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Saline Area Schools: Board of Education Meeting (04.23.2024)

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2024-04-24
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Washtenaw County, MI
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26,807 words · about 149 min
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001more people show up like he still works like on average so You don't need me to gavel in you already  uh looked at the clock and decided it was   6:30 I'll just do it anyway welcome to the  uh I like to call to order the Board of   Education meeting of Saline Area Schools  on April 23rd uh 2024 at 6:30 standing   as you're able please uh we're going to  do the Pledge of Allegiance led by Brad Gerbe. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the  United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you everyone let just get set up I was just  a minute late myself uh we have uh a couple of   very important people to recognize this evening 

002and I'm going to pass the microphone over to uh   Superintendent Laatch. Thank you very much President  McVey. We're going to be starting with Tim Timoszyk and   the Auto Tech Program and talking about 36 years  of education and a wonderful career. So this is   something compiled by Tim that I want to read that  really showcases his importance in education and   the school district and as he's um getting ready  to retire we just want to uh thank him and the   wonderful program that he has um instilled  here in the Saline Area Schools. So we're going   to start with first a little history I completed  my student teaching at Saline High School in the   fall of 1987, my cooperating teacher Greg Bearsy was  very influential in my teaching techniques. After   graduating from Eastern Michigan University I  took a

003job at Lincoln Park High School after   a semester at Lincoln Park I began to look for a  new job as it turns out Greg Bearsy took a job as   an administrator at the William D. Ford Vocational  Tech Center. Greg called and informed me that this   position was going to open up after a couple weeks  I applied for the Automotive Technology teacher   Position and interviewed with Saline High School  Principal Paul Tebeo and David Maris the vocational   director for the SWWC Consortium. At the same  time I had j job offers from GM and L'Anse Creuse   Public Schools. I called Mr Tebeo and let him know  my situation but told him that my first choice was   Saline. The issue was that the Superintendent Morrie  Khan was on vacation Mr Tebeo called me back later   that same evening and

004offered me the job. I'm  probably the only teacher at Saline Area Schools   that is never interviewed with the Superintendent  or the Human Resources Director. I was I was asked   to write about the successes in the Automotive  Technology Program. I've been successful at Saline   High School because I was surrounded by and still  are outstanding people, Karl Roscoe was my assistant   for 34 years. Karl and I had a working relationship  that was second to none. In addition Mary Howley-Visel   who has been the special populations coordinator  for 17 years years. Mary has been instrumental in   helping many of my students to the graduation  finish line. I would be remiss if I didn't   mention the six career technical directors that  allowed me to operate my program the way that I   believe best educated my students. The automotive  technology competition

005highlights over the years   have been numerous we've been very successful  in the Skills USA competitions we've had over   41 State winners and eight National contestants,  several of which have placed in the top 10 in the   nation. My favorite competition was the Ford AAA  Students Auto Skills Competition students in this   competition must first pass a written exam to be  eligible for the hands-on portion of the contest   to prepare for the state finals we would borrow a  brand new vehicle from Briarwood Ford in Saline   former state finalists and advisory committee  members would help me bug the car to prepare the   students for the hands-on contest. Over the years  SWWC won seven state titles, at the national level   we placed top 10 of the nation five times and we  play second of the nation twice. Two activities   that

006I'm most proud of are Adopt a Family Program  that we've participated in for the last 20 years.   My students have raised enough money to adopt over  30 families since 2004. The activity has had the   most influence on my students is the as AES Automotive  Youth Education System Program this program allows   automotive technology students to enter  an internship program with a local dealership   after they've completed the Automotive Technology I Program. Students work full-time with a master   technician during the entire summer break. Upon  return to the school in the fall students are   required to enroll in the Automotive Technology  II Program and co-op education the goal is to have   students find a meaningful career and continue  their education. I want to thank Saline Area Schools   for the opportunity to influence students in a  positive way for the last

00736 years. So with   that said I'd like to bring Tim Timoszyk and any of  his former students, current staff members up to   the microphone to say a few words and then  we want to get a picture with the Board of Education. [Applause] you you toggle it on I think it is on All right my name is Ryan Hastings  I think I graduated in 2011. I'm actually   supposed to be staying up here with my wife  that I met in Auto Class. Auto tech love. Yeah I was part of the AYES program I worked at  La Fontaine Saline there for three or four   years. I participated in the Skills USA and  Ford AAA I think I was first in the state in   both um I don't remember what I I think it  was like 10th in the

008nation for Ford AAA I   don't remember what the Skills USA Timoszyk probably  remembers. I forgot about that a long time ago.  Timoszyk was a big influence in my life he helped  me out a lot especially with all the automotive   competitions um helped me get the job at Saline  there more or less the automotive program itself   was huge so I'm not trying if you guys ever want  to try to get rid of that I'll come back and speak   again because I think I gave him a lot of hell  over the phone because he won't keep working for   another 15 years so he can teach my daughter  but um yeah it's I mean I have an associates   degree through Washtenaw Community College it  was free I won that through all those automotive competitions. I'm trying to think

009of what else I  mean I won at least $20,000 worth tools, there's   a bunch of stuff that I can trace trace back  to that automotive program and I would like   to not see it go away a lot of it goes to he is  dedicated probably more dedicated than he should   be, but and I think I got was pretty pretty good  at getting underneath his skin that was like my   uh little hobby but yeah um so after I left the  dealership I went and worked for a family friend   for a little while I went and worked at GM doing  engine development for like five or six years. Now   I own my own automotive shop in Manchester my wife  and I run it together we've been doing that for a   little over 5 years so pretty much

010everything  as far as my career goes I can trace back to   those classes um easily the if you picked one I  had a lot of good teachers but if I could pick   one teacher that influenced my life the most it  would be that guy he did drive me nuts a lot but   it was worth it so I think it the mut feelings  mutual. Yeah. So I think that's it [Applause]   Hello so my name is John Grademan I'm also a  former student from Mr. Timoszyk class from a while   back I don't know if I care to date myself and  say how far back but it's been a while um so I   graduated in I did graduate in 99. Being a  former student uh competed in Skills USA uh   Ford AAA, although we didn't go to states

011that year  rather not talk about that either um it wasn't my   fault I got I got the test score it wasn't me um  so yeah so I graduated 99 went on to college went   to Western Michigan University with a bachelor's  degree uh continued well got a job straight out of   there uh as an engineer so I got my Bachelor  in Mechanical Engineering um worked in the   auto industry for a while then also went back to  University of Michigan and got my Master's Degree   um professional engineering license as well been  working now at Ford Motor Company for the last   11 years so 20 years in the industry automotive  industry in various places um trying to think   what else oh I actually still have surprisingly  enough my ASE Certification so uh if things don't   go well in

012the auto industry and engineering I  can always go back to being a mechanic again and   actually have done that um on several occasions  all thanks to Mr Timoszyk and and the education that   he provided um I can second Mr Hastings comments  on his passion for the the industry is fuels a lot   of us and I'm sure it it plays a huge role and and  I've seen it shaping a number of the folks that   have gone through the program I'm also a member  of his advisory committee. I am one of the folks   that has helped bug those cars for many years uh  and I think many of us were very disappointed uh   to see that program unfortunately dissolve  a bit the Ford Ford AAA Skills Contest but   we're hoping it makes it come back cuz we

013have a  great time bugging those cars too but uh um yeah   so seeing a lot of the young men that he's he's  and women excuse me that he's brought up through   the program he's he's done a tremendous job and  uh he's been a huge asset so big shoes to fill   for whoever may come their way but thank you  oh and I have kids coming my way we're coming   here starting in Saline Schools so keep up the  good work. A round of applause for that. Three of them. Yeah Justin Sly 2013 graduate the program I  was AYS intern uh through the program competed   in Ford AAA made it to States uh we competed in  Skills USA for two years had a great time uh went   on to further education at Ferris State I think  one of

014the really clear things you notice when   you're sitting there that the impact that the to  Mr. Timoszyk class had was how much further advanced   you are than your peers. Not only that but uh  in the real world working at the dealership   had a 5-year career there and you realize when  there's other folks your age that come in you know   they're still kicking tires while you're pulling  engines and transmissions and that really goes   to show how if you if you take it seriously how  much Mr Timoszyk enabled you to to really learn and   go with it so and then had a great six-year  career at General Motors ever since so thank you. [Applause] I'm Adyson Naebeck and I was supposed to be  here with my dad today. I'm currently a student   of Mr Timoszyk. My dad

015was also a student of Mr. Timoszyk  and he now runs a successful diesel mechanic. He   has his own company worked at Varsity Ford  for oh I don't know 14 16 years and now he   has his own shop in Clinton and runs his diesel  shop. So I know he's got a lot of good things to   say about Mr Timoszyk and I sure thank him for all  of the times he's encouraged us to keep going   in class and yeah. [Applause] I had to write down  some notes because I'll forget everything so uh   my name is Jeff Szpara I graduated from Saline  in 2000 uh I was in Mr. Timoszyk's program for two   years from uh 98 to 2000 I participated in  uh Skills USA and uh made it to Nationals   for Ford AAA. Mr Timoszyk's teaching prepared

016me for  the next four years uh that I spent at Ferris   State University where I got my bachelor in heavy equipment uh manufacturing and then I   was hired directly from Ferris by Cummins  Engine Company uh where I'm still employed   20 years later as a power generation technician  uh here I am many years after graduation with my   son Andrew who is now a junior at Chelsea  High School and in his first year in the   auto program with the same great guy. I'm sure  Andrew and his classmates are a little bummed   that they won't have Mr. Timoszyk next year, but no  doubt they will use the skills that that he has   given them for the rest of their lives uh there  are many other stories like you've heard that   are similar to mine that prove what a

017good can  come out of this program and uh what Mr. Timoszyk  has built it into uh just want to say say thank  you and wish you all the best in the future. Thank you. I am Andrew Szpara his son um this is my  first year in the Auto Program and I've always   heard great things about Timoszyk even before I was  in his program and I can say that those things   are all true. He's a great guy he always pushes  us to be the best that we can he never he gives   us a hard time but he's never going to let us  take the easy way out and I appreciate that   cuz I think I don't know I went to States for  Skills last weekend or the weekend before and   um Timoszyk helped me all the

018way through there  he helped me uh place third in regionals and   there's some stuff that Timoszyk taught us on  the first week that other people didn't   know how to do and it really advances Us in  the industry of so yeah I really appreciate   what Timoszyk has done for the program even though  I am one year student but we'll be sad to see him go. [Applause] So Andrew is interesting I did interview a  lot of students last year and uh when I interview   Andrew one of the questions I have is what makes  you special why should I let you in my program   what makes you better than anybody else. Andrew's  the only one that answered the question this way   and his answer was I'm not I'm not special I'm  no better than anybody else and I'm

019like you're   in, because you know and I had his dad so I mean  he had kind of an inside track anyway um I was   really hoping that uh Matt Naebeck could have been  here because I was really trying to get the kind   of the two generation thing going here um I've  had I've been here so long that this has happened   not once not twice but I can't even count on the  number of fingers that this has happened now where   I've got I've had their son or their daughter and  now I have their kid you know and and I always get   the same question so how am I how is my dad or  how is my mom? Oh they were great when in fact I   might be lying a little bit okay um I was telling 

020Dr. Laatch um today that I'm doing some other work in   other districts right now and uh you know you get  kind of you get kind of spoiled working with the   people that you work with day in and day out  and uh I'm working in a particular District   that they've got an enormous amount of teachers  that are permitted teachers that haven't that   can't pass their certification test you know your  teaching group here is second to none truly is. We   were negotiating here the other morning I've had  spent a lot of quality time here in this building   and um we were talking about attendance and I was  defending teachers and somebody told called me a   unicorn and my quick response back to them was I  am not a unicorn you have very very educated staff   here and

021very um staff that that wants to be here,  that wants to do a good job, that wants to educate   kids and that's my job. You know my job was always  been I was taught very early on about work work   ethic go to work you better be really sick not  to go to work you know and some days like you   know may I go to work and I kind of spread around  a little bit makes my job easier you know I'm okay   that you know so go to work do your job do the  best job you can and ultimately you're always   trying to remember is it's always you're doing the  best job you can for those kids because they're   the future I'm leaving you got to pass it on and  I kept on telling my first

022year kids because I   feel bad you know that I'm leaving you know I  would love to go back to my second year class   next year all the kids that are coming back to my  second year class about 22 kids they're all great   kids nice good kids and I'd love to come back just  for that class because I know them all and uh and   I did tell them kind of is the year was going on  because I told them early on I was retiring I said   I will not leave you if I can't find somebody good  to replace me and hopefully tonight you will okay   the person that has applied that our candidates  and I had an advisory committee meeting the other   night and I could not tell these people that we  had hired somebody because

023we haven't because   you have to approve them so there hopefully that  happens tonight and um I think that the person the   future is very, very bright for the program. I'm  excited I've told this person that I will come   back I just call me and like Kara Stemmer my  new boss number six and I love Kara you know I   didn't even try to count the number of principles  I've had okay. I did the superintendence I did my   vocational directors but my CTE directors but not  the principles because that's a lot. I love Kara   because she's um all about process and procedure  she's about rules and that kind of stuff and we   fit we work real well together then um and she's  going to do a great job here um you know people   like Mary Visel and

024my like my assistant Karl and  those kind of people. They make me better I mean   I'm a good decent teacher but those people around  me make it much better you know um when I was Union   President I had a great VP I had a great Treasurer  I had all those people around me and it just made   me better. So again I want to thank you the school  board Dr. Laatsch and everybody in the school board and   thank you again for the time that I got to  spend here at s high school thank you very much. [Applause] Okay let's let's get  everybody up for a picture They put tall people in the back Okay I'm just gonna head to the next one. And on  to our next Legend Dave Mellor uh Dave is also   also uh

025retiring this year and he's done just a  tremendous job with our Agriculture Program. And   so we're going to start with all these accolades,  awards, accomplishments that um their program has   achieved over just this year and a half and it's  impressive so if we start at the national level in   July of 2023 the Ag program at Saline High School  is listed as the fifth best Ag program in the   United States and first place in Michigan by the  Ag experience tracker of Texas A&M University. Also   received bronze in the National Food, Science,  and Technology team and Isabella Emrick got an   American FFA degree. At the state level at Summer  State Skills Contest in 2023, we start with the   State Tractor Driving Team Nathan Dubnicki was  State winner in Garden Tractor Division. Jackson   Schaible was State Runner Up

026in the Garden Tractor  Division. William Rogers was State Runner Up in   Zero Turn Mower Division and Henry Sch Schneider  was State Runner Up in Utility Tractor and Trailer   Division. Fast forward to the fall of 2023 at  the Michigan Broiler Contest State Runner Up   for 9th grade Ag Biology Class with six gold  entries and three silver entries. Then in Spring   of 2024 at Michigan FFA State Convention we talk  about March um State FFA Degrees Adyson Naebeck which   I had a chance to see at Michigan State was State  Runner Up in the Star State farmer, Payton Klein   5th Place State Star and Ag Placement, and 12  State FFA Degrees, with six free college credits at   MSU. The State Outstanding Junior Awards, William  Rogers third place for State Outstanding Junior   Award, 19 total State Outstanding Junior Awards.  And

