted to confirm that with   tonight's bid that we've accepted which has been  accepted or whatever I mean bits have come in and   we like it so the only thing that is pending would  be the entire South Orange Middle School package right I believe if you uh if I remember  correctly not

226you um the award tonight   includes the electrical upgrade for Psalms  and nothing else correct what I mean by that   is tonight's bid includes all of Maplewood Middle  School and only the electrical portion of Psalms   whereas if you want to go ahead with the  project for rest of Psalms we have to raise   money from Board of school estimates yes that  is correct I apologize if I wasn't clear there okay my turn um on September 28th the productive  meeting was held with Courtney Regina myself and   we were privileged to have Johanna join us as a  special guest this was due to nubia's during the   concurrent fft meeting uh the overview is that  the meeting was extensive and intense yet all   participants unanimously agreed that it stood out  as one of the most effective every intendee had   the

227opportunity to contribute constructively  and share their insights respectfully we   talked about the k-3 magnet reading phonics  program Dr Bean folks delivered an insightful   presentation on this initiative the board has  expressed the desire for this presentation to   be disseminated with the Border broader public  and it now has been so thank you for doing that   um we got a GNT update we received an update  date on the forthcoming screening tool set to   be introduced in January this non-verbal tool  is geared to support twice exceptional students   assessments will be carried out for students  all students in first fourth seventh grade   and new students and also upon  recommendation from parents or teachers   students who qualify will be given a gifted action  plan like we are currently doing uh book adoption   tonight's agenda includes numerous books up for  adoption and

228it's encouraging to witness the   variety of topics including lgbtq plus themed ones  up for adoption field trip resolution that we have   tonight it is pittable to clarify that the field  trip resolution outlines potential destinations   and not confirmed trips so there's like a  gazillion listed we're not going on all of them   even though I want to um we're currently  standardizing our field trip process drawing   from feedback received from parents last  year Dr Taylor I know you were working on   a report to the committee when you know uh love  to know when you're we are going to have that by   maybe hopefully the next meeting uh policy updates  policies were upper person second read were   reviewed there were no amendments were necessary  no changes were made we did receive the failure   data from the third and fourth

229marking period  from Columbia High School which I shared with   all the board members the numbers to continue to  be sobering and reinforce the data that we heard   from Dr Fergus that are Black and Hispanic and  special ed students are failing at disportion at   rates than our white students option two required  changes um I know that some pan I guess the case   the students spoke about it earlier and we have  heard from some parents these revisions were   made to align our practices with the state's  option two requirements this rectification   was necessary due to us not following the  state regulations regarding logging hours   um AP micro economics course the administrative  registration concedes that earlier communication   would have been beneficial and apologizes for  the lateness of the alert the board spoke about   the need to approve the communication

230in the  future elementary math curriculum updates were   shared about the curriculums roll out and  related professional development schedule   IRS update the Friday packet was supposed to  contain the revised guide complete with new   standardized poor arms and notable changes  being affected this year I'm hoping that we   were supposed to get in last Friday's packet  I'm hoping it's coming in this Friday's packet   uh the Freshman Academy which is also known as I  guess cougar cuddle or is it huddle I don't know   um the board was very excited about this  program especially the supports that were   going to be put in place to help not only  our freshmen but also other students who   are struggling we were told the program  was going to be five days a week have an   SEL component have curriculum with study skills  and

231other supports built in but due to an issue   we cannot support a five-day a week program  a sidebar agreement with the Union is up for   vote tonight and if it passes it will allow for  students to work with teachers two days a week   at the present moment students in New York are in  the auditorium two days a week doing team building   activities and until an agreement can be reached  we also learned that there is no set curriculum   for the program in that quote next year we will  be expanding this program and working with our   teachers and at that time we will evaluate the  need for a formal curriculum due to the lateness   of the night and the surprise of this information  we didn't have a chance to fully discuss this but   we plan to in

232the near future I did speak with  a few students this weekend who stated that they   think the idea is good but at least so far it has  been entirely disorganized and counterproductive   um the Fergus report and the access and Equity  policy discussion the majority of our session was   dedicated to the report's findings and Courtney's  proposal regarding access and Equity policy   the conversation was honest uh thoughtful  emotional at times and we all left feeling   like we needed all board members to have an  opportunity to express their thoughts and   feelings on the important work we have ahead  of us given the significance of the report's   recommendations I am putting forth a proposal  that in the near future we have a special working   meeting no action will be taken of the board where  we hear from the administration

233on how they plan   to implement the findings I am hopeful that  we will get some solid responses to the report   findings the hope is that the entire board works  collaboratively with the administration to craft   a policy or maybe more than one policy that will  support their implementation plans the work is too   important for all voices to not be included  in this process uh we talk often about the   need to break the committee silos and a meeting  like I'm proposing can be the first step in the   process I will say that the idea is supported  by our Municipal Partners specifically Village   president column who talked about it during the  municipal partnership meeting um I would like   to do a straw poll now together uh interest in the  idea of having a meeting specifically on the topic

234of like a a specific like on um just dealing with  the Fergus report and getting the administration's   recommendations can this be table till new  business I think this is exactly how you um [Music] yeah so normally you don't do a straw  poll in public but you also don't have any action   pending because there's no motion behind it  so what I gather you're doing right now is   talking about whether you want to have another  meeting and if the room feels like you want to   have another meeting then you would call upon the  board president to schedule another meeting okay   and then I'm calling upon the board  president to schedule another meeting   if the board has the will to do so sorry I'm just wanted to clarify so you're  saying have another meeting but we're about   to

235vote on having a meeting a committee of the  whole yeah maybe it can be done it could be done   during the committee of poll could we just get  when we get to the action portion that will be   when we could discuss and we vote on that and  then I guess depending on how that vote goes   could be a new business topic that  works for me I you know at the point   when this was being written we weren't  there so happy to wait till till then one Ela program um   that's a good question and do you have the answer  to that um the district piloting more than one well she's the oh yeah I I'm just asking because  she's in Georgia cni can I not or Dr Taylor   should I ask you is the but she's

236not she's the  cherubs you know it um curriculum instructions I   guess that question is are we piloting more  than one program and are should we be pile   anymore oh thank you are we piloting more than  one Ela program at this time or do we intend to   um and is it something that we  should be doing if we're not   um I think should is a it's probably  a question that's subjective but I'll   allow Miss Bodner to come and be able to  respond to your questions thank you thank you thank you thank you for the phonics program or  in general the phonics program what is this new   Ela curriculum oh thank you so I don't know  why I can um the new Ela curriculum I believe   we're looking at magnetic right yeah that's  that's the phonics program

237so are we looking   to Pilot so Dr beam folks brought together if  you actually if you watch her video because   it explains the whole process of how she came up  with this particular program she brought a team of   Any teacher who wanted to in the district together  to they really looked at every program out there   they had criteria of what they were looking  for to make sure that everything in mostly   that everything was included in this so that they  didn't have to pull from different programs they   did a thorough thorough thorough search of many  many different programs we brought in experts to   come in and talk to our staff and staff and um  along with Dr Bean folks I believe Ms Carrera   was there I was in at the meetings they um all  unanimously picked

