001and federal EOS yeah and I am um really excited to introduce to you all Kevin Gordon and some of you um were here when he's presented to the board before Kevin is the um president of Capital Advisors um he's also a legislative Advocate and just advocate for uh public education um he has such a a great knowledge of of just the political landscape every conference that I go to Every conference that Tina goes to um Kevin is always one of the panelists if not the primary speaker on just the the current landscape of things the other thing is that um both of our employee unions um both CSA and the Teachers Association attend all of um Kevin's budget workshops at the County Office of Education and um and I know everyone just really values um
002your take on things I I personally always feel like when I'm seeing you know like the panelists of experts um I'm always waiting for for you to share because I feel like you you really understand like the the just the mechanics of things and and what the reality is on the ground for schools and so my um the biggest motivation in asking you to be here today is there has been so much um uh you know concern voiced around executive orders um that have recently been passed or signed um and the impact on education and the potential impact on um you know the dissolving of the Department of Education um if that were to happen just what that would look like funding wise for schools um and then also just anything you can update you
003can give us on the state budget and and where are at you know crystal ball wise yeah good and yeah you can do that next yes well it's a pleasure to be here and anytime the superintendent wants you know me to come down and visit with you I'm always happy to do it you guys know the reputation of your superintendent but also you guys know I know you know the reputation of your CBO who's been a Statewide leader is looked upon all across the state as an expert and and we know by the numbers you had when you would do your updates online and that sort of thing I sitting there saying what can I say that Tina can't already say but anyways um but anyways it's a pleasure to be with you um I'm
004going to give you a little bit of an outline of kind of what's going at the federal level and we will touch on state stuff too and try to do it in as compact a time period as possible understanding that we've got community members that maybe have something better to do than listen to me um but you know Madame President members of the board it's a it's a pleasure to be be here in front of you um I just got back the timing is so great because I just got back from Washington DC and I was joking that I was back in DC looking for friends with power and the reason why is because C Capital advisor as a group has a really close relationship with the California delegation both parties but we have really
005strong relationships San Francisco's been a client for many years so we've been close to this to the speaker am Meritus there if any of you have gone to the Coast to Coast Conference at CS PA does we usually ceue up all the speakers that are for that event and know we do this one reception on Capitol Hill in the members dining room and the fact of the matter is is there's a there's obviously dramatic power shift in Washington DC and so there's a decision that we had to make as an education Community which is that as the governor right the day after the election sort of declared war on the current Administration and said you know we're not going to deal with these people and quickly realize with fires and other kinds of issues that
006as advocates regardless of how much we may disagree with what we're hearing out of Washington we have to make an effort to sort of speak truth to power which is to help lay out to them our views about issues and instead of sort of retreating it's really important to try to create an opportunity for doors that we can walk through where they will hear what we have to say about the implications of whatever they're doing on education and again you know what I also like to do is try to to accentuate the areas that I think there might be opportunities where we might agree um say you know there are lots of things we're not crazy about we don't agree with um I think probably the biggest challenge for us in the education Community is
007going to be when there are issues that are being raised by leaders in different quarters of government is sitting in the room with somebody that's doing something where you might be able to influence on an issue that you like but what they are advancing is so morally wrong so incredibly dist ful to you that you don't even want to be in the same room but we got to kind of resist sort of that Temptation and say where are their areas where we they might agree with us and again I'm talking about you know both sides of the aisle you know we got to have those conversations so I went back there with that in mind we ended up having some really good meetings with um Senate staff and house staff uh I met with folks
008on both sides of the aisle Republicans Democrats but I really spent a lot of time trying to meet the folks that are Staffing in particular the new leadership I met with members of Congress that are in charge now in the US Senate and in the house that are doing education policy and if I gave you the bio and the background on some of them honestly I think you would be like oh wow that's good um because you would find out certain things that I think even as Republicans that sort of are markers for balance um in the case of the CH the new chairman in the US Senate was one of the few US senators that's still in the US Senate that actually had voted voted for conviction on the impeachment vote in the US
009Senate and the current new chair of the House of Representatives education committee is one of those few Republicans that had voted for impeachment in the House of Representatives now they're both very much advancing the Viewpoint of the Trump Administration on a lot of different issues and we got to remember there are some things they say that are very appealing and should be to us as governing board members super tenants and people that are in management managing public school districts like this huge big premium on local control the idea of less bureaucracy a focus on kids with disabilities to the extent that they understand that sort of This Disaster that's going on which is fire everybody and get rid of functions without thinking about what that actually means for programs like special ed because I think
