001I can go lower. [laughter] I like the lower. >> We're very We're very >> I love it. >> Okay. So, we have a couple of things to >> there. >> One is kind of just deliberative session. Um very quick roundup of um good things uh things to be concerned about. I don't think there was anything bad in the deliberative session. Most of you everybody was there, right? >> Yeah. Awesome. [laughter] >> Yes. >> Thank you again for turning out >> and so that was great. Although I didn't see anybody new like I know Phyllis you had some people there that you had specifically asked that Mike had asked like that I that you and I both know I didn't see any new faces like no one was out of the ordinary for the deliberative session
002which is a good thing and a neutral thing that doesn't get us any anything new coming in um but no questions which was nice um I think we had done an incredible job um bringing in um going out and and answering all the questions that each of the individual groups had and things along those lines. Um >> but it was this group. >> What? Yeah, >> it was everybody. It was you guys who all knew the answers. >> Yeah, [laughter] it really was. Um so, anything more to add than what we've already kind of like chatted about? >> Just a question because I did not go to the SA16 one. Yep. This didn't come up there at all. >> No, it wouldn't. Okay. Um, this is a completely separate budget. So, it's not other things
003>> only for the town of New Fields. >> Yeah. There is no money coming from the SAU. So, it would not have been brought up there at all. Um, this is a local local to News. There she is. >> And it was just as good as ours was. It was unbelievable. I've never seen such a chill as you. [laughter] It really was. It was just It was >> All three were like really unusually chill. >> I'm afraid of Mike. [laughter] >> Well, no, Mike didn't Mike. >> No, he doesn't. He just says [clears throat] the New Fields uh ones. [snorts] >> So, now we're at the point where we need to bring it across the line. So, I know that we' all kind of been chatting about different options, um different things to do. Um
004I want to take one off of the table immediately which is putting something in the um friends flyer. Um there's a bit of a conflict of interest where three of us are on that board. So it's going to look like it skewed the library newsletter. So that one is kind of >> okay >> off the table. Um >> and I don't even know if we can get the deadline there. It's going to take >> very close Monday. >> Yeah. So, um I think that one, although that one would be really nice, I think that there's too much conflict of interest there with three of us being on board members on that on that to um put it in there. However, we have a couple of different options. However, before we get into the options, Ellen,
005do you have guidelines for us in what we can and cannot do >> regarding? >> Yes. >> Um kind of things that we can and cannot do because we cannot at this point ask the board for any money for this. But let's talk about what options we we have available to us. Mhm. Yeah, I I do want to and I know that, you know, I'm off I'm the one that's advising the group, right, and helping us to make sure that we're operating in alignment with the statutes in New Hampshire and also in alignment with how we do business as an organization for SEU16. Um, and so and you know, this specific advisory committee does not have the authority to expend funds. So that's also where I was coming from in the email about, you know,
006not, you know, not advising that we utilize public funds to put out something regarding the election. Um, in general also, there's statutes in New Hampshire around electioneering and government bodies are expected to remain neutral in elections. like that's why you notice the SAU um flyer was about getting out the vote but not encouraging people to vote one way or the other. >> Um so I could not advise that something came out of this committee that would be encouraging people to vote one way or the other. I think that would be a risky move and I think that we want to really make sure we're being cautious and operating within the parameters of the law. So what we could do is something similar to what the SA do SAU does which is a get out the
007vote >> I think get out the vote >> and if it is we are not asking to expend any public funds if we self-fund it that is still okay because it is not how far away are we from gray area to a hardline >> area I think you would have to form another committee >> I think >> it's a local committee that's not affiliated with the school at all so it could be a citizen committee that could say we want to support this. There's no conflict. >> Could be a private resident >> um who's not on our committee could put could put something out. That would be a cautious way to handle it. >> I'm sorry. >> Go in HOA. >> Yeah. >> No, I'm not in your >> I'm not either. >> Oh, no.
008I was just looking. Yeah, they they probably >> but but a private [snorts] a private citizen's group. >> I think an individual private citizen would right would be a safe way to do it. Um I think that you know we as a committee exist because of the school board and because of the because of the SAU. So I think it is it's it's not advisable from my perspective to for this committee to put something out. Well, we could still put out things on um social media letting people know about the project and its impact. Um maybe that's not going to expend funds and that's not telling people one way or the other um in [snorts] general what you know where this committee lies. One of the um tenants of this group is communication about the
009the project. So that does fall within our purview. >> So as long as it is communication about answering questions and um letting people know h where they can vote, how they can vote, I think that is in it. Um and if we if if let me put this carefully, if people in this group want to do something else that would be above and beyond this this group's purview I think right is that >> yes >> but but it sounds like we have to be careful about what we do because we are committee members >> correct correct as as a committee we have certain bounds that we need to stay in >> one way I think about this is like the collective versus the individual right the collective group I think putting something out it would
010be hard to for someone to make a case that this group is even if it's neutral is not right looking for people to vote yes. Um, so I think you want to be really cautious. >> But for example, myself as an individual, I contribute things to some of the Facebook groups. >> So I could just say, "Hey, >> this is coming up. Please vote. Here's some information or where to get more information." >> Can we back up for a second? Sure. Because one of my concerns is what the target audiences. We didn't have many parents at that meeting, right? >> [snorts] >> We hit a couple, but they were >> but it really wasn't intended by the parents even though I think we tried to get them to come out. We did certainly >> also
011um I would guess that the people who are most likely to vote no I hate to say it but are in our democratic >> I I was just saying that as as well they're the folks who >> part of that is this concept that um unlike some other New Hampshire communities if you don't have kids in the school district you don't get a tax break which I didn't realize existed but there are Lee gives a discount so to speak on your taxes if you don't have children in the school >> and people know that and we don't do that here. So now we're asking for people who don't have children in the school another tax increase. Um and how do you combat that? And and are those the people I mean if you put it
