001I call this meeting of the South record board of education together at 6:30 and we stand for the Pledge of Allegiance Al to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for it stands one nation under God indivisible with libery and justice for all next item on the agenda is the roll call Mr secretary would you please call R yes Amanda flesher present Aj Johnson present Lory Hicks present sh flesher present Misha early present Daniel Winston present and last but not least Shirley P president next item on the agenda is the approval of agenda are there any corrections to the agenda there are none the agenda will be as written next item on the agenda is superintendent Communications Mr B thank you madam president uh I have a handful of Communications
002to share with the board this evening uh congratulations and many thanks to the hospitality tourism students uh last week in conjunction with Chef Tony and Chef Leo uh myself and a couple of board members had an opportunity to attend uh the black history dinner that was hosted in the nest Cafe uh last week it was a huge success where students prepared recipes uh from their own families to uh provide others with the opportunity to enjoy some wonderful uh family recipes from our very own students of the hospitality tourism program which was a wildly successful event also congratulations are in order to the thirston high school boys varsity basketball team who clinched the Western Wayne Athletic Conference Championship last week against uh Rob bashad or actually the previous week and uh congratulations are an order to
003our student athletes of the boys varsity basketball program as well as to coach Ally and the other coaches within the program for a very successful first season uh together with Coach Ally and uh winning the Western Wayne Athletic Conference uh Championship so and um please feel free to come out and cheer the boys on as we enter playoff Hoops later this week if that's of interest to you and then also congratulations are in order to student athlete Mr Daniel Winston III for being the very first player in thirston high school history to score score over 1,000 points um Daniel Winston thei Jr uh did that last week against Roseville and uh it was pretty impressive to see the amount of thirst and families that were there for that Milestone event as well as uh some
004press coverage pretty special evening um we were away that night and Roseville was kind enough to stop the game and uh commemorate the moment for Daniel Winston uh the third so congratulations to student athlete Mr Winston also would like to celebrate the many outstanding Community contributions of our very own social worker Miss Margaret Lincoln as well as Cindy Doyle of the Redford Good Fellows uh together over the course of the past seven years both Cindy Doyle as well as Margaret Lincoln have partnered together to ensure that no family in Redford Township goes without a Christmas and so over the course of the past seven holiday seasons thanks to Margaret's efforts as well as Cindy Doyle's efforts um underneath the umbrella of the Redford Goodfellows over 65 families in Redford Township have received uh a Christmas
005thanks to their efforts and so Margaret is here this evening and um Wanted to publicly thank her as well as Cindy Doyle and the redf Good Fellows for all of their outstanding efforts to support our most vulnerable families during the holiday season so hats off to Margaret Cindy and um certainly Madam president it's okay if there's anything that Margaret would wish to share with the board that we would provide her with the opportunity to do so and thanking her for all of her efforts over these I enjoy this and helping our families we actually I added up the numbers again it's been over 100 I said 65 I said I added all up so yeah helped a lot remark hom you so much for doing that thank you for being here tonight Margaret so that
006we can celebrate you and if you'd be so kind to pass it along to Cindy also so and that concludes my communications this evening uh Madam president certainly uh Miss Lincoln's welcome to continue to join us however if she has other plans this evening um we'll leave it up to her discretion unless there's something further that the board may have for for Margaret tonight thanks again so much next item on the agenda is the board Communications are there any Communications from the board so the chair yes um I just want to say I I attended the um buffet that the kids had at thirston on Thursday it was fabulous some really good things um Manda and Misha were both there too and then afterwards we had our first sex education advisory committee meeting and right
007now there's only eight they're going through a rebuilding time but a great group some of the best people I've ever had the pleasure of working with from administrators to teachers parent volunteers um they've already scheduled our next meeting for April and they were welcoming to me as a board member and was glad to see the board getting back involved in the committee work because it had been a while since a board member had participated so I just wanted to report that out any other any other board Communications um I just want to remind the board to um the one word that Scott Morel told us to think about I want you guys to get that together because we will be um getting Scott in in the near future any other board Communications next item on
008the agenda is comments from the audience topics related to the agenda are there any there are next item on the agenda is the consent agenda do I have a board member willing to adopt the cons agenda I pres yes move the adoption of the following resolution have a support support it's been moved by Mrs early and supported by Mr Johnson all in favor I I any ma resolution adopted next item on the agenda is Sr e a s r o e a srf reports are there any Mrs a okay so from Pierce um the students at Pierce are just fin they just finished up their I ready testing and they're hopeful for some great results they are looking forward to partnering with some great mentorship programs for the young men and young women in the
009building um hopefully they'll be able to get this set up and running by the first week of March the uh Pierce wrestling team is gearing up for a tournament and the cheer team is head to a competition too so those athletes are very excited about that the Clark sta at just completed the c training and they're ready to spring into action if needed we hope that's not needed um at vanberg the year the New Year brought a flurry of extra activities to vanderberg in addition to our regular workload there are a few additional activities that have been added keeping everyone quite busy um let's take a look behind the scenes at what's taking place 50 parents ate school lunch with their students at lunch with a loved one 5050 volunteer registration forms were completed checked
010and sent to the district office were processing school lunch invoice was paid and numerous calls had to be filled about the event 12 boys were inducted into the gentleman's club volunteer registrations were sent processing for the mentors PBIS supplies had to be approved ordered and delivered for club meetings black history night on the 27th black history chirt orders were made through the school paid for the building the short order was placed the school's internal account was reconciled volun registrations were processed for the presenters supplies were ordered for the student presentations they are also gearing up for fifth grade camp in March um teachers were informed and the parents are informed their Camp balances um they are also in the media center at venburg working on the genrefication I think it's real but of non-fiction section
011um their first fallet ebook sale um online and they're hosting guest readers for the during the month of March because March is read month so board and admin uh be prepared for invitations um student services it's a busy time of year um she recently finalized identifying students for the proper State assessments on the state site U for those who are not taking the mstep and she's ordered those materials we're in account period so she's busy making sure she's received and entered all IEPs held honor before count P so that her reports match with people County Amy Melle and she will work together closely on this for the next several weeks before her final reports are due to the county um she also attended CPR on professional development day last week and there were 11 other
012clerical staff um and they thought the instructor did a great job he do leing courses for the district throughout the year um CTE workplace learning begins this week for seven students in the auto and welding programs there will be more students to um to come the auto shop um ASC licensing review happened this past week um we down from rtic and a private Autos shop owner as well as a member of the licensing board we're on site to inspect the program instruction and shop for the national licensing everything went very well and we should have the official word in two weeks but um in welding application classes are working on an eagil to be placed in the first High School Courtyard it really is quite incredible if you have a minute it's pretty amazing construction
013trades are beginning to build their tiny house tomorrow it's a culmination of the skills that they have been learning throughout the year um Mr bety already talked about hospitality and tourism the buffet that they had and our health students will begin their clinical rotations on Monday this year there are 31 students who are participating in clinicals at the reg are there any questions thank I do have one I'm sorry do you have any idea the tiny house that they're building what what they're going to do with it afterward NOP we're to figure that out right now so um we have some ideas about what we want to do ultimately we would like to sell it we don't know if that's to of a raffle or some sort of auction or whatever but um we'd like
014to sell it so that we can the cost of building it and also add that money into the program very good thank you it's being built in the constru and then able to be put there's actually a tiny home community in the city of Detroit thank you next Miss Woods even I apologize for my I'm just leaving U Pi mle School uh fundraiser at Urban Air so sorry when I looked at the time I'm like oh I got to go apologize for so today um I'm going to report to you the progress for the charer and poker I unfortunately today I don't have the numbers exact numbers of this last uh uh charity poker event that ended the Friday uh due to the we meet tomorrow so I can have that for you at our
015next meeting but I will say this uh we will be using the funds A Part a portion of that funds to do a community activity um program for the for the community so we look forward to that it's coming we'll have something coming up for that we're going to do that and our scholarship funds is coming and taking part of where we are working on the amount this year for the scholarship flance as of now right now sorry I thought I had to report any questions for me Madam chair I'm sorry any questions to the chair yes yeah can you confirm the time of your meeting in place for tomorrow yes it'll be here I'm not sure which room I have to with CHR but it'll be tomorrow at noon at noon yes and we
016will be welcoming you and I have my card for you I was hoping you'd be here so we can start communicating absolutely thank you your defense any other questions thank you next item on the agenda is the presentation by pet thir High School Mr thank you madam president at this time I would like to turn it over to principal Rudy as well as uh other thirston staff and possibly students as well to share with the board this evening their presentation good evening South thanks for here it's a little different I don't remember board here so that's um so hey welcome to not person but uh nevertheless we look forward to sharing some uh some information with you tonight um and some data as well and uh where we are what we're doing and where we're
017Hing to go so that being said um and haris as well um but we're just going to start our presentation tonight the same way we start every Staffing um so we kind of set out this year to make sure we're trying to connect all of our dots for our staff uh just the same way Jason does with us as an administrative team uh we' like to always Point our work back to our district U mission and vision and uh as they come to be called the three big rocks right um Safety and Security because we all know you can't have teaching and learning you don't have Safety and Security First relationships and responsiveness and of course a lot of our work then also falls into the L of curriculum instruction assessment um so we we
018we do that at the beginning of every staff meeting so we Center our our folks in what we're doing as a building and how it not only connects to the classroom but the whole building as well as open District um as a team um I guess it was two summers ago right ago we had the opportunity to uh go to massp of the travor city and uh every year that's a great event and uh two years ago we had a chance to learn from an educator whose name is Jimmy C um wrote he's written several books um but one of those that we' like to Center our work in as an administrative team as we're working with our staff and our students comes from a book called cultur um if if you've never heard of
019it I encourage you to read it it's a great um it's a great read just in terms of what it takes to lead um people frankly um but but more so through the context and the lens of students in um and so the framework that Jimmy uh puts out is captured here behind I me again we start every one of our staff meetings this way um it's a lot to read but uh the principles are pretty simple um that we try to view all of our work and all of our decisions that we're trying to make as we building through these four uh domains if you will how are we being champions for students how are we expecting excellent from Excellence from ourselves from our staff and from our students um how do we carry
020the banner and trying to create meaningful experiences for them um for our staff and for our students and our families and how do we always try to act as merchants of Hope believing that we can Inspire the best in each other um so it really is just trying to put an intentional framework on how to lead how to how to be in front of um driving positive change for students um so I just wanted to share that with you allight if you want to talk more about it certainly i' be happy to to delve into that with you and again encourage you to read uh any any works by Jim C he also has a a great podcast called the interview chair is a great look at uh reminding us all what we all hoped
021um would be the best of us and what we could do to in that change with students when we sat in the interview chair for the first time right because who you are in that moment is really often times the best of best of yourself and what you hope to achieve in this work so if again if if you want to go into that more I encourage you to take a look that have talk to you about more um with that being said I want to turn it over to my esteemed colleagues um who are just one heck of a team um I don't I don't know how we can do anything that we do uh without each other um we depend on each other we appreciate your support and I look forward to a