238this program to Pilot so   we're piloting that and it seems to be growing  as teachers are finding more out more about it   they're asking to be a part of it so you know it's  growing that's good oh board member Duvall Wilson   I had a question in um for whoever um it seems  like they're they're I'm curious how um teachers   are being informed on how to communicate this  process um because I'm happy to hear that more   teachers are volunteering that's great but there  are of course a pool of teachers who are not K   to three and so um you know I did receive some  feedback from some from some community members   just saying it seemed like during back to school  night at least from my school South Mountain   that maybe there was just a little bit

239of  confusion like okay some are getting it   some are not some are still getting TC and I'm  just curious and maybe you don't have an answer   tonight but I think that we might need to arm our  teachers with a little bit more um messaging on   this process and so that it doesn't alarm parents  if some students are getting in some are not I made the note thank you concludes my committee report  oh sorry I thought nobody I just want to say I hope  the boiler is on next time no um um no so uh the policy committee convened on  September 7th at 6 30 PM board member malaspina   and myself were present uh tonight we have 14  policies up for a second read and adoption and   11 policies up for first read and the public 

240can find the list of those um on the website   I don't think it's necessary to name every  single one but they are listed on the website   um on new business we discussed policy  7490 animals on school property this   was request a requested review by the  Personnel committee chair this change   would allow District administration to speak  on behalf of the superintendent when an animal   is on school grounds excluding support service  animals and this will be put up for first read   we uh we also discussed invoice support for  the proposed book Banning resolution we are   voting on tonight which was [ __ ] we switched  the name to right to read because it writes the the yeah no no no um yes yes the right to read uh  resolution the opposite of banning books uh   we're we're voting on

241that tonight which was  shared by board member malice Spina Dr Taylor   and Dr Gilbert support the proposed resolution  lastly we discussed the draft policy 5755.1 access   and Equity a revision of the original access and  Equity policy proposed by board member Wingfield   and myself this draft policy serves to expand upon  the existing 5755 access and equity which is rich   in spirit but we feel lacks the teeth necessary to  arrive at the equity outcomes the district desires   this draft policy intends to provide a road map to  do just that I'd also like to add that many pieces   of the policy are direct recommendations from the  Fergus report the revised draft policy outlines   key Equity framed expectations within the domains  of academics culture and climate and personnel   some key pillars of 57551 are as follows  provide Affinity spaces

242for students of   color across all School levels for academic  social and emotional mentoring and support   build School cultures that intentionally focus  on fostering empathy developing relationships and   upholding dignity for everyone in our schools  offices and Community ensure a high quality   and coherent inrs process to provide strategic  academic support and intervention with ongoing   monitoring and reporting of data including  the demographic data of referrals to the child   study team provide an academically integrated  non-leveled rigorous core instructional program   K-12 with opportunities to accelerate through  advanced placement courses create a clear plan   and timeline to identify High achieving students  from underrepresented backgrounds for enrollment   and advanced placement courses ensure rigorous  and alignment of curriculum K-12 to ensure all   students receive the appropriate preparation to  access and succeed in AP courses in high school   provide access and support in engaging 

243with Dynamic rigorous coursework for all   students in order to maximize student learning  while focusing on a growth mindset and lastly   offering continuous professional development  that supports differentiated instruction while   addressing educational Equity cultural proficiency  anti-bias anti-racome anti-racism culturally   responsive pedagogy disability acceptance as  well as addressing homophobia transphobia and   sexism for the entire staff to provide some  background to the public this policy came   out of our board retreat in early August when  we were discussing what we wanted our board's   Legacy to be when it comes to access and Equity  at that point the board had received the Fergus   report and its recommendations and were grappling  with our responsibility as a board to act on them   Dr Telus Ford and myself shared our personal  experiences as students at high at Columbia   High School and the inequities we saw

244firsthand  especially as are related to academics racial   segregation at the end of The Retreat board  member Wingfield and I agreed to meet that month   and discuss next steps what ensued from that  was a revised draft of our access and Equity   policy that built on the important efforts of  previous boards everyone on the board has had   the opportunity to review the policy and provide  feedback and discuss it either in committee or   with myself or Courtney we have reviewed the  policy and made a number of revisions based   on feedback we received from our board attorney  and superintendent Taylor we reviewed this draft   policy in our policy committee this month and sent  the policy to cni for discussion as the policy   will return to the policy committee next week it  is my intention in partnership with Dr Taylor

245to   move the policy to first read in the effort to  allow the public to review and engage around the   substance of the policy from their community  members teachers students Administration and   the board will all have the opportunity to  weigh in on the merits of the policy the   Fergus report confirmed what we already knew we  have so much work to do with that said nothing   changes if nothing changes I look forward to  the spirit of debate we are sure to have as this   conversation needs to take place the meeting  adjourned at 7 14 pm and that is my readout questions are there any  questions for the policy chair board member Ecker sorry that was just that was  just a lot so I'm just trying to understand what   what the timeline is so you're it's gonna  go

246back to policy for your October meeting   or you're putting it up and then it  will be up for first read in October   so it will be up for discussion in the committee  and the only way the public gets to see it is by   putting it up for a first read no got it okay so  in October is what your time is what you're saying   is the timeline for the October meeting yeah um  okay it never went back to cni yeah okay sorry um yeah I mean this is exactly what I said  in cni so I'm just going to pretty much just   say it verbatim um the bulk of the policy  revisions frankly I'm quite I'm fine with   um I do have really a big concern about  the insertion of non-leveling this would   be one of

247the biggest and most Monumental policy  changes in recent history and it's not something   that can be fixed easily fixed if not properly  implemented we have yet to see data that shows   why we think this is the best course of action  for our district we need to engage with all   stakeholders that means the community teachers  and building Administration and it feels like   this is the opposite of the new policy process  in which we said that for a policy to go up for   first read it should be mostly fully baked  and so if we're putting it up for first read   for then the community to give us feedback for  teachers to give us feedback that just feels like   all the work that was done with that policy  process is just kind of thrown out the door like

248to comment um board member malice Vina sorry that's okay um I am in agreement  uh with Miss Eckert and I made those comments too   at the meeting I really believe we have the  opportunity now to do things correctly with   the process for far too long our district has done  pilot had it's been driven by policy and then the   administration is having to then make whatever  the board says work and that hasn't worked   it didn't work with IB it didn't work with the  first access and Equity policy it hasn't worked   with in the last like 20 years almost every  new initiative that has come has come from   board driven and then the administration tries  to figure it out and implementation doesn't work   that is why I proposed in this meeting doing  the process differently having a

