001Let's call this meeting to order. Roll call, please. Dr. McInness. Yeah. Miss Lanny, Mr. Richmond, yes. Mr. Moore, here. Miss Jes, Miss Williams, here. Miss Miller, and Miss Curts here. All stand for the pledge of allegiance, please. I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Okay. Members of the board, is there a motion to appoint Ashley as this evening's um I guess Miss Evening's Donna Baker? So much. Thank you. A motion a second. And whenever you're ready. That's me already. Okay. Miss Lanny. Nope. Mr. Richmond. Yes. Mr. Moore. Yes, Miss Chz. Yes, Miss Williams. Yes, Miss Curts. Yes. And the motion passes six to zero. Approval of the agenda. Is there a motion?
002Thank you, Whitney. Is there a second? I'll second. Thank you, Mike. Whenever you're ready. Okay. Miss Lanny, Mr. Richmond, yes. Mr. Moore, yes. Miss Chzn, yes. Miss Williams, yes. Mer, yes. And the motion passes 60. Okay, the bond update. Uh, yes. I give you a quick update. Not a whole lot of differences from the last time because things are have progressed pretty well. U, the athletic fields and tracks, uh, central, they've started laying turf there. Um, they had to go back and do a little bit of soil stabilization last week, but, uh, they're starting to put some of the underllayment pad down there and everything. So, you should start to see some of that very soon. Uh they're finishing up some dirt work both at uh Benton and Lafayette. Finishing up some drainage at Lafayette
003and then uh before too long you'll start to see some stuff being laid there as well. Uh Hosia final walk through today. Just a few minor touch-ups. Uh so we're about to officially take the keys over uh to that new addition. So it uh it looks really really good if you get a chance to be down there. the road projects uh Cardon Park be finalized any day right now. Uh there's a traffic light that we're waiting on to finish that, but the road itself is complete. Oak Grove uh work is beginning there. Um so hopefully uh weather will hold and we can get moving on that as well. Sidewalks uh Parkway is nearly finished. We're about ready to sign off on that project over there. uh picket uh mobilization has begun there so you may
004see some equipment uh starting to be around there so work will be starting soon there spring garden uh they're starting to do some saw cutting and erosion control there uh so you'll start to see some work going on there pretty soon as well intercom systems Jake's piece here uh completed buildings are Parkway pickrove uh buildings that they're finishing programming are Cardon Park and Lake Contrary buildings that are installed but they're awaiting the programming are Lafayette, Central and Benton and they're currently installing in Spring Garden. So that project's coming along and it's on track to uh be completed prior to school starting in the fall. Fine arts uh they are near completion on all projects there. Uh equipment is pretty much finished as far as any ordering there. I think we have some curtains to install
005at a couple of places and that that may be just about the final piece of that those projects. So, lots of projects there. Uh HVAC upgrades work is going on at all four sites right now. So, Rubidoo, Edison, Field, and Mark Twain all have uh activity going on there. And then the science and technology upgrades uh we should have the final purchases uh should begin this month and will be complete. um from everything on that. So, uh a lot of good stuff going on. Dr. Edgar and I uh spent some time walking around with Chris Roush last week. Uh so, we should have a good story, uh coming out. I think that will be nice to show a lot of people all the work that's been done. So, there's been a lot of work done
006in the last uh 12 months. So, be happy to answer any questions you might have. Are the majority of those things scheduled to be done before fall? Um, I'm trying to look and make sure. All the all the tracks and fields. Yes, Hosio would be done any day. Oak Grove will not make it by fall. That was the bid that was approved last board meeting. Um, it's going to take a little longer. Uh, Spring Garden, uh, same, probably shortly after the beginning of school. Intercom systems will be done before school. Fine arts should be done within the next month or two. So, it will be done before school. HVAC, the plan is to have those all done before school in the fall as well. Um, and science technology upgrades will be finished this month. Thank
007you. Any other questions? Thank you, Dr. Secret. Okay, Dr. Laauo. There she is. Okay, you should have a document by your stations. So, I just um wanted to give all of you a brief update on our CIP implementation review and our progress towards that. So, I just put a little information at the very beginning so you kind of get a feel for uh some of the timeline. So, you may remember September 9th of last year, we received notification um that we had been selected for the comprehensive school improvement plan, the CESIP implementation review by Desi as part of the M66 and DESIE educa uh education requirements. So then on October 15th, uh we came back and gave you um a formal presentation about our CEIP and um making sure that you were aware of where
008we were on that and an update to the CEIP for 2024. Then March of 2025, uh, Desi um gave us our first formal presentation of information. And so they let us know all of the documents and all the requirements for this this formal review. And then uh coming is July 1st. uh Desi will hold their secondformational meeting providing updated guidance and addressing questions that districts may have as they begin their implementation review work. So again, this is um you may recall in 2022 under MSP 6, we were one of the first districts chosen to submit their CSIP through this process. And so this is our review as to implementation and updated continuous school improvement plan. So that just gives you a timeline of where we've been and where we're going. So just so that you
009know now that we have those documents from uh the department of elementary and secondary education there's basically uh five core requirements uh with a total possible score you can get on these five um categories of 42 points. So the first is continuous school improvement. The second is CESIP fidelity implementation rubric. The third is priorities for continuous improvement. The fourth is CIP implementation uh responses and then the fifth is a culture or a climate and culture verification report. So I just wanted to update you on all of those categories to let you know where we are on those things. So, for um continuous school improvement, a draft of the district's continuous improvement plan was submitted to the regional director as of uh June 6, 2025. And we received feedback actually today, um June 9th, um which
010is being incorporated to strengthen our plans further. So just as a side note, I had sent this to our regional director on Friday and she responded, "Hi Kendra, this is a great working document. It is easy to monitor and implement. The key is can anyone pick up this document and follow the district's vision." So we're off to a good start. We thought that was good feedback. I shared that today in our in our academic services meeting. Um then if you'll if you'll flip your page over um cease fidelity of implementation rubric. The initial review of the fidelity rubric has been completed. The district is now working collaboratively to fully develop this rubric with plans for building level improvement plans as well. We really like this document and so uh together Dr. Adams and I have
011been working on a rubric that can be used for buildings um and their improvement uh plans so we can monitor more closely the fidelity to their actions versus their plans. Um and then we also have priorities for continuous improvement. So that's another component. So all required document documentation has been reviewed and compiled for DESI's consideration. Notably, on December 16th, the board of education received a detailed presentation on the 2024 annual performance report and grade level proficiencies. Further, on February 10th, 2025, the SJSD balance scorecard was presented as a key tool for monitoring our CSIP progress. And so basically what priorities continue for continuous improvement encompass for from Jessie's lens and and for ours are how do we know that these documents and um what are the what is the evidence that the plan is continuingly
012being implemented. So when we submit documents we have to draw from board of education documents so that they are clear that those things are happening and those things are being presented. That's why I pointed out those two pieces. Um, so for as far as CIP implementation responses, a draft of the district's responses was submitted to the regional director on April 20th of 2025. And on June 4th, the uh the district received confirmation that the documents met the DESIE requirements. So those are a lot of responses that DESIE is asking us to compile as to how um do we know that our CIP is being implemented and and how do we how can we describe that to them in simple terms that they can um understand that we are doing those things. Um and then a
013culture and climate verification report. This report was sent to the regional director on January 20th of 2025 and subsequently re uh presented to the superintendent's cabinet in February of 2025 for review and discussion. So the next steps um all required documents for the CIP implementation review are due to DESIE on December 2020 25. So I take a pause here to let you know that this document, this brief that I've put together for you is simply a preview of what's to come. so that we are sending draft um drafts of what is required of us now so that when we bring these these documents to you for your review that they're not in draft form anymore. So this is just a brief so that you um can better understand where we are in terms of our
014progress. Um the district's current progress positions us well um to earn full points. That's the feedback we've gotten so far for each require requirement and to complete the process ahead of schedule. So, we're looking forward to that. And then, you know, as we look to the future, successfully meeting these requirements will provide a strong foundation for the 2025 2030 CET. And again, that's the document that I submitted on Friday and got uh feedback uh for today, which is currently being developed. We've got a lot more work to do. um but it is a framework and so we're looking forward to um really developing that document and it will guide our continuous improvement e efforts over the next five years. Um so in summary, the district has demonstrated a proactive and um systematic approach to CIP
015implementation and processes with clear milestones achieved and ongoing collaboration. and the district is on track to meet all DESIE requirements positioning itself for continued success with regards to the CESIP. So that was just a brief to let you know where we were on that and that journey again started back in September of last year and I'm happy to take any questions but more to come because we'll be sharing these documents with you. Um It's a lot of information and a lot of work. Um, I do appreciate everything that you guys are doing and you mentioned um we'll be able to look at everything at the end. Yes. Okay. Yeah. And in not draft form. Ideally on June 30th when we have our board retreat, I believe CIP is a part of that. It' be great
016to get feedback from the board as far as the direction we're going to with with those goals. Sorry. I'm sorry. It's okay. No, go ahead. I'm Are we able to look at the climate and the culture report? Yes. Like or is that like at the end or are we able to look at that like anytime soon? So I we have we have been submitting that since uh 2023. Um but we'll submit another one for this cycle. So yeah, it exists and so that's something I can get to Dr. Hick. Thank you. In September of 24 when we were selected um there's different connotations to the word selected. Correct. Yes. And and and random is their selection process. Okay. Yeah. And um so is it but is it an honor to be selected or is it
017No, not necessarily. Um it's just that um when in 2022 we were selected to be in cycle one of this whole process out of the 500 and some odd districts across the state. We could have not been we could have declined because Dr. Edgar was a new superintendent, but he told us, you know what, we're going to go for it. So we we started in cycle one. That's now that's why now we're being reviewed for our implementation in cycle two. Congratulations. Yes. Thank you. It's not a good thing or a bad thing though. No, I didn't mean to infer the other, but I sounds like it is a lot of work and it'll be interesting to see as it comes out um how that work does guide our our actions. You know what I mean?
