001kid. >> That's crazy. >> Just cuz they know I don't like it. >> Yeah, absolutely. >> Drive me nuts at ice hockey, too. >> We'll need a drink. >> But ah, it was fun playing with them. >> Yeah. >> Are you okay? >> Doing well. How was Joey? >> We met Deian Pelier. >> Pelers, did you you probably don't remember. Were you at the Air Force thing? >> I was. Yes. >> Yes. So, good friends of ours. their son Michael Pelleter is in the Air Force. >> Oh, I got you. >> Sorry. >> It's okay. Dan um and Dave at the Dave. >> Yeah. >> I mean, I'm sure I met them. >> I think they were talking to your parents, too. >> Gotcha. But, uh she's like, "Oh, we met nice young man tonight."
002They're like, "Yep, I know exactly who he is." >> So, you got the uh >> Yeah, there's a lot of people. It was it was a real nice event, but >> nice. >> It's definitely tired. >> You have a focus yet? Do you know? It's too early. >> I don't fully know my major yet, but I want to go to like after after school is over. I want to like pilot training school. >> You do? Okay. >> We'll see. I feel like I don't know. All right. Do you want to come before? She's coming. >> Before would probably be preferable. Well, not that it makes >> um do you think either >> um Tuesday? Wait, today's Tuesday, so either Monday, Wednesday, or Friday next week. >> Hello. How are you? >> Good. How are you?
003>> Possible. >> Wednesday. Are you trying to schedule? >> Yeah, exactly. You still agree? >> Do I have to do anything else? >> You say morning or afternoon? >> 11. >> I have a meeting. >> I'm overcommunicating. >> Is that right? >> Amounts of communication recipient right up here at the table. >> I know. How's it going? Starting out. high class. >> It's a little kids table right here. >> I I ain't making the comment class. >> Absolutely. >> Um >> that Monday after vacation or are you feeling >> I'm beautiful ladies here? >> Yeah. Remember when Rob the background? >> Okay. >> Weird, right? Yeah, exactly. >> Yes, >> we start getting into >> I have an AP and you're like >> with an extraordinary amount of clothes in my arm. >> Same problem
004with AP. >> Oh my gosh. children think uh would um Tuesday, Thursday. Civics field. >> All right, guys. All right. Is everybody ready? >> You look very ready. >> I've seen two phones. I've never seen two. >> I know. It like died from a dead battery, so it's like really struggling to wake up. So instead, I'm just going to be double rostered. It's going to be super exciting. Okay. Hi everybody. We're here for a 5:15 meet at public hearing for the Hopkins School Board here at Maple Street in Kentucky, New Hampshire. Um >> uh for the school district building repair and maintenance fund. I am going to read aloud the actual public notice. Um, the Hopkins School Board will hold a public hearing on Tuesday, April 14th, 2026 at 5:15 p.m. at Maple Street School
005at 194 Maple Street with New Hampshire 03229 in the cafeteria for the withdrawal of funds from the school district building repair and maintenance fund for the following $526,000 $160. I said the dollars wrong. Uh, for the Hogan Middle School Boiler Upgrade Project. Um, at the schoolboard meeting scheduled for 5:30 p.m., the board will vote on an action item regarding the withdrawal from the school district building repair and maintenance fund. All interested residents are encouraged to attend the hearing and provide written or oral comments. Um, so with that, are you ready? >> All right. All right. I'm Jim Rosiki, director of facilities. Thank you for the opportunity to just walk you through uh this project visually. So, um I have about six or seven slides to go through and just provide a little bit more detailed
006explanation on the project overall. So, this is at the Hopinson Middle High School. Um this is a picture of our current boiler setup. Uh we have two uh existing boilers that do um the majority of the building or all of the building I should say. Boiler number one was installed in 2017 uh part of the performance contract which you'll hear more about towards the middle part of the school board meeting because I'll be updating on energy. And then uh the other one is 1997. Um and that is the one that's going to be uh replaced. So boiler number two is the uh is the one that's going to be replaced. I'll explain more details as we get on. So um this is a picture of the boiler room. Uh again, these are the two boilers,
007but the picture on the bottom is where the main circulator pumps are located. They're overhead. So, those two pumps will be replaced. Um the picture doesn't depict it well, but in the upper right hand corner, there's this big cylindrical white bucket thing. That's a dirt and air separator. It's a critical component to boiler systems that take out pressure and dirt from the system, and it's uh critical for normal operations. So that will be that will be replaced as well. So a little bit about what we have now. Boiler 2, which we're taking out completely, is 29 years old. Average lifespan for a uh oil oil um cast iron boiler is between 25 and 30 years old. So we are right there. Um we've had had some issues with it. Um but it's been it's been
008uh limping along, I should say. Uh the other one is in is in perfectly fine shape and we don't see the need to uh change that now. However, what we will be changing on this is that red uh that red device in front of the big blue one that currently is an oil uh burner and that is going to be changed over to a gas burner. So the whole part of this is we're moving ourselves out of oil and going to gas. So um that's for the uh for the two boilers. That's the work being done there. Uh we also have an 8,000galon underground storage tank uh that is 40 years old. That is really the main point of this whole project. Um that has not only is beyond end of life u but I'll
009I have another slide that explains a little bit more but there was a a pretty serious uh red tag warning by the department of environmental services uh for some leaking going on. So that was a big thing the district dealt with. I believe the 2017 18 time frame. So uh bandaids I should say were made to that. Uh but we are well beyond the life expectancy of that. Uh the chimney uh we've again I have a next slide that shows that a little bit more in detail but that is going to be uh replaced almost fully. Um and that's original to the building back in 1956. Um, and then just to reiterate, what's going to remain is uh the big blue boiler on the lefth hand side minus the red uh burner and the two
010hot water heaters which is all part of the that boiler room system. All right, so a little bit more on it. We're um we're replacing the oil boiler. Uh we're replacing it with a Vman propane gas condensing boiler. Has efficiency capabilities of 98%. Um we're looking at a 20 to 25 year life expectancy which is a little bit more than a regular uh gas condensing boiler. So we are getting a superior machine. Uh they're vented a little bit differently. So uh venting uh modifications are going to be debate be demade for that boiler. More specifically um it's a redundant system. So it'll be able to heat the whole building. Um it's actually two boilers in one. So if one section goes down or needs service, the other one will be in operation. So we'll have
011full redundancy there uh if we have um bigger issues at some point. Uh the like I said before, the circulator pumps will be replaced with speed drives and those are devices that go on motors that sense flow, sense temperature, and are pretty sophisticated to slow down the speed of that motor, which actually yields quite a bit of energy savings. instead of 100% on 100% off, it modulates. So that's uh a little bit about that. Um so again, the 40-year-old out 8,000galon oil storage tank will be removed. That's on the um the teachers entrance side of the building. Um and a replacement was scheduled for 2019, but again, I wasn't here during that time. A lot of us at the stable weren't. So, uh, we don't know why, but maybe those repairs were made, uh, really
012well, but it's still, um, DEES is still strongly recommending we get that changed or replaced. This is a little picture of the chimney. Um, that white stuff around the side, that's salt, actually. That's from moisture getting in through brick work. You'll see that on buildings and stuff like that. Um, that's just a sign of age and, uh, degradation of of the mortar. in that the black um I don't know except for dirt. Um there's no cap on the existing chimney. So a lot of the elements uh get in and around that and will degragate uh the concrete uh slab up at the top of that. Again, I don't know why a cap wasn't put on at that time uh or at all during the life of the school, but um this is where we are.
013Uh this is the picture of the location of the oil tank. You can't see it because it's underground. Um, but that's the cement uh slab that holds that and um uh is where it's filled. Again, that's on the teacher's entrance side of the building, so it's not anywhere near uh where the boiler room is. So, that's all going to be removed and taken out. >> All right. A little bit of uh change. I thought this would be a good visual of where the new propane tank system is going. This is in the back of the high school. Everybody sees this from the back parking lot area as you were typically entering into the gymnasium entrance. So that's a music room. Um you guys might remember uh two years ago we had that big windstorm and
014we had to get all those trees out because they were breaking and >> uh we won't even talk about what could have happened. But um with that gone, that really opened up the space to uh put four underground um propane tanks there. We're going to trench where that white line is. that will be uh that hot top will be cut up. New new lines going into the boiler room which which is right on the left hand side where that white cylinder in that car is now. So it's very very close that that uh the boiler room existing. Um they are going to be buried so there shouldn't be much disturbance uh to that area visually though we're going to put a fence back up and do some other landscaping in that area. That is a
015pretty good spot for um students to at the high school to enjoy lunch. So, a little bit more landscaping on this project is going to be required. We're going to put down some wood chips. Um, we're also going to take care of those old uh uh railroad tie stairs that are going up that are um in really really poor shape and and really a safety hazard at the moment. Uh that's going to be all weaved into this project at the end. Um again, I I don't want to reiterate everything that I just talked about, but I'll I'll point out one or two other things. Um, but where that that uh existing tank is at the end of the arrow with the white line, uh that is only a temporary tank. We had that installed last
016year because we had uh the two new gas um hot water heaters done and uh we only knew that this was going to be a temporary solution. So, that is coming out. Uh we also have a propane tank that feeds the kitchen appliances right now. So, we're going to tie in the water heaters, the kitchen, and the new boilers into one tank farm to uh to better manage that. Uh, obviously, t uh paving and uh the the the paving of the trench is going to be needing to be required. Also, where they take out the oil tank, that's right in where that ballard is, where the teachers entrance. So, we're probably going to lo lose a lot of that pavement, which that's just going to be need to be resurfaced. Uh just two really important
017components of this project. So we partnered with energy management consultants about two years ago to do a full-scale energy audit and equipment um replacement plan for all of our systems in the district. And uh this was a part of that. They not only provide that service but they also uh do construction management of of projects. So uh we are really anxious to partner with them for the mechanical portion of this project. So they'll be doing the pumps, the boilers, uh the gas lines and anything mechanical related. Um so there will be uh oversight and management of all that that system. Um however um the oil tank removal, the new tanks that are getting installed, the chimney work and the landscaping. Um I've already been giving quotes uh even since last year trying to get ahead
018of this project. So I will not have them manage that portion of the project, but we'll work together of that. So, um, you can think about it this way. We're not paying somebody else a fee to manage it when the leg work is already done. And, uh, that's that's the intention there. Um, just a really quick thing about, uh, the propane tanks. We and the CIP had talked extensively about owning versus leasing. Uh, companies that we're with now or other companies local. Um, we felt very, very strongly about uh, continuing our partnership with HR Cluff right down the road. um they will uh provide those tanks for us, give us a spectacular deal on propane, but we're going to be using a lot of propane there. Um just like what we did with oil. I
019will explain that later on in the board meeting for the energy update. So you'll see see some true numbers there. So we um we feel very very strongly about continuing that partnership. And uh on to the juicy stuff. Uh this is our financial breakdown. Um so all the mechanical stuff through EMC is a little bit north of 400,000 um 26,000 and change for uh the oil tank removal. That also includes uh loming and seating um over that area and doing uh quite extensive uh testing and paperwork needs to be done with the department of of environmental services. Uh the chimney work uh that is going to need to be rebuilt from the roof line up. So, that's a new brick and mortar um chimney top with a cap and a new liner installed uh propane
020tank installation. There's there is a fee there for connecting gas. And then, uh we have a our landscaping which includes uh all the stuff that I talked about in the fencing and the paving around uh 169. We do feel like a um you may look at the overall number and be like the contingency may be a little low. Um but um the way that energy management consultants works uh for the core mechanical project they pride themselves on no change orders. So their price is what it what it is. Um so uh they really do their homework, their leg work and engineering. So any other um item that may be encountered over and above uh they will eat that cost. So that was another um uh benefit to us to go with them. So any um
021sort of unspent funds that uh may be remaining, so we don't have to dip into the kitchen at all. Um that will all remain in the maintenance trust account. Uh Energy Management Consultants estimates we're going to gain about $25,000 a year of fuel savings over oil. So that's pretty significant. Um and uh we're excited about that. Uh also um they're suggesting about $2,000 a year in operational savings. And what that really means is oil maintenance is more involved than propane. Um there's also again since we are an operating underground oil tank site, there are fees from the state of New Hampshire for getting our oil tanks inspected on a routine basis. Those can range I think we pay like $1,500 a year. God forbid there's an issue. Um there's an added expense to it. So
022to do away with all that um I am very happy to go away from oil and we had a successful project here last summer. So it's um a lot of the this project similar to that and then uh we're going to get a rebate um around $15,000 for uh the NHS program for u for the this. So, last but not least, uh we talked about this extensively with the CIP committee and we are all in favor and anxious to get started on this project this summer. So, >> right. >> Hope I didn't bore you guys, but um I'll take any questions that you may have. >> Okay, that was wonderfully comprehensive. Thank you so much. Does anyone have any questions? No, I mean the CIP I we met a couple weeks ago and I want