010that they gravitate toward special ed they don't want special ed cut but I'm telling them that from a standpoint of structure some of the things they're doing are not going to be good for the very programs they say they support so we've had some back and forth communication since I got back to California of hey let me point out some of the things that don't match what you say but actions that are being taken by your Administration that are contrary to what I think you believe in and showing them whether it's on Career Tech education or special ed or these issues if you want to advance the objectives of this Administration the Trump Administration on some of these things we all agree on here's the right way to approach it and we're trying to help
011him with regard to the executive orders one of the things that I've tried to tell a lot of people is the president made a lot of promises during the campaign we all know what those were and what he has done with the executive orders it's almost like I call it check the box he'll do an executive order that speaks to an issue and there's people people even in my own family who are have been really supportive of this particular president and I I'll hear him say look at how much the president's getting done and I'll my meral response is he's going down his agenda item in making executive orders that call for the government to focus on an issue I'm going to use one as an example but the executive order itself actually doesn't do
012anything so the the the best example there's a couple of them but one of the great examples is the executive order he did on choice in public education the idea that they really would like to steer money that would otherwise go to public education to the parents and families the kids that got their their families that have their kids in private school and you know it's one thing if we knew that marginally you would support public education so there's an excellent education and we have all the resources we need in a public school district and you marginally want to give money out to somebody else too but usually it comes at the expense of public education that's the part where we have some objection to but when you look at the executive order it says
013it orders the secretary to to and the Attorney General to look through all of the power they have and all the programmatic stuff that they have jurisdiction over and say where is there an opportunity to shift money that's currently in in programs at the department toward opportunities for districts and kids that want to offer choice in public education where is that money and can we build that in that we're going to move that money out and and make it for families tax credits or whatever it might be for children options and the thing I chuckled at it when I read the first executive order because um everybody knows that with federal education programs they come as a result of federal law and when they write that law they can't help themselves it has a bunch
014of strings attached to it it has very specific deliverables and usually a lot of Hoops you got to jump through it's all tied down the federal government never we wish they would but never sends US money as a block rant and says spend on whatever you want so so the margin of money the secretary will be able to report back to the White House that says here's the amount of money for Choice should be probably close to zero it's not going to be any resources so when you look at the executive order it's oh the president signed an executive order advancing the idea of choice in public education yeah he did do that but does it do anything and the same is true with the first executive order that called for dismantling the US Department
015of Ed it orders the secretary to do basically report back to the White House and it says I want you to report on everything that you as the secretary which has very vast Authority unilaterally to do all kinds of things wave regulations do all kinds of things what within your power can you do to close functions of the US Department of Ed on your own and what would take an act of Congress so what it's going to be is a report and it'll report on all the things that the secretary can close on her own and there might be considerable number of things there and it'll show the things that take an act of Congress which is a whole another thing including ultimately shutting the US Department of of Education which takes an act of
016Congress and in the US Senate in order to do that it's a 60 vote requirement meaning they're going to have to get seven US senators that are Democrats to vote for it not going to happen so what can they pair down is what that report will look like now in this particular case the combination of the work that Elon Musk is doing and the secretary who announced today her intention was to lay off 50% of the staff at the US Department of Ed you know how does that manifests itself usually in in the quickness of a slow bureaucracy already to respond to the needs that we have in the education Community across the across the country that's the one thing I worry about those bureaucracies are famous for being bureaucratic and if you get rid
017of a bunch of positions how accessible will it be programs and money and things like that so so that's probably the biggest thing I worry about but there's a lot they cannot do they can do executive orders that make pronouncements about issues but probably don't have the effect of law so then finally there was this letter that came out from the office of civil rights this is two weeks ago and it was with regard to the issue of discrimination and enforcement of the Civil Rights Act and they had a lot of opinions in it about what their view of the Civil Rights Act was and they basically were leaning on school districts to do the right thing under their definition in that letter what is true is that as long I I looked at the
018whole letter and I concluded that in the fuzziness of what they wrote that almost every District in this state is probably in full compliance with the Civil Rights Act Now relative to a classic example was do you do a graduation ceremony for Latin next kids and I actually talked to a superintendent that day and I don't know David if I mentioned that example to you but um um it was a superintendent up in in LA county who said Yeah we actually do one of those and I said the question she was real worried about it and I said the question is is there a conference of the diploma officially at that ceremony she goes well not officially it we do that at the regular Graduation Ceremony this is just a celebratory event that we do