018that that's really a mystery to me at this point, but I'll look forward to learning that. Yeah. Anything else, guys? Thank you, Dr. L. Um, externship. Is that you, Dr. Mus? Yes, it is. That's me. Uh, so this is the third year that we are bringing back the externship experience. I do believe they did this prior to COVID and then it kind of paused. So, this is in partnership with actually Christy Arthur at the workforce alliance and it's an opportunity for our teachers and our counselors to have an experience in local business organizations. So we have six of those this year. That's listed on the actual grant that is Altech, BI, Herszog, Hillyard, Midland Steel, and Mosaic. And so what they do is they go to those places uh for four different days. They'll have
019a rotation and go to four different businesses and learn about what some of those career paths are just to educate them to be able to provide more knowledge to our students. Um, so this is a grant that is offered through the state and we've had 20 people sign up for the externship experience in July. Five of them requested to be paid outside of career ladder and so we are seeking those funds through the state with the assistance of Northwest RPDC. So this is the same route that we took last year and then hopefully if we are awarded they will pay up to 20 individuals if they are choosing not to use career ladder. So everyone is compensated and we've let them choose if they want to tap into career ladder or if they'd rather be
020paid outright the 46 $464 daily I'm sorry weekly rate. I see you got a question. I do. So, I'm trying to get my arms around this idea that we choose the method by which we get paid. So, like is this are these folks that aren't eligible for career ladder but they'd like to go so they need a grant? Is that is that some of them are some of them choose to do both. So, they want to make the $464 and then they also participate in career ladder. So, why wouldn't everyone want to do that? They have a lot of other stuff. They want to do the hours. Some people do not choose to do career ladder. We had 409 that did it this year, but some people just simply don't want to do the hours.
021There's a 50% student contact hours rule. And so, okay, so it's more than just this one event for u externship career ladders. You sign up for a bunch more than just we do. Yes, that's that um what I reported on last month. So that there's three different stages. they have 50 hours, 75 hours or 100 hours throughout the whole year. And so some people like to get their hours get a head start and tap into this as an opportunity and it also benefits their kids. There's quite a few counselors who do that um to see make those business contacts and then also Hillyard staff. But then other folks um just would rather get paid outright. They're not either they're not doing career ladder or they know they're going to go way over the 100 hours.
022So they would like that compensation and career ladder hours. Does that make sense? I'm gonna say yes, but you don't have to. Yeah. So, per board policy DD, I am to present this. It's um still in the works and I actually think we have a sixth person who is wanting to be paid. So, I'm glad that we have that up to 20 participants in the grant. How do we select the externship hosts? the host that's through the workforce alliance with the chamber. So we partner with the chamber and they identify the businesses that we send to. Correct. Okay. So I'm just going to go ahead and say I have a real problem with this partnership with Herszog. Um I know we're not supposed to talk about Herszog. Um, but I have a real problem with
023us working with a business that is actively funneling millions of dollars into defunding and dismantling public education. That seems very contradictive. Um, I have a I just have a real problem with that. And obviously if no one else does then we can act like it's nothing and it's no big deal. Um but uh I think we go it's like the worst kept secret in town. It's the worst kept secret in our school district. Um and I just have a real problem with it. But again, if I'm the only person that has a problem with it, then it'll move forward. Are there any additional questions or comments? Thank you, Dr. McInness. Thank you, Miss Lanny. Adjusted here. We know this is always a problem for me. Okay. So before you you have a new um job
024description for what is called a nurse supervisor for special services and this came about through a conversation with Dr. Ed Edgar when he met with the nurses at his monthly lunchons that he does. Um there are concerns about um RNs. What you may or may not know is when we have LPNs on staff, they have to be supervised by an RN and all of that documentation has to be checked over by them. They have to oversee their work, so on and so forth. So, I was brought into the conversation because we were looking at potentially having to outsource some of our nurses um through supplemental, which is kind of my cup of tea with all the supplemental staff that I have to employ. So, I started doing some thinking and brainstorming about how we could
025potentially um ease that load while also protecting some of our most vulnerable students. So, we created this job description. Tammy um Smith Henchi and I did based off of a model that we saw in a couple of other districts. And this nurse supervisor would oversee the LPN paras within the district that provide services for special needs students. So currently we employ three LPN paras that are one to one um necessary per students IEP or health needs. Um for instance students that have tra um feeding tubes uh very significant disabilities that require medical care. Um, next year we will have seven LPN Paris on staff due to significant medical needs that are related to uh students on IEPs. So, when doing some research and thinking, um, we could potentially, um, hire an a nurse supervisor that
026would oversee these LPN paras that could help oversee all of their documentation, provide significant training, some of which we haven't really been able to provide like we need to. But then also we can bill for Medicaid, which we've been wanting to do with our LPN's um that oversee special services, but we just really haven't felt like we could because we didn't have the staff to maintain that. Um so you'll notice in the description um we have been told by our Medicaid vendor that we could increase revenue at minimum to 360 to $500,000. So, we're we could potentially make money off of this position while also keeping students safe and supporting our RNs. So, with that being said, the RNs within the buildings would still be able to take care of their students, their diabetics, their
027clinics without having to try to oversee this as well. And again, this is just a new job description that we felt um could be supported and paid for through special services with the Medicaid reimbursements, but then also we have a high needs fund that this could also be tagged to. Why is it dually supervised? So, it has two Yeah. So, I obviously don't have a nursing background. Um, and so I feel like although I would supervise a portion of it because it would be paid for out of my department, that Tammy would also need to supervise and know exactly what kind of training was needed for that. So that's why we said it was a dual supervision because then also we train our LPN Paris on how to perform in the classroom like with the
028um par needs as well as the nursing needs. Is there another question? No, I mean I just I mean if if the coordinator I just I don't ever I don't typically see two supervisors situations going well. Yeah. So she wouldn't work directly with Tammy. She would be with house within buildings and just oversee those seven individuals. So, I know other districts like Liberty has this model because of the significant needs and documentation that's required with the dual supervision. Oh, you mean both of us supervising? No, I'm not concerned about the position. I I think the position is great. I think the way you're going to fund it is great. I don't have any problem with that. I just have it as like the So, we just felt like both needed to be involved, I guess
029I should say. So, Tammy would really evaluate the person. Okay. I just feel like if I am paying for it out of my department and there are expectations on the Paris side and the Medicaid side which I oversee that we kind of both have a role in that if that makes sense. Yeah, you see that in other organizations like dotted line, right? Just be clear, I would say on on who's um you know who's the acting supervisor for things like performance appraisals and uh you know um problems that might arise, how that's handled. So, absolutely, we would definitely outline that. Like I said, I would not do any of the supervisor and checking on the nursing portion. It would really be the training of the Medicaid, making sure that was um done appropriately and then
030the Paris supervision portion. Okay, any other questions? Questions? Thank you. Thank you. Okay, Della. Hello. I wanted to um discuss with you or bring to your attention that we are hoping to apply again for the MLQPK grant. Um it is open, the application window is open currently and we do plan um to with your approval at the next board meeting to go ahead and apply for that again. So this last year we had 65 students that re we received funding for um which was a great addition to our program. The beauty of the MQPK program is that you you have to still meet criteria but it doesn't have they don't all the students do not have to qualify for free and reduced lunch where through our ADA funding for our preschool classrooms you do. So,
031this allows um additional students to be able to participate in our preschool program that do not qualify for early childhood special ed or through title funds or ADA. It just gives us an additional funding stream. So, the actual application is due I believe on the 27th. Yes. Um so, June 27th. So, we'll have a board meeting prior to that. Um and hopefully we'll have an approval to move forward and then we would know on July 9th if we get awarded the grant. You guys have any questions for me? How many classrooms? Um, so this past year we ended up with four classrooms. We had we started with three and then they had a additional funds so they allowed us to open up one more classroom. Um, and so we ended up with a fourth. So
032this for this so what we're looking into and this is why I don't have exact numbers right now um with the state is a blended model of funding to where we can have in the same classroom funded students ADA ECSC title instead of having separate classrooms the hope would be that we could have blended classrooms so we don't have the final approval on that so if we were to stick with separate classrooms I would anticipate it still being four two at each building. However, if it goes by student count, which is what I'm hoping for, so we can have a more diverse population in our classrooms, then um you know, it'll be by student number. Who prints that approval? Um the approval comes through Desi. Yes. So, yep. It's a one that is through the
033Department of Elementary and Secondary Education, Office of Childhood puts this out. And so, not only can school districts apply, but also childcare facilities. So you'll see that other individuals also apply for this grant. Priority is given to um eleas who have received the the grant prior which we will have that benefit and then also if we um we claim ADA funds so average daily attendance funds for preschool and the amounts already guaranteed. Yeah. So that's the beauty also of that it is a guaranteed amount where our ADA um it depends on attendance and so with our littles attendance isn't always as strong and I understand that kids get sick and um they don't always come so we do get funded on um a set rate per student. I already knew that. I just wanted everybody
034else to Oh, okay. Um, I will go ahead and say that with this um some of the qualifi or some of the things we have to do is we have to be a part of a quality assurance program. Um, which it was really it was good for us last year and we plan on next year moving forward with the whole both early learning centers doing that. Um, regardless and then we have to use a curricul same same rules as for our other programs, same curriculum and all that. So, any other questions? I think that's it. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. Okay. Employee handbook. Mr. Crow, thank you for having me at the table today. I'm sitting in for Dr. Krauss is unable to make it. Um, attached you'll find the changes to the employee handbook
035for 2526. The changes are in red. Um once you look at this and if you have any questions, we'll go back and make some um adjustments and present that next week, excuse me, in two weeks. Some of the main changes in the handbook um are noted in the legend. I'll just kind of go over those briefly. Um there's a welcome statement changing from Dr. Edgar to Dr. McInness. made some changes to the mission goals and values from page seven. Um page 15 to 20, the entirety of section 31 was revised but there are no significant changes in the content. Um 23 and 24 Senate Bill 727 um some changes because of that that is a result of the academic calendar and AMI days. Page 46 um identifies our new evaluation system going from talent ed
