Kingsbury Board meeting April 20, 2026

001We're live. >> We are live. Uh 606. >> All right. It is 606. Good afternoon or good evening. Calling the Kingsbury Country Day School Board meeting for April 20th to order. Um could you please take roll call? >> Sure can. Uh Jod Quizenberry, Sandy Buckley, >> Adam Stewart present. >> Kyle Jackson is absent. Dora Hegy is absent. Mike East >> forum at this time. Um to do our pledge of allegiance and the KCDS pledge. Unfortunately, we didn't have any little kiddos that could join us today or any students that we have here to join us, but I would still like to uh do both of those to start our meeting. So, please all stand and we can lead ourselves. >> Right. Pledge of favor. I pledge to respectful responsible. One of my favorite parts of

002the meeting I don't get to do because I don't get to ask the kiddos what they're doing. Um, at this time I would entertain public comment for agenda items only. So at this time I would entertain either a um motion to amend or a motion a motion to amend the agenda or a motion to approve the agenda as >> to approve. >> All right. Is there a second motion to approve? >> All right. So Adam and seconded. Any discussion about um the agenda? All right. All those in favor of approving the agenda, please say I. >> I. >> Any opposition, please say nay. There's no opposition. The agenda is approved as proposed. Um, we have uh presentations this evening for uh we're going to start with the marketing and communications presentation from Harry Barrett. Um,

003and if you would like to take the floor, please thank you for joining us. You all want me to stand? >> You can dance. We're coming up to dancing. But thank you for that. Thank you for having me this evening. The ch the presentation is in your pocket. Um so it's going to go to the meet the team. Um that there showcases the team on communications and marketing at choice schools that works together uh with the school level team. Um just a big overview, we have people accounting and enrollment support. We have two directors of communications that support um school level and then interdep departmental work as well. We have a marketing manager that um develops and produces and manages advertising mostly for that. And then we have a graphic design and web specialist that

004handles um a lot of the assets that are heavily designed as well. and then a communication coordinator that does a lot of different tasks and keeps us all project managed really really well. So the next slide there is the agenda um just the what we're going to be talking about today so we can keep moving from there. The um next one with the circles, everyone's with me. I'm going back my teacher days. I cannot with me. Um how we partner with the school. And so the partnership is really important. Us as a communications and marketing team bringing recommendations to the school level team with you know ideas, supports, strategies that we think will work. Um but the school level team is a really important voice in that as well. What is working? What does families

005need? And we're talking retention and recruitment, right? And so, um, we build the bar marketing and communication plan. This is collaboratively developed, but my team utilizes data, um, to help adjust that each year to make sure it's making sense for the school. The enrollment process, that's where our director of people accounting and enrollment comes into play, ensuring that we're compliant, our application has everything that it needs, etc. Um, and then with projections of numbers as well. branch reputation um making sure that the brand of Kingsberry in our community is known and um sought after and then digital presence. So ensuring that we have a really strong social media online and website presence um and you know a lot of different examples there on where my team sets in to do a lot of that build

006the strategy but then also me and the school level team support as well and ownership of we go into community representation. Um this is your top zip codes that make up your student body. Um so you can see there the highest is Oxford which we were picked up. So the location that you are in which is great. Some of our ummies um don't necessarily have the district that they're in as their number one um or city that they're in. This is their number one zip code. That is showcasing that the community that you're in wants to be a part of your community which is great. Um and then the next um section is Metamora. And then it gets smaller and smaller from there. And then 36% though um there's 24 different zip codes represented in

007that category >> which is really interesting. We see that more um in the copy match a little bit but like in where we have a little bit the closer zip codes um but um so a lot of variety and where your kids are coming from. So that is great for your reputation that's expanding out. So when we look at advertisements and child markets this is one of the big driver pieces for us. um retention support. So, a really really key piece of our strategy is ensuring that the kids that are attending here want to stay here and families want to tell uh other families about Kingsberry. And so, uh retention support um we have strategic and purposeful retention planning. And so, at the beginning of the year, Nikki and I met to talk about different

008strategies that she's utilizing to keep students and families engaged. And you know, Kingsbury does a lot of different community events, which I think really helps with retention. Um, so as well as student showcases, allowing students to showcase their talents and work really allows >> some of the thing I I just have a is that okay if I throw it out? >> Absolutely. >> Some of the things inside of this presentation are things that were part of Kingsbury before Char showed up. And so it's not like the marketing and communications team said, "Oh, gee, let's go do Battle of the Books or let's do Wax Museum or >> or let's have summer camp." So, you know, the genesis of those things came from Sunful South. So, >> for me, I'm really interested to hear what new

009things you brought to the party >> in addition to the things that we already had. um because it wasn't really clear to me what is brand brand brand new that um this partnership or or this choice organization is helping us with. >> Interesting. Um, I can't say offhand the one event that my team brought to Kingsbury to say you guys should do this. But honestly, if events are working well and you have a full calendar of events and they're working, we wouldn't want to come in and say, "Stop doing these. Do what works down the street." Because that's >> Well, I understand that. I'm just trying to understand the value that you're bringing above and beyond what we were already doing. >> And I'm really not trying to be confrontational. I'm just trying to filter

010here because I know some of these things were brought forward by our educators, our staff, our parent community, and I know things we've been doing. Harvest Lunch. I've been involved with Pittsburgh for more than 20 years. So, this what that was going on before I even got here. So, you know, I look at a lot of these things and it's just I think important to understand so that we can see and support the ongoing value of the relationship with choice. And it gets muddy when in the presentation we're stating things like there something new or something that Choice brought to the party which we know it's good. So I just like to be able to understand how many new families did you introduce to the Kingsburg community that have now enrolled and are going to

011be you know inside of that is it's 3 368 or whatever inside of that number. um how many new you know just just so that we we can see and say that yeah we had a solid foundation um and we just even improved on that with this relationship with marketing and communication. >> Yeah I think that that's yeah that makes sense and I think that um this overall presentation wasn't broad and I started with that is not to say this is what my team is doing that's it. It's more of an overview of what strategies are being utilized to make sure kids want to stay and families want to stay as well as how we're recruiting students. And again, I think that it would be a bad strategic move to come into an organization and

012say we're going to just take all the events that work and we're going to do these because we're a part of the organization. That wouldn't make sense. And so, um, >> you're still missing my >> Oh, I'm not finished. But, yeah. So with with that too, I think with the events that are happening, we're talking about those. How successful were those? What was the um result of them? What are you doing? Which part of these events are you why are you doing them? Are you doing them to retain students? Are you doing them to engage community? What are you doing with that? I think one thing again I wasn't here before choice was here, right? So I can't say but I can say that I I feel in the last two years with the communication

013for parents being clear transparent and supporting the school leader with communication is retention support and at the bottom there is is just helping to prioritize that transparency and clarity. I don't know what happened before that but I do know that we've gotten feedback that we've seen that they wanted to know more. They wanted to be involved and understand what was happening and why decisions were being made. And so my team specifically has helped the school level team with those communications and you know learning from the feedback that's been provided as well. And so I think that that value has been added as well uh for retention and engagement with families and then knowing also that families have left for certain reasons and understanding that and then utilizing that feedback to support the school level team

014on whatever needs to happen with that. specifically the feedback that you know from the um exit surveys that we have as well. Um so our team manages exit surveys that are sent out from Alli's name to ensure that people that are leaving have the opportunity to give us feedback and we utilize that feedback to help support the school level team to answer to that and give any strategies for it. >> I would I answer it there? No, but >> yeah. Do >> That's okay. >> So, your question is is what value is choice bringing to attention support? >> Well, just in a lot of these things as I read through this ahead of time, there were things in here, as I said, that existed before on a solid foundation. I'm was wanting to be clear

015on how choice supplemented those things or improved those things because I think that's there should be a clear distinction that can be made and I just wanted to understand what that was because as as you know and and you know Ally and Nikki know sometimes on the board we are challenged about why did we make certain decisions and we made a decision to partner with choice and we would make the I personally would make the same decision Again, I can't speak for everybody, but I would make it every day the same decision. And we do make the decision, you know, when we come to these meetings and when we're meeting um with local leadership decision that we're working on that relationship, >> but it also helps when we're challenged by the community because we show

016up at events and >> there are people that have been here a long time and and they want, well, okay, so they've been here two years. What have they done? Well, help me help you. by by being clear and I you know I know what things were already here and I know who started some of them but if you're really clear about you know for instance um what you just stated about the exit interviews that's that's an important piece of information >> the community or talking to other parents >> saying what what is the shame what what is choice done because everybody complains But but if we can figure out, well, here's what they did. There were some families that left at the end of last year and we were able to distill that input

017into something that we could create actionable things for Nikki now to work on and the communications and marketing team helped us to filter through that and we came up with two things that we're doing differently. um Nikki's doing a weekly newsletter that goes out to the entire community that touches on everything from extracurricular activities, recognition of staff, recognition of kids and, you know, pulls together everything that's going on at Kingsbury. It's a one-stop shopping for what's happening and everybody doesn't read it, you know, top to bottom every week, but you know, you now have access to that information. You don't have to dig for it. So when somebody asks me, well, what's going on? What should you be newsletter? It's all in there. >> And so that's that's one example. >> Yeah. and communications developed

018that template and through feedback from different like we've moved some things around and um so that's been a morph morphing project. So yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Communication, transparency, information. >> Yeah. that um in summer camps like how to keep kids, you know, we had talked about that briefly to start and it was like why don't we I worked here all summer and there were no kids on this amazing campus and so bless the staff for coming up with ideas and communications continued to see that through feedback from families and stuff. So I I don't disagree that some of the things we're doing do contribute to in this case we're talking about retention. They do but but I think helps helps us to be able to help you if we can laser focus on the things

019that you brought because I think that weekly communication is power it gets lost. That's that's >> I think also it's the methods to like again updated website that needs it right. Yeah. So like there's just there's a lot that done so like what you already did was showing that success already and then also like we did this but actually come back. So what does that look like? is what is looking for >> no end of areas that we can be strengthened and we want to make sure that we're we're focused on strengthening those places >> and allowing space for other things that are already working well like the wax museum the second day does it's just something that they do allows space for them to continue to do that >> yeah And so supplementing these

020awesome programs that we >> and through their partnership with MAPSA, right, we've got a team going out because they reached out to us and so yeah, I think that there are plenty of things. So maybe just the breakdown of what we're currently doing and continuing going and the things or adaptations, adjustments that we've made throughout the year. Um through that we even take communications for granted because whether a phone call and email away like hey we've got to frame this or we're hearing a lot of this like let's bounce some ideas on how we can correctly you know respond to to the needs that they're sharing >> and some of this is a lot of this is new >> rest of you some of the you know uniquely things activities um are are things that

021they're new. Um, but but I think it's it's important to recognize who has led battles, >> Casey Miller, who's led the battle as a books team >> recognize everything they're doing as part of the fabric working with these other tools and has brought to strengthen. >> Yeah. here because I had people asking well okay choice one of the things you said we were going to get more grades but what grades did we get and you know to be able to very clearly delineate we were doing this before and we're doing it now >> another thing we brought in is um we call them enlightenment nights for our preschool and our JK and then our kindergarten so the parents can come in at their first >> you know touch point of meeting Kings Mary, they come

022in and just get to be able to ask. >> Uh we just had the kindergarten one last week. Preschool one is coming up >> and that's feedback, right? So connecting those pieces, >> just getting them in and getting to meet the teachers before >> and then when we get suggestions from parents and stuff, we can ask certainly. >> Yeah. Like we we talked about the eighth grade families wondering about like the making a smooth bridge or transition into high school. Certainly something that we can work with some staff and >> community on and that can you know and we can build on your experience in other places that as well. So we're meeting plus we're bringing in big things plus we're >> um supporting and highlighting strengthening things that were already in place. >> Yeah.