022to Bath those talk a little bit about um some of the great things that are going on in th I'm just getting my pictures going hang on one second I'm just going to let this run while I talk um and I promise to be brief Matt knows and any of you who have started talking to me about the things that are going on at thirst and know that I can um kind of keep that going for a long time so I'm going to just uh be concise because I don't want to get in trouble with my boss and and I want um if any I want to invite you if any of you um want to ask more questions or if you want to know all the nitty-gritty about what's really going on over at
023thirston especially as it pertains to our CTE programming our career in technical education programming um I would be happy to have brunch with you at the nest um on Tuesday Thursday or Friday um so just give me a call and we can sit down and and chat um we've been talking a lot at thiren about ways to bring more opportunities to our students um and we've really been been focused on giving kids a reason to be at school and having them want to be there um and also trying to give them some more Focus um so that they understand why it is they're taking the classes that they're taking and the goal for us um is to have all of our students graduate with either a four-year plan because that's what they need um in
024order to take the path that they want to go so they already know what uh college or university they want to go go to and they've they've applied and they've gotten in and they've done all those things or um they need to have some sort of credential or certificate that allows them to enter um any of the areas that we are kind of focusing on right now um as an entry-level employee um with the ability to grow and expand um so all of our CTE programs um kind of do that and I'll get more into that in just a minute um we've also been really trying to look at what are other schools doing and what other opportunities to do students have um in the area so we've been really focused on making sure that
025we are able to send students to different conferences state level conferences so that they can um participate and interact with um students from across the state so we've uh took some students to the Women's Summit again in November we did that last year it was very successful we took another four young ladies there um this year and I was really proud of them you'll see pictures they'll pop up there at some point oh they're there and they um they really got the whole entire group in the last night we do a just like a fun activity night and our girls were the ones that used their glow sticks and they got the party going and all the girls gathered around there dance and they had a great time um we've also uh formed a mental
026health club um student group based on MP's student mental health Summit um in September and so two of our counselor three of our counselors and social workers have gotten a group together and they keep building that group and they're really focused on um student mental health and being kind of having peer-to-peer interactions and um talking with students about it to take kind of the stigma away from that um and then we've got students going to um student council is really been revamped and they're going to conferences and Leadership conferences as well um the other way that we've been um focusing on students is through uh our work with the group called one goal and one go um started working with us this year and we are working I have some Communications with Miss Woods um
027and also with the Alumni Association and really focusing on our systems for supporting students all through high school um so that they do have that Focus but then also maintaining that support with them once they leave um because what a lot of people don't want to talk about is that that time between graduating from high school and whatever it is you're going to do is one of the most difficult transitions in a student's life in a person's life and a lot of times that's the time where we're like okay bye fly little birdie you're good to go and that's when they really need us the most so we're working with one goal to try to um focus some of those systems um so that our students feel supported all throughout high school and then beyond
028that as well um and then my favorite thing that we're doing at thirston which I think is no surprise to anybody here um is our c Career and Technical education programs which are just I mean uh Miss Ogden gave you a little bit of information about what is going on there but um so many great things have been happening um and so just to give you a really quick update um we did get our official approval for our Health Sciences program so it is officially a state approved program um and um we are doing two courses in that area the CNA program the certified nursing assisting program which we did last year we had 23 students graduate with their certified nursing assistant um certificate last year um we have 10 of those students who are
029now taking photomy and they will have a photomy certificate as well um once they leave High School um and then there's a lot of um kind of fun things in the works for students I'm working with uh Henry Fort Health Systems and we're talking about potentially putting in a um a registered intern ship program um for those students as well lots of great things happening there um as Miss Ogden mentioned our ASC on-site evaluation for our Auto Tech program um was just done and um a huge thank you to Chris M which makes great um because without him this would not be happening and um he just has invested so much of his own time and energy to make sure that we had all of our te's crossed and our eyes dotted and um spent
030countless hours putting together it's it's an incredible amount of paperwork and time and energy um he did that so the stickers that are on there on your desk those are for you um as one of our gifts um from our program and the logo was designed by Chris um and then our partners at Rous um turned them into stickers um so you all have one of those um so that program should be all good to go as certif um in the next couple of weeks um and a lot a lot going on there as well um right now we have four students who are at Rous Industries um on work-based learning with them and we have another five or six that are looking at doing some job shadowing at mtic Chevrolet um then we've got
031our our construction trades classes which are working with um Atlantic impact which is the nonprofit organization in Detroit and they have been outstanding they're very impressed with our students and our our instructors and they are working with us to build the tiny home and then they also are going to have our students participate in a competition called build Detroit um which will be coming up in the spring so our students will be competing in that as well forgot to tell you that our host of students so we have um student organizations that are associated with all of our groups I'm trying to go fast Matt I'm sorry it's like I've got to be more concise um but we had uh several students that competed at hoso which is a Health occupation Student Association um we
032had six of those students who um placed at the regional level and will be competing at the state level in Trevor City um in April and so that is thanks to the outstanding work of our nurses Jennifer Bruner and Sarah nimic um who work with those students and prepare them for those competitions um Welding and Fabrication we have students at Rous we've never had students in the fabrication department at Rous and so they have been um very excited to bring on uh four of our students and they will actually be allowing them to fabricate and um learn that trade um and actually have them sit in with some of their apprentiship classes because they have a registered apprenticeship at Rous as well and we're hoping that next year our students will be able to combine
033with those students and they will have a one year of their four-year apprenticeship out of the way before they even graduate from high school um so that's really awesome too our uh hospitality and tourism program provided the cookies for you um this evening so they baked those cookies and then our certificate of comp comption kids who are taught by Heather bis um packaged them up neatly and tied them in a bow and made them look pretty um and they're doing a ton of outstanding things we have students who are going to be um doing work-based learning at Suburban Collection Showplace in Novi um so they have two very large culinary kitchens and they do tons of events and so our students will have a lot of opportunity to participate with that as well um in
034a nutshell there are a lot of great things happening for our students here and um they are really you see them this is up at Crystal Mountain so they've had the opportunity to tour and get backstage tours at Franken MTH at the Bavarian Inn at Crystal Mountain which is up in Thompsonville um up north um we've taken kids to um Michigan Central in Detroit for the Detroit um tourism annual meeting um and they're getting they're getting recognized a lot of recognition so pictures from that trip were used at the states CTE conference up in Grand Rapids I was standing there and it's on a loop and I would yeah those are my kids and like the people I was standing with they're like what I'm like those are my kids we took KS that's our
035trip that's where we went and the um hospitality and tourism Foundation was is using our students in their marketing materials because they're so impressed with um the level that they're at and they're kind of set to be one of the Premier Hospitality tourism programs in the state um all of our programs now have um they come with the ability for students to earn college credit so they transfer over um at Henry Ford OCC Schoolcraft um The Culinary Institute of America in New York um and we're always adding on to those so um I call them articulation agreements and then people go I don't know what an articulation agreement is it means like you've earned the credit here and you've demonstrated that you have the skills so when you go to that Community College you don't
036have to take those classes so it saves our kids a lot of time and money um in having to do that so I'm going to stop talking now because um I'm I've already I'm already over my limit um but we can talk more if you want to so go ahead well as Bethany is uh most of you know most of the time building this Powerhouse CTE program I'm uh I'm allowed to be over in the building and I I I say to myself at least you know this is an opportunity to really focus on two of those main rocks um safety and the learning environment as well as relationships is been responsible to not just the students and family with staff as well um and in doing that I have a lot of opportunity to
037work with our mental health professionals with really which really is um say mental health professionals in the building as well as our SRC coordinator and uh making a change I think in our climate in the culture and our building that's what we really been focusing on to go back G um it's how you culturize this place right so a lot of my conversations with those folks are not just about how we support students and in crisis or Tre triage moments but how do we really make some changes in this place um and so talk about you know here at the bottom we got extensive clubs and activities at THS there's a lot of things that are going on in the building um for students but two of the things that I really want to talk
038about real briefly our our Esports program that we have as well as our pomet team that we have uh that one pomet started this year and it's been an opportunity for our young ladies in the building to be mentored by some really great people our vice president and um it's really starting to show in some of their um actions throughout the day in the hallway and it's real helpful so I want to say thank you for that but then the Esports program is one of those things where we went to uh Traver City for the massp program a couple years ago and I sat in one of the sessions and they were talking about Esports and I think I'm kind of like everybody else when you hear the word Esports you're thinking first what's that
039and then when you find out that it's playing video games you're like uh h i get that out of here but when we sat down and they talked about the amount of exposure and attention that e Sports gets in comparison to say the Super Bowl it has double triple and quad the viewership as some Super Bowl there some Super Bowls that see um then talk about the amount of money that's out there for Esports and it's an opportunity so colleges have orts teams and I mean you got kids are in college playing video games college coaches are recruiting Esports kids to come to their college and there's millions of millions of dollars now for these kids to go off to college I think we got a kid this year who's supposed to be going to
040Madonna I the fact check that but there's a kid that's already got a scholarship to go off to college for Esports Thursday and they just won and they just so yeah I mean they're winning stuff too so they won um I forget the name of the games but they they've placed in one of the games last year at the end of the season and then this past uh first season The Fall season theyve placed again in the one of the games that they play we have kids who are getting recruited to go to college for eorts and Me Be Free basically so the the whole thing behind the Esports was I think about the students at the school who um I don't know call them loners don't have a whole lot of friends maybe or
041if you walk into the cafeteria and you see this small group over in the corner and they're just kind of sitting there and they're on their games Esports has been a way for them to have a place in the building a way for them to be have something to be proud of um because they are going around they're competing they have jerseys so football players wear their jerseys on Fridays and E Sports guys are walk around their jerseys as well um they they're gain the attention they have an amazing space where they're working out of with gaming computers and monitors like this and they're sitting there and they're having fun but it gives them a purpose now too for being at school cuz nobody and I say this all the time to parents nobody wakes
042up in the morning and say dang I can't wait to go take that boun test for M Rob's class they're thinking about the activities that they are a part of after school and so we really all of this is us trying to figure out how do we how do we keep our kids engaged how do we make sure that they have a good time how we make sure they're safe how do we provide things that not just other places have but how do we kind of one up them too and so that's what we're working on is trying to provide opportunities for our kids to come and have a place where when they're 20 30 40 50 60 years old and they're talking they're not talking about classes they're talking about those activities that they