012on Facebook are you more likely to have naysayers come because of the demographics? So he uses Facebook which is not your generation >> right >> in general. So I just want us to think about you know who are we trying to target to come out to vote. Um and I don't even you know you guys have been around a lot longer who does come out. We don't know probably. >> We do. We do. We do. I >> you pro. You may. >> We do. Yeah, we do know who comes [cough] up, but we know who the consistent voters are year. However, um like I said sent you guys in the email, in the past 5 years, there has not been a vote where there isn't somebody, you know, a contest something contested on the ballot,
013whether it's rug or whether it's, you know, select >> select board, school board, things like that. This is the first ballot where >> since it's a straight [clears throat] No, it's before co >> before really >> since it's a straight shot. Yeah. And and in addition when the so the whole thing with rug which Mike was talking about there was besides the fact that people who wanted conservation had a skin in the game. There were people who didn't think we had the infrastructure to support the additional building that theoretically so you had two factions that you could appeal to. Who do who are we appealing to? Parents clearly, right? Yep. That have children here. But how are you going to pull in the other people? What's the story? What's the hook? What's the What's the
014reason? >> Yeah. And you need more than >> But if you're looking at the people that do tend to vote, what I think what we're trying to do is say this is not a huge impact and it's good for our community, >> right? It raises. So yes, there is a cost. Minimizing cost as much as possible via long-term bond. So there's one. So doing good by the school and minimizing taxpayer impact. Then you have in general we are improving the infrastructure of the town. So you know I can't say new services all this other stuff but it is it is going to improve the infrastructure of the town thus improving your tax um you know what your valuation is. So you do have a couple of things there. So, we want to get to, you
015know, a point where it's, you're right, people are thinking that this is, they're not against it. I don't want, what I don't want to do is people to go to the polls and vote no, right? I want them to go in and go, okay, sure, I can afford a small increase um in, you know, the mill rate [snorts] and I see what the benefit is. So I think looking at um a lot of the things that you put together kind of hit those marks. >> Do we know what the increase is? >> The in it depends on the mill rate. The increase will be >> probably yeah it's about a cent per thousand >> per thousand. So it's 0.08 per thousand. If they do a 20 year if we do a 20-year loan it goes
016anywhere from 0.1 to 0.08. So all all very um fuzzy numbers of course right >> and this is also the year though that the the >> gas goes away >> but I think >> but they've already said with the mill that the increase in the taxes are going to be right it's going to be I mean Hob's comment the other night was wrong because he said 11% increase and that's not >> no that's not right. Yeah. So that was a little >> I think it's our >> if you roll if you roll it all in it's five. >> So our current >> Well, but I think he was referencing what it would have been if they didn't take the money that they're taking for other from the unspent funds. >> Yeah. So if we do
017a 5-year loan, it'll be 0.2 >> 20 cents on the >> per thousand. If we do a 20-year loan, it'll be about 0.08. 08. That's that is granted messy numbers. Uh if we do a 5year, it'll be over $100,000 a year. [snorts] And if we do a 20-year loan, it'll be about 36 $38,000 a year. >> Mike and Hobie both are very much on the 20-year loan. >> Oh, yeah. >> I feel like the odds of a fiveyear loan is >> impossible. >> It's low. I mean, >> yeah, it's not going to happen. >> You can't promise. >> No, you can't promise which one will go. If you have put too many examples out there with numbers, it's going to confuse. So I think 20 years saying for example, this is what it would be
018at 20 years and then >> somehow denote that this could vary depending on what's finally decided, >> right? Because this is at a bond rate of 3.43. That is not >> the bond rate that we're going to get. That's just the current bond rate. Ours will be higher most likely. Um but >> some of them are going down right now. some of them are but we can't >> can't count on it anything right now but it will be anywhere in you know it'll be under 40 a year >> which is reasonable I think but I do think too that to your point you know the fact that that other one is going away being able to say hey you won't feel it as much because >> yeah and the new field's total tax rate is
019of 20 2025 tax rate was 16.95 and they local education tax rate which is new fields as well as um the cooperative is 12.42. So this would bring it up. >> It's basically 1%. >> 1%. Yeah. Is >> Yeah. is >> Thank you for mapping the head. >> It's 1% on top of the 5%. >> No. One 1% of the total education taxes. >> Yeah. for not just the school but for the SAU included. >> Yeah. >> So, um [laughter] >> it's it's less than it's less it's less than 1% if uh you know you're talking about it's probably about 3/4 of a percent or thereabouts or twothirds of a percent, >> right? >> You're talking about the total tax. >> Are we saying 20-year bond is not likely? >> No, that is likely. >>
020Oh, I was gonna say okay. I thought we were saying it was five years. 5 years is incredibly I would I would bet it's probably going to be anywhere between a 15 or 20 year. >> Okay. >> So So who do we want to have? >> Target audience. >> Yeah, that's a good question. >> I I think that's >> that's a really good way to >> rather than trying to convince people that this is a good thing. [snorts] Would we be smarter to try to convince people to come vote? >> Yes. But there is there there is a very large chunk of people who and as you said I mean it's the baby boomers who are going to show up no matter what. And I think those folks need to be sold as well as
021the parents. And one question I had is what about um like an information flyer? Can that go out in backpacks? >> That would be a Susie question, right? >> It's like trying to support it, right? >> So that right that's trying to influence the vote and as school officials, right? >> Influence. >> If it's just anformational thing, >> if you say this is this is here, >> you have to like The way it's worded is careful in that it's factually presenting the fact that this topic is on. >> It's just describing the war. That's all it is doing, >> right? And asking people to please come out to vote. >> Yeah. >> Vote their conscience. Not vote yes or no. >> Yeah. >> Vote. >> Yeah. Do you >> I think she's, you know, we
022have used in our capacity as school officials to certainly get out the vote and Yes. And to provide information um as long as it is neutral. Is there >> Yeah, especially with the SAU notifications that come out from the emails. I get voting stuff all the time from SAU16. >> Encouraging people to to come out, encouraging people to come out to vote, right? >> Yeah. We're not saying you have to vote for yes or no, right? We're just saying here's the information. >> If you look at you're informed, >> you know, I'm comparing it to our budget flyers that went out >> this year. I have one in my car. They were very they were very neutral and succinct. >> Yeah, we can be neutral. I'm not we're not saying yes or no to anybody.