249meeting where   the administration comes to us and shows us what  they want their recommendations their thoughts on   how we are going to make this work how we are  going to take those policy you know the the   recommendations and put them into action using the  data using information and then we as a board work   collaboratively with the district to come up  with policies this is being done I believe   the opposite way than it should be and we need to  to really hear from the administration hear from   and when I'm talking about the administration I'm  not only talking about just SLT I'm talking about   Administration who has talked to the teachers you  know the gut really gotten a hold of everybody and   then comes to us with recommendations and then we  do a policy this is putting

250the cart before the   horse in my opinion and I just don't think that  we should be dictating this at the present moment   they need to come to us with what their thoughts  are and then we work together collaboratively with   them that's how the process should be done and  I believe that we need to do it right this time   it's too important not to I find that  statement kind of ironic considering   this board passed a policy on Transportation  where we change the mileage and then we have   the implementation of that so we're talking about  the administration should come to us for what we   should do but now we're saying for Access and  Equity oh no we need to do something different   at no point has anyone discussed who is the  most affected by this which is

251our which are   our students we should be focused on student  outcomes that's what this board is here that's   where our policy should be focused on focusing  on the teachers the parents the community all   sorts of feedback we already got our feedback we  got our information we got the data we had the   Fergus report and this is information that has  we've experienced this for decades so it's not   as though this is new no one was shocked by any of  this I wasn't shocked by this I saw my whole life   so we know what needs to happen we know what  needs to change this policy is fully baked I   gave my feedback I gave extensive comments and  extensive edits I think many board members had   the opportunity to do that so to say that we  haven't had

252a chance to talk about this or go   through this we did it was actually discussed in  C and I and yes it's now coming back to policy so   yes it is the right time for our our committee to  discuss this this this policy so I think saying   that we need to slow down pump our brakes we  set policy we can talk about implementation   and I think the most important thing is we have an  enthusiastic Administration Behind these changes   so I think that we should be moving forward  and not just trying to figure out ways to stop   board member Deval Wilson I know we could go on  and on on about this we all have the same goal at   the end of the day I think for me my main question  tonight because it's 11 15

253is I'm just trying to   understand process because I know for fft when  I've had edits to policies it goes back to policy   and then the next month it comes back to  fft and that's how it's been for months   so I'm just trying to understand why that  step is being skipped I think that sets a   an inappropriate precedence for just not being  strict with ourselves when it comes to policy   and process and so my suggestion is yes take  it back to policy and then do the timeline   the way we all agreed we were going to do  the timeline 60 days or whatnot then after   it goes to policy it needs to go back to cni  why would we skip that step I don't understand board member Wingfield there were no edits that  came out of cni

254there was feedback about the Merit   and the belief about whether or not we should  have this policy but there was no feedback out   of cni so wait let me finish so the policy  has been sent back to the policy committee   for further review and I think at this point I'm  not really sure why we're so terrified of having   this conversation in public in October because  all we're asking we're not asking for folks to   vote in October we're asking for us to be able  to share the policy with the community and for   the community I had to have an opportunity to  voice their feedback an opportunity for us to   engage further with Dr Taylor around the data that  he shared with all of us around this policy just   before the board meeting which I'm sure we

255haven't  had a chance to dig into and we're asking for an   open and transparent conversation with each other  and with the public around a policy that you've   all had multiple multiple opportunities to read  and to provide feedback on but feedback is not   the same thing as saying I don't like this well I  think I think that's where there's a a confusion   because I requested edits and I wasn't at cni  so that I wasn't there to speak for myself but   I passed along edits and requests to have certain  things spelled out more when it came to leveling   and I would like to see those adjustments  made and if for whatever reason my request   for changes and additional language because I  think that part of the policy looked buried to me   and look like it needed more

256legs it needed  more language it needed more support and so   if that wasn't clear from my feedback in writing  I apologize I'm happy to have another phone call   um with with Bill or you pass on  more of my thinking that's in my head   um because I do have some requests but I but  my requests are based on enhancements not so   much removal just enhancements and so that's why  I'm concerned about it's skipping cni because I   would like to see that in there and and have the  opportunity to also discuss that with the team   to see if you might not agree with my changes  but I think that we need to follow the process   that's all I'm trying to say I would I'd like to  comment and see and I share share on this we left  

257cni with the discussion that you and I would meet  we haven't had a chance that was on me because   I did not pass on the opportunity Courtney  I was sick last week and I have been busy   all week I am planning to meet with you  Courtney you can I don't know I can't   um but what I'm going to say is I have not  had the opportunity to put my edits into   into this because I was told last minute  that I was able to put edits into it also   in the cni meeting we never discussed moving it  forward we never said that we were okay with this   that's not true that is true you're not telling  the truth all right guys guys guys guys okay   you're not telling us all right everyone this  is like we

258said for board members who have not   had the chance to speak if there's other board  members I do have some comments to make but I   just I usually try to be the last person to speak  so does anyone else on the board member right okay so we're talking about the leveling which we   um worked on for this District um  some time ago and it was certainly um really well researched in terms of what we needed  for our district but the bottom line is that there   are some reasons that um I will give you uh that I  also shared in cni and thank you guys for inviting   me I never get invited and if I was invited to  see and I was so excited to to join them and so   uh number one for de-leveling key

259points money  needs to be invested in professional development   for teachers administrators faculty you need  administrative meetings conferences professional   development days number two you need a revision  of curriculum in conjunction with experienced   teachers and best teacher practices number three  you need training and differentiating instruction   four you need to upgrade materials and  technology and classrooms at five and this   is the one that sticks with me that concerns  me is that de-leveling should take place in   phases to avoid what we call Planned failure  and I'm going to repeat that planned failure   and number six benchmarks and assessments for  each phase seven Community forums explaining   the D leveling process is very important uh  eight surveys and interviews teachers students   administrators and parents all stakeholders  must be involved as we involve them not too   long ago and I think that

260Mr Gaines spoke about  that when he was here and the last thing is   and this is mandatory that data and de-leveling  resources must be reviewed by all administrators   and supervisors for Effective implementation  now this isn't going to take place overnight   so it's it takes time so it's a a long process  when you put these things in place then you can   begin to do things for us we have a situation  of children in crisis right now we're on life   support So as we're sitting here with I call this  a distraction so as we're sitting here with this   distraction we've already received information  from Dr Ferguson what we need to put in place in   order to move our children forward I don't know  why we're not looking at that but I shouldn't be   looking at it as

261a board member anyway that's not  for the admit that's up to the administration and   staff the professionals uh and so I this to me  is a distraction and we won't will be another   six years kicking something down the road to make  sure that things are straight for kids just to   say that we've done something and I haven't  seen anything that we've put into policy for   the most part that we've been able to implement  and and another thing is we have to be forced   to do what is right and here we are going on  another side of the block rather than doing   what we have laid in front of us from Dr Fergus  let's give him that respect that's a professional   leave this up to the staff and and and doctor  um Taylor to make sure

262that these things are   implemented uh and implemented correctly the  leveling right now is going to take us a few   years and we've already been there and done  that you know so that's that's just how I feel um Dr talisford right now we're talking about just a  policy change so we can change policy   and then take our time with implementation  and do all the things that we say is required   but it starts from the top or from the board  setting that setting that precedent saying   look we need to move forward in this direction and  then really make sure and hold the administration   accountable for that implementation but to ask  that we must have the implementation all set   up before we change the policy seems backwards  actually we set the policy and then ensure that   that implementation