023to say I appreciate you looking at it from five ways from Sunday and keeping the piping up above rather than bringing it down. That saved thousands of dollars. So appreciate you looking at that. >> Thank you. Yeah, this is uh this took a whole year to get to this point of like how are we going to reconfigure the boiler room? We make the pumps more serviceable by doing a whole lot more repiping and that and you talk numbers and you talk strategy and this is the best strategy that we've come up with for our most bang for our buck to accomplish what we need. So, thank you for mentioning >> we've downplayed it but the the tanks are taking time bomb. >> Yeah. I'll also say I've been this has been even on the old
024school CIP before you started Jodella's work. that's been on there and this was a project we would potentially have to bond uh which it's not a great interest rate environment if that was the option we had to go. So I'm really glad that we have been allocating to the CIP uh and can do this out of the CIP trust. >> I echo that. Thank you for the community for supporting the CIP year after year. This is extremely important and if we had issues mid year where we didn't have enough money the CIP would be sucked. Um, so thank you to the community and the board for supporting that. >> Right. >> Anyone else? >> And I guess I would just sort of underscore CIP, you know, I think this point's been made, but I'll make
025it again. You know, the the concern is to try to get the tank out before it leaks because if it leaks, the cost would be uh, you know, by many factors greater >> to the town. So it makes sense in terms of, you know, keeping the kids warm, but it also makes sense in terms of trying to spend our money judiciously and be proactive instead of reactive. So I think that make that point again. >> Great. Okay. We are at the public comment portion of the evening. I know that for all of you amazing soap box kids, you have been dying for this moment for the public comment for the public hearing. I'm just kidding. But if you do want to come up, uh, you are more than welcome to. Uh, we ask you state
026your name and address and try to keep your comments to three minutes. Okay, great. With that, we are going to close the public hearing. Are we good? Thank you, Jim. >> Thank you. >> Is everyone good to move on to the next? Because we've got some pretty great Maple Street School students. Okay. All right. >> Okay. You ready, Alex? >> We're going to keep rolling. Okay. All right. Now we're done. And now we're starting again. Hi everyone. Welcome to the April 14th meeting of the Hopkins School Board. This is a regular meeting following a public hearing we had at 5:15. Uh I am joined here today by Jonathan Dunlap, Jonathan Cohen, Suzanne Carmichael, Andrea Folsson will be here around 6 PM. She's currently driving down from the North Country. I'm Dulsey Madoma. Our superintendent Amy
027Doyle, our business administrator, Laura Taylor, our director of facilities. >> I'm not staying here. >> It's okay. It's great. You're here. uh Jody Con, our board secretary, our amazing students, Lucy Beardmore, and future Air Force Academy student, Kipling Headquist, and Alex Co, who's running technology. If everyone could join me to say the pledge of allegiance, that would be great. >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Okay, we have three sets of minutes to approve. One for the public hearing at our last meeting on >> have March 31st, one for the regular meeting on March 31st, and one for the non-public on March 31st. Do I have a motion to approve
028all three sets of minutes? >> So moved. >> Second. >> Thank you. Uh any discussion? >> Sure. >> All those in favor? >> I opposed. Terrific. Thanks, guys. We are at the first public comment portion of the meeting. If you would like to come up, please state your name and address. And we ask that you keep your comments to three minutes. We will have a second public comment portion at the end. Okay, great. Um Lucy and Kip, what do you have for us today? >> Um all right, I'll start us off. I feel like it is a pretty busy time of year. I don't know if it's just cuz it's the spring of my junior year and it feels like there's a million things going on, but I think the whole school is pretty busy
029as well. Um, so starting off, um, last week the juniors took the SAT. Um, so the first half of the alphabet was on Tuesday and then the second half of the alphabet plus the French exchange kids were on Thursday. Um, I thought it went well. Um, staff like faculty and guidance do a lot so it's not super stressful. um and a lot of preparation ahead of time. Um they had like pump up music going on when we walked in. Um so that was interesting. And then everyone had like sort of motivational notes at their desk from the different teachers which I thought was really sweet. >> Um but yeah, that went well. Um we're also sort of in the middle of prom planning season. Um so I think it's going well. A lot of work
030has gone into it. um on behalf of the prom committee. Um right now tickets are open to juniors and seniors. Um and then next week it opens to sophomores and any um out of district uh guests. Um so yeah, prom is uh on May 9th at Mount Sip. Um and we'll have pictures at Cool Tail beforehand like we normally do. Um we're still looking for a DJ. Um kind of getting down to the wire here. Uh so if anyone knows anyone, let me know. Um, also last week, uh, was the high school play. Um, I embarrassingly had never been to a high school play. Uh, but I was very happy that I made it to this one. It was really good. I was super impressed. Um, it was A Wrinkle in Time. Um, and there
031was only like a dozen or so actors and actresses, but I thought they did a fantastic job. Um, clearly a lot of work went into it. Um, both on stage and sort of behind the scenes, so it was really enjoyable. Um and then looking ahead on Friday, um or I should say on Thursday, uh Kip and I are visiting Carol Martin School. Um so looking forward to that. Um talk to some of the kids and then I'll be meeting with um a group of third graders um as they're launching uh their composting program next week. Next week for Earth Week. Um, so we're going to sort of plan out, I think, an assembly. Um, go over how best to sort of market that to the rest of the students. Um, and then on Friday, um,
032right after school, we've got the clothing swap. So, Maple Street School and, um, high school environmental action club joint clothing swap. Um, I strongly encourage people to donate, uh, if they have clothes, uh, that they're looking to um, clean out. We got donation bins all around town and at the schools. Um, and then right after the clothing squad, there's an underassman dance, so that should be fun. Right back to back. Yeah. >> Awesome. >> Thanks, Lucy. Lucy always says spectacular job. So, I'll try and keep my thoughts as on topic as that. Uh, so I want to say Jim, thank you very much for your presentation. That was incredibly helpful as well. I do want to point out that having a chance to travel around to a lot of different schools, be it for sports
033or a lot of math team and other clubs I participate in, our school is one of the best maintain schools that I've seen in New Hampshire. And you see like some of these statistics and numbers and it looks like we're either falling behind on something or have so much work to do. But I feel like that's just the nature of such a large building and addressing them uh in a timely manner is incredibly helpful. and we all have these schools that frankly sometimes look a bit run down and uh stressed. So, we appreciate that. Um on the topic of sports, uh thankfully we have a sports team unlike uh some of that that's being questioned from other schools across the state, but um both lacrosse teams won their first game. Softball won their first game.
034baseball uh unfortunately fell short, but they did win uh one of their scrimmages that they played and then track had their first uh meet, the Pelum Invitational, where uh I'm actually unsure how the girls did. Probably won it. They always do. Um but the boys the boys did uh pretty well, too. So, um, on topic of Maple Street School, Lucy and I, we just coordinated that next Thursday we will be visiting there and get a chance hopefully to talk to some students, sit down on class maybe. Um, and so looking forward to that. Additionally, coming up this this Friday, we have our um, spring fling dance that student council is putting on. So, that should be entertaining. Um, and I also want to give a few more props to uh Lucy's grade. Uh, junior class
035has done a pretty marvelous job with this prom planning stuff. Has dropped the cost significantly from previous years. Uh, so looking forward or it's nice to only have to pay $50 this year for prom and uh exciting to have a change of venues going to Sunbe this year. So that should be a lot of fun. Uh I mean lastly senior class is kind of wrapping things up a little bit. We have uh senior trip all planned out. Senior gift um planned and like getting into the works because the U maintenance team is going to be taking care of the staircases which was our initial thought. Uh we have chosen to really focus on targeting like the gym and helping improve the gym along with some other minor um changes like funding some like scholarships that
036um need funding. Uh and also help purchasing some like microwaves or other just more need uh more wants than necessities but still useful items to have. But overall again busy time for sure at the high school. I'm sure it's busy for everyone else uh with things feeling a little bit hectic right now, but I feel like things for the most part like normal are going quite well. Haven't had any real trouble issues that are super mainstream at school. Um, >> which yeah, I'm not sure what goes on, but >> hasn't been too bad for uh bathroom. >> Yeah, bathroom stuff. Thankfully, bathrooms have been open and clean and pristine. So, very thankful for all that. Food's been great at high school, so it's not too much to complain about. >> Awesome. Thanks. Thank you both.
037Any questions for our student reps? >> Lucy, what was the date of the clothing swap? >> Uh, Friday. >> Friday. This Friday. And no tech issues with SATs this year? >> Nope. >> Sparkly Chromebooks. No, I have no idea. I'm just >> Wasn't it was it last year or Yeah. Okay, perfect. Thanks. Anyone else? >> All right. Amazing work, you guys. Thank you. >> Any comments from the board to lead us off? >> Thanks, Lucy. Thanks, K. >> Okay. All right. I will just say the play was extraordinary. I do think we should market it more heavily at the lower schools because it they are they do such a good job and if there were going to be little kids who had a great entree to theater, being able to see the big kids on
038their home turf, I think is amazing. That was great. Okay guys, your moment is here. Our student highlight this evening is a Maple Street School soap box speeches. Carrie, you want to come on up or Dr. Cindon? I'm so sorry. >> Yeah. >> Hi. >> Very excited. I was meeting with Michelle today and she told me her goal as a social studies and writing teacher is to develop effective communication skills in both writing and speaking. So tonight you're going to see is the speaking uh all of the students in sixth grade brainstormed an important topic that they were very passionate about. They researched the topic and they wrote so speeches. So I'm not going to say much more because I know Michelle wants to share a few things with you. But these students are here
039tonight to recite their speeches to >> Yes, I am Michelle Bigford, social studies and writing teacher in sixth grade and uh we've had the fortunate opportunity to participate project soap box. It was originally introduced through New Hampshire Civics and McM Challenge. And the speeches that the kids all wrote range from homelessness to mental health to more recess. And we're very proud to say that Tori Kerry became one of the finalists for New Hampshire. And we're still waiting to see if she will participate in the national uh competition in Chicago. She was a sixth grader and then competing against 11th graders um and ninth graders, eighth graders. So, she was by far the youngest uh and did an amazing job. Uh so, we're waiting to hear back on that and should very uh hear back very
040soon. And as Krie said, um my biggest goal is to give my my students a chance to be heard and to make change. They they can make change even at this young age. So, these wonderful people back here, they're going to introduce themselves. Um, and we have one person especially dressed up in his his hat. I said dressed up means I need to wear my Texas hat. So, let's do it. So, um, so anyway, we have three speeches. One on war recess. Um, one on languages and the last one on custodial appreciation. And You >> guys ready? >> For that one. >> The three boys are coming up and they're awesome, just so you know. And the reason why we chose these is because this applies to our Okay, there's a lot of speeches that
041that were wonderful and awesome and Torres is on homelessness. So, um, anyway, I wanted them to have the power because a lot of kids were like, well, why do I write this if I don't have any voice? And I said, well, we'll do it. See what we can do. We can talk to everybody. So, here you go. >> Okay. Get right up close. >> Do you remember the clock at school, not being able to focus on the test in front of you? Hello. recess for childhood. We asking for students with district to adopt a plan to include recess in all grades or at the very least middle school. It has been documented that recess helps with performances. The CDC reports that it benefits and students mental emotional physical wellbeing. When I have recess, I feel
042refreshed and ready to recess. By the end of the day, I know I struggle to focus according to our children. scientist. In a recent interview with two, they said that they are incredibly tired at the end of the day and really felt like that they would have more energy and focus if they had recess. A former Hington teacher. She said students in her latest block was driving and really struggling to class. Recess would help solve this problem. >> The major thing right now is where are the older recess? When are they going to have time? You could just dedicate a field to things such as flag football or volleyball. So the older may get fresh air and sunshine. They could go outside periods or turn all classes by 15 I mean by few minutes. So
043you have about 15 minutes that can make a real difference in the kids life. Kids will be happier and get better grades on test in Hogington. We are so lucky to have reset so much nature around us and we should take advantage of this. Please consider reset. Thank you very much. >> Hello. Okay. Do you want us to ask questions or what should we >> if you want to question, you know, >> Okay, great. >> Yeah. I've got I've got a question. I think you boys did an excellent job. Um it's not an easy thing to speak in public and I think you you guys did a good job. It's a brave thing to do. How did you choose your topic? >> Well, I was just so trying to focus at the end of the
044day. >> I just have way too much energy and I focus like our last year. It's kind of like sad or anything like >> Yeah. after school. So recess time outside. >> Well, I I will say my my son is in his first year at Maple Street and it was a big transition going from Harold Martin to Maple Street in terms of recess. So I very much agree with your points. >> Awesome. Any other one more? >> How'd you choose your evidence? because there's a lot out there, right? Like how did you decide what you were going to include? >> Part of it is gave us some evidence already and the other half we >> look at. Yeah. >> Colin had a whole section on evidence. >> Yeah. He gave oral attributions, varied sources. >>