043were part of and the opportunities that they had um kind of that's G we are over and we both start talking even though I practi philosophy will say less I tend to say so um at the end of the day we're trying to look at this thing from 30,000 ft in the sky and say what do we want to have for our kids when they walk out the door that's it hey you can go wow with all the data yeah the data um so they get the icing right I get the um so yeah I think you have copies of this too um I guess what I'm going to say quickly and I'll go through all of these the good news on the data with the benchmarks it's Ela science social studies um nothing is
044declining nothing has gone down U last year when we did this that was not the story the story was the opposite um our numbers were going the wrong direction um so I like to think a lot of the things we're doing with curriculum PD uh assessment our staff time plc's uh are having an impact and and I think that is bearing out reason believe is not um math is the one place where we're flapped although I'll tell you our Math teachers are doing a lot of hard work evaluating the curriculum right now they've been going through um trainings both with Rea looking at their own instructional practices as well as looking at a new curricul tax adoption um so I'm glad it didn't go down uh that's one area do need to continue to work
045diligently because those aren't those aren't mys um uh science and social studies um really really nice games um since last year so proud of those you got those not them too much get to our what is the data saying right so as I said the ELA proficiency increase in all is 9 10 and 11 so that's wonderful we're getting back to kind of how things spelled and looked uh prior to shut down bro uh SAT Math proficiency is maintained it was not a decrease in 10 or 11 our science and social studies proficiency scores have also increased and uh one piece that's not there but I do want to kind of draw your attention to and if you like a hard dat on this have to get it for uh I think it Bears uh
046pointing out that this past year the SAT went completely online for the entire State everybody had to take it um well in a digital format on a chrome uh previously it's always been a paper pencil test so um last year our numbers our our averages our proficiency scores on the SAT increased while the average numbers across the state the state averages decreased um I think that has to do a lot with intentionality that we placed on the importance of the performance on that assessment last year we spent a lot of time working in Con Academy um having our shs practice those things and get getting ready for game if you will um so our SAT aage in while the state average decrease um certainly that means we're still not done so what do we need
047to work on this year these are some things that we put into place we know that we need uh systemic intervention processes um be mentioned some of those systems earlier uh we are we're really focused on uh tying back to our myip strategies and things that came out of our state audit in the spring uh looking at really need to improve our multi-tiered systems of support across academics attendance and our Behavioral Systems um we know that we need to prioritize academic rigor uh based upon those scores um we still need to maintain a focus on the SAT and uh one other thing I'm throwing in there is we need students in school whether that's because of their attendance or behavioral issues we've got to prioritize students being in school um so now so what have
048we been doing uh this year we established a role in the building of an ntss orat ntss multi-tiered systems of support said just plainly what that means is making sure that like things aren't happening inot like one offs here one offs there but how are we putting interventions in place to support our systems to support students and how do we make sure that they're operating with Fidel uh we tracking a lot of data in that regard uh with academics attends and behavior and uh walking the staff also through that work it's not frankly it's not our work Administration it's it's everyone's work and that's a big piece of what um the philosophy and the the approach we've taken this year is that it's not something we're doing to staff or to students but we're doing
049it with each other so that everybody's invested in kind of that whole I guess you call it that the rising tide lifts all boats kind of philosophy um so we we've got a coordinator in that position uh we have also been working as we're trying to to uh prioritize academic reader starting uh early in the fall every one of our uh teachers in every subject area in every content well in every content area and in every subject have spent time making sure that all of their assessments U both preassessments and final assessments for semesters are completely aligned they gone through a rigorous process with our instructional coach uh as well as our data coordinator uh Miss n and M mlin to make sure that those assessments are all in the DNA system they're all aligned
050at high depth of knowledge standards and all connected directly to our stage standards that we're expected to show those achievement things on that's uh something that that ifon has got a little uh little out of focus uh during the last couple of years but I'm happy to report that we've returned back to that being a really solid system that operates with today um so that's going on it's happened across all uh core areas right now and they're working in electives uh this so by the end of the year everybody should be in a good spot with that um we continue with our intentional sat style focus and instruction in our courses so prioritizing students having exposure to what they're asked to demonstrate proficiency on throughout all of their content right so it's now they show
051up to take the SAT and they've never seen questions like this before being embedded across classes as well as our dedicated seminar time on Wednesdays where we're continuing to focus onon Academy um and there with 9th 10th and 11th grade and our seniors during that time are focusing on completing a navian curriculum which is connected back to what Beth was talking about with making sure everybody has a solid plan as high school um and then as I said the work being everybody's work uh right now what we've been going through in our professional development is um teachers individually focusing in on five to 10 students that they know are struggling the most AC and we're documenting the specific interventions that they're doing with to take what they would do for all students and then elevated
052for those specific kids who really strugg um so we track that data week by week uh whether those interventions are happening or not and then we're tracking their achievement progress um I guess you know in parallel to that uh we just went through the first round of anying the first semester and that our PD I guess last was that Tuesday last Tuesday um we just started the second round of this so we uh we looked at the data we looked at uh what happened with students who we chose for those interventions uh the good news is is the number one thing we learned is doing something is better than doing nothing um so uh with every uh round we did we learned that we were able to refine what our effective interventions and what maybe
053aren't as effective doing it one time we kind of learned some things that didn't quite work whe was through time constraints or attendance or things that we just didn't know to think about in those moments um but in the second semester we have a lot more focus on uh teachers trying to get uh into individual conferencing stances with students doing weekly reporting with them um taking just a lot of extra time and extra care and intentionality with those interventions and like I said looking at the data does it work does it not then kind of pdsa if it didn't work what do we need to adjust and how do we need to continue to so those are the things that we're doing to address what the data says um the things that we put in
054place th far this year and it's still kind of work in progress other things that probably go to as well where we're currently piloting a new attendance process in conjunction with Cooper and our ntss coordinator and our s coordinator and Arma uh uh Williams um who we've got a partnership with as well um be look at some of that because like I said that's one of the big things that I think is is posing the biggest challenge for us right now is tance is hard T is hard right now um and you all have to SEC sauce know how to make sure every kids in school every day talking with you about that we hope it has a lot to do with the things that Moses are talking about as well um but those mental
055health professionals that Moses mentioned are a big part of that puzzle um as well as those intentional relationships and interventions that our teachers are doing class by class hour by hour um um but um we're very helpful this year is sp really nice and THS and um I'm excited about that it it kind of fills my cup up it feels good um and uh it's nice to just come and talk with you littleit so with that being said take questions and uh glad there's at least a Podium here to get behind if they get doding so um Matt we don't have those you don't have the those slides okay can we get those for them they slides I'll get okay any questions no that was going to be mine okay you want to go back
056to them no no that's fine I I just would like we just want copies of yes teacher yes I have a question but I do want to say that I'm I live at TH so everybody know that but um there is a stark difference between last year and how the kids attitudes and everything was and this year you know me so there's a lot going on at Thursday the kids are more in tuned to themselves like you said with Esports I I don't know anything about Esports I'm electronically challenged but these kids didn't showed me oh a bunch of stuff like they're excited when two three years ago they were not you know they I was most concerned for some of them because I you know I was worried worried about their mental health cuz
057they had nothing you know to Gras born to so kudos to all of y'all for making these children happy thank you for supporting it good that's right any other questions thank you so much and continue continue that Journey because I I like hearing that it's it's never finished you're right thank you for your support thank you um I think we can take a about a 10 minute recess and there are Refreshments in the Cafe should tray [Music] by as well as your cookies so there's options all right thank youing people sending it's almost like a TSA and then you're sitting I call this meeting back to order at 31 next item on the agenda is discuss Jefferson Fisher band Mo AB project thank you m president at this time I would like to turn it
058over to Michelle Kars from mle planners to discuss with the board the next four agenda items as it pertains to uh the bond item so uh perhaps if Miss turn be so kind um to allow for questions in between each agenda item and then uh we can transition to the next agenda item uh because the next four specifically speak to bond Improvement projects if that's okay with with you met president that's fine right good evening good evening the first one I'm bringing forward tonight is U the scope a is the abatement for Jefferson and gber and then also the removal of the Gin floor and fish and that was done is kind of an add-on project once we determined we had to replace that floor that underlayment that floor is positive so we to so
059we got good coverage we had nine bids for this package with excellent coverage and very comfortable with Midwest environmental they've done work before with environmental Our dating consultant if you will and then also environmental maintenance Engineers they're in the district now so that is when we're actually dividing the between two I have a question chair so the Fisher floor that won't be done until the summer right it will not can you remind me again what happened to the Fisher floor well we're not exactly positive yet so we brought in we put our insurance company on notice when it started to hump up um and they came out and they looked and at that time they could not determine a cause so they are kind of on notice they're going to come back after the demolition
060is done see if we can determine the cost for pumped up like that it's definitely has moisture in it we know that we just don't know the source of the moisture any other questions I've seen it I've seen the flo me too okay uh to one is next the next one is Jefferson fer vyberg Pierce roller blades roller Shades project was going to say that is that a new court uh going along with the work the TMP is doing at all these buildings we're going to remove and replace all the window sheet existing uh vertical blinds and replace them all with roller Shades and then this is also bu the new roller Shades in the new areas at Jefferson and man in addition there's a couple of Windows that were missed at fer so we're
061picking up those as part of this bid and then also there was a desire to have a shade between the cafe and the store for Innovation oh that's also ined so we got three bids for that this is the same B that actually did the short roller Shades fors so we're very comfortable with DC any questions about the RO you talking about the next one is discuss Fisher to Rao P also along the TMV work we have done a bid package to polish the terazzo the remaining tazzo in the building on the first and second floor and then also there's a detail that we had to develop for the P we did that in conjunction with T so that's what this does it polish the and then also so I'm sorry this is we have
062four bids for that package and the low bidder with diamond shine I've done a considerable amount of work with diamond shine and another district and they've done really good work so I'm comfortable with their recommendation for is there any questions about the uh the power machine okay so your last one is the actual gym floor replacement so as the demolition being handled by the ement contractor this is just the installation of the wood floor itself and this is actually the same company that did the pier so we're very comfortable with the work we did have four biders at the time of bid the low biders during the poose bit interview did ask to withdraw because they had a math error on the size of the gy so they asked if they could withdraw their B
063and we allowed them to do that it was obvious that they were they were too low obviously had so the second was okay there any questions about the gy FL Fisher Okay thank you next item on the agenda is discuss Jefferson Fisher Vandenberg Pierce and thirston Furniture project Mr thank you madam president at this time I would like to turn it over to our partners from the TMP architecture Kayla Harris as well as Kyra Copeland who are joining the board this evening to discuss upcoming Furniture scope with the board this evening in terms of upcoming attraction at the building locations that President toer just read a moment ago hello everyone good evening than for having me my name is Kayla I'm the interior designer on all these projects for southford we have gone through a