263goes goes smoothly by holding  the administration accountable for that [Music]   so sorry I'm just going to speak on a couple  of things here first the board sets policy   in consultation with the district and with the  stakeholders who are impacted by the policy this   board we as a board for nine months have sat  through a gauntlet of accusations about this   policy process the way in which we were conducting  this process and the revisions that were involved   many board members sat here and said that  we should be thoughtful that we shouldn't   rush creating policy that the things that we do  should be intentional and I agree with all of   that this will be one of the most transformative  policies that we will ever pass as a board and   to your point bill this is a legacy but

264the fact  that we're trying to do this you never once even   in your readout use the word d level like let's  just address the fact that this is something that   people use a lot of Ed you speak instead of being  transparent about what we're trying to do and   what I have concerns with is not only the the  process that we followed because the district   has not played a role in any of this they have not  come with their proposal with their intention of   how they think they can accomplish this I can  read a list which I would love for you guys to   be able to answer the 15 questions that I've sent  that were all questions that when I talked to the   council about that these are questions as a board  if we're making a

265responsible decision we should   have answers to so I'm happy to I think build  they were sent to you that aside everyone in this   District can look at the access and Equity policy  and say it's not enough and I'm sitting here today   just upset at the fact that we were given it's not  even here's Dr fergus's recommendations this was   a mandate 23 things that we have to accomplish in  a three-year period we hired this man because we   were sued but we spent a hundred thousand dollars  to hire a national expert to tell us how we can   close the achievement Gap and it starts with  building a foundation that Foundation includes   23 items not once does he mention D leveling at  this point in time and in my opinion I think he   might think that's a phase

266two conversation we  are not doing the bare minimum to support our   students I want to go through here one of his  recommendations which I want to call attention   to Dr Fergus in 2021 came to the district and said  there's inconsistencies in the way that we're that   we're operating our academic support services that  contribute to the patterns of academic segregation   and disproportionate patterns in special education  Dr Fergus recommended the Improvement of the   academic support services at the elementary  schools occur and now he's saying within the   next two years because he told us to do it in  2021 he came back to tell us to do it in 2023 and   he said if we don't do this the tiered supports  that he's also requiring that we do will not work   efficiently and this is critical work to

267support  integration I just I think we're in a position   right now where board members are dictating what  the priorities of the district should be and in   this case it's not even the board and frankly  it's not the district we have an outside party   with a Justice who is monitoring how we Implement  these recommendations and if we don't do it we're   back in court if we don't do it we don't have the  supports in place to help our students of color so   while I respect that people did the work to create  a policy it did not engage stakeholders have we   talked to the teachers about the additional  requirements for professional development   that would be required so that every teacher can  walk into a classroom and provide differentiated   instruction next year it's we have to recognize as 

268a district where we are and these are goals that   we can have in Phase One and phase two we have Dr  Taylor putting together a Dei plan for the next   five years for the board to think that we are in  any sort of position to do this right now when we   have 23 recommendations mandated recommendations  glaring at us that we are legally required to   implement in the next three years three years is  going to go by like that and the first thing that   we should be asking right now is is follow-up to  the presentation what is the district's Vision   we have no idea what the priorities are going  to be of those 23 recommendations where where   they intend to focus on how they're going to  do it we don't write the regulations but we we  

269should understand what the regulation the premise  of these regulations will be as it relates to   anything that we do so that as a board we are  informed and we have we feel comfortable with   making a decision and we're sitting here right  now with no information and with a lot of board   members telling the district how things should get  done the district has not sent the proposal about   how they're incorporating Fergus recommendations  and how they intend to accomplish this work which   will take not only a year to plan but likely  years to do well and at the end of the day I   care about the kids and that's why I'm really  upset about this because if we don't implement   this well this harms the educational experience of  our kids so why not take the time to

270do this well   and to do it right and in my opinion the statement  of priorities is Dr fergus's report that does not   include language about d-leveling at this point  in time and so that's that's all I have to say I   just can't even believe that this is where we are  right now after all of this and getting to a point   where we're finally able to start complying with  the BPW settlement we're now using this for lack   of better terms as a distraction to the real work  that needs to get done right now in our district foreign I think we definitely didn't read the same report  and we absolutely didn't see the same presentation   because if you re-watch what Dr Fergus said at  the end of his presentation he said unambiguously   that heterogeneous groupings for student

271learning  is what is best homogeneous groupings of students   I.E leveling is what is easiest for adults and  he challenged each and every one of us sitting   in this board that we would have to stop centering  the comfort of adults over the needs of students   you cannot tell me one single piece of educational  research or evidence that points to leveling   as a sound practice that  supports students at either level   furthermore our leveling in this district is a  farce our access and Equity policy back in 2018   removed the ability for us to place students in  any classroom honors AP or otherwise based on any   academic measure that those students have produced  so my child's sitting in eighth grade right now   could get straight D's on his report card for  every year of his middle school experience   could

272have data showing that he is severely under  grade level in reading and in mathematics and as   a parent I have the right at the end of his middle  school experience to log into PowerSchool and sign   him up for every honors class there is that is  my right so teachers are already differentiating   instruction every single day in our honors courses  and in all of the courses at CHS because there are   kids currently sitting in all of those courses of  incredibly varied ability levels and performance   levels so this is a sham that adults are trying  to protect that adults who have elected some of   us here on this board have told you not to touch  and so for you to clutch pearls and somehow claim   that this is about what's best for students  that is what's shameful

273so I invite you to   stop hiding behind process because process was  followed at every step of the way and instead   I would invite you to be open and transparent and  allow the community to read this document which is   not a leveling policy but a seven page document  that actually codifies much of the work that is   already in progress in this district and secondly  takes many of Dr fergus's recommendations which I   believe that you care deeply about and puts them  into policy so that they are not only subject to   a monitoring agreement are not only subject  to a board's will or a superintendent's will   but are that policy that must maintain itself  over time and stop hiding behind whatever fear   you have of the the community actually reading  this document and having a chance to have

274it say   I just want to say if you could point to  the settlement term because settlement term   3A and the all of the recommendations are  listed in school boards in the resolution   it says Foster heterogeneous heterogeneous  student collaboration and math instruction   in elementary and middle school math courses  equip Educators to create opportunities for   students of different abilities backgrounds and  learning styles to collaborate and work together   on math tasks that's the only location where he  even uses the word heterogeneous and talks about   so if if it's a recommendation you know yeah  I'm a little bit heated Courtney because for   two years that I've been on this board we have  not been compliant now we have a framework that   was given to us by an expert to say this  is what needs to get done right now

