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Dayton Board of Education - Business Meeting - March 18, 2026

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YouTube / Dayton Public Schools
Date
2026-03-19
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Campbell County, KY
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19,116 words · about 107 min
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2026-05-17

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001This is the next generation language access. And  basically this program is made for the bilingual   and multilingual students at DPS. And what we do  really they they would receive a very high quality   of interpreting uh services. I mean they're  going to learn how to become [music] certified   uh interpreters. Most of these students uh they  are bilingual as I said multilingual and they   are already helping their family members [music]  when they go to the hospitals when they have any   other needs you know in the community but right  now they are becoming professional in doing so   and they can make money they can start their own  business. I think our goal as educators and as a   district is to really really uh use the assets  that we have in our hands and right now it's   our ELLL

002students with the multiple languages  and [music] cultures that they can you know   um just contribute to the community. I took  the same program training before them. So   uh this program have a many benefits. So among  them we can tell they they can work as contract   interpreters for any any agency and that they  can also work for DPS because they are lo few   interpreters out there on the field and our  students speak many languages. They know the   culture. They have been DPS so they can help us  in the community as a out person outreach person   for the district. I am called [music] to many  schools and I cannot do it by myself. Basically,   I was pushing this to have student to do the  things I do so they can be able we're going to   rely on

003them in the coming days and coming  months. I just want to tell you know how   wonderful how excited I I am because I I worked as  an interpreter in the community. I know the need We are [music] now the innovativemies of the  Dayton public schools are in phase three of   the Ford next [music] generation learning academy  program. And what that means is we are actually   meeting with eight tactic [music] teams that  are writing the master plan. And so that was   so important and so valuable that we now can take  it back and actually implement it [music] to make   sure our students are prepared for college and  careers and can really support this workforce.   We are equipping our students [music] with the  necessary tools that they need to be successful.   It's not just about um the

004data that goes on  in high school. We're talking about reaching   our kids outside of four [music] walls to obtain  uh a career for themselves later down the road.   Okay. Uh I feel like it was really good to  be in this room. I got to meet people that   I never been in a room with before, different  principles, [music] people behind the scenes   that I don't even know about and really like  get to see what goes on outside [music] of just   what I see inside my classroom. I think overall  it was good to collaborate, [music] you know,   bring us all together. We got industry partners  here. You have teachers, you have directors,   our chiefs, [music] principles are all coming  together and we're all sharing our different   experiences and expertise [music] along with  our students. Giving our students

005a voice to   be able to share and speak on their experiences  and the things that they want because it's not   just about what [music] we see, but also  want to see it through their lens as well.   cuz sometimes we get so far disconnected, you  know, from being a student [music] and I think   that's huge to have all parties all on deck  to collaborate. So, this is awesome. Well,   I [music] first would like to thank the hundreds,  literally hundreds of partners that have come now   to over 10 [music] meetings with us to put all of  this together. And from the bottom of our hearts,   we thank them. For any community partners  that haven't been [music] engaged, we would   like you contact us. We have job shadowing,  mentorships, [music] internships, all types   of things that they could

006provide. All of that  helps. [music] But the biggest thing is when you   hear about the innovativeies of the Dayton public  [music] schools, be sure to spread the good news   that there's plenty of about what it means to  support [music] a district that's on the move   and making transformations that not only helps  our kids, [music] it's helping the entire region. [music] You [music] don't you [music] Heat. Hey, [music] hey, hey. I'm a part of share governance [music] and we are  talking about a snaring committee. We're talking   about how to put people into successful [music]  roles and how we can all communicate through   different teams so then we're all on the same  page for the actual goal. It feels good. It feels   really really good honestly. And it only feels  good because at the beginning I was

007confused.   [music] Didn't know why I was here. Just know  my life coach brought me. Now it's like I know   exactly why I'm here. I know what we want the end  goal to be. And I'm [music] really happy to see   that what I'm saying in my opinion, my comments  are building into that final presentation. I'm   really excited to see how it'll all come out.  Honestly, like being here in the process is   totally different than [music] seeing the final  outcome and not knowing the conversations we had,   the different meetings, any of that. So, I'm  really excited to see how the work will actually   come out and turn out. My group is [music] working  on establishing a framework for partners. Work on   how do we create a database of all the partners  at all the schools in the

008district [music] so we   can create some standard operating procedures on  how partners interact with the district and with   various schools. [music] Who are the contact  points at those partners? What areas or what   buckets do they interact with? [music] Is it an  attendance situation? Is it an academic situation?   Is it college and career readiness? The way we're  approaching [music] it at Ruskin, the way we're   approaching the Innovativeies of Dayton public  schools work is through two paths. [music] We   have an experiential path. We are getting kids  out into the world and we are bringing experts   into Ruskin [music] to try to raise kids awareness  of what is out in the world, what careers are out   there when they graduate, when they're adults. The  other path is the academic path. [music] It's one   thing to try to create

009a high school cla high  school [music] classes that will help kids once   they graduate. It's another thing to [music] be  able to prepare kids for the those classes. That   starts with us. [music] That starts with us making  sure that our academic program at the elementary   level is tight. [music] That we are making sure  that kids are meeting benchmarks and are able   to work at grade level so they are successful  [music] in middle school and in high school. I'll call to order the March 18th business meeting  and I will ask the treasurer to call the role.   President Bailey is uh is excused.  Dr. Goodwin is on her way. Mr. Lacy   here. Mr. Smith present. Miss Reinard  present. Mr. Walker here. Miss Garrison   present. Miss Woods present. Could  we stand for the pledge of allegiance to the

010flag of the United States of America  and to the republic for it stands nation. Ms. Woods, could you read for us the the  mission? Our mission is to inspire, educate,   and empower. Our vision is to inspire, educate,  and empower scholars for a lasting impact. And   our purpose is to cultivate a supportive and  engaging educational experience. [snorts] and sins educia educante. Mr. Superintendent, do we have any district  events that we'd like to highlight? Uh, we do,   Mr. Lacy. Thank you so much. District  reconfiguration community meeting will   be on the 23rd, Monday, 6:00 at Ponents.  Thank you for all the families, citizens,   and even students who have sent responses to PIO  uh questions in in advance and ahead of time,   but we will be there with um transportation  and student enrollment to answer questions   and go back

011and do a review of the presentation  to discuss the district reconfiguration. So,   we're looking forward to seeing families Monday  again at 6:00 p.m. at David Hon. Thank you. And   do we have any special presentations? We  do, we do, we do. We're on a augmented   intelligence or artificial intelligence  theme this month. Uh so last month we had   uh Sinclair and our partnership with Dayton  public schools here, Dr. Propes and Dr. Curtis   Miller. So today uh we are bringing up the CEO  and founder of HC uh Shili Byron Bunwa and the   um vice president of partnerships, Lizette  Molina Powell. and they're going to come   up and talk about their work with us with HC that  we're piloting right now. So, come on up, ladies. Thank you so much, Dr. Lawrence, to the board,  and uh to everyone

012here at Dayton Public Schools.   Thank you so much for having us here. What I'm  going to share today, I'm actually going to give   you a little bit about my background and then I'm  going to share why we built HY. A little bit about   my background. As you can see, I have an accent.  So, I am from India. My background is I was a   forced industrial engineer. I was forced to be an  industrial engineer. My heart was in teaching. I   got a teaching degree after that and then I got my  masters at the University of Michigan. when I come   to Ohio, I say, "Please don't hate me for that."  Um, and then I have built several companies in   the K12 space servicing the school districts  always with the mindset of you cannot bring   a solution to

013the school district just because  you have a solution. No matter what you build,   it has to solve for a chronic problem of. So a  year back I went to the journey of what is a big   problem at the school district right now. How do  I change the slide? That is not a problem. That is   not a problem. Okay. So when I when I started  thinking about the problem constantly after   talking to several superintendent and teachers,  what I learned was that training and support was   likely stuck in 1995. In today's day and age when  we all consume content on Tik Tok, on Instagram,   on different sources, when was the last time  we all actually sat in a workshop for an hour   and learned anything, right? The whole concept  of doing workshops, it's sit, listen and forget  

014which is one workshop and then the employees have  to remember everything, go and find the documents,   get the source or call someone their principal,  their district leaders and get the answer. So when   we started thinking about is there a better way  to solve for that. So all employees in a district   feel supported all the time. And we said how great  will it be if we think about that every employee   has a mentor someone that they can go to no matter  what question they have about HR about lessons   about procedures about having a conversation and  but having a human mentor is very expensive in   this age of budget cuts and that's when AI started  slowly and steadily progressing and with the   mindset we created the country's first AI mentor  specifically for district employees. It is you

015can   go to next slide. Thank you. It is it can be used  by teachers, by principles, by district leaders,   by support staff in some of our Illinois school  districts. The board members are on the platform   because sometimes even the board members may not  have answers to what is the district policy for   this thing? What am I supposed to do? What is our  PBIS policy? The beauty about the AI mentor is it   does not touch the students at all. The students  are not on the platform. It has got nothing to do   with it. It's only and primarily to support the  district employees. Now the other thing about   this is and I'll explain that to you. So the way  hy works this is actually an AI mentor. It looks   like a human but it's an AI mentor.

016She is Dayton  public schools AI mentor for every employee. Now   what does that mean? She is completely integrated  to the district's documents, policies, systems,   every single folder. Every employee when they  go to hy is only getting answers from Dayton's   document. The AI is not going to charge GPT or  any generic AI. It's not going outside of Dayton   public schools and any data or information  from outside of Dayton public schools is   not coming to HY. It's completely trained and  secure. A big question that I get always is,   oh, our employees are using it. It it might be  training other AI or those AIs are talking to each   other. Nothing with Hy. For me the security of  your data of your employees the privacy was very   important. The other thing is when your employees  come to hasty

017and ask for guidance no one will   know who that person was. You'll know user 101 but  you don't know who user 101 was unless there is a   threatening question asked which very rightly  so the district leaders need to know. That's   what in the AI world is called guard raise.  AI is like.com. When we were all in college,   when we were all in school, it was a big  deal. But we all shop on Amazon.com. Now,   this is the early stage of AI. Our job is that  we make sure that it solves for a problem and   we make sure that it meets all the requirements of  security and as much as possible, I want it to be   just supportive for employees. So, what does HY  do? And I we'll we'll go to the next one. Okay.   Like

018I said, it can be integrated to SharePoint,  One Drive, Google Drive, Board Docs, website,   Canvas, anything that you want it to and it  only pulls the information from that. This is   very powerful. We are the only tool in the country  today that is built for school districts that is   doing that with the mindset of security, privacy,  and support. Okay, let's go. Okay, so let's say we   take Can you just click this is an anim? Thank  you. We take a basic platform of hy on that we   load day's document day's policy daten stone daten  frameworks and much more to make this Dayton's   AI mentor for all employees. Okay, Dayton's AI  mentor is going to feel taught very differently   from Cincinnati's AI mentor because the more  your employees use it, the more it becomes   ingrained into who

019you are. Okay, let's go. Okay,  so there are three things that HY does and I'm   going to explain that to you. I wish I could  show you the actual demo but maybe not today.   I'm happy to come back at some point of time. The  first thing in the center is asky. We have now the   districts that are we are in six states right  now. The districts that are using Casey today,   they have campaigns going around in the districts.  Did you ask Hy first? Let's say you guys have a   question. You first go and ask hy what is the  district policy on so and so and I'll show you   what hy does you can ask HR questions compliance  questions instruction questions academics even   if your teachers are asking how do I make this  lesson plan it'll

