001Okay. I'd like to bring the meeting to order and ask that role be called. Here Paul here. Here sorry here. No worries. She'll get she'll be you'll be okay. I'd like to ask everyone to stand for the pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America to the republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Board will now move on to public participation portion of the meeting. Is there anyone who wishes to address the board? If so, please raise your hand. Okay, seeing none, this concludes the public participation portion of the meeting. The board will now move on to the action items. So, I guess I'll have a few comments here. I'll start and I'd like to hear from everyone on the matter. So,
002just for some some context and some background, um, shortly following, well, kind of leading up to the election, but certainly shortly following the election, um, I was contacted, reached out to by some the public, but some of the new members asking about the the training center and the fact that obviously the board did a lot of had a lot of discussion and conversation about it uh over a year ago in terms of how it got to be the size that it is and the amount of money we were going to spend etc. And there was some interest in is there an opportunity to to do it to a point where it was a little bigger and we could host meets, have a little revenue flow through it. Um that along those lines. And so I
003did inquire about having this uh come to the meeting or talk about it a little bit in April, but at the time the the board its makeup the compliment uh there wasn't an interest um wasn't enough and the board hadn't changed out and so um there wasn't a good enough idea So, um I've been spending um a lot of time over the last several weeks trying to get smarter about is this even a possibility for consideration. So, we've looked at a lot of different options. Um because and again in April work started happening at the site. the thing was going to eventually have a shelf life point of no return if you will. So, um, this morning, um, as a matter of fact, I, um, I finally got a number that, um, that everyone, uh,
004when I say everyone, so I'm talking about civil engineer, talking about the construction company, um, some administration maybe, um, but a number that I could, uh, be able to talk about or present and someone say that they could actually do it. So in order to uh make the building bigger so that it would have a 200 meter track which would get um an additional basketball court but it would be open for meets and host tournaments. What we would have to do is uh shift the orientation of the property. So the facility right now it's planned to border up against Cedar Hills. So in order to but the driveway is in the way. So in order to make the building fit but be longer, it would have to be on the other side. So, right now
005the building is set to be against Cedar Hills and the parking lot is set to be against the drive that comes off of Legion Hall. The the the option would be to flip it, so to speak, um, and have the parking lot border Cedar Hills and the building border the drive. Now, that's less advantageous because there's a big dip there. So, there's some dollars involved in that. Um, but we do have that that length, if you will, that north to south. So, if that were to um come to fruition, have support, uh that would be just shy of $4 million to do that. The other possibility, um, but one that is still kind of getting fared out a little bit, is that the building could stay where it was originally planned to go and that
006the school district would be able to acquire some property south of Current Drive off of Cedar Hills. talked a little bit with the property owner. Um, and if that were the case, then um, it also would be an opportunity to perhaps someday put an extra drive off of Cedar Hills directly into the high school parking lot, but the and that would be about a half million dollars less. So, I'm obviously happy to talk about it, take questions. Again, I'd like to hear from everyone, but the idea is to propose to um maybe I'll do it that way. Maybe I'll make maybe I'll make a motion. See if it gets seconded and then we have discussion on that's the way it works anyway. So, I would like to make a motion to approve the option for
007the Dunlap Training Center that allows the board to spend up to an additional $4 million to expand and possibly move the the training Second and I need a second on that. I'll second that. Okay. Now I'll open it up for discussion. I'll go first if that's okay. Yeah, please. Dr. Dr. Dman, what's the administration's recommendation? Uh myself, Dr. Adrian, uh and Mr. McKenzie have spoken about this. Um we do not recommend the flip. It's it was referred to um changing the location of the building down towards closer to the ravine. Um you're going to have a 17 foot high retaining wall is what I've heard. Uh a 28 foot building on top of that. So the bottom of the building would be about halfway up the tree line. It's going to be unsightly. That's really
008the least of the concerns. The larger concern is, you know, we're looking at $193 a square foot under current construction. We're going to $493 a square foot. Um Steve Kerr with Warren Kerr said he had no private client that would ever do that because it's just cost prohibitive. Um I I I don't see it we don't see it as a good use of taxpayer dollars to do the flip. Um I am intrigued as Dr. where Adrian and I have been talking today. He's been literally today in conversation with that land owner. Um if we could get that 10 acres, I think that would be a win for the district. Anytime you can acquire adjacent property, I think that's a good thing. Um we could then put that entrance that would go straight into the high
009school parking lot, which I think would be beneficial. I think in the interim, this building was always designed that it could be added on to. I know there's a cost associated with that. Um if that I my suggestion or the recommendation from the admin team is continue on the current course, build the building as it is. Even if the landowner came tomorrow and said, you know, let's do this. Things move so slow with schools. It's going to take 6 months or more to finalize this deal. Um and we've got the construction company sitting there idly. Uh if it can even get done. But I would, our recommendation is to continue the building as is um or start the building back up as is. Allow Dr. Adrian, myself, Mr. McKenzie to pursue this purchase of property.
