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Hazel Park School District - Board of Education Budget Hearing - June 16th, 2025

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2025-06-17
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Oakland County, MI
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5,099 words · about 29 min
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2026-06-07

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001budget hearing to order at 5:03 p.m. on June 16th, 2025 at the administration building. Approval of the agenda. I make a motion. I'm sorry. Roll call. Peton here. Becker here. Fortress present. Fox here. Leon boys here. Richie here. Hinton here. Now approval of the agenda, please. I make a motion to approve the agenda as written. Support. Motion and supported to approve the agenda. Any discussion? Roll call, please. Fortress, yes. Ratit, yes. Beaton, yes. Becker, yes. Lefr boys, yes. Fox, yes. Hinton, yes. Next is public comment. Um, this is a business meeting of the board of education held in public, but not a public community meeting. The board has two opportunities to be for the public to address the board respectfully. I see no one approaching the podium. So, we'll move on to new business, truth

002and taxation. Are you ready? Okay, great. Uh, so I wanted to start off uh this before I turn it over to Monica and um Crystal to say first of all, I just want to say what a great job that they've done in a short period of time of having to turn around um the current budget uh with things coming in and out. Um the inability to get into um our former former business manager files until just a couple weeks ago. Uh that was held from them. So, they didn't have any of the backup in the history. And then I also want to say that the 2526 um budget that you will get tonight is far from what it should be given the fact that we don't know what state aid is. We don't know what

003uh our students are and we have not um had the time to go through zerobased practices. Um it was just a rollover. So, I I want to say that in public over and over and over again. It is just a estimation of a starting point um of where we need to be and and the team uh the central office team has worked very hard to start uh eliminating positions as we can in combining roles in order to save the district and we'll talk a little bit about where those are and um but just kudos great job and please uh think about some of those questions that you might have but but do know that even the 2425 end budget may have some changes in the next couple weeks and then the 2526 will have great

004changes and we've got some plans that we will share with you that we're going to do along the way so that we keep the the board updated on an ongoing basis. So without further ado, thank you and good evening. Um oh here's Crystal. Uh I'll give her a little reprieve so she can catch her breath coming in. All right. Oh, um Crystal, you can give those to Jamie because I don't think we need those until the next meeting. Okay. Okay. So, um our first slide and I guess let's see right here. Going through looking at the 2425 budget um for revenues. We went through and we reviewed state aid and grant allocations. uh and we went through line by line um and making sure we could account for any final adjustments that are known. Um

005I think every time state aid is like evened out the next month this is something's very different. So based on what we knew as of the May state aid um that's what the budget reflects. We reviewed center program budgets uh and updated the interfund transfers as they're allowed. we are able to transfer for rent and indirect costs. So that was uh reflected on the general fund and center program budget. And then we reviewed other miscellaneous revenue items um just if anything else was out of line and and looking at where everything was at as far as revenue. Okay. So um with the expense um so what we did is we re reviewed all the employees positions in the district and then we took the actual incurred cost today and added in the projected remaining costs

006um including the fringes. So we essentially did a forecast with um with the employees and what they're expected to earn until the end of the school year or at the end of their contract period. Um we also reviewed the current expensure uh expenses and projections through the end of the year taking into account any known approvals that would need to be accounted for. In addition, the net of the changes that we made um left us with a $1.326 million deficit within the year. Um now again for right um I was thinking okay um so the $1.3 million that we saw a decrease um we see uh $1.1 million was in 51c special ed uh state aid revenue. We found out in late May that we were deducted $511,000 on GSRP. Um, and we have already

007talked about ways that we can know that there that change would be coming well in advance of getting hit with that. Um, so we will be ahead of that change next year. Uh, 31A state aid revenues. Uh we did a true up to that and that was a deduction of 388,000. We although we did just receive a delinquent property tax check, we still um our delinquent taxes have increased. So um we saw a reduction in the budget uh for 240,000 for that. and the center program uh they had some excess fund balance and with the adjustment of the indirect transfers and rent uh general fund actually saw a pickup of 385,000 and uh then we have some invest in MCA expense offsets. So, um, when we give them the revenue that they have for the

