Saline Area Schools: Board of Education Meeting (02.28.2023)

001like to call to order please the Board of Education meeting for Saline area schools for February 28 2023 at 6 30 PM if everyone could all please rise for our Pledge of Allegiance I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all right welcome everybody um uh President Michael McVeigh is traveling and I know he's watching hello Michael so I'll be facilitating this evening this is our first opportunity for public comment Betty I don't see any sheets there are none so I will not read our statement but I will later if we do have other public comment response to public comment we just like to say thank you very much for emailing the board

002SAS board at celineschools.org or using the let's talk feature on our website moving forward to revisions or approval of agenda items may be added or deleted from the meeting agenda and or the order of items may be changed at the request of an individual board member or the superintendent the agendas must be approved before proceeding further I'd like to please entertain a motion to approve the agenda as printed Mulch and gerby Brad thank you support Estep Susan thank you all those in favor please say aye aye opposed hearing none motion carries 6-0 on to our student showcase I think we have lots of lots of friends if you'd like to please approach the podium this is our Celine Middle School yearbook class and advisor and you'll just toggle on to green and you're all set

003whatever you're ready so thank you so much to the board for inviting us here tonight I just want to say a few quick words to gloat about these people in front of you uh so so proud of of what they have achieved we've got everywhere from seniors in high school to 8th graders that are with me right now here tonight and so thank you to Ali for she was on the yearbook staff back in the day and reached out to do this so um uh the students that are with me tonight usually are with me for two years back when they're in middle school for multimedia one in seventh grade then multimedia two in eighth grade and uh they create the yearbook and it's a full year task that crew that requires many demanding things

004that most 13 and 14 year olds are not able to handle and so these students have such a high level of responsibility and I have so much respect for tons of work that they put in when they were with me to create our yearbooks and so um over the years sorry not there we go what's that there we go so my students win a lot of awards and it is so cool to to see uh recently with covid they have all ceremonies virtually and all all Awards seem to be delayed but over the years my students have won national awards Statewide Awards and uh we have several organizations Nationwide organizations and Statewide organizations that have recognized my students for their work and I'm biased but we have created one of the best Middle School yearbooks

005in the state and these groups have recognized that fact as well so mipa which is the Michigan intersclastic press Association sends our yearbook out to an out-of-state judge and five out of the last six years we've won a Spartan award which is the highest rating that you can get and if we win four more we'll be the first Middle School ever inducted into the mipa Hall of Fame no other middle school has done that so um I'm speaking so quickly I could I could talk forever I want to pass it off to the students but I everything I plan to say I just didn't say because I got so excited about what they're about to talk about so I mean you can see here just so many things that an All-American critique from a National

006Organization is is is uh an awesome thing for for these students to achieve so um I'm going to turn it over to faith and the our Senior Crew here who was part of um the 2019 yearbook so hello everyone my name is Faith Houston and I'm currently a senior at Celine high school I had the honor of being um one as well as these wonderful people next to me of the um editor-in-chiefs of the slee Middle School yearbook for the 2019 yearbook I've also had the honor and the privilege of being the business editor for the Celine High School yearbook for the past two years so that means I've taken a yearbook class for four years of my academic career if you will with Celine and I can say with full confidence that there is

007not another class even remotely close to a yearbook class offered at Celine I say this for a lot of reasons but one of the biggest ones being how independently and student-led this class is so you're responsible for your own work as a student of this class and your name gets put on it and though the yearbook is a bunch of individual work of individual pieces they're stitched together to form a big group project and that in a way is what makes this class so unique and so special so the yearbook is a collection of student ideas pictures quotes captions and it is something that I myself as well as a lot of the student body will look back on for years and years in each yearbook is different than the last year which you will

008see and that showcases the very thing that I'm talking about so each student's ideas can spark a beautiful new yearbook different from the previous year I'm very grateful for the lessons and memories that I gained from the slain Middle School multimedia class and I'm very grateful for the opportunity to speak about it today um yeah this the yearbook class has just it taught me so many things when I was at such an impressionable age it taught me what it felt like to be passionate about something and to really be able to put my work into it and put my own spin on it I mean the three of us would spend every second hour and every lunch in that class working on the yearbook working on captions helping our peers and it was just such

009an incredible experience that really taught me about myself taught me about my work ethic and taught me just that I could be happy while working and that I could look forward to education and hard work and just how proud I could feel after it was completed would you mind introducing yourself so you can get all the praise that you deserve um yeah my name is Avery Carroll thank you my name is Avery machowski and I was an editor um for our yearbook though won a Spartan award we had 45 individual Awards and 40 or 23 first place and a gold medalist critique and a gallery of Excellence from oldsworth yearbooks thank you and then we'll pass it on to the current Juniors which was the 2020 yearbook we all know they had a tough year

010with that one and they all did amazing so so hello everybody my name is Neil suchdeva and I'm a current Junior at Celine High School I was one of the 2020 editors and chief of the Middle School yearbook our year was definitely different from the rest with our time being cut short due to the kova 19 pandemic when we heard the news that are we may be off of school our yearbook staff struggle to finish as much as possible with the time we had left and this meant working under pressure and managing our time as best as possible and as a result we were able to have a smooth and quick transition to online work to finish the yearbook and we were able to finish it and hand it out to students in the end

011so that was really great um and not only that but we were able to win the Spartan award which is one of the highest honors given to Middle School yearbooks in our state among many other awards that you can see listed 46 individual Awards and 25 of them were first place and the theme of our yearbook was this is how we see it which is all about looking at different perspectives and different points of view my time on the Middle School yearbook was incredibly transformative and taught me many skills I'll carry with me for the rest of my life and I'm sure that many other yearbook alumni here would agree with me when I say that thank you I'm suhani I'm also one of the I was also one of the co-editors of the yearbook

012in 2020 and um an additional issue that we faced other than kovid was that some of us went directly to multimedia to skipping over multimedia one where we learned a lot of the important skills that you need for yearbook and that's how we realized that leadership isn't just about the things that you can do it's also about the people that you inspire this was also this was obviously a big leadership role for us in middle school and we kind of learned how to work with the people on the committee to get things done efficiently but the real learning curve was obviously when covet hit it was even more important that the committee members wanted to keep working unless that they were doing it for a grade there was a sudden organization changes we shifted online

013and suddenly everyone disappeared but we stood together to bring everyone back we focus on what we can do rather than what we can't do and supporting we supported each other through every struggle the yearbook was the fruit of our hard work and I still cherish it to this day it is basically framed on my wall along with that I'm Sarah Yousef OZO so one of the co-editors of this year multimedia especially the yearbook program allows students to really expand on the skills that they learn in multimedia or the other interests that they have it also expands on video which we'll touch a lot later but for me it allowed me to be able to expand on those photography skills and really put them into action rather than just having projects or assignments that you might

014see in a traditional classroom so that's one of the things that your book is really cool about is because you get to get out of that traditional style of a classroom and really put it into action and create something that you can have right in front of you hmm um hi everyone I'm Catherine Mullins and I'm the Doula Shri sankari we're both freshmen at Celine high school and we were the editors of the 2022 yearbook um so the theme of our yearbook was take two which reflected the new beginnings of our school year so this was our first real Year back since coven um and so we really had to efficiently overcome sort of I guess being together again as a whole group it was different being there every single day but we just learned

015that we won a Spartan award for this year and we're awaiting our individual award results which there were 42 nominated so producing the yearbook helped us with a lot of very significant things but specifically our work ethics were impacted the most vedula and I would come in on our lunch breaks to get work done and the environment was very career-esque as everyone had a set of tasks to complete to contribute to the final product now with studying and finals next week I find that the habits I developed in this class are incredibly helpful to me when I need to set aside time to be productive this class helped me develop a solid and efficient work and study ethic as well as boosting my self-confidence our small But Mighty team built each other up any chance

016we got especially when we had to do interviews we conducted so many interviews I guarantee I would not have the courage to speak to you guys tonight if we didn't do that middle schoolers are a lot more intimidating than you might think so this is a Wonderful class an opportunity to gain real life skills in and I'm so grateful that I got to take part in it Mr Reeves is an excellent mentor and I think I could speak for all of the alumni that none of us could have done anything without his guidance I'm excited to see what this year's staff creates and um thank you thank you snow day Steve for having us here hi my name is Carly um I'm on the I'm a current editor-in-chief for yearbook and our theme this year

017is find your piece which Peyton's going to talk about more but base I didn't even when I was choosing my seventh grade electives I didn't even have multimedia like in my top three so I don't even know how I got it but I'm so I'm so glad I did because it's one of the best things that like ever happened to me I learned so many skills like all the stuff we learned in multimedia one like Photoshop design photography um we all we Implement that into multimedia too and to create a product that people consume and that's really special because we have to work as a team really this is a really big collaboration because we have to create a book that's supposed to be creep that's supposed to look like it's created by one person

018and but it's created by 50 people so we have to you know really work together and collaborate and use the skills we learned in multimedia one and Implement them in multimedia too and it was really fun um because really we have I grew a lot closer with the friends that I made I didn't know a lot of people at the beginning of the year and now they're some of my best friends so multimedia really brought me together with a lot of my classmates and that was really a really good special opportunity and I'm really glad that happened uh this year our theme was find your piece and we were focusing on this theme of like everyone has a spot at Celine and you can see that through the puzzle pieces that like each person has

019their own individual little part that we contribute to Saline Middle School especially through things like clubs and activities and the Yearbook and we work at my group has worked on incorporating that throughout the yearbook and making sure it's like a consistent like flow throughout the yearbook and how each page reflects that each person like brings something of their own to the school and how important that is to like keep a community and how it makes Celine like uh connected place and environment did you want to introduce yourself so you can get pregnant sorry thanks baby thank you um so along with a wonderful yearbook program there is a bit more to multimedia too and the opportunities that student get students get so um along with that we also had an SMS Buzz program and it

020took a little bit of a halt because of kovid but while it was happening a lot of people got to both edit and be on screen of the show itself you can see me and Neil and our horrendous Middle School photos in there but it honestly sparked my love for going into something in high school where I wasn't really sure that I got a full chance to expand on it because I was so focused on the yearbook so I going into high school I really wanted to expand on that video aspect so I very quickly took video one and after exploring what Celine had opportunity wise I then went into shs today where I found a similar Dynamic to the yearbook that I had in multimedia too and that kind of interaction and I think

021that the team building types of classes are very valuable because not only do you get to grow closer to your peers as some of the staff has said but also you just get to build connections That You Don't See in a regular type of classroom and building a product that you're proud of is super important and I think multimedia too gives students a lot of courage to be able to step out on that stage and explore their skills of what they want thank you so much anyone else no thank you so much did you have other friends in the audience that didn't speak but are also on your book that we might want to recognize second chance we had uh our sophomore class someone close to come but weren't able to make it last minute

022so that group wasn't able to speak but that was a slide we skipped over no problem well we certainly appreciate and recognize them as well really well done you're talking to a journalism um student former journalism student so you can go on and have a path if you'd like in this and my advisor was absolutely hands down my favorite teacher So when you say that you spent lunches there and all like that resonates with me so thank you any questions or comments from the trustees yeah Susan Middle School was really really long time ago for me but I still look back at my yearbooks [Laughter] so you're you're definitely right in that like you know this familiar name and um and so always looking back and having having those memories and stuff and I look

023at my children's yearbooks as well um for you know their former classmates oh yeah that was your friend so um yeah awesome job like I I wasn't in your book but I wish I had been just listening to you know all of that Hands-On learning um so thank you all for presenting and yeah great job so Mr Reeves mentioned this a little bit but I was in the multimedia or yearbook class in eighth grade I got bumped up to multimedia too it was also a copy editor and I'll say if nothing else copy editing taught me a lot of oh that's my face right there look at that okay wow look at that ponytail but um so yes I was a copy editor and if nothing else copy editing taught me a lot of patience

024because when you're editing 8th graders of writing sometimes you see some interesting grammatical choices so that was a good opportunity for my writing but even just being in the yearbook class it's a really unique creative experience in a way that I think a lot of other schools and even a lot of other classes don't really touch on because I feel like a lot of people think if you don't take an art class you don't get the opportunity to be really creative and have fun in your classes but in our year that we did multimedia we were drawing every day and we were making those designs every day and you know it was just an opportunity every time we walked in the room to create something cool and to create something different and I think it

025is a really valuable class so I think if there are any middle schoolers watching who are in sixth grade I think it's a really awesome opportunity and I appreciate Mr Reeves a lot for advising and keeping this going well I was in yearbook but as Susan mentioned I think my time was even before Susan's time back in middle school so I was in yearbook back in the land of um straight edges and scissors for cropping pictures we didn't have the digital tools that you all have so some of it is correlates and uh you know is a testament to the the march of time and Innovation that has has happened in your book but I do remember the relationships that we had the hours that we spent together I can still picture the the classroom