064very lengthy design process with the amazing Administration here at South Redford so a lot of with Jason Amy Davidson and administration through all of our schools to desig spaces so I'm excited to present them so I wanted to list out what is installing in the summer of 2025 we have a lot of furniture andall so it's very exciting for the students we have Fisher three and phase four and you'll see in an upcoming phasing again what those phases are we have Jefferson Elementary School Vandenburg Elementary School we've have Pierce Middle School phase two we had about half of the school installed last summer and that was a lot of our specialty spaces and then we have first in high school phase one so that'll be a lot of our general classrooms just a little B
065ofenda we'll go through our elementary Furniture first we'll jump into General classroom specialty spaces staff for special education spaces and then we'll Happ the secondary for Pierce and thirst those were designed together and we'll jump into those General classrooms special education spaces and then your specialty spaces that's in this current base so Elementary furniture for Fisher that phasing comes into play here so it's colorcoded to show what was installed when and what is to come so for this summer we have phase three which is our yellow installing in July we have phase four installing in August of this year and then phase five which is our library learning common Suite in November of 25 and that's due to phasing from our construction managements our second floor we have our phase four and then we have
066our phase one you can see and that's what installed last um fall and so students have been living in that space and using that Jefferson usage plan this is from Megan the principal at Jefferson this is just to show the usage of each space and then same with Vanden from as well and that is how we are installing our furniture stud Elementary General classrooms we have our pre classrooms and before I jump into Elementary you can remember two years ago we presented Adams class furniture that was our first Elementary Furniture installation and so that process was decided through a Furniture fair and so through that process we had samples delivered to a classroom and students and staff from all schools were able to come intera with that furniture let us know their thoughts um and
067fill out a survey so that is how we decided these standards that have been carried throughout all elementary schools so we've had Adams install already and we've had some furniture at Fisher install so classrooms and this is following gsrp requirements we've been working closely with Amy to make sure that all of our fre classrooms will follow those requirements we will be utilizing existing chairs where we can you all have great chairs that are in great shape so those will be existing in a lot of spaces kindergarten through first grade don't break to the photos this is an exact match for what was installed at Adams did make some tweets that I'll point out just hearing feedback of how people have lived with the furniture Adams and what was working what wasn't so I'll make sure
068to hit on that we have group tables that fit five students these can pulled and pushed apart however wanted to make a flexible space for our students and then we have two Sushi tables so making sure our students have different postures that they can sit in we have a guided instruction area for our staff and students to interact this is a writable surface so problems can be written on there in like the way is needed we also have provided storage in the form of Satellite Storage so students can go into each different storage area and it doesn't make a cluster as students are going to grab minut second grade and third grade this is where you see a switch from what was installed at Adams we had such great feedback from our standing height table
069so that's our number three here students love that so much even second grade level so we decided to bring that at second grade and third grade and carry that throughout and So Sushi tables are not withing this space and then fourth and fifth grade is the same thing we just removed our last test that students could interact with that's General classrooms for elementary elementary specialty spaces all of these spaces were designed um continously throughout and so you will see that the Adams art classroom look just Jefferson art classroom and so on so our art classroom these tables are special for art classrooms they have sprayed on edge that any water that's in there it'll protect the Linate and WS our music classroom you'll also see all of our staff stations all our teacher stations are
070continuous throughout two and that is a deconstructed teacher desk so that if the teacher doesn't end up meeting that St it could be deconstructed and given back to the students as a table or storeage CHS there music classroom student stools that have varying footb bar Heights for our kindergarten through fifth grade students we have a lot of different sizes there so we that's accessible to all risers and storage classroom so we have a teacher M Le we have flipp and Nest group tables so that means that these tables flip and they can be pushed off to the side for these steam rooms so if any floor space is needed that can be used for ear any Hands-On learning for these students we have the same schools here to be accessible new storage we providing new
071cafeteria Furniture new tables in our existing cafeterias at Jefferson and Vandenburg we were able to hit our needed student count with all Circle tables that promotes collaboration and just building relationships for students within the cafeteria so that would be great and then we have the recommendation of four of these seats to be Ada accessible so that the students in a wheelchair or needs any other accessibility needs that there's a stool missing on those and there is a chair provided if needed or that chair can be pull away to do so those TOS are accessible for students Elementary itinerant spaces these were all designed in meetings with the specific itinerant staff so these are very curated to the needs of each staff member intervention classroom you have guided instruction they asked for individual desks that could
072be put in different group configurations so those can be push and pulled however needed to form different configurations and then we have mobile white boards to separate space acoustically and and Vis to gym office and storage new gym editions at Jefferson and Vandenberg they're receiving the gym office so that their standard staff configuration and then new storage within our new gym storage so lots of storage for our gy speech and language again all designed with the staff specifically guided instruction new storage a lateral file storage from locking needs from proprietary there social work we have our instruction we have a sushi table we have a rocking chair there some poster elements different postures different ways of seating for anyone that needs to regulate in this room as well and then some book and file storage
073that's lockable this is specifically at Jefferson they have their coaching office within their b space so I wanted to show the adult life Furniture here um they have a guest table and a collaboration conference guest table and then our saying book file storage for at Jefferson we have a kids GE classroom and so this is outfitted like a like a typical General classroom but a little bit different with our rocking chairs here and then we have adult Le chairs for all of our um folks that help with them classroom as well B specifically has a sensory classroom and so we're providing green bags a tag dial wall unit balance boards that come on a set on the wall floor mats and then number three is sensory soft seating so it's almost a Turf likee material
074and that's PR cleanable as well so that's for any sensory needs for students that come in that space and then Elementary special education spaces Fisher has their full it's in that Wing that we'll be installing in um August of this year they have their full special education site almost in there so this again was designed specifically with the staff asking them needs and questions of the space so our ECC this serves your youngest students within your District this is your two and three year olds that are within this classroom so we have our guide of instruction she really wanted these CU chairs that work well currently within her class and how she functions so C chairs and then our dramatic play elements like 11 um 12 and 10 to provide that and then locking storage
075we also have um at fer a prek ASC classroom so again designed specifically with that staff member guided instructions sotic play lockable file storage and I should now we'll be having where you see this large dotted Circle that's for a sensory swing so that will be installed in these classrooms Jefferson this is their TC education space see a lot of the same Furniture over and over so the students know how to interact and and certain attributes of them special education clro again these T here can be placed in group configurations or can be pulled apart if a student needs the individual work for a little bit of space that was important to staff members have four seats and and then getting into secondary Furniture so Pierce and thirst like I said Pierce and thirst were
076designed their General costumes were designed together and so that process started very large we kind of start Ping the sky um they sent a few staff members to vs America or Furniture manufacturers sent them to their showroom to see that furniture firsthand we also took um our Pierce Administration and our thirst Administration on tours to Troy um Troy International Academy to see their furniture and how they function with the new space we also took them on a tour of Royal Oak High School to see how they function with their furniture too so we saw a lot of great furniture and Matt and Beth andisa and Elizabeth were all able to chat on how that could best be used within their spaces so as I get into it this is our first floor as it appears
077so every color um is receiving Furniture in our SCH 25 this is our second Flo so we're touching General classrooms science classrooms a steam classroom special education classrooms an art classroom and um these Sports has been Works to and then at thir we have our first four composite this is what is being installed within 25 and then everything else will be in phase two so in next summer we we'll be having the same conversation so we have this Wing here receiving General c sence c furniture and that same wing on the second floor so General classrooms when we went to Troy International Academy um all the administration heard that staff got to choose an add-on item into their classrooms and that really picked everyone's interest so that's something that we installed here and we surveyed
078all staff members to see which ad on they would like so their base package of their classrooms will be a mobile teacher desk with a mobile um mobile pedestal here every staff member will receive a left turn exactly with this this has received great feedback throughout all schools we'll have our it's called a thumb print desk there's concave and convex shapes and the layouts that are able to be made with this desk specifically are almost endless so it creates a lot of flexibility within the classroom I'll show some layups in a in a bit of what that could provide we're also providing rectangular desks do storage since there is no casework or cabinets Within These rooms it was important to make sure that we provide the right types of stores so we surveyed staff on
079what type of manipul do you store how often do you store them and then we catered our specific storage needs around that survey and then in the bottom of the classroom in the back we have standing height tables three of them since we heard you and at our elementary level that standing height was so PR that is our face package so that is something every General classroom and then when we were working through this I wanted to show there's so many alternative layouts with that one package so they could create seminars they could um create layouts for testing that was a really large conversation so all of this furniture can still be used in a layout for testing um and that creates 26 testing seats when that is needed for a few days of the
080year just another layout there so students and staff will all have the f to move this furniture as he did and then those additional items this we called it a menu that we gave to the staff and they got to choose one out of these three items they're all price comparable so it wasn't like one was more expensive than the other so we had a to add some soft seating so upholster all bleach cleanable all vinyl upholstery so cleanability was also very important with the personal table he was a mobile white board with additional rocking stools and then C was an upholstered bench with personal tables as well and that would fit about two students on there so with that we then placed all of that FR in the classrooms we also showed them how
081that could be implemented so option A you could bring the soft seating to the front so it's not at first it was a concern of oh theud are sit in the back of the classroom and they're going to not pay attention when they're in the soft sea so you can bring the soft to the front and that almost be like a wanted area to sit and and be engaged option b we have our rocking stools mobile whiteboard and option C again bringing that soft scene to the front secondary science classrooms again our teacher set up at Pierce we will be having a surface that's just due to the chemical and heat that they use that's the recommended surface um we have all of these tables at 36 High that's a working counter height when they're
082in science labs and this means that any science classroom creates um flexibility for the future and that could be used as a chemistry lab so you're not pull to where you place the tables any science classroom can function as the lab needed we also have some lockable um storage there if needed for any chemicals key items that need to away and then some mobile storage being this provides 32 primary seats for students and then high school the only difference is that with the types of chemicals that high schoolers use in the the high of heat that they use it's recommended to use an epoxy surface that's um just a different type of surface that's more durable to those types of environments in a high school lab and again that will be in all Labs so
083that could be istry and then be a different chemistry classroom down the road it doesn't always have to be one classroom special education classrooms at our secondary level again brought with staff I'll just go right to the photo so Thum print desk the same Elementary reason that can be push and fold in group or individual is needed we have a little bit more types of seating with our number six would be our floor seat any student that wants to on the floor number seven being in a poster chair lock the whole file another reason for using three this Thum print table is that the longer side of it is Ada accessible so a wheelchair could pull up to that table if needed I that way and then number 11 are a Pneumatic height and flipable
