001I will call the meeting to order at 602 p.m. We will be calling a non-public session in accordance with chapter 91A32 I um for matters related to safety and security. And we will now open the floor for public input for 30 minutes starting at 602. And all right, so meeting minutes. Did anyone see anything? >> I did not. >> Becky, I just saw like a couple little things in your I don't know if you you saw now I can't remember cuz it was last week. >> Let's see. There's something. Oh, so this is not a big deal, but in the principal's report says Mary Kelly and Marty Kelly. And then >> Oh, yeah. In the first paragraph, reviewed the evaluation for the first pilot program, which I'm sure you said the name of it. Oh,
002the arts and letters. Arts and letters. Okay, >> I think that was it. Did you guys see anything? >> No. >> And I just looked at it again today. >> Okay. So, I will make a motion to approve the meeting minutes as amended. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I thank you. Okay. So, we'll go into our committee report. policy, Wendy, would have you for us. >> I did not attend that meeting. I wasn't feeling well and I asked Renee if she could kind of go through the stuff with us. >> Um, so these are revisions of current policies that are recommended for us to have. Um, I actually did the work on updating these. Um, pupil, we changed district provided pupil transportation form. It was like it was um bus safety or something
003like that. But because SAU16 has the vans and you guys agreed with theou with the co-op. So we elaborated on the district provided people transportation form went through that. There wasn't a whole lot of changes from the policy committee. Um it's pretty straightforward. Um so you see the previous one and then the new one. Um the physical and emotional well-being. Um this was updated. It we added the emotional and mental health um and the prevention intervention pieces. This memo this policy used to just really include the first top half and as a 306's and other legislation have been adopted and amended. We we added the physical and emotional well-being of students to um JLCK. So that was the addition piece. Um not a lot of discussion or changes um to this policy either from the
004policy committee. It was pretty straightforward. Um and JIC is student conduct. This also was um just revised a little bit. Trying to think of what the major revisions were. Um I think we we just updated it. Um display removal of students with disabilities. Um that's really was like the the major major changes. >> Yep. >> Um we added school board designates to the superintendent. Um that that's some of that language giving some of this um decision making or response to student behavior to the superintendent before it comes to the board. There was some add some clarifying language around that. People can always appeal the the superintendent's decision to the board, but we like to have it go through the superintendent first. Sure. >> So, that was those were the changes. >> Okay. >> They were
005revisions. They're not new policies. They're revisions of current policies. >> Okay. Excellent. >> Thank you. >> Great. Okay. So, I will make a motion to accept the following policy provisions E AE J IC JL CK and JIC. >> Second. All in favor? >> I >> Great. Okay. Any update for safety and security? >> Actually, I wanted to go into non-public to talk about a couple of things. >> Okay. >> All right. So, we'll go through and then we'll do that at the end. >> Do that at the end. Y Okay. >> Um, superintendent evaluation committee. No update there. >> Uh, general correspondence. >> General correspondence. We have had some right to knows >> that have happened that have taken some time and energy. >> Do we have a number of those Renee? How many right
006to knows we've had to do? >> Um there I think there were four in since our previous board meeting. >> Um some on the same issue so repetitive and we've already answered >> and some like kind of generic like whatever somebody has said to somebody else over the history of forever. >> Yeah. So okay. So that's been the correspondence when oftentimes the board is CCed on it or the board will be CCD on the superintendent. All right to know go directly to Dr. Chris Andriski. >> They sometimes will come to a board member sometimes come to me sometime to Molly but or or Becky actually and we just forward them to the superintendent who who is ensuring that we respond in a timely manner. Um I really think that's all the correspondence for the >>
007So just a clarif a clarifying question before we move on. So if one of our taxpayers says to us, "Well, those don't cost you any money. That's just our right." We say, "Oh, no. Everything costs money." >> Everything it both things are true, right? Both things can be true. It is their right and it does cost time and money when they ask for things that um we can filter. Our director of technology can run a filter pull in. Um we have to pay to have that information redacted for student information. Sometimes >> this did not happen the last four requests. Um but IEPs or so we do have to redact some of the right to know information that costs money. We do have we go through an attorney office to do that often if it's