020go and touch amplify and give   them the answer only based on your curriculum so  you feel confident that all the investments that   you've made it's actually adding true value so  that is ask Casey and we have some data on what   your employees at Dayton public school are asking  and we're going to show it to you because we have   been they've been using it for a few weeks. Role  play. This is the newest part about AI. It sounds   confusing but I'll explain it to you when we  get to it. This is where every single employee   has an opportunity to practice a conversation  with AI because AI let's say I'm a principal.   I need to give feedback to a teacher. I go to hy  and say I need to give feedback. Hi becomes that   teacher and the

021principal can practice giving  feedback and they get feedback. Okay, let's say   I came to this presentation and I was like okay  I'm talking to the board. I practiced it with hy   gave me feedback. This is going to be a great  use of AI going forward. Teachers can practice   it to teach a concept to the class before they  actually come to the class. So it clearly supports   teachers to be more efficient. Efficient teachers  build stronger students and stronger schools.   The last thing is tool assist. We heard from  districts, we buy all these tools. On an average,   every district has 42 tools. They buy all these  tools. No one is using it. And we wanted to solve   for that. When an employee of the district comes  and says, "Hey, I need to put some grades. How do  

022I put grades based on the district policy?" Not  only will hasty give an answer, HY will also say   this is Skyward. If you're using Skyward, click  to go there. So now easily every single employee   will start using the tools where you you very  rightly so have invested in. So Hy becomes the   central training development support system for  all your employees and everything gets linked to   it. Why AI? Because it's specific to your district  and it makes it very affordable and scalable. So   let's move through it very quickly. Now this is  what ask CC is employees come ask a question the   immediately the question in full security goes  to all the dats will scan all the documents and   give one answer which is called rag model and  it shows what documents it's pulling it from.   It

023doesn't go outside at all. So that's very very  unique to that and they get an answer and if you   see there it shows the sources that it's coming  from. Okay, next one. Okay, this is actual data   from Dayton public schools when so we launched  with four or five of your schools about just few   weeks back just in few weeks we have learned so  much about what is the top of mind questions and   guidance that your employees need so these are the  schools where we see the highest usage of course   with meodale career tech center being the highest  if it's lower on the other schools that doesn't   mean that their usage is lower. It just means  they just got started. So we some of the schools   are launching next week. So slowly and steadily  you'll see

024and then you also get next slide. You   also get details on what kinds of questions  they're asking. The number one top tracks of   themes of questions coming from your employees  that they need guidance is district procedures.   I can bet if I ask a district procedure question  today, many of you may not know the answer and   you don't know where to go. Gone are those days.  That's the power of AI. You just ask Hy and Hy   will scan all the data and documents and tell you  the answer. The second most common questions is   lessons. Let's say if a teacher is making a lesson  plan, the teacher can tell Hy, I want to make a   15minute lesson plan for grade six science based  on my district policies and curriculum. how I'll   do it. It will only make

025it based on what Dayton  wants it to do. So, that's pretty powerful. Next   slide. Now, these are the top questions asked  by your employees in the last 3 to four weeks.   If Hy wasn't there, these questions would likely  have gone unanswered. Who is my direct supervisor   and superior? I have no idea why that's the top  question. I honestly don't. I I don't. Okay. How   do I balance being respected and approachable?  That's a unique question and this is in sequence   of themes of most common questions. What is the  difference between EL ELLL ESL? That's a pretty   logical question. Is there a curriculum that  I'm expected to follow? Bingo. The moment they   ask that the my hy already knows, okay, this is a  grade six math teacher and they will assume that   and say this is the

026grade six math curriculum.  Click on it and they go there right away. How do I   read an IEP? You'll be shocked how many employees  ask that question. How do I know my students are   engaged? How can I best advocate for myself? What  is our PBIS policy? In a few a few weeks back when   there was a lot of snow in Texas, we saw Texas  employees asking questions in our district. What   do I do if there's a snow day? They don't know  that. And guess what? There was no district policy   on it. So, we can also identify when the employees  are asking a question and it's coming out blank   and the district can have data on. We need more  professional learning content on that. Okay. So,   just a little groundwork there. Let's move on to  the

027next one. This is the role play. Role play is   going to be one of the most dominant feature of  AI going forward. You pick who you want to talk   to. You create the scenario. Let's say a teacher  says, "I want to have a difficult conversation   with a parent." Parent says, "I don't like  the grades you gave my child." Very common   for a parent to feel like that. You go and you put  that prompt on Hy. Hi becomes the parent and you   practice like you're having a real conversation.  We've also simulated a classroom where a teacher   can do that to a classroom. You can also practice  how to talk to your husband or wife. There is no   limitation to that. So we are seeing people use it  for different scenarios. Next, this is the help me  

028talk to my husband is probably just one person who  did that. But these are the common role plays that   we are seeing in your district. Practice a tough  parent conversation. Give performance feedback   to a teacher used by some principles. Help me  practice a teach concept. And then of course that   was just one. So I just thought that was funny.  Okay. This is the tool assist. Gone are the days   where you have to worry that I bought a tool and  no one is using it. The teacher can say where do   when are the grades due? Hy will say based on  the district calendar when the grades are due   and will also say let's say if you have Skyward  click here and go to Skyward. Okay. So easy. So   it all stays within your system. Next. Now

029guess  what? Day public schools being such an innovative   school district is not only the first one to use  HC and bring an AI mentor for every employee in   Ohio but also the first one in council of great  city school districts. I was aware that this is   a very innovative school district. Dr. Lawrence is  very innovative. So when we decided that we want   to partner with only six to seven school districts  to start with, we thought this would be a good   opportunity for us to not only do this but also  get feedback because feedback helps us improve.   So So this is a little brief about what HC is and  what it can do for your district employees and   leaders. Thank you. Mhm. I really appreciate it.  Barnwall, do we have any questions from the board? Sure.

030Um, Mr. Walker, so if this is I guess this  is for the team. How many AI tools do we have as   a district? And what I guess we heard one last  week that was different. We have this one now.   And there's at least five or six other ones  out there plus we have chat GPT and Gemini.   So where what is actually I I I guess I'm just  trying to figure out the the rationale for can   I give an answer to that? Okay, absolutely.  So when you think about chart GPD and Gemini,   what is chart GPD? It's completely open. It gets  the answers from the web. If any teacher uploads   a secure student document on chart GPT that's not  the data is going outside on the web right so that   is chart GPT is when I

031want to know something  I'll just go on the web I'll ask something   personal so when it comes to regulated systems and  privacy it's not private Gemini if you have Google   classroom maybe Gemini can be private but here's  the thing if you want Gemini to analyze a document   for you you have to go find the document in load  it on Gemini and say Gemini can you please analyze   it for me in case of hy it's automatically linked  to all your system so you don't have to go find a   document so it's used for very different purposes  and Gemini you have to still go find and it's only   for analysis this is for support so for this one  is it only linking information from Dayton public   schools or is it linking as well I think you just 

032started working with Lancaster in Texas as well   it's only linking to Dayton public schools, every  school district's data and content is only that   school districts. Okay. All right. Thank you. Like  like I said, Dayton's is not even going to link   to other Ohio school district. It is Dayton's  secure mentor. I have a I [clears throat] have   a question. My question was like what's the crash  plan? Because AI messes up occasionally. Sometimes   it's not as fast as we may want it to be or how  we think. So how can we trust that our business   as a student speaking our business won't go out  into the real world like chat GBT because at the   end it's still AI. So what is the crash plan?  Can you explain that question like crash plan   since AI will crash or

033like let's say a teacher  tries to upload a child's information onto the   HC and it crashes like it just goes blank. what  what are they supposed to do at that point and   what can happen to what are we supposed to do  from a student's perspective because we don't   know where our business is now we don't know  where our personal information has gone okay   yeah that's a great question there's something in  the AI world called isolated tenant okay what an   isolated tenant mean and I've worked with students  and you know built for K12 school districts before   we have built it on the most secure isolated  platform isolated tenant means when data   uh your employee when they put a data let's say  student information on Hy in Dayton it's staying   in Dayton okay it's not going outside

034at all so  it's staying within Dayton public schools model   and it's only training Dayton public schools when  it comes to crash if that means that it didn't do   anything if that's what you mean by crash then  you just refresh the page and it comes back up   here's the second thing we are not relying on any  one model. All the models are US- based. That is   very important. Very important. They're US-based  and they are multimodel. That's what it's called.   But again, it is the most secure platform in the  country right now. I check the security every   week because if it's not secure, like that's  that's not even an option anymore in the AI   world. Anybody who has it open working with school  districts, that is actually not correct. Yeah. But   just to if I may clarify,

035I mean if if if if her  information as a student is put into the to this,   not not anyone in the district can ask HC  like what's what's Ms. Woods up to? Yeah. No,   because they wouldn't even I don't know that  Miss Woods asked that question. So when I was   building this, I wanted to make sure again this  is a support tool, right? If I asked a question,   I'm a teacher. I don't like my principal. No one  can know that, right? It's a private question. I   I really wanted them to trust Hy. And as a  former teacher, I wanted employees to feel   supported because supported employees don't quit.  You retain employees because they feel that they   are supported. You will never know unless it's a  threat question. So that in the AI world is called  

036guardrails. And we can put these guardrails  in collaboration with the district like we   do some work in Florida where the guardrails  may be different from what it is in Ohio. So   we will follow your guardrails and that hits a  trigger to go to someone in HR that hey you need   to look into this. So we can also protect you  from that. No one will know that I as a teacher   said I don't like my principal what do I do?  Okay. Thank you. And that's the privacy part   of it which is very important. Thank you. Welcome  Dr. Goodwin. Thank you. Okay. On one of the Thank   you for the presentation even though I came in  late but I got the gist of it. So we've only   launched is it four weeks or when did we actually 

037launch? We actually started it around I would say   September October but the connection to the data  system usually takes some time. So we spent that   time we got the schools onboarded. AI is new for  like this is purely for employees right it's not   students it's not just teachers. So getting the  employees onboarded and yes it has been about   three to four weeks and we are working with the  schools and principles lock step lock step but yes   that is accurate. Okay cuz our contract I mean  I say this is on our August 19th 2025 contract   which was a year contract from September 25 to  August 26 and since there based on what you said   it took you guys from September to October to get  it launched from here. So that means by February   based on what

038you said a month ago we've only been  utilizing from it being connected to our servers   or whatever that piece is. So we've only had a  month of usage. So the way AI usage works is when   you try to integrate it while you're integrating  you're also using but when I think about launch I   think about actually adding it to the scores but  that doesn't mean that the usage wasn't happening   because you have to train the models starting  September October to speak your district's content   knowledge does that make sense it does it it just  leads me to more questions not necessarily for you   but it's for the team who on our team is actually  the um the user that works with this product,   Dr. Lawrence or Dr. Jones or whomever is the  holder of this project. Uh

