001we do have the sound on now so Mike is live got to relax a little this summer working too much too many other things going on we got out camping a couple times oh that's good where you guys go to Camp uh one we were down in the mountain Southern Utah my wife down there and her family and then the other we just up at um I like to Camp right after Labor the email that came out today is not on here for any discussion or action [Music] remember the meeting is live the emaila you sent about whatever funding thing tax I send something today was it today or earlier and um the toad something oh right I did send that no that's not for discussion it was just for you to take a look
002at yeah that's fine I like to Camp after yeah that's my favorite course the harvesting is over right things are way calm down ready go pH on everybody's [Music] here got a little so [Music] minutes w l tra like that's didn't notice that yes oh you got yeah gotta go there that's beautiful I'm good we're just talking about say it again have you 45 minutes from I probably have my sister went to Joseph area oh yeah sister graduated from boys born there yeah that's but we got to got to wait till the Smoke Clear so you can go up on is all of orans on fire might be October kind of beautiful day today though honestly visibility but it looks like smoke is coming in so long range are so much longer now once the
003nights get to like 11 almost 12 hours I never reminded everyone about a meeting my junior go ended a week ago and I've just kind of for even though people are like are you g do bre well I don't know the golf course is more busy than it's everybody I've noticed that parking oh it is it's crazy it's just for your information everybody this is as of today there won't be any necessarily any discussion wow is that because of Kinder oh it's just growing we're looking at second grade now too as being close to being having to add another feature oh my goodness the new houses seem to be in that area so y well if you can take me off the board can we test no not yet but we're in Apprentice school so
004I could be ance yeah you let me try it one more time if you will keep that wow need that look at that and go ahead can you hear us wow I can't can you hear me okay I can yep are we clear enough for you you guys are crystal clear okay thank you I'm gonna go ahead and mute this while we go into the other part of the meeting and then I'll unmute when we get to that portion w y that works perfect thank you y thanks good we're ready to go thank you everyone for coming we want to excuse Gina and recognize that Alicia CR is sitting as our oh help me thank you clerk but we'll start with the pledge I pled alance to the flag of the United States of America
005and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice [Music] all right thank you everyone who wanted to come tonight let's move on I would entertain a motion to approve the agenda I move that we um approve the agenda second thank you all those in favor say hi hi hi hi hi we also want to excuse Derek he is not with us tonight and it looks like we do have a signed in visitor we have Mrs Galloway who's going to talk to us about school overcrowding I really not plan to speak tonight until I found out that purple sage has to add a fourth third grade classroom this year uh the third grade classes will be seriously overcrowded until a new teacher can be found and hired and
006I've been told there's not even a class room available for the third grade that could be rumor if this is happening at Purple Sage I assume that the other two grade schools which are already way over capacity will have a new influx of students also this is not fair to our students and teachers you are counting on a school bond to pass you are counting on a new school which in my opinion will probably be overcrowded before it's even built and is three years away do you realize that the fire district is going to run their bonds every election until it passes and I assume the ambulance district will do the same I recently received an email from representative Russ vulture which stated that prices have surged 20% over the last three years forcing idahoans
007to spend $122,800 more annually just to buy Basics you've all been to the broch store not only have prices increased we pay more in sales tax due to these prases increases people are struggling and from my sphere of friends which are mostly senior citizens they are not going to vote for a school bond not because they don't want it they are concerned about their finances I filed a Freedom of Information um uh freedom freedom of information with Kenyon County for ages of Voters it's kind of interesting uh from 50 to 65 plus there were 13,905 voters from from 35 to 18 there were 5,132 of 13, 95 of those were 50 were from 50 to 65 plus plus with 65 plus being the largest voter [Music] block um where am I going what are you
008doing to um alleviate the overcrowding I come to almost all Schoolboard meetings and the overcrowding issue is rarely talked about it is your responsibility as a school board remember to make sure our students have a learning environment that is safe and conducive to learning I don't feel like we have that at the present time we need an interim solution to our overcrowding schools now what are you going to do if the bond doesn't pass and if it does pass what are you going to do until it is built thank you thank you thank you all right so let's move on I would entertain a motion to approve the consent agenda to approve the consent agenda the second that you have I just yeah sorry I should have said something but this policy 4110 are we
009updating that or have we already updated I didn't see it in this group no that's going on when we bring the next section of policies on that's the next section the next section so we we're letting this group get to the third reading and then we'll bring that next group in September okay and then um but that would be part of the policy that we wouldn't put a policy in the consent to sorry yeah no it's okay just wanted to make sure not not for you but but if anybody listen it would be the minutes and the minutes yes okay perfect nope are you good y all right so we had a first by Jake and a second by J all those in favor say I I I I I all right let's move on
010to discussion items Dr G is that you uh yes um the first out of state trip requests um we got more information from both the cross country team and the volleyball team as you saw that information in the packet is there any additional question or followup that the board would like I'm just curious a charter bus that costs that much it's just the space we don't have uh like if we take one of our buses then we end up not having routes we have routes that aren't being but we couldn't you we don't have enough bands we don't we only have one that can actually be used and if it's being used in other places then it can't be used probably golf stole it oh there well and it's not just 12 we also have
011FFA and other well I was comparing the one the the um cross country run they it wouldn't overlap no those two don't necessarily overlap but other activities that that aren't necessarily out of state but are going long distances okay that just seems like an awful lot of it is anytime we have we we try to schedule Charters as infrequently as possible it's the last option that we look at all right that's was my question okay anybody else any questions no was we've already discussed quite a bit the last meeting it was just to supplement our concerns so I some dollar amounts and so forth yeah and the number of people going the number of adults I mean they they I think honestly I think it's a good thing to to request and require that because
012if we don't have that you can't make a decision as a board and comfort it'll be better for going on because it'll become the expectation yes and I don't want parents to suddenly have to Fork out all this money because we just said sure yep um do we need to talk about C yes um so the last and this actually should be a separate letter it's not really part of the out ofate request but okay um the student Club trap shooting we did reach out to our attorney um and what her recommendation was is that um there are multiple schools that have that trap shooting um program within their schools already and that we work with them to establish what all the expectations and regulations would be you know just the the process the procedures
013to make sure that it's clear that students aren't bringing the firearms to school with them even if they're going to an activity after school you know those kinds of things would be put in place but they did not see a concern with moving forward with the club itself as long as we put those kind of rules in place and the the um presentation that you saw last uh month as you dig into that has most of those recommendations because this people have plowed this road before us so which I okay very good so unless had other specific questions the our attorneys felt comfortable moving forward do we need to approve it with yes that would be an action item but with those stipulations in there yes just that as long as there are as long
014as the the activity does not proceed until those rules and regulations can be formalized by the club membership you got that thank you perfect thank you kind of excited to see where that one will go yeah yeah all right let's move on to discussion Item B Mrs [Music] Goodson so as we've done the past few years we'll put together a schedule of the different assessment reviews um that I present to the board each month if there are any adjustments that you would like to make or if there's any information that you're seeking um additionally to what I provide I'm open to making sure that I'm answering all of your questions um in any in a manner that I can is this I didn't go back and look but is this pretty much the same as
015what you did last year it is okay yep um I think the only adjustment that we made is for next month I've added in our AP assessments from last spring and we have to put that in September because we w we actually don't receive those until early August the only request that I had I know it's kind of follow up from last year's and we're in a unique situation where we only have one Middle School we only have one high school so they're not competing against each other but I think it's fair to see the results from the three separate elementary schools especially where we have some concerns of overcrowding we'd like to see if that is affecting performance in one Elementary School versus another if that that isn't too much to that was just
016what I was just going to ask if maybe we could address that somehow I'm not sure what that would look like just so the public knows we're we're aware and it's and maybe what the process is and did that make sense I haven't been very good the only thing we you know and and we we'll just be we'll be sensitive with it as we put those reports out so that there's not a internal feel that we're trying to elevate one school over another but at the same time working on from that data to um establish policy that will make sure that one doesn't fall behind the other so it it'll just make will be a little bit sensitive in how we present that but I think it's worth I think so putting that out where
017we've got the overcrowding and some not yeah yeah I mean I wouldn't want to pit one school against the other but at the same time to have some more ammunition to go to the public and say hey look you know this is this is a good reason why we need another Elementary School I mean hopefully there's some if there is useful dat there I don't know it will be but it be worth a shot any well and I think it goes to what our um speaker said shared this evening that if there's because there's going to be time before any kind of elementary school is put in place what steps will we take to make sure that those students are receiving an adequate education absolutely yeah y we can do that thank you there any
018other changes or adjustments that you'd like me to make thank you y thank you nice that you you might have articulated a little better than me sometimes I have those ideas and kind of go I'm not going to save this right all right let's move on to discussion item C the site selection we have Mrs Van AER and Mr Nethers are you speaking together oh we'll probably tag [Music] very good and if I can just share prior to their starting the presentation um while we were looking to be able to make a decision um it's prob it's probably a little premature to make that based on two particular pieces of information one of those being that we have a meeting set on the 21st of this month with neighbors that we reached out to the
019homeowners associations will'll be holding that at 6:00 on the 21st at the star fire station um to be able to answer questions receive any question any input that the neighbors that show up for that meeting would like to share um we'll make sure that those homeowners associations have information so that if there's somebody that can't attend they know how they can provide that feedback to us um but Additionally the and Amber helped me if I mess up the timeline here the ter for one of these sites the teramore site we um it would be I think premature to make a decision before the subdivision has even been considered by I mean officially considered by star so I believe that's looking at did we say early October early October um is when they're looking to so