026that we were in was a classroom by itself off the cafeteria and so I remember that we had music going and conversations and and how important it was for us to really build community amongst our group but also to really um be creative and inclusive to make sure that we were including all of the different elements of of middle school life and of high school life so I just commend you we have as as the slides were um we're showing the covers we have many of those books in our homes and we do still from time to time pull them out I think they're you know it tends like with them with your yearbooks that you pour over them for the time that you get them and then sometimes they become they go into a

027shelf or a basket or something and then you know a couple of years ago we had my daughter's graduation and they come back out and we start to look and see our friends and and see how we've grown over the years so they are just a really um wonderful artifact to commemorate the times that you've spent together so thank you for your hard work and as vice president stevin mentioned this could lead to um to a career for each of you so congratulations on all your Awards and your work thank you yeah I want to also speak to that right I I love that you talked about a number of things um first five a sixth grader who will get some encouragement from me as the scheduling process uh begins here and I think Mr

028Reeves thank you for for everything uh you know you spoke to the value of team building right and and the reality is that there are very few jobs professionally that you can do all on your own in a laboratory secluded you know so I was really glad to hear you highlight that um I will be selfish and say that I am super excited to hear that it's a Spartan award and you know maybe not another award like Wolverine award or anything like that um but you know when I think about I think about the high level of programs that we offer we speak our robotics program now we're seeing this program you know and and so I think this speaks to the quality of the the programs we do because I do I think about

029like journalism and technical writing and publishing and editing and graphic design and production and these are all careers these are all things that you could do if you know with the for the rest of your life and so I am really excited about that and I'm really excited to see that you received recognition for the work you did during those covid times when everybody's kind of looking around saying what you know what what are we we were doing high level things so anyway so I thank you for your presentation I thank you for so many aspects of it all right Bravo to you he had a question about fairness and balance so we have so many clubs and so many students at Celine Middle School how do you how do you ensure that there's a

030representation across all of our clubs and Athletics and classrooms and activities so we can highlight everybody some of these questions do rely on a bit of an advisor approach but um it is it is very important um we have a club's photo section in the back where like right now we're tracking down every Club to try to make sure that we and a club last year didn't want to be in it and then you know someone approached said why didn't you put that club in there and we're always trying to make sure that every everybody is represented absolutely and it is hard um we have 124 page book so it's a little smaller than a high school book well quite a bit smaller than a high school book and so it's hard to did we

031take a picture of every elective class to try to make sure that you know we show that what is offered here do we try to make it to every Club you know there's over 20 of them so it is on our minds and I from day one I'm always trying to to tell the students to think outside of yourselves and your circles we don't want your friends just to be in the book right and actually the group this year um I mean all the years have done it but I'm seeing it right now I constantly hear conversations like now we can't put them in the book that's your friend like um representation and and equality with that is is something I preach from day one and the students have bought in so I appreciate that

032from them okay this is also kind of from a high school perspective because I'm still in yearbooks so of course I haven't done Middle School yearbook for five years at this point so but for high school yearbook we do for more of a technical answer use the or we use this thing called a coverage report so that basically in the high school yearbook we have so many kids in the high school it's like 1600 something crazy so of course not every person is going to be able to get in the book multiple times um but within the coverage report we try and get each student in the yearbook three times that also includes clubs so for the high school yearbook we do put clubs in the coverage report I'm imagining Middle School is a little

033similar with a coverage report so to include every student at least two times as a goal in a yearbook so that's a little more of a technical answer though but that's the perfect answer any other questions or comments all right thank you so much appreciate you [Applause] um moving to our first scheduled report of the evening District enrollment and School of Choice Dr Lodge yeah students everyone can go if you have homework or other activities this evening you are absolutely welcome to stay foreign thank you Mr Reeves and students that was a great presentation well done I am here tonight to talk a little bit about enrollment and School of Choice this is an update and talking about Direction and next steps everybody should have a paper copy of this slide that you're going to

034see over and over again in this presentation so we're going to refer to it often probably best to just have it ready so you can you can reference it at any rate we're talking tonight about enrollment head count and we're looking at the last six to seven to eight to nine years moving forward and where we're at beginning in 2016 and 17 we had enrollment of 51.49 and then fast forward to today we have lost around 400 students and so just looking at that straight line movement forward the red at the bottom is showing the change and if it's in parentheses it means it was a loss if it's not it means it was a gain but primarily you're going to see that we had three years what we're going to call the coveted years

035in 2019-2021 and 2122 were the bulk of our loss was occurring now you're going to see a number of factors that I go through tonight and some of them are having to do with just there are less kids to draw from and we anticipated this happening for quite some time but we're also looking at other factors what are some other reasons we may not have as many kids in the district anymore now inherently having a smaller population of students isn't really an issue but we need to get it stabilized and when I say stabilize we we need to sort of flatten out and determine what is going to be the number that we use to Benchmark and then we take that number and we need to build properly our staffing model around it because we're

036going to talk tonight about structure which is really important and as many of you know we've had a lot of one-time money come in over the last few years coveted relief funds um you know millions of dollars have come in and and we have a reasonably High fund balance right now but what you're also going to see and Miranda will be going over some of this too with our budget amendment that you're going to see that if we aren't monitoring closely all the variables in our school district which is the per pupil expenditure that's how much money we get per student the number of students in the district are contracts health insurance costs retirement costs if we're not monitoring that closely we are facing a potential financial cliff that that could be really problematic again

037we feel like we have a lot of good strategies to offset that and we're going to talk about that tonight so when we talk about straight roll up I just to go over here and point this out straight roll up means that last year or this year we have 327 kindergartners we move that straight forward to next year first graders and it's 327. that's what we mean by straight line roll up and as we continue to shed larger graduating classes so if you look down at um you know high school high school population you can see that we have had larger classes in the 400s yet you can see coming up behind that there are smaller classes that means we're graduating more than we're taking in and that's been a trend that's been going on

038for some time now yet we've been able to recapture some students in between yet we're now at this point where a lot of those graduating classes those big classes are leaving and again smaller classes coming in and we're looking at all that tonight uh the other point I want to go over before we go to the next slide is stabilize stabilization I I talk about a stabilization number and what I talk about that that means to me the perfect number of move-ins that are coming into the district and or in this case tonight we're talking about School of Choice to balance it all out and balancing out what I mean is flat no loss uh years where we would sustain either flat growth or increases okay now some of these slides which I know are

039a little hard to read but I'll go over the gist of them these were taken from a previous year's report that trustee Hayward at the time gathered he's a statistician and this is information gathered from the Census Bureau and from Mi School data.org in short what this is showing is that over a 10-year period from more or less 2010 to 2020 we have seen that the school age population has lost has lost population meaning there are less kids to draw on in the public schools over that 10-year span now if you look at that first bullet point talks about Census Bureau shows this decline especially in the school age population ages 5 to 17 where the state of Michigan lost 9.6 percent of school age population Washington County lost 5.2 percent now while all that

040was occurring in 10-year span Saline Area Schools lost 2.2 percent so what it's showing is we've seen this population decline throughout the state of Michigan and in Washington County and yet salinary schools is doing better than the Washington County average but we're still losing students it's not to say we're not losing some students okay you also see this the chart here is more or less showing that Saline Area Schools is in the loss of a little over two percent now Dexter lost a little less um they're less than one percent Ann Arbor is the only District in those 10-year spans to gain enrollment so it's just showing that straight line movement of enrollment now when we talk about enrollment Trends sort of like why this might be happening why might this be happening in this

041linear schools we just spoke about birth rate if the birth rate's lower and we have less students to draw from across the state in Washington County than there are fewer school-aged kids to you know be in the district the second bullet point though is more choices that especially during the coveted years there were many families who were exercising other options whether that's going to do the homeschooling private schools there are more options now and for certain during the covid years of those three years I pointed out previously we believe that is what has happened um we're also not gaining back as many students as fast as we had during key transition years key transition years are sixth grade and Ninth Grade because you know Fair number coming in through middle school started middle school and

042then a fair number coming in in ninth grade ninth grade you might be getting students from some of the local schools that go k through eight I'll say Emerson for example it goes K through a and then students need you know they make decision on where they're going for high school we're not seeing as much of a gain in those areas as we've had in the past um I already mentioned that we've lost a significant number during that three-year covid year span but the enrollment loss does appear to be stabilizing and when I when I say that we look at the three years in covet loss as um you know almost 100 and 2019-20 178 in 20 20 21 101 in 21 22 and now in this past year we've only lost 41 students when

043you look at the column in between 2022 and 23 and the straight roll forward blue section of 2023-24 you see a column that doesn't really have a heading so take a look at that number where it says 11 that's in first grade what that means is this year we had 11 more first graders than we did the previous year we had 10 more second graders than the previous year 18 more third graders in the previous year and so forth so we had gains in all of our elementary and middle school grades through grade nine but then we still had losses at 10th 11th and 12th um so you look at that column it adds up to 99 like a net 99 positive so you're saying well why isn't enrollment actually going up it's because we're

044still graduating those larger classes that has to filtrate out and then moving forward Miranda did an excellent job of doing this just more or less we we discussed this and we said don't roll forward the next three years with a um you know uh what I would say is a more uh liberal approach don't don't do that make it very conservative on what if we don't gain any students in those Elementary grades what happens and so we're trying to look at that from the standpoint of if that played out which I have doubts that it will play out there is there is some positive signs showing that we are growing again in some of those Elementary grades all the way through the beginning of high school but if that Trend stops and it doesn't go

045forward we will experience 67 students lost next year and then the following year a 75 student loss and then a 90 student loss moving forward so it's really painting the picture where we want we want to do a very very conservative budget so we know all the things we need to look at in case we need to make reductions moving forward okay and then this is a slide that just shows I'm gonna go over this one quickly but this is the post covet impact all districts over this last several years span have lost students and that's just showing that in the negative including Ann Arbor okay so let's talk about next steps so in enrollment appears to be stabilizing but we should be cautious about coveted returns well what do I mean by coveted returns

046that column that I was showing before that is showing that we're gaining some students in first second third grade and so forth well what if all the kids that were out of the district for coveted years maybe they all have returned so if that Trend doesn't continue we have to we have to monitor that that's why next year is a very very critical year in fact when we get to October next year we need to be looking very closely at our count to determine what is the pattern moving forward and we talk about that being a really important um Benchmark it actually says 24 25 really next year 23-24 is actually even more important than that if we start to see that the trend is going to hold true to what Miranda is forecasting based

047on a very conservative enrollment count and a conservative budget then we would have to adjust our staffing model and or make other reductions because it's important to us that we want to stabilize and keep our fund balance at a certain level hey Steve just a point of clarification real quick when you say next October you mean next fiscal year so this October 2023. yes yes okay I just want to make sure because it's not yeah when we get that account right when we get the account coming up for the next school year yep in this just for anybody watching them like yep okay and then we're being cognizant of this financial cliff and you're going to see that more when you start to see the budget that Miranda presents again we're in we're in good

048Financial shape now it's the question of what happens if all these variables um go go another way go go in a Direction that's not as favorable for the district uh we're also going to be doing an enrollment study we also want to determine why do families leave the district and and sometimes that might be because they've moved other times it may be because they um have a philosophical uh difference with the district and we want to find that information out we also want to find out what families what what do they care most about what are they want to see you know through the teaching staff and so forth and then that will translate into a potential marketing plan I was at a superintendent's conference in January and met up with Galapagos marketing who I've

049since turned over to Anna who's going to help run this study but more or less they do they go into districts and they find the families that have left over the years and they ask those questions why have you left what you know what what's going on there and they go through that process because we want to get that data as well we want to know we want to know not only yes we've we've lost some students I would say by attrition because of birth rate and the fact that there's less school-aged population students but if there are 50 students out there that are no longer going to the Saline Area Schools what are the what are the reasons we want to know we want to know that information so we're moving forward with a

050enrollment study coming up in the next couple of months okay I'm trying to move forward Ben can you move that forward okay okay so now we're going to move into school of choice because it does all play into enrollment so as all of you know we've been using School of Choice as an opportunity to have other students come into the district but it also is associated with a financial structure in other words if we have a certain number of students coming in each year we bank that into the budget and that as we move forward we have to consider well if we have less students coming in from School of Choice how does that impact the structure of the budget so we look at kind of what's the gist of school of choice and that

