001Can you imagine how much I love you? The mics are on. >> Good evening everyone. I'd like to welcome you to the October 14th Board of Education meeting. Uh, and standing as you are able, we'll begin with the pledge of allegiance led by none other than Miss Selene Madeline, whose name I last name I forgot. >> Marshall. Thank you, Meline. You did a great job. Of course. Uh we're dealing with some slight technical issues, but we've got it. Um this even interesting. Uh I'd like to uh open the floor to public comment. A member of the public note, we have no public comment at this point, so we'll just skip over that. I have no response to previous public comment. So, we'll get right on to the revision approval of the agenda. Uh items can
002be added or removed or the order changed at any time at the request of an individual board member or the superintendent. The agendas must be approved before proceeding further. I'd like to entertain a motion to approve the agenda as printed. >> Thanks, Michael. I'd like to move to approve the agenda as revised. Moving number seven, administration and board committee updates underneath discussion items. Just to um >> What number is that? Sorry. Um >> moving number seven underneath number nine. It would become number nine. um to be cognizant of our guests speaking before us. >> Why not put our guests just before the administration board updates >> um flip-flopping eight >> seven and eight that >> um that's fine too. Yep. As long as they get to speak first. >> They all get to speak first.
003All right. Um any other changes from any other member of the board? All right. With that in mind, all in favor, please say I. >> I. >> For the revised uh motion >> and a second. >> Oh, do we have a second? Here we go. JS Tim Austin seconds it. Do we have all in favor? Please say I. >> I. >> Poss. Great. We will move uh eight in front of seven to swap out seven and eight. But that does not change our student showcase. And I will pass the microphone over to uh Jillian Hayes, our student representative. >> Hello. Um today we have Miss Selene which is Maline Marshall who is our Miss Selene Sophie Zinskus which is our first runner up and myself as second runner up with Kim Bryant. Is the microphone
004on now? Okay, perfect. set. Okay, perfect. So, hi, I'm Maline Marshall. I'm so incredibly honored to be the 77th Miss Selene. I'm here with Jillian Hayes, Miss Selen second runner up and Sophie Zazinskis, Miss Selene, first runner up, has dance team practice tonight, so unfortunately she's not able to attend. Um, but go Hornets. And then we are here with our co-director Kim Bryant um who does so much for our community. Um and truly without her mine would not be possible and definitely would not run us smoothly. So thank you so much Mrs. Brian. Next slide. Okay perfect. So, Miss Selene is a beautiful tra tradition dating back to 1948 where esteemed young women compete for a scholarship. Miss Selene serves her community for one year. Each Missel's journey is different and unique to the women
005holding the title, but all remains this focused on community pride and service throughout our local events. This year, we had 12 incredible contestants go out for Miss Selene. Thank you. So the misleading process unfortunately there is a stereotype um behind pageantss that it is a beauty contest and that simply is not true with miscellane scholarship and pageant. So for our applicants you have to fill out this intense or rigorous application that opens in March and closes June 1st. And so this includes you have to submit your transcripts as well as two letters of recommendation while responding to several essay questions. Um in June we have head shot with our official Misseline photographer and you also develop a bio that will be read on stage and then my favorite um is week. So miseline week is
006the first week of August. And so Miss Lean Week kicks off the first Sunday of August with a 30inut interview with our judges at city hall and you're going to have an interview someday. So why not prepare for it now? It's an incredible opportunity that um I 100% recommend to all women um in high school to do. And so then at least th it's been Thursday the last two years we have our opening number. And so this is the first time that we're all the contestants are all together. And so this is a great time to build connections and network with each other. And then Friday we have the opportunity to participate in our community service project and that is the top left photo. I think it's cut off a little bit but that's okay.
007Um and that is stuff the bus. Stuff the bus is something that we hold here actually at Liberty. And so all the well if you're here the contestants get on the bus and we get to go and collect school supplies and then we come back and sort it. It's truly incredible how generous our community is in supporting those families that are less fortunate. And then of course, pageant day, which is so much fun. So on pageant day, we are asked several questions. One of the questions we are asked is called the judges question. And so the judge will ask you something from your application, your interview, or something that they would simply like to know about you. And then another question that like later on that they will ask is called like the community question.
008And the community question is revolved around our community. So this year my question was what's your favorite local business? And please give us a 30 secondond elevator pitch. Next slide please. And then what Miss Lean means to me. I get to share my love for our community in so many ways. I love that I get to work handinhand with our incredible local businesses um as I get to come in and help them with their special events. They give so much to our community and so being able to be there and support them on their special events means so much to us. I love that I get to make to make connections with our youngest and oldest citizens. I've gotten to go into our senior center several times and just had some great conversations with some
009of our oldest citizens, but also get to play game nights with them, which is so much fun. Um, and then also being with some of our youngest students. So, Miss Selene was at um the elementary open houses, so we got to see lots of children's faces. Um, we also participate in so many events throughout the year from the rec center as well as all the events that the schools put on, we get invited to. Um, so it's truly incredible that we get to see some of our younger students and citizens. I love that I get to attend and support our beloved SLE traditions such as the fair. We were there on Thursday night presenting the people's choice award, some of our festivals like October Fest that we just had which is so fun to be
010there. And then our parades like the homecoming parade and our holiday parade which we have a big one coming up this year, the 50th annual. And also one that's not on here that we're in right now. um specifically is our annual scarecrow competition. Um and then I also love that I get to be a role model for community pride and an activist to support growth and change while being like while honoring our roots. So this year as Miss Selene, my platform was to make sure I'm the bridge from the past to the future. Specifically for Miss Selene, um we are being the bridge from the past. So there are 77 miscellines and that's actually a small number of women. And so I think it's truly we have to honor the women that came before us
011because without them we wouldn't like not be here right now. And truly they are the ones that built Miss Selene. So I want to honor them. And then right now I'm making sure that we're staying focused on our community um with anything and everything that our community needs. Making sure that women's voices are heard. I know I'm jumping a little bit to my next point um but just making sure people are feeling empowered and being heard. And then of course in the future we want to inspire our next generation of kids, the women that are going to run next year that for Miss Lane, but also for generations to come. I think it's so important and I love Miss Lean and I want to see this tradition live on for so many years. And then
012I love being Miss Lane because I get to empower fellow young women and provide them a safe space for them to speak and use their voices and know that they are heard. We just have a slight technical issue as Ben logs back in again. Was this repausing? Uh, do you all have power on your Oh, no. Neither do I. Okay, we'll see if we can pull a power cable over at some point. I would say yes. Well, thank you all for being here tonight and supporting Seline Education. We appreciate you guys so much and thank you for everything. >> There may be a question or two from the board if you are ready to answer. >> Yes, absolutely. >> Go ahead, Nate. >> Could you tell us your favorite business? >> Well, okay. I am
013a total sling girl. I absolutely love all of our businesses. Um, for the question that I had on stage, I could have done so many 30 secondond elevator pitches. Um, I know mine specifically on stage was towards manos. Um, but mine was specifically Do you want me to tell you what it was actually? >> Yes, please. >> Okay. Um, and so truly you can pick any different kind of business in Sling because they're all incredible. Um, but for me it was Manos that came up on stage. Um, so my response was, "Manscinos is incredible. From their pizzas to the grinders to ice cream, they have delicious food." Um, but when you go to Manos, you get to see Kevin Lawson, and he's incredible. Um, but when you're at Mancinas, you're not eating delicious food, but
014you're also supporting our Seline community because Kevin Lawson gives so much to Selene High School and our clubs. Um, and truly is so involved with our Seline community. Um, so like I mentioned before, you're not only eating delicious food, you're also supporting our Seline community. >> Perfect. >> Okay, it might be answered later on. Okay, so going on to our 2025 scholarship recipients. Um, so our first award that was given out was the academic award and this went to Addison Langga. I'm incredibly fortunate to have won the community service award. Miss Selene or spirit of Miss Selene and Miss Congeniality. Miss Congeniality is voted on with the peers. So our contestants and then our white family scholarship was which was new this year went to Jillian Hayes. And then um going forward our Misselene second
015runner up is Jillian Hayes. Um Miss Selene first runner up Sophie Zazinskis. And then I'm so incredibly honored to be Miss Lane to 2025. Next slide please. Perfect. Okay. So, our community sponsors. Some of our notable sponsors are Katherryn Kelly Orthodontics, Renew Spa Salon, Heidi Mlullen Photography, Stillwaters Counseling, DTE, the Koi family, Rude Awakenings, and Kim Bryan. But I would also like to mention the generosity of our community from our local businesses inviting us in for their special events to come and support them, but also our community. Um, our community through all of our fundraisers like stuff the bus. Um, but also when I put on my crown and sash, I have lots of people come up to me. Um, and I actually get to hear how Miss Lane has had an impact on them.
