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WLCSC - Work Session June 3, 2026

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2026-06-04
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Tippecanoe County, IN
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5,362 words · about 30 min
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2026-06-08

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001joining us virtually. Um, Lawrence, can you hear me? Okay. >> There we go. >> I I'm going to take that as a positive ding. And Mr. Lifto, can you hear me? Okay, >> I can. Can you hear me? >> Yes. Perfect. And that was my next question because um you are our presenter this evening. >> We have some other people joining us, I think. Is he? I only see the three. There's Lawrence. Kind of. >> We're going to work out our technical difficulties for a moment. Absolutely. >> Okay. And I thought we had one other right now just to see. >> She's probably on the road. Oh, is he in the wrong meeting? >> M Mr. Reuters in the wrong meeting. >> Okay, thank you. >> You're fine. Take your time. >> Just give us

002one moment, please. Appreciate your patience. Okay. So, we're also having trouble with Jeff Daylor and Dave. Okay. Thank you. They want to be on, too. I'll let him know. Jeff Daylor and Yep. And Dave Jesus. Okay. Okay, we're good then. David, do you want to scooch down this way tonight or good out in Siberia all there by yourself? >> Yeah. >> Uhhuh. >> All right. I see Jeff. >> Looking for one more expert. >> Yes. Let me just check. >> Okay, thank you. You want to go ahead and do that? >> Thank you. Randy, be glad you're not joining us online. We're having difficult technical difficulties. So, >> we may have alleviated stress for you today. It says I'm waiting. >> He says it says it's waiting on the host. So, do you think it's

003the wrong one? >> Okay. >> Yes, that's it. >> Okay. Oh, that looks like good news. >> He's on now. All right, we're good. I think we've got everybody present. Mrs. Austin, thank you for your >> Thank you. And we have not lost Lawrence. He's still in there somewhere even though he's not appearing on the screen. Correct. Lawrence left. >> Okay, >> we'll send him a quick text. >> See what he says. >> And I think UA is also trying to get on and is having >> goodness gracious. This is >> Huh. Well, since we're being recorded, shall we go ahead and get started and we'll move on. Um, >> yes, since we're not taking any action and um since it was kind of an emergency situation, we can go ahead and and keep going.

004Um, okay. So tonight we have um Don Liftoff and Jeff Daylor and Mike Reyder here to talk with us about the survey results from um the uh recent survey and to let us know what you've learned and we're very excited to hear from you. So please uh take it away gentlemen. Was that uh Don Lefto that was posted? >> Yes, please go right ahead. I love Zoom. It's my favorite. >> I haven't used Google Meet before. Uh do I open my PowerPoint first or do I click on the share the screen? >> I think open your PowerPoint first, make sure your notifications are turned off um so they don't pop up for you and then hit share screen. Yeah. Well, we are only good at this on Mondays apparently. The rest of the week is

005first. How's it going, Mr. Lto? You got it, >> Eric. We've got another one, Dave, that's trying to get in. >> Yes. And let in by the host. If not, Robera, you need to send Dave. >> Yes. David PR. >> Okay. So, >> he's Yep. I think so. So, Robera sent Dave the link again and I will let Jeff know to let Dave know to look at the email. >> Can you see my screen yet? >> Yes. And yeah, now you just have to present and you should be good. >> Okay, Lawrence is back. There we go. >> Can you hear me? can hear you, >> Lawrence. >> We got everybody. >> Yep. At the moment, >> we've got you. Okay, we got the screen shared. >> Is it work? Is it working on your

006end? >> Don, it just it just disappeared. You're going to have to reshare. >> Oh. Huh. Lawrence. Yes, we can hear you. >> You can hear me? >> Yes. >> Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Where are we going? I'm seeing the uh screen from my computer. >> Well, we've got the presentation pulled up here. So, if you want to just say next slide when you're ready to step forward, we can go ahead and proceed. We've got the um our copy says West Lafayette Community School. >> You want me to go ahead and and start presenting? >> Sure. >> Make sure it's the right one because there's multiple. >> Oh, this one's the 2026 community survey summary of results and it's got books on the right and has the Morris Leatherman Company at the bottom. Is