020I have a question is the meeting with just the neighborhoods just the neighborhoods for the teramore we didn't feel like we need to do the same meetings for the one on Meadow Park simply because it's been there and been a part of the discussion since the neighbors all came in okay but this is new a new site after a lot of those neighbors had in wanted to clarify no that's exactly right did you say September 21st or a a AUST August 21st at 6 o' and you think the building meeting people should be there building committee members should be there so it would be appropriate to have school board members but if there's more than two we would have to create that would be fantastic yeah 21st is a Wednesday it's a Wednesday I have
021a family obligation yeah start station okay sorry thank you Madam chair members of the board I think just to follow up a little bit on what Mark said about this meeting next week you know we'll be able to field questions as it relates to the actual School itself if that site was selected but you know there's not going to be a representative there from the developing side of that so all we can do would be just to take those comments and you know Circle back around with them hopefully be able to answer any questions that people may have or concerns that they have and that and that's been something that we even put out to the homeowners association as they were putting out that information that this is from the school's perspective only this is
022not you know we we don't have any information to share about the subdivision itself because we're not officials for that yeah all we can do is just you know try to answer those questions at least on some of the applications that we know they have submitted for but by no means are we representing the developer for any of those questions um but I do think it's appropriate for us to take down everybody's concerns and moving forward it does sound like they are hoping to at least get in front of the city of star you know in that in their October meeting so hopefully they're on track to do that um so what you guys have in front of you and the only graphic that we have is actually the the composite we're having some technical
023difficulties I'm not sure that what on my my fault I'm sure how I sent the files so from the last meeting that we had um we kind of went back and we were instructed to look at some site developments from a single story perspective a single story solution and then also a two-story solution and we did that for both sites and kind of analyzed those um and did some more indepth site uh site plan layout I don't want everyone to get hung up with that building footprint but in in all um four Graphics that we're going to kind of show you you know you're looking at a square footage of anywhere from 65,000 square feet up to you know 70,000 square feet and that's all we're still in that programming phase so this is just
024a good representation of analyzing these sites and making sure we have enough room and then doing those two comparisons um and then Nathan and his team also kind of looked at it from the lens of you know cost comparison so a single story solution to a twostory solution on the same site and then going through that same exercise on the terore site and looking at it from just a really high level 30,000 you know foot level from a cost perspective and the pros and cons of that so in your packets you do have enlarged versions of each of those sites that you know you'd be able to take a look at and in your free time if you've got additional questions um first off we'll do the the single story Solution on the teramore site
025which is you know approximately 11 acres um you know it does set up nicely to be able to have I'm just going to step over here it'll be easy for me to have you know those two drop off zones a bus Zone um you got your nice single story element interior some interior play areas a nice Northern exterior Hardscape and then you know pretty decent amount of Green Space um so that one I think you know both of these and if maybe if we lease a slide over to the the the two-story solution there you go um so this is this is a two-story footprint obviously the footprint print is a little bit less because we have a second floor on this so we do gain a little bit more green space we're still looking
026at the exact same parking lot configuration so that that doesn't change too much what does change is the opportunity for some more exterior play area um but really comparing these two s these two solutions on this site they're very very similar to each other um and I think Nathan if you want to just talk about some of the cost pieces sure uh you know on the single story obviously uh single stories you're not you're not having to pay for any sort of convey elevators stairs you have less building skin than you do with the twostory now the twostory if we condense that that footprint down as Amber said we'll recognize some savings and footings and Foundations and slab on grade and and essentially building footprint but then you're putting more money into a taller structure
027right so there's you're money into your skin and your windows and your your shars and and your elevators um really this the teror side is extremely attractive because it's it's flat comparatively speaking to um to the other option so far less earth work uh utilities being brought in by the developer essentially stuffed into the site so significant Runway of work already done by others and and being able to tie into that uh is it's a huge benefit both for cost and should be overall shorter construction schedules without holding you to anything what would you say is the percentage increase over a single to a to a two story just got dollar sign you see it there's one dollar sign and I I hate to I hate to even answer that I mean largely depends on
028really how condensed we can get with a footprint right if we get really efficient right you can you can make that still be a good value proposition but it's it's still going to be more you're not going to get away from stairs you're not 20% 25% 30% I I doubt it's that much okay right and then you're also you're taking that money and you getting a much larger playground heartscape area but but there's there's money's added cost there as well sure right so it largely comes down almost to a value proposition I mean budget's always been a factor but but where where where does the district want to put its money well you know if I have to stare somebody in the face it's that's paying taxes on this I don't want to tell them
029that I've got a$2 million set of stairs right so that's really it's a non-teaching area right yeah yeah it's it's uh so no I appreciate that that's helps yeah I think what we what we try to do when there really is a discussion about do you want to go single story do you want to go two story you're GNA save your money in the site development and in this analysis we're we're still analyzing the exact same acreage so you're not getting that that Savings of dollars by going to an 8 side or something like that let's say with a two story solution so that that is where I think if you were just to take the building single story two story compare building alone your two story structure is going to cost you more that's
030pretty cool yeah and building on that you know if we're looking for um that smaller footprint with a two-story building I don't know that that really becomes an issue unless we feel like go we just really need more playground space and we really need more green space but is there I mean you guys have done so many elementary schools you have a formula like how much room per student or or can you give us a feel how this Compares with all the other elementary schools as far as the building is concerned or the site the site in the green space and playground space Oh no I I feel very comfortable with an 11 Acre Site and probably can take it down to a 10 Acre Site for this this enrollment and feel comfortable you start
031to dip below that when you're looking at 700 kids or plus you know Unfortunately they just destroy grass when you get that many little feet running around so we try not to get much below that that 10 to to 9 Acre Site what's the projected uh number of students that would shoot 700 700 700 okay so this is there should be plenty of either footprint plenty of room for 700 yes okay so we can go um to the other sites than the spendy site yeah you know unfortunately and I and I really do like um the metal Park site just because you know the topography from our perspective does add a lot you you can do some really neat things with a slow site like this unfortunately um it costs a lot of money to
032move that amount of of Earth um and because of our access is a little different on this site we end up chewing up quite a bit with just access roads and trying to make parking lots work and and you know you're all familiar with this just but just to recap you know the site slopes dramatically from this Northwestern Corner down to the Southeastern corner and drops about 20 fet which from a site development perspective is is substantial even though it's a larger site um we do have you know very large irrigation easement through here that you know we can't actually put a building on um and then there's there's actually restrictions a little bit with if we were to come in and do some of this Hardscape I think we could we could probably still
033do it but it would be there would be some criteria around that with the Irrigation District um so again we we looked at doing a single story solution and a twostory solution and the idea here that we had is that we would actually tiar this site so the parking lots and the whole building footprint would be up on a you know basically at this elevation and then we would drop down you know at the the lower CL areas and end up with a series of stairs and ramps to get down to those plate structures so so what does that look like I'm just thinking snowed right I mean what does that look like for Access like if there's a bus that goes down the hill and can't get back up the hill is there another
034ESS out of this lower area or both of these would still be tiered on on the same elevation so all of your access your access around the building this would all be at that higher elevation and this this red line is kind of designating where we would you would have you know a series of retaining walls and you know you would be able to stand up here from a from a supervision perspective I think it would be great you know faculty member could sit right here and you would be able to see all of that um unfortunately we've got to provide access down there so there's going to be stairs and ramps and to provide that access so it would be an exercise for Nathan and his team to decide do you just grade this
035whole side up which was the original design with a large retaining wall along that um Eastern southern boundary or do you do something like this you know you're moving dirt no matter what and um that's what makes the site expensive too and there's also you know from from about here well it's about here on the roadway still needs to be developed um we do have SE available but it's going to require a Lo station um which obviously is expensive and you know a maintenance commitment for the district over the years and from from a construction ASP aspect I me really the head I mean it's it's either way you you you do it either the the concept she has there or building the entire site up and pushing the retaining wall out it's a significant
036amount of earth work that has to be done um inherently that's your biggest risk when you're building a project is is moving Earth and weather conditions and things that you find in the dirt that you weren't expecting to find um and I think you know from a from a construction aspect there's a significant amount of money and time spent on again those nonteaching areas right there's a lot of offsite work that has to be done in order to get utilities toer there's retaining walls there's all these ramps and stairs that that Emma talked about that of course you know that's not that's not being put in the classrooms yeah um that's I mean that's that's the biggest concerns we have with with that site when talking to parents is it fair to estimate that the
037additional construction on this site because of that lift station and all the excavation could easily be one to two million more than the other side just just in the original when we did the the plan in [Music] 2022 that bond that we ran the plan that they had had almost $4 million in earth work w wow so and and you got to recognize too me those are those are straight um what would be you know additions into the into the teaching area into the school itself on the other side because that's work that you're not having to do on other site you're not having to bring utilities to the site you're not having to bring thousands of yards of earth work and retaining walls on the side so it's it's it's a pure ad into
038the important areas of the school that the other side offers to and the the sewer lift station and what he's describing right there were not included in that formula it was just the moment excavation but the total excav I mean there would be of course there would still be some in teramore of course the standard but it could easily be to four million for this site of course that was a few years a few years ago um wow so that would be at least two or three million more than the other site you're you're talking thousands of yards to be brought into this site just to make great yeah and so we did just for fun um we we looked at designing the site with a two-story solution but creating trying to take advantage of
039of the the sloping site and creating an upper level portion and a lower level you know day basement sort of approach so you would have your gymnasium cafeteria series of classrooms which I would um probably recommend be your upper grades or all have access on a lower level a lower level um parking area and then an upper level main admin and in classroom space we create an amazing some some amazing architecture for you but again that would um Nathan is telling me that's probably your most expensive option I was jumping the G when I was looking at the plans and that was the one I was concerned about the bus on down kind of in a lower rut there that's going to be some interesting cut some switchbacks in or something yeah well the idea
