001All right. Hello. Hello everybody. Hello. All right. So, we will show kind of the work we did as a collective group of types in an actual like awesome format. Um, and so what we're going to do today is kind of add to this and build out and then kind of start assigning things to do over the summer just for definition purposes, which is option one, option two, and option three. So those were on those concept mockups. Yeah, I didn't look at that to study which was which. Yeah, I probably should have printed those out, but um can I can you can you print those out? You'll need to send it to me or you can get it on the folder. Do you want me to send you the link again? Sure. If you'd like to
002then I can also think one of the ones was option one I think is the we can probably tell it's the the com the one the existing current no that's current option one is current I know that somebody asked for current one now if I had to like break it down I'd say option one is bare bones it allows for a one-way loop but not too much too many changes the first one you drew last that's what you'll put it I'll put it on the board Yeah. So, we have this the second one is a little bit more than that because it's still leveraging a one-way loop but a double wide driveway and it's moving the crosswalk in the front steps and that's pretty much that was the second one. It doesn't change the current
003not just the cross. So, none of these are the current pattern. No, none of them fire um driveway more towards the middle of the road and then those steps would move from where they are now probably further to the middle of the hill wherever is easiest to get over. And then the third option we have new and then number three and then number three like I think the similarity between one and two is it's a oneway traffic flow. Number three is two-way traffic flow and moving the steps and the um the crosswalk. I think I think three is the two way is the two-lane road coming up. Two way. Okay. No, not two-way. Two lane. Um so no, option three had two-way traffic. Option two then the access option three was the existing pattern. Mix
004that up. Yeah, the first concept has the the tree where the lot is has the entrance. The first Yeah, first one has the entrance over here goes all the way around the building and then out the teacher and visitor parking stays where it is. Um there is a walkway here. Uh there's no paving in the dirt lot. It's just level. Um the second concept does not change the portrait too much. It just moves the driveway on this side over. It widens it. It doesn't widen it. moves it over and lights. Okay. So, yes, the walkway there, but that also removes the crosswalk. Yes. So, we're adding a crosswalk. Okay. So, that's not the double wide. No, I think the double wide is option three. The double wide is the option three. So, so it's not
005two-way, it's a double wide. Two lane. Two lane, not two way. Yeah. Sorry. Yeah. I think the concept was so you could stage people going in in two lanes and maybe two buses in one lane and cars in then it's still having the entrance over lot two lanes going up potentially a small parking area in the back still grass here level walkway um teacher parking will be where it is it will be nothing in the front just a walkway Okay. The crosswalk is moved and uh teacher and visitor parking. You look very confused. Was the parking that would be along the driveway included in all? No. No. Most of them do do have some parking along. Um but the third concept actually has a small parking lot back. Oh, okay. Mhm. So most of it
006is there is no painting this it is leveling it right. Um that can be a phase later. This is just leveling painting it walkway and then it's either a two lane or a one lane there. Okay. Um and if it's a two lane there's no parking. If it's one lane over there, then there will be some parking. Okay. And then parking would be in the back still as it is currently. So there will be some parking in the back as well. So So to me, option two was the least intrusive. Is that correct? Yes. Option option two was not putting in any kind of driveway from down by the tree. Correct. Option two was just widen the the driveway on this side of the school. Push out. Oh, pushing it out. Pushing it out and
007moving the cross right next to the the wall. Moving it out just on the side. Moving it out. And then this here would be a cross crossing to kids page crossing. And then it's just moving it out and creating maybe a little bit wider. But that is probably the least correct the least amount of change in the current pattern. Okay. Thank you, Susie. You're welcome. And the one one thing I noticed last time we were talking about the wall and the facilities um the company added a retaining wall, but one of the things I noticed is they have the parents coming in and doing a loop in the front and so therefore they needed to access more of the land over there which is probably why put a retaining wall in. So that would be
008a that would be a very costly regardless of consideration if that's something I think I have for the fire station and The other one is just moving it down. Well, and the wall isn't actually that long, so you could actually move it to where the any steps wouldn't interfere with the wall itself. That's right. Yeah. Could we have to look into that would be down three. Okay, cool. Thank you. Doublesided. Yeah. Okay. All right. So, I passed out the everybody worked on last time, which was for all of these concepts, there's going to be um effectively things that we're going to need to figure out, to explore. Uh and they Thank you for organizing that. They apply to different functions, right? Don't apply them, do apply them, don't apply to all of them. So, um,