016And I love getting to hear how previous Miss Lane's um have inspired them or had just like a heartfelt moment with them that resonates. Um so it's truly incredible that I get to hear about previous Miss Lane's um stories but also their history. And then our four judges this year were Mayor Marl, Jeffrey McGlaughlin, Julie Pnell, and Shannon Kalisio. Next slide please. Thank you. Okay. What we have done so far. So starting off strong in August we had the Selen elementary open houses. So we went to all four buildings. Um so each of us were at one of the elementary schools from K to three. Um and then we all met up at Heritage for the last 45 minutes. And then we had the Selen Social Service Meyer campaign um to help Seline Social Service.
017And to end the month we had the people's choice award at the Selen Fair. Starting off in September, we had a ribbon cutting and the homecoming parade. We've made our Seline Scarecrow competition, which voting starts tomorrow. And then we had the Chad Tough Run. And then this month so far, um, to go along with the scarecrow theme, When I Grow Up, we have been outside of Benny's Bakery these past two Saturdays, and we will be out this Saturday, too, um, doing youth interviews, asking children what they want to be when they grow up someday. Perfect. So, if you haven't already, I highly recommend going out around town and looking at the incredible scarecrows um by built by businesses, families, schools, and so much more. I mean, like, I'm personally biased because my favorite's the miscellane
018scarecrow. Um but truly, they're all incredible. And even if you don't have time to walk around town, um you can see them as you're driving by. Also on the screen you can see what Missine has become. And so this year we put together um what previous Miss Lanes ha have and are doing right now. And so it's truly like Barbie. You can be anything you want to be. And so all we have misses all across all different fields and they're all flourishing in what they do. So it's truly incredible to see how our former miscellines and what they are doing. Okay, what is planned? So, we have the sweethearts dance actually in two days held here at Liberty and then we have trunk or treat next week which is our annual trunk or treat. We
019have toys for tots starting in November through December. And so, we will be promoting Toys for Tots. Please bring your unopened um unwrapped toys and drop them off at our boxes and we will post more on where our boxes are with the locations on our Miss Seline socials. Um so we're super excited for that. Also on December 6th we have our tree Seline tree lighting and our 50th annual parade which is incredible. We are so excited. Um we are also Santa's assistants throughout the month of December. Um, so also I would look at our social like socials and you'll get to see um where we might be. And then I'm so excited about this next one. So Little Miss Charm School. Little Miss Charm School was one of my many inspirations to become Miss Selene
020someday. And so Little Miss Charm School is for girls coming of age to empower and support other women and to practice their public speaking, which is incredible that they can do it at such young age. And so I'm so excited to bring this back. Um and so I'm so excited. And then we have March's reading month. And so we often get invited into the schools to read to um children. So we're so super excited about that. We also have the elementary pancake supper next week um specifically at Woodland. Um I will be reading a book there and I know Jillian will be signing which is so exciting. And then we have the Valentine's Day ball in February and that will most likely be our debut for our Little Miss Charm School graduates. And then of
021course the Polar Plunge. We often get asked, "How can we support the Miss Lane family?" And truly our response is just invite us. We love to be in our community and support our local businesses and our community members. We want to be invited and we will do our best to absolutely be there because we are here to support you and we love everyone in our community. Thank you so much. >> Thank you very much. Did you want to ask or say? >> Thank you. Um my question is both of you are so very involved in in this community and in our school district and so you have lots of other students behind you. I was wondering if you could give some tips for other students that might be coming up and interested in Miss Selene
022or just interested in clubs and athletics or or um activities overall. How do you balance your academics with these extracurriculars? What are what are some tips you can give? >> Absolutely. I wish I could be looking at you guys, but I'm pretty sure Can you hear me if I speak this way? Well, I might talk this way, but no, I'd rather be looking at you, too. Um, okay. So, for Miss Lane, for all girls in the audience, I would 100% recommend um going out for Miss. It's truly an incredible experience. Like I said, you're going to have an interview someday. You will have to network and be with around people. Um and you will also be a part of community service at some point. So, truly, this is an incredible experience that we have in
023our community that you can start young and practice it. Um and then also to go along with academics and clubs, just make sure school always comes first. You can be a student athlete, um but student comes before the athlete. So you need to make sure that you are doing well in all of your courses and classes and then you can do everything else. And so truly you have to find your perfect balance. And to find this balance, you need to make sure again that you're doing your schoolwork and then do something else that you love. So for me, I absolutely love to volunteer. So I knew this was the perfect opportunity for me. Um, and so as Miss Meline, I have so many opportunities to volunteer and it's truly incredible. So it's something that I
024love to do and I love to spend my time doing. Um, so I might as well spend it doing something that I love. >> Oh yeah. >> For those who are >> Go ahead, Jelly. For those who want to do miss, it is open to upcoming juniors and seniors. Um, just as a heads up. Sorry, sophomores and freshman might want might want to wait a little bit. Um, as I am in so much, I do understand the pressures of uh oh, I don't have enough time on my hands. Just communicate with people. Communicate with your teachers, communicate with your coaches, communicate with whoever you're around. Like, I've had to cancel on my poor coach so many times because I need to go home and do my homework. He's like, "Oh, but you have weight training.
025I'm a student athlete, so you have to put the student in front of the weight training weight training at home. It's okay. But ask for help, ask for assistance, and in the end, just do as best as you can. >> Also, with Miss Selene, if we have a big test coming up, um we know that there are three people on the court, which is incredible. So, if one of us have a test and we cannot miss and we need to study, the other two will show up and make sure that it's okay if you can't be there because you need to make sure that school's your priority. And that's something that Mrs. Bryant and Mrs. Koy make sure that we know too that school always comes first. >> Uh, Secretary Burwick had a question. >>
026Yes. >> Uh, not much a question. It's more of a I wanted to affirm the points that you made in your presentation. >> Um, the application process is um, and you put the effort in, right? It's not >> Absolutely. >> There is the application, the interview. Uh, grades are a part of it. Um, so I really appreciated that you pointed all of that out. Um, and also showcased how involved you guys are in the community and all the events that you do. Um, I I play a small part in the background and uh, even the contestants helped me there. Maline helped me with a web page update. So, they are very busy and very active and they do a lot of great work. So, thank you very much. >> Thank you. And thank you so
027much. Um actually Miss Darcy Berwick made our Miss Selene page where you can see where former Missines um what they are doing right now and so thank you so much. We appreciate your help with everything. >> Yes. >> Excellent. Well, if there nothing else from the board, I want to thank you very much. Yes, you are very busy and and thanks for maintaining and keeping keeping yourself centered while you're doing all this and we really appreciate you talking about the program as well. Thank you so much. >> Thank you. >> All the best this year. >> Thank you. We now have a scheduled report on the CTE millillage. And while you're getting set up, Caris Stemer, I'm going to look around for some electricity. >> Did you want to take a picture with >> Kim?
