0015:30. Are we ready? I didn't notice. Call the board of education committee of the whole meeting to order at 5:35 on April 14th, 2025. Roll call, please. Eden here. Becker here. Fortress present. Fox here, here. Ratique here, here. Good evening to our audience and to our board uh tonight. It's nice to see you out on this beautiful evening. Um I have approval of the agendas next. I make a motion to approve the agenda with tableabling um the therapy dog policy. support. Um motion made by Heidi to uh agenda amended to remove the dog policy uh to later date and second by April. Any discussion? No discussion. Okay. Roll calls. Yes. Yes. Becker. Yes. Fox. Yes. Yes. Yes. So, public comment is next. I have uh Dana Richardson. Anybody wishing to speak needs to fill out
002a form and you have five minutes. Miss Richardson under our new policy and we need your call your name and address. Dusen 23457. Um I am the director of the dance teams, the Hazel Park dance teams. I know this evening the dance teams are on the agenda and I just wanted to say a few words regarding our program. I would like to personally thank you for allowing the program to grow in a positive direction partly because we have been open to other districts which has allowed 12 amazing families to be a part of our dance family. I was not the director when the decision was made but understand it was for a 2-year period which is now up. I would like to request that these 12 families be grandfathered into my program. These dancers and
003their families have become an amazing positive part of our program. I'd also I had a whole bunch wrote down, but I'd also like to read something that was um sent to me today by one of the parents. As a parent of an out of district dancer, we would be devastated if she were no longer able to dance with her fam dance family. I say dance family because that is exactly what they are. Dancing on the Starlights has given my daughter an opportunity to create bonds that are stronger than most friendships kids create by just attending schools together. It has given her an opportunity to build relationships with peers who share a common interest and love for a sport. As an out of district parent, I stepped up when the Starlets needed help when other parents
004were unable. I attended all competitions, helped the girls with makeup, hair changes, keeping them together and safe. Dancing for the Starlets has allowed my daughter to gain a type of confidence I could never have imagined. After losing her father, a Hazelback graduate a few years ago, it was hard for her to find a group in a space in which she felt safe. Being a part of the Starlets gave her that safe space and allowed her to connect with the children of people who grew up and knew her dad well. Without the Starlet, I worry her confidence in herself will start to dwindle. Um, that was kind of the gist of what I wanted the board to know is that we are becoming a family. We are a family. and we all are there for each
005other and I think she just put it in much better words than I ever could. Um I also would like to clear up a few rumors that I've heard over the last few weeks regarding the or our program when it was opened. Um one of the rumors that I've heard is that we've never or that we have um cut out out of or in district answers for out of district answers. I just want to assure you that that has never happened. The way that we do the judging is I bring in outside people. There's four outside people. Some of them have danced for Hazel Park 15, 20 years ago and no longer know anybody in the program. Um the girls all wear numbers. We don't know what school they go to any of that. So
006that has never happened. Beside the fact that we can take as many as we want. We can have 20 girls on a team which for us the larger the team the better. Um, the other kind of rumor or comment that was made to me is that it's cost the district more to have out of district kids in. If we remove those 12 dancers from our program, we still have the five coaches. I still have I mean, we have 47 dancers total. So, it doesn't cost the district anymore. We still have the five coaches. Um, now on a positive note, I would like to share because I've never gotten up to speak um, regarding our program, but we have a lot of amazing things that are going on within our program. Um, this year our junior
007high team won grand champs, all three competitions that we went to. Um, we took five soloists to nationals. We had two place, which we've not placed. Hazel Park has not placed in solos in seven years. Um, we had Emmy Lynn, who is a baby bike. She placed second. And then we had Allison, who is a starlet, who placed third. Um, they're also United Oak students, so we're we're very proud of them. Um, I also want to do a shout out to all of my amazing coaches. Some of them are here today. Um, at this point, we now have all of our coaches are Hazar graduates, and they all have danced and come up through our through our program. Um, I am so so proud of them. Couldn't do this without them. They are amazing with
008all of our dancers, with our parents, our families, everything. Um, and I just wanted to give a shout out to them today. So, thank you for your time. I appreciate it. Thank Thank you very much. That was great information. And it's later on our agenda for discussion. So, thank you for that. That was very good. I have Don McGinness next to speak. 13 years of East Grand Park. I'm here to discuss some of the procedures and all that, how they uh affect these kids and how they're set in place. Um, I want to talk about, you know, as a coach, I'm there for these kids to fight for them all the way when they're not heard. And I'm here today to talk about an individual that I know that has helped out with the Junior
009Vikings who's been part of it. He's a senior. He's struggling. He had an incident in the school and I'm trying to get him back into school. And I would personally vouch for him as not only a, you know, as a parent, as a wrestling coach, as a volunteer and all that. Um, and uh, I'm not going to go all into details and all that right now with it. I just want to make sure that you guys know I got his back and I'm here to support him 100%. And then I'll do some more closing on it here soon about it. So, thank you. Thank you. Uh, next, any other public comment? Moving on, we need a motion to adjourn to close session. I make a motion to adjurnn to close session. I'll second it. You
010got a I have to read all that. Yeah. Motion to recess to close session under section 81B to consider the dismissal, suspension or disciplining of a student if the public body is part of the school district, intermediate school district or institution of higher education that the student is attending and if the student or student parent regarding requests a close session hearing. I'll second. Okay. So motion by Debbie to clo go to close session for 81B consideration dismissal and the suspension of a student and seconded by Darren. Any discussion? Oh call. Yes. Fox. Yes. Yes. Becker. Yes. Forress. Yes. Rati. Yes. Hinton. Yes. We're going to your office. I feel like I've been run out of my truck. [Music] That's how I feel, too. waiting in the hospital and you Yeah, I'm sure it was two
011or three semis for you. Can you imagine taking an 84y old one to the last very last appointment? What was our sugar down to zero? Just a lady. Yeah. Crazy. [Music] always sitting in my shaking those legs. Yes, I do and I catch it out of the corner of my eye. I I do. [Music] valuable player. Not sure this is going to curb my belly or loud in there. She is out of town, but Kevin is here. Oh. Oh. Oh, I'm sorry. Yes, they're here. I know. I know. Need a motion to call the meeting back to order. A motion to call the meeting back to order. Second. Okay. Motion made by Monica. Second by Darren to call the meeting back to order. Any discussion? Okay. Roll call. Richie. Yes. Fox here. I mean yes.
012I'm already here. Yes. Becker. Yes. Yes. The Brown boys. Yes, yes, Madame President, I would like to move to uphold the administrative decision to change the academic placement of the appellent student. [Music] Is there a second? Okay. Motion by Darren, second by Debbie to uphold the administrative report. Any discussion? Can you read that again? I'm sorry. I move to uphold the administrative decision to change the academic placement of the appellent student. Okay. I feel like that's confusing to me. We're upholding the current decision, correct? Right. Okay. Any discussion? Okay. Roll call. Fox, yes. The boys, yes. Beaten, yes. Beggar, yes. Fortress, no. Hinton, no. Richie, yes. Uh 52 vote. Uh the recommendation stands as it was presented. Next is personnel administrator contracts. Did you want to Did you want to talk to him? I talked
013to him before. Okay. We came back. Okay. Administrator contracts is next discussion. I have a number of things to discuss about the contracts. I don't know if you would want me to go first or Okay. There's a lot of it is uh like typo problems or um things that I think was overlooked before it actually got uploaded. So here it goes. Um the file name for Mr. Wilkins should be 25 202527. Okay. So it file file uh goes with the rest of the file name. Okay. Yeah. It just makes more sense. Check those on everything. It's it's little things that I found. So it's not, you know, um and also if it after the um salary amount says for the 2025, it should be for the 2025 26 school year. 26. Okay. Yeah, cuz it's
014everybody's or No, that's just his cuz his says proof read them again. His says 2020. His says 2062 or something like that. Okay. Yeah. So I just Yeah. I mean, I would take him till 65, I guess, you know, but um he's never retiring. He was in my department, so I mean, it'd be a bonus, right? He doesn't retire. Uh the does all of the administrators have the correct certification certificates that they need to be administrators? Now, I'm not talking about central office. I'm talking about the principles. Um, building principles are all within the MDE rules and regulations. Yes. Okay. Um, so the current MDE rule is that you have uh 3 years and 6 months to earn your administrator contract after you've been placed. Okay. Um, so anybody who's currently placed as an administrator
015either has it or is on their way to earning it within that time period. Okay. So, you just get a a certificate, a like a permit or something. Permit. That's what I was thinking of the wording. Yes. Okay. So, that helps with that. Um, why is so I I don't know if is Mr. Patterson still there? He left. Um, he's right there. Oh, is he? Okay. I I just I am I allowed to talk in a public discussion. Can I talk about somebody who has a contract in the amount of questioning the amount of money that they're listed in the contract? I mean, it is those dollar amounts were approved last year. What's that? The dollar amounts that are on there were approved last year. Approved last year when we did the pay increases last
016summer. That's what the That's what the dollar amounts are with what we had approved last summer. Okay. I just wonder why Charles is low. Why Why is he like the lowest office? That's just my, you know, we want to keep him here. So, are you recommending that we offer just him an increase? I think that we need to verify and check surrounding school districts to see his particular position and maybe come back to us to say, well, in these five different schools, this communications person is getting this because I don't want I don't want Charles to sorry, Charles to up and leave, you know, because he's not getting Would you like me to do that for the rest of the administrators as well? No, I think Charles is good. Just that one, not our uh
017business director that we've been talking about as well. Well, that probably should be because that was talked about before my time. I don't think I was here at that when they hired it. So, yeah, there would be it would be nice to have a report on that too and see, you know, on those two. Could could we hold off on some of that since we don't know how much money we have that it's not clear before we go? Everybody just got five Everybody just got 5% last year. And we have a uh we have to pay four. It's a big number this year because we have to keep it up. So you're thinking leave it alone right now. Yes. Please leave it alone right now. The amount of money and then just maybe readress it