009yes, for next time, I wonder if we could also have the the original line, the it's in the in the folder. Everything is in the folder. Yeah. All of the popups, all of our documentation, everything you've probably ever seen is in there. So, um, that one is seems like different overkill relative to what we've been discussing this time. So, yeah, but I do actually if you wanted to use it as a reference, it's not that big big one, but it's um I don't want to throw something. I'm good. So, um I'm assuming that everybody's kind of taken a peek at everything. Yeah. And I'd like to make sure that we talk through all the different types of options and we have kind of the pieces and parts um to be able to look into this
010community to figure out. But isn't isn't it Keith that has a lot of contacts? Yes. I can say Keith, you didn't show up, so you get all the you get all the jobs. That's what happens. I mean, Jane, we could go through the one, two, three, four sections and see if there are any missing pieces, right? Good idea. So, let's look at each of the sections. So, for I'm going to do a little bit backwards. I'm going to look at this and kind of talk about each one of these things and go through each of the options and make sure. So for the first option and if I have missed anything so far about you're going to be like my anchor for this because I think you have the brain for the concepts. Um if
011I missed anything or if there's something that needs to be addressed or added to, this is the time for that. Okay. So for option one, um I'm just going to go through it from entrance to exit and we'll go through there. So from the entrance, we're going to add signage for a oneway entrance into the school. It is going to two lanes um that are clearly marked. We need signage for that. No, wait. Sorry. One way. Sorry. One lane. One lane. One lane. One lane. Thank you. Yeah. And I didn't define the width. I am curious though because I liked Keith's idea of doing it double wide, but I think those are decisions we might that might come down to cost. Um, so it is just that car bus entrance is one way of all
012traffic. So cars, buses were in the same lane on um parking on the side all the way like where would the parking start? That's up for discussion. Where do you want the parking to start or not? I think that's one of the items to investigate is what are the requirements for parking? Where could we try to draw it in? And then I don't know if that's something that there's a professional that would guide us. Okay, that's a good call. I would say that for all the plans, we want to fit every spot we can, but I don't know what the rules are for parking. Okay. So, that is going to probably have to be assuming determined on how much more pavement we're going to have and run off and all sort of things. So, we
013can ask those questions, too. Yeah. And it might even require walking the lot because we could do like dirt parking if there's no trees. We might just walk around. Absolutely. That's good. eight. This one option real quick is because when it was got the drop off, it's option one doesn't list cost to install stairs and cost to install an ad a ramp and that's because they're not going to it was going to use the existing one which is I thought we said that those were not adequate. Um, they are compant and we're gonna we have it on our to-do to contact an 88 person to help us tease that out. That was a I've got the person. I just haven't picked up the phone yet. I think that will be helpful. So, what did you
014say? I think that will be really helpful to get that like official word word. Yes. Okay. So, um I'm hoping you as well I'm going to see It doesn't matter how we get different answers. That's I just I was wondering how how extensively the parking would be more than one. It might be good to ask more than one. Okay, we can look into that. All right. So, as we're turning the corner at the end of the property and going around, um again, we'll have questions on parking. Um we have questions on the location of the sheds. I'm assuming those will be moved. Um we are not paving the dirt lot. We're just leveling it. So that's the cost that we're going to need to make sure that it's in our um spreadsheet. Okay. That this
015one looks like it doesn't assume the sheds are moving because it's not a requirement. I think the shares are moving this summer. Correct. They're moving somewhere. Okay. All right. So they're moving. We're just moving them because there are there had been uh concerns raised about how tight that corner is and it's understandable. The one shed that protrudes the most were shifting over. I don't think it was a requirement for the first we'll probably have to move the sheds from all this. That wasn't part of the discussion. Those will end up getting some type of movement. Whether it's just going to be moving them around or we'll find a location. I I was assuming if we can make it, we would just work around it. Like again, because the first option is bare bones, like very
016little touched. Yeah. But that's good to know that one's moving. It'll help. So, um, as we turn the corner that is right next to the NYA property, um, there will be some parking. Maybe we need to investigate parking for long a property. What is currently there? What we would like to add? Can we add? Those are every question marks. So, that's that's kind of um an unknown, but questions to figure out. And then as we head towards the entrance to the NYA property and where we current turn into right here is that would be a walkway. Everything else is going to be leveled and not just a nice dirt or grass or something like that. But there will be a walkway towards the front of the building. So you have your ability for kids to