023We're just saying this is what we want people to be informed because right now nobody hardly anybody knows it's out there to be honest. And the last thing we want is people to come to the the voting booth and go what's 500,000 for this? No. >> Yeah, >> that's ex >> so neutral on kids safety. I don't know. I'm having [laughter] a tough I'm having a tough time wrapping my brain around that, you know. >> No, but I mean if you said it was going to cost $100 million, you know, for kids safety, people say forget it out of hand, right? So there's always there's always [laughter] there's always a trade-off, right? Yeah. I mean, so I did a little research in that the history just in country, the history of bond issues passing that
024need that are school bond issues that need the 60% is something like 40% the first time around. >> Yep. >> It's not very high. >> That's >> in my mind. >> It's the second time around, so good. >> Well, [laughter] I know that was my question, too. [laughter] Um, so >> just I mean, >> okay, so we have a couple of things that I want to make sure that we kind of >> but you got to be careful because last year came through as a dollar, right? And people if they hadn't heard like I had heard nothing about it last year, >> it's like a dollar, sure, I'll vote for a dollar. And ifused about it. >> Yes. >> Um, >> yeah. And if they see 500,000 this time, they're going to go, "Oh, last
025year they wanted a dollar and now they want 500,000." >> Good point. A lot of people are not going to know that one point whatever. Yeah. >> Yeah. So >> I think >> so is there a way of targeting you know you're the head of Democrats in town. Is there a way of targeting specific households basically and how do we go about doing that effectively? >> So that is so yes we can [clears throat] um >> and it's not it's not a partisan issue. No, but I mean from your experience at past elections >> the thing I mean what the thing that seems to work and it's like all virtually all candidates on both sides um have done it year after year and um it's a mailer to all residents and that's also the most
026economical to do it to all residents. and PO boxes and um and I know Mike sent out some stuff about and um Anthony at the UPS store is a rock star and uh can get can get get stuff done and and it's a bulk mail thing so it it but that's a way to just you know try to clearly put information out and it's one of those unfortunate things where you've got like 3 seconds to basically grab somebody's attention before they chuck it >> in a recycling bin. Right. >> So, it's it's >> you [laughter] know catchy >> every other week. >> So, I mean that's an option although we have the this body doesn't have funds. [snorts] If Phyllis you would like to take that on and garner some donations from others in town
027to do that, I think you would have supporting. >> So, um I think that so we have a couple of things that we know are viable and effective to get out the vote. One is the mailer. We've done a million of those in the past. [snorts] Um, just to be very clear, I'm also the secretary of the Newfield STEM. So, I've got like a triple kind of conflict of interest here. >> Triple hats, >> all the things. So, um, that's why that's why you keep looking at me. Um, so there are a number of different things that we can do. I think for a mailer, for a citizen's mailer, I think that would be great if you took the lead on that and then we kind of pulled ourselves away. However, I'm happy to share
028whatever we come up with for a take-home flyer or a >> social media post so that you can utilize that >> in some way, shape, or form. >> Right. If you I guess one of the questions I have is the distinction between is it does this group feel the most effective way to move this project forward is to get out the vote as one strategy or is this group of the opinion that we need to get out the vote and also encourage people to support the project. >> It's got to be both. >> That's what I think. >> Yeah. >> That that's your that's how to that's time well spent. >> Yes. So both. So in how I just heard you say earlier that we can't >> be partisan. >> We as if describing the
029Warren article is it's not supporting it one way or the other. >> Right. So if you wanted to do a social media post and post it to any one of the three New Fields groups, you could do that and say, "Hey, I'm a committee member. I have >> worked on this. This is the information about it. I support it as an individual." Yes, you could do that. Um, >> okay. >> What you can't what we can't do, and then correct me if I'm wrong in here. What we can't do is put out a flyer saying, >> um, we've worked on this. We support it. Go out and vote for this. >> I have a question about that. So, this came out to parents and it was a video from, uh, the superintendent from Androski >>
030talking about warrant article number three is going to be appearing on the exit ballot this year. This video explains why the warrant was recommended by the board and the purpose of the warrant. >> Yeah. >> So there's a clear example. Chris just sent this out a couple weeks ago. >> So it's >> on behalf of the Right. >> So and this is recommended by the board. So I think we just have to carefully word anformational file coming from this group. Can the board >> The board recommended it? >> If the board recommended it, why can't the board send something out like this? >> The board isn't meeting again. So then when I say we take it on, I mean we could use the same flyer, but then if a private citizen took the same flyer
031and put across the top vote yes, >> we've kind of just got it all in one. >> Yep. >> Right. >> Does that meet criteria? >> I think that sounds >> okay. >> Go ahead. >> I think we're I'm loving that. Thank you. >> Maybe we just take the word script from this and follow it. >> What's the out of curiosity, the war article 3 that you referenced? What's that? one is from the um the cooperative >> the one enrollment. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Yes. >> It is a little bit different because it's not a a public expenditure per se as as opposed to >> bond. It's a it's a whole ball. >> No, I know. I >> That's a good point. There were no funds in that one. >> That's true. >> That's
032a very strong distinction. >> Yeah. What you What were you saying? >> I'm still confused about why the board can't do this. Is they not meeting? >> Why can't they have a meeting to do this? It's [snorts] important. >> It >> can't you have an off oneoff? Can't you have an emergency meeting? >> We can support this. >> This Yes. >> We can't. This doesn't constitute an emergency though. >> Well, it doesn't Can't you just add like this school uh town board adds extra beatings with a sufficient notice to the public? >> You can. Um I don't know what the availability is. We usually only meet once a month unless it's an emergency. Um the deadlines kind of mail or >> if we had gotten ahead of this. Yes. >> I I would say at