040would be that we again we would grade that lower site that lower piece you know would be on its own level there would obviously be a series of retaining walls again but but still got to get down that's yep so even though that could produce um kind of a really interesting design for you that's probably the one that's going to cost you the most money you have to deal with parents that are just like let's just put up a square rectangle box you know no yeah but that's a we have we have obviously there's such serious Financial concerns right right so but we didn't want you know we didn't want to Discount that and and to show you know um the thought went into it and and could be Sav M the reality is is
041it's probably heading the other direction on that type of solution I think I think we need to be cognizant of of the the monies given to us so um I me I think it's while we can't really make any action on this I it seems that moving forward looking more strongly at the uh the terore site or yeah terore site makes sense over putting a lot more effort in into the Meadow Park site if it gets approved yeah yeah I mean that's the stipulation right yes um I think the other thing is is bringing up the when we get those that feedback from the neighbors there may be things that come up that are part of what we're looking at and impacts that we want to make sure that we're um if that's the direction
042the board is choosing to go that we're taking taking those into consideration and trying to find ways to mitigate through planning and and work together with star Canyon County whoever we need to itd whoever we need to work with to make those things do we have a district map that would that that you have you you and and everybody else here has looked at to see how we might carve out the we have not started toar we we have not started put that together but we could start putting start work on that be it would be good to see who how far out that that impacts right right but I think that's very important for the site consideration because most of the newer homes of course are coming in closer to boisey and we'd love
043to be able to move some of this traffic over to that side of the county so that's a huge consideration I think well we got to be ready to fight too on you know in the school's behalf with those other cities that are impacting that footprint and star basically well I think it'd be worth us creating a few of those diagrams if nothing else to help people understand where our boundaries of our district are in general because a lot don't understand how far east we actually go within our district especially with part of that being part of star so that might be uh that's something we'll start working on is putting those kind of of explanatory Maps together they'll be in the Star City Limits correct but their middle school district but we're still and
044we're Canyon in their Ada correct well but that's County Middleton School District is all in Canyon County correct but star extends into both counties right so they would be looking at that so it would be helpful for us to be able to explain that to folks every time I bring that up people are shocked oh my go because they think it's Middleton School District that's Middleton city limits no idea technically address you know clear up there to the yeah so much but just to address I know um it would be helpful to also address to the public I know the concern was raised earlier that perhaps we're not doing this as fast as we could or with all due and deliberate speed if you guys can address the timing I mean I think we're doing
045it as fast as we can and and as good as we can but maybe you guys could address that yeah I I think that's part and I appreciate this meeting being set up next week with with neers in advance of you know actually having applications that are going in for any sort of review our whole effort is that due diligence space and that we're really taking the time to analyze both these sites trying not to bring in any other you know outside influences to that and just which ones make the most sense and which kind of building footprint um but I you know back to your question about the timing I we're in good shape I I'm not concerned about that I think we need to keep moving this process forward just so everybody knows
046that you know we've been working all summer and and and advancing things um but I think it is critical and I think it's a good decision that you're making that you're waiting for the city of star to render a decision on this other other side so those questions can be answered but once once you guys make it a decision on the site you know we're off and running um we have been kind of parallel paths where we're working on the programming aspect of this with Mark and his administrative team to make sure that we are you know analyzing just what needs to go into this building how many classrooms square footage sizes and and and meeting with that that building team this summer so all of that is still occurring we're not you know we
047got parallel paths going on right now and it just didn't seem like there there was any way to put this on the November election and be realistic I mean that was just really pushing it for for the Public's concern well I think you you run the risk of of just asking for the money without having you know a plan in place and certainly there's districts that do that to varying levels of success but I I think you know given the history and what you know making sure that everyone's on the same p page and can can vote how they feel you know you're doing it right know I just want everybody to understand that the public to understand that we're just doing the best we can as fast as we can but we're really trying
048to be responsible about how we do it yeah and and unfortunately you know the planning process associated with school construction is just it's it's a lengthy process and you know you want to make sure that you're going through all the steps correctly and that everyone feels comfortable about it and you know so it's very difficult to speed it up and still make sure you're answering everybody's questions and concerns well and I think what I heard from Mike was basically the interim yeah what is our interim plan and I don't want to think negatively but we've got some years before and if the bond doesn't pass what are we going to do right so those are I think that's something that as you as the bo you as the board as you instruct me going forward
049that we start having those plans for the 2526 school year regardless because we won't have a school in 2526 even if the bond passes in May of 25 and so how are we going to address those areas that are overcrowded is it more Portables is it um a different schedule is it adjusting where people are at and using other facilities that we currently have all of those things we will'll have to start putting those options and I think it's important that we have those in place prior to the vote as well because people need to know what that means yes people will need to know that if this vote doesn't pass here's what here's what we're doing next year anyway but here's what the plan would be if we didn't have that so that they're
050making those choices um based on the all the information they can use because normally enrollment really isn't set until the end of September right after Labor yeah C certainly after Labor Day we I mean because of all the new people coming in I don't know do you have on this the actual new people that have registered at this point we don't have them separated out that way okay um but no what I mean is that included in those are included in those numbers so that's that's based as from our um student information system as of two hours before the meeting just so so that the folks in the audience and that are um watching can I borrow this um are aware I just placed in front of the board um capacities um for the schools
051based on the numbers of enrollments and these will continue to fluctuate because there's we have our first day of school tomorrow and we'll lose some students that just haven't told us they're not coming back and we haven't received requests from the other school yet um but right now we're sitting at 700 students at mil Creek 548 at Heights um those two are over capacity um mil Creek at 114% of capacity um Heights at 138% of capacity you have Purple Sage at 450 um 76% of capacity but you have at least two grade levels that are that are we would not be accepting out of District um enrollments for and we're not accepting out of District enrollments for mil Creek and Heights um Middleton Middle School 1,52 Middleton which is 88% of capacity Middleton High School
0521,500 at 97% of capacity U Middleton Academy at 122 that's 61% but the academy because they're an alternative school you see that number grow throughout the year so you anticip each year like clockwork by mid year you're up to 175 or so you get closer to 185 195 so we it's it's not intentional but it is a known pattern with our alternative schooling we we have you know the you talk about once we filter everything out and figure out who's actually showing up um but with purple sage with Middleton Middle School and with the high school we still have potential of more people coming in as well that we have some sort of dis disassociation with their you know I don't like it here I'd rather go somewhere else or which we legally cannot there's
053nothing we can do about that but as a district we're reaching 96% of capacity as a whole um so and that again that's today once you see what comes tomorrow and through the following weeks you'll see that shifting out a little bit it may go up a little may go down a little we just have to wait and see so our next meeting will be after we we'll have a better idea of exactly and we'll have I'll put that in the we'll put this on ass so that people can see what we've discussed here today but we'll also in September have a more official um number I'm but for the foreseeable future efforts putting forward um I mean I think and it's not emotion or anything but I I seems to me that logic dictates
054that ter more is where we focus our efforts I'd hate to see a bunch of hours and efforts put into you know septics and root strange whatever else is we need to pull into a site where it just even like we would have to find an alternative basically because it's just Cost proh and nothing against the developer but it kind of looks like that was an easy place to donate it probably was I was not here nor did I see any to say one way or another when it was donated to us well I when you said a lift station and stuff shouldn't that stuff be all it's only when they develop it that they have to put those in well it's my understanding on that side that originally when that piece of ground was
055developed there was enough um serviceability out of the sewer to the east oh and since that time fast forward now there isn't anymore so that's why we're having to actually connect to the West that's which requires us to come can we can we send but that's you know we have not had we have not had very detailed meetings with the city that's just what's being told to us through a few phone calls and some emails and all of that so don't don't get mad at the city can can we send something off to the city just as a as a request to to kind of to get that more official just just to get a placeholder for this land before they make decisions so that every time they consider development that they don't pull from
056the existing and ignore the potential of this site um know that makes sense because I mean if if they had something if at one point the it looked okay and now it doesn't because people just they just keep shoving stuff in that means they completely yeah they still have capacity should have been reserved for our site but you know Miss Miss Galloway did bring up a good point about there's so many younger people that don't vote and it's the older people that vote just to go back that contingency plan I hate to use the the word scare but the these parents and these younger voters have to realize there's some huge considerations to make of they don't show up to vote for the bond there's I mean um they need to be motivated they somehow
057some I mean it's a I think it was only what 30% of the parents last time less than 30% of the parents voted at the last Bond and that's just ridiculous I think so I mean I'd argue that quality of Education impacts everyone and and if we're having a hard time educating these kids because of these space constraints and it does impact everybody at every level it came from from places where they they're they're throw a lot of money at education they're not focused so much on the output and they're producing yeah a big pile of cataly converters at the recycler and that's about it um so that's you you've seen the extreme in western Washington where you Things Fall Apart Society falls apart yeah anything else that you feel should beare thank you yeah
058thank you apprciate and listening to all of our editorials all right let's move on to the facilities planning all right so me make sure we got the first off I just wanted to talk um when we talk this facilities planning we're talking specifically about planning for the uh making a 10e plan for how we're utilizing the funds that are coming from the state to both upgrade existing um um buildings and keep them up to date as well as any new construction and so one of the things as a board that will need to be determined um in our September meeting is how we would intend to utilize those funds and it doesn't have to get down into the really fine tune amounts but it needs to be the larger um picture for instance if we're
