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Board of Education Candidate Forum

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YouTube / Lindbergh Schools
Date
2022-03-15
Location
St. Louis County, MO
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14,753 words · about 82 min
Collected
2026-06-08

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001it's my honor and privilege to serve as  the superintendent of limburg schools   i want to thank our candidates this evening for  providing us some time to get to know them better   as well as to why each of them are running for  the board of education being a board member   can be a really rewarding experience also at  times it can be a thankless experience as well   lots of hours time commitment it's a voluntary  position so i just want to thank the four of them   for being willing to serve our amazing students  our wonderful teachers and staff our great parents   our community as a whole so just thank you guys  for willing to serve and with that i want to thank   the league of women voters for hosting tonight's  event and with that i am going to

002turn it over   to kathleen farrell for i believe some further  instruction so again thank you all for attending i'm going to stand up can everybody hear  me in the back all right thank you dr lake   good evening and then and before  we start uh i'd like to just mark   the event tonight because we have the privilege  of gathering to talk about our children to talk   about our district and i'd like to have a  moment of silence for the people of ukraine   they do not have that privilege right now and  i think that's important for us to remember   as we engage this evening so  just one moment of silence okay i want to thank the district and particularly  uh andrea hosenfeld and beth johnson and dr lake   for making this happen and this forum is being 

003live streamed on the district's youtube channel so   you can look at that and it'll stay up so you can  look at it later and send it to your friends and   family my name is kathleen farrell of the st louis  league and i'm going to be your moderator this   evening and i want to thank the candidates for  participating you're going to have the privilege   of electing two candidates for two three-year  terms to serve on the board of education here   they are up here in the order as they appear on  the ballot mr david randleman ms jennifer miller   ms kerry clay and ms julia voss the league  believes that one of the best ways for voters   to learn about people seeking election is to hear  candidates speak in an unrehearsed kind of manner   and to answer your

004questions not my  questions your questions in a public forum   now they're going to give their opening  statements in that order as they appear   on the ballot and then for the closing statements  we're going to start with ms vos and go this way   and then what we're going to do so  those are going to be two minute   statements and we have a fine time keeper over  there miss margaret gray who takes no nonsense   and she's going to give them fair warning  and then what we're going to do is give each   candidate an opportunity in one minute to answer  each question and what i'm going to do is keep   rotating down so that the next you know  everybody takes turns being first and last in   in between if there is a question that  is addressed to a

005particular candidate   what i've done is i've tweaked that question a  little bit so that all the candidates can answer   because every candidate has a right to  answer every question now here's your job and   i think you've already done a fine job  of it and i know you'll continue to do it   this is the pile of questions that i received  from the district over 120 of them okay in   addition to that you have the opportunity  to come up with new questions tonight   and again the questions that are posed to these  candidates are not the league's questions or the   district's questions they're your questions and so  what we're going to do is to try to answer as many   as we can you're going to think about some things  and so when you're done if you need another

006card   raise your hand our volunteers if you could  raise your hands back there they're looking   all around and as soon as you need another card or  if you have a card that's ready to pick up they're   going to come get it now they've got a list  of questions that i've tried to pull from here   so that we're not going to have any repeat  questions okay but lots of times when you listen   to people speak you think of something else and so  i want to get as much of that in here as possible you can audio tape this or videotape it as you  want and i in the league in good faith am trying   to represent as many as i think the pressing  issues that you all are concerned with are okay   anybody have any questions

007about that all  right with that in mind then we are going to   begin with opening statements and  mr randleman i think you're first thank you um so yes my name is david randleman  i immigrated here with my family about 10   years ago originally from israel i was born in  jerusalem we have four children in the district   two in high school and two in concord elementary i work as a computer architect a  cloud computing architect sorry and um   i've been a director of i.t in my past and system  engineering along with financial operations when   we moved here we hand picked lindbergh schools  because of its reputation of being a top school   district and because of the teachers and the  great el program i'm very thankful for being here   um you know my children have flourished here

008uh  and from no english at all they are not now top   students in the district as far as involvement in  the community i participate in the dei committee   i try to bring in an immigrant perspective  i support other programs like the forte   ptg i have a business and financial  background especially specialize in   optimization and large organizations and  i have a real estate business we are fully   invested here in lindbergh schools and i really  couldn't see my children going anywhere else   as far as reasons for running um as mentioned  uh i really appreciate what lindbergh schools   has done for us and i want to give something  back to the community i also have some concerns   over the academics recently uh with about 50  of our third and fourth graders being below   proficiency levels and math and

009about 35 percent  in ela and i know we don't teach to the test   anymore but i still have concerns about um not  meeting the missouri state standard proficiency   um beyond that i want to time is up mr random okay  sorry thank you okay if we could hold applause i   forgot to say that do we get to the end and  then we'll have a rousing one how about that okay mrs miller well thank you to the  league for running in the district for   hosting and for everyone here  tonight and watching at home   i'm jennifer miller i am currently on  the board and i'm running for re-election   my husband and i bought our first home together  in limburg 17 years ago and we have two children   in the district a fifth grader at concord  and a seventh

010grader at sparing i'm a former   special education teacher and i currently work  with very young children with disabilities and   developmental delays and so i know how important  it is for children to get access to the programs   they need to succeed i'm running again because i  want to make sure we continue our work that the   board has prioritized based on feedback we have  received from the community these past four years   i believe in looking at the whole picture and i  will work towards structured literacy rigorous   challenging instruction for all students continued  safety and security oversight transparency and   open two-way communication with the community i  want to make sure that we continue to be fiscally   responsible we continue to have good relationship  with our teachers and staff and that we prioritize   instruction and programs that benefit all

011students  and we need to place value on the things that   matter most our students and the learning  that takes place in our classrooms every day   originally when i ran for the board i wanted  to work towards our growing student enrollment   developing a strategic plan and repairing  relationships with staff while including the   community and setting priorities for the district  we have done many of those things our high school   is addressing our incoming high school enrollment  and we will have a new permanent home for the   gifted center to alleviate space at our middle  schools and elementary school we have developed   the strategic plan and we have a master facility  plan now which was created based on feedback   from the community we have implemented a  tuition-free full-day kindergarten and facilitated   healthy relationships with our staff and we  are

012a destination district for both students   families and teachers so when i say i will work on  something i mean it thank you thank you miss clay i'm carrie clay and i am so excited to  be here in person for this event tonight   i would like to thank the league of women voters  in the district for making this forum possible   i'm a 37-year resident of the district i'm a  proud lindbergh flyer myself i attended long   elementary school sperry middle school  and graduated from lindbergh high school   in my professional life i was a cpa and worked  in public accounting in the audit practice at   pwc i currently love being a stay-at-home  mom to my 16 year old and 10 year old boys   my husband and i decided to move to limburg  for one reason and that was

013for the schools   i wanted my kids to be lindbergh flyers just like  me i was very involved as a parent in the schools   i was on a ptg board uh lead ptg projects uh was  a scout leader a parent volunteer a sports coach   team manager for sports um and about three  years ago my involvement in the district began   to look a little bit different when my  youngest son was diagnosed with dyslexia   we were not able to get the support that he  needed at lindbergh schools so my husband and   i made the difficult decision to move him to  a school that was equipped to handle his needs   after that we looked at my older son's  education and realized that he was   experiencing gaps too and we also made  another difficult decision to move him   outside the

014district as well those are the  key factors driving my reason for running   i am concerned about the direction that the  district that i love so much is headed and my   primary goal if elected to the board will be to  return academic excellence okay thank you ms voss   hello thanks to everybody for coming  out tonight my name is julia voss   i moved to the district eight years ago from south  city with my husband we have three children in the   district i have two at sappington and one at  truman and we moved here because my husband   is a lindbergh grad and he wanted his children  to have the the great education that he had   so we moved here and we started it long and then  moved over into the these other schools when the   redistricting happened i'm