033this point it's going to be hard to meet for one line item for us to meet for 10 minutes and we have to have an open meeting for 30 minutes because of all kinds of other things. It's going to be difficult logistically. If I was smart enough and kind of saw in the future, I would have said, "Hey, you know, in the deliberative session at that schoolboard meeting, we could do this." I didn't. So, I'll take that one. I'll take that mistake on. Um, but you're absolutely right. Like, um, I >> can the flyer say that the school board recommended it? >> Doesn't the um the warrant article says that >> the warrant article says it? So, yes, we can say that. >> Yeah. So it's you don't need to have a meeting if the
034warrant article says it already that should be added. >> So yes, we could actually say that the school >> penalty for violating any >> I don't really don't want to get out. >> No, I don't want to do >> but if it's already on the warrant that's just something that you can add to this flyer. >> Yep. >> You don't have to have another meeting to do that. Correct. >> Correct. >> Y it is already recommended by the board. So, that is something that we can utilize 100%. Um, and I don't really want to get what's his name involved? The what is it? Commissioner or what is it? >> The commissioner of educ of the department of education. >> No, no, no, no. Um, elections that guy. I don't really want to piss him. >>
035Okay. Well, let's forget them. We're not >> Yeah, we want to we want to follow the rules. That's we >> But this is a statement of fact >> whenever possible. I mean rules >> rules are meant to be >> they're laws, right? So we we want to operate within the bounds of the laws. >> Ask a question. I don't know how um one thing is this has some really to me very interesting support from um like different people in town. >> Yeah. And I'm wondering if some of those folks who have expressed um that they're supportive would also be willing to like have their names mentioned in this because if people realize that this is something that's let's say you know supported by >> who do you think the fire >> I don't think they
036would be allowed to do that >> but I don't know that they've actually said yes because they still have concerns. >> Yeah. >> Don't they with I don't know. Mike's talked to a bunch of people who sound like they're all >> No, I think we're we're okay now. Um Mike's talked to Chief Young. I've talked to Chief Buckton. They were all like, "Wow, this is a better >> And I mean, you'd have to ask them before you put their names." And if you put their name, you just say, "It's been reviewed by the head of the police and the fire departments." >> But I But they you you would have to check with them, but it would be okay. I wouldn't do that unless >> What about NYA? They benefit from the parking lot. >>
037Huge. Yeah. >> Can they They're private organization. >> That's a good thing to think about. Community stakeholders. >> They can reach out on their own. >> They can. >> And the PTO. >> Yeah. >> Yep. So, if we're thinking about So, we'll put >> Did PTO fun this? >> That's because the PTO take it on. >> I don't know. >> I know if anyone from the PTO came to the meeting. >> I don't think anyone did. >> I sent I sent emails to most people I knew. >> Who sat at the PT? I don't know. [laughter] >> Is Carla still on it? >> Kate Kennedy. Kate Kennedy Johnson. I think you're right. Kate Kate Kennedy. You're right. >> And I know that we've communicated with the PTO about getting people out at the budget hearing
038and then also the deliberative session. I know Susie put something out on parent square. >> Apparently it hasn't been effective >> to get right. So I think right >> so we can >> mass communications you could argue haven't proven to be effective. So is this more of a word of mouth? >> Yeah. You did a [clears throat] really good job. >> Well, I think the bet the best thing is something that can go >> so that at least know what's going on >> and then we'll hit NY. There's a lot of kids in NYA. >> Yeah. >> I mean, those are the people between the parents and MIA. Those are people coming to this parking lot. >> I mean, I think that your question your first question is why should someone care? >> The whole
039purpose of this project was this idea that this isn't there's an accident waiting to happen. I think that has impact to anybody and you know who may not have a young child but just them in their life that that just I mean I don't want to make it sound alarmist but how can we get that >> one thing that isn't we haven't talked about is the fact that the crossing lights going in is going to make it safer for cars also yep >> to be able to see what's going on and not hit somebody like Britney got hit right by the librarian >> got hit out front because the kid behind her didn't realize that she was slowing down cuz >> And is the crossing stuff going to help with that? >> You mean the
040got hit? >> The car got hit. Sorry. >> Okay. >> So, we're [laughter] back to where we started which was a mailer which again this committee could not fund, >> right? >> Maybe a >> but we can the committee for uh school safety but funded by private citizens in town, right? So, you could create one of those. We could definitely put some type of electronic mail, you know, >> thing. So, fly electronic flyer. So, something, you know, similar to more concise than this. Um, but I really liked this. Like, this was great. Um, where it says, you know, um, supported by, recommended by, right? >> Yep. Recommended by >> by. And it sounded like it has to be this week to do the mailer. >> No, typically typically um it is a quick turnaround. Um
041it's a week or two. So what is >> 17 mail takes a while. >> Yeah. So it was >> and it's also like a busy time of the year. >> Yeah. Because they're getting all of them out. I knew that it was about a week or two turnaround for us and we want it to land in people's if there anything needs to be if if a mailer goes out Phyllis >> then it would be land just before >> like the third or fourth >> third or fourth for the 10th on the vote which is a Tuesday so we want it to land [snorts] somewhere Thursday Friday Saturday >> and just the reality that the elections a month from today. >> Yep. We got plenty. We got some time. >> Well, it sounds like a week.