059going to take a certain percentage of our funds to um that come from the state to help um build an elementary school that needs to be determined early on so that we can recognize how many funds what funds we have available and for some of the other projects so the first thing um if you go to that first attachment Lisa I'll go go ahead and you're talking about that's this future promise of the 18 million that we got yes that's what we're talking about so one of the things that we'll we will have to do is submit a 10-year plan now the 10-year plan for this purpose of the state is going to look something like this and it's I'll I'll talk to you about how we create that plan but they want to know
060what we're doing in terms of electrical exterior fire and safety HVAC interior Plumbing Roofing site Specialties structural and technology and so the a new school might be on a site a new school might be under structural um but there would be funds that we might use for that but there's other things for instance at Purple Sage one of the things that we're doing right now is replacing a lot of the HVAC um components because we're getting to the end of their lifespan and we're needing to to upgrade essentially so what you would see you would have this chart Purple Sage where it says name of campus and then in fiscal year 2025 we're talking just about the HVAC you might see $150,000 towards HVAC in fiscal year 2025 and we might phase it out over
061three years depending on what the um situation is and so you might see and then a 50 thou let's say 75,000 26 50,000 27 and then you might not see any more about H cuz we've completed the project so what will and you we would we have to submit to the state this with those dollar amounts for each of our campuses um now when we start putting this together if you'll go to the next attachment Lisa real quick do we have do we have a schedule of of a life expectancy and or you know like when like like law of diminishing returns where we put X number of dollars into a system and it just makes sense to rip it out and replace it we don't but what we're we're going to be getting that
062based on what we do here so what we've been doing over the last month um I showed you last month the um the the what the plan that was made together with design West that shows you know over the next five years here are things that need to be addressed priority systems we had our maintenance Department go through that with the fine tooth comb as well as each of our building principles and their um administrative teams to look at what needs to be addressed in each of those buildings what we then do is we take so this would be Middle School main so that's the main building of the Middle School we're going to go through based on those um determinations and and and overviews and we're going to create whether that is is good
063fair I can't remember what they at the top there they good good Fair poor or whether we need to replace the state has given us specific criteria for how we label something as good as Fair as poor and whether we replace it now for the middle school campus we're going to do this chart on every single student occupied building so you're going to see anxa its own chart nxb its own chart any individual portable unit will have its own chart and so um that's what's actually taking the time right now because it just takes time to go through and make sure that we're getting and then the state has provided a program that we essentially enter all this information into and then they give back what you're talking about Jake of if it's if you've
064got HVAC that's at this um poor or repl here's your what we would recommend your plan being for the replacement of that system within that school um and what you're going to find is we're we're going to put all of this in and it's probably going to be a total of more than what we would have even with that 18 million but then as a school board where we then go through you go through and say we're going to put this is a priority this is a priority this is a priority and essentially from there we've created our 10year plan um and that will help us then then once we submit that to the state in September then we are eligible to receive the funds for the lump sum um so that's the system and
065the process we're working through to create create um the information so that we can use that as board and the the goal is to have that in your hands we were about a week off um for being able to able to have that for this meeting and you know part of that was obviously just school starting Bill had to uh attend to other projects making sure the schools were getting ready and to go so any questions on that part so it'll be eligible for the first year of the no the lump sum which would give it the the whole amount in our first year okay we just have to sort out how to allocate it yes and that there has to be a board action saying this is how we plan to do it and
066that doesn't mean if things change you can't go back to the state and say we're going to change our 10year plan um in fact it's going to have to be reviewed every year of the 10 years um but it's it's just something that they want to make sure that there's a a a structured plan in place and this is the way that every District in the state has to do this what I sorry one followup question on that what's the most like a percentage wise of that 18 million what do you foresee would be the most we could allocate towards the new Elementary well that is what we're going to talk about next and that's what Michael Keith is going to work with us on um it's a good segue a perfect segue before we
067do that any other questions on just this part this has never been done well we did that 5year plan it just had a different format when Design West came in with um for that plan that you saw last month that was the the process of making sure we had a goal and and prioritized planning in terms of what we were doing we just had less money to work with right to be able to do those projects okay thank you okay so we're going to go ahead and turn the floor over to Michael Keith Michael Keith is with zans bank um now typically we've been our financial planning we've been working with Hyper Jaffrey to um hyers Sandler hyers Sandler Sandler it used toyre um we we um typically work with Piper Sandler to have this
068kind of analysis done however they are um in charge of the full bonding for the state of Idaho in this process so they felt it wouldn't be appropriate to be recommending to us certain things to do when they're also recommending things to the state on their side uh Michael Keith we've worked with Michael um has worked in the I'll let him talk about how long he's worked within the financial industry education and bonds in Idaho um but I've worked with him before in other districts um I believe Alicia worked with him in other districts as well so he's Works throughout the state um and zans B does a lot of the bonding for different districts within the state of Idaho um Michael are you hearing us and able to let's see are you are you
069able to hear us Michael I am able to hear you can you guys hear me okay yes we can and let's go ahead and try and make sure that we can get your presentation up um so that if I need to change who can present we need two screens yeah SC it it says the host is disabled participant screen sharing okay I'm going to change a setting [Music] here okay I've changed one sharing setting can you share now can okay so we'll let we'll let you take it away Michael we can hear you and we're seeing your screen so okay perfect uh well I appreciate it and thank you very much to the Board of Trustees of Middleton School District and I did want to give a quick background uh if it's okay kind of
070my experience in IO Public Finance um superintend mgee mention Piper I actually used to work Piper I Works alongside Eric Haring year for almost 17 years uh before I came over to take over as the lead for uh sence Public Finance I'm very familiar with Middleton School Districts I actually was around uh when you guys did your 2008 bonds and worked on those uh and have had a long history working with the the district at my prior employer and and in terms of kind of expanding that now I have been in Idaho Public Finance for almost 20 years um I've been at Zion for about two and a half now um and you know one of the primary differences between Piper and and us is Piper tends to focus more on the undering side of
071things Z tends to focus more on the municipal advisory side of the business uh as a as a fiary so a little different little different approaches in terms of goals um but I'm happy to to be here speaking with you this evening uh and uh Mr M and I have kind of been working on some um analysis around some long range planning certainly a piece of that is what has already been mentioned which is you know house 521 which provides some some funds and so the question kind of becomes how do we navigate this you know going forward get some of these projects done as well as you know reserve some of those funds potentially um for other needs within the district and so I've got a short presentation here uh I wanted to kind
072of review a few things with the board one just a snapshot right of your existing debt um because it is a little unique uh in the sense of the type of debt most of the type of debt you have because of those 2008 authorization that you got I just kind of remind um the board about that and then talk some about kind of analysis a little bit about the markets um and and some of what we're seeing from an inflation standpoint so with that I'm going to go ahead and just Dive Right In if that's okay yes Michael can you make that larger I was just going to do that yep a little too big how's that think we can you all see that okay okay we're good we're good okay perfect so as I
073mentioned at the beginning of this I want to talk a little bit about the the district St and you'll see that 2009 2010 2011 have this this term called qcb following it uh and what those were were what we call qualified School construction bonds and there was a huge benefit to getting access to those after the 20 financial crisis happened federal government provided uh some incentives to try to invest for local governments and one of those being providing bonds that have these different subsidies the 2009 Bonds were kind of the first of its kind for the districts and was uh where were called tax credit bonds when they were first first came out not really that just means that investor who holds those um gets a tax credit so the the district sold what's called
074taxable bonds investors got tax credits that either be sold or utilized to just offset their tax liability and by doing that kind of gets them to an equivalent of what we would turn today a tax exib Bond um those weren't selling as well and they actually ended up changing the program so when the district came back with an additional authorization 2010 and 2011 those got changed to what we call direct pay subsidy bonds what that really means is that the interest cost that was being bed by the district was going to be mostly and at the time expected to be 100% covered um but through some sequestration that wasn't always at 100% but it's always stay in the '90s uh and so those cost those interest cost seeing for the 201 10 a of 47
075and 201 11 of 166 are being mostly offset by the federal government so that the benefit then the additional benefit was that because these were what's it called bullet matur so that 7 million comes to in 2029 the district was also able to set funds aside what we call a seeking fund and invest those funds right over time and and get interest ons off those so at the end of the day the district is actually not only getting its interest costs covered but some of that principal repayment is coming through investment earnings and so it was a really good deal uh it was a really good time for a lot of reasons for the district they issue those funds and in 2008 that benefited kind of sudden District up if you will um were it
076is today and then of course the other ones are in 2015s which are more traditional bonds uh that were issued and refinanced those were actually refunding bonds 2015 the mature in 2028 and the other thing I have down here just because sometimes I get the question anytime we're asking about Capital financing is what's our borrowing capacity and of course capacity is is different than what we think we can afford from a tax rate capacity um but from a Deb Capac from how the state calculates it which is 5% of your full market value that currently sits that of the the debt that we see up there 22.6 would be as of September 15th of this year uh the district would have over 200 million available in debt capacity on that any questions about the outstanding
077debt I know some board members are probably very familiar with it some maybe not as familiar but I just I wanted to make sure we reviewed that really quick looks like okay perfect so if we start thinking about well how do we we know that there expensive projects the that the district has been trying to accomplish in particular an elementary school uh that has been had a couple attempts with voters uh at passing uh and so with these funds you know the question kind of becomes well you know how do we leverage those and what's the best way to leverage uh the funds and just to kind of outline some assumptions at the top of this uh in terms of setting this up um currently as of September 20123 now you've probably re received some