010See where that goes. Um and then also if we do get the property and there is a discussion of building the new road and possibly adding on to the um training center, look at alternative methods to fund it other than taking that money out of reserves. for example, the county school facility sales tax. We could use that. It's capital to help fund this and not take the money out of reserves, but it would take some time to get that done. You don't just do that overnight. So, that's the administrative recommendation. So, I I have another question, Tom. Um, you indicated that you reached you were reached out by the new board members after the election and you've been looking at this for five weeks. Can you tell me if there's been meetings with the administration,
011if there's been meetings with the construction company? uh tell me what has happened during that time because I got an email on May 9th. First time I've heard about it, right? Yeah. Um and just need to understand that and also I think I got a call from you today. It might have been at 3:30. Um I'm in meetings all day so I wasn't able to take that call. So let me know what's what's happened because when we had this board meeting and we approved this, we knew at the time we had financial obl we did it because based on financial obligations. I have a chart here that shows exactly where we're going to be and this Mr. McKenzie, we're going to be in a deficit this year again. Is that correct? And have been for
012the past how many years? Two or three, I don't remember. And the education fund all correct. Correct. So, we're looking at and I had Mr. McKenzie run numbers for me today. Total operating funds, and I'm just going to go every fund here, the four operating funds, 47.5 million in reserves in 2021, 2022. uh what's projected out and I know five-year projections they're you're projecting right 202425 we're at 387 bas and this is based on current projections right what we see today moving forward we're not increasing things right looking forward we'll be at 30 million at the end of 2030 we need to keep six million in reserves we've got headwinds ahead so I I guess I'm just ex extremely disappointed that this happened we've had this done and Just Mr. Fman, how many meetings and
013conversations have happened in the past five weeks? Yeah. So, um let me and with who? Yeah. So, um let me make a couple comments. Um and then I'll get to some detail on that. Also, Teresa, you know, the I just want to play off a couple of the comments that uh Dr. Dearman made. Um we because you mentioned the taxpayer dollars. I want to mention that um feel obligated to mention it. I felt uh good about the decision for the 8 and a half um million, you know, when we were talking about it almost being 10 one point. I was good with any of that. Um I feel better even about more like 12 and with the extra four just because there's an opportunity to to actually over time see some revenue from it. So,
014if you know one over the other, um, I'm I'm more I I I guess I like the the bigger number from that regard more than I do the lesser number. And then the other is, and I did list it as a as a possibility, and that's why I worded my motion as a possible because I know Dr. Dear um mentioned, I mentioned it and he added on to it about the land thing. You know, the only thing I'll say about the land is we've been talking about land acquisition and land around here for certainly the five years I've been on the board and there's never been anything ever about it. No movement ever. So, I'm booed by the fact that someone wants to talk to us about it. But, I mean, the timing is a
015little interesting that um and I mean there's nothing like a you know, a fire to realize that you need water. You know, about the reserves, the one thing I'll say about reserves is you know, I think reserves are good to have. I think I think we're we should be thankful that we have reserves but reserves uh should not be uh I don't think uh seen or thought about as a uh as a regular um as as a regular vehicle to fund operating expenses. Um, and so admittedly, although these are different buckets, we're talking about capital and we're talking about, and I just mentioned operating expenses, but we're talking about reserves. Money is money. Dollars are dollars. So, when you spend money, you take away from one pot to the other. So, it may in fact
016be that what you're doing is perhaps shortening some amount of length of time that you're able to pull from reserves. But I mean there's no one that could suggest to me that uh a good practice or good policy is to just be taking away from reserves with any sort of uh frequency or uh planned thought out into the five or 10 year period. I mean that's just not that's just not good policy. Um, in terms of who I've talked to or when I've talked to them, I mean, I've made uh a lot of I I haven't had I've been in I've been on one teleconference meeting um uh maybe on the I have to look at my calendar. Just in the last weekish one I've been on I've been on a call. while I was