027for State Proficiency Awards at Work Based   Experience the state winner was Adyson Naebeck, in Diversified Livestock Production Proficiency.   The State Winner Abigail Road in Agroscience  Research Proficiency, seven gold proficiency   awards, 12 silver proficiency awards, and six  bronze proficiency awards. At State Leadership   Contest State Bronze with the Demonstration Team  for Farm Safety, State Bronze Job Interview Contest   Kendal Mickey, State Bronze Kendall Livingston  FFA Creed Speaking Contest. At the Arthur Berkey   State Agroscience Research Contest the State  Winner for Plant Science Research Max Girbach   and Ryan Feldkamp. State Second John Ronayne Plant  Science Research. State Winner Lola Stacy and   Lyla Naebec in Animal Science Research. State Second  Audrey Wallen and Bell Schilz that was in Animal   Science. State Winner of Logan Haley and Cole Yarger in Environmental Research. State Winner Abigail   Rohde in Environmental Research. State Second Place  Markie

028Girard-Wootan in Food Science Research and a State   State Second Place Kendall Livingston and Savannah  Iverson in Food Science Research and then we had   the State FFA Band Carmen Cunningham on flute and  the State FFA Choir Carmella Gatto, Olivia Hafner,   and Markie Girard-Wootan. And the Spring State Skills  Career Development Events for MSU on Friday April   19th were awaiting the results for 14 teams. That  was just this year and a half and you can imagine   over Dave's career there were many many many awards.  So with that said we want to invite up uh Dave   Mellor and his students and they're going to say  a few words and then we're going to take another   picture because we're excited for um hearing  more about your experience. So you can just start with. um I'm Gavin Male uh senior at

029Saline High School  and I thought I'd talk about how Mr. Mellor has   affected my life so uh FFA has made my high  school career the most enjoyable it can be   from state and national conventions to chapter  events and meetings there's always been something   going on that has brought memories I will cherish  for the rest of my life. Mr. Mellor has made this   all happen, he has always pushed everyone to do  their best from making sure we turning our award   applications and updating our AET Records to telling  us to fill out a chapter officer application. Even   though we don't think we're the best fit Mr. Mellor  always saw something in us that he knew would be   great for the chapter. Saline FFA has brought me  so many opportunities for the past three years I   have been

030able to achieve two Silver and one Gold  Proficiency Awards in Turf Grass and Landscape   Management. My Outstanding Junior Degree, my Region  Two Star Award in Agricultural Placement, and my   State FFA degree, I've been on the officer team for  the past three years as sentinel, vice president,   and now student adviser. I have participated in  job interview contests and meats judging contest   for the past three years as well. I will truly miss  the time I've spent in FFA and but I will always   remember the time I've spent in this organization and keep those memories with me for the rest of my life. [Applause] Hello my name is Allison Finkbeiner. I am  a senior at Saline High School and I have been in   the Ag classes for all four years of that. Mr Mellor has pushed us to take

031do things that   we usually wouldn't be comfortable with  um especially when it comes to public   speaking I was in the Creed Contest where I  went to state level um and just being   in this class you think it would only teach you  about agriculture but not only has it taught me   about agriculture it's taught me about lifelong  skills, like how to talk to people and um how to   be professional, and how to speak to a group of  people such as yourselves. I also got second   nationally with the Science Fair and I wouldn't  have done that if it weren't for Mellor pushing me so   I'm glad that we have such a great teacher here  to push us to do things and grow academically   and just as people ourselves. Thank you. [Applause]  I'm Adyson Naebeck I'm currently the

032Saline   FFA Chapter President and I would just like to  thank Mr. Mellor for a wonderful last four years   he as Allie and Gavin both said has pushed us  to do things that we normally probably wouldn't   have done, he saw something in us that we didn't  even see in ourselves, and he made sure that we   got our AET records done as much as we didn't  want to do them, and they paid off in the end   because I got a Star Finalist in Star Farmer  this year and a Gold State Degree and a State   Winner Degree, so thank you to Mr. Mellor for the  last four years the people and the memories I've   made and the lessons I've learned I will  cherish for the rest of my life [Applause] I'm William Rogers from the Saline FFA chapter 

033um and I've been the former reporter and vice   president of our chapter and next year I'm going  to be the president. FFA has really impacted   me more than any other subject in school has  overall uh I remember my first year I started   when I was a freshman I was just kind of messing  around and having fun in the class then he got   me to do public speaking which I didn't really  want to do but I got 4th in the state and then I   realized I actually have to start trying now, so  then I kept going at that and I've got a lot of   awards throughout the years and uh he's pushed me  to become a regional officer this year for Region   2 in Michigan so I was the sentinel and this year  coming back we're

034finding out this weekend but   I'm most likely president or vice president of  our region and then this year I'm also running   as a state officer so Mr. Mellors really impacted  that a lot. I also got to be on the Food Science   Team this year at Nationals which was really  interesting and cool, and uh Mr. Mellor wanted me   to show off some of the awards just from this year  so that everyone can kind of understand what each   student gets to do. Um so this year I got uh Gold  and Raising Broilers and I got 3rd in the state   out of all the juniors for our Records um we also  uh like many of our students received I received   uh Gold and Silver Proficiency Degrees in Diversified Livestock and Crop Production and uh   also received um the

035uh Silver Academic Excellence  and that's for our grades in GPA overall and a   lot of our students participated in that and they  all received a lot of awards and one thing about   Mr. Mellor that's different than a lot of teachers  is I feel like he's like part of your family even   outside of school he's like an extra Grandpa if  you need one and uh he's there for the good times   and the bad times whether you're we're walking  across stage at the State Convention winning   awards or like this year we sadly had a former  member pass away and we had to attend a funeral   but that's what makes the FFA specials because  we're more of a family than a class. Ao I think Mr.   Mellor is a great teacher and the next teacher better  be a

036quarter of as good as he is so [Applause] Hello um my name is Carmen Cunningham and I'm  a current student of Mr. Mellors so in the 8th   grade I loved riding horses that's my passion  I've been doing it for over six years and when   I joined this class it kind of changed  everything for me so whenever whenever   I ride horses it was I was very dedicated and I  didn't have a lot of time to reach out to friends   and so I was very limited in the people that  I talked to I probably only had four friends   um and then I joined this class and I kind  of found a family that I wasn't expecting   to find it was really special to me cuz I felt  like I had a place that I belong now and

037I was   really excited and I didn't want to let that go  that go um I also really enjoyed Mellor's class   just because he's he's very silly he's fun he's  engag enged in everyone and is very dedicated to   everyone and wants everyone to do well um I've  also had the unique opportunity to participate   many different competitions that I would not  have otherwise done um I got before I was not   really excited about public speaking and then  I did the public or I did the Prepared Public   Speaking this year and then Creed last year, and I  made it all the way to States last year with Creed   which was something that I never thought would  have happened because public speaking scared   me very much that was like one of my biggest fears  and Mr. Mellor helped me

038look past that and realize   that I I could do it, and then I also was able to  get second in the state for my Skills Contest in   Milk Judging last year which was also something  that I was not expecting. I was very unsure because   it was my first year and I didn't know what to  expect but it was very reassuring to see that   if I put in the work that I could do well and it's  and it's all because of Mr. Mellor I'mma miss you a lot. [Applause] Wow all those accolades anyway um to  finish up the list there we did get some   results for the state contest  just before this started and um   Tim will be very happy that we get we're second  in the State for Nursery Landscape so some pret   and um

039Carmen picked up 5th in the state in  uh uh Dairy Quality Judging and the team did   too. We're waiting for several contests but those  are the first two we've got results on so that's   how we we probably will have some more to report  to you but I I just like to say that uh it's been privilege, pleasure, thank you. [Applause] come up [Applause] We'll just wipe our own tears just a wee bit. After judging the uh several FFA competitions  and going to all their uh banquets it's those kids   are great I love every one of them that I've had  a chance to know. I'd like to invite all school   members to our next banquet which will be Monday May 13 at 6:30. All right we'll be there. Public comment section a   member of of the public

040may address the board  briefly for up to 3 minutes or request to be   scheduled on the agenda of a future meeting please  note that students will be given priority to   speak on any topic the first public participation  portion of the meeting will be limited to 1 half   hour 30 minutes normally and limited to agenda  items a second public participation portion will   be offered at the end of the agenda to allow  for any other comment individuals addressing   the board should take into consideration of the  rules of common courtesy, public participation   of the meeting cannot be used to make personal  attacks against a board member, district employee,   or student thank you and we have uh three so  far I think that's just three. David Hayward   followed by Tiffany Alexander and I'll just read  the whole list Amy

041Teslon that's your one, two, three.   And you are ready to uh Secretary Miller has got  her time cards I know you've done this before so   we won't review those rules. I think I know the  rules. This comment concerns the agenda item   uh because the policy uh committee uh is is on  the agenda um at the March 12th meeting or six   weeks ago uh there was a discussion which I know  everyone on the board is um aware of concerning um   the role that Neola plays or uh may play in the  writing of policy guidelines um I've been as as   the board is well aware I've been trying to get  um some answers regarding what uh role Neola does   or does not uh play in this this uh procedure for  the last six weeks um part of

042my comment is just   to get this read into the the public uh domain  um and this is I want to make it clear this   is not my interest in this is not some piece of  trivia or some kind of gotcha question um but this   this concerns the fact that it's been nearly two  years now since the Transgender and Non-binary   Student policy was passed by this board and it has  gone unimplemented for almost three years um and   this this uh issue about Neola being involved  in writing the guidelines is uh appears to be   um one more in a long line of reasons for delaying  this implementation. At the recommendation of this   board the trans parent group uh in the last  6 weeks has sought out consultation with uh   numerous stakeholders including a number  of students who

043did inform us of many uh   significant problems which have have made the  the urgency of of adopting these guidelines all   the more obvious uh significant problems including  shortcomings in record keeping that are leading to   persistent dead naming of students, students who  have been forced to use accommodations contrary   to their gender identity during field trips,  and students who feel that they have to hide   their identity in certain classes because they  fear that there are specific teachers who will   engage in harassment against them. These are  all things that should these are the reasons   that this board adopted this policy almost three  years ago and because of the lack of guidelines   these things have still not been dealt  with. Thank you. Thank you Dr Hayward. [Applause] Almost tripped over my purse that would  have been funny for everybody

044um except me so   I'm here and I guess actually it does fall  under policy but I was actually thinking of   it as under the threat assessment um my lay  person's understanding of threat assessment   means danger to others or danger to yourself  um I already know this board is well aware   that the trans community has one of if not the  highest suicide rates in the entire country um   and that is doubly so for students. So what's  the better way to ensure that trans students   do not harm themselves as a school district  than to to pass a policy supporting trans   students. Well that was a long fought policy you  guys did pass it you passed it unanimously not   everybody in this district including not every  single admin wanted that pass it was hard fought   people fought really

045hard to get that done but  the board did, the board unanimously embraced it   now we are almost three years in and we have  things going on in the classroom such as was   previously mentioned students who are dead  named and students who dead name themselves,   because they know that that teacher will out them.  These are not my words these are words of students   of which some of you have heard and yet  here we are no guidelines. So I understand this   work takes time, I understand very well because  I've done the work so a bunch of people came   together and they used the exact same um content  that the policy was made from to create guidelines,   along with peer-reviewed articles, information  from parents, teachers, admin, students, to create   a very respectable body of work that there are 

046now four different ways to access, two slideshows   one specifically for teachers uh one very big  long document that apparently the fact that it's   long is is somewhat problematic so that's fine  there is now one that will be much shorter and   and yet we have no guidelines, and despite the  fact that these are now being presented we still   have no idea when we're going to be able to relay  this information to you or to concerned parties   or stakeholders. So at this point as a parent of  a non-binary student I'm led to actually question   how many of you up there actually want this passed? I  I I I have no other choice but to ask ask are you   really dedicated to getting these guidelines  passed and this policy implemented? Because a   after three years it hasn't been

047done and the  excuse of that well we have this other company   that's doing them um and we can't get a response  after six weeks on if this com is something that   this company does which the company is apparently  under the idea that they don't. It seems to me that. Thank you. So it seems to me that my my concern is now with, is the board willing to implement its own policy? [Applause] Thank you. resident McVey and the Saline  Area School Board Trustees. Today I am speaking   as a concerned parent on the topic of Threat  Assessment we all know the stakes the high   stakes involved I hate that our schools have  to deal with this my daughter has nightmares   about it every after every drill um when I  worked at Pleasant Ridge as a dishwasher I   was

048able to participate in two trainings  with respect to school shootings. The   first was in my orientation which involved  role playing, and the second a few years   later was focused on prevention. The expert  trainer explained that once there is an active  uh school shooter it's almost too late the most  well researched preventative measures involved   creating a school climate where students felt  they were supported and that they belonged. I   have looked over many research papers since and  these conclusions are similar. I recommend that   Saline Area Schools takes guidance and training  from experts on this various serious topic as they   have in the past. Saline Area Schools has many  amazing teachers, staff, and administrators they   are devoted and care deeply about the students  as we heard tonight uh and many many more. But   they aren't experts at everything

049how could  they be? There are so many things that they   don't have the resources to handle. I worry  about the pressure on our teachers and our   administrators to be perfect or have perfect  schools or perfect classrooms. This can lead to   a culture where things are hidden and fester and  become a breeding ground for future violence and   harm, sadly and not unique to Saline Area Schools my  heart my heart breaks knowing that many Saline Area  School students do not feel like they belong. Often  based on incidents of bullying and suspensions I   implore the board and the district to objectively  assess where Saline Area Schools is succeeding and   where Saline Area School needs help expertise  and resources. Our students lives depend on it. [Applause] Thank you very much um there is no response to  previous public comment

050from last week's meeting   but since there are three comments this week  I really suspect that I'll have something to   say in two weeks time, thank you. We are now  at the Revisions Approval of the Agenda Items   can be added or deleted from the agenda and  the order can be changed uh at the request of   an individual board member or the superintendent  the agendas must be approved before proceeding   further. I'd like to entertain a motion to approve  the agenda as printed. I would like to make a   revision. All righty. I am requesting that  we add um a discussion item so that would   be um nine discussion Item B um regarding board  seeking legal services and the process with that. Just writing it down. Sorry board seeking legal  services? Is that what you said? Yes. And there  

051was another part but I think got it all  right process all right process or process   all right thank you so I'd like to entertain a  motion then to a approve the agenda as revised.   Need a second. I need a motion first. I'd like  to entertain a motion to approve the agenda as revised. It doesn't sound like anyone  is willing to entertain that addition.   So perhaps there might be another,  unless I should just wait a bit longer? So so you're suggesting  nobody's I'm sorry so   you're asking whether anybody wants to  put that add to the the agenda? It sounds   like there's no motion to approve the agenda  as. I will motion. Revised. Okay, do we have a support? Okay well that being the case then uh  Trustee Estep well I'm going to recommend then   is uh