078preliminary value market values uh to date from from Canyon County uh in terms of what your new market value would be the only thing we don't have uh is kind of utility valuations uh yet but uh taking kind of September 2023 valuations of about just under four billion cost estimated around 25 million uh and an expectation of hpit 521 modernization funds of 17 million um kind of sets up the analysis that you see below um and we kind of set the repayment term which has been um the repayment term the district is typically used for its bonds of 20 years uh and then interest rates um and this we didn't get a chance to upgrade um you know so you know the district had we assumed because weren't sure the amount was going to be
079a able A1 ispg rating but actually uh just a few days ago uh that school bond guarantee program get upgraded a notch to to AAA and so that would impact these interest r some lower them a little bit but for analysis purposes the Assumption was able1 we put that together um so if you kind of jump down below the red here you can see four different scenarios and I'll talk a little B about these and kind of dispel some of the numbers that are that are here um so at the time we ran this analysis was in late or sorry early July uh and at that time the snapshot for for these ratings A1 with A1 under was about a 3.86% borrowing rate for 20 years if the district bored all of the needs for
080the project uh or oh let me back up if if the district applied $17 million um of the [Music] funds to the project um then I'm kind of go from um from right to left on this um so $17 million of HP fund was applied and it was done through property tax relief we wouldn't have any funds to invest because you wouldn't get the 17 million up front we Bor $25 million at 3.86% uh with an interest cost of estimated around 11 million Michael go ahead so just to make sure that that's clear this the farthest right column is if we were to take the funds on an annual basis instead of the lum sum and that's how it would work out so we we would get it it would go immediately to paying off
081bonds and levies and um that would be how that that side is working this may this may come up in in this conversation but well first of all how much do we have left on the high school um that was the 22 million right left is that correct the 15 yeah I me you have 22 million left in debt the series 15 2015 which was a refinancing was uh some other debt the district had issued uh but yeah so about 22 million left um total outstanding debt and does it what what makes more sense to put money towards the building of a new school and and then roll the rest of that new school debt into what we've got or trying to pay off the high school debt and I think that's exactly what Michael's
082going to be addressing as he moves from one column to the next is that right Michael right yeah yeah we talked about this analysis and we can talk about those bonds and that's why I wanted to talk about your outstanding debt um because you have such unique debt in those qcvs and so we'll talk about you know some of the limitations on paying those off and some benefit you would lose by paying those off so I'll walk through these scenarios we'll talk about that and then I also have kind of the tax impact but I appreciate superintendent M kind of you know Ching in where was going with this kind hous 21 to correct if you if you don't take anything remember there's two options right there's the option to take everything up front and
083there's the option to take it over time 10 years but if you take it over time it flows through the house bill 292 water fall right and so you know those funds would first be applied to bonds and if you didn't have any bonds you still couldn't leverage that at some point in the future if you had had other levies for Capital financing so it would go from bonds to you know your supplemental um ly as an offset and it's only really after you have no levies if it flows through the house bu to waterful then you can then start to use that for for Capital financing So Def want to keep that in mind when we're talking about those two different options because they're they're very different um and I've got this this one
084on the far right will make more sense when we talk about the tax impact because that brings an additional 1.7 million annually right through that kind of house alterity to to offset your taxes on that so just if we Sorry real quick in L terms what you're saying is if we if we take the lumps on we have a little more control uh if we take the tenure then it it has a lot more strings attached absolutely I think that's that's a really good way to put it uh is that you you take on an annual basis you are definitely locking yourself into that waterfall and really it's just becoming additional property tax relief funds and not necessarily Capital funds for the district okay thank you yeah good question so we we move over and
085we say okay well what what happens if we apply maybe not all of it but let's you know what if we applied you know $10 million you know to the project uh and reserved 7 million for future projects that we wanted to do so you know we're borrowing $15 million from the market $10 million come from house bill you know 521 the other 7 million so you would be taking the full 17 million up front the every 77 million could be set aside right in an account to provide other maintenance projects within the district on that scenario right your Levy amount goes um it's not 1.8 million right it's it's 1,81 uh but you can see having that green by by holding on to that $7 million um and investing the funds at this the
086time was assuming a one-year TB rate was 5% uh so treasury bill uh you can earn $350,000 just by holding those funds for a year and yeah so that's $350,000 a year in potential interest earnings on the remaining funds thank you contct that with the the next one to the left which is if we only took $5.5 million of those funds we would buy down a project that would need to be borrowed to 19.5 million uh means your total Levy amount would be 1.4 um but you're retaining $1.5 million uh in an account right and the the thing I understand about these interest earnings is the principal proceeds that are that are being maintained are tied to specific projects so you have to use it for you know capital projects Steve is a capital project
087um so it's not just paints or anything like that it has to be invested in in a facility but the interest earnings that come from that are not restricted right so those interest earnings that you earn can be used to um or anything uh and so that's kind of the difference to think about when like how much of this do we want to retain and how much do we want to bring down you know the bond in terms of a you know total investment um on the flip side of this right is kind of The Other Extreme where we we take the 17 million all up front right and we don't apply any of it to the project uh and we maintain that in in a fund for future projects your interest earnings go up
088to $850,000 a year at that 5% um treasury rate but of course you're back to the same $1.8 million Levy amount but no tax you know relief right we're not taking that as tax relief we're holding on to those funds and we're going to utilize that 17 million for an entire any you know potentially different project or something else within the district and there is spending limits right not spending limits but there is a time frame so the the state has said even if you take the funds up front they do want this money spent within the next you know 10 years right and so at some point you do have to utilize These funds for a project within that window any questions on this before I kind of start moving into some of the
089how this kind of equates to tax impact in tax impact comparisons okay chime in if there are questions I just it's more of a comment than a question I think that our overall constraint is the urgency of getting a school for as cheap as we can and you know in other words we're trying to increase the palatability of a bond or increase the likelihood of a bond passing and I think that's overall I me at least what I'm thinking about how to how do we how do we increase the chances of a bond passing how do we make it as as attractive as possible and and how do we take all these numbers and make it so that you know the public can understand it just you know that I just thought to throw that
090out there yeah I think that's a good comment you know certainly you know part of this process um that we're trying to go through with the board is to start to kind of think about and navigate what that balance is right uh in terms of Bringing Down the cost of the project to your to your point so that it can be supported by you know the the patrons uh but also kind of maintaining potentially some of those funds for you know future things and future needs that the the district might need and so that's I think that's going to be kind of the conversation the board will want to terms of what that right balance is Michael if I could jump in there um please the one of the things for the board to consider
091as we're going through this is that the state is in order to help pay for this program and get that 17 million to US one of the things they removed was the what they call Lottery maintenance match and we've talked about this in previous board meetings but uh just a reminder that last year that property maintenance match amount we received was about $400,000 is that corre 8,000 $480,000 okay so um those that property maintenance I mean the lottery maintenance match money was utilized to do just our routine maintenance and upkeep of our buildings so as we're looking at the amount that is and I should back up a lot of that routine maintenance won't count as a capital project which means we couldn't use the whole that 17 million to do some of these projects
092because it's not a capital project um capital projects have certain criteria and limitations that um like if I'm so as an example um a student throws a rock hits a window and breaks that window we need to replace that window um that's routine maintenance uh Capital project is we're looking at all of the windows and upgrading all the windows and replacing all the windows and it I mean it doesn't have to necessarily be all but there's a kind of a limit there um and so one of the things we need to be thinking about as we're creating our plan is what's going to generate enough interest to cover those routine maintenance things throughout those 10 years because we're not receiving that from the state any longer right I remember when we first said oh it's
09318 million minus 4.8 million so it's really 13 million right so so am I understand though that with the lump suum it is investable in in some sort of treasury bond that that we would project Michael would you mind moving down moving back to that F that last slide where we talk so those numbers in the green like are those interest amounts that Michael was describing depending on which um how much you know obiously the more you are have in the more you can generate but on the flip side that's less that you can use towards that whatever project so that's where I think uh Michael's talking about is in finding that balance finding that spot where we're able to generate enough interest to cover the routine maintenance costs that we need to cover that
094I have a question do we use the full 480 whatever it was what I need to know thank you so any any clarification on that part before we let Michael continue okay thank you Michael I appreciate it yeah no problem so you know just quickly as we kind of move down and talk about you know what does this mean from a from a cost perspective you know to to patreons uh currently the district ear least last year levied um 5.5 million uh to for Bond and supplemental and I want to put those two together because house 292 as an offset didn't Pat both of those and so I think it's appropriate to kind of put those together so if we go this time I kind of go left to right on that if you look
095at the full $25 million project we're not buying anything down on the project we're not bringing in any property tax additional property tax relief for 521 You' have that estimated Bond Lev about 1.8 million I'm just bringing forward the 2.2 million that the district received last year as a 292 offset the expectation is that that's going to be higher uh this year for a variety of reasons 521 puts more money into 292 uh and so that should get a bigger offset but if we take the number that we knew from last year as an Offset you have about a 5.1 right uh you know in total total Levy amounts um versus last year on that and so your offset gets applied towards you know that that new Bond um if we if we kind of
096move to kind of a 1919 million you know 19.5 so now we're we're utilizing you know about 5 and a half million of that getting it below 20 million um just a quick clarification Michael so when we at 19.5 that doesn't mean the school would cost 19.5 that's what we would bond for yes and put the rest up to that 25 million again we're using just 25 million as the ex example that's where we would what we' be looking at there just want to make sure that that's clear thank you Mike yeah I appreciate the clarification on that um so you can see that you know the numbers you know obviously the more we utilize uh in terms of household 521 funds the more that goes down the one that's a little different here right