051students coming in as school of choice would need to be within the Washington County School District area to be eligible and it's important to know that we don't discriminate based on factors listed here in the non-discrimination Clause we do look at discipline records though that we do take a look at that and we state that in advance that a student has a certain discipline record and we were to make a contact with the previous sister can find out information we decide that we are not going to take that student that is within our purview uh this is one of our last slides so so this is the recommendation moving forward for this year and I'll I'll go forward with that um we're recommending that we have zero um openings at Young fives because we're committed

052to having three sections of young fives and we feel that that needs to go to all our residents so we're we're not having openings in in that grade level but in kindergarten uh that we would have a minimum opening number of 20 as in the past and potentially moving forward we're recommending that that is the area where we want to take most of our students coming in to the district and then a minimum opening of one at all the other grade levels moving down to 12th grade which would represent 36 minimum openings for this upcoming school year now I did go back and look at a few other statistics last year we took 73 students that well that have actually enrolled here 73 enrolled in School of Choice last year or this current school year

053uh the total number of students in SAS enrolled in School of Choice district-wide is 396. now we also have around another 100 that are non-resident students that generally is Teachers students that maybe live in another district and then come in to the district that we allow that as well our total Power School enrollment is 4802 Mandy Rocky gathers that information and I bring that number up because you're going to see a slightly different number that Miranda presents because she goes through balancing and Blended count and it's a little different than the actual Power School enrollment so you're going to see a slightly diff different number there which you could explain at that point but this is the recommended moving forward now there were questions about well we we have a guideline to stay around 10

054percent of the district would not be over this is around 10 percent now it's give or take a little bit of that I also did look that we don't have a policy that states that we have a School of Choice policy but doesn't State the part about 10 percent so some trustees were asking about well do we want to actually put that into policy if if that was something that people wanted us to do you could ask the policy committee to explore that but right now it's it's more or less considered a guideline or a recommendation so that that's where we land here anyway so this is the recommendation moving forward we feel that this allows us some flexibility to take 36 students but we may you know want to take more based on how

055we see enrollment coming in again it's a balancing act between trying to get our structure right moving forward and so that's what we consider here uh and then finally the application process is April 3rd to May 2nd it's a month period of time and that we do a lottery on May 8th right here at 10 A.M to draw the names and get the order in terms of how people could come into the district and that is it can I take questions all right all right I have a few uh number one so the first thing I noticed was 21 to 22 to 22 23 for young fives we have a number of 91 and then 59 going forward yep so we just did we make it as like can you explain that yeah we were

056moving down to I mean we had smaller numbers of young fives kids coming in that next year and then that was the point where we have now said okay we feel like this is about the right number of students for the young fives I will say this young fives Works between the birthdays of August 1st and December 1st but we had expanded that to go more into June and July birthdays which kind of equated to that bigger number in previous years and the reality is we had designed young fives to be more on that August 1st to December first window and we wanted to stay true to that moving forward so that would more or less account for why this is that drop there all right number two um timeline on the enrollment study I

057like this idea and I think it's good for us to develop marketing plans and when is the timeline for implementing that or yeah it's a couple a couple month time frame but we are going to be working on doing it this spring yeah we feel like we need to get that information and then that would help us be making decisions moving forward in more into next year again next year is critical especially when we get to our student count we want to know all of that information and and potentially if we get that information and find out like these are some things you could do to bring back students that you know doesn't compromise the vision and mission of the district we will want to try to do that yeah and then a couple of

058comments in the last question so um the 20 students for our School of Choice goal for for kindergarten that does reflect the fact that when we capture students right we tend to keep them right so I think that that's a good stewardship of us to to attempt to to do that and to and to put our focus of our quote-unquote minimum openings there so just my thoughts on that but I think we we retain them is that generally true yeah yeah retain when they come into the district now I will point out that our our capture rate is around 60 to 70 percent of school of people who apply to School of Choice if they are awarded a spot only 60 to 70 percent actually enroll So in theory if we awarded 40 spots in

059kindergarten we should expect to get 28 ish actually enrolled that's just how the pattern's been for the last over 10 years and then I will back up Steve and speak as the from the treasurer's standpoint about 23 24 I agree being an important important Benchmark and I don't want to take too much away from what you're going to see on the budget amendment a little bit but from a standpoint of one-time funds and from a standpoint I mean the only thing we can do folks to for from a revenue standpoint right is enrollment I mean it's the number one thing that we have that drives our our budget so I do think 2324 especially when you couple that with the fact that we can't live on one-time federal funds we'll be we'll be it will

060be a down it will be a delicate Balancing Act going forward right right and then the last thing I I will ask you about is I did the quick math I have 8.25 if I did the math 396 out of 40 4802 do you happen to know the number this might be a tough one but number graduating School of Choice in 2223 versus the 73 we anticipate wait we took 73 is that correct yeah through this past year has that been a pretty stableish number that's been what we've been taking around 60 to 70 each year but I did look the number up we have 34 that are graduating 34 graduating now there's another point of though it depends which number you're looking at if you're looking at the school of choice only number it's

0618.2 percent if you look at the school of choice plus non-residence it's around 10 okay thank you very much appreciate it about how many people annually apply to have their students be considered for School of Choice um I would say we get around this varies but um 120 ish and we don't take all of them and last year example we did not take 20 kindergarteners who applied how do we publicize School of Choice and would marketing be part of that like with the marketing study be toward well I think to be honest I don't think we want to Market it more because we have an if I mean in theory if we know we we can only take a certain number we already get over the number um already so it's it's on the website

062early on in the process and Mandy Rocky in the Enrollment Office helps to monitor it we have a form that people fill out if they're interested and then once it is if it's approved by the board of education then Mandy emails those families and said it's been approved and it's going to be on and the application is on the website so that's the process and looking at the um enrollment study in terms of why do families leave I think what do families want gets into like what would people deciding which district to move into want or who live in the district and are deciding whether to actually send their kids to public school here in the district but I'm wondering is there any kind of study that the city of Celine or the general area

063is doing or wider study that data we could gather as to what makes people decide to actually move here and you know people with young families specifically because I think that would also be important data not just who are we losing but who doesn't move here yeah or doesn't consider buying a house here Etc I do feel like we're capturing that a different way this study is aimed to look at why families have laughed and what do they want and that kind of thing but the way we get that information is um through our our culture and climate and academic survey that we do at the end of each year and then Cara works with the teaching and learning team with K-12 insight and they design a survey that really asks all these questions like

064how do you feel this is going in other words we get enough information from that survey to tell us what we're doing well and that's a big number of parents that answer it and so we we then interpret that data as okay these are the things that our current residents and and those that are in the district um like about the school district and that we would want to make sure we're doing more of because we're asking those questions in that survey this is what I'm saying well so I had a couple questions but I guess since we're on this topic um specifically about um data that was captured maybe it was before superintendent and Graden left um and there were some exit questions when um families decided to leave the district is are we

065still capturing that or I mean I didn't think the information that we received was concrete or significant it was just kind of some things thrown out there broadly so but I don't know if you've captured it yeah no that's that's a good question we have tried to capture some of that data I think the issue is it's sporadic on who answers our request so we're getting a lot of incomplete information and that's the hopes of the enrollment study that they are more aggressive and going after and learning why families have left and have more time to do it frankly that they go out but I mean it's a good question we have tried but I feel like it is sporadic we put together a spreadsheet where we said you know moved or you know went

066to a private school but but it you know if you only get 40 percent of the students who leave to do that it doesn't it's not giving us a clear enough picture or maybe the only ones to answer it or yeah right or maybe or maybe not maybe the other way they are they don't want to answer it so we want to we want to know more so um just uh so another question I don't know what slide it is I'm trying to pull it up um not a question just something I I wanted to point out um was those numbers I guess I wouldn't say postcovid but um during craziness of covid and shutting down and online learning and everything that you know I was proud of seeing Celine schools not lose as many

067um students as you know all of Washington or those other districts so um you know I think that's significant I'm glad we captured some of that um you know uh Regional and state data because I think that's important when you know you are like I've said before receiving like criticism you know that like everybody's just leaving because of you know whatever reason somebody wants to pin it on but it's like no this this is you know this is definitely a trend and um we did good um I mean it's not good that any schools are kind of losing um people but uh and students but um yeah I think that's important really important to note so thanks for including that sure uh when I first came to Celine um you know it was still very

068rural and since then lots of neighborhoods have been built and now we're continuing to see kind of the expansion of the footprint so there's building going on North on Maple there's building going on West of town how how has that in the past I know for a while in the you know 20 years ago I'm aging myself it really impacted enrollment I don't know now in the last few years as we have a neighborhood here or there going out does it do you see that that has an impact or or it's kind of an you know um it does have an impact but it takes a number of years to see the return because often either the homes are too expensive for a first-time buyer or the first time buyer has if they can't afford

069it they generally have young kids that aren't school age yet so it I mean yeah you'll see uh it will translate it's just a win and it's usually not you know the subdivision gets built 200 homes go in and all of a sudden you have a big boom in enrollment the next year usually takes a while to speak things um got a few questions uh the enrollment study I like that idea I do agree kind of like with what Susan was saying with the exit interviews I mean it's studies only gonna be as good as the people that return all the information so that's going to be you know hopefully this outside group will be able to um kind of hone in on some of that the 89 students in 1920 that we lost were

070claiming that is closure for covet but wouldn't that have been captured the student count captured prior to the closing to covid um it's just identifying that that's the year of the year that it happened you're right that could have been the trend that was developing before I mean because the student count generally is happening in October and you could say well covid actually was a December you know it all kicked in later um it's just we're we're looking at those years as the covert years okay but and then the 178 and the 101 those are obviously the coveted years and I think there's a lot of parents that yeah homeschooled they did you know all kinds of different things we feel we've got any of them back because I know we were hoping we were

071gonna back when this all started we were hoping we get more back it's it's a good question but now looking at it with 41 down in 22-23 where did we capture but that's but yeah that's the misleading part that's what I was trying to go with that column in between the blue and the 22 23. that in my estimation represents the covidation should have come back no but you're you're still even though that in theory is a 99 gain 99 in the good for the district that still represents a loss because you're moving forward these graduating classes that are larger and they're exiting the district we'd have to kind of crunch those numbers together to show that a little bit more in other words I feel like that is the game back from from those

072were the kids that were potentially out for covid now they're back and that represented a 99 more total but that also is not offset by the larger graduating classes and the smaller class coming in we'd have to go look at the the numbers because it does look like 21 22. it looks like 435 we're in the senior class 327. yeah and that starts carrying forward so so there are yeah I don't just yeah I mean I think that we definitely have a bigger graduating class and that's why we've seen the enrollment at probably its peak was probably what 50 350 400. um before that it probably could have been more than that we just went six years that sounds about right though in between 5253 yeah so so we've been declining for years I guess

073one of the things that I saw in the my school data chart that's kind of alarming to me is the number of Resident students that are not enrolled in Saline schools you've always had a nominal number of those students that go to private schools or whatnot but the the number like in 21 to 2021-2022 that increased like by 23 percent and I don't know what the it doesn't show what the data is for the 22-23 year so I'm curious on that as well right um the percentage the 10 I think I've asked you about that and um because that was one thing that was always commented and talked about in the previous boards I'm wondering if that got missed with the masb roll over to the Neola I actually don't think it was ever discussed

074in a policy meeting in other words it was I think it was just more of a guideline discussion I I believe because if you look at our school of choice policy it doesn't talk about the 10 anywhere so the question is is previously what was the you know recommendation of the time from superintendent grade in and he was that moving forward to policy and I I try I couldn't find an admissions policy in Neil I think it just boils down to whether we're gonna season my hip revisit it to see that it's in policy or not so I have an email maybe it was um trustee steben as well um an email communication where we were trying to figure out that policy right and where it was because we all right about the 10 and

075I believe it was yeah it was administrative and maybe associated with the contract um versus written into policy but I'll go back and and because I keep my emails and find that um information to where that 10 came from because we were totally confused about it but yeah it's not within the policy itself yeah I couldn't find in the policy and I couldn't find anything on an admissions policy in Neola so so anyway so that that whole 10 percent thing has got me struggling with the school of choice right now and our our enrollment or our non-residents our residents that are enrolled in other schools I think so ideally for me the enrollment study would come before we had to vote on this because I'd really like to know that but um so I'm struggling

076with the idea of uh moving forward I almost want to pump the brakes on the School of Choice myself but that's my opinion yeah I mean you bring up the point about uh if if the data you gathered a 23 percent of increase in students that live in Saline going to another school another school or home school in 2122 um the question is how many of those kids did we get back I believe we got back a fair number that would be that middle column but those are all things we have to figure out in that enrollment study to your point the issue with waiting though is we need to um make some determination for people that potentially want to be in the district next year that it probably isn't um feasible for us to

