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Dayton Board of Education - Special Meeting - May 29, 2025

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YouTube / Dayton Public Schools
Date
2025-05-30
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Campbell County, KY
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22,417 words · about 125 min
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2026-05-17

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001i'm here today I'm here today I'm here today  I'm here today I'm here today Are you are you   are you at DPS attendance is important That's  why we're challenging all schools to increase   and improve their daily attendance So I  ask again we're here today Are you are you hello my name is Molly and this this  school is called Viv Monasury School   and and the show that you are watching is  called a Kindergarten Accent Kindergarten Okay So what's your name what's your name miriam What's your name dan  Don Yes So what's your favorite animal aad   lion What's your favorite um animal  Miam i like elephants What's your   favorite animal a lion What's your What's  your favorite cartoon a shot Cartoon Yes All right let's move on What's your favorite  cartoon um Super Kitties Hey Super Kitties  

002Super Kitties I like that That's rude What's  your favorite spiderman All right What's your   favorite comic book boy what's your favorite  comic book spiderman What's your favorite comic   book daddy show Okay Comic book I got one All  right What's your favorite comic book i don't   have one What's your favorite comic book i have  And that's perfectly fine M That's perfectly   fine A dinosaur Dinosaurs I got a comic book  I don't like dinosaurs Raise your hand I don't   have one What's your favorite book if you don't  have a comic book a comic book No it's a book   like those Not a comic book The book Okay I  spared me Everyone what's your favorite book   are you scared no No You're scared Is that  the one that's right there no that's that   one right there with the

003bunny and the bear Oh  that's my favorite That's my favorite Okay I'm   going outside everybody So let's let's move  on What's your favorite book uh dinosaurs Why   does it always have to be dinosaurs because  I like dinosaurs What's your favorite food no I'm first No you're not I get the choose who's  first I know you ain't about to talk back to me   lady Oh I will call you old man if you don't stop  calling me old man Did you just call me old man so okay let's move on What's your favorite movie um Spiderman What's your favorite movie  dinosaurs Why do I always have dinosaurs   movie Why there's nothing because dinosaurs  That's a cartoon Because I like dinosaurs   Dinosaurs is not a movie Yes they No it  isn't Let's move Okay I'm going downstairs Thanks

004for watching as kindergarten Make sure you subscribe Thanks for Yeah Hey Who was Did you get Who what so this is  Did you just say somebody was   mansplained okay that's what I thought  you said That's yours Is that my space   oh tell me who it was I was really  listen I'm always listening Um yes So I'm sorry They're moving downtown Yes I looked that up today and I was like same I could see I could get them yesterday  I can't get them today I just want to say   OEC is so far the only department  where their nonpayroll has decreased I I agree And it's I mean  734,000 That's a decrease Oh you know appreciate that Yeah it's not easy Pretty cool We haven't figured that out Remember that water sure He does I now call

005to order this May 29th special  meeting Madam Treasur may we have a roll call president Goodwin here Dr Bailey here Mr Lacy here   Mr Smith here Miss Rhiner present Mr  Walker present Miss Wick present Seven present to the republic for which it stands   One nation under God indivisible  with liberty and justice for all Our mission is to inspire educate and empower Our  vision is to inspire educate empower scholars for   a lasting impact And our purpose is to cultivate  a supportive and engaging educational experience   Are there any bargaining units here to speak  all right madam treasur do we have anyone   registered to speak from the public no All  right we are moving into our first department   of budget presentation I believe that is our  lovely internate auditor Brilliant internate auditor She is brilliant I'm really excited

006to be here today to present the  fiscal year 26 internal audit department budget   Um we can move on to the next slide This is truly  just an overview slide um which has more detail in   the next two slides So we're going to go ahead  and skip this one but we can always refer back   to it Um one of the first things that I want  to highlight that will impact both this slide   and the next slide is that this department was  reestablished this last fiscal year So with that   being said there are some significant increases to  kind of percentage- wise to non-payroll expenses   because we previously or currently are budgeted  for zero payroll expense non-payroll expenses   And then there were also some increases to our  payroll expenses as well Um because the only   thing budgeted for

007in this fiscal year was uh my  payroll and non and my benefits as well The oh   we can actually go back I'm sorry Uh the total  uh fiscal year 26 total uh payroll request is $422,160 This includes both my benefits and  salaries as well as the executive secretary   Tina Cornett and the new uh vacant position  as of the next fiscal year the internal audit   coordinator position Um this coordinator position  will be focused on increasing the amount of audits   and projects that I will be the department  will be focused on for the next fiscal year   Um and also help expand testing to make sure  that it is even more thorough when we're covering   different areas of processes when we're evaluating  We can come you would go to the next one For   our non-payroll requests the total

008non-payroll  requests for the next fiscal year is $14,500 The   non-payroll requests includes training so virtual  and inerson trainings Um specifically this is   related to certifications that I myself hold and  hopefully the new person will hold as well Um for   different certifications um each certification  usually has about 40 continuing professional   education hours which are required to continue to  have that certification Um let alone if there are   specific trainings that will increase the ability  and the skill to audit specific areas So that's   where that goes and that also includes the travel  associated with such trainings that are in person   The membership dues is next for $1,000 Um  that includes Institute of Internal Audit uh   membership dues as well as Isaka membership dues  for the district employees under this department   Um both of those membership dues not only

009help uh  for awareness of different industry best practices   they have journals publications that are available  to members as well for free and then also they do   reduce the cost for trainings So if there's um  a training that has to do with a specific area   um oftentimes it's a half of the price to  non-members So this actually is beneficial   to the district fiscally as well And then the  knowledge leader tool This is a software that   um basically is like a bank and a library for  not only journals and publications that have   to do with different auditing standards but also  industry best practices It also helps highlight   different um testing procedures and this will  be extremely beneficial this knowledge source   um as we go about this next fiscal year as  developing and fine-tuning those procedures   methodology methodologies

010and policies are one  of the number one priorities of the department   And then meeting materials such as food for audit  committee member meetings Um those are quarterly   meetings that are between the hours of 5:30 and  7 So typically dinner time So having some snacks   there and some water and potentially some soda  will be helpful uh to appreciate those volunteers   And then also this is um able to be used for  other supplies such as paper and notebooks and   pens and all the things that are necessary to just  produce work in general We can move on Um as a   reminder the department's impact the goal of this  department is to provide value added independent   assurance services that assist DPS in achieving  its goals uh assess and approve risk management   internal controls and operational processes while  promoting accountability

011compliance and effective   resource use At the end of the day like every  other department here we're here for the students   We want to be able to even though we are behind  the scenes and not necessarily student facing   all the time um we want to empower our staff  um to be able to do the best that they can do   in their positions but then also highlight areas  for improvement that we can all move forward and   um pursue as a district as a whole um continuing  to push that in uh continued growth mindset So   that's it Are there any questions thank  you I appreciate the presentation and I   also appreciate the work that we've seen in the  short time that you've been with us I think it's   been very beneficial Any comments from the board  appreciate the

012presentation Thank you That's all   Thank you All right Our next budget presentation  is from the Department of Exceptional Children Good evening everyone So the office for  exceptional children's budget overview   page is just like Sarah's So we can skip it All  it is is a summary So we'll go right into the   second page if you're okay with that Thank you  Silly silly What page we going to this This is   not the same one I have We're just going to follow  you You just talk to us about what you have then   All right Well we'll just listen to you All eyes  on you That's it Okay So the full-time employees   471 compared with 485 for the 26th school year  As you can see that's an increase The 25 total   payroll is 40 million 40.2 million It's going 

013to go up a little bit Um so there's an increase   right there in the staffing payroll as we have  increased our student enrollment So you can see   that our student with disabilities in 2425  is 2,238 students with disabilities Um and   I think I typed that one of those is supposed to  be the other year So we have an increase to 2,31   students with disabilities Again that's a typo It  should say 2526 So we have 485 FTEES is what we're   um we're budgeting for for this upcoming year  Good with that The next page is the non-payroll   requests We have purchase services purchase  services which includes our contractors Uh we have   to contract like we've talked about before for  some of our related services and um interpreters   things like that So we're at 7 75 There we

014are  We're going down in this The reason why we're   going down in this area is because we've employed  some board certified behavior analysts and some   RBTs registered behavior technicians So we're  going to try to put some of those services inhouse   rather than contracted out And that's going to  save us some money So that's where the saving is   really coming from We're trying to really build  up that program and we have a lot of students   um with high needs in behavior management and so  it's a it's a good program to have in house So we   are hiring if anybody out there wants a job and  um other than that our impact is our next page So   the office for the office for exceptional children  ensures equity across access and opportunity for   some of our most vulnerable

015students Our impact is  not simply measured in the terms of compliance but   really in lifechanging outcomes We work to help  students gain independence gainful employment and   to participate meaningfully in our communities  So I kind of ranted that kind of quickly but   you guys have had it for about a month I think So  you guys have any questions for me thank you for   the presentation I will say I did get to see some  of your staff recently Say it again I got to see   some of your staff members recently and I hope the  scavenger hunt went well Are there any questions   from the board quick question Okay So the 14 the  14 increase in staff is that so is is the reason   for that twofold is it partly because what as you  said you're moving some

016in-house and and staff as   well we we we have an increase in students  So we need more we need more teachers and we   um are increasing inhouse So when I say in-house  I'm talking about the OEC office which is   consisting of those BCBAs and those RBTs So does  that does the the change in ers does that affect   that also or no um I I can't answer that I'd have  to defer that to Okay I got my answer So this is   Yeah this none of this is grant Okay great That  makes sense Okay thank you Any other questions   i'll just say on the record um what I said earlier  I think you're the first presentation that you are   decreasing your non-payroll request So I'm very  appreciative to see that Thank you Well I hope it   lasts

017Thank you everyone Uh something else Thank  you All right Mr Anderson I believe you're up All right Good evening everyone Uh we  appreciate the opportunity to present   to you President Goodwine Dr Dr Betty VP  Dr Lawrence uh Treasure Ava and the board   members I'm going to go over some budget  information staffing then Mr Calhoun to   speak about departmental impact and then  Dr Benson and Dr uh Jones will speak about   strategic planning So we'll start with budget  Next slide please Can I interrupt for one   second can someone give some of us access to  this uh slide because it's saying to request I'm just going to read that Okay  you can keep going though I just   wanted them to know that we didn't have it  Okay good We'll start with uh full year uh   26 227 full-time

018employees 15.2 million 15 uh  million237,320 to be exact and our nonp payroll 11,372,732 as opposed to this year 213   uh full-time employees uh 13.8 million  for our salary and benefit requests and   our non-payroll $8 million So and you can  see that's a net of 14 full-time employees   1.4 million in in salary and benefits And  the the total non-payroll will be 3 thou 3,255,824 Next slide please And you can  see another breakdown This full year 213   employees or 13.8 versus our request for  next year is 227 uh full-time employees   That 15.2 I spoke of and uh that increase  and then the 1.4 You can see the breakdown   13 uh bus drivers full-time bus drivers Uh the  pair is about 60 uh mechanics 10 uh administrators   eight and then the DS DSS combined with our six  van

019drivers of 16 and three clericals And that's   how we arrived at the 227 Then our non-payroll  request that that purchasing purchasing service   purchase service you can see we're requesting  uh we had 3.2 2 million for last year Then this   year it jumps because we're purchasing our RTA  bus passes through that versus previous years   uh being purchased by Esser So that's  why you see an increase there up to 4,590,15 Then the next one conversely  uh you can see a decrease 4.2 million   uh was used this year We're requesting 2.8 8  million uh for this upcoming school year And   that's because and that's a $1.3 million decrease  because over the past few years we've done a good   a good job of purchasing primarily for our buses  backup cameras Uh we also have PA system Those   are things

020that are not year-over-year uh  purchase requests We've already purchased   those so we don't have to continue to do so over  our 175 buses So then our dues go up somewhat   uh we really want to focus on per uh professional  development not only for administrators but our   bus drivers with say OAP in Columbus our mechanics  or certification the buses that we do have the new   ones that we received just last year are so much  more sophisticated uh than our older buses So we   really want to ensure that our mechanics for  example stay up to uh speed as far as training   what's required to u maintain the maintenance  on those vehicles Then also no advanced fees   So uh eight $8 million last year was used  We're requesting this year the 11 million $372,732 for an increase primarily