008pupil allowance, um, we will deduct the cash that we give them for what they owe us back for. And so, that was a pickup of 528,000 in revenue. Um, so if we go to this slide, they'll show um our original budget for 2425. uh we projected we would have a deficit of 500 just about 530,000 with an ending fund balance of 463,000. Our last amendment we thought that we would be 440,000 uh favorable and with our existing fund balance we would have been left with 1.4 million. Uh unfortunately the changes we just talked about on the previous slide uh those totaled 1.76 million. So we are looking right now at a deficit of 1.3 million for this year for our operating. Um I highly doubt it will come in anywhere near that as we you

009know wrap up grants and hopefully there's additional revenue that we'll be able to recognize. Um and there are some things where we'll see extra funding, you know, a fifth payment for PA18 or other sources where um we think that will come in a little bit better. Uh but right now uh as it's budgeted, we would have for the 25 year um a deficit fund balance of 333,000. Okay, Crystal. Excuse me. Um, in regards to the other revenues bond budgets, um, food service, child care, and special education, um, as you'll see, first off, this is this is, um, not all inclusive cuz as of uh, what Monica said, you know, we still have funds that will come in um, even late until the end of uh, school year, whether July or August, that we still need

010to account for and all that would be reflected on the audit. Um so this is just again why we're going through this is the um preliminary to the uh final budget. So with the food service we are um seeing a negative balance 75,000. Um this also includes um the um from the cafe remodel the cafeteria model that we did um that ate up some of it. So, what we're doing um as we're going through our books and club now year end, we're seeing where we can actually adjust some of those costs and maybe have the seeking fund pick up some of that. Um and then the childcare fund, again, we kind of expected the expenses to be a little bit over, but we um do have a little bit of a fund balance that that

011can um cover. And then with our center fund, um we have the 2.1 million, but again, we're waiting on, as Monica said, some um tuition payments that are coming in in addition to some PA18. So 1.3 million um PA18 um about 200,000 um in addition to anything else that could be um pending. Um PA18s can possibly sometimes give you an extra payment as well that we're waiting on um to see exactly what that is. I'm going to just add to that. Um, we know for sure we won't be seeing a $2.1 million deficit in the center fund. There were a couple things that came into play. The expenses were overbudgeted um and also included a lot of vacant positions. We have to keep the budget in our system at what the final approved budget was.

012So this budget number represents um a lot of vacant positions, expenses that won't happen. And there was one calculation error in the workbook that overstated the cost for paras. Um so this looks much worse than what the reality will be. Um but just because we have to leave the budget as it is and there was a a a revenue adjustment in there. So, um, the expenses are overstated, but the revenue saw the adjustment. Oh, I guess I'll keep it. The next one's me. I have a quick question. Sorry. Sure. So, this general fund budget does not include the other revenue fund budgets. That's a whole separate deal, correct? Okay. Okay. So for 26 um just a few highlights of what we included or what the assumptions were in the budget. Again I want to emphasize

013that um this is not a zerobased budget which would be ideal and that's what we're going to actually work toward over the summer to get to a better place. Um historically I think the budgets have been rolled and perhaps a inflation factor or percentage has been put onto it. I want to start at zero and put in what we know we need so that we're not continually rolling additional costs that that we don't really know are in the budget. Um so that's where we will get to. But currently what you're seeing is just a roll forward budget. And then we did make a couple of assumptions and some changes um as we knew. So for the assumptions, we projected a $350 per pupil foundation increase which totaled 2.25 million. Of that uh 1.7 would go

014to general fund and the 540 would go to the center program. uh we projected federal and state funding outside of the per pupil amount to be flat and for enrollment to be flat. And on that I should say, you know, we we paid and we had to earlier in the year um for enrollment projections because we had to do that for our uh early warning monitoring reporting. Um I did not have access to I think uh Dr. Krooppy has a great historical file that they use for enrollment um trending and projections. Uh so now that she's back and and we have the file um that showed the exact same results as what the enrollment reporting did. So um uh I think the good part on that is that we do have good numbers we're using