036to frontline and then ages 52 and 53 about crayons to computers. I know there were some questions about that and we are um we're going to meet and and discuss that soon. Um and then page 70 identifies the date and method for signing off on the employee handbook. Can you go into greater detail on the crayons to computers. Um, I'll let Dr. Edgar. Okay. Um, so what what had happened there is uh I think we probably just need some better oversight or supervisory type um clarification. So, I'll just be honest with you. I did not see this and when I saw it um I don't feel that it's necessary to punish 1600 employees for one person's mistake. Um, and so we we did have an employee, a good employee, um, who we ran into some
037issues with in regards to selling the product. And, um, so anyway, um, that I guess that's why that's in there, but um, we we'll be taking it out. So, what part are you going to take out? Probably all of it. Like no reference to, right? because it was never it was never referenced before. Right. Okay. And we don't operate we don't operate do we operate? We operate we oversee it. Um Christina um I believe is her name. What's her last name? Holmes. Christina Holmes. I'm sorry. Uh she she is the operations manager for that. Okay. Good. And we will reach out to her though and have a conversation. I don't know if anyone had a conversation with her yet, but we will, you know, sit on visit with her, too, because she is the one
038that deals with it on an everyday basis. You don't want to put her in that position in my opinion. Did we follow up with person that um was not appropriately using that? M. Yes. Unfortunately, uh like I said, she was a she was a very good teacher for us at uh Rubadoo, but uh was a um international teacher and stuff. Yeah. Right. Um there wasn't like a combo with Christina prior to putting this in the handbook. N okay, we're going to fix it and remove it. So there goes all my questions. Are there any more about the handbook? Hey Mark, help me understand. Uh 31 was completely revised but no significant changes in content. What's going on there? I would love to answer that question but um I cannot because I was not a part
039of these changes. Okay. So I I I apologize. Yeah, I just I don't know if anybody else has any any background on you know I mean there's there's no changes but it's completely revised. I'm just trying Am I helping? Yeah, I will do some investigating and I will get back with you. Thank you. Because it's like all in red. But are we approving this next meeting or are we just looking at this or next meeting? Yeah. Well, and I think it's is handbook's just usually anformational. It's not a board approved. It's just anformational tag, I think. I couldn't remember but I mean I would like you know to look get this answered prior to it being official like and I because it's hiring. Well, we've and we've had this conversation before. My only issue with
040with the handbook not being something that we approved is that it's related to to personnel action. It's related I can't remember exactly. We talked about an issue that had to do with pay. I cannot remember what it was. It was I I do now. Do you remember that? Yeah, it was in there. It was like the uh $30 an hour. Oh, it was the It was the um Were we discussing days? It was Yes. Paid days for It's the paid days for the hourly staff. So, I I would make the point that if it if if we're making decisions on pay and personnel decisions, either it shouldn't be in the handbook or it should be something that's approved by us and put into the handbook. And I and I get the rest of it is
041not, you know, u we don't know what's in that one, but you know, some of this like with 23 24 like that's not in there, but but if it's something that's going to affect compensation and personnel decisions. I think again either we approve the handbook or we approve the policy that is referenced in the handbook. I don't disagree. I don't see why you wouldn't approve the handbook. And I would say that the reason behind it is because if you make changes throughout the year, then you don't have to take it back to the board each time, but I don't see an issue with approving the employee handbook. So, I think we can put it on there as What do you guys think? kind of talk. Is it normal that we make changes during a year?
042I'm just guessing as that that's the reason why. Um but I I I really don't know that time, but I don't see a I don't see anything negative to why he wouldn't do it. We just never have. What do you think, Dr. McInness? I don't see anything changing in the employee handbook. Parent student handbook like the cell phone bill. If that's going to pass, then obviously we would change the parent and student handbook, that language. So that would make a difference. The only thing I can think of that I'm looking at right now is the AMI days. So if for some reason something happened and we had to change the AMI days. Right now we have makeup days. So if we go over our six days of six hours, we have makeup days. If for
043some reason those were to change, then we would have to bring that back to the board. I guess the only thing I'd say is that it's very similar to APS in your policy. I disagree with that too. Procedures. Yeah, that's just my opinion. My opinion will mean nothing in a few weeks. And honestly, we have talked about changing scenario A, scenario B. It's my personal opinion. Our staff still get hung up on what's scenario B. Does that mean I go to work today? I would rather us just use clear language of who goes to work. I think that's confusing for staff. We have a scenario C, a scenario D. I don't know if you guys know that. So, and with that example, I mean, if we change AMI days, the board's going to be involved
044in that conversation anyway. It's not like you're not, you know what I'm saying? When you approve that in when you prove that in a board meeting for it to go get updated in a handbook, I don't think you would need to bring the handbook back. like you're updating this and you're and it's board approved so you're updating what we've already approved to make that change you said. Yep. Okay. Okay. Any other comments? Where did my agenda go? Okay. Job description updates. Okay. That's me as well. Um we've attached those as well. I know there were some questions. So after some collaboration today with district leadership, um we are suggesting that we do not approve the job descriptions at the June board meeting so we can go back and have some further discussion and hopefully bring
045those back to you in July. Um we found a few inconsistencies in some of the documents. For example, for middle school assistant principal, there is no mention of athletic duties of being an AD. So, we want to make sure that things like that get added to the job description. Um, that's just one inaccuracy that we that we saw today based on some of the questions and and some some discussion. So, we would like to take that back and review them again with our teams and make sure they are as accurate as possible. In advance of that, I had a couple, I guess now, suggestions. So, some of some of the job descriptions had tweaks and and you know, like just revisions to wording, things like that. Some of them had pretty significant changes and some
046of them had reduced requirements. Um, in the agenda though, it said that there were no financial uh uh changes. But when we're changing a job description that much and we're changing the requirements, I would think that we would want to look at the salary, making sure that's commiserate with the responsibilities. Um also, if you're reducing the requirements, so if I'm a Spanish teacher is the one that that stood out to me. If I'm a Spanish teacher and I was hired under this set of requirements and then we're changing those or reducing those requirements, and I understand the point of doing that. I I get the situation of public education staffing, but if we're doing that, if I'm a current staff person, I might feel somewhat resentful by the fact that I was hired on a
047salary schedule with this and then someone else is being hired at a, you know, not at the same requirements getting paid the same. So, I guess that that goes back to my salary question or suggestion. So, I asked Dr. Cross about that um a couple meetings ago and he had said that because I asked him, they said these ones are getting changed and a lot put on. He said that um it's not that they're added more duties, but they're just being more detailed of what they actually do through the day. Is that correct? Yeah, because I I had spoken with Heather Adams, who's going to be my right-hand person. Um, and there were some questions about the specialist or generalist generalist. Generalist, but there were a lot of additions to that and um it's really
048it's not really what they're doing daytoday. Um, the entire team is doing that. It's something that they do occasionally and they just added that to the job description. So it wouldn't be something additional that they are doing from day one. It's something that just wasn't in there. Does that help? I know another one that I was looking at um was the um and directional coach. Um there were like lots of like a majority of it was marked off. Well, and then it's missing the qualifications. It's not placed on like a pay schedule at all. Just those little things, you know, but I mean, if you guys are going to look at it more in depth. Um well and then the business partner coordinator positions like it's like a completely other job. Okay. But the title's
049the same. I can speak to that one. So we have someone in that spot right now and I would say what that person has been doing is going to schools, going to businesses, creating a partnership, but then there hasn't been a whole lot of follow through. So, for example, when I was at Lafayette as the principal, we added Buffalo Wild Loud wings as a business partner. They gave wings, add a pep assembly, and then we didn't have a whole lot more interaction. Our needs have changed and headed down the path of real world learning. Um, we've moved Dr. Davis over to academic services to help with expanding the pilot that we've done at Benton High School from UVA learning. We want to expand that to all three high schools. So we are taking advantage of
050an opportunity to use that person in a different way. Um side note, we also have the school district foundation who also does some business partners work. Um so the position that we have now we are hoping can be that connector between schools and business community to provide kids with more opportunities for job shadowing real world learning informal apprenticeships all of those those pieces. So that is a complete change on that role. Um he's he's aware of that Dr. Davis is aware of that. Academic services aware. So that kind of evolved based on our our changing needs. So how how will these I think the thing that would help me in if we're coming back in July um would be any changes potent necessary changes to the salary schedule or positions and their placement on the
051salary schedule but also an org chart um because I know some of these physicians changed who they're reporting to um so that we can see who's reporting to who who's in what department Um, but then also, and this doesn't need to be anything complicated, but some sort of an implementation plan. Um, you know, I know in situations like this, um, staff can say, "Well, I've never seen my job description, or I, you know, I saw my job description when I got hired 20 years ago, but it's been changed. I haven't seen it." Um, so, and I know that's a lot of people and a lot of job descriptions, but if we have some sort of plan of how are we going to let people know this is your job description, this is what you're supposed
052to be meeting. Yeah. Like because we're looking at these well now then everybody that's already in the role like it's new job duties then, right? Right. Um, and I'll just tell you from my experience, a lot of us were, we recruited those people who were in the roles to be part of the rewrite of the job description. So, I took librarians, library facilitators, and I had those librarian gals that I've worked with for a year now and take a look at that and add some pieces. So, they some of them were a part of that. I I will tell you any any job description that fell in any of my departments, that's who I had take a look at it. the people who are actually doing the jobs to make sure the description matched what
053they're doing. So, while we're at that, since I'm on the thank you tour at meetings anyway, thanks to the people in my department who spent the time looking at those and doing that because I didn't look at very many of them. They're the ones who looked at them. Uh the ones I directly supervised, I looked at those along with the people in those positions. it. For example, you know, a a building tech, I don't know what a building tech does on a day-to-day basis, but Jake Kelly probably has a pretty good idea. Somebody in food service, I don't know specifically what they do on a day-to-day, but Becky does. And so those people are the ones who really looked at those along with the people in the roles it on my side of things and
054I think that's probably what happened in a lot of the other department areas, too. And that's I mean that was a great way to do it, but I think then making sure it was not your idea. um it was a good way to do it. But I think then making sure that that maintenance tech knows and obviously if there's some that don't have material changes, if it's just, you know, a word here and there, then it's not as necessary. But the big ones obviously. Hey Mark, one other thing that I noticed when we that first night when I was added to the board and voted erroneously um on some of the new positions, they um the requirements were completely clear whether required or preferred and that many of these have under qualifications required or preferred.
