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Saline Area Schools: Board of Education Meeting (02.25.2025)

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YouTube / Saline Video
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2025-02-26
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Washtenaw County, MI
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16,102 words · about 90 min
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2026-06-10

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001I'd like to call to order the selary Schools Board of Education meeting of February 25th 2025 uh standing as you are able we're going to start the Pledge of Allegiance led by Rebecca singer Junior at the high school you were awesome Rebecca thank you that was that was so easy that was good uh there are no public comment but we do have one extended public comment I'd like to ask theen Education Association representative Bridget Corey to please approach the microphone you know how to turn it on and everything and how much time are you going to need you okay good evening I am Bridget Corey and I am a proud parent in this District raising my children in Seline has been a source of Pride for my family we value the district's history of Excellence

002um and appreciate the many opportunities and service that Services it provides both in and out of the classroom there is so much to love about this community and School District when I ask my children what they love most about the school their answers are never about the facilities programs or security cameras they love school because of the people the ones that stand before them inspiring redirecting encouraging and supporting them these individuals give of themselves with care and compassion that cannot be measured and it is these incredible people who bring me here tonight I have the honor of representing the dedic dedicated Educators behind me as the president of the Seline Education Association since Co the landscape of education has changed and the challenges of this profession have only grown yet despite these obstacles these Heroes

003continue to show up every day because they care because they believe every child deserves the opportunity to succeed they are the ones who recognize a spark of potential in a student and ignite their curiosity opening doors to new possibilities simply because they believe in them while they are deep deeply passionate about their work passion alone is not enough they deserve to be fairly compensated for the work they do the collective bargaining between Seline area schools and the Seline Education Association expired on December 31st 2024 the previous contract negotiated in the fall of 2021 was shaped by the uncertainty surrounding Co covid the economy and public education funding given the climate at the time any pay increases were modest with 0% on the scale for the most of the staff for the past two years the

004district worked with us during the difficult years that followed the crash of the housing market so we were willing to work with them and prioritize the financial stability of the district over the course of the three-year contract record funding flowed into public education even Beyond relief funds in this time per pupil funding increased over 10% special education funding has grown the district's fund balance has risen to approximately 24% and most recently the UA which is a pension liability was permanently reduced by 5.75% because of our partnership in the past we trusted that when it was time to negotiate our contract the district would respond appropriately we had a history of working together and a relationship with the district built on honesty and trust while we didn't always agree we understood one another unfortunately that is

005changed today we are bargaining with a different Administration and in a different Financial climate although we are making good progress through language items in the contract we are struggling to find Common Ground around the salaries of the people who work closely with children we have seen substantial increases in revenue and a very healthy fund balance we have also seen record inflation and increased healthare costs that have put a strain on our education Educators financially we belied the district would recognize this despite all of this their First Financial offer added 0% to the salary schedule while there has been some movement from the district they presented their best and final offer with an unwillingness to recognize the permanent 5.75% UA reduction if this partner was partnership was one of honesty we would be able to factor

006in this new source of Revenue the Seline Education Association has requested mediation from the Michigan employment relations commission and even our most senior member of the bargaining team who has been bargaining the certified staff contract for over two decades will be going to mediation for the first time so as you can see this has not been our practice I didn't want to be here tonight I didn't want to address you publicly I wanted to keep the fight behind closed doors however the doors were shut on us after the district provid presented their final best offer I reached out to superintendent latch I was told he had nothing to discuss with me and he stood in support of his team I respect that and hopefully all of you respect my decision to stand in support of

007my team meaning all of these people behind me my team is the heartbeat of this District we are valued by this community we bring the facilities and the curriculum to life my team deserves more than just recognition we deserve to be compensated fairly for the incredible work we do we deserve a contract that ensures a comfortable life so we can maintain our focus on the classroom on our students with a growing teacher shortage we must keep Seline a district that attracts and retains the best talent our community deserves it most importantly our students deserve it Seline has always been a leader and we have the opportunity to lead to show Educators that working with our youth is valued and appreciated make people the priority because at the end of the day they are the driving

008force behind all of it thank you thank you very thank you very much Mrs Corey thank you right we're at the I have no response to last week's public comment uh revisions approval of the agenda we can add or remove items from the agenda uh or sorry or they can be changed at the request of an individual board member or the superintendent agenda have to be approved before proceeding further do we have a motion to approve this agenda as printed so move stean stean second is that Tim yep thank you all in favor please say I I I great uh oh sorry 60 thank yeah thank you very much we have several action items this evening uh the first is I'd like to entertain a motion to adopt the proposed 20 2024 2025 general fund

009budget amendment as submitted by superintendent ousley I'll make it motion gerby gerby second ises K thank you uh I think we may need I don't think so would you like us to do B first we'd like to modify the agenda ever so say without objection I'd like to entertain a motion to adopt the resolution authorizing the issuance of the 2025 School building and site bonds series two not to exceed $60 million as prepared by the trun law firm and submitted by assistant superintendent Oley do I have a motion well I'll make that one two and thank you taxpayers thank you H Darcy Berwick seconding thank you very much so at this point we w we welcome Miranda asley to if you can get through that way it's a bit tight we're gonna have to a

010discussion we have two motions on the table which one we're going to be looking at I motion B for first when um Miranda's ready with her presentation no we're just working our did I miss did I Miranda are we doing a or b Bud yeah we're doing the budget the back up to no sorry I apologize there is one thing in the slide deck that I noticed was an error and so I will have to update that and then I will send it to you I was just going to send you the updated one so that's why the delay oh sorry were you're not ready for me we went ahe we're ready for you no we're it's everything's fine we're ready for you though okay so this what you're approving and that action item is

011our February budget amendment to the current year so go ahead to the next slide in this we have all of our total revenue um we have the in the green slide is kind of or in the green column is what you are approving for those um State sources local intermediate so I've done in the next column though I've also compared those numbers to our original budget that we passed back in June and I'm also comparing them to some actuals from the prior year so in each of these um we can if we talk all the way about the right column all the way over to the right in the gray we look that is looking at what we're mending today compared to what we truly spent at audited final things from last year and so

012you'll see our local sources we are up [Music] $554,000 the immediate sources is 2.8 million this is largely because of um state aid um or sorry the intermediate the act8 dollars that come from WID and the local source of um our tax dollars that come to the ISD and then come to the school district This is highly based upon the payout that comes in December and that's coming from our prior Year's um actuals they wait to do the final payout of those in the the next year so that they can use those actual numbers in FY 23 to 24 we saw a $2 million increase in spending in special ed so therefore seeing this increase um in revenues is not surprising it is actually following the trend of what we are spending so we fill

013out a 4096 is what it's called in September and that's what how they utilize those numbers to then do that last plug for the last payment of the prior year so we kind of see some lag in that timing of our expenditures to when we receive those revenues um in the next side we have state we had continued in Prior years to pull out those State one time in federal one time as we kind of saw some of that covid funding and things like that kind of come in but you'll we're kind of getting back to now we're not having those I left it in there separated out though because we still had some of that money last year um so holistically though on the state and the federal side um we that's a reduction

014of 1.5 million so if we go to the next slide I kind of took a much more deeper dive into whoops one too many go back one so I did a deeper dive into the state revenues we're in at this point where in the last couple of budget present presentations that I've done I've said we really need to kind of watch at some of the things a state may do in general um ORS is one of those big the pension um reform in in the past and and unfunded this is really coming to be a Hot Topic in the legislative um sessions so in general these numbers in the total and the bottom tie out back to the last slide in state sources so we kind of just zoomed into that one um section in

015there so we pulled them out into some categories here so I've listed it as per pupil that's kind of like the the set thing you here this is how much you get per pupil then in the next column there's the or in the next row is ORS 147a so the 147 A4 is a new item and it was brand new in the PA act 120 of one of 2024 and with that we also already get a 147 A1 and then 147a I think three or two it's one of those with that so in general we the 147 A4 that was brand new we'll talk a little bit more about that on the next slide but that was about 2.1 million but then our 147 A2 did reduce about 735,000 so they're lumped together there in

016one lump then our 147 C I did write here that there a net zero so that part of what the ORS Revenue that comes in goes right back out on the other side of is expenditures the district it's kind of it feels like a pass through we're not able to put it in kind of a balance sheet we have to record it as revenue and we have to record it as expenses throughout every one of our funds functions and things to that matter but it is a net zero but you'll see it's a lot of dollars so as we talk about what our total at the bottom line of what our revenues are and expenditures are for the district it kind of makes this inflated up and inflated down so for a couple years it's

017called they added a one-time payment and it was more than one time but to that it made all of our expend expenditures and our revenues up and they were big swings millions of dollars in One Direction so we see this year that has swung down they're making less payments to that unfunded liability through schools and so therefore it's a whole reduction on um one of our line items there so it feels like the district's swinging up and Swinging down but it is really a net zero when we back up from looking in expenditures and revenues it is Net Zero Effect so in order to make these numbers kind of also tie out to the state there I put a couple line items in our other discretionary I'm calling them um special ed has a specific

018line in the state state budget and so that's pulled out there separately as well as grants and then grants one time just to match our um formatting that we've been doing for for several years so one of the other things that I've kind of um done in this slide as well if we go all the way over to the right in the gray you'll see I've kind of lumped some things together to get some to kind of illustrate some ideas here when the government when it finally got signed and passed that we had zero dollars per pupil that was a really scary time for a moment in realizing that we weren't really everyone had them in their budgets all three Governor's house senates um proposals had money in for the per pupil allowance and it

019didn't come through so they took that out we all had it in our budgets however they said you will get this new 147 A4 re Revenue line item and you can see as that came out they were documents and things like that to show the districts that Cashwise you'll be okay this offsets this even though this has to do with pension this is is going to be okay so I've lumped those two numbers together so you can see that that together is approximate reduction of 237 so that's comparing last year's numbers to our budget in February that we're amending right now in the next line item I kind of just put an X there to to just say State for the moment of let's not even count it in it's in revenues and expenditures and