042>> Yeah, exact. I mean, it's >> the week to get the mailer out is if you say the 17th, today's the 10th. >> Get the printing. >> It's a It's the printing and the >> info to Yeah. >> Well, the mail is not quick with our current post office. >> Anony's pretty awesome. >> Actually, there's a coverage. >> Yeah. So, okay. So, let's let's focus on let's focus on what we want to do for an electronic flyer and then we can hand off kind of all that stuff for any kind of mailer that you'd like to do and anybody else wants to get in touch with Phyllis afterwards or Mike to help with is good at this stuff too. >> Yeah, >> I can help with that too. >> Awesome. Okay. >> Is it worth
043targeting specific? I mean I know we're you guys send out a large mail [snorts] but targeting specific households >> is that too timeconuming enough >> if you um it's not the time consuming part it's the um it's the cost if you just send to resident it is cheaper than mailing it to >> No I meant in addition to a mail for example if you had a committee of concerned citizens you know could they make phone calls to the um I mean you know uh the NA NYA family and the school I think that should things and maybe I don't know if you leverage some of your knowledge about voters who are likely to turn out and potentially be >> I have a massive call list >> and I can share that. >> Um >> are
044we as committee members able to to do that or not? >> You as citizens of individual fields are allowed to do that. >> I can't say you were on the committee. I suppose >> you can say you were on the committee and you support it but you can't speak for the committee. >> Sure. That is an accurate >> that's fair. Yes, that you're certainly everyone's first amendment rights remain intact. You don't want to use your position as a committee member to influence them, >> right? >> Um however, I can absolutely share um phone numbers. >> We don't make the laws, right? We just we just seek to follow them. >> You want to follow them, >> right? You want to follow. >> Um so I'm happy to share email addresses that I have, phone numbers
045that we have that we've collected over the years. Um, and if there's people in there that you want to like neighbors or um, things along those lines. >> All right. So, what do we have? We have we want something to come out from the SAU. >> We want the a flyer to come out from the SAU that is >> just >> recommended by the school board bond recommended by the school board that has effectively these tenants in it informing people about what the bond is, >> right? So like what Chris did for this other warrant article number three. >> Um >> that's what I hear you >> I think so >> saying. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So that's what then we would love a citizen to do a mailing. >> Yep. >> I'm going to
046leave that in your hand. So as soon as we're done with item number one then we can you can take that detail and work on item number two. And then we can as board members if you so wish we can make some calls I can share that um if you would like to do it not mandatory obviously this is not a decision of the board it is a decision of the individual members. >> Mike had this other idea of having people at the polls. >> Yep. Um typically I'm at the polls it is really [laughter] >> you don't have to be there for so I mean I'll say the the the times to be there, Phyllis and I have have done this years and years and years is in the morning um at lunchtime and
047after work. Those are the biggest [snorts] times. It is going to it'll the peaks and valleys are when people are available to go out and vote during lunchtime or anything like that. Um and as soon as I think the polls close at 8 >> 7 8 to 7 >> it's 8 to 7 for town election. 7 to 7 for federal stuff. And >> so, um, and I'll tell you, it is for rigid. Absolutely. It is cold this year. So, um, I >> It's going to be warm. Don't >> Okay. [laughter] I I I trust you. >> And And one thing just with with rules, you're not allowed, >> you know, it's not like you can have a whole bunch of this stuff that close to the poll and hand it out. How close it would
048be though? >> Because in in Connecticut it's 50 ft you have to be. And I complained the first year because I couldn't get in the building. >> Yeah. >> And it's like nope, you have you need a 10 foot quarter. That's it. >> Yeah. They we know we know the rules pretty well. You can see >> and John's John John's pretty >> John is very making sure that but >> there's a difference between making the corridor holding signs and physically handing out paper. Yeah, that's too >> you can't give >> you cannot give out flyers. You cannot do that. You can do that 100 feet away. Mhm. >> But you can do that in the parking lot that you >> but you cannot be >> sorry pole workers parking parking [snorts] lot so nobody can
049vote >> but yeah you have to be you can't be you can say ask me what you want um >> you can you have any questions about >> if you have any questions and the nice thing about a mailer is a lot of people bring that mailer in with them and use it as a guide. So, it would seem to me that that we only thing we haven't done is put the Warren article, the wording of the Warren article right on the nailer so people see it. >> It's a long >> It is a long It is a long >> No, but shouldn't I mean >> it's a long >> take snippets of it. >> I would take a piece of it, not the whole thing. Maybe a piece of it. >> The facts, some
050of the data from the Warren article. >> Yep. >> I think you have three seconds to capture someone's attention. That crazy. [laughter] give us money. >> Yeah, I would I would say if I'm looking at this um it's, you know, less, you know, tax impact. >> I mean, this was sort of to be on the back was what Mike had said, right? And >> absolutely. I mean, we can take some of these things, but if we're just looking at like a, >> you know, one pager flyer, then, you know, two pages is a little bit too much. I like >> Well, front and back. I like this cartoon and >> the cartoon and the and the pullouts are great. >> I think >> consistent messaging is important. >> Well, the flyer has to have some
051space for the address, >> right? >> That that's easy. The thing is it's not really much of an address because >> it's resident. >> Okay. >> And um an [snorts] Let me see if I can find that. >> I just haven't kept any of the ones recently. like Anthony was basically saying um you know like just like the resident new fields and the stamp here could almost just fit right at the very top so it doesn't take much space. >> I remember the one that Mike sent out about the red property and that was dense. [laughter] >> Yeah, that's pretty pretty typical um for that type of um defense one. But for an informational one where we're just trying to get a vote out, um I think that'll be it'll be a little bit different.