039from a technical   standpoint from the district, we share it. So  James has been instrumental. Dr. Curts Miller   has been instrumental. Um Zakiya uh has been the  project has been the project manager. Uh um sh the   presentation today for Miss Miner has been in Dr.  Shehi's shop. We all have bits and pieces of it.   Okay, [clears throat] with the what we approved  was for coaching services for professional   development to teachers, but what I see today  is significantly more than what that is. Can you   just tell me a little bit how we deviated from  what was on what we approved to what we what's   happening today? When you say significantly  more than teachers, it's it's more than Well,   you also I'm asking. So, is this for just teachers  or is this districtwide? Let's start there.   Uh this

040is for um teachers of the primary. HC  was started out with teachers of the primary   but we do have principles who are championing and  using it in several buildings. Do we do we have   any actual feedback from teachers who actually use  this? Uh yes we do. And we spoke to one principal   this morning u from camp um Miss Amy Erns. Amy.  Yeah that was her name. And when we spoke to her,   we we wanted a very honest feedback on what do you  think about hy and if you may I can share what she   said. So her first answer was my teachers love it.  She said they love the fact firstly they love the   roleplay fact because now they can practice having  a conversation and talking and then the second   thing she said was they love

041that it's fully  aligned to district. So when they're getting an   answer, they're not nervous that it is something  that my district doesn't want me to learn or   want me to do. Everybody's scared about student  information. This is not linked to the students   at all and it's also very secure. She said that  once it aligns to amplify and we are loading,   we're still connecting. It takes time to tune  the models in AI. That's why the first year   is all about learning. She said that will  be groundbreaking for her teachers to then   completely get the integration of instruction  with it. So that's the feedback that we have   but I would highly encourage to talk to some other  schools and teachers as well and you will get some   feedback and I would love that feedback as well  because

042we constantly improve when we get feedback   good and bad. Can we actually get numbers on the  feedback? Like I I love hearing a specific story,   but ratio-wise, I'm interested in how many actual  teachers are utilizing this project versus those   that aren't. Now, we're talking administrators, so  how many administrators are utilizing this project   versus aren't utilizing it? I also wonder too,  is it not someone's are several people's jobs   here to do exactly what this product is doing?  Go ahead, Dr. Lawrence. Uh we do have an entire   curriculum department that teachers can reach out  to. Uh this is just another one of those tools in   their toolbox to be able to um ask questions  about um Savas um Teachtown Frog Street um   Amplify or some of the Carnegie work we're doing.  So it we can answer any

043of those questions from a   teacher standpoint and then leaders have questions  that they ask too around curriculum instruction   assessment, data analysis, um portfolio analysis.  So it's just it's another tool u for you to be   able to be curious and understand the work that  we're doing at a deeper visceral level. Can I   absolutely question? So what we have seen is a  big part about an AI mentor is like an expert   in your pocket. It's 10:00 a.m. in the morning  on a Saturday. I'm a teacher. I'm working on   something. I should not be working, but let's say  I'm preparing for something. I have a question. I   don't know where to go. Who do I contact? So I  wait until it's Monday and I ask the question   but maybe by that time my problem is already come  and

044gone. This is the power that an AI inventor   gives you. They are constantly available 24 by7.  So yes a human can answer that question and it's   not going to take away but in the moment when I  have the question in today's day and age all of   our questions about everything shopping we are  driving and we are buying things on Amazon. This   is just the next phase of technology where we are  now giving support to our employees that deserve   it a lot. So it's more about in the- moment  support rather than can somebody else answer it.   So it's about the speed to get the support in the  fastest way. Well the my question is surrounding   interpersonal communication like even talking to  a bot right now we already like public speaking is   the number one fear of

045our society at this point.  Yeah. How is this helping you push forward of you   actually having a conversation with a human when  you are literally talking to a bot? Like what data   do you guys have that that next step is going  beyond just the conversation of absolutely with   myself? So as the generation is going younger and  younger and as the new generation is coming in,   I'm not stopping that, right? It's just people  are born and people consume content differently.   When I was born, my first phone I got in my hand  when I was like probably 18 or 19, it was so big.   Today the kids are born and they have an iPad in  their hand. So the my belief is AI is never ever   going to replace a human. I think by the time  that

046happens, I think I'll be gone by then. But   as the world is progressing, AI actually helps you  improve. So this basically in those moments when I   cannot get a human to practice and unfortunately  our kids are so active socially that they as it   is don't get any support they're consumed with  the social pressure in those moments for adults   this becomes a tool that provides them some sort  of support let's say I'm someone who has extreme   fear of going and talking to someone at that time  I can at least practice with this with AI before   going and having the actual conversation and there  may be some people who may not enjoy that at all   and that's totally fine but for the ones who  find value that's when it really starts adding   a ton of value because

047it's also very scalable in  that way okay so no actual data data I'm asking   about the data I appreciate the narrative it's  great and all that actual data of individuals   who use this and actually can move forward I'm  not saying it has to be here you said there were   six places that you guys are utilizing Yeah. Do  you have any of those type of things that show?   So role play if you're specifically talking about  role plays. Yeah. Role plays is something that we   as a company just launched 3 weeks back. It's a  very latest thing on AI. We probably one of two   companies in the country that has created it. So  will I have data in a few months? 100%. I'll be   happy to come back and show it to you. But it's  still being

048developed on how is this helping with   communication with practicing for a presentation  with having a difficult conversation and once the   data comes in I'll be happy to share with you. All  right. Thank you. And just my final thought on it.   Absolutely. More so for the team than it is for  you on that one. I I do have concerns about how   this is removing individuals ability to think and  know how to do skill sets. And it's not just this   product. It's AI in general here. I mean, we I  think on our website, you guys told us we had   a chat box that does half the stuff that I saw on  here about people looking for policies and things   like that, but that basic skill set of knowing  how to go to the board docs. It's a

049simple search   to do that that that my fear for not just the  products that we're utilizing today is that we are   erasing from our workforce the same way we are  doing some things with our students critical   thinking. because if I never have to do it and I  never had to learn it, then I actually don't know   it if the tool isn't there. So, thank you for the  presentation. Appreciate it. Yeah, Mr. Smith. Yes.   Um, thank you for your presentation. Appreciate  that. This is more so for Dr. Lawrence. um in your   idea of using this tool and others like it, what  do you think is your like feedback loop? Whereas   then secondly, we can create the human touch on  some of these things. For instance, if we see that   we have a plethora of questions around

050a certain  subject or if a lot of things are coming in from   a certain building, what does that look like on  circling back to say is this in something the   training that we did? Is this a PD that needs to  be held uh with this building? Like what for you?   What how do you plan on using these kind of tools  to to strengthen the human interaction with our   staff? Thank you for the question, Mr. Smith. Uh  when I saw the 15 questions from the very initial   two or three weeks that we've been piloting in the  phases that we wrote it out and then I called the   principles, it thought I immediately thought that  every Monday morning at 8:30 there's seven eight   of us in there. seven the core academic team and  we could bring those

051questions there and begin   to talk about that feedback loop and what are  actionable steps to address some of the questions   that we saw like that's what we do every Monday  like how do we fix these things or how do we solve   problems I also saw that it's a also a list for  cabinet as well which is every Tuesday at 8:30   um because this is cross functional um and my  ultimate vision is for all 2300 employees to   be able to use it to get better to become  more efficient um how we use it there to   solve district-wide problems. Um like I I think  there are some things for instance around human   resources that should be automated that we should  no longer be manually doing. I see think there's   some things that that artificial intelligence  can bring

052from a processing standpoint, thematic   standpoint. Um even principles being able to say,  "Hey, here's the data of my building. Um here are   some things that we do in my particular building.  Here are some of the testimonies of my particular   um school uh in terms of people. and hey, what  does this mean for how we recruit and how we move   forward? So, ultimately, I I'd like to see those  type of things happen. Yeah. Um, I definitely on   your second point, I agree on the fact that we do  need to look at what are some of the things that   can be automated and I think inversely for me, I  think there are a lot of things that you cannot   move away from the human interaction that is  needed. Like, you know, if I'm a teacher and I'm

053a   brand new teacher in a brand new urban district,  there's I don't I don't think anything is more   more valuable than having a seasoned teacher being  able to tell me this is what it looks like on a   Monday morning for students who have had a rough  weekend and come from, you know, an impoverished   background where we have a plethora of barriers  that we have like like that classroom management,   those kind of things. is like I I just think  even if we were to practice with AI, if we were   a teacher was able to put in, hey, you know, how  do I handle this situation? I just I don't see   where we get away from needing that piece. Are  you I don't think you're I hope we're not saying   or you're not processing this as we're

054this  is binary. It's either or. Oh, no, no, no. I'm   saying we've not gotten away from teacher mentor.  That's like that's something we have to do by law.   And I think not even the stuff we have to do by  law, the things that we should do by practice   because it's just best practice. I think listening  to to people in our buildings. So, I'm not saying   that we get rid of that it's a either or or that  we even are planning to get rid of it. I just want   to stress the importance of that and lifting our  staff up um and finding ways that we we tap into   that especially if we have an ability to get data  at a quicker rate. I think not only just kicking   these things to cabinet, but even looking in

055the  buildings and saying, "Hey, you guys have a lot of   young teachers that are asking this or you know,  we have a lot of people that are looking up this   policy." Like there's so many pieces where I  think if you're going to use AI, we have to   be mindful of the integration of how we use it  in the day-to-day relationships as well. That's   awesome. I don't think we're moving anything or  getting away from anything. Just wanting to lift   that. Gotcha. Appreciate it. That's all, Mr. Lacy.  Thank you, Mr. Smith. Miss Reinhardt, thank you,   Vice President Lacy. Uh, thank you for this uh  presentation. I appreciate it. Oh, actually,   did we let the record show that Dr. Goodwine is at  the meeting? We did not let the record show that   Dr. Goodwin did enter the meeting

056about 10 minutes  ago. I appreciate it. I did notice a while. All   right. Wonderful. Um, I have two questions. Um  I share a lot of the same concerns about AI as   a lot of other people. Uh the first question I  have is about data accuracy and even though it   is in a closed system with all of DPS's have we  done the testing? So, if you do a Google search   for something, and I know this is not the same  as a Google search of chatbt, um the AI overview,   which I never go by, but you know, you can't help  but see it is very very often incorrect. And um my   concern is that some a teacher will ask a question  about a very specific piece of data or number or   information and it could find conflicting

057answers  and give an inaccurate answer. Has there been any   testing to look at that and correct for it?  Tell me about that please. So the way AI works   is that's called finetuning. Okay. So AI when you  are using a large model like chat GBT they don't   have fine tuners like they don't have tuners who  are sitting and seeing whether the answers are   correct or not. How did AI get built? AI started  building 15 years back in Silicon Valley. We   started building it. It got better and better and  better and then we started hearing about it a year   back. With that power, what we can do today is  let's say someone asks a question. It's called   a rag model. It'll scan all the documents. It'll  give an answer. It's really improved a lot over   the years.