015running because i think  that the school sets the tone for the community   and i want our community to be one that  values support for all levels of learning   support for teachers and a  respectful dialogue among its members   and i think there's a lot of ways that lindbergh  is doing really well in all three of these values   and we're going to talk about some areas  tonight with all the questions i'm sure   where there's room for improvement because  there's always room for improvement i think   that my background makes me especially well suited  to help move those improvements forward i am an   attorney i have been um with greenspun  or hamburg gale for about 20 years now   i started as an anti-trust litigator which is just  as boring as it sounds and the firm after about i   think

016seven maybe 10 years asked me to take a  leadership role over seeing a department that   oversees the electronic evidence the  handling of electronic evidence in lawsuits   so i run a department that has lawyers and  technical people in it and in that role   i am responsible for budgeting hr issues  strategic plans attorney education and i   still practice as an attorney um every once  in a while in between all those other things   i'm trained to consider all sides of every issue  every time and listen to what people are saying   and i think that that will help me make good  decisions if i'm elected to the board on april   5th okay thank you very much and so we're going  to start with the questions now and we're going to   start with you ms miller on the first question

017and  there were a number of people who talked about um educational excellence and their concerns  about that so let's start with this question   how should educational excellence achievement  and gaps be defined is it math scores   a couple of people tonight have talked about  their concerns about stem education and gaps   there but how do you measure these things all  right thank you um we've had a lot of discussions   recently about map in our district and a lot of  changes that we have made so that we are making   sure we're teaching priority standards that  are aligned with missouri learning standards   and developing proficiency sales so we can  measure that progress that each student is making   we are also using a nationally norm test  called nwea to ensure that each student   is making growth not only once a

018year that  test is given three times a year to give that   and we also use fastbridge to ensure that our  younger elementary students are moving out of that   at risk category and into proficiency and  higher thank you okay thank you miss clay we uh in order to evaluate our academic excellence  uh we need to look at a lot of things one of those   things being the map testing map testing is the  only test that is standardized across the state   so it is really our only true measure of how we  are comparing to other schools in the state of   missouri we also need to use the internal tests  that jen mentioned nwea fastbridge and other   assessments that our teachers give we need to look  at our act sat scores and another concept that i   would like

019to pursue if elected to the board  is taking a look at students like five years   out after graduation and seeing where they're at i  think that would be a really interesting indicator   um to see you know how our students are really  performing in the real world okay thank you ms   voss i think all the tests that they have talked  about obviously are ways to measure people but   or measure how the students are succeeding i think  that there are other ways to look at it too though   just the offerings of the district how many  advanced courses are offered how many courses   are offered for students who don't want to go to  college because we need to make sure that every   student can succeed with whatever path they want  and if they don't want to go to

020college we have to   prepare them for what's next after that so i think  we need to make sure we're looking at everybody   who's on every end of of the spectrum i also think  we should look at things like extracurriculars   one of the strongest things this district has  going for it is its music programs they're   amazing they are truly amazing the strings program  is great and i've heard the band is great too but   i'm not in that so i can't speak to it personally  these are things that teach children cooperation   and dedication and not giving up when something  is hard because the violin is hard so i think that   we need to also look at all the offerings  the district has thank you mr randleman   thank you i think um the math tests are the only 

021ones that the only test that gives an objective   view on where we are we're supposed to teach the  children according to the missouri state standard   i realize it's not ideal and i realize that we  as a district don't want to test the children   uh prepare the children for the test but i  still expect as mentioned a proficiency level   and i i also think the other tests that were  mentioned the fast track fast bridge sorry and um   the nwea are good teacher benchmarks to see  where we're at from the goal we we placed   in on the year thank you okay thank you very much  miss clay we're going to start with you this time   with the question and we're staying on the same  topic because people had a lot of questions about   the standings of limburg

022and here's one that  appeared about five or six times that i saw   uh here's the statement and i cannot attest to  the truthfulness of the statement so i'm going   to read you what i read lindbergh has fallen in  the rankings from number one in 2015 to number   76 today uh i saw different numbers these are  the numbers i saw the most okay question is why   and we're going to start with you miss clay i think a big reason for our academic decline  is our literacy program our literacy rates in   our district are not good depending on the grade  level that you look at we're somewhere between   35 to 40 percent of our students struggling  to read and obviously if you're struggling   to read that is really going to affect how  you perform in all of

023your other classes   i also believe we need to bring a focus back  to our foundational academic skills like   grammar handwriting spelling  vocabulary also we need to bring   math intervention back into our schools that was  removed and we no longer have additional support   for elementary students that are struggling  in math i believe we need to make sure we have   classes in place to challenge our students that  need an extra challenge and thank you ms voss   i think we need to start with whether that 76  is really a true number and i do not believe   that it is and desi does not believe that it  is desi said when they released those scores   that it would be a gross misuse of the  data to compare this to prior years   and one if it had a whole list

024of factors that you  know many schools may have faced what lindbergh   faced was 20 of the kids didn't take the test when  twenty percent of your student body isn't included   in the number it's invalid so we that number is  not a true ranking it's not where lindbergh stands   um but i do think that there are a  lot of improvements to be made to   improve academics and i agree with the literacy  program being one of them i have three children   two of them needed reading intervention that  shouldn't happen so we need to fix the elementary   literacy program to be more structured  to have more phonics to be more cohesive   and if we can do that since a lot of  things stem from your ability to read   then everything should from there move  forward okay thank you

025mr randleman   thank you um and sorry i was kind of focused on  something else do you mind repeating the question   again um it is lindbergh has fallen in the  rankings uh from number one in 2015 to number 76   um how come okay so for i i will say that i don't  believe it's just the school's fault there's no   question that uh the pandemic played into this as  well and there are a lot of factors i believe it's   a combination of uh in in but if we look at 2019  for example we were i believe 34th place so we   were already dropping even before the pandemic it  has to do with removing the framework of support   for the children uh the math interventions uh and  and more recently the challenge classes um and   you know i

026think the the literacy programs and  and and math programs need to be improved so   okay thank you ms miller you have the last word on  this one so when we look at our map scores we also   need to look at what has changed over the past  few years we no longer teach through the tests   as david mentioned earlier and i think kerry  did too we no longer receive pre-released test   questions prior to administering the test we are  undoing a lot of things that truly were not good   for students interventions were specif were given  to students who are you know within five points   of moving into the proficient category instead of  students who are further away from that category   and needed the intervention more the district is  trying very hard to make sure that all students  

027are meeting our priority standards and moving  through the grades as they move through i'm sorry   as they move through the grades that they  are moving higher along into proficiency so   we have recently added some phonics and phonemic  awareness in our elementary schools and yes we   need to move towards more of that structured  literacy which we are working towards and   hope to implement in a year and again in math  interventions we need to make sure we are doing   that as well thank you okay thank you this vos  you're first this time staying on the same topic i had four questions in that big pile  that said you know if we looked at   other districts who were highly ranked i  and what happened during the coven period   they didn't fall down nearly as much as  lindbergh did

028why do you think that's so   if you think it's true and what are  we doing now to address that gap i think that it's true for some districts and  not for others if you look at the data some   other districts did fall and others didn't but  one thing about that i mentioned earlier that 20   that didn't take the test there was  a lot of mixed messaging from desi   about whether we were going to have to take the  test and so the message out to the families was   that we don't think you're going to have to come  to take this test then right at the minute last   minute oh wait yes you are no you aren't yes you  are and lindbergh didn't go out and really push it   for people to come in and so there