007that what we should be looking at? Can you see it behind us on this on the screen here? Is that the right one? >> Don, do you know how to share your screen? It would be really helpful if you just shared your screen with us. >> What's that say? >> I I I did that and uh on my computer it's upside down and on my screen it's right side up. >> How about How about this? Um why don't I share my screen and you tell me when to advance the slide. >> Okay. All right. >> That looks great. >> Take a look. >> I'm not I'm not seeing anything. >> Can you see um uh us? >> I can't see. I don't see anybody. And I um I don't see your screen. >> Yeah. In

008in the toolbar, see if you can find the meeting that would be titled meet.google.com in your bottom bottom two bar. Maybe alt tab through what you have open to come back to it. Hey, Dave is here too. Are you folks seeing seeing the PowerPoint? >> Yes, we have the PowerPoint up and we can see you as well. So, >> well, I cannot see you. Yeah, you you need to figure out how to get your Google on like you are at a typical Google meet and you should be able to see when Jeff Daylor shares his screen, you should be able to see the screen that he's presenting if you're a member of our you just going to have to refine the window. I can't see his stomach. But that's all >> for you. All we

009see is your stomach. >> Is it Is it going to work if I um just move ahead and present present the results? >> Yeah, we can we can advance the slides here and Jeff has them as well. So, >> someone interrupt me then if you want me slow down, stop, or if you have a question. I'm on the first slide, West Lafayette Community School Corporation 2026 Community Survey summary of results. >> Yep. >> Uh the survey outline uh in the intro uh for this particular survey project, we uh interviewed 400 registered voters living within the boundaries of the school corporation. Uh as you can see they were done in miday. The length of the survey was uh 33 questions. Um most of our surveys are between 30 and 40 questions. So this was in that

010range and the average interview length was 10 minutes. Uh we try to stay uh under 15 minutes uh for phone interviews. So again, you were right in the range where you want to be and the margin of error is plus or minus 4.8%. It's been a while since your last statistics class, but what that means is if you see uh a slide that says 50% of the people uh think the sky is blue. Uh if you if you add 4.8% 8% to that and subtract 4.8%. There's a 95% chance that what you see on the screen uh represents what all registered voters think. Uh even though uh our um sample was with 400 and put that in some context uh for you. Uh if you heard about a survey um on the TV or on

011a radio uh and they survey did did random sample interviewing with um people across the whole United States uh 300 million uh the average uh number that they do for those surveys is between 1,200 and500 So 400 to New York school corporation is a very solid sample. Uh the interview process included uh demographic targets and the next slide that you're going to see after this one will show you uh the targets that were uh controlled. Um what that means is that before we started uh we purchased a database that told us how many women there were and how many men and how many uh young people and how many older people etc. And the random sample uh interviews were set up such that uh we controlled for uh age, gender, parent status, and voting history.

012On the voting history, what we look at is out of the last 10 times that um people within the school corporation had a chance to vote on something It could be city, could be county, could be u a referendum, it could be a national election. So out of the last 10 times they had a chance to vote, how many times did they all vote? Uh and based on that history, we put people in one of three groupings. uh infrequent voters, people who get there about half the time, and people who almost always get there. We did track cell phones and home ownership u but they were not demographic targets. Next slide. Uh the main body of the survey was split into two sections. Uh consistent with a survey that I did for you in 2023.

013That one the sampling was done in late August into early September of 2023. Um the first section measured opinions about the school corporation, its performance. The second section asked about potential renewal of the uh school corporation's referendum funding, including impacts of funding on schools and and programs. Additional questions asked how people how they they received information uh regarding the school corporation. Next slide. Um we began uh early in the survey with a fidel Gallup question that's been asked uh close to 60 years. Uh students are often given the grades of ABCDF to denote the quality of their work. Suppose the public schools themselves in your community graded in the same way. What grade would you give to the public schools in West Lafayette? Next slide. Here's the results of that question. Uh you can see

01480 87% of respondents gave the school corporation a grade of A or B. Um this is uh significantly better than uh what we typically see in surveys and remember that uh less than 20% of the 400 respondents were current parents of school-aged kids. So it's a very very good um grade. less than 2% gave D's and there were no no FG grades at all. Next slide. Now um having looked at that very positive response uh what we're doing in the next uh slide is giving you two uh compar comparisons one the five del survey that was last conducted in 2025. the national survey and then we also were able to compare the results to the same question that was used in your 2023 survey. Next slide. So here you're seeing uh in blue the most