023>> So >> I think it way it sounds more powerful than it's already happening or strengthening it or supporting it. Yeah, you're right. >> And in no way was that time meant to do that. >> Okay. The recognition of like the strategies that are continuing to be implemented and will be refined and fine-tuned. When big events are upcoming, our team checks in with the school level team to say, "Do you need anything like how to go?" Um, and supporting it. >> And the same as our community to us, our staff and our community. um can suggest and bring things that >> oh yeah someplace else >> that's something that just strengthens charter schools in general the state >> agree >> and gives us that opportunity so I think if we look at it from that

024perspective >> and then any other questions with that slide okay uh next one is about enrollment so like I said we at the cons and marketing team we really kind of divide the strategies, they work together, but when we're approaching them, recruitment and retention. And so, we just discussed retention a little bit, but going into the recruitment side of it, um enrollment support, advertising plans, and so for the second year now, um our marketing manager works uh alongside Nikki to say, "These are what we recommend. This is what has performed, this is how it's performed, these are the strategies that we recommend that you utilize." But again, that school level voice is really important in that. And we adjust. It's not like we make it in January and say, "Well, that's what we're going to

025do." we plan for it through a budget, but if something's not performing, we need to adjust with that. Um, and so we do have those touch bases um that will become more frequent um going into summer just to ensure that engagement happens with the number of applications we have um it's strong um to continue to get more, which we want to, but then keeping them engaged throughout the summer is important as well. So, they want to stay with the decisions they make. >> You helped a lot on streamlining our application. So that that was something we struggled with last year is to figure out where they were on that enrollment journey and we're in a far better place. Yep. >> We did this this and this and now we're >> Yes. The data is there

026for to be able to get it to >> adjust as needed. Are you exclusively using social media and digital advertising? That's currently what we're doing right now for this um budget cycle up until uh June. That Q we say Q2 because we're on like the fiscal year with it, but we know in school world that's >> um and then when the new budget comes and starts in July, uh we'll make adjustments with that. Um we um I didn't have it added in your slides because it's newer, but we do have a um it's a website that is now tracking ad metrics. Um, and within the next couple weeks it'll do it live. So with our social media and our retargeted display, it can feed into it and Nikki will have a dashboard to it. So

027she can log in and when we talk to them, we can see how it's performing. Um, some leaders really dive into that stuff and some are like, I don't know, that's what we're there for. But then if we're if they're wondering and they want to look into that, they have the access and that's why that we can be them up with it as well to adjust if we need to. >> It looks like you didn't really get started until February. Is that accurate? >> That's with that advertising plan in the 2026. So before that, it would have been in the 2025. >> Were we really busy and >> in terms of the advertising? >> Yes. Um March in September and I believe October. I'm thinking back to a chart I was just reading about you

028guys is the social media was really the social media ads were performing quite well. um with that. So, we do advertise throughout the year. Um and we do push it more from February to throughout the summer because that's typical enrollment times, but for you all, because the enrollment was a little bit earlier, we did do run some ads in the fall as well. >> That was sort of the point I was getting to. It seems like it might make some sense to take a look at the the annual spending for that because we and and tie it into our calendar for enrollment and when enrollments open and and get really heavy so I think um you know get everybody's attention to take and I'm I'm sure you know we're we're doing what we're doing now

029but enrollments so >> it's not well enrollment's not >> it's opening applications But but the big push is is five. So moving just a slight adjustment back a couple months would be really helpful. >> Yeah. And we'll so we were saying that so we'll start for the planning of July to the next uh January here in the coming months to decide that and the ad metrics that we have available to us will help drive that plan um that we'll build in for the fiscal year budget or the 26 27 school year budget out of the marketing plan >> and I know Adam you had mentioned like a billboard at some point and they have looked in >> yeah we've looked into that we have done print ads in the past, too, that didn't really go

030anywhere. Billboards are typically really expensive, especially around here. um yeah the digital message because you know I this I'm sure is all very targeted to people with children that's trying to come in but there's also a branding aspect >> and you know that's never going to be addressed in the social >> you know unless you're >> you know unless you fit a specific yeah yeah it's much broader so just want to make sure that that doesn't get lost >> thank just have that included. So you all know the overall target audience we're um utilizing when creating advertisements. So when we're doing social media as well as display um doing that um and you know the main focus is on that kindergarten getting that built from the bottom. But, you know, we know that some middle

031grades and middle school has some space, but we're also very um strategic on how we're adding this. Word of mouth is really the biggest strategy with that. Um, and then the next slide is the advertising design for 2026 that are currently um running um with your branding and colors. So, these would be your retargeted display ads or social media ads that would be on the site. Channel 4, channel 7. >> No, so those are our media channels. And so if we were >> on their web pages, >> um those So this is the overall target audience for everything that we utilize for Kingsbury. So if we had to do a press release for something or we had some type of emergency situation that we would be contacting um we have it all in one stop

032of the media for >> it's not yeah >> not have design audience >> I I think you're going to get into it here in a little bit but you are tracking as well where people are given the application where people are getting word of mouth. >> Yep. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Yeah. Um so the next slide is marketing budget. The top two spends are very straightforward. Uh website maintenance and hosting. A lot of redesign in the last year in support of thanking that website uh was what we wanted it to be and utilize the same thing for that. >> Compliance. >> Yes. Yeah. all the compliance, all the transparency, all the pieces um with that end user experience as well has been really important >> on um adjusting that and then digital advertising is

033the next end with that >> as well. So to the next one, um advertising tracking, I apologize, this isn't the prettiest of the slides, but I just wanted to show you specifically what it was. Um and so on the application that Ally was talking about for this year, um with the digital, we do have how did you hear about us? And so each parent has to answer that question. Um, your top reason or way that people have heard about it is referrals. You guys have a very strong referral program. >> Um, and so, you know, that's great. I think that that's a little bit of the branding and the retention there that's speaking through recruitment is that people want to send their have their friends send their kids here, too. They're excited to talk about

034their school and what they're doing and put that out there. Um, your next one is social media. um is and then Google is what we choose. >> Um with school it's sometimes a little harder. You might hear about it from someone then you Google it or you see it on social media. It's all very intertwined but this helps thrive and help us understand where um people are hearing about us so it can adjust with our advertising and recruitment and retention strength. >> So I two comments. So that's great that referrals are working so well for us. Have we thought about creating some kind of, you know, an 8 and 1 half by 11 trifold or something to have a stack of them in the office so that >> I'm going I'm going to church and

035I want to hand them out at my kids Sunday school or I want to I'm going to a community my book club or I'm going someplace to help me. I'm h I'm really big on Kingsbury and I want to tell my friends about it, but it's something that's grounded. I can put in their hand. They can take it home. It's a piece of paper that they can't just forget about it because they >> we had some done last year. I can have some more made up. >> Yeah. >> I'm just wondering it might even be worth, you know, asking, you know, input from whether it's KPA or or just parents what would be helpful since that's that's such a a big one. Second question, are we um actively managing our Google presence? >> Yes. And

036so our um hosting Stevens Stevens advertising is who does site hosting and so they support that as well as we are actively working to ensure that the site has the words that we want to have SEO be generating for that. Um the new phase of that is with AI and what AI will be um pulling for you. says Google and I'll go to chat or Gemini name your AI system and say where should I send my kid to school or I'm trying to decide what I should send my kid to school >> and when I when I say managing it there have been sadly there have been some unfortunate events um some unfortunate litigation some unfortunate just stuff that has happened are we having anybody try off of a couple pages. >> Yeah. And so

037some of that because the click access to it is a little bit more difficult, but as we put things on our site or have other things happen, we're hoping it can bring it up. Um, so yes, we actively like are searching our schools, seeing what's coming up, how do we want to adjust that um through our team as well. I thought you meant through search engine optimization AI. So >> well no I there are companies that actively do exactly that to so that people don't immediately read about things that we think only that we'd like to get rid of. >> Yeah. we'd like a chance to explain after they've read all the long that that might be something we can think about a little more room to do that especially if we're you know if

038we're getting stuff through social and and referrals is that I know somebody refers me to something that next thing I'm doing is I'm >> just to see I'm looking for reviews or I'm looking for you know we could have a a thing We ask a lot of parents and alumni to put in reviews >> and that's a few Google poss. >> Yeah, absolutely. And um Nick, I can get you to like a one pager for you because are so heavy with referrals. We have like a one pager that we can brand that says like refer leave us a review on Facebook. Here it is. And gives them the stats. Leave us a review on this place and and click it. Um Google has review removed all their reviews uh for schools. Um so which I

039was fine with because um there's a mixed audience that sometimes go to. Yeah. Including students sometimes um that uh have reviewed their school. Um so it just kind of directs parents on how and where they could do that as well. So I'll get that for you. Yes. >> Um and then I'll look into the Google management um from a third party to see if it's something that would benefit us or not and how much it would be. Ally >> that too. You mentioned trifolds. We've also done the yard signs. Like as you're talking, I'm thinking through things and so maybe that's another reboot. Like I'm a proud Kingsbury parent, right? We talked about brand recognition and all the zip codes that we sit in. >> Yeah, >> that might be >> another thing to revive

040because we've done >> these people live in neighborhoods that have other children. >> Proud graduate. Yeah, graduate. eighth grade >> with maybe even pictures, right? We used to I >> brought one to my kindergarten. >> Yeah. >> Yep. I have them for all the sports that my kids Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But we I could think about >> Yeah. stuff like that. So when the kid comes to the graduation ceremony, they take it. >> Yeah. Who of us doesn't love a good cookie? >> A step further because everyone does at the end of the school year senior, right? They're graduating the noise. But if we go around in August and we put a new sign, give it to the families for a new king kindergarten >> family. Welcome to the Kingsbury family. Nobody else

041is doing that. >> Retention and pride with retention. >> Sure. >> Recruitment and retention with that. >> We want to kindergarten. >> Yeah. They're walking through. They're like, "We didn't get to sign." You know, >> maybe some of our current parents will be like, I didn't get a sign. >> Every time we do something new, the people who >> right? >> Okay. Well, 360 yard signs proudly placed. >> Yes. Go. Yeah. Yeah, >> but you know think about advertising. Maybe we he should be doing some targeted drop off referral advertising at the local daycarees like like not the traditional but heartfelt impressions the Goddard school you places like that who maybe are our competitors for preschool but but not for they don't offer the K to8 >> and maybe we can you know create some

042partnerships there for reference and just like we're talking about creating a way to transition our eighth graders into high school them to transition their foury olds into kindergarten at kids. you you do have a unique situation in that we have to be cautious on how much advertising that we do in that realm because you feel naturally the amount of the amount of kids you know it has come up do we go to this open house do we and it's like >> yeah but you might be on a waiting list of you know I hate to encourage people when we know that we're filling up kind of you know within our current so we have been monitoring I've been talking to Carrie and do those is like do we not should we be in all those

043places when it's really becomes far more difficult to to have a spot and so it's that happy medium of >> balancing the amount that are sitting on weight lists which are excessive >> that's the downfall >> don't >> yeah we have >> you have more you know if you have scarcity it makes the the desire increase >> yeah it's the product sometimes though that you there's There's that tight rope that you draw, you know, >> going on a weight list, >> right? We'll get >> to then you get to the top of the weight. >> Yeah. Yeah. For the next year. >> Um that were trying to recruit in a specific way like a grade band is and we found success with it. like what kind of extracurricular activities do students that attend Kingsbury go

044to? Right? This was a classical school. So, we um fit more of those ideas towards the classical model. Um but the same thing here like what are some extracurricular organizations that parents of fifth, sixth, seventh graders would attend and then put build that partnership there. >> Family can come feed the chickens in the garden. >> Yes. These are things that you're not going to get. >> Yeah. And so parents that are already naturally interested in that that might not have attended K4 here because >> they didn't know or they just went the traditional route looking for something different. If they're already participating something that naturally connects with the King's Fairy Way, then that's a great book. So we can get that um to YouTube. So Elsa did that. depend on how success we get and

045pretty straightforward, right? Just build that relationship, give them and I think they got a couple students from um the next slide is that data driven strategy. I think we've talked about it throughout. I just wanted to make a point of it. Um, we really are very data driven in on the comm's team. And so we do utilize advertising metrics to determine engagement, the click-through rate, the enrollment page visits, um, the number of clicks on the enrollment link. Um, utilizing those to determine effectiveness, location of target audience, and enrollment completion. Um, measuring that to say, okay, we got this many applications, this many people were offered, this many people accepted and showed up. So starting to build that historical trend data with all of our schools. we know we've only been a few for a short

046time. Um so we've been building it from the beginning. Um to be able to have those trends and benchmarks at those certain times of the year to say how many did we have last year but maybe this year are we on trend or not? So we can know that we need to adjust or keep with what we're doing. >> Number one is that very specific this year or is that for >> um both? So we're doing a lot more um ad website metrics than we have done in years past um at choice in general. And so the number of enrollment clicks is a measure for us to say how many people clicked the button and how many applications do we have? Because the biggest question is is well we did a social media ad how

047many people do we get from it? It's really that type of cookie and type of data is very very very difficult to get. And so that's one way for us to measure it is they went to the site and they're able to get to the enrollment spot, they clicked it, we can look at those numbers and understand a little bit better. And so no, I can't say Mandy clicked on the Facebook ads to go the enrollment on her computer. We don't have that data, but we have the generalized data that tells us she already. >> Yeah. I'm just trying to explain better and see like how we look at overall market how do we compare to others others understand >> we also that's a part of why we moved everything to digital right for applications

048is papers nice but you can't track those things down so we're allowed to see when candidates drop off >> um you know they they do that for staffing we also do it for students where did they fall off in the process >> so are we getting where they fall application center. >> They they we have the application online and then that supplements our paper um but we start the initiation process. So part of your enrollment is to do the online portion. So yes there's paper to it but the start the start is >> the initial the initial contact to get into. >> Yeah. and they may they may just click and get information and not apply, but that allows us to see or follow up with them about questions they may have with the digital

049process that we have. We can go to our spreadsheets and as we're meeting as a team say, okay, this code has been increasing or this clickthrough rate is increasing. Let's adjust this or it's decreasing. of justice versus having to call a school level team and have a meeting and talk about it. Then we can come to meeting the fiscal investment. It's um driven by um so if you go to the next um slide, this is the web analytics from June 25 to January 26, but I think I was supposed to be with you guys like four months ago. Um, so I kept the presentation because I know I had I adjusted a little bit so we more current. Um, and so I can get um some current stuff to Ally here in the next couple

050months. Um, but the top referers so we are able to um have that on the back end of the website where people are coming from uh to get to the Kingsberry. So Google um Facebook sites which I'm imagine is that's the platform that Mickey's newsletter is built off of. Bing. Um, Bing's a big one recently. I think a lot of AI is pulling from Bing. Um, so same, but we're actually looking into that a little bit in our research chat to know where Bing from be honest. Um, your game apps, that might seem a little odd, but that's your retargeted display ad. Um, so my kids are in sports, we're on Teen Snap. It's not necessarily game, but it's the same type of thing. There's always an ad and I can never find the X.