058And when it is not hitting five million  documents from the world and is limited to daten,   the accuracy becomes better. So that's number  one, right? Because it's only sitting inside   your system. Let's say if a teacher asks today  what is the policy of how I should be teaching   if they are sitting in Ohio it's going to scan  all the states policy and give you an answer.   So that's the data inaccuracy when it's sitting  inside data that a the accuracy power goes up.   So that's number one. Number two is we've also  built system inside. Let's say if someone got an   answer and they know it's not correct and that can  happen. I'm not saying it's 100% accurate. We are   asking and training the employees to give a thumbs  up, thumbs down. So when they give a

059thumbs up,   AI learns this is getting better. When they give  a thumbs down, our we have human reviewers that go   every day and see why there's a thumbs down and  then we go back to the model and improve it. So   we're also improving the accuracy, but the so the  two answers are because it's limited and confined,   the accuracy goes up and second, because they're  giving us feedback, the accuracy improves. That's   why to her question like why did it take us so  long? Because we were fixing those models before   we brought it in front of the employees. Okay.  Second question. My second question is about   privacy and we've already touched a little  bit on student privacy as in regards to furpa   um guidelines. My question is so one of the slides  in your presentation has the

060question distribution   by themes. Yeah. Um, and you also had in the  previous slide question support asked and given   by HC per school. Yeah. Are the questions at all  tied at any point to a specific employee? Because   I want to make sure that our employees know if  they're asking a question that's a little bit   more sensitive that they don't have to worry about  because they are tied to schools. I can see that   there is some data that's being connected there  and that uh HC can pull and give reports on is it   completely 100% um private 100% I will sign any  document approve that was very important when I   first started building this I remember there was  uh there was a superintendent I was talking to   from Georgia and he said Shelly if you want this  to

061be truly valuable to the employees and as a   superintendent I'm saying I want my employees  to feel supported because we are constantly   asking them to do better and better and better by  giving them all of these things. Build something   that's supported. So like I said 100% private  unless they ask something threatening and that's   called a guard ray because that's also important  right if someone says something that's a threat   to the district that also has to come up and then  that goes to HR. So that's something that we work   with the district and say what are the 10 things  like any of your security tools if you're using go   guardian or gaggle or any of that if someone is  talking about something that's a guardrail that   triggers otherwise completely secure and private  and that's important like

062even if you as a board   member ask something no one will know that you  asked that question okay so you can't even see   that an employee asked a question you will  know that someone who so you get cohort level   analytics, right? So, because to his question,  it's great that they're asking these questions,   but then what are we doing with the answers and  data that we are gathering? It's a great question.   It helps you improve. Like Dr. Lauren said, so  many teachers in this in this particular school,   most of the employees are asking question about  how to make lessons. Great. That means they need   more help in lessons. And that's when the  human goes and gives the lesson. The AI   will never replace a human. In fact, frontline  jobs according to AI will never be replaced

063by   AI. AI only supports them to do better. So your  humans who are actually taking care like your AI   like your teacher mentors or taking care of your  teachers, their time is relieved from answering   the basic questions and they can genuinely help  those teachers and employees. AI will never do   that. It just is not built for that. But it's  extremely private. Yes. Okay. So, one more time   because I want to make sure that I'm asking the  right question and getting the answer that I'm   looking for. Can at any point can you see that an  employee asked a question if it does if it's not   flagging any security concerns? Zero. Zero. No one  in the no one in the district. No one from my team   can see it. Only I can only see user 101. The 

064district only sees analytics. Oh, like I showed   you, most of the themes of questions are these.  Most of your new teachers have questions on what   do I do? How do I apply for a sick day? If I'm  applying for a sick day, how many days are my paid   leave? Then you know what questions are coming in.  That means somewhere in the workshop training if   it's missed. Absolutely no. Absolutely no. That  is very important. Okay. Thank you. Thank you,   Mr. Vice President. Mr. Walker. Um, okay. So, two  questions. camp is the looks like percentage-wise   the school that is using it the least. I'm  just curious so why not data from Meadowdale   or Welcome or even administration building. So  you're saying why the data from this some schools   is lesser usage than the others? No, I was

065asking  why what was the rationale for speaking with KMP   when they're the lowest one that uses it compared  to Meadell that has 190 count. I think it was just   it was just random. We just we would eat lunch  and like let's call Amy. It was just random. But I   would like again these are schools and principles  you know we can talk to anyone. Okay. And then   my next question is for it to be a top question  that's asked or type top guidance asked for how   many times it has to be asked? It doesn't matter  because we're just doing like let's say it is a   fraction of the total. So it's a percentage of the  total types of questions will have to be asked,   right? So it's just speculative. So, if I take  all of those

066questions and divide it by 100,   that's the percentage. So, the number one theme of  questions asked by Dayton public school employees   is who's my direct supervisor? I have no idea why.  I was just curious on what that percentage is. I I   can get it to you. I can ask her to get it to you.  Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. Yes. Thank you, Mr. Vice   President. Miss Garrison, uh thank you again for  the presentation. Um a statement and a question,   I guess, but the first one could be a question  as well. Would [clears throat] it be accurate   to say that the data that um is being tied to  this it this is only going to be as good as the   data that's in it? So, for example, if if I'm  looking for the policy on tuition reimbursement  

067and we don't have one, then you're not going to  it's not going to be able to give me an answer,   right? But here's the thing, you will get data  also on these questions were asked and you didn't   have an answer. Okay? So then your professional  learning team can go back and say, "Oh,   our employees are asking these questions, but we  don't have those documents." And you can load it.   And that's and that's where I was getting to with  that with that particular question. So we will al   this will also help improve your knowledge base or  what is that? I'm not making this up. One district   we were working with, they had a document from  1995 that was still in the folder. So when and   no one knows that. So this also helps you clean up 

068a little bit that oh you have six documents of the   same policy and across the last decade they have  all been different. So the answer is all over. So   yes absolutely actually that's a very big use case  [laughter] of that and thank you for highlighting   that and so my hope with the leadership team is  that we're looking at you know what questions were   asked that we were not able to populate an answer  for. Um, but in addition to that, and I know for   example, and I don't know if we're also putting  contracts in here because we have different unions   across the district. So if I'm an employee  and I ask a question that [cough] excuse me,   contractually doesn't apply to me, but it's it's  in there um how to differentiate. Yeah. So that's   that's different

069user sets, right? So the teachers  based on [clears throat] the different types of   employees you have they will have access to only  certain type of content. So we can differentiate   that principles will have access to evaluation  frameworks lot many things that teachers don't   have access to and vice versa district leaders  will have different board members can have   different so all like paras if they if you use it  for them will have different so documents will be   sectioned based on the employer who's asking the  question and then based on that we would then be   able to know based on the type of question being  asked what type of employee asks the question   Not the the cohort of employee, not the specific  employ. Right. Exactly. But we can narrow it down   to if it was an admin

070[clears throat] versus a  teacher. Most of your principles are asking these   question. Most of your math teachers are asking.  Most of your one-year teachers and we can [clears   throat] make those cohorts based on what is  important to you and the district. Every district   wants to see data in different ways. Okay. Thank  you. Welcome. Yes, Mr. Smith. Okay. So, that leads   to something I was just wanting to know, but gave  me something else. first. [clears throat] Well,   I'll go to that one since it's connected. So,  you said you can create the different cohorts   for us based on how you want it to be. Right now,  we've created it by school, by content, by grade,   and by number of years of experience of the  employee because you'll see newer employees have   very different types of help that

071they need than  veteran employees who've been here. That's how   we've created it today and by date like what kind  of questions and guidance are people asking for in   August versus over spring break versus something  else. So it gives you that analysis of how the   support is needed in what way. So yes, right now  that's how we've built it. But if your district   wants it to be in a different way before start of  next school year, we can absolutely do that. Okay.   So in that vein then in a way I could kind of see  who a person was that asked the question. No you   can just see the group of right. So I mean so if  I have principal group and the years of experience   is two and I have two principles in a building  and

072one has been there two years and one has been   there 20. Now I know who asked this question. So  so then we can remove that right and that's the   conversation that we need. Oh, no. I think that's  a different thing. No, that's actually a great   point, right? When your cohort of when your sample  size and your denominator of people is very high,   then it's a big group. But that's feedback that we  want from the district. So, we can customize it to   what is important to you. We don't want to bring  you something and say, "Hey, take it." And that's   where the time is taken to build it and customize  it for day. No, no. So for me, I'm not even really   against although he's knowing because I think the  fear of people wanting to not

073know or be anonymous   and things, it comes from a culture that I don't  want to be here anyway. Like I don't want that   kind of culture to be here. I want somebody I  want somebody to be able to walk into a room,   ask any question, and feel like I'm okay. I'm  going to be safe here. This is just a question   I have. So I but I just wanted to think that of  because the more I think of breaking things down,   I do like the idea of having it to where let me  see if teachers who have been here across the   district. And maybe that's something the district  want to do is like have the the the experience   bandwidth not be a building cohort question, but  a district cohort of people across the district.   That's a

074whole another question for those folks.  I think it's a choice that your team will have   to make and if that's needed, I could do that. If  you feel the privacy needs to be there like her,   I could do that. It's just something that we're  hearing like anything is possible. So then my   second question is and you spoke on it. What are  the guard rails or are the guard rails set by the   district of things that we want to get flagged?  So the guardrails are set in collaboration with   the district. Like I said, Florida guardrails  are going to be very different from Ohio,   very different from California. Within districts,  they are very different. So, in collaboration with   the district leaders, we sit and ask them what is  important so that that guardrail, you know, when   it

075comes to guardrails, I'm always on the side of  being more cautious than less cautious because we   have to learn from what it so sometimes hasty will  just hit a guardrail on a basic thing and that's   okay because then we learn that hey, this was not  a guardrail. That is why the employees can give a   thumbs up, thumbs down the leaders who are using  it so we can learn what it is and not. But yes,   it's done in collaboration with the district  leaders. Appreciate that. And then I think this   for for my team because you know the team they  work here I mean big big people but for us as a   board I would I think that's you Dr. Goodwin and  technology committee. Yes. I think that would be   definitely once something to take back to

076that  committee and really look at not only this but   some of the other things and we talk about what  those guard rails and strayations of people would   be. Appreciate you. Absolutely. Promise that's  all I got. Mr. Lacy, Dr. Goodwin, I just had I   hope that the statement that I hope that the  information we pull from here like these type   guiding questions after we have more times. I'm  not sure what goes into our employee orientation   or if we even do refreshers on existing employees,  [clears throat] but if this is a reoccurring thing   that the team our teams do something with it  so that it's not like just out here waiting. So   that's it. Just my request to be back. Okay. Thank  you very much, Miss Barn. Questions. Thanks a lot.   All right. Thank you so much.

077Now, do we have any  bargaining units that wish to speak to the board? Seeing none, do we uh Madame Treasur, do  we have uh could you uh call out the first   person to speak to the public in the hearing  of the public? Uh Dr. Slouse. and Dr. Sloth. Do we hear the next person? Rachel uh Carllet. Rachel. Okay, Miss Davis. I thought that was you. I'm about to  say Dr. [laughter] Okay, Dr. Davis,   you have something you want to say? [laughter] Okay, Jason Balick. She'll ask it on HC now. [laughter] Okay, Jackson Dickerson. Okay. Okay. That one as you're coming. Oh,   I lost it. Can you sir, can you  speak? Uh, call you about that. Can you speak within in just three minutes?  I'll try. And um state of course state your   name and your

078address. And what else do you need  to do? It's inappropriate to talk about anything,   right? to address any matter involving pending  disputes, grievances under a labor agreement,   disciplinary action of an employee or student,  ongoing labor negotiations, concerns, or matters   that have already been settled and or any matter  which because of its nature deemed inappropriate   to be discussed in an executive session.  Um, go right ahead. Before you start, I just did you I'm just curious. Did you want  to talk publicly or to the board? Um,   I just wanted to share a few things so doesn't  matter. Okay. Um, uh, so good evening members of   Dayton public school district board, the Dayton  public school district senior administrators,   and the Dayton community. Um, special thanks  to Lisa Miner for inviting me to speak today.   My name is Jackson

079Dickman, and I work at Wright  Brothers Middle School, uh, as a current educator   in our district. Um, I would like to take a moment  to share a collection of remarkable moments I've   noticed in our district. And I would like to  call them unnoticed moments. Sometimes these   most meaningful moments are the only things that  I've seen that have gone unnoticed but are quite   remarkable uh from the dedicated educators in  our and professionals in our district. Uh the   first moment I would like to recognize are the  extraordinary staff members from various schools   who work in our school district uh that travel  far and wide. Um working in this district for just   about two years now, I've come to learn that there  are uh individuals that travel far from Lima,   Ohio, from Indianapolis, uh Indiana or Columbus,  Ohio.