275here   are the priorities and what you're proposing  takes so much time and effort that we're not   going to even be able to touch this and in three  years from now I know you won't be on the board   and I likely won't be either it's going to be  another board's problem but that's three extra   years where we don't have system in place these  systems in place to help our kids it's not about   a legacy for the board it's about making sure  that our kids are given the resources that they   need to succeed in this district and for you  to think that this is a priority in Trump's   everything that this man and his team at Rutgers  University put together that's actually astounding   so art so this boards believe that their viewpoint  on what a priorities should

276be should override   someone who we had legally required to come in and  do this work and provide a statement of priorities   that we are mandated to accomplish that takes  less of a precedence in your mind I would invite   you to have a conversation with Dr Fergus I'm  sure you can ask him what he believes about the   presence of leveling in particular when it comes  to racial disparities and academic outcomes please   please please reach out to him reach out to him  and have that conversation but people need to   understand the way the settlement reads we there's  recommendations that were made by Dr Fergus the   district had to approve those recommendations Dr  uh BPW had to approve the recommendations those   two things happen and now as a board those  recommendations were sent to Justice Wallace   and we

277are in the monitoring phase document I'm  familiar with the process the recommendations and   the monitoring agreement is the floor it's not  the seal for the work and the obligation that   we have as a district to address these issues and  yes those recommendations are in the policy that   the public should have a chance to read but  they are the floor they are not the ceiling   and they are not the end-all be-all of what we  must do as a district to address these issues so as I said I knew this was going to  be a spirited debate and it sure is   um but you know I just want to say that I'm I'm  open to having a special meeting that speaks to   all this you know I spoke to Patrick and he even  shared that if he

278were a parent in this District   he would want to hear from Dr Taylor what this  looks like you know how this would even occur   how would we roll it out um and and I'm totally  in agreement with that you know I would love to   see a presentation and I would love to you know  uh hear from Somaya but I will say you know we   keep going back to Dr Fergus whose recommendations  we hold to a golden standard but I just I know I   sent this email to the board already so they're  very aware of these um quotes but I again we're   all talking about Dr fergus's recommendations but  when I asked him about leveling's effects on our   student population these three quotes these are  his these are his quotes and I want the public to  

279to hear this again because not everybody had the  time to to watch the whole presentation grouping   students by ability is easier for the adults  but the reality is it's not good for the kids   having heterogeneous grouping in classrooms  is going to be a lift for the adults   but it's not what our kids need for their  learning exposure last we have to really   consider and recognize that the improvements  we have to do in terms of integration for this   society that we promised ourselves 75 years ago  that we wanted to create that we need to do that   work for them rather than the Comforts of adults  and you know this is getting very passionate   um I I understand that but you know  this issue is what politicized me   I sit down in those classes and we're  talking

280about you know oh you know that   this it could be planned failure what we're  doing right now is planned failure [Music] and we're having a discussion like we can  discuss this until the end of the world   nothing is changing in the classroom right now  and that's my concern we can sit up here and   talk about de-leveling all you want I taught  differentiated instruction my entire career   so I know it I train okay for our teachers here  or in any other District to try and and come in   within the next year two years to do the leveling  it ain't happening and everybody needs to know   that folk it ain't happening but what will happen  is we follow what we need to do or maybe we don't   know how to implement what we need to implement  for

281our children since we haven't done it in   four years let's be clear we need to move on we  don't need another project for a project another   meeting for a meeting we need to deal with our  children that's what we ought to be discussing   here and that is not that's for the administration  what are you going to do we all know what the   problems are how do you deal with it do you have  the bandwidth that should be the question I'm done   oh and by the way I was talking about um board  Legacy right to be dock it get this down L Dash 7026-91 docket number the South Orange Maplewood  School District was found guilty of seven counts   of discrimination and 11 culpable charges so we  know we discriminate against children and so we   put these

282things off all the time we have to do  the work I don't like sitting here discussing the   leveling when we've already been through this it's  not going to help our children right now you can't   continue to to to to educate like it's 1990 like  it's 1960. we're in 2023 children are learning   differently all the time our teachers are trying  their best to do the things that they can do all   of this comes back on them are we bringing them  into the conversation that we bring the teachers   into the conversation about the Freshman program  no we didn't it failed now we're bringing them in   and now we're about to do something else so we're  always putting that cart before the horse we need   to to to effectuate effective change and it's  not coming with de-leveling that's

283so long ago   okay and we know because we've been waiting before  everybody else did it when we had a blue ribbon in   this District we tried everything to make things  right and we thought so that you are the doctor   that you are today let's keep waiting then we  work because that's what we've been doing well   like we we've been waiting you  said okay let's keep pushing it off I'm speaking we've always kicked the can down the road  we kicked the can down the road and we was   kicking kicking the can down the road and then the  question is when listening to this conversation   what my biggest fear of creating this Committee  of the whole is that we Silo the work that we're   doing by saying nope that's too big that's too  wide we need to

284only focus on settlement things   when the action the actual work of equity is  much wider and broader and should be part of   the conversation at all times D leveling is not  one of Dr fergus's recommendations but that should   not be the only focus of this board this board  should be focused on helping like helping as   many students as possible and the idea that we say  well we can't have de-leveling I was here in 2018   when we actually de-leveled or we cut down the  number of levels and I remember you you missed   board member right when you said you actually  voted against it basically because you said   they'll say they de-level but they're still going  to stick your kids in this place and these other   kids in another place yes and so are we going  to

285keep are we gonna I'm just gonna say okay   well look what happened again and then say okay  well we don't want to D level anymore let's not   have this conversation we need to actually start  moving forward in that direction we didn't go far   enough and we have to keep we have to finish  the job and so I I think it's very important   the last thing that I'll say is that because the  question that was raised to Dr Fergus was around   d-level and he shared his opinion the fact that he  is supportive of that and did it right right into   the recommendations would lead anyone to believe  that he doesn't think we can do it successfully   unless these other 23 things that we are legally  required to do happen because otherwise he could   have easily had

286written it in as one of the  recommendations and that's where I want to leave   it we're going to move on to the action portion  of the meeting you're absolutely grasping Caitlyn so I mean listen I I I'm not by far any by means  any by any means an expert in cni but one thing   I'm seeing is that it definitely is an overlap  between the spirit of what Dr Fergus said they   may not be exactly in the language that he put  forward in recommendations and the spirit in   which bill is using his experience to talk very  passionately I mean this is I I just wrote him   an email saying that I am very well impressed  the wrong word because I'm not impressed I'm   very touched by the no no that's that's it  I'm not judging her

287no I'm not judging you   yes I'm not I'm not judging you by saying you  are impressive but I was very yeah I was moved   exactly I was very moved by your very personal  experience and how you are getting behind this so   I think it is and also one one step back I think  the process is fine it went to the committee   committee looked at it it wanted to the policy  committee and therefore it's very eligible for   streets so as far as the process is concerned you  cannot say process didn't work yeah whether what   so I think I am in agreement that let's bring It  Forward let's put it out there I'm just like we've   had visceral reaction there's gonna be a visceral  reaction from the public from Community there are   lots of people who believe