045This English teacher approves. >> That's great. >> Well done. >> I think we could ask a lot more. You guys, this was great. >> Thank you. >> Tell me. tardor shalom guten morgan nihow. I just said good morning or hi in five different languages. In fact, that is what my whole soapbox speech is about. Good evening. My name is Mariela Pette and today I'm here to talk to you about a problem we have in Hington and frankly all over the United States. We need to start teaching languages to kids when they first start grade school in kindergarten and throughout elementary school. Some reasons why I think this is such a big problem are when kids get older, they may choose to stop speaking their chosen language that they want to learn. But if you have
046kids start learning when they're younger, it is more likely that they remember most of the things they've learned about that said language and travel the world. When you teach something to younger kids, it's just something that's part of their daily routine. They wouldn't know anything different than not having to learn their language as a part of their school day. In Manchester, there are schools where kindergarters are learning either French or Spanish, and their teachers speak French and Spanish and French all day to them. These young people are learning to speak a different language on top of English, too. I'm so jealous of these kindergarteners because I would have wanted to be taught a different language when I was young and speak it all day long. Unfortunately, I don't have a time machine, so I can
047go back in time in my langage. kindergarten. So instead, I think it is my job to get teachers to teach a different language in Hopington. Another idea would be to teach American sign language. Think about the people who have family members that are deaf. They have no way of communicating with their family if they don't know sign language. If it's possible, I want to add sign language as another option for kids to learn. That way, if your kids didn't want to actually learn a language where you have to speak, they could just learn sign language. Kids with de family members or Community members would really benefit from having their kids learn a little bit of sign language so they could actually talk to each other. Imagine a world where nobody could talk to anybody except
048people who knew their language. People would just stay isolated in their country and when they did choose to travel, they wouldn't be able to communicate with the people working at the airport and the hotels they wanted to stay at. I know that's what we have English for, but trust me, it's a lot more fun to learn a different language than just your own. People in other countries are so used to speaking their language that they might not know a lot of English. So, make it easy on those people. Just speak their language instead. Sorry, English, but we're kicking you out. Now, imagine a world where everyone could talk to anybody using that language, and you wouldn't have to go to a country and not know how to speak that tongue. I have a question for
049you. Do you want to travel the world when you're older? Do you want to see the Great Wall of China and the Eiffel Tower? What about the coliseum and the Burj Kha? Well, if you want to come and explore and see the world apart from just your country, then are going to have to learn all those languages so they can communicate with people from other countries. Now, I'm not saying that every single kid in the in the whole entire world should learn every single language that was created. I just want them to learn a language of their choice and be happy learning their chosen language earlier in life. If we can't have kids learn those language in their school curriculum earlier in life, then we need to have a language club. It could be a
050group of kids that stay after school and could just freely speak their language or learn their langage with volunteers who are fluent in that language or teachers who know how to teach that language. Did you know that in Switzerland they speak four different languages? According to educations.com, in Switzerland, 62% of the population speak German, 23% speak French, 8% speak Italian, and 5% speak Roman. Also, kids that live in Switzerland are required to learn at least one other language at a very young age other than the one they already know. If we get languages started when kids are in kindergarten, kids will benefit so much from that and they may grow up to be great speakers of whatever tongue they may choose to learn. I truly believe that the world would be more united if people
051spoke each other's languages. So we could really communicate with each other and bring the world together as a whole. Couple questions from the board. >> So what language do you want to study next year? How did you pick Spanish? >> Um, I just figured, um, a lot of people use it more around the world than French, and I figured if I I kind of want to see parts of the world that I think it would be more convenient for me to learn Spanish than like French or German. >> No German, >> no English. >> Amazing. >> Great. Do you have you have you practiced learning any languages thus far? >> Um I do do a lingo. >> You do? >> Yeah. >> Wow. >> Well, that's lucky. >> I was also I I think that
052if you learn languages when you're younger, you can also pick up a native accent much more fluently than if you learn later in life. So, that's also an advantage. You can sound like a pro. >> Cool. Thank you. This is wonderful. the best. Do your kids go to a well clean educated school? Well, I know. We all do. You notice I stuck the word clean into my first sentence. Here's a real one. Two lessons, you guessed it, custodians. Us kids wake up, go to school, do make me stop and think who picks up those messes, who wakes up before, I'll tell you. I think his should I walked into the school bathroom. I looked around and I saw all over the pile of soap on the ground to toilet paper everywhere in wet paper towels
053on the floor right next to the trash can where people don't have the responsile. It's kind of like say you just clean your whole No one and I mean no one not even your mom says anything. How would you get you thinking your house is hard? How about playing the whole school in I practices here at the most heartwarming thing is when you walk outside the school you will hear back in the hallway at night and still when I'm done with this speech I hope everyone of you know that Thank you or smile especially to someone who work so hard means something. I hope you take this into consideration because acting like school itself every night is absurd. They are custo people too who deserve to be thank you for your time. >> That's great.
054Any questions? >> We wish we had here. >> I know. He's the best. >> Have you shared that with any of our custodians? I I feel like >> Yeah, >> Jim was listening pretty carefully. >> Yes, that was lovely. >> Best board update ever. >> I think that's lovely. Thank you. I think it they are a hugely important part of the school and you probably don't think about this, but there's a time of year when a stomach virus tends to move through both Maple Street and Herald Marin. And truly, our custodians go above and beyond to make sure everything is clean and safe and wonderful. in addition to the day-to-day, you know. So, thank you. That was terrific. Really good work. Thank you. >> All right. Any other questions or do you want to take
055a picture? >> That was um that was amazing, you guys. I cannot believe how much uh how much you put together, the the sources that you put together. I think your writing was exceptional. I think your speaking and annunciation was exceptional. And it is pretty scary, I think, to get up not just in front of your parents and your siblings, but also in front of a board. Um, so really good work. I'm really proud of you. Okay, is it okay if we take a picture with the kids? Parents, is that okay? Ready? Come on up. Can we squeeze in a little bit more? >> Three, two, one. >> All right. Great job. Thank you. >> Thank you for letting us have a moment. >> Good luck if you guys are still competing. Thank you guys
056so much and thank you parents for bringing your kids, you know, makes me emotional. weird out. >> Yeah. >> Shouldn't have told that joke. Nope. >> Lucy, >> what's your streak on Dualingo? >> 680. >> Something. >> What is the streak on dualingo, >> right? >> Every day. Oh, doing like looking at it every day. Mhm. >> All right, >> guys. That was pretty pretty amazing. I love hearing from our students. Thank you for making that happen. Uh SAU team. Okay. Okay. Now, um we are going to we had a public hearing right before this meeting at 5:15 to talk about uh withdrawal from the CIP for the purpose of the Hopkins Middle School Boiler Upgrade Project. I'm going to make a motion. We get a second, we can discuss and then go from there.
057Sound good? Should we? >> Well, >> yeah. Do we have a motion to approve a withdrawal of up to $526,160 from the school district building repair and maintenance expendable trust fund for the purpose of the Hopton Middle School Boiler Upgrade project? >> Yeah. So moved. >> Second. >> Great. Okay. Any discussion? What are our thoughts on this? >> Needs to be done. >> Yes. >> Yeah. It is the priority. It's why CIP was invented. >> Yep. It is a priority. I think Jim sitting in the corner did an amazing job putting together the presentation. I welcome the public if they're just watching this part of the meeting to go and and look at the presentation which will be made available online. Um as Jim mentioned, this has been a project that's been in the works
058for a year slash for probably the better part of a decade starting to think about planning for this. So, um, I really thank Jim and also the CIP committee's work to to pull together the information, the data, the proposal, think about the timeline, and think about what would save the district money both now and long term with operational expenses and maintenance. Okay. Any other questions? Okay. As just one last reiteration, um the cost proposal is broken out in the presentation as well, but it is to um do a few things that I just want to reiterate for the purpose of this meeting. Um it is for not just the um it is for the actual core mechanical project of actually replacing the boiler, moving it to a propane gas system for the oil tank removal
059uh for the chimney work, the propane tank installation, then landscaping, paving, fencing, which will take care of a couple different places in the school and then also a um a contingency. So all that said, any other questions, thoughts, concerns? Okay. Are we ready for a vote? >> Okay. All those in favor? >> I. Any opposed? Okay. Great. Okay. Followup discussion. So, I just wanted to speak to you briefly about uh a request to wave the bid requirements on policy DJ, which is um bidding requirements for the construction management portion of this project. DJ says regarding this, all purchases between 25,000 to $74,999 may be made in the open market. When possible, these purchases shall be based on at least three competitive quotations or prices. All purchases shall be documented and completed after careful pricing. The
060reason I bring this to your um to your attention is that we would like to go with energy management consultants for the construction management portion of this. Jim did speak with us earlier that EMC has will be doing the mechanical portion. Um, they bid out, they follow all of our requirements. It's this construction management portion of it that I wanted to bring to your attention. A couple of years ago, we brought EMC in to do a municipal lease and to do that work. One of the projects was this boiler project. So, it made sense to essentially bring them in to the boiler upgrade as we started talking about it. But then I realized that we need to get a formal vote really to wave that requirement of three competitive quotes if EMC is going to
061move forward with this job. They have no contract in place with them right now, but we have verbally, you know, discussed obviously this work with them and they have done some work for us. In addition, they will be doing some engineering. Um, and it will take some of the work off of Jim as he manages both the security redesign and the boiler upgrade this summer. The pro of going out to bid certainly would be that we would be following the district policy of DJ. Um I do like to think that this is an extension of the board's vote to work with EMC on the mechanical lease and on that mechanical work with the upgrade, but to get a formal my request to you is to consider motion um a motion to wave that policy. >>
062Okay. So, do I have a motion to wave the requirement for three competitive bids for policy DJ in order to award the construction management portion of the HMHS boiler upgrade project to Energy Management Consultants, also known as EMC, for $45,423. >> Yeah. So, moved. >> Second. >> Y second. >> Any discussion? >> I just I'm just trying to process. So, Sorry. What I'm what I'm hearing you say, Laura, and what I heard you say, basically they're going to do most of the work, but the project management piece, it doesn't necessarily make sense to pull some hire an additional company >> who may come in at a lower bid, but maybe not much lower to then kind of orchestrate the work that we've already contracted this company to do, EMC to do. >> We've talked with
063them to do it. they've already started planning and and thinking about it and um what it would look like Suzanne is essentially if we had to put a bid request bids doesn't meet formal bid requirements right we had to request bids for the construction management at this point then that CM would then get quotes and then they you know they would have to do the bidding on boiler projects it could delay everything um >> and it would be that that you know 45,000 essentially of a management kind of like what we're doing with triple You know how triple is is construction is our contract man our construction management it would be like that. >> So that represents about 10 to 12% of the overall their portion of the project. >> Yep. >> So the the
064overhead the management portion is 10% of the project. >> Yes. >> Of that of their slice of it. >> Yep. But they came back to us and said specifically their construction management engineering work would be about $45,423 out of the 4087777 they quoted. I've worked with the MC in the past and we at CIP we talked about this a lot at the committee. Um they're a good they do wonderful work. We have worked with them in the past. Um and so we would look to do that in this instance as well. Um I just wanted to yeah bring it up because I know that that policy is in place. >> Yeah. And we had done um in the process of starting to work with energy management consultants. It was at the time the energy management
065committee did a a pretty good amount of work looking at um similar contractors doing diligence calling references to basically ask about the quality of EMC's work um because we knew that like hopefully we'd be able to work with them on a project and when you work with a company like that to scope and and think about um when you think about scoping projects like this it was because we were hoping that with such a high reputation on delivering what they were asking for that this would be a great place to to build a long-term partnership with >> um it makes it makes sense to me and I understand something that Jim said about um they stand by their quote which which I've never had that extensive work done on my house but you know that