029actually was a  fear that in when when school started again in the   fall that the district would have to retake the  test because there weren't enough high enough uh i   think it's 80 or 85 percent has to take it um for  desi to be happy but it turned out that desi met   the goal overall for the state so lindbergh didn't  have to and so the districts that were better at   not better but more diligent about getting their  kids in to make them take the test they did better   and we could have been more diligent about it  but at the same time it's a pandemic and people   are scared to come in so i really thank you  for the district for doing that okay mr random   one you're going to be first this time we're  going

030to change topics uh but i had a number of   questions about i'll need to answer that question  oh i'm sorry ms voss was the first i'm sorry for me is it my turn to answer then oh  yes yes it is all right so yes it is see   i told you i told you this is what  you get by inviting an old lady   mr randleman thank you all right um well i  think in this last year we've introduced a   lot of changes into the school uh we've added uh  social social emotional uh learning we we've added   a lot of pilots uh there's been a lot of changes  and i think that's been a contributing factor   to our more dramatic drop in the rankings  compared to other school districts okay thank   you very much and i was

031so sad on you answering  this one first so you're first this time oh you   haven't gosh i really am screwing up ms miller  i'm ready about the next question yes ms miller okay so last school year we had 30  percent of our students in our virtual   programming in addition to that we also offered  a partial in-person partial virtual programming   with what many districts around us were not able  to do so i do think that plays a role in our our   state scores and our map scores um you know we  had virtual kids come into our school and take   this test they came to buildings that were not  their original school building it was the first   time they had been in a school building in over a  year and they took the test in a shorter

032amount of   time than what we have previously allotted for map  testing so i do think that plays a role into the   ability of children to perform well  on a test thank you okay thank you   miss clay um i i don't think we can discount  last year's map scores because only because 22   percent of our students did not take the test  um those students most likely were in in the   range you know high performers students that were  struggling so i think we need to consider them and as far as the decline goes i think things  are just really starting to catch up with us   you know we have not been on the right track for a  while and i think it's starting to to show in our   numbers so i think we've just been snowballing and 

033we were on the decline before the pandemic hit and   the pandemic exacerbated it and um now we're at  the position where we're at okay thank you very   much now mr randleman um a number of people  had concerns about special education programs   and i'm going to try to capture those in two  questions the first question is what specific   changes do you think should be made to the special  school district here to improve their performance well i've i've received some feedback from  uh parents that are in the dis in the ssd and   um i've heard concerns about lindbergh taking over   lindbergh schools taking over the kind of the  ssd program to be honest it's still an area i'd   like to research and get more feedback so you  know i don't want to draw conclusions before   i've researched

034it more okay ms miller um yes  so i do think it is important that we develop   procedures in conjunction with ssd that can  be followed from building to buildings so that   what's happening in one building is happening  in another building and those same programs   are being offered even to lindbergh students that  are being offered in kirkwood or other districts   we need to make sure like we have evidence-based  practices that our ssd teachers are being able   to go to trainings and professional learning  and you know best practices and that those   are they're given the time to implement those  within our buildings thank you thank you ms clay um i believe that the district plays a key  role in this program and the ssd program   and we need our district to be advocates  for the students receiving

035ssd services we   need to make sure our students are receiving  the best possible ssd services for example   students in limburg are not able to get wilson  tutoring which is is a literacy program that's   available but meanwhile students in nextdoor  kirkwood are able to get that through ssd   so we need to be better advocates for our students  um in that regard uh as jen mentioned we need to   make sure we need to have a set program  that's followed for ssd for evaluations   and things that's the same across all schools  it's easier to get ssd services in some schools   than other schools it shouldn't be that way  um and uh i think i'll stop there okay ms voss   it's my understanding and i i also think you know  i haven't had to use these services myself so

036i   i'm going from what i've talked to people on  and it's my understanding from talking to people   that it's not lindbergh teachers who are are  the problem they're doing everything they can   to help these kids get help and that it's really  the special school district is where people feel   that that the communication breaks down  and i don't want to blame special school   district because i haven't talked specifically  with them yet if i was a board member i would   but i think that maybe there needs to be  a little more accountability on their end   because bloomberg's the one who's accountable for  these kids on all sorts of testing and i don't   know exactly where special school district comes  in and gets any kind of accountability for what's   happening and so i think that's what i would

037like  to explore a little bit more okay we're going to   start with you this time ms miller and  staying on the subject of special education   what is one group of students who require special  education that you're most concerned about like   is there one group of students that needs an  initiative right away and what would that be   in other words have you identified have you  thought about one group that you have a lot   of students who are experiencing that  challenge and what would you do about it   so obviously i think all of our students  should be getting the services they need and   have access to those programs but in regards to  this specific question that yes our reading and   writing students who have reading and writing  disabilities diagnosed within our district   really you know i am

038concerned it's touched  my family and it's hard to make sure that   your child is getting the best program and  the services they're supposed to be getting   and i have a background in special education  yet it's still sometimes an adversarial   conversation or an adversarial iep meeting and  that's not fair to our students it's not fair   to our families and it's something i think  needs to be worked on thank you okay ms clay as uh jen mentioned we of course want to make  sure all of our students are getting the services   and supports that they need um but students with  dyslexia and are very close to my heart because   i have a child with dyslexia i have advocated  in this district for years to get the support   i have come and spoke at board meetings and the 

039advocacy of parents in this district has fallen on   deaf ears it's really sad that these kids are not  able to get the support they need it's the reason   why we had to leave the district and we need  to do better for these students and we can   ms voss i would agree that if we have children  who can't read they're not going to be able to   succeed in school and so if we can't get special  school district services for them then maybe there   are other things lindbergh can do like getting  more reading specialists to come in and help at   least maybe in the interim because emerging from  the pandemic is going to be so hard there's going   to be learning loss and so if i were elected to  the board i think that would be one

040thing i would   push for if we have if we can make it work with  the budget is getting more reading specialists   at every school so that kids who are on  the borderline and maybe can't quite get   an uh special school district services  then lindbergh can provide it for them   and that i think that would go a long  way to helping some of these problems too   thank you mr randleman thank you obviously i'm  concerned and for all children and i want to see make sure we're taking care of everyone but i  will say that i've seen for several years now   uh parents come up and talk about dyslexia as a  as a concern board meeting after board meeting   and i know that in lindbergh about 30  over 30 percent um are have uh issues   in that

041field whereas in the population it's it's  one out of uh um it's one-fifth so um yeah that   is a concern for me too i i agree with what carrie  said thank you okay thank you very much miss clay   you're gonna be first this time i'm gonna switch  topics here i had a lot of questions about uh   concerns about what was going on at the elementary  level that affected middle school levels so here's   the question i tried to put together do you  believe that flaws in the elementary curriculum   have caused deficits in our middle schoolers  if so what are they and what should we pursue yes i do believe that what is going on in our  elementary schools is affecting the performance   of our middle schoolers they are not entering  middle school prepared i had a

042conversation when   i was out canvassing with a mom who said her sixth  grader just had to write her first paragraph all   by herself and the mom said to the teacher that's  great that she's doing it but i don't think she   will get the capitalization or punctuation  right so we need to really focus on   those basics in elementary school reading writing  math vocabulary grammar spelling all of that need   we need to have solid foundation and we also need  to make sure that we have a good connect between   the teachers in elementary and the teachers in  middle school so that the teachers in elementary   are ensuring that the kids are ready to meet the  expectations of middle school when they get there   thank you ms voss i'll agree that that vertical  um meeting with between the teachers