052you and I communicate with each other  and we. Oh I'll communicate during my board   updates. Okay let's do it the right way then  uh if you could communicate with me regarding   what it is you want to discuss and maybe we  can find. I have Michael. Excuse me I'm I'm going to   just finish and then we can well no I've got  a sentence I'd like to get to the end of then   we can figure out a next step to make sure  that your concern is addressed uh formally   by the board. Okay? So we go back then I I like  to entertain a motion to approve the agenda as printed. So moves Steben. Support Gerbe. Gerbe.  All right thank you very much all in favor   please say I. I. Opposed. Me. All right uh well  6-1 then

053thank you. Tonight we have a oh   as as as per tradition now I'm going to ask our  student representatives to in uh introduce the   student showcase. Tonight's student showcase is  about the Saline High School's World Language   Conference um the presenters are Julianna Marini  and Ethan Hornberger and their advisors Beth Gregones. Hi. I'm Beth Gregones. I teach Spanish  at the high school and I'm the World Language   Department Chair and also the advisor for  Spanish Club. we hosted a conference for   World Language teachers at the High School  this weekend and we had teachers from across   the the country come. We are assisted by  Spanish Club and our student um leaders   Ethan and Juliana and they are going to tell  you a little bit about the conference and   then share a portion of the presentation they  presented during

054one of the sessions of the conference. Okay, hi, wait how do you? Okay so my name is Juliana and I  am a junior at Saline High School um   I play Varsity Lacrosse and Ice Hockey  and I am a member of the Spanish Club   and Student Council. So I have been a part  of the Spanish program since my freshman   year and have been a leader of this club  since about the end of my freshman year as well. My name is Ethan Hornberger I'm a junior  at Saline High School as well. I'm on the Cross   Country and Lacrosse Team as well as Student  Council and I've been in the Spanish program   um all throughout high school and  even since first grade um we are   both in AP Spanish currently and had Ms. Gregones for Spanish 4. So now

055we're going to tell you a little  bit about the conference we presented at which   is CI in the Mitten so this conference had  225 teacher participants from 12 states and   eight languages were represented. Our  Spanish Club helped help facilitate and   organize this and I helped facilitate  and organize last year as well um but   this year Spanish Club really stepped  up um and this was our first year with   student presenters which was Ethan and I um and  the conference helps fund our program um and yeah. We also would like to  mention that Chef Danielle and   the SWWC Culinary Program provided snacks  and meals um and then and then uh this is   the largest portion of the fund that we  get through Spanish Club so it was really   important to us to present this year um  it

056helps all of the activities that we do. Here are a few pictures from uh set up and the conference. So now we'll talk a little bit about our Spanish Club specifically and what we have  done to grow it. First we wanted to talk about the Spanish Club itself and how um last year we   had around 10 to 15 members uh throughout a lot  of through a lot of student outreach that Juliana   and I created as presidents um we started off  Spanish Club this year with around 50 members   uh about 30 of those are active but it's still  a very large club compared to some of the others.   We also would like to talk about how um in  the previous years around our freshman year   year was the final year of the Spanish Club or  the French Club and

057program so without the French   Club it only left Spanish and German Club and  Spanish Club started doing a lot of activities   on its own so Juliana and I stepped up to help  to make sure that the Spanish club didn't go away. So we do a lot of this outreach through  social media um we have an Instagram page which   we follow just a bunch of people from Saline High  School and all of our class student council pages   so we were able to um use that to get more  traffic to our page and we posted some flyers   that we had created which included uh code  to our Google Classroom which is one of our   means of communication, alongside our GroupMe, um  which really helps get the message out there and   helps us uh communicate with our advisor

058uh Señora  Gregones. We also posted that teal poster right there   all around the school so that's one of the ways  that a lot of people find out about Spanish Club. To talk about a little bit about the club  events so as we said we've set we've helped   um set up the World Language Conference  for a while now but this was our first   year presenting, we also have um the Club  Fair in the fall and spring which Spanish   club makes sure to set up our trifold  and that picture there um we also have   meetings every Thursday and then every so  often we have parties um or fiestas and we   have catering and piñatas to make sure that um  people enjoy going to Spanish Club and stay active. Here are just some photos from like typical  club

059events and parties um like we said we love   getting catering and doing food and we have like a  gingerbread making contest every year so it really   helps bring the students in our club together  and gives common activities for everyone to do.   An a lot of the food here was um we paid  for and as well as the gingerbread houses we   paid for through our funds from this conference  uh Spanish Club is one of the only clubs that   doesn't have um a fee to be a part of it so this  conference really helps us um get our funds and   then we also have some more pictures just from  meeting activities uh starting off for Hispanic   Heritage Month we made the collage in the middle  it had a lot of um Hispanic figures and then we   also

060made um paper flowers just to put around  it and it was in the middle of the Spanish   hallway so as people are walking by they'll  see it um we also created a poster uh for um   of Afro Latinos and each person like colored a  different portion of the page so we were able to   put it all together and also hang that in the  Spanish hallway so um as Juliana said the one   poster on the right was for Black History Month  just a few months ago and we tried to coincide   a lot of our activities through Spanish Club  with stuff that's going on uh currently and by   showcasing art that we make in Spanish Club  it sort of helps us draw in new members as well. So this is an excerpt from  our presentation that we

061gave at the   conference but uh this is going  to talk about the impact of this   club and why it's so important  to us and to people at Saline High School. First we want to talk about  community so throughout um our years in   Spanish Club there were as I said there were  just about 10 people a few years ago and now   there are a lot more so it's a similar group to  people who keep coming back and um it provides   a nice break at the end of the day um people  can look forward to it they know it's every   single Thursday and we yeah we like to have  fun and we like to go back to that same group   yeah we've grown a great Community within the  club um and although there can be little small  

062groups within that club we do so many events  where everyone can come together and have like   a common like activity a common theme that  we all share and something everyone can Bond over. This club also provides people with  quality education so some of our members are   not currently in a Spanish class or may not just  have it this trimester um so through Spanish Club   we're able to give them like immersement into  the language and we do that through like our fun   activities and our favorite choreographer Mundo  Guyi. So it's just a easy and great way to put   that into um the minds of our peers. It's also  a great way to connect different levels of Spanish   um I know AP Spanish has had uh increasingly  more people in it each year we have people   in

063Spanish Club and from Spanish 1, 2, 3, 4, and  AP like ourselves so by having um Spanish Club   include everybody it is a great um it's a  great pipeline to keep the Spanish program going thank you guys [Applause] So before you  sit down muchas gracias um maybe somebody at the table   might have a quick question for you. A question? Thank you. Preguntas? Does it have to be in Spanish?   Si, si. No it can be in English correct yeah  okay Michael and I do French so this is this   is hard um so first of all thank you for coming I  appreciate it. I think that cultural intelligence   and respect for other um languages is so important  so the the sentence that really stuck with me that   you said is you didn't want to see it go

064away  so you stepped in and I appreciate that that's   so important. Foreign language is important  here it's probably going to be important in   the future and I know that Saline students travel  quite a bit so it's always um nice and respectful   of other cultures when you can at least say  say some of the greetings and and things so   I appreciate that. I had two questions  and I'll just say them both and then you   can answer how you'd like um I was able to meet  and and um get to know several exchange students   this past fall when they came um and are still  here and was just curious if you try to involve   exchange students in your uh in your program um  the conference or or Spanish club or German club   or or what have you?

065And then also um  what are you doing to get the younger   grades involved um particularly like you  said when they don't have um Spanish that tri? This year we don't currently have any  exchange students in Spanish Club but last   year we had two exchange students from Spain who  are a very active part um they really enjoyed uh   listening to a lot of their music we created a  playlist and they incorporated a lot of music   from Spain um and yeah as I said this year we don't have any exchange students but it was lots of fun having them last year. Recruitment, Maybe particularly with with freshmen just coming   into the um the high school yeah so last year we  went to the club fair and we super annoying and   like we're like flagging down students um like  the

066incoming freshman so we were able to get a   lot of them in the club like I think almost  half of our members are probably freshman at   at the moment so being their first year of high  school they're looking for clubs to join and we   made like our trifold poster like super flashy  like we had candy and everything and we just   keep them engaged and with those fun activities um  this is it's also growing a little bit harder each   year as um a lot of the younger grades don't have  Spanish at school um I know we've grown up with   Spanish in school so it's sort of a a struggle  to get people to join it right in high school   um so we hope that Spanish club  can be a way to do that in the future.

067All right I'm kind of notorious for asking this question but I'm gonna do it in Spanish. Ready? Como podemos ayudarte? How can we help you? What  can we do like what can the board do to support   you? You can correct them too. And you could oh  correct me please because I think it's would it   be. Como podamos ayudarte. Right? Yeah how can we yeah all  right. Anyway there you go I think I got it right. Actually just, honestly just bringing... Shout out to my  Spanish teacher. Just bringing more attention to   the program itself um it is a very big program  at Saline High School we have that's the most   teachers, the most students involved um but just  keeping that attention on it and like making sure   students know it's a great community it's we have  great teachers,

068Spanish Club itself is and just   keeping those Club Fairs going it's so helpful  for students to see the opportunities that they have. Okay, I um I just was uh impressed with  the shared experiences that you're offering   the club and students and I think those shared  experiences are um really helpful to the culture   of the school overall so when you have something  that ties you to together and some experiences   that tie you together it can be just really  positive for the culture of the whole school   um I'm really impressed with your presentation  of the conference and that you help facilitate   that conference and um I have I have a daughter  who's in college right now and being published   or giving presentations is something that future  employers are looking for and so the fact that   you're doing

069that now when you're juniors I think  are you juniors yeah juniors in high school is is   really impressive and something that um will  you for a long time. I also noticed um as   you mentioned the uh food and catering that you  um are able to provide through those funds and   so I'm wondering with that with that I'm curious  about um the connections that you're making to the   Hispanic community at large. I'm I'm thinking  the catering is probably from per perhaps some um   authentic uh cooks and chefs in our community and  if there are any other um connections that you're making. Okay um so we the first time we  got catering was in our conversational   Spanish class last year um we went we asked  around to a lot of the uh local restaurants   and a lot

070of them weren't willing to  uh give us a huge spread of food at 8   a.m. um the first one that did say yes  was Paradise right down the street um   and we have since um kept an open text thread  with them um we've had Spanish catering at um a   Spanish Club meeting and an AP Spanish class as  well so um it's been good to connect with them   because we keep going back to them and they're  always really appreciative and helpful um and um yeah. I think those connections are really  important for our school for our community   I think it's important for us to know too  um you know we always like to support local   establishments so it's really um nice and  uh great way to um connect thank you. Well thank you. um I've appreciated

071the Spanish food and  AP Spanish and conversations um I wanted to ask   what your goals are for the club for next  year um as you guys are going to continue   being leaders and how you're going to leave it  better than you found it. We would love to   get as many people involved as possible um like  we said we have 30 like active members at the   moment but I mean it'd be really cool to make  that number more and we're currently trying to   find like two sophomores um to train to like  take our spots when we graduate in two years   um so that and also like we've cre created  the Instagram account and like made it a   lot more more like p publ I don't really know  what to call that but making sure like that  

072gets passed down to each um leader and training  those leaders to take over like we did.   We also in previous years we've done the mural for  Hispanic Heritage Month but this was the first   year we did something for Black History Month  so I think um creating a lot of uh art made by   the students in Spanish class or Spanish Club um  and posting it around the school helps to um let   people know that we're there but also helps to  highlight uh the intersectionality of a lot of   people um who speak Spanish and we'd like to  um keep expanding that part of Spanish Club as well. So thank I I just want to say  thank you to uh your teacher so [in Spanish] it's going very slowly uh but thank you you've  done a wonderful

073job with with the with the team   and the the club and thank you and thank you for your leadership in it. Thank you guys so much. Thank you. [Applause] We have gracias. We have two  scheduled reports and we rolled the dice   beforehand and to determine who would  go first and Carol and Lindsay you won. Good evening. Thank you for the opportunity to  speak to you this evening I'm Carol Melcher   currently Principal of the Saline Alternative High  School and longtime member of the District School   Safety Team. Hi, I'm Lindsay Guenther I'm the Assistant  Principal at Saline Middle School and I am honored   to be here this evening so thanks for having us.  Difficult topic but I hope uh we will alleviate   some of your concerns this evening with our  presentation. I had the honor and the privilege

074of   attending a training presented by Dr. Dewey Cornell  about three years ago and I going to give you a   brief bio on Dr. Cornell so you can understand  the reason why this training was so important   he's currently a Forensic Clinical Psychologist,  Director of the Virginia Youth Violence Project,   and Faculty Associate of the Indiana I'm sorry  The Institute of Law Psychiatry and Public Policy.   During his clinical and academic career Cornell  has worked with juvenile and an adult violent   offenders, he's testified in criminal proceedings,  and legislative hearings and consulted on violence   and prevention efforts he's authored more than  300 Publications in Psychology and Education   including studies of juvenile homicide, school  safety, bullying and threat assessment. He is   the principal author of the Comprehensive  School Threat Assessment Guidelines. He's   currently directing a national study of  school threat assessment

075with funding from   the US Department of Justice. A major emphasis  in his work is the achievement of equity and   fairness in school discipline and educational  outcomes. He holds a PhD from the University of Michigan. In addition to this training uh Lindsay  and I were also um able to attend a training   at uh Washtenaw Community College that was put on by  the Michigan State Police and that was in Threat   Assessment as well uh we were thrilled when  we entered the building and saw that Officer   Gasaway was there. He's the school res resource  officer at Saline High School. So the acronym CSTAG   is that that is what we'll be referencing  this evening so it is an evidence-based program   um since 2013 by the US Department of Health  and Human Services and is considered the gold   standard so

076we may need to move on to the  next slide if we haven't done so already   I'm doing it all right oh they gave me  that power okay um they do partner with   um the Sandy Hook Foundation as well and  the belief truly is to elaborate to not   go through a cumbersome elaborate process for  threat assessments but to have questions and key   observations and processes that allow us to be  objective when we're you know trying to address   um a potential threat. So the system that we've  adopted is more efficient um and we have places   is for less serious and more serious and we want  to make sure that we are um you know collaborating   with our colleagues to do this work in addition  to making sure that all buildings have teams that   can address this so

077as Carol mentioned she went  to the train the trainer um directly from CSTAG. I   went to the CSTAG training as well. Our goal has  been to train our administrative teams and our   mental health professionals in every building um  as you'll hear later on in the presentation it's   really looking at the root cause of some of  the behavior that we're seeing and that takes   a well-rounded team to give that well-rounded  response to anybody that's involved and so we'll   go through a lot more details but our priority  was to ensure that our administrators and mental   health professionals were trained first and  we'll be expanding our training um after this date. I did push buttons. Okay so what is threat  assessment um lots of folks have different ideas   but truly what it is is to assess behaviors.  We

078look at a behavioral threat assessment   as a problem-solving approach to violence  pre prevention that involves assessment and   intervention with students who have threatened  violence in some way. Sometimes we learn from   conducting a threat assessment that discipline  is not necessary at all, but that mental health   supports are indicated so we want to make sure  that we look at a comprehensive threat assessment   to include not only just what happened or what the  student may or may not have said but also to look   at um whether or not we need to put additional  supports in place to make sure that that student   is supported. We currently have conducted 34 threat  assessments at the secondary level and 15 at the   elementary level since February of 2022 when  we first began our trainings. We really want to   take the opportunity