017get back and forth safely. And then this will be a walkway in front. Uh drop off potentially will be at the back of the building. Then you take the turn towards um again teacher and visitor parking is not going to change. That entrance that parking will be in and out. um from one way. So everybody's still one way. The other question is is do we want it to be two-way just to get into that lock or not? I want to throw it out to the group. So in the teacher I think not for this option. All right. Well, no. I mean, if you're trying to get rid of the and most of the teachers will be coming before the cars start lining up, right? All right. And then the only other thing is um we'll
018have signage um and then the walker walkers across this passage. The the crosswalk is going to be moved just to the other side of the driveway. Um the current staircase up to the school will stay the same and we would like to investigate having a cross because every single one of these plans is a sort and then some of the other things that were identified in there were um painting lines. Anything else? What am I missing? You'd have to maintain um an entrance from the back corner near the sheds into the playground area and the fields that Yep. that is kind of understood that that whole burio would be part of you know widened area. Um, do you want to talk about that that that little sort of NAA um? So, if you go out
019there now, if we were to do a field trip, you would see the um going out to the playground on your left and the snack shack and the fields, the whole section that has wood chips in it. One of the proposals that I am requesting is that that's paved so that during the day when the kids are out there because our kindergarten, first and second graders only play on the playground because it's fenced in. I would like a cement top or a heart top for them to also be able to chalk, jump rope, and the basketball court that's farther off of the snack shack, they don't utilize that because that would take more coverage for the K through2. So, if that's paved, then that allows us to have that. And something that um the wellness
020committee and a NYA have teamed up to do is we are going to make a path around the perimeter of the field. If you remember, Newfield school property stops at the gate and that becomes NYA town property. And so that's why we're in collaboration with them. But there would be a four to six foot um gravel and or tar um walkway that's a quarter mile around the perimeter of the um fields. But that's not part of this project. It's not part of it. But that would it's in it's in this little thing though. I labeled it as cost to create additional paved surface for dumpsters and bikes. Right. So the extension onto NYA property. Yes. We would make sure that that has access and is let's call it maintained by the school currently and we
021have you had that conversation. So thea is and so I would we need an X in that we need there's an X option one option one should have an X in cost to resurface also because I think we want the whole thing has to be resurfaced in addition. Yes. So cost to resurface paved surfaces should be all three options. Okay. And then this create a place for the dumpster should certainly be one and two and I guess three, right? I think all of them will end up having that. Yeah. So okay, a couple X's. Yep. Okay. Um the other items I want to add is can we itemize under signage and road marking a separate line item for the cost of the crosswalk light? Is that where you want to put it? Okay. I just
022want to So it's a separate item and that would be on all three. I'm just adding it to the spreadsheet for us. Right. We missed that. Good call. And then don't go anywhere. It's at the bottom. How do you want me to word this? Yeah. Crosswalk for all three markings section. Yep. I got you. Yeah. Add cost of crosswalk lights. And then it mentions under signage painting surfaces. And then below it mentions paint lines on surfaces. I just saw that as the same thing. The paving and the lines. The lines painting. Anything with painting. I think we like I just don't know why. Did I put It's under signage and road markings and then under widen existing paved spaces. Oh, well that's okay. That's a delete the one under widen. Let's do the signage and
023road markings. So everybody Yes. Okay. And for sign for the painting painting services is going to be in all three. Yeah. signs and installations on three crosswalk values on three. So, so in the to-do section, I would add determine possibility of light for 87 is a to-do for all three options. The light, you mean the crosswalk lighting? Crosswalk lighting. So, it so we have we need costs, but we need to figure out if we can even do it. So the to-dos at the bottom are like takeaways before we so determine possibility of light for 87 cross wall. It's not possible cuz we don't we have to get the state to pay for it. There is something to that and this came up when we met before at the original inception of all of this around
024the it's a state rule, right? Department of transportation versus town of Newfields versus the state. I think, you know, I think a lot of these to-dos are going to come from getting from Keith's contacts, who he said would help with get some additional numbers for us. I think they'll they'll be implied in that work. Yeah. And under the to-do, also determine requirements for parking. Determine requirements for parking. Yep. It's hard to hear because I turned that to low, but it's still hard. So if we could speak loudly also for the the folks that one of those cans with the strength that we can use. Can you what do we mean by requirements for parking the need the number of spaces how many actual spaces we need because of the occupancy of the school. Okay. I