021driven uh  somewhat by the RTA bus passes of 3.3 million on   the bottom there the rationale is we really want  to continue not only professional development but   continue to work on the culture and customer  service and that's internal to DPS internal   to transportation but also with the community uh  with the schools you know administrators there so   we want to continue and improve I think we  made some improvement over the last couple   years but we still have a pretty good amount of  uh improvement needed in that area also we want   to continue to hire train and re retain train  school bus drivers We we did a good job this   year We had some retirements uh some resignations  but year-over-year you know our hiring has kind of   uh mitigated the loss that we felt there So we 

022don't anticipate any retirements next year for   example but we until we get into the school  year we'll see So we'll continue to hire and   retain our drivers but also our mechanics our  our DSS members etc Then lastly that decreas   decrease as I mentioned in the supplies  is because we purchased a great deal of   items for our buses over the previous two  or three school years Next slide please Can I can I ask while you're coming the the  increase of the 14 staff what is that going   towards is that an increase of bus drivers  increase of mechanics pairs where's that 14   coming in at um some of those are actually just  being run back from when they were funded under   ESA funding Gotcha Okay And then we're also um  having a couple more drivers to try

023to mitigate   the issue that we've had with drivers Okay  Thank you Thank you Good afternoon So we're   actually um working to reduce uncover routes  uh by increasing staffing of course but also   by route consolidation Um we've looked and seen  hey where can we become more efficient here how   can we explain these things to our employees  in advance so that they know hey what you start   with at this time might not be what you end  with It actually says in the union contract   that we could do this based upon enrollment  but making sure that we are clear and upfront   with what's going on that is for the sake of our  children and getting them to and from school but   also looking to see hey can this school ride  in this direction with this school can this  

024kid be picked up around this time things like  that Just to be looking at it from a logistic   standpoint Of course we're going to have a  safety mindset behind it but making sure that   we are really crunching down on those numbers  and getting the most out of the environment   Um we were able to do that this summer for  example We actually cut our summer routes in half   um based upon what we did last year So just  so that we were able to build on and learn and   not just start in August with something that  we haven't currently been working on Um also   improves zone coverage like I said by tighter  routing Um of course we talked about it before   I think at the board retreat There's some of  those buses that are wheelchair accessible   that

025for years have just been used for um children  with exceptional needs No we're actually of course   pushing towards the integration Of course we'll  have to consider there are certain cases where a   child may need to ride by themselves They might  have to have that service but most children that   have special transportation we talked about  this with uh Miss Dmore plenty of times Most   of the time it really just says they're required  to ride So can they be on a different bus can we   add other children onto this bus to get them to  where they need to go so that we don't have two   or three buses in the same area going to the same  school picking up a brother and not their sibling   Um so that we're really able to consolidate and  make it as

026efficient as possible Okay Thank you Right Uh good evening Dr Goodwin Dr Lawrence  Um this is the information that we gathered   from our students and our staff and community  members as we work to um improve and make uh   transportation more efficient And so just a few  themes I won't go through all of them because   there are a lot of them but um timeliness  and reliability was the number one theme Um   that was one of the data points that popped up  frequently whether it was a student that said   um I you know I wanted my bus to come when  I get outside or it was a parent that had to   wait Um that was a number one thing Um safety and  security about being at the bus hub We've talked   about that The bus environment and

027the conditions  Um this is related to the physical state of the   bud buses such as cleanliness the temperature um  some things too hot need more air Um the one thing   about the young people is that they were very very  clear about what they wanted and young people said   they were thankful to have transportation  um some of our elementary students And so   um they they had a lot to uh input They were  concerned about student behavior and management   um of students on the buses one of the things  that they asked us to look at and to work on   Next slide Um the bus drivers there was really  good feedback about the bus drivers and we are   working on different professional development  opportunities for our bus drivers Um working   on our training to include more training that 

028um reflects the nature of the job We tool our   drivers with a CDL Um but we are also working on  our training program so that we provide them with   a toolkit of driving a bus with a full um uh group  of yelling and screaming students or working with   parents that are at the bus stop and may not be  in the best of moods on any given day And so we're   working on our training program so that we adapt  it to the actual experience And um that was one   of the things that both parents and students  talked about Um the routes and the coverages   came up how long I'm on the bus as well as the  bus passes and the accessibility Next slide Um   communication and information Uh parents want to  know where their buses are

029um needing the app to   be faster update faster um how they could get more  communication about where the bus is um if the   bus is delayed what if their route changes They  also theme nine positive feedback and contentment   Some respondents expressed satisfaction with  the current transportation Um as I stated one   child said that they were extremely grateful for  their transportation and um there was a a desire   for um amenities such as snacks and music and TVs  and things on the bus Some of our younger riders   thought we should upgrade their experience So we  have actually talked to um between the community   the students um as well as our uh transportation  employees we've received over 2,000 responses   regarding our transportation experience And we  continue to engage to make sure that as we move   forward with our

030transportation plan for the  future that we are addressing the needs of not   just the students but the employees and the  community as a whole Any questions thank you All right Thank you Dr B for um elucidating the  themes uh drawn from our uh students staff family   and community members Um I think it's going  to be critically important uh in developing   our strategic plan uh that we will share with  the board at a um at a date not too far from   now Um now the topic at hand that is uh very  pressing um I believe to some degree threatens   uh everything that we want to do that we  are attempting to do Um as all of you know   uh there has been legislation uh introduced  in House Bill 96 uh that will uh restrict uh   mass

031transit uh organizations uh ability to allow  students to transfer um to other buses at downtown hubs highly restrictive Okay And so uh what  I have done what we have done uh is create   uh somewhat of a not a flowchart but a depiction  of uh what will happen if house bill uh 96 passes   and what will happen if house bill 96 fails Uh  first things first if house bill 96 passes again   um our students will not be able to transfer  uh to another bus downtown What does that   leave us uh everyone here already knows  that uh utilizing our own yellow buses   is not an option at this time Uh we would  need in essence uh 73 buses at the cost of   around 10.9 million And we would also have  to find drivers Um Dr B and

032I have met with   uh Mr Bob Rosinski from the RTA Uh he shared  with us that we could in fact they could in   fact where they're capable of developing  um another limited service uh route for our students It's a good plan but it's  something that can't be achieved this year   It will take a year And then on top of that  those LS routes more than likely will not be   set up for our competitors charter schools and  parochial schools So then we'll have to contract   with another service provider uh Peterman or  uh First Student And we know how that went   uh when we were originally with First Student  uh we racked up fines Um and so uh having said   that I want to propose uh uh option one and  option two and maybe perhaps have a

033discussion   um right now uh with the school board uh if you  so choose But option one is to commit to a signed   contract with RTA for LS routes Again that'll be  a year away Um the rough estimate of that cost is   $3 million Um but we again would have to we  would incur other costs because we still have   to transport charter school students and parochial  students Uh option two is to increase our capacity   to transport DPS students charter school students  and parochial students Uh again that comes with a   cost We need the buses and we need the drivers  and therefore we need time to actually do this   Um now there have been some other discussions  about um having a limited um limited hours   passes by the RTA that they could that  students could utilize in

034the morning   um and then have like LS routes in the afternoon  that would that still hinges on whether or not   House Bill 96 passes if that passes they still  need a hub for students to transfer to get get to   school And so um I would suggest if House Bill  96 passes uh we we suspend uh transportation um for a year that would enable us to uh  work with the RTA and other vendors that   could provide transportation for charter  school students and parochial students All right Thank you Dr Jones You guys gave a  pause I figured you ready for the conversation   Before I open it up to the board I'm going to  ask Dr Lawrence to kind of weigh in on this one   And then I'm going to ask Mr Lacy since you were  you were

035there the last time that we started the   suspension of transportation and then Miss  Reiner and Miss Wick because you guys were   there when you started to bring it back if you  just had just kind of your perspectives on what   this would look like since it's happened here  before Go ahead Dr Lawrence Uh first I want to   say great job Dr Jones and your team Dr Jones  and I had a chance to huddle up earlier today   and I support his recommendation but I will just  add that we have some academic data that I sent   him the academic team We surveyed parents  as well uh a little over 200 about what the   consequences would be for no transportation  Some of the feedback we received was I'd have   to pull my kids out not sure how to get

036there  It' be financially a strain on the family So   definitely support the direction he's going in uh  but just adding some more data to it Um and then   um yeah and I know he and his team are  working hard to think about even other   options that may not be as drastic but  this is where we are now Thank you Mr Lacy Yeah I um we had we suspended service under  Superintendent Ward Um I mean I can share some   stories from the time I think um Superintendent  Ward recommended it um shortly after I think she   I believe if I remember correctly she was at she  was at Dunbar when when uh uh when the power went   out at Dunbar for some reason I'm not sure what  it was we didn't have the quality uh business   manager

037that we have today probably But um um she  said uh as soon she made the decision to to close   the school for the day and she said within 2 or 3  minutes every student was gone from that parking   lot where they'd been waiting Um um she um she  also I mean in the period after I'm not sure it   was a full year after she she claimed that that  attendance high school attendance actually had   improved um um not to say that that not bus  not not providing high school transportation   does improve would improve it It's probably just  it happened to be it she felt that it it it had   uh at the time it it it really had a ne negligible  effect on um on attendance So uh so that yeah so   that's my my history

038with suspension of of uh  of high school transportation Thank you Mr Lacy   You have said something that makes Dr Lawrence  want to say something else So Dr Lawrence uh   I was a high school principal then when she when  Superintendent Ward ended transportation at Thugan   Marshall High School and I believe uh the state  data records show our attendance hovered around   88% during the the the years that I was there So  I did not at that time see a precipitous decline   And you are correct Mr Lacy We did not have a  superstar business manager at that time Thank you   Mr R What's going on here um if I may can I ask a  follow-up question to board member Lacy what was   the parent and student reaction to suspension  of high school transportation at the time um I'm

039probably I'm probably not the best person  to ask that because I really don't get personally   get get uh a lot of reaction reaction before the  board I don't remember there being much of any at   all Okay Thank you All right Miss Wick and then  Mr Smith because you were also on the board when   you brought it back 2020 Thank you Thank you Dr  Jones for that information the presentation I   appreciate that I would like to see the attendance  data from that period of time when transportation   was changed Um when Jocelyn and I uh started  back on the board we just started introducing   then high school transportation again Uh and then  co happened and you know that's when we had our   LS bus lines and superintendent Lai was doing a  lot of work to try to

040facilitate all the needs   of the community Um I do think that different  times require different action clearly Um I'd   like to know I mean we can get a number about what  the you know if we have a $14 million budget for   transportation next year what percentage of that  is reflected in transporting our 9 through 12   students and then how we can redirect those funds  to say we have to go with option number one we   have to redirect those funds to um get those those  funds into the buildings so that we can help the   families that need the help to get to the schools  whether it's vans whether it's different areas of   avenues of transportation Um I do think that we  sit with a lot of power and a lot of resources   and it's incumbent upon

041us to use our power and  our resources wisely in these moments to do the   best we can by our students and our community Um I  know that our academic team and our superintendent   are doing such fantastic work around making our  education model more exciting that I do believe   that kids will get to school Uh so I'd like to see  the the attendance data from that time I'd like to   know what the savings is going to be if we do have  to make some choices around this stuff so that we   can determine we can make sure that our community  stakeholders our parents and our students know   that there will be resources available in those  buildings And then we'd have to understand from an   impact and with our legal team what that does with  our charter school

042requirements and not with our   charter school requirements We are not required to  provide high school transportation We are not So   uh and I know that's a a a difficult conversation  to have but I think that we should have   uh town halls around the conversation We can't  make these decisions just all willy-nilly Uh   we need to involve people Dr Lawrence has said  we've done you know 200 surveys Well you know we   have 5,000 kids and 5,000 families How can we do  this better and so I think some town halls around   discussions so that when we do have to make the  decisions that all stakeholders have been heard   So thank you Yeah I appreciate that We um the town  halls that we have had the listening sessions uh   were really really informative and there was a lot 

043of energy um in the room a lot of creative ideas   uh we were able to dispel some of the  misconceptions about what could be done   uh what can't be done and um I would say that the  community has a a a true interest in continuing   uh in having those discussions so that is  definitely and they do and not just our our   students and our our fa our our families but  also our larger community is interested too Um   so I think really being intentional about the  work and you know there lots of times we have   to reset this transportation has been a hot topic  for two years now Um and for us to continue to do   the same thing and expect different outcomes what  do they say that's the definition of insanity You   know it's time