079as we're conducting threat  assessments to figure out what can we prevent   so how we do this is identifying what what needs  to be identified what was said, what was done, um   and are we seeking help from other professionals  to help um this person in distress um we want to   evaluate so while we're evaluating we do that from  a team approach um we need to first and foremost   figure out where are we at, is there a serious  threat, and or is this something that needs to   be addressed right now in this moment we have a  lot of technology that supports us in this that   flags information for us um I know those have  already been presented to you but we're getting   information from all sorts of different places, and  we want to make sure that people

080continue to feel   comfortable to report um but we also evaluate  from all of the information provided to us most   importantly that was the intervention so not  only are we assessing the threat and responding   to it but the the way we close out a threat  assessment is to make sure that we're putting   in intervention because we don't want to have to  respond to a crisis. We want to be preventative. We   want to make sure that prevention is occurring  and that we're getting information and respond   appropriately to make sure that that student  and that family and/or anyone else involved   in what we have found is supported and we have a  clear path forward and making sure that everyone   is able to come to school in a positive way. Prevention doesn't always require prediction we   don't have crystal

081balls we'll talk about that  later in our uh presentation we cannot predict   what happens but we can make sure that people  are supported um and we want to make sure that   we have safety regulations that make roads  safer and we have all different platforms in which that we gather information  we are looking at evaluating that information   and providing interventions as needed. We don't  want to always think crisis, we're trying to be   preventative. When I'm going to click so that  was the slide we just went through sorry I should   not be trusted with the clicker um and then  when should a threat assessment be conducted   so we're going to go over a couple of pieces of  information in regard to that so stay statements   are behaviors that express intent to harm others  um these can be

082direct or indirect statements. We also are making sure that we're looking at  plans, means, and intent so sometimes we have   fleeting comments that are made um especially  at where I work the Middle School um sometimes   we don't think before we post, speak, or act and  so we want to make sure that we're truly looking   at do you have a plan, do you have means, and do  you have intent. Looking at that planning and   preparation of causing harm to someone how is it  just a comment or is their plan, means, and intents   behind it. So transient transient threats um think  those fleeting comments of you know in the moment   heat of the ,oment I'm responding quickly not  thinking before I speak or post a lot of things   happen on social media um or substantive now it's 

083not how it's spelled we had to practice this when   we were doing our trainings substantive  threats and that truly is looking at plans,   means, and intent and/or actions that have already  occurred that go into that plan, means, an intent   um we're going to talk a little bit more later  in the presentation about the differences between   transient and substantive um threats um but  that's really what we're looking at as those three domains. So what we want to do is not operate  out of a position of fear um zero tolerance   has been Institute in our state for quite some  time and truly what threat assessment can do   is eliminate the need for zero tolerance it  gives us an idea to look at different ways   to discipline, different ways to hold students  accountable, and different ways to get

084students   the help that they need. Suspensions as  you know um lead to falling behind, dropout   rates are increased, school to prison pipeline  is increased, so we do everything that we can   to prevent suspensions and keep students in  school if it is safe to do so. There is no   profile of a school shooter it just does not  exist, but we can avert school shootings by   looking very very carefully at some problem  solving techniques, intervention when students   report threats so we have to look at the  difference between snitching and informing   and we have to educate students on what the  difference is between tattling and telling and   those are two very very important things that we  want to start teaching students at the prek level. So additional principles that we look at in regard  to the threat assessment

085process and this comes   both from CSTAG but also the Secret Service  and DOE so targeted violence is the result of   an understandable process it's not just a random  or spontaneous act. We truly need to consider the   person, the situation, the setting, and the target  in addition we added students individual educucational needs keep in mind the person who makes  the threat and the person who is the target both   are important in providing support and making sure  that we are communicating with both. We need to   make sure that we're maintaining an investigative  sk uh skeptical mindset keep in mind that we want   to believe all students that are you know we want  to believe everybody that they're telling us the   truth but also keeping that skeptical mindset that  it prompts us to ask additional questions, to dig  

086deeper, tell us what that looks like tell us what  that sounded like who was involved and not just   stopping at one person's word but getting as many  statements as we can as possible. Focus on the   facts and behaviors not traits we all present  differently as humans um developmentally we   present very different from elementary all the way  up to high school and everything in the middle um   so we want to make sure that we are looking  at the facts and behaviors and what's being   reported in addition to getting lots of different  statements um using the information again from all   possible sources um sometimes we get inundated  with information if it's widespread sometimes we   don't we have to go looking for it so we say  where were you where was this located we ask   the who what

087where why how questions often and  frequent uh to ensure that we're getting as much   information as possible. It's really important to  keep in mind and this one's really hard especially   when we don't think before we speak, act, or post  um but making a threat is not the same as posing   a threat we have to ask ourselves is the student  on a path towards an attack or did they make   that fleeting, transient threat, or is this more  substantive because there is plan means and intent   so really looking at those principles. In addition  um threat assessment is not designed to determine   whether the person has made a threat but whether  they pose a threat do we want to get to the truth   if they actually made the threat absolutely, but  we are truly trying to hone in

088on those substanstive of   threats of do they pose a threat to cause harm or  violence in the future and or have they already.   You want to avoid overreaction and  underreaction there are some students who   really want to share everything and our witnesses  and our families and or we find things sometimes   it's hard not to overreact but we have to maintain  composure and make sure that we are responding to   each and every comment that is made and or action,  um but we also don't want to underreact either we   want to make sure that if something was said or  done that we are reacting. We are always doing   this from a team approach It's always important  when you're going through something that can   be harmful that we have supportive measures in  place from the get. So if

089we know that we're   going into a full-blown threat assessment we are  ensuring that we have mental health professionals   in the room and or a designated safe person for  the student involved. We want to make sure   that if we need to we're notifying our district  team we're working and we'll talk about roles   and responsibilities in a future slide but if we  have to work with outside agencies such as law   enforcement we are doing so um but we want to make  sure this is never an individual decision so if we   get information from a staff member or whoever  we're not just deeming one way or another if   something happened and a threat was made and or  a threat is going to occur we want to make sure   that we are doing it from a team approach. We're 

090trying to figure out the why why would you say   that why would you do that why would you think  about that so we can prevent that from happening   the next time. Again that thinking before we speak,  act, and post that pause that's what we really want   to work on so then during that pause we can get  people what they need to feel like they don't   have to make a threat um and then again threat  assessment is not a disciplinary process it can   inform the disciplinary process but um it's  the very last page of the threat assessment   for a reason of how we respond and there are  numerous boxes and it's not just disciplinary.   Discipline is at the bottom we want to make sure  are the parents informed, you you know do we have   counseling, are

091there any outside agencies that  we can connect our students with. There's all   sorts of different responses that we could go  through and disciplinary action is just one of them. Okay so who's involved in a threat assessment and  who's involved depends on what type of threat was   made um and what that looks like in each building  so always there is an administrator involved on   the threat assessment team and usually that's  a principal or assistant principal in one of   the buildings that responsibility is for the  principal or assistant principal to lead the   team. We will sometimes involve a school resource  officer if that's indicated by the nature of the   threat that was made. So if a crime has been  committed or that we are very certain that   a crime may have been committed we will ask  the

092school resource officer to sit in to help   us go through the threat assessment process.  Mental health staff as Lindsay mentioned our   important especially for many of our students who  are in crisis and many of our students who might   be on case load they might have a case manager  who might want to sit in not necessarily a mental   health professional but somebody that they know is  a trusted professional in the building and we'll   have that person sit in because they know the  student well and they know what behaviors to look   for and what behaviors we might say okay that was  a little bit off for that student today and that   really doesn't fit any pattern of what we've seen  in the past. Optional team members might include a   a bus driver, a teacher, an aid, other

093staff, pretty  much anyone in the building who knows the student   well and can inform us um about the threat  assessment process. We may not need every single   team member in every single threat assessment  case these threat assessments take a long time,   they're very time consuming, they're very laborious,  but that's very intentional that's what our work   is to make sure that we get to um the right  determination of what happened and why um and   we were like I said We are continuing um to train  additional staff members I think next up will be   our special education staff to make sure that they  understand uh the threat assessment processes as well. Oh now I have to do both. It's tricky. Lindsay  mentioned Continuum of Threats and when we start   at the bottom there figures of speech or 

094jokes things are are really transcent and   those things happen often in school settings um  they often happen in the adult world figures of   speech are just sometimes taken literally  and then we don't really know what that   means. Jokes um fleeting expressions of anger  could happen if something happens in a school   setting and somebody just kind of um drops an F  bomb here and there, does that mean that we need   to conduct a threat assessment maybe maybe not.  Attention seeking boasting all of our students   um seek our attention for various reasons and  we want to make sure that that's a legitimate   need. We want to make sure that those needs are  met, but as we go up the Continuum of Threats   we're looking at attempts to intimidate  intimidate or frighten and then finally   a warning of

095impending violence and that  would indicate a substantive threat. Substantive.  Sorry, golly why do they have to name it that  because nobody can say it. Serious. Serious.   Very serious threat to Dr Dewey he didn't listen.  He didn't listen um so anyway there we go with   our Continuum of Threats and why we would do  a threat assessment uh for various reasons. Just screaming or having a tantrum is not a  threat, however we do often see depending on   the developmental age and or cognitive ability  that sometimes that tantrum can be paired with   I'm going to kill you or I'm going to kill so  and so. At times we still need to conduct a threat   assessment depending if that is the baseline  behavior of that student other times we understand   that that is their baseline and we will do

096a  threat assessment screener to determine that their   needs could be met with more individualized and or  specialized instruction so it's not the question   of whether the student expressed intent to cause  cause harm to someone that also needs to be   addressed as well because it is a behavior, however  it is are they going to carry out that threat as   well there is no magic formula or crystal ball  we have started numerous threat assessments that   we think okay this is going to be easy close shut  we're going to get our witness statements and move   on and address it as such and then you get more  information and then you get more information and   you're like okay now we're going to include our  school resource officer because now we're going   to need to do other things outside of

097school.  We're not trying to predict the future we're   trying to be preventative and make sure that we're  problem solving um and providing interventions and   those vary depending on the needs um so there's  no crystal ball unfortunately. Factors that we do   consider um I know we've mentioned a few of these  but the age of the student the capability of the   student to carry out the threat um every single  threat that involves a weapon we do have to ask,   do you have access? Does any other home that you  go to often have the ability for you to carry   out something with a weapon? We don't just stop  at are there guns in your home? We have to dig a   little bit deeper and ask more follow-up questions  because we know that students share spaces with   all sorts

098of different people and we need to make  sure those spaces are safe as well. We do look at   the students disciplinary history, the credibility  of the student, and the willingness to acknowledge   their behavior. A lot of times our hope is that  they come in and they say yep I did it, I shouldn't   have, I regret it, and so that's part of our key  observations when we're doing a threat assessment   and if we don't see those key observations we're  digging more giving them additional opportunities   because sometimes talking to a team of people  and starting that threat assessment process   can be overwhelming and so sometimes we got to  pause, we got to go back to it sometimes students   come back the next day and we're still in that you  know portion of the threat assessment and we

099have   with us that have also talked to their students  and said okay we've got to open up, we've got to   tell them everything, and so it it goes on and on  but we also want to make sure that we are getting   all the information. The credibility of the  witness accounts, so it's not just the person who   made the threat it's all the witnesses involved  and then having access again to weapons and or   possessing a weapon, but when in doubt treat all  threats is substantive and go from there, so you   may start thinking that it's very serious and then  you realize okay, okay, all right we're going to   keep going, um but we treat all of them seriously  and we look into everything that is provided to us. You want me keep going? Okay just gonna

100keep  rolling. So research Dr. Dewey very well-renowned   uh rooted in research and evidence-based.  This is an evidence-based tool. We use   the same tool across buildings, we ask the  same questions, we ask different follow-up   questions depending on what information is  provided to us, we're looking at the same key   observations, we're looking at the same list  of responses to a threat, but keeping in   mind that all of this is based in the fact  that 99% of threats are not carried out. 1%   of students are expelled. 1% are arrested. They  have seen a decrease in suspension rates um when   using this tool. Racial disparities have been  reduced and are absent. Counseling is used   more often. There's a plug if we can ever  get any more counselors, there's your plug   um and then a more positive school climate. So

101once  students have been a part of this process and know   that it's lengthy and it's a team and oh my gosh  now I'm sitting at a table and I'm having to talk   to all these people, they start getting word out  okay you can't say stupid stuff anymore or you   can't do stupid stuff as we say, we're not stupid  but dumb. Right? And so that it gets out there that   you know this is a process we are taking these  things serious we do have a list of questions,   we partner with families I have conducted numerous  threat assess assments that the family was with us   the entire time, we have paused on our questioning  and they say okay we want to be there, okay we're   not going to shy away from that. Here's what we  have,

102come in, and join us, and the parents are a   part of that process and they are actually pretty  helpful when they do come in and help us, it's not   always the case but we do and you know we don't  shy away from that. All right so what are our next   steps? We want to increase the amount of staff  trained. We have gone through we've shown our staff   what the document looks like. We show that there  is quite a process for this. We've also shown   them what we use as a threat assessment screener  again looking at that student's individual needs   to see if we do need to do a full-blown threat  assessment or address um the needs in another   way, so those are our goals and I'm sure you have  questions. We might. Thank you for

103your great report   on substance substantive threats. We had to look  up the Google pronunciation and actually add it   to our slide deck for our training. Awesome. So  if there are any board members with questions.   If you if you can provide uh you know succinct  answers that's great and if you know it'll take   longer to get the answer please just record the  question and I know you'll get back to us all thanks. I I don't have much but um couple  things I'm better put my glass on um   I like the idea of the prevention. I think  prevention not crisis I think I like that um   and then also and you can think about this  and even email back but are there any state   laws that are hindering your work in this or  that need to be

104adjusted or changed because   there there's a lot of the uh Why Meadow Died book and stuff there's a lot of things about   state laws that were hindering the schools on  what to do and so forth. So I'm just kind of   curious if there's state laws out there  that we might have to look at? Thank you. I'm I'm sorry I so you're going to respond to  that perhaps later okay? Yes. We have either   of the oh Brad? Okay. Could just go down that's  fine um so I guess a couple of things kind of   like are light bulb things for me if you want to  write them down it's perfectly fine with me um so   you know one of the things I think about this and  I see this through the lens of a teacher because   that's

105what I do on a day and day basis is that  like how equipped do you think our staff is with   regards to reporting and then follow through on  the reporting and so that's the first thing and   then the second thing is I would want your expert  opinion at some point about our policies and our   procedures and even our consistency between  buildings about how we do a threat assessment   and how we carry out and the language we use and  the information we disseminate and then the last   thing I could tell you that as an educator could  be really a challenge is like and I'm going to   speak freely for a moment FERPA law almost makes  us like afraid, to like, that we can't talk about   what's happening but at the same time we have to  find