025didn't know if you meant like the offset from the road or just Oh no no no sorry I think parking spaces. So I think you need to we need to estimate how many do we want and then what are like how many inches wide and long they need. So that is that in the requirements I would imagine. Yeah that's imply the number of parking spaces currently and then that was adequate like our minimum our minimum case was what we have now. So what I did was I think that should actually be checked. I think there's I think that there's about how many people work in a building and how many parking spaces are supposed to be a term that's there we go. We also have to account for visitors that come in. It's not like
026we're an office where it's you know a set number all the time. I mean you can do investigate for both of those. investigate the possibility investig. Yeah. And the setbacks from other roads probably like where can you actually have your first parking space because you don't want to be too close to the road and the fire. All right. Well, we can that's okay though. I'll I'll All right. So, is that everything for one? Is that everything for one? Do you want to go through the second walk through the second concept? I I would say for the first concept, you know, currently you have people parking by the police drop off bin around the corner, not just along the fence, you know, right? So, I would, you know, if that's possible, we want to not lose
027those spaces. Absolutely. I want to piggy back on that. I think the town should make a decision that parking spaces are more valuable than do we want those bins there, right? Those things. Sorry. Okay. So, say that again. So, there are two bins on the side. One for clothing and one for Oh, I see. They don't belong. And donation bins. Yes. I think the team or someone should make a decision on whether or not that's valued. that space with the return on the investment for the community of wanting two donation bins is worth two to three by the dumpster. Is that is that on the school property? It is. So, it seems to me from a safety perspective that you could argue that they should not be here because that attracts other people to come
028on. Do you want to put that in the to-do list? I think that could be our recommendation. Yeah. So, I put it into I put it into kind of like and investigate categories. So, do we move them? Do we need them? The ROI on them and then I think those are maintained. Doesn't somebody come pick up the stuff and take it away? They do. It's not. It's like Goodwill, right? I mean, it's not good, but it's hard to contact the people to come. Yeah. Empty. Go take go to drive your stuff. They are used. They are used. Well, right. But they don't have to be here to be used. I think it doesn't make any sense given that we're talking about concerns. 10 minutes to Wonderland, right? So, we'll have to figure out like who's
029going to investigate that piece of it. The ROI of it. Should they be moved? Should we Well, so just add it to a thing, right? I'm just adding Okay, good. Um, did you have anything else, J? Not with that. Okay. First point, per se. Okay. So, two, everybody move on to number two. Yes. So, just conscious of time. Maybe we just look at the differences. Yes. 1%. Between two and three or between two and three. One and two. Right. We're going to start. You're just going to do two. I see what you mean. Why don't we do three first cuz it's most like one. Okay. Um, you want to do three? Yeah. Everybody read. Okay. Three. Sure. All right. So, three. All right. Three is going to be the biggest changes between three and one
030is that there will be an ent. The entrance is the same. There's going to be two lanes. You don't have your oneway sign listed there. Oh, it's still one way. Still one way. We need the oneway sign. Yep. Okay. One way line, oneway sign, two lanes. One lane is buses, one lane is cars. There's going to be signage for that. Um, no parking along that side. I'm assuming no parking along the two lane. I think that's a little bit. That's that's what he had said. Yeah, no parking during school hours or something like that. Well, no parking at all because there's going to be a small parking lot in the back. Mhm. That's kind of another change. A small parking lot in the back. Um the walkways are the same. Crosswalk moves to the front
031of the building. And then teacher and visitor parking. I heard that as a two-way, but I want to confirm that with you. That may have just been my mistake. I think that's a goof. Okay, that's my that's my mistake. No, I'm just a misunderstanding. I should say goof. So, it was everybody one way definitely said one way. Okay, so that was my mistake in putting the walk up. So that is the biggest difference between these two parking, right? So we need to add another item and then the cross like moving. So adding I would like to add cost to add parking lot in lower level. I don't know what else to call it under add oneway road for option three. I know that we're being thoughtful about time and I appreciate that. The practicality of
032the need for our school to have a lane just for buses and a lane for cars is really insubstantial. I thought that when we were going to a double lane, I mean, first of all, we just have two buses and our flow was very easy if you see it. And so in fact having two lanes could cause a safety issue versus deleting more safety concerns. So I I didn't put it together till now that because I thought when we were talking about two lanes, one lane was going to be cars and that other lane was parking spots. I thought that's too that is to me a better use of space if you're going to do well he did say having this thing with two buses and cars and they can merge and okay so we