097is the one that's on the far right we talked about taking the funds you know on an annual basis right as opposed to taking everything up front so you have those funds over 10 years you get about $1.7 million a year so naturally that lowers that Levy but you give up something right you're giving up those potential interest earnings on the other side that could be used for potential other you know ongoing maintenance projects in the district so you know you can kind of see the contrast in in you know really when we start talking numbers it's it's about the the tax impact you know piece of this and so you're you're looking at a difference of you know about $10 right for about every five million five five a half million that we put
098into this um it buys down the tax rate on an annual basis per 100,000 of about um $10 um but for of course we put the take the tax relief uh being a significant reduction in the overall tax costs of this um so you know that's the thing to think about right is that I think you know there's there's the number at the top which matters right uh which is well we at one point said that we want get you know 28 million uh I think the district's been able to try to work through that and try to get that project total cost down to 25 million so now if we can you know bring in some funds to further offset that um and get that below you know say 20 million at least which
099is kind of where we targeted that 19.5 um you know that gets hopefully something that's closer that people are used to seeing in terms of you know cost for an elementary school even though the elementary school is still going to cost 2 million at least from a tax suppored perspective you know it's only 19 and a half or potentially 15 million um of course the tax part of this you know matters but it's going to be a tax impact either way uh and so I think from that perspective you know whether it's 130 or 120 um I'm not sure that's going to move the needle as much um as you know the large dollar amount I it is tax impact uh either way we go on this any questions I think we're good to move
100on so if we distill this down even more right and we say okay well you know average home cost uh according to Zillow which is usually pretty accurate about 490,000 uh what does all this mean in you know my my monthly cost um you know and so kind of the same scenarios right you know we're looking a range of 39 to $26 on a monthly basis uh and again when we start to look at those differences between you know keeping $17 million and just investing those versus you know going with 19 and a half or even 15 million you know we're talking you know anywhere from you know three to maybe $5 a month in difference and so and not to say that having some tax savings doesn't matter to to taxpayers I don't want
101toly don't want to say that but you know I think you know the difference may not move the needle as much on the tax back side as as much as it does on kind of the Top Line number that we're asking for questions on that hey we're good to move on okay so wrap this up a little bit um I just let's talk about the markets really quick Michael yeah just just one question or quick on now the the 490,000 is the average uh Zillow estimate of average value of house in Middleton but they uh in their District but the average assess value would be far less than that right well he's got the exemption on that correct yeah so you have that that home exemption you kind see that math there so good point
102you know is the the value of the home right 125,000 is going to come off the top of that 365 is the a TA and so that's what taxes all this tax impact is based off of that I think that the homeowners exemption though would be deducted from the assessed value so say a average $490,000 market value house the assessed values have been a there have been quite a bit less than in market value haven't they as far as what I've seen they have been um maybe just depends on where depends yeah I just I point out that there might it might actually be a fair amount less than that yeah yeah that's totally true right I mean we're talking when we look at this kind of home value index um right we're we're making
103certain assumptions to go in and kind of try to come up with a you know evaluation and I think you know what we're trying to demonstrate here is how does kind of that math work and what's that tax impact you know difference right of course the lower the home value goes down on this the less we see and and and tax impact right um so it's I think contrastly what we're trying to show here is like you know that if we if we go down by 5 million or 10 million um definitely tax savings um right but you know we're talking just a few bucks a month difference between those scenarios okay thank you yeah thank you yeah you so I'm shifting away from the analysis and talking a little bit about the the markets
104in general uh and kind of interest rate trends and I like this graph of above and I'll explain it um is it gives you a nice snapshot of over the last decade so since 2012 and those gray bars that's on this graphic at the top represents the range of interest rates over that decade meaning that for a one-year rate it's been as low as PR zero right and probably as high as around about 3.75% uh and as you shift through the curve right that range goes up some the red bars that go through that uh is the average interest rate along that period And so that decade long we kind of see more of a normalized curve right that you know typically around 1% average for a one year versus kind of around the average
105of 3% um on kind of a 30y year and maybe less than 3% on a 20-year Bond um the blue line is where we are today uh and I think the thing that's interesting about where we are today is you can see that that line rates are coming down you can kind of see that on the graph below um and it's mostly longer term rates currently that are that are coming down and so we are moving towards the average right we're definitely not as low as we were a couple of years ago which were alltime lows uh after co uh but those long-term rates are are moving down which is where most of the cost of your debt comes from right at those longer term rates on the flip side we have what's called an
106inverted yield curve right meaning that the short-term rates are actually somewhat higher than you can see kind of those mid-range interest rates when you compare that to like the 5 seven 10 and even 12 years uh on the bonds the benefit is kind of back to those interest earnings right because we have slightly we have elevated shortterm interest rates currently um there's more earning potential uh on not only municipal bonds that be issue but of course those funds uh that you've be holding now can change right you know you know rates can go down you can see the arch tring down um and so interest earnings would be tied to you know the markets but currently that opportunity exists right now where you know short-term rates are are elevated and we'll see how the trend
107goes there's there's plenty of interesting things happening this year obviously we have a you know kind of this historic election that's going on uh we have you know lots of tensions uh internationally in terms of potential war and other things that are happening um but the headlight thing that's been driving rates up the most has been inflation and that's the one thing that seems to be getting under control at least currently uh and kind of allowing the B to kind of relax its policy and even potentially lower rates in the short-term markets uh within the next you know 30 days or so and the expectation is that they may go down at least a quarter perc on their federal funds rate to as much as half a percent um so right now that trend is
108is lower but we'll see as we get closer to the election [Music] and the final thought that I wanted to leave the district with is the other side of cost right so we have the interest cost out of things um that is going under control the other part of this is the construction inflation uh and you know it's interesting like if you go back and Rewind The Clock uh to 2008 when we had the financial crisis uh and the district first passed it it's it's last Bond for the high school um you can see that there was some some Trend upward in inflation and affected fight but at the time that kind of construction really began on on on the project that started to come down and so that that was a provided some relief
109to construction cost at the time that the district did that U but you can see for the most part since then right the trend has been upward um for inflation in fact we're up about 88% since 2008 and total cost that's nationally right that's not specific necessarily to Ido but you know we we've certainly followed most of those Trends um since June 2021 construction costs are up about 27% um and most recently we've seen a little bit of decline right so as we see some of that inflation come out some of these other things that have caused that huge Spike and CA kind of move through um the economy we're seeing that kind of come back and flatten just a little bit um but we've seen that before right you know and so you know
110there's an expectation that that may be the way it is for uh another year year and a half kind of depending on what goes on with the economy but generally right you think about how the FED manages the US economy is they want inflation they want the least some level inflation so it's likely that that will you know eventually kind of turn back around then of course outside of construction right we have we still have a housing shortage uh and mortgage rates potentially coming down and the lower interest rate Market that may create more demand for you know buying houses uh which also me with some upper pressure on inflation so again just kind of a snapshot as we're kind of thinking about you know um how and when um we want to kind of
111move forward with a capital I think there kind of these two contrasting things in terms of um we've got you know kind of you know our cost of debt as well our concept of project and how that's going um so from that those are kind of my few slides that I wanted to share with the board and I am happy to um answer any more questions that the board might have questions any other questions thank you Mr ke yes thank you very much all right well thank you guys very much for the opportunity to present to you guys tonight um yeah please let me know what else we can do and and and help kind of guide the district as it thinks about his Capital plans okay thank you thank you Michael I appreciate it
112all right back you guys have a great evening you too thank you all right let's move on to the CTE building okay and this is just a quick update we did put the RFP out for the CTE building um we've received uh well I'll count them up as of today um get to my list here 1 2 3 four five 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 we've received 15 um inquiries and that doesn't necessarily translate into 15 proposals but um number of uh we've done a number of site visits with uh different some of these different groups um and we put out our addendum um on the 5th just so that it's clear we did give a deadline extension simply because there's a re there's an expectation and a requirement of
113when questions come in those questions have to be delivered out to all of the you know to publicly so we needed to add a second addendum so that will actually go out this Friday the deadline for those questions to come in is tomorrow we'll get that into the paper so it can be published on Friday and um we also added the geotechnical report uh if you'll scroll down there um so the geotechnical reports we did a soils test um just part of the requirements to have um done as we go and we'll the we have the deadline of the 22nd of this month so as of the 22nd we should know where we're at with that and we'll move on to the next phase of evaluating the proposals that do come in any questions on
114the CTE RFP sounds great does sound great thank you yeah okay thank you all right let's move on to discussion item e I'll just give that over to uh Mrs CR yep okay thank you um in front of you is uh list of the changes we need to make um in our school building checking accounts as far as the signers um this is also posted on assembly um we have four schools that had changes I won't read them to you but we do need to have a motion approved with minutes to send to the bank to make those changes and we're going to bring it up on the screen just so that it's clear when we make the motion do we need to be specific um I think it's just fine if you just say
115as recommended or presented because I'll I'll make certain to get this to the bank this is primarily to address changes in administrative staff and as an example as you look at the middle school y you know we have a new um principal but he was already Aigner so there doesn't need to be any change with him just changes to um who else would be signing or not perfect any questions thank you all right let's move on to discussion item F okay just wanted to give a quick review of the some of the things activities that we'll be looking at with our um bond election uh we had a a summary of this uh two months ago but wanted to just kind of give a more detailed look at what we're trying to what we'll be
116attempting to do as we go through um here in August and I'm just going to go through and hit some some key points a lot of them repeat from month to month so I won't go through that each month um but we're working to uh um Identify some Bond committee leads that would be willing to drive the community side of a of a bond we've reached out to a few people and they're just waiting they're weighing whether they could um commit to the time and everything right now they should be getting back to us soon um we will be gathering information about House Bill 292 because even what Michael presented is an estimate because it's all based on the market and the assess values and all of that so it's going to change every year