020so let's just not count that in it's a Net Zero Effect to the district so as we go down to the next so the other discretionary that's a reduction of about 10,000 we go to special ed not surprising to see those factors there those are as well based upon our reported actual numbers in special ed and our we were seeing a increase there then in Grants in Grants one time I kind of lumped those together because there were some some grants inside of the one time that became not no longer one time one of the safety monies um rolled into a new mental health and safety together so they kind of are no longer one time they're kind of ongoing and so the net of our in the state side is up 420,000 a lot

021of this has to do with our mental health and safety money which is 31aa which we are still spending the last year's pot we are spending those in the rear through this these couple of years where our funding was um put out with the state budget but didn't start receiving it till very late in the year we're out we are in that Grant in a rear the the funding came so late in the year we started using that pot late and so we're still this year spending the larger pot that is from last year's allocation we know this year the allocation is a lot smaller and so that will affect us next year so on some of those estimates that you are not approving that there's there for illustration on that form those uh reductions

022are in there in those revenues so if we look at those buckets kind of there it's all of the state together but if we subtract basically out the 147c that is a Net Zero Effect to the budget we are increasing in the state whole pot of actual dollars coming in 788 th000 so as we go to the next slide um this talks a little bit about some of the confusion that the state has in its legislative processes so part of the PA act 120 of 2024 it's actually the whole act for the whole entire budget so lots of pages it has every little line item in for the whole budget per pupil every single grant that some we get some we don't get but one of the pieces was the two new pieces of language

023in this budget or in that act so one of them was the 147 A4 that I referenced is 2.1 million how they equated this was that they discussed that the new Revenue would equal to a change from 2.96% down to 15.21 for one part that makes up the ORS total rate so I I will also show this on another slide but the ORS rate is made up of multiple parts so keep that in mind here so instead of fixing the ORS rate on what we pay they said leave it alone pay exactly what you're paying but we're going to give you this line item over here for that equates to this change and as you saw on the previous slide they also reduced and didn't have any per pupil funding at the same time as

024they gave that the other piece in the the other temporary fix was also 147g which also is coming in a source of a revenue um they stated that the health care fund is now no longer underfunded and right now in certain people's plans because there's various plans for AA system that they are deducting 3% out of their paychecks and goes directly to ORS they're saying that it's not unfunded that 3% doesn't need to be collected instead of actually ending it they gave us a one-time revenue for the district to give this Revenue back to the people that are paying it so again it is a pass through I do want to caution though I did have to in the budget though we did have to expense tax expense for this and a very small amount

025of or for this because it is a when we get the revenue from the state we turn around and are paying it back to employees currently starting the Friday the we the employees and the district also have to tax it because it was a tax exempt at the time that it was deducted so there is about a you know $45,000 expense that the taxes in the ORS is a small part because it's not every plan so part of the next thing when this happened back in the kind of summer fall time a lot of people spoke to their legislators this is a problem this one time revenues coming in is problematic to to look at our future they responded with the the pi Act 27 of 2024 which then makes both of those changes permanent

026so instead of giving revenues the permanent change to the ORS rate one piece of the total ORS rate from 2096 going down to 15 um 21 so on the surface it looks like hey the RSA is going down 5.75 and it permanently removes we will no longer be required to deduct 3% from people's paychecks starting in October with the the state fiscal year so they are becoming permanent so if you go to the next slide this is not meant for you to see the actual numbers it's just trying to illustrate um a point here on the very left we have our fiscal year 24 then we have 25 and 26 so all of these changes um the revenue kind of coming in is happening in the 25 column and then the changes to the rates

027are coming in in the FY 26 so why I've put in there the fy4 is really important um you can't see because I said it's kind of small you will get these slides in PDF so you can look at it further later but in this health column in FY 24 there is 7% then when I go to the middle column one column in there is zeroed out but all the other columns have changed so some from FY 24 to fy2 even though the columns some some of the columns decrease other ones increase and so the reference there is the the main plan that most people are currently still in is it went up from 24 to 25 of 0.2% so very small but didn't really go down even though parts inside of there went down

028um then when we go all the way to 20 um 25 26 all the way to the right those rates are now released which is kind of historically very very early for them to release these this is talking about for for the fall of 20526 the the main rate at the top is decreasing it is decreasing 1.45% and then there are some other plans as you look down the other plans there are plans that are decreasing 5.75% so I just wanted to show that though the legislation feels very it's going to be this the devils in the details as some plan are going down to that some plans are not so the other plan is going down to 1.5 so it varies from 1.5 um 45% to a 5.75% so I just want to go

029into that a little bit um in the next slide so we start with expenses now we flip to the other side this is one way to break down our expenses and kind of see where the increases are happening um so as you can see most of our um increases is in salaries so we we saw from last year to this February amended budget is a $2.5 million increase in salaries pay that we're budgeting to pay the the next piece is benefits and so what I wanted to do and why that says the benefits again the the blue row is not counted into the the bottom so that it still ties to our total expense numbers but it's just illustrating the fact that one I take out that 147 that's our true cost to other benefits

030that really did increase so you know taxes Health Care HSA payments cash and L payments things like into those um Natures that it really is still increasing so having that 147 because in general all of or is a benefit um is kind of was skewing those it looked like it re was red reducing but actually one of the big factors was that 147 so we take it out it kind of gives a trer picture to the rest of all the benefits that we pay for staff and as you can see down in the other ones they much smaller um varying numbers so then if you go to the next slide um this is how they breaks out and how you guys approve it it is kind of state mandated um that's the separation of um

031kind of function codes um for the reference I in the next slide as if you view these later just for a reference it kind of tells you a little bit more about the breakdown but we see here the same format where we're showing I'm showing dollar differences and percent differences from the original budget to February's Amendment as well as still giving you some um facts to the actuals from last year one of the things that I was trying to fix really quickly when you guys I I didn't realize we were was going first is those percentages on the bottom you in in the document that you have in your packet that that's the true document there are it picked up some numbers as the fund balance as the bottom it is a not a not

032is saying it's 5.2 and 3.4 that was just solely a type of when I snipp ited from uh Excel so I will refresh that and resend with correct numbers at the bottom um for this but the um but the numbers for the total expenditures is correct on here so you see some some movements kind of all throughout here the made of lots of little different things so as we saw before from the previous slide a lot of it though goes to Staffing with Staffing our salaries Plus benefits is you know 86 roughly 86% of our budget so that's what a lot of these are made up of um and then there's a lot of different moves that happen um a technology position kind of move to instructional technology that kind of shifts where that's located

033even though the position didn't necessarily be an increase it shifted from one area to another uh there's um different changes that we've made Staffing wise for special ed we are increased um pair of professionals we are increased some um psych positions that we had El Staffing whether it be positions and some hours um as well as health care um the contribution and covered employees um changing and when I say Healthcare I mean also the actual Health Care payments cash and Loom payments and HSA contributions I kind of lump those all together in the health um bucket sort of thing with we we have Grant changes a lot of the stuff when you see instructional staff services line item that includes a lot of things that are coming through through grants so we have 35j um

034in instructional um or literacy grants with 35g um for getting Michigan getting kids back on track a lot of those are in that that section as well as mental health coaches so we increase with that bigger pot that we are using this year that increased a position there um so there's a lot of moving moving parts to that but we did you know it's not surprising added needs kind of comes in a lot of special ad um like PA professionals and we're seeing fully staffed increases than we were through through the last couple of years in those categories seen by also the revenue on the flip side for our special ed um costs so that is it the next slide is just for reference um for future so kind of give some definitions on there

035a slide that I I shareed other times so any questions that was a lot of information the board yes it is very unique time and it's also going to continue to change so it's hard because in general our pension systems TI to legislation which also just it's a lot of um moving Parts a lot of details so I apologize right uh Brad has a question I have a question and then I have a a comment the com I'll make the comment first um you should know that obviously this has our atttention and um if you're on the finance team I think I could say that this is going to go firmly on our agenda for the 11th of March for us to do a little bit more of like a a deeper dive we want

036to look at where things are and what's coming in and all that kind of thing so I would imagine that on the 11th we will give some more dedicated um we like to look at more the details right in finance and then we'll report out to you guys about anything we thought that was interesting there um the one thing I want to ask about was PA act 120 and Pa Act 27 so I just want to assure so if I'm reading this correctly right 3% is going back to our employees you said this Friday a portion of it is we receiving um a portion of that money in our state aid it started in February so last week we received money for that and then yes the portion that we have is going out to

037pay paychecks there and then depending on the legislation is kind of having a temporary they might do a fix which will adjust maybe timing sort of thing of how the rest of money as we get it we will continue to give it to employees that's fair Y and then um the healthc care 3% we're just not collecting that whatsoever anymore no that is what that 3% that you talked about right now right now I'm receiving the revenue that goes right back to the employees then it will stop in October of 2025 it will just no longer be deducted from employees so we're in this medium time this year the intent of the language is to fully everything that comes out of employees paychecks from October to right um September is intent of the language right

038now our allocation will not cover that amount of time but I do think that the legislation is the intent was there so I think they have a fix that has not passed so it's not like to us yet but it in it sounds like that is both parties are at the table trying to fix the get back to the intent sounds like a phase out almost to me so yeah okay it can't make it easy you know okay yeah definitely is and I I appreciate your explanation that some plans used it and some didn't and that's correct it is not all employees I think approximately 52% of employees have the 3% Healthcare deduction in Pro will we'll see any change whatsoever anyone else the rest of the table jennif um Miranda my first question was

039is there a particular reason this is on our agenda tonight for approval for the um budget amendment before it goes to the finance committee is there a deadline that we need to file this with the state or you know in general we try to do as early as possible when we get count kind of in and then we see our state aid kind of update with some more things so in general no there's no requirement to in general we're supposed to if your things change significantly you're supposed to come to the board and make changement changes but it's also like we'll be back in you know May and June starting already budget amendments at year end so nope we don't necessarily have to do it other than there's a lot of changes that are reflected

040in Staffing things that are June I mean most of the time I'd like to do it before kind of winter break but sometimes a delay in some of the information that kind of comes in in state aid we continue to get new line items and so it kind of makes a a clearer picture and then also we have in December we have opened enrollment for January so I like to see those January numbers come in for Staffing kind of things that helps that that piece of that estimation um because the fun was maybe it's my eyesight the font's really hard to read on some of the presentations and a lot of times it wasn't intended to read it trying to get the global picture right but a lot of times we'll get decks ahead of