044to do something different um if  we need to take a pause and come up with some   creative solutions around what we're doing with  our resources to do better then let's do that So   thank you and we'll have that uh I'll have that  attendance data soon have someone working on that   So I hear what we're saying around doing  different things changing this and that how   things worked how things we also saw that when we  did not provide high school transportation we had   chronic absenteeism rates of around 40% for every  high school outside of Ponets and Styver So we've   seen what this looks like This isn't a new thing  of let's go see what this looks like for a year   We saw that people weren't coming to school at  high rates like this is not a a

045new thing Let's   try something new And then it's on top of that  if we do not provide transportation these kids   still have to get to school some way and they're  all not getting dropped off So they're still all   going to be on the bus somehow And then they're  still going to be somewhere at a hub that now will   not have support from the district if we're not  providing these things So then there's no reason   to have SRO's at the hub because we're not paying  for to send students down to the hub but they'll   still end up at the hub and now we're saying to  heck with their safety that we talked about it was   so unsafe because they'll still be in the same  hub We saw this happen before Like I don't see   any benefit

046of saying let's just stop If we talk  about the safety piece the kids are still unsafe   and they're more unsafe without having SRO's down  there If we talk about the attendance we saw this   like that was literally what Dr Lai was going  after when she said "Let's get transportation   for our high school kids." We saw that Meale  Belmont Third Good like their their attendance was   not at a level And so then even when you look at  these global things it's it's it's it's easy for   us to look at it and say well our numbers didn't  fluctuate that much We had chronic absenteeism of   40% at every high school that was not the two high  schools Ponets and Styvers That was clearly there   at that time You had the same issues going on  downtown The problem

047is we do these things and we   then do them halfbaked where we're not putting all  the same things in place That's how we got here   We got here by going "Okay we're going to start  this with RTA Okay we're not going to do LS   routes." We wait we even saw what happened when we  waited a year When we waited a year RTA sold buses   changed people's jobs and that's why we never got  back to having real LS's So we even saw that part   So my thing is all the things we're talking about  doing we've seen what happens there Even with this   this House bill the pieces in there are that they  cannot be routed through a central downtown hub   We just saw downtown change everything for a  week within a few months and RTA stops

048were   changed routes were changed and we're sitting  here saying that we have nothing else to do but   throw our hands up and say "Let's not get our  kids through school somehow Let them figure it   out." When before we were finding passes for kids  to try to go to work try to do extracurricular And   now we're going to say let them figure it out on  their own To me that's not worth so saying "Okay   we can save some money We won't have to transport  charters because my biggest thing are the children   of Dayton public schools." We've seen that even  with everything else that goes on these kids are   on these RTAs This is a bigger conversation It's  a conversation around we see now that students in   certain spots aren't even picked up there Drivers  go by

049students drivers won't let students off in   certain places Like I said we just saw we had the  NATO conference down here and they put out a whole   thing of how things were rerouted The RTA flyer  was rerouted We've sat in conversations recently   where they're saying "Okay we can have these kind  of passes that would cut off at these times cut   back on it this time." Like it's it's not hard to  find the data because Dayton Public Schools was in   the news every other week about transportation  That was the biggest thing And so when we went   because we did not do it full-fledged The original  plan dealing with RTA was never done So we've   never really done this and seen it because we  didn't get full-fledged LS routes We pulled out   of the LS route contract

050before the routes were  all the way finished We didn't have specialized   passes We just gave kids passes Like we did not  actually do that And so instead of looking at   those things and then putting pressure on the RCA  because that is what the House bill is about It's   not saying we can't move our kids It's saying  they cannot transport them through that central   hub There's still the ability to find a separate  hub with the ability to do these passes that go   off at certain times of the day But for me I look  at it now and we're in postco We already have all   these other situations I just don't I don't see  the benefit Our kids aren't safer by doing it   Our academics aren't made better by doing it  It's like we're cutting off our

051nose despite   our face because we don't have other people to  help us So that's my thing about it Thank you   Miss Riner Thank you President Goodwine Um I kind  of want to piggyback um something that uh board   member Wick said briefly in that um you know this  has been going on for quite some time Um I'm in   year eight of my board service and transportation  issues were a conversation before I even decided   to run for the board Um this is actually a symptom  of a larger problem of mandates put on us by the   state and our inability to um to meet the needs  of all of our students Um I was in a meeting   last week with state legislators and um one of  them recognized um and I'm grateful for that the   fact that our

052inability to trans to transport  all the kids that we are legally obligated to   transport is impossible because of the mandates  by the state Um and this legislature would like   those things to change Um we are watching the  um Senate sub bill go through committee right   now for just for people's information Um the  amendment was in the House bill and now the bill   is in the Senate going through committee Um we  will be fortunate if the amendment is not in the   um final Senate version Um and I'm crossing my  fingers for that Um but you know there there   have been things that have worked better and um  obviously not being able to use RTA passes through   the hub would significantly hinder our ability  to get high school students to and from school   Um I wanted to

053put ask you some clarification  clarification questions Um Dr Jones Um the LS   routes that we had the discussion with RTA about  last week these are not the same LS routes that   we had previously right um can you uh explain a  little bit more what was explained or do do you   recall um what Bob Rosinski said that he could do  for LS routes if we were to resume our contract   with RTA for those so uh for the afternoon  service Yes And so there would be uh another hub   outside of downtown Dayton uh that the RTA would  utilize to get our students to and from school   Um the the only I guess we'd find ourselves in  a quagmire still because we have parochial and   charter school students that we'd have to move  Um and so uh if

054Bob could get that done for us we   would have to look at uh again partnering with um  another transportation service provider right uh   to accommodate our you know our other obligations  And if I recall correctly it was um transportation   through LS the RTA LS service but from school to  after school activities It wasn't from school to   home at the end of the day either So drastically  different from the previous LS service that we   did before That seemed to work pretty well right  um all things being said um and um this service   would not even be available in the 26 20 25 26  school year We would have to wait a whole year   for them to build up their staff and to buy the  buses Yes ma'am Um so it's an imperfect solution   um that would

055even take us another year to go down  there I'm I think the board should consider it   um as a real option Um I just wanted people to  know that it's not available this this next coming   um 2526 school year and it would be different  from the LS service that we had previously Um   and then the option two uh which you know the  estimated cost in year one would would be $16   million What about years 2 three four and five  i and this is also a year away because we can't   implement this in the 2526 school year Um it's  down the road I think this would be I think that   as of now I I would love to explore this option  as well too But I would like to know not just   year one cost but

056down the rhy down the line what  the cost would be Um so so after that initial go   you know what I'm trying to say Yes Yes ma'am  Yes ma'am I do uh in years two and beyond uh it   would be salaries and benefits of our drivers Uh  and then maintenance uh roughly 3 million uh for   salary benefits I'm sure that uh Huitt can help  out with that Um I would say somewhere close to   5 million total salary and benefits How many  do you think it would be 73 drivers 70 about   about 5 million I'm thinking about 5 million  because it was about three in terms of salaries   some benefits Think so Maybe an extra two Um then  of course with the cost of living uh expenses that   go up every year you know but the

057initial that in  year one it would be roughly 16 million because   of the buses After that we don't have to purchase  any more buses um outside of our typical you know   purchasing cycle Yep Okay Thank you Yes thank you  Dr Goodwin Uh thank you Hold on It's Dr Lawrence   next Uh Dr Jones you and I shared some information  this weekend around Cincinnati uh and their system   in Cincinnati They have their version of RTA  They have hubs all around the city and they   have services to those centralized hubs where  kids in 7th through 12th grade go to those hubs   and are picked up So their version of RTA service  they've developed a system for Cincinnati public   schools so they can ride transport 7 through 12  back and forth Correct and perhaps we uh partner   with uh

058the RTA and we take a trip you know down  to Cincinnati and figure out how they uh how they   achieved moving that volume of students around the  city All right Mr Walker Uh thanks Dr Jones So for   me I want to look at it on on different sides of  it as well Um yes House Bill 96 is a thing but   like looking at realistically what happens with  that House bill and the Senate passes amendment   it goes back to the House House passes the new  version and then with the governor even signing   may veto out certain line items I think for me  it's looking at more so here locally the impact   of like what non-transport of high school students  and things like that So when we look at um high   school students now every every student

059in DPS or  charter um is eligible for a bus pass or something   like that and have the option to go to the hub  When we take that away from like students and   things like that um I think I'm more so interested  in what does that say now to a parent on um do I   have $60 or $80 to afford a pass for my kid to  get to school we have a lot of our staff who   are living really in their car in a sense Um so  how do we look at like these as actual realistic   things that is being recommended for families to  take take under consideration and looking at if   a family has five high school students in their  household who they have to get to and from school   now it may be different

060schools some may go to  styver some may go to ponent and things like   that so this extra expense that family will take  on how will what will it what what what happens   with the $2.5 million ion dollar when the state  is saying on the other side that DPS you are over   your 30% in revenue um and we have to do away with  that So now what do we do with that 2.5 million i think we um we have to be creative You know I  don't think that the answer exists within Dayton   I think collectively um we can figure out an  alternative but it won't be um it won't be the   silver bullet if you will You know um a lot a lot  really does hinge on House Bill 96 you know Um if   it does

061not pass then we still work frantically to  engage in option one right in year two while also   providing our students with the RTA passes Now  on on that same piece um today is Thursday and   looking at these options and the amount of money  that is paid to RTA The city of Dayton yesterday   passed an amendment where RTA is giving them one  point I'm sorry $117,000 to provide offduty police   officers at the hub until December Has the city  said anything as far as revenue to the district   to support whatever initiative is to go into  effect uh no one has contacted me I'm not sure if   uh someone has contacted Dr Lawrence or uh Huitt  but uh I have not been contacted Okay So if we   were to ratify um the removal of high school  transportation for

062a year what does that say   about the overtime of staff that work the hub  with regards to safety and security will we do   away with that as well yes sir Okay So the hub  will be specifically city of Dame responsibility   for if you've come down there it's your job to  handle it Yes sir Okay I appreciate it Yes sir   Dr Bailey Yeah C couple of things One I'm I'm a  little confused Um and I'm I'm piggybacking off of   uh Karen Wick is I'd like to see the data  on um absentees as far as the students are   concerned because I've heard two different  stories up here one saying they didn't have   so much of a drop in students being absent and  then I'm hearing on the other side that there   was a drastic drop of students

063So I I would  love to see that The last meeting I was in   um and help me if I'm wrong Uh I know you were not  there so maybe you guys had another meeting after   this but RTA specifically said that they were  not going to change their routes for us Uh and   especially this coming year we talked about the  LS buses Um that was something that was totally   different Said that they didn't have the buses  to do that They didn't have the personnel to do   that We don't have the buses to do that We don't  have the personnel to do that for this upcoming   year Correct So I'm trying to understand if this  bill passes then our it seems to me that our hands   are totally tied in transporting our students and  trying to transport

064students that are not ours So   I'll I'll let you respond to that first Well that  that's my posture as well Okay Yeah Dr Bley if I   may At the second meeting what um was presented  to us was um the the state representative asked   RTA to not charge the district the $80 and take it  to what they charge regular adults Um the second   piece of that meeting was um RTA could not do the  LS services but what they would look to do is a   limited LS service in the afternoon where they're  sending three or four buses to each high school to   then transport students to a centralized  location and then those same buses will   then change to whatever route it is that student  needs to get on to then go to their home location   So when

065when they talked before they said that  they could do I think it was morning routes but   then not the evening routes So now he switched it  so now they can do the evening routes but not the   morning routes which still puts us in a a horrible  position um with our students So then do we I mean   if we're going to if we're able to transport them  which we're not then we would transport them in   the morning and in the afternoon But right now  I mean we it seems like everybody is throwing   all the ownership on DPS but we're transporting  charter schools students They have no buy into   this thing Um my feeling honestly is that if we  were to suspend for a year maybe some of these   charter schools would get a buy into this

066and  start helping us with transportation and figuring   out a way I did You have something before no sir  So um it's interesting because one of the charter   schools uh their superintendent was in this  meeting and he was raving about how they stopped   uh charter stopped uh uh using DPS to transport  their students So then I asked a question I said   well u he said they were doing first they went to  first student and everything got better I said oh   well great I said "So they're transporting your  high schoolers as well?" And he says "No." I said   "Well who transports your high schoolers?" "Well  DPS transports our high schoolers." So I I'm not   understanding why he was gloating about that Our  hands are tied And I know this is going to be a   hard decision to