008not something we can do. Um and then it's just sometimes it's my hours. Five >> that's what I was going Yeah. I was thinking of the numbers. >> Yeah. Is you know can spend me can cost me five hours or whatever to spend time going through. Becky will have to go through spend her time going through that. Molly, so that's where it's it's not a direct cost, but it's you're you're paying the superintendent's office or you're paying the billing principal >> to go through those things >> and you can't be doing anything else. >> You can't doing anything else. So that's where you think about how you quantify it, right? >> It would be really great if you could figure out a way to quantify it. >> That's additional work cuz then I have to
009log my hours. I mean, it's just something we we can think about like when a big right to know. It's definitely something we can we could sort of think about like here's all the information you needed cuz what we'll do is we'll collect it and we send it to Dr. Andriski who then like he might need some from me and might need something from Molly Becky. Send it all to Chris. He puts it all together and responds. So like this took me four hours or this took me three. But we don't we typically don't do it because we do it here and there, right? >> Like I have a meeting that ends early. I'll go in and start >> downloading emails. >> So, it's not I it's not really in one sitting. It's like 30
010minutes here, an hour here. I did it on Saturday. That kind of stuff. >> Yeah. >> Nothing's free. >> Thank you. >> Yep. >> Um, are those right to know all done or are you still working on them? >> I think they're all done. >> Okay. >> I I think they're all done. Everything's done. >> I received a few questions, but all the questions are answered. >> Okay. So we're not official right to knows. >> Okay. They were just response to right to knows. They inquired. Okay. Yep. Then we have officially respond. >> Okay. But just I like to have the facts. >> Yep. We responded to them all. >> Good. Thank you for that. >> Mhm. >> Okay. Um community news submission. Where? >> Um it's due this week. >> And guess I was
011wondering what do you guys think that you want me to put in? I mean it doesn't take me long to hammer it out, but should I talk about the election results? What we're going to do going forward given what we I mean I don't know what I should talk about. I'm going to say something about what happens at the polls obviously. When is it due? >> This week. >> End of the week. >> And then it comes out like in May. >> Yeah. She'll give me an extension if I need it. It doesn't take me long to write it. That That's what I do. But I need to think of something good. They've liked the last few that I've done. >> So if you think of something else, if not >> Steph, I'll just fly
012on my own. >> Which you are well capable of. >> I am. I am. And yeah. And it's all true. Yeah, >> it's all factual. >> Yeah. I mean, we didn't put anything about the election last time because it sort of didn't line up. Right. >> Well, I just I Right. Right. >> And there was a lot of stuff in there about the election anyhow. >> Yep. >> Yeah. So, maybe that would be a good thing to >> follow up. Oh, I'll give that. But I mean, I was wondering if there's some kind of message I could give like, you know, this is over. Can we now start to come together for a common mission? We want to take care of the kids and, you know, blah blah or something like that. Okay. >> Yeah.
013It's probably all for not, but I still have hope. >> Yes. >> Okay, great. Um, strategic planning committee. I have no update there. Um, and then All right, moving on to business and financials. >> Okay, great. I did pass the stack of manifests down. Yes. >> Um, I noticed some of them have one signature. I don't know who signed it, but um, she sent us my packet. This is my just >> she's she's just going through my stuff. I know. So when people go by my stuff. >> So if you want to just sign those and hand those back this way. >> Just going through my papers. >> Included in your board pack is a current year financial. I did note what the changes were. There was just a few changes. Um, and then tomorrow
014being the election, we'll be able to add the amount to be added to the trust after June 30th, but we'll need the vote to happen before we can officially populate the >> in favor of it. Y >> So, did anyone have any questions? >> I did. Um, I know I already emailed you some of these questions for information. I'm nervous um because I realize how much time the lawyer must be spending on the case that the same person is bringing >> um and has now motioned for reconsideration. So I understand that our yearly budget I looked it up is 4,000. Is that correct? >> That's correct. >> Does he answer the phone for that? So how much are we over? We have to be way overspending it because I know what lawyers charge. >> Sure.