028You want a picture? >> Picture with M. Thank you budget. I love it. There's a wardrobe budget. Make sure nobody steps on. Oh, good. >> My machine is starting to say something. Well, this would have been a second time for me if I if it died like Yeah. >> already. Well, he's bringing he's going to connect up there. >> Ben is going to plug in up there, I think. And we're going to >> What about on the floor? We got Okay. >> Or I can just go without. >> I'm gonna go without. We'll start again. I'd like to introduce uh Cara Stemer, who's the director of the South and West Consortium, otherwise known as SWWC. >> Yes. Thank you. Thank you for having me. uh important time of the year as we are a few
029weeks away couple weeks away I should say from the November 4th uh vote for the CTE countywide millillage. So I know I come every April and kind of do an update on the SWWC and I have some we have a new face on the board and just in general I like to continue with our branding. So, I always start with what the SWWC is. And so, just as a reminder, we um we have 10th, well, I should say we have juniors and seniors that can apply for our CTE, our career and technical education classes. It's applicationbased. So, 10th graders, this starts our recruiting um phase. So Molly Visel, who is our special populations coordinator, and I will travel to all six districts, will speak to the to the 10th graders, and we will encourage them
030to sign up for um a CTE class for their junior andor senior year. So um we serve six districts, Dexter, Chelsea, Lincoln, Milin, Manchester, and Seline. Uh so that's kind of what the SWWC is. We can move on to the next slide. And I kept this slide on here. I looked for uh the most recent the 24 or 25 data but it's they don't the state does not have it yet. So I like to just point out two pieces of information on this particular slide. The question comes up a lot. Why the CTE the CTE millillage right now? Like why don't we wait? Why didn't we do it before? Um but I just want to say that 70 roughly 78% of our students that complete our follow-up survey after they leave. So this survey has
031to be within six months of them graduating. Uh we reach out to our students and we say are you using the skills you learned in your CTE class and it's a very I'm proud to say that 78% of the students in the state say they are. So when you look at data from around um you know the county and we have a lot of students sitting in the room and they say is engagement up or down in classrooms and we all know that we struggle with engagement sometimes in the classroom and I think that's where CTE really um is lifted. It's the hands-on learning the not sitting behind a desk following your passion. And so it's exciting to say that you know it's also employability skills. So it's not just the curriculum per se, but
032it's learning those employability skills. So 78% of our um students are saying they're using their skills. And then the other one I wanted to highlight on this slide is that um our classes don't compete with AP classes. We complement them. We have many students that take AP classes. We also have many students that um you know take the CTE route as well and they merge them. They they'll take one that complements the other. So, you know, I we have many students 60 I think it says 61 62% that are going on to post-secary and then we also have and that's just the four-year degree and then 29 30% that are going on to an associates. So, a lot of our students are going on to um to college and then others are going on to
033work in the workforce and so we are truly just preparing them for that skill set of collegebound or careerbound and we're preparing them that way. That's what that slide's for. And again, takes me to why we're here tonight. Um, November 4th. So, if anyone is 18 sitting in the audience, this is uh important. And I'm here just to provide some additional information kind of like the pulse of where we are at on behalf of Seline and just in general the ISD. Go back to the next slide. Thank you. I included this slide just because kind of referencing the engagement, the student engagement. We all know that um enrollment in our schools has gone down. But what this slide shows the turquoise blue shows that over the last three years or four years since COVID our
034in the interest in career and teched classes has increased. So we haven't quite doubled. Um but we have we've gone from you know roughly 1,800 to 3,100 students wanting to take care and teched. And obviously when we have that type of demand, we what we're running into is we can't always meet all the needs of our students. So when you're deciding on your schedule and you're like, I want to take an S SWWC class, CTE class, um you know, you may not get in just because we don't have we only have so many seats that we can offer. Thanks. So again, I'm trying to like just think of to help voters make an educated decision. And so when you think why now? Um, county is often known as being, you know, we have some great
035universities in our backyard. We tend to have a lot going on and we're proud. However, we are one of the last counties in the state to offer a vocational millillage and that's troublesome um only because we need a a sustainable funding model for our current programs. We need to continue to expand. We have a surplus of students wanting our classes as I just stated and so we need to meet that demand. Um scheduling comes around every March and I want to offer every student that wants a CTE class a seat in our um classes but we're running into that. We just can't because everyone as you could see the demand was up. So we through county um SWWC has 21 sub zip codes that means we have programs that we can offer a wide um
036variety of classes but other counties Annab or I'm sorry other districts Ann has 13 Ipsy has five and then what more lake has four so this millillage would help expand programs in those other schools so that students have access to to have more CTE um opportunity. So primarily the district that you live in doesn't determine your opportunities. So again um why now like why is this on the ballot? The state because we have been one of the very few um counties left in the state without a millillage. The county has granted us um called the equipment grant and we've had it the last three years. Uh this year we did not have it. Um but for the state gave us and this is this is money that has to be allocated across the county. So,
037um, you know, with the help of Ryan Row and just the needs of each one of our CTE classes, we were able to look at the, um, some classes that needed some support, whether that be equipment, curriculum updates, and that's what the state provide had intended with these grants. And that's what really has allowed us to sustain and expand some of our current opportunities. So the growth that we've seen the last couple years has been because of this grant um these that that we've had every three years. So we didn't have it last year, we don't have it this year. And um so you know if this millillage were to pass, it would help support some of what this has helped um you know sustain in the last three years. Um, the ISD just came
038out with this graphic and and I want to speak to it for a second. I put all of our current classes on the left. We have 24. Some of our classes fall under the same zip code. Um, so for example, health science and exercise science fall under the state same state certified zip code. Uh, so those are our all of our classes and I'm excited there are students here because not everybody knows what the SWWC is and these are I I I'll stand it for all day long and talk about how phenomenal they are and how important our instructors are to our students. But I want to speak to like what this millillage will do. Um, so it will help sustain our programs. So, like I said, right now all of the CTE programs in
039our county, um, it costs about 10.3 million to run those. And so, if this millillage were to pass, then that would help support and sustain our current programs. So, I I've been asked, will the SWWC still be around if the millillage passes? And that answer is yes, we will still be around. Um, we'll still be offered to six districts. Will there be opportunity for other students to come? I'm sure of it. Um, we're going to have different layers uh so that we do have opportunities. Uh, right now we have for example, I'll use our building trades program. Dexter is creating has a has a program out there. Miland has a program and we Seline has a program. So, we didn't Seline used to be the SWWC used to be the only offering for building trades
040and we just had the demand has gone up. we need people in construction and we want to serve them and so we've developed with the help of the grant um we were able to build some new programs and that is kind of what we would be doing with this. So we would be sustaining what we currently have. we would be um building and expanding to meet the needs of all the demand of the students and then we would be um I think it's important and we can all agree that we start talking about career readiness at a younger age and so building in some curriculum and just getting students excited about all the new careers that are coming um that are being developed that we might not even think about and then just also make