051So yes, click on it because they >> um I don't know if we're necessarily on team snap, but it's that same idea. It's um retargeting with the target audience and that's that game app. Um and you will see at the bottom chat GBT um number 13. So it'll be interesting to see that goes up over the next couple years for people. Uh top five pages that people are um visiting your homepage and then your own pages second, which from a recruitment standpoint is great. Um, and then from 12:21, sorry, 12125 to February 1226. Um, and that's that enrollment time that we were talking about as well, right? Uh, 934 page visits and 138 clicks on the open enrollment button in, um, just those two short months. So, that's really showing good traffic as well. Um,

052and any questions on that? I can get I'll get updated info to you soon. Um the next one, social media strategies. I know um when Choice um joined your team, uh a revamp on social media occurred a little bit. Um and so continuing to build that follower count. In the next year or two, we will um be building more of Instagram um followers because that is where parents are now more than Facebook in terms of social media. It's a different strategy though on how it was on Instagram. Our social media ads are on Instagram and Facebook. >> Nikki, you gonna start doing some Tik Tok videos? >> No. >> You can do them for me. I'll post them. >> We'll start with >> one of our schools is really strong in social media. Their social

053media reporters are really strong naturally. They love it. Um, and we are attempting to do Tik Tok there this year. It's just so filtered and edited as a Tik Tok and so quick that it it has been hard for like the social media reporter to get that traction. Um, and so we're still adjusting and trying things out uh to make it more systemwide, but not really feeling a lot of success there. Uh, but we are feeling success around like Instagram reels or stories that we can make like 15 second, 30 second things to engage people. So, >> and your social media reporter is being tested. Yeah. No. So, and so we'll we'll keep trying your social media top performers um with you know events and getting people together which was great. Um last two things

054is advocacy and media support. Um we do monitor the legislation and advocacy that is happening working with MAPSA very closely. Um meeting on Wednesday at the chart day at the capital with Representative Kelly um who supports school aid committee. So getting in front of that representative will be really important. Um, we also the charter school transparency law that we have to have the name of both authorizer and management company on everything and then student survey data is needing to be put on the website. So, we're working through getting all of that up there. Um, and media support too, pitching good news stories and ensuring that we're supporting them in any type of crisis if they need media support. And last, but definitely not least, um, is crisis support. So if anything is occurring that is

055needed for communication support um we're there um if you know a big crisis that occurs we're there to help um with the school leader team um but also just things that were like hey we just want another set of eyes on this we want to enure that we're getting the right message across and be a thought partner you know the wide range of spectrum that our team supports communication with as well. So like a like a template for a newsletter that that's important to families that communication and continuing as you're going forward because um it might be valuable and I'm I'm sure that you know looking out a tremendous help. But it might be valuable to have some people, you know, a consulting or support team would be that have a little longer tenure here

056that that might be able to introduce you because I'm I think Nikki and Ally continue to get surprised because things happen that that would be useful to you in some way. You should figure out a way that We have had parents and bring up different, you know, you've brought up different places and made connections. And so if there's ever anybody that says, "I know somebody or place or recommendation of where they think," we always bring those back. That's where some of our other additional ad spaces came from was from our community. So here's my notice that, you know, if there's places that you see as being opportunities where our students are engaged outside of school, absolutely bring those forward. >> Yeah. Absolutely. Oh, that was not that. >> Thank you very much. >> Okay. Also

057in presentations, director of school quality. >> All right. So, I don't know if what I have here is going to answer your questions or not after I didn't bring anything very King's very specific. Um, I was just asked to go through how we kind of vet grants. So if this is not, you can just scare me right to the questions you want answered and I bet I have the answers. Um last week um and asked to come talk about just how we go over categorical. Um, and so I just brought this I just actually I just copied and pasted this right out of our process that we that we have been I was at Kingsberry the end of last week at another school day today. So I haven't been in front of my computer at

058all to create anything. Um, couple things I wanted to kind of I guess point out is the idea of categorical grants which is the kind of grants that choice schools we support are the categorical grants. Um they the majority of the ones that we that we support come through um US ed, Michigan Department of Ed, and the new myite, which I always forget what exactly what it uh stands for, but I do have it written. >> I did maybe I deletif Education advancement potential. Um and my LEAP has been I won't even go into it. I have a lot of feelings about my leap because it's kind of another hiccup in the road uh to get the grant money into the hands of the schools. But um those are really the three agencies that we

059work with. Um and to kind of put it in perspective, categorical grants in Michigan are ridiculous. >> Well, we call them buckets is usually how I refer to as buckets of money used to refer because it wasn't money that was competitive. It's money that you get for the most. >> I'd say probably 25% of Michigan Department of Ed's grants are competitive. The rest of them are just it's discretionary. if you apply for it and you do all of these things, you will get the money and as long as you continue to do all these things, you can keep the money is kind of the way that that that it goes. Um, so to kind of put it all in perspective, when Kingsberry became a charter in what I think it was 2013, um, in 2013

060there were 27 categorical grants available to school districts in the state of Michigan. um there only 14 of them were eligible for charter schools. We're currently standing at about 127 categorical grants that are available and charter schools are um eligible for about 95% of them. So um in I've been working in title one and the federal aspect of this for over 20 years um and with choice for 18 and I mean so you know the the amount when I started I used to joke we had four grants we applied for every year and I couldn't even tell you I mean I think last year I applied for 400 and some grants. So it's just it's a lot of work. Hence the reason why Sarah Mau now is working with me um just to kind of

061help keep our head above water. So, because there's so many of those, what the states effectively done is they've said we aren't going to any longer just give you money, right? We're not going to say here's we're not going to continue increasing our foundation allowance and saying you figure out what you want to do with it. They kind of decided they wanted to have a lot more control. So, we get a lot of buckets of money that are like, "Okay, you can use this money for um you know, a robotics program if you have matching funds from an outside organization that is committed to sponsoring you for the next five years." So, that looks great that we have $30,000 available for a robotics program, but now we also have to find a corporation that will

062give us $30,000 and is going to give us that in increments over the next five years. That's a really hard commitment to get from an outside organization so that we can even acquire money. Right? So that's just one one example. I think that particular grants changed a little bit the years ago. Um we have another one that um is coming up and it is a they call it a mentoring and induction grant that's going to be available for all schools and it's and I have every school contacting me you know so many principles like oh my gosh we want to do this and you know we have we want to have this and that it's great but you have to be able to have and again we're passing on it for we're passing on it

063for the majority of our schools because you have to have the capacity within your building in order to be able to pull your teachers out for a certain hours, certain amount of hours every month to go into your novice teachers classrooms and become a coach. And so as those teachers are out of the classroom, what you're actually allowed to use this grant for is to pay for the substitutes. That's it. So in a huge school district like Detroit, that may be great if they take a hundred $200,000. So, they apply for this and they can use it over the course of a year to do sub money. If I showed Ally that we could probably save $2,000 by going through all of these hoops and having this entire robust schedule with subs coming in, teachers

064coming out to those support your teachers that you know are new. She's probably going to tell me no, I don't even want I don't even want to mess with the logistics of that. So, it's like a lot of this comes down to capacity. So every single one of these grants has that much that you have to kind of go forward and say, "Okay, what are the stipulations?" And so a number of years ago, what I had to do is kind of sit down and be like, "Okay, we have got to rail this in." Because it was constantly just sitting down with the leader and saying, "Okay, these are all of the, you know, everything that's available right now. What do you want and what do you not want?" And they go through and they'd say,

065"Oh, we want this and we want that and we want that." So we would go through and we would write all these grants and things would stop and things. Oh my gosh, we weren't able to get that person hired. We really wanted to use that money to pay for a parent liaison, but we couldn't find a parent liaison. So now we have to give the money back and we have to write all this report about why we didn't use the money. It just becomes this whole thing, right? So what we decided to do is now we go through a um a grant committee that we and this is what's laid out in front of you. We have a grant committee and we take all the memos and the information that's available that we have about

066the grant at the time. Some myap does do a better job than Michigan Department of Ed about telling you exactly what you're going to have to do um the stipulations for the money and we sit down and we look school by school into the strategic plan is where we start. And if this is something that is going to support the academic program that's outlined in the strategic plan, then we put it in the maybe column for that school. Um, and so like the me mentoring induction program I was talking about earlier, we have a group of classical schools that because of Hillsdale, they have an organization that's automatically saying, "We're going to take care of all of that. We're going to bring the coaches in. We're going to come in and we're going to oversee

067this mentoring program and we'll even help coordinate our subs with our college students." Awesome. I can write a check to Hillsdale for five grand to pay for whatever, you know, subs they got coming in over the course of the year and we're done and that program's happening and I can manage that from afar, making sure we're meeting the criteria of that of that grant. Um, so for our classical schools, they have that partnership with Wil. Absolutely, we can do that because we have the capacity to do that. Um, we haven't completely passed, but right now I'm struggling to see how we're going to be able to do something like that across our so that's just kind of, you know, how we do that. So there's a team. It's myself, Sarah Mau, our chief of staff,

068Paris Slater. We have a superintendent and a leader always on that team. And >> our director of operations is also on there. So we kind of go through whether it's a safety grant, transportation grant, a nutrition grant, whatever it is, look at it, figure out what schools that would support, and then we start looking at task, do they have capacity? Do we have capacity for our end of it as well? Um, and then if it's determined that capacity is there, then we start working on writing the grant. And once we get it, if we get it, then we go in and kind of get everything set up so that we have what we need in order to monitor and report. And then my team goes in and actually takes care of all the monitor care

069for you. We don't require schools to do that. So that's kind of our process on where we've kind of had to lie. Um, we do have some schools that have started looking at getting more competitive grants. um our classical schools again are the ones that probably do most of that. Um they hire um directors of development um at a couple of the schools, but it's also their admissions person, their enrollment person. Um it's kind of everything that it takes to kind of keep keep us like the development, right? Like kind of that. Um sometimes it's an assistant principal as well that's doing some of that work. So it's a little bit different of a structure. Um and then what we do is we support that. like I'll go in and help them um with the

070right with some of the writing of it. I'll make sure you know that they have access to any data that they need if we need to do any kind of um touch point with the classrooms to do a little pilot on something and then also making sure everything's set up so that we can collect the data after the the point to give back to that development director so they can go ahead and do the grant management. But that's all the local levels. >> Yeah. specifically here. Yes. >> Since we partnered to >> Yeah. I thought Brian would be here and I didn't and I can pull up my thing if I if I wanted to. I'm going to try to do this off top of my head. Um, I think a great example of it

071would be the Americanore. So, Americanore is technically not a specific grant that was granted to Kingsberry, but it's a partnership that we have that we are able to use those grant funds and we're bringing it to Kingsberry. Um, unfortunately with Americanore, so this is a great example of the work that I do. So, unfortunately with Americanore, >> I was saying that >> Oh, I'm sorry. Americanore is a tutoring program that is currently in the schools that it provides a tier 2 intervention support um that's a lot more focused and targeted than the work that Kim and Kelly are doing. They're dealing more with what I would consider like tier three deeper um deficiencies of students um students that you know with Americaore it's usually like oh we can go in there and do a little