288it's a good thing lots  of people who believe it's a bad thing that's okay   so I think it's okay to bring it up there and get  feedback and use certainly that's what we've done   and I do agree that listen policy comes before  implementation I mean we can put the policy   out there and it's first it we are not proposing  something that is out of values with our community   we're putting something in there that actually  is can be discussed and if the community comes   back with a very large good reason saying that no  this is not something we should pick up right now   maybe we should not be focusing on that it's  fine I just want to put on the record that I   had certain changes that I asked for and I don't  know if they

289were made so I just need policy to   communicate on that and it can be a conversation  later but I just don't feel comfortable there were   a number of things some of the things in the  policy we we have they're mentioned in other   policies that I want us to link to I mean it's  a seven page document like it's going to need a   couple of look overs and what I'm just trying to  say is I'm realizing that the sentiment is that   there were no changes and I'm and that's I want  it on the record that that's not true I had sent   requests I don't think that those requests were  discussed in cni because there was a lot of other   things discussed and that's my concern is that I  think a lot of my requests were valid

290and I think   it should be taken into account and go on and go  to policy to review so that it can go back to us   so we can look at it together so I'm just asking  if we can talk about that more offline thank you   and we would and we would discuss that those   and we no no and I think that we should talk  offline I think we should talk before the policy   committee meeting but those could definitely be  incorporated and you you could be you know anybody   that wants to come to that committee meeting  could come to it to you know contribute no I'm   inviting you Mama you're not allowed okay well  I think I think the missing link is I'm sorry   you're right yeah so anyway we can table that  and hopefully we

291can get some next steps okay   so let's move on to the action portion of the  meeting I'll turn it over to Dr Taylor sorry I   have to get my committee read out oh sorry I'm  so sorry that took sorry about that I apologize all right so the dating technology committee met  on September 19th at 5 30 PM it was attended by   myself board member valmani and board member  wingfeld um our topics of discussion included   the ssds data review we want to discuss ways  to standardize and make the presentation clear   as well as having the goal of creating sort of a  template so that the district can create basically   a five-year overview that we can look at with  every time we get the ssds data like presentation   we know what we're getting and then we can 

292look at those Trends and discuss those Trends   um the next thing we discussed was transportation  in particular we were looking at discussing I   guess the idea of a database looking at addresses  across town and looking at ways that we can use   something like variance because we have these  different software packages that we are piloting   where we have one that we use versatrans we're  also piloting another software package and we   also have the county coming in to do measures  if uh if a household demands it or requests it   and we can actually compare these values and then  get a variant to see how accurate is our software   and if we need to make any changes but there  are still some discussion about whether what   what else can go into this database and whether it  is still

293necessary um the next thing we discussed   was Data reports around District goals so we  kind of discussed which district goals would we   have would require District data reports including  special uh our goal and special services student   achievement and access and Equity so um that  was just the meeting that we had any questions all right and our special services  meeting was held on the 27th at 6 30 PM oh   that was such a like a boring committee meeting  I mean nobody fought nobody walked away nobody   is abusing anyone everyone agrees  you're doing great that's great work   yeah I will so maybe maybe all the good  work is really happening in this community   yes it was a very efficient meeting and then we  had another efficient meeting yesterday special   services was held yesterday in the 27th at

2946 30 PM  intended by myself board member Eckerd and board   member right um so the first thing we discussed  was the referral process so we want to basically   have uh data reports that come to special services  so that we can see demographic info the referral   process timeline who is assortion referral and  also cross-checking that data with PowerSchool   so we can identify disparities um the next thing  we discussed was coverage in special education   and basically whom should parents contact so we  discussed basically the department ensuring that   there's more proactive communication as well  as the coverage done by um Mr Johnson Miss   Tommy Miss Ellis and Mr Mullen um after that we  discussed special education teacher vacancies   um I know that Personnel is following up on this  but for special education or special service if   you want

295to make sure that we are given updates  during each meeting on the current vacancies   and we'll also just follow up on the vacancies  and coverage at um that this that the schools   are doing and then finally we discussed some  issues with Transportation just to make sure   that students are getting assistance they  need particularly for district placements   and then yes and we were a very efficient  meeting and we had a very spirited discussion [Laughter]   do we have any questions for Dr  tillisford about social services work okay I know I know you support it but I think  that you didn't support the current program   as it was going to be implemented and  I agreed with your with your assessment   so we will now move on to the  action portion of the meeting   all right good evening everyone

296um there were  laughs it's still Thursday eight more minutes   right yeah right so um a couple of I received no  requests to sever any item just confirming that   if you have any requests this ever  um board member of all the money um I'd like to sever four five  one nine four five one nine   any other requests to sever to approve  the revised Boe ad hoc committees for   the 2023 calendar year is four five one nine oh I  actually and it's three four five two zero sorry four five two zero um board members if you  refresh your screen um the the hand carriers   have been added I believe to your agendas  just double checking that all right sorry   um Patrick can Alyssa vote on four five two zero not four five two zero four five sorry

297include APW settlement implementation yeah   but we are updating the negotiations  committee so can I vote on that part   can you splue yeah okay okay so I just wanna  that's fine so again board members please   refresh your your agenda today just to be sure  we're on the same page the requests confirming   um four five one nine revised board ad  hoc committees is severed there was also   a request to sever four five two zero  the sidebar agreement am I incorrect now so we're just severing four five one nine no  other requests just confirming all right board   members I put before you for your consideration  resolutions four five zero six through four five   two zero excluding four five one nine  which is severed do I have a second second   foreign okay we're now open for discussion on  those

298aforementioned resolutions uh born member   malispina I would like to just point out 4518 and  um I appreciate everybody's uh support so far that   I have gotten on this uh resolution I think  it's very important that we pass a resolution   especially with um October next week being ban  Book Week talking about how we as South Orange   Maplewood School District believe in the right  to read and that the freedom to select reading   materials for oneself is a fundamental Cornerstone  of democracy um it mirrors what just occurred in   the Essex County and um I know that West Orange  and other districts are looking to do something so   I I think it is a really powerful resolution for  us to support so I appreciate the support on that I just want to say I appreciate you putting that  together

299I can't wait to support it thank you that's our question okay we will then go  ahead and and take action on these resolutions board member winkfield yes board member valimani yes  board member Deval Wilson yes   board member right yeah board member telesford  yes board member Mouse Pina board member Acker   yes board member Gifford yes board  president what letter yes motions passed   thank you board members um we do have hand  carries but before we get to those we present   to you four five one nine do I have a second  second okay we are not open for discussion   for resolution 4519 which is to approve the  revised Boe ad hoc committees just as a reminder   um as previously mentioned it would be introducing  a Fergus implementation committee that would be a   committee of the whole obviously not

300with  board member malice Mina and then also it   would be updating the negotiations committee  also confirming that the negotiations chair   will be board member Wingfield through the  rest of this year uh board member valimani so the idea of having a committee that looks  after the implementation of the settlement is   a good idea there's nothing wrong with that  it's a very good idea but the problem I have   with this resolution and the way it's set up is  that it's meeting monthly as a special committee   this is like saying that I'm tracking Sun  Sports and I won't take measurements every   day it does not make sense this is a long-term  process where if you measure very frequently   you get incorrect measurements so I think the  the smallest amount of time you should spend on   meeting is maybe