043hadn't   been happening as much and that would be an  excellent way to make sure that when the kids   go into sixth grade that they have gotten the  the skills that the teachers want them to have   um i think with the middle school right now  there's a really good opportunity with the uh with   the way they redid it there's a huge block time  now they have and they could really use that time   for more tutoring for individualized tutoring  and for maybe some more push and help   there because they have they have this huge amount  of time for flex time now on on the longer days   and i think better use of that time i know  it's the first year that they've done it and so   maybe it's not quite as structured as it  should have been

044it could be and i think   that there's a real opportunity for helping the  students using that time thank you mr randleman   yeah it's interesting that um us parents who have  been here in the district for a while and have   teacher students that went through elementary  that say 10 years ago can tell the difference   our children for example really did well and now  the the first ones and now the the more recent   ones are having problems with uh grammar reading  and writing um we i also feel that the again the   math intervention which was really important and  um yeah i guess that's that's really about it okay   miss miller so i think this question is kind of  getting towards asking about our reading and our   writing instructional resources at the elementary  level and our district has

045said like we need to do   a better job here and that is why we are you know  we implement integrity um at the elementary level   and we move towards more phonics instruction and  we absolutely need to finish our literacy pilots   um we need to make sure we're using fidelity to  find those to find which one will work the best   and we need to move that program move to a program  that is better aligned and focuses on phonics   phonemic awareness vocabulary building and grammar  and i do believe too we need to make sure that our   fifth and sixth grade teachers are able to meet  and do that vertical teaming so that our incoming   fifth graders are prepared and that the six the  our fifth grade teachers know what our sixth   grade teachers are looking for when

046our fifth  graders walk into that building thank you okay   thank you very much ms voss we're going to start  with you and we are entering into the territory   of understanding and talking about two things   uh diversity equity and inclusion and  something called critical race theory   so i've put together a number of questions that  address those topics let's start with the first   one and ms vos you're going to be first do you  believe that the concepts of diversity equity and   inclusion should be incorporated into the  curriculum across the board why or why not i think they should it's really important to  make sure that every student feels that they   belong here but i think that what you have to do  first is level set on what you mean by diversity   equity and inclusion and i'll probably

047gonna head  to the next question but critical race theory two   those phrases have taken on a meaning that i don't  think that they actually initially started as   you know critical race theory started  as a graduate level political viewpoint   and it has seeped its way down into our vernacular  and i don't think it means the same thing to me   when i say yes i believe this i just mean every  student should walk into the room and feel like   they belong there and that the teacher and their  friends are going to feel that that that they have   value and that their story has value and it could  be you know it doesn't have to be a minority it   could be you know one kid who's had a different  life experience thank you and then let me just  

048clarify we're going to do um diversity equity and  inclusion first and then we're going to move into   critical race series so everybody's going to have  time to talk about all of this fair enough so uh   mr randleman yeah so i joined the uh di committee  because um i i wanted i had concerns about what   was happening as an immigrant here on someone who  was accepted in the district i was very concerned   when i saw the district sending teachers to  the eec the educational equity consultants   where racism was redefined and and and  pitted as oppressors versus oppressed   and here's the bottom line the way i feel it's  it's very important that we accept and everyone uh   but you also have to have a framework that brings  us together and that is the american uh framework   right

049that is where we live that where we all  have the same rights and if we don't have that   it's gonna be very hard for us to have that  diversity within it thank you okay ms miller um   so a couple things the state of missouri does  require the district to have an equity plan   um so that's one reason why we have it but  yes i want every student to come to school   feel like they belong and feel like they are  included we want them to come to school and learn   in a place where they know they are valued where  they feel heard and i also would like to address   you know some of the training our teachers have  done after we had two cohorts go through that   training the district kind of reevaluated and said  this

050is not the direction we want our district   going in regards to this and we need to look at  other resources and so we made that shift thank   you okay thank you miss clay i absolutely think  that we must make sure all students feel like they   belong at lindbergh schools no matter where they  come from or what their background or situation is i am very concerned about our current uh dei  program when i look at our map testing results   i noticed that for math only 11 percent of  our black students are proficient and only 35   of them are proficient in ela and i find that  very concerning i think we need to make sure   that our efforts are data driven and that we  are really with our programs in that area we   are really achieving the

051results that we're trying  to achieve which is to make everyone feel belong   like they belong and to make sure that everyone  is successful in academics okay thank you very   much we're going to start with you this time  mr randleman and there was a pattern in the   questions that i saw and and the pattern was this  a number of people were saying that they believed   that the inclusion of diversity equity and  inclusion subjects in the curriculum took away   from what we consider to be traditional academic  subjects and so i wanted to sort of get at this   cause and effect because it was in so many of  your questions and so here's the question i came   up with do discussions of diversity equity and  inclusion conducted by educational professionals   having been discussed with the district  about what

052the children need harm children   and i guess when i say harm children i'm looking  at two things that were in your questions   one of them was taking away from  the traditional academic subjects   the other one was a number of you talked about  not wanting children to think as if they were   you use the language oppressors divisive etc  etc so my question is if they're conducted   by educational professionals in a way that the  district has discussed do they harm children   if you believe they do cite evidence of that and  it could be emotional harm it could be traditional   academic kinds of things etc is that fair summary  you get to start with that one mr randleman   thank you well this one's been close to my  heart um because you know again as immigrants   uh we noticed

053and our children reported to us  that they were being taught through a narrative   history through a narrative so for example they  learned that the constitution was mainly there   to perpetuate white people and oppress minorities  and uh that that's that's not the case that that's   not how it was but what it started doing is it  was starting to reflect on the children it's   they started looking at themselves and saying  well wait a minute um you know i'm how does that   affect me and and they had to choose well i you  know i'm an immigrant but am i do i fall in that   category of an oppressor and and the children had  a lot of discussions on this and i think that's   the problem i want to bring objective history i  want to bring it factually i

054want the children's   freedom of conscience to be what determines uh how  they view that history and not through narrative   okay uh ms miller and again you know part of the  question was about you know sight evidence of that   so ms miller so i i don't think that we should  ever take away from our academics and that   standard that we want our students to reach you  know if we're teaching you know equity diversity   inclusion those things should be embedded  throughout our day they should kind of be natural   parts of the discussion and obviously within the  classroom you're going to have students you know   write a paper do a project that kind of brings up  issues that maybe aren't in the curriculum aren't   in the teacher's lesson plan but are going to  have to be addressed and

055we have to give room   to our professionals to do the job that they're  trained to do thank you okay thank you miss clay um you know i really hope our current board  has examined all of the data surrounding   the dei programs that they're they're using  all of our decisions really need to be data   driven we need to make sure that they're really  accomplishing what we're setting out to accomplish   i think as i said before making sure all  students are included and feel welcome at   school is extremely important i think modeling  behaviors is a great way to do that i think we   also need to work directly with families who  have a child that may be struggling in that area   to identify issues and work towards solutions  that make those children who are not feeling   included

056feel more included okay thank you ms voss  i'll answer it in parts first i don't think it's   taking away from academics for two reasons one  because most of the the character lessons that   they have are done during a like a class meeting  time or in a very short amount of time that's   that's not really designated already for strict um  academic speaking anyway you know part of being an   a teacher is bonding with your students and having  these meetings so they're embedded into that   for another reason if you look at the the books  that the kids read i'm going to use sixth grade   as an example they end up with a wide variety of  books that they get to choose from and then they   have book club and they're all sorts of different  protagonists and so