084desk if there's a different need with students there as well to make sure that we make every stay successful for students then pure special classro room there'll be a maker space in our second floor which is exciting for students so we have our shop tables um our work bunches our lockable storage for tools and different industrial sh again this was created with theer space we have a seam classroom we have our our teacher desk combination we have existing student chairs storage there our art classroom staff member wanted to have our seated height and then these will be brought together to create Four Tops if wanted to our our two top tools for two students but they're all on casters needed dry and storage to that at still at Pierce we have our life skills classroom
085and we have our same art table Ty cafeteria tables with our spray on edge if there's any water in the space that will damage that table yes I don't know it's kind of a combination question here um I know um at the beginning year we had some concerns about the tables and students not have enough room to function as far as in groups did we address that issue that we won't have that going forward especially at the fourth and fifth grade level where the kids are a little bit larger and need more space they got Chrome books and then they got you know need to write somewhere and then were kind of feeling that we address that go back to that that photo as well that is helpful um I'm sorry I I see the
086photo and seen photos but actually in the classroom was the issue I know the photos are showing five kids at a space but I know when I went into the actual classroom and looked at our actual kids they were kind of like this like I can't move because the student is right next to me I need to get to my Chromebook that's what they were doing like I need more space so just have we addressed that as far as making sure our fourth and fifth grader kids have space to put their Chromebook and then be able to write and that type of thing that was not something that was brought back to me but to give a little piece of mind to that because I definitely could see that at a fourth and fifth grade
087level with just larger suits in general and they also have their four top high standing tables in the back and then the guided instruction with the table so it it does play a little bit into the use of the space and then they're able to use that guided instruction with the rocking stools as well so it's not always they're not at the five the the five top tables that you're speaking of at all times throughout the class but that is something that was brought forward through through this package as well that same set up okay thank you yeah and if I may it was it was certainly taken into consideration as well there are some Dimensions within the classrooms that dimensions are the dimensions however similarly to what Kayla shared that was taken into consideration
088we've also designed some professional development surrounding what Kayla just spoke to in terms of leveraging the space that you have based upon the learning activities that are planned in conjunction with the students so that it's not as cramped um you know Jefferson and Vandenberg um as the board knows are relatively carving copies of one another and so some of those classrooms some of their dimensions are actually slightly larger than some of the dimensions that we would see at some of our other uh elementaries but they are comparable um and then some of it is also um with class size as well so that can vary but as the board knows class size is also one of our priorities too so if we if we do our best um as it pertains to class size working
089within the dimensions that we have also providing professional development to leverage the spaces in conjunction with the flexible Furniture we believe that that we can collectively get there together to make sure that it's it's not you know all overcrowded um at least you know to the extent that we possibly can so um and thanks for bringing that forward too because I do know like you said that there was some Upper Elementary classrooms where where it was a concern especially when we first got you know some of the new pieces too so so we won't have to come back and say oh this didn't work correct okay correct Adams Adams has been a great a great showing of of the furniture and how have been able to use it so and then also similarly you know
090we made some tweaks based off of that feedback that Kayla mentioned that directly came from students and staff and so that input was taken into consideration before this package was formulated so that's so we won't feel like we're airplane people correct correct because typically I end up sitting like between two people with these guys is you bigger than I am that's all I'm saying no I don't thank you any other questions before to the chair yes real quick um I was just thinking like since you're the interior designer I noticed that the new modern desks aren't like the old school ones where they open up and then you put your stuff in it what has been like the positive or negative takeaway between like the new desks Now versus those old school ones that used
091to fin us there there's a lot more flexibility with having either individual Des or the group tables like we have at our elementary level those with the in storage desk those are very heavy and doesn't allow for students to move it they need a little bit more personal space they not able to move those as easily um and with the um in our elementary C we have 40 of those tote storage items so what we've seen is staff members give an individual tote to each student so that they need to go and grab their box of crayons they get to go up and grab their individual toe and bring it back to their table and then do that as as they need so it's it's just a lot more flexibility for students and even staff
092to have that too and then it's a little bit more of of shared res sources throughout the classroom as well thank you thank you thank you all your time next item on the agenda is discuss updates to board policy that would be mm okay well everybody got their copy last week of the board policy and I hope you had a little bit of time to read through it the committee and Matt we went over them and there were a couple of things that we had put in like what level security not necess not names but what level and we did have one question that we couldn't come to an answer with that we were sending back to niola um cuz there were varing differences of opinions and so we're kind of still waiting for that
093answer to come back and that'll come back with our next bid package or policy package so I don't know it's not in herebody Chris do you remember off the top of your head what it was uh that we were asking for the for clarification yeah it was uh confirmation on whether um school PTO fell under um a certain financial piece um on receiving BS for fund officially come in right so was a question also at work yeah okay thank you CHR anybody have any questions no questions okay next item on the agenda discuss Board of Education orientation operations man that would be Amanda grab my notse so our committee consisting of myself Miss hix and miss toer met in the spring and this rough draft went out in October I believe for the first time
094and then it went out again a couple weeks ago it looks pretty thick right now but that's only because it's reflecting changes everything that was deleted or added is all in here so it won't be this big when it's done we can also look at doing double-sided pages and changing Fant size and formatting the index too so it won't look as huge and then another thing that can be discussed with the new committee is possibly separating the orientation manual from the operation manual so it would be two separate things um let's see the main things we covered aside from updating the appendix and the index which we're the new committee will we'll have to um update the last page to reflect that the Innovation Center is now called the Brian bdus Innovation Center so that
095will have to be changed and updated for the new committee but we overall our main goal was to put all of our resources together into one spot so it was Robert's Rules of Order it was our board policies it was this nsba book as well as state and federal laws and just having them all in one place so that any future board members who have a question who might not know anything can just go to the this and it will have everything it was a lot of copy and paste um directly from policies and from those resources and everything is cited too on each page and then let me see there's a couple of I'm not going to go through Page by page but there were a couple of Main spots that I wanted to
096point out and there were a couple Pages we didn't get to our committee met for at least 2 hours on Zoom so we we couldn't touch every single page but we can go back and look at it or the new committee can look at it as well cuz it's it is a working document so even if whether things change or not they're going to change eventually or not change depending on what the board wants to do let me see here and other stuff came from masb as well um so that's Michigan Association of school boards a lot of stuff comes from them because they're who we get our education from a lot of time so one of them main things that our committee wanted to do was take out the I don't know if you
097would call this a worksheet about how the board fills a a vacancy in the board it's like a almost like a TA sheet um we thought as a committee that this didn't need to be in there um that it could be a separate document or that when the time comes to fill a board vacancy and I'm on like page 41 if anybody is wondering where I'm at um so it could be a separate document um or when the time comes to fill a board vacancy the board could then decide on a new tool because we weren't sure how outdated this interview rating sheet was or if anybody would even remember how to use it so that was something that we are suggesting to get rid of another big thing we wanted to do was add
098descriptions for the Committees because I know when I was first on the board there wasn't anything and I was always asking people what does this committee do what does this committee do who's on the committee so that has been expanded a lot to to help any new board members who are kind of curious about which committees do what so that it adds a couple pages but will be real helpful to new people and then moving forward we did insert for now the paragraph that's um that talks about Jason's specific contract which will be edited for any future superintendence or his changes but I know we when evaluation comes and his contract renewal comes sometimes we struggle to find it so we did insert it in there so that everybody has it and that was just
099a copy and paste so you can find that on page 60 and I think it's in one other place as well just in case anybody needs to uh review what his current Rivage of his contract is okay we also as a committee decided to delete the sample agendas um that was just a suggestion we had because those change all the time depending on how the superintendent and president want to write the agenda so we suggested deleting those those are on like page 31 32 33 and and see what else do we got ah on page 42 if you turn to page 42 this is an important suggestion we were going to make um we talked about inflation and the cost of things going up especially for the students so we're we're hoping to bring before
100the board um an increase to the scholarship that the board gives the students it was set at what what was it said that maybe I'm not on the right page 15 Board number it was set at 50 um and I think we talked about increasing it to 100 per board member so that the students whoever gets the scholarship from the board at the end of the year would have at least $700 because of the cost of school supplies and stuff so that's something that is kind of wrapped in with this manual and that would come out of our board individual stiens the same as it does already it would just be a little bit more to get the students um another big thing we added in here was the MS masb award levels so that
101we can encourage the development of our board members and any new board members can just flip the net and it can always be updated as well just like they recently added the specialty certifications this past last year so those are also on there and then of course the um the conflict of interest part is a copy and paste from our policy but because it's in our new policy stuff that Lor's Committee just talked about once those changes go into effect it will also have to be updated at our manual because we were suggesting just deleting whatever was there before and just copying and pasting right from the policy there's no reason to have something else written oh here's is this this yeah the scholarships on page 52 so I apologize I had the wrong page
102number but yeah we are suggesting a $100 contribution instead of $50 to the scholarship fund for a total of 700 but some of our committee even wanted to go higher than that so that's something the board can talk about to in the future if we wanted to do like $1,000 total $50 00 whatever but um so approving that would also approve that scholarship increase and then the last big addition was putting an appendix of Education acronyms and this can be added to as well because we hear acronyms all the time and we might not always know what they mean so that that's at the end as well as definitions of certain stuff when you're a new board member you might not know what any of this stuff is so it's all to help new board
103members and that's like several pages of definitions and I think that is the gist of it right are there any questions um to the chair yes um I don't know it could be a question or a statement or something um this is a lot of information and Amanda gate did a great job you did a great job of explaining I want to say six pages maybe eight pages in 10 to 12 minutes it's so much in here even the lights going off somebody move home I know cute that's crazy I think that's me personally it's I have still have stuff that I still have questions about like red usually means new correct am I red usually mean something is new inside of a document um if it has a red line through it that's us
104suggesting it be deleted if it doesn't then that would be the addition TR change so red means cuz I see some stuff is red and no lines through it and some stuff is red with lines through it and it's just a lot that's all I keep saying it's a lot of stuff is all of this necessary or needed I get the thought behind it of trying to put everything in one document and everybody has their preference about what they would want if I would have came on to the board and they would have said here I'd have been like what is happened this stuff for I think it's a lot of information for a new board member or an old board member it's just a lot and for those who want all this information I