041time and Steve's weekly update that we can have a little bit more time to digest and I would appreciate us considering getting a copy of this to look into um I totally agree with um Brad a deeper dive we used to in finance committee a long time ago um Tim you might have been at it at the time we used to request deeper Dives on particular line items um I'd like to see information on the 1.2 with regards to additional needs if you can back up um a slide or two um oh there you go oh go forward one um so added needs right there second line item and the other one I'd like to see a deeper dive on is instructional services at 630k 603 I'm sorry so add needs a special ed and

042some like other um interventions thank you just because of the the the offset there correct those grants fall into the into the instructional staff point which we can follow up on on a future date normally in this time of year I bring the amendment and there is no slide deck and slideshow I usually do it just for the June one that we doing the amended one we just do a much shorter abbreviated version it felt like there were a lot of legislative changes and kind of um moving Parts this year so I felt like it it was more needed and so that's kind of a little bit more more why having You're great and I totally appreciate all of this extra detail I was just I would like to be considerate of our uh Finance

043team committee members uh and get their thoughts and do their work um so if if it isn't impeding the business of the district I'd like us to consider having it go to finance and then come on the agenda for vote because I would like to spend time with that and hear their thoughts as well yeah so a couple things one in response to Jennifer we did discuss this a little bit in the last board meeting so we kind of kind we had an idea where things were going we didn't look at it like this but you kind of gave us the broad view of what where things were going so we had a we had a heads up um couple things uh the ACT 18 increase that was pretty significant does that get us to

044roughly 100% funding for special ed with you know it's complex in the in the concept of what comes in and what time and year like I said we in this year we are getting the payment for they're calculating it off for prior years but in Prior years we get a start to that funding as well as the state uses our 496 from prior years to fund Us in this year so it's it's not as easy as that those exact ones in this year um in general do in our budget and what I show for special ed and what I show for there it's it's close it's not exact um there's there's a it's kind of like a lag since we do get the lag is there a possibility we could look back and see okay

045this is what we spent last year I know some of that Revenue didn't come in until this year I just just like to know if we're roughly at 100% M and there's also look at the ISD budget and stuff like that y I'd have to do a much deeper dive because it is a lot more detailed to say exactly what percent because I'd have to go forward forwards and backwards to to calculate an exact amount um to to know an exact percent for you okay and then the other thing is is um it seems like at the state level the money goes into a mixing bowl they mix it up and they pull it out and they say oh let's throw it here here and here and all this 147 c a g all that

046stuff is just kind of a convoluted mess and thank you for keeping good tabs of it because that's what got Ann Arbor in so much trouble for not keeping good tabs on it um but uh but um Brad mentioned and I was going to ask to that 3% so we have received some of the 3% correct so it comes in our state aid right now and the set General uh FL state aid comes you know in in one 11th increments um there are some things that go in quarterly increments that come through there so though they have slated and wrote in a total year allocation yes we only got part of that in currently so we are under the premise of as we get the money in it'll go back out go back out okay

047perfect thanks so if I could clarify Vice President stean are you asking to table this motion until March 11th I didn't make the official request but I'd like to hear what my colleagues on the board think so you vice president St would like to engage in the discussion of a non yet motion well I mean the reality I just I I'm just putting it out there and I would I would like to hear what everyone thinks but um I I think as long as we have Miranda's expertise and opinion that it doesn't impede the you know the the work of the district and I'm perfectly like we can approve it whenever you guys want yeah it just it just Contin to to get farther into the year and it gets just po problematic on the

048next kind of budget it doesn't impede anything nothing will not go out in this Cor in the next two weeks it won't exactly perfect yep but it also like I'm not redoing the numbers that I will come with the same present or the same numbers you know there just so understood underst I mean unless you find better numbers than guess I guess what I would coming to 12,000 in in the hole is not bad right like I guess what would say is that like I don't anticipate finding anything alarming here but if we did find something alarming there's no reason why either we couldn't present that as information to us or we couldn't do additional amendments or um you know what I'm saying so I guess I would say that like because this isn't our

049final budget I don't see a whole lot of danger in just allowing us to continue our work going forward you would like you would like Miranda to have the presentation available for example in for my Friday memo so you can see it and have some time to review it and then ask follow-up questions at the March 11th meeting and then approve it yes exactly and have it go to finance committee you have a meeting on the 11th we do you guys will have the presentation in your hands this evening I just needed to fix the one thing and get a chance to send it and and I want to I want to stand still by Brad's comment because I I expect that we'll find all all sorts of things here in order but but to

050to see this for the first time and to just get the summary in email it's $77 million and I need to be a good Steward so I would just request a little extra time so Brad and Jason are willing to withdraw your motion and yeah I'll make it on the 11th probably okay so we have a new motion to uh to uh like recommended motion to table this report and adoption until March 11th do I I have someone making that motion so I'll make I'll make the motion then yes there anyone seconding that fine yeah we'll do our work second gerby gerby thank you so all in favor then please say I I I all right 60 thank you very much brand oh you may not we may need you the next item is the

051next the is the motion to adopt the resolution authorizing the issuance of 2025 School building and site Bond Series 2 not to exceed 60 million as prepared by trun law firm and submitted by uh assistant superintendent Oley Brad gerby motioned and Darcy Berwick seconded is there anything we need to know nope this is just issues the cach of series two and so it's uh one of the three series we did series one in 2025 or we're doing this one in 25 the other one was in 2023 that we did um it kind of slated just in the schedule of of timing for cash flow great no questions nope so all in favor please say I I I all right 60 thank you very much uh Miranda I'd like to entertain a motion to approve the

052minutes of the February 11th 2025 closed session of the board of education for the purposes to consider a confidential attorney client privilege communication pursuant to section 8h of the open meetings act and that motion has been made by um I can make it stubb and seconded by how about our trusty secretary who made the minutes no conflict there thank you so you AP Government folks who are out there this is the time where we look at the closed session meetings that the closed session is not open to the public so neither are the minutes so we Qui L read them make our vote and then carry on with the meeting that's why there's going to be a we're not going to say anything though but thank you I appreciate you putting your fingers in your

053ears have they all been returned to secretary Burwick that yeah okay all in favor please say I I I thank you very much opposed hearing none 60 thank you so much uh I'd like to entertain a motion that oh this is me I'd like to entertain a motion that the Board of Education designate the superintendent as its representative in determining the definition of assault as submitted by me and I've got some pieces of paper for you uh I didn't know when these were could you oops uh pass those along please and uh first of all do we have a motion uh so moves debbon and support Second has the two JS thank you very much okay so in effect I for given you paper it's it's easier I was just going to read this but

054having it written out is easier according to the Sea the board is the determining factor of defi defining what assault is we're talking about students assaulting students assault right students assaulting teachers staff if there's a disagreement between staff and the administration the board shall be the deciding vote however the uh if the board chooses to formally designate the superintendent as its representative for this purpose it can do so we haven't done so so at this time it's never come up before uh so superintendent lch has been working with the understanding that he's our designate for all procedural matters and negotiation matters like this and today though he's asking the trustees at the table to formally designate the superintendent as the board's representative for this purpose and the definition they're using is a Jennifer Starin at

055sh law basically said the Michigan compiled law and I won't read all the numbers we're talking about physical assault against an employee volunteer or contractor inys physical assault means intentionally causing or attempting to cause physical harm to another uh that's pretty well all I know about it but if you have questions or discussion points uh basically rather than every time an assault comes up and and the question arises as to whether it's intentional or not or if it's assault or not rather than call the board together for a special meeting we'll just designate our superintendent as we' designate so many other things to him for this particular issue I think I've understood that correctly if I'm wrong let me know any questions queries quibbles Dary uh I guess I just wanted a little bit more

056context is this in regards to handbooks contracts um policy where where is this impactful yeah this is in response to the grievance that we've been dealing with for a little while now um before you were on the board of Dary we had a meeting with the sea um in this room to discuss um that grievance which some some of that was associated with um students students assaulting staff members so as a result of that we have uh we I along with our administrative team have determined that um assault is this intentional um you know hurting a teacher or or a staff member as there are uh a number of times that there are um physical interactions most of the time that is occurring with our students um our special needs students and as a result

057of that I felt like it was important to define the definition of assault with the intention part around it as suggested by our attorney and um as a result of that the sea requested that you make me the person that can make that decision and ultimately that's that's where we are right now in addition um as you note in the Friday memos I am now and have been for the last couple months listing any time there is a physical issue with um a staff member and we're putting those in the memos so that you are always seeing when that's happening now I'm not defining if they're intentional or not but for this particular grievance to resolve it the sca is requested that that you make me uh the decision maker for what the definition of

058assault is or you define it so the context really is in regards to contract negotiations this definition isn't then applicable it's agree it's not the contract negotiations I'm sorry AP grievance that was associated with this particular issue but aren't the list of grievances sort of aren't there different levels yes and the and the levels came where they tried to get resolved and it wasn't resolved so then it went to the board and then it went back to the superintendent which was where it lies right now so this is a oneoff or this is for every situation moving forward it's well it's for every situation moving forward if there is a student assault and then I had to or the you know next superintendent has to Define was their intention that happened there or was that

059a manifestation of the student's disability so I do believe it's important that that this is the definition moving forward okay so I was glad to hear oh sorry so the sea did ask you to bring this to us y okay yep did so you're telling me like this definition down here that says physical assault means intentionally causing or attempting to cause physical harm to another through force or violence has been collaboratively defined between you and on the sea not necessarily I'm saying that we that ultimately when there is disagreement which there has been that the superintendent or the Board needs to decide and therefore I feel like this is the appropriate definition and sought legal guidance to determine that as well so how does that solve the grievance if the if as a the the

060grievance has basically been resolved but one of the hang one of the last components of it was to get the board to approve me as the decision maker for this definition and then the and then the grievance is inherently already resolved but this definition then is agreeable to both parties it's agreeable that this was the approach that needed to happen for um us to move forward with the grievance but you're giving us a definition at the very bottom that comes from J for Starin and from this but so I guess I'm asking again definitively are you in agreement with them because if we allow you to Define it and you define it as this and then I I'd want to know that like they were kosher with it okay there I would not say that