019on the weekend and I said is there any District funds that are used for that event and she goes no it's actually paid for by a foundation I said you have zero worry about I said not only that even if you use District funds and even if you reave out a diploma that was given in a in a particular ceremony none of it is against the law under the current law is that he can do the executive order he can do that letter and what it's what it's intended to do probably more than anything is probably to intimidate school districts to do a behavior that's not currently required in law so now depending on the community that you're in and I've said this to superintendant I don't know what communities that you're in but you
020go through and look at what your practices are and if there's slight modifications you can use to the title of things or whatever you're doing and you feel compelled to do that but the truth is if you can if if you're not worried about a civil rights investigation or them opening up an investigation or an inquiry about the district guess what's at the end of the inquiry a conclusion about whether or not you're complying with law and the answer is going to be you are the question about the headline that says they've opened it up an investigation against you is the one that you have to weigh as a governing board as a district about do I really want that and there are some communities where it's I don't want that so I'm going to
021make some adjustments so that I don't bring that upon myself I don't make a Target out of myself now you guys know there's a thousand districts in California alone so it's kind of who they choose to pick on and they are going to go after certain people to try to make an example but at the end of the day it kind of depends on your disposition as a community about how you're going to react to this and then what I would say the safe place is and you guys are a classic example of this that your Viewpoint about all the issues that have been controversial over the last five ten years have always landed on the S of what's the law we will follow the law and if the law does change you guys will
022continue to follow the law and you'll Implement policies that's in obviously compliance with the law and the problem for this White House is their ability to change the law is going to be very very difficult on a lot of these issues so they'll go down the agenda of things they will try to advance their agenda without change of the law because they're going to have a hard time doing it and see what kind of progress they make and frankly I think all across the country they're going to make a lot of progress without changing the law just by putting out these executive orders and getting communities to say oh I need to change something because they're saying I need to change it so we're trying to get make sure people understand you as a governing
023board have a lot more latitude than you might think you have based on the stuff that's coming down now the part that scares me the most is with regard to funding and and we saw an action today it was a classic example of that so the the continue resolution that was passed by Congress today basically says we're going to operate on essentially the same dollar amounts that we operate on the prior that's generally good news I mean normally what I really like about the federal government process for budgeting up until now is that if you can convince them to do what they do best which is nothing then you'll get the prior year budget you won't get cut because that's the way the system works it doesn't work like that in California with the legislature
024but it does with the federal government and when they cannot agree and they simply can just push out the timeline because they can't agree you get the prior year budget so when you're in administration where can get more money for key things that we really value you want to do that but when you're in a situation where education funding is threatened and might get be cut you love the idea of continuing resolution because it protects us from reductions what's in this bill however were all kinds of references to appropriation levels including across all the things we care about Title One the title program special edit and everything like that and it is level funding all the way through to September so for the current fiscal year and going well into the next fiscal year we
025don't really have anything to worry about I think but the problem with the CR they call it CR is that it gives latitude that hasn't existed before for the president to move money around any way he wants that's really unprecedented is that they've sort of created these slush funds in big categories where he can move money all over the place and one of the arguments is that he can actually move money out of what we call domestic discretionary funding over to defense which isn't normally something that's allowed to be done so there's concern about that and then there's concern about the next fiscal year because even though our fiscal year starts July 1 the federal fiscal year starts in October is to the extent that that when they start debating what they want to appropriate
026to us in the following fiscal year there's a process normally we're protected by that's that 60 vote threshold where they can't mess with our programs without getting 60 votes in support in the US Senate except by a process called reconciliation which is simple majority vote and they are moving in the direction to try to structure it so they can just use that process called reconciliation Democrats have used it and Republicans have and if you follow a very strict set of rules which they look like they're lining up to do then they can cut as much as they want in a lot of different areas now in the meeting that I had I had a really good meeting with the new Special Assistant the president for Education that 's this position that exists in the White