066that's not the norm when you have work done and so I do appreciate that I just I have concerns in terms of we have policies in place to protect you know us and our taxpayers payers. So, I understand why in this sense like it makes sense, but I'd like us to perhaps moving forward really try to adhere to the three bid policy. >> That's fair. >> Okay. Laura, any issue or any fear that if we broke out construction management from EMC that their all-in not to exceed number would change like we'd lose that that protection >> if we broke out the EMC construction management portion of the project. Um, at this point I'm not sure if we would actually be able to find another CM that would be able to do it working in conjunction
067with the MC. So then it would probably Jim, correct me if I'm wrong. It would be you that would have to manage it. >> Correct. >> Right. You and I would have to essentially take it on ourselves versus using EMC to do that work. >> So >> and we'd have to pay them, you know, the the differential for work that they've already done, but we take that 45,000 out and we'd have to manage it internally. So is uh so is the downside to following the policy that if we ask for two other bids and we can't get them that nobody can manage the project. >> Yeah. >> That we would have to do it internally. >> I I just don't see We can certainly try. >> Why wouldn't they be the only bid >> and
068then get the contract? >> We could do that. We could um look for other quotes, but when we read this, it just says, >> you know, it shall be on at least three competitive quotations or prices. >> What? >> Well, yeah, but you have to go out and you basically have to like I understand how it works. I just recognize that we have a policy and when we start, we took a lot of flack with the redesign >> and I would like to adhere to policies. We have them in place. it makes sense in this particular case to bypass that. Um, but I said moving forward, I'd really like us to at least and it may fall out that like they're the only people who can take the contract, but then we can produce those
069documents to the taxpayers saying we only got one bid. How uh so is the major downside to trying to get two other bids delay? What is the downside to getting two other bids? >> If you if you wait the policy for CM tonight, you can get them started. >> I'm saying if we don't get the contract in place, but I'm saying if we don't >> don't we yeah, we will delay further on um with the 526 as far as we know still stays in place. All of that is fine, but we would have to then, yeah, go look for bids. Um, we would talk to EMC and we would talk to ideally other CMS. It's very hard to get a construction management company to work in conjunction with MC. They kind of like to do
070it all or nothing. But we would we would ask them if it didn't work that we would ask them to do. So, does this mean that any project we do with EMC, we can't get competitive bids? We just have to do Okay. So, >> because we got competitive bids from them for the hot water tank, right? >> So, what kind of delay are we talking about to get two more bids? >> I think two to three weeks is my guess. >> So, how significant is two weeks delay? >> Kids are still in school. I don't have an answer to that. >> I know. I was looking over >> stops us from doing the project in school. I don't I don't know. Jim, do you know an answer to that? >> You mean if you want
071to put a bid out for CM? >> We don't have to do a formal bid, but if you call other companies like construction or um you know, any other CMS that would be able to do some of the engineering work and such to get a bid from them. What's the delay that we would find if you call like Stantech and one other one? >> Oh goodness. Um >> well, I don't know. They would want to do further walk. >> They would want to do walk through contract. >> Y >> um so this is like busy time, you know, like for summer. >> Um I I guess I would say one of the reasons we had the same conversation at the hot water tank last year and uh what made a lot of sense was kind
072of what Dulce was saying like we actually did interview three different CMs uh back two years ago which was seammens and uh uh and the other one see where we they presented to us this is what we do this is our approach this is our cause this is our and um we vetted a company we vetted EMC as and connected with them and partnered with them I think we didn't necessarily sign a contract but an attention that we were going to work with them exclusively. So we felt that >> we really did our due diligence on the CM side for who would we feel comfortable about about and they gave all their fees like 10 or 12% go about managing it. So, >> so in this instance, what I I guess I'm asking is um
073>> if we kept EMC involved, >> kept them still with their, you know, with our project moving forward, but use somebody else, use a different, you know, got three quotes for the just the CM portion, the 45,000 of Joe managing the job. >> That's what we're talking about. I I think where where I where I'm at when I listen to this is I I'm not like the policy I mean I'm not I'm not necessarily going to stand on ceremony if it if it doesn't benefit the district but I want to make sure I kind of understand the costbenefit analysis and I feel like it's a little like I'm I'm having a hard time getting my head around the why to wave the policy here. Um, I understand we want to work with EMC. I understand
074that we've done some vetting before and so that's led us to saying that we want to work with EMC. So, that's sort of baked in. Um, and it's a busy time of year to get bids. So, I get that. I just want to make sure that we're we're clear on the messaging as to why it is that we're waving this policy that we have presumably for a reason to make sure that we're being diligent in the spending of the of the tax dollars. Um that there's a good reason for that. >> Same way. I'm not saying I don't support it, but I but I want to make sure that that's that that messaging is is clear. >> I I just have a concern that we're setting precedent as well that we're you know but we're
075going to suspend it here and we're going to suspend it here. I think it's I mean I think of each of these opportunities like child birth everyone's its own unique opportunity that doesn't necessarily link to the other. I think that we have to think about like what are we trying to do? Um what is the best thing for the district? What is the best thing for the school? And if there's an ability for us to be able to optimize um cost and time as a function of cost knowing that we talked about like I don't know like I don't like right like there's >> that's something that we should enter into more of a contract with them. I think that um >> because it doesn't sit right with me that we've unofficially kind of promised
076people work without >> I don't think we promised people work >> that they've unofficially decided that >> we have no contract with energy management. I understand that, but it seems like there have been some conversations about working with them and they've been vetted and I appreciate that. But every time we start this process, every time a new project, then unless we enter into an extended contract, don't we have to start it over to do our due diligence? I I think that this is a I think that this is a I think you have to think about the opportunity and I think this is a large project where I think we have tried to get really comfortable with the project right like I don't know that we've ever spent half a million dollars on a CIP
077expenditure which is why we've thought about this for so long right and so trying to think about like how do we build trust to think about that boiler room and that boiler room opportunity the removal of the oil tanks making sure that happens well and per EPA guidelines Um because I I definitely hear what you're saying. I think in the and I and I also hear what you're saying where it's like I think all these policies and I do think we follow our policies. We bid out almost everything. Um and I think in this one use case it's just that it is something where we take this particular job so seriously because it's not a small chunk of money. Um and this group has done a unbelievable amount of work um to look at the
078best and most efficient way to to do it. Um so but but but all that said I definitely also hear everyone saying like the the policy is there for a reason, right? And that's that's what we want to think about. So >> and if you and if the vote you know collective majority vote is no then we will follow respect the policy and call other agencies for construction management >> and get competitive think so >> the one thing I keep coming back to is that the 45,000 is still in the in the 10% range of the whole project like it's it's in what would be contingency in any other project. So, we're not looking at the large chunk of the project. We're not dismissing that. We're now laser slicing 10 laser slicing $45,000. And I'm
079trying to balance the idea of, this is going to sound dismissive, it's not meant to be. I think the idea of getting quotes and and getting that broken out in two to three weeks is is optimistic. Mhm. >> I think I think that could end up like my understanding was that we wanted to start digging and get those tanks out the day school ended. And I think if we although I don't like the idea of getting rid of three votes, I don't like the idea of moving away from that at all. I still keep coming back to the fact that if we punt here and delay, then we're not digging in June. We're digging in August. And there's a chance it's not done before school starts. >> Yeah. Yeah. I do agree with that. I
080hear you, Jonathan. And I, like I said, in this case, I'm I'm willing to say like I I do see why it makes sense, but again, I just want to be mindful moving forward >> that it it feels it could be construed that we are not following our >> Yeah. >> No. Well said. And we're not >> we're making an exception. We're we're having a considered Yeah. We're having a considered discussion to do something different than a policy. >> We're choosing not to follow our policy. >> Yep. Okay. Any other discussions? All right. All those in favor? >> I I >> Okay. Any opposed? >> Any abstain? I'm just abstaining because I was not here for this full conversation and so I do not feel like make a >> wellrounded. Okay. Y thank you. >>
081All right. Thanks guys. Thank you. All right. Director updates. We want to start with Mandy. Hello. Happy Tuesday. if you guys had a chance to look it over. A little lengthier than normal. It was there was a lot to report on, so I wanted to make sure that I provided um the information. Um and I edited a lot so there could have been even more pages. Um but I really wanted to make sure that I was able to provide you with the feedback that we receive from our PAS monitoring, which is the program of general approved bad acronyms. and I live this world. But basically, it's really our monitoring from the state is what it all comes down to. Um it's just looking at our general asurances and breaking all that down. Um but before
082I jump into that too too much, um I did give an update on numbers so far for this year. So um the the first paragraph talks about 198 student that is all the students who are in any part of the special ed process. So they could be a referral right now. So those are the numbers we're working in right now. the numbers in the chart from that compare April to September. Those are the ones with IEPs in place. So there the numbers aren't that isn't the 198. It's not going to reflect that. Um but you'll see just the comparison from September to now that the biggest jump is prek, but that is just the way the preschool rules roll and those kiddos turned three after I met with you in se September. So that's where
083those biggest number gaps uh biggest number gaps came into play. Um but you know I I did give a brief little um summary of that process of referral because it is a little bit different than typical. We work really closely with early supports and services through community bridges and other agencies to make sure that those kiddos when they're already working with community bridges at 2 and a half. They're letting us know right away and we start meeting on this kiddo when they're two and a half so that when they turn three we're ready to have something in place because we're responsible on that day. Um, so that process is a little bit different than than our typical referrals. Um, though if a parent had a kid that was two and a half, they could refer
084to, but there is a little bit there's slight differences in the the age screen referral pieces. So really the meat of the the report is the tax report and then um our LEA determinations which came in April 2nd or April 1st, somewhere in there. Um, so as far as the PAGS reporting goes, I really was pleased overall. Anything that we found as non-compliant are things I already knew were going to be found as non-compliant going in. Um, and had already started doing corrective action for. So really, it's broken down into eight components. That first component is looking into our programming really. And um really what they look at in these is what is our I had to draft a program narrative just to talk about what we do at each building and in the district.
085I had to give them an organizational chart on what that looks like. Um providing our procedural safeguards that I have to update every year. All of our special education forms they reviewed. All of those are great completely fine. So I just wanted to highlight that because it wasn't like it seems like it's oh it's just the you know it's just the program stuff. that seems simple, but there were so many components in there that could have been found non-compliant and were we're clean. So, there's things to celebrate for sure. Um, component two is the um really looking at the performance indicators, whether that's the data dashboard or things like that that the DOE will look at. So, they'll look at things like the due diligence review. What that is is really an area where they'll
086look at complaints that come in and they'll do their due diligence to make sure that they're are they accurate complaints? Do they are they appropriate complaints? And if they if they are, they reach out to us. We've received zero. So that's why we're we're good there. But I just wanted to make sure I explained what that was because it's not something when they'll send me something that says DDR, I'm like, what does that again? Because we don't hear about it because we don't receive complaints, which is great news. Um, so all of those pieces look great. Um, and then missed my own little um, section for then looking at our I'll go into it more in the indicators report for our New Hampshire stats pieces. So, we will have to look at those pieces, especially
087the gap proficiency for grades 8 and 11 in math and and look at that and I'll have to submit to them and and what we're going to be doing to work on those pieces. Um, in the equitable services component, that is really the equitable services is for any student who's parentally placed at a private school within our school in our town's boundaries. So, for us, that's the Behill School. Um, if a student is at Beach Hill, I have to meet with Beach Hill School before we write the grants to go through and have a consultation with them about what it is and how we can support and what we do and what is child bind, what is the referral process and do all that. We have done that every single year with a signed document.