041it more equitable so that all students have the opportunity. Um I can share one of my biggest most um prideful moments of the day is when I stand at the doors and I greet the students from the other schools. So we have about 900 students coming and going from our 23 programs. That's a lot of kids. It's a lot of students, a lot of logistics, but the highlight is seeing them come and, you know, say they're walking in with their welding helmets or they're walking out with their baking goods, um their baked goods. So, I just it's a it's a prideful moment for me because they have this opportunity when otherwise they might not. So, I can go to I think there might be so right now um I think September 28th all the absentee
042ballots were mailed and so those are sitting in mailboxes. I just want to remind people to get those back by November 4th. And then we have decided um I believe in the power of sight. So, our labs are amazing. uh our instructors have worked with industry partners to purchase and and like set up the labs that they're that they replicate industry. And so if you walk through any one of our career and teched labs, you'll see exactly what the same equipment that Lee Bear is using or that Toyota is using. It was like an epiphany for me when I walked through these. I'm like, "This is so exciting." Our students, I often say, I don't even know if they know that the what the opportunity that is before them. Um, so they do when they
043go and tour and go on um, you know, field trips and such. But so anyway, we we're opening our space on October 21st, Tuesday, from 5:30 to 7:00 to any community member that wants to come through the SWWC classes. Um, we're going to have our building trades location downtown Seline open. We'll have our cosmetology location open. And then we'll have all of our labs open at Selen High School. And so I invite anyone that wants to come learn more about the millillage if they want to see our labs. We'll have some instructors. I have a SWWC student advisory um group. So some students will be there too. I'm excited that they have volunteered their time. So if you are around and you want to come see the power of CTE, I invite you to join
044us on October 21st. I'm going to open it up to questions. >> Any pressing questions from the board at this point? Yeah, >> go ahead. >> Okay. So mine's more of a statement and actually you touched on it um in your slides about the 10 million because I've seen some the press release and then I've seen on social media about how it's just a a money grab for our general funds and but it's not it's similar to how the act 18 is set up where you have to spend the money in CTE to be reimbursed and have it go back into the general technically it'll go back into the general fund because it's reimbursed to the back to the district. So it's not like you pass the CTE millillage on November 4th and just a
045bunch of money flows into the schools. >> All of the funds collected will be allocated directly back to CTE. >> Yes. Perfect. >> Thank you for confirming. >> Yeah. >> Jennifer. >> Yeah. Cara, can you put up um the slide that had the 24 different programs on it again? >> Okay. >> At that one. Yep. >> Students in the audience, can you guys take a look at this and look at all of the classes that are up there? Parents or guardians, if you happen to be in the audience and you can answer for your own kids, I'd like to see a raise of hands. How many of you in the audience have taken at least one class or or will be taking one of these classes in your high school career at Seline? >> Exciting.
046>> That's pretty good. It's good. It's being used. Vote yes. >> For sure it is. uh Darcy >> and I know that it's we're talking about it being a Washington application in millillage but it because we are servicing um school districts that are split in counties money is coming in from those other counties if you are in that school district. So it really is a burden that is shared >> uh across an even greater area than just Washington County. >> Thank you Nate. Oh, and Jillian first then Nate. Thank you. >> Um, I just want to say that I have been in three SWW programs. I was in botany in 10th grade and I can commercially landscape which was incredibly cool. Um, I've been in the culinary program and I have been confirmed by Surf
047Safe so I can professionally serve food and I was in welding and all three of the programs I absolutely adored. So, I just want to put it out there. Even if you're going into something that you don't think that you'll use, like I probably won't use welding again, but it was a fantastic experience to see that kind of side of life and I highly recommend it. >> Thank you, Jolene. I will just take a moment and re respond to something she said. So, all of our programs, all of our uh CTE programs have to have a state credential. Um, so they're walking away. Serve safe was was culinaries but every student is going to walk away with some competitive advantage compared to their peers and that is a state requirement. So we all of our
04823 programs are state certified. That means our instructors are next level. They're meeting they have to provide to the state documentation that they met all of this um in you know this criteria and the certifications is one of them. Work-based learning I spoke to that when I was here in um April. Work-based learning is another one. getting students out in industry, internships, um having guest speakers, bringing people from industry, talking about how they got there and what the skill set is. I think that's invaluable. Thank you for bringing that up. Car question I had is with the increased demand over the years and the benefit that these industries are experiencing from having experienced ready to go employees is there any reach from funding or subsidizing from the private industry? >> So what what I can
049say and I want to say thank you to all of our industry partners is they provide um scholarship opportunities, they donate equipment, they provide their time. Lee Bear comes in with our welding and our computer integrated manufacturing and they give them, you know, opportunity to learn and certify. So they can't pay for like staffing per se, but they are providing um opportunities for our students and that whether that be donations um and I'm sorry, internships. Yeah. Uh so again just opportunities that they're they're giving and even a lot of our I mean each program has to have an advisory board so two times a year uh people from industry come and sit on um a board with our each program has to have one and I just I'll speak to building trades when I sat
050in I go to as many as I can and I sat in one last year and the instructor's like we need you know he he named off like five different things he needed and every single one in that room went around and said, "We will donate that, we will donate that, we will give you that." And that's and that's the power of a great advisory board. Um because again, if we don't get that money from either donations, again, the grant no longer occurs, then we have to look at going to the districts and saying we need this money to, you know, keep students safe or to update the labs to be industry standard to meet industry standards. So that's how they give back. Anything from anybody else on the board? No other questions? Well, thank
051you. If questions do arise, Cara, I'm sure we will ask you. >> You know where to find me. I'm happy to help. >> I really came this close to putting a whole bunch of the CTE signs behind me, and I'm sorry I chickenened out, but uh there are more available in the front, correct? >> We do. Yes, we have yard signs uh for anyone that would like to have one. >> Thank you for your time >> and thank you so much and all the best with the the vote. >> Thank you. We're do things uh slightly different this evening. I'm going to we've moved uh administration and board committee updates up front. I'll just name this time around I'll mention each committee that we have and so the community understands that we work in many
052places. uh starting with superintendent then student representative then I'll run down the committees uh one at a time and if we have reports from anybody please chime in and more often than not there will won't be a report and we'll end with miscellaneous for the many many things that we do beyond uh this table but in are involved with the school so we'll start with uh superintendent Kowalsski >> thank you board president McVey so as we turn into midocctober I want to remind our families and staff that fall break is just around the corner we have half day on Friday and no school on Monday. So enjoy that long fall break. Uh the short break though is meaningful uh because you have time to look ahead to the many things to come. So I wish