072intervention for five or six weeks and catch them up. >> It's five days to 20 minutes. Yes, >> Guaranteed. And um right now that is done through Marore has a grant. They actually have it's the Michigan reading for Michigan reading for has two grants. They have one through Americanore and they have another one through the Balmer grants. So the Balmer grant was making that completely free for all the schools that were participating. Now Balmer is backing out this year. >> Um they no longer have the funds to do it. So what we're trying to do now is figure out what other grants are out there that we can coordinate behind the scenes. I think we've identified a few. We're just worried about timing right now so that we can continue funding Americanore. >> We do

073have the ability to continue for next year. So I have I have talked to Ryan about that. So >> So kind of figuring out now what grant source can we bring in to kind of recover that because >> what what my job personally is in this entire process is to make sure that the academic program is is sustained. And so like for you know we have some schools where we don't have something like Americanore come in because they either a had a robust program that was taking care of both tier 2 and tier three intervention on its own. The logistics of it didn't work out. Like there's a lot of different reasons. So, um, that would be an example of of a grant that we brought in and now we're actually >> going to find

074an annual basis how much brought in 24 25 and then >> I have that information. I don't have it. I can talk and pull it up at the same time. Um and again come back with next month because we are >> yeah the only thing I will say about that is that's really hard to quantify because like Esser would be an example of that. You know if if if I wanted to at some point to boast to schools to school boards that oh and this year we managed $7 million in in in grant money and we brought that in. I don't think that's fair to say because I we're just managing funds that are available to run your academic program. So like off the top of my head like I mean there's the money that's

075been there to support like the curriculum pilots. Um but again I mean that that's still money that's available to you. We're just the ones that are helping coordinate it. But that's that was one of the I would say a a key decision metric when we were choosing to partner with Choice was um that we were going to have more access to writing grants and access to um grant money and available grants that we didn't even know existed under our previous leadership. Oh, that's okay. I do want to know what kind of what which of the categorical grant we started receiving after and new things did you bring to the Kingsbury funding um once we we joined up with with choice I get asked that question >> in America >> instead of making000 get on to

076the Wi-Fi here. Is that something you think? >> May in May. >> That's 27,000. It's 27,500 >> for Americanore. >> Yes. >> Yeah. Um, you know what? I can I can I can promise you that I can get you the information. I don't know if I can be here to >> Okay. It to you. >> I'll be here if I can. If not, I will have the information to Alli. >> That's fine. or um if you can partner with Brian. >> Oh, well, Brian will be able to tell you off top of his head. >> Sadly, he's not here. >> Yeah, I have a note for him. >> The financial reporting has something that shows it. So, we can highlight that and and share that with the board and with the community. >> I also

077would like just to note that we're managing your grants as appropriately what the grant funds are used for. >> Yeah. I will say that that's probably the thing that's that's been the biggest lift here is we're still trying to get you guys out of compliance. Like you have a you had a lot of non-compliant plans out >> um that we're working through and I we're still working through that. I think it's >> as Jody stepped away, but on behalf of the board, I will say we had no idea that we weren't in compliance because we were misled as a board. >> And so we are very thankful that you're helping us clean up this mess. >> Um, and I know that that's taken a lot of resources and time and that we're committed to doing

078the right thing going forward. But I think it it is important to talk about both of those things where we cleaned up the mess and we um we brought in this kind of this kind of money for Kingsbury to help. And and I think as as Kim points out, how many students have been positively touched by our new ability to do that? >> Your reading recovery program is a large amount. 27 young lives that we've changed because we created this partnership and we got this money and we're able to invest in it. I mean that is really important stuff and some of that kind of thing I think is really important for us to be able to communicate to our Kingsburg community, our parents are and our staff should know, you know, those kinds of

079things, too. Um >> I think you bring up great points. we take for granted the work we do. And so we've consistently been trying to review like how do we make sure that you >> see that value because it's just what we do, but in a new partnership you there's so many things happening behind the scenes that we talk about this all the time is oh we take it for granted. So that you bring up really valid points >> that would help things. >> Yeah, I think this is all important. Good stuff. >> Yeah. >> Important good stuff that we don't, >> you know, it's going on and it's churning behind the scenes. >> Just appreciate >> you sess. >> Okay. coffee. >> So that's a that's a great meeting that maybe in years forward

080we can start highlighting to get some participation >> or in her we can we can make your weekly newsletter even longer. >> A lot of there's a really great data that's kind of done for public >> yeah our digestion. It's very like it's it's done nicely, right? Um that kind of really highlights some of that. So, um I think that would be good. Um >> but I think you could tell parents so that they they understand because a lot of them don't even understand the basics of how charter funding different than >> it doesn't hurt to put a refresher out there every once in a while and maybe it's a whole separate newsletter that talks about um our partnership and your year here or the year in review. Maybe it's because there's not a lot

081going on in the school come July. Maybe maybe that's the kind of thing that we send out to the community and because by the time you get to August or the plan for the next school year, maybe July is the month where we can talk about the year in review. Um we won't quite have the budget done by so there there's not a lot of Yeah. But but if we can talk about these things and and you know celebrate that as a community we've accomplished these we've had interventions for the set of kids. We've been able to you know whether it's improved test scores or just improve quality of life. >> Yeah. >> Through some of the stuff that we've been able to do. We've been able to supplement safety in the building. >> Yep.

082>> We've been able to get ourselves out of the quicksand we were sinking in. just again and you know with the communications folks maybe you can come out with a way that that we craft this this message but if you get the sense of what we're talking about doing I think there's some really good stories and and we just have and it's part of what we do every day right and what Ally and Mickey and you guys do every day but we need to share it with the community so they understand >> some of the things that are going on that are behind the scenes but are really critical Paul, do you guys distribute your annual education report to you? >> I I don't think I've seen it, but that >> No, it's posted on

083our website and we talk about it at the board meeting, but I don't think >> and that's that's really old data by the time that report comes out. >> Something that's spec not not the generic stuff, the stuff that's specific to things community and and what we're doing here. that would be good for new families to sort of hear about this. But I think it's also a good refresher for families that have been here a while, tell them about the things that are going. We said when we through this partnership for some specific reasons and here's what we've been able to accomplish and looking forward, we intend to, you know, continue Here's the thing is it gives and then maybe they can show up at a board meeting and ask some good questions. >> So

084the big thing isn't just to understand that you know there is kind of a different but competitive large like DAO grants and Kellogg grants which we do have out there and you know in the across the company those are not service directly through choice schools. just helps support as we those are local but those are also ones we don't take a fee out of >> so that's part of that local grant walking through how that looks at other schools you mentioned of an assistant >> or vice principal will look at the development process >> yeah I mean I think I we have one school for the assistant principal the majority the other one. >> It's a large scale. >> It's a very large school. The other ones are going to have someone that's a little

085more focused on that or they hire a a grant writer. So, grant writers only take a fee if they actually um >> have a grand >> get the award. And so, you know, a lot of times they will um, you know, they might write six grants for you and only get one, but, you know, you're paying them only a percentage of what like three or four schools that just have one of those on contract that when something does come up, we call them and say, "Hey, you know, this is something that someone's interested in doing." >> Yeah. How are you aligning the execution strategies of each individual school that posts? >> So I mean if I'm honest I would say 90% of strategic plans are the same. I mean you're trying to in you know

086student outcomes are going on. I mean it is I mean like you know really there's a flavor of all the schools that's really what you're honing into probably at the very specific individual school level. Um, I've been around long enough. I just kind of know in the back of my head what all those different schools, you know, what the kind of the the MMO of the individual schools are. Um, and so what we do is I mean it's just it's a master spreadsheet and it just kind of highlights those things. We have a rub rubric we will go through and grade um not only like what the benefit would be but also um you know what what would be even a realistic amount of money we would be able to get out of it. And

087there's been times, I mean, we've had awards come through before that were too much that we're just like, "Oh my god, what are we going to do with all this money? We only have 300 kids in this school." And to use them within the Yeah. Yeah. But to use them within the context of, you know, this is all for intervention, it's like, "Oh, wow." >> You know what I'm saying? But like I mean and that's a terrible examp >> Yeah. You're not >> we aren't going to where why who was who in the right mind thought this was a great use of this $2 million it was sitting around somewhere right so we kind of go through and we're going to do all that so I mean yeah we do take it school by school

088but 90% of >> I'll use an example from your strategic plan Mike if that can help is right we part of your strategic plan is to and is to be looking into the school nutrition programs right so we're collecting data behind the scenes We're talking to vendors and then we are in the meantime, >> right? >> So then there's >> right so then we can go search those out. Same with like environmental grants or transportation grants to help pay um like Wheels to Woods is a grant. So there's a lot of these small pieces. I've found grants to get people to PD without any cost to them. Right. So again, there's like these small pieces that we do that are very minor and then there's the larger ones, but we take your strategic plan and

089say they want a school nutrition program. We got to do some feasibility studies and then we've got to determine where that money might come from. And so that's a more Kingsbury specific way of looking at >> is trying to understand from a board strategy standpoint >> like pivots like if we understand what grants are readily available to us and for the robotics example you know there's company that's tied to that >> I work with Joyce and the board to navigate that to figure out maybe we do want that part of the strategic plan because there's >> so very it would kind of be like a multi if you had a a specific few organizations you thought you might want to like partner with like DA or something like that, you know, or one of those

090like, you know, we would we'd be able to go in and kind of help hone in and maybe you would want to change your strategic plan to have something like um for instance, we're opening up a new classical school in Midland right now and they're the ones that we're kind of doing some work with um with and so going going in and saying, "Okay, they really like um I'm trying to think of an example. I just did this. They Okay, so for that one, they do not like anything political. So for that particular grant application, we can't even talk about the fact that we're affiliated with Hillsdale because that would be something that would be a big old X for multiple reasons on that. So, um, you know, and then the other piece of that

091would be right now I would really warn you not to go in and change your strategic plan to try to bend what the states doing right now because they don't know what they're doing and I think that my leap is a great example of that. Like there's a lot of politics at play right now. So, um, a lot of Democrat initiatives are being done through Miley and traditional and more conservative initiatives are being still handled through Michigan partner that supposedly that's going to change now that the new superintendent's in place because him and the governor are going to play nice, but we don't know like that's a new relationship. They're still trying to get to know each other. So, I think that would probably be a really great thing to think about in a year

092or two when with us subtles in Lancing. I would not do that right now because I think that I I don't even know like my hope is my leap goes away and that's not even a thing and we can just go back to life as normal. We won't have any categoricals, go back to a normal kind of cadence where education's dealing with education um you know and let all the human services deal with the other stuff and stuff like that but we're just not there right now. So, I would kind of warn you against that temporarily, but that might be a great thing to look at in a couple years when you revise your strategic. >> I think that there's an opportunity there to align better from a board standpoint. They're just so >> all

093over like they'll approve a program and then take it back or they're adding programs and thinking what I it's just I wouldn't tell us I wouldn't tell anyone to do anything based on Michigan >> if it's not pretty but I'll stop talking no I'm just I'm kind of curious too now is an opportunity future to >> could be a future. Yeah. >> Champion track what resources are needed for plants for what other >> I think a point was made earlier that some other places Um, and maybe that's something Ally and Mickey can look at as they're, you know, looking forward at job descriptions for staff and and whatever. this might be a good fit and that no but so I think you make the wheels and something we ought to be doing but we're not

094going to run headlong into something and change how we're doing it. Yeah. >> We're going to take a very measured approach because you want to stay in business during renovations. >> Well, and you want to build sustainable programming, right? So, it's great if grant money starts, but we really want to consider the long-term feasibility of keeping it because if we're going to take the time to do it, you know, I think that that comes back. That's why we ask for approval if we go outside and add any grants is because we want to know the board's commitment to it and where do we put it if the grant goes away, right? So, yeah. I agree 100%. The and the my beef right now with a lot of the afterchool summer programming um is they aren't

095making long-term commitments to it. And so what it's doing to a lot of schools is setting them up for these very short-term programs. Then the ne and we we have it happening in a lot of schools right now. Why is that? Why aren't why don't you have that program? Why aren't you running math this this summer? Last year you had three math interventionists. Now you only have two and it's because the funding like after COVID there was money for everything. And one thing Ally did an amazing job at with all of her schools um was making sure to look at that long term and say, "Okay, if we add this program, that's great, but we need to be able to sustain it for a minimum of five years." And so, is the board committed enough

096to this program that if we add it that we can, you know, >> Yeah. or can we intervene our way out of needing it? Right. Like that's always the hope, right? is we're finding out gives you so much time to get a summer program. >> Um, and then on top of that, will the money be available next year? And that's might be that they aren't making those long-term. >> You you don't have a high-risisk population. So, a lot of them do get tied to that. But I I think you're on to some there are some communities that send out like there's environmental organizations that I work with that send out like here's a list of some grants and things and it may be um wise of us to just kind of monitor those and send

097them your way and maybe as a board you'd be willing to kind of look through some of those because you could look for grants for days and find a billion. Um, and so if there's certain things that you would like us to seek out, and then in the flip side, if if I find something and say there's a lot to look through, might you take a look and see if anything and then we go back and check to see if there's the strings necessary. We could do kind of a twofold back and forth just to kind of throw some ideas out. But right now, I'm specifically looking for things that are in your strategic plan. >> And I think it's important that's why we need to understand exactly where we are. Yeah. we know where

098we were. We're still cleaning out that here's where we are. >> And then if we take our strategic plan as the road map going forward and and put some and some structure around who on staff can take this on, how choice can support that, how board can support that. Now we have a roadap going forward. >> I think that's that's really what we need to translate to. Can I close up here? I wouldn't pause. >> We have her. >> Well, thank you very much for all of the time. >> All right. So, moving along, the approval of the March 16, 2026 meeting minutes. Those are going to start on page, it's 7:22. I would entertain a motion to approve the March 16, 2026 meeting minutes. Adam supports. Is there any discussion regarding those meeting minutes?