301a quarter if not six months and  if you don't forget I mean we are already having   two updates from the superintendent in June  in January and July on this exact same thing   so in my opinion I mean we're just wasting our  time by having a committee and now a committee   of the whole and you know everyone's going to  sit together for an hour two hours and listen to   updates every month where they may not be really  any updates so yes unless you're saying that let's   get together you know two minutes walk away that's  different so my problem is not with the intent of   the committee but the weight is structured so  I would be extremely I would be happy to vote   for this if you made it a quarter even that is  debatable but yes

302I'll take a compromise I'll take   a quarter I'll be happy to vote for it but we're  meeting him twice a year anyway the district's   gonna show up January and July the reason why it's  structured as a special committee is because it   has a specific objective with a specific timeline  so according to our bylaws it is it meets the   definition of what a special committee would  be versus what's defined by an ad hoc committee   which I believe engages like community members and  you know et cetera et cetera so that's why it's   spelled out as a special committee and my personal  viewpoint on the Cadence of meeting is that right   now I think it's so important we meet monthly  because of all the things we just discussed we   don't know what the district's vision is and how 

303we're going to implement and how we're going to do   it over the three years and I think it's better  for us to be a little bit more Hands-On to have   that understanding especially as Justice Wallace  will receive his first presentation as will we in   January um that we have a hand on all of this  if we feel more comfortable and the timelines   are being met then I think it is a good idea  to scale back but in the immediate short-term   I think it's necessary to  have the monthly meetings Dr telesford and then board member Deval Wilson  I guess one of the concerns I had with this   committee is that I feel as though there's going  to be replicated work a lot of the recommendations   are things that fall under different umbrellas for  instance some of

304it is cni some of it is Personnel   so you could have an update within those within  those committees and then you're going to have   another update in the the committee of the whole  so are we just repeating things over again and   so then my question is how are we what  what would be the difference between work   that's done for say cni and then the work  that's done in the committee of the whole   what would be different what update would you  have in cni that you would not have in this   Committee of the whole is there something  that'd be overlapping or non-overlapping the way I see it and I mean we haven't I think  this person we've actually been able to talk   about it um together as a team but the way I see  it is

305cni cni and there's like a laundry list of   things that they have to talk about every month  same with fft you know jokingly we do normally   meet until like 10 o'clock 11 o'clock at night  this is a meeting where that document that the   district created that has everything lined up  in columns with what was in the settlement what   Dr Burke has recommended what we have already  done what we haven't and how the district's   going to move forward that is our agenda and  that document is like three or four pages long   um also I just looking at the liaise looking at  our committee chart right now the way this chart   is written sorry let me back up my suggestion is  let's see how this goes we've got October November   December right January we got a vote

306on this again  we might decide hey you know what let's make this   quarterly we will have data and experience to  inform right now we don't really know what we   don't know so my suggestion is let's vote on this  we all want to move forward and do it do what's   right and realize that we'll have a chance in  three four months in January to reevaluate yeah   I'm just saying that I don't think my question was  quite answered though because my point was that   by having a monthly Cadence you're going to have  some work that's going to have to overlap because   you're going to have some sort of change in  curriculum that is called for by the by the   by the recommendations how do you not cover that  in cni and then not cover it within the

307committee   so I think yes if we have a monthly Cadence  there's going to be overlap now maybe there   might maybe there may not be overlap in  this very early portion because it's about   discussing implementation and having these  other goals in mind but if let's just say   you were going to do this for three years  there's going to be overlap and there's   going to be this redundancy that I think that we  should be mindful of there's overlap in all of   our committees you know for example we talking  Personnel about Staffing shortages for special   education classrooms but then in Special Services  you guys drill on that and from a different angle   um fft you know this is going to impact fft  and the amount that we have to allocate from   a budget perspective having this as a

308monthly  meeting Keeps Us top of Mind anyone who's a   chair who come attends this meeting is bringing  that back and making sure that this is a standing   agenda item where are we on settlement  term I will say that a bullet you know two   um and so I think the idea of all of our  committees is that we overlap and that   we don't function as silos in my opinion this  is an opportunity for us because frankly what   we've been doing is not enough like getting a  quick five-minute recap in our closed session   meetings has not been substantial in making sure  that we're moving the needle on the work and so   with the amount of work that has to get done in a  three-year period having this oversight look as a   board we're limited on what we

309can control this  is something that we can control to have this   extra layer of oversight to the nubia's point  let's do it for a few months if it doesn't work   we can revisit it um but I don't see why there's  this hesitancy to move forward on it and if you   feel that way I think at this point to vote but  I guess I want to make the point that when I do   see those redundancies that is a problem so I did  see us having special education like talking about   special education vacancies while also there are  other topics related to Personnel that I didn't   think were appropriate for the committee and  because they were overlapping so yes I do think   that is a problem when we do have that type of  overlap because it's redundant we

310have to remember   that we're having the administration come in and  having them do the same thing over and over again   they have we want them to do the work and just  talking to us is not part of that work necessarily   so we should try and really make sure  they are focused on implementation   board member right you know I I'm just thinking  maybe had we done this before we wouldn't be   sitting here now we we tried to vote on the  same thing earlier on and it didn't pass I can   remember that the um the president of the village  trust he's asking should we form have you formed   what do you think about forming a committee with  this it is the perfect thing to do we kept our   eyes off of this for three years trusting I

311don't  trust so this committee is very important for me   I've seen too much I know too much and  we need this oversight that's it it's   not hurting anyone and if you don't want  to attend the meeting you don't have to   right okay don't need to and you know voted  no before you can vote Nova game can we get   to this because I want to go home uh  Mr Burnside can you take role on this I mean we need to discuss this till we come to  a reasonable conclusion about what's happening   we're not sitting here and worrying about I  need to go home and I need to get out early   and all that I mean that's just disrespectful  to all of us we're all here no I am done with   this country no excuse me okay

312guys listen  everything is spelled out in the document   it's the first time actually that anyone who's  proposed a committee has put something together   to outline what it is and what the intention  what the objective is and what the timeline   is it's all there for everyone to see no one  has reached out with feedback other than to   say that they were not interested in informing a  committee at this point we're going to move that   is absolutely not correct hang on hang on hang  on I got to reply back to this I said Mr Burnside   detailed response to everything you said and I  said exactly the same thing what I said wrong   the committee makes sense the committee no the  committee makes sense so don't say they've got   no feedback I mean I gave detailed feedback  like

313and the second problem I have which   I've again told you in feedback is that the  name of the committee makes no sense Heaven   call it the equity report committee I mean we  are not forming committees around one person   no person is bigger than the board I mean the  district and the students that's our number   one thing so maybe you want to call it improved  students committee I mean they call it whatever   else you want what is Dr Fergus committee I mean  it makes no sense to have that name so you know I   mean think think through the law think through  all the problems that are there in what you've   just put together in this resolution the name is  wrong the Cadence is wrong right and and you're   just well duplicating yes I mean yes but