015here. Um we were conservative with our estimates and adjustments. Uh so we know that there's some things will be more favorable but we don't want to make it look potentially better than it would be. So uh air on the side of caution and we're conservative with things. We did make changes for some of the pieces that we knew would be occurring. Um $918,000 increase in expense for staffing steps. This was teachers and paras um the custodial maintenance any any union that had a settled contract. It does not include administrative non-union or secretaries. Um and we didn't step each person individually. We just represented as a 3% increase. uh we removed the grant carryover and prior year state aid revenue. So that was about 2.4 million that came out of the budget. Uh and then again

016the 1.7 million increase from the state aid foundation. So were you using the $10,000 number? Yes, it's just below 10,000. be uh what we 9608 and then we added 350. So, and what was the account enrollment count that you used? Um I used Yeah. So, it was the um uh 2900. I don't have the exact number, but it was from our uh May state aid report. Is that the report that you sent us this weekend? Oh, no. That report was the enrollment study that was done that says use flat. So she used the actual number on the state aid uh count. So we get a state aid note every month and the numbers will be up there that you should use. So it's it's flat. It's what was used last year too. It's a little

017less than 3,000. It's not too short. 2019. Yeah. What is it? 29. I believe it was 29.92 but don't quote me on that. But it's only a little less than 3,000. Perfect. Perfect. Thank you. So for reductions or I like to think of efficiencies um that we've already talked about or are in the process of putting in place. Um and I say in the process because I believe at least one of the things will be voted on tonight. So um we know though our interest expense uh for borrowing will be lower next year. So we've reduced that by 220,000. We have reduced audit fees by 60,000. Uh we should not be paying more than 75,000 this year. So um almost in half. We we we reduced attorney fees by 56,000 and professional development uh which

018I believe Stephanie was this through ARC. Okay. that was reduced 75,000. Uh we removed cost for interim staff which would be um Matt Miller support and the interim superintendent. We removed cost for Battel for kids which is our portrait of a learner and um that's we will have paid for everything by the end of this year. Is that right? Sorry. Okay. Yeah. Okay. uh Yukaroo trainer reduction. Um that was a $10,000 savings. Uh power schools expense reduction. Um so we no longer have any of the startup or implementation cost. It's just our annual uh service fee. So that went down uh that expense went down 32,000. And then we have uh this is more of more of the list. um 692,000 in uh staffing changes. We reduced the number of varsity assistant coaches by 10,000.

019So that was a $10,000 reduction. So what did we do? Can you talk a little bit more in detail on what you're doing like on the attorney fees? How do we reduce them? What are we what's the plan? Well, the plan is we won't have two investigations next year. So, um, no, it just we know that we're seeing higher attorney fees this year than what we normally would. So, we brought it back down more to what our normal levels would be. So, these are not adjustments and costs. These are costs that we know that we had this year that we know we will not have in 2026. So, with all of those up there, um, what we did is talk as a team specifically about that. So, the cost of having Matt Miller and um

020an interim superintendent was 160 grand. The cost of the attorney fees outside of what we utilized to run the business was 56,000. So, this period of time from January on was 56,000. That's how we kind of looked at this. And then, um so that's how we talked about it as a team. What are some things that were in the last year's budget that caused increases that we wouldn't have to do or we hope we don't have to do next year? Of course, if we do, then that's where we are. We know we already paid for a portrait of a learner. Um, we know that while we would love to have some of that professional development, we've been doing it for several years, so we feel like we can utilize our coaches to facilitate that. UK

021RU, I think we talked about that at the last meeting, we had many coaches. We're going down to two coaches. So this this is just if you remember our first run and then on the 21st we will bring to you more suggestions um that are aligned with things such as we're not filling third classrooms till we get uh student enrollment in. Right? So we're holding really tight and even though the principles want to do it before they leave, we're like nope you can't fill that third fifth grade until we get closer to that. Um we know through scheduling at the junior high there's a potential reduction of another PE coach. We know that at the high school, Tammy shared there's two positions that she believes that she can reduce, but she's finishing up those schedules