053everyone a safe weekend, long weekend, but as the weather cools, I've been getting the familiar question often in buildings. So what about snow days? Um I just want to let you know that as Dr. Lodge to serve this community so well um with his snow day. Steve, we are uh plan to be having students play a role in these snow day um announcements. At the same time though, I want to acknowledge that not every family experiences a snow day in the same way. Uh for some schools provide structure, meals, supervision and other resources and those are deeply valued. And so while I am excited to include our students in those and I am getting that question daily in mid-occtober about what we plan, um I thought it was important to recognize that Speaking of weather
054and communication, some of you may have uh seen in my recent uh uh message to the community that we're about to launch our how we communicate uh series that's launching soon from the office of communications and community relations. This is designed to help families understand with clarity and transparency how the district um announces snow days, but also um helps with clarity and transparency of other things that they might see um in the day-to-day of Selen area schools. So, we have put a lot of work into that and we're looking forward to continued feedback and um we appreciate we appreciate your attention to that when they start rolling out here. Many many thanks to the parents and committee members who have joined me at the meet the superintendent events in the summer into the fall. We
055did pizza and priorities last week. I had a small but mighty group of parents who gave us some insights and truly invaluable information as we continue to look forward for what's next for our students. um very people centered uh the again the parents and those who have joined us shared a lot of joy around the table about things that we're doing but also great feedback. I'm also looking forward to the upcoming tailgate with the team which maybe might tap into another group of community event uh community members and that is October 24th from 5:30 to 7 at Horn Stadium. Um, also we are doing trunk or treat and just added the um special education listening lab um partnering with SEAK on that and that is November 12th at 6 PM at Heritage Media Center. Um
056I appreciate everyone who's attended those events um in the space we have created for listening, learning and collaboration. I also want to just extend my sincere thanks as I'm sure others will um to the Foundation for Selen Area Schools for celebrating our alumni. I got to meet some of them um at the Friday's event. I also wanted to mention uh tie these things together. Many of our graduates and alumni trace some of their success back to career and technical education, including one of the stories that was highlighted on Friday on Friday during Friday's event. So, if you haven't yet, I'll echo some other voices. I encourage you to visit the uh WISD website where there's a number of student reels. They tell the story better than us adults. So, while we might talk about these
057wonderful things and the work that's being lifted up, I would really, really encourage you to go listen to some of those. I would also like to uh give a special thank you to Cara Stemer for her leadership in career and technical education in county and beyond and for her efforts to lead us through this initiative in Seline. Um, and I think that's it. Fall break. Have fun. >> Well, wait, wait, wait. We got to have a board meeting first, right? Oh, yes. We need to finish. >> Thank you. Appreciate that. Uh, student representative Jillian Hayes. >> I want to say hello to all the AP Gov kids. Hello everybody. We'll probably be seeing you again as I know you have to get two by the end of the trimester. I was sitting in the same
058seat a week prior begging Falcowski to let me submit a virtual meeting because I couldn't go to another one. Um, just wanted to say hi and that I see you all and good luck to you all. Um, fall sports are finishing up soon. I know cross country has their SEC championships coming up this Thursday, which is a little bit scary and a little bit sad for all of our seniors, to all of our seniors that are leaving their fall sport for the final time. It's going to hurt a lot. Um, and we'll get through it. Just a reminder to sign up for winter sports quite soon. Um, as well, the Selenian High School yearbook won a Spartan for their All Things Considered book. And this year's book, I'm not gonna spoil, but has one of
059the highest honors of being recognized nationally, which only six books get shown, which means we get shown around the country as a role model of, hey, this is what your yearbook should look like if you want to win really high awards. and we have one of our editor editors and chief currently in the house, Carly. Um, so thank you for that. Um, as well, we have the craft show coming up on November 8th. You will see a ton of sports and organizations out there helping out with parking, unloading, and loading and being on the buses. Um, I will be reaching out to non- high school um, schools and seeing what is happening over there. So, I will bring you updates on that soon. And as well at our next meeting, we will have the connecting
060program led by Miss Okconor. >> Thank you so much. As a former yearbook adviser, I absolutely am impressed by our Selenian and uh thank you. Um Citizens for Equality Community, the cool kids call it the CQC. Uh we're going to be meeting this Thursday and Mr. Hansen is our alternate. So on you might get an emergency email from me if I can't make it on those. Uh Chamber of Commerce. Anything for Mr. Austin? Yes, a few things. Um, so the chamber has a few things coming up. Ignite your leadership. That's October 30th, uh, from 8 to 9:30 a.m. at the, uh, EA EHM professional building office. And then also building better business relationships. That's kind of their standing monthly meeting, breakfast meeting. That's November 11th, 2025, uh, 8 to 9:30. And then the 50th annual
061holiday parade, Saturday, December 6th at 5:00 PM downtown Selene. So all of these things, if you want to be in involved or register to go, you can go to ww.selinechamber.org. >> I understand that this year the Selen Area Schools Board of Education is going to have uh some role in the parade. You may not have heard about it yet, but you will soon. Did you want to chime in on that? Do you want to spoil the surprise? Okay, thank you. Um, the foundation for Selenary Schools, Jennifer Stein. >> Uh, since our last board meeting, I was able to attend the Seline alumni committee get together at Dan's Downtown Tavern where Trustee Hansen attended as well and Rachel and Jackie and some other folks. Just a reminder, if you want to get involved with the Selen
062Alumni Committee, you don't necessarily have to have graduated from Seline. We just want a group of folks that are willing to support um initiatives inside our community to recognize our heritage and help um continue to make our community and school district a great place to thrive. Um also got to attend the Hall of Fame football game and really enjoyed the halftime um festivities and taking pictures of all of the wonderful recipients. um and one who couldn't be there, one that was deceased, but I think it was her brother that was there. Um who was a friend of my grandma's. Um so that was pretty cool, I thought. So, uh thank you and congratulations to all of those who won that wonderful award. Um today was our foundation for Seline Area Schools monthly meeting. Just a
063reminder that tomorrow is the last day to register for the fall lunchon. So, this is our fall fundraiser. Our theme is building their future, funding dreams from the ground up. It will be um here next week on uh October 22nd at Selen High School in the Ox Gym. Um the reason it's at Selen High School this year and not at Liberty is because they want to be close to the Steam Center and some um activities and some viewing of the new space. So, please try to register if you can. It's free to attend. You get to hear about um all sorts of great building and um staff grants and what those are being used for, which is really great. Um, just a reminder, if you are staff, um, they give away a $100,000 approximately per
064year. Uh, and they're always taking applications. So, if staff have a great idea or buildings have a great idea on how they would like to innovate and spend that money, please contact um, Stacy Rumsa, our executive director, um, or Julie Simon, our grants coordinator in the foundation. Um, other things coming up, December 6th, the parade. Um, so they'll be walking in that. It's our 50th year. Uh February 20th is our big big spring fundraiser at Webers. We're doing the dueling pianos again, which was a real treat last year, or I guess I should say this year. It was the spring. Um and I think that's it. >> Uh February 20th at Webers. Thank you. Um board associations. Well, that's me. Uh I actually start with the Washington Association of School Boards. I serve as Selen's