018in September or something when we find out after the next audit. Yes. The fiscal we need to we have a week before we vote on this. And so if we're going to vote at that amount of money, no. I think we need to get answers before next week and make some consideration. I mean, if we vote on it next week, he's going to get the amount of money that's in there. I'd like to hear the finance report tonight before we Oh, you're thinking about tableabling this whole thing. The There are no increases in these. There's no increases. These are aligned with the um pay. You were just asking for an increase I thought for Charles because I think that 84 is too much. But you just said we should wait and I said okay too
019much because then Miss Kale's asking we should increase other people. Oh the question was did you want me to look into make sure that the um that the amounts are aligned for all of the positions? No. and I said right now and I said no just Charles and the business person because I wasn't here for the business person but I think I'm just more concerned about Charles but we we can pass that just don't waste your time on that I guess um we'll just move on and we'll address that after the next audit. Um, so in his contract it should be 2527 for the the head the the title the the file name and then inside just so that we don't have to waste a whole like that we don't have to take up a
020whole bunch of time with that. Do you want to send me a list of it or I can go through it you know with what you send me and just do a double check instead of just like saying hey I could I didn't know what the Yeah, I didn't know what the procedure is. I was just you have it. I'll just take it and then go. Okay. is there's a number of them that are not right and uh sure I will take that list and fix them all for you. So are we basically just extending the contract by one year? Is that what's happening? Yeah, I did see um one in here and I I thought I saw it and they they've not been here. Thought I saw anything. Well, typically the the past we
021would only you would only do if the administrator was here for a year, the end of this school year, then you would extend them to the end of the following school year. Yeah. So, Julie goes into that category. So, we should only give her No, she's been here one full year. Actually, I don't I don't know. Julie came like in September. Oh, I apologize. I thought she came in July last year, but she's been here one full year. Okay, good. Perfect. That helps. If you're talking about our latest fire, we would extend to the um 2526 school year as well. We would add the one year on, which is I think what the contract says. Um, there's a person that's been here 3 months and there's two people that have been here 8 months. And
022I thought we needed to discuss this because they don't have a year and they're getting extended for another year after being here for 3 months. You just need to think about it before next Monday. Yeah. The one I'm looking at is on page 30 of the book and um it's extending for two years and not one so that we're not talking about particular people. Would you like to email me the names? Sure, I can do that. And I'm okay with renewing just one, not two, because I believe they still have the year probationary period. Okay. and I will send you my uh email with Thank you, Darren. Yeah, that would make make it easier for me. Do you have something, Debbie? I spent two hours going through it. I appreciate that. I was in a
023hurry. That's okay. I had a lot of things going on last week. Anything else about contract? Oh, that's enough. Thank you for taking the time to Okay. Additional pair pro for United Oaks Elementary. question I have for that is, is it going to be general fund or is it special ed? Uh, these are general fund dollars even though um they're working with a special ed student. Well, it's not center. Well, I mean, yeah, it's still general fund out of the It's not center if that's what you're at United a student that is in one of our uh classrooms at United need that support based off of their IEP. Yeah, I I just I know we have to have parapro and it's according to the IEP, but I just wondered if we could squeeze it out
024of special ed somehow. Any questions about this? This you did say that it was required by an IEP. Mhm. So, this is to provide an offer of faith. They correct? It's required. Okay. Okay. No questions. Next is licensed practical nurse for Webster. Same thing with the funding for that. What funding are we going to use for that? General is general. Again, this is this is um we have some students that have some significant health needs in that building, particularly according to their IEP. And in order to offer them a free and appropriate public education, uh we have a responsibility to um uphold those health supports um by a licensed practical nurse. Um and so one of our district nurses or both of them um Shaun Jasmine will be able to oversee this individual uh to
025ensure that they're providing those supports as well within that building. So we can't move one of the nurses we already have into that position. Correct. because of the nature of need of the particular student and or students. Um we have students in there I may give an example that have um maybe have uh G tubes or feeding tubes or TRAS that necessitate the need for somebody to be on staff at all times while they're in the building. So that would potentially take away from our RNs that would be supporting other buildings throughout the school day. Our RNs are only one and a half right now as well. So we have one full-time and one halftime. So we wouldn't even have that to spare. Okay. So they're supporting the entire district, all of the health plans
026for every student in the whole district. Do we expect these IEPs to carry over into the next school year? I ju just given the date that we'll be approving this, are these these are students that will attend Webster and or Hazel Park Elementary School next year? That is that is the expectation. Okay. Of course, if a family moves, we can't Yeah. I mean, you can't stand it, but I'm just thinking it will be late April if we're thinking that this is, you know, preschool academy versus GSRP that they might be around. Correct. And also add uh that LPN at Webster would also be supporting other health needs in that building. So, we'll be utilizing that person not only just particularly for one or two students, but they will be able to support other needs in
027the building. You know, any scrapes, falls, um students with diabetes, asthma, all those things, they'll be able to support in that nature as well. Anybody else? I didn't see a a a rate of pay. It says my what? Okay, that's a great question. Um, we have not hired an LPN before. We have not. So, from my understanding, we have spoken with um with our current RNs before and talked about a rate of pay. Um, can I bring that back to you Monday? Yeah, that's great. Or maybe before Monday. Um, I know we spoken about like what a going rate is because we have some contract CNAs. So, this is like a next level up, right? So, we'll talk about um what appropriate rate of pay for the memo for Monday. Yeah, for sure. Awesome. Thank
028you. Yeah, it wouldn't go along with the salary schedule of the pairs though. So, yeah. Well, potach depends on I think it would probably best we'll get that number. Yeah, I'll work on that with Sean and Jasmine for appropriate. Okay, we're good. Thank you. Administrative sick time payout. So, this one um page two gives the actual calculation. So, this similarly to what we did for our building administrators. uh we have a central office administrator who left their unit to become our central office administrator. Um therefore uh forfeiting um you know they would be forced to forfeit any of their earned sick time payout as a a member of that unit. Um so we are asking as you did for the um building administrators that you would do this for this administrator as well. Um, this
029would be if solely determined on what the rate of pay at the time that they left the unit was, which was back in 2017. So, not like what the rate of pay isn't now or anything like that. Um, and it's just basically saying, okay, at that point when you left in 2017, that money is frozen in time. Should you retire, um, this is what that payout would be for that portion of your, um, career with us. Is this particular person retiring this year? No. No, but because we did this for the administrators and kind of put a line in the sand for the for the rest of the administrators, um we thought it was appropriate to bring this administrator forth as well. And right now it's only one just yeah we don't have anybody else
030who fits in um who previously served in the units um prior to moving to central office that would receive a payout um greater than what is currently the central office administrator payout which I think um is capped at like $5,000 for like so many days at whatever it is it's it's capped um so nobody would fit into that um that category. Does this administrator plan on retiring within the next two years? Three years. I don't think two or three. No, I I don't remember their exact amount of time, but I don't think it's within the next two or three years. I think it's a little bit longer than that because our building admins are either retiring this year or next year that we voted on. Well, so I don't know. We had all of the
031building admins listed. Just if you remember, we had all of the building admins listed on that spreadsheet, not just the couple that are retiring. Um, it was everybody and kind of just drawing the line in the sand for all of those people at once um that had been part of the staff prior to becoming administrators. Okay, I'll have to go back. That was in March and I don't I wasn't present here. Yeah, the whole the whole um building administration staff was listed on that spreadsheet. had they worked for us as a um as a teacher before they were an administrator. Any more questions? Thank you, Christie. Okay. All right. Um policy use of seclusion and restraint. Additional language Okay. Um Kevin Avlock, supervisor of student services. So I work with Dr. Vazian. This past year
032we have um started our seclusion and restraint reduction uh committee. And through our committee, our community stakeholders, so parents, advocates, uh we had moved through those meetings and talked about um what does seclusion restraint mean for Hazel Park Schools? Uh and if you look at the memo that's been provided to you, it will really indicate talking about the uh need for emergency seclusion and restraint as an imminent threat for a student or those uh around them. Um and so that's really what that uh update to that policy would represent. So I Googled the policy, not Google, looked up the policy, right? So you're only adding those two bullet points at the bottom. Rest is exactly the same. That's my understanding. Correct. which is definitions. Who wants a definition? Questions? Anybody? I guess I'm confused on
033why this is in a memo format and not the the actual actual um policy because it has to go through a first read and a second read before it is approved. So maybe we can get that 100% at and do it as a first grade. Maybe make the update a different color so we know that Yep. what's changed. Yeah, that will be easy to do. Thank you. Thank you. So the first read be next sorry next week or we going to try and Yeah, I think first read can be next week. I mean it looks like it's only a couple lines of updated. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. So, the therapy dog part's not there, but um it's under policy. So, I want to read this. This is um I thought we table therapy dog.