080Um so I just wanted to share that it is   something remarkable that we got de dedicated  educators um to work in our district because they   value the mission and the passion for our students  here. The second moment I would like to highlight   is the remarkable work happening in the classrooms  themselves. Uh the work that deserves to celebrate   beyond the walls of the building where it takes  place. Um I attended a uh training at fresh or at   Belmont's uh the freshman academy and I saw great  work they did. I also saw great work that uh the   science coordinator Kurts Miller has highlighted  in his monthly science reports multi-anchor   charts. I took those inspirations to bring it  to Wright brothers um and ran a PD session for   the colleagues that I have at Wright brothers. Um  so

081it was really inspiring to see those different   things to bring to Wright brothers and enact uh  creating a ripple effect for change. The third   moment I would like to focus on is the fascinating  work led by the CT administrators Matthew Fulberg,   Dr. Christina Harsh and Christina Willoughby.  Uh particularly at the middle school level.   Uh their leadership has opened new doors for the  middle school students. Um recently uh the medical   detective program at uh Wright brothers uh worked  diligently uh and a certification in the medical   pathway. Um I am also uh been uh working a little  bit on engineering certifications for AutoCAD   in my own program. So I thought that was very  awesome. Um the last moment I'd like to recognize   is the incredible efforts of the Wright brother  middle school business teacher Jamie Noak. Um

082she   has brought many industry partners to talk to our  students uh ranging from pilots to comedians um to   talk with our students and engage in meaningful  dialogue. One of the best things I like about   those is that um it's kind of a presentation style  and then the students at the end have a Q&A and   it's really interesting and fascinating to see  these cool uh students curiosities uh in these   different areas that she brings. Oh, that's  three minutes. Okay. Uh, thank you for your   time. Thank you. I didn't I didn't hear your name.  Jackson Dippen. Thank you, Mr. Dippen. Thank you, Madam Treasur. Is that all? Yes. Then I  forgot something and I slide something   in real quick. Well, you are up, but you have  the floor. There it is. I have the floor. Uh,   Dr.

083Jones, would you mind coming up?  We have a special quick recognition. you break it. You buy it. Uh thank you, uh Vice President, uh Joe  Lacy. Uh to other members of the board,   uh Dr. Lawrence, thank you. On behalf of the  Southwest Ohio Athletic Directors Association,   uh SWOTA, it is our honor to announce  Mr. Jesse Watts was the recipient of the   Middle School Athletic Director  of the Year. [applause] Presented to a middle school 78 athletic  director in recognition of service,   leadership, and involvement with intercolastic  athletics at the local and district levels.   The recipient of this award must be assigned  the leadership of a grade 78 athletic program   as their primary responsibility. Ads who serve  as high school AD and 78 are not eligible for   this award. This is an award that directly  reflects the hard

084work Jesse puts into his   position representing not only Dayton  public schools but also the respect that   the athletic directors of the Southwest  District of Ohio hold for him. [applause] I just want to say uh thank you for the  opportunity, Chief Jones, for giving me   this opportunity to uh give back to the community  that I grew up in and thank you for the hard work   that y'all put in for the board and athletics.  Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate you. [applause] [clears throat] Uh, Vice President Lacy, I'd  like to make a recommendation that the board   take my appointments B through G. So move moved  by moved by Mr. Walker. Do we have a second?   Second. Second by Dr. Goodwin. Do we have any  discussion? Yes. The on Dr. Good one. B4 the   it's network engineer. The location

085says from  Lello to Lllo. We have positions for IT and LLO. Great question. I did some research [clears  throat] and um all of our IT staff is under   um Lello. Uh there isn't a like a  PCN uh position control number for   um for the IT side. Okay. Thank you. Do we have any other questions? Hearing none. President, go ahead with the  roll call. Okay. Dr. Goodwin, yes. Mr. Lacy,   yes. Mr. Smith, yes. Miss Reinard, yes. Mr.  Walker, yes. Miss Garrison, yes. Miss Woods, yes.   Six yeses. That motion passes. Next go. My next  my next recommendation, I recommend the approval   of my HR resources DEA after July 10th. So move.  Second. Moved by Dr. Walker, second by uh moved   by Mr. Walker, second by Dr. Goodwine. Excuse  me. Do we have any discussion? One of these

086days Dr. Goodwin, no. Mr. Lacy, no. Mr. Smith,   yes. Miss Reard, no. Mr. Walker, yes.  Miss Garrison, yes. Miss Woods, yes. Three. No. three yeses. Motion  does not motion fails due to   having it needs four board members. Um, go ahead,   Dr. Superintendent. I'd like to ask the board  to take a look at the budget information. Uh,   if there are any questions we can't answer  today, we will send them via email. And if not,   we can also take those in the budget committee.  Uh, that I think is in good standing. Mr. places or finance committee any qu if are there  any questions about the budget information hearing none oh is it no go ahead Dr. Lawrence, I would ask  that for a vote consultant services and   agreements. I would make a note that there's  one new

087um consultant agreement, Quiver Ed,   for consulting services for K through8 music.  This is just an extension of what we agreed   to do in our academic action plan in terms  of music and arts extensions in all the K   through8 elementaryaries. There's no charge.  It's title two. And then I think there is on   contracts I think there is two Dayton Convention  Center rental agreement for the athletic hall of   fame and data works uh HR personnel management  which we're entering into a two-year contract   uh which includes maintenance and support  for data and upgrades. I make a motion to   accept superintendent A through C. Thank you.  I hear a motion. Do I hear a second? Second.   Motion by uh Mr. Walker, section or second  by Dr. Goodwine. Is there any discussion? Okay. Hearing no discussion, can we have  a

088roll call? Dr. Goodwine? Yes. Mr. Lacy?   Yes. Mr. Smith? Yes. Miss Reinard? Yes.  Mr. Walker? Yes. Miss Garrison? Yes. Miss   Woods. [snorts] Yes. Six yeses. Motion passes.  Uh I'd like to board to take pay attention to   or take notice of uh my recommendation for  review uh for the bell schedule for the   2627 school year for review. So it's up for  public notice. We have it on the the website   for public comment. Um and I also will bring it  up at the March 23rd reconfiguration meeting.   This is simply for uh for review and  we'll bring it back in April for a vote. One question. Can we can we hear if there are  any questions? Yes, Dr. Goodwin for individuals   to give comments. How do they give them on the  website if it's or is it just

089on there? Is there   a link or something for them to click on? I  would do it. Uh mostly what they do is they   send it directly to PIO. But we can make a link  though. I was at I couldn't find a chat box when   I was on here today. So, I just want to make sure  that that and even at the reconfiguration if we   could have something written for them to give  you guys comments on and people taking notes,   that would be just great. That way, if people have  something to say, this is your opportunity. Uh,   you got it. I think uh yeah, I'll give Alex K.  I'll make sure it's forward facing and that you   can go straight to that because we're already  getting questions. One final. Have we ped or   talked to our

090administrators if they had any  comments since like they kind of have a better   post on the buildings than most of the people  who sit in this room? That's why we have it   out now for them to take uh take a look at  as well. I've called I called five six six   six of the seven secondary um administrators  to ask them about the times that we have and   um that room that we put together was a  cross functional cross operational team   uh that put this draft schedule together. So, yep.  We we we wanted out there to get some feedback   from them on the to answer your question. Yes. The  primary are there is there any actual flexibility   in primary? Uh I would you know I'm going to go  to one of my teammates uh Dr. Benson

091Taylor or   Dr. Jones. You want to come up and talk about  the primary whether it's flexibility? That's   where I get the most complaints about about our  younger scholars going to school at 7 a.m. So, if   people are giving you guys feedback, just [clears  throat] want to know if it's actual flexibility in   if it's overwhelming or something in that piece  for that change to be made at that age level. [cough] So I think the uh the issue good question  by the way. Um I think the issue is   um numbers and distribution. Um I mean for our  elementary students it is uh it is early right.   Um but I think what is being presented is a more  um equal distribution of routes at each tier. So,   is that a yes or no? Um, can you repeat the 

092question for me? Is there any flexibility   like if individuals who have children in the 7  a.m. bracket, if they come out an overwhelming   overwhelming number of individuals to pro provide  feedback on it, do we actually even have the   ability to make an adjustment based on that? I  just don't want people to waste their time for   something that we can't do anything about. Right.  Right. Uh it it's pretty tough. It's pretty tight.   So is that So I would say I would say no. Okay.  Okay. So there's actually no feedback on that   time. All right. Thank you. I have a question. Is  what? Um my question was what's the actual change   because I don't maybe I'm just looking at high  school cuz I don't remember what time I went to   school in middle school. But what's the

093actual  time change? Like who's actually changing time?   So the tiers are the same, but the PE the schools  in the tiers are the same. There have been some   changes from the tier first tier schools, a couple  that were in the first tier, then in the third and   then reversed going from third to first. That  second tier is already packed. So it's pretty   um pretty tight. So we didn't we didn't make  many changes there. And then the high schools,   your high school has been changed to 8:15 because  there's a bus that gets off right after 8:00 that   creates about 50 or 60 tardy people at your school  every day. Uh, so we changed the time to 8:15 as   well as some other schools so that um they can  be at opponents and not be tardy. And

094we're   experimenting to see if this 15-minute gap changes  the number of students that are downtown at the   at the hub uh for next year for the 2627 school  year. Thank you. You're welcome. [clears throat] Can I add a little bit to that? [clears throat] uh  charter schools uh are required to give us their   uh bell schedules uh April 1st. Um also  I wanted to shed some light on a a bill   uh Desiree Tims House Bill 545 uh which would  provide more funding uh to transportation   departments. And the the the even powerful  component uh of that legislation is that uh   we would we would go in good faith and  have conversations with the charters   uh and the parochials um to determine what  their bell schedules were. But if they didn't   accommodate us, you know, we would

095we would not  be in the position of negotiating. For years,   we've had to negotiate with charter schools about  start times. And so, if you're watching, um, watch   that bill and support that bill. You actually went  up to Columbus to talk with her. Correct. Mhm. Mr. Smith. Okay. Um, got like three of them. So,  with the high school special opponents at 8:15,   what happens then if the RTA just changes their  bus routes and bus schedules like they've done in   the past? Like, we've had to deal with bus routes  moving, bus times changing. Like, we we aren't   in control of what they can do. So, I mean, just  moving that because they currently have a bus that   drops them off late, I don't see anything that  stops them from coming back and saying, "Let's   move this bus