052But I'll I mean we you and I can work on that. That'll be easy peasy >> because it will be will it be 8 and 1 half by 11 or it will be the more the the >> 8 and 1 half by 11. >> Okay. Because I know some of the ones from the candidates that come >> are half >> and those get lost in the shuffle. >> Okay. >> Yeah. It's better if it's the size that doesn't get lost and you have an address room for here. So, it's two-sided, >> so it can be We'll We'll design it. We'll send it out if you guys want to see it, but we'll send it out after. >> Big words, too. >> We have We have a lot of really good words. And that's the nice
053thing is is like you can really, you know, put, you know, vote and recommended by and all that stuff in big, you know, big block letters. >> I know Mike was saying you're good at this, too. >> Um, so for this, we can actually utilize both of these for the electronic flyer and the other one. Are you okay? You did this amazing thing. Are you okay kind of like making this a little bit more succinct? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> And for what? For the private >> for the No, for the electronic one. >> Yeah. Like I'm I'm sitting here thinking we we only want to pull out three or four ideas. Y >> and if I if I had kids in school today or I used to have kids in school or I visit
054with NYA, >> what am I going to notice that's different? >> And I was thinking the crosswalk with the light says everyone's going to see that driving down the street. >> Yep. the fact that there's a one-way traffic loop because people have seen this back and forth in the parking lot >> and I kind of like you [cough] an email resurfacing the parking lot >> like that's most of the cost single line item >> going to be the price it's going to be you know >> in some way shape or minimizing the minimizing minimizing >> images of the cost because >> that's going to have to happen no matter what So, you could absolutely say something along the lines of um less than $40,000 a year tax impact. Something along those lines. I I let
055you massage it. You're better with that those wordings than I am. But you have a couple of different options, too. >> Um >> if I heard that statement, I would think that was applying to mine and I'd be really nervous about that. So, definitely massage. Oh, the other thing too is like I've seen other things that basically said, you know, the the impact for the average New Fields resident would be X amount and that was like, oh, you know, >> so 20 bucks. Okay, I'm good. >> This is ready for some math. So the new fields tax rate 16.5 total commitment the valuation is $456,000. >> That's the average. >> What if you just did it on,000 but average? >> Well a million dollar home at 12 12 mills is $120 a year. >> There
056you go. >> So if you want to say an $800,000 home it's going to be 80 80%. I don't know you know what the a what we how we define average but >> I would just keep it simple and use something in a denomination of fives or tens >> because then people can go halfway or >> $500,000$500,000. >> That's what I was obnoxious. So I I don't like the optics of that. So I was just thinking if a $100,000 home this is your impact and then you can just take that and multiply I know but >> it's $12. >> That's what I'm saying. So it's just someone to do the math. >> $12. >> Yeah. Right. Right. For everyund,000 of home value, >> it's 1200,000. >> I mean, it may be as low as eight
057based on your numbers, you know, but 8 to 13, >> but that's it. For for every $100,000 in value, it would be >> in my head. >> Yes. >> So, it'd be 8 to$13 based on what you have here, you know. >> Yep. There you go. >> But if you want to choose one number, you know, >> so do >> approximately >> could do the middle of that. I would I would >> I wouldn't do 10 because I think >> I'd probably choose the higher end, you know. >> So So you're you're not right. >> We want to be We want to be [cough and clears throat] >> Yeah. 100%. >> So and just say for every $100,000 in home value, this could cost >> $13 a year. >> $13 per year. >> Yeah. >>
058Says assessed for the value different than the market value. >> Yep. Perfect. An assessed value. >> That's the That was actually the 10-year bond. I mean it'd be lower for but I mean you know I think >> to be fair you want to use the highest 20 you're >> buy you say about 10 >> I think you could too this cost about $10 a year >> I think so. Yep. >> Okay. All right. I really like >> I'm a little cons I'm just a little concerned about being misleading if something weird >> except they're not we're not going with a 10-year bond. We're going for a 21. >> Yeah. And we have to footnote this. So this will be the statement and there should be a footnote to say assuming a 20-year bond >> a
059500 you know you have to yeah we would have to footnote >> I'll give you the detail >> right because technically there's >> there are moving >> right the board is you have to make that official decision the terms >> and we don't want to be pinned down >> correct >> thanks >> so these rates are not going they're definitely going to be different we just don't know if they're going to be up or most likely up. I'm going to bet up. >> Who knows? >> It' be great if they were down, but they could be up. >> So, just coming back to this, like what's [laughter] >> the crosswalk, the light, >> the oneway traffic and the cost to the taxpayer >> and the fact that there's no delineated parking. I mean, does do
060you think that's something that's compelling to someone? >> No. >> So, then we have to talk about So, then maybe it's the pedestrian and bike safety. I think that's >> well how about the level gravel lot with 50 plus spaces. I mean that's something that >> I mean the way you can [snorts] put that is it could be used for town things also. >> Yeah it is. Yeah, like Memorial Day. >> Say expanded parking. >> Expanded parking. That's a perfect >> Okay. >> for towns. >> The resurfacing with parking or just >> Well, I wouldn't say resurfacing parking because somebody might think that that lot is going to be paved and we don't want to >> I think just expanded parking is fine. >> This is level gravel lot which I think is fine because
061that is not level right now. >> Leveled gravel. >> Gravel. >> Oh, right. It will be though. It will be. You're so picky. >> Muddy muddy humps, but it's enough. >> Okay. >> We really have four bullet points. >> I think that's great. That's enough. >> And just the safety. I mean, this the safety aspect. The other thing that I think >> is getting lost is I mean, I'm worried about >> like the chief or whatever other police officers there, you know, helping direct traffic cuz to me they're at risk. I mean, you know, kids are kids are crossing, you know, once in the whole day. They're standing there and and it sounds like they've had some really near misses. >> So, maybe you want to put something about pedestrian and officer >> safety, >>
062emergency personnel. No. >> So, you could definitely link that in with crossing light. >> Yeah. >> Statement to increase. >> Well, and the one way both of those are I agree. >> I'm trying to make it not [snorts] too wordy. >> Yeah. We could we could have a that >> safety in general. >> You know, safety in general. Yeah, that's a good point. >> I I think you're right. Keep it to like a couple of bullet points and keep it simple. >> I did mention it to one person and they said, "Well, we've never had an incident there." >> You had almost nothing. >> All it takes is Yeah. I know it takes one, but that's that's the mindset of people 85. Yep. >> Well, nobody's been killed there since 1960. It's like there's a