065rep, representative on the Association of School Boards, all nine districts representative. I currently sit on the executive as a past president. Uh main discussion focused on upcoming professional development. We're planning a deep dive into school finance and examining how funding shapes board policies. Uh we've got an amazing speaker, two actually, David Arson from Ann Arbor, he's extremely well known in that field, and Brian Marcel. Uh the session will run about 90 minutes. We're very cognizant of the fact that people fall asleep when you talk about finance. So, we're going to be looking at that very carefully. We're going to try and keep it lively. On to uh the dates for that will be either January 22nd to Thursday or January 29th. We're also planning a March 12th session on artificial intelligence and its impact on
066schools. And I'm going to meet be meeting with uh Michigan Virtual University's Jamie Fitzpatrick tomorrow to work on partnering for that. We're going to be talking about large language models, privacy assessment, uh, and also the environmental impact of AI and data centers. And in fact, I'm going to be visiting the, uh, M University of Michigan's, uh, uh, Ford School on Public Policy later this month. That's open to anyone actually, if you want to join on, I think it's November 30th. If you're interested, I'll send you the information. Uh, I also met as part of the Michigan Association of School Boards, the Governmental Relations Committee. We met on Friday morning. Uh Brenda Pilgrim, who many of you know, reminded us that we still don't have a federal budget. Uh she did note that forwardfunded programs can
067continue to draw funds, federal funds uh for the rest of the fiscal year, but that's not going to affect us in this district at this point. Jennifer Smith, whom you all know, also shared uh updates on the finalized state budget, and there are a few highlights. I don't want to step on your toes, Tim, so we'll make sure we coordinate. Okay. Uh virtual days now will only count if a district applies for a special exemption. Uh the GSRP will continue to be funded. The ELLL funding has increased slightly and special ed remains funded at 100% of the target. There is one noticeable notable change though is that the $100 million offset for Mipers, that's the retirement fund, uh that had been instituted during the Governor Snyder days is no longer available. and uh we're going
068to do some shifting and adjusting on that and I understand that um our chief financial officer is well aware of that. There are some other issues and some special areas called 164k which could include potential penalties and I understand you were Dr. Kowalsski shared some of those earlier with us. uh we need to comply with a whole list of requirements which we do in any case anyway but just uh just to keep you up to date on that uh sex education advisory board Lauren Gold. So, we met and we talked about the B Safe program and some um barriers that we're running into and getting it um instituted, but um hopeful that uh the team will find creative ways to uh get the kids that learning. Um we also uh reviewed the implementation this spring
069of our um late elementary ed middle school curriculum um on puberty and um that is you know the team is working really hard to get that going this spring. So it's very exciting. Um we talked about upcoming presentation to the board regarding proposed high school curriculum and reviewed that with the committee. Um, so it was all in all a very productive uh meeting of the CE. >> Very good. And you also joined me on the uh DEI advisory committee, but as I mentioned last week, they're they're not meeting this week. We've added 11 new members or at least we've invited 11 new members from the community and we had about 30 applicants from uh from the community. But we'll talk about that more about that later. Wellness committee, have they met or do you have
070anything to report? I have nothing for wellness, but I will skip ahead to CARES um which is meeting for the first time tomorrow to go over round one. So I'll have more of an update next time. >> Excellent. So there do you happen to know how many applications they have? >> Many. Excellent. All right. Good. Uh the city of Seline, we're still waiting for uh um Dan Swallow, our new city manager, to uh get his feet good and wet uh before we initiate that. and uh Jennifer Stein is co- is also with me on that committee. Um fine. And the last section is miscellaneous. Anything from the board for the good of the order. Oh, something from Jennifer Steen. Um, we discussed this, Rachel and I, in our meeting at the foundation this morning, but
071I just wanted to pause and um um recognize the passing of one of our hornets from the class of 2023 and our thoughts are with uh his family. I appreciate that. Thank you. We'll move on. We have three discussion items this evening. uh the board finance committee met this evening and Tim Austin's chair is going to share uh updates from that meeting. >> So our agenda was kind of small this time but um the one one of the things was a count update and so we're seeing some positive growth in the numbers uh between kindergarten and 9th grade. seen some positive notes there in growth and uh but we are we're still going to be roughly 66 full-time equivalents down but that's better than what we budgeted which was 108 so we're going to be
072a positive well not positive I guess I don't want to say positive but better 42 to the good from what we budgeted >> and then on the state budget you touched a lot of things so there there was a lot many grants uh that Selene uses were still in the budget we don't really know what that plays out or what that looks like dollar wise at this point in time, but it's good that they kept those in. A lot of times they'll, you know, move things around to make make the numbers work, which is kind of like the per pupil increase. They're calling it this historic per pupil increase, but at the end of the day, when it goes through the whole sausage maker, which is kind of your you you touched on some of
073the things, um, it's not it's still good, but it's not maybe historic. It's not $455 per student good. It's maybe $200 per student good. >> Yeah. Right there. >> Okay. >> Anything else with our finance team? >> Super. Thank you. Well, I would like to pass this over. We're now on to the policy committee and we have a first reading of a bill the 7440.01, the video surveillance and electronic monitoring. And you have your documents in front of you, your red green copies. And can someone tell me what page that's on just to save me zipping? If you don't have it, that's fine. I'll Oh, here we go. Six. So, I think we alluded to this at a previous meeting. Uh to some extent, uh this was an update for language um because Oh, wait.
074Am I looking at Sorry, I've just lost my page on my computer. Um, so we were updating the language. Um, but we also had some questions regarding um, you know, video monitoring, privacy of students as well as safety. Um so uh basically the policy committee is recommending that we approve this as seen in your packet. >> So anytime we see a green X that is the option that the committee has decided upon right that we would like to recommend. >> Correct. Virgette, are there any questions to ask uh regarding this? So, we'll call this our first reading. And if there are no major issues tonight, can I also recommend that you send uh emails to uh the policy chair and members? That would be Darcy and myself just to, you know, so we all hear
075what the questions are. Does that work? Good. Wow. You're blasting along and I'm grateful for that. Ben, we might need that presentation. Uh, the policy committee also spent uh some time we've we've talked about this at other policy meetings. I think the one of Dr. Lot's last meetings with us was the idea of at some point moving from our uh policy service which is Niola at this point to uh to trun we are what is the the phrase we are uh a me Oh well well I'll just carry on. Um we to make that transition apparently it is considerably different than what we did when we made the MASB to NEOLA transition in 2017 2018. Uh in that transition there were as many as uh nine volumes of policies nine volume sets that we went
076through and looked through all of the various options. Uh there's a different system for this. Um before we get on, I'd like to just say that after discussing this lightly uh a few months ago and then um more slightly more seriously at the last policy committee meeting, the policy committee and I I'll speak for them because they said that they would strongly recommend that we move from Niola to Trun. And as we dig deeper into this into discussions, you may have heard some of the frustrations that we have experienced in making adjustments to the policy. And uh it is a very languageheavy set of policies and in looking at Trun's policies, we've been quite pleased with the differences. And if we look at this presentation very quickly, I'll go through it, Ben, step by step.