057the classroom discussion is   from a whole bunch of different protagonists point  of view and that is one way to just bring it in   and have critical thinking and analytical thinking  about these different experiences and that's   inclusion and equity and diversity it's it's  critical thinking about that um about not wanting   him to think it's divisive i think we should teach  our children history and it's not always pretty   okay thank you very much ms miller  you're gonna be first this time and   there were a lot of questions about  quote unquote critical race theory and my question putting all of them together is do  you believe that it is included in the curriculum   at lindbergh if so where and to what effect so  we'll start with you ms miller i do not believe   that critical race theory is

058in our curriculum  our curriculum aligns with the missouri learning   standards um okay it's pretty short but i  don't think it is thanks got it miss clay um i know the district's stance is that critical  race theory is not taught in our schools   um but as uh the board does  not approve uh very detailed   curriculums that have to be followed by  our teachers and the teachers are given   a lot of leeway in the classrooms i can't say  with certainty if it is or is not included   unfortunately i can't be in every classroom  uh every day so i'm not sure if it's in there   ms voss it's not in there because we don't  have graduate student legal scholars in our   classrooms we have kids who are learning history  and critical race theory is a very defined term  

059or concept at that high level when you're talking  about history sometimes it's not pretty and you   have to have some hard discussions with the  kids they need to understand what happened   and they can evaluate what may be what the  what the effect on what happened is today   that doesn't mean that teachers are  trying to make white children feel bad   because they're not they are trying to teach  history and let our children learn what happened   and learn from it and learn to be better for it so  i don't think it's taught in the schools because   it's just not what people think it is when they  hear the term okay mr randleman thank you well   critical race theory isn't a curriculum and it  isn't something that uh is a subject matter it's   a lens it's a way

060to interpret things and um you  know if i tell a story and i tell it through a   very specific perspective that story is going to  take on a completely different meaning and that's   what's happening in our school district and the  contempt for our country uh is is in my opinion   coming from this from from this perspective  if you look about if you look at the children   who don't want to stand for the flag anymore  and i i respect that that's their right but   we should be proud of our of our nation we should  look at the hear the history and every single   fact but uh it needs to be objective and allow  the narrative and to be narrative free so that   the students can decide that's the critical  thinking that we should all have thank

061you   okay we're going to start with ms clay this time a related question exactly what would  be your role on the school board   engaging in a quote-unquote  inappropriate material or book complaint um i i know our district is currently working on  revising its library policies and unfortunately   we don't quite know what those are but you know  right now and as i believe probably will be the   case going forward the board will be there to  if books are appealed they will be there to vote   and decide whether or not they will remain in the  library with or without restrictions okay ms voss the the role of the board  member is to follow the policies   and if the the policies are there's a committee  to to hear it and if the committee could i the   committee gives

062back a recommendation  the parent can either take it or not   and if they appeal it that's when the board gets  involved and so at that point i'd read the book   and see if i thought it violated any policies and  if it doesn't violate any policies it stays in   okay mr randleman thank you well i would hope to  see books that are first of all have educational   value but even if there are books that have  concerns i think this is easy to solve we   need to properly catalog these books and we  need to allow for parents to categorically   opt out from having their children access it  either through the library or at checkout in   order to do that we have we have to have a you  know a proper placing of these books and right   now

063they're randomly placed in different areas and  there's no parental boundaries of place at all so   as a as a board member if elected i would hope  to have those boundaries in place and that way   parents that do want their children to have access  to certain books can do so and and those parents   who have concerns can have the confidence  that their children will be protected from it   ms miller yes so as a board member we need to  ensure that our policies are being followed and as   carrie mentioned you know those policies have been  discussed for months in our teaching and learning   board advisory with committee are i'm sorry with  community members and we had a first reading of   those policies at our february board meeting last  month our parents have the right to challenge   books

064and a committee should be formed to review  those concerns and challenges and if appeal then   the board would vote on to remove or not remove  or keep the book with restriction i you know our   parents have the ability to have their children  to limit access and opt out for their children   and i believe that's important but i think it's  also important to ensure that other children do   have access to the book if their parents want  that thank you okay we're going to start with   you this time on ms voss or excuse me miss clay  you answered you were first last time ms voss okay   a related question and lots of you you gave me  some homework to do last week i needed to learn   about a living curriculum because so many  of you talked about

065it and it seemed to be   talked about in two different ways one of them  was a constantly changing kind of curriculum   that was one way it was used the other way  was to have a set of sort of required texts in   english classes were the ones where  people's examples came through the most   and then there were other texts that were included  uh that people were concerned about um there that   they included certain kinds of topics that they  found to be problematic and in some ways offensive   like rape like child abuse like  violence um so the question is um   what do you think a living curriculum is because  we want folks to know that you know and secondly   what action do you think it should be taken if  you think some action should be taken about

066it   so i think a living curriculum is one that has  guidelines that are set to the missouri standards   but that gives the teachers room to choose  a different particular material if that   need arises in their class in their professional  judgment and i think we need to give our teachers   the room to make that professional judgment i  think parents have the ability to talk to their   children and see what they're learning or call  the teacher and say what's my what's on my kids   plate today or you know this week and if there  is something that the parent doesn't like they   can talk to the teacher about it and i'm sure that  the teachers will work with them to come up with   another option but the teachers need to be given  the room to do the job

067that we've hired them to do   mr randleman thank you the problem with the  living curriculum is that it opens the door   not always good or bad but it opens the door  to move away from the board-approved curriculum   and even if it meets missouri state standards i  see it as a lack of transparency with the parents   the parents send their children based on what the  curriculum is what they know to be the curriculum   it's it's published on lindbergh's website and  in practice they can't always track and know   what's being taught and that catches parents  off guard and i would say that in my opinion   delivering curriculum needs to go away thank you  ms miller so when the district refers to living   curriculum they're talking about high school  classes that are added in between curriculum   cycles and

068this is done when you know their  student interest in certain paths and certain   classes like we have a drone class now um and so  the board does approve those when they approve   the high school course catalog and syllabus are  developed to be given to families and the student in the future we can absolutely make amendments  to our curriculum where we're not voting on an   entire english curriculum per se but we are this  new class is being added so we can vote on this   um but let's be clear curriculum is different  than instructional resources when we're talking   about books in a classroom or worksheets  or assignments and lesson plans those are   instructional resources and those  by board policy are chosen by   instructional professionals whether it be a  teacher or a library media specialist or whatnot   so

069i think it's important to know that  when a novel is different than one year   to the next it's because it's an instructional  resource and not curriculum thank you ms clay i think the issue here is let's make sure that  all the curriculums are approved by the school   board um and the board really needs to dig in  to them and see what's in there that's a board   member's duty in my opinion and i don't think  we've been doing the board our current board   has been doing that enough once the  board establishes the curriculum   and uh you know the books like jen said have  been set the teachers can teach the curriculum   through whatever vehicle they want to teach it  through but they need to follow the curriculum   we also need to make sure the  curriculum is

070very transparent   parents should know exactly what it is we cannot  rely on asking our kids what they're learning   in school i have an elementary school kid he  usually doesn't know he comes home and says he   has no idea you know you guys know how it is they  don't know and then i have a teenager and they   don't want to talk to you about it so we cannot  rely on our kids to tell us what's going on okay mr randleman you get to be first  this time um the difference between   curriculum and teaching approaches particular  materials in class lesson plans etc etc   is something that was asked a lot about in some  ways i got the sense sometimes folks don't quite   understand the difference but to represent your  questions what role should the school board have  