033we change that this is our time to like my my thought my understanding originally was that one lane was going to be for buses and parks cuz that's all we need but that that second sign was similar to what we have here and you make parking spots all along the south. So, would we still need the little parking lot back there? There's a decision on like how many spaces I think we Yeah, it feels premature, right? I think if we parkize this, but thinking like would we compartmentalize this and say, let's look into two lanes as an option, a parking lot. This is our degrees, right? So, what's going to be the benefit of the parking lot versus the cost that it's going to be at the project? And it's not it's not a big
034one. We don't have many spots that is determine like what our need for. Well, there probably isn't a big difference between making a two-lane road and making a lane a one lane road with a lane for parking from a cost standpoint. Good point. And we're guessing. Yes. I'm wondering are there trees? Are there stumps? Is it level? So, I think that this is when we investigate it, we should see how wide can we go and what the cost differential is. And we also need to define where we're going down to one lane because the assumption was we go down to one lane behind the school and around the other right but it doesn't say that specifically so that the other question is the parking if we're looking at the third concept the small parking unless
035that's specifically for teachers to come in the back door that's an odd place for visitors or for that's actually pushing it away from the front office which is a little concerning. Someone can park back there and they're watching kids all back to school safety, right? So you want to take the parking lot out for teachers. Okay. So we can Okay, that's Are we taking Are we in agreement to take it out or are we going to Well, I I think it'd be helpful to know what the cost would be. put a parking lot that can accommodate x number of So let's add another item under widen existing pave space that would say oh no sorry under add oneway road that would be add a parking lot yeah I did that okay so I also added
036to your point was um cost trees the trees there's that part of the cost of the paving I I think it's probably going to be a part of it, but I just want to clear what so added in added in that section. Yeah. Okay. I don't know if you have to clear the trees. You have to walk it with something to see how wide you could go with that. Yeah. Well, I'm just thinking about saying how far away you need to be from the the edge of the property because of the neighbors next door putting an awful lot of money into that. Yes. right now are probably going to be very strict. Well, you have an easement, right? Yeah. I'm just thinking about winter and having a single lane to me when you're paving. We
037have had massive amounts of snow on some of the years I've been here. And if you're going to try to not have a second lane there and you're paving or you know plowing, I don't think one lane wide is practical at all. But you can do like one and a half. Like that's where the people would come in and say what's what's appropriate given the fact that we have snow. Right. But I think your point is well taken that if we only have a lane and a half during the winter, all those half parking spaces are now So the wider the better regardless of how many lanes parking it would have to be two too wide. And I was assuming that they would plow to the edge of the pavement. That's that was my assumption.
038But then I guess it's how they design it and we have to think about and hopefully someone building it will have that perspective and smaller and smaller the more along here too. There's not much room to push that stuff. Okay. So we'll have to I put it as kind of like lane lane and a half two lanes. What is the plowing and parking considerations? Is that is that sound about right? Yes. And also the property setback requirement. Yes, that's that's right. That's the same for every that's going to be part of I think what whoever is going to design this. Yeah, we have to do. But let's put it in there. It's just a reminder to to us and to them that we have. Okay. So, are we ready to go to two or not?
039It's hard to facilitate sometimes and take the notes. Is it practical to put the crosswalk with stairs and ramp basically kind of under where the sign is right now with that hill and you've got the stone wall. She's talking about number three. I'm still looking at three where you've got crossing light and new stairs and ramp. That was Keith's idea to do it because that is the it would be somewhere the steepest part. Well, that's not the exact location. It's somewhere in front somewhere between the two driveways. Yeah. Somewhere in front whether it's going to be closer to the entrance, closer to the exit, closer to the front. That might be what you're asking is where would it be? Where is this ideal spot for? And he said wherever he could find the best spot.
040I mean I think he even said that considering the wall the pitch I guess since we're quoting that or or getting a cost is are we differentiating between a stairway and a ramp? You know they're two different things. Or if we're moving it to anything other than the current location. So not just putting it across this the you know 10 ft over then we do need a otherwise there's no way for crossers to get to the wheelchair. So we do have to then make sure that we stay immediate if we just move the crosswalk over 10 ft and people should use the stairs. We still have our towel option people going around. So the the diagram I guess could say and ramp. Yeah. Yeah, it does say and stairs and ramp. Yeah. So stairs would