105think it's great I wouldn't want all of this in front of me as a board member like I said it's personal preference I personally feel like if we're I don't even feel comfortable like bringing this up to the next board meeting and be like vote on it because it's so much in here this needs to be it's it's so much red and so much lines and so much so much and like I said I get the meaning behind it we want to have all the information and documentation and everything else in one spot this needs to be a whole another day because I have so many questions we would be here to midnight the chair yes can I follow up this document went out to the board twice for review I would ask my board
106did they do their due diligence talk to me directly you got to say my board you can say Daniel no I'm talking as the board as a whole we have a a job I'm not going to put out names or targeted people it was sent out last fall it was and then it was sent out again months ago so I asked this board did they do the due diligence you accept your job you know our Norms how we operate um how we accept our committee's proposals and stuff have you contacted the committee chair with any of your concerns or questions I'm going to in the last four months I'm going to say this we all have set at this table and said things that we are comfortable and uncomfortable with I said that it was
107I get the meaning of the document I just as all of us have said don't feel comfortable voting on something or not so it's due diligence yes I've looked through all this yes I have and I still don't think there's enough time to go through this and just be like yes I just think that it needs to be you know you see how much red in here how much lines in it is this is a lot of information but you understand the process once we approve it it's printed okay then you'll see exactly how it looks and then we can go back and move forward to 2025 with a new committee and if there things you don't like get it we do it it's it's a continuous but we are obligated when we accept as
108a committee and how we operate to there's certain processes we do yes I I think it's very the word respect is tossed around at this board table out all the time I find it personally very disrespectful when committee chairs aren't treated how we normally do our Norms if you had questions and concerns you could have voed them do to the chair do you want go there miss sherff flesher can we go back to Steve a few years ago when he was a committee chair and he said no to a certain school and you came with a whole motion so don't come with once again once again if we're going to do this let's remember everything we did you literally came with a motion from under the table that me as a board member knew nothing
109about so don't talk respect if we know I have to tell no no I was still you stop point of order please okay go ahead talk I was speaking I was just asking does this SP the whole know the process to keep putting it off and putting it off is totally going against everything you don't have to agree with it you can vote against it but let's move it forward one way or another or send it back to committee for review and we have to treat every committee the same what that is all I'm saying let me finish well please to the chair Miss bleser once again don't talk about respecting a committee chair when you literally three plus years ago disrespected Steve on 20,000 Levels by we're talking about this no you're talking about
110respecting the committee chair we don't want to talk about we're talking about process I'm done you know what you did and I'm done with it I said how I feel go ahead so getting back to this disrespective whole things I don't think this is the discussion portion of this operations manual I agree with you Amanda I think it should be separated it's a lot he's this is a lot you know what I'm saying I'm not saying all of it is wrong it is points of contention that I have with certain points of here again this is the discussion portion of the board of education's operation orientation manuals and bylaws I find nothing personal here at this table right now do I see frustration yes because the same disrespect that you talk about thrown at somebody
111else can't be thrown back to you you know what I'm saying and I'm not trying to say that you are disrespecting somebody personally everybody has their own feelings here right at the table Daniel is very spiritedly saying his that's not you know what I'm trying to say but I just think that this is a lot it's 122 pages on here when we had 42 pages of an orientation man so do I think that this can be discussed in two weeks nope I don't especially when we all know that there's a breakdown of communication at this table there is it's just here it is what it is so how do we do that we come together with someone else to facilitate what each of our feelings are and each and what each of us means at
112this table Daniel has expressed what he don't like about this manual and the fact that it's it's a little big that mean there's no denying that you know so I read this three times I read the original manual then I read this manual and then I'm cross referencing in between reading both again and Amanda you make some really good points really good definitions not just me your whole committee you guys remember and then that brings me to another question your committee so you guys only you've only met once yep we met once for about came up with 122 pages of orientation there were a couple back and for that weren't a meeting but yeah well written I just think is some things in here that we need to discuss as a board before we can
113say yes to any of it I think some of it is a little biased it's a little operational it it has many points of contention embedded in this so I agree with that this needs to be a meeting in itself so we can thoroughly go through and that's not to disrespect you as chair of that committee or whatever else you guys wrote whatever you think should be in here cuz I still respect that we didn't write anything just to clear that up for you guys this is all copy and pasted from our policy still you copied and pasted what you thought should be in here direct from directly writing it or not direct from Robert rules your copy and paste was what you guys thought that you should be in here and that's what I'm
114getting at the thought processes that you had when you copied and paste it to put it in here well that's what we talking about no disrespect no disrespect I get it I just I just think this is a lie and my reasoning for not contacting is because we have a deeply rooted this day for communication between all of us you know what I'm saying so sometimes that needs further talking from someone else so the chair yes yeah my my whole stand on it and I don't want people to take it wrong or take it personally is we have the process we could have started that process of R re reviewing it and stuff back when it first was sent out that is my thing we keep procrastinating and not doing our due diligence as a
115board we could have started this process and set up a time for discussion if that's what the board chose to do back in the fall here it is we're trying to end 24 move into 25 we set new committees two months ago to move forward and we still have old business and if we don't like how we're handling our committees and we want to have more control as a whole board then I think we're going to be forced we can't pick and choose what committees it's going to be every committee then every committee is going to have to defend and explain how they come up with how we evaluate ourselves there should be deadlines and guidelines we need to finish one year's business to move on to the other that's my my only only thing
116everybody is entitled it is a large document but I know the committee was tasked and asked by people because we've had things come up in the past where does it say that show me where it's written so when you try to clear that up when you have some board members that want more in information and want to see okay where is it written they want to see the hardell it evidence and there's been many people at this table that asked for it it wasn't there the original document is 20 25 years old and it's been changed that's why it's a living document and that's why we move forward Year from year and uh I I know some think it's a big document it's a lot to learn but you know what when we're elected as
117board members it is we are charged to do certain things and it explains what our job is if you have a question you can choose to read it or not you can choose to change it or accept it you can choose to vote no we all have that right but it's it's the timeline and the respect of the work that's done and you can't pick and choose what committees are targeted so if we go down that path and keep pushing it back then I would requestly re respectfully request I want to see the evaluation committee the board evaluation committee we haven't had an evaluation which has hung us up for two years now no goals and stuff we're connected this is part of our business and our job so if we're going to go down
118that path as a board then let's start scheduling those extra meetings let's get these committees together let's get the process done we go through all of this we wait we bring it back and we can't seem to all get on the same page to keep moving us forward and you can twist and bring back the past but I swear every one of us was at a development one where we agreed to move forward and leave the past in the past I'm not bringing up the past I'm just telling you what the process and the policies are if this board doesn't want to go that way then start putting resolutions on the table and go for change I mean that is your prerogative I'm just stating what is in effect now what people have asked for
119and if you're so communication or not it takes nothing if you don't want to send a text or pick up the phone send an email to the committee and say hey I have a question that's all I'm saying is respect the time it's one of our Norms we agreed with as a board so that's all I have to say I'm not targeting an individual I I think we need to do a lot of soul searching and we have to be equal across the for we can't pick and choose did J what I was going to say was part of the reason we put all those things that are pertinent to each of them is because everybody's asking where's that written now you have one place to go where it's written yes I get that fully
120but there are also some things in here that I think that are pous to certain points you know what I mean like it's like it's a I feel chastised and that part isn't even about me as my role as V vice president on the board you know what I'm saying I just I just don't feel it just doesn't sit right with me it doesn't and I'm going to be I'm going to be really honest and say I agree with 90% of what you just said but to me something like this I one thing that we do that I like we throw stuff at each other you know what I'm saying and then there's no oh we'll just discuss it and considering it just and we'll vote no we'll go from here instead of getting to
121the root of why we cannot have conversation certain conversations I don't have an ill will towards anybody on this on this thing will I agree with you no most of the time but I also know how to compromise I also know how to get things done I also know how to look outside of a personal space to come together to this board table I don't want you to think that this is a bash of what this is cuz I some of this is really good but there are pieces that overshadow that in this and that part is what I can't vote for we need to talk about that we can't do that sitting here together as we can see right now this is just the discussion part we're just talking about it and everybody on
122t you know what I'm saying you know this is a lot may I make a suggestion since this is just a discussion Point yet can you put those in the the points that you're most concerned about in an email a text give it to Mr Bob as long as it can get back to the committee so that we can look at it I can do both I can talk about it right now have them written down and then I will send it to you and an email thank you no problem for me you know what that's what I don't like though not what you just said but I'm going to say what I wrote down right M somebody is going to get mad cuz they're not going to like what I say right and then
123this is going to turn into something else that it shouldn't be tonight cuz it's halfway there now so I'm going to start the outline for orientation of newly elected board members when you talked about you got the committee talked about the copy of the superintendent contract the copy of the staff salary schedules and benefits the district legal councel contract all of those things are available to us I don't think it should be written and given to us if you want to come look at it then you come to the central office and ask to see it there that we can follow I'll do that in my email because I didn't write that part down I put that in my email cuz some things and then it said it's a lot of things are repetitious and
124I get that it's copy and paste I get that but some the stuff that we're supposed to be given as a board member though is in policy or is recommended by masb NBA and I saw your references mean that we have to get it no but we included it just it says that though you know what I'm saying so maybe we can tweak that a little bit I did read where your references came from right the president's role a lot of that to me is just like a it's a lot it's word heavy you know nobody alive can be all the things that is said in that the president's role you know what I mean cuz we're people we're human well that's what they're supposed to do though according to NB and NSB so if
125you were to check those two resources that's to put all of that down in there like I said our reference where you got it from I got that we one conversation point of order m is talking I'm the committee chair and I'm responding to it's us yeah it's Misha's got the floor surely no respect but Misha has the floor now the floor yeah that's what I'm saying that's what I was saying Misha was speaking to also a discussion and since I didn't get the questions ahead of time I should be allowed to respond to them as should you and Lori as well because you guys were on the committee it's not just me that's right and I'm just saying one conversation another time that's conversation or one person talking cuz now you're confusing one person
126talking so do you want her to just read her whole list and nobody says anything or mhm yes okay I do so those are my two points of contention that outlined the orientation about the contracts being copied and given the president's entire role it's like three pages of of a lot of things we are all adults sitting at this table we do know how to act 85% of the time we know how to conduct ourselves you know what I mean I don't think we need that needs to be etched and stol in the manual and those are really my two points other than the other repetitious St like you said it was a copy of face and I get in our reference I looked at your references do the chair yes we do need to