027House and Tina I think you've met with that person in the past um under the prior administrations and I worked with the the person that had that role in the prior Trump Administration we've worked with them under Obama and under Biden but this gentleman got this appointment and he's there and he basically will have an enormous amount of power in the in sort of the way he works through these issues and basically what they were saying is that even though Congress the House of Representatives ran an effort a year ago to cut Title One by 80% which is crazy those are the programs for kids in poverty for the benefit of the audience um 80% cut to that program that starts to affect California districts in a really big way that's a lot of money
028but um they were he was saying to me that if you take a look at the totality of money that's in title one it's about $18 billion across the whole country that's the budget if you look at all of special ed about 156 billion dollars for the whole thing for the whole country and you take a look at student loan the debt programs as well as uh pel grants $1.6 trillion so he said there's a lot of latitude for us to get to the targets we want 120 billion is the Target that the House of Representatives has to do cuts if they go through reconciliation process and I just that's just breathtaking to me to cut that kind of money out of education but it likely will the they think will not be a target
029of the programs that we're all sort of really focused on Title One and some of these other things the other lesson is last year they were able to get Republicans were able to get the cut out of the House of Representatives committee but they never got it off the floor well they had a majority of members well the reason why they didn't get off the floor is because they realized in Republican districts all across the country a lot of forids a lot of Title One in those districts so in their own self-interest and I totally respect this they were saying we don't want to cut title one so to the extent that title one and some of the title programs in special ed do get insulated going into next full year I think will be
030good I am not an advocate of districts taking budget action predicated on the threat of might happen at the federal level because it's just so fuzzy right now there are issues going on with your budget in here in the state of California and the state legislature that would create caution for you but at the level we just kind have to watch it real carefully and then keep you apprised of what's Happening along the way so that's kind of the federal picture which I think all in all it's probably better news than you might have thought so a lot of executive orders a lot of noise being made probably doesn't have the force of law number one and then one issue to worry about would be funding but where they're going to focus to get the
031kind of dollars they have are probably not going to be on some of the major funding streams grants are a problem there are a lot of Grant programs districts have gotten we had there was a grant up in a republican District up north that was for kids transitioning from a traditional uh special ed type program into a more inclusive environment in which we've use that term for years in special ed when when we're trying to transition kids obviously into a regular classroom and that's good public policy right move special ed kids when they're ready and they're it's appropriate into a regular setting with other kids and and there's some big grants the federal government has well they're chopping all those grants off because it has the wrong words yep you know and it's just like
032inclusion and transition it's just insane and it's like you guys probably heard about the anola gay you know aircraft where they're not showing the picture anymore because it has the word gay in it and you know it's it's overreacting to terminology that maybe the disposition of administration and that's their right to have that position but when they apply it using some algorithm they're clipping off really important programs that have nothing to do with whatever their agenda is and that was the case in this case so we have alerted folks again with this Administration who we think are really sympathetic specializ to say hey thought maybe you went a little too far on these grants can you look into it and the answer has been yeah let's Che let's check it out so you know and
033we're gonna have to do that a lot that's a lot of work to go back and try to make those things right but that that'll be where most of our work is at the federal level yeah it's I really appreciate the um like the focus on uh educating and opening doors that can be opened um I I think that exactly what you're saying in terms of the terminology like e even if we go back to um I don't know how maybe it was just a week ago but it feels like it was six months ago but if we go back and we think about like the the pause that was placed on federal dollars and and kind of that whole you know panic and then it was you know really quickly well no we're not
034trying to cut the VA we're not trying to cut you know all these well those are all federal programs you know um and I feel like the same exists in the world of uh Dei because um you know the thing that's so interesting when you look at all of this is there's definitely a focus from the administration and a dislike for Dei in relation to what that means in the military and what that means in the corporate world but when we talk about diversity inclusion equity in the school the context of elementary school like there's no one that's not in favor of those things because we're talking about simply giving our kids what they need it's not about um any of what it would mean in in you know those other areas and I think
035there's so much just education that needs to happen I just feel like this conviction of we're Educators so we should be in the mode of educating because I think that it's exactly as shallow as that where there's just some Mis I mean we've been dealing with it as a school district for the last five years of um you know the concerns about whether or not um there is um a CRT being implemented in schools or what um you know what we mean by the term equity and that sort of thing and it's just like this translation of no I know that people are using this language over here that that's not what we mean and you know that's why we we don't really put even the letters together to have like a a a Dei