022and will get back to us. It's all somewhat natural attrition. There isn't letting go of any teachers. And I think that's important to say. You know, what we're trying to do is pull reductions way up high or something that's happening naturally. So, for example, we know that there's a teacher potentially living leaving at the high school. Tammy's already pulled that in to remove that class from the schedule and able to move the kids around um and do that. And we know that we have some substitutes that we might come back in that we pay substitute cost and um and also uh health insurance. We may choose to not do that anymore and bring that to you on the 21st. Then we'll ask you with some more ideas and then on the 22nd we'll bring it

023back. So we've developed a list to see how close we get to go to. Um, and we also will hope at that point in time also that the state will have given us what our funding is and then we can at least project a little closer because I think the number we're using is the lowest even lower than the 10,000 mark which should leave us some wiggle room as well as the meeting I was at on Monday felt like 10,000 was going to be like the base line that was going to happen and that 31A in that um special ed cost would probably remain the same in the midst of this battling out. We'll know more as we come in. I hope that was helpful. And now we have no surprises on the upcoming slides.

024No. Um, thank you. That was helpful. Uh, so the last piece we were looking at says reduce or eliminate open positions. Um, we reduced the K12 supervisor. Um and she's going to be moved to the middle school as principal. Um the assistant superintendent secretary we've eliminated two office paras teacher the secondary instructional coach and I believe that's one where there was a retirement. So, we've restructured um another coach to cover the high school and middle school. Uh advantage elementary position was eliminated. Uh and I think that was no longer needed and moved to a different school. Okay. Um and then BBA at the high school to change to a PAR position. Um those are all salaries without benefits, correct? Correct. Yes. So there's more wiggle room. Right. You're being conservative with it. So that 692

025is strictly pay, not fringe or anything else. I have another quick question. The eliminated advantage position because it wasn't needed. Um do we have a different Did we only have one advantage elementary classroom? So we started the year with two and a parah and that teacher took uh medical leave and so the kids were moved into one classroom and the parah was then not filled there. They moved to another position. So for part of the year we had one classroom those students were transitioned back to the school and that person went to the junior high and supported the girls junior high that will be reduced this year. So So we'll have none. We'll have none at the elementary. Yes. And that's how it functioned for half a year from January on. Any other questions on

026that? If you take the salary, would you um so you get the full thinking about how much we're saving, would you add 30% to that? 55%. Thank you. So, we chose not to do that, but bring that to you um in July when we come through because our hope is is that we'll be able to go back and start rebuilding our schools by function, right, and by that area so that we can see exactly the cost and the benefits at that point in time. Thank you. Um this slide shows the state aid per student summary. Um, and maybe what I should add for the future is the actual amount, so we can see it on the graph, but um, so 9958 is where we're projecting we would be for 26. Um, and 24 and 25

027are both um, flat at 9608. And this just shows our enrollment trends. So, we're showing the same uh enrollment for 26 as 25. Oh, sorry, Crystal. I'm hogging all the slides. Uh, so for 26, our initial budget, we're projecting 59 million in revenues, 61 million in expenditures for a deficit of 1.7 million. Now again this is the 25 budget we rolled and just made those minimal changes. So um we will have a better number going forward but as of these numbers we would be showing a deficit of 2 million at the end of next year. So, in order to be off the state list, what does it have? I mean, it has to be a five, but um it has to be a five. I So, actually, let me answer part of that without the

028answer. So, I've asked Monica to go back and talk to Treasury because I don't believe that you are on um a deficit elimination list until it's several years. So, um, you will still have to check in and be on the watch list, but there's a threshold, I believe in the back of my head, that's not what we had time for today to make sure we had everything ready for you of three years. We don't project a $2 million deficit. We have several positions that we already know that are in our head that we're watching very carefully. We've gone through that as a team. Um, at the building level based upon enrollment, so if the enrollment doesn't come in, right, those go down. We might raise class sizes just a little bit, but not too much.