015recent survey in West Lafayette in the orange uh what how people responded in 20123 and then in the kind of light green uh how people responded to the exact same question uh in the f Felicappa survey that was a national survey. As you can see, the the grades for 2026 were very similar to the grades that you saw in 2023. Uh just slightly more B's and slightly fewer C's. Much better than the national survey. And when you when you make that comparison to the national survey, uh be aware that it was the it was the exact same question. So people who were interviewed in the national survey were not giving a grade to the nation's schools. They were giving a grade to their local public schools. Next slide. respondents were asked for the what was

016the basis of the grade they gave to the school corporation and in in the phone survey there were six options that were offered and people chose the one that they thought best represented uh their opinion. So as you can see in the blue was the largest percentage at 30% uh based on the their children's experience. Friends and neighbors is the orange local news media is kind of the uh greenish and personal experience in the gold. Next slide. After the overall grade was given, participants were asked to grade the school corporation's financial management. This also was a very uh positive response. Um, when we use both of these questions in a school survey, the percent that give A's and B's for financial management is is never as high as the overall quality, but 76% is higher

017than what we normally see in most of the surveys we've done over the years. Next slide. Um here with the financial management again we can compare it to 20123 as we use the exact same question in that in that survey. So if you can see that the A's were almost identical. Uh the most recent survey had more B's and fewer C's. Next slide. The community perceptions of the of the school corporation uh were a series of prompts where people reacted to situational characteristics. Uh asking the um what you know whe how they felt about each of these characteristics. Statements covered how well the school corporation serves its students, trust in the staff and trustees, the role in community and respondents were asked for their level of agreement with state. So this is what uh these

018look like. And um on your screen, the statements are condensed from the actual statement in the survey and they're presented from top to bottom uh in the order of which one had the highest percentage strongly agree which is blue and a gray which is orange. uh the 93% that you see at the top uh is adding together the blue section strongly agree and the agree section which is the orange. So as you can see with all of these characteristics um or perceptions referenced the agreement levels were very very high. These are the last five uh similar types of statements. And again, people were asked whether they agreed or disagreed uh with each of these characteristics. Again, uh presented in order from strongest agreement to relatively lowest agreement. I say relatively because the one that had

019the lowest level of agreement is still at 79%. Which is very good. Next slide. The next section of the survey was focusing on uh the referendum funding uh and issues uh related to projected school revenue related to the impact of Senate enrolled act one. Uh participants were asked to react to statements about those potential impacts. Nine items were presented. They were done in random order to minimize the bias due to whether something was asked first or last. So this is what people heard. I'm going to read you some statements about how referendum funding impacts the school corporation. For each one, they're asked to tell us whether the information would make them much more likely, somewhat more likely, somewhat less likely or much less likely to support the additional referendum funding offsetting that Senate enrolled act

020one cuts. same type of uh style in terms of what's presented. Uh question 23 maintain programs to help students struggling with core academics. uh had the uh highest percentage of people who said if I knew that that was uh going to be part of the scene that make me much more likely or somewhat more likely. Similar to the other slides that looked like this 90% is adding together the blue and the orange. So that that's the percentage of people who said they would be much more likely or somewhat more likely. Uh the 7% on that top bar is adding together the somewhat less much less. So a good response to these and these are the last five of the similar questions as you can see ranging from 84% much more likely or somewhat more likely.

021Remember what the question is, would knowing this make you more likely or less likely to support a referendum to offset the the cuts that we referenced earlier? Um again, relatively speaking, the question 25 was was somewhat lower, but keep in mind, you're still talking about more than seven out of 10 people in in the positive territory in terms of how they responded. The informed support uh gives somewhat of a a summary of what they've heard so far. In November of this year, registered voters living within the school corporation will have an opportunity to vote on a proposed increase in its reperative funding. tells them what this increase revenue uh would do in terms of offsetting the Senate enrolled act one cuts. Uh the third part of this statement um interestingly was the first time that

022I've uh done a survey um uh where we told them that the taxes might stay the same. they might go down or they or they might go up. Um and uh interestingly the um even though that doesn't tell them very much uh the the overall support as you see on the next slide was was was quite good. So that last statement, now that you heard more about it, uh that referendum funding would increase for for eight years, would you favor or oppose? You can see on the next slide, 70 76% was favorable and and the balance with between opposition and no opinion. Again, this is higher uh than what we typically see. And you see at the the bottom there's a reference to uh informed support from the 20123 survey which was very very close