034We did. Okay. This is therapy dog is on there, but we're not doing it. Okay. But it does say policy. So, um want to read this because we're in limbo about what policy company and what we should do about policies and they're very important. This is another national school board book and one chapter is on policy and it says the board is accountable to its citizens for the way schools are governed and managed and ultimately the results achieved. Specific board policies exist for several reasons. Many policies are derived from legal precedents, federal and state statutes or mandated rules. However, policies can and should reflect local values and principles designed to address the local needs of what the board cares about. And I'm also reading this because there's discussion over the cost. And I think this
035is explaining that these are very, very important to how our district runs. Governing through policy is not simply updating a policy manual once every few years. Boards have constant opportunities to shape, mold, and modify their district's future through discussion, debate, and thoughtful consideration of important issues contained in board policy. Boards with a thorough understanding of policy development and implementation can be powerfully effective. On the other hand, a board that neglects the evolution of its policies is not keenly mindful of their value. The board also essentially fails in their responsibility. A board dedicated to strong written policies understands that is not responsible for managing but fully embraces the responsibility of governing. So I just thought it was important. There's a worksheet in here. There's I don't know 20 things listed here. What makes effective policies and
036how to accomplish those? We got a list from Miss Kales of the districts and what policies they have. Um, if you notice, no one in Oakland County has Clark Hill and Gross Point has Clark Hill. They they don't have Miller Johnson. But I think it stands out when you have 27 school districts that don't have Clark Hill. So, any other comments on policy? We still have to decide. We have to decide the amount. I know we talked about Mr. Patterson working on it. I know it came up about money, about having attorneys. Currently, that's not in his job description to do policy. So, I think we still need to work through some issues on this and come to a a conclusion because they're important. They're very important. Have you talked to Clark Hill about listening
037to our questions or I didn't talk to Clark Hill this week because I was wrapped into youth assistance. We had a recognition with like 200 kids and parents there. So I will still need to talk to CLA. Thank you. Longfellow update. Craig, do you want me to uh rattle that off? Okay. So, uh progress continues to be made. There's been uh a neat relationship between the contractors there as well as Greg's staff. Uh meaning Greg's been able to identify some things that need to be pulled out if they're old or the wood is is not in good shape. Um, and so our people will pull things out and then the contractors will follow and paint um um and repair anything that may be needed before painting. So, I really feel like we're getting the bang
038for our buck. Um, the roof is almost complete. We're uh going through and and painting doors all the same color. Um, so it's really taking shape and we're excited to work so closely with the contractors who are there. Was it a full roof? Say that again. Was it a full roof or not? No, just portion. Sure didn't look like it. Um, who's the project coordinator? There was a big crew over there. Yeah, they've been there all week. Is do we have a project coordinator or His name is Greg. Hi Greg. Good job. Um and similarly, uh Greg's also been staying on top of the high school Edison and United or uh United Oaks door project. And he estimates the work is 97% done. Most of the new doors have been installed. The hardware has also
039been installed at those three schools. They're only waiting uh for the door supplier to provide a few more pieces of hardware on a small handful of doors. Um there were two addendums that needed to be done and uh one of those doors um and the and then 10 other at the high school are set to be delivered in May. Um there's also one additional door that's being delivered in May for United Oaks. So that project should be wrapping up next month and that is going to be a huge increase in our level of safety for students so that um they can lock appropriately their uh on their hinges and it's it's a it's a really nice thing to be able to have that done. So thank you Greg. I got a questions on buildings and
040grounds real quick only because I know that um fifth graders are getting ready to go up to Camp Hazelwood. I was just wondering on the um I know there's no maintenance people currently living on the property. Um so I was wondering what the maintenance is on that before those kids get up there and what's being done. Could could I find out the answer to that and Greg Greg can speak on it. Can you come up to the microphone? Thank you. They went out Thursday to open up the cabins. do all the landscape there. You're going up Thursday. We're going to keep the house um locked down though cuz we're going to keep it closed. But all the water should be running. Grass should be cut. Um heat should be up and running. Everything should be
041good by Thursday. So the cabins in the pavilion cleaned and ready. Thursday should be up and running. Okay. So you're spending the whole day Thursday up there? Yes, I'm sending two guys up there. Okay. Awesome. Thank you, Greg. You're welcome. Did you win? Yeah, they did. Yes, we did. Yes, we did. All right. Thank you. 18. So, on to finance. We have our budget amendment. [Music] Hello. Okay. Okay. So, as you can see on here for our uh amended to budget um for 2425 school year um for the local revenue, the uh district's um the district's local revenue is generated from several sources um including property taxes, the United Way grants, um athletic gate receipts, preschool tuition, Balmer grant, um MVCA, and medical uh Medicaid reimbursements. Uh we do have some concerns regarding the property
042tax revenue. Um currently we are budgeted at 95%. But there is still uh 700,000 remaining to be collected by June. Um historically uh the bulk payment is received in June um received in June is approximately 500,000. Um as a result this figure may need to be adjusted in the final budget in increased adjusted. So, it'll be uh decreased. Did I say increase? I'm sorry. Well, you said 95% was in the budget and then you said your biggest thing was coming in June. So, I wasn't sure if it So, the the the uh so we still have 700,000 left and the bulk of the payment usually comes in June for about 500,000. So we won't be getting like 200,000. Is that just It's a possibility. So it's just kind of giving you like historically we typically
043received, you know, within the $500,000 range. Will that be reflected in the 2526 budget? Cuz now I'm confused. Well, if it's something that's not uh if we don't uh collect it, then it' be deferred into next year. will essentially pick it up from there if they pay um their So, if we have it in June, it will be in this fiscal year. If we get it in June, it'll be this fiscal year. Is it in the $8,367,000 $141? It's budgeted there. It's in that. It's budgeted. 8 million and we hope we get it. Is that right? I think there's a risk of maybe not receiving about $200,000 of of what is budgeted. Um, and at that we're already not budgeted at 100% of our property tax revenues. Um, but we think the risk is around
044200,000. It is, isn't it? Is the risk tied to unpaid property taxes? Thank you. Seems like Go ahead. I'd rather budget not to have it and hope we get it because if we don't get it, then how do we make up for the money we didn't get? Well, typically we budget over the course um the past few years we budgeted at the 95%. Um a lot of school districts do that as well just to kind of give a little bit of wiggle room. We can always budget a little bit lower um but it's not really ideal but we hope people pay their taxes and we can't control that unfortunately. Yeah, we can't control that. So even if we budget at 50% there's no guarantee that they'll the risk is based on past trending and we
045still have a conservative budget. Um we could cut it more but um we're hopeful people will pay their taxes and and we'll get that full amount. So, I had didn't quite understand this. Uh, local revenue 3.7 million from 2022, 3.8 million from 2023, and 4.7 million from 2024. That equals 10 millionish from actually more. Um, where is that in this in this budget? So the first one, the 3.7 million is referring to the local revenue from 2020 or 2122. So it's not a cumulative number that you're seeing that that's just breaking out that piece in each year. It's in the local line. Okay. Does is that answering what you're No, because that local budget is 8.3 and if you add all those up, it's more than I think those footnote. It's a footnote. If you
046see the 6,887610 and there's a one. Yes. That one is related to that footnote on the bottom. It's just saying that this money is part of that money. Yes. Got you. So it shouldn't I thought maybe Yeah. I thought it was all in this one. Like we didn't get it before. We're getting it now. No. No. Okay. It's historical. Yeah, it makes more sense. Okay. You Okay. So, uh, the state revenue that primarily consists of funding received through various state aid programs such as the 31 um award funding um our foundation allowance and um even uh MIPER's reimbursements for retirement uh contributions. This year we experienced a significant increase in state revenue due to the additional allocations for section 41 which is the bilingual education uh section uh section 31 AAA mental health and uh
047safety and section 51C which is special education um reimbursement. The center program budget showed a substantial variance between the budgeted and actual expenditures. Um, as a result, a portion of the excess revenue was reallocated back into the general fund um to help support district-wide uh operations. The adjustment was made to maximize the efficient um use of available funds and better align revenue with actual needs. The um federal uh revenue sources, your typical title one or your title grant. Can we stop for a second? Yes. What money did you put back into it? The general fund. It was the uh center funds. So the center So the center funds had too much money and you transferred we're allowed to transfer a certain percentage of that into a general fund. Correct. We cannot I can get you
048that specific percentage. when we cannot fill the staffing positions um and have vacancies all over, we budget that uh full position um we budget it into that and then it gets transferred to the general fund. When we've transferred in the past, the board votes on transferring money from the center fund and in the audit it showed the previous director used center fund that wasn't supposed to be used. So, was it his money getting put back in? because we didn't vote to transfer center fund money. I would have to look in to that. Sorry, Crystal. Sorry. No, it's fine. No, it's great for you to bring that to our definitely look at that. We have to keep 7% in that. Um, that's what I was looking center fund. I didn't I'm glad you brought up that
049we had to vote on it. I know we did a few few years ago, but I don't remember doing it any time um recently. We'll definitely look into it and move back to was so that money was moved this budget period. Well, it's budgeted there. So, it hasn't physically it isn't moved, but it is budgeted. Okay. Does that make sense? Um sorry. So, oh, for the federal revenue, so you know that it's sources like the title grants, um, community center grant, um, POPS grant, IDEIDA funding. This year, the federal revenue, uh, revenue has increased significantly due to the $1 million community center grant, and approximately 1.8 8 million in the carryover from the prior years on spent IDEIDA and uh title funds which we had talked about in the previous uh budget and it's now
050being recognized and used in the current fiscal year. Um other transactions include revenue received from the ISD primarily through two sources which is the regional enhancement millage and reimbursements for career and technical education CTE program. The regional enhancement millage provides um additional per pupil funding to support educational initiatives um across the district. Uh the CTE reimbursement offsets costs associated with delivering um career focused programs to students. These funds are essential in maintaining and expanding um opportunities that prepare students for both college and the workforce. Uh the budget amendment continues to align with the anticipated allocations um from the ISC. Um so our total income our total amount was 60,9663,281. That's our total budget. That's the money we brought in. 60 million. Yep. That's where we're on track to uh receive the budget and that would
051be by the end of June. Correct. Yes. Uh okay. So the basic programs um in this budget amendment remains consistent with the previous amendment. Um staffing generally does not fluctuate significantly in this section um since the number of direct teaching positions is driven by enrollment projections um made prior to the start of the school year. The added needs expenditures includes uh services for special education at risk students and uh career and technical education. Uh these costs depend heavily on the specific and evolving needs of the student population. Um fluctuations in this budget category are common as the level of support required can change throughout the year um due to new student enrollments, changes in IEPs um or adjustments in CTE participation. The main challenge here is hiring and retaining qualified uh pair of professionals um
052as a competitive labor market and limited candidate pool often leaves uh these positions unfilled. The general administration category encompasses uh the office of the superintendent led by Dr. CS as well as the board of education. Um the increase in expenditures in this area is primarily attributed to rising legal um audit related costs and costs. Uh legal expenses are currently budgeted at 240,000. um reflecting the growing need for ongoing legal counsel related to contracts, policy updates, and compliance with evolving federal and state regulations. Audited costs are projected at 130,000, which is also a significant increase compared to prior years. These um investments ensure that the district remains transparent, fiscally responsible. Yes. Sorry, there. Did I The auditors charged $130,000. The auditors charged. Yes. Holy smokes. Okay. We will Hey, it was a ton of work. We
053will absolutely not see those charges next year. They earned it. Okay. I've already um gotten access to the um the collaboration site where so I can look at the files that were provided to the auditors last year. We can start working on the schedule. So we will not allow that to happen again. Perfect. Thank you. You said that was all under general administration. Yes. Yes. Okay. Um the increase in business services expenditures is primarily attributed to costs associated with the ongoing IRS uh case. In addition, um other unknown costs associated with uh that are associated with the two ongoing investigations as well. Um these legal and financial obligations have placed added pressure on the business services budget which has initially increased um to account for costs related to short-term borrowing for the state aid support.