015Yep. So can I that 4,000 is usually what we budget for to cover our deliberatives, right? That's what that amount is. >> Well, we've never had to have anything else. >> This is above that. Yeah. >> Yeah. So that 4,000 is to cover the deliberatives and a little bit of extra that might happen throughout the contingencies unknown. >> Mhm. >> Um so in regards to the one issue at hand, uh we received the January invoice which was $2,130 related to the one issue at hand. >> Mhm. Um, >> well, I mean, we can say what the issue is. Somebody is objecting to the fact that the citizens warrant article wasn't accepted because it was untimely um submitted. >> That's correct. >> That's that's the issue. So, that's what the court case has been about. >>
016Yes. And so, in regards to the court case, $2,130 was directly related to that. >> And then we have not received the February bill yet because the attorney's bill after the 10th of the next month. So, Tomorrow is March 10th, so they'll bill for February. >> Um, but I did call and they sent me a draft and everything on the draft was related to the court case and the month of February was $4,282. So that alone breached. >> So just one month, not and this doesn't have any mostly any of the motion to reconsider. >> No. Anything >> and that's going to cost the same amount because it's the same amount of work for a lawyer. So anything that happened after or March 1st or after is not included in these figures. >> So that
017amount is that just for Kensington or does that include East Kingston SAU? How how is that broken up? >> I believe it's just the Kings. >> You're kidding me. No, >> no, we pay our own like we nobody else is responsible for the legal for a district because we have privy to that attorney. >> Kingston has similar amounts. >> Has some more >> has similar amounts. So it would split it in half. And I I do have to >> that's our responsibility. >> Yeah. I I didn't pull the East Kingston numbers, but the bill that I did pull um was a bill to Kensington Elementary School. >> And so the deliberative costs will be on top of that. That doesn't include that. Okay. >> And so that that was included some of those costs were
018included in the bill as well. Um not the February stuff, but anything that happened in January, like they they do a re a pre-review of the warrants. Um, all of that was part of that. >> Okay. >> So, so the warrant, take a look, is within this. >> Yeah. Uh, well, not the numbers I just read. The numbers I just read are essentially court cases. >> Gotcha. Okay. >> All right. So, we're well over our budget. >> And and that's my next question. We're well over our budget in a year where there's um a tremendous amount of verbal concern about overspending the budget. How where are we going to take that from? You would have to take it from another line within the budget. >> So something that's going to impact us >> or children.
019Yes. >> Or children. >> Excellent. >> Because you cannot expend overexpend your bottom line. >> Obviously. I mean I Yeah. >> I I obviously So my question is Renee, you said we can't do this and I want to make sure it's true. We can't ask the court for our legal costs for somebody who's constantly doing something like that. >> We I said we haven't and I don't know if we can do it or not. >> Okay. >> Um and right now because it's in appeal, we haven't asked. So, it's one of those things like when it's finally said and done is that I'm saying is that something we want to go after? We haven't asked. Um, >> well, I think that's something because that's a legal strategy. I think that's something we should talk about
020in non-public when we go into non-public. >> Okay. >> But it's just I'm nervous because it seems like it's not stopping and I would hate to think that snowball legal amounts. It's not for something like a civil rights violation. It's not for something that might have merit, >> which we would probably say, you know what, that has merit. This is for something that's already been turned down for the courts. >> Well, there's not even like a financial implication for for what he what he >> and that's what that's what the judge said basically. >> Yeah. >> And so to put in perspective, the January bill that I referenced, the one that we did receive, the grand total was $3,330. $2,130 of that is related to this court case. >> And then um when I called
021to get the draft bill, again, it wasn't final. They're not going to have their bills finalized till after tomorrow. I believe all of that was related to the court case and that was over 4,000 alone. >> And that when you called they had not received the um request for reconsideration because our attorneys just wrote a response to that last week >> and that's what I said to her. >> Yeah. So there that will be additional. >> So give me a total rough. I know it's rough. What is give us not me listening. I just wanted give me a total about what we've spent on that one legal operation. That one only. >> So >> a rough total >> right there. >> For just January and February, it was $6,42. I don't know how many hours
022were spent in March, but I can tell you that every attorney is $300 per hour and the parallegal is $210 per hour. So, I'm not sure how many hours have been spent since March 1st on work, but we will be filled at that rate going forward. And just the two months in January and February was $6,412. >> Well, and I guess I'm sorry that we didn't know this before we set the budget because I would have said because of external forces that we can't control. We need more money in legal and that is going to take away from kids, >> right? And I'm sorry. >> Oh, so I would just like to say I mean I think next year we probably when we're talking we have to plan and say we don't know what's going