036program or something like that because it's all embedded all throughout the work of education and not only education but also just like like having handicap spots out in front of the mall and you know like there's all sorts of stuff around Ada and like those are the most Dei things that this country does but people aren't relating it to that because there's so much political just I mean honestly just nonsense and misunderstanding in terms of what it means in our context I just feel like that's the education that we need to be doing and I remember you sharing Kevin in Trump's first Administration that you guys had an audience with the Secretary of Education um because no one else wanted to talk to to the Secretary of Education and then when you got in to
037talk to her like she was so open to hearing all about spe very concerned about special ed very concerned that we're improving Special Ed I I think the same thing like special ed the most Dei of all programs in a school district is like we're giving these kids what they need that's different than what all of the other kids need in the school right and and we're doing everything we can to include them them so that we know like we're all children here at the school like we all love each other we're all a part of the same and I just don't know a parent in the world that doesn't believe in those things right you know even though they may think they don't believe in those things because they're so caught up in the
038politics of it right but it's like that's the education I feel like we need to be doing with people yeah it's it's it's literally taking words that mean one thing and ascribing a a really sharp partisan label to word to mean something else and then holding everybody accountable to what is the ugliest definition in their view of that and so it's just and at the end of the day the thing that I try to emphasize that the president has talked about and the people around him do you really believe in local control because everything you're doing actually is counter to that is what you want to control local communities to be doing now the other issue is is that in one of the very first executive orders that talked about if you're doing this that
039and the other thing with federal dollars we're not going to allow you to do that well that was the other thing I was thought was kind of humorous is that all those strands of money that come from the federal government are for very particular things and if there was any Boogeyman they thought was getting funded with federal dollars you could probably sign a form that said we won't use federal dollars because you're not because you're using it for very specific kinds of deliverables and you're doing whatever else you're doing that they might object to probably with local money which you have a right to do so we'll see kind of where this goes I mean we know also there is double speak in the administration between the president will say something one day Elon Musk
040will say something another day Elon Musk has said he believes that the federal government should not be contributing a penny to public education well that's a problem they say we believe in local control we want to turn the control of our schools back to local communities but the but the the real meaning of that is you don't want to have to pay for it and well hold on a second if you want to write a check tomorrow of all the money we send you and let us deal with it and we don't have to deal with you as US Department of Ed bring that on we're totally happy with that idea because we'll have more money if you take a look at California's share of the contribution of tax tax dollars back there it's crazy
041so send us the block grant of all the money that you would otherwise would get come out on a per kid basis that's got rules around it and we'll definitely decide that so you know again there's ways in in the in the first Trump Administration there was an audience to hear some of that messaging and we're looking for that again we want to have people hear us I am really encouraged by Congressman Wahlberg who's the chairman in the House of Representatives Republican chair who said I have not served on this committee for 13 years to eviscerate public education and he goes and I'd like to see special ed fully funded that's the chairman of the committee in the house so there's something to celebrate there I'm trying to get him to come to the coast
042to coast event that we're doing with Californians in Washington DC because I think that message would be very well received I want that event to be an event that has people from both parties I don't want people just an echo chamber of us talking to people who have no power they give good speeches but they don't control anything so we need to make sure that there's balance in what we hear so a little bit and I'm I'm definitely taking too much time on the state front good news on the state front it's kind of an interesting budget and it really comes down to that there's a constitutional provision in the budget that was put there by a ballot measure prop 98 that all of you guys understand but for the sake of the community prop
04398 is the mandatory amount of money a minimum amount of money that has to be spent on on TK through community colleges every year and because of the guarantees that are in that ballot measure and because of them not honoring the full amount that was required in Prior years there's a trigger in the Constitution says hey if you can't afford to give us all the money you would otherwise owe us you do have to make us the first call on new money when you can afford it well we just went through a couple of really weird years in terms of big budget gaps it's triggering that trigger is happening now because more money is coming in than expected by a pretty healthy amount more money and guess who's the main recipient of the benefit of
044that is the education Community the non-school side of the budget for the State of California has like a$ 20 billion hole in it so they're actually going to be making cuts and shifts and adjustments on the non-school side where on the school side we know for sure we're looking at a change to the positive of about 7.1 billion dollar between this year and next year well all that news got a little bit better by several billions of dollars in terms of the overall health of the state budget but again those people that are on the non-school side are not all that thrilled because we are the beneficiaries again of the additional extra money money it'll go into restoring a rainy day fund that we have for education that needs to be filled back up again