054Um the district is monitoring the situation closely and will continue to follow the direction of its legal advisors to ensure compliance and appropriate um financial stewardship. Um the other expenditures category includes a range of important district-wide initiatives with a primary focus on athletics and uh facility improvements. The increase in budgeted expenditures from the proposed budget to the first amendment reflects a notable rise in um coaching related costs. The most significant increase for amendment one to amendment two is due to the reconciliation of the United Way grants. Um the community service expenditures are likely overstated due to the timing of the spending of the Bulmer grant. revenues will be um lower proportionate to the expenditure, but unused grants uh grant funds will roll over into the new uh fiscal year. Um the district's overall budget um
055projects revenues exceeding expenditures by $440,71. [Music] This positive variance will increase the district's fund balance um and bringing it to an estimated 2.3% 2.30% of total expenditures. While this is a step in the right direction and reflects ongoing efforts to improve financial stability, uh the fund balance remains below the state's recommended um minimum threshold of 5%. And then as a result um the district is required to submit enhanced uh financial reporting to the state and um in the end we uh actually may need to secure short-term borrowing. This is one of the questions that you had Debbie um in the fall to manage cash flow uh particularly during the months when revenue receipts are delayed but operational costs remain consistent or constant. Uh the modest increase in fund balance underscores the importance of continued fiscal
056discipline um strategic planning and careful monitoring of both revenue and expenditures trends throughout the year. Okay question. Yes. Okay. On you said revenue was 60 thou 600,963,281. I'm showing expenditures grand total expenditures of 62,193443 that is telling me that our expenditures again exceed our revenue sources. So, I'm con I'm confused on how we're getting to the um because the 62 million grand total I did the same thing earlier. Heidi um does not include the transfers in and out. Okay. So, what are the transfers in and out? That is 1.67 million with more coming in. Oh, what is it? What's in that category? It's um it consists of the indirect cost recoveries and rental income from centerbased programs um to help offset administrative and operational costs um incurred by the district. Can you give me an
057example? I can give you an example that comes from Oakland schools, right? For center program payments. Yes. Okay. So for Jardon pay for for Jardon for instance and yeah it's the police center fund then why wouldn't we put that under the revenue category because the state tells us to put that in the transfers um and that's that's what's confusing is the net of the transfers in and out is 1.67 million. It looks like an additional expense on this format and it really is to us the net revenue of those. So we should take the 62,000 and add the million or 62 million, I'm sorry. And add the 1.6 million. No, you would subtract it. Subtract because it's revenue, right? Sorry. But then you would add back in the 295,000. Yes. Which comes to if I
058did my math correctly because I was trying to understand this in the middle of the night 60 million 60 million 423,110 I think which would be 440,000 less than the revenue. Correct. So we're saving 440,000. That's where that I I was going to ask a zillion questions but I did a whole bunch of math and figured it out. Um, so we're adding 440,000 to the 9, our current fund balance is 992,000, right? But this will all change if we don't get that $2 million. Correct. It will all change again. the two million that you talked in the very first page. It's not two million 200,000 not. So instead of having um it would be 240,000 into our fund balance. We also won't have that amount from the federal government either because we got money belated
059money. It was delayed money which put it up to the 5 million. We won't get delayed money again. Correct. So the federal amount can change also and if title one and who knows whatever else is going to come. I mean all the schools are struggling with this budgeting stuff. Uh there can be a lot of changes for next year. Yes, there could be a lot of changes in the income there. So, but we are sticking close with open schools and MSBO just monitoring where they think that's going as as we're entering into looking at budgets. That's bad enough you have to estimate without even having a state budget till October that you have to guess it. Guess at so much of this. Um, I have a question. We still owe 4 million on the 12th
060that we borrowed. That's due in August. Mhm. And in the bill run, there's a uh it has Matt Miller's name on it of monthly payments of $44,371.34. Where is that 44,000 coming out each month? Is that under business administration? Is that in the check round? It's in the CH Yeah, it was a Huntington statement. Had Matt Miller's name on it. set up for 44,000 per month. 44,000. Yeah. 4437 on 34 monthly. That way. Um, but we still have to Where are we going to get the 4 million that we still owe and then we have to rebar? Are we going to borrow to pay off the 4 million to keep? Uh, no. Um, so we've been watching the cash closely and um, I was actually hoping we'd have an opportunity to chip away at that
061a little bit sooner and paying it off in August just to save a little bit more on interest. Um, and we have not had that opportunity, but we are are watching that to accumulate so that we'll have that to pay off. Um [Music] we we also um are have been going through and making sure everybody's charged correctly to grants doing that and so that we can do a more timely draw down on that. Make sure that we're getting that funding in um sooner than later. So do we have a guesstimate of how much we might need to borrow next time? At this moment, no. That's something I actually um reached out for the next steps um to James um probably at Miller Canfield um to get some guidance on that. Hopefully it's not as much.
062Hopefully. No, it will not be as much. Not at all because it's essentially just covering um between August and October since we don't receive any, you know, state aid or anything in September. Did you We need to If you don't have an answer about the 44,000, we can get that Sure. farmed out. Sure. To people tomorrow. Not sure what that is. I don't see it either. I can't find I don't see 44. I see 44,000 is the total amount due for our Huntington account. It says Huntington. It doesn't say ongoing on there. I thought I read ongoing. There was a thing with Matt Miller's name. I do remember that. Is it is it the check register or is it affiliated with I think it's the check register. Do you know what page I'm looking for
063now? He's on the check register is uh page five and it is assistance with finances. So I'm guessing that's his payment. And then his name shows up again on the Huntington statement just as attention to Matt Miller. I didn't see that 44,000. I see 30 must be my 3,700 read on page but I don't have my sub I don't know where I got the word sounds like it's my fault if you find it let us know and we'll look into that bless you so let's see there was increase instructional staff general administr ation. Where's the teachers? What area are where's their pay show up? Under what category instructional staff? Correct. That's what I would think. I thought you said it was under basic programming. Oh, yes. I'm sorry. Instructional. Sorry. The 22 million. That's the
064teacher. I mean not just the teacher shelter but the basic programs in the top that's where okay that includes their pay because the audit says budget expenditures were increased by 4.6 million primarily due to staffing changes negotiated salary increases and a curriculum adoption that was larger than expected. So, and now that's not just teachers. I shouldn't have said that. That So, we're going to that's that's in stone. Like, we have to pay 46 million. They got raises. So, that's why I wonder what category is going to go up. That only went up what, 500,000. Where did 4.6 million Is it 4.6 million over the life of the contract? It doesn't say that in the audit. It said what happened? It went up 4.6 million and we had to take our unbalance to pay it. I
065can go back and and check. U 4,984,000 was uh the change the money that we needed and so 4.8 8 was salaries and that was a January. You don't have to answer now, but that was a January audit. I think when we get it February, end of February. Okay. Also, I think her Matthew Miller thing, the Huntington statement says, "Attention Matthew Miller and then it shows the balance of 44." I think I think that might be where it's coming from. Yeah, because there's still some things and I've been getting um his name removed from certain things. So, that's probably why. I mean just cuz some things come to attention crystal and attention matt, right? I think that might be what it is. Okay. Okay. Anybody anybody anything else that Thank you. That was great report.