071in overseeing particular lesson plans book  or article choices with teachers should   the school board be telling teachers  how to carry out their lesson plans thank you well i think if it's a well-structured  curriculum there will be a good foundation of the   lesson plan to build off of obviously there's  a flexibility and some freedom for the teachers   to bring in uh additional examples or things  that will help contribute to that lesson plan   within the class so you know if it's uh in biology  bringing in samples or or additional material to   show things i think that's teachers obviously  need that flexibility but again a well-structured   structured curriculum uh will give also  a good lesson plan that the teacher can   build a foundation from thank you ms  miller so no i do not think the board   should be

072telling teachers how to teach as  i already mentioned teachers are trained   experts in education and they should be developing  their lesson plans and choosing their resources you know they're professionals they  need to be able to do their job and   board members are not all educational experts   our board needs to be able to communicate what our  community values and provide that oversight that   missouri learning standards are being met within  our curriculums and that teachers are using their   lessons and resources to meet those standards  and curriculums thank you thank you ms clay   um i i think this really depends on the curriculum  that is being used for example the literacy   curriculums that curriculum that hopefully our  district implements is going to be very structured   and it's going to be very important that it's  taught with fidelity and

073it's it may not allow   for as much much flexibility as teachers have been  used to in the past and you know if that's what's   best for our students then that's what we need  to do i think teachers having autonomy is very   important i don't think we should tell them what  their lesson plans need to be or review them or   anything like that but yeah in some cases it is  going to be very structured and uh you know we   need to make sure if that's the way the program  is laid out that it it's followed thank you ms   voss i think the board should set the goals and  the values for what the what the materials will   be but at the end of the day you have a teacher  and then you have the department heads

074and then   you have a principal and then you have everybody  in central office who are all educational   professionals and any issue in a particular  lesson should work its way up through that chain   so that the people who are trained in education  can figure out what the best course forward is if   it makes it to the board then yes we get involved  and and figure it out but i think that there's a   structure in place for lesson plans to be handled  that doesn't involve the board in most cases   okay thank you we're going to start with you  this time ms miller and while we're talking   about teachers there were eight questions that  began with the premise that teacher morale is low if that's true what is the one step you would  take one initiative you would

075take to improve   that morale from the perspective  of a board member what would you do   um i to my knowledge our teaching staff does not  have low morale we have worked on this diligently   for the past four years our  negotiation cycles with our teachers   are incredibly short in comparison  to what they used to be prior to 2018   one year was one meeting and they were finished  and then they had a 99 ratification of the   agreement this year they just had a ratification  agreement at 98 and i believe it was a three-year   salary and language agreement that is fabulous for  our district and just shows that our teachers and   our administration and our board are working  well together thank you thank you miss clay um i'm i'm going to agree with jen in saying that  our

076teacher retention rates in our district are   very high i mean we only had about a five percent  turnover last year and hopefully that is an   indicator that teacher morale is high but i can  tell you one thing that i would do to improve it   if it is in fact low is to take some of the things  that teachers are responsible for off their plate   they have to wear so many different hats they  have to be teacher they have to be psychologists   they have to be behavioral expert they have  to deal with parents way too many things we   need to remove some of that from the teachers so  they can focus on teaching okay thank you ms voss   if i thought teacher morale was low i would call  somebody and ask them is teacher morale low

077let's   talk to the teachers let's hear what they have to  say because in lindbergh the teacher morale morale   isn't low to my knowledge it is in other parts of  the country it's it's as low as it's ever been in   other parts of the country but in limburg they're  happy and i think it's because the board listens   the administration listens and you need to be  listening to to understand if there's a problem to   begin with and i don't think there is okay thank  you mr randleman thank you um i agree with my   fellow candidates here and board member um i will  take the opportunity though to say uh thank you to   our teachers and that i really appreciate all the  hard work that you do and and getting us through   this covet cycle and going back

078to in person  learning so quick and dealing with that so i   just want to show that appreciation thank you okay  we're going to start with you this time miss clay   do you believe that issues of quote unquote  this is the language of your questions   gender fluidity should be introduced to  students in school if so at what level uh i think lindbergh has done a very good  job of trying to make all students feel   included we obviously can still continue to work  on that so no matter what a student's gender   is or i identity is uh we need to work and  make sure that those students uh feel included   and there may be times when those conversations do  come up in a classroom and uh you know i think we   just need to be open and

079and address those issues  but should that be included in our curriculum   you know i don't i don't think  so okay thank you ms voss the cdc   has reported that of lgbtq students 23 of them  have tried to commit suicide in the past year   and that's an astounding statistic and i think  we should all pay attention to that because it's   heartbreaking and for these students to feel that  that is the only option they have i think we can   do them some good by saying we see you and we  know you're here and you know we welcome you   and we can do that a lot of ways we can do that  by having books available we can have that um   you know books books in the library that represent  those views we can have teachers who fall

080into   these categories so that they see that that  you can be a productive member of society   look it doesn't have to end this way and i do  believe that it belongs in a health classroom   to a certain extent because that is where it  would come up and if it comes up it will come up   in classroom discussions with books and things  too and i think it's appropriate to discuss it   thank you mr randleman thank you um there  are many reasons why children go through   these different identity questions and i  don't think the school has the capability of   always knowing what's going through a child's  mind i would hope that the identity issue is   something between the child and their parents  as far as having an acceptable place for all   of course i i want that

081that's what the school is  all about but i don't think the the school should   delve into a child's identity that is sacred i  think professionals professional psychologists and   the parents should be the ones that that deal with  this thank you okay thank you ms miller so i would   like to echo what some of our candidates said  about we need to make sure we include all of our   students and whatnot um you know we need to make  sure that our students see themselves reflected   in the books that are available to be read as well  as other students being able to read about things   you know viewpoints they're unaware of they need  to see others experiences as well and so when it   comes up i do think it needs to be addressed you  know this is everyday

082live experience for some   of our students and we need to honor each of our  students thank you okay thank you tough questions   huh everybody ready to take a deep breath a little  bit different kind of question three people said   different start times for different schools is  a real pain in the neck okay trying to get my   elementary school students there by nine then i  try to go to i try to go to the high school at a   different time and i almost get run over um could  we work this out in some different kind of way   what are your thoughts on that so we're  going to start with you this time ms vos   there is a committee that is looking at that and i  know they just changed the times and the one thing   that

083i personally don't like i don't like how the  middle school has to go to the high school to pick   them up because then the kids end up riding the  bus for like i don't know 45 minutes to get a   10-minute ride home so i think there's definitely  more room to improve on this and see what other   options there are out there uh the committee  will look at all of this and hopefully make some   good recommendations after talking to some other  districts and experts who've looked at this issue   okay thank you mr randleman yeah i'm kind of  on a similar opinion um you know it really   comes down to the data do different hours have  an effect on how how well someone is focused on   the teaching that day um you know i'd rather just  look

084at the data but as a parent who has kids both   in high school and elementary i mean we manage  it's okay okay mrs miller um i agree man it does   kind of suck in the morning when you're trying to  get kids to different schools at different levels   um i i think the biggest thing here is  you know we've been very careful about   the amount of money we spent on our busing the  state does not reimburse 100 percent of busing   it's a very minimal number of what they  reimburse in comparison to what they're   supposed to reimburse but we need to  make sure that you know transportation   and the money spent on transportation isn't  making us make instructional choices we need to   make sure our instructional choices drive what  our buses and transportation are doing so that  

085might mean we need to prioritize spending  a little bit more money on transportation   so that we can have three routes instead of  only two routes and that kids don't have to   sit on the bus for half an hour in a different  school's parking lot thank you okay ms clay   i agree with a lot of what ms miller  said the the transportation situation is   very much driven by the cost of transportation  so that's going to play a big factor   unfortunately it has to when we look into  um you know new schedules or offering uh   i mean it would be amazing if all the schools  could start at the same time that would be amazing   but you know really would be a budget question  to see if that would be in the budget and then   also to