077do this enrollment study and then quickly turn it around and offer up School of Choice or not in that short window of time so because that's just the reality of it right now okay um here it is as the discussion that you guys had so my understanding when we came on the board was that this at this meeting we approved each time that 10 percent um so I wonder if there's any way that it could be rewarded to say something like um 10 percent or the percentage of non-resident students who are choosing other options like whichever is the highest percentage so for example if if we have the 10 percent then we can capture 10 through school of choice but if there is like 12 percent of uh residents students who are choosing other options

078we could bump that number to 12. I don't know I mean I think in theory you could we could do whatever the board wants to do with that but again this isn't it's not a policy it's a guideline so I guess what I'm recommending is regardless we're in the neighborhood of that 10 right now um we're not at 15 or 18 um I still recommend moving forward with this with those 36 minimum openings and granted to your points in it'd be nicer to have that enrollment data but the reality is we won't in time and that again we could make an adjustment for the following school year with how we handle School of Choice based on just knowing a lot more information well and ultimately if we don't move forward and have this available for

079the application to begin in April other places are going to have the applications available and so we run the risk of losing students who potentially get claimed in a lottery before we can have our ours so I I would you know I think that it's a good plan I support the plan and it will be nice I think moving forward I appreciate the work that you're doing so that moving forward we will have more information as we look forward to these years in blue get bread go ahead and then I have a question so I I support I support the plan too and uh but the one thing that kind of jumped up and I started thinking about it when when you were discussing things with Dr Lodge when I look for recapture and help

080me with this when I look at 291 20 to 21 and then a jump to 327 at kindergarten I bet we I if I had to make a guess about what we did was there were people that held back their their student did not enroll during the covid times and then we recaptured some of those students right then and there is that a faulty assumption do you think I mean it could it could it could be in theory people could Jump Right In after kindergarten it could be that more were in young fives and less than kindergarten it could just be a smaller class that's why this is we that's why it's really important to look at the trend patterns and not only focus in on one grade to the next it's really about what's

081been the pattern and again that's why I'm talking about it's important for the district to get to that stabilization point which more or less means two years in a row of flat or increasing growth that's what we're working towards is is there a maximum School of Choice that you'll you'll accept I know the minimum was what 31 or something like that yeah I mean just historically we structure the budget between 60 and 70. in other words 73 students is about six hundred and forty thousand dollars if you know so like that that's built into the budget now it doesn't mean we have to take that many but the budget is built around that it does mean that if we if we take less which we we might um we would have to figure out the

082structure of you know if we took 50 instead of 73 you take the 23 difference from the previous year you multiply by 9 100 about for each per people expenditure you're in the neighborhood of a hundred and eighty thousand dollars to the structural you know bad so to speak again that's all factored into how we play it out into the budget amendment that's Miranda's going to show and that it's just a consideration that we would have to have that that would be part of the structure that would need to be addressed I had two questions um the first question is your current recommendation does that affect class sizes in any way um well not differently than previous years we're still trying to keep with our general structure which is to keep it lower at Early

083Elementary and and to be honest when we get into the Heritage grades class size does get higher I mean the strategy is still the same regardless of this School of Choice model things and then the other thing is I really we talked about this in finance but I really like the idea of using a third party for for a survey and I was wondering when they do that if you can reconcile that with the student accent data from January 12 2021 it's the report that Scott did I found it we talked about it in the finance committee so the last time we did a similar survey was January 2021 when he reported on that I think it would be interesting to kind of look at that data um and just kind of compare yeah they're

084going back though in previous years to try to gather people that have left before 2021 so in other words you'd be looking at data that you got some data that's been gathered yeah but you're going to capture all of that and more by going back to those that left in 2018 and such so I mean we can go back and try to do that especially if we're hiring a third party it'd be interesting to China just sure okay okay yeah Susan so I found it I'm gonna answer all your questions so um I looked back on the communication um that we had had about um where did this 10 come from and so at that time I didn't find anything in the policy in former 2019 guidelines when it was approved but it does come

085up in the Celine post um thank you Tran Longmore for writing this article uh December 11 2013. so there was a policy approved at that point that capped at the 10 overall District population um but as as you mentioned we adopted Neola from masb in 2018. yeah so I think that just got scratched somewhere yeah so so good point to potentially go back and revisit that if we want to add that into the current School of Choice policy that's cool all right any questions all right thank you I I think if we have that conversation in policy I think it's important that Finance be involved hand in hand with that because there is some necessary like we have to make sure that we have stabilized finances in addition to our conversation about enrollment like they

086really do go hand in hand together so that would be important I think for the finance team but in the future have a special meeting just the whole board in general whenever we get that to that point yeah sure okay thank you thank you moving on to our second and final scheduled report sex ed Advisory Board survey results Kristin Hoffman peebler and principal Michelle chuckwitz good evening I'm Michelle chakowitz I'm the principal of Celine middle school but also the co-chair of our sex ed Advisory Board here for Saline Area Schools now I certainly can guarantee that I will not be as exciting as our multimedia group because they are fantastic and I hope to be as riveting as Dr lachowas but as a safeguard I have brought with me my co-chair my parent co-chair Kristen

087Hoffman Peter so hi board hey thank you so much for having us we have committed we've finished our in our survey of our community and we're here to share a summary of those results and the more detailed results will be available on the website in the next week or so in today's presentation hope you can go to the next slide we're going to focus on four areas we're going to talk about the survey rationale and the goals oh thank you for doing that for me um the process that we followed a summary of our results and what our next steps are as a sex ed Advisory Board all right so for our rationale we know that per our Michigan compiled laws for schools 380.1507b um that there is a standard of minimum instructional expectations we

088call them the a through K minimum because they are listed in law under a letter system an alphabetical system so we know that the salinary school sex ed curriculum should be designed to meet the needs of our student population which could include topics beyond the a through K minimum requirements so this survey was designed to ask that question of our school Community stakeholders does our curriculum meet our students needs and is it aligned with the district's Mission set forth by the district as a whole so our survey goals were to gather data on the following topics we are interested in finding out the student perception of the efficacy of our current High School curriculum or the current curriculum they have received through their K-12 education as well as the community and staff preferred grade level

089of teaching the required a through K learning different sex education topics from the parent and staff community so they wanted their preferred grade level of when to teach those topics the third area that we looked at was the perceived importance of the topics that are required by Michigan law we also looked at the perception of the current curricula and their adherence to our district commitment to diversity equity and inclusion and then we ask other topics that may be missing from the current curricula by asking open-ended questions from our community the process we also use a third party so we partnered with K-12 Insight which is a surveying company that the district has used in the past and we are part of that unique cycle of working with that company and they've been a partner with

090us through many many years for district-wide surveys they are trusted and known advisor and our stakeholders are familiar with their process the sex ed Advisory Board stuttered studied other District surveys and that helped design our questions and how we would survey our community we asked guardians of our current salinary school students we asked our staff members across the board and we asked our current high school students we also surveyed we also looked and specifically wrote a survey for each group and we completed a survey in December we also allowed early email notifications for family throughout all district Communications district-wide as well as building wide and offered a guardian opt-out for parents who were uncomfortable with their students taking the survey K-12 Insight was very pleased with our response rate from each group stating that this

091is considered healthy participation for our area so you can see that our parent gardening group we had a 35 response rate our staff we had a 28 response right our students was a 14 response rate remember it was optional to respond it was not mandated so as we take a look at some of the results that came in our first question we looked at what grades should we start teaching a developmentally appropriate sex education curriculum and you can see that the vast number of our families as well as our staff took a look at that fourth fifth and sixth grade area is that core time to really teach that comprehensive curriculum making sure that our students have all the skills and a robust sex ed curriculum to move forward and be successful then we took

092a look at each of those a through K standards and so for ease of reading we highlighted the highest percentages in each category in red and you can note that there are also orange percentages and those came within 10 percent of the high so they are also highly indicated with maybe just a slight inch out by the red and it's interesting to see that the topics that our parents and guardian Community would like taught was closely aligned with our staff as well so all of the adults and stakeholders really saw the value and and felt similarly in those areas so you can see as you look down that six through eight age in each of those a through K areas was an area that our community felt was important to teach sex ed curriculum but

093also there were some key areas for example this lower one teaching refusal skills and encouraging students to resist pressure that they really felt should start at a much younger grade looking at 16 percent in young fives through grade three and 22 percent in grades four and five we continue following that same model and you can see again some areas people felt it was important to start at a younger grade level and one of those areas was teaching students that they have the power to control their personal Behavior and again 21 there 24 for grade four five and that key area six through eight forty percent our staff felt the same way you're going to see the same pattern here so their responses they feel the balkot topic should be addressed starting in middle school that

094is not currently the case however they have the same pattern where even starting in young fives and four five students would be taught refusal skills and encourage them to resist pressure to engage in Risky Behavior so starting that at a very young age and again the next slide follows that same pattern teaching students that they have the power to control their personal behavior and base their actions on reasoning young fives in grades four or five with 22 and 27 respectively and then you can also see that it follows the same pattern as our parent and guardian views I'll turn things over to Kristen to get into the meat more graphs are you excited it's really exciting um so what you're looking at here are student responses we asked them if they were taught not how

095they were taught how great was it how bad was it just if they remember being taught and you'll notice the yellow and the gray are no and don't know so for a whole lot of these topics you can see that kids do not remember whether or not they were taught or they said absolutely not we were not taught now we happen to know that all of these topics are required by the state of Michigan and they are in our current curriculum but to the seab we um we think that we can do better here we think that we can find a curriculum that or tweak our curriculum that is going to be more effective and more um well received by the students and memorable this continues the a through K whether they have learned or

096not the topic and you can see yet again a lot of yellow and gray here where the curriculum just did not stick with the students yep are we good to move okay now this one we ask them to rate the quality of instruction green excellent blue good yellow and red fair and poor I think it's important to note the yellow and red and if we're looking at this and saying let's look at the top one for example um eighty percent of kids said yeah I was taught the benefit of abstinence great that's great that means that out of a class of 30 most of them can remember that their choices matter and that there are benefits to making choices now if you look at the next one down I was talking about the emotional economical

097and legal consequences of sex there are 33 percent of kids in that room who didn't feel like they really learned that didn't feel really feel like there is an emotional connection to sex that there are emotional consequences to sex there are economic or legal consequences and that means in a class of 30 there are um oh let's do the math quick 209 thank you Mrs Miller there are nine kids in that class that don't remember this content so it is our opinion that um the curriculum can that we can improve this as a district that we can improve the number of kids in class who are getting effective and memorable sex ed moving on same question and you can see the same thing about a third 25 to 30 percent of kids do not feel

098that they received excellent or good instruction in each of these a through K topics onward these are the final three same pattern just about a third the next graphs here we're switching to circles I really like pie charts this is asking questions of each stakeholder group on the left you have parents and Guardians in the middle is staff and students are on the right we asked two questions one does our curriculum meet the needs of our dis our diverse student population and does it fit the district's commitment to equity and inclusion the graphs were nearly identical so what you're looking at now is just question B does it fit the commitment we chose to pair out the other question because they're literally within one or two points of each other for all three pie charts

099so you're basically looking at both answers right now I think it's really important to note that in the yellow and gray section gray is I don't know if it meets the needs of our diverse population the yellow is I disagree or I strongly disagree so to me the most important thing and to Michelle the most important thing is looking at that student graph on the right how much yellow there is there that a third of our students 32 percent of our students say we're not meeting the needs we're not living up to the mission that the district has set forth um and with the parents Guardians and staff the majority of them didn't know they just weren't sure I think that we can do better next slide so we also asked for some open-ended feedback

100if they put down a disagree or strongly disagree answer the adults were able to provide some open-ended feedback and the students were also able to do that we were extraordinarily proud of the student responses to this survey while we received um according to K-12 a robust 14 of respondents the the commentary that the kids left were deep and thoughtful and long um I've highlighted three here and I would like to read them as we look at this summary of their comments the first quote is health class should never be about convincing students to not have sex but instead teaching them how to be safe when they inevitably become adults and make that decision next quote we only really talk about how just white straight people what about people from other countries what about people in

101the lgbtq plus community and the third one how to report sexual assault to a trusted adult or the police teach more about consent clearly we're lacking in that education if you're looking at these comments which are in alphabetical order on there the kids are clamoring for more information they are asking for more information than currently we are providing in our district I also want to note that it was quite alarming how many of the comments asked for more information around sexual assault and Dating Violence it was alarming to me the number of people that felt courageous enough to say it in their survey that means that there's a lot more kids out there statistically we know that if one person mentions assault there are 10 people behind them that are ready with their own stories