066Thank you. Thank you. Very detailed. I like it. So the next step will be the final budget, right? We're going to have you report out on the the final budget. Yes. For this year, June. In June. Yes. And then in July, we'll be adopting a budget for the next school year. Right. Thank you both. Thank you. Yes. Thank you. I was just going to stay put because I think the next two are me uh business office assistant. Yes. Okay. Um, so, um, as I understand it, um, Matt and he has been a tremendous help, um, as I'm new to the district and just training, uh, Crystal on a lot of the nuances for her position. Um, as I understand it, he he was told he could stay through April. Um, and that was really helpful
067in getting through the budget amendment here. um he spent a lot of time working with Crystal on that. Um so what I'm asking for is that we can just retain Matt as an as needed basis um for the last two months of the year. um he would be more than willing to help if Crystal or I called or needed something, but he it wouldn't be a half hour thing here. But if we had something bigger um with software or something with doing budgets or something, we we just want to be able to um pay him for his services and just to wrap things up for the year. um he will keep a a time sheet and just it would be build on just the hours that he worked on projects with us um as needed.
068How how did you come up with the 66 hours? Um to keep it around 5,000 5,000. Okay. I just wondered if there was a madness of thinking with that. Just seems 66, you know. Any other questions? anybody. So, so it's either 5,000 or May or June or is it May and June and then he's done? It would be up to $5,000 through the course of May and June and then and then he'd be done. So, you don't think you would need his assistance through the 2425 audit? Um, I don't think so. Um, I think right now it's just a matter it's really about getting files or kind of functionality of how we do things and and um I think we'll be fine to do the audit. Okay. Nothing. Thank you. Are you next to Chartwell's
069contract? Oh yeah, that is me. Um, so this is just a an update for you. Uh the Tartar Walls contract, we had the initial one year and then we were allowed four renewals. Um the 25 26 school year would be our last renewal before we have to bid that out again. And um I've already initiated the process with Chartwells. Um the the contract uh extension has been with their attorneys. They were hoping to get it back uh at the end of last week. So we're expecting to see that. um anytime for Monday. That's that's really what we're pushing for. Any questions about it? No. Can I can I add that that would include the concession stand? Oh, okay. And um there was some conversation of uh why we moved to Chartwells was because they are
070um licensed through the health department and and they uh also provide consistent service through middle school, high school and that's why that's been u a benefit. anybody I I have so many questions on so many levels on that. um which I respect what you're saying but also the audience uh some of the members they were concerned about why they weren't able to um be able to do the you know the uh can't think right now concessions help me with my words concession stand and I mean and the thing that keeps digging at my brain is when I sat in the audience and and uh charts What was it? $800 after they got all done for the year. It was minimal. I think each But you guys $800 as a board you divided that $800 amongst
071all the sports. When in the past we would have six scholarships for, you know, seniors and and people going to school, athletic people that were, you know, at the high school because of the athletic boosters and all that. And then the same thing with the Vikett. They would run the concessions, you know, they would take turns or whatever. So, it help really helped their program to offset some of these costs. If we're only getting $800 for the year, right? I think there's something wrong here. And I understand about the certification and say, but some of I know some of the people did do the safe serve and and the stuff online. I I mean I think that as a board we could set a policy. Isn't that our job to set a policy and to
072um maybe uh put forth that if you're going to have a like the athletic boosters if they're going to be part of it they have to run the safe serve or or food service or I mean I don't know. I'm just that's why I'm just like there's so many questions on so many levels because I I really want to get back to helping Hazel Park and their families and also offsetting the cost of the sport so us as a board it doesn't come out of our board, you know, fund and also helping our our kids with scholarships and stuff. Um that's just that's my soap box for today. Yeah. I I can I can just say that as a dance mom for many many years, the dance team ran or at some points cuz the
073there was conflict, we had the boosters come in and run our concession and they would give us a percent and they would take a percent. And I can tell you that they made like $2,000 at a home competition where I don't even think this year they gotten anything from Char. I remember when Mrs. C would pay me my guys to videotape all day. Pay me as the DJ person would pay the uh um uh the police wannabe. What do you call those guys? Uh yellow lights auxiliary police. Um I didn't mean to I don't want to I'm sorry if you take offense to that, but um you know she would pay them all that give them donations and that and she was able to do that with those funds that Mr. Atkins would sit there
074and all day long for 15 hours and collect the money. And uh I I mean I just kind of think that we need to start taking care, you know, you want to start taking care of our own and we're not doing that if we're giving Chartwells, you know, I think what they made $40ome,000 or something, wasn't it? And they only give us $800. I don't remember off hand. I can't remember. I don't remember what it was, but it was a lot of money. It was more than 800, but it wasn't 2,000 per event. That's for sure. No, but I did think it was in their contract. It was very concessions. No, I don't have to be it does not have to be in their contract for them to do concessions. We can ask them to
075remove it. So, just my thoughts. I'm sorry. Athletic Booster had a person that was safe served, qualified under the state and ran that concession stand for years. And what happened? This totally cut community. Um you you you put a a a company in there that's not connected to the Hazel Park Hazel Park people. So it ruined community, but there was a safe served person and Athletic Boosters did that for a hundred years. And they also did the dance competitions and it was well covered and uh the food was fantastic, delicious, plenty of it. Um it had nothing to do in all due respect, you only go by what you were told. Um yeah, it didn't have anything to do with any state law. So, but that's my take on it. needs to be ours so
076we can take care of our our community. Um I feel like anything else has community ties. There's parents that work for them and there there is some employees that are Hazel Park citizens and and I and they do a great job. Don't get me wrong. I think they do great lunches. I've eaten their lunches here and I think their food is good. I don't have a problem with that. It's just the fact of uh the concession stands. Here's something somebody can research. How many districts have their food service doing food at their football games? But then wouldn't we also have to figure out not using their items? Like like what do you mean their items? Like isn't like the pizza warm and all that stuff theirs? No, it's the districts. They use their the the
077money out of the districts to pay for that. They have a um like how they the extra money has to be used for food like and we did the cafeteria and we bought new freezers and stuff like that. So it's the the equipment is actually the school's equipment now. That's my take on it too. Even if you go to all the schools, the new freezers and ovens and all that is is our early on at every event as well. It comes out on That's good to know. Um so that's I'll get more information and bring it back. Okay. Okay. Museum contract. I think we're just going to vote on Did we do that? No, we're not voting. Uh that's That'll just be a vote to renew it so the city can still have the historical
078museum. Right. Right. Yeah. Okay. It's a renewing contract. It said inside the contract. I think that it automatically renews. Oh, if we don't vote it. So, we don't know if it stays. Yeah. I mean, we should, but it does. It says that no action just triggers the renewal. Okay. Mr. Wilkins, communication, junior high communication devices. I apologize. I got to update this. It is junior high in Edison. Um, but we're needing additional 25 walkie-talkies for the two buildings to have enough walkies to cover their staff. The junior high only received like four or five in the beginning when we first got them and they haven't received anymore and they need them for their paras, social workers, counselors and such. Questions? Anybody? I do have a question. In um September's meeting, we approved $6,611 for walkie-talkies
079and it was supposed to be for the hope for emergencies and crisis within the district. Where did those walkie-talkies go? I will get that information for you. I don't know off the top of my head, I don't remember. Well, did we purchase them in September? We purchased them and that would have been I'd have to double check that quote to see exactly how many that was. But we've had some that are breaking and we replace them and there's no warranty or anything on them. There's like a year warranty on them. Well, if we just bought them in September. Well, I'm saying all the ones previous ones. So, we're swapping them out. What's the cost of the 25? I don't have it in front of me. $8,225. $8,000. Some of the funding is from special ed.
080It's a general fund. Do you know how much of the special ed would be paying? I would um venture to say a majority is coming out of center fund because Edison is requesting 10 and then the paras at the junior high I'm getting a list of which ones are special ed pairs versus genet parah. So, okay. This couldn't come out of the syncing fund because it's security or where do we sit on the syncing fund at? Uhoh. I'm sorry. Um, right now we have about $800,000 in our syncing fund balance. um give or take. We have a few reconciling things to do with that. Um to be used up by what? There's no deadline for that, but we have committed $2 million to use um with the train project for updating um our facilities and
081maybe the train project is not the right title. Captain, do you have a better It's the energy efficiency. Yes. Uh program with train. Okay. So we set aside 2 million for that and and this wasn't I thought train wasn't supposed to cost us any money. They could do it without it costing us any money. We will have greater savings. There's a lot that needed to be done at the high school. So if we can put in a some I don't say a little amount 2 million is not a little amount but whatever we could contribute they could get us a much larger bang for our buck with that. there's a lot of HVAC issues um in changing out to LED lighting. So, we will still see more of savings. Um I I think they were
082originally hoping from previous discussions for more like 4.5 million. Um but and I felt like two was was the most that we could commit. And how much do we get in the scing fund each year? Is the syncing fund going to pay for the walkie-talkies? Are we off the subject? I think there was a question if it could be for the walkie-talkies because they were security for safety. But okay. Um it would be allowable. Um but we've we've committed for the energy efficiency project what we have currently and then some of the funding from next year. Um I'll have to get the the amount that we get in each year. I don't know that off hand. Okay. Isn't our syncing fund coming up for a vote soon for the people? Um, next year or we
083still have a couple years on that. Uh, when I was looking at that, but uh I think when our vote when we come up for a renewal would be um during the presidential elections. So, we might want to take that a little bit earlier. So, I was just looking at the calendar for that. But, we still have a couple years on that. Okay. So, back to the walkie-talkies. Um, do we would we don't know how much the uh general fund is going to you need dollars for the general fund. Maybe you could update us that. Yeah. That by next week. Yeah, that would be good. And then um maybe you can work with um Monica. Monica um with how it's going to be funded and you could put it in here. That's just my opinion.