067make because it's not going to  be favorable either way Um but it's going to be   a decision that we're going to have to make  Um I I just think right now at least try for   a year to see what happens if we suspend So and  then maybe you guys can come up with a solution   within that year with RTA to see where we are  because they were not I even asked if we could   uh I went by the West Hub and the East Hub which  is hardly used Westtown and uh and the other one   I went by both of those Uh when I asked RTA they  told us no they were not going to change their   routes and for our kids to be picked up there So  that's just where I'm at right now Um

068thank you   Thank you Appreciate all the comments I actually  think there's a fourth option too that we rarely   talk about because it's obviously a costly piece  there there is a actual reality that we could work   towards the actually go take this to the judicial  branch and just ignore the obligations that we   have to the charter schools and fully bust all of  our kids to do that though we will be sued 100% we   are going to be sued and that type of support like  as we talk about I understand the larger community   and all that but for us if we ever took any step  of boldness like that we need our community to   back us on this because again although anyone in  Dayton can elect any of the seven people up here   who are sit up

069here next everyone in Dayton  doesn't send their children to Dayton public   schools So that balance here and I think that was  a bold thing Um that was a brief discussion last   year to prioritize our students first and I know  our transportation team wants to transport our   babies from K through 12 in that piece of it And  like even when we think about that we don't know   if we will win that fight or not We have no idea  because it hasn't happened and it hasn't gotten to   the level where the judicial branch has weighed  a decision on if the law is just or not So that   is a that is also a a consideration as we talk  about all these things like yes whatever we do   it's going to be a hard decision because if the 

070bill passes and we continue with these things I   have no idea how it's going to be enforced but I  would rather not put children in a position to be   arrested because that is that is usually when you  break the law officer is involved in that piece   of it and I definitely don't want to subject  children to that because I don't know who will   be enforcing this but I do know because it's so  heavy right now at this moment of time something   is going to happen to ensure that the message is  sent out amongst these inner city schools to get   your children out these places or they will suffer  I also don't like the fact that these things don't   affect adults Every decision we're talking about  the enduser is a child And it's grown-ups way   beyond

071their adolescent years who are putting  children in very very uncomfortable positions   And I mean that's that's a hard pill to swallow  right there Um I think too the timeline that we're   talking about here like we'll know by our next  business our next review session because they   would be done with this Is that not correct Miss  Rhina um I don't know the day for the release of   the Senate bill It will be soon The whole process  won't be done but we will have an idea of whether   it's in the Senate bill Well we we'll know if it  made it through or not So even that piece of it   here I do believe and I' I've spoken to both of  you guys about the decision that you need from   us I imagine that timeline is sooner than

072later  as individuals will need to prepare on what that   means from here So the question I think for me  that is before this board is how bold are we ready   to be like on one hand we can transport all our  kids at at the peril of not doing the people who   are not our children But knowing with that we're  going to be sued because that's what people do and   you get that decision and then you finally get  a chance to take the legislator's piece to the   judicial branch and have it adjudicated I don't  know if it'll go well for us or not I have no   idea I know that there's a cost to that That cost  still takes away from stuff that we would invest   in Again this whole educational outcome of it We  have

073the option of taking a less resistant pass   here of just suspending it There is a cost to that  as well It's not necessarily as financial but it   is a social piece of it of individuals like this  would be a hu a huge ass not only on what we said   And I'm going echo board member Wick down there  Community members who are our partners as well   as those who have not been identified as partners  will need to help step up because the reality is   children still and these young adults still need  to get from their house to our institutions in a   way that is successful We can't do much about  it on our end because again as we know when   we take official action whatever we do for our  children we have to do for the

074charter kids So   that piece of it here that really calling on this  village mindset and this village to show up and   actually having some individuals that have some  stake in the game that are helping because they   say everything that should happen here and they  ask us what you could help with People need help   learning to put car pools together Individuals  need help learning to get 18 passenger vans out   and creating routes and just working as  a true community to fill a community need   That's a real piece right there And I think even  as we look at this option here our reality is as   a organization we're in a tight spot We don't have  many allies And anyone who who believes anything   differently there's not been one organization that  has stood up and stood for DPS

075in in a meaningful   way of what you're doing to that organization is  wrong You're charging them to do something that   you know they can never fulfill There's not one  entity out here that has made statements on our   behalf outside of the seven people who sit on  this board and the individuals who work in this   room So that is another burden to us that we're  fighting a battle alone right and we cannot win   in the immediate alone Probably could do something  over the long stretch but today we need support   We need support and not just a Facebook post not  just a written letter to the newspaper We need   real people to show up for us this entire time  and help us because there are real children who   will be impacted by whatever decision we make and 

076whether those are district children or external   children And yes my hope and my focus is more so  on our children but I am not illusionary to know   like all the children in the city of Dayton if  those children also can't get to school I'm going   to echo Dr Bailey I wish that the other schools  would step up to the table and bring resources to   lighten the load here but that hasn't happened  here And if those children aren't in school as   well those children are most likely to be as  what board member Smith stated not here not   there not wherever they're supposed to be Which  means they'll be either at home or they'll be   somewhere in our city street in our community And  chances are if you're in the community and your   school age and you're

077not at school on those hours  you're not doing anything good or productive And   that doesn't help us as a city bro Because again  as board member Wick said our larger our duty to   our larger community is a real duty and that's  a thing there But we still need them But again   a relationship can't work if two places or two  entities aren't trying to make it better I agree   So I I echo a thing I echo the information that I  heard I've seen all your hands go up but I'm going   to call on you But I echo what my counterparts  our colleagues have stated here that I do think   we have some real decisions I I truly believe and  hope that no matter what we do because it's going   to be a hard thing and it's

078going to be something  that changes what happens over the next year that   the village shows up in a way that we haven't  seen the village in the last year And whether it   is that we ultimately suspend transportation for a  year if it's that we take another step and we just   focus on just our students if we do nothing and  continue on the path we're on right now that again   the village is still needed because again every  day something is happening to our young adults in   the city of Dean I saw Dr Bailey then I saw board  member Riner then I saw Mr Smith in that order Did   you represent that okay Yeah I I was just going  to uh comment on something that uh Will said uh   about how they came in for NATO and

079they changed  all the routes and things like that Uh to me that   showed me something that you know you've got the  political people uh the governors and all of them   who want to bring that in and they would change  the routes for them but they are not willing to   change the routes for our kids Um they had fences  up they had roads blocked off Um I know for a fact   that some of the business owners owners downtown  lost a lot of money had to shut down Um but as   long as those that are as I would say in power  are asking for that to happen then they will break   their necks to make sure that it happens There's  a lot of overtime with police and everything   else that they did Again we are on an

080island by  ourselves and I piggy back off of what Dr Goodwin   says there There's no one that has come to say  "Hey let us help you." and you know so our hands   are really really tied So thank you board member  Thank you I just want to point out to the public   um if we were to not transport non-public students  it would not just be getting sued It would be   massive massive fines So on top of the the very  real situation what it would be it's it's it would   be a significant amount That's all Board member  Smith Yes ma'am Um something was said that stuck   out and it said we have to be creative and that's  why I feel that if we were to take the stance of   not providing high school transportation that's  the total

081opposite end of being creative Like   it's it's like saying we don't even want to try is  what we would be really saying to our king We're   saying we're on an island by ourselves DPS is  doing this alone And so then we'd be telling our   students not only are we out here alone as DPS but  now you're alone You and your parents are alone   Y'all go figure this out because this is where  we were before And this is where we were And we   kept seeing a drop in attendance We saw drops in  enrollment because then we saw other spaces We're   in a space where we have to think of the totality  It's not a transportation thing on its own because   we are dealing with if I'm at a charter school I'm  hand selecting the type of

082children and families   I'm going to have moving forward So if I'm at  a charter school from K through 8 where if a   parent doesn't come to these events if they're  not involved in X Y and Z their student cannot   go there So by the time it gets to a high school  level we're not hurting the charter high schools   as much as we'd be hurting our high schools  because the charter high schools they have people   coming to pick them up The the drop off and pickup  line at some of our charters is a lot longer than   some of the dropup and parent pickup lines in  our schools It's not the same So we're basically   would be saying "Y'all go figure this out because  our hands are tied." wherein in reality there's a   lot we can do

083We can talk to our staff and there's  there's there's been proposals from over the years   of even our internal transportation to say "Hey  this is how we could do things differently." Like   we're not looking at we looked at this whole  totality as if we've had the same staff here   for years Our transportation team had been for  years saying this is how we can do these things   At the time our leadership in some of these  roles weren't allowing them to bring these things   forward So I don't think our hands are completely  tied I think our imagination has been tied and our   ability to get out here because I I get it If  things are hard and we want the the village to   pick up I know they're not We talk about these  things We have people

084telling us we don't want   kids downtown but all of a sudden there's a  private school opening in the arcade We have   people saying they believe in public schools but  yet everybody lined up to go to a city commission   meeting to talk about how great the greater Dayton  school was Like I'm not I'm not sitting here   delusional enough to think that people are going  to step up and help out Dayton public schools when   history and past behaviors has shown us that this  community will step up to do everything against   public education That's why we're the charter hub  of everything Businesses started charter schools   banks started charter schools This hasn't been  some happen stance movement The same people that   we're going around saying we need help from are  the people that fund our our competitors Really   this

085is how it's happened Like this is not some  some thing that we can sit back and not act like   we'd be taking a drastic step to say you guys go  We've been here before Like we've literally been   here before and we watched our community go off  at board meeting after board meeting after board   meeting about transportation We watched people  go off over and over to the point where when we   first started LS busing again it wasn't LS That's  the other piece LS busing has never been the same   LS busing So when we get out and we talk about it  in the news it's not the same And that's why other   people are able to say "Hey this won't be the same  as before." It's never been the same as before   The LS buses that we

086got coming back in 2018 were  dropping people off over a half a mile to a mile   away from some of these schools That was not  LS busing The LS busing we had previously was   the same as an RTA route It's just non students  couldn't get on those buses So it's never been   the same If we're going to have this discussion  we have to be armed with the real information that   has gone on And right now we're not We're walking  in and letting people tell us what they cannot do   when we've seen what they can do We've seen what  the pressures can do The conversations with RTA   from three years ago are not the conversations  now You've said RTA said that they can work on   specialty passes That was not the conversation  three years ago The

087conversation three years ago   was get them off of our buses Matter of fact we'll  move these bus stops further away so they can And   what really changed that was these seven people  and our staff going into these meetings and saying   "No we demand you do better." That's how we even  got to the conversation where there's even talks   about what to do differently This didn't happen  before And so I think that's that part when we   talk about what is even LS look like The LS we  got in 2018 was not the same Even that school   year it started off one way and it changed in the  middle of the year where bus passes got switched   going into that winter break and that was two  years before I even got on the board Like this   is a

088thing that unless we're going in and saying  what does this look like we're not going to be   able to change it But to my my belief is if we  were to just go back and say we're not going to   do this it it frees up everybody else who does not  deal with us because it frees them up to say "Okay   they're not having it." What's to say we need to  get into a conversation with you guys next year   because that's what's happened before We went  away for just one year and in that one year RTA   said "Guess what we're selling these buses We're  we're getting rid of these people." Like it's so   I just don't get where to me that's a solution  that helps anything because at the end of the day   these students will

089still be downtown Yeah Like  no one's about to go and arrest these students   at the edge of downtown and say you can no longer  ride this bus right here Like they're still going   to be down there And we're saying that we're not  going to have staff down there to keep them safe   So basically we're saying figure out your own  way to get to school and if you do have to get   to the hub we don't have anybody down here to  help you So for me I just don't get it Doesn't   make sense to tell our kids that they got to  figure out their own way to school Any other   board members go ahead Mr L Okay this is from  the Ohio Department of Education's website The   chronic absentee rates for Dayton public schools  Now this

090is this is districtwide That's just   the easiest number to get right now In 201617 we  were at 30.1% chronic absentee In 2017 18 we were 30.7% Okay I mean I I don't  know exact we probably went   off of we probably started busing  again in 2018 2019 it went up to 34.1% Um there had that's districtwide and I'm  sure there were other factors Then you get into   COVID so I don't even have have any rates for then  20 2122 it was 30.4% 4% Just in the last two years   though it did drop to uh in 22 23 it was 27% and  23 24 it was 25% So yeah the well we had a a we   had new administration at that time Thank you Mr  Lacy Yeah and and and we're also um and thank you   for