017alone. But there was um Dr. Dearman was on that call. Um settle engineer Steve Kerr was on that call. Someone from Estus was on that call. So there were at least um four or five people on that call. And then uh otherwise it's been um a lot of individual conversations to try and get smart about what the number could be or how it could look. So you were having these convers Okay. I I I I'm just totally confused by this Tom because I had no knowledge that you were going out and something that I mean to me and and maybe Dr. Darren, it sounds like you were included in that meeting. We should have known. I'm listening. I'm just looking at the day. I I didn't I didn't indicate you weren't listening. Um but Dr.
018Dearman um was in it as well. I I would have it's just my um I would have hoped the whole board would have known about this. This is a surprise to us or at least to me. Um, and um, I can understand what you're saying about reserves, Tom, but we've been using reserves for the past four to five years, and we're going to continue to do so because our expenditures are more than our reserves or more than our revenue. Anytime you have a expenditures greater than revenue, you've got a problem, whether it's in your personal life, corporate life, or in the school district. So, I'll let somebody else speak now. Well, and I don't think well, a couple things. one. Um I think uh I'd have to look up the date, Tim, but I mean
019it was a week ago or something. I I touch base with Tim briefly on it. Um and um you know, this was the soonest that I could get, you know, prior to last Wednesday, none of half the board wasn't even in standing with the board. So, I'm not sure. Um, I mean, I worked on this as fast as possible. I'm only bringing this tonight and I scheduled this special meeting tonight ahead of next week because um, again, there wasn't anything anything appreciable done with the current location and the current plan for the last 11 months. But then uh April came and suddenly there was a lot of activity up at the spot. And so for me, I didn't want to have good money go after bad and I didn't want something to be done that
020wasn't going to be in keeping with, you know, what the board wanted to do long term. So I needed to act. I think I acted as as fast as I could and got this meeting on as fast as I could. So I have to wait the extra week next week. So I moved I got to tell you I've been working, you know, very hard to even get a real number this morning. So it's pretty much done in the dark, right? I mean, you've been just you have been working on this. I've talked to him about it a little bit. It's a potential open meetings act violation, but Well, not just if you have two people. I mean we this is these are major funds that we're going to they are and we can rewind a
021year and a half and two years and how it was done initially was I wasn't part of that I nobody was I I I knew as much information as you exactly but you know when we're in and No, I agree. I've seen the numbers as well. Mike, can I ask you a question? So if this you know this is we're talking this is obviously a big dollar amount here million we'd like to have in our reserves. We always hear the number 180 days cash on hand. Right. Correct. We still have that. Right. Yes. If if this $4 million is approved and budgeted for we still have beyond that 180 days. And right now if you look at our operating 180 days, it's usually about operating fun. And I know this only because I was looking
022at it this afternoon. normally. Okay, I know this this detail off the top of my head, but we have about $52 million in annual expenses in the education operations and maintenance, which is our buildings and transportation, buses, and so 52 million. So, we need about 26 million and you measure that on June 30 because we cash basis. Most our cash comes from property taxes. So there's time for way more money than that. We're talking about on June 30th. That's when you need to have 180 days. You just got money from the state for your new tax receipts. Anyway, so $52 million. So we would need to have 26 million or so in fund balances at the at that point. We're we're scheduled to have I think like 38 39 at the end end of this
023year. So we have about 12 million that I would consider our true reserves at this point in addition to that 180 days. Yes. So so just however you want to look at it 12 million cushion for the 180 days. You need 180 days to get the best rating from the state which helps your bond rating. Right. Okay. So this 4 million again it wouldn't put that in jeopardy per se. I mean obviously no I I mean I personally you know I'm I'm I like the word money. Yeah. Correct. So uh anytime you start spending that down for sure and I appreciate that. you do a great job on behalf of our taxpayers and that is, you know, one of our main job you could spend looking at how it's currently set up and again we