127have the superintendent roles in there because that's what we evaluate them on yeah but I was talking about the the copy of the contract being said to somebody all those other things I'm okay with all the other things she put in there superintendent role like those were really good explanations of things you know so I'm not knocking it at all it's a really good explanation it would be really good for a new member to have those things it's just certain little things in there you know that are very is it's making some kind of and I'm not even saying that she's doing it I think that that you all are doing the committee it's just very very very in this point of contention that we're in because we're still in one y'all don't know this
128we are still in a point of contention because the things that we have done thus far to try to bring this board together has not worked right so from looking from that point from that perspective I see points of contention that will do this to people's minds and click to the left when we should be right you know what I'm saying so that's all I'm saying we need to be real careful about what we put in this paper to be sure that we are unbiased for everybody here but you're going to send us an email I will I will I will go back in because I have it I just didn't put it on my nice little reference paper here so I will send them email to the committee and then we'll take a look
129at it thank you to the chair yes I think it's important for the board to remember to not take everything personally either the goal of our committee was orientation and operation so the main focus was to help a new board member it's not to pick on any existing board members that's what that's an opinion though the main goal the honest to God truth is that it's for somebody who's coming on to the board no knowledge where can they get all the information if they don't have this book that book access to the internet or wherever to look at our policies it's right there for them that's the main issue however if people want to like take it personone interpret it a certain way that's on them but honestly from my perspective and hopefully from the
130rest of my committee it's nothing personal it's nothing set in stone because it changes every time there's a committee and it changes every year so and at the end of the day whether you vote this in or not this is our job job requirements this is our policies whether it's right here physically in front of you or not it's not going to change that those are your job duties those are your policies so whether you want it in there or not if you don't want to see it fine vote it down but it still exists out there it just won't be at your fingertips and I just want to say this this is board business this is not a person no attack on anybody and if we sit here that that was one of the
131reasons that I asked you Amanda did you want a special workshop for this because it was a lot and that was it that was why I asked it's not a lot for me it's you I'm just saying that's just you yeah but you as me as the chair no other chair of this specific committee has ever had a workshop so I didn't think we needed one I I said a special board either way we've never had to do that to just talk about a manual before that's copy and past I know but because we had never had it this much of a change it's not a change though all of this stuff already exists I'm saying and we just have it in one spot now this manual is what we have now and this is
132what we came up with yeah so I'm just saying that was why I called you and asked me as a chair did you think that we needed a just a special meeting to discuss this when I said no because if the board doesn't like it then it goes back to the committee to work on and then they bring it back again that is is why I ask you because of the magnitude of what's in red but didn't you also discuss with me two years ago that we wanted to incorporate all these different resources into one document so now you're saying it's too much no what I'm saying to you is that we need it and this is my opinion we needed to go more in depth in this copy that's that's why I asked did
133you want to do a special Mee why do you think we need to go more up if everything is copy and pasted from the resources that we talked about well because of this men and this men that was why that was the reason that doesn't answer the question though shely we talked about combining four different resources into one doc so did you think that it was just going to be 20 pages long I was in that we didn't talk about that you and I talked about it on the side and we also talked about it in our meeting and but we didn't talk about some things in this manual is what should be operational like what I I I'll send it to you this is a discussion I don't understand why you guys couldn't have
134sent questions in advance or been prepared to discuss it at the table and just so you know a lot of the operational stuff in here for the administrative team and Jason is all information that we should have as board members to know what their are things that we don't need a copy of the contract the superintendent's contract then all you have to do is say that like hey let's cut that part out then the committee can go through and cut it out if we want to that's all you have to say we may I call a point of order yes it's obviously we're not going anywhere with this tonight no we're not can we move on on our agenda please yes mhm yes we can and and like I said that is why I asked
135that question and if you didn't understand it I did understand it and I don't agree that we need a special meeting okay well then we we we will we will move on to the next agenda the next the next agenda item is consider masb Board elections thank you madam president the South Redford School Board is an active member of the Michigan Association of school boards in Region 8 this year Region 8 has one seat on the Michigan Association School Board of Directors up for election for a three-year term the board is eligible to cast one vote voting in Region 8 will take place through an online ballot the online voting window is open until March 5th 2025 at 1: p.m. Eastern Standard Time candidate information for the Michigan Association of School Board of Directors for
136Region 8 is listed below and the board discussed their selection of a candidate at our most recent meeting on February 10th 2025 Madam president a resolution is attached for the board consideration to the chair yes I know we discussed the different candidates at our last board meeting and and I brought forth the name um rodri means um I would like to see if the board would follow suit and agree to support rodri means and and put him as our our vote Okay do um do I have anybody that objects to um Roger R rodri means as not being our candidate we we have you say that backwards yes okay yes I did we did discuss we did discuss that rodri um was seemed to be the most um eligible and the most experienced to be
137on this board of directors now um do I have a board member that does not agree with that well do I have a board member willing to adopt the resolution I thought I just support okay it's been moved by Mrs flesher and supported by Mrs early that we accept that we nominate rodri n as the threeyear term for the masb board all in favor that's seven eyes any Nays zero Nays so the resolution will be that we accept Rog me as the masb candidate to the chair yes who takes care of the voting for this do because okay I thought it was you but it said superintendent is directed on here so I just making sure no thanks okay next item on the agenda is comments from the audience topics not related to the agenda
138Mrs Woods Woods I don't know if you guys are being aware of everything that's going on at school at Pier school but I would like to do what to Y as the dance team you have Spirit dance and I just want to let yall know that for two weeks straight they have worked tirelessly we tirelessly and when I say for the whole week I'm including Sunday in that I'm including eight hours on Sundays for the last two weeks every day that your students your dance team over up appears they had a competition in Orville Saturday and I would like to introduce yall to Michigan State Champions Pierce Middle School Dance te wonder and air this is air this is my granddaughter and she's the best dancer no that's what they voted her ass the congratulations
139but they all are great I just want you to know that the coaches over there sometimes I I I will admit I'm very busy and I got every time they call and well they have to meet on this on sat Saturday then it there Sunday I got to church I I miss I don't know how many rehearsals I was like oh not again and I admit I I was tired you know but I will say it was well worth every month moment of it they are working really good with with our students over here I want to say that just want you to know that okay that's all of that and if you will allow me Madam president um on another note a personal more personal note I want to let you know board members
140um I come here and I I've learned a lot from observing the board um to be to help myself be productive because I am the President of Pierce middle school PTO as well um as well as the South record foundation and I let me just say this uh from um a person on the outside of the board looking in sitting and observing I just want you to know I'm learning from you guys I'm sorry from from everyone then say guys and if you will allow me just a a personal opinion I move by by God I as to just order my steps and you don't I'm not producing My Religion on anyone or anything like that but this is where the spirit L me right now for right now if you as a board everyone
141ran for this election this year and you voted in and you won knowing everyone's position on this board knowing the disagreements that has been on your board as a person if you let go and you adults and I don't have to tell you this but sometimes if as adults if we be reminded of things from an unexpected person maybe we'll take it into perspective if you let go the past animosity that I'm I'm seeing and I don't know what it is but I see it if you let that go and and work toward what we really here for and that's for the students and not to gain personal brownie points we would be able to as a team take refer so far like you brag on how Ram do this or leavon doing that or
142Canton is doing that refer can do it too and we can do it better if we do it together we're combining South reford foundation with the alumni I would like to be able to come here and feel comfortable with sharing the things that's going on with the foundation to take it to places it's never been before I've been a resident of top record for 36 years and I have never known that we even had a foundation I've never known that we can even come into a board meeting so to say from that time till now it has came a long way to even be able to sit here and observe and be a part of your meetings and you set a big a high standard example for us me the foundation because I was trying
143to figure out how do I get through problem on the PTO I I can't come here and ask how to get through what I'm going through with my PTO committee because I see the same thing going on here so how can I come and ask hear or observe how to handle the animosity that sits on that PTO that I'm trying to combine with the community and take it somewhere so I just want to say this if before you bring it to the public you got to get it together within within here before we take it out because I would love to combine our PTO with all the South refer PTO cuz that's my goal and it's going to happen because I'm a forgiving person you got to be a forgiving person and you don't have
144to like somebody that you with but when we sit and we do for the kids sometimes we have to compromise sometimes I'm hearing different committees I'm hearing your committee and being the chairperson of this committee and that committee sometimes as a chairperson or president of any committee you may have to compromise if the way that you're not the way that you're doing things is not working within sometimes we have to do things out of the ordinary we have to do it out of the ordinary to make things happen and I believe in the board you you guys can we can do this and I'm not a part of the board but I'm a family oriented person so I'm saying we because I want to be able to come back to the board and say listen
145this is what the foundation doing we need your opinion doing this but how can I do that when like you said it yourselves you can't get along Let It Go Let It Go yall did a whole year I watched this I watched this you don't have to like each other you don't have to be friends but what we do have to do is be an example to our children because the kids get kicked out of school for things that I've seen here kids get kicked out of school okay they get k out school for what I see right here so how can you exclude a student from school for the things that we as adults you doing on a board you sit here do this is for the community we got to do better we
146got to do better and I heard y'all say y'all was friends thank you so much okay I know my time and I just want to say I love you and we can do this thank can I make one com yeah now you said you were tired following your granddaughter around in the last two weeks getting her to practice and said how you think she feels okay I know I know but guess what she they was Michigan State Championship so my my teaching to her is it was all worth it because sometimes it's hard work would bring the reward it's a rainbow at the end Mr Bob you're going to have to tell Mr Rudy better get a dance competition going absolutely for the high school yes or a dance team and teaching one yeah up
147and coming and that was all SP love just so y know yes than you so much thank you next item on the agenda is plus Delta for includ Mr bar what processes supported the board's work this evening I could say th's presentation yeah I mean that was it wasn't overly long wasn't too short we got data but I was very pleased with their presentation and I'm glad to see our numbers coming up yeah to yes glad to see that I'm going piggy back on what Lori is saying CU that was a whole child well-rounded presentation you know what I mean like it hit all the points it was nice to see yes opportunities for improvement oh can I add one good thing um I think we should also thank the CTE oh for the cookies
148and the uh vinyl sticker thing too and the shark re board to the chair yes on another positive note um Kathy made good points she picked up on a lot and when you talk about working as a group and moving forward which we've all agreed to do that we do need to leave the past in the past and move forward and we need to respect our processes and stuff and until we can all get on the same page I can say Okay me should made some good points I don't think anything that she expressed and thank you for speaking up what you disliked by doing that I don't think it's anything the committee cannot work through and compromise on it was not unreasonable I I agree with you know like you said 90% of it