084Yep. We'll do. Thanks, Brad. All right. Thank you, Brad. Uh, Jordan, extended school year. [Applause] Uh, so our extended school year, our ESY, is a federal mandate and, uh, so that is based off of a student, each student individually with an IEP. Uh, whether they've had regression over time, uh, the severity of their disability. It's based off of um lack of progress for an IEP goal. And so based off of a team's decision, that decision is made for a student to receive extended school year services for those particular needs. And so doing so, Jardan has indicated that they will need, I believe, two ASD teachers, two MOAI teachers, eight pair professionals, one speech and language pathologist, one physical therapist, one occupational therapist, and one school social worker over the course course of the summer. And
085and how many students are going I don't have that exact number and the funding is all coming from special ed because it should be it's center program right I just was putting it out there anybody okay thank you camp invention oh you're moving too fast anybody speaking to camp invention um I can I can speak to that since uh Carla was on a field trip in Ohio today with uh the Balmer group. Um so or Dr. Dolman, would you like to go? Absolutely. Um, so this is a one-week program free to students and we partner with uh the General Motors Corporation and it's a STEMbased program where students come for the day and um have social interaction. They work on projects, they work together, they learn, and it's going to be at the end of
086our summer, so it won't correspond or interfere with our own summer programming. What did I forget that? Is it elementary? Yes. Oh, it's I thought it was older kids. Maybe just because the word general voters, it doesn't cost the district anything. Awesome. Wonderful. Very good. And they will pay our staff to run it. Is that the camp parent? Uh, there's a role description in here that looks like a job description. So, I don't Is that a parent volunteer? Is that okay? Yes. Anybody else? Okay, moving on to athletic uniforms. [Music] Mr. Patterson, good evening. I'm here as the interim athletic director to address the purchase of uniforms, football uniforms. I think you have in front of me a memo and the uh four bids for that um with the recommendation of the 216 units. Um
087it's primarily focused on almost exclusively on facilitating the ability to have a JV team next year. um we don't possess enough home uniforms to field a JV team if we and we have a commitment from at least 20 that have been surveyed eighth graders to play football next year um 18 or some seventh graders obviously they wouldn't be playing JV next year and sixth graders were not surveyed um we started the year with 40ome football players obviously there's attrition kids don't play get hurt get tired of that um we barely have enough home uniforms to cover that, let alone an additional 20 to 30 kids that could uh be in JV. Is that where did you have three prices? Did you have three quotes? Yeah. Okay. There's four. Um the Redell is divergent from the
088others uh because it has 16 pants that the other three bids did not include in their bid process and Redell is the lowest bidder. Um the 16 pants are to include different body shapes for tall. So I have a question. Um, in my zillion years as a soccer manager and a hockey manager, the the Nike and Adidas, they would change the um, they would discontinue uniforms after like a year and a half so that you if you tried to get extras for different kids or whatever, you lose them. You couldn't get them because you'd have to buy a whole new style of uniform. Do we run into that issue here? We ran into it, I'm told. Um, I can see the evidence in the whites, the away lights. We have two different sets of whites.
089Um, they're close enough that we can play with them, but that enables us to have away whites, but this is a two for one. So, you get a home set and then also an away set if you so order. Yes. So, have have they guaranteed you like 3 years before they they update the style? Have they said anything like that? They have. They said two years. Okay. Two years. Wow. Um, is there between attrition of students not returning them or them being damaged? Um, football's Yeah, they wear them out. Football. Yeah, they Yeah, on virtually every play with some of the players, somebody's effectively trying to tear the uniform. So, so is there any fundraising for this? There is. There's significant fundraising going on. There's already several events planned and they've committed to fund raise
090at least half of the amount sought. And what's the total? Oh, I'm sorry. The amount the recommended amount is 16488 from Redell. And are we going to have maroon ones as an alumni? That was part of the Is there a black one? Yes, I've heard that a number of times and that that was factored into the decision. My 84 year old mother wants to make sure it's she's not alone. She graduated from the old high school. So the 16488 is the full amount or is that that's full amount? So the fundraising could cut it down to eight. Yes. Depending on how much Yeah. They have something on the 26th which I kind of advertise um at Eastern Palace already. A silent auction um a fundraiser scheduled for that date. What day? The 26th of April,
091I believe. So yes. Any other questions for There's a commitment of 20. I'm sorry. The There's a commitment of 20. How many How many kids played varsity football last year? They started with 42 and ended with 32 31. All right. So, there's a commitment of 20 kids, but the individual purchase orders quote the quantity of each unit at 50. Yep. 50 units. That's typically the buy um because of attrition and if to create a full team what they would envision doing is moving those to the varsity the purchase and then the existing varsity from 30 some odd to 40 some odd down to the JV. How old are the varsity uniforms? They vary from four years to one year depending on which set. Anybody else? No. All right, good. Thank you. Thank you, Cogna. Good
092evening, everyone. Is this on? Okay. Oh, yeah. Perfect. I'm looking for everybody over there and it's freezing. So, I am coming to the board with an update on COGA as requested. We are in the middle of a cycle and per the board memo, we were going to have to go through our full accreditation process next year, but Cogna has made some transitions themselves. So, we actually do not have to go through full accreditation until the 26 27th school year. And so, this is really just an update on the process. Every October, we pay about, let's see, $11,200 to continue to be a part of Cognia. And then in that year that we would go through the accreditation process, we would have to pay an additional $7,500 to ensure that we were prepared and also to
093host the on-site review team. So this is just a brief update on where we are in that process and what the next steps would be. What questions might you have for me? So my question is, well, I have a couple questions. If we say, "Okay, then we're going to drop off, but we're going to come back." When you're going to do the actual like I don't understand why we went for two years and and they saw absolutely nothing. Is it their cycle that that it's their cycle? The typical cycle is a five-year cycle. And because I I think it was last year that we re-engaged with them, we had had a lapse and because we were approved, they allowed us to just rejoin without going through the full approval process. And so, uh, that was
094a decision on that the Aogna's decision to allow us to just to rejoin. And what they communed to us LA communicated to us last year is that we would have to go through the full accreditation process this next year. but they have really revamped all of their rubrics and all of their full process. So, they're giving a six-year to all the districts that are in the middle of that process. So, that was really just a decision on their part to delay it. And so, to stay a member of the Cogna process, you have to pay that yearly fee, right? So, we can't like say, "Oh, we're not paying this year, but we're going to pay when we next year when we do that thing." Can you help me understand what how why do we belong
095to this accreditation? Is it help our high our high school students or so in the past being part of it was probably what many of you recall as North Central Accreditia accreditation. That was what it was for a long time was NCA and then it moved to Advanced Ed. It was really the whole the same thing. What happened was different organizations were merging and it is really a continuous school improvement process. And so in the past couple years, the state of Michigan actually does not any longer require that you are accredited. That really is a choice. What is not a choice which you hear us go through every year is the MYKIP process. So my is the Michigan in integrated continuous improvement process. All districts are required to go through that continuous improvement process. Cogna
096is a continuous improvement process. They just have maybe some different rubrics and things that we would use to go through an analysis of our district. And so some districts go through accreditation now. Some districts do not go through accreditation because of the process at the state level. And the Michigan continuous improvement process, the mykit process that we are currently obligated to do is a pretty rigorous process. It requires us just like Cogna would. It requires us to go through deep data analysis. It requires us to go through a comprehensive needs assessment. It requires us to do strategic planning and really analyze the work that we're doing in a number of different areas much like we would do with our continuous improvement process. The second prong of that which I'm going to talk about a little
097bit later uh I know the board wanted an update on the portrait of a learner. The portrait of a learner work I know a number of you were a part of that work is also a continuous in improvement process. So that process of going out uh gathering information from our community and all the stakeholders really helped us start that continuous improvement process. So we'll have the one piece which is the student achievement data and our process data from the district side and then from the portrait of learner work we've got the other element that can help us bring things together to move forward in our district. Okay. Thank you. You're welcome. So, we're just tripling our work because we're doing three different processes. Correct. They're they're while they each have their own individual types of
098things that they would do, essentially they're all continuous and improvement processes and procedures. And when we think about uh streamlining and making sure that we're very focused in our work, having three different processes going on at the same time would duplicate, maybe not triplicate, but would duplicate our work. Anybody else? No questions. Thank you. Finan workforce analysis. Not sure what that is. This was the document provided by Jeff Ramberg who uh provided a quote for us to um examine staffing levels within the district. Um there was a thought that maybe this work could be done next school year. Um so we stay the course this year but then next year maybe invite them to This is the 40,000 hour $45,000 plan, right? Correct. Okay. I still think this is something that we should wait on
099a little bit. Um, with potential money not coming in with taxes or other items and spending money on plenty of other things and not on things I think are actually worthy. I think that this is something that should just be held off for now. My question on this is can we get them to come out and do a question answer? Do what? A question and answer like they can they come and present. Do they do that? Sure. And then I mean even if we even if we put it off at least until July um could they come at that point in time? Could they come at that point in time? Sure. And question answer and explain to us why we would do this. I mean I know why we would do it but I think
100it's always better to have them in front of you. I agree. Could you find out when we did the last one? You know it's crazy. You can't keep track of time. I want to say it was five years ago. Maybe it was two. I don't know. But we did we've did two. I know we did one in 2016. It was mandated, but I'm not sure that second one. Okay. Uh financial reports question. This is that for Crystal. We did get quite a few questions um by email today. So, thank you for allowing us some time to answer those thoroughly and I will share all those answers out with all of you um at the end. So, you have some Debbie. Well, I I'm one of the people that emailed them and I didn't have as
101much. Um, I'd be happy to get them if you're going to email the answers later or do you want me to ask them now? Not nearly as many as I normally have. It's like four or five, maybe eight. But, um, they're actually in your inbox. Oh, good. All right. I guess if they didn't I saw I got mine, too. If they're not answered, if we can ask again next week or question anything. All right. Wow. Who's in box? Debbies. Just Debbies. I will get all of the questions and all of the answers to all of you by Friday. I just wonder because I didn't receive any. Um I was say you want to read the questions. We don't want answers. No, I say we go forward and No, just go forward if we're already on