096and have it come at 8:45 instead."  So, I think like us moving things to deal with   the situation that we have no control over is  just is just guesswork. And I think for me then   knowing the way buses move and the way that has  gone, I don't know if and I don't know how much   flexibility we have in that with you know staff  and how they have to be. I don't know how much 15   minutes will actually change the number of people  that are downtown because we also do not control   those bus routes. And then also the way that the  buses move and the time in between like we don't   control that piece. So I think I mean that is  a small window when there are certain buses   that only run every 30 minutes or

097every hour.  So stopping creating a 15minute block where it   would not have other kids down there does nothing  if the bus that they're waiting to transfer from   only comes once an hour. So I think if it's it's  one of those it just it sounds good but I don't   know how good it is in practice because when I  was in school we had way more buses so buses ran   at a more constant schedule. Some of these buses  and some times of the year certain times of the   day they really run once an hour or once every 45  minutes. So taking a kid 15 minutes off of that,   you're just going to stagger the the the same  group being down there. So, I think I would want   us to look more into having a conversation with  RTA

098and really looking at what that long-term plan   looks like for them as well because I wouldn't  want us to do something and what'll happen is   the news will say DPS plans to do this to stop as  many kids from being downtown and then somebody   gets downtown and goes, "No, it's the same amount  of kids that are downtown." And then it's egg   on our face for something that we don't control  in the first place. That is my thought on that.   Thank you, Dr. Goodwin. Dr. Jones, if you could  just explain one more time because I'm going to   get this email and these questions why the 7:00  elementaryaries can't be in the 8 a.m. tier and   the middle uh the secondary schools can't be  the 7 a.m. tier. If you would just explain   for the people at

099home why they don't have any  option after 7 o'clock, that would be great. So, Dr. Goodwin, are you saying to make all of our  schools 8 to three or 9 to 4 and then secondary as   a 7 to2? I think she's saying you could swap.  I'm I'm saying explain why the secondary,   which most of those schools we don't provide  transportation to at all, are in the 8:00 one and   the 7 a.m. one are the elementary ones. because  again the ongoing complaint from many parents has   been why did their scholars have to be at school  so early in that piece. So I just want I kind of   know the reason but I want someone to explain  it so those individuals know the rationale or   what you guys can and can't do and it's on the  record.

100So you're you're talking about a swap   between tier one and tier two. Yes. Elementary and  high school. Uh historically it's been because of   after school activities, athletics uh that plays  a a huge um uh a lot of a lot of high schools   um started that uh second tier. Okay. And then  having transportation available after Okay. Go   ahead and explain. I want to hear your logic on  that cuz they would have still they would have   more time after school if they rent her. I didn't  think that was the reason that you was going to   give me, but that's the one charter school routes  or whatever you said. Sorry. I'm saying like tier   two is also uh charter school heavy as well.  Explain that part for individuals. Okay. So,   uh in tier two uh right now a

101lot of the  charter schools um have identified 8 to 3   or 8:15 to 3:15 as their start and end time.  and we and tell them what that means for us   because people need to know like why would we get  bumped from a time just because another school   is starting at that time. That's kind of what I  want you to explain to the public. So we have to   provide by law transportation for uh parochial  schools, charter schools and of course our own   uh students as well in DPS. Um and what happens  is when uh we are late to parochial charters   u then we we run the risk of being fined. Uh  last year I believe that uh we amassed fines   of up to a million dollars. Okay. And how do they  get the 8:00 slot over

102us? Like what if we wanted   the 8:00 slot? Why can't we have that is kind  of my question for you to explain to the public. or can we have the 8:00 slot and we just choose  the seven? No, it really it really boils down   to what is the most efficient way to get each  group of students to their respective schools. So we could have the 8:00 time is what you're  saying if it was the most efficient way for us.   I mean, I thought it was a different thing, but  go ahead. Currently, unless unless Representative   Tim's bill gets through and becomes part of the  law, we can't have the 8:00 because the charter   schools have in quotes first dibs on making their  selection. They're sending us their selections   right now and we have to abide by

103that. And  that's what creates the total log jam because   they pick the most preferred slots and then we  have to take the leftovers. Okay. I just want   people to understand like that's why we can't  get that slot for you if that's the thing. But   I don't know talking to you kind of sound like  it was something different. So I was like, "Oh,   well maybe maybe the rules rules have changed  in the years." And that's what I was trying to   I'm trying to get that on the record. That's  what she's trying to change. Okay. Okay. I   I misunderstood. Oh yeah. No, that's it. I  just want people to know why we don't have   the option at 8:00 for our younger individuals.  And it's not because we don't want it. It's you   got your hands are tied

104a little bit by  by state law. By state. Correct. Right.   And that's why Yeah. Efficiency is Yeah.  The key. So, okay. Thank you. Definitely. Then um [clears throat] the inter the  international school at Residents Park K   through 8th begins at 7. And are we continuing  the international school um 9 through 12? We   are not continuing the international school 9  through 12. Okay. And um did was there a was   there consideration of um the schools that  have um like afterchool programs like like   um I don't know I don't know yeah things  like that that is that is typically one of   the first considerations u ruskin is typically  always on the first tier uh because of miracle   makers. Uh I want to say Fairview is typically  on the first year tier. I have to look again   because

105of uh Omega CDC. So that's that's part  I wasn't in the room at that during that time,   but that is typically part of the conversation.  Okay. So you're [clears throat] not aware of   any like big changes for those schools  that have No. And we sh if we haven't,   we're going to share it with our partners too and  have a conversation. And I know that Miss Miner   has regular conversations with she's shaking  her head with Omega CDC about everything from   reconfiguration to transportation. Thank you.  And after school services, [clears throat] Miss   Reinhardt. Thank you, Mr. Vice President. Dr.  Lawrence, when is your ask that this be voted   on? Is it at the April review meeting or the April  business meeting? The April review meeting. Thank   you. That is all. All right. That concludes my  recommendations. Nope.

106Oh, say staff travel. Oh,   you know what? You're wait. Yes, I do have  another recommendation. Thank you so much,   Dr. Goodwine. Uh, staff travel for a vote.  So, move. Second. Moved by Dr. Goodwine,   seconded by Miss Reinhardt. Is there any  discussion? Mr. Smith. Yes. In looking at   this with the travel, one of the people that is  on there is would not currently be an employee,   but we voted for to pay extra days. Would this  be part of those days that we're talking about HR? Oh, Dr. Lowry, I'm sorry. I was looking  at something. Dr. Mr. Smith, what' you say?   So, you asking me about why Dr. Lowry is  on there and what are the parameters of   that? Right. Would that be since we voted  to pay for Dr. Lowry to do work before   the July

1071st date? Is this part of those  days? Yes, those are part of her 15 days. All right. Thank you for the question. No other  questions. This is not general fund money,   but it's ES ESC money. Title title 2. E. I  thought last week it was ESC. It was title.   It was title two. No, somebody said ESC.  That's why I'm confused. Do you know who   it was? Your team. That was somebody from my  team in the audience spoke and said DSC. You   know what? I we can go through it. I I'll go  through my notes, but I think that was Yeah,   it wasn't me because I know Dr. Excuse  me, William Smith asked to follow up   immediately about title two. And then I think  we responded via email, too. I'll double check. Can we vote on

108what say Mr. Lacy?  No, I was going to let Mr. Lacy go.   Oh, then c can we vote on this? Dr. Good. I thought you were  asking a question. Oh, no,   no. Okay, I'm sorry. I had another question. Um, so my question is if we're using title two funding, technically title two funding by definition  is to go is really about recruiting, hiring,   retaining teachers, supporting school leaders at  the building level and professional development.   Um, so then why would we be using this for a  retreat if there's no people at the building   level going? Professional development isn't  just for people at the building level. It's   for senior level staff as well. So So then  that's my response. [clears throat] But   that's not what the definition of title two  is. Title 2 A like how much are

109we using the   title? like if you could provide a breakdown of  where we're using that title 2 a funding at the   building level because for me then it's  also it would make me go then why can't   we find somewhere closer to do a retreat if  we're talking about how are we spending money then is there a yes that is my my question and I don't  have to get it today but I would want to   see like what is the plan of how we want to  start spending these things because on paper   it's it it opens the question of there's ways  for us to do this and not spend as much money   as well or use the money and spread it out  in different ways as well but that is all thank you Mr. Smith are

110there any  other discussion. Seeing none,   I'll ask for a roll call. President Dr. Goodwin,  yes. Mr. Lacy, yes. Mr. Smith, abstain. [cough] Miss Rard, yes. Mr. Walker,  yes. Miss Garrison, no. Miss Woods? Yes. Four yeses, one abstain, one no. Motion passes.  Miss, do you have any conclude my recommendations?   Thank you, Madam Treasurer. I recommend the  approval of the following A to I as reviewed   last week. So moved. Second. Moved by Dr. Goodwin,  second by Mr. Walker. Is there any discussion? Seeing no discussion, I'll ask for  a vote. Dr. Goodwine, yes. Mr. Lacy,   yes. Mr. Smith, yes. Miss Reard, yes. Mr.  Walker, yes. Miss Garrison, yes. Miss Woods,   yes. Six yeses. Motion passes. Does that conclude  your recommendations? Yes. Mr. Business Manager,   do you have any recommendations for the board?  Yes, sir. I only have two.

111Um, I recommend   ratification of the following two contracts with  the city of Ketering and Triple J Snack Services.   So move. Second. Moved by Dr. Goodwin, second  by Ms. Reinhardt. Do we have any discussion? Seeing none, I'll ask for a roll call. Dr.  Goodwin, yes. Mr. Lacy, yes. Mr. Smith,   yes. Miss Rhod, yes. Mr. Walker, yes. Miss  Garrison, yes. Miss Woods, yes. Six yeses.   Motion passes. New business. In so much as  the board of education of the Dayton city Oh,   actually, you know what? Wrong thing. In so much  as board education is committed to the continuing   updating of its policy, rules and regulations  and manual in the committee which was appointed   by the working towards that goal. The following  is brought at this time for second reading and   compliance with board file. Now therefore be  it

112resolved that the board of education of the   Dayton City School District, McGomery County,  Ohio hereby accepts and adopts the following   policies that have been codified for inclusion in  the handbook of policies, rules, and regulations.   I move that we adopt policy DGH DGI E DD JB JBA.  Second. Moved by Dr. Goodwin, seconded by Mr.   Walker. Is there any discussion? Miss Reinhardt.  Thank you, Vice President Lacy. I just want to   point out there are two policies that are up um JB  and JBA. I just want to point out this is due to   um it's revised to align with legislation and the  conversation we had in policy committee was really   interesting. Um this uh piece of legislation that  was passed um creates a lot of confusion. I think   I think the intent of it was to simplify the

113um  a entrance age for kindergarten but the way it   was written was really really frustrating. And  I just want to point out that it's another piece   of legislation from the state house that went  through without a lot of um thought and input   from our administrative and academic leaders.  And it's incredibly frustrating to have to deal   with and try to figure out how to follow the  policy while still um making the process the   enrollment process for Dayton public as easy as  possible for families to navigate. And it was just   a I just want to say it was a really frustrating  conversation and we're doing our best to um abide   by this new piece of legislation. That is all that  I have. [clears throat] Anyone else? Can I just a   clarifying question? So Dr. Lawrence, if a

114child  is not 5 years old by the first day of school,   then they cannot enroll in kindergarten until the  very next year. That's correct. Got it. Okay. have any anyone else? Seeing none, may we have a roll call? Dr.  Goodwine? Yes. Mr. Lacy? Yes. Mr. Smith? Yes.   Miss Reard? Yes. Mr. Walker? Yes. Miss Garrison?  Yes. Miss Woods? Yes. Six? Yeses. Motion passes.   We um moving on to board member comments. Miss  Woods, would you have anything to enlighten us   with? I have no comments today. Miss Reinhardt.  Thank you, Vice President Lacy. I have a couple   things. The first is I would like to thank um the  district members who came out to the um spring   conference uh and um were there when I received  my master board member recognition. It was really   nice to have district

115support there. I really  appreciate that. That's a personal thank you.   Um we've had a number of committees and I have  a number of updates for you. The first is we had   the community engagement committee. Um, we had a  really good conversation and I bounced some of the   things that came from that committee conversation  to Dr. Lawrence. the um the the biggest one is   with this reconfiguration to the district,  how are we using this opportunity to gather   um input and engagement from families and the  opportunity we have um in resetting some of these   schools to support and reinvigorate and re-engage  um parents in the PTO's um PTO's in our schools.   Uh this has been something that I've cared about  for a very very long I was a PTO mom before I was   ever a board member.