023to the informed support for one we just did. Next slide. This next section uh is giving you a little bit of a snapshot looking at level of support based on demographic groups. You see the seven that were referenced here. Uh remember remember from earlier in my presentation some of these were controlled. In other words, the parent status uh If uh 16% of registered voters were parents and about 16% the calls were done with parents some of these were of the seven were not controlled in that manner. The charts show what the level of support was after people heard information about each proposal. Next slide. So this is the parent status. Um on the left in the blue 80.9% parents and the definition of a parent is someone who has one or more children uh in

024uh West Lafayette School District attending one of your schools uh right now. So those are your active current parents. If we jump over to the right to the green, these are people who have told us that I don't have any kids in the school corporation now, but I used to have kids in the school corporation. And then in the in the middle are people who said they've never had a child in the school corporation. Um, not surprisingly, I can't remember if there was ever a survey done where where parent support wasn't the highest. Uh, what's a little unusual with your results is the the non-parent and the alumni parent are a little higher than we normally see, which is obviously a good thing. on the left here where we're seeing support based on gender. 90%

025of them females are more supportive than males. That was true in your 2023 survey as well. On the right, you're seeing support based on age. One of the things that's uh fairly common uh and yours came came through in this manner as well. Uh usually support from 65 plus is a little higher than the 55 to 64. And uh experts who have studied that and evaluated that over time uh comment on the fact that oftentimes it's that 55 to where people are in pre-retirement mode. Uh and um a little more uh worried about uh finances and taxes and those types of things. Next slide. Um on the left uh you're seeing support based on past voting activity. Uh this is the reference I made earlier talking about uh we purchased a database that showed how

026many times registered voters voted um out of the last 10 times where they could have voted. Uh the less active and new are people who voted zero to two times out of the last 10. Remembering that that's a combination of voters who for whatever reason don't vote very often uh and 18 year olds who only had perhaps one chance to vote out of the last 10. The active group uh three to five out of the last 10. the very active is six or more. Uh so uh I would put this one in a kind of a good news category also in that the people uh most likely to vote also were the most supportive. On on the right we've got homeowners versus renters. This one shifted a little bit from 2023. Uh in 2023 the

027um the renter was at 87% support uh and the homeowner was at 74. I I don't know you know it's three years difference and we talk to different people this time so you can never know for sure you know why that is but I tell you generally speaking we want as many renters to vote as possible um because they don't pay property taxes and usually um if you can get them in the are more likely to vote yes. Next slide. On the left, you're seeing support based on household income and on the right you're seeing support based on educational attainment. In most of the school surveys that I do, the level of support for higher uh levels of uh schooling usually is the case. Um the note at the bottom of that slide indicates that

028the database that we purchased provided us this information for about half of the surveys that we conducted on the telephone. Next slide. We're shifting now into communications. uh similar to what we did in 2023. We're asking people where they got information about the school corporation where they where they got most of their information. Uh the first question was in broad terms where people told us either printed materials, word of mouth, online or social media. And and then once that was done, then for each of those four groups, those more focused questions to get more information for your communication efforts. So here's our first question. Primary source printed with sources in blue as we go around clockwise word of mouth. online and social media. Now for people who said on this last slide printed sources were

029had there was a follow-up question only to those basically saying what printed sources and as you can see the journal Imperior uh were the the big one uh and notes sent from home to home from a child was the second most for those people who told us I get most of my information from word of mouth which was 130 of the people we interviewed asked people essentially whose mouth are you getting that from friends and neighbors overwhelmingly along with teachers and staff for those people that said I get my information from online sources The followup question was no online sources. This one I would also characterize as as good news because almost twothirds are saying I get it from the good website and of course that's what we put on your website is largely within

030for those who said social media was number one. Here's the social media platforms that were used by the respondents. So, this last section uh goes through the material that I've presented and provide you with some summary statements. Uh informed support was 75.8%. Now, informed support means people got about what was being considered before we took our temperature. We're very close to the informed support in 2023. Uh the uh in that section of the survey people who responded positively was in the 73 to 90% range. negative impacts in the seven to 16% range. These are very strong. The greatest positive impacts were from helping students struggling with core academics and m meaning maintaining competitive compensation. Relatively smaller positive impacts for maintaining class sizes comparisons of per student funding. Next slide. Highest support for renewal uh came