063a person a kid got killed or a seven-year-old got killed. >> We could say it's for the safety of staff, students, and community members. >> Yes, but we need like just a couple words. >> Yeah. I mean, these bullets would be like five or six words, right? >> And that's we >> But yeah. Is there some way to make link it to people's safety rather than just safety? >> Wordsmith. We'll get >> pedestrian. Yeah. >> Wordsmith. Get there. >> Chat. >> Totally. >> That's exact. That's what I did. >> I threw it into chat. You can see that the things that I used and threw it in there >> and it made these short multiple points. >> Yeah. So, >> so we want to do car safety or student car uh interaction would be reduced
064crossing light oneway traffic flow and the enhanced parking >> with leveled gravel lot with spaces for >> Yeah. >> Not even [laughter] a town event. Well, but you're you're going to have one side and then another half. So, what are we >> This is going from my hand into the garbage can as I'm going through my mail. >> Yeah. The bigger the text. >> So, what do you what do you put? Are you going to put >> You're going to put this thing as the whole >> the visual as the whole side and then >> this doesn't >> I think the pictures >> the picture will grab your attention. I think >> that bottom picture >> not the bottom one. >> No, no, the top one. >> I tried to put the bottom one. up
065into the non Google and to the non satellite >> to see if we could make it a cartoon. I tried that during lunch hour today. >> It didn't work. >> It's hard. >> I got to try maybe with a different program, but I we need a cartoon. >> Anthony may be able to pull that off >> at UPS. >> Uhhuh. >> Good friends with Anthony. I think we need to leverage this guy. >> No, I mean, no, he is he is [laughter] >> we're learning. He is amazing and he's um >> I mean it's too >> where is the UPS store? >> The UPS store in Northampton by um LLBA outlet. >> I think we need a visual and he has been so that visual over the years. >> Yeah, I agree. It's there's a
066lot going on. >> The top one's okay. That's more of a cartoon, but that's not that's the before. >> But do we even need the before? >> I know you don't need the before. Everybody the bottom. [laughter] Oh wow. >> It was like the Simpsons. >> Let's do it. >> Okay. I just couldn't get the angles right, but it was really simple. >> That's really cute. >> It is super cute. >> People will respond more to that. >> Exactly. >> The focus should be the word. So I said we go with big bold font and then this is just on the side as a visual. >> I think even though it kind of is >> like a rug for the kids, >> right? [laughter] >> Yeah. Yeah. It does. It looks like a circle. >>
067Have some nostalgic effect. >> This is about the children. >> Do you know what I mean? But I did I couldn't tilt the school building. >> I couldn't get the parking lot cuz I didn't want everyone to be like, "Oh, what happened to the teacher >> parking?" Right. >> So, [laughter] this is what I was playing around with. If you guys like this approach, >> we just need to keep working on it. >> Yeah, I actually do like that approach. It looks really >> I think it looks awesome. Clear and simple. And maybe some arrows that do indicate traffic flow one way. It says one way pattern right there. >> Well, I tried I originally had just a couple like three red arrows. I wasn't >> the program put the oneway traffic in there. So,
068>> so if this is the direction, you know, you can export them to word documents >> instead of to a PDF. I learned this today. >> Yeah. >> And then you can like rip out the font that you or change the font. >> It looks like it's got the light on the wrong side though. >> That's okay. She'll fix it. >> Okay. supposed to be a picture of a light. >> It's not a drawing. It's not a design detail. Nobody's going to know. >> Acrobat [laughter] items. >> Yeah. So, we've got you're going to work on something for like like the SAU informational about this. U you'll share it with the rest of the team. I will happily forward something over to Phil and I in my other capacity can work with you on something
069else. >> We can. And then but I think people just reaching out to everybody they know would be helpful. One thing that um Mike um was thinking about is um with the whole rug thing um so many people had it's funny I've noticed that some people still do have green ribbons on their mailboxes >> and um we were talking remember the >> we were talking I remember >> yeah it was in like everybody in Dear Trees had one and and then and then there were miscellaneous folks elsewhere that had them. But doing something and instead of green, doing it in like that orange safety tape and having a ribbon. And you know, I mean, if you start putting orange safety ribbons on mailboxes, people are going to notice and kind of go, "Wait, what's that?"
070and might say, "Hey, why do you have a ribbon?" And so, um, you know, be happy to purchase many feet of ribbon. >> Does the school have a color scheme? >> Blue hooks. >> I think I just worried about runway and time. Yeah. >> And the amount of time it took for that green ribbon to get around. >> I just think that voting in March is strong when recycling is on the ballot. Yeah. >> And I just I think the biggest thing is compelling people to go vote that day. >> And the fact that we need so many votes made me nervous when I saw the emails flying around. I was like, "Oh my gosh, >> we need to make every person feel like they have to show up to vote because they're going to
071be the tippy toes." And and that's the thing with there there's not rug, there's not recycling, there's not any of the stuff that usually brings people out, which to your point may be actually a good thing if we can just get all all the parents out and then convince. But it's >> who who be interested who votes? >> It's not the parents. >> They don't show up. Unless recycling was on the >> 70% turnout that time. >> But I think your lives will be changed if this gets voted because when we come back in September, >> put recycling. Put recycling in your thing somewhere. [laughter] >> Recycling. We're going to take that and use it to recycle. >> We're going to use the parking lot for recycle bits. How about >> recycle? [laughter] >> All
072right. So, we have a triangle sign. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Um, we have a plan for everything. Um, between now and kind of getting everything there, I'll kind of communicate with everybody. We can kind of talk about what you've pulled together and share that out. We can talk share that out. Um, and then kind of pull our collective resources for anything that we wanted to support as >> help get this coming out from the SAU. >> I'm going to speak to Yes. ask the our team about that. >> Okay. Yes, >> perfect. Let us know if there's any >> barriers or concerns. Yes, of course. >> Be really helpful just to be able to kind of get ahead of that emails to the >> parents. And then no, you were >> sends sends emails to
073parents that this was it. This was a parent distribution. >> Yes, we have something called parent square and we use that to communicate through >> with all parents. >> All parents. But that means nobody >> intends to correct you. >> But that's another thing that we can ask Sue to send this out. >> Yes, Sue can. >> As long as it's I don't know what the rules are for this. >> They're pretty simple. Sue, can you send this out? >> She sent out theformational flyer that the SEU created to get people outative session. And yes, >> she's the great to do that in middle school. >> Yeah. Sorry. What? >> Who's going to ask her to do that? >> I can do that. >> Okay, I can do that. >> Yeah, as soon as it's