102or the stories of their friends that's a problem I mean our goal in our district is to make sure that our kids are healthy happy and safe and they need more of the safe part here continuing on the parent summary of comments these were the top eight um themes that came through the timeline when do we start teaching there were a number of of parents that wanted sex had to start earlier in a developmentally appropriate way there were some that wanted it to start later um they wanted more information to start those soft skills the SEL social emotional learning skills how to say no how to make your own choices how to be responsible and accountable for your actions all of those are part of a comprehensive sex ed curriculum but those things can be

103taught in a much earlier timeline in a very developmentally appropriate way the way that we say keep your hands to yourself when you're in your circle that's a young five skill number two consent healthy relationships and safety number three less shame there were many staff and Guardians that talked about how the curriculum right now is designed to shame people who choose to have sexual lives as teenagers they they asked specifically for Less shame within the curriculum there was a large contingent that asked to avoid abstinence only messaging resistance to instruction there were parents that said we don't want to have our kids be part of sex and in school and fortunately we do absolutely respect the right of every family to decide not to have their kids participate and also to have the kids decide

104I don't want to participate that's a really important choice for families and for students number six student resources making more Health Resources info available and including what we talked about earlier reporting abuse and assault number seven more inclusion embedded into the curriculum especially as it concerns the lgbtq plus populations that was a common theme throughout all three surveys and also introducing the idea of Technology and Safety when it comes to sex and sexual relationships sexting porn inappropriate texts grooming from adults all these different parts that links into sex trafficking which is a big problem in Michigan and in our nation parents are asking especially for that and staff are too our kids are sexting back and forth as much as we don't want to think of them as sexual creatures when you start putting kids

105all together and they start growing up and their hormones start flaring it is normal and natural for humans to have sexual feelings for each other we can't ignore that with our kids so being able to help them be safe in the technological world that we live in that our generation did not have to deal with is really really really really really important next slide can I just go back yeah yeah I think also that came out of that parent summary is just the importance of teaching students how to be safe with their technology and recognizing that sexting is a crime and making sure I think a lot of our students are unaware of that yes thank you yeah thank you um at the staff summary Commons is um very consistent with the parents and Guardians

106they are grouped a little bit differently by K-12 but the same general themes are there consent start that conversation earlier safe technology usage student-focused issues those fourth and fifth grade teachers would love more time to talk about hygiene the social emotional learning around puberty and sex and dating how how does it work to to build relationships that may be dating relationships with your peers and just how do we respect each other around the time that our bodies and our minds and our selves are changing so much having more resources for sexual health and again that abuse and assault reporting less shame was another theme lgbtq plus info and inclusion within the curriculum the staff one and that as well and then there were staff that were also resistant to having sex ed instructed at all

107in schools um and I don't know if you mentioned that this survey went out to every single person that works in salinary schools it was not just classroom teachers it was every employee in the district all right so lots of information for our seat up just sort through and take a look at um so what are our next steps the first thing is we really believe in transparency we understand the community's desire for transparency particularly surrounding the topic of sex education so we are going to publish these results on our district website in the curriculum area where we have all of the sex ed Advisory Board documents so we will publish this results for any Community member or any board member or anyone who wants to take a look and dive deep to see what

108those surveys results were the second piece our ceb is going to continue to review our current curriculum at each grade level and identify those gaps in content so that we can assure alignment with our district Mission and policy and the a through K requirements and then our third piece is we are coming to the end of our term and it has really been a very successful term we um as a as a board I could not be prouder of the members who dedicated their time who volunteered their efforts who withstood um some barbs that were out there as they went to make a recommendation for curriculum for a population of students that did not have curriculum available to them so we were able to present that to the board for approval we were able to

109complete our program evaluation even given the nature of covid shutting us down and looking that we were able to complete that program evaluation and publish that on the district website in 2021 so we were happy to do that we were able to put together this survey which I think was a really robust survey covering all of the aspects of state required as well as the district's Mission and values and getting that together so I think it's been a really successful see ab and I'm really proud of the CIA but we are all coming to the end of our term now June 1st so things are wrapping up so there will be a new CF appointed for this spring and they will serve for the next three-year term so it's our goal to come together and

110give them some topic areas to take a look at where we've identified those gaps so that we can have that continuity in the service that we provide to the community that's it so thank you questions questions comments oh let's let Allison go first so at first I just want to kind of summarize over the summary of the results and I think I especially agree with the notion that you know we shouldn't just focus solely on abstinence because I think it's called sex education and not abstinence education for a reason because I do think as if a teenager is going to or if any one is going to make the choice to have sex they're not necessarily going to hear the voice of their ninth grade teacher in their ear telling them that abstinence is the

111only way to avoid blah blah blah and so I think it's more so important to focus on you call them the soft skills of like the emotional connotations of sex and how you know so many issues with sexual assault I feel like can be avoided with just more information because I was a Cadet teacher at the middle school last year and so many of my students just didn't understand that their behaviors were dangerous and that their behaviors were harmful to themselves and to other people especially online and I think that's just because they don't have those conversations with their teachers or their families and if they have those conversations with their friends well they don't know either and so I think frankly the issue here is a lack of information and again I think that

112is reflected in the survey results in that you know even if you disagree with the information just knowing that there are other Alternatives in that the world is different than it was in 2004 and we know more things and there's a different societal norm and I think that I would definitely agree that I think more information is kind of always a better thing with things like this thank you thanks yeah we agree I just wanted to thank the committee for their tireless work and trying to keep our students healthier and move on to be healthier adults I'm hardened by the uh I think acceptance and you know understanding by mostly adults who are took the survey that this is important curricula I wanted to clarify that a through K being required that means it's required

113for the schools to teach it but it is not required for students to learn it is that correct that is a great question so any District that teaches sex ed sex education curriculum is required to teach those a through case standards however all parents have the right to review the materials in advance to observe the instruction or to Omit their child from instruction without penalty so it is not required that every student participate parents have that right and we respect that white that right wholeheartedly yeah I was pretty sure that that was the case based on everything I know everything you said but I just since it said required I just thought I might clarify um so our current curricula was last reviewed or like instituted in what year I think the last change to

114our curriculum was made in 2011. okay and that was bringing in the Michigan model if I'm not mistaken and so the program is evaluated and reviewed every two years with the program evaluation tool but not necessarily changed or adjusted okay excellent well thank you again for your work and uh also a thanks to the teachers who do a great job of trying to implement these recommendations it's not the easiest of topics so thank you I didn't know if you nodded me um first I want to just um thank the two of you for your leadership but also the entire seab or Seb I know the two of you have different differing opinions on how you say that but I just want to thank the entire committee because I think that um as as has been

115stated your work has your efforts have been tireless and have um have really um you know your work on the survey particularly tonight but more importantly I think uh your work to bring a curriculum to us for a population of students who didn't have access to this before just is priceless and so I just want to thank you wholeheartedly for bringing that to our students and of course with the option for parents um you know to review and and omit curriculum so um thank you for that I think that's really important and mostly because it um elevates the level of safety and skills that our students have around decision making in this area I also just wanted to say since you mentioned 2011 that a lot has changed in more than a decade especially with

116some of the topics that you brought up for example technology usage so I do think your work with this survey and the survey results indicate to us that um some work is is needed especially in that area along with other areas too but I'm just thinking about my own personal usage of technology in the last decade and our kids are even more Adept at using technology and like you said not skilled or maybe don't have the information needed to protect themselves both in a safe way in safe ways and in in legal ways so we've seen that in news reports and all sorts of things and so we want to you know at least Elevate that uh those skills so that safety is more available I guess for our students I I know I want

117to say the word insure we can't ensure because they're they're human beings and I always say to my kids that even good people can make mistakes or can make decisions that they didn't plan on and so this work that you're doing is helping them to formulate decisions ahead of those high pressure situations where they might not act in a way that they would have if they hadn't had a chance to process it before so thank you again it has been if you had asked me before I started on the scene what your time I would never have said oh I'm going to dive into sex ed curriculum like ever but it has been such a profound experience to get to work with community members and staff and admin and bring all of these different people

118from our community together to talk about things that are really difficult to talk about and very personal and this particular board has been really good at taking themselves to vulnerable places and trusting the people in the room to have their backs to talk about things that are really really personal and um it has it has just been a profound experience for me personally to be able to be part of it so for those of you listening and those of you in the room this is a really great committee to be volunteering for so the applications will be coming out in April and you're right Jenny the kids trustee Miller um that yeah um the our goal is to give kids the feathers on their wings to be able to fly away and be successful humans

119outside of our um our bubble in our space here in Saline and in our families and schools and if we don't like Ali said if we don't arm them with information to be able to stand in the high pressure situation with confidence and say this is what I need this is what I want it doesn't matter if we're talking about sex or the classes that we take or the people that we hang out with or the choices that we make on the weekends all of this circles back into really great human skills and that's the goal and then I just wanted I'm sorry I just want to add really really quickly I want to thank the district and the community for pulling in the bridge to civility because it truly was the bridge to civility

120Norms that we practice at every meeting that provided the platform for each and every member of the CF to make sure that we are respectively we are respectfully valuing everyone's opinion and I think the group has done a great job with that and I I really give a lot of credit to our bridge to civility norms Fred can I build off of one thing that Jenny said and then we'll go we'll go to you and then I can come back to my other two quick things I just wanted to build on Tech safety because this is something that we as a board don't necessarily need to wait for a sex ed Advisory Board to say this is what we should do they should talk about it as well um but it really resonates with me

121what Allison says and I know this firsthand kids don't know what's not legal or or what kind of trouble that could get we need to do more work this even came up at a foundation for Saline Area Schools meeting and talking about what would be good for kids so I would challenge us as a board to think about what we can do with Partners on the sex ed Advisory board or the foundation or any other Wellness committee etc etc I think that we should be talking about tech safety a little bit more um because it's an issue I I Alison I definitely agree so Brad go ahead okay so a couple of things number one I'm also really proud of this to the team and I'm really proud that I was a part of you

122know more like on the outside but of being part of the team and I want to thank you too for for your story chip and your leadership the district has benefited greatly from it so thank you okay uh you know there's a couple things in my name number one I would appreciate um lots of data lots of numbers I'd appreciate a copy of of the presentation it's a lot for me to process in a hurry and and that is that uh so I have a couple of things number one for me I I think about the um also about technology in 2011 and how technology has changed significantly can you speak and especially in your opinion to some of the we made some pretty like some changes with regards to cell phones and technology in

123the classroom and in the school has that been a positive change with regards to the mission of seab and sex ed so yes absolutely I think it's definitely been a positive change and in moving forward and and trying to minimize the personal social media cell phone use during the school day but I also think it's really important that we met that we remember that many many students I don't want to say all but I will say most are armed with their cell phone device and and have that with them at all times and they have group chats and they're a Snapchat and there are all kinds of apps that students don't necessarily have the oversight of an adult to help guide them at what's appropriate and and not only are the students themselves engaging in

124some inappropriate behavior that could potentially get them into trouble that they don't realize they don't realize that this snap bad decision might be a felony like I mean that's pretty serious and they may not realize that but also there are predators out there that's right that I think it's really important that just because someone has a cute Snapchat picture and filter and says my name's Jane and I'm 14 it may not necessarily be the case or what have you like there are predators out there and students that unfortunately get roped into this because they're trusting and I think it's really important that we spend spend some time as a district trying to protect our students and to recognize that Danger I really like that and then when I think about 2011 and the Michigan model

125and what however I think about positive consent like affirmative consent and so that is something that I think like when I looked at the results and the data and the what the students were asking for with the families right like that idea of positive of consent um I I'd like to see some some some pot some positive movement in that regard yeah and we we actually had a lot of adults in the survey say we need to alter the idea of consent to be that positive can I sit next to you on the bus yes you can sit next to me on the bus can I hold your hand yes you can hold my hand as opposed to no don't do that no stop what you're doing that's a very different conversation there's there is

126a um give and take that is different than the putting up of walls so I like that I that you brought that up and then the last I like I'm sorry I like positive consent but I also like teaching to respect someone's no no means no and I think it's really important absolutely I'm not saying it but like that is a change I would think from 2011. absolutely it's been a long time since we've so anyway and then the last thing I would say is you kind of hit on this um a pulp any a public you said your terms coming to an end is there anything else you want to add about the process for a new seab Seb whatever they're gonna call it however they like to pronounce it no no says and

127and with Communications we'll send that out to building principles to put out because we want to make sure that this process is open to to parents of students of all ages and the community we'll have Dr Loch put that out in his news and notes we want to spread that message far and wide so that everyone knows that they can apply if they would like to serve in this capacity and the only oh go ahead Susan I was just going to add one last word so if you have a question yeah go ahead that's great yeah you could finish you can finish your thought I was just going to say I wasn't kidding when I said she was a Dynamo she has been an amazing parent co-chair and I just want to recognize that thank