106a balance also with being able to disseminate   information so that we can alleviate concerned  individuals in our building, concerned teachers, staff,   students, etc. So I guess I would want you to you  know speak to like that balance that happens   and how how really that is a difficult thing to  navigate. Absolutely. So if you want to talk about   any of that now or you can talk about it later  but thank you. To answer later? No. As   the leaders in this work um we often have other  administrators call us and say okay I just want   to make sure I'm finding the correct document, I'm  using the right tool, all right now what am I doing,   all right, these are the questions I asked and I  have I have some follow-up questions great ask   those follow-up questions. So

107they're contacting  Carol or I if we have questions we are going to   our Core team and making sure that we're all on  the same page and that we're addressing the needs   the same way depending on what actually occurs  during this. That's when we disseminated a team   of figuring out that communication piece. You know, in the past we've had sixth grade classrooms that   were entirely impacted by the word choices of  others and we needed to communicate out with all   of those families for those two classrooms, other  times we've found the need to communicate with   the entire building. It depends on the situation,  so that's that grey lan like we wish we had like   a phone tree that we could follow each and every  time and we have that tool here but figuring out   those after pieces

108of communications is up to  the discretion, but also with the the premise   of we need to foster relationships with our staff  and our students and our families we have trusting   relationships with our staff. They know in both  of our buildings that if you have questions open   door policy we're going to communicate with  you as quickly as we can but we need to be   factual. We cannot provide misinformation we need  to make sure that we have all the facts before we   communicate out, but with that prevention piece we  want to ensure that if there is a student in need   that our teaching team and anyone else that shares  space with that student knows, hey handle with care,  in addition here's what we're dealing with if you  have follow-up questions please communicate that   with us so we

109can address them. I will add too Mr.  Gerbe that um if you are concerned about FERPA   there is an anonymous tool that is really powerful and  that's called, Okay to Say, and you can report any   threat or any uh anything that you feel concerned  about where you like to do that anonymously um   you can identify the student or not just say  this happened in this building um and then we   will get that information and we will know how  to handle it. And we're communicating that with   our students just in the last couple weeks I've  been responding to Okay to Says and they'll name   somebody involved. So I start with that person,  because it's where I can start, and I pull the   kids in. They're like oh oh yeah that was me,  I submitted that Okay

110to Say. I said I truly   don't know, I truly don't know, when you submit it  the State of Michigan doesn't know when it goes   through their call system, and/or their answering  system. We don't know because it truly is anonymous   however this is the information provided and this  is where we could start. So the kids are starting   to hear too like really no you can you can see  my screen I don't know who submitted it. Yeah I   I just I want to make sure I reiterate that idea  of that just it is a delicate and I understand   understand what you're saying and it is a delicate  balance afterwards about being able to to share   out, right? We want to be able to tell as much  as we can but we want to respect the privacy of  

111individuals and that is a difficult thing to walk  and I appreciate you guys like going through the   training I appreciate you going out to the police  training. I thought that that was going to be very   worthwhile, I'm glad to hear that it was, um and but  uh boy like this is never like you said crystal   ball is never easy and I appreciate your efforts.  When in doubt we tell our staff come to us, don't   hesitate, text, call, come to our offices if you have  that weird feeling and you think something is awry. That's where we enact a team even if a threatening  statement wasn't made or a threatening act wasn't   made. If you've got this feeling of hey I saw  them search something but I don't know if I   actually saw it get another team

112member involved  so we can follow up with it and make sure the kid   is being supported. No I was just going to say I  know that you mentioned that you know sometimes   it's a good lesson to be learned that our words  have power and that we need to um be mindful of   that and and recognize that and sometimes  that's um you know comes with maturity and   so I appreciate um the education that's also going  along with this and sometimes the firm but but but   loving education that's happening with that. I  will say that the other piece of this is that um   it's also providing tools and resources  to families that might be in crisis and   um I know that in my own experience in a public  school setting that the connection to community   mental health

113and the mental health providers in  the community is sometimes um I I won't say like   out of reach for families, but in crisis it's not  it's not the first thing they're thinking of. So   having somebody who has um who has that calm  and um I want to say procedural knowledge of   how to make those connections is saving lives. So  I appreciate the work that you're doing, and I   appreciate the way that it's being uh disseminated  um I I do wonder about um and maybe you can speak   to this, but um I worry a little bit like as I  want more people to be trained but I don't want   it to be diluted um and so how I think maybe the  documentation or the tools that you're using but   how can we ensure that you know

114the two of you  had the training from the source and now you're   training others. So how can we make sure that the  integrity of the tools and the and the systems um remain. Before I forget I'm just want to offer the  students a chance if you have anything you want   to add if not that's fine. Just before that I  have a question for um like the social media as   aspect for the substant substantive um threats  for the social media how do you um like pick up   on that as a substantive threat? Cause like if  they're posting it once it could be seemed   as uh the just the first word threat and  then the how yeah and then how do you pick   up that's like a line and how do you know  that it's not just

115the one threat it's the   substantive? It's a really good question Mateo and  we don't know. We do hear um honestly you folks   are are first informance you see social media a  lot more frequently than we do. I don't spend   hours and hours on X or Instagram or wherever  just looking at your accounts. That's just not   my that's kind of creepy, but you guys tell us what  you hear, what you see, what you feel. You can post   that up on Okay to Say, you can do whatever you  want to do, and then let us determine whether or   not it's a credible threat. Serious one. Yes keep  in mind that typically social media stuff happens   in the middle of the night and so we trust that  our students and families are going to work with   us. So

116example being there was a threat made on  social media it was Snap so it only lives for   24 hours, it it lives much longer than that get  that word out too. Once it's out there it's out   there and so 11 o'clock at night, I'm getting a  phone call from a family, um well they emailed,   I called, and I said we have to contact the police.  Police made sure it wasn't a substantive threat   right away, because the principals were not going  out at 11 o'clock at night. And then we went right   into a threat assessment with the family involved  the very next morning, because we needed to ensure   that yes, you caused harm with your actions. Did  it end up being a substantive threat? No, however   we we took it as such because we didn't know.

117So  going back to that objective you think worst case   scenario, but then you make make sure you get the  information to see is this going to be worst case scenario. I just simply wanted to say thank  you for the care and attention you take to   this very very sobering topic. I value you  both in this um and thank you and Carol and I   know how many years you've been involved with  this thank you very much um and fully and and   fully support um you know the training um to keep  both our staff and our students um safe you know   you mentioned Sandy Hook Promise earlier  in the um in the the slide deck uh and less   we forget that it was staff and students  that were affected so it's important thank you. Yes um so

118you mentioned helping a person  in distress, responding to crisis, and providing   support um Lindsay um under what situation  would a staff member use physical means to   manipulate a child, you know whether it's  physical restraint, physical prompting, or   dumping an unresponsive child out of their chair?  I'll get back to you with my response thank you. How um how are students followed over time?  So you know if you have someone who like how   how do you ensure institutional um memory? So  the kids move from school to school within   the district outside of the district. How do  you make sure that you know without invading   someone's privacy or sort of tagging them as being  dangerous, on the other hand like the uh there's   a balance there of trying to know if something  is a repeated threat as kids

119move through the   system. So uh are there procedures? Is that sort of  case by case? How do we how do we follow the kids   as they develop and how do you move past the in  the moment you know there's crisis in the moment   and then something happens but finding that  long-term mental health care and continuing to   follow those kids over time as they develop seems  like it would be quite a challenge but also really   important. Sure you have posed lots of questions  there, I will try to answer as many as I can. So   first and foremost um there is a paper trail  that follows every student it's an electronic   paper trail, housed in our um log entries within  PowerSchool so it just is a simple pull down menu   that says a threat assessment has been

120conducted  that's all it says so that flags a teacher or an   administrator to go look further on what it was  that was done and what the determination was on   that threat assessment what the outcome was. So  that is usually then the paper part of that is   usually housed in the students cumulative educational record which is in the uh usually in the   office, in each building, uh it's different, so it's  in the students personal personal file. Getting   them help and following up on help and those kinds  of things um actually I will say um we have a new   program in the county called Care Solace. Where're  going to be able to refer students out and have   them get some help, quicker than we have been able  to do in the past. Mental Health Resources as   you

121know are just stretched so thin Washtenaw County,  pretty pretty much everywhere so getting kids   help and getting kids help immediately is not  necessarily something that we've been able to   do in the past, I'm hopeful that our new program  through Care Solace will allow us that flexibility   able to get kids some some help like right now. We also have help available in each building so   not as many counselors as we would like obviously  but social workers are available, behavior threat   assessment people are available, and um obviously  administrators are available to help students um   with their challenges with their crises. So yes  following a student consistently is going to be   a challenge for lots of years but I think if we  use our new systems, I think we're in in a much   better spot than we have

122been in the past. I would  add to that that we don't want to get in the um   habit of branding students and so having just  a a notation to look further and then looking   at the documentation that's in the file will give  that well-rounded approach in all of the details   because it is hard to capture that in just a  paragraph right it could sound really bad when   something was actually just a kid in crisis that  needed help. So going to that file and having okay   all the things that actually occurred through  that process to support the kid is important as well. Well I would like to thank both of you  for your presentation I really I appreciated   that um and release you from the grip of  the board. Miss Stemmer. Mmhmm. You have a   30

123minute presentation coming up or so? No, 45. Because what I'd like to. No, 10 minutes. Okay because I   was going to recommend that we perhaps take a  brief recess since we've been at this for two   hours and we're we're unaccustomed to to  to that. All right then that's fine if so   without objection I'd like to have a five or  so minute break, thank you so much. Thank you. Now, we're back on thank you very much. Thank  you for uh thank you for accommodating our need for a brief break I appreciate it greatly.  Let me introduce please um Kara Stemmer who   is int I don't know what to call you. Let let how  about you introduce yourself to us? What hat should   I wear tonight? No so I'm Kara Stemmer I'm the  Director of the South and

124West Washtenaw Consortium um   some people refer to the position as a principal  um but at the end of the day I just help oversee   I say help because it takes a village um I help  oversee all 23 of our Career and Tech Ed Programs.   As you can see on the screen we're from fall or  early winter and kind of gave you just a little   you know a few touch points about the Consortium,  but I'll be here I'm here to share a few more   in-depth um highlights of our program. So thank  you for the invite um it's kind of feels like a   CTE night as we honored some of our staff and you  know I I tend to be emotional when I talk about   student success or program success so I apologize  in advance if I

125get emotional behind it because   I I you know I got to embrace it, because I can't  fight it, so that's just how how it works. Anyway   and I just I'd be remiss not to introduce Emily  Koch um she is the Business Coordinator from our   office and she we don't survive without Emily  you can ask any one of our teachers, anyone of   anyone in the high school, um she helps run the  Consortium, so I'm going to lean on her for some   historical knowledge in case there's something  that is asked and I can't because obviously I'm   just finishing my first year in this role. So  okay, oh what happened, there we go I was talking   too long and it already stalled. On the screen  we have pictures and and we yeah um passionate   Drew Miller in the

126marketing class yeah so we put  this on the on in the um PowerPoint because this   really captures the narrative of CTE um and it's  two fold so Adam Rodriguez's class his Advanced   Photography Class was charged with going out and  capturing some photos that share what CTE is and   super proud of these so proud that we were given  we asked if can we give you a new challenge um   him and his kids. So we have they have printed  these photos on canvases and um stretched them,   built the frame and they have provided us about  23, 24 by 36 canvases, that are going to line   our hallway in the um CTE the SWWC hallway. So  I certainly invite you to do a gallery walk um   next time you're at the high school because  it's certainly a point

127of pride um for many reasons. We did invite Drew in and I said Drew  you're going to be forever marked on our um   hanging on our wall, but uh yeah so good stuff.  This is a little bit of a repeat um we had our   Open House in November and it really really  was a start of our recruitment campaign.    We had about a thousand people attend we had 30  about 34 businesses that signed up to join us. The   intent of the night was to take or was to invite  new students, potential new students or current   students, and come and just really see our program,  talk with industry professionals, you know if my   student enrolls in one of these classes what does  that look like for their future, um extremely proud   of of what that night

128looked like and um more or  less just because so many people were involved.   So it really showcased the talent of all of our  programs um starting from Danielle Phelps who's   obviously we all know her culinary talent um she  they her team put on the dinner, and Mr Rodriguez's   class made the brochures, um Mateo can speak to um  working with Mr Brehmer in the Entrepreneurship   Business and Accounting class and being like  the project managers for the night um and   let's see even down to our Welding and our  Building Trades programs made products to be   sold or auctioned off in the silent auction. So  it really encompassed the entire um CTE family   and what we can do and provide for for our um  community. And then I guess I I also need to   mention because I know

129in class with Mateo the Saline  Chamber of Commerce we had them help mentor some   of our students uh which I think is a skill set  in itself working with adults and communicating   and teaching them those real world communication  skills and so some some of the members would come   in and just kind of have a touch point with the  students, what's going on, what you know, provides   suggestions. So I thought that was super special  too and so I just want to thank them as well   for their help in the event. Let's see so the  next we just kind of move on, oh there's a picture   of it, um fun night I think overall. Feels like  forever ago uh but and then we're moving on to enrollment   and it has been I'm living I I was told

130CTE from  you know the office standpoint is cyclical and it   certainly is, because like here we are. I full we're  coming full circle to I feel like we just started   the school year, and now we're talking about  next year, so here we are with our enrollment   um and this is specific to Saline only and all  of our classes are on the left side and then our   current enrollment trend um is on the right, and so  this is very fluid. I want to just be transparent   with that uh right now we have students still  building or they haven't even started building   their actual schedule yet for next year. So this  you know sometimes a student will have an epiphany   oh I didn't know Marketing was a CTE class and I  had to apply for it. So

131there's just a lot of that   conversation going on, so again these numbers um  well it's still kind of live right now if you will   Emily just said this morning she you know added  three kids, so this I expect to change in the still   in the next couple months so but we're excited the  trend um we had about a thousand applications this   year very similar to last year, so it obviously  we all know that CTE is a voice right now and a   movement and excited to be a part of that and  continue to um work in the in that field and   pushing kids. And then let's see so exciting news  I mean free money is always exciting to talk about   uh so it's our third time for um receiving the  Grant the 61(c)1 Grant. This year

132uh we are awarded $263,000, significant um one just example, so Adam  Rodriguez's class had an 80 maybe even $88,000   printer um copier, piece of equipment that I  don't know how we would have replaced that   other than this grant. So very intentional with  what we tried to um ask teachers for big ticket   items so that we could replace things that you  know maybe we couldn't do without this grant, so   but I all of this stuff is coming in as we speak  um um it's super exciting to train the teachers   on it and then obviously pass that scale over to  the students. A staffing update because I've seen   that posted places, um and obviously we've heard of  the retirements tonight. We in the spring when   I met with the six superintendants we approved um  a new Culinary