041not for our current situation, a ramp for our students is safer. For instance, when kids right now who are biking to school, they don't bike down that stair. They have to take their bike and go to the side of the stair. So, could we could we leave out the stairs and just say crossing light and ramp? Yes. Yeah. I'm just saying if we keep the I think there's one concept where the stairs stay. I'm saying that's a that's a down. Well, the first concept is the stairs stay where they are. Just move over. Just move over the crosswalk. So, that one's like I mean I think that's partly a cost consideration, right? The ramp would be expensive. What we're going to end up doing is the concept that we might decide on might be an
042amalgamation. That's right. I'm just trying to put the daily use of the school, the children's use of the school grounds at the forefront of this project. I think that's super important. I think that's really what we need um in current state and state. I think at some point before we give a proposal to the school board, we should have one concept. Yeah. I think we're gonna have to weigh these pros and cons when we get the dollars. have to definitely go during the next schoolboard meeting which is next week a retreat. Yeah, next week. I'll kind of give them an idea of where we're at and our ideas and what we're going to be doing but letting them know to exactly your point. This is not what we're losing out. This is where this is
043our progress. I'm a little bit concerned about doing only one suggestion because I think these two suggestions have significant difference in cost and the board's going to need to weigh that in coming up with a solution to get it funded. So I would say that's a good point. However, we can also give them what our recommendation is and why with the cost estimates for anything that wants to be added on or taken away because to be honest, it's the board's decision what the eventual project looks like. Yeah. is this they are incredibly respectful to listen but it might be like well you know it's going to cost you know 30 grand more to do x y and z let's just do that or stage so I think if we give them this is what we
044recommend right however this is the supporting documentation that we would we would make sure that the board has available to them to evidence decision. Um I I think my feeling is that given where what happened that the appetite of town may not be there for any kind of a bond issue in the next few years and so would we want to propose something that would bridge? Let's do this. I don't I'm just No, I I think that's an valid point. Um I think we need more discussion on it. Okay. I think we need a lot more discussion on that and figure out what's happening with legislation, what's happening with a lot of other things by the time we get to I just want to leave it open for for having more than one. I think
045that's incredibly might be a question that is asked of the board like one proposal. Yeah, that's a good for the purpose of the retreat. Yeah, you can ask them. Yeah, absolutely. Okay. I'm going to go through the second concept just keep us going. I was just going to say that I think regardless of like we can have one recommendation. I agree with that point and I think we still give them all the information. So then then it's we're tackling both of those concerns. Okay. Number two. Um okay. So all of these create a one lane road from 87 two lane road. So we're missing some X's there. Yeah. So the second concept is probably the most is the least invasive. So what we're essentially doing is we're not changing the pattern much at all except
046for two major things. One is pushing the cross. Making a crosswalk here. Pushing out the driveway towards the lot. Making the lot. So, three things. Making a crosswalk, pushing the driveway out that way a little bit more, making it a little bit larger to accommodate some additional parking. Moving the crosswalk. And everything else in the pattern stays exactly where it is. The driving pattern currently. driving pattern does not change. The other thing that we had talked about last time was putting a gate to make sure that people who are coming in over on the dirt lot in the morning, which you've repeatedly asked them not to drop their kids off over there to and you know potentially put a gate over there and make sure that that is forcibly managed. So I don't see that
047you have a gate on here. So we need to add a line. Well, I'm just thinking because like just even this week, I've seen a lot of maintenance and repair kind of vehicles that come in to do service for the school. So, that would maybe make that more of an issue if we had a gate that was prohibiting entrance for there's also the people next door that are using it every day right now to their vehicles down there. But they'll be done, I think. just they could very easily ask, hey, can you open up? It's not going to be difficult. Honestly, if that is not used when there's snow there, it's not accessible, right? Um, currently, and it still wouldn't be. It would be leveled, but I can't imagine that. Why do we need to
048level it if we're just pulling over? We don't need to level the whole thing. park. I think that No, that's a good question. Um, that's also a debate for me to do anything to it or leave it. Um, I think that my personal opinion making sure that the parking lot is safe for kids and drivers who are not homes. Um, walking people park here in the spring. We park here right now. As soon as there's not snow on the ground, they're school property. But but if we're going to go with the bare minimum, why I think that should be addon. It shouldn't be something. We can we can absolutely do that as our should we not do anything to it or we do it in a later time. So then you need another line. I