077Here is how they would like us to do the transition. If we decide as a board to go with trun uh we'll down if we decide we're going with them, we'll download everything from trun law and go through all the policy implementation checklist and obviously start on the easy task and ask a list of questions for our attorneys. Uh some of whom we've met before um and we need to also start thinking about what online platform we're going to use. But before we go further, one question that keeps coming up. I've asked from the beginning, members of the public have asked from the beginning, what happens to the policies that we have worked on diligently, uh, including the DEIA advisory committee policy, the transgender non-binary conforming student policy, and others, will they be ported over
078to Trun? Uh, we call those, I call those bespoke policies, and the answer is yes, they will. And it was not just that. There were other policies like the school of choice. We had a couple of tweaks in it. I asked other districts how they dealt with the transfer. And one district, I think I think it was Dexter said they had their policies have been so modified over the years, especially under the finance volume section five. And they they spent a lot of time on making sure that those policies went over smoothly. So, I'm convinced that Trun will embrace and support those policies. And as there more more questions will arise, I'm sure. Let's go to the next month. Ben, uh there's a policy implementation meeting via Zoom. We get to ask all of the
079questions that we need to ask and we start tackling the more detailed checklist items. That's in the second month. So, you see this as a bit of a process. The third month is the next one, Ben. uh and we also get to pepper them with questions as they arise and it we'll filter them through the policy committee. We have to finalize policies for presentation to the board. We have sample resolutions and I have a few links here that I want you to look at a bit later about samples just to see what and how other districts have used um uh trun versus niola. And we also get to upload to the online platform of our choosing and let's keep on going. And at at a certain point, we will have a vote at this board
080table to rescend all of the policies from from Niola and start following MASB. The process happened for Niola about May 2018. And um I think Tim, you were here for that. You were board president at the time or you were or you're on the you were on the team, but it was it wasn't that painful. Uh let's go on to the next office. They offer um Sorry. Right. They offer two policy committee meeting uh policy meetings. Half of the policy manuals covered on each day. There's no additional cost to attend. No limit to how many district representatives join. So you can attend every single one of them if you wish. Let's go to the next one. Thank you. Uh quick note, there is the Matt Eping safe school law. It's a unique statutory requirement for
081anti-bullying. we need to have our own special hearing on that uh matter uh as a special board meeting, but we'll talk about that as we get uh farther along. Um and if because of that, it usually takes two full board meetings before we're fully transitioned over to Trun. The next one, uh now we talked about platforms. Uh some school districts like Fruitport, if you get a chance to look up Fruitport, look up their their school policies, look under school board and policies and you'll see board book. Uh MASB uses board book. Uh I find it's adequate uh for hosting the policies. Simly is another one. Westshore ESD uses that. Uh some districts like Adrian just upload all the policies to their website. Some use a Google Drive folder. Essenaba does that. I'm not sure how
082we will do it as we move along as I I'm going to keep looking and talking to other districts as we all will no doubt to see which which uh systems they appreciate best or which work best for them. We also subscribe through tron to policy updates and apparently each July there's an annual update that's available on trun law and which is where my very first question arises. We have so many changes in legislation happening all the time. How can we just get along with just one single update? Uh, and that's a question that's the first question out of my mouth, I'm sure, when we have that. Uh, the board also must vote to approve the updates, and we do them all at once in one mass. Um, the next slide. Oh, the updates include
083an update summary, a review video, uh marked PDFs of changes and uh updates of policies available to download that we can review at our at length and our convenience later. I think there's maybe two more. Yes. So, the next steps on our part, we need to become familiar with Truman policies, how they look, how they feel. uh maybe do some crosswalks of policies that we're close close to or know pretty well and take a look and see how uh from Niola and see how Trun handles them. And also uh feel free to reach out to other districts who've gone through the process. And if we're not sure who they are, I'm happy to generate that list. I I had the list at some point. I just don't happen to have it with me this evening.
084And I think there's one more. Is there one more slide, Ben? That's it. Great. So let's oh open it up to discussion and I do have some prices for us and uh uh that I can maybe talk to you about. Also I have a trans a zipped file of transition guide service benefits manual samples handbook samples policy service order form which we don't have to worry about and uh a list of through trune policy subscribers 156 of them across this state and other states. So, if I can answer any questions now, great. Feel free to ask them. I may not have the answers, but I can certainly ask them ahead of the next board meeting. >> Michael, >> yes. Um just to note that I think you talked about at your last presentation in the
085spring that um there's some consistency here because um we won't be we are already talking to TR about our NEOA policies and this way we can close that gap and um use them for both. >> So just to be so just to be clear on that that's an interesting thing when a statement when a question comes up we don't ask Niola for help. We asked Trun who are our lawyers and so are Collins and Blaha but we asked Trun for help with the policies and then we have this intermediary company Neiola uh which very very slowly reacts to our questions if that and for ye for the last year I don't think we've even had a rep >> and the and the consistency continues because they do our handbooks as well so we're they do
086our handbooks right now coalesing our services So, it seems like a very short putt, so to speak. That's the That's my only sports analogy ever. >> All right. Um, Tim, >> couple questions. One, cost compared to like what we're already paying with Niola. And then also I think when we went from MASB to NEOLA we had a I don't know if it was the policy committee that did the heavy lifting or was it an ad hoc committee because I mean that's a lot of reviewing to make sure everything moves over correctly and I think we found that some stuff didn't move over correctly uh last time. So um was there going to be an ad hoc type committee to help with that? >> That is correct. There w it was a heavy lift. The three
087members of that committee and it was the policy committee were Paul Heinik, Karen Delhi and some fellow named McVey and we it took months to go through all of those checklists and all those options. Sometimes Scott Graden would lobby hard for one or another and we'd have to remind him that it's a job, not a crown. Um but now in hindsight there are some cases where I thought it would be better for the superintendent to take on some of the questions uh some of the issues. But uh to your concern about cost and I will send you an email from them, but the actual policy manual costs outright $8,000. Administrative guidelines cost the package cost $4,500 and this is a onetime fee. The uh they also have a model student and employee handbook package, which
088I didn't think anyone was interested in, for about $1,500, but we'll listen to them and likely make their pitch. every year the uh recommended updates at this point is under $3,000 annually. Um and or it could be less if no updates are needed. And I just laughed at that um when I first encountered it. So uh I will send to this board uh this particular email with all the zipped folders and you can do some investigation on your own. Uh schools that they mentioned that they are working with are and you might want to tackle one of these if you know anybody there. Dexter, Chelsea, Miland, Brighton, Novi, Southfield, Ferndale, Van Beern, Airport, Mason, Consolidated, Blissfield, Britain, Deerfield, Tacci, Adrian, Madison School District, Clinton, Northwest, and Colombia. So, if you have friends or colleagues in
089any of those, just give them a call and say, "Hey, what do you think about this Trune Policy Service?" But, um, and that so the email that I'll send you all has those prices precisely. Yes, Jennifer Stein. I was just gonna uh I don't know if we really answered Tim's question about an ad hoc committee. >> Um at this point I think well it's up to the policy by well >> if we decide to do this we'll be talking about doing this in January February. We may want an ad hoc committee. We may want to run it through the policy committee. I think Paul Heinek who was the president of the board at the time just said let's just let policy do it. And uh I'm okay with that as well because we won't have
090anything else to do. >> Well, and I and I again something something you had pointed out before was that um their policies are more concise and so we're actually sort of trimming down rather than so we're getting we're getting tighter in the policy language rather than growing. >> If we do go for an ad hoc, am I hearing you volunteer, Tim? Uh, I suspect that it'll I don't know. It all depends on how we shake up with the next organizational meeting, but I suspect it'll probably be the biggest work of the policy committee with some outreach to the rest of the the the board on certain key chapters or volumes. It's a five volume set as opposed to a nine volume set if that m if that makes any sense. Um, we have looked at
091other policies that were even simpler. Miller Johnson read almost like a haik coup is and and I thought that was open to problems. Yes, ma'am. >> I I didn't know Tim were you asking to be policy committee because I know that's probably not true. I'm pretty I can guess that one. Um so I thought of four things while you were talking. Don't need answers to these but these will be things that I'll want to consider um the next time we talk about this. I'll start with cost just because you brought it up. So $17,000 annually all in first year um potentially with the 1500 sway. I'd like to um an analysis of what we've spent with Neiola over the past like five years. Can >> I just clarify that when you say that much annually?