024didn't have a whole lot of say in how this whole initial thing was designed and planned with initially. So, a lot of really all the feedback I've received from the public when we did that was that's great, but why don't we do it this way? Why don't we do it a little bit bigger where we can have a 200 meter track where we can host events? And I I've just on my own, not in the dark, but just people I know. I've reached out to I know admin at Gailsburg. I know folks at Mount S. I've talked to people at Muhammad to a person every single person I talk to they say do it right do the 200 if you have the funds they don't know our financial you know uh situation but the ones
025that didn't do it that was their only regret so I just as a board member I want to do what's best for the district the community and our kids and I don't want to look back 5 10 20 years from now and wonder why didn't why we shortcut it when if we if we have an opportunity we have the funds without going below that threshold I'm open to discussing the the opportunity to do it better and bigger because I think talking to again talking to other people that have been down this road before us it completely like in their words it changed everything right their their kid. We know we're short on space as it is. So, this is going to relieve a lot of that tension with other facilities um and really help our
026kids. It's going to it's going to benefit thousands of kids in the district and even our community um down the road. And I think if we shortcut it, we're just doing ourselves and them a disservice. Um, so I really think it's worth looking into and and considering. I want to make sure that we hear from everyone. So Nick, I'm gonna start calling on people. If people don't raise their hands, just go around the table, just cover this half of the table. People can jump back in, but I want to hear from everyone. So go ahead, Nick. Yeah. So I think a couple of things I would start with is obviously as a new board member, you know, I wasn't involved in any decision making or discussion regarding the present design or current facility that was
027voted on by the previous board. Um, you know, I think coming into this, obviously this is a a big agenda item right out of the gate for this new board. Um I do think you know looking at the the building itself it's one of those situations where I agree with what Mr. Tyra is saying in terms of uh have we looked at this carefully in terms of uh you know these buildings are 30 40year buildings you know is or have we uh in the previous board did we really look at these uh options and kind of you know decide what what was best or was it kind of just done more rapidly I don't know wasn't privy to that um I think the decision tonight focuses more on, you know, basically whether the current design
028optimally serves the students and the parents and other stakeholders involved with the building. Uh rather than whether the athletic center is needed at all um that's already been decided. Um so I think it's worth exploring. Um certainly I think um you know the idea of of bringing events here and uh perhaps driving local commerce if there's any opportunity for revenue for a bigger building to offset some expense of this building be it maintenance or even paying for some percentage of the building over its 30-year lifespan I think is probably worth exploring. Um yeah, thanks Nick Yousef. Yes. So my understanding I mean in the past um especially when they were building the schools for example they always kind of looked on the smaller side of things. Many times when a newer school is built a
029few years late a few years later the schools already at full capacity. So instead of really planning ahead 10 years down the line it seems like previous boards and forces just looked just in that short period of time. And I think, you know, just like other board members mentioned, having a facility that's going to be lasting decades, you know, from now, we might we want to make sure that's large enough for all the students, you know, and all the sports that we can accommodate. Um, and then why not have something that's going to bring more revenue as well? If it is, I mean, I don't know if we have a number of how much revenue it'll bring per year. um that would be, you know, good to know down the line. But anything that you
030you can always have revenue, why not? From my understanding, the way it's built right now, there's not going to be any revenue coming in. And um when I was campaigning for a while, what I could say is there was either two things people were saying. They disagreed with having a sports complex at all, or if we have to have it, build it big enough. because they weren't really I mean I understand we're saying you know four million sounds like a lot but when you're already spending eight and a half million you might as well put a little bit more and make it the right way than just having it too small where it's not really going to have that much benefit to it. So that's really what you know and I appreciate what you're saying