128you so much yes yes um I've talked about how a great how amazing of a team you all have been and um like you said bringing in the the bridges to Civility and tweaking as the committee decided I love that and I share that all the time whenever that comes up um that we were like well that doesn't really work for us you know and tweaking that um and yeah you often like amazing um work um and uh I think we have a great great committee and it's kind of almost sad to see kind of that you know um members probably most members um leaving but um I know that it'll be um Michelle with uh you know bringing on the new team and stuff it's gonna be very smooth um as it was you

129know bringing this group together um so a couple of um things I get comments um so I I did see you know some of the the data that um from our last um see ABS Seb meeting um and one of the things there was you know just kind of a collection of um you know highlights and and one of the things that really like just struck me in um was a comment that and it was again it was it wasn't specific comments like pulled out but kind of Blended together um a student had set or multiple students I'm not sure um had said the only time that um same sex um was mentioned um in the sex ed was specifically on a slide about HIV AIDS I that's probably you know back in the 1990s

130probably what I saw um and you know I'm so thankful for all the data um especially the you know the the students as well um where that came up as a lack of information um and yeah that just that hurt and and really bothered me um and so um I guess thinking about the timeline right um 2011 we had some sort of curriculum pass I know there is curriculum from like that I've seen from like the early 2000s right um and I'm like whoa that's getting close to like the late 90s there which is I'm like um and how you know so many things have changed um in 2017 that was one of the several reasons that um I decided to run for the school board um when uh some I don't know that you

131were part of that then but um where none of the curriculum presented was passed and one of the two hearings was canceled um and uh and that was the lgbtq inclusive piece and so um fast forward 2023 that's six more years so so what we had six years 2000 from 2011 2017. we didn't pass went back to the the drawing board um in 2023 you all had a very successful you know passing of the curriculum for a special education population and that was like fantastic um I'm thinking about the timeline now because what that's 12 years right um what like I feel like you all have accomplished in this group right a lot and are setting the stage for moving into this committee like the next next group but there's going to be all that

132transition or are we looking at a timeline at at this point of okay we're almost ready to to bring recommendations forward um I think this is especially important when in 2021 we passed the Dei advisory committee policy um we have you know our mission our values um all of that and we passed a transgender non-binary students policy um but yet I believe we're still splitting boys and girls you know and so um you know how are you inclusive um you know I've talked to some students who were like they don't like sex ed not because it's sex ed I mean right but they don't see themselves in the curriculum and it just it's it's not okay and when you talk about that I saw one slide and it was about HIV AIDS specifically about the

133gay community it's terrible and we still have laws as far as you know being inclusive that's discriminatory to not yeah I hear what you're saying Susan for sure um so back in 2017 the the biggest issue with the curriculum that they brought forward was less about lgbtq inclusion and more about the fact that that curriculum was written by and presented through Planned Parenthood and that there were peer education there were two but primarily it was the peer Educators and the the fact that it was planned parenthood and the ceab committee heard loud and clear that um having a curriculum written by Planned Parenthood was not something that this committee or this community was um excited about in any capacity being married to an academic and being involved in the schools for so long I can

134assure you that change in Academia is molasses in Winter slow and what we want and the process that we need to go through in order to make the changes happen is always slower than we want it doesn't matter if we're talking about sex ed or a new math curriculum or a new phonics program or getting those things for PE that took a long time too those cute little heart monitor things the kids love those anyway um so the for the timeline I can't tell you right now I can't sit here and say in two years we will have a new curriculum having all the teachers trained and everybody going because we haven't done the work as a committee to go through the current curriculum that we have step by step and say here are the

135gaps this isn't working for our students we have to do that process first that will take we're measuring time in months and then after that we measure time in more months to gather curricula now previous boards have done some of that work already so we do have things to start with it's not an empty basket but we still have to go through that process and we have to do the steps because we want to do it the right way and we want to do it shepherding the community with us so that they feel like they're part of this process because it's their kids that we are teaching and it's their kids that are affected by these changes so I wish that I could say it's going to be next year it will absolutely not be

136next year it may not be for three more years because we have to do it the right way and change has to to um be ushered in in a way that we can get buy-in from all of the people especially the students and the parents who need to be able to be on board with the plan so we're measuring time in months for each step with summers in between so the the bulk of the time we're measuring time in years for sure is it right maybe not depending on legal or following policies right right and your point about the HIV curriculum it for a very long time it has not been true that the bulk of HIV positive people in our country and our world are gay men that has not been true for a

137long time and so by having that in the curriculum we are presenting information that is no longer true which is another check on the column of we need to do better for our students we need to make sure that they have not only more information but good information and correct information I hear what you're saying for sure so I'm gonna yeah okay I just like to add that a couple of thoughts and I know I don't want to take up too much more of your time but I think that you bring up some really important parts parts that a lot of people feel really passionate about and I think it's important to not acknowledge that you're not the only one that feels that way it came up out of the survey enough that it came

138up as a theme so I think that's really important that others are recognizing that yes the laws surrounding sex education curriculum require very specific paths and patterns to be protocols to be followed in order to approve curriculum for sex education it is different than any other area of the content difference in science math anything that there it is a very methodical process to follow that being said I agree we are not starting from scratch and I think the piece that I really heartened by when I think about change is when I look at the results of this survey because I think oftentimes we hear this myth that somehow our our staff is trying to do something that the community doesn't support and we saw in the data our parents and our staff were aligned in

139all of those areas so I think when we look for where we have unity and we look for when we all want to come together to support our students all students I think that is where it is the most uplifting and heartened that everyone wants to come together to provide the best curriculum to make sure our students are protected across the board okay um so so thank you all um to the comment about um I didn't know the lgbtq piece I thought it was completely separate um from the peer piece uh the peer program I know so I know that first hearing didn't even well I mean there was so much hate it um hundreds of people just ridiculous um but the focus wasn't on it was on that Planned Parenthood peer education and um

140the lgbtq piece wasn't even a piece of that and was supposed to be in that second hearing and of course that got canceled and um that yes that was not handled well so um yes that's what I recall from from all of it um so I guess so my question is when we talk about like yeah this is going to take time you know um it has taken a lot of time um over like and and we have gotten a lot of things um in the meantime uh while our numbers of um transgender lgbtq children who are having increased mental illness thoughts of suicide attempts more so than their peers um how are we going to however we can within what curriculum we have here like are we required to split from girls to boys

141what within our curriculum can we do to make those students feel seen during this and feel safe and protected not three years down the road when they're graduated or dead yeah it's a desperate situation for a lot of people and I don't when I talk about timeline I don't want to minimize the daily importance for kids in marginalized groups of all kinds and especially transgender students they have a higher rate of suicide attempts and completions than any other marginalized group out there it is a serious problem um there is no requirement that we split students by gender that is something that is one of those things that has always been and that would be a Heritage admin and teacher conversation to have and I know that they have started talking about it and it could

142be that it's time to have that conversation again that's out of my scope of practice as a parent I guess yeah we have an administrative teaching and learning team and I think um I'll yeah I guess that just a broad statement right yeah rhetorical question for posterity got it yeah urgency any other final thoughts or questions thank you very much thank you thank you thank you um historically two hours in I've done a check so I'm just looking around the room we do have clothes tonight but we do have a few items the budget might take a little bit longer so I just wanted to do a check for a recess I'd like to make a motion for a short recess okay thank you Jenny second I'll second Brad thank you all those in favor

143please say aye aye opposed hearing none motion curies um 6-0 it is 8 32. let's be back here at 8 42. thank you if trustees could return to the board table please Susan we're going to start okay we are back from recess we do not need a motion to come back in because we're not coming back into clothes so we're starting with action items item a I'd like to please entertain emotion to approve the minutes from from the February 14 2023 closed session for the purpose of one collective bargaining under 8C and two for the purpose of the consideration of purchase or lease of real property under 8D of the open meetings Act so move by Estep thank you Brett Austin Tim thanks um I assume there's no discussion on this because it's closed session

144so we will move to procedure with secretary Miller passing out the closed minutes we'll take a moment no that's right we're an open meeting but we're reviewing the closed session minutes per policy and we will take a moment to read these then Jenny will collect them and then we will take vote okay Jenny you all set you have all of them all right all those in favor please say aye aye aye opposed hearing none motion carries six zero I'd like to please entertain emotion to adopt the proposed 20 22 23 general fund budget amendment is submitted by assistant superintendent Housley I'll make it Kirby Brad thank you second Tim thank you um discussion Miranda can go ahead and put that up on the TV there so what you're proving tonight in the action item is

145actually to amend just the 2022-2023 school year the one that we're hearing currently and back in June of last year we approved that preliminary original budget so this is amending the budget we already did um in this document that eventually goes out and gets posted on our transparency page for everyone to see goes through some actuals so we kind of I left I made it a little smaller so I could leave one year pre kind of covet in there as well um and then in the pink green or kind of yellow colors those are just projections that are not being approved that are just there for illustrative purposes in general so looking at that blue column one thing that I want to talk about is just the globalness that our revenues from the Junes numbers

146to today's numbers went up about 9.3 percent and then the expenditures went up 7.4 percent so largely though they're much larger numbers they grew both together partly um due to re-recognizing more Federal um specific Grant dollars and those come with offsetting expenditures and then another piece that continually makes both numbers in the revenue side and the expenditure side grow and Unison is one of the retirement dollars that we get we get it can from the state and then we turn around and pay it right back so it's an equal offsetting thing but that increased a million dollars from last year in my original budgets I always keep them just exactly the same because it goes across every single solitary line item that every salary goes so it's a complicated process and it goes to every

147single line throughout our whole budget and in general like I said it's offsetting is always equal net revenues equal expenditures a couple other big pieces and trends that um I saw during the the budget amendment process is really um Healthcare was a large number and I want to talk about health care it kind of includes our premiums it also includes a Cash and Loan number that we do as well as in contribute contributing to people's HSA so in general that was one of our biggest um increases from before so there's there's two parts to this so in general there was more employees so we see more salaries we see more benefits and there was an increase to the amount so we look back to the negotiations we have done in the past and there's an

148increase to the premiums that the district is paying so you see it kind of two-fold um there as well the other large is is utilities you know just like a private person would see at home you know a lot of this inflation also affects the district as a whole water bills we knew kind of was kind of one of those things that are coming up and I had budgeted but still not nearly enough for example our natural gas almost 80 percent this year increase on track for the end of the year and that was already over a 30 percent increase the prior here and so those are those are the ones that we're significantly watching and kind of don't have a control as much on the price per um per unit on some of those

149things so those are significant in in our budget there but you will see at the end if you're scrolling down to the bottom so the how much that the difference between revenue and expenditure that we're predicting two posts to fund balance that 1.3 number is up um about a million like 1.3 million from before so we are in a better shape is in than we were in June that kind of goes to this whole philosophy a little bit what Steve talked about and how we budget and how we roll those up in June there's a lot of unknowns in that category with our student count in June I don't know who's going to show up in the fall we also don't usually have a past budget by the Legislative user they've put out proposals but

150we don't have a final word on that in general in June um we had put in in our budget uh 435 dollar increase for per pupil revenues and then it turned out to be 450 so we got a little it's a little bit higher than that and then the same thing with our student count trended in the right direction looking at kind of some of those straight roll-up we predicted a hundred and this is back to Steve's point about an FTE count so you know we really focus on our main programs but there's a lot of nuances to the FTE count that a lot of different programs that we count kids countless partials and there's a lot of different layers to that but in general we predicted about a hundred in our budget loss and

151we only recognize a 58 student loss so in general that's another Trend to the positive kind of staying on the conservative side and tell more of those are known for ourselves and then so we're in a better position as we look forward through kind of all of those years the um kind of peach color I would say that represents a 458 dollar per pupil increase I use this straight at this point in time for next year we do have the governor's proposal out and so I use that straight number it is really high in all of a large um looking back at the history it is still a significant but I think with the one-time funding that they have in their budget and all of the revenues are still coming in very high I think

152the governor's proposed 458 dollars is the solid number to use in this point in time the next year in green I did only a hundred dollar increase per pupil and then then yellow I did a 50 increase it's kind of rolling back if we think through history and we go back from 20 20 or sorry twenty two thousand through 2020 so like a 20-year span not counting covid the average per pupil increase was seventy dollars and our very highest one at one point was 238 dollars so so you know we're we're kind of living in this time where these historic highs it's catching us up it's great but it's also one of those things that we talk about a fiscal cliff and you think about the holistic economy of Michigan nationally and things like that