031from voters were 45 to 54 and households with annual income from 75 to 100. Lowest support comparatively from 55 to 64 year olds and those who did not attend college. In that fidelappa Greg the school corporation question 87% gave an A or a B very close to the percentage from 2023 and as I mentioned earlier grades were much better than the national benchmark. also a very strong positive responses grading the financial management of the school corporation. And then you have your comparison to the identical question at the bottom from the 2023 survey with the statements that we asked people to react to in terms of agreement. uh agreement range between 79 and 93 disagreement 4 to 13% highest level of agreement expressed student safety and good value for investments in schools a belief that school

032corporation does a good job involving the community lower than the other topics it's still at 79% which is very No single category dominated in terms of primary sources of information. 33% rely on word of mouth. district has limited control over the accuracy and content face to face and social media communications. Meaning that it's good when people are coming to the district for that information and in that form. And that is it for the overall summary. Um, and I'll I'll stop there. See what questions you have. No, those were those were based on uh the uh profile of registered voters living within the school corporation. and the ones that were controlled for targeting uh were were all very very close within 5%. And as noted earlier in the survey, um the the mathematician that that prepares

033your data does make corrections to the extent that you know if we wanted to be at 19% of a particular group and we were at 23%. The mathematical process that brings that back to what we had targeted. But your targets, as you would look at at the end of the survey, look very good. So, could you go back to the pie chart that talks about uh primary sources of information um that families use because I believe it was the first uh the largest was the website and the second was notes home with students and neither of those are going to be options for referendums. So, I'm a little bit curious about um what other options are because that is not necessarily good news for us. Yeah, >> I think it's back one more. Yeah, >>

034was I'm having a little difficulty knowing if you're commenting or asking me a question. >> Well, I'm just trying to understand what the other options are if we eliminate those two primary. So website was a big one or it was I think it was where I'm not I don't have it up on my device but >> there we go. Okay. Forward and they're presenting questions. That's great. Thank you. That's as long as it's addressed, I'm good. >> So, this is David to add in um when we're talking about the primary sources of information and the breakdowns of each type. We're only talking about four basically a quarter of the population. The one who selected that their primary source is print is is online um or the primary source is written like of those people this

035is where they get get the majority. It doesn't mean that they don't get other news from other sources. >> Yeah. I think That's not what this says. Th this is saying that that's where they get their primary source of information. It doesn't mean that these other things aren't a source of information about the schools. And so um I mean this is a good baseline for understanding where people um get their primary source but they get it from other places as well. >> I I agree with David. I want to I think it's important for us to have that dialogue with Mr. Daylor and and Dave and I agree that that mailer can be very important and has been in the past. So but it's good it's good to bring these things up when he's presenting

036for sure. Can we and can we add for the benefit of Daylor here that um I would be interested to know I mean I I believe one thing that was very successful in our last referendum was our teachers walking um and so I would like to kind of understand how that would play in his estimation of a plan a strategic plan >> I have a list is that okay >> go for it >> all right um Okay. >> Can you hear me? Okay. >> Okay. >> Yes. >> So, just first basic question, what was your overall response rate? >> In terms of uh how many people agreed to >> Yeah. Agreed. >> When they got on the phone, uh the refusal rate was uh around 10% which is >> very very good. >> It's usually

037the other way around on these service. people uh are more likely to be willing to talk to you if you're calling about uh the local the local public schools as compared to other topics. So, >> uh anytime we're, you know, around that 10% or less, we're we're very happy. >> Okay. My next question, um, you compared the percent in favor between this current survey and the 2023 survey. Um, can you I I don't have the data for the, um, 2023 survey. Uh, but are we pretty similar with the nos and the undecideds or are there more solidified nos now or back then? Um, do you have those percentages? They weren't in here. Um the some of the slides had uh comparative data to 2023, >> right? >> When the same question was asked in 2023.