074ready, I can do that. What are we We just need one page, but what are what are we looking to format? Like a >> half page. It's front and back. >> Well, you're going to She's going to look on one page. >> We want one image because eventually this will go on Facebook, right? So, you want like just one. So, this the stuff that's on here >> could be on the back >> if because it's like additional information. Okay. >> I think the front would be great with a with like bold stuff. Yeah, we'll work on the two pager. >> Okay, >> you are going to work on just like a a flyer one page. >> That's it. And then >> Holly, I can work on getting like trying to cut this down for some
075>> Oh my god, you and your words are fun, >> right? I can work on that with you and we would share that. But I think if we have an image, like a colorful cartoony style image, >> that is something we could print on some posters that we can put up at the [snorts] library, at the post office, at the country store, wherever, just to visually connect to the mailer. And [clears throat] then if we're standing or anybody standing with signs at the election, just that's the, you know, just to make this a branded >> Yeah. >> image essentially. And can that uh visual go on a flyer that goes home in kids backpacks? >> Let's talk to Susie about that Zoom. >> Um because I also asked her about there's a school concert this
076week and then there's another assembly at the end of the month. >> Is there something that can be said in that forum because you have the parents and grandparents there? >> Yes. >> Let's let's defer to her on what she thinks she can do in that setting. >> Can you >> I will take care of that. Yeah. Okay. And if she needs somebody to speak >> because her what she's going to say needs to be consistent with how we're handling it at the >> SA the same message and I think everything should have the same visual so people just need this connected version. >> If you you could even integrate Can I see the the visual that you had again? >> Okay. >> If you if you if we're just calling it NES safety project
077make that in cartoony letters as part of the bottom of the image. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. >> Yeah. So it identifies it. >> I like what she had. Safer students, smarter traffic, minimal tax impact. >> Well, that could be at the top, but I just just to this What is this? >> It's the NES safety project. >> That top things. >> It is very cool. >> All right. I'm gonna say >> you guys connect >> do some words smmithing. Do some cartooning. Cartooning. Cartooning. >> Cartooning. >> When you Yeah. and then loop me in when you get to a certain point. Loop everybody in. And then >> we've got a very tight schedule, right? >> 17. >> We have one week. >> I think you guys could build Rome in a day. [laughter]
078>> Personally, this group is very energetic and you guys are task masters. [laughter] Do >> you just want to say >> he'll be fine by something by Sunday night? >> Yeah. >> I think that's reasonable. That's the 14th. >> Sunday night. I think that's >> and then that gives me some time to confirm like how the communication from the >> also but if the concert's on the that's Friday the concert's Friday but that's okay >> that's okay like backpack >> let me know because I mean if Susie doesn't want to talk to it I can talk to it like I'm happy to come in on Friday >> and do a whole entire speechifying you've done that before um >> I'll be there >> perfect >> you get a lot of bodies there >> well a
079perfect place >> it's like asking questions and things along those lines. So, I'm happy to take, you know, 10 minutes. >> So darn cute. >> But there's no place to park. >> There is no place to park. [laughter] >> That's right. Especially with the snow. >> You guys want to lift your spirits just out on some of these school assembly. They are amazing. >> So darn cute. >> I know. I wish they had them at the middle school and high school more cuz they are freaking amazing. I try not to miss one even when my child's not performing because all the kids are so cute the other night. >> Your son and Carla go. They [clears throat] were so adorable. [laughter] >> I know. I miss Carl. >> They did a great job. >> It's
080that times 100 in these schools. >> They're really well done. >> Kindergarters. >> Oh my god. >> They're very well done. >> Can we like bring some kids to the voting? [laughter] What theater party? >> No, cuz they're supposed to be in school. >> No, they're all safe. Oh, there's not >> school because some of the voting places >> right March school. >> Yeah, there's no school in the [laughter] >> March. I have a whole month to pretend. >> So, even though they don't vote in the school, there's no school. >> There's no school. >> Typically, there's voting at schools normally. So, [cough] having votes, >> they vote in some of our SA schools and we try to align our calendars. >> Okay. >> During we voted here. >> We did. We did. We did.
081We did. All right. Okay. >> So, we got you working on that. We've got >> u and then so the question is is do we want to meet one more time before the vote or do we want to meet after the vote? >> I'm just going to throw that out there as the last kind of thing >> before. >> Okay. Before >> I'm not I don't think we need to meet again. I think there's a clear action >> but I think we should communicate. >> Okay. >> So, everybody communicate if we need to meet again just scream. We'll all kind of take a consensus vote. Um and then otherwise we'll kind of do maybe do one more wrap up at >> after the vote. >> After it passes. >> Yes. >> After it passes. >>
082Okay. [laughter] One thing that I think just if to encourage people for turnout is the fact that it is 60%. I mean that's a big deal. And that you know you really really really need to turn out because it's not just a majority. It's 60%. Yeah, three-fifths is big. I mean, it's >> it's we New Fields has one of the highest turnout in all of SAU towns. However, we've had contentious ballots for five years. So, I am recycling. >> Good point. Good point. Right. >> Recycling. >> Exactly. >> Yeah. So, [laughter] yeah, 100%. So, it's this is this is a this is an off year. So, it would be nice to make sure that this um gets over the line. So, how many votes do we need? >> We need a 60%. >> That was
083based on the number of people who typically vote. If we get a lower >> 60% of whoever shows up, correct? It's not 60% of the voting public. It's 60% of the people who have voted have to be voting in a positive nature. And when you have 1300 registered voters and on some years 500 people show up and this year maybe even fewer are going to show up because there's nothing >> there's nothing impassionate about. >> Yep. >> And it depends on the weather. >> Yep. >> So depends. >> Good point. Good point. But hence our solid communication plan [laughter] >> pick you up. >> They do say that makes a big difference. Well, they do move it though if it's a if it's a snow day. They >> typically they don't they they haven't. >>
084Remember that huge snowstorm? I' I've stood out the snowtorm was so awful. I mean, we were in We [snorts] were standing up with signs in a blizzard. >> Yeah. >> And they changed it. >> I know they've done it once at least since we've lived here. >> They they postponed it. >> So, is it delayed? >> It was probably like a I don't think federal emergency kind of thing. still be a delay on >> probably not going to try to make phone calls >> anyway. Okay, so we got a good plan. Yeah, you can turn that off. Okay.