088The part that we were flagged on or found non-compliant in is we had done meaningful consultations throughout the whole year. I didn't have a document to show it, but to be fair and I talked to my regional director because I was worried that I missed a memo somewhere. a lot of us didn't document it. We just did that. We just talked to people. So, knowing the documentation was required, we started putting that into place already. So, I've been able to submit to them for this current school year any of the meaningful consultation forms that I've submitted to them. >> Um, the other piece on this component that they want us to take a closer look at and review and resubmit is our equitable services procedures. What I'm waiting to hear from them is what didn't
089meet compliance. I don't know that. Um, you know, and to be transparent, I reached out to another district who has already gone through this process and they shared their equitable services procedures that was approved. I used that template and their template to create ours and they matched. I mean, not word for word obviously, but every component matched. So, I just don't I don't know where yet I need to revise and res because the only feedback in the report was revise and resubmit. So, I'm just working with them to figure that out. Once I have that, they'll they'll have the updated uh procedures on those. Um, just trying to make sure I don't miss anything significant in there. The IEP review is where the scare like if they're looking at the record like, oh my gosh,
090we are non-compliant in 27 different instances. It is 25 of the 27 is all for service loss. People have kept service loss. All our staff have. The only way they monitor them is if they were uploaded into our Nexus system. So if we have a kid who had a related service of OT and our OT was on maternity leave and we can't find or access her files, we can't upload those. >> We knew this was going to be an issue moving in. So we had already been working all year long on making sure that we had them ready to go and uploaded for when they gave us that information. Um we still then once the report came in still had to do a training. So on March 10th, we sat with every IIA, every special
091educator, related service providers, counselors because sometimes, very rare, but sometimes our guiding counselors will provide a related service of counseling. Um, and we just talked about what those what those component what the requirements are with those and then what we need to do moving forward. Um, they have indicated we don't need to upload every single service log every single month for every single kit. It's a lot. It seems like it's a simple thing, but it's time consuming when you have to log out of one, get into another upload. It's just a lot of time. We do not have to do that. We just have to have them readily accessible. So, when they send us another round of what's called SAS numbers or student identifiers, we just have to upload what they're asking for and and
092show that we're making that corrective action over time. So, we've already started working on those pieces. Um, and then grant reporting. Um, again, we already knew there was going to be some and there was some, you know, when Michelle was here and then not here and things like that, there were some issues there. And again, this is where I'm working with the DOE and said, "Okay, you want us to tell you what our procedures are. What are you looking for?" So, once we have that information, we'll develop that and submit it. So, as far as corrective action goes, easy. And now it's just maintaining that moni the especially the IEP components that reflect it. Just make making sure that we stay on top of those and put those into place. As far as the progress
093reports, Janette and I started working on that. The first progress report was due November. Her and I went through every single IEP student to make sure a progress report was uploaded. >> They were done. So, that's those are the pieces that we're putting together to make sure that we're just monitoring that on our end over time, too. Um, so that was again, it's it's it's disappointing to have the non-compliance, but it's all fixable things that are easily fixable and we can continue to and work from um component seven and eight were really just you know they were seven no eight I'm right it's been a long day apologize um was really they did some staff surveys so we had to send them a list a personnel list of every single special education staff contracted and
094otherwise um with their certifications and all that they then and emails they then sent surveys to every one of those staff members and got feedback from them not every staff member responded to the survey Um really the biggest takeaway from it is just relevant training and increasing those opportunities for that professional development just again and that consistency across buildings. That was another like highlight I would I would take from that. Um and then we also had a parent listening center that was hosted by the parent information center. They facilitate the whole meeting. Um unless you have a student on an IEP, you are not invited to the meeting. Hard out. Um, so the only and as hard as far as the feedback goes, what happened is that the parent information center did the listening session,
095it was recorded and then transcribed. We just received parts of the transcription. So sometimes it was just like, well, was that like it was one person? >> Was it I I don't really know. But really the good feedback was of of just more consistencies in what parents were feeling like the communication at the table feels like and and what their experiences are. None of them were negative, but there were these just slight changes that you could tell like like one parent you had mentioned like when I when it was one building we had this, but at this building I really like this. >> So there's just that comparison. It was it was really great feedback but nothing I mean there really wasn't massive takeaways but when I look at it maybe I can see how
096we can build our consistency across across the board. So that was great. >> Any questions in the past before I jump into the rest of the fun ma'am? >> Yeah I um just going back to the not 27 non-compliances. >> Yeah. Um >> do you attribute like did we know that we had to be doing this? >> So service laws have been kept all along as part of the regulations, >> right? >> What we were found non-compliant is there were some service logs for an example if we had a student whose IEP started in January. So the service log had to show from that when that started through. But then that case manager is retired and we can't access those service. I can't upload them. So even though like a case manager might be logging
097when they're meeting with people and what they look like and in some cases we might have been logging the service log but then the what they were looking for in this monitoring review. It might not have included the length of the session. So it might have just said I met with Johnny on Tuesday April 14th and we worked on CDC but it didn't give them the rest of the information. So in that case it looks that's an area of non-compliance because it didn't have the specific information from a service law that they were looking for. >> I guess what I'm I'm not so much looking to micromanage that but I'm curious of you know we've been sort of running behind on IAS and I'm just wondering how how the manpower affects the lack of manpower
098affects >> the IA actually the easier ones. >> Okay. only I say that with a caveat because they they upload their services into our MSSE Medicaid log for most of our students. All we have to do is download those and upload that for those services. So some of the pieces that were found non-compliant were if the service logs weren't uploaded because we couldn't access them. That was one piece. The other is if the service logs didn't have the specific information that the DO was looking for. Now in our regulations, it just says you need to keep a log. It doesn't tell it didn't like if you look at our rule book, it doesn't tell us what needs to be in the log. The DOE has told us what needs to be in the log. So
099now we've corrected it. >> Okay. >> So that's where we've updated. I've created spreadsheets for everybody so that like here's an easy way you can track all these make sure they have these pieces of information and then we're set to go. >> All right. Thank you. And how many parents did we hear from from the listening session? >> It wasn't in the report, but when we did have two of the monitors, the reviewers come to the preschool. >> And I did ask the question, there were five. >> Okay. Thank you. >> It was virtual. >> Yeah. >> And you know, we really >> what I what I asked them after I said, I know we're only doing this every six years, but it'll help you moving forward in trying to engage in different surveys and
100things like that. I mean, we had every single case manager. I wrote a letter. every single case manager reached out to parents and shared that letter. It was on the Facebook page. It went home on the the week the principal update >> and then we did another round a week before the listening session. >> Okay. Thank you. >> So, and we didn't from what I can tell from the report there wasn't additional feedback on parent surveys because anybody any email address they got for families also received an email. >> Okay. our email from them or for a survey from them and >> there wasn't anything separate listed in a parent survey. Okay, thank you. >> All right, so LEA determinations, those are the ones I go over every year. Um, this year I'm happy to
101say that for two years in a row, we were under what was called needs assistance like almost every other district in the state. Um, this year we're at meets requirements overall. So there's improvement there for sure, which is something to celebrate. Absolutely. Um, but I always looked at it and said, "Okay, then let me look and break it down. What are some areas we can really look at?" I'll go back, we talk about it, I feel like every year where that when we're talking about the pieces that probably could use the most attention as far as how do I use that data to figure out what we're going to do next is really looking at those assessment pieces. So those assessment results are really um that area. It is still hard though because like we
102had so on the indicators if we receive a two a high score isn't good. We want a zero. So you get a zero, a one, or a two. A zero is if you surpass the state and the DOE target. A one is if you only pass one of those target. Surpass one of those targets. A two is if you didn't meet either one. Um so for like participation in grade four for reading, we got a two. Parents have every right to exempt their students accounts. So we do need but I also what am I it is their right. So there's there's work we can do in kind of just talking about how we use the data the importance of the data but it is their right to make that choice and but so for me
103I feel like I need to pay attention to it. Are there you know is it patterns is or anything like that right now I'm not seeing anything like I don't know how much movement I can make there. But really what I'm excited to the the biggest part of it I'm trying to like look at my document at the same time when that assessment piece covers so much. So it's participation for grade four, grade 8, grade 11 in math and in reading all separate scores. Then they talk about students with disabilities who meet proficiency levels. And then they break that up by grade level by reading and math. So reading grade four, reading grade eight, reading grade 11, math grade four, math grade eight, we we scored a zero. We met both state and DOE targets
104for the the the percentage of students on IEPs who meet proficiency, right? >> Great news, >> right? Still work to be done though on the proficiency gap that I think I feel I talk about every year where it's that the percentage of students without IEPs who need proficiency, the percentage of students with IEPs who need proficiency and the difference between the two but in happy report grade four my target both right so that's really you know something to celebrate and then there's work to be done in grade grade 11 and understanding where some of those where those gaps are coming from um so there's some breakdowns I will say that our regional director's group we review those as a whole so we can look at the whole region like our facilitator takes everybody's results up
105and then we can look at them. Are there trends across our region? Now, we can bring that to the state level. Are there trends across the state that we're seeing for each area? So, we'll look at that further and see if there's more from that angle. Um, but I think some of, you know, the MTSS work and things like that that we're doing now will help with some of those components and and really bringing those intervention pieces and moving them along the continuum up will also help. >> But I think, you know, There's still things to celebrate within it and I'm just grateful for the dedication of our interventionists, our special educators and everybody else who's just working so hard to make sure that our kids are making progress. So, >> thank you Mandy. >>
106Really good work. >> Questions for Mandy. >> I just have a couple um just sort of an understanding the data going back to the beginning of your report. When I look at the breakdown, you have the chart September 25 to April 26. The numbers are all pretty static or go up. >> Yeah. >> Is that far? Like, do we ever have people that require the IEP that eventually get enough services that they don't need the IEP? That the numbers go down? Like, does that happen? >> Right. But here's the thing, though. Sometimes you have those numbers go down and then somebody else comes in >> that number go. So do we have kiddos that are then um exited from special education? Yes. >> Okay. And I guess I was wondering about that because all the
107numbers are about the same. So I was taking from that that that there isn't movement going. >> Yeah. I mean is it huge leaps bound movement? No. But is there movement? Yes. >> Some of those things I'm assuming were organic things that are not going to change. Y >> So it's trying to meet the needs, >> right? like you know one of I don't say it at every meeting it depends on the student obviously but for if you have a student who has a specific learning disability or dyslexia they will always have dyslexia what do they need right so if their needs then shift from specialized instruction to accommodations they no longer need an IEP but if they continue to need the specialized instruction then we have to maintain the so that's some of those
108so they're not big shifts and big swings but there's movement for sure >> so it's different than like getting to a kid early in tier one and trying to keep them from going to tier two, tier three. >> Thank you. And then the only other thing I I think I probably ask you this every time or every other time, sorry, every time or every other time that we talk, >> you know, we have almost a quarter of the kids receiving services of some kind, 22%. >> How does that compare with other districts? Do you have any sense? Is that on a >> paric districts? We're we're well we haven't had an updated state average in a minute. Um it's been a couple of years but that's at like 19 point something. >> So we're right
109around there. >> Yeah. So it'll it'll fluctuate for everybody but in talking to my regional group we're all in similar votes. >> It's it's just kind of an astonishing every time I see that number. It's kind of an astonishing number to one out of five. >> Yeah. Yeah. But I think I think too like if I was to speak to this 10 years ago, the conversation would be different. But we talked about special education and needs differently, right? So I think there's more awareness and an understanding that helps but it helps the students but it also increases total numbers right so there there are some kiddos sorry students I have to stop saying kiddos my own thing um that in another district because of resources because of they set their own cuto offs they set
110their own eligibility criteria in some because there's no number in the in regulations that says you must see this percentile and this standard score. There is none of that. So some districts can have a little bit of fluctuation. So for us, they may meet criteria here simply because that's what we that's what we've chosen, but in another district, they won't. >> Yeah. So that could fluctuate a number or I think just talking about special education for the fact that executive functioning is now part of what we talk about for specialized instruction because some kids can't they don't have emotional regulation skills. They need to be taught those where 10 years ago that might not have shown up in an IEP anymore. >> Yeah. So I'm sorry I said it was my last but I'm just
111going to make a comment. Um, you know, as I read this morning about the House, I think it's the education department pushing through this uh school choice onto the uh finance committee trying to fasttrack that. It strikes me that this is really an issue if you have different districts using different metrics to decide need and then you're going to start moving students from one district to another that you know to go back to one of the soap box speakers. It's almost like different languages. How do you communicate effectively to meet the needs of the students? This isn't so much a question for you. was just more a comment on a real difficulty with this fasttrack legislation that is moving speedily through the house. So that's just a comment. >> All right. Well, any other questions