102two and a half hours. Exactly. Okay. I know. I'm I keep looking. I'm ready to take a break. Um handbooks. Any questions on handbooks? There was just one that was on delay that I know the student parent one then there was two handbooks in the thing. Were there any changes? Uh minor. They were uploaded uh this weekend but very minor. I believe Mr. Patterson updated a few like minor language pieces in the athletics section and the only other addition was um that Ms. Mckenry noticed that we did not have the criteria for validictorian and saludiatoran in the handbook. So that was added but other than that it is exactly what you saw prior to this. Perfect. Same with Webster. Are we good? Yes, Webster were just minor updates. It was dates um you know who
103the administrator was and then we do have some changes to the enrollment process as um the new secretary who started in the fall and Miss Aguero are working through that. They've just made some updates to that process. Okay, any questions? Last but not least, the employee handbook was requested to be delayed and so Yep. So, so we're going to get it in so you can uh take action. Okay. And there were no changes. It's just you needed more time because it was so Okay. Thank you for your hard work. Moving on. Calendar for the 2526 school year. I thought we approved the calendar when the teachers contract. We approved it for two years. If I may interject, this is the calendar that goes for the uh uh Oakland schools, isn't it? It's aligned with the
104common c the county common calendar. Yes. It's one that's required for the auditor to do their auditing and for the student information system. So, it was already approved by the board. Yeah, it's part of the teachers contract, I believe. So, yeah, these are just Sorry. Go ahead. These are just the individual ones that up per school. They specifically list like um parent teacher conferences or on this day for elementary, this day for junior high, this day for high school. Um they, you know, each school just a little bit as far as the start and the end dates, they're the same. the vacation dates, those are the same, but there are some minor tweaks and changes between um each building calendar and those areformational or do we have to vote on those? Do like the building
105you have voted on them individually in the past? Yes, we so we vote as a district and that was that was the practice in the past before the old teachers contract had those three years in there. So we vote as a district when we start, when we end, um when the vacations are but again just minor tweaks, you know, advantage is a trimester calendar. um SXI has their additional 20 days on there. The early on calendar is more 12 months along, right? Because early on they can only go for so long without services for the students. Um and if I remember right in the um one of the auditing questions in the student information system is was this voted by the board? And so you have to each individual calendar we're voting to well these
106calendars here they ask you were these voted on by the board of education. So you kind of have to say yes and submit that information to it the minutes that was part yeah the minutes have to be entered into the cis to make sure that they align with MD. Okay. Anything else on calendar and we're moving on to Hazel Park dance team. [Music] So, um, uh, Dana spoke to this during public comment. um knowing that it is to come before the board uh at this time of year because tryyouts are going to be held in May. Um it is our recommendation that we close the program to outside students, new outside students, but grandfather those who are in discussion anybody? I do have a question like and it does say that there's 12 that come
107from out of district. Where are they at? Are they in the high school level? Are they at the park rats? Are they at the starlets? Where are we at if we grandfather them in? And the reason why I'm asking is if you take the coach's wages and you divide it by the 47 students, you're talking about about $436 per dancer that we just pay in coaches fees, which is fine. But for the out of districts, for those 12 kids, we're talking about an additional $5,233 that we get no funding for those 12 students that we're additioning paying out. So, I'm just kind of wondering where those kids are in the process of their dance. We they're all ages. There's not ones, but I think my kids have three. I have three So there's there's three
108on Park Rats. Yes. So that's three pets. Four on Park. Four on Parkrett has four. Three parks. Four hazel. Three park rats. I can actually if you're I hate to say this, but if you're speaking, come up here so that the audience can hear you too at home. Otherwise, they can't hear a thing you're saying. We can get I sent it somewhere. I can look and get that to you as well. Yeah, the coach's fee is not paid per student though. The coach is a stipen on the schedule B um as part of a settlement that we had with the grievance with the teachers group. So those are that's amount wouldn't change if you had less students just like we wouldn't change the amount of the baseball team if we had less players. So I
109don't Right. But if you're just figuring it out by student how much we pay for the coaches right now we're paying $5,000 for students that don't even attend our schools. I I again I don't know what the agreement was. I when it was open the way that it was explained to me which was more recently that it was to build and grow the program which is what we have done. Um there was something in there about the two years which I guess is now but again for me as far as how I feel it's not costing the district any more money. We would still be paying those those five coaches the same amount of money if you pulled those 12 out. It's not going to change. And it's great to see that you've got 12
110that want to be at Hazel Park for at least for dancing. You know, it would be great if they were here, but and and we try. We did have one that came over um that transferred. Um unfortunately, it wasn't a good fit and she did um go back. Um but again, it it it is bringing in, which was part of, you know, what I was hoping too is we're putting our name out there. It is it is a good program. me again. There's a little drama here and there, you and there's no guarantee all 12 of these will stay the whole time. But I think when we voted on it in 2022 that it was to get people to come into our district and if that's not happening, I mean I again I wasn't here.
111I don't know what what it was. Again, we we are trying. we're doing, you know, the best we can, but I can't force like people to to come to the schools. I would just feel that if you have allowed them to come in that maybe we should have been a little more clear. Hey, you can come in for 2 years and then you're going to be out like No, absolutely. I I I believe that those 12 should be able to stay. If I may, I believe the same thing that the 12 should stay. Um, it's no different than uh it'd be just it would be upsetting their voice. I mean, cuz I was on I was part of the bike for many years with Mrs. C. Yes. And I was even a a a judge
112for her in the mornings, 5:00 in the morning. Yeah. Um, so I I understand that and and I think it's important that we keep those kids at least cuz what are we talking about? How many high school kids are there? out of district. We have three. Three. So, okay. So, those will be gone. Yep. You know, whenever they graduate. So, I mean, it's going to turn around, right? And and my but my concern is cuz I'm for it, but my concern is do we how do we if emergency wise, what happens if there's an emergency with a student during practice? I have all the information. You have all the cards. What happens if they're out in competition? The same thing. You have I have everything. I take it with me. we have a spreadsheet. Um,
113and then here's another question and maybe Mr. Patter can answer this is if something, god forbid, happens, you know, um, in a pyramid and and the one girl is from Troy school, she's on the top and she falls down and breaks her leg. Who covers that? The school district. Us as a school district because it's our Okay, that's that's what I wanted. Not not I hope the answers are not doing pyramids like cheerleaders. Yeah, I I know. But you know, I have seen them do that on many. Um Oh, for sure. Dancers. And again, the the families that we have are amazing families. They are at everything. Um we have a couple in the audience here tonight. They if their child were to get I wouldn't have to call there. Everybody is right there. So,
114okay. says my I have the liability thought when they're going out of out of state into Kentucky and this board is voting for that to happen and we have kids from other districts they're covered. That's what Mr. Patter would be covered by. Okay. Um which we have our own insurance that covers that. Right. And the proposal is to not allow more in but keep the ones that we have. Right. Correct. I want to put out the ones that we have. I think that would be Well, I wouldn't either. I was just wondering how long we have to be looking at. I'm not saying he's looking at the financial issue of it, which is a good way to I mean, it is an opposite way to look at something because sometimes you forget about that and
115and I understand that totally. And is it going to come back and bite us in the future? Hopefully not because I mean if anybody's supported by cuts, you were. So, the kid they're I read they pay uh $1,100 on average. Yes. Yeah. What What does that go for? All their costumes, tights, shoes, um makeup, the competition fees, judges. When we host, we have to buy um trophies, pay the judges, hotels for the judges, mileage for the judges. And this is why you fund raise also. Yes. cuz you couldn't you could not pay for it. We do have a lot of parents that do fund raise for the whole entire season. So this year fundraising wasn't as great, but we're getting we're getting back to it. So it's it it is an expensive sport. Um but
116for the it's a I want to say 12 month sport cuz we are literally we don't have the rank on the way home from nationals. the coaches were already planning, you know, tryyouts and what they're going to do and all of that. So, I'm just bummed that I'm not involved with being able to get uh, you know, the fundraising part of it. I used to be able to get mugs and and different things and because my mom has a Viking my mom has a Viking hen party that she has and those four hens used to be graduates, they like when I buy those uh Viking stuff, they love to have them. Well, we can we also need volunteers for our home cops, too. Okay. All right. Anybody anything? Thanks, Dana. Thank you. Uh Michigan Virtual
117Academy board member [Music] reappoint. So, we are the charter organization for the uh Michigan Virtual Charter Academy. they have one of their board positions which uh needs to be appointed and so that is our role. Um the the person has been nominated by their board gone through a background check and uh been vetted and we are looking for your approval next week to bring that person aboard their board. So, it's a reappoint. Were they on before? We're just voting to keep them. So, he's currently on the board, correct? Okay. But he still would go through all the background checks and things again. Okay. Anybody else? Okay. Grant grants 2526 Amazon Future Engineer Program. Dr. Dage, Dr. Cost. So this is this is really just um giving us access to the materials and the courses every
118year. So I believe we approved this these courses probably four to five years ago and every year Amazon has to give us access to the future engineering course um topics information. So this is just a renewal of that and based on what students are signing up for at the high school if those courses have enough students then we will run that. uh I believe this support has been for five years. So it's a really important support that they give us and give us an access to students in a lot of different areas not only within the class but also in partnering with outside organizations as well questions. Thank you. Good. And are you doing computer science? Sure. I'll do 99B. So, uh, I wrote this grant back in January, and it's really focused on building
119more capacity among our, excuse me, among our teachers so they can more effectively integrate computer science principles and computational thinking across the disciplines. I had an opportunity to meet with the team at the MDE that's supporting that grant and they actually told me that their funding was reduced from 4 million to $500,000 which I had not known that legislature had done and Hazel Park out of the 43 entries was one of the 19 that was awarded the dollars. So once again we're up front and center and having an opportunity for our students. So the work will really focus real specifically on building capacity for our teachers, having advanced training, and then looking at our current curriculum and finding ways that we can integrate that and then obviously that will impact our students. One of the
120things that we're really hoping to do is to continue to build that strong computer science pathway into our high school. We have the courses, but we don't have the course participation that we like to see. And part of this work, part of the planning that we will have to do is to reach out to different universities and thirdparty vendors to build a strong pathway. I've already got some connections, as you know, at Oakland University as well as LTU. So, I think this is a great opportunity for our teachers to learn, for our teachers to be outfront leaders, and for us to build in more opportunities to get our students engaged and also to have them consider this as a future pathway when they leave our schools. That sounds fantastic. Thank you. That sounds really good.