023to happen with illegal because of this history. >> The reason our line has always been so low I think at least since I've been here is we've never had anything happen like these things. Yeah. >> This is groundbreaking. >> All right. Good. So we I think ladies we need to pay attention to that going forward and say next year >> right >> we yeah we are going to bump up the budget because now we have to count legal fees in >> right >> and if this this person who's filed this wants us to pay his fees >> so then that's even more >> I think we have to be very cognizant of that >> unfortunately. >> Yep. Yep. That's a good point. >> Okay that's it. Thank you for giving me those numbers, Molly. But
024I I just I think it's something we have to watch because we don't know. >> Yeah. And it's good to get, you know, >> Well, and I mean, the town's bill at one point ran up over $100,000. And I don't want to be caught unawares. >> Yeah. >> Right. >> We'd have to take off a classroom and rent it like maybe to the si. >> Yeah. I don't know if we need it, but >> we could not do the audit, right? which is 9,000. >> Let's Let's think about that actually. Okay, good. Good one. All right. What else do we I I didn't have anything else that I was >> Yep. Any other thoughts on the budget? >> So, we'll have the results hopefully. Well, we will have the results tomorrow. Okay. Um and then
025I will be doing the MS22. So, after the vote, we have to do what's called the MS-22, which is budget that's actually voted. So, I'll probably email that over here to the front office and just ask you guys to swing by to sign it because you do have to sign it and then we have to scan it to the department. >> And just as long as you make sure you look at my schedule and say, "When is she gone?" Excellent. That's when I'm sending this stuff over. >> Yeah. And we do have like I think it's like 30 days to do it. So, >> I just think you're picking on me. >> Okay, great. Okay. Um and then next is our facilities update. >> Facilities update. We're not done yet. So, can I did ask
026you to put this on the um agenda, but my meeting with Brian Sans got moved a little bit. Um so, can we talk about it next month? I'm sorry. I meant to change that. He was gathering more information. Um so, we will be definitely be prepared to talk about it next month. Okay. >> He was very busy with a few other like emergencies. >> Um and then we our meeting just got pushed out and I think it's actually scheduled for tomorrow, but it has to be pushed out again. So we I will get that for you. I'm sorry. >> Oh, that's fine. Next next month. >> Well, you've had a little bit going on. >> I know. >> It's been like since from January to here has been rough. >> He's been very busy and
027I had every intention of getting you an update and it just has not been able to. >> And it's not Brian's fault. It really is my fault and he's just doing his job. >> Oh, good. We'll do that next month. >> Okay. >> Um Okay. Principal's report. >> Great. I get to talk about fun things like kids. Yay. >> Yay. Um, under academic excellence, I highlighted the fifth grade play. Um, sorry, excuse me. >> Same here. Yeah. >> Um, that they recently performed Red, White, and Revolutionary. Um, it was really a great night. I know we don't have anyone here with fifth graders in the house currently. Um, but I think um, not only was it um, a really unique way to um, learn about history, one of the really cool things is that we
028had a couple KES alumni um, from the high school who are big into theater come back um, and help our fifth graders with some of their stage presence and um, you know, really just work on those kinds of skills. Um, and it was it was a lot of fun for the kids to have a couple high schoolers um come and and help them with their play. So, >> and it was very well attended. >> It was very well. >> You couldn't find a parking space there. >> Yeah, >> that's great. >> Yeah. And the kids did great. Um, you know, we they've limited rehearsal time up on the stage cuz our stage is a temporary stage. It only kind of goes up the night before the performance. So, there really is not a lot of
029time to practice. And so, um, yeah, they they really did a great job. And um we had a a parent come in to help them with their sort of marketing for the program which is you can see the red, white, and revolutionary um >> piece that I included on there that was all designed by the students after working with her on having you visually market this with your flyer. So there was really just um such a nice combination of learning happening. >> Do they have permission to have their pictures publicized if I put those in the newsletter? All the kids >> um fifth I we're Yeah, I think we're all set in fifth grade. I can double check that for you, but I'm pretty sure >> because that would be great to put in one
030visuals. Yeah. Okay, good. >> Yeah, I can just double check that for you. Do a mark over one of them if it goes outside of school usage. >> Um then the second one that I wrote about was um belonging connection and just highlighted our bingo night. And I don't know if anybody was able to. Were you a bingo night this year? I don't remember if you were there or not. >> Also a you obviously didn't win anything. >> Yes, I did not win. But again, the the cafeteria was full, the multip was full. Um, students, former students, future students, friends, neighbors, aunties, uncles. I mean, it really just was the full gamut of the Kensington community that was there. Um, it's not a big money maker. I think PTO only made about $700, but that's