029We don't want it to be out of hand. Um, but we also don't want to get class sizes of 14 and 15 at the elementary school if you don't have three. So, we're watching that on a regular basis. And, um, and so we'll bring that stuff to you after we know what those numbers are. I want to remind you in last several years, one, we projected one thing and it came in another. Sometimes not the way we wanted it, but usually it's a little more or a little less. Um, we believe we're extremely conservative on that and we've made some changes immediately for next year that'll help facilitate and we are holding changes as they come. And I want to again say on this film, we are not firing teachers. We are not letting teachers

030pair professionals going. We believe there'll be a natural attrition and some areas that um that I think everybody learned that you got to watch out along the way because um like the ISD didn't give you the early childhood numbers until May. Well, what are you going to do about it then? So, you have to put in your calendar in December to look and see what your numbers are and make a projection about what that's going to be and then make changes from there. So, um, you know, there I believe I I'm going in my heart of that we're going to be at zero for uh the beginning fund balance for this year and then we'll be able to share through some collaborative conversations about you as a board. What are some things that you're thinking

031about, here's what we're thinking about and work through that in July. We would love for that to happen in February and March of a following year. Um, but it isn't. And so this is where we are and we believe we're we're making good moves to direct that in a positive direction. And this is just showing a history of our general fund revenue and expenditures. Um so since uh 23 uh our after that actually our revenue has been lower than our expenditures. So, this has been trending in this direction and there's not really much else on there. Okay. So, in regards to the um um fund budgets, uh special fund budgets um for the 2526, again um I know that we've repeated it over and over again, but this is just a rolling budget from what

032we projected for 2425. So, again, these aren't um necessarily hard numbers and as we go along, as Dr. Koopy said, you know, in Ap or um sorry, July and even then on when we have our um budget meetings and then amendments, you'll have um more accurate numbers and then seeing what we can do to adjust things. But again, the food service fund um from the rollover projections, we're expecting uh um a negative balance with 267,000. Um with the childcare, we're still in the positive. it just the 83 just dipped into what we already had as far as um the previous fund balance and special um the center fund again rollover balances we're still expecting you know other revenues to come in and again none of that will necessarily reflect until the audit is complete um

033so essentially again um it's just a rollover uh budget can can I ask um we didn't get a chance to see this earlier as they were just finishing these fund balances. Um, did we withdraw from the food service the construction costs out of that? That's still reflected. Okay. So, I want to make sure that that that will be a significant change because we don't have any construction going on this summer for the food service. Actually, I'm sorry. It was taken out of the expense budget. So, that's not reflected there, but it is still reflected in the um deficit beginning balance. Okay. And that will change once we close that out. So, I have another question. Um, pretend these numbers are real. Just pretend. Um, so for the $75,000, which was the end of last year

034or the end of this year, sorry, and the 267, which would be next year's, how does that get covered? You have to take it out of the general fund, you know, but we've never had that in my 10 years that I've been here, and we haven't been able to dig into that number. And so that's what I'm suspect of that number. So the same of the special education that would be have to be transferred out of the general fund to cover those expenses. We have to have 7% in that account. Um and so we'd have to have at least 7% but again they're giving you actually where there are we are not at 2.1 million. They just they can't change it. Yes. I understand that. Yes. If they were real we would that happens it'd

035have to come out of general fund. So that is not reflected necessarily in this general fund budget because we're anticipating those numbers are not going to change. Correct. I mean, you are going to change that. Correct. Okay. And I believe what you've seen in the special education fund before is that they would manually change that budget and that's what they would put up there and not put actually where we are right now, right? They would show you because they've been doing it for a long time. They would put it in there and make it look differently than what it actually is at this moment. Okay. So, for our next steps, uh we'll work throughout the summer to get actual enrollment. Um and like we've said, that will determine uh some of our class size or

036if we need to add um some teachers. We're waiting for the state budget adoption. That could be in the next few weeks or few months. We don't know. Um the big focus and what will really help us though is is closing out the books and preparing for the audit and that will help us to know where we're where we'll be sitting. And then the business office and board collaboration for budget changes July 21st and 22nd. We will bring budget updates to the board in August and October. I don't think we'll have full information in August to bring you a full budget amendment, but we will um update you fully on and everything that's known at the time and how that changes where we're at with the budget. Uh and then we'll do our first budget