086echo what david said um i think you know  there have been studies that show that teenagers   perform better a little bit later in the day and  i know the new high school start time was meant   to kind of align with that um but unfortunately  those high schoolers are still getting on the bus   at the same time as they were before so i don't  really know that that really solved the problem okay we're going to start with you this time  ms vos and here's the question do you support   teachers or other school staff carrying  arms on district property why or why not   i think that the officer the resource officer  should have should have arms that's his job he's   trained to use them i do not think teachers should  that is a disaster waiting to happen

087mr randleman   i'm in similar opinion if it's a trained  professional who's gone through uh a proper course   and and you know that's something to be considered  not not just any uh teacher carrying arms   okay ms miller uh i would agree with what  both candidates so far have said trained   professionals our school resource officer officer  yes i am okay with that i am not comfortable with   you know arming all of our teachers thank you  thank you ms clay i agree with what the other uh   candidates have said uh it should be our trained  professionals and our school resource officers   and i'd also just like to give a thank you to all  of those people for keeping our schools safe okay   so we're going to start with  you this time mr randleman a number of you online

088wrote questions about what  you thought was a disproportionate amount of money   spent on athletics sometimes you wrote about  field improvements and facility improvements   sometimes you talked about just  how much emphasis there's placed   the values that have been placed and three  of you wrote specifically about football   and saying you know it's way too much  emphasis and it's dangerous that was   the underlying premise of that question what do  you think about all of this in terms of do we   spend too much money and too much attention  on athletics should we pay a little bit more   attention to the safety of football why or why not  well i kind of wish we had more athletics i think   what brings a lot of us together in the school  are sports i mean it's kind of what brings us   um

089so i i'd like to see more of that um i'm not  aware exactly of how much budget is put into it   to be honest but uh um now i'm in favor of more  of those activities ms miller um i agree that   athletics is kind of that core especially at a  high school level that you know core school spirit   and i think in a one district i'm sorry a one  high school district we really see that kind of   trickle down through all levels of the building  so you know i am in favor of our athletics um   i don't think we spend that much too much money  on our athletics i know that with the high school   renovations more money has been spent on you  know fields and we did at a gym that actually   we weren't

090even planning to do the city i'm sorry  the county required us to build a storm shelter   so we turned it into usable space it was  part of the code so that's all thank you   okay miss clay those of you that know  me no i love athletics um i'm an avid   athlete myself my kids are very involved in  athletics um i believe that some of the root of   this question may be related to football maybe  the turf field that was included in the prop r i feel like a lot of community members didn't know  that was in there and then when they found out   that was included in prop r uh they were upset um  so i think you know that might have been a little   bit of a transparency issue i think we need to 

091be very transparent when it comes to what we're   spending our money on i know the district just  recently approved i think it was about 19 million   dollars of certificates of participation part of  that was for new tennis courts and i believe there   were also some other athletic field improvements  in that and that was outside of prop r that was   on top um so i think you know there may be some  concerns with the spending there we just need   to be transparent hey ms voss um i think with uh  with football with the question about it being too   dangerous i think parents can make the decision  as to whether they want their children to play   the game so i wouldn't change anything on that  in particular the month the money on sports needs   to be divided

092not exactly equally but at least  distributed somewhat fairly i happen to know that   the girls field hockey team was playing without  jerseys for a long time and it took a parent   saying hey i'm over here where are the jerseys  about 20 times before she finally got an answer   so i think it's just taking a you know when  when something is pointed out like that some   inequality like that um just taking it to the  right people and and making sure that we do   give the the money to all groups not just focus it  on one okay uh i believe we're going to start with   you this time ms miller this is a very interesting  question and it popped up twice so i gotta ask it   um two question writers said charles  lindbergh after whom this district

093is named history now tells us was a racist an anti-semite  and aligned himself against the united states as   effort to join in world war ii i'm reading  your language um should the district   reconsider its name because of this legacy  yes or no why or why not start with you   i don't think this is a question that is  strictly up to the board this is a community   decision and i believe input from the  community should be sought if this is   something our community wants to move  forward with or not thank you ms clay uh yeah i'm going to agree with jen on that we  would dig it input from the stakeholders to see   if that was really something that the majority  of the community was interested in doing before   we pursued that avenue ms voss i

094have noticed that  the district has taken his picture off of a lot of   things and so i think that's probably appropriate  um but i i agree with everybody else this is   really hard and there's a lot of issues in this  that you'd want to discuss you can't just say one   person would be like yes i want to get rid of this  no i don't i think we just really need to listen   to everybody and have have a committee because you  know there's got to be a committee for everything   have a committee formed and talk to the community  and really see if if this would be something that   could be done finally you mr randleman thank  you you know as a jewish person i'm saying this   that i think we have to be very careful about 

095taking a person's beliefs or our values and   applying it as something that cancels their  accomplishment when we look at lindbergh we're   looking at the accomplishments that were done  in flight and everything that he represented   not what his personal beliefs are were  and and the context of its time so   i would urge to be cautioned on the cautious on  that and you know we don't want to just erase   our history because of that you'll find fault  with everyone in history thank you okay thank   you now i'm going to ask one last question but  before i do there were a number of questions the   answers to which i think belong in your closing  statements so i'm going to give you a few examples   what makes you best qualified to occupy one of  these two seats what experience

096do you have that   you think the district on the board of education  really could use what quality do you have that   will make you an effective leader what drives you  what's your mission that you want to bring to this   job that makes you a candidate that i should vote  for in the election those kinds of questions and   your experience i think belong answered in that  final statement but here's the last question and   i i want to sort of end on an up note i hope  you know i didn't dodge any difficult topics   tonight and that is what is best what is the one  thing that you think is best about this district before we go to our closing statements and  now let's see do i start with miss clay   i think so uh this is

097a tough question because  obviously there's so many things to love about   lindbergh we have amazing amazing educators  um i'm really personally excited about all the   new programs at the high school the dual credit  program uh the ap capstone program and the caps   internship program i think we need to give our  high schoolers as many different opportunities   as possible and i also love the extracurriculars  and clubs and sports at our schools the music   program is one of the best in the country  so lots of things to love about lindbergh   okay thank you ms voss i really appreciate all  the opportunities for everybody at the high school   i think um that there's just so many different  ways a student can go with so many different   interests and i think the high school has done a  wonderful job

098of meeting everybody where they are   i think lindbergh's strongest asset though is the  community i think that we have traditionally been   drawn together and rallied around the the high  school and you know the whole schools not just   the high school but high schools where we all  end up we all end up flyers at the high school   and i i think that everybody feeling like they  belong and that lindbergh means something that   being a flyer means something it keeps bringing  alum back to games and it brings us all together   and all trying to work towards the same goal  of making sure that we have students who are   succeeding hey thank you mr randleman there are  so many things that i love about lindbergh um   you know from from the teachers i think that's the  number one

099you know for us it was the ell and just   uh how they took children who really didn't  know much and and now they're excellent you   know they're just doing great uh and i we  personally really love the strings program   um you know that's we've seen our our children  develop and and and just become amazing so   there's a lot of other stuff i mean i can't  even number them all but i am truly thankful   for for this district as a whole i know everyone  is striving towards that excellence in education   okay ms miller i feel like going  last i just need to be like yes   checked it out you could do that but um so some  of the things i'm thinking of obviously our   staff our teachers you know especially during  covet they just really showed