133Arts teacher an additional let me   go back an additional culinary I want to preface  that Danielle Phelps is going nowhere um she is   staying put, but we just there has been a surplus  of applicants and um which is an awesome thing, we   always have way too many applications for culinary  which um we are now going to hire an additional   culinary arts so Danielle will focus more on  the baking and the culinary arts teacher will   focus more on the cooking and we added additional  seats to the Consortium so now we can run the two   programs simultaneously or concurrently. The David  Mellor's job um yeah it's going to be hard to fill   I'm going to lean on him to um you know help so  we have interviews scheduled for this Friday, um   we have the the panel

134ready to go and we're just  going to um you know hope and and find somebody   that can carry on the legacy that David has  established with the program. Automotive teacher   uh you will probably hear on the agenda we have  a candidate that we have endorsed, um excited and   I hope that um I hope to see him um soon, because  he he's going to be a great, um you know Tim Timoszyk  fully supports the hire so that means I think  more we got to lean on him too to kind of give   us guidance on what he's looking for to take over  the huge program, and then Cosmetology Technician   so we have our HVBA um the Huron Valley Beauty  Academy we have a a techn a technician leaving   next week or May 3rd and he's return he's

135going  into nursing so we hope maybe he comes back one   day and like helps with our nursing program, but  anyway um we have recommended a candidate to HR   and we're hopeful to get that position filled. Lots  going on kind of feels like a full-time job but um   we're going to get through and I'm my my goal is  to like leave um you know come June we're done   and I can start helping and training and mentoring  our new staff. And then this this to me like I love   information I love data and it kind of speaks to  um just just how powerful and impactful Career and   Technical Education is and hence the Consortium  so this I just pulled this off the Michigan State   website this is our follow-up service so one task  that teachers are given

136is within a year, listen up   Mateo within a year of graduating you're going to  they're going to hear from us and we're going to   ask them to complete a survey um if they don't  fill it out we hit the parents, we hit siblings,   like we want as many people to validate um what  we're looking for so um this these are the results   of our follow-up survey um 32,000 uh students  took it responded which is about 87% 86% % which   is good the key here that I want to highlight and  which I think is awesome sometimes you're sitting   in class and a student says when am I ever  going to use what I'm learning and 72% of our   students say write out 6 months after graduating  they're using the skills they learned in our in   our

137classes, whether they're in college whether  they're on the job, whatever they're doing they're   utilizing those skills. So you heard some of the  students talk about it's more than the curriculum   life skills job, interview skills, even down to like  getting a professional outfit for the first time   um this is where I get emotional because it's  I'm just I'm so proud to like play that role   in students lives because if it's not coming from  home and you know someone's got to step up and and   these programs are super impactful for our kids.  And then speaking of that so on the left-and side   32,000 students are enrolled in some CTSO so some  Career Technical Student Organization so hence FFA   um skills USA 32,000 and you know I I can just  attest I had a student that competed at

138the   national level and wrote her college essay about  it and um you know so it gives them a purpose and   it creates this narrative that you know it's  more than just going to a meeting, I mean this   changes lives, and as you heard from many people  obviously tonight that's all I have to say it's   the why. So this extracurricular opportunity  gives students a purpose to you know compete   and just build relationships outside of  the classroom, and then on the right hand side   um I'll just speak quickly about credentialing  so the state is really highlighting, like what   can we do to set our kids up for success and set  them, like what's their competitive advantage and   so the state says credentialing so every one of  our um Career and Technical Education, our state   certified programs, has

139to uh offer some type of  credential which means it has to just be offered   not every student has to take it um but in other  words when they leave our classes what is one like   stamp of approval, so for example and it has to be  industry industry recognized and state approved so   like Culinary for their Serve Safe like that is an  industry standard credential so if a student was   to leave the program and go apply at a restaurant, you know they that gives them that competitive   advantage and I think that in itself is powerful  um and so in a few in a year maybe two years all   of our programs, but right now they're weaning  as as classes of programs are transitioning from   Perkins 4 to Perkins 5 that's a requirement now,  so I'd say

140almost half of our programs are under   Perkins 5, hence the requirement. And then I'm  going to stop here, and this is where I'm going   to say this is where you can help. So work based  learning, I I know right so I'm it's going to be my   narrative for like ever because I'm on this huge  push I say before I retire I want to create this   opportunity for students to get out in industry  and like experience what that job looks like,   and so whatever they're you know let's help them  have a plan so when they walk over the st stage at   graduation, they have an idea of what they want to  do, obviously those that are going on college, it's   expensive, um even getting a job like where do we  want to put forth our efforts

141and that's what CTE   does. So work-based learning is another push by the  state and you see four quadrants the bottom left   one is like the highest level, so this is where I  want all of our students at um all of our being   a State Certified program we have like we have  to meet certain rules if you will and provide   proof at the end of every year. So um you know  teachers have to have guest speakers they have   to go on field trips they have to somehow bridge  the gap from industry to you know classrooms, but   that bottom left quadrant highlights um the  highest level of like student engagement and   so apprenticeships, internships, like getting  students out there, so it's not just a one-h   hour experience it's a maybe they're going out for  two week and

142following this person on their job   and I don't know what that looks like but that's  like I feel like there's value, it's powerful. I've   talked to people that have experience this and  it's determined what they want it to do. So if   you own a job, if you own a company or if you are  in any type of corporation where you say yeah you   know what I want to help mentor a student, I want  to help guide them, I want to be a partner with   the school. I would highly encourage you to get  in contact with me, because we need you. I would   love to offer every student and help guide them  to to find that partnership, so that they can um   get out into um the community and you know they've  learned the skill. Now

143let's have them implement   that skill. Let's see so I can kind of just end  this you know obviously I could speak hours about   the value of CTE um and how it just aligns with  so many things, I think we've heard a lot about the   why. I mean just from the the people at the podium  tonight I just want to thank you for the opportunity.  Again I it it's leaving the classroom where I  taught it for 12 years, now I'm helping teachers   and and it's inspiring and it's and I'm  you know I'm hoping the students feel it   that we're passionate and I I was going to end  with one quote because I think it's so magical.   It's by a, her name's Gabrielle Bernstein and  she's a New York Times bestseller but her quote   was, "allow your

144passion to become your purpose  and it will one day become your profession." So   again "allow your passion to become your purpose  and it will one day become your profession" and   I think that's what we're taking the kids they  we're finding we're finding what their passion is,   giving them purpose, and then taking them out and  saying you can make a life doing this, and that's   what we're here to help guide you that's what  I have for you and I didn't cry thank you very much.   Okay, questions? Anything? Well if I can just  say first thank you Kara and Emily I appreciate   that. So Emily you're going to be speaking for the  next five minutes? No, that's okay I don't I didn't   know if I I I could legally have her stand up  here cuz she wasn't

145on the agenda, so I was like   just be here if I if anybody has questions. So  um oh. Yes please do. Trustee Austin would like to   lead off with a question I just I just have to  say I love the South West Washtenaw Consortium   and all it does for all our kids and and we do  see like well they spoke about it today how it   helps them they they go to these events and  they're they're so much further advanced than   the other students I see it with my son and  his college stuff and um yeah is it is great   and so many kids too that don't maybe want to  go off to college, I mean there's good paying   jobs in this and and that's really exciting so  I think this is a jewel of Saline.

146Yeah thank you. I I don't have a question but I just want to  say thank you to Mrs. Stemmer for everything she's   done for the SWC because I've been in Accounting  and Entrepreneurship and then Marketing with Miss   Stemmer and last year was a lot a blast and with  the and I like how sorry all the clubs that are   with all the um Consortium classes I find that  really cool because it gives the people a group   and find a common interest among individuals that  want to pursue something and with that quote at   the end, I really like that because ultimately  the SWWC classes have follow my passion for   business and then is something I want to pursue  in the future so that quote was super cool and   thank you. Well said sir. Thank you Mateo. Mr.

147Gerbe. Okay um first of all I want to say to you Miss   Stemmer that I have heard incredible things about  this transition and how incredible you are and so   thank you for your diligence and work. I am an  incredibly supportive individual also of of these   students and you know I I I hear you talk about  credentialing and I think about like that's the AP   exam right like these students 72% of them right  are credentialed or they're ready to go right they   are ready to work in our businesses, in our places  like these are good prospects for jobs, so I'm   going to give my own little plug to the work based  program because I am all behind you on that um all   the way. So I have two questions and are this so  you talked about

148$263,000 that was allocated being   a a grant so my first thing is can you give me a  quick like synopsis of how that grant process goes   and then like you said we've had multiple years  in a row. Is that a normal amounts? That's my first   question unless you or do you want to do them one  at a time? No that's I can. Yep go for it. And   then we are moving our Cosmetology program over  to SMS. I'm just wondering how like that planning   process is going and and all of that  because I'm really excited for those students and   those families, so. Absolutely um and I might lean  on um Emily a little bit but the grant so we're on   our third year of it is it not I mean I wouldn't  say it's normal, and

149it might be coming again this   year. So we don't know for sure and Ryan Rowe is the  one that applied for it, you know through last year   and at the ISD so now that he's at the WISD he's now  allocating and disseminating you know the funds   to the appropriate districts um so it's for you  know nonmileage based counties and so as long as we're   you know not on a vocational millage we can apply  for that grant. So and when that changes then the   money stops you know but it's there's obviously  other ways of being funded do you want to speak   to anything. Do you think I I think covered it okay?  Okay um so anyway that's and is it a normal amount?   I mean I think it was a little less this year than  it

150was last year, is that true. It varies year to   year um it depends on how many um applicants  there are, how much the total money available   is. Right, yeah. It's they do um require that  we place we spend 50% of the funds in the   top five um state programs um so that's that's  how that was chosen this year. So which I was   yeah so um you know oh yep so cosmetology it's  ironic us because we sat on part I sat in our   meeting on the design of that, um I think that's  obviously super exciting um it's going well.   I just spoke to Elaine Sines the instructor tonight,  and I just said like well done with doing the   homework, um I know the architect the the team  I the architects and you know the engineers   and

151so forth just said it's one of the easier  transitions of you know planning things out   and I just say that's because of Steve Lucas and  Elaine Sines for doing the the the back you know the   background on it and saying this is what we would  love and then I think it's just I I can't say it   enough like we need to be mimicking what's going  out in industry what's going on in industry to   our classroom so that we're setting these kids  up for success. So like they are creating that   environment to you know duplicate what they would  find in a salon and just making that transition   smooth for when those kids so they f feel fully  prepared when they go out to their jobs yeah, super   exciting thank you. Okay I was fine until you

152said  cross the stage so I'm [Laughter] gonna uh as you   all know Drew is in the SWWC and I will say that,  I'm sorry, it's been the most influential um class   that he's taken um and that's saying a lot, because  he's had a lot of really great classes and great teachers. Prior to your class last year I  don't think Drew knew what he wanted to do or   who he really was um I think initially he thought  he wanted to be president and I'm glad he's not   still pursuing that path um um we kind of joke  about that but I do think that when he joined   marketing he found his passion, as you mentioned,  and um the experiences that you um started   and that have continued this year through the  marketing class but also through DECA

153have just   set his course. He's going to Internationals  on Saturday I'm driving him to the airport I did   say I think Mrs. stemmer should be getting up at 5:00  in the morning to drive you to the airport, but I'm   going to do it. Many years I have many years I've  been on that trip. I know you have. I know you have um, but I I   think that um you know many of the things that  that have impacted him have been the day-to-day   experience experiences in the classroom, his DECA  experiences, the field trips, and I will say that   the connections you've made through through  your alumni even have um really allowed him to   see where his passion is um that field trip he is  not a Lions fan. Much to my husband's um dismay, he   is

154a Packer fan and uh that is always exciting on  Thanksgiving um but uh that field trip really um   really impressed him and really started having him  think about the possibilities for his future so   he is um in the business college next to year at  Youngstown State and he's pursuing a degree in   marketing with a minor in um social media and  campaigns and so um that started that started   with you. Drew was recently asked who the  most influential people in his life are and   he did not say his mom and dad, although maybe he  said that went without saying but. That's obvious   just for the record, they never give us any credit.  He said Mrs. Stemmer, Mrs. Mailloux, and Mrs Warren. So I   just thank you for the way that you poured into  him the way

155that the program has grown. He could   have graduated this semester uh trimester early,  he could have left um and he did not because of   marketing, so um because of you he's also enjoying  Mrs. Timoskyz one more semester and trimester in   Pottery also and apparently she said excelling  there too. So um it's just been a great experience   I I know I heard from the students tonight um in  every single um classroom um we heard from those   tonight too but it really the SWWC um I don't  even know that we know the full impact and I just   think that we see alumni coming back, we see um  we just see like the tentacles of of what started   here so thank you for continuing to pour into our  students and especially for Drew. Thank you. It's   very very

156meaningful. Yeah I my own daughter's  in three of the classes. I mean that's how much I   believe in it, like you know talk about hands-on  and just getting that again when you're sitting   in an interview with somebody sitting next to  you what's going to differentiate you and you   have a story to tell like you I I led something, I  did something, I you know it's just it's impactful   and we like you're we just don't know but glad he  enjoyed the Ford Field trip and like I you know, I   have students working out in in you know for the  Lions and so that's that connection and we talked   about doing a DECA like you know reunion and then  networking what an awesome networking opportunity   for the last 12 years to bring all these people  together so

157good luck to Drew. Oh I'll just say to   Youngstown does not have a DECA um program. Drew is  planning on starting it the business college is   does not have classes on Friday so he is taking  that up as his Friday project. So he might be   coming back to get in touch with you one last  thing that I did not want to forget I'm glad I   wrote it down can you tell us about um because  you know I love school-based enterprise after   I read the 23 page paper and edited it. So  can you tell us about the upcoming sale and how   the community can have access to um that sale to  support these projects yeah thanks so um the SBE   also known School Based Enterprises also known as  The Edge so um we're on our like

158it's a cycle so   it's a five-year cycle. So the first year this is  a DECA event a national event so a lot of students   get excited because they can write this paper  and really like um talk about the operations of   running a small business um and so yeah like every  aspect of it and so the first year is you have to   talk about like maybe eight different segments  all the way down to like selling and promotion   and operations and hiring and all of that but then  every year after that they choose three standards   that you have to write and then it starts over  so like the first group that gets year the first   year like they're charged with writing like an  80 page paper and so they're like oh man you know   they got gypped

159because the next person only has  to write like a 20 page or 25 but nevertheless um   yep so that that's The Edge and May 6 I believe  is the event, and it's going to be held out at the   stadium. Again I that's another one going to  be one of my passion projects is maybe looking at   trying to get an off-site location for The Edge. I think that's another opportunity um to have a   store front in our community since there really  is not a lot of competition um so that's kind of   like I saw this role as, hey this is where I see  I saw the need in the classroom and now I can  execute and make that happen um and then just build  community around that I think the community would   support that and so

160it is a little cumbersome  to check in at the school and you know come in   and people don't know, I don't want to see my kid, I  don't want them to see me, blah blah blah, but if we   had some type of um store front in the um community  I think that would be successful but May 6. I I   should know the time yeah. 1:00 to 7:00, we have  the flyer yeah on our desk, 1 to 7 but come out and   support um we're looking, yep, get some great Saline  swag, and yeah support an awesome program. I might   be biased but. Little bit. I we keep running into  each other out out and about and your your folks   have come to EMU recently Vasilof was joining them  and uh I and there there are other