112for Mandy? >> I really appreciate it. I appreciate the level of detail. It is, as we have talked about every single meeting, special ed is really complicated and the level of regulatory oversight that exists is significant and there's a lot of complexity. So, thank you for taking the time to um help non-special educators, I think, understand it and also for moving us through to these departments. Appreciate it. Thanks, Mandy. >> Thanks. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thanks, Mandy. >> Dan, Miss, are you ready? >> You're up, buddy. You're not here or there. >> Come sit. What if you like? >> Sorry. >> That's great. >> Hooray. >> Thank you. First off, not track. Got it. Okay. Uhhuh. Uhhuh. >> Um, so my court reported spring sports yesterday. Um, successful first day. As long as
113it doesn't rain in spring, we're in great shape. But, uh, once that starts happening, it's going to be interesting with buses. Officials across the state are in trouble. Talking to Kip earlier today and, uh, on Friday, the boys cross officials. So, we could have a game on Friday. It's going to other team can't play Saturday. We can't get a bus on Thursday and then maybe play up front just to get a game. It is going to be a challenge for those things, but it's nothing really just um a couple things to my report. First of all, again, it's been a great start to the spring. Some updates on right around graduation, how crazy it's going to be. And just so you are aware that May 19th may be playing the day after graduation, just the
114way the calendar falls. The one other thing I wanted to alert you to is today I had a second meeting at the NHIA with the transportation committee. So about a month ago went in front of the football committee committee approved our co-op with Bishop Brady today with classification committee and they approved our co-op with Bishop Brady. So the only step left is to go to the NHI council which is in about 40 weeks I think it is is that meeting um I hate to say it's a rubber stamp but I'm a member of the council and when things go through committees especially two different committees it's pretty much a done deal. So if it looks like football is It's going to be a go. Um, you may have read in the paper there's been some
115issues with more field cony field up next field there for games on Saturdays. So that will be our our home field location. And in other fantastic news, I just found out the other day they had hired a head football coach. They did not have one after all. I thought they did have one and he was not going to continue on. And Evan Jacobson was a graduate, a former intern of mine. He's been an assistant in the basketball team. He will be the new heads of football coach for Bishop Rayson, which I think is a lost hire on many levels. Great guy, great kid, and I think it's really going to help our program and our numbers and interest grow. >> So, that's kind of the update right questions. >> Can I call out two things
116from your report just in case people don't necessarily look at the bowler? one, there's a date for the bathroom replacement. >> Um, did I say May 10th? >> You said second week or so of May. >> So, May 10th, we have to have the sheds cleaned out because they start demolition after that. So, yes, they're doing it this summer. I think it's in conjunction with the high school. Yeah, I believe we've done some of that, but the plan is they're going to start going. >> It's amazing. I didn't really put the pieces together until this past weekend when I was like, man, >> yeah, we really should have a bathroom >> there. It's tough stuff. So, that's great. That's really great. Um, the other thing I want to call out is that Skate Murdo has
117chosen to um retire. Um, something that I think is noteworthy is that if when you look at our high school and all the banners that are up there, we are, as some t-shirts say, a ton of champions. And really that string of championships starts effectively when skate reinvented. So it's remarkable and we spent a ton of time and we win a ton of championships and athletics is not everything but it's nice. >> I have had the pleasure of coaching with skate >> and had a child who was coached by state multiple times and multiple iterations as well as by the teacher um and really can't thank him enough for his contributions. just such a wonderful guy, but such a great coach as well. Just the I I think the legacy he's left with our athletes
118is amazing. >> So there's so many kids we're like, "Yeah, skate was my coach, right?" I mean, like how many >> do you ever have played basketball? >> Yeah, exactly. >> In addition, over the years, he's won the Award, which we've given the athletic department. for kind of an unsung hero. He's done that. It was about two or three years ago. He won a statewide award down >> it was for somebody who who just grassroots community you know huge backbone of the sports program and he has been so instrumental with everything I should say. >> He will be missed but sometimes for all of us. >> Yep. Also the last thing I would say is that not having to make a single cut this spring I know it takes a lot. We have a lot
119a very high participation level with our athletes and being able to figure out how to fit them all in there takes effort from both you and the schools and the coaches and so thank you because I know it means a lot. >> It's really nice when you don't have kids >> even when you have to coach the school softball >> super hard for coach. >> Okay. I was excited to see your name back there. >> So that's exciting. >> Okay. Thank. Anything else for Dan? >> All right. >> Sorry. Thanks, Dan. >> All right, Jim, come on up. As a note, Jim is going to do his director report at the next meeting, but he is going to do an energy presentation tonight, uh, which has been previewed by the energy management committee. Not the
120company, the committee. Yeah. not thank you all for letting me do a presentation twice tonight. Um I will say though um I just want to give props to the student I got I forgot her name that from Maple Street that gave that awesome uh soap box about custodians. Like that's I know >> that's huge. So that could be the biggest update I can recess for my career at the Soviet. >> It was amazing. >> Thank you. >> Yeah. >> Oh, yeah. All right. Um, I've also realized during my time putting this energy update together that I'm not the best at presenting numbers. I can talk projects, but I'm not that great. So, if I get off track or go crazy, throw something at me, Laura, hit me or something like that. But, I'll try to
121breeze through this pretty quick. And, um, I think um, the reason why like I do an energy update every year, but this one was a little bit different. And it's been on my mind for a long time because the performance contract comes up so much at public meeting at these these type of venues and it's like you know did we really get what we paid for or it was a bus or it was a waste of time and you know that was weighing on me too of you know really factf finding what that what was done and and what was originally intended. So throughout this this presentation, I I copied and pasted exact documentation and language from that from that contract. So I I just in hopes to give a little more clarity. And again,
122I'm going to go through this kind of quickly, but I think I'm actually probably going to post this on the facilities page so people can reference. So um I'll just get into it. We can kind of go from there. So, um, the district began tracking energy use in 2021 and I the district didn't do a good job tracking energy use from the performance contract to 2020. I want to say that there's a gap there. So, um, how I pulled a lot of this data was from the performance contract language. So they they pulled out they did an average of our energy consumption and costs between for 20 2014 2015 and 2016. This was seammens that did that that took the time to to do that assessment and they they put an average which I'll show
123you of that number. So that is going to be the highlight. That's going to be our baseline. That's going to be where all the other information kind of goes from. So again I know there was some changes in my position here. maybe bills weren't put in correctly. Um, the thing called COVID happened, so energy use was all crazy anyway. So, I just want to say it's like if you're looking for exact usage from that time, I don't I haven't had the time to go back and and particularly do that. So, so how we collect data now is through the Energy Star portfolio manager program. Actually, Jody uh right next to me does a lot of that data entry form. So, we connect quite often like you know, did you get this bill in? You know,
124I'm I'm trying to, you know, get some baselines here. And, uh, she's been a dear and awesome at doing that. So, uh, that's the program that we use and that that program is what other schools use all across the country. So, there's thousands of school districts. So, and then there's this rating system which calls this is the energy star score and that is our rating against the majority of other schools of our same square footage of our same demographic and in our same operating things like oil, gas, and everything else. So, that spits out a score. So, a little bit about the score you'll see in other slides is 50 is is the medium performance. Like, yeah, we're just chugging along. Anything higher is is is uh really good, but low is is poor. It's
125it's a poor performing school. So, um we'll go from there. So, this is what they they came up. Um and I know these numbers are going to be like, well, I don't really know what they mean. Later on, I'm going to graph them for you so you can see those numbers up against firms. So again, this is exact language from that performance contract about what the average uh utility use was in consumption for electric and fuel oil and a little bit of propane over at Harold Martin at that time when they did they did this and they did this a year before executing on that contract and doing all those projects. Uh this was their energy table. So, um, again, I know a lot of information, so I'll hit it quick. Uh, you know, back
126then the average was 16 cents a kilowatt hour. You know, now we're at 26. So, you know, jumping 63% over that that um 9-year period, like just that's that's where energyy's gone for electric. Um oil, interestingly enough, it's it's lower um lower now than before, but was it lower, you know, five years ago? You know, I I didn't pull that data, but um you know, the es and flows of of the economy and fuel as it is, uh propane, um you know, up on that, um which makes sense. uh pellets were weighing but the way that um Seammens at the time they did the performance contract they um put an annual estimator of 3%. So that's how they based their um their their focus what they on the on their graphs for what they felt
127the energy savings was or what they predicted for us at that over the course of time. So I'll I'll show that. So, but but on the the right hand side, that's um the percentage increases over the past nine years. Um so, this is again a graphical. I'm going to go through school um really quick. So, high school maple or Carol Martin or those are reversed. So, back um in the baseline when they when they started tracking, we were at 35% well below uh and this was before the performance contract was the baseline score. uh 35% for 35 was was pretty low. Um but um since then we we've gained a much better score. So I would say anything above 75 is stellar and we're on the right track. Um again I don't know specifically how
128the calculations are used but I'm trusting in our government and energy star people that they're giving right information. Enough said. Um so uh this is uh I know again a lot of information here. So first column is our baseline. That was the exact number that I pulled from uh the performance contract. Um and that's uh that 16 cents a kilowatt hour. 469,000 kilowatts were used on an average basis, average yearly basis at the high school. and we were spending 769 in in um in costs at that point. Uh fast forward this year to the 25 26 year again our our costs are are up you know 60% but our use is way down. We're we're we're operating you know almost 150,000 kilowatts under of of what we were back in the baseline here. So even
129though we're saving, our use is low, since our rate is high, we're spending more. Um, but it's $9,000 more over the course of of nine years. Um, oil, different story. You could see that like um since the baseline year, we're we're using a a lot less oil um than before, and that's what's translating into savings. So um you know uh again through the the those projects you know boiler and the um envelope and stuff like that we are we are we are using this for sure and a lot of that is like runtime like building management systems uh that was upgraded around that time and uh just watching that really has significant impact on on lower lower usage. Um, I added propane here. This is because we're only we just did the um the hot
130water tanks and switched to propane for that appliance. So, that's new. So, it's not a a true um yeah, just because we reduce that amount of oil, we still burn the BTUs of some of that in propane to heat our pump water, if that makes sense. So again, I know we can really geek out on that stuff, but for sake of time, and this is I'm sure you guys are kind of getting the gist. So this is kind of the highlight page for school that I really want to do. If the performance contract didn't happen and we were we were using the same amount of electricity at a higher rate, you know, we'd be up $50,000 a year over what we were at that time of um if we didn't do anything at all if
131those energy upgrades weren't done. So that's pretty significant. Um I would say so um again oil being um uh even a little bit lower at this point we would have had some savings o over that year. So that translates as you could say and I'll and I'll roll all this up on the later slide so you can see the the very uh true number of all the schools. Um but this slide is pretty interesting and and I'm again I'm not going to spend a lot of time here but these were the exact projects that were done on uh according to the performance contract. So all the black was what the district said yes we want to do. All the red blanked out stuff is all the stuff that was evaluated and up for consideration but
132that wasn't done. Uh the very ended number ending number. So Seaman's predicted $26,000 a year in energy savings for that. If I back up one slide, uh we're really beating that number at 42 right now. So did those projects did they say that they were going to do did they accomplish that task and numbers? Yes, I would say. And we've seen that that drop in in kilowatt hours or runtime. As you can see, the big player, the biggest expense that the district uh wanted to really do was the interior light. Going from regular lamps to LEDs really produces the bulk of our our kilowatt hour. So, um if you want to go home and change all your lighting to LED right now, like do it. It's it's it's a no-brainer and it's going to get
133you the most bang for your buck. So, um again, I'll move on to the next rule. Carol Martin uh the baseline score obviously was not 99 because it was an energy hawk. I don't know how that data was put in but that number is wrong but I can't get any other data from energy started started to change that. All I can say right now uh we're at 94. I I just the numbers don't lie in that. I don't know how they pulled out a 99 from you know 2019. uh Harold Martins a little bit differently because midway through the baseline year and now there was a 8,000 square foot addition put up. So um I found it a little bit difficult to wrap my head around like how do I really quantify uh like what
134would be the true energy savings. So I had to break out that calculation on square foot kilowatt hour per square foot. I hope that makes sense. Um but uh overall we had a reduction in kilowatt hours. I think Martin did really good even after the addition was put on. Uh we still continue to see a decline in in our use there. Um so but again thankfully for the district in 21 when they built that addition at Herald Martin uh they used the LED lighting, they did the insulation and they did the things during that build which really didn't show uh much of an increase. Anyway, even with that extra square footage, we're still running low. Uh you may be thinking, hey, what the heck h is happening at Harold Martin for oil? Why are we
135only getting 1,000 gallons a year? Is because uh the only the only appliance that we're actually running now on oil over there is our hot water heater for our older section. We do have a oil backup boiler, but I refuse to run it because um it's it's way more cost effective. So, but if that ever goes down at some time, uh we will switch over um for repair or something like that, but it's not by intention. So, again, I know this is a lot of information, but um have different slides, but it trust me. Um so, here here's the uh the breakdown. at the time. Um, if we didn't do it, you know, we'd be looking at um $17,000 more in in um in energy costs at Herald Martin if we didn't do the lighting