149and I applaud you for having that discussion and finally the sad part is which goes into Delta is that we have to communicate with each other and keep it transparent it should a lot of this didn't have to SP over to the board table if there's questions and concerns and if it had been expressed to the committee ahead of time they could have talked and chances are they would have compromised removed your suggestions cuz at least that's how it's happened in the past years that I've been part it didn't have to come to the table it didn't have to come to bringing up the past and people getting hurt or offended or taking it personally because it's not we all agreed and keep agreeing that we want to move forward and we work together we
150don't have to like each other but until we can lead the past in the past and when one of us doesn't like what one of them saying bring up the past and shoot again not going to move forward and I can't support us paying for extra development and people coming in it's all money when we're going into a budget and we're already been drawing down for years fund equity and it's a bargaining year I ask that this board think hard and long why are you on the board do you have a Personal Agenda or can we get past it and work together I mean how many times in our life we don't like our bosses we don't like the person but you find a way to cohabitate and to get by and we're never going
151to get that until we stop bringing up the past and shooting at each other about the past we start each day as a fresh day and we move forward from there I mean we had some good discussion here and if people do send the emails it can be a lot of it can be answered and it doesn't have to boil over at the table and it shouldn't boil over at the table but it keeps happening and Kathy spoke very eloquently yes I mean you might not like what I say you might not like it but I'm a person I am a policy follower I Believe In following the law and policy I believe in financial being um financially sound so it's it's respecting each of our strengths and our weaknesses but don't keep bringing up
152the past it just opens that wound that might start let's let's move forward and like Kathy said it is for the kids that's why we're here it doesn't what matter what happened 3 years ago it's not going to change we're here at this moment in time so let's move forward as a board any extra meetings we have it's not going to do any good until we all look inside ourselves and say hey I'm going to do this you know and quit firing at each other because it's really hard not to take it personally with somebody keeps you know we all make choices but we learn and we move forward each and every one of us is not perfect and what's that saying she talks about religion you know if you live in a glass house
153don't be the one to throw the first stone because we all have our weeks and our strengths and and working together we can accomplish good things and that is what's very disheartening is a story and three of us were elected to six more years so we don't want to continue down this path so I think it's a Delta that we cannot get past it and we can't leave the past in the past thank you yes are we where are we class Delta we still the class or we at the Delta okay whichever you need so this is I in my 50 years of life right I've been through some things y'all seriously but at 50 I have realized that trauma f follows you so we can sit here and we can say oh let the
154past be the past and but you remember things as things come up right and to me I am doing a better job of making Misha better you know I'm letting go of traumatic stressors but to do that got to talk about it you know what I mean you can't cut somebody else off cuz you don't like the way it makes you feel because of something that you did makes them feel a certain way we have to look into ourselves and realize that to receive the grace of a let byon be by I fully understand what what Kathy said also read in between the lines as well to fully do that we are all seven of us are going to sit at this table and we going to lay out which each of us have done
155to each other trauma emotional trauma we're angry all the time that's trauma what it does to your body and to your mind or when you sit here and when you see somebody that you disagree with like I said I respect each and every one of you at this table do I agree with you Cheryl no am I going to let that affect me anymore no you know what I'm saying but because I have realized what my role in the situation is that's it I'm realizing those things and only then can we change a traumatic experience that's what we experiencing up here the traumatic experience of how we're going to relay and we're not doing a good job of relaying we just got cussed out you know what I mean we're not doing a good job
156it's really we're not doing a good job but in order to move forward you got to get the Wiggles out you know what I mean so that can be here cuz we don't say anything about it it's going to continue to follow us and chip chip chip chip away I don't want that for any of us we don't deserve it we here to do a job Santa Plus or both I don't know I don't know what that was you know what I mean we just really need to be adults about situation before I adjourn I personally I really would ask this board to think about having a retreat because this is that to me and that's my opinion that's what we need because some and and and and I said this earlier today some of
157the things that needs to be discussed and talked about cannot be done from this board table we and and I would just ask that the board really think about that a retreat a retreat yes and that's just where us go somewhere no I didn't well no not go somewhere we don't have to go somewhere nothing cuz I'm going to put it to you this way you don't build a skyscraper in a swamp you need to have foundation and until until until people fess up to what they did and what they're doing it's never going to change and that's that lady that just talked to that portal she's a forgiving lady they for and and church people are for I'm not forgiving like that that's not how it works well you want to know something El
158not going happen people don't get people don't get to do things to me and think it just goes away you have have to you're going to have to come to the podium and fix your Rong before I start even building anything with I'm just I'm going to break it down is camera recording for the world to see until they fix what they did it's not going to change well period they got people here that's got hidden agendas we all know that I'm not I'm not great sugarcoat that we got here for no reason at all AJ all I'm saying go ahead and hit your thing so we can get out just think about having a retreat negative miver that's okay if miver all right are you talking about a retreat um to talk about just
159board stuff in general or to go over talk about board stuff in okay so point of clarification would you like our old committee to meet and go over this or did you want to get with Jason and plan something with the board because obviously it's not going to come back for a vote right now I would like to get with Jason and so we can come together because until we come together and I'm hope until we come together it will we'll we'll never go anywhere and that's all I'm saying so so clarifying you want to have a special meeting for this or do you want our committee to meet and talk about stuff first the three of us first what I'd like to do is have a special meeting for the board to air out
160some things that there is that's what i' like and I just want the board would think about so to the chair yes I'm a little bit confused too Misha said she had her questions and with submit them can you go forward with getting the questions that Daniel or AJ or even yourself even as a committee me or me can you go ahead and get those in to the committee to start to continue that disc discussion instead of just it's just not it's just not this it's too many other things but I think you should well I think that's two separate issues and I think we can but I want to discuss what a world can see and I'm not you know that very you know if if there is concerns each one it might some
161of us might not have any concerns at all some might think it's too big just get those concerns to the committee and you guys remet and see is it something you can address and bring back to the board to continue the process or do you table it what's the will of the board I want to discuss and I don't mind I mean it is two separate things so getting I think that the um policy um I'm sorry the orientation manual committee can still move forward with the stuff that's a totally different that's a offshoot so I can get my questions concerns and email and so that's something different I don't mind that at all okay but we're talking about two separate things you're talking about a meeting and so just to answer the question to
162show had I I could send stuff to the committee members and voice my concerns so that can continue to move forward you know the whole you know Retreat that's a whole another that's what you were talking about I don't have nothing to say about that right not so to the chair can you clarify if we decide as a board the committee moves forward for one and you're discussing a retreat and it's surprising may be two separate issues right right we're gonna split it out so as she's talking about it she thinks we should come together as a board again and this might surprise you and I'm glad you're sitting down I support AJ's thought now is not the time and we're in no position to come together for a special Retreat or a special Workshop
163we've had five or six and we say the right words we do the right things but we're just stuck in that rut so to me right now personally and it's just my opinion but it happens to kind of mirror you I think it would be a waste of time plus it costs money every time we have a facilitator in I didn't say a facilitator I said a board meeting to discuss if if it's a board meeting that it's posted and it's posted within agenda and stuff as a meeting if it is a workshop or that it's more laidback it's still posted and the community can come you know and sit I just I I personally don't think it will do us any good but that's my thought if the majority of the board feels that
164it will help fine but I don't think it would help yes so I I'm about to read what Mr Young was just he just sent me a text message brand hi Terry I just want to say how disappointed and embarrassing tonight's meeting was I was supposed to bring my seventh grader glad I didn't is there any way I can help if there's any way I can help let me know also there's any if there's any opportunity suggest removing redundancy of that manual now I know he don't know what's in the manual who said that Terry young okay I don't know who he is you know so he's been to several meetings yeah but um parent he's parent but very active that Adams and and Pierce but for someone to be sitting there from the outside
165looking in he's been to three meetings maybe and can clarify and pinpoint it's a problem it is and I I get what you saying I get what you saying cuz we are seven hardheaded strong willed people sitting here on this thing but something has got to get I'm going to cut you up let's not generalize that seven harded I'm only going to speak for myself okay well let me speak for myself I got elected to this board I got elected to this board and I didn't open my mouth and say you are correct and I was and I was it was just boom bombarded B see I get I get to stand aside from all this y'all been here together I'm I'm but you still a part of this group I don't I don't get
166I'm not taking none of that seven of yard none of that because I didn't open my mouth I stay quiet so let me let me me let me rephrase I mras me I'm a very stubborn strong willed impatient person right and I don't know about y'all but I look out and see all of these faces and everybody talking and looking and we look bad yeah we do we look real bad and that concerns me yes it does so one little little horn over here is saying I agree totally with what y'all saying we ain't going to never do get along we going to never do until everybody come to that table and be truthful in the things that has created what we are dealing with right now this is created this is not something that
167just happens we have created it now we need to uncreate and do something better we have to you know something guys I have tried to do this I have tried to do this and it doesn't work you know why it doesn't work because nobody wants to say well maybe maybe I'll try doing this that's the reason I mentioned tonight about Scott and the one word so I also want to pick you back off Scott's Workshop because I I learned a lot so did I from what people said at that workshop and from what people didn't say at that Workshop it's one thing to not have an opinion there another one to hold it okay you know what I mean we are all at F that's all I'm saying some more than others and on if
168you can't get past that part cuz I don't believe in letting things go and leaving it there because it still resonates still resonates I can't physically do that I have learned that it it affects me physically so I have to say some things I have to get that up for the betterment of me and you you know cuz that thought process is still there I still have an ill will towards you and I'm like oh hi Sheryl you know how's your day and I'm saying all type things in my head let's start with this let's start with this let's not no disrespect to that man back here why is he here who is he protecting why is he here who's afraid of something in here why is he here I can answer that question to
169CH yes he's here because I asked for him because of the many times I've been personally verbally attacked and the underlying things so if you want to get it out there that's why I think this is a very toxic place I feel people have vendettas I feel they hold the past against you they don't look at what's going on currently and what the goals are so to answer your question that man is here because I asked for it because he allows me to be here to be in my safe Zone never in 21 years have I felt like I felt the last two years and you guys talk about feelings and getting it out there and nobody wants to go but that is the question and if anybody asks me at any time I'll I'll
170tell you but as our president has said the board table is not always the place but I have never Shi away I don't lie you pick up the phone you call me meet for a cup of coffee I will gladly answer any of your questions well to the board or to the chair I have a suggestion two years we are doing this the same thing we did earlier at this point let's just call the meeting for the night go home and think about it and hopefully not bring it back at our next meeting that's why I said that's why I asked the board to think about it that is the reason because I already know that it's going nowhere well it's still going nowhere here now tonight that's what I'm say so I just asked
171the board to think about having a a retreat because some things just cannot be done at this table that's it if there's nothing further that comes before this meeting I journ this meeting