055But some of them don't use that either of those languages. They So, I'm just saying as you look through that, it might be good to take a look at the structure and see if could could we get that requirement on all of them. I I I could give a couple examples, but I think it'd be easier for you guys to look through those and see if there's a way to have those so that it's clear what's required. Okay. Any additional comments? Thank you, Mr. Crow. Okay, Dr. Seagars. Uh, yes, just uh you've got um a little bit of an updated budget document uh attached for this meeting. Not a big change uh from what we looked at last month. Um so, I think this is probably pretty close to where we're going to land. Uh
056we did uh decrease a few expenditures a little bit. uh and our our uh spend down reserves is slightly less uh from what the one I brought to you in May is sort of fund balance is slightly better. Um I will say that the the reserve spend that we're talking about is 28% of the entire budget. So we're pretty close to a zero budget. Um and again we'll remind you that from a revenue standpoint we were very very conservative. Uh we're very very conservative with the numbers from Desi. Uh we went below uh what Desi's recommendations were on several of those things and again that is so that the worst budget you see is going to be the one we give you in June. Uh hopefully that will improve and there won't be any withholdings
057or anything like that throughout the year. And then we were also very conservative with the assessed valuation. Um, our five-year average, I believe, is somewhere around 2.4 and we we went with uh I can't remember Katie's not here. I can't We talked about 1.8. I think we went with 1.8. Yeah, 1.8. So, uh, again, we tried to be very conservative on the revenue side. Um, so my anticipation is that probably better than what I'm giving you right now, but I wanted to give the most conservative budget we could. Um, so what we bring to you in two weeks is going to be very very similar to this, if not exactly the same. Dr. Seagris, help help me feel good about the uh projected at least in this budget um $9 million spend uh over what
058we plan on taking in. Um I think you just gave me all the reasons. Um yeah, and I would encourage you to look at the operating that really But I'll be honest, when you look at that grand total, that always is a little confusing, I'll be honest with you, for me. Yeah. Um, but that takes into account capital funds where money is already committed. U, some of your bond spending is committed there, things like that. The money that's already committed in there that we're not going to take money in this year because we've already taken that money in. Okay. Okay. So, because it's just a year. Yeah. Yeah. So, when it crosses over into two budgets like that, it's Yeah. It's a little bit confusing and and like Dr. Seager said, what you need to
059do is just look at the operating in itself and that's really the the number that you want to concentrate on. The grand total, I don't know, everybody's always done it, but I asked 15 years ago, why do we put the grand total on there? Because all it does is create questions, but it creates questions because you're crossing over into two different budgets. Mhm. The operating is going to really show you what our actual fiscal year revenue and expenditures will be. So what 2526 reflects is going to be the operational expenses. Could we move that to could we move could we move that I mean because the grand total is not the grand total. So I think it's a statutory requirement or something. I think it's how we have to show it because but we can't
060show the revenue from those two from Well, there is no revenue this year. The revenue that's what I'm saying, but it's Yeah, that's fine. Yeah, because we sold the bonds in a different fiscal year. Yeah. Okay. So, what what makes more sense is we are currently thinking we're going to spend 1525 and and take in 1521. However, not terribly concerned about that $400,000 shortfall because of all the reasons you just mentioned. Right. I I I think our revenue will probably be better than that. Yeah. I would really anticipate that your first um budget amendment, you know, I would anticipate in October that you'll see a surplus. Yeah. If you remember last year, our original budget, uh we anticipated a 3.2 million spend down and we're we're under a million. And that's also a crazy the
061timing for budgeting and public education is not right either because they tell you you have to put a preliminary budget together in June and you don't have your first payroll till September and what's your big biggest expense? It's payroll. So it's almost like they do that on purpose and you don't know for sure what your revenues are going to be until they pass a budget in May. So yeah. Well, and you know that that that 430,000 is a way smaller percentage of what we're talking about here compared to 9 million earlier. Yeah. Right. So, probably a percent something like that. So, okay. Thank you. Any additional questions? The next one's yours to All right. U this one's not as good a news. Uh but um just as a reminder, last year um our stop-loss insurance
062was an increase of 12.5%. Uh we had two other proposals last year that were 53% 57% increases. Uh so the 12.5 looked really good at that time. Um this year, Lockton put it out to market. Um we had three uh firm proposals. Um there were six other business or excuse me uh six others that they declined to quote. Uh there were two others that were uncompetitive at 50 and 51%. Part of the issue that we're running into what we have right now it it's it's an ironic issue. One one piece we have is we have several um claimants that are hitting our stop-loss number. Our stop-loss insurance is at 200,000 and that's when our insurance kicks in anytime we have anyone with claims over 200,000. We have several employees uh that are hitting that for
063a variety of reasons. um employees or their dependents should say. Um even to the point that one of the three that bid actually uh wanted to put what's called a laser on one individual and make their deductible 395,000 as opposed to 200,000. Um so the the other piece so that's one of the pieces we're looking at. The second piece that's creating an issue for us is that we have performed so well that they anticipate we will come closer to market. So in a sense we're almost being penalized because we have uh had had a low claim amount. You know take that for what it's worth but they anticipate that we will come closer to what the average is so to speak or the median is. So, the three companies that have respondable proposals, Blue Cross,
064Blue Shield with a 33% increase, Symmetra with a 33% increase, and Optum with a 23% increase, but they're the ones that want the $395,000 laser on that individual, which would already that would essentially be $195,000. Well, is it you? You still do it. Yeah, it's not me. Sorry. And I'm still going to stay on the insurance when I retire. You're not getting rid of that. You're getting rid of me a little bit. You need to take better care. Uh yeah. Well, that's true. Water. So, um so the recommendation we anticipate that we're going to bring to you is Blue Cross Blue Shield. Um that is going to be about a $330,000 annual increase. Um so, uh again, the healthcare trust is in good shape. We can absorb that right now. Um with that, we did
065go say, "Well, let's take a look. Is is $200,000 the right deductible amount? And we ran it with 225 and ran with 250. Can you start over? What what' you say? Start over. So you can raise your There are just so many numbers in Yeah, you can raise the deductible amount from 200,000. So we we locked and looked at it with 225 and 250 instead of 200. um when they ran what they call the Monte Carlo municipal. I've learned a lot of insurance terms in the last couple years. Um the $200,000 deductible won 61% of the time. So it still is the one that makes the most sense from a liability standpoint. And I think that's the big thing to understand with stop-loss insurance. It really is. It's our safety net is what it is.
066It's not uh it's separate from our health insurance for everybody, but it's a safety net with us being self-insured that gives us that assurance that if we have some large claimments, we're going to have the most we're going to be out is 200,000 on those individuals. So, uh so the recommendation we'll bring to you is going to be uh to go with Blue Cross Blue Shield and stay with the $200,000 deductible. Um we're still working on trying to negotiate a little bit there. Um, but anticipate that it's going to be somewhere in that 33% range. The optimum with the 23% range with that laser uh did make it a 42% potential liability increase compared to the 33%. So that's why 23% may sound better right off the bat, but um from a statistical standpoint, it
067it didn't make as much sense. When you bring this back next month, can you bring back like projections for the for the healthcare trust? So I assume you're not going to put that in like an update as in when you say projections. Well, like if we're talking about cover, so we're going to cover the 330 from the healthcare trust, right? And that's a good thing for you to be for the school district to be self-insured because if you were fully insured at this time, this would be a big hit. Yeah. Um we have a $5 million balance. So your balance would your balance would be 4,600. So that's what you want the when I bring you that monthly amount of what's in healthare. Anybody who's kind of been like, well, we have a lot sitting
068there. That's why we have a lot sitting there. The anticipation of some of our our expenses coming closer to market because we have been our our claims have been really good. Um, like I say, it's ironic that in a sense we're being punished from a marketing standpoint because they expect us to come closer to average. Any additional questions? I will say one thing I I I did so last year we had the 12 and a half% the other two were 53 and 57. Even with this increase, our two-year increase over two years is about 49%. So, even our two-year increase is better than what number two and number three would have been last year. Perfect. Thank you, Dr. Seag. Okay, next. Is that you, Dr. D? Yeah. I want to talk about job descriptions again.