136and the other stuff over there, too. Um, again, here was the breakdown of of projects. So, um, lighting being the most significant one, um, and a couple other mechanical things, but they spent time on building envelope and and gym lighting, which was which yielded some which was their yearly savings goal of $14,000. If I back up one slide, we're at 17 where that proved to be to meet that goal of the guaranteed or anticipated energy savings. >> Jim, I'm sorry. Is building envelope insulation? Yes, it's insulation. It's like the infrared scans and and all that stuff. That's all the uh spray foam you see around this room that was done during that time. >> Good question. Thank you. Um and then Maple Street started off at a 67 energy score. We're up to 94. Um
137a lot of that has to do with pellets. >> Um so this is where we're at. We uh we're running about 43,000 kilowatts under which which is pretty significant. Um our oil um We we've been weaning oursel off of oil for quite a bit. Um I I've know you heard me say several times over the years like I want to run that pallet boiler as much as possible. Um so that's why our oil even though we had an oil backup boiler, I only ran it when it was absolutely necessary. Um but interesting that our price per ton of of pellets um went up significantly. Um then and now we're running about $14,000 more. Uh but this is the interesting one. Uh uh performance contract. This was the tele boiler was done at that time. Um
138during this project they anticipated 149 in in savings. Uh and we're actually a little bit under them. Under that so >> by 67. Yes. >> Cents. Uh >> yes. >> 963 uh 952. So >> 11 bucks. Uh if in from then to now uh that's what we're if they didn't meet that that's what it was. Some other pro again they look at like Maple Street's like the co the total projects was almost a million dollars at Maple Street have the performance contract. Um but yet only yearly savings was almost 15,000. So, um, the performance contract was never meant to pay for itself. It never was going to have an ROI. >> So, people thinking that we got hoodwinkedked or whatever else, it that was never the case. Um, you'll see on here too, like a
139big thing, a big thing was uh doing exterior door replacement. That had zero energy savings at all. Not to say that it needed to be done. I didn't know the condition at that time. it wasn't going to yield energy savings, but in order to do it, you had to do it through a funding mechanism of this nature for that to get to get to that to get done. So, here's the roll up. Um, so about $75,000 were we're saving uh per year if we did it um since we did the performance contract payment. Um what I couldn't quantify is how much we did operational savings. Like we haven't bought light bulbs in nine years. We haven't spent the labor to replace light bulbs and ballasts and repairs and other things of that nature. Um, I
140know that's big. I could look up probably what Seaman said because they probably, you know, could have been about 10 grand a year and stuff like that, but um, it's nice not to it yielded energy savings that I I can't quantify. Um, so hope that makes sense. Um, I thought this was really helpful. I think this is my last slide. If if it's not, I'm I'm going to make it. Um, so just a little bit about like when you look at different fuel types, you got to make a calculation on BTU because people are like, well, if you oil has a high BTU rate, but if you go with gas, it's lower, so you have to burn more, but it's at a higher efficiency. I could geek out a ton on this, but really when
141you break it down, that last column on the right, the cost per million BTU, and those are our prices, that's what um propane, oil, and pellets burn at. And the our our systems, that's how efficient our our systems are. So, um, I thought it was pretty interesting and a key takeaway is like it was much better to run our systems on propane this year than it was any other thing, even over pellet. Um, if that makes if that makes any sense. So, um, again, since the performance contract, I mean, that's that's quite a bit difference in cost per ton of of pellets. Um so even though you know again great idea at the time let's vote pellets they're cheap um very cheap for for BTU um the cost is just making it not not um
142feasible I guess right now. So you know I I I when I really seen this I shut the pellet boiler down. I'm like let's run out of propane. It's just going to be cheaper for the rest of the season to do that. So, so you balance like energy, you balance fiscal um opportunities and all this is kind of monitored um through the season. So, um I I hope this somewhat makes sense even though it's a ton of information. Oh, this is my last slide. It's just a little bit how we how we do procurement with our staff. Um Laura and I spend a lot of time on on energy on electricity uh for instance. So, we can only negotiate the supply. Um, which is almost like just 40% of our bill really. Um, unfortunately, that's
143all that we have control over. But the utility, you know, can whatever they they choose to um charge on demand. I should be flippant because it's it's pretty they have a system which nobody knows. Um, but as far as our oil, propane, and pellets, uh, we do that on a yearly basis. We reach out to those vendors. we almost do a bid process by ask different suppliers uh and that we lock into a um an agreement with them. Uh but the good thing about it is we partner with the town of Hopington. So even though we say we're going to buy 65 tons of wood pellets, um we're we're adding 40 for the um the DPW shed. We're adding 25 for the uh uh the fire station. And we've got that bulk number. and then
144we go to a supplier and said, "You're servicing these three facilities in town. You're getting work. We want a better rate." So, that's how we're been working with the the town on that. That's a yearly thing that we connect with. And um sorry guys, I went 20 minutes, but I'm I'm done. Ask me any question you want or pick me up. >> Thank you. Questions for Jim? Yeah. >> I guess I I would just say first of all, thank you to you and Laura for all the work to put this together. There's a lot of data crunching going on here. Um, you know what really the one thing that really pops out to me is you look at the in the graphs you can really see the volatility of oil and so these prices are
145based on 2025 negotiated prices we're looking at like current >> Yeah. And um certainly it is reasonable to assume that those prices are going to be far higher this coming summer into fall when we negotiate. Um, and you know, I guess the overarching thing that it makes me think about is when we talk about, you know, the savings in having more efficient light bulbs, having a better envelope, like basically using less energy to try to immunize ourselves from that volatility, >> right? >> Um, you know, this I think this really kind of connects those dots in an important way that we need to be thinking about. >> Absolutely. Thank you. >> But I really appreciate the work. >> It was a lot. >> I believe that. I don't want to >> I think in some
146of your units you have kilowatts and it might maybe should be kilowatt hours, but you should just go through and check unless we're like a beast across all of our buildings and giving Eversource like constant panic attack. >> We might want to update. >> It's really KW. >> Yes. Yes. >> Totally. >> Yes. >> My bad. >> Okay, that's okay. I just want to clarify because otherwise we'll be like, "Wow." >> Yeah. Yeah. We're >> we should have a nuclear facility. We should have that would be great. >> We're just Okay. >> online when I do the changes. >> Yeah. >> Okay. I think just the one one other thing I wanted to highlight which we talked about a lot in the energy management committee is two things. One, the total save. Just highlighting that
147we're saving about $75,000 uh annually uh is huge. and two, for people to be able to really look at what the performance contract got us. Um, I think that the performance contract was kind of poked in mystery and this gives people an opportunity to see all of the things that we paid for and this is what we are currently paying off. >> And it's a financing. >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> So, thank you. >> Yeah. >> Thank you for the data input and thank you for the crunching of the numbers. Um, and I think it's amazing how much money we are saving and I know again that a lot of that is due to excellent negotiation on public energy procurement and also on controls. Thank you. >> All right. All right. Directors, get out of
148here. >> Thank you guys. Thanks for being here. >> Please go home and have some dinner. Also, it's lightning. So, which is pretty exciting. Dan's super excited about the rain on the fields. >> speaking of kilowatts, that's right. It's frizzle. Whoopy jazz. >> Make a break for it. That's how I know about electricity. I read that book once a year. Okay, guys. It is 7:17. Let's do this. Are we ready? Thank you, directors. Thank you, Jim. All right. Next up, we are on to the Hess nominations final read. This folder is this file is in your non-public folder. As a reminder, we can talk about process. If you have a specific question about anything that could pertain to reputation uh or any specific lines, we do need to go into non-public, which is absolutely a-ok.
149Okay. Um, but do does anyone feel like we have a need for nonpublic? Okay. Yes. Just as a reminder, these are uh the linebackers of our school. Uh, they do a lot of work helping to think about um special education, behavioral work, uh, intervention. Um, it could be for a classroom, it could be one-on-one. So, we are very grateful for our HEST nominees and our food service. >> And our food service. Yes. Thank you so much, support staff. Okay. Do I have a motion to accept the Hest nominations as presented? >> So moved. >> Second. >> Any discussion? >> All right. Party. >> I was going to apologize. I was in the spreadsheet. I don't know who which one of you owns it, but I sorted and I apologize. I think I undid my changes.
150>> Okay. She's like, don't sort my spreadsheet. >> I won't do that again. >> It's a very tight lift. It's all right. >> It's okay. It's amazing. slash or tires spreadsheets. >> Um, all those in favor >> I think I'm a big fan of sorting. All right, next up we have our first read for our team's nomination. These are our custodians which we heard a lovely speech from tonight. Again, same rules. If you have a question about any of the individuals, we do need to go into nonpublic for reputation. Otherwise, we will have one more read of this uh next week. It'll be a fast turn. Um, if you have any questions, please feel free to direct them to Amy and I. But do we have any questions right now that are non-public requirement? Terrific.
151All right. Thanks, team. Next up, we have the 2026 2027 general asurances, requirements, and definitions for participation in federal programs. This is an annual uh review that's coming to you. And this requ this is what is required for us to apply for any of our title gr grant funds anything through ESSA IDEIDA um although it is comes to annually it's it's a very important part of our process um this is also part of the consolidated application which will soon be posted on our website for public comment >> okay any questions about that do we need to approve that individually so do I have approval for the draft draft HSD 2026 2027 general asurances. >> Yeah. >> Yes. >> First and second. Terrific. Any discussion? >> All right. Thank you. The second document is something that
152the CIA committee has been working on over the course of the school year and this is going to be our guiding document as we continue to work and develop on our our curriculum. Uh so it is a clear overview of the national, state and local standards or competencies that we would use uh to guide our instruction. It is advised that this document comes to the board periodically at least within 5 years uh for con consistent review. You probably will see other updates more updates at the local level than at the state and national level. Can >> I just add a quick comment? So there's a crazy amount of information that's in here. So thank you to everyone. But like for example, if you did want to go through and click on like what are we
153learning in K through2 social studies? >> I think of this as like an open curriculum where you can go and be like what are we learning about XYZ? It's really great. >> The hyperlinks in it very easy to follow. >> Yeah, it's marvelous. >> Um any questions about that? >> Thank you to the CIA committee um and for your diligent shephering of the process. >> We need to approve that, right? Yes. >> All right. Do I have a motion to approve the Hopkins School District academic standards as presented? >> Okay. Any discussion? >> Got it, Suzanne. I've been there. >> I'm never sure when to speak, so I just >> That's right. It's okay. I never move anything. Okay. Any discussion? >> All right. Amazing work. Um, and the last document. >> Wait, can we
154vote on >> Oh, you didn't vote on this? Sorry. >> No. All those in favor? >> I. Any opposed? Terrific. Last document. And then the last document is our PD master plan. So this was submitted back in November and we finally got our letter uh that it has been approved and in the your packet is both the document itself which is a very comprehensive approach to how we will uh provide professional learning um at all of our for our teachers, administrators, pair professionals. Um if you have a license, this is how you will get reertified. Um it was done by it was a group effort. we had a team that met um and now that it's approved, this is good through 2031. And so even though we will have periodic updates from the PD committee,
155um this was a a big thing to get off of our plate. So it comes tonight for your final approval. >> It's an easy 30-page read on Sunday. >> Yeah. That's great. >> You'll be better off for him. >> That's terrific. Um, do I have a motion to present the 8th Hopkins School District PE professional development master plan 2025 to 2031 as presented? So moved. >> Second. >> Okay. Any discussion? Again, this is a wild amount of work. Thank you for your attention here. Thank you to all the members of the committee. Um, thank you to everyone who has been thoughtful about this and provided feedback and also to those singular who have written it. Thank you. Okay. Uh, all those in favor? >> I. Any opposed? All right, guys. Board committee assignments, which I
156did not fully tie out with everyone, but um I think the two biggest things is we had PD and I have to pull up my files, and wellness, right? Um we also can do we have a PD and a wellness meeting coming up soon. >> There's a wellness meeting on May 12th, >> right? >> Okay. We can see I think Suzanne you had been on both of those and I think you are theoretically slated with um either uh Andrea or I as a backup. >> Yep. >> Um do you want to stay nominally primary or do you want to just go schedule by schedule and we can see who can make it? >> I don't mind being primary. >> Okay, great. And then >> yes, listening and observing and and all of the professionals in
157the committee had learned, I actually learned a lot. >> Yeah. >> I was like, we know we had to do that. >> Okay, great. >> I know more about food service and the rules than I ever wanted to. >> There's so many or a lot of food service. >> Okay. And those ones are quarterly. So, I guess um Laura and um Amy, if you guys just let the let Suzanne know as soon as possible because then if she can't make it because of curricular stuff or anything else, then we would just want to make sure we shorter sort our schedules. >> Yeah, we will have to work on that because wellness policy usually over at the same time. So, I think last time did both. She went to wellness and then came >> up. But
158I think what like my schedule will change next year, >> right? And presumably people's availability would also change next year. So, I think every I think you guys sent out a doodle hole about how do we set the time. So, >> yeah. >> As long as I have notice, I can usually make it. I just need to book it a couple weeks in advance. >> Cool. Okay. >> You don't know what you're doing on October 10th, 2026. >> I know. Right there. >> I know. It's hard. I have I have no idea. >> Um, cool. And then the only other one which um it would be hes which Jonathan and Suzanne um >> I think I think um I think uh as I consider budget committee again. I think it might be better to have
159somebody else jump on that. >> Okay. I would be thrilled to uh for I think negotiating consistency um uh in terms of of Hess I am also I would say committee light um I do think budget committee is a non-trivial docket um I would be very happy to um but if um Jonathan you and I could touch base about it but I think I mean I would be thrilled >> well that's that's what I'm that's what I'm thinking >> okay great terrific good >> with that you good with that oh yeah >> all right team. Okay, with that I think we are >> done. I have a document I will share with everyone just to make sure that after a couple rounds of doing this we feel good about it and then Jody I got
160you. We're going to be good. It's going to be terrific. Okay. Um last but not least before we get to policy, we do try to have three newsletters a year. It is April, which means we'll be sending this one out in May, unless spectacularly we're able to pull together a draft in the next seven days. I'm just going to go ahead and say I can't. Um, so the things that I was hoping to think about for a draft is like a first of all, is there any topics that people >> We need a community member on wellness. >> Woohoo. >> I'm like, we had one. >> We would love someone from the community wellness. Can I ping you about a a quick little blurb or Okay, great. So, I'm going to call it Suzanne's Wellness.