117so we want to make sure that everybody has accurate information on what the property tax relief is um we're working on social media and podcast um PL we're doing more planning right now for social media post and and podcast and we are actually producing those posts in relation to the bond um we do have our new um social media manager our public information officer Bobby Wilson we'll be taking over for Vicki um as a contracted um piece um and then we have site selection which is is something we discussed tonight we that discussion will be ongoing and then we're starting to design our public input survey and one of the things that we've received some uh recommendations and we'll work through on that survey is we'll put out the survey in an electronic form but
118we'll also have hard copies that are available here at the district office if someone uh because we'll put out in our newsletter that everybody gets how they can access the survey they can stop by the district office and pick up a hard copy if they're not comfortable doing the the online additionally we we'll go as far as if they want to give us a call and just say could you mail us one we'll mail because we don't we don't anticipate it will be a lot but we anticipate there will be some that would like to participate with that survey but aren't even coming to the district office might be difficult for them and so we'll try to give as many opportunities for the full public to respond um to that survey so we're working through
119both the design of the questions on those surveys right now as well as uh methods of delivery we'll be getting them out um and that will go through you'll see August September and even into October we'll be working through that process um as we roll into September some of the things that we will see that are in changing um we're going to start um pushing voter registration at all our schools with some some of our posts and things that we're um doing we'll also at least at one school event each month in initially and ramping up as we get closer to the bond um we'll be having an opportunity to pres present information about how we're developing the school how we're I how we're developing the design how we're working through Pro proc processes how
120people can get input into that um so we'll you know set up just a table booth that some of our school that um you see Middleton Market they their last one was this week so we won't be um doing that Middleton Market but also going to be meeting with the PTO um at each of our schools to get that going um no other new ones there October uh except website material release we um we'll in the month of September establish that Bond specific website we've got the the outline skeletal structure of that already set we just haven't made it public yet so then we'll start adding in information so that we can as we start talking to people we can be referring them to that website link uh as you move into October um the
121the you look at that emergency prep that's a a booth that we would be looking at the the Emer emergency preparation Fair um so that's we're not preparing for an emergency for the bond that's the fair that we're looking at um similar other other things we'll be doing but we'll start working ideally on schematic design and project budget work um together with ESI and lkv um at that point ideally we'll have an idea of which site is going to be able to be identified so that that schematic design and project budget work can start being HED in um in November where again a lot of those same things will explore the idea of exit polling um there's you know there kind of risk reward um thing that we want to be careful of on exit
122polling during that general election just because we don't want to feel like we're trying to um hamper their ability to vote um or trying to influence any kind of vote within so we we we don't want to have our goal our goal would be just to gather information from likely voters about how they would feel and things that we'd want to be taken into consideration but we don't want to have that backfire so we're talking to some groups that have done exit polling before just to get some ideas of how that works and whether it's worth that risk um we're looking at a a method of getting information to our seniors within our community we've already reached out to our music groups where to invite them in specifically um inviting some of our senior citizens
123to participate with our students in addition to that and that's that concert and activities we're looking at other ways that we can help our seniors um be involved in our schools either through volunteer work um or just being able to get you know activities that lend themselves to them seeing our schools and seeing what we do um the the goal is really just to outreach regardless um when the seniors come to a concert we're not going to be pushing you know the bond down their throats probably won't even mention it it's just so that they can see our schools and see what we're talking about um additionally as we move into December we'll be looking at site layout 3D rendering schematic and floor plans thank you Nathan um will'll be involved in the Christmas parade
124um the I don't think there's anything new there besides those and if we can keep going uh into January um we have another hard copy newsletter that we'll send out um and again those hard copy newsletters there will be things about the bond but it won't be just the bond there'll be other things that we would normally be sharing through those newsletters um ideally we'll have a projected cost and budget for the project at that point um because we need to be able to in March actually put the ballot language in and so having a budget in January where we can be if we're not happy with or comfortable with there gives us time to address um we will start Cottage meetings in February um and then again similar things going on March you got
125the County ballot language that's um required and then it's just going to be um from starting there in April just more of those Cottage meetings social media school events um and this is just what we would be doing as a school none of this is necessarily saying what the community um group would be doing because these are things that we can do they are going to be looking at things that are not allowed for a school district um to do that's being using public funds um the and then as you move into May um we'll work on um calling trees and continue to CL those Cottage meetings up to election day um as you look as you scroll down further um what you'll see is just different podcast topics we're looking at interviews with lkv
126and ESI that would help people be able to have a ready access to to some of those key details frequently asked questions that they get we talk interviews with students uh these are just some of the ideas we came up with the financial impact podcast where we pull a lot of that same information that Mr Keith just shared with us tonight um we can hold open houses and then there are other community uh organizations that we'll reach out to or that have already reached out to us as saying they'd like to help us in their process and so uh you can see though that um look there so any other thoughts or things that you'd like um us to be considering as we work towards this I I think if we're going to rule towards
127a financial impact podcast we should probably not do it in financial ease we should probably more basic so that I think it's important to have hard fast numbers I was just staring at my my fact assessment and and I last year 2023 1845 that's what we paid and 18% of that went to the school MH and almost the same amount not quite but close went to Parks ambulance and fire which all important um but I I just started looking and breaking those things out but those um I mean there's a lot of aspects that that we don't we don't necessarily use as a family um but I think I think everybody needs to see that kind of information I think it's really important because yeah I mean no tax would be great I mean that
128would make me like with within my realm of hobbies uh that money could could buy some cool things but um uh I mean I just think it's really important for everybody to see and and to look at our trends of where that's going and also understand that if we're going to stack another chunk of of money on that where does that take me does that level me out for a while and then keep going down or is that going to bump another hundred bucks because right you know to to to Mike's what she's speaking to I $10 when when we're presenting $10 is okay we can we can figure out $10 $50 $200 and that's that's a bigger pill to swallow yeah and so those are all things that when we make these decisions based
129on on the the new bill that's supposed to fund things how much we're going to put towards things um like we we really need to take some time to do the math to to at least help people understand that we we're we're trying our best with the money we're given from our taxpayers I'm a taxpayer I don't want my stuff blown either um but but they've got to understand in real world numbers really simply good luck with that yeah any other um thoughts or consider ation you want us to put in place as we're working towards this spot you brought up Bobby Wilson the new PR yeah so is she involved in any of this she she will be but okay anything that said website social media podcast she's going to be she's gonna be
130involved okay I wondered how yep okay sounds real good okay I don't have anything else on that top okay thank you let's move on to policy I'm going to turn it over to Lisa so let's start um we'll just go down the list in the order it is on the agenda that for you guys yep um so 9100 which was the use in the SP schol property not a whole lot of changed from our last meeting um and if you remember that one is more of an isba change and we were really specifically trying to look amounts and we wanted to make sure that um you guys have requested that anything under a certain amount that superintendent ke had the authority to look at that and so um this does fulfill that need that we
131saw as well the way it currently is revised so what would your recommendation be on that this one I I would say because we have such a large group I would continue to move them all forward to a third reading to be honest just because it gives all of our stakeholders time to review since we have such a large group of Poli um as we look to the next one 1500p which is the board meeting procedure that and 1500b really work um simultaneously together and so when we look at both of those some of the feedback we've received from the community some of your feedback one of the things we really want to make sure the wording in there included was that we would receive public comment not just on agenda items but on all
132items and so we went through and made sure we made the divisions to those to to with that request and then other than that there were the isba provisions that align with so and I think it would be um important to understand uh to state here as we talk about isba uh recommendations those are recommendations to you as a board um that is not a requirement that you as board have to follow it's they they've had attorneys V those and they've looked at from the eyes of a school of school board members across the state but it still is Middleton policy not isv policy and there just there's still um a piece in there and in our conversations um it may be recommendation for the board to remove it or we can keep it in
133there but you'll notice in the first paragraph um suggestions for inclusion we'll work on a day and bring that back to you in the third reading just so you know that piece is really we're still working through so ex number of days before the board meeting right how do you do that go hours could you do it to hours or you keep it to days well and most of the time the recommendation unless it's really of immediate importance we look to try to have that done in the amount of time that legally we have to post 48 hours so most likely the recommendation would come back is that two days sense get everybody opportunity to prepare oh yeah any other questions on those as we move into the next one so um to preface these
134next four just so you know we have had several meetings well we've had a meeting with um our principles a couple meetings with them we've had meetings with principles in our librarian staff to ensure that we've received input there as well um and so as we've garnered their input I'm just going to point out really what some of those come about since our first reading till now and if you have other questions please don't hesitate and this is on the 2500 yeah group yep but you're going to go through each one yes I am y 2500 there there weren't a lot of suggested changes to that specific policy and the reason for that is that's really the legal piece of it it's a summary um when we look though at 2500f that would be where
135I would call your attention to those changes one of the rec recommendations was to have the parent actually accompany a minor into the library with an ID to sign off on the permission slip and the Librarians really felt like that was a barrier in getting books to kids and some of those components so we did do our research that's not legally required and so the recommendation was still to get the permission slip have everybody sign off on it but not require the actual physical step of the ID um coming in with the and that wouldn't prohibit a parent from taking that step if a parent like needed to come in and have a conversation with the librarian they could still do that that just allows for that parent who wants to just call the librarian
