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School City of Hobart Board Work Session - 2025-08-07

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YouTube / School City of Hobart Board Meetings
Date
2025-08-08
Location
Lake County, IN
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1,294 words · about 8 min
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2026-06-08

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001reflecting proposed changes to board policy. Majority of those exhibits, the changes are compended to comply with changes to state law. regarding instruction on human sexuality and access to instructional materials by parents and students. Basically, none of these exhibits have incorporating language to reflect changes to state law. Does anyone have any questions on ex? So basically the the big difference on this for the board um is that in uh being in line with the statute changes you will approve the human sexuality curriculum and it has to be posted on our website. >> Okay state law that requires be allowed to record. If you have a situation where a parent chooses to record conference meeting, They need to start meeting questioning. >> Would they need to start the meeting with the question? I thought they needed advanced

002notice or permission to do that like two days before or something so they would know already ahead of time. Correct. Well, that's the whole premise of this that we have to be very concerned about that they would record something which we should So that there is no manipulation. Um that we would we would be able to say this is our copy of it. Right. >> And this is >> correct. That's how I read it. All right. Any other questions about exhibit exhibit which is policy assessment again to reflect changes in state law. providing exemptions for English language learning students. I think it's imperative for the board to know that um as this is unfolding with all of this it's really important that you recognize that for a good cause exemption it you know like it's

003special ed there's some other things with e English language learners but if a student doesn't pass I read even twice they they will have to be retained twice. And so that has also prompted where if parents are now becoming educated about this that it's prompting them to want special ed testing much more um in an advanced mode. And I I can't say that I blame them for that. I hope the legislators take a look at that. I don't think it's healthy to be holding back a child two years in a row. But in the same token, their prior legislation was fine. And what do I mean by that? Okay, so if they didn't pass I read and they are capable of going on to grade four, you give them grade three and grade four, right?

004And reading and writing. And so there's other ways around this than to continue to hold kids back like that. Um, I can tell you in our own school corporation and neighboring school corporations, that's a huge discussion with all of us right now about retention. And it's it's devastating to a lot of parents and kids and and no one is for social promotion, but obviously some kids it takes a little bit longer and they're not special ed. They just need a little longer. Right. >> Exactly. So, their system before worked really well. Um, how about like third grade standards being taught and fourth grade if they're not that developmentally behind, which we could tell by the scores and other data points. So, I just want the board to know that that is happening more so now

005where and here's the other caveat that goes with that. You cannot um you know like a parent's requesting testing after a child doesn't you have to already have been evaluated and deemed special ed before you get that good cause exemption. >> So parents are angry about that because they feel like their child should be tested because that would stop the retention process and it does not um you have to have already been identified. So those are good talking points and if you need more information obviously you can call me. >> The other point on that is every retained graduating. >> Exactly. So retrained twice, they have a 50% chance of graduating. >> Correct. >> Right. So you No one wants to be in high school when they're 20 years old. And so uh it's >>

006it's good intentions but the wrong process. Uh we have other ways to help kids with that. It's not not necessary. changes to state law. Descriation Any questions about revision to board policy? changes in state law. Legislation excluded the prohibition on transferetic reason policy said that six Changes in state law. One of the definitions is Interesting definition for purposes of license. That hasn't changed. provision is to prohibit suspension or expulsion because I think that one um added piece on here that was added in this legislative session where you cannot expel a student for being truent. Um and basically you have you're trying to do anything you can to prevent a dropout but a student refuses to come to school and so you know at some point they've missed 67 days or whatever and you're still trying

007to talk them into coming back to school and I agree with the legislators. it doesn't make sense to expel them when you're trying to get them to come back to school. So, believe it or not, I do agree with them. It's just tough. Um, you do everything that you can to make sure that kids come and sometimes it's just difficult to get them. >> What's the number of days again that the they've changed to that the students can miss? >> Is it still 10? >> Right. You go on a truency plan if you've missed five in a 10 week period. >> 10 week period. So that's five per grading period. Well, a little bit more. >> It's >> well 10 weeks. That's a little bit more than a grading period. We're eight weeks. >> Grading

008period is nine weeks. >> Okay. >> Those would be absences. Um >> excused or unexcused. Correct. >> It would be unexcused. >> Okay. They did give us some options which we won't even get into with this session. I will just say Dr. Jenner, our secretary of education did a call out on Chris King because she called me and wanted me to look at something. I was I think I was in a meeting with I don't know who I was in a meeting with but anyways I sent it to Chris King because we had just met about this John Chris and myself and we out what we thought the legislation meant. And so I told her what I thought it meant and then she sent me back and said, "Does this look good to you?" And

009I'm like, "I can't review this now." I sent it to Chris. And so um Chris was like, "Yeah, this and he gave some really good comments and I sent them back to Dr. Jenner." So um I want to just give kudos to him because and John too because we had ironed that out what we thought it meant and she did agree with our interpretation. It's just complicated. They make everything very complicated. I think what is really important for you to know. Our handbooks reflect local policy. Um our attendance rates have never been better. Uh all of our all of our schools were 95% or higher except for the high school. They were 94. and they were down in the 40s and 50s after co. So if we don't think that this didn't work, it worked.

010Um, and it's just important for the public to know you cannot learn if you're not here. And co really gave people a false sense of what it means to be online or make up work or not being here and it's okay. That's not true. Uh, and so, um, I do think that you see higher rates of achievement going along with those attendance rates. So, good job. >> Good job. >> So, it's unexused. Um, John, I do want to make note on that about discussing with white men in the virtual school. There are some changes in here we need to go over with him. Exhibit two board policies that are being revised to reflect changes to state law. You may recall some years back policy rather clear that discrimination on the basis of sex Having said

011that, we still have decisions by the seven circuit of those issues. change how things are done. So I don't see that change how things are actually Anyone have any questions about includes a technical correction that I policy reflect changes to state law. The change here is primarily to make it clear that students have the right 10 has to do with food service. Charges. this um you know in transitioning over to Patrick uh he's done a really great job with this particular item. Um I will say working with Bobby and Tracy Brumley our treasure trying to re this in um you know, it's it's it's unfortunate. We ask people to fill out free and reduced lunch applications. Um, some people do. Um, we're constantly reminding people of it. And then what happens is like we we

012give we give lunch no matter what. There's no food shaming, right? And people know that. Well, there was a total in your pink colored um items that we deleted where basically once they got to $20 um you know they were trying to use the Ricky lunchbox fund for it and and after $20 it wasn't even accumulating anymore. Um and so it was never showing how much they racked up in charges. And so we basically eliminated that. So we know that we don't food shame, but if you're in that meal charging section, there's no limit to the number of reimburseable meals, but guess what? We're keeping track of that. And if you don't pay your bill, we're turning it over to collection. Um, and so that's basically how this is coming down to it. Unpaid meal

013charges shall continue to acrew. Um, and then they're going to constantly be their negative balances and then uh we will turn it over to a collection agency. >> You can see that over on your next page. >> And that's basically it everybody. >> Look at you. Great job. >> That was very good. All right, board. We have an exact session.

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