161>> I I think that with Laura's permission, I can come up with a blurb or if she sends me like make sure it says this, I will make sure it says that. >> That's great. Amazing. >> Um I know we are we could have a couple new members of the team that we could like specifically a new a new person with the announcement of Carrie Sony departing. So, that could be stencled in uh which would be good. Um, I was thinking that we could do a finance update or how could a middle high school entrance update of where we are we with the project, how are we thinking about rendering, selections, etc. Good. >> Um, I think it's important with the end of the year to do important dates just to try to get them
162in front of parents one more time, which is everything from Harold through to the middle high school, which includes graduation, um, kindergarten screenings, step up days, all the jazz. Uh, which is kind of wild to think about. Um, and then the only other thing that I would love feedback on is we could include a content thing, whether it be about reading or math or science or presentation skills, but something that's like a glimpse into um some actual academics um which we don't need to talk about necessarily, but if everyone wants to think about it, I think it would be nice to think about what would be a nice thing to highlight as people move towards end of year thinking. >> Yeah. I might also put out there that the school year for next year kicks
163off. I mean, the calendar's out. >> Oh, yeah. >> And it starts late. Like it's >> 26. >> Oh, it starts early. It's a whole week earlier than than normal for us. >> Than historically. >> It's really early. They come forever >> before Memorial Day. >> Yeah. >> A whole week. >> Before Labor Day. Yeah. >> Labor Day. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Cool. All right. So, we'll talk about it next week and then we'll go from there. >> Great. >> Policy. >> So glad you asked. Uh, okay. So, you will see in policy tonight, we've got three different buckets. I'm only going to go through the first reads. So, for reaffirmation, uh, the these are policies that need to be reaffirmed um either on an annual or bianual basis. There are no changes to these
164policies. two, you will note say will be digitized. Um it's because if you click on the policy right now, you'll just see kind of a PDF of it and that is going to be um just turned into our template. Um but none of the words are going to change. So, we are just looking to reaffirm policies AD philosophy of the school district, EI, risk management, FBB, enrollment projections, and JLCJ concussions and head injuries. >> Do I have a motion to reaffirm? We can do them all at the end. Yeah, we'll do them all together. >> Um, >> no, you don't. >> What? >> I know. No, we're trying. >> Um, then for our first Oh, actually, no, we can do it because I have no final read. I think we have final. >> Like, no,
165we have final. Go for it. >> You are wonderful. Do I have a motion to reaffirm policies AD, EI, FBB, JL, CJ as presented? >> So moved. >> Second. >> Okay. Any discussion? >> No. >> I'm just impressed. >> All those in favor? >> I I >> Okay, keep going. Sorry. >> Thank you. No, I appreciate it. I'm I've been traveling all day, so I appreciate it. Okay, so for our first reads, um most of these are policies that we already had. So in order to help us see what changed, I highlighted what changed. So for policy JLDB, suicide prevention and response, the thing that changed is we needed to add the number, the n the telephone number for the National Alliance for Eating Disorders. It is on the last paragraph. That is the change
166for that policy. Four policy EBCA crisis prevention and emergency response plans. We needed to add a parenthetical that emergencies related to hazardous chemical use should be addressed in the chemical hygiene plan created under policy EBC which is a policy that we created earlier this year. >> So we have added that to this policy. >> Yes. and we have a plan >> um in policy eh public access to school district records. You will see that there were some chunks in here that were um changed. So essentially the change with this is that uh the recommendation is for the board to adopt a procedural policy EH-R which I'm going to get to next which is totally new. Um and basically have the procedural policy really lay out how folks uh request records from the school district um
167including you know the provisions clearly indicating you know who processes requests for the district records methods for logging and tracking yada yada yada that information had been within this policy. It's now been pulled out and pulled into EH-R, which I'm on to next, which is public access to school district records procedures for public access to district records, right to no requests. Um, so you can read through this whole thing. This is all new. Um, and it basically lists out what we already do. So essentially, if staff get a a right to know request, we funnel it into the SAU. Um, Jod gets those requests, she starts processing them. We know the number of days that we have, we know the process. Um, and this sort of just lays it all out there for policy JIC,
168student conduct. Um, it lists out the conduct, the code of conduct policy, what it should shall include. And then it also um includes now a section of parental notification of simple assaults. Um and it has a call out section that online publications of the code of code of conduct shall be ADA compliant and um if someone needs it, building principles shall shall ensure that verbal recitation of the applicable code of conduct is available as needed. And then finally in policy JLCJA, emergency plan for sports related injuries and additional protocols for athletics participation. Um you'll see that numbers 6, 7, and 9 were added which were specific to um the placement and training relative to automated external defri defibrillators, AEDs. Woo. Um, and that uh all school sponsored sports activities for any grades 6 through 12
169in which a student is participating be supervised by a person trained in CPR. >> So hopefully that made it a little bit easier for you to see when we've changed a policy what has changed. Uh tried something new. >> Big fan. >> It made it made it more exciting. I can see it on your faces. So anyhow, so those will move to a second read next at the next board meeting and then we have our second read JLCF wellness and JG assignment of students to classes and grade level. I encourage you guys to look through those second reads. They are going to be coming to a final read at our next uh meeting especially wellness. Um did we make any changes to that one at our last policy meeting? This is the only one I
170didn't highlight. It is a it is eight pages long. So, there's a lot to look at. >> We we we walked through a couple of things about the designate, the superintendent or the designate. Um Laura oversees some, Tracy oversees some. We made a decision about a link that was not quite the smart snacks, >> right? Was in it's in limbo a little bit. So, but you're right, it was just small tweaks. >> Great. >> Perfect. And that's it for policy. Thank you. Same to me. Um, I'm just reading the wellness one. Uh, for celebrations and rewards, do we what? I don't know what a smart snack nutrition standard is. Does that backs out and like I don't send anything with my children. It's not inscalable, but um I know other parents do, but what So
171what does that mean? >> Um, smart snack compliance is under review by the current uh legislation, but it means essentially that any snacks are 100 calories or less, primarily made with um whole grains. That is the number one item is it's a whole grain food. >> Okay. >> And the the snack itself in a single serving is 100 calories or less. >> Okay. >> So meaning like a you know those those funsized bags of Doritos don't qualify both from the nutrition the ingredients and the calorie count. >> Okay. All right. That's a change. Okay. Y Okay. All right. I'll think about it. Thank you. Okay. Yes. >> Great. Anything else in policy? >> No. >> All right. Thank you. >> Anything else? >> That's a lot. Thank you guys. >> All right. On to the
172consent agenda. Okay. For our personnel report tonight, we mentioned it earlier, but um Skate Murdo is resigning from his field liner position. That's what he's currently doing for us. So that's what's on our list tonight is he is resigning effective uh April 24th. But the good news is that for the rest of this year we have found that Rob Belty who was a best baseball coach for us is going to take the field liner position for the spring and then we will open it up um for the 26 27th school year. >> Thanks. This is remember this is an hourly position that we have. It's on schedule B. Any questions on the new hire personnel sheet? Okay, for donations tonight, we have three. Um the first you see every year OSAM for $2,000 for our
173robotics program. Uh second is Hopkin and PTA for $915. They are supporting a uh Maple Street fourth grade field trip. >> Amazing. And the third is the GermanAmerican Partnership Program. It is actually a grant for the June and July 2026 German and Austria trip for $2,250. In your schoolboard folder is the is the grant program. So you can actually see what it is. They pay a certain amount for students and teachers to go. >> Awesome. And this will be um put directly into our student activity fund at HMHS to fund that help fund that program, help offset some of the costs for that trip. >> Great. >> Is there is there a specific fourth grade trip or is it to be determined? >> It um I will find out which one it is. It didn't
174come with the PTA paperwork, >> but I will certainly find out later. >> It will be for a specific job. It is definitely >> I just didn't know if it was earmarked or not. >> Yes. Yeah, >> it's fine. >> When they have to get back to me, I'll find out about it. >> Yeah. Whenever they apply for the PTA funding, they have to put in a specific trip. I forget what it is. >> Where where do they go up to New London? >> The historical society. >> That's where they usually go this time of year. That's what it is. >> I will find out. >> Okay. Lovely. And no financials, right? That'll be next week. >> Correct. >> Great. Cool. Okay. >> Anything else on your end? >> Nothing else on >> No, I
175just wanted as you get ready to do your newsletter, um there is a kindergarten screening um scheduled for this week. So, it won't make your newsletter, but um I think Patrice and her team, it is held at the library on April 16th. So, there's been some communication um that's out about that. Should we continue to put the the uh uh the lunch applying for >> Yeah, probably >> like basically in every >> newsletter. Yeah. >> Yeah, that's a great idea. Yep. >> Y it's >> having a brain cramp. >> Okay, cool. Okay, >> fast. >> All right, cool. Do we have a >> um motion away from that. >> Um, accept the consent agenda as presented. >> Some move. >> Second. >> All right. Any discussion? >> None. >> All right. All of us in
176favor? >> I opposed. All right. Committee updates. Policy. >> I Oh, yeah. I'm like, I just did. >> You did, but is there anything else that's shaken? I think you guys are good, right? >> We have nothing else. >> Great. Never ending CIA. We did a bunch of CIA stuff. Anything else happening there? >> No, we meet again on Thursday. we'll have our last review and we'll choose a new diagnostic tool. So, a lot of what Mandy is talking about, we're going to target math and reading that gap that she's talking about. So, >> that's great. >> Really exciting. >> That is really exciting. >> We also had when they were talking about Lucy's talking about the SATs, we were actually um monitored from the state. They came with one of those sessions and we
177did pretty well. >> You dropped the auditing drop. >> Yeah. did a really great job. She developed a handbook and turned it over. They asked if they could take it with them. >> Did the French students do it every year? >> SATs. >> Yeah. >> It just happened that they got back the week before they were supposed to take it. >> Oh, not actual French students. The French exchange American middle high school students got it. I was like, why are Franco file French students taking >> no? >> They moved any of the French exchange participants that would have on Tuesday. >> No, that's great. I literally thought that it was French students. >> I was like, I don't know why they would take that for um >> and we're working on the visible curriculing that
178is unveiled. >> Also, I think it's great the teachers put motivational notes. >> That was really >> It's marvelous. It's amazing. Uh CIP, we just did the world's biggest CIP project approval. Anything happening there? >> Yeah, I mean >> we meet next >> I was just looking. >> Yeah, >> is it next week? >> Next week, I think. >> I feel like we do meet on Thursday, I think. >> Yeah, that's right. >> Wednesday or Thursday. >> For whatever reason, my calendars aren't in sync. Yeah, that's right. We meet on Thursday. Beyond that, >> nothing else. >> Okay, cool. you do better. >> Safety and security um has not met. Um we will we have a couple more meetings for the middle high school security redesign project. They're sending us a bunch of stuff this
179week which the committee is meeting about on Friday and then we'll be discussing with um the GC um >> no the architects and yeah Scott next Friday. So we'll have a pretty good update there. Um, a couple noteworthy things if Laura is okay with it are we thought through we're thinking through visibility and accessibility making sure we're thinking about like where we need to put in um electrical pieces to make sure for all the screens that we now have as part of homeland security monitoring that that's visible there. We have planned for what we call Ballard City which was like a nice little chess game of cement groundings. Um, but we think we can do away with that from a security perspective by putting a railing because it goes up some steps. And what you're
180really trying to do is have an impediment for cars trying to drive through the entrance. And so we worked through a couple of things there, but the group will have a couple more pieces. >> Okay. EMC, >> we re-reviewed the energy um presentation. >> Yep. And we'll meet again. >> Next week, maybe. I forget. Yep. Finance budget. You guys are meeting next week. >> No, we're meeting on finance is meeting on Thursday at 1. >> That's exciting. That's great. >> Okay, cool. Wellness >> May 12th. >> Yep. >> All right. PD, >> we will have to have a meeting in May now that it's approved. Just to get organized, just to organize ourselves. Yeah. >> Okay. All right. Great, guys. Um, we are now at the second non-public comment portion of the evening. If you'd
181like to come >> Oh my god. Yes. Thank you. I'm so sorry. We are now at the second public comment portion of the evening. If you'd like to come up, we ask that you state your name, address, and keep your comments at three minutes. >> Okay, great. Any other business? >> No. >> All right. We do have a need for a non-public uh under RSA 91- A3, 2 open parentheses C, close parentheses for reputation. After we go into non-public, uh we will not have any other business in public after the meeting. So, we'll be wrapping the meeting there. It is a roll call vote, but before we get there, do I wait? No. Do I have a motion to go into nonpublic? >> Great. Thank you, Jonathan. >> Yes. Sorry, >> Jonathan. >> Yes. >>
182Jonathan D. Jonathan C. >> Yes. >> Andrea. >> Yes. Yes. Oh my god. And with that, you guys, let's do