161grants that are   out there and we've been you and I talked about  the Bessie Hoffman uh Facility as well so we'll   we'll keep that conversation going and if I have  questions I know where to find her. Yes thank you. Love the storefront and the community idea  as you know we have some storefronts that   could use right use some occupants um I know  nothing about rent or anything like that but   I think that that's a fabulous idea because um  it is under served in our community and I always   see people posting where do you get the Hornets  gear and and I think it would be wonderful and   and what better type of project than a school  in a city to partner in support of students   and it is hard for for people to get into the 

162the school and we want to be safe and things.   So love that idea um I love the work-based  learning idea. This is incredibly important   um it happens in college too of course um so  support it there I think it dove tales nicely   with um a point that Steve was making last  night at the Superintendent uh Circle Dinner   about uh internships or maybe Jackie, Jackie  maybe you made that, one of you made it, okay.   Whoever said it it was a great idea um and  I think it reminds me of the conversation   um because I was at your meeting last week and  in my breakout we were really talking about how   um they wanted more speakers in the classrooms. People who were actually doing the work um of the   courses and coming to share those experience and 

163storytell with the students and that's the perfect compliment to   then open the door into the businesses for the  speaker, so when they come and you have someone   from XYZ company and it's in CAD or you know  whatever and then that's perhaps the entree   into that partnership for work-based learning. So I  would just encourage you to think about how do you   um how do you publicize the need for speakers and  and what um what talents and um disciplines you're   looking for and then begin to build that really um  strong funnel uh for your network. Yeah thank you. Hi um I'm sorry I couldn't be fully present  tonight um this is one of uh the presentations   that I really look forward to and have a passion  about so um I would like to follow up later with  

164you okay thank you, thank you. Thanks. Thank you for  all your work I really enjoyed seeing the your   presentation and the teachers retiring it sort of  was an advertisement for like you you could play   it in your um careers and educ, you could play  it in uh your careers and education um because   I mean what an impact that's the kind of thing  you can't testimonials. Yeah, that's the kind of   you can't there's, there's no price you can pay on  that kind of life changing um education and those   educators so anyways thank you. Bravo. Well thanks  for honoring them tonight. It fit in perfectly for   um for our little discussion here so I appreciate  that and I just want to go on record for saying   thank you to everyone um the transition from the  classroom to

165administration. So thank you. Lots of   people that have had my back um countless reasons  and I feel very comfortable going to anyone in   asking any question, so I just want to say thank  you. Good. Thank you very much again appreciate it. [Applause] Most presenters rarely get applause but well  done. I'm going to hand, I'm going to hand the uh   the gavel so to speak over to uh Secretary  Miller who is also the Chair of the Policy   Committee and and we're working on the second  readings of these policies. So um we do need to   um probably as a Policy Committee start there  and then move forward but um there is some um   question about first reading, second reading,  action item, discussion item, etc., so uh the way   that it fell for this meeting is that it 

166is the second reading um uh of these four   policies that are up for consideration a and um  should someone feel moved to motion for them to   be considered, that can happen tonight under  action um but they are discussion items for   now, if not they will be uh action items if  approved tonight for uh or if there's no um   motion tonight, um they will be action items on  the next agenda. So first uh any questions about   the four policies that were on um discussion  for the last meeting and our um second readings tonight? I I can do it too as part of I mean  whatever Brad you want to do it doesn't matter   or Lauren? I'd like to please make a a motion  to approve the following policies um as an Action   Item for this evening

167Policy 5113, Policy 8300,  Policy 0141.1 and policy 6152. I support that.   Thank you Susan. And I would just add now that  it's been approved to discuss that um it I think   it it to Jenny's point it is a good thing to kind  of discuss but um these seem clean, no comments   so I think there's no reason to move forward  with the business of the district if we can, thanks. Thank you all right so I guess you're President so you   call for the vote on the motion. Well I  I hearing no further discussion um all   in favor please say I. I.. Opposed? Great  thank you very much. Policy Committee and Board. Just for my own records who moved  and who seconded? All right, thank you.   Great. Administration Board updates. Yes thank  you I'll start with um Trustee

168Steben mentioned this   earlier there was a foundation event last night a  Superintendent Circle which was great supporters   of the foundation we're at Mac's, with myself,  Jackie, um Jennifer was there, and I also just   want to thank Wally and Cindy MacNeil they're  the owners of Mac's. They've been doing this for   years and be and they're very supportive of the  school district and the foundation and it's nice   when you have your you know premier restaurant in  town um you know uh helping and supporting in so   many ways and so I just want to publicly thank  them. Also we got some results in from First   Robotics in Houston Texas this past weekend in um  the World Championships that didn't win at all, but   they did have a really strong showing I heard that  back from Chris Myers today

169and um the kids did   really well and learned to ton as as usual. Also some of you heard that our Esports teams made   the playoffs this year and I got a result that  I I I wanted to read that I thought was great   and this is from Coach Vasiloff said he's happy  to announce that two of our Valorant teams made   the semi-finals of the playoffs and had to play  each other yesterday for a spot in the finals so   now we have um uh Saline High School students Caleb  Summers, Dominic Matthews, Jack Reedville, Lucas   Bay and Jackson Stall of the Saline ValorRunts on top  they're playing in the championship game tomorrow   at 4 and he sent a link out to us and I'm gonna  I'm gonna be tuning in to watch that uh playoff so   that's great,

170and then also Steve Vasiloff was up for  Coach of the Year in his first year. And then   Griffin Berwick, Marco Matthews, and Michael Dooley  made the All State Team. And I think that's pretty   spectacular for the Esports program that just  started so so that was great. And then my final um   comment tonight is a great accolade for a couple  of our high school students and I'm just going   to read this brief letter that um Ashley Mantha  got. So it says Dear Mrs. Ashley Mantha, the Athletic   Director of Saline High School. The Michigan  High School Coaches Association Professional   Organization of High School Middle School Coaches  and Athletic Directors has recognized the senior   athlete in your school as one of the MHSCA Rich Tompkins Multi-Sport Athlete Award State winners.   Thank you for nominating your athletes then  it

171goes on to say the Rich Tompkins Multi-Sport   Athletic Award recognizes the accomplishment of  student athletes who have excelled in a variety of   athletic, academic, school, and community endeavors  these many student athletes were nominated by   school administration based on their three seasons  of interscholastic athletic participation in four   years of high school and their accomplishments  as a scholar and as an active participant in   school and community activities. So not only  did we get one, this is the first time we've   ever gotten two of the in Class A both girls and  boys so Jordan Wickham from Saline High School   Class A girls and pton Payton Widen at Saline High  School Class A boys have won this award and that's   unprecedented and it sort of follows up with again  Saline High School being named uh the 2024 number   one

172ranked school for athletics. Which means  you offer a lot of athletic programs and your   kids excel in the classroom too, so I just think  that pairs nicely and and we're really proud of them. I just have one quick update tomorrow  is voters registration for all the seniors   who are 18, we'll be doing it during  lunches um it's been really great to   work with Mr. Gumenick to set this up with um the  volunteers so yes I'll get Drew and Laney on that. And I only have one update as well keeping  with the SWWC theme. The manufacturing students   and some CAD students had Skills USA like  this past coming weekend or past weekend   and some of them place the one States and  they're going to go to Nationals in June   so that's pretty cool and it's cool

173to see  all the cool club awards and athletic   awards that been keep coming up and are  non-stop throughout the year so that's cool. So I just want to kind of give a  shout back out to the automotive tech um   Tim Timoszyk and David Mellor and the impact they've  had in so many people's lives but in just the   whole agenda today, the superintendent  recognitions were really impressive,   the scheduled reports, the threat  assessment is really important, and   um I appreciate what they did for us and  uh giving us that information and then the   South West Washtenaw Consortium and even the  student showcase was all really impressive today. Heads up to Ben at a request  from a school board member we're   gonna sort of start at the other side  so this is also a heads up to you

174Dr Gold. Yeah I wasn't entirely ready but um I am  looking forward to going to the College and   Career Night tomorrow night and uh that's  pretty much what I have tonight. I'm gonna go later. l'll go next um as Steve mentioned we  enjoyed the Superintendent Circle Dinner thank   you to the Foundation for Saline Area Schools um  and thank you to um Wally and family and Chef   um because it was a wonderful meal that that  uh annual event is uh take a moment to thank   um a group of donors and kind of talk about  what's going on in the District and the table   conversation was very lively around all of the  um building that's going on at the high school   with regards to our our STEAM um Center and also  the Strength and Conditioning um so

175that was very   exciting. I mentioned when Kara was up here  that last week I had the opportunity to attend   um uh one of the meetings, one of the um meetings  that's twice a year with the SWWC um I was asked   to participate because I was a guest speaker, um  last week also for all four sections of Intro   to Business so it was a wonderful opportunity  to bring um my life at Michigan Ross into the   classroom. They ask that I talk a little bit about  the school, um a little bit about what we have to   offer students, and then um I did some interactive  um science-based activities where you talk about   um self leadership and then tie that to um high  performing team leadership. So students could do   one individual exercise and then we did a 

176team exercise. I was super tired at the   end of that day. I'm tired when I go to work but  I was really tired at the end of that day at the   high school so thank you to the teachers who are  teaching at Saline High School appreciate you. I   wanted to say a very happy birthday to Tim, and  I wanted to say a very happy birthday to Jenny.   It's essentially tomorrow or next week um so  I just wanted to wish you guys a happy birthday   and I also um really enjoyed the beginning  of our our session tonight with our retirees   I really liked hearing from the their former  students and we all talk about our why and it   was on full full display so um yeah Kara  should bottle that and get those video   testimonials so

177thank you. I was just going  to note that I'll be in Lansing tomorrow at   the Behind the Scenes Tour of a capital and  uh reminder that next Tuesday evening   I'll be doing a talk again about if for anyone  interested in running for school board at the library. I just wanted to um wish uh good luck  or best wishes to the DECA team that is traveling   to Internationals. International competition uh  next week or sorry Saturday it's in uh Anaheim   California so they are headed there um we  can all uh send our best wishes to to Mrs.   Warren who is the chaperone for the group this  year. She's um I think she I think her title   is technician for the Marketing Class um and  uh we have a several kids participating in   competition Drew is just one

178of them but Sarah  Yousef who we've met before uh Grace Warren um   Erin Huetteman who we've met before and I um  there are two kids who are attending um who   are attending uh the conference and I am lost  on one of them Noah Musson is one of them and   there is another young lady going, I can't think  of think of her name if I think of it again I'll   I'll um mention it but um wishing them the best  of luck and safe travels as they represent um   the compass and all that it in it um includes  uh this weekend. I also had the opportunity   to attend um via Zoom, which was very nice and very  convenient, um the WISD Budget Presentation um and uh   that was very informative and um there  are a number of

179things um that they'll   be reaching out to districts on this year there's  a millage renewal and some other things that are   um supporting um especially Special Education  in the county and shared services so so that   was something that they discussed. Also it was  nice to see because of my life it's not happening   everywhere but there was a healthy Fund Equity  Balance at the ISD which was nice to see, um and   gave a little uh peace of mind, um and then I also  uh last Wednesday attended our DEIAC meeting   most of the meeting was spent on an update from  Ryan Kerr and Jackie Martin on our um on the   work that is currently happening in the district  and there are um are some things that uh that   some things that are in progress and some things 

180that are happening one um bit of information that   perhaps will be shared at a later date too  is that they've been working with the folks   at PowerSchool to update the um Information  Systems to be more um inclusive and uh more   representative of um students and their families  and their identities so thank you for that work. All right so first of all um you know I  recall my own opportunity to go to Anaheim for   DECA as a kid and I have to admit it's like it's  one of my like the best memories I had of being   a high schooler and all that so um so thanks  and I'm gonna give a shout out thanks to my dad   who was also my DECA Advisor so there we go. I  want to give a shout out to our

181Robotics Team for   for Nationals I know that's a big deal in Houston  and I want to thank the Autotech and FFA programs.   I also agree that it was fantastic to see it in  action and to see you know our whys right like   these are individuals who have acquired skills and  have then given back and that's that as a teacher   like what that's that's what we dream about right  is having students who do that so really cool. I'm   excited for Mr. Mellor and Mr. Timosyzk. Mr. Timosyzk you know  being a Manchester resident your family means a   lot to me um but I'm excited for you too you've  earned your retirement and all that but um it's   a it's a big loss for the district. I want to  give a special shout out real quick to to

182Payton   Klein was mentioned she's representing Manchester.  So yay Payton Klein. All right so a couple of   other things Heather Dew continues to amaze me with  her talents. I was reading today um she'll always   kind of have a special place in my heart because  I was fortunate enough to be like invited when we   recognized her as Support Personnel Person of the  Year um and then she took advantage of like the   para pro to teacher transition program and now she  is the Michigan Department of Education's Nominee   for RISE. Recognizing Inspirational School  Employees Award so like wow continues to amaze me   but what more can I say. Thursday night I told  you guys that there's a a Trun Prohibited   Language item or Prohibited Language uh Seminar I  will be there. So I have prioritized that and been   able

183to and luckily my kid had a bus to Bedford  so that helps for Track so anyway long story short   like I will be able to be there I welcome anybody  to to join me but I do plan to attend on behalf   of our team. Climate Survey right I got a about  three emails in the last week reminding me to do   it right and and I'm going to remind everybody I  finally did my Climate Survey um I would recommend   and and ask everybody to do it as you heard at our  last meeting it really does inform the things that   we do, and then uh I guess the last thing I say  is on April 16th um they had an open forum for   presented by the MASB and uh I attended it it was  it was via

184Zoom and I had two kind of takeaways   from the from the meeting number one they spent  a lot of time discussing cyber security and    ransomware attacks and so I feel pretty confident  like our our staff's readiness and I feel very   comfort in our tech department and what have you  but I just I'm mentioning it and I'm um I guess   I do have a a small wonderment it's this do we have  a specific plan in place for if a cyber attack was   to occur? I know we've implemented things  like 2FA we change passwords frequently but   uh they shared some pretty sobering stories about  school districts that have encountered ransomware   attacks and it was a significant pain in the neck  to say the least. All right and then the last thing   they also um I received

185some some professional de  development uh regarding just hiring practices and   things of that nature and I I'll plan to share out  some of those things with with my board colleagues   because it's professional development that I would  love to share. And yeah I've said enough so   thank you to everybody out there. The student  that I that I um left out is Nya do you know   Nya last name in the Marketing Program? Stetson.  Okay, so she's okay so she's also participating   with Noah in Thrive Academy so didn't want  to leave her out. I'll see you there Thursday Brad. Comments or from the board or updates this  is your chance to share. Yes um um so um what I   wanted to add to the agenda and I have to speak  here now um so this is now my

186focus um about um   what the process is for the board um to contact  legal um you know if there is a legal concern or   complaint of a superintendent or a board member um  you know when a serious concern is brought to the   attention of the board um if there's potential  liability issues for the board um as it impacts   uh the district, the community. And if one  or more board members ask for uh legal input   how does that happen? And so this has been a  discussion uh before about I mean even last year   um about board members do have that autonomy um  the board has autonomy to um consult legal counsel   um but you know for example telling a board member  that if they're bringing up a concern that's been   brought by a community member but