031about like we like to hoard the money make sure that you know but also for the public it doesn't look good we're always it's not a good word I said that yeah was not well to be clear he said that he liked to hoard money he wasn't it wasn't speaking was not a good word I guess the public they kind of see it as hoarding money sometimes and so not you know um the when we had so much and reserves and we're not really, you know, when we're asking just for a little bit more to make it the right way. I think that we should go with it and then also why build small and keep adding on to it when we can just do it the right way up front and then we're done
032with the project instead of a couple years down the line. Okay, maybe we can add a little bit more, add a little we want to get the project done and focus on newer projects in the future, whether it's more schools or whatever we have to do. So that's just my opinion on it. Tim, I don't know how you started it, but you acted like this board discussed this how we should build this thing and you know that was not on this table at all. The size and the size of when this thing was designed that all came up under the table and then we came up for a vote, right? Well, we Oh, you're talking. No, I'm talking either way. You're trying to answer that. Oh, I mean we I mean we um I mean
033I the only thing I'll say is I I know at this table we I know what we agreed to and I were both here and we both voted in favor that was after it was planned, right? But at in the open uh discussion though we did talk about with the Estus guys and everyone having uh the bigger track and all that stuff with the ES guys. There was very little discussion on the board about how this building was designed. Yes. And then and then it just came up for here we go. So who's paying the additional design fees? Are they charging us for this? That's all in the number. What you're talking to them now for that this is in the in the are they charging us more for what you're doing? Well, there there's
034going to be some redesign. They're going to have to redesign some of what you've done so far the last five weeks. Have they charged us? No. Okay. um because they well they were doing it thinking that there might be more business to be had. So there's no billable hours in the time that I've talked to any of these people. Okay. And and you two both voted for it. Why didn't you say something at the time rather than voting for it? Why didn't you say we shouldn't vote for this? Let's hold off and check this out a little more. Actually, all three of us, I think, voted for it. Yeah. Okay. All three of you at the time. Well, so I'll for me uh I will say that um at the time a lot of conversation
035really with just one board member and um that board member did not feel that he could get uh enough support if it was anything over $10 million. And so I I actually uh thought that something was better than nothing at the time. And I I still I said it earlier that I felt good and I still fel good about my vote. Um I just feel better about our ability to maybe do something more today. And that's me. So I'll answer for me. But I can't remember exactly what was said at the board meeting, but I do remember some folks being up there talking and some back and forth with some of our board members. And I did interject and I did I believe I made a point that I would support doing something bigger, including
036the 200 meter track. I know I made that clear to the board member that was kind of running that project. Um it was clear we did not have the votes at the time to to go that route. I remember a $12 million number being talked about. Um, but that's got scaled back to 10 and then eight and a half. Um, so I did those my opinion. I think I did publicly and I know I did, you know, on one-on-one conversations, but at the time it was like, well, we'll take what we can get, if you will. But I didn't all my feedback from the community has been overwhelmingly in support of something larger where we can host events where our families don't always have to travel to go to such events and then it also
037frees up other facilities for our kids to train and we don't have to keep them till 9 10:00 at night for practice when they're at school the next day. Right. I don't think we we need to see some revenue examples of what you're talking about because it's not big enough to have a host of audiences in there. Right. So, how you going to make revenue if there is an audiences there? So, well, you get I mean, there's a couple different ways to get revenue. I don't want to talk about it now. I just want to see it on paper. Let's we need the the the notes the proof of it, don't we? Yeah. But I'm not I'm not telling anyone that they should vote on this based on uh based on some amount of revenue.