069I'm excited. So, actually, let me give you a little background. Uh this is for sports marketing video production manager and we are in August we will come to the end of a three-year contractor agreement with LTN Global and so um it's our sports marketing. So initially it was Niles Media. I think I have that right. Um and so we have an individual that works through LTN with our sports marketing program right now. And so we believe that um after speaking with our sports marketing staff members that they are good to go. Um the piece that because we were thinking about dissolving it fully. Um the piece that we have with that is um they did 30 uh es ESPN productions for the year. Um but the rest of that our own um sports marketing teams
070have been broadcasting live through Facebook. Um give you a little more background. when it was launched, um, they had a studio that was at the hub at HT at Hillyard Tax Center. And as we've evolved, all of our schools now have what I call a studio. So, they broadcast right out of their own home base. And so, um, we felt like this position, um, our staff still need more of the technician side. Um, but we thought that we could hire somebody at a little lower rate than what we're paying now, as well as hopefully support our communications department. So primary would be sports marketing their primary role and then a secondary role would be within our communications department. Ask me any questions. So we pay this company. We do. And then but so the cost
071savings is going to come in that we're going to be able to employ some someone cheaper than that agreement. I I would say yes, we would be able to. Can we see those numbers before we approve them or when we approve them or just ask estimation about the numbers now? Like how much are we paying? We pay $85,000. Can you repeat that? I'm sorry. $85,000. Oh, so it's going to be a savings. Well, I mean, unless the person is employed at like 80,000 like Sure. Where would they fall on the schedule? Uh well, we talked about that there would be on the support salary schedule at a at a ninemonth uh contract. Um actually Dr. McInness and I just talked a little bit. That would be something once communication comes in. It could be an
072extended contract to 10 months. I don't that would be up to you guys to make that decision. So we're going to be helping the communication department too as well. Are you adding that to this to this as well? That would that would be an additional role than what they currently do. Now, right now, they just support all of our three high schools. There is a line in there about the communications department though. Yeah. And I was think it's in the purpose statement and I was after having the other discussion, we can definitely add that to the essential job functions as well if that would highlight it more. else. The only big difference would be not having those ESPN3 games, which we did get a usage report on that. I don't believe there's many people watching
073our kids on ESPN 3. Most of it is through Facebook Live. Um, and they and you can all you have that option and some cases some have huddle now as well. So, you have a couple platforms that one can watch games if they would choose. Um, are there any additional questions? Thank you, Dr. Thank you. Okay. Next, Dr. Edgar. Okay. Um, in the foundation bylaws, it states that, uh, a board of education member um, needs to be appointed to the St. public school foundation and your appointment was uh Rick Garing and so uh the board of education at the next meeting will need to nominate somebody and approve that person to be part of the foundation and I would entertain any questions you might have in regards to that. Can we get an overview about
074the foundation? So um I've been obviously been part of the foundation since my Since I was hired as superintendent of schools, I go they have monthly meetings and um they have uh several activities uh throughout the year that is funded by uh the foundation in itself. I have had conversations with Julie Cobb over the last eight weeks in regards to uh bigger and better from the foundation and reached out to some of my colleagues um in the suburban Kansas City area to kind of find out what they do uh for their foundations and you know and it's all over the place you talk to Smithville I mean a lot of it goes toward their activities facilities and those types of things. Um there were a couple of good um things going on out there right
075now in regards to mental health where their foundation is really assisting with some of the mental health needs that school districts need. And so I provided her with that information. But as far as the foundation in itself, it's standalone. Um it's not part of the St. Joe public school district. And so we do not run it. There is a governing board where I do that there's one uh board of education member and then also two teachers. So how does so the position is not so we don't govern it. We appoint the superintendent holds a seat. We appoint a board member to a seat and then but they're and so we're hands off with other than that form but then they're in noise and then we have a financial agreement with them like how does how
076does the finances how do the finances work? So um they send us a monthly check for her for the salary of that person. So the foundation so we pay We pay the employee and um they they reimburse us. They reimburse us for salary and fringe. Yep. And then space, Wi-Fi, supplies. How does that work? Uh all of those are funded by the foundation. And why don't they just employ their own person? Well, they do. They just needed a space. And so I disagreed. I I agree. No, I mean why are why are we why are we um facilitating the payroll benefits benefits? So we pay we pay we provide the benefits. Yes. So we so we do have a financial Yes. That seems no no they can get the benefits by from being in the
077same school district. They reimburse us for the benefits as well. But my issue with that is that then if there's I mean there's some financial risk to us there if that person is taking those benefits and then we just got done talking about stop-loss and things like that. If you have a a a very expensive event, then that's going to affect our rates potentially. And I'll be honest with you, there was a lot of discussion that was vetted by the by ed counsel whenever we went through this because I had the same types of questions in the very beginning. Um, but I don't know. Yes, to answer your question, yes, you would have some risk to that. I'm looking at the bylaws. Um, uh, and Okay. So, do people um Can like people in the
078community just kind of contacted the board in order to give like a nomination to like appoint people to the board? because I'm looking and it says a member of our board and admin um teacher representatives and then it says additionals are chosen from the general public. That's true. Yes. And there's probably I think there's probably 17 members. We don't have any. Is there an application process? Is it listed online? Is anyone the school district. I mean, I just don't know anything about the foundation. So, and we have nothing to do with that. So, I as far So, we do the benefits. Are they also eligible for retirement? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They have to be. Yeah. So, that doesn't seem But we're reimbured for that as well, right? But that just doesn't seem to me. I
079mean, I I think I could get along with the and with the, you know, officing out of noise, like, okay, you have like close access, you're going to be reimbursed for space, those types of things. But the insurance seems, especially if we only have two seats, it seems like they're that's a little messy. But if I'm the only one concerned, no. And and what I what I could do if you could get those uh the questions that you're having in writing and I I'll get them all answered for you. I apologize that I was kind of No, no, no. You I just wanted to one make sure that we filled that spot and then two um I just didn't understand how the funding worked and again I just think it's um not very clean. And
080then either we shouldn't do that with the benefits with the retirement and the benefits. We either shouldn't do that or we should have more seats on the board. If we have somebody listed on our salary schedule, we're I think we have required to have Yes. And that's what why is she listed? They're listed on our salary schedule. We can't pay anybody who's not on a salary schedule. So we have superend. Are we Am I Are you getting what I'm what I'm saying? It just seems very messy like we only have two people on the board that governs what happens but we're taking the majority of the responsibility. Yeah. And again to me there's there's two options to clean that up. either it's a foundation and they support us and we have two seats and that's
081fine or you take our benefits and the the public dollar retirement um which I I get reimbursements and whatnot but it's a benefit um and we get more seats and I I really need to probably have go back and have that conversation with Rachel again. It was between Dr. Vanzal and I it actually happened on my the beginning conversations was on his time uh with Ben Bird and um I remember those conversations that I had with Rachel, but I don't I don't remember exactly. I I'm pretty sure it's clean and there's a reason why the contract is set up the way it is, but I understand what your questions are and I'll get them get them answered. I mean, I bet it is clean, you know, but it just kind of looks a little muddy.
082Well, or maybe we're just not I guess well I don't think it's clean educated on the facts. I bet what's legal isn't always right appropriate. What do you guys think about this? I'm just looking at what their purpose is and their purpose is really their sole purpose on here is to provide support for our district. I mean that's their whole goal, right? They don't do anything with anybody else. So, I think it's a lovely benefit for our district. And if it's only costing us the teacher retirement long-term or the potential of somebody using more of our insurance, I still think we're money ahead then. And and I I think that's fine. If we think it's a a financial um gain, that's fine. But I think we should have more oversight in exchange for that. two
083seats compared to the investment that we're making. But we have more than two seats because there's teachers on there too. So the board of education representative the administration representative and then teachers. Yeah. So I'm talking about this the board of education like we're the ones approving the insurance. We're improving the salary schedule. We're approving stop-loss insurance. We're we're we we have the fiduciary responsibility. So I think we should have more oversight on what happens on the foundation in exchange. Did you say had to see last year? He did. Were you on this as well? Did you say how often do they meet? Uh once a month. Um and it's usually at 3:30 in the afternoon on a Wednesday. Okay. I'm sure part of it is is and I'll just be honest with you, I haven't
084I'm not going to sit here and act like I have. I haven't been to a meeting in probably five or six months. I got to believe part of it is to help facilitate payroll for them so they don't have to have a to generate payroll. It was all recruitment tool for them. Yeah. Um I'll send the email. Do we also get like um are we a are we able to look at like copies of the agendas, meeting minutes, things like that, too? Yeah. Okay. Well, they should be public, aren't they? Yeah. Okay. I don't think those don't have to be public. I think they are public. I mean, I get we they're not on the You're on the board. You're not That's what I'm saying. Like they're not Sunshine Law. They're not okay. Anything like
085that now. Um I've asked for them a couple times and I mean I get them. I don't think they're like secret, but they're not publicly. Well, and I'll be honest with you, we didn't have any board representation until Rick just did them. What was it six months ago? Yeah, maybe it's something where the board needs to have some sort of report from that person that is representing. That's what I was thinking. and then you would know what's happening based on the person who got they did good things, really good things. Are there any additional questions? So, and this is and I'll include this in my email. So, Gabe, you're still on on that board until the end of the month, and I know we'll appoint someone in a couple weeks, but could you bring up
086um at the tribute to teachers, including volunteers and retirees back in the celebration? I don't believe that happened at the last one. We we we could and I'll be honest with you, we as a school district took the the uh retirees out and made it a separate. I don't think you've been so but we've we've done a separate retiree event before. No, we did it at the Metropolitan just twice. Yeah, this is the second time and we asked for that to be taken away from the tribute to teachers uh because we felt like the retirees were not getting the uh recognition specific recognition, you know. Well, we I mean we could. Yes. I mean, I don't think they would have a problem putting them back in there, but that wasn't a foundation issue. That was
087us asking them to uh pull that out. So, where do the volunteers? They still are tribute to teachers, right? They didn't do it. We still have volunteer. They didn't do it this year. They didn't do it this year. Okay. I didn't know that. Just two cents. Okay. Yeah. I'll find out. Okay. also you long range plan. Oh, okay. All right. Long range plan. I sent you a document this afternoon uh late morning and apologize not getting this out earlier, but uh we did not meet till this morning at 8:00 um to uh set things firm. So, if you see uh as we've talked the whole time, you know, we feel like administratively we're a two high school model. Um, one of the questions that we had or one of the uh things that kept getting
088brought up was what do we want three middle schools to feed those two high schools or do we want four middle schools? And um so as of today, we had decided that uh we will go with the four middle school model. And please understand that this stuff can be tweaked along the way. It's just uh we wanted to get a plan out there in front of you. And let me kind of advance it a little bit. on the 23rd, you will have a timeline that will be specific to exactly what we're talking about today plus um putting a new high school on the ballot sometime in the future. And so um I just wanted to get that out in front of you so you would understand that. So if you look at the two high
089school model um it does not change uh from what we had said in uh plan B. Uh you have Central High School uh which will be fed by Truman and Benton and you have Lafayette High School which will be fed by Rubidu and Bod. Um the closures or the repurposes uh you have Hyde Elementary, Picket Elementary will both be closures and Persing Elementary would be repurposed to an early learning center. Uh the population model, I'm not going to read that uh to you verbatim, but um it did drive some numbers. I know last time I reported we were looking at 1150 and 1750. You can see that Central has uh grown a little bit from that number. We feel like um we do need to keep Lafayette as close to,00 or,50 as we can. Uh
090there are a lot more kids um down below. So whenever you look at this when I presented the information to you last time I was looking at the senior class you know I was looking at the high the current high school. Now this was built as a feeder system and some of those classes are a little bit larger that are down below which is driving this number um to be a little bit larger than what we reported before. So I wanted to kind of explain that. So if you look at the elementary um or on the second page it has the elementary totals. Uh you have 512, 435 at Coleman, 424 at Edison, 366 at Ellison, 387 at Field, which Field um if we would have went with model A, Field would have been one
091that uh was going to be repurposed and we have to use it as an elementary school now. Ozia 478, Lindberg 500, Oak Grove 612, Parkway 473, SCA 513, and Spring Garden 552. And I think that really the only one that I see a a big problem, not a big problem, just uh I had a question about specifically this morning was skate at 5:13. And um I think we can uh move students around and make Spring Garden a little bit larger if we needed to. And then Bod at 306, Rubidu at 265, Trimman at 353, and Benton at 653. and Miss Williams and I had a discussion before the meeting started and she asked about Edison going to Bodie rather than Truman. And I don't see, you know, that's definitely a number that we can run.