116And it's completely on the  backs of parents and volunteers. This is this   has to be separate from the district. This is not  something we can do. This is something that is um   uh parent and volunteer and grandparent and and um  guardian driven. Um we support as best we can in   the district and um I'm grateful for every single  volunteer in every single school that does that.   But it means in middle schools, families only  have their kids um prior to the reconfiguration   in these schools for two years. It's a lot more  difficult to build a community and things kind of   taper off middle school and high school as well  too. Um so I'm grateful for Dr. Lawrence for   making sure that we figure out who in the district  is responsible for supporting the work of PTO's  

117um and the parent volunteers outside that. Um  and I'm looking forward to those conversations,   Dr. Lawrence and seeing how we can um support the  work of parent volunteers and the communities that   are built inside each district, each building. Um  I today went up to Columbus. We had a vouchers for   Ohio steering committee meeting and I'm on the  steering committee. This is the lawsuit that is   suing the state of Ohio. There's a coalition  and Dayton is one of the plaintiffs um over   the expansion of Ved choice vouchers. Uh we had a  really good steering committee meeting today. Um,   last week we had our first um, federal legislative  advocacy group meeting to prepare for our visit to   DC in September. Um, and I will update the  board and the district as we get closer to   that on

118some of the legislative platform and the  work that we're doing to prepare for that. And um,   afterwards um, the I attended a few weeks ago  uh, my first black caucus meeting. Um, I have a   legislative update for you. So this is a number  there are a number of um pieces of legislation   that are relevant to public education. I wanted  to run through them. It was really great. The the   update that I got from OSBA where I um uh the the  lobbyist said I I'm really excited because there's   some really good pieces of education legislation  on the docket right now, which is not something   we hear all the time. Um, uh, House Bill 4544 is  in the Senate Education Committee as of last week,   and it's basically an omnibus education bill.  There's a lot of deregulations,

119basically a lot   of cleanup that needs to happen to district um,  administration is happening here and good clean   up, necessary cleanup, and we're grateful for  all the legislators that are working on that.   There are some graduation requirements um that  are being changed for IEP students. Um and they're   going to change the way that board vacancies on  um school boards happen uh to give us a little   bit more time if there's ever a board vacancy.  Um Senate Bill 19 is the math instruction bill   and this is really interesting. The state house  is trying to do something with math instruction   to kind of copy what we did with the science  of reading a few years ago. uh the science of   reading. This is the difference there is science  of reading um was a um an established academic  

120piece of study that really showed what works best  for teaching kids how to read. The math it's not   quite the same. Um the desire and the intent  there is to really provide highquality math   instruction for our students and to um make sure  that it is standardized across the state, but it   doesn't follow the same research as a science of  reading does. Um, but I am on board for anything   we can do to improve math achievement. Um, House  Bill 661 is an interesting bill. This is the name,   image, likeness bill for high school students.  Um, I was in the House Education Committee um,   meeting for this one and I was not expecting I was  not planning on staying in the meeting very long,   but the conversation about NIL stayed ma  made me stay there. And then

121funnily enough,   a few days later, I was in a meeting um  and the OSBA president for this year,   um Mary Cleveland told of an experience. She is in  the Princeton City Schools. Princeton City Schools   is one of the schools that actually has a student  that could benefit very well financially from   name image likeness. Um and I was not in favor.  So the this bill would ban name image likeness.   um possibilities for high school students and I  am in support of this bill but I wanted to share   this anecdote that um Mary Cleveland uh shared  with this group um and it really illustrates   what my concerns about this um there is a student  in Princeton City Schools who is a very very good   athlete and um brings a lot of attention to the  games um the

122district has to have games at Xavier   University Because the attendance at the games is  so big, logistically, it's very difficult for the   for the district to figure out how to accommodate  the crowds that watch the students games. But she   said that the the way that the other students, not  this high achieving athlete acted, but what it did   to other kids that were playing, because everybody  wants to be the student that did better than this   high achieving kid, right? Everybody wants to  be the student who um outplayed them even on   his own team. She said she had never seen such a  hostile game before and it was entirely because   of the attention, the spotlight that was on the  student and she was appalled at what it did to   what should be teaching our kids how to

123it. The  goal of athletics, particularly student uh uh K12   athletics, the goal is not always to win. The goal  is to teach sportsmanship and cooperation, um to   better your your social skills, to understand  sometimes that you're working with a group.   There's so much more than am I going to win or am  I going to lose. It's so much bigger than that.   Um, and I am really, really, really worried for  what the possibility of name image likeness could   be for our high school students. Um, for students  who can't even legally sign a contract themselves   because they're not even 18. Um, so I'm in support  of House Bill 661 um because I don't think this is   something that should be opened up to our high  school students. That's me personally, just so   you know. Um, House Bill

124671 um is uh a bill that  would I'm actually I'm not going to talk about   that right now. Apologies. I want to um since I'm  running short on time, I want to call to attention   two Senate bills that were brought to the floor  or were brought were presented by our state senate   um our state senator Senator Blackshere. Uh and  I had a good conversation with him about these as   well too. Senate Bill 330, which would establish  a mental health day excuse for students. Um, this   is something I do as a parent for my kids already,  but it would give uh students the ability to have   this be an excused absence. And then Senate Bill  333 would establish a student youth youth council   across the state. Um, I can, if there's anybody  watching who wants more

125information about this,   um, these are great bills. Please contact um,  Senator Blackshere if you have any more questions   or um, let me know if you have any questions  about those. Um, but I wanted to thank the   senator for those. And that is all I have. Thank  you for letting me take the time. Thank you, Mr.   Walker. No comments. Thank you, Mr. Walker. Mr.  Smith. Um, yes. First, I just want to say thank   you once again to everybody in the district. I do  want to lift up our maintenance workers because   this month, March 6th, was maintenance worker  appreciation day. So, I want to just say thank   you to everybody that keeps this place going and  all the things that they do. Also, yesterday was   National Social Worker Day and school national  school social worker week is

126in the month of   March. So, with that, I just want to also lift up  the people that do that work and stand in a great   need. Um just seeing the conversation that  we had last week with our visitors and about   the the different situations our students come to  schools with. Um just want to say I really really   really appreciate that. Um I am glad that House  Bill 661 was brought up because I do want to say   that I am strongly against it. Um, Ohio is one of  the few states in the nation that does not have   NIL for its high school athletes. It also is not  a situation where it has corrupted these sports to   a level that we have not already seen sports  be played in our in our state. And so to me,  

127I am against the fact that lawmakers want to ban  students from being able to profit off of name,   image, and likeness. But state people have not  done anything to deal with the inequities that   happen in athletics for public schools at all. So  for instance, a student can transfer out of here,   go to a private school. Student comes from a  school public school go to here. The transfer   rules are different for students transferring  into public schools. the [clears throat] in   other charter schools if a charter school does  not have a sport they can go play at a public   school if a public school does not have a sport.  So if we do not have a certain sport at one of   our schools that mean our students are just out of  luck and they cannot participate whatsoever.

128So,   while the state is looking at trying to ban people  from benefiting on their god-given talents and   abilities, which also one of the things I want  to bring up is that young ladies have been one of   the biggest beneficiaries of NIL across the nation  from getting cross-country sponsorships to uh our   runners and swimmers are really benefiting at this  level. and it's also been one of the motivators to   put um women's athletics at the college levels  across the board. So, while our state is doing   this, they're lacking the foresight of what it  does. Even the the the player who was mentioned   that is at Princeton High School, he's only in  Ohio because of the fact that the state changed   the NIL rules. This was a student who wasn't even  in the state of Ohio. So now

129we're talking about   people if they're in a border city or be frankly  we had a child here who was just in the Dayton   area who transferred out of the whole area. And  so we're looking at the state finding more ways   to penalize children instead of looking at ways  to create equity. And I hear my colleague on the   anecdote from Princeton, but I'm also a kid who  grew up and saw LeBron James playing Ohio before   there was any NIL and they had to move all their  games. I saw OJ Mayo on Cincinnati. They moved   their games. The city of Dayton used to have to  have our games at UD Arena because they couldn't   fit in our gyms. And some of the times we still  are thinking about where do we play games because   we can't fit

130them in there. And all of that has  nothing to do with name, image, and likeness. We   have a district where we've gotten paid because we  have Welcome Stadium and our stadium is big enough   to take on games that other schools can't play,  which brings extra resources and revenue to our   district. And that has nothing to do with name,  image, and likeness. So my question for people   is to really take a look at what people are doing  for education and against education because right   now the things that come out around athletics in  the state of Ohio, one are arcane and backwards   because we're really moving it forward where the  states all around us are offering something that   our states aren't that our state isn't. And so  it creates this system where that is that that   imbalance.