153um those numbers felt good to to have those plans ready to go so that we're planning we're talking about it throughout our our our work day all of our meetings all of our things we're conscious of these things so that we're we're making Headway into making sure that each year that we continue to balance in our current year as well as Steven mentioned in his Roman study I took those straightforward roll up numbers so in Peach it'd be a 67 student loss in green it's an additional 75 student loss and then additional 90 student loss you see how those are compounding and that's why those numbers look that way if all of those things turn out that way we could be in the situation that's listed here however ever we wouldn't do have no action

154so these are realistic to to what the you know Administration will do it's a starting point for us to make sure we're having those conversations throughout our our whole entire operations um with that said we also you'll see that I have pulled out kind of those one-time state and federal sources you'll see that they they really do drop off and we really have removed those items so in general anything tied to one-time funding is removed already in this budget so those are really some things that we have to realize we will see in throughout our whole education scope is that some of those things that we had to get the luxury Fair doing that we will see some of those changes throughout you know the next couple of years um and then as well as

155you know the district doing a lot of really tough conversations and making sure that things that we do won't keep and align with our values that we're making sure to do that as we as we move through these next years so I think that's all I had and unless you had any questions Brett all right so I have a couple of comments and then I have one question or one area I want you to highlight so uh first of all a couple of comments on this so from the finance perspective I would say that obviously going from a 15 projector or budget or fun balance at the end of the year last year to a projected 16 percent is good um the one thing that I will reiterate is the fact that there there we

156have 3.2 million dollars of our budget that is one-time Federal covid money and so we're spending our money and we're supposed to on programs and things that that were targeted to covid and and those kinds of things but at the same time like there is going to be some structural conversation that's going to happen and those things are going to happen on the expertise of you know Dr lot here and and miss miss Housley here and I'm I feel pretty confident that we'll do that and what we're going to have to make some structure adjustments in pieces and in my opinion over time because we can't live on 3.2 million dollars that we just don't have all right so I'm glad that our fund balance has gone from 15 to 16 I think that gives

157us the ability to have our like you I love about you how you said that though our priorities as a district and what our goals are and all of that but at the same time like we will have to be fiscally mindful of that now the one thing that I will ask you about when I look at the uh our fun balance at the beginning of the school year for 22-23 is written in the amended budget I recall that no it says 10 point it's like 10.239 million I remember that number being somewhere like nine and something last July so why would that change beginning July to beginning in this amended so in June it's kind of the numbers we have at that point in time when I come to you in June I'm asking

158for an amendment to that current year that is ending that month and then also the new year so at that point the books in the actual final numbers for that current year aren't final yet you know we go through the process of an audit we accrue back to you know teacher salary and things like that where the wages have been earned or but not yet paid and so we're doing that whole year-end closeout like a business does a month-end closeout a school district really does a year and close out and so in in when I'm working those numbers in May and June I'm still projecting at the end of the year and just kind of like these other Trends I exactly that I projected at the end of the year we'd better be at a

159nine point something and we'd trended better than we did than what I projected in June just slightly higher yes that at this that's why in February this amendment's really helpful because that is a known that was the end of June 30th in May June I don't know it we close out our books and you kind of you know that's where you see that audit process kind of coming in October into November timing because those are final numbers at that point in time yeah thanks Miranda for the um I like seeing the projections out because I think that's where it really gets interesting um the one-time money that's been coming in is is great and it's definitely helped the fund balance I mean over the last three years we've got 9.9 million dollars in one-time money

160we were sitting at a fun balance of 11 million so if we didn't have that 9.9 we'd we'd be in a pretty difficult spot right now um I do also think that you know that money is there we're supposed to use it so we got more programs and that's kind of why our our costs are our expenditures are up it's because of a lot of these programs the difficult thing you're going to have going forward or we're going to have and it's going to make it difficult is pulling some of these programs back I mean the somebody's going to say hey why my daughter had a literacy teacher instructor last time and and they might not have it now I don't know you know what that looks like but it but yeah we can't keep

161functioning like that because you got hard costs that we can't like the utility costs that you said I mean wow you that you aren't going to be able to pull from anywhere it's going to be a real cost health care really increases you know and so when I look at this I look at from a business standpoint what's our kpi what's our key performance indicators and everybody here might have a different what what is that what it what do they look for for me it's enrollment is a key performance indicator Foundation allowance is a key performance indicator and then our fund balance and wages and salaries our key performance indicator and you know so we'll have to back years ago when we were running a tight budget our key performance indicator we were running at

162like at 85 percent wages and benefits we're currently around 88 I don't know what this year's budget is going to look like at the end but those are those are real numbers and you in and the more you the higher that goes the less we have for operations and if utility costs are going up so you know I I I agree with Brad I mean there's there's a cliff here because also the foundation allowance has been growing like you mentioned at unbelievable rates I mean if I look back at uh 2009 10 we had we were a foundation allowance of 7 600 10 11 it went to 74. 71 71 72. it took us until 2008 1718 to get back to our 2009. so we don't even know these historical numbers and a lot of

163the reason is because the state is flush with coveted cash too so yes um those aren't going to be sustainable because that's all one-time money for them yeah and when you talk about those negative times when we decreased um our peer per pupil Foundation rate that was also when we saw significant increases in one of our biggest expenses to salaries is retirement so we had we saw during those hard times that it was two things pulling in our against us and that kind of thing so it's one of those things where it is one of those where you kind of want to have that hibernation kind of to pack on a little extra pounds for what could if if we look at historical Trends in the past that that that is one of those things

164that we want to be very mindful of I haven't I haven't been you know just one Finance meeting recently what has the mips or has that stabilized because that was just constantly growing um this past year stayed exactly the same and 28 points something if the small increments kind of each year that's yes the they're they're paying back the unfunded rate at a you know at a little bit faster Pace than they were when they have budget surpluses sometimes they take right off the top of the state budget and put some down towards that that's still through the 147 C well there's 147 CBD um there's pieces that are in the rate that we pay and then there's also pieces that are passed through and then there's contributions that they give us per our dollars

165that's like a rebate kind of piece there's lots of pieces to it okay I'll add to that also though that uh or that there have been some changes with regards to retirement offerings as far as employees go right so it's more of like a blend now for for newer hires than it is for someone like me who is frankly more expensive but anyway so there's that now the one thing I will say that gives me some I I doubt that there were there would be a budget that would want to be passed that would say we're putting less money towards education right so the the thing about like the enrollment dropped since 2010 that we saw in in Dr loch's presentation in my opinion should allow the district also though to realize um additional revenues

166but I guess that's trying to forecast sales tax and and um you know what do you call it revenue from the states and what have you but I would anticipate that that should stay in my opinion more on the upswing than I'm than on the down I don't see us going back to where we were in 2000 and I'm trying to pick like the year where it really dropped up well it's kind of in government so in general we have a governor that is very pro-education and so it's obviously with the new you know over time with elections and legislators that were kind of at the helm of their priorities so just a couple things I think my My Lens might be just a little bit different but just to build up what you were

167saying too that the current governor and legislature have made um strong strong um vocal commitments I guess voice commitments nothing yet on paper but strong commitments to um trying to um read some life back into education in Michigan I think Celine has fared as an individual District in in Michigan has fared very well and when we look at our outcomes comparatively Nationwide we always rank very high but as a state collectively Michigan is not performing very well in education so I think that that is prompting our current governor and legislature to to take a look at that and to hopefully put put some some steps forward and and that comes through dollars and and things I really and I've said this before but I just want to say it again I really appreciate the projections

168and I also appreciate that you're conservative in those projections because we'd always like to see you know we have more money than than we have less money so I really appreciate that but I will also say that um while I really appreciate that the fund balance has grown because I remember being an employee in this District when the fund balance was dangerously low while I appreciate that it is more flush now and that it's continuing to grow I also just want to note that the Esser money wasn't was is was not given to school districts to grow fund balances it was given four programs and and such so I appreciate that the fund balance is growing I also appreciate that we're using those funds to support students and so when we talk about like oh

169no that one-time money is going away um I I understand how that's going to impact the budget and I also want to say that that money was there for a recovery from covid not to make our budgets um yeah you know more plush so when we have more staff than we've ever had before kind of thing so it kind of shows just I know it kind of boils down to that in one line but there's a million little choices that go up and down throughout those those times so even though it looks like you could boil it to that simple equation that it's that is that it's not really in all of those federal grants we write budgets and we get them approved and then I have to spend the money and then I draw

170down those functions for those and then we get audited and those it's not there it's it's this deep deep thing so yeah I just wanted to point that out for for the public and just knowing what I know about the Esser funding and how like you know I'm just using Pleasant Ridge for an example and how we've been able to support the social emotional learning that's happening there and the tricky thing as you've mentioned is moving forward how we continue to sustain that support for kids who need it and have become accustomed to that and that's where I think it gets tricky but I do believe that we have used the Esser funding the way it was intended to support students so thank you I'll go next real quick utilities came up twice water specifically

171did you mention a percent increase or no and what I didn't have it on okay on hand you know I specifically worked for the next Finance I I'd be really interested in what the percent it wasn't as high as natural gas so I just was using that one as a very specific example but electricity water they've they've bought utility we'll just put it in the utility that would be great to have more detailed information for finding for watch time um and just wanted to amplify what my finance peers have said about the 3.2 um and that last Finance meeting we talked about needing to get back to revenue generation conversations and it's not just the finance team so anyone on the board if you would like to research what other school districts are doing because

172we are not unique in this situation we would welcome all pieces of feedback to consider as we tackle that on a future agenda you guys have any comments or questions for Miranda okay thank you very much um so Brad has the motion on the floor Tim second all those in favor to adopt the proposed 2022-23 general fund budget amendment is submitted by assistant superintendent Housley please say aye aye opposed hearing none motion carries 6-0 I'd now like to please entertain a motion to adopt the resolution authorizing the issuance of not to exceed 60 million dollars for the 2023 School building and site bond series 1 as submitted by assistant superintendent Housley so moved I've got my pen ready okay pen ready Jenny thank you second I'll second all right Brad thank you discussion Miranda just

173if you guys have any questions it's obviously the second and third time you're kind of seeing it it's a very um detail process that we go through and as from the stack that Jenny is talking about signing is legal paperwork that we go through the the the action of selling the months has happened but it's not it's kind of like closing down your house you know you're going through these presses and then you have a closing date um later on so this is kind of that final step then then the funding will be forwarded to the district and then that's how we spend down those and we collect the taxes to pay that debt back and so um this was also we we utilized the one of the CTE classes over at the high school

174during that that day that we actually sold the bonds we actually went over there and kind of had a an education program where we brought in some of those players that that do that process and so they kind of could see some careers and we zoomed in with um someone actually in New York in the bond and and that was on kind of like the floor what not so the kids got to see a little bit of crew Pez that they could they could take throughout life so it's kind of a cool um wait to bring it back to our students I'd like to just thank Miranda this process is actually very like she said very complicated there are like 30 or 40 people involved in this this is not like just going in and

175getting your home loan with you know one Banker or something anyway Miranda's done a good job I can't keep track of how many people she has involved so really nice job with this good job Miranda um all those in favor please say oh yeah Susan go ahead sorry um just a quick question about so this is specifically for series one right yes for the November 2022 bond that was in it was 180 million but we had chunked it into three um series of 60 60 60. so as time goes on they might shift a little bit but in general that's that's what we're we're doing now in general too um if we don't can't spend the cash it's it's kind of somewhat um better to not start paying an interest on it and things like

176that and so you know being a school district and some of the projects that we need students to be out of the buildings towards things like that we can only get so much done this is already even at 60 million over this just the short amount of time will be a lot of work for all of us to accomplish and just timelines of getting all of those things done so we kind of marry that in in that kind of positions are debt as well and certain times as other things roll off it kind of marries on the next piece and the next piece okay thanks for clarifying clarify so the 60 million dollars and then reading through there there's like a six million 6.2 million dollars in issuance premium so do we actually have 53

177825 to work with or do we actually have 60 million I guess I don't know neither really it comes in it's really detailed and there's a coupon and there's there's valuations we'll we will we will net less than 60 million that hits cash in our bank yes but it is it's a whole page of different things that kind of go into that factor and so all of that is played into when we um put out our treasury app in the in the very beginning all of that is estimated and we're still better than budget numbers in general for all of those costs and what we will net as cash so we are ahead on the game in the current perfect didn't I read something more along like it's like two hundred thousand dollars or something

178like that to issue them and then we realize like what 59.8 of it or something yeah and that's why I have the extra people helping the coupon rate and the discounts and it's it's a whole it's a whole um layer thank you okay let's go to vote all those in favor please say aye aye aye opposed hearing then motion carries 6-0 I'd like to now please entertain a motion to approve the school of choice for the 2023-2024 school year as recommended by superintendent latch so moved Miller Jenny thank you support Estep Susan thank you um I know we had previous discussion on this but was there anything else that anyone wanted to say before we moved to vote okay all those in favor please say aye aye opposed hearing one motion carries five one moving