092What you would have to do to take a look at that, you would subtract the 64 sixth graders from Edison um from Truman and then add those to Bodie. So those numbers would grow at BOD. We obviously have plenty of capacity to do that because right now we have 485 students approximately voting. The problem is is that changes which high school though. Yeah. Yeah. I mean so you're shifting some numbers there a little bit. You'd be shifting 64 kids and that would be that would be Lafayette, right? And we're a little bit low at Lafayette right now at 11:01. 240 kids. This is also without this is also without any consideration for Hillyard. Like do we need to factor that in at the high school level? Yes, that's a good point. And and actually um
093it's kind of twofold. It it um Hillyard is obviously one conversation that we had. Uh partnerships with Missouri Western is another um conversation that we had. So a lot of these kids will be pulled out of these buildings. at the high school level or at the high school level. Okay. And so at the junior senior level and so that would free up a little bit of that space and so those conversations did happen. So these these are going to be the max. You're never going to have 111 kids in Lafayette at one time and you're never going to have 1895. Can you take our attendance rate? Yeah. I mean, just take that into consideration in your So, can you add can you bring that back at the next meeting of of can you bring those
094numbers potentially what they would look like? You see what I'm saying? Like if you So, how many kids are pulled out right now at certain times of the day? Yeah. To give a you know, so those are going to be the the max every kid comes every single day. Yeah. Amount. if you can look at roughly how many kids are not going to be there because of whatever. Yeah. Um my other question is so I would assume based on how we've been doing this for the last I don't know feels like a decade. You have boundaries drawn up for this. You have to Okay. So can we get those and then everybody can on the 23rd we'll get the boundaries. We can do we can do that. I mean they won't be listen I get
095you. I I understand they're the current boundaries right now, aren't they? No, no, no. They're not with that boundaries. Okay. And then I have as he's coming up, I have one more question. So, well, I have a couple more, but um uh uh boundaries. Oh, middle school. So, this would put all the middle schools to six through eight or seven and eight. It's still 78. No, not still. Still 78 from plan A. It's going to be 78. Yeah. Okay. So, both plans were 78 middle school. Okay. Yeah. So, on the boundaries, these are drawn to drive numbers like how many kids we need in each building, right? So, after this was approved and finalized, the next step is to go through and divide them up. So, we keep neighborhoods together as we're dividing. Right. So
096the the fear is if I publish that model, it's not going to look like what it will be after I refine them. By like how much? Some could be quite a bit cuz like right now um the Ellison numbers just go into the middle of the city just to get the numbers right. But when we do it, I'll take chunks off of the side like off of oak and off of uh scaith in order to fill from that area. So that goes to my that goes to my next question is to me before I would vote on anything, I would want to see what our demographics look like, more specifically our free and reduced lunch numbers. Um, and I know we talked about that a little bit to some degree or we were going to
097I don't remember. That's that's that's actually easy to round. We Yeah, we can do that easy. Yeah, we'll do that like we did before when we did. That's what I was we provide that. But wouldn't you have to have the finalized boundaries? Well, that's what I mean. Yeah. When we once we finalize boundaries, we can provide that data with it. Okay. Right. So, once we get it get it closer to a final thing. Okay. So once we move everything, get it divided so neighborhoods are sticking together and we're not traveling quite as far to travel as little as possible. Okay. Then we'll know we can pull that those numbers for those kids and and have all of that data as well. Okay. And then my next question, last one I think. Um would the plan
098here then because our initial plan included um moving Persing to an early learning center, would that be a part of this plan as well? Yes. Just want to make sure we're all on the same page. Okay. And I want to clarify go back to that on that Edison thing. Yeah. Because that I actually spoke wrong to that. So I want to make sure that I clarify that that's probably not a possibility, Latan. And the reason is that would shift over 200 240. Yeah. 240 kids to I realized it after Jake said it. Yeah. I didn't see it either when we were first time. So it would really need to be what this says which because originally we had Edison going that way but then that put Lafayette at like 1350 close to 1400 where we
099know that I get your explanation now. Yeah. I appreciate you trying though. Thank you. Yeah. Well, and if your only other options are Coleman, I mean, and I' I've heard the response of like Edison's so close, but your next closest is going to be Coleman and Oak Grove, and that makes even less sense. I I have a question. Um, I'm just curious why the decision to close pick it as opposed and I'm just curious Bessie Ellison because of the cost to get kids to Bessie Ellison considering so pickets max 280. Okay. So it's a small small school. Okay. Yeah. That's the really the only reason because I know a lot of kids go to pick it because of it being all on one level. So do we foresee maybe some of those kids then going
100to vessel that's all on one levelish sort of but not really. Yeah that that's part of the next steps is getting with care on all of those kids and seeing what we need to do with them if we can get them in buildings closer to home and integrated or what we need to do with those kids. Yeah, this this model is based purely on address. Okay. Yeah. Just so we can get kids shifted and get the preliminary, hey, this is the direction we need to go and then we can go back and refine and because is there any other school in the district that's all on one level? No. Nope. Well, Oak Lake. So, Oak. Okay. Will there be in the initial plan um or plan A, I guess, if that's what we're calling it?
101There was um considerations of using repurposed buildings for a welcome center and a gifted center. Is that has that come up? You know, we really haven't um we really haven't elaborated too much on those conversations, but obviously something that probably needs to be done. I think well and I just think if you know plan A had so many great things in it and it wasn't just a loss of a new high school to me the new high school was cool but there were so many other things and the welcome center and the gifted center um the new early learning center like those were those in themselves were big would have been big wins. So I think if we can salvage some of those positives that would be really nice. Well, we've really talked about um
102a lot of we've had a lot of conversation in regards to picket being a building that we would like to utilize. We just need to figure out exactly what that looks like. So, I would venture to say that Pickicket's probably going to be something that we we will use. We just don't know exactly how. How many kidsish like an estimate are at Webster? 58. Okay. Okay. Because in my brain I'm thinking now that's not including the whole wing that's special programs, right? That's kind of and I don't expect just pop that number off the top of your head. But when I'm thinking about age of buildings and the age of Webster as opposed to the age of picket and the number of kids at Webster would leave in my mind still space to do a
103welcome center or something else and maybe we don't utilize Webster anymore and that's purely a question and a thought. When you say welcome center, are we talking newcomer center? That's all right. I just want to make sure I'm clear. Yeah. And I and I think that thing that you have to look at too and Cara could answer this specifically but if you look at the numbers that are in Oak Grove it's 613 and that's residential students only and right now I bet we don't have 400 residential students do we so those programs are going to have to go someplace you see what I'm saying I mean there's a lot of there's a lot of factors that are going to play into this decision I I'd venture to how many how many would you guess are
104residential now of grow residents. Well, we've got 13 classrooms that are special. Yeah. So, probably 400. So, then I have questions for you. So, I know you said they did the walkthrough of the high school Lafayette. Did they happen to answer? I know we're already overburdened on technology like they're using extension cord. What is that going to do with all these extra kids coming in there? Do they what what do you mean over tech? Don't they have to use like like the electronics they have to use a lot of extension cords and electrical's all been upgraded and everything? I mean with all the HVAC and everything that we've done there shouldn't be electrical issues at those buildings. Okay. And then the parking as well. That's going to be an issue. Um that's something that uh
105to be honest with you, I think DLR will speak specific specifically to that. Okay. That's probably the biggest concern, right? Ashley, I mentioned the cafeteria. Concerned about the cafeteria because I know they have three lunch shift. As long as we keep Yeah. As long as we keep the number at at at this like we're talking about the cafeteria is not as big of a deal and really 11 if we're talking 1100 parking becomes less of a deal too. It still still is a concern. Um and you mentioned that you guys met this earlier this morning and that includes like old admin team and the new admin team and everybody's on board with this plan. Everybody and was the transportation not everybody's on board with the 68 and 78 but everybody's on board with the two
106high school model. Okay. What about transportation? Has that all been figured out too? I think transportation will take care of itself. I mean it's not will be drawn differently. That's I hear I hear that out there once a while that Kids are going to be on a bus for two hours. Kids are not I mean routes will be drawn differently. So routes lengths, number of minutes, they're going to be similar. So yeah, if somebody's looking at the routes that are out there advertised today, then sure, there's going to be issues, but that's the bus company's job is to draw the routes as we build the feeder patterns. So they're going to draw redraw those routes and it will nobody will be on a bus over and out. Other school districts have just as far apart
107as we have, right? Yeah. And they don't have kids on buses. The only thing I'm just trying to wrap my head around and maybe you guys can explain it to me because I know a lot of people have the same question is why we picked two three miles apart space. Three like central and Lafayette. They're only Oh, for space. Okay. I Yeah, it was capacity. Okay. bitten didn't have near the capacity that Lafayette has. I mean, that that really is what that's what it's all about. And do we still have that that one pager that we had um with the when we were going through the bond issue for it was page 28 forformational purposes only of uh option 19. And yes, we still have that, but it's it's obviously going to look different now.