099All those in favor of approving, please say I. I. >> Any opposition, please say nay. Hearing no opposition, those minutes have been approved. Moving on to board correspondence. Um it is my understanding through board correspondence um that we do have a board opening that is or our board applications have been extended to May 10th because we haven't had any applications or received any applications at this time. And with that I am going to also indicate that I have received notification that another board member um is going to resign affected at the end of this school year. You >> That's correct. Uh just an open letter here to Jod and the Kingsbury Country Board. Please allow this to serve as my official notice of resignation from the Kingsbury Country Day School uh board at the end

100of the current academic year effective June 30th. Due to increasing personal responsibilities and professional demands, I feel I can no longer provide either the KCDS board school or the academy the level of commitment it deserves in serving the school community until the end of my current term, which is June 30th of 2027. It's been my honor to be part of the KCDS community. First as a parent of four students when it became a charter school in 2013 and then as a board member for over 10 years. I take pride in the numerous accomplishments the board has achieved over the years. Most importantly being that we've provided a safe and rigorous academic environment while offering students a truly unique learning setting both in and out of the classroom. During my tenure, the academy faced shifting leadership

101and school management changes and challenges. And yet through it all, the board remains steadfast in its commitment to the students, families, educators, and the greater KCDS educational legacy. We've remained dedicated and focused on the core task at hand to successfully prepare our students for the next level of their educational journey. I'm confident in the current board choice schools team and the acade academy leadership to continue the success and I'm confident our students will continue to soar for years to come. I'm happy to continue to serve the KCDS community through the end of the academic year and I will aid in the transition in any way deemed helpful. I'm confident that the other members of the KCDS community will be eager to step forward and readily serve in order to continue the growth and success of

102our fine school. I guess we will accept. >> Thank you for all your um but uh and Adam had spoken with me um about this decision between um last board meeting and now and I want to thank you um for the help and I mean for being on the board for so long and helping navigate a lot of these things. um you will be no state a part of the board. We are going to force you to helping us through a transition though. >> Um and we'll be happy to see you here until the June meeting. Um but with that said, we do have board member vacancies. So if you know anybody, I don't know if that's something that marketing might be able to help us with. Um but we are unfortunately kind of uh

103not being successful in the in seeking applications. So um Ally has been seeking the sure that we don't miss an opportunity because as we're going into this next year, we have a five member board that will only have three members. So, you like to share more about what some of the um what you're looking for in your next board members, what Yeah. the skill sets. I just thought since you're broadcasting that might >> I mean we're just we're looking for somebody who is committed to the community similar to what Adam was saying. Um we are looking to fill a treasurer position. But we do want to have somebody who's got the um ability to do balance sheets um understand uh assets uh debt uh data >> view profit and loss making sure that we understand

104how to read financial statements um and making sure that we can again see the big picture with not just where we're at right now but where we want the community to go because I would say in the past few years one thing that our financial um subgroup has done exceedingly well is not just make sure that we are conservative in our numbers, but also making sure that we do have um an excess uh balance sheet so that we are putting things very in the best positions possible so that we can um continue to financially support the school and and make advancements and things that we want to bring into the community. Um, and you can ask somebody you'd like to offer a side what we're looking for. Oh, I don't want to give a sign.

105Um, and just just somebody who wants to help with a golf outing. Um, and and remember at the end of the day why we're upgrading, which is for kids, right? We've got a community and and every one of these children deserves to have somebody who's going to be committed to making sure that their educational um especially their foundational educational um experience is exceptional, which is what I've experienced as a a parent of students. You exist because you're unique. And so getting to take part in building and supporting a school that provides an opportunity that you can't get anywhere else in the area is really really you know that that's a give back work that you can feel >> and see it come in. Unfortunately I didn't have the kiddos but yeah and take what we

106do well and engage more with it so that we become stronger and better as we move forward as a school. people I think. Um anyway, um moving on. Does anybody else have any board correspondence that they were aware of what they heard, bad, communicated? Um I did there was board communication received from um a parent um regarding some specific instances um that were happening but that is all I had for board. Right along to finances the March 2026 financial statement um and I think that's going to be Sandy starts on page 27. Um nothing really significant in March. um and continue with with the good news of strong cash balance. Um strong money market um we can continue to um and and in answer to a request that we put out, Brian is able to

107calculate our fund balance. We had some discussion about that in the last meeting >> and right now we're projecting a fund balance of 40% at the end of this fiscal year >> which puts us in great position um to do some of the things we talked about in terms of compensation ensuring that we're recognizing our staff that fund balance is really high. Just from a perspective though at the end of last fiscal year um June 2025 we're at 42%. So basically not too much change. So we thought our way through this year where we thought we had a huge deficit. We've been able to claw back >> um point where we're still at 40%. Um that's really extraordinary by and for four or five years nobody needs to take out a loan to bumble our

108way through the fall. Um and we were just not forced to do that anymore. So, we we've got to a place where we think we're we're doing um job with the funds that are available to us and um we probably in a position to let that fund balance some who invest in some things and invest in the people who >> Ally, did you want to add anything else? >> Yeah, we we're right on track to meet budget. probably do better then. Um and and you know there's been things that we've been doing like technology audits and things so that Nikki knows the exact number of staff computers that we should probably replace the number of student and so maintaining that and that's a great piece to come out of your fund balance is you can

109replace that out and and get some refreshment with that um along with along with understanding you know curriculums and those costs and so great opportunity to to really take the things that have been noticed and being able to invest in it. And that's that's really a great thing from the board um to the school to be able to say we can supply your needs. Um so appreciate it. It's been a long time. I know it's hard for the board to spend money knowing that they've worked so hard to get here. So >> yeah, and I think it's it's important and we want to make a commitment to do our best to invest um between now and the start of the next school year so that start with >> better technology. Um and and and I

110think the the thing too is we want to make it okay for staff um and and administration to come forward to the board with requests because I know for a a long time everybody knew we were in this fiscal restraint position appropriately so as we got ourselves to where we are and you know we lost some families last year and we were trying to fight our way through that but we we've been able to come out the other side where we think we're going to we're going to meet budget and I think we were um 140 160 in the red um when we started out the school year, but we've been able to do some things. So now we're in a position we want to encourage everybody to >> um bring forward those things that

111you've been sitting on that are really going to help do the job better and and help um strengthen the educational experience for our kids. And if we can funnel those through Nikki and myself first and then we come through finance committee and and just to note the fund balance when it's gone it goes away. So there is an opportunity where we say okay if we know that we've got to maintain these things to to hold on to some of that so that we can do these things like technology you know you don't want to replace all of them for next year because you're going to be in the spot five years from now and will you have that? And so it's the non-recurring costs that are often um spent out of your fund balance. So

112those those are some opportunities that that work best for those funds. >> Keep the ideas coming. >> And at this time I would entertain a motion to approve the March 2026 financial statement. Fanny moves. Is there a second? The 2026 March financial statements. Any further discussion regarding these? Okay. All those in favor, please say I. >> I. >> Any opposition, please say nay. Hearing no opposition, those March 2026 financial statements have been accepted. Right along to academics. There's nothing in the book packet about academics, but just update um we are currently actively testing for MSTEP. That will finish May 8th. um actually a couple days before. Most teachers are finished like May 6th and then we will jump into NWA right afterwards. Um kindergarten through 2 grade will begin May 4th and then third grade

113and up will begin May 11th for NWA. So just a short little break for our older kids. Um but like I said, most will be finished about May 5th or 6th with MSTEP. >> Thank you. took their >> Oh, yes. They took that um what just today? Two weeks ago. So, that's done and they'll get their school reports this summer. >> All right. Anybody else on All right, moving right along into old business, our standing fundraising committee update. Uh those meeting uh just a few weeks ago, we'll be meeting again on uh funds to be transferred hopefully. Um >> I gave that to Sue almost two weeks ago. So it should she said this check cycle so you guys should see it. >> Everything is set up for the first September. It will be at

11410:30 downtown start with allowing 9:30 station with Sandy and I'll be putting up uh sign up genius like for the day and then also a lot of work and we will ramp up here as we move to 600. Thank you very much. 12 uh new business we have had um or we have the officer appointment um which given that we don't have any new applications yet or new board members appointed um I would suggest that we table that item for a future board meeting >> I recommend June because by the time they get the applications in SPSU um so instead of just moving it to the next month I we would know if we have applications potential new board members by So at this time, thank you. I would entertain a motion to move the

115officer appointment item to the June 2026 meeting. Adam moves. Is there a second? See these seconds? It has been moved and seconded to table um or move the officer appointment item to the June meeting. Is there any discussion regarding that? Discussion is black people, you know, who wants to help and feeling like they can serve our community. Please, please, please. forward on or move the item to the June meeting. Please say I. >> Any opposition, please say nay. To our June meeting. Thank you very much. annual ESP evaluation on page 47 there is our feedback summary from last year and then I believe is it May is for us to >> y >> um evaluate there is in the packet there's a QR code so please fill that out even though >> for a board

116member sitting up here I'm going to continue on serving um into the next year please still do fill that out for >> yes in the specific conversations that feedback they provided here was super helpful. Imagine putting that into writing that helps us get better. So, um if there's any opportunity for you to make some of those notes, um that's how we serve you better. >> Okay. >> And the draft 2026 2027 board meeting calendar is >> 76. Yep. >> Everyone else has it. Thank you. There it is. Um and there Sandy had gone through um earlier and has already identified some of the conflicts um as far as dates and I think that um Ally, you've also gone to potential different dates, some recommendations. Do you want to read through those for >> Yeah. So

117just >> Yeah. Um we we built the draft on the cadence, right? So your third Monday and then now we're placing it on top of the school approved calendar so that we can recognize events and and days off. And so yes, we do have five conflicts starting in September with our golf outing. >> Um I might recommend the 23rd or the 24th for that one. Um >> the 23rd is a half day. I think a day that's not a half day might be here. Okay. So, so from board members, does that seem >> we do reconfirm every month and as we see things in the future, the board has done a nice job of saying let's just confirm our availability for the next couple, but um so it sounds like we'd be considering a September

11824th versus a September 21st. >> Right now, that looks like that would fit. >> Okay. And then October, you proposed October 21st. >> I know it's a Wednesday. It's a Wednesday. Is it next day? >> All those are break. Yeah, your fall break is the 19th and the 20th. So, we recognize that board members may be with their children. >> Okay. As well, December 14th. So, the current scheduled date, right, runs into our break. And so what I asked is that's the first Monday of your break. I because of my other board schedules can make that work that if we moved it back the previous Monday that way you're not trying to meet that week >> or the 14th >> is MLK which we bump into due to your cadence and so um recommended the

11919th or the 21st >> would work. So the 19th obviously is the day after. Um this year we seem to run on the two that conflicted January and in February you moved to Thursday. So I wanted to put that as I don't >> although that ended up being a problem. >> Right. Right. So um but I think if we can reschedule those now hopefully we can support those changes but in February again. So was 17 or 18. >> Yeah. February 17th or 18th or >> there's no half day or >> must be the 17th. >> So we're January 19th, right? February 17th. So they're both following that same next day cadence. Okay. >> Well, that was easy. All right. So, with those amended um dates and also recognizing that we may come into some issues