061I feel I don't want to speak for the sea but they did not want the term intentional in there and I felt like that was important because we have so many um times most of the time that a lot of this is happening because of the manifestation of a student's disability so this is not in concurrence with their definition but they're not they're not they're recognizing that they're not in charge so to speak of defining assault you as the board are or I am as their design okay is I'll let you guys ask questions I want think about this for a moment is is this specifically toward St or is this students included uh it's the the the Crux of the grievance was about staff members getting injured well but I mean going forward defining

062it this way are we only defining it or only appointing you to Define it when there's an assault to a staff member or is it this particular one is the Jennifer Starland um makes note as Michael pointed out physical assult against an employee volunt contractor right so my my question would be if we're including the word intentional which which is I pulled up MCL and it that is the the verbatim reading of the law but if we're including intentional and the student was assaulting another student and inadvertently caused harm to a staff member are we calling that intentional toward the staff member or intentional toward the student because I think think that would be an important distinction um I mean in this particular case we are truly just talking about if if well so yeah

063if a student I guess the hypothetical situation a student is attempting to assault another student then inadvertently it's a staff member we would still go back to say was this a manifestation of the students disability did they intend to do that to the student Andor the staff member and then we would apply this definition it's not meant to be applied with like student to student though in in this context so the I will say the grievance has been signed off on yeah it it's just this was one final area that the sea requested us to address either you as a board Define it or I do as your design so it's Jennifer Brad Jennifer Tim and and Darcy sorry so I was in this grievance meeting with Michael and Jenny just so I can I

064can provide a little lens this was an open meeting so I'm not discussing anything that that shouldn't be discussed here at the table um I also see the sea in the back of the room nodding their head in disagreement so I just want to acknowledge that um I I remember this conversation and I just want us to be careful with this and I do not have a copy of the grievance folder with me that was presented that evening um happy to bring it back another time um for anyone who who who would like to look at that but I remember going through the pages to read some of the documents that were provided to us by the Sea and there were several Pages talking about the design of the board and I specifically asked about

065that in the meeting and said we do not have a design the board is the board however the president speaks for the board and I kind of quoted some policy and procedure that we have um so I want us to be very careful in in um having anyone not just Steve not just the superintendent um act on behalf of the board and I would call our attention to this and Michael just did tell me um he wrote this up it was not in our packet so I would have flagged this ahead of time had I read this ahead of time the fourth paragraph yeah the fourth paragraph says superintendent latch has been working with the understanding that he is our design for all procedural matters like this so I I I Now understand where some

066of that is coming from and the grievance binder um however I do not feel comfortable with having any staff member or other trustee be a design on behalf of the board in all procedural matters I think the board is the board of seven at the table um I personally um and I think Michael would agree with me and I I I know I heard Jenny say this um we all had a good feeling at after that meeting we felt like we we it was very respectful there were there were some disagreements for sure um but I I felt like it worked out very well to have um our committee there and to help facilitate and ask questions as a um a third party and I would like to see us preserve that right in the

067future fine Tim Dary uh yeah no apologies if I if I don't have all the background if I don't have all the background information is I would guess I'm just requesting a little bit more time to so that I'm more familiar with the context that's given that's just my preference BR I guess I'm curious because I'm I'm I my I like what Jennifer is saying here about the board speaks for the board and and all of that and that we want to make a definition on phys on physical assault here but I would like us to allow for some comment on this and some some things in that regard so I am wondering if this would be agreeable we could refer this to policy and then policy could take a look at this under either

068definitions or put it into our policy and then they can have like kind of the conversation about where they would want this to go and now they could talk to students they could talk to staff they could talk to community members they could talk to all these people who might want to have some input with us and build like because the board at some level we speak on behalf of the community too right so I guess that's what I would like to that's how I would see as a prefer clarification question because what we're talking about here is not a policy it's a little bit more grievance committee than policy committee because it's specifically with regard to partnership with our Union um this particular Union so I like your idea to like kind of review

069it in a different way it might fall into grievance versus um I'm fine with that I just like the idea of us getting a little more information a little more background a little more comment and then having to move on it you guys can say student rep Thomas I had a question of clarification I think it's been said a couple times um so I'm a little confused um would this mean that you would be the the the soul designator determining whether it's the technical definition of assault or whether it's a a manifestation of a student's disability no there it would be the the definition of assault that what happens with u manifestation of of a student's disability would be that a team gets together to determine if they feel that it was a manifestation of

070of students disability for example if they got together the IEP team would get together and they would discuss what happened and then they'd look at the students um disability within the IEP or potentially 504 and then they would say okay did this intentionally happen or was this um part of the students uh you know the the way they operate on a daily basis part of their behavior plan that type of thing so no it wouldn't be me determining if it was a manifestation dis of a disability it's it's instead saying that I believe we should take the MCL definition means this is the legislative definition from um you know the the the our legal team rep re recommends we should use this definition and I agree with that okay that was my question because I

071wasn't sure whether um there would be a team determining whether whether that was just a niche that would involve different procedures it would be a team okay thank you all right I so real quick um so I did look back and it is you know be physical assault means intentionally causing or attempting to cause physical harm to another through force or violence I struggle with the word intentional because I think that is somewhat subjective and um that is my that's my hang up I I see it's in this and so that's why you came up with it or that's why they came up with it but um I don't know I I I think in life I I just think it's too subjective I guess so that's my my hangup I don't know hey welcome

072to the world of the law right um yeah I I would uh at this point since um I asked the two JS if you would be comfortable T this is a hot mic tabling this until uh the next meeting well we gather more information I did not expect there to be this much confusion but then it turns out the question is are we talking about a simple uh designation of the superintendent to deal with this sort of thing is is part of the in all times when it comes up or are we talking about a new defin or clearer definition of the language of what is assault and that's unclear to me so uh and unless you have a real easy answer right now I I'd like to table this until the next meeting we

073get more information and uh perhaps also reach out to the uh you need to get some additional thank you just to confirm yes motion withdraw okay okay yeah so my thing is I do feel that we should as a board eventually designate superintendent lch I'm more hung up on the wording myself than than than who is than giving superintendent lch The Authority all right well my concern was that we'd be coming back every time there'd be an issue of assault and I think it should just we should be designating certain work and activities to the superintendent along with the hundreds and hundreds of other things we designate to or have him as our design for the board so but one thing I do have a question about though so if we go back to the

074grievance committee and work through this more um what more information do we need like bring in Jennifer Starling from TR to sort of tell us why she believes we should use that definition and then the sea to say why we should not that that's that is not by the way that is not what they were asking to have happen tonight that they were asking for the board to say that I am the design to Define this language they weren't asking for you to come back and debate the language and then kick it back to the grievance committee however you you obviously do what you feel is best that's not what was asked to resolve the grievance to resolve the grievance what was asked was for me to come back tonight and state what the what

075the definition is of physical assault and then for you to either agree that you're defining it that way or to allow me Define to Define it I'm just pointing that out so it's up to you I'm just not sure there's congruence on I would agree so to to reply to Steve's question what what else would you need um I Heard Darcy when she was saying a little bit more time um I think I think we said um we'd like to hear what the sea says if if there is congruence to Brad's Point um and it would be helpful to this is not what I thought was on the agenda so it would be helpful just in the future to have kind of the like when we have a policy change to have the um uh

076the justif right but in a similar process to have kind of the the deeper clarification and information around it ahead of time right just to clarify it's not a policy change it's a request from what I understand on the part of the sea to the board made through the superintendent right there and go ahead no go I want to hear you out I'm mostly done anyway thanks is there a okay deadline that we need to be aware of but I just I want to make sure that like so if it was given into was ahead of time I could have asked some of these questions and I could have done some of this preparation we probably do pass it tonight right now so like that's where I would say like having it ahead of time

077would have been beneficial just so we can quote unquote do our homework uh I I didn't print this up ahead of time as you see it was the last minute and the other thing is that it was also what I thought was going to be a very short putt but that's fine um Jason oh sorry uh Darcy had her hand up first and Jason oh I I just if there's a deadline that we need to be aware of I mean okay the grievance is technically resolved so I think what you're saying is let's open it back up and talk about it further because it's not I mean they were asking for the definition to be determined tonight by either you or me okay and then the grievance is over but all we're doing we're not

078adjusting policy we're not creating new policy we're not amending policy we're simp being asked to either appoint you to use the Michigan compiled law designation for what physical assault is or us to adopt MCL that's because we're not going to rewrite law because if we would have to change our school policy for that but I hear I do hear people saying they don't necessarily agree with this definition and then therefore I don't either however agreeing with an or not agreeing with it it is the law therefore I okay I I understand more clearly now I don't believe any further deliberation would change what we have to do but I I'm open to I don't either but we've been asked to table it to two two weeks from now Brad did you have something to add

079sure I would I I I hear what you're saying on that because mcl1 uh 75.8 one does Define assault as intentional and illegal act that causes another person to reasonably fear immediate battery is what I'm reading like from the law and there's a lot of other words and a lot of other things but but like that that word is a portion of it I guess I just would like to do more homework on this I'm probably going to vote on it and be like yeah whatever but I just I I'm feeling really awkward about it right now I I I don't want to keep beating the dead horse it this is 1311 is specifically talking about a school setting and specifically talking about staff and I think that is why it's being called into question

080you said 1311 1311 yeah yeah no it is and I just read it and it's I don't like it I I don't either but but I disagreeing with the law means we we have to vote in people to change the law but it is the law and it is specifically in 1311 talking about school setting and talking about staff contractors vendors Etc specifically in that sense is the word intentionally in here yes where can you point it out I have 1311 up it is 1311 12b physical assault means intentionally causing or attempting to cause physical harm to another through force or violence it it it is that I mean they're asking us for something very basic now now that I have clarity as to what is being asked of us it's simply adopt it's simply