038I specifically don't want to go down that that rabbit hole because you're not going to find a check for $4 million at the bottom of it. So, there could be a lot of lot of conversations about that and I don't know what would make people comfortable, but in talking to some of these other facilities, it's a wide range. I mean, I'm hearing a lot of, you know, over a hundred grand numbers, but I'm hearing a lot of, you know, 50 grand numbers and a lot in between. We just like to see something. Well, yeah, sure. I could share that information with you, but that is not I don't want anyone to I mean I am certain that this that you will get revenue from this from based on tournament fees and just things not even
039spectators just from other schools that will or or uh or you know basketball you know youth leagues. I mean, we will get revenue in that way, but I don't want anyone up here making the determination because I've said this thing is going to get this kind of money. I I don't want to I'm sure you're not going to pay for it or even close, but were you saying some present? There's going to be expenses associated with this, too. So, we need to see the P&L statement based on what the revenues would be versus what our expenses are. If we host events, we're going to have to have janitorial. We're going to have to have security. So, there's a lot of expenses plus the utilities that go along with this and the maintenance that go along
040with the building. So, we need to take a look at that. Well, we wouldn't do any we wouldn't be hosting anything that isn't profitable. So, we wouldn't be Well, we need to see the numbers. Well, I mean, I'm just telling you that I'm just going to Will it be profitable? That's what we need to understand. Well, what I'm telling you is that if if there was a proposed event and they weren't and the event wasn't going to cover its cost, it wouldn't go on the schedule. Right now, it's just more space. So if you take the total operating costs for the do we have this Dr. Darman, Mr. McKenzie, do we know what the operating expenses are going to be for this new facility on an annual basis? Not on the new. We have projections
041on the old. So you could extrapolate. That's a piece of it too right there. Operating $25,000 a year worth of gas on the utilities. How much? 25,000. 25 a year on the original structure 7,000. Put it to I wouldn't think it would go up a whole lot. Maybe to 30. My recommendation would be put the numbers together so we can take a look at it and understand whether or not it would be. I mean, with those those kind of numbers, you're talking about just I mean, Hback numbers from square footage. I'm talking about operating home operating expenses. I believe it was said by Dr. Dham that I had to get to that are uh just the naming rights with Fortress Bank was going to cover the utilities annually. Right. That is correct. Um And I
042will say talking to other uh communities that that host events and have facilities like this and the ones that went small have sense some of them have upgraded so they could enjoy that revenue aspect of it and just other things that come along with the bigger sizes. In terms of where that money comes from, it's not really from the gate. I go to some of these with over the years with my kids and other places that have facilities like these. It's the teams pay entry fees. There's not a lot of seating. you're almost standing up against the wall and watching these things. Um, that's really how those those work. It's not like a an auditorium or even bleachers typically for for uh training centers like this. So, it's mostly teams will pay an entry fee
043to come in. But anyways, that's just a couple more things here. So, I did talk to the neighboring property owners man farm manager and they acted like they had no interest in doing any more favors to the school district. I don't know if they're leading you on or if they really did get I actually spoke to land. They and they were had already been offered 50 grand an acre I think and they're turned that down. I think they've been offered 50 man off that land. We made one 10 or 12 years ago from transportation hub I guess and the village based on one tower. Are you talking about across the street? I'm talking about the lockers trust which it does include that triangle trust which we're talking the lockers going south toward the cows towards