100up and they were   you know initiating new things for virtual  learning on the fly and they did it very well   and you know we have a highly invested community  and i think as a district we really need to like   use that to our advantage and help us you  know continue to improve and move forward and   like some of us some of you guys mentioned  you know our programming at the high school   and just that constant strive to do better thank  you thank you all right now they're going to   give their closing statements and then i have  just a couple of quick announcements after that   trying to give you hope okay um so we're going  to start with you ms voss your closing statement   okay i um i think one of the qualities that i  have

101that would make me really great on the board   is that i pretty good at bringing people together  i'm i've taken classes to be a certified mediator   so i've learned how how to bring people  together when there are differences of opinions   but more importantly but what why i want to  do this job i've been i've been dancing around   education my entire life i was almost an education  major cho psych instead in law school i was a ta   about seven years out of law out of being  practicing attorney i took an alternative   certification uh to get certified through desi  and i have that application filled out in a drawer   with the 50 check because i want to be i wanted  to be an english high school a high school english   teacher and i didn't send it in

102because my firm  gave me the opportunity to work three days a week   and i had to sit down and think what's best for  my family and i stayed with the firm at that point   and so even now though at my law firm i've  moved out of litigation into a role where   part of my job is educating attorneys i have  always had this drive to make sure that there's   quality education and that people can learn  everything they need to know to succeed and   i feel like that maybe all of my experiences where  i got so close to being a teacher but backed away   maybe that led me to today so that i could be here  in this role serving the education that way and i   hope to get your vote on april 5th ms clay i

103would  again like to end tonight's forum by talking about   unity i think this really sets me apart from the  other candidates it's been something i've really   been working on and really have been talking to  community members about we we are we are a divided   district right now we really need to come together  as a district i believe the tone of the district   comes from the top and our board needs to set an  example of of for unity when elected to the board   i will work to unite our district i understand  the need for compromise and am willing to listen   to all opinions from all stakeholders and i'm  willing to change my own opinion um you know we   all have our own opinions but i think it's really  important to be willing to listen to others

104and   get all the input you can and all the data you  can and if if you need to change your opinion   i think it's important to be able to do that i  think that's a sign of a real leader to admit   when you were wrong and that you're willing  to change and admit that you've made a mistake   i will put students first when making all  my decisions i'll be fiscally responsible to   the taxpayers of our district and i will work  for increased transparency and accountability   i believe parents should be a partner in their  child's education and that we need to listen and   put great weight on parents concerns i'll strive  to bring back academic excellence in our school   district and i really hope you all vote for me on  april 5th thank you thank you

105ms miller um so i'm   the type of person that i you know i analyze data  i think things through very thoroughly i reflect   which sometimes i think is a weakness because  i get in my own head and can't get past it but   i will continue to seek continuous improvement  for myself and for the district and be open to   new ideas and listening my time on the board has  given me the experience to continue to move our   district forward and i believe my professional  experience gives me that usable knowledge as well   you know i am proud to be a part of  limburg we are top district and other   districts come to us and look to us as an example   and you know the department of elementary and  secondary education in missouri does as well so i

106just want to say that you know  lindbergh is constantly researching   evaluating and making changes when needed and  looking ahead and planning for the education   of students so that they are prepared  for whatever future path they choose   i've greatly enjoyed my time on the  board and valued it i've learned a lot   very like personally and professionally and  i hope that on april 5th you will use one of   your two votes to vote for jennifer miller  thank you thank you finally mr randleman   thank you by now you have heard many concerns  addressed by the candidates you have also heard   my thoughts on structured literacy and the  importance of getting back to on the path of   educational excellence this election is certainly  one of the most important i can recall because it   boils down to one very simple

107question and that is  where do we draw the line between parents versus   school responsibility the administration believes  that is up to them to provide our children with   what they deem as social emotional support  principles empathy moral values intersectionality   lenses and identity through books to read with  topics such as gender and sexual orientation when   you hear terms like teaching the whole student  this is part of what that means let me tell you   what will happen if we allow the administration to  parent on these topics we will lose our diversity   and instead we will raise a generation of children  who will think in one way we will lose our unique   individuality and freedom of conscience i know  that the community loves lundberg schools and   we wish to see them go back to focus on academics  and be

108an excellent school district we have known   them to be by focusing on the literacy focusing  on math bringing back interventions for those   students who struggle and making sure we maximize  student potential by restoring challenge and honor   classes i know we can get back to that place we  need more diverse voices on the board we need   more say as parents if you feel as i do that  more transparency on what is being taught is   required that boundaries are needed that it is  for the parents to parent and for the district   to teach then they ask for your vote because we  need voices of the parents and community on the   board for the future of our children and for that  of our school district finally as an immigrant i   would kindly like to end with wishes that

109god  bless america and that i am grateful for you   all listening and being here tonight thank you  thank you let's give them all a round of applause it isn't easy is it it isn't easy okay thank you and again thank you for participating and  participating seriously and thank you to all of   you for making this a successful event i hope that  you feel as if your concerns and questions have   been respected and asked we got through a lot of  things tonight you know it's possible to do this   in a civil and thoughtful and constructive  way it's possible to do it and we need to   continue to do it at every level of government and  community that we have thank you to our hosts for   inviting us i think this is the first time the  league

110has done a forum here we sure hope will   be asked back and i want to thank the volunteers  from the league if you'll just hold up your hands and if you found this forum to  be useful and i hope you did   think about joining us by becoming a  member of the league this is what the   league is working for and our country needs  it desperately desperately at every level   and so we've got material on that as we work  at every level of government to make it better   from registering voters to educating voters to  trying to design discussion forums where we can   have a civil serious discussion to all kinds  of things now the polls are going to be open on   april 5th from 6 a.m to 7 p.m i want everybody in  this audience because

111you know sometimes municipal   and local elections are low turnout elections  i've looked at the numbers in this district   so i want each of you to take responsibility for  finding five people who are registered to vote   it's too late to register now as of march the  9th and make sure they do it and they need not   only to go to vote they need to know what they're  doing and so we have some good resources for that   if you want non-partisan and fair and balanced  information go to something called vote411 we've   got some stuff back there and you'll you'll see  the voter's guide that comes out in paper and it   comes out online you know who does that the league  of women voters we do all of the content for six   counties and the city of st

112louis so we have  over 860 candidates over a hundred ballot issues   this time around and we hope that you will do that  it's going to be online in the next several days   middle of uh you know probably by the weekend and  uh it the st louis post dispatch also publishes it   and we carry it to every library every community  center that we can and so please encourage people   to use that as a way to get information now some  of the polling places have changed so not a lot of   them and i didn't have time to look at yours but  make sure you know what your polling place is you   should get a postcard from your board of elections  you can also look on the board of election site   just type in your address and by

113the way i forgot  to tell you that if you look at the voter's guide   vote 411 what you do is you put in your address  it pops up just your ballot everything that's on   your ballot with information about the candidates  and their answers to questions as well as ballot   issues and we've got at least we have four charter  amendments for the county that are really serious   we try to explain them in real english and  do the pros and cons of both so please look   at those but find out where your polling place  is on election day if you have any difficulties   you can call the league of women voters you can  look us up take our number back there you can   call the board of elections we are also involved  in something called the missouri

114voter protection   group for the state of missouri so if you have  any difficulty if they lost your registration   or whatever it is and remember that the county  now says that you can go to any polling place so   i mentioned the other because people like to go  to their own polling place but remember they got   those new machines where you can go to any polling  place and vote but if you have any difficulty with   any of these things you call and there will  be a sign outside your polling places that   here's the number of the missouri voter protection  we have lawyers and everybody lined up to help   everybody to make sure that everybody votes  on election day so i thank you very much   and i'm sure the candidates will answer your  questions thank you very much

115for asking us you

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