108Well, but that was a nice document to us a document too as well and it had like a lot of information. The one that you used whenever you did the presentation. Yeah. Yeah. And I think that was on there and that was a nice one to show the capacities like you just you can't get a copy of that. Of the previous one. Sure. But you want to change to what this model's I'm I don't need it change. I mean, what I was saying more specifically is just that it it shows you where what our current enrollment is at those buildings versus the the max capacity, which I know is not always I get it. Um, but I think that was helpful to see you can't you can only use the space that you have. What's
109the current enrollment? Um, So this will stay as a middle school. It'll stay stay at 650. It'll be very similar to the number of students that they have right now. And those students are primarily coming from Spring Garden right now. Yeah. Uh Spring Garden all over. See, we have open enrollment. So yeah, some from Bodie. They ended at 6:35. Thanks. But yes, to answer your question, Tom, the feeder middle school for Benton is Spring Garden. And what's the what's the capacity? What is the capacity of this? Uh was 8.90, I believe, is was the number. 999. Oh, 990. I'm sorry. 990. When we say um plan A, is there a plan? Are we discussing options with plan B? Is there a plan B? We're working. You said that right now. You said that this is
110plan 19, but 19. I mean, I feel like that we um you know, we have a change in our primary direction and now we have the opportunity to re-evaluate a little bit and make sure is that is that still what the community is telling us in terms of in terms of the right solution for our community? And um and it seems to me like that we we need to be taking a look at um an an additional plan um and see and see is this the only plan that would work or are there other plans that would would work and um what's going to be the best for our community. Do they look at other options besides just what we have here? Do we have more than or was this just it what they looked
111at? So, I think that this goes back to the the problem and this is this is the problem uh with annual elections is that we weren't all here through all parts of this which is no one's fault except for Tony Luke. Um but we started with vision forward. We built off vision forward and we went into the committees and we went through all of the data with the committees. Um, and then we did the first version and got to whatever version we ended up with. So, you know, I mean, we can start this process all over again, but it seems like we keep going back and starting over expecting different results when the result stays the same. We don't have the staff to offer similar course offerings. we don't have this, you know, and that
112was before we had um a nationwide and statewide teacher shortage. So, I I I get your questions and I respect them very much. Um, but we've we've it seems like we've already kind of settled this discussion about we have to go to a two school model to be able to provide adequate educational instruction. And I hear that. I I'm guess and I and I am late to the game, so I apologize for that. Nor am I trying. We'll catch you up. What's that? It's okay. We'll catch you up in our meeting. And I think it would be helpful if on the 30th if we had some of the like if we went back through and said, "Okay, here's what happened with Vision Forward. Here's here's what happened." I know that you're familiar with that. Here's
113what happened with Vision Forward. From there, here's what happened at the board level with the administration. Here's everything that we went through. I think one of the things that Jake had put together at one point, I think this was when we were still doing the committees, when you look at the saturation of the students, it's all, you know, we're all kind of in the middle to the west side of town, but then our buildings are all kind of like down the middle, too. So then you have the skate picket issue. Um so maybe if on the 30th we could kind of start over from the beginning and do a recap. I mean it's a little bit of time in the afternoon about like an hour or so that we can go over everything then. And
114then proposition two it doesn't look like it's on the the website any longer. I guess I guess what I my question is um and again it's it's a question and I'm is is we we have to think that a new school is still on the table and um that it's it's something that um our district needs our our our district wants and our community wants and needs. Although although although somehow we didn't um you know somehow um and I I'm not putting any blame at all somehow that's not what the result of the issue became but but should are there other alternatives to consider on the two high school models. Should, and I say this, and I'm a little hesitant to say anything. It almost sounds like brainstorming, but should we say um the two
115high school models are are Benton at Central and we built a new high school to to the um Northeast. The capacity is not there, Tom. You can't fit You can't fit those kids. The capacity is not there to put students in bed central. I think that's the only reason. Well, I mean we're we're within 100 of what the capacity we're saying here 990 to,00 110 but then you where do you put those other the 100 kids becomes a lot. Yeah, I think we need but I think we need that document back. So like I said I'm on the community page right now where we have Prop S, Prop St. school of prop read and for some reason prop 2 the most recent one is not up there any longer but that had some really great
116documents on there that would explain how you don't really have any other options that's than central and Lafayette or if you did central and benton you'd have to be very creative they look at bitten and hide since we're closing hide anyways you know we originally had talked about uh a campus model there. It just with the there was a lunchroom issue, there was gym issue. Um, one thing that you would have to do, you would have to you'd have to spend a lot of money, you know, to get to that point. You'd have I'm not going to tell you there were never conversations because there were but and and all I'm saying is I think we need to also keep in mind we got to leap frog ahead and say I I'm not I'm saying
117this like I'm more sure of it. I'm not. But that you know how our community and where are we going to put are we going to put a new school as we modernize our facility where we're going to put that first new school we do this with Lafayette and Central then where do you put the new school I I to I totally understand what you're saying and we talk about this all the time this is not ideal okay I'm not telling you what the plan that we're putting together is an ideal situation what I'm telling you is the plan that we're putting together has to be done from a staffing standpoint and if it's not, you're going to be in trouble. Uh we met at 11:30 today. Um six of us, we have a staffing
118issue right now, but if we could have combined those high schools and utilize some of that staff to uh fill the uh issues or the voids that we have, we're going to be in a much better place. Well, the problem is like it's always a plan and we're almost there, almost going to implement it and then we stop and then we talk and we talk and we talk until the next election of new board members and then we go back and then we talk and we talk and we never implement anything and then in the end it ends up even worse and at the end of everything the kids are going to suffer and so we it's at we're not able to keep on as we are like our luxury period is over with and
119I do completely understand like like a new school is needed in the future only I'm afraid of hesitating on a plan now until we are able you know to get there well and I think that that's one thing that the timeline will explain to you And uh DLR is watching this conversation right now to help them build that timeline. Watching this conversation, but what um you kind of you kind of have to look at it as a phased approach. Administratively, we all agree that you know the new high school is where you want to go. And the fix with Lafayette and Central, that's not a permanent fix. I mean, that's not going to take you that's not going to take you into the future. But so I really it's I really believe that the timing
120of everything and once they put that timeline together I think after the 23rd you'll kind of have a vision as to what that's showing you. Well and I think what she was getting ready to say that it is a permit fix if it doesn't let's hope it does but if it doesn't pass again I mean this is where we're going to be. Yeah. And is it ideal? Are you going to change the education op um you know the is it moving everything into 21st century? No. But it is going to put us in a place to where from a staffing standpoint we can be more comfortable to offer staffing a better education standpoint too. Yeah. I think I but again I don't and we I we talk we we keep talking about the high schools
121but this is much more than just about the high schools. You know what I mean? Like I think we get we get caught up in the discussion about we need a new high school, we need absolutely but more so we need staff and we have staff but we don't have we don't have them set up in a way that's best for kids. We have four high four middle schools but they're not set up in a way that's best for kids. You cannot you cannot argue that what we do at Cardon Park and at other schools where we send you know you we send cohorts to all four middle schools that's not what's best for kids. So I just would caution everyone from getting to the conversation going straight to the shiny new thing of the
122high school a a new high school when there's so many other things that we can do to make things better. Persing as an early learning center, a newcomer center, a gifted center, cleaning up some of these boundaries. I mean, all of those things if we don't do something, those problems persist. Well, and I agree with you and that's why I said I don't think you guys are stepping going back too far. I think you guys are heading in the right direction. The feeder patterns needed fixed a long time ago. I just think, and of course, I know this is not the popular opinion. I just think two high schools three miles apart isn't ideal. But the rest of it I think is great. Two high schools 100 years old is not ideal. I mean not
123and I think I to your point of we we can't whether it's 6 78 or 7th. I I get it. There's a lot of argument either way. But we're not in a position that we can shoot for perfection and ignore progress. Like we can't let perfection get in the way of of progress. I agree with that, by the way. Thanks. Yeah, I mean I do agree with that and I and I'm I know I'm throwing a wrench in there. No, absolutely not. I mean I by saying that but my my feeling is and I and not a but and my feeling is um we just can't ignore the fact that we can't we can't be in this place five years from now. I mean we can't be looking at a one-year plan because if we
124if we had passed the bond and had a thing we'd have figured out how to do the staffing until we had that building built. Everybody realizes that, right? We kept the same schools and we figure out how to do staffing until it was built. And so there's ability to make a place, right? Well, and we got to be thinking about what's we got to be thinking about how do we get over the hump, not just for I agree about making it better. I 100% agree with that. And I agree with you, but we got we got to make we got to look down and say we can't do a thing for a year and honestly end up jerking people around. And I don't mean I don't mean like a funny word with that, but moving
125people all over the place and then saying come back to the community. But now what we think we want to do is this. Um it's that that's going to send the next signal. And I realize there's already the chance to send the next signal by saying this doesn't pass, we're going to close bit, but we we've got we we have got to take a look as people on this board and I'm newly on it. We got to take a look at how do we how do we make a plan and present to our community a plan that says this is what we're going to look like in one year, three year, five year plan. 10 years, 15 years. But I think even but again we get caught up in that the board in three years
126you have an entirely different board and historically you have an entirely different administration. So I I get what I I get what you're saying. kind of argued to that point and I and we got here. I wouldn't have a problem if we put a new school on the bond issue every year. What? That's fine. But at at the same time to we have to be going in parallel directions. We have to help the kids and the staff by going to all these new things, not just two high schools. fixing the middle school uh makeup or the composition, how we're doing middle schools, how we're doing another early learning center. If you want to talk about kids being on a bus too long, that's a problem and that's something that we can fix. Um but we