031not really the goal of the night. The goal of the night is to just um bring the community together. And if bingo is a game that all ages know how to play, Um, and so it was just it was a lot of fun. Um, and then under equity, I was highlighting um, restorative circles, which is something that we've brought into our fourth grade classroom this year. Uh, Mrs. Dangastino, Mrs. Escalan, our school council, and myself have been um, going to restorative circle um, sess or pract um, as a cohort with other SAU16 um, professionals. And so we chose to um launch this in our in our fourth grade classroom this year. And I'm really impressed with how how serious the kids are taking it in the sense that it's giving them in these smaller circles
032um a voice where they feel a lot more comfortable to share. Um I always draw the parallel when I'm leading a staff meeting and I ask a question and the whole staff just sort of sits there. But then if I say, "Okay, turn and talk to the person next to you or like at your table, talk about something." And even teachers will rather talk in a group of four or five than in a group of 20. And so I kind of draw that parallel with the kids, too. We have them broken down into much smaller circles to be able um to feel comfortable. Their voice is heard. Um and they're really they're being really honest with each other about how they're feeling, what they're thinking, how to solve problems. Um, so it's it's been um
033it's it's been really positive for the kids in there. Um, and they are starting to >> um almost want to set the agenda for the next circles. So they're talking about when we meet next week on Tuesday. So you know they're thinking about >> okay I know what I want to get out of this next week. So um you can see the shift that's happening in them too. So that's that's what it's about. The circles are for them. So >> is there a plan to to um bring it to the other grades as well or will it sort of >> So we do u some repair circles at other grade levels when there's conflict so it's more um targeted when there's certain situations. Um we haven't talked yet about expanding it to other grade levels.
034Um but that's certainly an option that we can talk about. It would require some additional professional development for other teachers to be able to lead that. Um, but that's definitely something we can talk about. Yeah. >> Cool. >> So, I'm going to put some of that stuff in the newsletter to talk about how great we are. >> Yeah. That's awesome. Good idea. >> Yeah. >> Because we are. >> We are. >> Because I I'm not lying. >> Very community focused. >> Yep. Good stuff. >> It's the center of the community. It always has been. >> Yeah. >> Thank you, Becky. Mhm. Um, any new business? >> I don't have any. >> Okay. >> Old business. People related matters. >> I don't have any people related matters. >> Nope. >> Okay. And then personnel food service.
035>> Um, Miss uh, Mrs. Plur continues to be on leave. We did um, communicate that to families before break. Um the SAU has been wonderful in helping us to plug some holes and so we've been able to um steal some time from some other food service employees from other schools which has been really helpful and again back to that community piece of everyone in SA16 trying to help each other out when when we're short staffed and um so that I've been really appreciative of um Rene's efforts and um you know the efforts of the SAU to help us to get us some extra hands um while she's out. Um also just letting the board know that we have interviews scheduled for our nursing position um since Heather is retiring at the end of the year.
036So we have that scheduled for Wednesday this week. We have um five candidates that we're interviewing on Wednesday. >> Wow. Good. >> Um another thing I wanted to note on the food service um we have um contracted with the co-op. This is the thing that's great about being part of SEU16, right? But you will see in future financials some bills that you're paying to the co-op just because it has they sent their staff down. We need to pay that staff's hourly rate cost. So, we will have to reimburse. We haven't um finalized the billing yet because that's they had to create sheets that they never had before. But I just I also wanted to know that that other districts have chipped in. They've sent skilled professionals to come make meals um for the kiddos here
037at at Kensington. We will you'll just see in future financials the fact that we're paying them. >> Um and the money um will come out of the local budget and we'll find it um under the food service line. But I did want to I did want to note that so when you see it in the future, you know why. >> Okay, >> great. >> Before we go into non-public, can I just um Yeah, we have three minutes. I would like to strongly encourage you, Becky, to look at Rene's blog. >> Oh my god. >> Which I don't say anything. >> It's so meaningful to those of us in education. I think it's such a reminder to what we're supposed to do, what we what our job is to take care of kids. >> And I
038just I found and I mean I do this for a living. I called her and I said, "This is absolutely amazing." So, I would like to celebrate a that you're ours, but b I think it would be great to spread it to teachers. It's just >> it is a I I don't write it as an SEU 16 employee. I write it it's on Substack and I write it as a person who's passionate about public education, which you are too. Um, and Cheryl found it on Substack and called me and was like, "What is this?" >> Um, and so that's what you're talking about. And so, and I did not know she was going to do that. >> No. No. and she did not know I was going to make my teachers read it every week.