044that's not what I got from him but anyway that's a pie in the sky thinking this just it seems like it's a reckless action to do something tonight because the administration doesn't support it and it's not proven yet so I think you're in the wrong but you'll pay for that with the taxpayer they'll they'll answer to you I'll say about records act I think since the new board is the ones dealing with this issue. It was a reckless sack for the old board to have voted on it instead of waiting until we got sworn in to vote on it. The reason I didn't vote for it cuz I didn't think that little area was big enough. That's one of the reasons I didn't vote for it. Yeah. But I was saying the board as a
045whole that should have been something that brought up with new instead of Joe right before elections. Well, it was a year ago. I mean that we voted on it. So it's not that I mean this board didn't or the old board didn't vote. Me and Teresa and Andrew did cast our ballots last month for this. I mean, this was I mean, just put it in context. That was like 10 That was 11 months ago when we did that. So, I do think we could have had some more conversation. I'll say one thing about that too, uh, Tim, that you know, there will be I mean, I'm not pulling back my motion, and I I do know that, uh, Mick wants to say something, uh, but, uh, I'm not, uh, at this point willing to pull
046back my motion, but, there is a fair amount of, um, work that has to be done just in some of the the drawings and the redrawings. And so it's not like they're going to be um not like I've been operating in the the last month which is you know some sort of super time sensitive. This is still it'll be time sensitive but I mean if if something you know you called it pie in the sky but if something happens with the land or there's some opportunity to do something a little less reckless um I think we'll have a little bit of breathing room for that uh as well to consider. But that's going to be up to if Dr. Adrian can do anything or not. So that's all I have. But I think you should
047consider delaying this. It's just not appropriate tonight for the first meeting of this new board to make this action. Thank you. But it's up to Tom, I guess, isn't it? Okay, Nick. Um, I come at this from a couple different angles. one I have to share um I have had lots of conversations with folks over the years um about the previous board before that board before that um and one of those things that is offset is why didn't they for example why didn't they build the administration building bigger so that all of the admin people could be in one building um why didn't they right I think this is an opportunity that that uh still exists right now where we can have a facility and we all know because it's the first one in the
048area like this, right, for a high school in in our area to be a signature facility that's done right. not done expeditiously, not done to try to spend only a certain amount of money because that was the amount of money somebody felt like ought to be the limit on it as opposed to the board looking at what the facility would offer for not only the students but also in a in a in a manner that does generate revenue. The one thing I think we can all agree on is the current design doesn't offer an opportunity to generate revenue. this other design would. Uh, and I I know I just talked to a to a um athletic director in a neighboring community here who talked about what it's like to go to these uh uh track
049meets at a 200 meter indoor facility. They were charged $300 for their girls team in the morning and 300 for the boys in the afternoon. There were 30 teams each and so that facility made 18 grand in a day. Now, I'm not saying that's a standard. I'm not saying that you do that every weekend, but at least you have the opportunity for that. Talked to another one who mentioned the AAU tournaments uh for basketball in the summer. Again, an opportunity. It isn't every day, but it's more revenue than we're going to make otherwise, right? And so I I think that because there's an opportunity to generate revenue, because it is a signature building that we could do the right way and because I think in in what the constituents have said to me, which is
050they're fully supportive of this building if they just do it the right way. And those are the words that have been shared with me time and time again both before the election and other and afterwards. Can you guys do anything? Is it too late? those words were shared with me. Is it too late? And it seems to me that this is an opportunity now to step back and and say, you know what, we do have the money in the bank and maybe this time we just do it right. And so that's that's my position on other people's comments. So time is of the essence essentially with these construction crews. Well, time is of the essence to to get going because they have to work on the drawings, etc. And the pause, the delay in waiting.