049think it's not even in here. Well, yeah. I was just going to say that that really goes for all the proposals. You know, again, it's a line item. What's the cost to level it? I guess if it's just dirt, what's the cost to have some kind of aggregate or or something on like stone or some permeable service? Probably beyond that, you know, that's just about the question whether you do it or not. I don't know. It's curious and are you filling in the craters or are you getting to a high standard of leveling? Right. I think leveling is up a big must of what that actually means, right? Can mean different things to different people. Yeah, I think that's a good point. So I went too hard to do this cost to level fill and
050different standards to your point and ask those questions you know from don't do anything to make it you know because that's that's easily 10 or $20,000 for the size of that lawn. It could be. Yeah. Could you possibly do our front yard 20? It's it's easily 20 10 to 20,000. I mean, I think we had a smaller area in our front yard that needed to be, you know, filled, taken care of, and releveled and everything. And it was eight or $9,000 just for a tiny little space. Wow. I think Derek had offered to turn this into a a lot and it was going to be $60,000. That was three years ago, maybe. That actually is another thing that we need to look into is the cost of rework or domain workers. I don't think he
051was offering he no it was going to be $16,000 compared to 1.8 8 million. That was his comment. That might be another thing to look into different parts of different strategies projects looking at not just orders of magnitude but staging. Do we leave it as it is and then two years from now we um I I am not at all opposed to making that an easier place to park because it does become like a rudded, muddy, mucky mess um in particularly. Um but could we look and see what would be the most effective? If we wanted to do a portion of it, what would be the most effective part that if because if we did the back part, um, then you're not encouraging people to park up there where they're picking kids up, but still
052you could utilize a better level surface. Um, so that's just something to say rather than doing the whole thing. One of my concerns about concept 2 is that if you look right in front of the school where all of the drop off and pickup and buses and where the current bike racks are and where people still come into the lot and park. This is this is the hottest spot of the entire property. Yep. And if an accident's going to happen, most likely it's going to be in that spot. So, I think the more we can alleviate that, the better. I mean, I think if if we thought people would approve it, one or three would be preferable. If and and so, but to do two is probably potentially could be done from a current budget
053as opposed to a bond issue. Potentially. Yeah. And I'm not sure you need a 60% majority for a bond issue, right? And you only need 50% to pass the school budget. So, I mean, it's something to definitely think about as we kind of move down the process as to and that's the board to decide, right? Is like what are the costs for each one of these in aggregate in piece part doing it all at once? Yeah. you know, we'll have to absolutely kind of take each one of them and figure out what's the what's the benefit for it? What are we going to lose if we're going to lose anything and make sure we all have that and we're confident enough to be able to really make sure that not only it's going to be
054good for the students and the staff um but pass. So, I think that's a excellent conversation and I'm going to hate to say this because we're running out of time. I want to table it to make sure that we get to Yeah. No. Um, anything else on these? And then I think we only have five minutes. So I want to make sure that we get to kind of who's doing anything on option two. I think we need a line item to remove all the shrubbery and trees. Okay. That's a cost. Sorry. Go ahead. I think we have an item for removing trees. So maybe we can just put it next. It's easier. Okay. I I don't know in the other two plants if it specifically are removing trees, but I feel like it cost them
055to be active. We have to. Yes. Yeah. So I think that we should regardless um I don't think there's any kind of two things we have left is back further. It's not right there. Um well we have like a free and then our next meeting. So I'll investigate the donation relocate. So that sounds there's a couple of different I kind of want um Keith to weigh in on this. I think we're kind of at a stop gap until we get some of his resources. Would you all mind if I kind of reached out and individually said, you know, you guys work together or would you mind picking up X, Y, and Z over the summer? And that and you know, Emily, some of the things that I think would be right up your alley would
056be um the was it ADA? No, I'll I'll work with I'll I'll work with you on that. I have those contacts. Um step back. I'm sorry. Step back. Step back. Step back for paving the step back. Okay. Can you do Can you do that? Is that okay? Yeah. Um I don't know if there is a requirement for setback. Can you do the easements for signs an installation of signs in each one of our options? I mean, isn't that going to come as part of the project estimates that we're getting? I think one thing that I when I was looking over this, something that I could do, um, is the investigate the need for parking more. I think perhaps our new our new facilities director coming in will have some experience with that, I would imagine.