091that data set um the data set that I'm so  I am under the impression or understanding that   uh Kurt Stannic Dr Stannic out also proposed  or cancelled transportation in 2009 maybe No   it was Lorie Ward who succeeded So it was that  transition when it was a transition It was a while   after she succeeded him though 2012 Gotcha From  Lorie Ward to Li out Gotcha So can I can I ask   um if transportation well Dr Jones you and your  team could get with the truency department and   just see like what happened over those years and  what's the trend now with regards to students   getting to school late with RTA to where if you  do away with it what they may have already been   experiencing because what I don't want is now  we're flooding juvenile court with

092cases around   parents and things like that as well Now we have  a smaller truency department than we have So then   we would look to add more staff there if we're  going to do something like this for a high school   Right And let me just ask the timeline of when a  decision is needed Dr This is actually for both of   you guys because this is like a joint thing here  When do you need us well when will you present us   with a recommendation that you want us to go  forward with and you need us to make that so   you can communicate these out to our families  so I would I would say after we have um a more   um a more rigid um ruling um about House Bill 96  and that will be I believe the

0931st of July Okay 1   to the middle of July The same with that Dr Long  Yep So we are going to be able to communicate to   our families in July of what we're doing cuz  again I don't want to I don't want to get to   August and telling people that we made a switch  I think that is far And the sooner we can do this   the better So okay Yes ma'am Yeah We'll have  the uh I have the attendance team reach out   to you ASAP to I sent out a message already  I talked to him earlier my man This morning   All right Thank you I appreciate Dr Ben Just  just quickly following up um and this is to   um board member Smith and everybody though we are  thinking outside of the box Um we are

094talking to   RTA found out the same thing about the outside  hubs They don't have a full service going to   the outside hubs Um talking to them about other  alternatives talking about other alternatives as   far as transportation goes looking at that Um one  of our transportation providers that we use for   um individual transportation service or more  individualized transportation services has charged   us almost a million dollars a year for 81 students  And so we are looking at all of the options and   the alternatives and being using our imaginations  and trying to work as a team to figure out how we   um look at the services that we provide looking  at the routes that we provide and the tiers So   if there are other suggestions outside of the some  of the things we've talked about we certainly want  

095to hear them so that we can investigate those  things as we're looking through these things   Thank you Dr been saying And I will say that is  not a shared opinion that you guys aren't doing   those things cuz you guys talk a lot I didn't say  we weren't doing those things I'm saying just let   them know based on what you said I do believe that  you guys clear that up I said that that idea would   be the end result of not doing that Yes that  would be cuz I'm sitting here looking at people   from our transportation Am I am I incorrect that  you guys have been talking about how we could do   this for at least three years okay then please I  I would not let that be a representation of what   I am thinking and

096I am not thinking that  we are not being that I said this thought   that we could not and that our hands are tied  would be though because I have been around and   they have been trying to talk about this for at  least three to four years at least and so if we   have not gone through and exhausted all of that  then yes we are not doing everything we can All right There are any other comments all  right Thank you As before we move on I   would like to do a motion to reconsider from  last week's meeting for item A7 and item A13 There's no Is there a second last meeting Last  meeting Second Thank you Not concurrent Last   meeting All right Moved and second Are there  any questions on the motion now one second Yes

097On A13 according to board policy BDDE it  would have to be that that was the prevailing vote   There was not a prevailing vote due to not lack a  majority The prevailing vote was that it failed So   So we'll move forward Maybe we vote on the motion  You cannot move forward with voting on the A13   because you were not the A7 and the 14 Go back You  cannot move forward on Yeah 13 It It is a person   who was reassigned and a person who submitted a  resignation You cannot move forward again on that   item A13 because you did not have the prevailing  vote for that There was no prevailing vote It was   a 3-2 vote Mr Walker the prevailing vote was that  the notes won and therefore according to policy   because it didn't hit four Point

098again point of  information What is our board policy say on BDDE   the prevailing vote was that it did not pass So  those members who voted in the negative have the   prevailing vote So we are not bringing that back  as far as a motion Madam treasur you cannot vote   on A13 trying to figure out which president You  cannot call a vote on an item that is not up for a   vote Dr Batt if you do you will be in court Where  we're voting on the reconsideration of A7 and A13 It's on last meeting Oh okay Sorry I wasn't But  they're on this current meeting for something too Okay Yeah Bas Dr Bailey for it Is A13 from this  a13 is from the last meeting A individual   that resigned but the vote did not pass  there with

099the members that were present She's on the main floor Oh yes or no yes Dr Bailey Yes Mr Lacy Yes Mr Smith I'm trying well if I does this vote will we  exactly speak on what we're trying to change   this vote to or what we're doing because  if not then I would much rather love to   speak about them executive sessions for the  vote right here I shall abstain because I   am unclear about what we're trying  to do Okay What is your vote abain i'm going to say yes but I  would like to confer with legal   um before the vote the the reconsideration  I will say yes to this but I would like to   confer with legal before going further just so  there's no misunderstanding among board members Mr Walen no M Yes And I would

100like to confirm  with legal that you know we're in compliance So   yes Okay Five yeses one abstain one no And  for you both legal has given direction on   this Legal has not step out and calls if you  like to So but we can move forward And the   reconsideration is that is accepting one was  transferred to a department and one did not   pass or fail due to four not the majority not  voting either way So they are on the current   agenda today One is being reinstated because  they have have completed what they need and   the second one is on there as a resignation  The same point of information on A10 Did   they sign a contract for the position  that they were approved for last week i I don't believe they did sign the contract  Was A10

101a non-renewal initially and then was   up for resignation instead no A10 was  a license issue old And last week A10   was accepted a position that was not posted  before because a person is currently in it   And this board voted to accept that person  without posting that position initially Yes Got it Appreciate it And so the one that's on here day three So we had two  people two lens issues One was offered a job the   other one wasn't That just doesn't sit right with  me if we're going "All right we're picking and   choosing who we're going to try to keep." Because  that's what we're saying And then we're saying   "Okay we did not have enough votes to force this  last week so we're going to redo it this week."   Because one is a friend of a

102board member the  other one isn't But my issue is I just I just want   board me I just want to say we Uh Dr Jones and  I both did um talk to this person just recently   This didn't happen before So this other person  had a position that was offered before and at   the same time this other person hadn't been talked  to in that way And then also I would love to go to   executive session because I know this person did  to speak to someone else about a separate position   And so my concern is that we'd be messing up that  process by taking a vote on here So I would like   to vote on that one after speaking in executive  session so I can speak with Dr Jones Thank you All right Where we at so

103I'm actually going to  jump to eight to go to exact so we can answer   any questions So we can just come up and finish  this piece up here Pursuant to section 121.22G2   of the Ohio Revised Code I move that this board  go into executive session The meeting is being   held to consider the appointment employment or  dismissal of a public employee Is there a second   second Moved a second Any questions seeing  none may we have a vote president Goodwin   yes Dr Bailey yes Mr Lacy yes Mr Smith yes Miss  Reard yes Mr Walker yes Miss Wick yes Seven yeses We hear you so much We hear your commitment to  learning and we're here to extend the challenge   That's why we're asking every student family and  staff member to be present and be engaged When   we show

104up we build a foundation here  And when we show up we build a future   I'm here today I'm here today I'm here  today I'm here today We are here today   We believe in the power of showing  up So we're here today Are you are you signing right next to them  db right here next to them Hey   everybody understand that get to work  Let's get to work Hey Hey Get a break   Hey hard work on three Hard work  for me Hard work on three 1 2 3 Heat Hey Heat All right Hey get out of here Let's get out of here So today we're having an all city arts festival  and we have lots of music today We have combined   all of our schools together to make music  performances all day today We have choirs   we

105have bands we have orchestras and we're all  here to celebrate music in Dayton public schools A lot of these students uh come from schools  where maybe their ensemble their band or their   choir is really really small And so it's  scary to come out and perform in front of   people anyway and especially when you're used to  just a little small group in your classroom But   they've been doing a great job I think it's  a great experience for them because we all   know as adults that we have to go and do some  things that maybe aren't in our comfort zones   but with this group of people their peers  they feel a little bit safer And hopefully   after this experience it'll kind of feed a  fire and they'll want to do it more and more Really music can

106tap into that creativity  that a lot of kids just naturally have but   seems to dissipate often as they get older  So we're tapping into that creativity giving   them that self-expression So for a lot of our  kids this is their first opportunity to get up   in front of people especially in a venue  this big seeing that big smiles in their   faces especially at the end when they're coming  off the stage excitement and you know this is a   good opportunity for them to perform and show  off for their families their teachers their   uh classmates and the greater Dayton  community I think Dayton Public Schools   has a huge amount of talent in our district  and we're happy to be here showing that off today For Black History Month we're talking to  DPS principles to talk about how their

107school   represents the people they're named after This  episode we have Charity Adams Welcome Hi Hello   Can you tell me a little bit about yourself hi  my name is Carla Goens and as you know I'm the   principal at Charity Adams Early Academy for Girls  I have been in the district for 30 years and the   principal at Charity for seven This is my seventh  year at Charity Adams Who was Charity Adams and   why was she important charity Adams was the first  African-American female to lead her battalion in   World War II That was very rare at that time So  she was a phenomenal leader What do students learn   about Charity Adams in your building um so my  students learned that Charity One as I stated was   a leader She fought for um equal rights and she  was just

108a trailblazer So students learn how to   lead how to um empower themselves how to speak up  for what is wrong And um we are strong believers   in sisterhoods at Charity As a principal how do  you try to carry on Charity's legacy so um we try   to carry on charity's legacy um one by empowering  the our young ladies cultivating their unique   potential having making sure that they know they  have a voice and um to speak up when they see that   things are not right and they um to be activists  How do you celebrate Charity Adams during Black   History Month after your building so um this  year with the movie Tyler Prairie created coming   out we're celebrating her by doing a tribute a  special tribute to Charity Adams So it's going   to be really awesome Um so

109the young ladies will  do a skit from the movie So we're really excited   It'll be um next Friday February 28th Watch the  students attend Charity Adams Early Girls Academy   Students should attend Charity Adams Early Academy  for Girls because it's a phenomenal school Um it's   an all girls school And again as I stated we're  about sisterhood empowerment and just creating   that environment where our young ladies are  thinking about careers that haven't existed yet So   we're pushing them to be leaders So it's just an  exciting and very powerful experience just being   at an all girls school What makes your school is  special um my school is special one because it's   a single gender all girls school and it's the  only one in the area in the state as a primary   middle school all girls school And then

110also um  when you enter our school it's just a very warm   welcoming environment It's a community and it's  just it's a great it's a great place to be and work Hi everyone Today I'm going to talk to you  about bus safety Every day thousands of day and   public school students ride the bus to and from  school and it's important to know how to stay safe   First things first make sure to get to your  bus stop at least 10 minutes early And while   you're waiting stand in a safe spot away from  the road Once the bus arrives go straight to   your seat so the bus can start moving again  And remember while you're on the bus stay   seated and keep the aisles and exits clear Just  like in a classroom listen to the driver and   follow

111their instructions This includes no  foul language no sticking your arms or head   out the windows and no eating or drinking on  the bus Lastly make sure you only get off the   bus at your assigned stop and be sure to walk  home safely Let's all work together to follow   these rules and keep our bus ride safe for  everyone Thanks for listening and stay safe DPS Hi I'm Katie Philpot preschool intervention  specialist at Rosa Parks Early Learning Center My   position is to educate all preschoolers who come  through our doors into our classroom and service   students on an IEP individualized education plan  And it's a way that all students can access the   curriculum and education The kids are vibrant and  excited every day to come to school and they're   learning literally how to school and that's so  important

112DPS has lots of opportunities for growth   They give you ample professional development hours  which you need for your degree to continue on   teaching It's a great place where you're going  to meet all kinds of people You're gonna meet   every kind of student there is And there's going  to be challenges for sure But when you handle   those challenges and overcome them you'll feel so  proud of yourself I enjoy the people I work with   They are some of the best human beings you will  find on this planet Um I enjoy how there is a   preschool program for families who want access to  that That's very important to the K12 curriculum   It's a great place to be And if you look around  the buildings you will see active learning You   will see bulletin boards with the learning on

113it  So you know that there are great things happening   in the classrooms Every child who enters our  classroom feels that their learning is important   and that they are valued and they are important  So being the one to do that is like a warm fuzzy hug This is our first ever DPS Cares health  and wellness fair We have vendors from a lot   of local agencies here This event offers  outreach for our families We are trying   to hook them up with different services in  our community We wanted to make sure parents   got messages about wellness So we were able to  bring our guest speakers in We wanted to make   sure that they had access to some of the great  things like the yoga and chair massages And we   definitely want to feed everyone when they come  out