120later on that we might have to address before or you know as potential conflicts will arise. Um I would entertain a motion to approve the 2026 2027 board meeting. Sandy moves. Is there a second? >> Mike second. >> It's been moved and seconded. Is there any further discussion regarding the board meeting dates? Um, and then I do want to before we do take a vote on this, one of the things that we had discussed and I just want to make sure um that it's something that we'll look at is adding once this board um meeting is approved, the board meeting schedule, putting those in line with our school calendar, so that they can all be in the same place so that people can kind of see >> what we've got all in one place as

121opposed to having to look into different spaces. >> And I I think what we'll do is bring that compiled calendar to you in May for board approval. make sure that we date it because anytime you publish a calendar, somebody's held on to the old one. Yeah. But make sure that we're dating that and updating our calendar on there and then making sure that's the only one. So for our our community, you hold a different calendar and we'll be sure that if there are any updates that we're making sure that's communicated, but also note that the updated date will be on the calendar so that you can kind of see quickly and reference whether or not you've picked up an old calendar. >> Okay. So all those in favor then of the um board meeting calendar

122as amended, please say I. Any opposition, please say nay. Hearing no opposition. Um those updates within that calendar have been approved. And to the lower school HB update. >> You want that? I take it. >> We both been working um with the trust on this. So, um, we did have some concerns brought to us, um, around lower school. It's to note that that isn't something that seems to have been heard before. Um, so, uh, working with the trust, um, we we know that some temperatures were taken from a phone, so we did actually install thermometers into each of those classrooms that those concerns were brought up um, so that we could monitor them and kind of track that. And so, um, we have been in close communication with the trust and they are going to

123be meeting to decide kind of where at this point we may be doing some supplemental heat on those days that that it does get a little bit cooler and then they're working on the more long-term plan. So, having somebody come out um do a little bit more diagnosis of what instead of doing what they think might work. Um, I know we they did the windows and doors and hoping that that, you know, might tend to, you know, any air escaping or getting in. Um, but also there's been some troubleshooting that, um, we're finding maybe we need to do as that those issues come up. So things like, okay, if the temperature is reading low, having somebody go and make sure that the furnaces are firing at that time, that they're warm, that they aren't cold

124and haven't been. Um, also monitoring uh temperature consistency. So in that building it may not be able to recover. So let's make sure that we're not turning our heat way down in the evening as an energy saver, but making sure that we do keep it up so that it it's not trying to catch up from those cold nights on a regular basis. So uh not only is the trust doing some investigation into what a larger fix may be, but we're also troubleshooting to see if there isn't something else that's new wrong because this isn't it doesn't seem to be from our knowledge or from the trust. They didn't say that they had heard this year after year. This is something new. And so we also want to make sure that the the system that's in

125there is functioning as it should and that there's not something that we're missing there. >> It's a big >> Oh, no. We did, I guess they did come out once and realize that one of the filters had kind of like fallen in and so was doing a little bit of blocking and so we need to do some troubleshooting with their help and Howard's given us some really good ideas to kind of go in and say let's take a look are those things quickly noticing so that we can have you know if it's a furnace not firing up let's get the furnace company out here to resolve those things are important It might be valuable to just like we do such a great job with our safety document creating a preventive and predictive maintenance book for

126the lower school and for the upper school >> so that we can go through and when we get new people coming into those positions >> and that also so Nikki as the school leader can look at any you know it should be office >> and can look at any time and say, "Oh, yeah, we have done the fall maintenance, you know, >> change out the filters." Sure, they're in place. So, it might be as simple of, you know, in in August, we order new filters. In October, we change the filters and we go back and we check and we do temperature checks for two weeks and just get ourselves into that team to help build a little. >> Yeah. >> So works for >> transitions and >> the transitions also helps for cleaning in terms

127of having but certainly preventive and predictive maintenance is something that could be and I'm happy to help with that. >> Yeah. And it's you know we're new to the building too, right? And so >> that's what I've heard. Yeah, just >> this is rather, you know, it's really important to continue to have these kinds of issues if we don't get ourselves into, you know, a payday, >> right? And that's what we've been talking about, right? Is we're the board. we're responsible for preventative, you know, and the trust comes in when there's something that isn't working. And so, um, I I agree. We've been trying to calculate like create some of that on that five-year operations plan, but it's not as detailed. And I think that's a wise decision of instead of just putting it on

128there, like make sure that we redo these is the cadence of that and then it's all documented in one space. Yeah. Yeah, by by month and and then >> you could also do a racic so we're clear on who's responsible who check who who's >> who's checking who's ordering the filters who like so that there's just no question about what needs to be done when it needs to be done who's doing it who's checking that it was done and then also the users that the population of teachers and and staff also will this is when we're doing it if they have input and if the trust has input and you know what we think a month earlier >> let's just get an agreement so that it's a collaborative plan going forward um because it really

129hurt my heart to hear people from a lower school last time talking about the environment um that they're forced to work in and who have you know little kids in 55 degrees >> none of us want that >> Yep. And you had confirmed with um the teachers down there and everybody in that building that it wasn't something that was happening last year. It just seems to be a this year issue. >> I haven't heard Have you heard anything different? >> They changed with the windows, but it hasn't been like they did the windows over the summer. >> Right. They said it was cool. I think we've pinpoint like >> really honed in on recognizing that it's a they said it's cold, but we're trying to do things to really hone in to figure out what

130the problem is. Instead of saying trust, it's a guess. we can say, well, let's here's a temperature reading, here's the time of year, and so we can track this so that >> you know, I hate to have them investing in something that's not going to resolve the issue. >> Absolutely. And that's why I wanted to make sure that we're checking. >> They have said in years past, I guess, that it's cold, but they have really pointed out this year that it has been excessive in comparison to last year. predictive maintenance plan. We can have a troubleshooting like when do you have >> that's what we started building that today. >> Make sure that temperature make sure that the filters are clean should be not blocking air flow through their we can get our maintenance guys

131measure measure the temperature. Let's just do all of that so that when we have an issue that we go to the trust with, it's a real issue. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Okay. >> Maintenance estate. >> Yep. So, that was lower school. We had a company come in almost two weeks ago now. Um, and they did a three-day, three night very deep clean of the building. um any surface that was touched, they came in and they cleaned and sanitized it. Um they like everything they were there three nights, five, six hours a night with the team. >> Both buildings, >> just the lower school building. Okay. >> Um >> it's improved. >> Yes. Yes. >> It's been a short time. >> Yes. Yeah. So they came in um they even did things like pulling out some

132of the rugs and deep cleaning some of the rugs and spraying them down and wiping literally like from high to low. They got everything. They did a pretty good job in there. I was pleased with them and they're available in the future if we need to. >> Have staff reported any >> they've noticed it? Yeah. the like the first night I said, "How's it look?" I'm like, "Oh, yeah. We can definitely tell a difference that you know there's you you're looking at like cabinet handles. You're like, "Oh, yeah. That was definitely waxed and cleaned. You can tell." >> So, they tried to get anything that any hand, adult or child would be touching. And they scrubbed it pretty well and staff noticed it. So, >> and hopefully with our cadences as we're talking >> Yes.

133>> cleaning and doing these things, we can not necessarily need that because the things are being addressed. >> Yes. now a little kind of a blank slate so to speak >> and and for the staff that came forward, right? Like recognizing that if we do need to pull an inside an outside company because sometimes that happens, right? Sickness is flowing through that we can do it sooner, right? So the acknowledgement that we should have done this better and sooner and and now we >> like it was a mistake and we're working to help resolve it. >> All right. Thank you very much. Any other desserts that only have >> any visit? >> I do have it in my report. >> Um so you have no update. Okay. Well, thank you for joining us. Um management

134company report. This is going to start with um school leader report. >> Yep. So mine is on page 77 >> and this is the updated one. >> Yes, it is >> one that I print in there. I said April 256, but the information was not updated, so I apologize. >> Um, so first I will start with um updates on reim numbers. Um, so I'll just go grade by grade, let you know what we have for current filled seats, what we have for weight list, and what we have for offers out. Um, so starting at kindergarten, we have 38 seats confirmed with two offers out and then 36 on weight list. and the offer out we were talking today. Um that paperwork may be here and filed. We just have to verify it. So all of

135the offers >> Yeah. 36 on the wait list for kindergarten. >> It says here >> So >> two offers are out. >> Two of the offers are out. So the numbers are coming to total at 40. It's just two of them are um non- siblings that are, you know, fresh families coming in, new families coming in. >> We didn't have a chance today to check whether or not their paperwork had committed come in to commit to that. So, >> obviously one of those two. >> Yes, there's there's we got plenty. >> Yes. >> Um first grade 42, we don't have any offers out. We have 20 on a wait list. Second grade 46, no wait, um, no offers out, 13 on a wait list. Um, we have third grade 46, no offers out with a

136five on a wait list. >> I double check. >> Okay. Yeah, thank you. >> I know they're different. >> Um, fourth grade, we have 45 seats. One offer is out. We did have one student that dropped within the last 30 days out of fourth grade. So that's included in that number. So they're not coming back for next year. Um and that leaves us seven on a wait list. Fifth grade, we have 41 with three offers out and no wait list. sixth grade 44 seats, one offer out, and one student left within the last month. Seventh grade is 34. >> Nobody on the wait list. >> Nobody on wait list on six. No. So, there's no weight list past fourth grade. K through four has our weight list. Um, sixth grade is 40. Just did that

137one. Seventh grade is 35. Sorry, 34. We had one student that dropped within the last month as well for their >> like current year dropped >> current year. Current year and next year. They're not coming back for next year. And then eighth grade we have 24. Um that was just a student that decided not to come in for eighth grade. So it nobody that's like transferring up or anything. Do you need me to repeat any of those? >> The total is total should be right around that 366 mark. You give me a second. I can pull it up. I show a total of 360 with those numbers. >> Can we do the fifth grade again? >> Fifth grade 41 >> with three offers out. >> Yes. What was that? >> So, fifth, sixth, seventh. Was

138it a count for count? >> Yeah. What was that? >> Uh, that's on the back page. It's 3:30. >> So, we got we've There we go. >> 332 is spring. >> So, we've got >> we have we've increased. So, we have our we do have uh I should know this right off the top of my head. We do have an expected enrollment. We will budget off of what we have in the spring, right? That's always best. We do have an expected enrollment as we've been talking about um right into the 342. I want to say it's right around there and that's where we break. >> Yes, that's where we can keep all what we have and maintain going forward. So, yes, but we are so far well over >> Yes. with the ones we offer.

139>> Oh, okay. Yep. All the offers that they accept. Thanks. So, 360 and 367. >> So, the 360 number does not include the offers that are out. >> Correct. That's just the ones. >> Yeah. >> Um on Wednesday, our dance team is performing at Charter Day at the Capitol. So, that'll be fun. Uh plan on being there to watch that. Um, our seventh and eighth graders just came back from Boston at like what, two o'clock in the morning on Saturday. So, next month we will bring you uh highlights from that. They're still trying to recover from sleep. So, I'll ask some students to come. >> Yeah, you can say it during your three minutes. >> Um, April, starting tomorrow, we have parent teacher conferences and then again on uh Thursday, parent teacher conferences. Earthwalk May

1401st and the KPA is doing a hot dog lunch. So, make sure you order that. >> Can we say what do you have the date off the top of your head for the last little >> um the hot dog lunch was it? No. Oh my god. >> I feel like they had it open for this week at least when my >> Yes, please. The t-shirts have closed. So, they're no longer selling the t-shirts, but the hot dog lunch was still open as of this week. Um, April 29th we have our middle school um concert. So that's coming up soon. >> Yes. >> No, we won't. That's it. Be quiet because all sorts of other weather's in the mix. So >> yes. Yes. Um and then as it's getting warm, I just want to remind um

141all of our families that do the pickup line to just follow directions of those who are out there. Please give us a little bit of patience. Um, and if we can avoid parking on the grass, we're trying to get it to grow again. Um, there's plenty of spots in the dirt. If we could please park on the dirt. >> You don't know what might be there. Um, you know, underneath there. So, >> is it designated to wait until they can come? >> Correct. It's at the beginning of the jazz steps. phone. >> Yes. >> It's very unsafe going in front of cars. We can't always monitor >> the predictability of that back. >> Yes. >> Um so we've agreed on the location of the sugar shack. Now we're just waiting for the build the builders,

142right? We're working with the Menanite group. So um that's still kind of Yeah. There's a picture though. This is >> Oh, it didn't show up on >> Oh, >> yeah. So, I don't know why you're in sh like a visual. >> It's so strange. >> Sorry. >> Great. >> Yeah. So, that's that's what they're looking at building. Maybe a few little bit differences in the dimensions and whatnot, but >> is also building a sugar sack for next year, and it's almost identical. >> Yeah. So again, a space more meant for the production of it, not for students to be. >> You can show the camera. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Show the camera. >> Can you? >> Yes. >> So just kind of waiting on the builders. That's >> um so if you're over on the