314my two  my two points were very simple the name is wrong   the kid is wrong okay thank you for your opinion  may we please call the roll on this thank you board member valimani no board member  right yeah board members of all Wilson yes   board member Mouse Pina sorry president  with letter yes board member hacker yes   board member Wingfield yes board member telesford  yes board member Gifford yes motion passes   thank you coming around on your hand carries oh  great okay I forgot about that thank you Dr Taylor hi board members again you have two hand  carries we'll do the one at a time uh the   first hand carry is resolution four five  two one HIV appeal do I have a second we can't discuss because it's a  hip appeal so we'll just go to vote

315for president will let her yes board  member valamani yes board member right yes   board member tell usford yes board member  Gifford yes board member Duval Wilson   yes board member Mouse Pina yes board  member Wingfield yes board member Eckard   yes motion passes the second hand carry  resolution 4522 approve special counsel we'll go to vote do I have a second sorry all  right I think we just go to vote right Mr Burnside Board number five the money yes for president  with letter yes board member Wingfield yes   board member Gifford yes board member of mouse  Pina yes board member Duvall Wilson yes board   member Eckert yes board member talisford yes board  member right motion passes okay that now concludes   the action portion of the meeting we're moving on  to the second hearing of individuals and delegates   um I

316just want to see if we have anyone  who please sign it up please there's no   one there and I don't oh okay we've got  the Lone Survivor we got Jeffrey Bennett [Music] um I'm um I've come to speak about issues with  middle school placement and transportation and   suggest ways that the Board of Ed and  administration can make improvements   um like with the elementary schools placement  in middle school is a unilateral decision by   the district without any parental input  and it's totally random which children   are assigned to the more distant School although  there is a skew where low income kids are more   likely to place be placed in the distant  School the Assumption behind sixth grade   placement is that all families want the closer  School hence that's where lottery winners are   assigned however like with the

317elementary  schools I think this assumption is flawed   there are many families in Soma who live over  2.0 miles from one middle school but are still   fairly distant but below 2.0 miles from the other  middle school for some of these children going to   the more distant Middle School might actually be  preferred since it comes with a bus whereas if   they went to the closer Middle School they might  still have to walk or be driven up to 1.99 miles   um there are additional problems if a family  gets a tough placement for elementary school   there is no guarantee that they won't also get a  tough placement again for middle school because   elementary and middle school placement are totally  independent is it fair that if a family has an   elementary school that they didn't prefer that  they also get

318a non-preferred middle school too   there is also a problem with sibling placement  which hasn't come up if your children are in   grades that are three years apart so you have  children in grade 8 in grade five your younger   child would go through the triple eye Lottery  again might be placed at the other Middle School   some families might be glad this happened if the  older child's placement was bad for them but other   families would be disappointed since they would  lose the connection they had with that Middle   School if the family has three kids or four kids  space three grades apart they would go through the   Triple A Lottery again and again and again there's  also a need for additional Transportation support   the administration of Michael Alves Alves have  emphasized that 85 percent of middle school kids  

319go to the closer school which is important but it  does have a downside because the 15 of kids who   go to the more distant school will not have may  not have any neighbors who go to the same school   if they're almost two miles from the  school they would not realistically be   able they may not be able to find an easy  carpool it would be easy Hardware range   some of the solutions here are the same as for the  elementary schools we should at least ask families   what their preference or need is most kids are  going to want the closer school but not all will   we should have a waitlist transfer process many  kids who sign up for grade six don't enroll let   kids who didn't get their first preference or need  take spots from on enrolled

320to make it Equitable   have the weightless transfer process be automatic  like Cambridge and Montclair we could also have   a process like Montclair Harris where unused bus  seats are given to kids just under the threshold   if they use existing bus stops Don't Force kids  to have to watch half empty buses pass them by   we should also have Elite Boston Middle School  up for middle school after school activities   and tutoring even more important they are in  elementary school and sometimes the lack of a   late bus might hinder their ability to participate  in that and I see my times up thank you very much um I think that's it for in-person  public speaks so right okay   um so that includes our public speaks  Dr Taylor did you want to respond or   just that I always appreciate the feedback

321um uh  the um I think that the notion that students can't   have friends outside their neighborhood  is something that I don't agree with   um the fact that I think that we have to as a as  a board and as a community when we created the   triple I and took it around and talked to everyone  and we addressed those top five or five maybe even   10 concerns from families including thousands  of people who responded to surveys about it   um the most important thing that parents told us  was that if they had siblings they wanted them to   be together that that would be a hardship  to have kids in the same grade span apart   they also spoke about you know the importance  of phasing it through which is why we do the   triple I beginning in kindergarten

322at sixth  grade I think that you know there can always   be things that individual families would want or  prefer but we try to look at the entire scope of   the triple I and the impact of it and the reason  why we're doing it and even when we have to say   no to families we also share with them the things  that benefit them from the triple I mean we stand   by them and they're research based but I always  appreciate when you share the thoughtful feedback   and ideas they don't go on deaf ears we can talk  afterwards we can talk afterwards no problem okay thank you very much we're now moving on  to the new business portion of the meeting   does anyone have new business for this evening um  Dr telesford and then uh board member melisbina  

323I just have a comment for us as a board we  really should have more decorum we can have   very spirited discussion but we should never get  personal attack each other laugh at each other   snort or chortle at each other when anything is  happening in here that's what makes this a strong   body is that we have respect for each other so  I just want to really make sure that you know   we need to be respect each other be  respectful to each other we can disagree   but then be respectful in our disagreements yep  I agree with you um board member Mouse Spina um   I'd like to move back I guess we're going to  discuss good new business I don't know if it's uh well I'm making a motion that we have a special  meeting related to the

324report and everything or is   it better that we just do it at the next committee  yeah yeah okay forget it I'll think about it yeah I'm sorry all right okay forget it all right  seeing none closing new business um with that   I'd like to make the following motion the Board of  Education will meet in public session on Tuesday   October 17 2023 at 6 30 PM in the district meeting  room 525 Academy Street immediately following the   opening of public session the board moved to go  into a closed session in the superintendent's   office as well as using an online video conference  platform to discuss Personnel matters within the   attorney client privilege legal negotiations  and other matters that may arise and require   discussions to be announced at a later date  immediately following the closed session the board   of

325educational meet and public session estimated  to be 7 30 PM in the district meeting room in 525.   um in person utilizing online video conference  platform which will include hearing of individuals   the community can view the meeting by following  the steps which will be listed on the agenda   um may I have a second all in favor that appears  to be unanimous so Mr Burnside I would now like   to make a motion to adjourn this meeting on Friday  September 29th at 12 30 a.m oh sorry 12 20 a.m may   I have a second all in favor meeting is adjourned  thank you and save travels home everything

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