114We just want to show them how much Dayton   public loves them loves their children and cares  about them and their health and their welfare I think they're going to take home that  it is okay to take care of yourself and   we have to take care of ourselves  before we can take care of others   Ways that they can take care of themselves  and ways that they can take care of their families Everyone's saying how wonderful this  has been The kids are having a ball Their faces   are painted They have great prizes They're getting  lots of good information We had massage therapists   come in I've had multiple people say "I got  a chair massage and I feel so good right now First off Mr Mr Bournehorse Mr Bournehorse we  appreciate you You know all the work that

115you   have done I had the pleasure of working with you  for five years You have been consistent You know   um the the the small jokes that you make  that I got to listen to and see well was   that a joke Mr Warren Horse But again the  compliments that was given you got to see   our our culture change Um you were very  uplifting in letting my staff and I know   that you know Meadell is in good hands So  again we wish you the best of luck in what   you're about to do next cuz again I know you  still young so you still got a lot a lot of   life to live So we are looking forward to you  know hearing great things with your traveling   So thank you again and the Lions you will always  have

116always have a um place here at the Lion's Den A special thank you to Tim Dunaway for the  fabulous job he did here at International School   You're one of a kind and you've been  amazing to have you here working with us Uh I wanted to say a special congratulations to  our three retiring custodians Pat Iikin Lab from   Valerie uh Miss E Elvina McNair from Westwood  and Joyce Parks from Fairview We are so going   to miss you but are so excited you get to have  another opportunity uh to do whatever you want   to do Uh we're going to miss you We're proud  of you and thanks for all you've done for us Miss Love your impact on Ruskin School was  absolutely profound The joy you brought into   this building uh was infectious and noticed  by everybody

117every day that you were here   the legacy of love that you have left here  at Ruskin will be remembered by students and   teachers Anybody who ever came to Ruskin uh for  years and years to come Thank you Happy retirement Monica Nas aka Catwoman aka Snoop aka GG2 Tutu  It's a bunch of just names that we we give Mrs   Nas Tinker Bell you know going to Miss Tinker Bell  walking around the classroom walking around the   hallway doing her little pity duts and then she'll  start dancing when you know she's tired and she   ready to go Okay but this been my partner Um Miss  Liz and I have been working with each other for 4   years closely You know day in day out sometimes  We got so many good stories We got laughs We've   cried It has

118been a journey I I can't say enough  about Mrs Nas I I'll be taking up so much time   to talk about um in the depth of who Mrs Nas is  You know we we've been in the trenches fighting   in wars you know here not with each other And  that's been the be that's been the biggest   blessing We didn't fight against each other but  we we grew we grew together been through things   and we have been able to see the transformation  of Meale in the manner that we wanted And we're   going to continue to keep pushing cuz I know  you're retiring but I got to keep you around   somehow So we just going to say bye for now but  not for long So congratulations to all of the   mighty Lions that will always be accepted here 

119will always be a part of the Lion family here   at the Lion's Den Can't do it without you and  I'm not supposed to So thank you all I love you Karen Schula uh who I was first introduced to her  as my own personal French teacher when I was in   high school here at Meadowdale was Miss Shahada  So it also was a pleasure not only to just be   in your classroom you know many years ago we're  not gonna say how many years ago but many years   ago but now to come back to the Lion's Den as a  as your administrator and to also you know work   with you and um offer the my expertise and  tips and also listen to continue to listen   to the stories that you bring um and kind of  took me back

120to when I was you know um in high   school and I would hear your stories and hear  you you know speak in French And I think it's   um vom Um I don't know what that bono Anybody  know French in here so I wish you the best of   luck as well Mrs Mr Silla It has been a pleasure  and I hope that you and your daughter continue to   keep traveling and enjoying life You have been you  have been awesome you know over your long tenure   in the classroom Can't thank you enough All your  artwork I'm going to remember you know walk into   the classroom the drawings that you inspire  kids to do So again thank you And bon voyage to Eric Vonberg Thank you Congratulations  I know you've had um so many students that   you've made

121a difference in their  lives Have a wonderful retirement Congratulations and thank you Dana  darling You've had an amazing teaching   career Additionally you have hired hundreds  of teachers for the district It doesn't stop   with hiring You have supported teachers and  administrators in renewing their license and   solving other issues Your hard work  for the HR department will continue   to influence the district for decades  to come Congratulations and enjoy your retirement Mrs Hickey I don't even know where  to begin thanking you for your professionalism   dedication and commitment to our students Your  impact on the students at Ruskin has been profound   Your leadership has been a model  of what we do here at Ruskin You   know you are always a lifetime Ram Please  don't be a stranger Come back and visit Good evening retirees and guests What  a wonderful

122evening We're glad you guys   could all gather here together We are happy  to celebrate this milestone in your lives The   impact you had on all the students that you've  interacted with in Dayton public schools has   been profound and your names will be remembered  forever by the students that you worked with   We are proud to have served with you and worked  with you and wish you all the best in your future   endeavors Wanted to say congratulations to all  of the retirees especially those in operations   this year Thank you for all of your hard work  dedication to Dayton Public Schools Wishing   you nothing but success in whatever you decide to  do after that Congratulations to all the retirees   Thank you so much for all you've done to help the  students of Dayton public schools It really makes  

123a difference Congratulations to all the Dayton  Public Schools retirees for all the hard work that   you have done over the years We appreciate you Um  we know it's been challenging What we do is ever   changing but at the same time is very rewarding  So congratulations to you We wish you the best of   luck as you continue on with your life and we hope  that you do a lot of traveling and enjoying it   Thank you The message I have for them is I'm going  to miss you uh this has been a journey for you I   don't know exactly how many years it's been but if  you've been with Dayton public schools and you're   retiring I am wishing you well and I want you to  come back and volunteer I want you to wish us well   on

124social media and I want you to stay connected  to the district cuz you're always going to be part   of the family I hope that you took away that you  were so valuable in the lives of children Whatever   your job was you were valuable to children and  to this operation that we know as Dayton public   schools and to the community Children are our  most prized assets So you were part of building   those children who would then become productive  adults Uh that's I want you to know your work   matter So your impact as an employee if you  were a teacher of course people always think   teachers and teachers you are important Uh but if  you're a custodian you are amazing at making sure   kids had the environment that was clean If you  were a transportation specialist or

125bus driver   you were amazing at making sure they got the  extracurricular activities and got to school   and got home If you were the secretary you were  so important to our five C's customer service You   were the first voice first face they saw when they  walked in Whatever your role was from custodian to   secretary to transportation to pair professional  to operations who make sure that things are   working inside the building Uh all of those  roles are super important And of course being   a former principal um if you're an administrator  or principal your role is important as well Listen   this is a really important date I want you to know  that I'm close to this too This is year 30 So sure   enough at some point uh I'll be on the other  side and saying my goodbyes

126to D public schools I'm here today I'm here today I'm here today  I'm here today I'm here today Are you are you   are you at DPS attendance is important That's  why we're challenging all schools to increase   and improve their daily attendance So I  ask again we're here today Are you Are you Hello my name is Molly and this this  school is called V Monasury School and   and the show that you are watching is called  Ask a Kindergarten Accent the Kindergartener Okay So what's your name what's your name miriam What's your name  dot Dton Yes So what's your favorite animal   lion What's your favorite um animal Miam i  like elephants What's your favorite animal   a lion What's your What's your  favorite cartoon a shot car Yes All right let's move on What's your favorite  costume um

127Super Kitties Hey Super Kitties   Super Kitties I like that That's rude What's  your favorite spiderman All right What's your   favorite comic book boy what's your favorite comic  book spiderman What's your favorite comic book   daddy show Okay Comic book I got one All right  What's your favorite comic book i don't have one   What's your favorite comic book i have And that's  perfectly fine M I have That's perfectly fine I   have a dinosaur Dinosaur I got a copy book I don't  like dinosaurs Raise your hand I know how What's   your favorite book if you don't have a comic book  a comic book No it's a book like those Not a comic   book A book Okay A Spider-Man one What's your  favorite book are you scared no No You're scared   Is that the one that's right there no 

128that's that one right there with the   bunny and the bear Oh that's my favorite  That's my favorite Okay I must go outside   everybody So let's let's move on What's  your favorite book uh dinosaur Why does   it always have to be dinosaurs because I  like dinosaurs What's your favorite food no I'm first No you're not I can't  think who's who's first I know you   ain't about to talk back to me  lady Oh I will call you old man   if you don't stop calling me old  lady Did you just call me old man so okay let's move on What's your favorite movie um Spider-Man What's your favorite movie  dinosaur Why do I always got dinosaurs   movie wait there's nothing because dinosaurs  That's a cartoon Because I like dinosaurs   Dinosaurs is not a movie Yes they No it 

129isn't Let's move I'm running downstairs Thanks for watching as in kindergarten Make sure you subscribe We hear you so much We hear your commitment to  learning and we're here to extend the challenge   That's why we're asking every student family and  staff member to be present and be engaged When   we show up we build a foundation here  And when we show up we build a future   I'm here today I'm here today I'm here  today I'm here today We are here today   We believe in the power of showing up  So we're here today Are you are you here is right next to them DB right here next  to them Hey everybody understand that let's get   to work Let's get to work Hey get a break Hey hard  work on three Hard work for me I work on

130three 1 2 three Heat Heat N Heat Heat All right Hey get out of  here Let's get out of here So today we're having an all city arts festival  and we have lots of music today We have combined   all of our schools together to make music  performances all day today We have choirs   we have bands we have orchestras and we're all  here to celebrate music in Dayton public schools A lot of these students uh come from schools  where maybe their ensemble their band or their   choir is really really small And so it's  scary to come out and perform in front of   people anyway And especially when you're used to  just a little small group in your classroom but   they've been doing a great job I think it's  a great experience for them because we all  

131know as adults that we have to go and do some  things that maybe aren't in our comfort zones   but with this group of people their peers  they feel a little bit safer And hopefully   after this experience it'll kind of feed a  fire and they'll want to do it more and more Really music can tap into that creativity  that a lot of kids just naturally have but   seems to dissipate often as they get older  So we're tapping into that creativity giving   them that self-expression So for a lot of our  kids this is their first opportunity to get up   in front of people especially in a venue  this big seeing that big smiles in their   faces especially at the end when they're  coming off the stage excitement and you   know this is a good opportunity for them 

132to perform and show off for their families   their teachers their uh classmates and greater  Dayton community I think Dayton Public Schools   has a huge amount of talent in our district  and we're happy to be here showing that off today Hi everyone Today I'm going to talk to you  about bus safety Every day thousands of day and   public school students ride the bus to and from  school and it's important to know how to stay safe   First things first make sure to get to your  bus stop at least 10 minutes early And while   you're waiting stand in a safe spot away from  the road Once the bus arrives go straight to   your seat so the bus can start moving again  And remember while you're on the bus stay   seated and keep the aisles and exits clear Just 

133like in a classroom listen to the driver and   follow their instructions This includes no  foul language no sticking your arms or head   out the windows and no eating or drinking on  the bus Lastly make sure you only get off the   bus at your assigned stop and be sure to walk  home safely Let's all work together to follow   these rules and keep our bus ride safe for  everyone Thanks for listening and stay safe DPS Hi I'm Katie Philpot preschool intervention  specialist at Rosa Parks Early Learning Center My   position is to educate all preschoolers who come  through our doors into our classroom and service   students on an IEP individualized education plan  And it's a way that all students can access the   curriculum and education The kids are vibrant and  excited every day to come to school and

134they're   learning literally how to school and that's so  important DPS has lots of opportunities for growth   They give you ample professional development  hours which you need for your degree to continue   on teaching It's a great place where you're going  to meet all kinds of people You're going to meet   every kind of student there is And there's going  to be challenges for sure But when you handle   those challenges and overcome them you'll feel so  proud of yourself I enjoy the people I work with   They are some of the best human beings you will  find on this planet Um I enjoy how there is a   preschool program for families who want access to  that That's very important to the K12 curriculum   It's a great place to be And if you look around  the buildings you will see

135active learning You   will see bulletin boards with the learning on it  So you know that there are great things happening   in the classrooms Every child who enters our  classroom feels that their learning is important   and that they are valued and they are important  So being the one to do that is like a warm fuzzy hug Let's see No she couldn't have  because we talked about it in there Can I make a You got to be kidding me Who's this he went to   school with you Sean J What  about me that's crazy Crazy Where'd you get that from  where'd you get that from brother and sister Let the record show that the board of  education of Dayton City School has just   completed executive session during  which is considered the appointment   or dismissal of a public employee