081agreeing that we're agreeing with the law I just I would also request more time I mean I'm cognizant of several things going on in our boardroom on the side of the room on the back side of the room so there's more more to this that I would like more time on to Echo what has been said for we've had we've had two board members talk discuss this if this is not going to affect the outcome of the grievance then let's if it's not going to if what we're about to talk about isn't going to set us back a month come up by all means and clarify things for us please Brandon and Carol holding hands thank you we've been working very closely on this together it's not the interpretation of the law it is the

082the interpretation of law it's not the definition it's the interpretation so we are okay with that definition the question is who gets to interpret that word intentional that has been the source of our grievance because there's been a number of issues where we have disagreed with that interpretation of intentionality we would love a process where it could be a group collaborative effort to determine these things we feel like we have been left out of that so my I'm the grievance shair I I wrote the grievance um the grievance request wasn't or the one that Steve specifically brought to you tonight wasn't will you change this definition of assault that's not our request it is who is determining that because we were told at the grievance meeting as trustee stean mentioned that it was Dr lch

083and per Lancing vers Lancing Board of Ed case law it is the board unless you guys designate designate we're simply asking to follow case law okay go ahead goad just teasing go ahead um no that that is what it's coming down to and there are daily things that Dr lot or any superintendent has to make decisions on and we're we're really working hard at resolving this some of that at in some a lot of what we have to follow is the law So based on mde we have to I we have to look at seven factors when we're disciplining kids we also have to look at Mars and idea so it's very layered and complicated and it's happening in real time having someone local and in in place to be able to help sort that

084out it's not saying we wouldn't have those conversations together but to help sort that out would benefit and keep things I don't think you want us to stop our jobs to call a board the board every time we have to make a decision around this and that's where we've been stuck so yeah yeah we just want to be included yes in the process and we feel like the voice has been left out a little bit and we're working on including that correct can I ask a question though isn't that part of the grievance procedure of the contract or wouldn't that be a definition that or something that could be a portion of that yeah we we're we've taken lots of really positive steps forward and this is continued work even though we have agreed to

085move forward from the grievance there's lots of work that we're still planning together to make sure that we get this in a good place for everybody our staff our kids our administrators Etc so we're we're committed to working together thank you can I just summarize that basically what Brandon both Brandon and Carol are saying is they're not asking you to change the definition they're simply asking you to make me the designate and then they're working on having more or less um more let's just say sea representation at the table when you're determining if it's an intentionality type of thing is what I that's not what we were asking that's what we were asking to be decided it it is who interprets the law you or the board okay so yes would you like to interpret

086it or would you like me to is it interpreting the law or interpreting the intentionality that's two different things that's very different things what's been the Crux of most of our issues is the intentionality piece okay okay so here's how here was how I would inter if I if I need to be called to determine if it's intentional I'm going to go back to what Tommy was asking well which team is going to help determine whether it was intentional or not and then after after they after they decide then I would say okay this team believes it's intentional I'd say yes it is this team says it's a manifestation of their disability I would say it's not intentional that's how I would approach that now if it's if it's a student that doesn't have special

087needs it's not in their I AP then I would say it's intentional I mean that's how that's how I would handle it if if called upon so you should never testify in front of Senate so I appreciate you coming up and and thanks thank you um that was because I guess my my big part of this was the intentionality and being subjective and I think it's not about whether we give it to you or we do it I want to give it to you and and so I'm good with that uh and I think just the collaboration like you said with people to figure out the intentionality I think that would be that'd be okay by me do you have more to add Brad thought thought I saw your hand up are you okay I'm

088really in thought right now to be honest with you I'm still kind of in a pickle on this sorry I couldn't I couldn't hear what you said I said I'm still in a pickle on this and if I had to vote on it right now I really am unknown I'll be bluntly honest I I think I think there was a great deal of clarification there and I agree with Dr L's approach um I I'll I'll defer to president McBay well having heard from our reps and from Carol diglio uh about the intent of this uh I'd like to I'd like to withdraw my tabling and ask is there anyone who would uh stand by this motion that we designate superintendent to uh Define assault Michael I think the motion if you wanted to move forward

089would need to be Rewritten because I think we're talking about about defining intentionality not defining assault because that's defined by law is that correct none of the above no um I guess I I guess I am asking for more time if that's possible I agree with DAR I'm just not I'm not confident in my complete understanding of the situation to move forward tonight and and if we move forward we move forward but I'm just asking for more time all right so uh let's go back to the if there's not enough people to uh make the motion and if we don't get enough votes then we table this to the the next meeting pending more information well what are my options if I'm like not prepared to vote on like I guess I've never been in

090this position where I couldn't like didn't know well let's make it real I allow to abstain nope let's make it real so because that would be that would be stepping away from your duties as well I understand that I just want to know what my options are here I'm going to make it I'd like to make it five years but I'm still okay thanks sorry for interrupting I'd like to make it really simple uh i' I'd like to table this for two weeks from now March 11th uh to to bring it to the table this was the language Jennifer that was provided to me by the Sea and Steve in the motion just so you know so uh do I have a motion to table this that's Darcy Berwick I'll second Jennifer St we've had

091plenty of discussion all in favor say I hi all right here we go um that's 51 by the way I'm I was prepared to vote on that so that I'm the one against I'd like to entertain a motion to uh approve the award payment of 2,983 5315 to Barton Mal mow who I think are in the audience tonight y uh for the oversight and management of Selene bid pack BP t3s submitted by Jay Grossman director of Technology this includes contracts for standardization of classroom AV to take place at Seline High School Seline Middle School Heritage and Liberty it also includes CA uh data cabling to go along with these classrooms plus cabling for the Middle School Renovations and New Liberty wreck complex additionally included our av access controls and video surveillance for the Middle School

092Renovations that's quite a hefty motion but uh do I have a motion from anyone anyone in the audio some was that awesome thank bwick is seconding so anything you can tell us about this that hasn't been said already there's a lot um so first off thank you all very much for uh entertaining it sorry if I'm under the weather a little bit that's why I'm wearing a mask um this is a large project that's going to take place over the next two summers uh essentially the classroom standardization is a continuation of what we passed this time last year we'll be carrying that over from uh to complete the high school middle school Liberty and Heritage with replacement of projectors additional displays Wireless uh display capabilities cabling to go with all that um also in this

093is the renovations to the Middle School uh the AV access control video surveillance that'll be going in place for the new additions for senior center uh cosmetology Robotics and in addition once construction starts um doing the fiber and access control video surveillance for the Liberty rexs complex so tried to bundle it all into one package take care of it all at once which is why it's such a large number at this time but hopefully this will take us through the next two summers so that once all the construction is complete everything is ready to go any questions say anything one question from Brad ask me uh or ask me um where is this with regards to what we budgeted for the project and then um the second thing is These funds are designated from where

094good question so as far as um with the regards to the budget it's actually going to end up being under budget we're just reviewing numbers on that so everything is coming under what we originally applied for in the 2022 bond which is where the fund is going to be coming from so this is from the 2022 Bond correct and from so it's from series one yes I don't know if it will bleed into series two or not but um I believe it is all part of series it's all okay but it's bond funds I this isn't general fund some other fund it's Bond dollars than all Bond dollars and and you've always been good yes sir um I didn't see a a breakdown from the responses uh for the selected contractors but I did see

095that Sentinel uh Technologies was selected for video surveillance do you know what equipment they'll be using verata to keep it consistent with what's throughout the district okay thank you well thank you uh all in favor please say I hi oppose hi no opposition thank you very much I'd like to entertain a motion to approve the award payment of $11,700 to anop tsg for the purchase of classroom document cameras to be installed this summer at the high school the Middle School Heritage and Liberty in conjunction with the standardization project as submitted by Grossman director of Technology Kirby kby second ties sorry this will go in conjunction as said it's just um it's also bond funds again but instead of it being managed through Bart M we're just taking this on ourselves I wanted to order this

096at the same time so with Supply chains and possible tariffs that we can get them all in here it's going to go with the same classrooms um we're replacing their document cameras to be the same as what's in the three elementary schools super no discussion no questions you he answers your question great all in favor please say I I There You Go sir sir thank you so much appreciate your time like to entertain a motion to approve the Seline High School Furnishing recommendations as provided by King Scott Associates using pre-existing big contracts totaling 1, 14659 3.92 submitted by executive directors Rex Clary and Cara d us individual bendor payments will go to the following Great Lakes Furniture Supply $562 375 567,000 3749 NBS commercial Interiors $ 525,600 180 DL $164,700 7784 interior office St [Music]

09798556 42 School specialty $948 neis $7,250 and a 6% contingency fee of 82,9 69 that's the hardest thing I've had to do all year thank you thank you very much I only missed one number thank you any uh comments from Rex and Cara um so moved oh sorry yes thank you that's Tim second it goad thank you we don't have any comments necessarily we appreciated the partnership with king Scott designers and the high school teachers and administrators as a part of the um you know review of what is existing furniture in the building and then The Replacements that we're planning uh there's a lot of collaboration and it's a really big space so we were able to accomplish a lot so we're happy to answer any questions I was at the high school for one

098of the shark tanks the other day and I think I sat in some of the same chairs that we're bidding on tonight so this is similar similar equipment that we already have in the buildings correct we've taken what we've did at the high the middle school as well as the K5 buildings we're taking that up to the high school the high school is the last building that we oh I see it's 22 years old now so those were well-worn chairs that we were sitting in okay thank you so mine's not really a question maybe it a little bit of a question but so with all this furniture I mean there's a lot um what are we doing with all the old stuff like where does that all go I just you know I I hear

099my daughter she's in a placement and uh you know they don't they don't have nice facilities and all the stuff they aren't as blessed to have a community supporting us like Selen is and so it's like is our furniture good enough that it can go somewhere else to be helpful or useful I don't know um so we just signed a contract with Bron and Helmer we do have an auction scheduled for mid to late June of this year um so they will auction off classrooms or um I don't know what they call them um I don't know how they refer to them as auctioneers but what' you say yeah yeah um and they'll they've already we've already Lo we're already listed on their website um they'll be do some woodworking equipment there'll be some Lumber