143story book trail um heading up towards the TV, there's a section that's kind of flatted right there just at the right on the inside of the tree line from the back of the field. So uh not that far, a little bit closer closer to the field target. Um during our staff meeting that we had in April, we noticed a change that nobody caught on our school calendar um regarding our November conferences. So this is under general highlights. I need to request that our conferences move to November 10th and 12th instead of the week of harvest lunches. So yeah, we like a bunch of us looked at it and then one teacher's like, "That's harvest." I'm like, "Yes, it is." So I will add that to the calendar that I bring back um in May with

144the board dates on that as well. >> Correct. Just back it up one week ahead so that it's not falling during um conferences time. And then um we had an audit done through um choice central office of our calendar and there seems to be a discrepancy in our time um our minutes and our hours. So I'll make sure that's adjusted in May as well where um myself and Miss Maller may have overounted. So we may make an adjustment um like we're over an extra day >> in the calendar in a negative. Yes. Like we have 183 versus 182. So, I'm just trying to >> Yes. Just trying to iron that out and then that'll also be in the May um so that that can be presented to the board as well. So, there'll be a

145change in that those hours and minutes that we showed. >> All right. Thank you. >> You're welcome. Any questions on anything? Oh, wait. Sorry. I have two more. Forgot about these ones. Um the middle school leadership elective class um is wanting to propose to do a little free pantry on campus. Um they're going to do the research in class about the the supplies and the funding as part of a project that they're working on. So I'm going to bring that to the board's um attention. Do we need to vote on that one? No. Okay. And then um one that I do need a vote on which I did not have available for you. Yeah. I'll do archery, too. Um the Cougar Council leaders, the teachers would like to take that group to Cedar Point in

146May. They don't have a firm date, but either the 11th, the 15th, or the 18th. And being out of state, I would like the board to discuss in board on that one if that's allowed. >> Very. >> And what we would do then in May would bring you the completed details and then you would confirm those things. But unless they already go before we because our board meeting is after those dates, >> right? Well, that's what I mean. If the board gives that approval, then we can make sure that we've got all of it documented in our that you did approve for the final dates, but um >> this would have been brought earlier. >> They should have been broader. I thought >> they're not. No. >> Nope. Those are clear days. Yeah. It just

147depends on sure. >> Yeah. >> Watch that. Who would be driving? Who would be driving them? >> We would have to use the bus. We figure early morning. >> So that means the other people who use the bus are driving themselves at. >> No, we we might have to do a tour bus as well. I mean, we're not going to have a lot of parent chaprons. We're talking 12, 18 kids that would go. So maybe we would do Yeah, it's just a day trip. Yeah. Go down early in the morning to be there when it opens, stay as late as I can, and then come back sort of thing. >> Oh, I don't miss. >> Yeah, >> like Boston. >> Yeah. >> I want to go to Cedar Point. >> So, I would entertain the

148farm's motion to approve the Cougar Council going to Cedar Point for a day trip. this year's cougar council and and when like the people who are currently >> serving on it. Yes. >> When do they next? >> Um why won't we come back to school in September? >> Yeah. They wait. >> All right. Is there a second? I have supports >> questions. >> Yeah. Like funding is it going to be raised by students? >> Um I think the part of the funds would come from like bagel money and stuff too. >> Okay. So um with respect to this trip it would be you know consistent obviously with all of the rules that came has set out all of the hand policy policies >> ensuring that we um you know compliant with all of those >>

149items. Um all those in favor of approving this trip please say I. >> I. >> Any opposition please say nay. hearing no opposition that Cedar Point shape has been approved. >> Thank you. >> Um yes and then I just with respect to this obviously the Cleveland council they are involved in >> you know more um a voluntary role so to speak because there's not a class for access. >> Yeah. This is during their lunch and recess that they volunteer their time to okay >> do things for their peers. >> Um all right very good. The other piece I have was archery and chess. Um those are dates that Mr. Morelin would like to do for um May archery and then he also would like to try to bring chess back. >> Mr. Morelin is >>

150chess. >> Yes. >> That was great. >> Yep. He's looking. He has one parent volunteer in mind. Um just waiting on that final confirmation. So there's always a spot available for other parent volunteers if you're interested in chess. >> Yes. Is there a age for the Kingsbury Chess Club? >> Is it a certain grade and up? >> He had mentioned that he would take pretty much anybody who can play >> because I knew it started out with >> I think it was third and then it dropped back and then there were some kindergarters that were playing. >> Yeah. as long as they can understand the beginnings of chess to be able to play. Just it's the maximum of the participants, they can handle 20 at a time. >> Um, okay. So, let's do these one

151at a time. All those in or Okay. I would entertain a motion to approve the Kingsbury Archery Club for the May 8th, 15, 20 second. >> So, moved. >> Adam moves. Is there a second? >> There be a second. It has been moved and seconded to the Kingsbury Archery Club. For those based all those in favor, please say I. >> I. Any opposition, please say no. Hearing no opposition, those are our tribes have been. I'm sorry. Who? I was writing >> Adam. Okay. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Supported position toward the very chess club with Second. Is there any further conversation? All those in favor say I. Any opposition please? Hearing no opposition. The Hbury Chess Club is going to hopefully be coming back. Very cool. >> Can I bring you one more? >> Sure.

152buried in the email. >> Flag football for um the middle school kids right now. Um May 7,4 21 and 28 run by um Mr. Ginger again at um right after school 3:30 to 4:30 and then um the street participation fee which he did not give me that fee for it but that there would be a t-shirt included at no cost >> and that would be sixth, seventh and eighth grade. He might go down to fifth, but yes, definitely the older of the kids that can kind of be a little bit more self-sufficient when they're >> okay. >> Playing flag football. So, just four dates in May. >> All right. Although we got Don't try to jump to the edge with I would entertain a motion to approve the flag football dates understanding that there is

153a participation fee that would be noticed on any um >> Yeah, I'll get that out as soon as possible. >> Advertising. >> Sandy moves. Is there a second? >> Adam second. It has been moved and seconded. Any further discussion about the flag football? Hearing no discussion, I'll take a vote. All those in favor, please say I. >> I. >> Any opposition, please say nay. Hearing no opposition for the call. Shout. >> Thank you. Now I'm done. >> Are you sure? >> No problem. >> Okay. Um, I will try to get through this for you. As a reminder, the operational reports are really reflections of the direct work that our departments are doing to support James Berry. Um, so just a reminder um there's board presidents will be notified via epicenter. So did you get a

154login for epicenter Jod? >> Might be on spam because some things are going but okay. So I may make a note that you may not need that. So um but you'll get opportunities to go in through there um for board packet completion. Um you're invited to create an account through there. Um so this will be a way to back and forth. Right now we send emails and we're back and forth. This would be an opportunity for information to be put in there and get directly to Shita and she can update it. You can see um the back and forth updates to the to the agenda. Very nice. >> Is that everybody or just me? >> Um, right now they're starting with board presidents. Um, >> I see you looking. Um, that's something that we've been

155integrating with our school leaders too and it just reduces the a lot of back and forth with emails that that go on. Um, and so, um, I'll just make a note, Jody, to >> and I just quickly looked here. I don't see it. >> Okay. Thank you. Um just okay. >> It might be handy for board presidents to have a backup in case of >> vacation. >> Yeah, I I think this is new like so baby stepping is just like I I think the vision at some point may be to do all board members have that but I will make note and ask if we can get a second login as well um because I think that's a valid point. Um, so I will communicate that information. Um, and far as far as legislative updates,

156again, that comes out of um, K's department, the uh, marketing communication. So, you've got the House um, education committee continuing to advance several educational related bills. Um, they've got the House Bill 59 uh, no 5697 was adopted through substitute bill that extends implementation timeline um, to five years. uh for example, teachers through interim certificates allow some flexibility through good cause exemptions and permits. Um so watching all of those because there we've been in and out of teacher shortages. Um it's also a companion bill um there which shifts uh to a criteria based approach for those good cause exemptions. Um the academic excellence team is working closely with the school leader, director of school finance to ensure all K5 instructional TA um staff are well trained in the science of reading in compliance with that timeline

157in the pending legislation. We're also tracking that for anybody who's coming in. That's now going to be a part of, you know, the interview um screening and the school level so that we can not make somebody redo it if they've already had it. Um because the training doesn't have to happen at the school if they've already had it. Um, House Bill 4477 is water safety instruction. So, um, with the amount of, uh, situations that have happened around the state, they're now asking potentially legislation is asking schools to treat water safety to teach water safety. Um, and so >> this isn't drinking water. >> No, this is how to be around Yeah. water safety. >> Kids wear a life jacket. >> Yes. Wear a life jacket. Walk. And I don't have all the obviously those aren't

158laid out, but um I that's another thing. I can guarantee you it won't be funded and so finding where that falls into somebody else's plate. I would guess that this falls into gym teachers agendas. >> Yeah. >> No, no, no, no. You were not teaching swimming. Water safety is very different than train. Yes. Um yes, we're all getting pools. Um but just the recognition of those those types of things that unfortunately um especially for those that aren't around water a lot and then get around it um they don't aren't don't don't seem to be equipped with the skills that I think a lot of parents uh try to instill. Um and then there's some additional house bills passed um which would limit um the millage election. So we keep talking about that. Um, we've got

159the the recent House passage um or approval really of 5364 which requires the state board of ed to approve any changes. In my mind, if this is going to be a change, then does that fall into the state health standards? I don't know. Um, but uh continuing to monitor those. Again, join us on April 22nd. I will be there. Um, Nikki will be there. You'll have representatives from your school. It's really a great positive environment um to showcase the benefits of charters. Um I just put in here just for your reference in case you wanted to know um how you can improve. Sagenov Valley has some really great um training that you can sometimes attend virtually um in it's synchronous but they often put the the recordings there and so you can go and check

160those out if they don't work for your schedule. So just a reminder I put the link there. Um, for grants, um, we're supporting school leaders in organizing, um, all the oversight documentation, making sure it's there for long term, so that should you get your, um, name called to have an on-site review, um, or through financial audits that they have questions that we that's not something we're digging around for, that we're prepared and ready. Um, and then our teachers are our leaders are are regularly trained and updated on that process. So, um they're kind of creating a calendar of like you should check in on this, you should check in on this so that we're not lumping it all together when we get our stick pulled by the state. So, um just streamlining that. Um HR,

161they've done a comprehensive salary analysis as Sandy and Kyle, we've all been connecting to talk through what that looks like for Kingsbury. So, that information will be discussed at our upcoming finance committee meeting um to work on on our next budget. Um, additionally, um, we have an open, but it's filled on your sheet. Um, we have a member of staff in this room who has a somebody in her family who has applied and has been a great um, addition. So, we're kind of working on onboarding and getting all that paperwork documentation done >> for the games teacher and our um, uh, the parapro the onetoone aid support. So, um, super excited about that. Um and we have um kind of looking at those early hire teachers and associating if anybody if we know of people

162leaving. We're constantly looking at getting early hires in for that. So um our model leaders met um but not on the Kingsbury campus because when I read when I wrote this we were planning to be here. Um really happy Nikki that you're back. Um, so it was due last week. Um, and Nikki has been out um, taking care of herself with some health issues and so we chose not to come. Um, which really bummed my leaders out. They were they can't wait to get onto this campus. So we will make this happen at some point. Um, May is a virtual meeting. So um, I'm not getting any leader out of a building uh, in May. That's too busy. But um, I it just kind of shows that that they're seeing the value and things like

163you said. Are others learning from us, too? The answer is yes. and they can't wait to be out here. So, we will make that happen. Um, but really focused on we did some master schedule um audits and comparing times allotted and required by the state and so um we'll be working through those. We shared out all of ours as leaders and so we'll be connecting with Nikki so that she doesn't miss out on that as well. Uh literacy >> real quick what it stand for >> positive behavior interventions. Um, so that's that's really just making sure that when you walk in a hallway that we all have the same expectations and that somebody can stop a student whether they're theirs or not and know what the expectations hold them to it. Same with classrooms, right?