037amendment in December. We'll know state aid and grant funding where we're at by then. Uh we will continue to monitor grant expenditures and we are going to go through line by line and review the budget um back to our our zerobased budgeting and uh see where we can make some changes. Can we talk a little bit what it looks like to have budget updates versus an amendment so we can be real clear how accurate that really is. Okay. Does do you understand what I'm asking? What the difference? Yeah. Yeah. So, we will bring you the same level of information, but it'll be a matter of this is what's known and still are unknowns and the impact it'll have on the budget, but we won't have a resolution at that time to adopt um where we're

038at because there'll still be quite a few um unknowns uh at that point. So, we'll give you all of the information as as if you were adopting the budget, you know, for updates, but we're not going to have a resolution for that. And the unknown, just to clarify a little bit, can be anything from state aid changes um that we can account for um position additional position um vacancies um that we potentially, you know, won't be filling or or you know, bringing teachers in, not teachers, I'm sorry, but others in a different um um rate or whatnot. So that's what she means in regards to that or what we mean. Um and in addition to that so we will be looking closely at the positions for reassignment of duties um any opportunities that we can

039um get. So for instance um the administrative assistant to the super to the assistant superintendent um those duties you know are being split amongst Jamie Dr. Kroo, um, Monica, and then even, you know, council payable can pick up some of the the, uh, extra work that was being done there. So, um, and it's going all across the board, but I'm just giving you that one example. Um, um, and I want to say what's important to note is that, um, when we are eliminating positions or combining, it doesn't mean we don't need that position. It's not necessarily in every case sustainable long term, but it's what we think we need to do now to get us um to better place financially. Uh I I'm pretty sure I'll go out on a limb and say Chuck won't

040want to be communications and athletic director for 10 years, but I think that we're fortunate that he's willing to do that so that we can get through um and get to a positive fund balance. And it's going to take a couple years for us to get our feet back on the right track. And I and um if you're not aware, uh school districts around us in Oakland County have done significant staffing cuts to long-term teachers because of their concerns with the flow of the money coming in. And um and so we've been fortunate over the years to not have to do that uh since before I came that natural attrition kind of helped us walk through that. I think that will be the same now. We've had some retirements and such, but we all know

041that we've all taken on additional items and as the, you know, funding has flowed, it's been uh much better for work life balance, but we also need to remember what that does to our staff as far as burning them out. So, we have to be careful along the way. Um, but right now, it's what we have to do in order to successfully walk forward and and make the cuts where it makes sense. Um just wanted to highlight that um we are working with Treasury. They have a grant for reimbursement for expenses. Um and we've submitted probably about $500,000 worth. Doesn't mean that that's what we're getting. It is in review. Um and we should have an update hopefully by early July. It is something that we've done in the past when we were in deficit

042and received about 100,000. Um so we're just hoping that with what we submitted um we'll get a little bit more and that'll help offset um if you know not if we break even to zero might even put us back into the the positive. So it goes on the 2425 because it's reimbursement for things that we've already expended. Okay. But what exactly is it? It's a grant that you file through the Treasury Department to recoup because we're in deficit. Yep. We used to get a 100,000 each year for that and they they give you certain things. Um, and it's not as well I think the story was right. It's not as well known right now. So, as more districts are going to go into deficit, you might not get that amount of money. When times get

043rough, this is what they do. And times are rough. Um, and so we submitted every single thing that we could think about. We just kept brainstorming back and forth. What are things that we have this year that wasn't covered with a grant and that wasn't put somewhere else or, you know, and that's what we came up with a lot of items that um that was submitted and hopefully they're going to reimburse those. Yeah. What is the name of that grant? It It's not really a grant. They kind of refer to it as that. Um they just call it a reimbursement. They have called it a reimbursement grant. Um so they have a pot of money that they can use for this this year. They said they are not guaranteed every year that they have that