179on to discussion items we have one policy chair Jenny Miller okay I'm gonna um move through these quickly because there'll be an opportunity for discussion at our next meeting for some of these so um we do have some policies or revisions of policies coming to the next meeting for it's their first introduction so as a discussion item so the the first is policy 8510 it's a wellness policy and we have revisions that have been um uh suggested by the health and wellness committee and a Neola update so that will be moving to the to the next agenda as a discussion item then we have some policies on animals so there's an update to policy 8390 um about animals on District property and then kind of to go along with that we have policy 83 90.1

180therapy dogs we are working on getting verification on some wording that has been altered slightly from Troon before if if Troon approves it then it will be on a discussion item at our next meeting um if not then we will rework it and and then it'll come to a later meeting um sorry I'm moving to my notes there is a policy on threatening behavior towards staff members which is um new policies policies 33 6201 and policies 436201 and um this policy we need to have some clarification from Neola also and we also are going to be doing some work um because there is a policy for certified staff and non-certified staff but there is not a policy for students so the committee is going to be looking at how that maybe aligns with the current

181policy we think maybe it aligns with the bullying policy so that one um that one is is still we're waiting we're going to look for some clarification from Neola the last uh sorry there's two more so policy we did a lot of work this time so policy 9150 School visitors so this was brought to the policy Committee in error and it was kind of a transition error so it had been brought to the policy committee um several months ago and then moved forward to the board it was aligning our policy with the new sex offender registry uh laws and so we were coming into alignment with those laws and that's why Neola had sent the um the new language so it came to the board table and it was passed however in error it was

182brought to our committee again last month and there was a vibrant conversation around that policy and there's some things that the current committee along with comment from the public has brought brought forward and so that is going to remain on the policy committee agenda probably not next month but the month after that because next month we are going to be working on policy 2240 which is currently called the controversial issues policy and this is a policy that has been worked on or at least talked about for years and um at our last conversation Michael had talked to Troon and they had said that they were wanting to work on this also but um it isn't going as quickly as we'd like it to go so we are going to throw our efforts at this and

183so next month um we're going to be choosing a date this week hopefully um and then posting that so that the public is aware but we would like to have kind of a I don't know for lack of a better term like a community discussion or a Roundtable discussion we're going to be using a protocol in the bridge to civility to do maybe some small group breakouts we're hoping to maybe partner with members of the teaching and learning team or deiac to help us to facilitate that and we really are hoping to have conversations and feedback from the public so that we can use that conversation and and feedback to either revise or craft a new policy um that that is allowing um students teachers parents to all feel confident in the way that that

184policy is written and then um the the accompanying administrative guidelines they are currently in draft but I just want to mention that our teaching and learning team under the leadership of Cara Davis has been doing a lot of work kind of almost backward planning to support um what this might look like in administrative guidelines so they're a draft but the work there is going to help influence or at least help contribute to the work that we need to do on that policy um so that was a big agenda that is why we needed the bio break at 8 30. um and so uh be looking for that because our meeting was running so long we didn't get a chance to choose the next meeting however we know that it will not be a meeting that

185bumps up against this meeting because we want to give it the opportunity to extend beyond the hour so that we can collect that valuable feedback from community staff public whoever would like to come in and share their thoughts on that so I don't know but other policy people anything else to add sounds beautiful okay thanks thanks Susan that's where we are on the policy update I had a question so during the transition closer to the beginning of the year Michael and Steve and I had recognized and we had seen this in the past and I know Michael had seen this in the past too just a a possible need for alignment across policies that um anti-harassment bullying is one of them where we have several policies and some of the language isn't quite exactly the

186same is there any future work to be done on those well it's interesting that you bring that up I know that um trustee Estep and president McVeigh are working on potential Transitions and so I think that as we as we come up against policies that need alignment we're working on aligning those but I think as we're also considering um where we get our updates and how we update and what kinds of systems and structures are going to be in place I think that we're kind of holding on that and once those decisions are made we're hopeful that the organization that's supporting us will help us with some of that alignment um but that's in the very early stages of things go ahead Susan because you've been in those meetings yeah so we're um yeah we

187found a lot of excuse me questions come up about um so we're not quite ready to be like we're gonna recommend this specifically right I think um we'll approach it um I possibly might bring it to the policy committee so we can because we're in the work and we can kind of look at comparing the two side by side right pull some policies so we can even see and then we still need some numbers and and some questions about how their process works so um Michael and I are still in that process right now and hopefully we'll bring it to the policy Committee just you know and and um you know get get your feedback or support and then hopefully bring it to the board but that's looking at currently Neola and the throne policy

188services that they started offering in 2020 I believe and just trying to compare that as an option and and I think the from my understanding and like I said Susan and Michael have been involved in this but the throne policy potential is um is being considered because it is more local to to Michigan and more um current I don't know I there's just a lot of benefits to considering the two and determining what works best for our policy and the way that we want to move forward streamlining and things yeah I'm coming from a neutral standpoint so I don't know you know I'm just um so I don't have like a necessarily um leaning towards either right so I'm I'm not sure about any conversations on on that piece no I just brought it up

189as like why we were even considering why we would even be looking at something to to consider what meets the needs of our district the best and and what might provide us with um you know the best insight for our particular needs so yeah so lots of work to be done but I don't think that we would you know be combing through policy while we're considering that because that could be a part of that but as we as policies are brought to us and of course any board member can bring policy to the table so if you are combing through our policies and you find something um we would welcome you to bring that to our attention that was very diplomatic Jenny all right thank you I I just it's it's always good because things

190do come up and and Steve and team need to follow a process so it's good to have a clear clear path okay thank you um speaking of Steve Administration updates three quick ones um you're gonna see in the consent agenda that school calendar for next year has been approved Cara worked in negotiating that with the sca and I just want to assure everybody we do follow the process in our policy manual uh policy 88210 to make sure that it follows the instructional hours and all of that but the other thing I wanted to point out is people have asked about the waiver to start before Labor Day you actually do need to still get that and the wisd is assembling a meeting to do it for the whole County coming up in the near future

191so that's an update about school calendar I also want to congratulate the following snow day Steve winners I had a little comp contest this was fun and they submitted memes and two middle schoolers one Zach Roman Roman sixth grader with this snow blower theme which is cool and then Kindle Freeman a seventh grader with the Frozen theme anyway but I told them they're going to get a pizza party coming up because with them and their friends which will be fun and but I didn't want to use it on Twitter for an ice day so this will actually be displayed at the actual next snow day if that ever occurs but um and then finally think or um congratulations to Shane pitcher some of you saw this maybe in my announcement but he was a one

192of the 2023 scholar athlete award recipients and he just seems like a remarkable young man we'll get a 2 000 College 2000 college scholarship has already announced that he's going to hope next year but I mean I'm looking at this like two years of Varsity cross country is going to compete in the third year a varsity track um been on National Honors Society is an eagle scout on the executive Council for connecting Club wrote a ten thousand dollar grant for a disability inclusive space I mean the list goes on just a great um great person and we think it's great that he won the sword so my laptop died about an hour ago so this might be kind of short but the high school their Footloose is this weekend it's Friday Saturday and Sunday I

193believe the times are 7 30 7 30 and 2 p.m if I'm not mistaken so that will be a good time they've been working very hard towards it something else at the high school might have been dance team something interesting except March 13th something interesting is happening with the dance team I feel like that was the first thing on my list was the oh there's a blood drive in April for NHS that was the other High School thing I'm sorry this isn't a very interesting report I don't really remember what I wrote but there was something so that's okay short short and sweet can you sing no I'm just kidding anybody else Yeah Tim so I want to thank thank the community so before I came here my daughter facetimed us it from Michigan State

194and um so Sherry Dively and Wendy Dorsett and even the uh high five Club kind of came together and put out a GoFundMe they raised a bunch of money and then they took care packages to the 120 saline high school graduates at Michigan State today and I thought that was really remarkable so job anybody else yeah Johnny I just want to mention as the parent of a winter athlete that winter Athletics are wrapping up and I know we had um we hosted I know a big wrestling event and had many successful wrestlers the swim team just finished um conference and the divers go to Regionals this week many many many kids it was really cool many kids who have been working to get state cuts for their entire High School career in their senior Year

195got state cuts at the at the last meet so that was really exciting to see but also just um some of the pictures that I saw that just resonated with me from wrestling especially I saw wrestling from our um from our cheer teams dance teams the swim team just seeing seeing the kids on on the sides when it's not their events cheering for one another seeing them congratulate the kids who got state cuts um just seeing that it's not just about the winning and losing but it's also about the relationships and about how they're learning to support one another and I think you know often when we hear about Athletics we think about the competitive nature because that's that's the nature of sports but it's just also really wonderful to see the compass in action

196and to see these kids really thinking long term and about about their peers and more than just points so I wanted to congratulate them and uh yeah that's what I was thinking about the spring sports are I mean it usually starts right before spring break so good luck to everyone yeah good luck to everyone getting ready for those spring Sports and hopefully the weather cooperates right spring Sports go Hornets anybody else no okay moving on to consent agenda the consent agenda is listed in this agenda and will not be read aloud the motion noted will allow for the authorization of all listed items without discussion unless a member of the board requests that anyone or all be considered individually I'd like to please recommend a motion to authorize the the consent agenda as printed okay

197Tim thank you support Miller Jenny thank you all those in favor please say aye aye opposed hearing none motion carries 6-0 in closing items on our next agenda Dr Lodge the main one is an operations update also known as the Rex Clary show this is going to be Transportation buildings and grounds and a bond update it actually will involve a lot of people but Rex will take the lead on it all right awesome um now is our second opportunity for public comment I do see Betty I do have two forms before me we don't believe these people are here but we recognize Mr Barnett and Miss Gunnerson that they filed these so we will um we will say that they were not here and we will move to Mr fan if you'd like to approach

198and secretary Miller has the the cards whenever you're ready good evening uh Chang Ming fan local social entrepreneur I want to thank you so much have a wonderful evening it is a deeply moved by the students and highly educated by the presenters Dr large and Michelle another gentle lady I have several comments and also this is something I want to share with you first comment is that I think Celine area school is on the right track there are some numbers negative but please don't worry about that and compare with other areas that definitely right and we're doing much better but they are something is not we can control just like we cannot control the environment and we cannot predict who is going to come over here and kill us so Public Schools suffer the most

199because of his new war no no no gate but in general it's great there are some more challenges what I'm I'm going to emphasize is that not just facing Saline Area Schools although it's the best school the best community you guys doing such a great job the challenge is coming from far away China other country and also the 21st and 21st century is technological competition there's one article by Eric Schmidt as you know the Google board which is right now he is old but he's published the article I like to read that well maybe I shouldn't it's a little long but he emphasized Innovation power again we have to go back to the Celine star or the celebration creativity forces to the East and why is that because we have to invent a new future

200especially by the students and I do believe you and support you sex sports are all important but the children really want to create their own world not just create babies sorry so therefore it is very important for this public school we'll continue to do that there's so many things we can do we haven't done it yet so I'm here just okay do I have 30 minutes no 30 seconds or so I'm so sorry I didn't prepare but uh I do believe you I'm gonna follow you but also I have to say I got some other things which is question me why this wonderful system not as doing our other you know countries for example the Deep mountain in China why why is quite a laughing miracle happened why not here thank you I gotta thank

201you thank you thank you um our next meeting the next uh board meeting will be held here on March 21st 2023 at 6 30 pm um I'd like to now please entertain a motion to enter closed session of the board of education at 9 31 pm uh with the intent to enter re-enter Open session at what do we want to say 10 15. 10. all right so all right we'll we'll go I will go 9 50. 9 50 p.m for the purposes of number one to consider purchase or lease of real property under 8D and number two consider a confidential attorney-client communication pursuant to section 8h of the open meetings act this requires a two-thirds roll call vote of elected or appointed members um trustee Austin I'll motion it support oh okay I'm sorry Tim

202yes uh Lauren thank you right and then Lauren um and Lauren supported it and so we go to roll call vote um trustee Austin thank you trustee estab aye uh Treasurer Kirby trustee gold secretary Miller aye vice president Steuben I uh president McVeigh absent we are in closed session this is a fast one is okay we are all set so at 9 40 uh secretary Miller made a motion to re-enter Open Session that was seconded by Brad all in favor please say aye aye aye opposed hearing none motion carries 6-0 I'd like to now please entertain emotion to adjourn the regular board if Education meeting for January or February 28 2023 at 9 41 pm yeah me make it Brad thank you second all right Lauren thank you all those in favor please say aye

203aye aye opposed hearing none motion carries 6-0 we are adjourned