092It's a one time. >> I said I I said the first lift. So you said too. So >> year one. Okay. >> Year one 17,000 if we include the 1500. Um and then the 8,4500 I think falls away. So just an analysis comparing it and I'd like to look at Nola um since COVID and look at multiple years just because it's been a very ambiguous time. So there might be fluctuation in cost. So that'd be interesting to see. >> So the question is just to be clarifi or somebody is going to look it up. You would like to know what we spend annually on >> Neiola say for the past five years. Yes. >> Oh, we can easily get that. >> Not asking offh hand. Yeah, just in the future. Um the the second thing
093I was thinking of is there any type of lame duck period? So, how are we insulated from harm or ambiguity while we transfer? So, just better understanding. Okay, July 1, this is our policy. June 30th, this is our policy. just understanding the clear transition because what if something was to come up with our public comment policy or or harassment or something, we want to know exactly how that's covered because we have had transitions where we have to look partially at an old one and partially at a new one. >> I get that and just I have a partial answer right now that the that we resend the entire previous packet. Now, if there are issues that come up, we we hope we'll catch as many as possible in the transition. I understand that as as
094we discovered, as Tim alluded to, we did lose one or two in the transfer the last time. >> Yeah. >> Um nothing no one was going out of their way to make sure we didn't see it. It just didn't cross over because Niola didn't have >> a clear policy on such and such a thing. >> Yep. Which leads me to number three. Um like you said, crosswalking all policies. So, I I would not want to just see a sample of their policies. I want to read all of their policies and I'd like a um a match item to item like in an Excel spreadsheet. So, if there's policy, you know, I'll use public comment again because it's one we refer to all the time like what is their correlation? So, you have policy PO143 or
095whatever it happens to be and here's their correlation. That way, we can look and see if there's gaps. So if we have um a policy on nutrition and if they don't have one on nutrition, we can immediately see that there's a gap there. So I'd like to see like an analysis in columns. And then the last point was I'd like to understand what the technical transfer is and and what supports are. So maybe a J question. So if we pull down exactly because we have so many revisions and we house these on our website like can we cache that and be able to go back and look at all of the individual policies as they lived their last time on Selen Area school's website for reference moving forward and then kind of do a cache
096of the incoming policies so you have those two moments in time so if there's any discrepancies in the future we have those IT records. I know that that's relatively simple to do and you one could even start that themselves in their own uh backyard and just download each and every one of our policies and admin guidelines as well. That can be done but if we can do it all in a single goal that would be great. >> Yeah, like a little package. >> And as for the crosswalk, I crosswalked as Dr. Kowsolski can attest. I crosswalked one the first section and as I tried to do the next one, it became incredibly difficult because one of our policies may be spread out over three or four of of Trun's policies and at a certain point
097I simply ran out of time. So if you're I'm well wide open to having you take a crack at that unless you're thinking that this is something that Trun could or should be doing for us. >> You mean what was the crosswalk? You mean the crosswalk? Um I would think it would lie with policy committee or ad hoc whomever ends up taking the the transition proposal. So this isn't like an implementation um task. This is a analysis and conversation before voting task. So like if the policy committee recommends that we move to this new um uh policy system like it's a piece of the evidence to support a possible move. So it has to become it has to be coming to us prevote. So the four were cost um lame deck period crosswalk and technical.
098So I think those are the four things that I would vote on like those are the information pieces and then I would vote. >> I appreciate that. One thing I as um the person who seems to be taking the lead on this at this point at this point is that I will ask all the board members to pinpoint at least one policy that they feel particularly strongly about. You mentioned two right there. I forgot what the audience participation because we worked a huge amount on that one and we don't want to lose any of that. And what was the other one that you'd mentioned just off the >> I just mentioned nutrition. >> Nutrition was another one. Thank you. Yeah. All right. So if you have any particular that would make life a lot easier
099for me trying to put together a crosswalk if I know which policies you're most interested in. So take a look at our own policies and say yeah desperately want to make sure we keep that one intact and which parts of it we want to keep intact. And the other thing we have to do is to make sure that Trune will support us on that and they will. We were very clear with them on that. They they are our lawyers. They may not always disagree or agree with every aspect of our policies the way we've written them, but they will back us up in a court of law if push comes to shove because they are our lawyers. Any other questions for the crew? We're sounding pretty positive about making this move at this point, but
100if I get any um comments from the rest of the board saying let's tap the brakes a little harder, I get that. But before we do, let's take a good close look at the email that I'm going to send you in the next day with all of this uh information. I'll send it out before we leave this board meeting tonight. Are there other questions about this process? I will also tell you I've heard great support from this if you don't mind me saying from our superintendent Dr. Kowalsski. Our former superintendent uh Scott Grac is was very frustrated with Neiola. And one example, I'll give you a real clear example that he gave me one day. He was so frustrated, he looked up the word weapon for a particular policy, an issue had come up. There
101were 46 separate instances of policies that related to weapon somewhere in the oldest patch. And he asked Trun what their response was and he said it was two, maybe three. I'm not 100% sure, but you might want to do that search if you get access to a a Trune set of policies. All right, if there are no more questions, then we'll go. I have no idea where we are in the agenda. Oh, the consent agenda. Um, thank you. Consent agenda is listed in this in this agenda and will not be read aloud. The motion noted will allow for the authorization of all items. Feel like I'm missing something. No. Of all items in the consent agenda, um, unless a member of the board requested any one or all be considered individually. I'd like to entertain
102a motion to authorize the consent agenda as printed. >> So moved. Gold >> Lauren Gold. Thank you. >> Support Berwick. >> Darcy Burwick. Thank you very much. All in favor, please say I. >> I. I. >> Oh, great. 70. Thank you so much. Uh items on the next agenda. Dr. Kowalsski. >> I will be presenting on my transition plan for the board and um our community next board meeting. Excellent. >> Excellent. Um, great. Uh, we're open to a public comment. Are there any? There is no public comment this evening. Thank you. Uh, uh, the next meeting of the board of education will actually be held two days from now on October 16th for the purpose of a board retreat. And, uh, we are going to enter into close session for the purpose of superintendent evaluation.
103It's one of the four times we meet throughout the year. Uh, I'd like to entertain a motion to enter close session at we'll say 8:00 PM. Uh, with the intent to reopen open session at approximately we'll just say 9 and round it off. Say again, we can do an 810 will start and leave at about 910 at the very latest. For the purpose of superintendent evaluation section 8A under 8A, a simple majority vote is sufficient to enter into a closed session. So, do we have a motion? >> Burwick. Second >> Tim, is that Tim? Yep. Tim Austin. Thank you very All in favor, please say I. >> I. >> Great. I hear seven eyes. Uh, thank you very much. The rest of the public because here's the AP thing. Because we're going into close session,
104that means the public leaves and it's just the board and any guests that we asked to be here to help us through this evaluation. In this case tonight, I just believe it's Dr. Kowalsski sharing. Miss Yonke will not be here. No, absolutely not. Uh and so and it's a close session to the public. Uh b we are eight reasons for going into close session and we selected one of them tonight and that was for superintendent evaluation. So thank you very much and we'll escort you out and slam the door behind you. only have to stay. be back on. I'd like to entertain a Thank you. Welcome back. I'd like to entertain a motion to adjourn the regular board of education meeting of October 14th at 9:13. Do I have a motion? D. That would be
105Lauren Gold moves. Second by what? Nate Hansen on. He's on the books now. All right. Great. All in favor, please say I. >> We have unanimous. Thank you very much. We'll The next meeting will be October 16th, but it will be a board retreat. Thank you.