045that bucket and it'll manifest itself in one-time money that we get for districts around the state on a per kid basis we know that we're going to get the recipients of our per pupil amount of $1.8 billion and you guys will get that in this district one time so that it doesn't really help you with budget cuts and other things you're doing that are that are systemic budget problems but it gives you onetime breathing room that's nice and then there's 1.6 billion the governor's been holding back which we think is not constitutional that we say you need you to spend that on us too it is one time as well we now know because we can count the votes in the legislature we've met with members of the budget subcommittee for education in both houses
046and none of them are going to vote in favor of holding the money back they're all in favor of appropriating the money so that's going to get appropriated I wish it would be added to the 1.8 block grant so that we get a 3.4 four billion doll blockout that would be the best but all of them have ideas on oh I want to fund this or I want to fund that so some of that's going to get peeled away some of it will go into making the block rant bigger I think but then so there's 1.8 1.6 that's all onetime money and then there's the increase permanent increase in money that will fund a cost of living adjustment which I think is a pathetic cost of living adjustment by the way but there's some modest
047permanent increases that we'll get in the budget it's good to have but the governor remains committed to TK he remains committed to uh uh expanded learning opportunity programs Universal meal programs all those things he's invested billions in all that's going to be fully funded and that's what we do with a permanent ongoing money but within the last two weeks we've gotten news about the budget that will increase the amount of money we probably see even in the one time Beyond those two piles of money I was telling you about and there will probably be implications for on ongoing money as well we just don't know what it is Our advice is always never be budgeting beyond what you see in the governor's January budget and even be careful with that so I always say I
048I want a budget based on the money I know is coming in where's the green money that's actually showed up not the optimism of something that's kind of in the future and while it's great to have that optimism and I think things will turn out good you guys obviously have an obligation where you can't be budgeting on money you don't have and then with regard to lofs and I know you guys have been going through that I always like to point out particularly the community that we have in the law in California requirements that you have to do that says that you have to send out layoff notice if you think there's any possibility that your budget's going to be upside down in the coming year and the language was put there by our labor
049Partners so the Teachers Association and most recently the classi association went to the legislature and said we want that protection we want layoff notices in March and we're like in March we don't even know the what the budget is yet why would you want to put yourself through that strain and Agony that early when we don't know numbers because you're putting the board in a situation where the board has a fiduciary obligation to guard against what the fiscal uncertainty will be in the future and if you don't do the layoff notice you can't lay anybody off after you hear what your budget is and the budget's upside down you're in trouble so I I'm always reminding communities about this that it's the fault of our in Sacramento and other people that Force you guys to
050deal with layoffs when you would otherwise not want to do a single layoff till you know what kind of money you have but you don't have the luxury of that that timeline now the argument that our employee groups make and it's totally legit the reason why they want March is because in the event that they do we do get an ugly budget and they have to they want to know that they have time to look for something else but even if you're an employee in a district you're not GNA start looking for something else till you know the district doesn't have the money to fund you so you're probably waiting till June anyway so you know it's just sort of there's a two-edged sword to that whole process but I want to make sure people
051are aware of it and I'm going to stop there and see if you guys have any questions yeah any thoughts or questions there's a lot sorry thank you um I I don't have any questions right now it's good maybe I do good anybody else I think I'm gonna agree with what David was saying about the education part because um when the campaigns were going on um I was you know well obviously I'm from California but I had to go to North Carolina and it was a huge different um way of that things were being presented in North Carolina and I started to realize I'm like okay well this is why you guys think this way and then you know then we got stuck in Texas and then we were there and and I started to
052see again the campaigning and I'm like wait this isn't true like what's going on so I think when you say about the education part um there is a lot of people that don't understand um like what you're here to tell us right I wish there was a lot of people that I knew were sitting here so they could hear you um but I think that education part I don't know how that could be brought on for our parents um so they know um but yes I I completely understand how when you the further east you go the different this it's like playing telephone that's kind of how it message at the beginning compared to the message at the end yeah and I was like wait what wait excuse me yeah so it's I I hope
053somehow we could figure that out yeah yeah sorry I realized I do have a question um it's more of a clarification making sure that I understand just how everything works um with the federal budget um they are they need to pass something it sounds like the house passed something today um that is the continuing res resolution or this the CR um and that needs to be passed by both houses and signed by Friday my understanding correct so Senate has not acted yet correct and that's going to be and that funds us really just through the rest of this FIS this Federal fiscal year you got it so then you mentioned that they'll likely be setting things up to do reconciliation bills and that will be for next year's funding and that will be in September