136send an email to the librarian granting that permission still requires that be a call or an email I guess my question is if a kid brought an ass signed form could we send an email and just say hey they got this in like a follow up be smart I mean a kid could try to pull one over and Forge a note and so wouldn't be the first time ever no I think some of my children have done that to me so I'm just say having that second step and I think that would probably be important to include within the policy that a follow up follow yes communication with parents if they don't come in in person would be yes make sure we add that language in there as well to authenticate the permission in writing
137yeah it just it just ensures I think both both are everybody and what we'll do is if you look a little bit further down the signature page I think where it would make most sense to add it is it said for librarian use only and that was where the librarian signed off saying the parent physically presented it I think we have the librarian signed off there that they verified the permission s with parent so we can just change that portion of it so if if they receive something signed and and the kid checks out a book we're holding it until we get a parental confirmation that that was good or are we just informing the parent that we would not deliver the book okay until we had so we would need to receive this form
138we would need to confirm with the parent that they are approving this and then we could allow the checkup process after that and you could leave the confirmation open sotra lay but if we're reaching out then it limits the ability of the student to pull one over on it right absolutely for those sneaky and when we do reach out in those situations we only utilize the information in our system that the parent has registered the student with so we don't ask the student my phone number to call I mean we only utilize the information in our system to do that I don't get into Paris VI no okay so we can move on to um the next one and this is the more of the review process so when we have materials that come under
139review really what our process looks like for that one of the biggest recommendations is um the group felt like if we could change the word challenge to reconsideration that it just made more sense as a reconsideration of the book rather than a challenge of the book that may help our process there so that that you'll notice in there was a ing change so every time you saw challenge challenges challenged we really focused on that word reconsideration for the process which aligns with um the policy name which is where that came from since we were gonna since the policy is named reconsideration they felt like that would allow it to flow better and then this is the one that also requires that time frame so how often would we review a request of reconsideration the recommendation
140was three or four years we would like to stick with that three years in order to accept something in or really if let's say there's a there's something that it comes under reconsideration process then we would reconsider it we would come out with a ruling from the committee work through that process that ruling essentially would stand for three years before we would consider another reconsideration of it oh that we're not cycling every three months or that it gives it time because what you what you find sometimes and this hasn't been the case in Middleton as we don't have a lot of of issues with this in the first place but in other communities what you find is the reconsideration process goes forward and then whatever the decision is the other side whether it was to
141keep the book or to remove the book The Other Side is unhappy with that and so they file another um review and then it you find yourself just continually right it just continues going through and so the idea that there would be that that time frame before it could be considered again would be just just to to prevent those kind of things but um that that's the reason we have that is there a like a a report or an actual um I can't think of what I'm trying to say spre reviews so people can read oh a summary consideration why it was accepted or not that is available for people to read yeah as part of that process we can have that summary available for people okay and so what would if somebody came to
142if somebody came and said I'd like I have some concerns about this book and it's like year number one yeah and but you can say here's it was reconsidered last year here are the reasons they chose to keep it or here were the reasons they chose to remove it yeah I mean just being transparent enough I think that's important yeah okay well the way it reads currently just um to highlight that is the committee makes the recommendation it goes to the superintendent that is either accepted or more needs to be considered then um if the superintendent makes a decision it can then be appealed to the board process let's say the board then makes the final decision then we would communicate to the parties that this was the decision made on so no matter in
143that process we are communicating back to the parties involved what the decision is but we can also keep a list that has that on it so if obviously it's public record so people can request that that's so it is public record which part J the the review by superintendent and then the board yes so that's the only time it goes before the board is if it's appealed yes okay correct okay is that process spelled out as to yeah last two paragraphs of 2530 um you'll see that second class the decision could go can be appealed to the board and then that last paragraph highlights what that looks like if it's appeal to the board yeah I had got to this one is that something that would be considered an executive or would that be that'
144be open right there's nothing top secret about yeah no that would be an open open discussion so just okay unless there were some kind of legal aspect where a a group was threatening legal action as a result you still have the appeal in open but you could have this discussions of the possible legal impact okay are you guys comfortable moving forward y yes okay so then following that is 2530 F which is the form that would be filled out for the committee then to reconsider um a few highlights obviously some changes that have been made to this include the new law but then also it does include materials in classroom libraries so if there's something in classroom library that they would also like Rec considered this gives that option as well as the home teacher
145yeah on there yeah and really any classroom Library so it can be requested yeah and I think and this is I'm sorry this something that just came into my mind right now I think one thing we need to include in here is that and probably reach out to our attorney zone is if it's denied in one school or one library because there's multiple libraries within the district it's denied does that then carry forward to all and in my in my thought process it would but I think we need to make sure that that's clear if it was at an elementary would it be at all three right yeah because some of the books at the high school would not be at the element some of the books would never you'd never see them at the
146at the elementary but you might see Middle School and High School having a similar book um so all of those things we just probably need to I just thought about that just and I think it's important to mention you'll notice the list on here that it's not just books so it's ebook audio recording newspaper movie digital resource includes our all the curriculum that we adopt can be magazine game I mean so really it includes everything this is specific to things that we are funding we're holding or managing and then I think lastly it just um they do have to in this reconsideration form tell whether they believe it meets the definition of harmful to minors and so the definition is included on the permission form as well just have reference good thank you yeah questions
147there and I just want to reiterate Lisa said this already but we did we had this conversation with our all of our Librarians so they're aware of what the policies are that you as a board are considering a lot of what we've shared as in feedback from them we're going to be giving them the newly revised version as well to ask for feedback throughout the process as well as um looking talking with the mea since it does in Fall to all classroom libraries as well because a lot of teachers build their own librar correct along the line along the way it's just important anything in that classroom then becomes yes their gain for this process for this okay totally makes sense okay so these next two go hand inand um I think it's important to
148note on these we've also been working with our School nurses um to work through this process as well which is the notice of health services so if you remember that law changed as well to make sure parents are informed um if services are rendered so um you'll notice that in green it adds the new language from the law change in red It just strikes out that old language does it doesn't look like it specifically maybe I'm missing it pulls out and and talks about uh mental health is that included in here we should we get more details or is that covered somewhere else I it's not specifically pointed out here um it does talk about you'll notice if a member of The District staff becomes aware of a change in students mental emotional and physical
149health and that does push it back to policy 2425 which was a law change last year that we worked through that policy okay so it would then follow that process there do and that process does require there's components in that process that does require communication with parents okay because I I know that I mean we specifically built or grabbed this this service that that is working very well for us um because we're not equipped for that and we have the ability to refer people to that right okay and so we're continuing to get feedback from our nurses on this policy and so once again I would say going to the third reading is important so we can keep guarding that and then 3500 f is the form that would go to parents and so it
150just supports the policy we just communicated about as well any questions on that and it just expands on a previous form that was there to include the new information okay we're so um going back again to 4105 which is public participation in a board meeting and then 4105 f is the um form that goes along with that so this really does go hand in hand in um obviously 1500p 1500b talks about that change of where public input is given given which is um different than what it used to be and then now 4105 and 4105 F talk about how it can be given and so um once again we really focus in on making sure that we left that open that it's not just narrow to agenda items but allows public input that way that's
151important so those changes were made both in 4105 and then 4105 F and they pretty much mirror each other you'll notice the form is what we hand out at board meetings the policy is what is policy and so you'll notice the language pretty much Mires each other in those two documents and this is this is District like per District policy I mean like each district can have a different policy around this yep because I've seen some ones with different ones and I I'm glad that we've didn't got that open yeah to our patrons yep any questions all right thank you so and then so the recommendation I would say for all of them would be to move to that third reading next monthi to finalizing and moving do you want any details within those motions
152for say like the 2530 F where we were talking about uh or 2530 or 35 adding um the information about parent confirmation and things like that or is that just we can do that without adding that specific wording to the motion because it's going to the third reading and you'll have a chance to review and so I'll make sure I point out at the next meeting those pieces and then if there's any concern always continue perfect thank you Lisa all be bra as far as announce all of them talking I move the policy 00 do you need what it says just the numberers okay um policy 1500p 1500b 20 policy 2500f and 2530 along with policy 2530 F 3500 3500 F 4105 and policy 415f um I'll be moved to a third reading second thank
153you all those in favor I say I I I sorry j sorry all right thank you let's move on to action items I would entertain a motion to approve or deny the cross country trip I move that we approve the Middleton High School cross country team trip to Seaside Oregon second T's been waiting for this just all those in favor say i i i a little jealous I never got to go well they might need to Sher you could check oh I I need to can I say something sure sure they said there were 45 kids but I only counted 38 on the list I think they were just giving room in case other kids added in because cross country there's not a try out okay so additional additional students could come they take anybody
154with a heart and two legs anyone will to run the hot idah sun in August and focus on the heart I'm gonna say all right let's I would entertain a motion to approve or deny the volleyball trip I move that we approve the volleyball um trip second okay all those in favor say I hi hi hi all right I move Madam chair uh that we approve the trap shooting club at the uh Middleton High School um with a stipulation that that approval is is complete after um the uh the rules are established for any activities um having to do with the transportation participation in safety all thank you a second thank you all those in favor say I I I all right and I move that we approve the changes to signature cards as recommended
155by the August 12th letter that we were provided good all those in favor say I I I and we're adjourn thanks for coming you guys and sticking it out with marathoners thank you yeah