100there'll be some grounds equipment um stuff that we trucks that we retired old school buses as well if we don't sell them for scrap we'll sell them into this auction um so that's our first swing at getting rid of of of getting a cash flow back for the for the existing furniture the second will be we can donate uh we can donate use uh we pay for labor and ship shipping but it can be donated to other countries other people um and there is a service that we that way I've spoken to in regards to that as well I just would think there's other communities around here that could could use it and so you know if we're going to get Pennies on the dollar or if it can really you know boost the morale

101of these other schools uh might be helpful just to give it to somebody what we're facing is those two person desks um as well as the black chairs which was what was the Staple in the building when it was open in 2004 thanks for the question Tim anyone else no yeah budget and source of funding are we bond funds and we are just just under 1.5 million was the budget so we're right there uh we will be coming back to you with a different budget for the media center not for the media center for the steam center um Furniture uh addition super thank you then with this approval tonight hopefully we'll get it installed the goal is to get installed the week of July 7th when you get into August you know it's you don't

102want to give up your furniture until you have new furniture but yeah we got to make a lot of room for this new furniture so um it's a timing piece in how we do that how we do that dance as we get through the summer um there'll be a lot of moving Parts at the high school so well thank you so moved by Austin seconded by gerby all in favor please say I hi I posos great thank you very much we have one scheduled report from Dr lch I believe he's the superintendent for now thank you everyone uh tonight we're going to talk about uh School of Choice uh but we're going to talk in most of the presentation is about enrollment and before I start I do want um to preface with um something

103that Miranda said um and she said you know there's lots of moving Parts within the budget enrollment and School of Choice are are a big part of that move moving part for our budget or moving parts and so as we think about enrollment over the years we think about what does declining enrollment that exists in most districts in Michigan including ours mean for our budget longer term and what does School of Choice mean as it supplements some of that loss and then ultimately what does all this mean as we try to live in a sustained fund balance of 12 to 15% moving forward not just one time but how do we look forward to two and three and four years to determine that what we'll call flattening of enrollment so we don't have the loss

104in the district anymore and to a point where we would be able to say okay now we're flat with enrollment and now we can better understand our finances in order to maintain that more sustainable fund B number now with that said uh let's begin if we look at that first slide that Ben has uh referred to um and some of this is a repeat of a presentation I gave last year but I feel like it's important context so we we'll do parts of this again and that is the difference between FTE the full-time equivalent and headcount in short FTE is the number used to fund school districts so when we talk about that per pupil allocation that's using um FTE and that full-time students are considered 1.0 but we have many students in various programs

105that count as 0. five or .3 and so that's the FTE component but then it we use headcount to look more at like Trend patterns because even if we have a three of a student we would say that's a 1.0 student it relates to headcount okay so moving forward to the next slide this slide looks at enrollment fall to Spring which always goes down a little bit in the spring you'll see that Trend pattern but really what is important to see here is that we are declining some but the good news that we realized last year was um we had budgeted to be down 110 students but we actually were down 77 so really that's you know a little over three thou $300,000 to the good well that does allow a little more time as

106we continue continue to right siiz the district and so this is what our number is for this fall and that will likely go down slightly in the spring like it does in other years okay as it looks as we talk oh let's go to the next one Ben yeah special programs headcount okay so these are all the programs that we also count some allocation to and I'll just run through them real quick so that's alternative High School young adult program weok which stands for Wasa educational options Consortium that includes things like why High uh Early College Alliance wave yeah it's really those three well and there's also the middle school version of why high or waa anyway so that's what that is there and then that's Progress Park um Early Childhood special education and plus

107um early intervention used to be called early on um and then that stands for was Christian and St Andrews where we get some FTE as a result of servicing some students and some capacity anyway that makes up our special programs headcount now the next slide is an important one and this is these Trend patterns of enrollment so just like Miranda will try to budget what she thinks is going to happen based on all the variables we're also trying to predict what we think is going to happen as we move from year to year the most critical class that we really focus on though is the young fives and kindergarten group because that clearly has a domino effect moving forward um there's a couple Trend patterns uh to notice and that's the far right column that

108says um class cohort change so you'll notice that um you see some positive numbers which is good that means the cohorts growing from year to year like the second graders when they move to third grade they're growing and then you see some areas where they're not but the most important thing to look at here is sort of the the extremes we feel like we're starting to grow more at the lower levels but we're shedding students so to speak at the upper levels So eventually that will start to stabilize as those minus um 21s and minus 14 start to dissipate that is the more of the stabilization point now another thing that happens every year is we get um every year we have a couple hundred students that leave the district and then we have a

109couple hundred coming in for other other reasons um and I'm not talking about School of Choice here I'm just talking about normal attrition and normal gain um I do believe that moving forward we're still going to be considered a destination district one in which people are trying to either move here or get in through School of Choice so we have that certainly going for us but what you are going to see next is sort of that trend of a lot less kids in Michigan okay so to summarize what we what next slide Ben thank you um the enrollment information is on those final numbers l 77 students but because we budgeted for 110 we are seeing some um a a better a better financial situation as a result of that and in looking at that

1109608 current per pupil Foundation rate that means a little over $300,000 to the good okay now declining birth rate Nationwide next slide please Ben thank you uh this was a previous one I had just showing that there's this declining birth rate Nationwide but a more relevant newer slide uh Ben next one please this was from M live the other day and I think it's pretty clear what you see here and that is the last four years we've seen more deaths than births what does that what does that mean there's a lot less kids just in in as a whole so the goal for us clearly is to continue to attract as many families as possible to move here but I would also say still keep our School of Choice um options open so that we

111also can you know continue to realize approximately $700,000 that's built into the structure of our district as a result of those students okay so real quick there's three real significant factors I believe the to enrollment loss the most significant is is um the birth rate less kids uh the second one though is that families really do have a lot more choices um definitely we've seen this trend moving forward and even greater after covid where more families are homeschooling um uh choosing other options choosing some virtual options and so you know we need to be considering that when we put together our bond we really did think about well how do we remain a really competitive School District to make sure we have first class facilities and obviously we want great teachers and administrators to um

112say to our community and beyond that hey Seline is keeping up with the times and exceeding that so we continue to offer our students a um first class education and then another one is the affordability component um with mortgage rates being High um this is also another reason why I would advocate for a school of choice does allow for families to um potentially come to the district that may not be able to afford here uh being here or might not want to live in the district so um that that comes into play okay so we this is I'll be brief on this right sizing the district we talked about this plan over the next I I came here last year and said we're going to need to reduce a million dollars each year for the

113next three years as we try to rightsize the district meaning less FTE for our teaching staff potentially because we have less students we did do that last year we we we um by attrition we reduce some FTE of our teaching staff that initially resulted in a million dollars at savings but we had to hire a few teachers back at the elementary level which is good because there was demand down there it really resulted in about 3/4 of a million dollars in Savings in addition moving forward we have um you know because we have our fund balance in a better structural position now we can now say we're pausing for next year and not needing to do that million dollars in general fund reductions and then we will continue to monitor it all moving forward and

114make a decision in the next in the following uh fiscal year as to whether we're needing to make a move with further reduction based on you know students coming into the district and so forth anyway then the goal is obviously to achieve this revenue and expenditures being equal structurally moving forward uh and then U mirander already spoke about this that that we are realizing about uh a 24% fund balance right now now the last part of the presentation is to talk about School of Choice itself so if you can turn to the handout that I passed out to everybody at the beginning uh these are the tentative um guidelines that I'm setting for them for for School of Choice which I will ask you to um vote on at the next board meeting anyway if

115you look at the first page on this and uh Ben can you click on that part that says guidelines just so we can have that up there so so everybody knows oh well all right you need access okay forget that the board has the um sheet in front of you anyway if you look at the part that says openings available in 2526 we typically and again this year are suggesting that most of our School of Choice intake happens at the kindergarten level and when it says 25 minimum it means if we had 30 people 30 students apply for kindergarten we would after after we do the lottery that would that would um put every student in an order we would take the first 25 students at least when it says minimum we could take more

116now then every other grade level we do the we're doing the minimum opening of one meaning that we we need to take one but we could take more based on trends at that particular grade level um and then there are a few points specifically 9th grade where we do have more kids coming back into high schools and that's because they may have gone to a k through eight school that doesn't have a high school um and then they're coming back in and as a result we want to open more openings at the at the ninth grade level specifically so when it's all said and done this is my recommendations for our uh minimum opening slots for next year and then as it relates to how many students are actually in the district of School of

117Choice we do have a policy that states that we're we're needing to attempt to keep the School of Choice enrollment at roughly 10% we really have done a a reasonably good job of that over the last um five six years if you look at the trend pattern we sometimes are slightly under we are sometimes slightly over but we we're not seeing wild swings where one year we're at 10% and then the next year we're at 18% or or even the other way we're only at 4% so um we are trying to live you know certainly live into that policy and and feel like we've been accomplishing that and so ultimately after we get this process approved um Mandy and Sarah Anne who manage enrollment in the front office they have an interest list that people

118have been signing up for and then right when it gets approved whatever that looks like they send that information out to parents and then there's a window of time where they can apply for it and then we will be doing the lottery which is on May 12th and then after that people have a certain window of time to enroll before they give up their their spot I and I will point this out that historically we have about a 60 to 70% capture rate because there are certainly parents who apply for multiple school districts and they get into multiple school districts and then they um choose to go to one or another so we it's not 100% capture rate and then sometimes people apply and just decide that they don't want to do it after so

119there's a variety of reasons for that uh do people have questions about enrollment or School of Choice I think we briefly touched on it maybe you know um what was the number of School of Choice students leaving and that are in 12th grade right now that it's about 35 or 36 and then what ends up happening though just by attrition we also lose students and the the typical number that we've generally taken for School of Choice each year is between 60 and 70 and It ultimately does sort of still fall into that 10% range yeah I just wanted to say I really appreciated you um reaching back out to me I had a couple of questions after the the weekly um just a c them ahead of time and providing the um presentation ahead of

120time really helps as well um so thank you for doing that um and I recognize that you have always um gone around that 10% guideline over those um those years so thank you very much um we talked a little bit about natural entry points into the school district uh at K at 6 and at 9 and I like seeing at least five um I would like to see a potentially a little bit less in kindergarten and a a little bit more in six or nine um just to consider because because of the reason that um I did flag it for you that typically we don't understand the histories of the children entering in K and sometimes that has led to feedback from staff um with uh extra work around assessing for potential um supports um