038Um the um the the general response to that question is the the two surveys were were very similar. Uh and um there was nothing that uh jumped off the page as a you know as a critical concern now as compared to um what we saw in 2023. >> Okay. I think it would be helpful if we if we can dig that out somewhere just so we know if there's more solidified or if there are more undecideds how that breaks down compared to last time because that might indicate that we do need more effort in certain areas. Um the next question that I had was um across the perceptions questions that you asked um was it largely the same people who responded less likely to all the questions or were there people who responded less likely

039to certain questions but not others? >> Does that make sense? >> Yes. Um >> like was it basically the same people who are unlikely nothing nothing is going to sway them or um or there different people who different messages might be beneficial for >> yeah it might help for me to give you a a broader context for this. Um I think I have personally been involved in close to 500 um surveys of this nature over the years. And uh the typical or or normal uh percentage of of people who are going to be uh negative and saying I'm I'm going to vote no and I don't support a tax increase. uh typically uh that percentage is somewhere in the in the 15 to 20% range. So um 15 to 20% negative or no is normal.

040And uh as you can see from the data from this survey and also true of the 2023 survey uh you were significantly better than that. Um I don't have um uh specific information on uh you know who were the 12% that were negative on a particular question compared to you know who were the 14% were negative on some other question. Um but given the level of support um after information, you know, in the mid to upper 70s, um you're definitely in a a better position than than the norm. >> Okay, I think that's it with mine. >> That's everything. >> Okay, Lawrence, I see your hand. >> Yeah. Can you hear me? Yes. >> Yeah. You guys have finished the question. I have some question. But uh did you guys finish? >> Yes, please go

041ahead. >> Yeah, I have two question for that. Uh first one but but first of all thank you for the for the surveys. I go through the survey and analysis data is quite decent regorous analysis. I really appreciate thank you for that. And the first question is regarding the margin of error. So my understanding that's 4.8% or something like that. So so how to interpret that kind of u margin for errors in uh in plain English. you wanted to play in English >> because normally I need to explain that to some other constitutes and not everybody get very I mean in statistics so >> so I have to have some uh easily apply English to extend to >> let me give give you a try on that >> okay >> the only way to have

042a zero margin of error uh is if you interview all >> everybody all registered voters. Uh and obviously that's not going to happen. Uh and so the margin of error um changes um based on how many people are interviewed. Uh so if you had if we had done 500 random sample interviews, the the margin of error would have been a little lower than 4.8. If we had done 300, it would be a little higher than 4.8, But again, the way to interpret that is um if if you ask people if they would support a tax increase to offset the legislative cuts and and 50% of the people said yes, I will. Um if you Well, that 50% is the 50% of the 400 that we talked to. But if you add 4 8% to that

043and subtract 4.8. Uh you end up with a range. Uh and there's a 95% chance that the opinions of all registered voters are are in that range. >> Does that help? >> Yeah, that's help. So, back to our uh say 75.8 eight uh so-called informed informed support. So basically if you miners plus that will be something like 71 to uh around 80 uh so percent uh so-cal informed uh informed support. So is that correct interp interpretations of that number? >> Yeah. Yes. So if if you if you had 75% support for your proposal after people got information uh if you add 4.8 to that puts you at 79.9 if you subtract 4.8 date. Uh that gives you your range and as I said uh you know% >> you know what the 400 people said uh

044but uh there's a 95% chance that the opinions of of all registered voters fall in that range. >> Okay. Thank you. I think that's pretty good uh explanation. Thank you. Appreciate. And another things uh I'm trying to questions regarding our CO I don't I don't think we have mentioned specifically uh the rate we are going to use we just say we are going to increase the tax uh but uh in case back down to the say let's say we decide to move on to put that question on November's election and uh we have some numbers uh specific numbers on that uh do Do you think uh what kind of impact of that kind of specific numbers on the final result? >> I don't I don't know if I fully heard and understood your question. Can

045you try it again? >> Yeah. So my understanding is in our survey we didn't mention about the specific numbers how much we are going to increase the referendum. Is that right? >> Correct. >> Yeah. So, we will end up with some specific numbers on the on the November election ballot. And I'm wondering uh once we have that specific number on that, do you think there will be some significant impact on our final result, the election result? I don't know if my comment is going to respond well to your question, so you need to tell me. Um but uh I I think that the biggest challenge for for the school corporation is what I referenced um as I went through the materials where people were told that um your taxes might might go down, they might