127can also be talking about, okay, we know that the plan is also to get a new high school, right? But but one we can control and one we cannot. Either or. One we can control and one we can't. Good. Mike, you've been really quiet. What's up? I have. Um, you know, I just add that I I think I think there's opportunity. You know, the the the board and administration got to get on the same page because um, you know, right now I've been pretty satisfied to to to to have you guys come back as an administration and make a recommendation. You know, generally speaking, all these things we've continued to talk about, uh, staffing to high school model, uh, more equitable offerings, straighten out the feeder pattern, straighten out the middle school model, all that
128stuff. I think we're in agreement on, but we lose it when we start talking about execution. And I don't think that all board members are even on the same page as all all administrators. And um, we got to we got to get there somehow. So, I've been pretty happy to hear you guys' recommendation and it's good, but somehow we've got to find a way all of us together to influence and say what is that plan? Um the other thing is um a failure I think on all of our parts, administration and board and that is um we we've never really made that compelling data-driven argument that we are in trouble financially if we continue to stay status quo. We've asked for it. We we you know I believe it in my heart, right? There's just
129a lot of things out there in efficiency wise and maintenance-wise on these buildings that that tells me that's right. But we've never really presented the public with that that data and that projection that says, "Look, we stay what we're doing. Here's what our budget looks like in two years or five years, and it's ugly." I would I mean my response to that would be at least when I went into this long range plan and and what we were doing to me finances was not a driving factor. I mean I know that it's sustainability and how we're we're trying to hire so many staff across so many buildings. I get that. But to me it was less about the financial implications and more about test scores and staffing and recruitment. Um, and like I said, it
130that one pager I think made a compelling argument for a lot of different problems. And and that is that is the problem that our district has is we don't have one glaring problem. We have a bevy of them. And again, it's because we we started on one plan and we did a couple things. We said, "Oh, let's do a six six seven eight. Well, let's do seven eight." We didn't never fix it. We never come back and like put it fully into implementation. So the the financial part was never the the glaring issue. It was that one pager that was the glaring issue. Do you think it's an issue though? Maybe it's not that we don't have enough Oh, the financial part. Yeah. Well, I mean that's a state of public education in Missouri. Well,
131Mike, I I can tell you this. You can take a look at that last four or five years of budget. Yeah. And just look at salaries, right? That's where it's at, right? 70% of our budget. We haven't added staff. Think about that. You can see what's happened with salary and benefits over the last four or five years. And that's not because we've added staff. That trend is going to continue unless you reduce some staff. And the only way you reduce staff, you you can do it one of two ways. You can do it systemically like this as we look to more efficiently staff buildings because we're not efficiently staffed at our for example use the high school example. We're not efficiently staffed at three high schools nor are we able to staff it in a
132way that we're providing an equitable education. I think we've been very clear about that. And I don't like to bring this one up but you've got an operating levy in 2829 that comes up on sunset. I'm glad you said that because I was getting ready to but I didn't know because I will tell you that while it's my hope and my belief this community would continue to do that and it's my hope and belief at some point the noose that was put around the neck of this district by Dan Kogan. I'll say it. I'll say it. Oh, was he going to do fire me? I'm out of here. I'll say it by Dan Ken. That was his last gift on the way out to put an operating levy as a sunset. Okay. Nobody else in
133the state has an operating levy as a sunset. Okay. But if for whatever reason in 2829 you lose that 61 cents, you won't be cutting staff systemically, you'll be riffing because you won't be able to afford to pay teachers. And I can tell you if you have to riff that is very different than attrition. Attrition and losing staff in a sense that hey as people are retiring or moving on we don't fill a position because we've more efficiently staffed the buildings we have. Yes. So that so I agree that's the financial piece that I if if you need to hear that I I mean I I'll provide that. I I I love hearing from you every time, but it that I agree with that. But our community did say yes to teachers getting a raise.
134Absolutely. And and I anticipate that they'll say yes to carrying on the 61 cents in 2029. And that, you know, I think that's something that we we can't be in fear of. I think we've got to say and certainly I think a 100% of our folks say our teachers are inviable and and what we do to support them and continue to put them in a in a ma in a in a good place is got to be a key to our success probably even relative to a new building. And I'm simple minded enough that 157 million says well we want this but why don't you use it for this? Now, I'm not saying we shouldn't do it, but I'm saying I think that's the tension is how do we how do we go to the
135community and say these are different things. One is how do we operate? And two is we've got to we've got I I said this to Robert or somebody today. Sometime you got to buy a new car. Not if you can't get approved for a loan and you don't have cash. Well, and that that that's what we have got to though. We we've got to get to we've got to get together and u and I want to be a part of that. We've got to get together and and present a plan to our community, a plan for success for our district. And we got we've got to figure out how do we do that and how do we how do we learn from what we just heard? I I was I I hope the bond issue
136that failed. Um, so I'm not telling you I'm a magic bullet at all on this, but how do we how do we learn from that? Um, how do we say, "Okay, what adjustment do we need to make?" Because because they didn't accept this plan. Now, there's some that just didn't accept I don't want to pay any more property tax, but they they didn't accept this plan. Well, then we got to just say, "Well, then what we we've got to we've got to pause. Not long, but we've got to pause and say we got to re-evaluate the plan." Not redo it, just pivoting. We're just pivoting. So, so that we and so then when we come out of that, we say this is our plan. One year, three years. How many I guess my question is,
137how many different ways can you pivot when you only when you have this many kids and you have this many buildings, there's not many options available to you. I mean, I will tell you the second this email went out, I would say within five minutes, I had 10 text messages asking questions. What about this? What about this? I was I had not checked my email yet. I pulled up my email. I'm like, "What did they put in this email?" I was not shocked by anything you put in it because there's only so many ways that you can cut this pie. There's only so many buildings. We knew hide was never going to be an option. We knew Persing, we had already talked about it and repurposing it. Um, we've already talked about like we've already
138talked about this and we've There's only so many ways you can pivot. You you There's no there's not a lot of options. And the thing about it is a pause and do what? Nothing. No, I'm not saying until next April and then there's a new board election and then there are new people and their ideas are like let's pause and then we're just always pausing and we're never doing anything. I think that I think that you had a good idea about catching everyone up on the 30th. Yeah, there was there were so many documents that we went through when we had the facilities committee because there's lots of information that's just not known, right? And we haven't re we haven't revisited. And by not known for a year, I just mean, you know, if you're
139newer, you don't know it. And so maybe like after the information like is out, it will give you a larger picture of why. Like as you're like, let's pause and let's have a pivot and we're panicking like what do you mean? We we're on fire right now. And so we can do like a pivot while we're burning, but then we burn. They're just there to me. We've we've talked about all of the negative implications of not moving forward. So, there has to be a sense of urgency. I I think we agree on that. We have to go to two high schools. We only have certain capacities at those two high schools. I would I would be, like I said, I would be totally fine if this plan B is here's what we're going to do.
140Um, and we're going to run a new school bond issue every year. All right, get on. Um but but we have to do what we can control. Yeah. Well, I I don't want to I don't want to further the discussion just for my benefit, but I I think and I hate to use the word pause. I guess I think we are on an urgent timetable and that's relative to next April. I mean, there's just a practical part of that that says we've got to we've got to figure out, get together, create a winning plan for our community for next April. See, and I don't I I think to to me people need to know what's go our staff need to know what's going on in August. They need to have a general idea of what
141we're doing, where we're going. Um because they have to make decisions for their employment and they have to make decisions for their families. just like everybody else. And again, the buildings and the student population is not going to change. There's only so many things you can do based on the size and where everybody's located. There's not going to be this magical new information. Any other comments, questions at this time? You said DLR will be here. They'll be able to answer questions. They'll be here. They will be presenting on the 23rd and it'll be a timeline as in the new school will be part of that. I'll send it so I'll send an email. But can we get the documents? Yeah. From Prop 2 because that that one pager had um I think the night the
142best thing about it had current enrollment capacities and then that's when you can really see you don't have a lot of options. Okay. It'll be posted on Thank you. Thank you, Missy. Okay, moving on to policy. Are you guys looking at the policy reviewing? I know that there's been a couple of emails about some questions and some comments, everything like that anymore. Keep them coming. Um, are we doing good right now? Yeah. Perfect. Yeah, most of mine revolve around, hey, I understand it seems reasonable. Are we are we doing this? Yeah. So that's most of my Well, and then I thought it was kind of cool, you know, that you guys' lists were like almost alike in a lot of ways. Yeah. I tried not to duplicate you, but but I'm sure I did. It's
143all right. It just means it just makes more sense, you know? I mean, it just means that we're kind of like aligned in the thinking about the policies. And so, I thought that was a good thing. And Lata, I'm starting to keep a list as we go through this and I'm not ready to present it or anything, but that there are some I kind of have two things that you know there are number of committees that are required by policy that I'm not sure we're executing right so that'll be on our to-do list but maybe and then also just uh relevant tasks that are required by policy and and I just want to double check we're doing them and so I'm just going to continue that list as we as we're moving on as we're
144moving through this process and uh and so there you go maybe you guys will see something different than I did I thought that might be a good takeaway. Perfect. Anything else? You have a timeline on committees that you're thinking. Did you say committees? Timeline because one of the policies talked about an audit committee. We're going to It's actually on the list for the meeting on the 30th. Perfect. It's going to be all in the discussion. It's going to be an amazing Afternoon. Bring a pillow and a blanket. Snacks. All right. Anything else? Okay. All right. Next board meeting, June 23rd, 5:30. Uh, journ to executive session pursuant 61021. Close meeting. Close records for hiring, firing, discipline, promoting particular employees, and indivi individually identifiable personnel records. So move. I'll second. Ashley. Oh gosh. I'm sorry. Miss
145Lanny, yes. Mr. Richmond. Mr. Moore. Yes. Miss Chzn. Yes. Miss Williams. Yes. Miss Karns. Yes. I was busy taking notes, making sure I got first and second. Oh. All right. I don't know.