121Um, portrait of a learner. So, I know that you have that update in front of you and this is really just letting you know where we are in that process and potential next steps. So, what was done this past year was basically what we contracted for with Battel for Kids, which was to do the four planning meetings. The fourth one we've put on hold, but it doesn't mean the work needs to be on hold. Given the transition in January, we felt perhaps that needed to be on hold for a little time until we figured out what we were doing and what the next steps were because that's a pretty intensive strategic planning process. So, what we've done so far is linked in the memo. Basically, through all those community meetings and through all the stakeholder
122work, we came up with a graphic and that is linked for this group to see. And that graphic if you recall and I think um and I think I know Heidi you were part of that team weren't you? Debbie was part of that team and Darren. So we went through a pretty extensive process in April. Thank you Darren. Uh went through a pretty extensive process to first of all come up with those competencies that are represented on that graphic and that was done through that uh stakeholder team's input. It was done through student input. We had parent input. We actually had a lot of feedback. Probably about 30 to 35 people who attended those meetings. And we also had a lot of survey feedback. Do we have the graphic to put up on the screen?
123Uh we do. Mr. Wilkins, could you go ahead and put that graphic up, please? It's linked in the memo for portrait of a learner. surprise, Mr. Wolf. So, while he's doing that, I'll ask a couple questions. So, we still are missing the fourth meeting, correct? We put that on hold. Mhm. And that's part of our contract and so we'll get that correct. And and I had an opportunity last week in preparation for preparing this memo to talk with the individual Colin Lewis who was coming to do that work with us. and he basically said, you know, whenever you're ready to go to that next meeting, we can do that. That was really just going to be a finalization meeting because we've already got the graphic and the stakeholder team went through extensive work in those
124three meetings to come up with the competencies. When you look at the competencies, what you'll notice is there's one area that's probably got eight or nine bullet points that needed to be streamlined a little bit. Also, what you see is that some of the bullet points are long and they're wordy. And so, really, what we have to do is just finalizing and coming up with some ways to maybe say some of those things in a more concise manner because that's really just in the Battel for kids process. The work that we did over this past year was really just the very beginning part of this process. What's really supposed to happen would be the next steps is that you engage in a full strategic planning process using these competencies. once or alongside that strategic planning
125process. What the goal would be is to really dig deeply into your curriculum and instruction because essentially these competencies need to be wrapped into everything that we do, all the work that we do, our curriculum, our instruction areas of focus and that's a long-term planning process. So the work, this work right here was just the beginning. Now, one of the things that um Colin did let me know is that the Vatel for kids will continue to function, but it's being um assimilated into AASA and so there will be some transitions in June. So, his recommendation was any of the finalizations that we need to do should be done prior to that because again, this is just the first part of the work. Now, we'd have to go through those competencies. Um, again, strategic planning, talking
126about what that looks like and sounds like in our environment and how we're going to wrap that into everything that we do. That's a 3 to five year pro planning process. So, we really just have to finalize the competencies. Brad, can you please go to the next document? Thank you. That's what that was the work that the committee did and that's where we landed. The next step is really just finalizing some of these and making them concise. So, uh, executive counsel has done some work on this to look at it. For example, you'll see, which is good. We really wanted to make sure our students were empathetic. You'll see the word empathy listed four to five different times, yet we have a bullet point that's really specifically focused on empathy. So taking out the word
127empathy or removing some of the competencies bullet points underneath that would be the next step. So we absolutely um can finalize this. We were pretty much at that final stage anyways. It was really just we've already agreed on the graphic. So the spell check on some of these boards in there. So that so just for clarification that was not my document. I'm just I would not share that here. That was really just the document that was sent by Battel for Kids and clearly someone put that together and did not do spellch checkcking before they sent it to me. Um but that is that is the way that they had it. Yes, we had a little chuckle over that little few few grammatical errors, a little periods and a couple of different spots that they shouldn't
128be. So that's really the finalization point and the update. What I wanted to be clear is that the contract for this year was just to finish this work. There was there was not really a a decision to go any further than that with the Patel for kits. They certainly will do strategic planning. They will go through this whole process, but that would be a new contract that would cost additional dollars. So once we get this finalized, we'll be done with what we pay for for this year. And uh Colin is is just uh waiting for feedback from us and waiting for any of the next steps. And he is uh absolutely willing to wait until of course June 30 it's going to transition to a new organization. So we need to do it before. Yeah.
129Yeah. And this is this is close. It's really just again word smithing, taking out empathy. There were a couple other things that we just kept seeing over and over and over. And so we actually did look at some of this at executive counsel to streamline it a little bit. Um like for example under critical thinking where it says analyze and interpret and then it goes on and on and on. That's a a really wordy um sentence when we're trying to get quick information out. Certainly, when we're having kids analyze and interpret information and think critically, that's what we would do and we would wrap that into our curriculum and instruction. But in terms of a visual, because once you get this set, you're going to want to post that much like we have, you know,
130we did with our strategic planning before, you'd have all those graphics posted throughout your buildings and it's got to be clear and concise. So that's the status of portrait of a learner right now. Thank you. Any other questions related to that? I'm just thinking um you when we were talking about cog cognia, you had mentioned that um the portrait of a learner was very similar on strategic planning. Correct. Um and we don't have a price on that on this next steps. We do not. So, I was wondering if we could get a an C of pricing. Absolutely. Before we vote on the Cogna. Mhm. And the Cogna really the Cogna piece is really just an update. We don't have to pay again until next October. So, you do have a little bit of time, but
131I certainly can reach out and understand what that would be. Okay. And there was actually no decision because you know as a district you could just go into strategic planning on your own but tell for kids offers it but that would be a decision this board would have to make as to whether or not they wanted someone from the outside to come in to do that strategic planning. But I certainly can reach out and find out what it would look like for those next phases. Do you think they would even do that before June 30th or would they sort of ask us to wait until the AASA? Because they're transitioning June 30. They would ask us to wait. I guess June 30th. Well, we don't we don't pay Cogna until October. So, there's some time.
132I'm just asking for the information whenever it's available. Anybody else? Nope. Okay. Thank you. So we are have public comments. So I have Paul Janeowski. You have uh three minutes. And um I have your address here, so I'm just pass it over to Jamie. Perfect. I'm Paul Janowski. Uh I live at 790 East Webster Street over in Ferndale. Um, I'm a parent of a outofd district dancer who's been dancing for two years now. Um, I'm also the husband of a coach uh at the dance team. Um, and I just wanted to speak real quick to try to implore all of you to vote to keep the students that are already out of district. Um, I know for us, I grew up I went to Hazel Park, graduated from Hazel Park, my wife did. Um, our
133daughter went through Hazel Park all the way up until this current school year. Um, and she's now over at Ferndale, but she started the dance program while being in district and we just moved and everything. So, uh, yeah, I guess there's various reasons why some students may not be in Hazel Park schools. Um, but it's not the fault of the kids. It's totally acceptable that parents move, buy houses, whatever. Um, but they stayed. Like our daughter stayed. She's still in the dance. She loves it. She built bonds. We have friends over all the time. Um, so yeah, I just wanted to little last closing comment to keep in thought of the kids and not having to tell them that uh they can't dance anymore. So yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Good point. Um, it just
134says German. Anybody have any comments board? I just want to congratulate I know varsity softball and varsity baseballs today. I know soccer were going so I don't know if Mr. did well but I haven't heard. Um, but that's all. Spring sports are in full swing and we have them literally almost every day. I have an update. Okay. Um, congratulations to Heidi who we found out received her level three award of distinction from MASB. So, congratulations on your hard work. Great job, Heidi. Thanks. I'm glad you found out. I didn't know. I actually just found out. I know. You kept saying you should have it. So awesome. Good. Okay. Motion to adjourn this. Happy Easter. Enjoy your 3day weekend. Yeah. Happy Easter. Boy, it's rolling fast, isn't it? I have a quick question. Is our meeting
135next Monday? Yes. I didn't know if we had a motion to adjourn. We already second.