131Not to mention, like I said before,  there is a great and gross inequity with the   way we have to do sports. And if you want to talk  to Miss Jones at some point, she has to deal with   all the time because our our public schools are  constantly put behind the eightball where the same   state that is trying to push away NIL is the same  state that said if Styver doesn't have a football   team, nobody can at Styver can play anywhere else.  But if a kid goes to Horizon and they don't have a   football team, then we have to pay for that child  to play football here. If a kid goes to a private   school and they do not have it, then they're  allowed to go to a public school. Whereas we are   not able to

132do those things and sometimes we find  ourselves trying to stretch our resources then to   provide for children because the state laws and  regulations set forth for us are placing our   public schools at a disadvantage. Sorry for taking  so much time, but appreciate all of you guys and   let's keep the main thing the main thing. Thank  you, Mr. Lacy. Thank you, Mr. Smith. Dr. Good one. Thank you. So, first I'm going to start with  where my closeup on my camera. Here we go. It's   got this flyer. I think it's a really cool thing.  Taco about literacy cuz reading is a great thing.   Everyone should read a book every week and  we should always talk about what books we're   reading to encourage more people to read because  reading and writing are gateways to being really   successful as

133scholars. And I say that to tell you  right now I am reading book two of A Gathering of   Shadows. Be e Schwab. I don't know if I could  tell you guys to check it out or not. I just   started it. It may or may not be good. I'll come  back to you next week. [laughter] But I started   the series so I need to see where the story story  goes. I want to highlight the math Olympics that   happened this weekend. I did get a chance to go  there and check it out. It was really great to see   our younger scholars just out here excited about  it. Shout out to us being able to invite another   district in. I think that was awesome. I mean,  they came and they took a couple first place and a   third

134place, but you know, we going to come back.  So, thank you. uh thank you for making that happen   that Jefferson Township local school districts did  participate in our math Olympics and it was really   good to see them be able to be a part of that.  Everything from the display from the whole e from   the whole afternoon even I think the project life  gave out little uh snack bags with fresh fruit and   vegetables in it. It was just an allout good event  and excited for that to happen. Tomorrow is the   final round of the regular season of debate. It is  from 5 to 6 pm. If actually you should come, not   if you want to come, you should come out and spend  one hour. It's really gonna be like 45 minutes and   check out some of

135the middle school and high  school debate teams. All of them are going   tomorrow and this is the last round of regular  season. The customer service committee has met and   we have finished the customer service standards  which we have been working on for two years.   We are excited that we are going to be rolling  that out to our district leadership in June as   they will be the first group to go through that  training. The technology and steering committee   has a lot going on right now. We are final up are  finalizing up some stuff in our AI policy which we   saw last week and we have a couple other policies  that are coming our way and Mr. Smith just threw   something else at us. So good stuff. School and  programming and curriculum we are scheduled to   meet

136this week. We have been actively moving  now that we are through the re recall what's it   called? Reconfiguration. The reconfiguration. Now  that we are through that, we are now moving on to   looking at curriculum and some other things. One  of the great things that came out of last week's   speaker was [snorts] actually getting feedback  from the actual users of the curriculum. So,   we will be scheduling a in-person conversation  where I invite every teacher, any person in the   district who utilizes the curriculum to come and  be a part of the discussion so we can hear your   feedback on it and we cannot make assumptions of  how you feel about it. The date will actually come   up with a date, Chief. She weed a date. It's gonna  be in April. By the end of this week, we

137will have   location. By the end of this week, we will have  a date and location confirmed. So, if you are an   educator, tell your tell your fellow educators.  We want you there. We want your feedback and we   want to know what's going on. Let's see. The  athletic committee, we as today we did approve   a location for our Hall of Fame. We will have  more information. We did solidify the first   class. We're going to do a really good job of  rolling that out. We're excited to bring in what   will be the district's first Hall of Fame class.  And I think we got some really good candidates,   our nominees that are going to move on. So, we're  excited that we are almost at the end of doing   the first celebration. Let's see. On a personal  note, I

138want you guys to know that I am almost   done. I am a month away from being done with my  classes for my CTC license. And now I have that   information to share. and I'm hopeful to get other  individuals to go through that program as well.   One of the good things about being in the program.  The actually my professor was very excited that I   I am at Dayton public schools. Although I am not  an employee, I didn't realize that I was the only   person from an urban institution in in the class.  So, we have significantly different experiences.   So, I'm excited to connect the College of Rio  Grande with Dayton public schools because they   do have teachers who we can potentially bring  into our organization. Now, I feel good about   that. I do want to make a

139note on the NLI just on  a different perspective that both of my colleagues   shared from a training that I got when I went to  the athletic conference for the year and it's kind   of on a smaller scale of it. Some of the anecdotal  stories that were told were not necessarily about   large are like the star athletes, but they were  told about local home heroes like the the kid that   was able to be the individual or got a NL deal for  the local beauty shop or for the local shoe shop   or the local sandwich and things like that and  how it was a good piece for their organizations   because it gave hometown pride in that piece of  for individuals to be able to see those pieces.   I I do support NLI because I mean the world

140has  changed significantly in that in the way we charge   people to come watch these children do their  sports but NLI isn't just in sports because also   it was a story one of the story they were talking  about like someone in the engineer club who got a   sponsorship because they were now they were doing  really big things in the program and that went on   and another like a law firm wanted to utilize them  to sponsor how great it was working with these   students. So, it's not just limited to athletics,  although athletics gets the bulk of it. Any   student in our district would be able to benefit  from that if they have something that someone   finds appealing. And again, these contracts  we're talking about sometimes like $500. We're   we're talking I mean, just enough in that part 

141to put actually the law firm wanted they needed   a social media ambassador. And I just thought it  was a funny story that they they picked a student   there and it was their social media ambassador and  they gave him $500 for being that individual. So,   it's just I don't want us to I mean it's a range  of opportunities out here and reality is we got   to this point because a parent in Ohio sued they  started a lawsuit. So that is usually what happens   when people disagree with the law. you you go  do something about it and you have a split of   it and either the law changes to fit the times we  are in or it doesn't. So, I'm excited to see what   happens next. I do hope that no matter what comes  out of it,

142that our students are able to benefit   throughout the district, not just in athletics,  because again, I think that was just a really good   story that I got to hear about how non-athletic  students were also embracing the NLI piece of   that. And my final point here, we are in March,  which is we're almost done with the third quarter   of our time together for the 2526 school year. And  I think it's really necessary that as we go into   the fourth quarter that we just remember this is  we are a district. We have a lot going on. We have   a lot of competing interests. And when it comes  down to it, the only way that things work here is   if you guys trust each other's work. If you figure  out how to work together and how we figure

143out how   to move forward in everything we do. I'm excited  that we're almost I'm hoping I think Friday is   the first day of spring. I hope it comes. I mean,  I just hope it doesn't keep being winter. This is   my least favorite month or time of the year. But  I'm going to hope that not only do we continue   to progress as a body that the many changes  that are coming that you guys are all in on   them because they're happening and they are more  successful when the individuals who have to make   these changes occur accept buy in and move forward  and give feedback when it's appropriate. Our run   is necessary and when the time is there. So I'm  excited to see you guys. [clears throat] We're   done this meeting. The sun is still out.  So

144thank you vice president. Thank you,   Miss Garrison. In the interest of you guys being  able to see the sun that is still out, um I will   limit my comments. Thank you all for your work.  Appreciate everything that you do. Uh be kind. We   have a lot going on in the world from the from the  top uh leadership on down. So, you never know what   folks are going through. So, just give somebody a  smile, a word of encouragement, and let's get it.   Y'all have a good good evening. Thank you, Vice  President Lacy. Thank you, business manager Jones. Just have a really quick announcement. Um, our  annual All-Star game is coming up on March the   29th and it'll be held at Belmont. So, be  on the lookout for um more information. So,   can I can I ask

145a question? Go ahead. If we sign  theou with UD to use UD Arena for it, why don't   we use theou? I'm sorry. If we signed theou to use  it at UDI Arena, why are we not using theou? What   was the purpose of negotiating that in theou? Uh,  Mr. Walker, I think that was part of the on main   agreement and I have to I'll go back and check  my notes and check our u I'll get with shares,   but during those negotiations, board member Smith  and Dr. Goodwine were there too. Welcome stadium.   Yeah, w Yeah, welcome stadium. And I think  something happened during that negotiations   where the the All-Star game option was pulled out.  Let me go back and research that and get back with   you. Okay. The one that I sent and Mr. Kid has  a

146record of actually has it still in there that   we signed. Okay. So, I've asked this question  every single year, but we don't use it. So,   this is now my public ask of that same question.  I will work with Dr. Jones to double check that   agreement and then ask the University of Dayton um  why we don't have access to UD arena. I appreciate   it. Okay, no problem. Treasurer Braha. Yeah, I  have a good thing. Um this week uh we received   um certificate of excellence in financial  reporting from association of school business   officials international. I would like to say thank  you to my team treasury team for their dedication   and uh uh contribution to this one. It wouldn't  have done it without their dedication. And also,   I would like to thank the board for their help.  Congratulations.

147Thank you. And Superintendent   Lawrence, uh, shout out to the treasures office.  We had two two two really good ones today. Time   clock plus, thanks for leading that meeting with  the principles. Kelly, they're excited about   their vacation and being able to roll it over if  they don't use it. So, we now have got them in   line with all the rest of the administrators. We  appreciate working with you for that. Um, also,   um, with our 24 pay, we're going to have a  conversation with central services tomorrow and,   um, also with all of the collective bargaining  arenas. We're going to try to wrap that up   tomorrow morning at 9:30. So, it's it's been  really good working with you through that space.   Uh, Louise Troy, shout out to Mr. Ishman, the  custodian there. Um he has the I mean

148his floors   are just sparkling but also they have the best  butter popcorn there. So if you want popcorn you   should go there. Um Sarah Hamilton has the flu.  Sarah I have all seven pages of notes that you   sent but I'm not going to read them tonight.  Uh then [laughter] Dumbar Dumbar Bell Haven   uh I mentioned Luis Troy already. um really good  in um instruction in some of those spaces and and   a good spirit there. Uh EJ Brown, Miss Leiden,  I just want to read some feedback that I gave   her. Um I've been in your room twice this month.  I've noticed the following lessons that are well   planned and evidenced by the lab preparation.  Physically standing engaging in tier one   instruction. Uh today I observed extended response  writing prompts to engage in critical thinking   regarding molecules

149and our district approved  science curriculum. And oh, by the way, your desk   is really neat and organized and the materials  seem to be available. Um, I hope you stay with DPS   as a teacher. Um, continue to do the great work.  So, we have some really, really good stuff going   on out there. Um, Roosevelt, Dr. Samson, great  third grade tour the other day. Lots of teaching,   lots of small groupoup instruction, lots of tier  2, lots of complex interplay between the kids,   and I saw homework packets for everybody. Um,  and then Dr. Goodwin, I'm glad you mentioned   I've been meaning to do this for months. We're  educators. We should be reading. So, thank you   for the other West Moore. Um, I'm almost done  with that. And also, I'm reading original sins,   um, miseducation of black and native

150American  students. And thank you, thank you, thank you   for all the volunteers, um the students  who participated, central office staff,   um community folks who came out for Read Across  America. Um that was that's just a really fun   event where we talk about reading. So that's um  Oh, how could I forget? Um shout out to Zelica   Trail. I got your text. I'm going to return it.  Um Shereice, Mon'nique, and Kim, I'll see you at   some point next week. Take care. Thank you. And  um as far as my comments, I I want to announce   uh we had a finance committee last Thursday  and saw everything was in order. I want to   tell everybody to enjoy their spring break that's  coming up and you can read your book then I guess. Also want to wish to those that

151celebrate  a blessed Passover, a happy Easter, a holy   id aletur, a ver a nice vernal equinox.  Yes. And as a child, I always got candy   on St. Joseph's day. So have a good one. Thank  you. And according to and pursuant to section   121.22G2 of the Ohio Revised Code, I move that  this board go into executive session. This meeting   is being held to consider the appointment,  employment, dismissal, or compensation of   a public employee. I That's a motion. Do  I have a second? Second by Dr. Goodwine. We Yeah, that's okay. You had fun. You do  it every time. Every time. It never fails.   Is there Is there any discussion? Can we have  a roll call? Dr. Dwine. Dr. Goodwin Goodwin.   Mr. Mr. Lacy. Yes. Mr. Smith. Mr. Smith.  Mr. Smith. Miss Reiner. Yes. Mr. Walker.   Yes. Miss

152Garrison. Yes. Miss Woods. Yes,  ma'am. Six. Yeses. Motion passes. Why was   I the only one to stand? They going  to say she was ready to go. Right.

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