136I  move that we exit executive session Second move is second Any questions seeing  none may we have a vote president Goodwin   Yes Brother and sister Dr Bailey Dr Bailey  Uh yes Mr Lacy Yes Mr Smith Yes Miss Rhinard   Yes Mr Walker Yes Miss Wick Yes Seven  yeses Oh man All right We move forward   with the motion to reconsider And these  are on the item items of last week even   though we'll have to make a change on the  actual motion to one of the individuals And this is reconsidering the actions taken  or not act taken on what I say A7 813 from   last week That's correct All right This is the  approval to to reconsider them Yes Okay We've   already voted We've already voted for that So  this is redoing the vote Yeah Redoing the vote  

137redu Okay Okay Yes Okay It says right  here Yes I got it I got it I got it Yes Okay President Goodwin Yes Dr Bailey Yes Mr Lacy  Yes Mr Smith Which one we vote on both of them   Make the Can I make Yeah we're voting on both of  them knowing that the other one has to be changed   in a new motion Okay It's just a reconsidering  from different position like undoing the vote   But we already did that Yeah we've already did  that We already did that No we did a motion to   reconsider Now we're redoing the vote But so to  be redoing the vote Hold on Are we doing Yeah you   we've already So last week's action will be voting  on what was there before So now we're just I need   to change that

138Now we're doing superintendent  items right now I have to change my uh vote So point of information Point of information I'm  a little confused now I believe what we have to do   is that and then now we're revoting on them No  So I think what we have to do you have to pull   back your current motion because we've already  done the motion to reconsider So the action last   week is it's gone now It's gone So now they're  on this agenda today and we can pull that item   individually that needs to be changed to reflect  and then just move forward with everything else   That's not how we like when we've done most of the  reconsider We voted to do the reconsideration and   then we do the actual vote on correct But these  ones are already on

139here for a vote tonight for   something else that was I know I understand  what you guys are saying I'm saying when you   do the motion to reconsider the first thing is  can we do a motion to reconsider that's yes The   second part is to actually redo the vote on them  But we're not redoing a vote We are new We did   vote on them So I have to do that redo redo the  vote for them to be able to come over here or   amend or do another motion to reconsider to say  something different than what we usually do That   is what we would need to do cuz we're changing  this into a different vote like the vote So but   we're in the middle of a vote right now So we  have to finish this vote now

140What up you can So   this one is redoing redo the rec reconsider Yes  Okay Like we're doing an actual vote that we're   recoing We've already we've already decided that  we were going to reconsider the vote So now we   voting now we're voting on A7 and A13 from last  week Okay And can I can we start the vote over   please but can I vote on them separate can we  vote on them separately please can we vote on   A7 first and then A13 second would you like to  make that motion you cannot make a motion that's   currently inside of a current So I can I can admit  my motion to vote separately Yes Okay So now it's   A7 So we're voting on A7 A7 first from last week  Correct Okay And then we're going to vote on

141A13 Okay Okay I'm I'm with you now All  right Let me just make sure I got   the right person Dr Goodwin give me one second No No Okay On the A7 Okay A7 Uh Dr Bailey No Mr Lacy No Mr Smith no Miss Reinard no Mr Walker  no Miss Wick no Okay Seven No On A7 Okay   Now A13 And before we do that let  me just ask a question Dr Lawrence   you do have you do have something in  writing on this individual correct uh   I have something in the answer was yes  Okay that's what I need to know Yes to   transportation journalist is what it says  That's all I need to know Okay go ahead So this position So now we're going  on A13 to accept the resignation or not I just needed to get

142clear which is  why I broke them up President Goodwin   no Dr Bailey no Mr Lacy no Mr Smith  No Miss Rhina No Mr Walker No Miss   Got it Seven No Okay On to your  first recommendation Dr Lawrence I'd like to recommend the approval of the  following administrative appointments And   I'd like to change A3 to location transportation  position transportation generalist But this is   not a resignation No So you also want to  say that you want to take off resignation   too Yes So we are taking off resignation going  for resignation and reassignment All right So   say it all together So let's go So yeah approval  of the following administrative appointments A3   that you see in executive content that is not  a resignation We're going from um reassignment   So location is reassignment from Wagaman to  the transportation center

143and the position   is from dean to transportation generalist So  move who did give it to Dr Bailey do you want   to be the second And Mr Walker the second Any  questions on the motion yes Go ahead Do we move   for a second vote for replacements that's  fine Anything else all right Madam Treasure   maybe I have a vote Okay President Goodwin  Yes Dr Bailey Yes Mr Lacy Yes Mr Smith Yes   Miss Rhina Yes Mr Walker Yes Miss Wick Yes  Seven yeses All right This vote is on the placements a vote Is this the one where Dr Lawrence is  making his You want to say a piece on   I I already said it No contractional piece  on the recommendation that you had for us   uh the contract piece of accepting the 9enters  Oh gotcha Gotcha Yeah I'd

144just like to say that   um this was I think when we passed the first um  first schedule in November it was voted on then   I think it's voted on a second time as well in  terms of 9% So we want to come to a compromise We   heard board members we heard uh staff members and  we've come to a compromise and this kind of for   us splits the difference and gives staff members a  chance to uh continue their education and also not   lose the entire 9% but also put us in a position  where we move toward an organization where in all   the leadership roles you have a a degree Dr Dr  Bley will you accept the friendly amendment a   motion amendment that these contracts have for the  individuals who do not have degrees the conditions   of

145them either that's listed in the contract  of them enrolling in school by the August date   maintaining that piece and if they don't do that  they they could possibly be moved to DSS's Yes I   accept All right So point point of information  on that um individuals whose salaries are there   and if we're saying that come August they have to  be enrolled into a program their salary would not   decrease for this upcoming contract year but for  the following they could be moved to the other   position That is correct Okay I just want to clear  Thank you So do we move them to the lead salary or   how is it according to this one which the one  on here the offer that is out I believe is at   the 9% once they show they're in there then they 

146go up is that the language that's in there y all   right okay it's the way they are we roll them yep  the way it is on here okay all right thank have a   vote but before we call the vote I just want to be  clear that if individuals on the admin placement   feel that they are not placed in the right column  they can appeal that to the superintendent Okay   Question Go ahead So Dr Lawrence um how can  we make this clear for folk who would like to   appeal what is the deadline what is the time  frame because then also I know these changes   then create more work for our treasur So while  I feel I would much rather have this done when   the mistakes or people's perceived mistakes are  corrected what is that timeline for

147folk look like   uh that works best with the treasur and then maybe  madam treasur what would work for you if there are   changes when would you need to have them by to  be able to fully go through with them with fewer   mistakes i would just say that there really No you  go ahead I'm sorry That should be in June because   we have to roll them July 1st for July 1st So  we need all mistakes corrected by June June 30th   Yeah By June 15 Yeah June business meeting June  15 Does that work for you june business meeting   works And board me Uh yes June June business  meeting works Will will something be sent out   to staff letting them know the time frame that  they have to appeal this placement mhm Absolutely Anything else that we have

148a vote dr Goodwin Yes Dr Bailey Yes Mr Lacy Yes Mr Smith  Yes Please reach out to the staff so we can fix   these mistakes Miss Rhina yes Mr Walker yes Miss  Wick yes Seven yeses Your next recommendation my   next recommendation I recommend the approval of  the following certified appointments Can I make   a motion to take C through E together is there a  second second C through E together All right Madam   Chair any questions yes Uh for the DSS placement  will that staff have the same opportunity if they   want to appeal the placement yeah the letter  that we send out for notification They're all   in the same email thread Right Appreciate you  Question please Madam President Go ahead Um   B25 if we have B25 on here is there a reason  for F letter F I

149was actually going to ask for   a friendly amendment to accept F with it They  all typically accompany with a resolution via   our legal team Actually let me make sure I'm  looking at the same issue My bad Because those   two things those two things go against each other  directly Yeah cuz one is one is saying that in   lie of it's a resignation and the other one is  a resolution for termination Dr Dr I'd like to   the resol Yeah the resolution by the resolution is  wish forward The B25 should be taken off should be   removed Friendly amendment accepted Thank you  It wasn't your motion was but he accepted it I I mean I'm fine with I guess I'm just curious So on on one part it it's saying in  lie of right and then the other one  

150is a full thing Yeah What I think  happened was in that conversation   um what you see in executive content in lie  of that was process and negotiations and we we   didn't get to where we should be So then you see  what happened underneath that Yeah My my issue is Okay Okay All right Madam Treasure Any other  questions um we're not putting we're not putting   the what's that F on there we're not having F  in your vote Correct No it was an amendment to   add F It amendment to add F and to take out  the I like to vote separately on F That's fine So we voting C to E without without  B25 I don't even have a B25 This way at   the bottom Okay I see it I see it All  right Go ahead Yeah

151it goes B1 through   four All right So yeah everything C through  E without B25 Yes All right President abstain Dr Bailey Yes Mr Lacy Yes Mr  Smith My mom is still looking through See if I need to say yes for now Okay Ra yes Mr Walker yes Miss Wick yes six yeses  one abstain now vote no F question ma'am go ahead   all right so Dr arts Mhm In lie of the fact  that we have no one here from HR to tell us   about this or to give us any information on what  happened what went on like even the resolution   It is very to me it is very sketchy and not full  of anything or any information that actually leads   me to be able to vote in a way without me just  blindly accepting what is

152put forth in front of   me Um that is troubling especially with the fact  that we had two different motions or two different   avenues on the same agenda and we're just removing  one Like that is just concerning and troubling for   me as a board member to just walk into it and then  not have anyone here that could go in and answer   those questions What well publicly what questions  would you like to ask ain't nothing I don't ask   publicly and not trying to I mean no one's here  if we even went to an executive So I just I mean   I can't do nothing I was involved in the situation  intimately But you there's nothing in there that   talks about like so there's a date that's in  here when these things start Mhm The date around   training and

153being told how to do these things  is months later So we're talking about something   that was the beginning of the school year and  then we're talking about a training on these   things about a month ago I would call the board's  attention to the uh how the money was returned how   the assets were returned and also to the board's  attention to previous incidents Um so for us it's   a it's a pattern but that's what I'm saying  There's nothing in here of that So I'm saying   we're being told to accept a pattern without being  shown a pattern That is troubling You're telling   me to accept what you're saying without being able  to show that what you are saying is actually true   I think the contents of the resolution are  pretty clear Can I can I add that

154I I don't want   us to say previous patterns of this individual  because this body voted differently on what was   recommended for this individual in the past That's  what it looks like Looks like this individual   had something came up and now we're trying to get  another reason to do this to an individual because   we're talking patterns and all these things that  are not laid out in the resolution All right Are   other members ready to vote on this one we have  Yeah Before it was C to E and that now that it's   refreshed Yeah Should only be A through E There's  no F Okay So what did what was taken out of A   of All right Yeah We voted for C to E already We  now when we refresh it's something the executive   session executive session was

155put on there and  now it's gone I see Okay I Yeah I don't do that   So it should be B voting on B CD and then voting  on E So can I do a motion to reconsider for item   E can we just correct the record because it's  it's a clerical mistake because it was that   one there So yeah B Yeah it's just a clerical  correction E is the one we're voting on now   because there wasn't There shouldn't have been So  B through B through D was together E is separate   That's what the motion is out right now for  All right All right Are we ready to vote mr   has a brought up his thing Any everyone else  ready to vote yes All right Madam Treasure   maybe we have a vote Okay President Goodwin  yes Dr

156Bailey yes Mr Lacy yes Mr Smith abstain Miss Reard yes Mr Walker abstain Miss Wick yes  five years to abstain Can I Thank you Does that   That concludes my recommendations Dr Lawrence  before looking at this list Kaiser will have two   assistant principles That's a the second one's a  traveling one So we have two traveling principles   When Miss Burl gave her um presentation you asked  about what the plus two was That wasn't what she   said though That was something different What  did she say i thought for sure that's what she   said No because I think our question was why would  we pay individuals to travel around the building   the same salary instead of being placed in one  specific building and the reason I say that now   is because you have at least seven or eight open 

157assistant principal positions But so I already   passed I just saw that one cuz I was curious about  that specific person Yeah they're they're at this   moment they're traveling but we still have  movement among us right now All right Madam   Treasur five forecast Okay I have a presentation  first uh we need to go through Okay this   uh presentation is a five-year forecast for May  um and it's an update from November uh forecast So the purpose of and objectives of this  forecast is to engage the board of education   and the community in a long range planning and  discussions of financial issues facing the school   district to serve as a basis for determining the  school district's ability to sign the certificate   required by OC 5705 5.412 certificates to provide  methods for the Ohio Department of Education   and the