187they were just  thanked for their email if a board member um you   know bring brings it up as we are we have a duty  and um um you know ethics um to ask questions um   not just here at the board table or before um  a board meeting um you know violating OMA um so   why would a s a board member have to go through  a public complaint process um to um for that to   to be addressed uh when it's not necessarily their  complaint um or a board operating procedure um on   board superintendent relations um so I don't think  there's issue with a board member asking questions   um and you know asking that legal have input um so  they can determine uh next steps um but somehow um   not even necessarily my complaint just bringing  up

188a process issue um but somehow now I'm the one   who um and being trying to be ethical um I'm being  um not even having the opportunity to to have that   discussion so yet again we don't know how that  occurs um and so you know investigating a board   member. Like who makes that decision? I would think  the board would but oh if we don't have process I   guess we don't you know do anything about it so  um you know I wasn't going to speak to the issue   I had no plan um it sounds like multiple board  members were talking about my email and simply   in the email I um I said if we could have, since  there is confusion about accountability here, um   that you know we can publicly discuss and decide  this as a board

189whether you want to talk about the   specific issues um that you know come up or if you  know um we want to talk about who does that right   um I think shutting down conversation of a board  member who's trying um to do the right thing and   requesting that we do do the right thing um you  don't shut them down I mean this is ridiculous.  So um there you go. Is that it? Thank you I am  happy to address uh Policy 0172. I I don't. Are   you? What oh. I thought you were done. You're not done? Is  this your? Did you not do? No this is me as the as   the president of the board saying what happy to  address this. Oh I'm happy to talk more about it too.  No no uh first of all well

190just since since you  brought up and you want to talk about it um you   I'm if if you uh would like to set a discussion  topic about how we go through policy 0172 which is   uh that the Board of Education, and you were very  specific and I appreciate that, uh get employees   an attorney. We're happy to discuss the process  uh and the same with Policy 8325 in which uh   uh an individual board member can also get legal  counsel. We can talk about those processes as well   at a at a future board meeting. That's not the process for a board member. Let's put it on the agenda. I know you   attempted to this evening, but we weren't sure  what the topic was I don't think, I don't know   why you didn't get support then, so I

191will happily  make sure that gets on the agenda. If you send me   the the topic we'll discuss it and. Go ahead and  put it on the agenda because you've seen it.  No I was not allowed to you would ask me not to go  back and forth with you to ask questions via the   email. Because of OMA yes. So I chose not to. And we're talking about it now I'm asking for you to put   it on the agenda. That's it. If you could clearly  write to me and let me know what the it is that   we want on the agenda, let me see if I understand  it, and I'm happy to put it on and Betty can even   make comments for the next next agenda uh what is  the procedure for the Board of Education to employ  

192an attorney to represent the school district if  I understood that correctly what you're asking.   We have like what do you mean employ like we have?  To employ an attorney or law firm to represent the   school district or board in actions brought for or  against. Yes that's a policy, yes. That's the policy   and you like to know the procedure? Yeah I would  think I would hope all the board members would   like to know that but. All right we won't discuss  it right now but I'm happy to make sure that that   gets on the agenda and I'm sure we'll all be ready  to discuss it in two weeks or whatever three weeks   time thank you. We are at the I think we're  at the public comment section, oh consent agenda.   Oh the consent agenda uh the consent

193agenda is  listed in this agenda and will not be read aloud   the motion noted will allow for the authorization  of all listed items without discussion unless a   member of the board requests that any one or  all be considered individually. Can I I'd like   to entertain a motion to uh authorize the consent  agenda as printed. So move Steben. Steben moves. Support   Miller. Miller moves. All in favor please say I. I...  Opposed. Thank you so 7-0. Just let me scroll   down to items on the next agenda Dr Laatsch. Yeah we  uh for our superintendent recognition next time   will be uh honoring the Washtenaw United Girls Hockey  State Championship and Boys Swim and Dive and then   for reports a Special Education update and then  following that theme of Special Education Millage   like um Trustee Miller said we're going

194to be  talking about the Special Education Millage and   the WISD Budget Resolution. That you buried the lead  that would be the best presentation of the evening.   That's because you're doing it. That's because I'm  doing it. No I'm looking forward to it I was I I   couldn't make it that evening and I asked uh for  the presentation they gave it to me with volumes   of notes and I I thank you very much Jenny for  for being there it's very rare that people go, but Trustees and superintendents go. Right um a member  of the public. Michael I'm sorry I just had   one thing, I just wanted to um remind you and  let the board know that I will be absent from   the next meeting um so I can go back on policy  but you'd have to I

195think it would be Jenny who   would be Vice President if you were ill or had  to step in so I just wanted to kind of kind of   raise that I don't think he plans on not being  here and I don't think he plans on being ill,   but I did want to raise it I have a mandatory  work trip out of state so I will be there and   I since it's going to be on everyone's calendar  October 22nd I can't make it that night so I'll be. I gave you 6 months and 2 days. And I can make it that night we're good.Thank you very much we uh so public comment  sorry for the lively banter uh members of the public  can uh speak to us for up to three minutes or   request to be scheduled

196on the agenda of  a future meeting. I have in my hands Lindsay Anderson is first followed by Tiffany  Alexander on deck. One minute warning with the yellows. Hello, okay hi my name is Lindsay Anderson  and I have two children who go to Saline Middle   School one of whom is transgender um I used to  be a member of the Saline Transgender Task Force uh   when we were working with the district uh we had  a hand in helping to put together the policy um   this the Transgender and Non-Binary Student Policy  um and we have been working with the DEIAC since then   to um help craft guidelines that are going to  uh make that policy more operationalized within   the district both for teachers administrators um  and students um our parent group uh met with the   DEIAC we got

197a lot of great feedback from teachers,  students, and other community members one of the   things that came out of that meeting was the um uh  the updates to PowerSchool thank you I couldn't   remember the word power schroll um about making  PowerSchool more inclusive it was a really great   um example of community organizing where many  stakeholders were meeting at the same time to   decide what was important and what was needed  um so that this policy can do what it supposed   to do which is protect students and make school  um safer for them. The thing that I heard come up   multiple times tonight was prevention um this is  what those guidelines are really there for is to   prevent instances of transgender and non-binary kids  being bullied uh and being in environments where   they don't feel safe. When

198we talk about threat  um examining threats just to bring it back to what   you were talking about tonight sometimes when  you are doing threat assessments for something   that seems like an off hand comment when those  off hand comments are happening throughout the   day they accumulate to become a something that can  feel like a pretty big threat to that student and   so if the environment of they go class to class  and maybe it's different students saying similar   things that student is dealing with a threat load  that can maybe equal something that's more serious.   I realized my time is almost out I also wanted  to just talk about that we often feel like we are   adversaries of um the school board sometimes when  really we strive and want to be an asset to you um   we know

199what our kids are going through. We deeply  deeply care about creating environments where they   can be safe and I think we are on the same page as  that um when we come up here and we have to bring   problems before you I know it's not fun for any of  us um and so sometimes the reaction can be that we   are a threat to the status quo and I just want a  better working relationship between us thank you.   [Applause] Thank you Lindsay I I appreciate that um Tiffany  Alexander is next followed by David Hayward parent. I wanted to talk about  the same thing I want to talk   about how we have it anybody  in this District who attempts   to bring a legitimate problem is put in  a situation where it feels hostile and adversarial. Even people

200who come here who are  supporting the policies that you have enacted   and are asking only that you see these  policies through. Are still treated with hostility. We fear for retaliation on our families  and our children and the reason we have that fear   is we see retaliation on families, on children, in  this District all the time. There are people who   will never come up here and talk to you because  of that and I think you know that. I have been   disrespected. I have been defamed I have seen  people accused of being lying when it's in black   and white. We get promised the same thing over and  over and over again. We get pleasant smiles and   we're doing this and we're doing that and then it  doesn't happen and then when we say hey you said   this

201but you're not doing it. Then suddenly we're  bad and in my case I'm the angry Black woman. Well   I am a very very angry Black woman, because I'm  really tired of these disingenuous conversations   that is supposed to be part of civility but  there's nothing ci civil about a dishonest   conversation. Ego a does not belong here. Fragility  does not belong here. This is not about us and it's   not about you. This is about the kids and it's not  just about the kids who are flourishing. It's also   about the kids who are struggling the problems  we bring you are real we're not making them up   and I think each and every one of you knows  that these are real problems with real kids   with real families, and we can't safely come to  you, because we don't know

202how we're going to be   treated, dismissed, humiliated, made to sound like a  bunch of radicals for simply bringing you what you   know to be facts, then the facts get manipulated  and twisted and if you attempt to do a FOIA God   help you because they will pad it for thousands  and thousands of dollars, because that way they can   make sure that they can keep things quiet if you  want to help your students you have to hear the   voices of the marginalized telling you that you  have these students who are are doing great and   these are amazing kids, with amazing families, and  amazing teachers but the kids who are struggling   they're amazing too and they need your help, and  you're not giving it because you're not elevating   the voices of those who are marginalized  and struggling. You're

203pretending we're crazy. [Applause] Thank you. David Hayward. On Deck is David Rosenfeld resident. I'd like to talk about the  social media policy uh about two years   ago the district adopted its current social  media policy in order to allow it to moderate   offensive content on its social media feeds  um recently there's been a certain reticence   to exercise this policy. I think that uh  incorrect uh and I made that point um to to   to the board and to the superintendent but  that's somewhat neither here nor there the   rationale that was given was uh fear of uh  First Amendment lawsuits. Ironically my own   uh post urging the district to follow its  its own policy um was moderated I've been   told uh today that that happened because uh the  District was using an AI auto moderation tool um   my my

204comment at right now is um to to point  out that I think that if the District is indeed   worried about the Free Speech implications of its  of of what it does on social media it needs to   strongly consider whether those tools themselves  are appropriate and and uh and legal for for its   purposes um because uh on the other hand if the  District can algorithmically moderate my posts,   why is it not also able to moderate a genuinely  offensive post? And again uh following on my   theme from before, I'm not trying to make some  kind of abstract theoretical uh debate or or   nitpick a point allowing hate speech against  students, staff, and community members which is   what is is going on on the District's social media  posts is is actively harmful to those students and   staff and

205community members and when the District  allows those things to stay up especially when   it's moderating other things but just allowing  those things to stay up in general that can come   across even as tacit support for those ideas. This  is just something that that we need to do better. [Applause] Okay my name is uh Dave Rosenfeld my pronouns  are he him his. I'm a Saline resident and I'm the   proud parent of three former Hornets including  an amazing 16-year-old transgender son. The main   reason I'm here today is I'm hoping to get  some clarification on what's happening with   the Transgender Student Policy Guidelines  which I know your DEIAC has been working on so   hard and so diligently for the past several  months at least until just a couple days ago   I was actually planning on attending today's  meeting

206in support of those guidelines being   presented to you and possibly even answering  some questions in my capacity as one of several   parents, several parents of trans students, who has  provided feedback for the guidelines but then I   discovered that even though the committee has an  excellent draft ready for your review they did not   make it onto tonight's agenda for reasons that  are not entirely clear, but whatever the reasons   are for the de delay I sincerely hope that it  is just that a slight delay and that you do   fully intend to review the guidelines which  your own advisory committee has has prepared   and to provide feedback, allow them to make any  necessary changes, and then ultimately support the   guidelines adoption by the superintendent and the  rest of the ad administrative team here in Saline.   The reason these

207guidelines are so important is  because not only have trans students and parents   of trans students at SAS expressed concerns over  the implementation of the Trans Student Policy in   the two and a half years since it was unanimously  adopted by this board, but teachers, administrators,   and even Dr. Laatsch himself have all admitted  that the policy has not been uniformly consist   consistently and/or adequately implemented in all  buildings and all classrooms in the District in   that time, and to my knowledge in those two and a  half years the District has not yet developed any   other guidelines for the proper implementation  of the policy. Now I know Dr Laatsch made mention   at a recent board meeting that he is hoping  a Neola representative will help develop some   guidelines for this non-Neola policy that would  be consistent with other Neola

208guidelines and   also perhaps that the DEIAC has employed different  processes in developing these guidelines than the   district has used in the past. But whether or not  those things are true it should not be a reason   for the District to decline to seriously consider  adopting the guidelines developed and recommended   by its own DEIAC and I say that in part because  I know for a fact that the committee members who   were responsible for creating the guidelines  did absolutely everything right. Not only is   everything in the draft guidelines evidence-based  and supportive of best practices in education as   well as Michigan state and federal law but the  drafters sought the feedback and incorporated   the input of all appropriate stakeholders,  from transgender students and their families   to teachers to administrators to transgender  community members to student and community   organizations that

209support both educators and  transgender students as well as others. If you   fail to seriously review and then ultimately adopt  and/or recommend adoption of some form of these   guidelines, you will be doing a grave disservice to  your constituents and more importantly to our kids.   Thanks for your time and for your continuing  commitment to equity for all students at SAS. [Applause] I feel very uh sad about coming back up here   um I just have one question I'd  like the board to follow up on   what Trustee Estep asked Assistant uh Guenther at  the uh question about the threat assessment thank you. Viva Rosenfeld thank you. I wasn't going to get up and speak but  it is really hard coming to these meetings and   and seeing how um minority groups are maligned by  this board. The transgender policy seems

210like it   was just a flag to hang up in the district, like  hey we're doing it, we have it, but we're actually   not going to do anything, you created the opt-out  policy, apparently you already have guidelines for   that, that was just created this year. Where the  policy the guidelines for the trans policy? DEIAC   don't seem to have any teeth in what actually you  all do as a board. Again another flag, we're doing   it, but actually not really doing it. I'm curious  like why one of the presenters can't ask answer a   board member a board member's question, is that how  children are handled in this District? My question   to you all is what do you do when staff are the  threat to children and how are they actually handled? For a moment I need you to

211put yourself in  a parent mode and think about how you would feel   if you and your child are going through  what your board peer is going through.  If you can't understand and and see what's  actually going on you're heartless you talk   about threat assessment and um how threat  assessment is lowering school to prison   pipeline which is systemic racism. My question to  you how many white children have been suspended   for running in the school building and then my  next question question is to you how many black children? I loved what the presenter quoted  about what you're passionate about is what   you should do. Clearly you all are not actually  passionate about supporting de DEI which is what   most of you ran on because you're actually  not supporting those kids and protecting   them. You're only uplifting kids

212that are already  being supported through the groups and the clubs   and the sports that you all want to show off. Let's  support the kids that can't be seen and don't have voices [Applause] The next meeting of the Board of Education   will be held on May 14th at 6:30 p.m.  right here I'd like to entertain a   motion to adjourn the regular Board  of Education meeting of today at 9:24 9:42 motion. Oh vey. Jenny. Jenny. Motion Miller   Support Steben. Jenny squared. All in favor  please say I. I... Opposed. Great thank you and [gavel tap] Jennifer squared.

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