044and they expect a large influx of districts that would be eligible next year. So, um it's restricted on what we could apply for. We got creative um not knowing how much they'll have and depending on how much other districts submitted for. We don't know how much of the So, what can you apply for? What are the items? Uh it there was some things with professional development, some things that they a project or an initiative that could bring financial savings to the district. So, one of the things that we put through were were the um trauma-informed school training that that goes handinhand with our seclusion and restraint policy. Um and we will we have seen really effectiveness from that uh financially and um you know with our students and staff. Um so we put in costs

045for that for training for uh Ukaroo um anything associated with that. Um any um some of the board trainings that have not been reimbursed um some of the superintendent memberships or workshops, finance uh trainings or workshops. um we put in for some software things um under the you know that will help us get more financially stable even if we had an one-year offset for some of the costs. So we know we won't get it all but we were creative and dug as deep as we could to get as much in front of them as as we could. The long story short is they know that this is what's going to be happening ongoing if we don't fix our financial structure for education. And so while we're on the front end of this, there's a lot

046of districts are coming right behind us. And so, um, you know, we're thankful that that was an offer and we just sat down and looked at every dime that we could thinking about what could qualify as things that are helping you become financially sound and that's reflected for the this this school year. Mhm. It kind of reminds me of the -ray program that uh we replaced our phone system. Um went from AT&T to I mean we we gave us like $3 million one year um for -ay and we applied for switches and wireless system. That's how we were able to start upgrading our our equipment in that and then slowly as you needed you they kind of like this you know less and less and less as you got things situated. You know, I remember

047that one of the stories was Detroit schools, they would buy a server for every student, classroom students, so that way they could uh, you know, utilize that funding. Well, they got caught because you can't have a server for every student. So, I mean, it's it's a good thing and I'm glad that the the government is recognizing that. I mean, I I think a key here is the sky is not falling. The sky is is dreary. There's some fog that's coming up, but I believe working together, we will work this through. We've done this before. Um, you know, it'll be a little tighter. We're going to look at some supplies and such and maybe take away the Amazon uh ordering so that we order a little more b in bulk and look at kind of savings

048that that does. So maybe we the accounts payable is also accounts receivable so that that person's checking in everything and you know going through. So just really tightening up um our processes even more so in our business office. But that again means people are going to be taking on extra work. If anyone have any additional questions or have questions, comments, anybody before your questions, I just want to say these ladies worked around the clock for the last two weeks on the weekends into 3:00 in the morning to bring things the next day. And so I just want to thank both of them. Um, it's been a pleasure working with them and and listening to our back and forth banter on different ideas and I just kudos to both of you. You were pretty pretty amazing.

049So, thank you. Can I also say speaking on the Google sheet is that why you said 3:00 in the morning? I just heard you were up till 3:00 in the morning. I seen I seen you pop on there for a second. Listen, it's been a concern for us. Um, and that's why we just again want to say, okay, that's the number. Don't buy that number. let's get our time in July and August working together to kind of see where we are and see where we're going. Then, you know, we can say, "Oh boy, you know, like we're going to have to make some deeper deeper cuts." Um, but I I believe that it'll come together. It always does. And I think the bigger key is very positive leadership happening, very positive board leadership happening. Uh

050seeing and showing our community what a great school district this is to be a part of and the experience and the great outcomes that we've been able to provide over the last 10 years with doctors, nurses, um you know, we've got great kids that are doing so many great things. The Promise Zone has lifted that up. We've got welders. We've got all kinds of great things coming out and in showing our community things like early middle college that we're doing that is available and so lots of positive that's what we got to do to remind our community about how great Hazel Park is. So I just want to say thank you to a lot of hard work there and very detailed is very informational. So thank you for that. Thank you. Motion to adjurnn. Motion

051to adjurnn. We we do have sandwiches in Jamie's office if you wanted to pick a sandwich and chips and you know chips. There'll be a motion to journ second. Yeah, I'll second. Take a second to get those sandwiches. Go get the Go get the sandwiches and chips.

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