121and and so that can throw things um around a little bit in the elementary school so um that was the reason that I wanted to ask about the 25 when we talked we could potentially do a 20 and then a five for sixth grade like we did with 9th yeah yeah so thank you for thank you for considering that and the feedback in the past as well sure does does that mean you're going to modify this for vote next we we could if if if I I people F I mean I look at it from the standpoint of whether we put 20 for kindergarten or and then put five for sixth grade it still ultimately would we we still would likely take more kindergardeners in 20 because historically we have often 50 or 60 kindergarten

122applicants so to speak and then in the other grades we always have a lot less now we do tend to have more in sixth grade and More in ninth grade so it could speak to just bumping you know sixth grade up to five and putting kindergarten at 20 but I think ultimately we probably end up taking more than 20 at the kindergarten level and probably more than five at the sixth grade level even if we had it as a minimum as of one opening so um I don't know that it makes that big of a difference but if but if the board felt like we should list it as 20 and five we I don't have an issue doing that and changing the document I I just had a quick question from something that you

123referenced uh uh from the finance committee meeting but the the minimums when we set it at one it can be three it can be seven it so so changing changing the minimums I don't I don't think is necessary we we could take seven or eight kids at sixth grade without changing the minimum right and most likely we would still take more than 20 more than 25 at kindergarten and I think Brad had a really good point in her Finance meeting that and Jen's point is very valid too because that was a big concern of mine with the assessments but when we get the kids younger they are Seline students and we have a better way of molding those students at a younger level so so I would I would not they become part of the

124culture earlier right exactly and from the beginning but I I um I do like Jen's idea of being able to have some of those natural entry points be able to be increased we could easily change that number but I don't think we need to change the the number as long as we were open to that because the which we would be which we would be right and because if we if we set the number at five we have to take five is that correct that's correct so I don't think would want to hamstring ourselves with that well and I'll even piggyback on that and say if we do change the number then we may end up only taking 20 kindergarteners and now so there's a piece about like I just believe in our staff like

125I said in the quality of our staff and making Hornets Hornets right but the other piece is that there's this um this piece about like when you capture them you keep them too right and so if you capture kids as kindergarteners theoretically they're going to be Hornets for 13 years if if you don't capture them until six you know now you're only capturing for seven years enrollment and you know you capture their FTE for 13 years the whole thing and in general um please help me if I'm wrong on this Steve but in general I believe it is slightly less costly to educate a you know Elementary student so there's benefit in US capturing that student for 13 years is my point rather than just in those secondary years I mean high school programs are

126typically more costly right the programs themselves I'm not saying I'm not passing value I mean my gosh I think kindergarten they learn to read is the most important thing that they can do for my kid like I want to be very clear out loud there right there but I'm just saying from a budget and money standpoint capturing Miss kindergarteners is just better for our financial how about that I say it that way for the Financial Health and wellbeing of our district correct and thank you for providing me the opportunity to make sure that I knew that Elementary is those they have hard job well thank you so it sounds like I would leave those numbers that's what I would prefer okay then we will well thank you unless there's nothing from anyone else everyone so

127we look forward to voting on this next week uh the next meeting without too much discussion thank you we uh we're at a discussion item now uh the ad hoc committee report in the third party athletic review proposals uh I would like to just have a general discussion before we make the motion then you've all by the way it's in your packet page 72 is where it starts um we have three uh candidates at this Bo c yeah candidates for Contra contractors at this point who have put their names forward Scott Jarvis from based in Iowa Scott Robertson based out in the uh left side of the state um Grand Rapids or C I can't remember which and Amy Gibbs who is a lawyer from the Ann Arbor area uh Tim and Lauren and I

128interviewed all of them on video and uh the only one I was not able to I didn't actually seek out references for was Amy Gibbs uh it was just whoops an oversight on my part I got references for the other two who uh since bailed we were unable to get Brian Macy to come and we were unable to get Brian Gordon to come from uh Loi so so just open the floor to a discussion about the relative merits of any of these uh contractors assuming there are some merits I had a follow-up question before before we talked about that so when we talked about this at the table last time there was a conversation about um maybe more uh refinement to the RFP ask and so I was just curious if anyone from the committee

129went back and asked for some um specific because I think it was like a broad brush that you used initially and we had thought potentially we could have more of a cost savings if we narrowed the scope of the project um did that occur and are those numbers reflected here no uh there was a broad brush uh that was already out there for everybody except Amy Gibbs and she saw the same list but for all three candidates and tell correct me if I'm from wrong Tim we all gave them the option of narrowing it down whatever we decide on we're going to we're going to cut the numbers down to what what it is we think we need and what they're able to provide for us so um the answer is no we did not

130go back to the uh to the contractors and say narrow this down for us but we all talked to all of them said and they and they had said we're prepared to narrow it down if you want us to and we'll work with us and to some extent they they added some things so that not two of them look the same either really because some of them added some things that they thought were relevant um on their own too so I I I do think there are some things that we can ask to um be trimmed off I mean I'll just say it I'm I'm more for Scott Robertson that's who I would um and so looking at his you know like the resource allocation and fundraising H I don't really think that's necessary um

131darc did you have some additionals or something I don't know no no no that no I yes I was uh along those veins interested in um I guess trimming some of the proposal down to really addressing what it is that we are looking for for specifically for Seline um just wanted to make sure that we're doing that in the in the proper order if we need to go back and ask um before we commit to hiring someone if they'll actually agree to our terms well yes we yes that would be an important part of this we they're not just going to give them a cart blanch to dive into the district we were going to set terms and parameters and uh the boundaries Brett I'm wondering if we could word the motion then tonight in

132like how we do almost like a superintendent motion lar where we're like we pick a person to look quote unquote enter into negotiations with and then that way you guys can bring back to us like the specifics um and then if if we have a person to Target I think that that would be a good way to go um I will throw out my my thoughts on the three and I would welcome everybody else's thoughts um the first person I will flat out tell you that Scott Jarvis's um proximity to Iowa and some of those kinds of things his cost is significant I was not as comfortable with him as the choice um the third one I was not as comfortable with for a couple of reasons number one um I just didn't see the

133expertise with regards to Athletics and doing that kind of a review or report and so um I was a little bit challenged and I was also a little challenged I'll FL frankly say I think it was $495 per hour and then how many hours are they putting in and that could you know get real costly real fast so uh I will second Tim's you know that the second guy Scott Robertson right is the second person and I think that's the person who I would have the most when I look at his resume I look at I think he would have the most credibility with our coaching staff with our athletic programs our athletic director and our assistant athletic director so I guess I would say number one I wonder if we could do our motion

134that way like enter into negotiations with with something that comes back to us to prove an exact amount and then the second thing is I will throw out there my out of the three preference for the second one I'm just noting your motion change anyone else wants to any so so I guess what I'd like to see happen is maybe a motion made where we authorize uh president McVey to um go back and uh talk to Scott Robertson about their going to enter into a contract with Scott Robertson with the intention of removing certain aspects that we can decide today with the quote not to exceed a dollar amount so that we can get it sign get it approved he can get it signed right away get moving on this so it's not waiting now

135until May 11th then we rehash it again May 11th or March 11th sorry about that it end up in May um but March 11th and then we can get this motion moving forward I agree with Tim I would only edit the word um and and say refine versus remove because it's possible that you would keep everything but just tweak it yeah just a little language um sounds good um I did want to say something about Garvis like it talked about the bespoke nature of the proposal and the customization but there were at least two other school districts thank you I so I'm just I'm just going to acknowledge that and I think my other colleagues found that as well so I was like H um and I had the same hourly rate concerns like I

136would have definitely put a cap on it um and I it it seemed very open-ended so from a financial perspective as I'm doing the memo did you want me to set a limit uh at this point or just to say that we will set a limit of to the amount that we'll spend yeah I think I think we could set the limit what he's currently proposed because if anything we're asking him to do going be asking him to do Less almost all of them said I'll do this and plus expenses so that's where the yeah just 12000 well then um I will say that number is high for me we're spending $9,000 to find a superintendent to lead an entire District it just it feels high and I feel like if we're asking him to

137take some things out which I don't know that we need like operations and Facilities Management or um fundraising um that that cost can come down I would agree with Dary on that I do think it's a little bit High um however as briad pointed out it is a flat fee there is no additional expenses at least that that I can see and I do like his timeline approach because he is spending a lot of time on P um which I think is significantly better than uh Jarvis and the third option which I don't believe had a timeline so I I like that but I do agree with Dary I think it is a little bit high and there's some things in The Proposal that we don't necessarily need so how about we throw out a

138number ready like what I will throw out a number of 10,000 well how about how about we go back to the proposal that I heard and let's let's give a little sway on some negotiation here because it could be that he comes in lower than that um and and like depending on how many things are refined um it's possible he come in and say it's seven or you know whatever I don't want to put a ceiling on something that might not need a ceiling that's fair from a negotiation standpoint that's why I think we could use the not to exceed number that is currently here that's what I was throwing that number out for was not to exceed but we could say what you know that we could authorize um president McBay to to remove

139those two items that have come up a couple times if you guys are comfortable with that and then seeing I mean if it's a reasonable within a contingency of whatever authoriz him just to do it yeah I hear you like you just give a cap of cap of cap it at 12 and hopefully he's going to come in at 10 well I can see I see what you're saying and then that way and I see what I see what you know vice president stean is saying because then also like you know if you're watching our public meeting you might be like he I'm going to ask so so it's not great negotiations I I think about it but um anyway that's my thoughts I'm getting to author the motion is to authorize president McVey to

140enter into negotiations with Scott Robertson is the name we're all hearing I'm hearing a lot of nods across the table to refine the scope of work and set a hard limit should we just not put a number down Casey's watching this now this whole Brave New World we're in now where our contractors are hanging on our every words while yeah I know yeah I mean there's there's 10 bullet points here if we remove two I mean it's I can't really say that that we're taking 20% of the work away and that equates to 20% of the fee because some things are going to be more work than others I'm hearing facilities fundraising where there others well and climate and culture and um protocols and I think climate was what started us off yeah that's why