051We can't just have these guys sitting out there. So, it's going to cost us one way or the other. So, we can't just say because they're at a point where they're ready to to do permanent, I don't want to say damage, progress. They're ready to make permanent progress with the current configuration and the current building. So, we have to come away saying, "Hold it." Now, I'm saying just talking off the top of my head that I mean, it's not like that. Again, I'm not pulling back my emotion, but if something presents in the next days and even weeks, I don't think you're going to see a lot of things that can't be undone in the next several days and several weeks. But what will happen is if we don't move forward, I mean, we are
052going to incur costs and there will be progress that's made that can't be undone. So, what I don't want to do is cost the district, you know, even more money on top of that. And I do, this is a side thing, but I I wrote it down. I want Miranda, and I know Teresa was just wondering aloud, but I do want you to make a note. Maybe I'll ask Dr. Dearman to follow up with it. If there's been any violation of the Open Meetings Act, that should be uh investigated and reported back on just because it was said here in open session and on the record. And I don't believe that to be true, but we'll make sure that that's not the case. So, um any other comments? I just I remember the time you
053brought up the dock being hazardous or what do you call it? what what word you called it and I was asked not to say it again. So if you remember it, you can share. I remember. So this is this is taking care of your problem and there but then you we moved from that way over to the other side to make an attraction for this second civic center here. Well, I think I got I mean I backed off. I mean I think that my I may have talked about the DAC a couple times but I've since been assured that things uh I don't believe that the DAC is going to you know suddenly be vacant. I think that there are I think to Andrew made the point. I think you might not see kids have
054to be there till 10:00 at night. They still might be, but I think the the Dak is going to get used still quite a bit. I know the soccer coach I don't know the the I haven't talked to the men's soccer coach, but the women's soccer coach had his club down the street from me and he loves the deck and the bad weather. So, he's a big fan of I'm not asking for a big explanation. You know, we're really here to teach education, not sports. So, we're getting we're forgetting all about the education portion of our job. I don't think we're spending the money on the sports. Well, we're actually going in the next 10 minutes to go work on a new school, the education piece. So, I I think we can do both at
055the same time actually. So, we've had a motion in a second. Um I just asked for clarification in that. Kendall's here. What What is my direction to them? This is Eric. Eric, sorry, Eric. Um to pursue the the flip or continue holding while we research this possible opportunity Dr. Adrian's working on with the purchase of the land and current configuration extended. that my motion is to is to pursue the flip and move forward with the flip. And if in the meanwhile you guys can, you know, get something done with the other, let me know ASAP. And that's why I mentioned it being a possibility. Okay. [Music] So, to be clear, you're talking about two concurrent paths. No, you want you want Nope. Let's stop a minute. Let's stop and reset. There's one motion on the
056table and the motion is to approve the board to spend up to an additional $4 million on the Dunlap training center which includes which includes possibly moving and the expansion of the facility. Okay. And if you want to and that and that will take into account being able to reorient the site, flipping the building, get working on those drawings to get that done and then it's fit. In the meanwhile, if Dr. Adrian off not in this motion is able to come up with something that you know we have to because there is a half million dollars potentially give or take maybe a little more than that to save. Um then that can be revisited pretty quickly. But the motion as it sits is encompassing to be able to do the flip and the sight reorientation
057and and this the the orientation of the aesthetics of it. We don't care if the aesthetics are terrible like you said on the one one wall is so tall above the trees just so you know that I mean if aesthetics were the main concern it wouldn't be on the back corner where it is. I know we're a little landlocked but there are trees there. I mean, I think you'll have an understanding of what it looks like when you get rendering, right? Yeah. That'll be too late. All right. I'm going to call the question. I got a question. Dr. Dearman, how much is it costing us on a daily basis because we have halted this from the contractors? I know they all have subcontractors that have contracts. Um, we $2,000 a day is what I've been
058told. Okay. That's correct. Do you want a roll call vote? Yeah, there's been a motion and a second, so it's a roll call vote. Yes. Feldman, hi. Paul, I no. Tyra, I wagenbot. No. Y Okay. Motion carries. Uh I'm going to ask for a motion to adjurnn. So move. Second. Second. All those in favor say I. Pose.