046stay the same, they might go up. Um, and you're obviously going to get a different response from people based on which category they they fall into. Uh so I'm I'm hoping that in the uh process of doing the work that Naylor will help you with uh and getting more information um so that people know the you know what the what the answer is before they cast their ballot for their particular circumstance. Okay, thank you. I think you answered my question. Thank you. Appreciate it. That's all from me. Thanks, >> Lawrence. Do you have anything? >> Yeah. >> Go ahead. >> Um, I see in the survey results that you were able to capture whether or not people were renters or homeowners. Do you have any information about whether or not any of the respondents are

047landlords or own multiple properties? >> Have multiple properties. Did you say? Yeah. >> Uh, I do not. >> Is that all? >> Okay, great. I think all of our questions have been answered. Do you have anything? >> No. >> Oh, I'm sorry, David. Hi. Um, based on that, are you able to break down at all in terms of renters who are in what would probably be considered more longer term rentals than uh campus area rentals that may be students going in and out because that might be helpful in terms of whether to target information in one direction or another. >> No, I do not. that u uh if that's something that you feel you need to know, there may be some opportunities to get more information. Uh but the database that we purchase to access

048that information just simply told us if they rent or um if they own. >> Okay. Thanks. >> Okay. that we do. >> I might also mention as we sound like we're getting close to winding down that I provided the administration with three uh survey reports. The one that I just did, uh there's there's another one that goes into much much more detail. Uh so for every question uh we can look and see what did 18 to 24 year olds say, what did women say, what did males say uh for much much more detail uh and then there was also two open-ended questions um and you have a summary of the responses from that as well and and so what I went through today is kind of the big picture overall summary um to give you

049an idea of where you're at, you know, preparing for that decision that you'll make for this fall. >> Okay? >> And I will I'll just say that all of that information is in the board packet. So, if you would like to delve deeper, um that's all there for you. We everything he gave us, we made sure you guys had to. >> All righty. Thank you very much for your time. I really appreciate it. Um that I know a ton of work goes into uh that sort of report. So, thank you. Um are there any questions from any of our other referendum experts who are joining us that um while we're all together here you would like to discuss or? >> If I may, I have a quick question. >> Of course. Uh Don to to

050that point about renters um you are using voter a registered voter database. So therefore the registered voters if you're a student at university for instance you your home your home address may still be your you are registered to vote. So therefore you may not be contacting uh students that would be home to school is is not at school. Correct. >> I'm having some difficulty uh under understanding you. >> I think I think I caught it. What he was asking was if the survey included students at Purdue, they may be registered to vote elsewhere. But I think the first or second question of the survey itself was, are you registered to vote at the address you're answering from or something along those lines or in the West Lafayette school district? Is that correct? >> Uh um

051if if you can get uh college students to uh register to vote uh for your fall election. uh and you can get them in the door, um you're going to have a pretty good chance of getting um a yes vote from from those students. Um it's very very difficult to organize them and motivate them and get them in the door. But uh they're definitely a net plus when when you can or to the extent that you can. >> My question is related to certain though and I guess not uh reaching very many college students because they're not registered to vote in in West Lia. >> That's correct. Uh, the only people that we talked to were registered voters. >> Also, college students don't answer the phone. I've got two. Um, um, is there anything else

052that uh, the four of you would like to ask each other or No, I did I did want to check one more thing. I'm looking through one of the other files, not the one you presented, and there were two questions about the greatest strength and the greatest challenge. I think those were the open-ended questions you referred to. Um, where did where would I find the results from those because it kind of skips from 16 to 19 on me and I don't know where they live. >> One of the three reports I provided to your administrative team included the uh a summary of the results from from those two open-ended questions. >> Okay. So, that's the one that I'm not able to download right now for no reason at all other than technical difficulties are the

053thing. Reload the whole page. Okay. Okay. Let's try that. All righty. >> The greatest challenge was nothing um by 18ish people. Okay. >> Funding by 90ish and high taxes by 40 or 50ish. >> Okay, great. Thank you. I will locate that. Super. I really appreciate all of your time. Uh, gentlemen, thank you for being here. Um, does anyone have anything else for the good of the order? >> Nope. All right. In that case, we'll adjourn. Thank you again. Appreciate it. Have a great evening. And >> as well. Thank you. >> Thank you. We're adjourned.

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