141I'm saying I I I think that some are more heavy lifts than others so I don't so I'm asking are there any that we low hanging fruit that we could cut from the list at this point operation I think the two um resources allocation and fundraising operations and facility management so I would agree with operations and facility management I think when I thought of the word refinement I was actually thinking about resource allocation and fundraising knowing from a finance perspective the student funds and and how that operates and how many there are and how layered it is and I have had feedback and I don't know if others at the board table have I believe so about the handling of um different clubs or teams fees um I I think that component is an important

142one to have in here I don't know if I'd phrase it right like that but well and I don't know that we need a third party person to look at that for us I I think that's an whole another animal on it so be honest with you it's huge yeah and and I personally I don't think that's what you're paying for anyway you don't want person digging into the minui of Fe and treasurers for each club and Sport and so right so not so just just so everyone understands what I'm saying not an audit of the Student Activities funds nothing related to Miranda um and plant mirands audit nothing like that so operationally how are teams handling their cash flow before it comes into her is what I said I saw I just wanted to

143clarify so it's it's the before that it comes to the school district great so who's making that motion well I'll do it and I what I would just do I I think we just authorize it you to enter into negotiations and I'll put the ceiling at 12 like that's fine because I put the ceiling at what it is and then we're we're targeting to go lower and then I would authorize you to make good judgment on that so I guess if you want to read what you wrote and then just say that I'm adding into it ceiling of 12,000 I just put it in now so yeah I'll second that is there any further discussion about this you sure super this is not as to whether we're gon to have it or not it's to

144who who's going to do it I got it all in favor please say I I and opposed hearing no opposition I will get started on that I've got to deal with South Carolina tomorrow but I will deal with this uh is I will send a note to him right away this evening probably and I'll let you know how it turns consent agenda uh I'm going to skip all the uh bits at the beginning and say I'd like to entertain a motion to uh oh have I skipped oh you know what I wrote so many notes on my agenda that I just wrote right over that so uh Administration board updates thanks thank you uh Brad uh I just have one and just I do want to thank the sea members for airing their concerns tonight

145I realize there's a lot of frustration uh on on their part and and on the district negotiating team as well I do feel like we've done a good job of being very collaborative on the vast majority of the items within the contract and have tenative agreements in many of the areas and and I really do look forward to moving to mediation for the specific specific part of salary as it relates to the contract um and that process will begin on March 10th thank you students I'll start I just want to say good luck to all of the Seline bands that are going to Festival uh I know I'm going tomorrow and then we have some going Friday so uh good luck to them where are you going for that uh Festival it's uh um just

146a almost like a band competition and it's here on our very own campus no it's not Seline um I forget what specific high school it's at but it's it's not here at s we have to travel for it and then I wanted to mention I mentioned this two meetings ago but the Polar Plunge got moved back so there's still time to fundraise because I think it's a really important cause thank you Thursday are we jumping together Kate or you have a you have a team a squad you're a team of three with my friends okay I'm gonna I'm looking for I was trying to find a tutu because everyone else seem to be in two twos so I my I'm a little deaf on that here sorry all right um I I I have a

147couple of comments and here we go so um I want to acknowledge the incredible people that were here tonight and uh I I want you to know that I appreciate your presence and and it was nice to see so many people that have positively um impacted my kids and their experience and their friends experience like I agree with a comment that was made about like you know our our staff and I would go our teachers and everybody you really are the heartbeat of this school district right there's nothing that happens in the school district without you so um there's that and then I want to give my just my general comments on on collective bargaining for a second so um I believe in collective bargaining I believe in negotiations and uh I ultimately believe that

148when we take care of our Educators we take care of our kids and so um I I want to talk about I I feel like our bargaining system has some things in it that like inherently build like mistrust and so I'll explain a little bit um so the union and the in the administration you meet you bargain you do it in good faith I believe that that is happening and that everybody involved with the process is doing that but then when we get updates as a board um we go into close session and we hear from our leadership teams and the people who are present and I will tell you I don't believe that we get ne we don't hear the other side so tonight it was nice to to hear the perspective of the

149the union leaders and the teachers and all that because I think it's important for us to say that like if we don't listen to each other then what it ends up doing is it makes us think are they controlling the narrative in some way that takes out my perspective or takes out the things that are a priority to to me and my family family and that kind of thing so going forward I guess I I have like it's like a dream idea but I guess if we're going to get bargaining updates my dream would be and I believe in financial stewardship and being responsible but if we go into close session I would like us to consider allowing both sides to present their perspectives to us so that we can then make you know we

150can then get a feel for for what's happening quote unquote in totality now I know we're going into mediation and I respect the process and I want to let the process do its work I want to let the people who are doing the process do their work and I trust them to do it but when I am personally updated or involved it would be important to me to have that well-roundedness and furthermore I think that would go a long way for just maintaining and building a collaborative system and morale because that's my biggest concern right is that the people who are in this class tonight know their value and know how important they are and know that you know we want to compensate them and we want them in classrooms and that kind of thing

151and so like I want to talk to them I want to hear from them and it's important to me that I be able to hear both sides and so I guess that's my comment on collective bargaining and my feelings on the whole thing thank you thank you yes um I will say that my family started out as a uh School of Choice family um not being able to afford to move into the district and for the first few years but um we we value the Seline community and I think that um the teachers are the ones who really make it um a welcoming inviting and academically rigorous place to be and a destination District uh and while my kids have graduated I still see teachers coming that uh who taught my children in kindergarten and

152first grade and second grade and um we I think it's important that we keep our teachers here uh I think they're some of the best so I appreciate that they came together today to present to us uh other than that uh just a quick note that policy did end up getting rescheduled and I think Michael we decided March 11th at 5 we did thank you to Brad and his company so we're going to move fin to 4 p.m. so we can do that we had an illness I appreciate that yeah yeah yeah early bird special 4 p.m. folks half off thank you the rumor is that you guys are going to go clubbing after the like between the hour after finance and before the board meeting okay I mean who's surpris the music but uh

153I have five notes uh first of all Dr lotch and I attended a shark tank together a few days ago um and uh Moulder Stewart's class Mrs Moulder Stewart's class I think I got it right Seward yeah fun fun event there are some shark tanks happening next week are you might miss stucky's class uh stooky stooky not Stucky thank you very much change the record uh I'd also thank you Kate yes I was actually nervous about having you know 8 degree weather for the plunge although the you know the amb and temperature is is so cold it makes the thing feel like a sauna or a hot tub when you get out I was I was really worried so I'm glad it's going to be about what 40ish degrees on Thursday I'm looking forward to

154the plunge I'm also looking forward to seeing Mama Mia uh on Friday or Saturday and uh and also to remind everybody in the community about the Jay Bennett experience is coming to town he's looking for insights from everybody in the community for uh what we're looking for in a super their next superintendent uh February 26 he's going to be has a number of stops and please check your emails March 5th and March 11th and uh finally uh I was up in Lancing recently and talking with about a number of bills that are out and here we are at the tail end of African-American history month and I just wanted to share that house bill 4020 has been making the rounds it is uh a commission to update the African-American history in K K to 12

155instruction and they're setting up a commission of some wonderful notables uh I hope it passes out of the house soon and they will be starting the work as soon as possible if it passes of course uh I'll speak in a passing over to you Jennifer St thank you very much um this Friday is our beads and Beats at the foundation for Seline area schools our annual fundraiser the biggest one of the year um if you don't have tickets yet I don't know we could probably Stacy Ruma could probably figure it out I'm sure because she's very smart um but if you want to bid on auction items if you can't attend in the evening and are interested and taking a look at what is up for offer um check that out now online um support

156fas.org is their main website if anybody has any information or any questions um last night I de uh I attended a Mom's demand meeting uh in support of a resolution that we have passed here at the board table in the past and joined the wash County team to listen in um to hear what they have going on and to keep in contact with Mo'Nique and Susie who came to speak with us um a while back so um they were excited to see another Seline face and I think there was another person from Seline on there too so that was nice to see um similarly to others at the table I would like to acknowledge the Sea's presence and thank them very much for their time and their comments um it was very exciting to me

157as well to see a lot of faces that I haven't seen in many years and um thank them for all of their efforts over the years um conversely I would also like to thank uh the district's um uh collective bargaining team I know that they are working very hard as well um to come to um to to come to some agreements and uh I am looking forward to seeing what happens in mediation I was meeting with Carol diglio earlier this evening and she made I don't think she's going to care if I make this comment um but but we were talking about the idea of being one team in Seline and we were not meeting about collective bargaining we were meeting about superintendent search um but it really resonated with me especially knowing the sea

158was around the corner when we walked into the boardroom um and we are one team so uh thank you for coming tonight appreciate you I will Echo a few of my colleagues regarding the sea uh I want to remind everyone that our teachers do more for our students than just educate them their mentors they're protectors um they're Advocates and that's a big thing uh we've had a lot of excitement in our community over the last week uh so just a reminder to everybody uh out there to know our terminology in the schools for what a lockdown means and what a secure means and what a hold means uh because a lot of misinformation can get out there and I think that's very important for our parents to know that information be able to teach their

159kids uh to make sure that they're listening and following instructions so that we can keep our kids safe we can keep our staff safe and everybody in the schools safe and I will just wrap it up there I appreciate as a board president I appreciated your uh attempts to clarify that on Facebook and uh I gave it a hard like if that's helpful I'd like to uh entertain a motion to authorize the consent agenda as printed please so move is it Austin Tim Austin seconded berck all in favor please say I hi I 60 thank you very much and oh my gosh what's on our next agenda Dr lch two scheduled reports uh deac update and Safety and Security update right and in our close session we'll be talking about the EOP as well and

160uh thank you is there any public comment Madam seeing none the next Board of Education meeting will be held on March 11th at 6:30 in this room I'd like to entertain a motion to adjourn the meeting at 8:44 so move stean steon second tities okay thank you all in favor please say I hi 60 thank you very much slide home carefully it that's coming down eventually

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