158Auditor of State to identify school  districts with potential financial problems Oh are you projecting uh Leslie leslie are you Sugar are you projecting it showing  it on the screen for the audience the five-year   forecast Yeah All the board members have it up  so we're following you Okay Did you get it okay   Okay Before we get into the numbers a financial  forecast is somewhat like a painting the future   based upon a snapshot of today The five-year  forecast is viewed as a key management tool and   should be updated periodically In a financial  forecast the numbers only tell a small part of   the story For the numbers to be meaningful  one must review and consider the notes and   assumptions before drawing a conclusion or using  the data as a basis for calculations A five-year   forecast encourages the management

159teams to  examine examine future years projections and   identify when challenges arise This helps  district management to proactive in meeting   the challenges Can you go to the fourth okay Key  line items The five-year forecast is divided in   two sections revenue and expenditures A district  a district's revenue is made up of two main   sources which is local and state funding The  expenditures are mainly salary and benefits   purchase services and supplies and materials  Okay On this forecast we have concerns fiscal   year 26 and fiscal year 27 state budget legisl  legislative concerns The governor's budget called   for 103 million less for public schools and 448  million more for vouchers and private schools   There are 14 proposed laws to impact local  property taxes and vouchers that could reduce   local funding for all public schools in Ohio  HB96 is among the

160most egregious and the most   serious concern to all public schools districts  It would eliminate the fair school funding plan   calling a temporary foundation funding I don't  know suspending fuse and sixes year of the phase   in limit school district carryover cash balance to  30% of the prior year expenditures empower county   county budget commissioners to suspend voter  approved levies and uh disregard the 20 mil floor So as you can see on this one uh fiscal year 26  27 state budget timeline the timeline is February   4 2025 governor summit and the next one is house  passes uh HB96 We are here now The yellow Senate   uh passes it will uh should pass late May We are  our forecast is due this month by the end of this   month Conference committee late June So July our  physical year start

161July 1st physical year starts   So we are in labor So this is the timeline  The state the the Senate is now deliberating   state foundation funding and property tax for  schools House Bill 96 provisions will be taken   up by the Senate and the outcome unknown at this  time The Senate has five pending pieces of the   legislation concerning property tax taxation The  state budget process will not be finalized until   the end of June Our five-year forecast has to be  filed by the end of May which is tomorrow We will   file the forecast with our current state funding  level and the property tax laws at at this time So our district financial story overview  House Bill 33 continue to face in of the   fair fund school funding plan 24 fiscal  year 24 and 25 Current funding has us

162as   a guaranteed through fiscal year 25 SR funds  that helped us as increased general fund for   physical fund balances fiscal year 21 to 24  ended in September 2024 Fiscal year future   funding is uncertain still for 26 to 29  since in this forecast we have two bianiums um we receive 62% since we receive 62% of our  revenue from the state funding of Ohio and 38%   is from our local So still we are waiting on  those We are on the guarantee and HP96 the   governor's proposed uh budget will reduce funding  might reduce funding by 5% for the uh budget years Our district financial story continued  There are several property tax reforms being   proposed by the legislator that could impact  our local revenues in the future We will not   know what these are until later this year  If

163the state of Ohio cuts and reduces our   state funding and severely impacts  our ability to raise local funding   our district will need to make cuts or  to go to our um community for more levies   Under current laws and state funding we  are projecting a negative fund balance in 2028 So since this is a um a repeat  of uh the November our November   uh we compared our November forecast to  this forecast We are really our forecast   is very good Uh we are 95.9% accurate compared  to November in our revenue The same thing 95.4%   accurate compared to November So only one month  left and uh really we are within our forecast   So now when we go to the next one you see the blue  is the our revenue So our revenue is when you see   on the

164forecast it's flat but our expenditures are  rising up Due to the expenditure rising up and our   revenue is flat our fund balance goes down So we  see we will have a negative fund balance in 2028   If I may really quickly treasure interrupt you and  let the audience and the people here know there's   consistently this disconnect between what's  projected and what's um the under board docs Um   there is more detail if you go under board docs  and look at the um the five-year forecast under   board docs There's numbers attached to this graph  just so you know I just need to point that out Um   it's okay Go on Yeah Leslie did you download it  always I don't It's okay Go ahead Okay Thank you Okay Uh the next slide is local revenues  versus state revenues Just

165to show you   how our revenues are trending It's flat  and uh how uh our revenue in local to   uh local our taxes that's the trend as you can  see HB uh house bill 110 restores funding to   fiscal year 21 levels when considering uh  district payment So that's what that's the   reason why it's flat Uh House Bill 33 reflected  in 2229 shows no significant uh change in revenue   or state support So we need to consider or  pay attention to our expenditures on this   The next slide shows our revenues Our revenue  so far is 238.9 million So from where do they   come state fun is state foundation from  the state we have 62% and from local is 38% So we have to really we are heavily dependent  on our state revenues We are showing here is   estimated

166um general fund expenditures  for fiscal year 2025 We only have one   uh months left and u this is where we are What  we spend is our spending is in our uh salaries   salaries are 54% and um our uh benefits are  18% So really it's not uh that impactful This one is the next Still it's not showing We're on page 15 Yeah Okay Okay Estimated general fund  expenditures by object for the forecast year   So this is the expenditures as in the  prior uh prior slide we showed you the   revenues This one is we are showing you the  expenditures Our expenditures are rising but   our revenue stayed flat That's the reason  why we put this one for the um forecast years The next go next next slide is  okay fund ending cash balance as a   two cash

167days This what it's showing  us is if we don't receive any money   uh receipts how long can we go so it shows the  prior years actual years high because we you   we had the ser funding So we were protecting  our general fund and we have fund balances   So in 2022 we could have gone 249 days without  getting any other revenues In 2023 227 days In 2024 212 In 2025 145 2026 101 and 2027 65 After  that we don't have a fund balance to go without So   It it's shows it's showing  us deepening into our fund balance general uh revenue concerns what we  have HP uh 33 the banium budget the fair school   funding plan made many changes to the state  funding payments and expenditures but left   as guaranteed Uh two state by name budget 20

168uh  26 27 and 2829 So those are unknown Uh a student   student wellness success funds now it is in  general fund So we have to take care on that one   SR3 expenditures moved to the general fund in  2025 So our general fund is carrying all those   expenditures uh must continue to review  the uh student wellness success general   fund costs and adjust budget because of we are  since we are still projecting uh negative Watch   the recommendation of the joint committee  pro committee on property tax reforms Mhm   That's it on this one Do you have any question  i'm going say thank you for the presentation I   think there's a lot of key things to hone in on  here too but I something I've been asking the   our board leadership team to continuously look at  is our reality

169is that we cannot maintain without   and seeing some increase somewhere on the things  that we brought in when we got that surplus of   funds from ESSER and now we're out of ESSER and  at a certain point we do have to make those those   cuts and start to start scaling Even though we  are actively trying to bring more students in to   help the revenue as you guys saw on the beginning  of the slide the amount that goes out to vouchers   is still a a large amount 448 million on the  second slide there So that those the realities   of some decisions that this board will face  are we are getting closer to them not farther   away So I do thank you for the presentation  Are there any other comments from the board   go ahead Um thank you

170treasure I want to point  out on slide 16 um we've been talking a little   bit um about the cash carryover cap that is part  of uh House Bill 96 That would be particularly   devastating for almost every single district  Yes In the state Um and I want to point out   what you put on the slide The GFOA which is  the government finance officers association   recommends 60 days or two months of unencumbered  reserves It is best practices It is yes wise   uh financial um fiscal responsibility on our  part to have cash reserves You never know what   will happen Um our bond rating will go down  Um it will affect the types of loans that we   can take out Um so I thank you for putting these  numbers out there for the district treasur Thank   you Thank you

171Thank you Any other comments all  right Madam Treasur your first recommendation Okay I recommend the approval of the five-year  forecast for uh May So move second moved   by Mr Lacy Second by Dr Goodwin Any  questions on the motion seeing none   may we have a vote president Goodwin yes  Dr Bailey yes Mr Lacy yes Mr Smith yes   Miss Reard yes Mr Walker let the record  show that he left the meeting at 7:00 p.m Okay Miss Wick Yes Six yeses Thank you Does that   conclude your recommendations yes  Dr Jones your first recommendation Thank you Madam President Uh first I'd like to  recommend ratification of the lease agreement   at 1516 Stanley Avenue Is there a motion so  move Is there I second it Quick question for   you cuz it's not open up on here Need to be  for

172voting Is this the same lease that was   on the review session in May cuz that's  the one I can see I can't see the one Uh   May 13th Yes Yes With the four-year term Yes  ma'am Okay Any questions on the motion and if   anyone needs to see it it's on the review  session meeting All right M may we have   a vote president Goodwin yes Dr Bailey yes Mr  Lacy yes Mr Smith yes Miss Reard yes Mr Walker   oh sorry Uh Miss Wick Yes Six yeses Okay Okay  I believe next you have a presentation prior   to your recommendation or would you like to  just jump into your recommendation actually   I'd like to just jump into the recommendation  Go ahead Let's see Just say the magic words Get to the right page here Okay So uh for

173the sake of brevity uh what you are  um looking at here is a breakdown of the work that   needs to be completed in each one of our buildings  Okay and so um the the cost don't be alarmed by it   uh because those are you know the going rates We  took the best estimates of what uh HVAC would cost   or a roof will cost at Thirdwood for instance  And so um nothing is etched in stone in terms   of when the work will occur And so what I am  uh seeking is ratification of the capital plan   uh based on the estimations of um the costs Quick  question for you Yes ma'am This is a continuence   of the fund 007 that was created Yes sir Last  week and that is the way that we can utilize   the fund

174Is that correct yes ma'am Yes All right  Is there a motion so moved Second Second Moved   by Miss Riner Second by Mr Lacy Any questions  on the motion seeing none may we have a vote   president Goodwin Yes Dr Bailey yes Mr Lacy yes  Mr Smith yes Miss Reard Yes Mr Miss Wick Yes Six   Yeses Thank you Dr Jones All right Next we have  our policies Can you guys open the No but it's   below Oh okay I see it's below Okay All right In  so much of the board of education is committed to   the continuing updating of its policies rules  and regulations Manual The committee which was   appointed has been working towards that goal  The following are brought at this time for   second reading in compliance with board file Now  therefore be resolved that the board

175of education   of Vegas City School District McGomery County  Ohio hereby accepts and adopts the following   policies which have been codified for inclusion  in the handbook policies rules and regulations   I move that we adopt the policies below Is there  a second second Any questions on the motion yes   Can we move GBCC for a separate vote yes All right  You have that Madam Chair yes All right May have a vote Okay President Goodwin Yes Dr Bailey Yes Mr  Lacy Yes Mr Smith Yes Miss Rhinard Yes Miss Wig   Yes Okay All right GBCC can I have a go go ahead  You have comments yes I would want to stress once   again the importance of our leadership of creating  if this will go through to create their own dress   codes as I believe as is stated right now creates 

176a overreach of extraneous nature for our staff   which doesn't align in my mind with better  academic outcomes seeing as I look across our   our area and none of our high performing schools  have similar things placed on their staff So if   this does go through I would express my desire  for all of our staff to work to create their   own dress codes that better reflect the needs of  their individual buildings and individual spaces   Cuz as I look at this now I see no need for a a  staff member in an elementary school to be dressed   business professional dayto-day doesn't work for  them than what they do So as I said before hope   they get there and do their owns because as it  stands now we're putting things on people that   better performing districts don't even have

177on  their staff So for me if it doesn't produce better   outcomes and it only creates another reason  for a staff member to want to pick another   place to work can't go for it All right any other  questions or comments seeing none may we have a   vote presidential Dwayne Yes Dr Bailey yes Mr Lacy  yes Mr Smith no Miss Rhina yes Mr Miss Wick yes Five yeses one no Motion to adjurnn  So moved Second Moved by Miss Riner   second by Mr Lacy Any May we have a  vote president Goodwin Yes Dr Bailey   Yes Mr Lacy Yes Mr Smith Yeah Miss  Reard Yes Miss Wick Yes six yeses All right see you guys again on the 28th  No we have a meeting No Yeah the 28th We   have a board retreat at some point  No we have

178a meeting Never mind Bye

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