164We all have different cultures within our room, but we want students to know when I go to the next class that the minimum expectations are going to be this and it it's non-negotiable. And so we kind of feel like we have those, but it's really defining and just making sure that we're all using the same language and and holding our kids accountable because some people can, you know, like a little bit more flexibility, but there's got to be that common expectation. And so we're working on building that and um have launched it this year and are running through trials and errors and um that will be really pushed in the coming year um by the team. So some adjustments there. Um, we've got that bill coming up for the certified K5 educators involving literacy. And

165so that's kind of what we talked about before, looking at that high fidelity training and letters. Um, technology. Paul has been working with Nikki and charter to review all of our technology needs. That hasn't been done in a long time. And so you've got some things that are coming up that need replacement. We have staff computers that haven't been touched in a really long time. Um, and so monitoring like this is what you have to do. and then saying, "Okay, well, maybe we could do more within reason because we don't want to replace all of them at once, right? You want those going out in phases." So, working on creating that um that every year the cyclical um replacements so that you're not trying to do different numbers every year. It's the same. So, um

166so he's been helping out a lot with that. And then curriculum, um we're continuing to meet with Nikki. Again, we had a push off on a meeting, but to to talk through with um school leadership and teachers who have been piloting SAVAS. So, um we do have a requirement um by the state to have either curriculum aligned to their list and SAVS has been added to that list. Um Mandy mentioned a list earlier um for for interventions and things. Well, there's now an English curriculum list and so they're slowly adding to that. The curriculum that we're piloting is on that list. Um we will be required by next year to post that we have either adopted a curriculum that's science of based um science of reading based or say how our current curriculum is science

167of reading based. So we will be coming to you with um adoption information um that's mandated by the state. So look for that to come. So um and then >> and I don't mean the valley but so last year when um >> it was what fifth, sixth, seventh and eighth came it was the teachers that had come to present is it going to be a similar thing this time? >> Yep. Um so Kristen has been working with we've had Savas come out and do some additional training and support um and trying to identify those. It's it's a learning it's a learning in progress while we're doing it. Um because it's very different than what Kingsbury is accustomed to. So it will take some time to to implement and adjust >> and I think we teachers

168are yes that while we are being compliant with >> state requirements we're also giving the teachers the curriculum that they're comfortable in teaching. So that's why I just want I think it's valuable to hear from >> Yeah. and they they you know cut out several options at the beginning because they thought that it would matters but yes that just as we have in others um and then we've got the end of student centered coaching coming up in April um due to weather that was rescheduled um so um continuing to attend that you're going to start to see um hopefully some more elements of coaching emerge in the coming months so >> we have any questions for users. >> I am not aware of any proposals session. We will have um open up for extended public

169comment. Please remember um identify yourself. You do have a three minute time limit um and please be responsible, respectful, and safe in any comments that you do provide. Uh the Kingsbury 5 calendar you're making all your calendar adjustments are >> the printed one. Yes. >> Yeah. >> About 25 years there. Um >> what is the date? >> The last Friday of September. It's the same week as the September 25th. Okay. >> Okay. >> Is that going to be the butter, too? >> Yes. >> So, maybe you can scramble over the sugar. >> I don't think Mr. Fleming will want that >> skirt around. like I designed to make a story trail out there for five pays. My plan is to have like a pink trail out there. So like set up stations. So I actually

170>> um >> and say that the seventh and eighth graders had a great time in Boston. Their chaperones escorted them safely and they had a wonderful time. Came back with no voice. I think all of Boston um the Red Sox are well aware that Kingsbury was there. Sheriff Tigers I think is well aware according to my daughter. So they had a great time a tour company that doesn't know how to get from point A to point B gracefully and um did a wonderful job. >> Yeah. Nobody noticed at all. The kids didn't care. They never complain. resilience. >> Yeah. >> All right. Thank you, Kevin. There anybody else who has public comment at this time? Okay. Um I was on that trip. They all had a great Oh, I'm Kim. Oh gosh. Know me by

171now. teacher >> my ideas were opening day breakfast used to be a time when we talked about PR that was a time where we used to talk about this previously um but that's where even just board members the trust board people used to come and talk about who we were what we represented and why we had a difference between B and the charter and those were the times you know who talked about the times we moved things up it used to be um not in the jazz and we used to actually go to Boulder Point for a more formal breakfast but I still think that is a time where people can speak. I don't go to that obviously now here. Um but that was a time where those points were made and even KPA spoke

172um and said why we do the fundraisers the fundraisers and the fundraisers and it's a very important time. It's not just it is a time where you have a captive audience to tell them why you use and all of those important things and then being time other things. um subs and um are we tapping into like Oakland University or some of the nearby things for their job fairs and um to get subs because there are students that are graduating and >> yes or is it just >> site so that's my question um >> because yeah where are we at if we go into any of these job fairs um to fill our positions and Um then I have uh when we used to do fair when it was much more paper and a lot less

173technology we did post when the billboard was just the billboard we actually had to ship. We did pay money as KTA to post at the fair over the weekend it was and we also were um picked up a little thing in the Oxford later um but we did advertise about the fair. So, I don't know if you want to do that regarding Gainsbury because I'm sure there's somebody out there that still reads those things. Um, the other thing is I know >> Yeah, we they stopped being that they said it was a distraction to read that thing and we we put it hopefully. Um, it's for community. Um, also maybe you hear a commercial that runs like um during the uh previews at the Oxford 7. I've been to Birmingham to watch their movies and

174all the private schools. I don't know how much it costs, but I've seen Hony and Brother Ice Marion and they promote their things. Again, I don't know how much it costs. Sure. Cost a lot in Birmingham. I don't know how much they charge you if you ask for seven, but do we have a promo to say even just a quick thing? That's one of my too. >> And then a link to the brochure. a link to a brochure that you know tool consistent you talked about brochure out but if we had a sweater for parents that they could print it as opposed to trying to get it to be full that was a year out and then the last thing I have is the lower school and both buildings that used to be here had

175a schedule both seasonal and daily that they did every day um and it covered even just thing like the boot brushes for their feet. Um, but it was a daily schedule so things everything got done and seasonal and part of it was making sure every morning that all the rooms the heat was on. Um, and everyone was running and no one was here very early stay very late and so I think part of that is so that's the last thing. I think that's all. >> I thank you for um that I held in. >> But thank you for confirming the billboard thing. I swear I used to see the country the Kingsbury country. >> Yeah. Okay. Any other count that we can also start? >> Have at it. Hi, I'm Sandy. I'm a parent. I

176just wanted to recognize Casey Miller um for shephering three different groups to the Oxford Battle of the Books. Um yeah, so and it's like hurting cats. Um they had three three different teams that Kingsbury had there. It was held in a performing arts center at the Oxford High School. Um they represented the school great. Um they were so well-mannered. Um and while they didn't they they didn't win the battle of the books, they weren't on the bottom of the pile of teams either. there. And um one of our Kingsbury teams won for best costume. They hand painted their own costume and stuff, but she's the one who who led all of that. And >> really thank for the fourth grade. So thank you. >> I guess while I'm here I will bring up one thing

177to us parent choice all that. Um the one thing I would like to have thought about a little bit I was really sad that the Men Island trip was cancelled this year for the sixth graders. Um one thing I did realize is how expensive the trip is now. I mean, I don't remember exactly, but it was like $800 and some dollars for >> a couple days at Meno. And um you know, my older son going, it was a great experience for him. Um, and so I'm just curious like if we could look into why the students and the parents like why it was decided that the trip didn't didn't happen and if it is something financial, especially because >> Kingsbury is never going to be in a in a situation where they're a schoolwide um

178title one school where we can just pay for all those kinds of trips that we can in some schools. So trying to figure out a different way so that the trips can be equitable because they are such an important part of the academic program and you know there's a lot of different ways that that stuff could be funded but maybe it needs to be a little bit more of a community effort to you know just bagels is hard. I mean like I'm a parent who could never come and help volunteer for bagels. We use the bus because I can't you know can't get my kid here. Um and so he's not able to access that kind of fundraising. So having other opportunities so that kids do have um the ability to go to camp to

179go to uh Meno and then to go to a Boston or BC trip I think it's just really important especially in the grades that we're trying to keep kids >> to piggyback on that I thought of this earlier where they couldn't go maybe we should explore having it be up at sixth grade combo trick and seventh eighth grade just make sure that they don't go in sixth seven you know make sure But they can do camping in fifth and sixth graders can go camping together and the fifth and sixth can do Magna Island and then seventh and eighth can do Boston and whatever they camping out school grounds and that way we would have a higher student count therefore allowing us to have lower cost lower the cost and make it more feasible. And we

180do have a lot of school in order the KPA also has has said that you know they're having to support people being I think it would you know into other things. So to get them I mean I don't think that cohort of kids um kids who are looking forward to it are pretty disappointed that it's not something it's going to be done looking at. Yeah. It's it's it's one of those things that you know the leadership is looking at different questions for future years. So, but thank you for bringing it's a very long >> part of these things too is you've historically used travel companies to do that because they handle logistics of it and those prices continue to increase. Um, but the logistics and planning a trip like that, you cannot be prepared for

181how much goes into that. Um, and so there are some ways could we look into planning some of those shorter trips on our own and getting those logistics and then hammering those down and figuring it out so that we can replicate those year after year. But in increases with Gerber have have gone just like the rest of everything, right? gone up um quite high different some other companies >> I know of southeastern Michigan does >> trip so lot less expensive than that um and so I don't know if it's it's you know if we did it on >> if we might be able to work with some other resources like that find out >> you know and explain to them who we are and >> I bet we could reach out to Meno Island, their

182their commerce, right, their or chamber, um, and ask what other >> opportunities kids are getting to get to the island. And I bet you they'd have, >> you know, they they'd have additional resources for other companies or supports that get kids there. So, that's a that's a good suggestion. I think too aligning these experiences, these these large experiences that kid ha kids have and creating kind of that road map of what you can expect at Kingsbury so that parents may plan ahead and know that because we do have multiple kids in multiple grades that are experiencing these very large trips. But if there was a way that we could put that in front of them early on so that they could even work with their kid on, you know, doing some things in the household

183to, you know, set aside money or if they're doing jobs around the neighborhood, mowing lawn or shoveling and they know that this was coming and and we know that prices will change over time, but we could probably give some ballparks and adjust those, you know, year after year. But letting people know in advance, these are some of the big experiences that you can expect at Kingsbury. These are approximate prices. We do fundraising, but here's some real advanced knowledge in kindergarten that >> But I just mean like a master for all, right? >> Yep. fifth grade camp that's their first time where it's away but it's very close to home >> right and it's just the teachers then they go to magnate that they are on an island you know they can't get off >> yeah

184they're on the island we've never gonna say that there is that but then you take them to a city whether it be DC or Boston was last time and um most of them have done all of those things and so it is definitely to get to that >> and also like they're in a hotel room you are at camp you're all in a hallway and you know you're together but in a hotel room in Meno is very different than you know so you're going in these stages and so as a parent I know when I was the parent you're going in that order >> so you still have the service trips too >> yes yeah we always had community service trips it used to be fifth and sixth did one and then the following year

185they did something different than seventh and eth like my daughter works DC and she was seventh grader so eighth grade her year was service trip um and she went to Grand Rapids when it was the opposite year the other kids that were eighth graders when she was the seventh graders when it was their community service trip David and Gaylord so it was always something different um but uh that community service part was a big kindergarten through service hours. >> Yes, we were required to have 40 community service hours. So that was the deal and that was left over from when it was private and just kept going before there was two council was called red key and Um >> and I and I do know that um also of importance is these these students being

186very students historically and my understanding is they continue with that uh they are very well behaved and received in every community that they go to and it's one of the reasons that I think it's so important to continue at a personal level to expans and um to the outside community and not just the human inside the wall school and that's one thing that Kingsbury I think does very well because you see it on ski hill um and and when it just continues to escalate like family bang where we start with these you know parents involved and now we get that momentum and I think that that's one of the things I think that was the hardest for some several sixth graders because they knew it was coming they were excited for it many of them

187were able to do the bag sale and many of them were doing some type of fundraising so that they themselves and so it is um a terribly unfortunate thing that it wasn't able to manifest this year and it couldn't go but I think with Nikki is already aware and working on making sure that it doesn't happen in the future um level whether we combine whether or however we do it. Um because they are huge in the education of the great kids and there are things that other schools don't do that other schools don't give you know the opportunities for. So is there a way to obviously that the opportunity is gone for this this school year but could these same kids go in September or October? >> Something we're talking about Yeah. Trying to figure

188out how we can make that work. >> But it is so amazing. >> Bearded. >> They're professional. You're gonna see them. >> Okay. here. So is back to the meeting. Um no more comments. >> Okay. Our next regular board meeting is 6 p.m. May 18th. Um we will be here. So at this time I would enter state a motion to adjurnn quickly. Adam moves. Is that there? >> No further discussion. All those in favor, please say. >> Any opposition? >> No. >> Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.