054that they'll be doing that so really like we don't know what's going to be funded for next year until September right well that reconciliation process actually will happen sooner if they if they get their wish which is that they want to start working on it but it would go into effect October one uh for that next fiscal year so we're going to know in the next you know eight weeks probably what's happening on their ability to actually do deeper cuts and will we able to see whether and handicap it about whether or not they're going to be able to get them or because there's also a decision that's made interestingly by the clerk of the house it's the parliamentarian actually of the house about and I think it's actually the US Senate that makes a
055decision about whether or not what they're doing actually abides by the rules for reconciliation and they will call them on it and there's nothing anybody can do including the president when that parliamentarian says I'm sorry I'm not letting you do this because you're not following the rules then they get stopped in their tracks and they have to think of another way to go about however they want to do this so that that hasn't happened yet so there's a lot to happen but you're right on regarding it's it's in the future and it's not going to happen in a way that's going to be able to be reflected in the budget you guys put together yeah and then I know that sometimes because you know that's that's 15 to 20% of our budget is the is
056federal um and so you know the bulk of our budget is State money and that a lot of the times they don't pass the budget until the the wire which is also in terms of actually incorporating things into our budget too late for us to incorporate things into our budget I know that sometimes the push on that is based on I know last year I think think it was because you know there's the the floods and delayed tax dollars and whatnot and I believe there's going to be delayed tax dollars again for um uh the Los Angeles fires and so do we have and it's only March but do we have any indication on if that's the state budget is also going to take a while to get figured out yeah is we were really
057nervous about it so they have delayed the tax filing obligation of all taxpayers in LA and Ventura County well that's more than 20% of all taxpayers so our worry was the last time the state budget writers did a budget without having all the information about taxes they actually had no information because everybody got to wait to file taxes till what ended up being November they started a fiscal year first time in the history of the state of California we started a budget year spending money passing a budget and spending money not having a clue about how much was going to come in really weird and they guessed really badly were really off to the tune of it was the biggest budget crisis we've ever had 70 billion problem so what we're hoping is and what
058a lot of the folks in Sacramento were just talking about slicing over open envelopes and looking at quarterly returns of rich people and they said oh my they were really shocked at what's going on trend line to the good so they like the Trends they also believe that the percentage is so low the overwhelming majority of taxpayers will give them a much more educated guess about what's happening to revenues than they would otherwise have so they're fairly confident that they're going to gauge this right we'll see thank you yeah great questions so Kevin the coast to coast that you mentioned in Washington DC is that the um csba correct csba andaa and have you guys done it before anybody I'll be going this oh that's great definitely remind me when you're back there and we'll
059make sure that you You' seeing the right people yeah I'll reach out to you and because Tina was going to do casos and and was sick and so um I'll reach out to you about if it would make sense for any of us to go to one of my views about that event and it's a great event to go to because a lot of people will come to you but the biggest frustration of the people that go is you fly back to Washington DC to try to make a difference right try to be heard by people and they stage up and we help them get their speakers these great speakers so you'll hear from we got you know Javier Basera who's a cabinet secretary and we got um you know speaker Pelosi did do something
060we got just a lot of great speakers to come in and talk is I always say but understand being in a hotel room a hotel Ballroom in Washington DC is not any different than being a hotel Ballroom here and you have these great speakers and there's 300 people in the room where do you get to make a difference so it's really important and we're happy to help you guys is you know I'm we invented this event on Capitol Hill in the members private dining room for an event where we brought members of Congress in from all over the state and all the board members got to interact with real congressmen face Toof face and I was saying you got to get them out out of that hotel and over to the capital where you can
061actually meet elected officials and people that make a difference right so we're GNA do the same thing again this year but we should be looking for opportunities for you to go up to Capitol Hill and visit members of Congress that are from the San Diego delegation and you know have that impact but I always say don't stop there now it's going to be a little more difficult under this administration because they're cutting everybody but typically I would say you know if you guys have school transportation issues go see the US Department of Transportation people go to their member of Congress but they forget that Transportation or Health and Human Services or EPA or whatever the agency is it's amazing every agency does something that ends up having an impact on our kids and you can
062lo you can go in and have a conversation with them about those impacts and it can do great great things so when you get the opportunity to go back there try you know we can help you try to make the most of it yeah great thank you all so much pleasure being here thanks thank you