039Um, but I'm not making them actually >> linked onto your LinkedIn profile. >> It is. >> And I read it on your >> LinkedIn. But the Jesse Jack the Jesse Jackson one moved me to get tearful. >> I don't cry. Like it's one of my disabil I don't cry. That got me a little bit choke. It's that meaningful. So I would strongly suggest you take a look at it. Nice >> and that she's ours. >> Thank you. Thank you. It's free on substep. It doesn't m Yeah, it's free, but you know, I just it's it's worth a million. I would I would pay for that. How about that? >> You can I know, but I don't really I don't Yeah, you could, but I really just want to share about >> Well, that would be
040probably some kind of conflict education. I don't think you will much work. >> Turn that will turn into I'm paying her behind the scenes by a Substack to do Yeah. Yeah. No, I'm not paying her. >> It is free on Substack, >> but it is great. And I would just Becky, it's a for teachers to remind them. And that's what my teacher said to Stacy, their director. This reminded me about who we are and who we used to be until everything got to be a fight and everything got to be this is who we're supposed to be. So, it's really a good article >> and it really we can move past it, but it really speaks to what the teachers do every day. And that's what I don't think people understand what the teachers do
041every single day. And they they welcome any single kid inside this building. And if a kid is hungry, they feed the kid where they they ex every teacher, including the Kensington teachers, they accept every single little person that comes into this building, however they show up. >> And that's what public schools do everywhere. And if they if from snacks to shoes to boots to hugs to extra help with math to books at their level, I mean, they do it thanklessly and they don't talk about it because talking about it would be talking about students personal business. Correct. >> And that's what people don't understand. Teachers can't always brag about what they do because they'd be talking about students personal business, but they do it year after year and they do it as and they don't
042get thanked >> and they don't get appreciated. If people even knew that the the the noses they wipes and everything that they do, people would be quite surprised if they just followed an elementary school public school teacher, a middle school, and a high school teacher through the day >> and hear what they hear and what they have to respond to in the moment. It's too bad there's not a way to test that and get data and say, "Look, my god, we're best in the state." Because there's no way to test what we do 90% of the day. >> Yeah. >> There's no way to get data on what we do 90% of the day. And that's why people I always say, I don't even look at those. Like I just it's it's a barometer to
043look at for us. It's not judging the school. So, no, I've I would send my kids here all over again. >> Yeah. Mackensington teachers are some of the best. Some of the best. >> Nobody could teach my John to read. And Mrs. Rothman did. >> No, she did. She took him alone and she made him read. I mean, and it's still the same. So, I And I want them to know that we know that because sometimes you don't always feel that. And I want them to know we think they're wonderful. >> Absolutely. >> Okay. I normally say I can't speak for the board, but I just did. >> No, we don't. >> We've talked about that before. >> Yes. >> Absolutely. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Well, I think we can go into non-public now.
044>> Yep. You can close public input because it's been 30 minutes. >> So, I will close public input at 6:34 p.m. >> And we'll now go. Do I need to say the reason again? The >> Yeah. So, it sounds like we want to It sounds like we want to go under two things. It's G for safety and security and then um and E. So, it's E and G because you want to talk about legal strategy based on the lawsuits that you're having. And I forget. Do I make a motion to go into nonpublic? >> Yep. You need to make a motion to go into non-public under RSA um 91A um colon I I and then E and G and then we have to do a roll call vote. Okay. Right. I will make a motion
045to go into non a nonpublic section under RSA chapter 91A colon 3 2 I E and G. Yeah. And >> and a second. >> Second. >> And then a roll call vote. >> Uh Stephanie Schmidt. That's what I do, right? >> Yep. Yep. You say your name and yes or no. >> Yeah. >> Wendy Larson. Yes. >> Cheryl, yes. Mcdana. >> All right. Thank you. Two hours ago. >> Can I make a motion to adjurnn? >> Goodness. >> Yes. >> Second. >> Oh, I thought you already. >> No, we did that. came out of nonhelic.