057Thank you. I couldn't find it. Yep. Yep. I feel like there's a a conversation with town about the signs and the blinking light. I mean, I could I feel like I could start with Sue. I think the police is one of the police respons if you talk to Sue, she would tell you where to say. Great. Thank you. She's got lots. She's a great Yeah. Yeah, who's gonna talk soon? Well, I'll start about the cross I mean the crosswalk stuff, right? I think that's great. I think after that I'm gonna talk to Keith. We'll start out. Yeah, I'm out September. you guys for a little bit. Um, I'm working all the time, but it's okay. So, what we need to do next is perating. I'm sorry. So, I think a key item would be the
058the driveways and then moving the stairs and the crosswalk and figuring out the wall versus the ramp and all of that. Yeah, Jamie said she would check with Keith about the rest of the stuff and then come back to us if there's anything that we can do to support. Keith's gonna really start looking at this and we might keep everybody. So, are we looking? That's fine. I'll have I'll have some at the Arctic Ocean. and I'm sure I'll have signal yes um you know ultimately whatever sort of concept we we come up with after we get assess the expenses and what we think is a reasonable amount we sort of make a recommendation I mean ultimately I assume the board is going to have to solicit a more formal plan and pay money for that
059to some or not like like we had drawn up for the previous one. So, and if that's the case and there's not money in the budget for this this year, is that really what we're looking at as a goal ultimately for the budget, you know, in the winter? Yeah. So, good question. Um, I have two thoughts on that. One was Keith was thinking that we may not need to. Okay. However, um, if we do need to, that is something that we'll have to go to the board for. And I think that's a September. Okay. I don't think that there is some money in the trust funds, but not much. And I'd rather not drain that if we don't need to. Talking about the township trust fund. No, the trust fund. Um but that'll be something
060that we can recommend like as an interim thing to the board like this would be a good next step. But um in the conversations that I've had with Keith, he doesn't actually think that we need to or that we can get some of this stuff because of relationships. Okay, great. So, I would say let's see what we can get first and then see where we're at in September, which I think is an incredibly valid point because if we do need money to get stuff, that's probably what you what's going to be. So from a board perspective, if something's going to happen soon, I I know we have this timeline, but they need time to do the same kind of investigating. So are we thinking that in September we'll present something to them? No, I think
061October would be an idea. And is October enough time for them to get stuff together? It would be a pretty quick turn. I don't think it's impossible, but I think I mean, unless it's option one or two. If you heard Keith say it, he'd say absolutely no problem. Have it done, right? He was pretty clear about that last time. He was he was pretty I don't I don't Well, I heard him say that, but I mean the key thing is that that the board doesn't have to expend any money that's already planned to make it possible, you know. Yep. 100%. Yeah. All right. So, do we want to look for time? I I think so. funding. I I don't have a good answer for you. My preference would be that we don't spend any more
062money, but I can't promise that. I don't want to lie to you. Do we want to get a jump start and meet the last week of August when kids are back and then that's in advance because the board always meets the first week of the month. Just putting out there as an option that that Yeah, cuz the teachers are back, right? It's technically right. School is back in session. So that would give us an again one more meeting, right? And one more month in advance to help the board to have more time too. 26. Yeah. For us to I think we're we're good when we're together. So I think it's good to share information. That's a good idea. So that Thursday again or Tuesday? Oh, no. Tuesdays don't work for some folks. I could probably
063do it that Tuesday though. The 26th. I won't have my Tuesday thing yet. the 26th. I will be back. But that's When are you going to be back? Oh, probably. I mean, the kids start school like about when you do the 20th and then we'll start driving east from California. So, so you better be checking the shared folder. I'll be see you know I'm not of course next week I'll be gone. So, that's fine. Just do it. No, no, no. Just keep me right. Right. We could do that Monday. Is Thursday better? You need some more? Let's look at Let's Let's keep the pressure on Thursday. Well, what I was thinking is that it would actually be easier to do the week ahead when the kids are in the You mean the 18? Yeah. I'm
064sorry. I'm in Vegas. I might be in full. Okay. So, keep the 26. Okay. That's a Tuesday. That's a Tuesday. 26. If something changes, right, we have time. Um, yes. So, I think that I'm going to think through who I know who might have experience here. We know Keith has a lot of contacts. Do we want to go further out into the community? Um, and I don't know, does that keep people engaged by saying who has a contact or Yeah. We might also be able to kind of see who does this or might be willing to donate some of the work. It might help with our decision making. Yeah. I don't know, you know, is there a neat way to just put that in a sentence on Facebook and and say, you know, email us
065if you if you want to whoever's in charge of the Facebook groups, you can approach them. Yeah. I just don't know if somebody would be good at crafting something because I don't want to open up a can of worms, but it would be interesting to who has experience and is in the fields and I think the the gentleman who was who led the whole overall introduction and got this this team together can't remember his name Bobby. Yeah, he's really good at that kind of stuff. So, can he do something that builds on what he had done before cuz he'll have all the He had like an update an update to the previous post. I don't know if you want it connected to the previous effort. I think we need to separate. No, I'm talk I'm
066not talking about the like round one. I'm talking about the beginning of round two. That's what that's what he posted about people that wanted to be on the beginning of round two. I don't mind posting it. I I just I need someone if you think it's a good idea and just how may I suggest can you walk up something even if it's just like a little egg you're looking for and then send it around. we can all kind of help craft it tighter and then I think that would be great. I think your part of your point too is that it would be helpful if all of us just continued like the conversations throughout the summer when we're in the community, right? And like it can't hurt to inquire with people and stay curious and
067build relationships wherever we can. Are we thinking we have any kind of like a public input session where we have mockups that people can come and I think so talk about what we're proposing. The public is invited to every one of these meetings, but we could like highlight that for one of the meetings like that. This the focus of this meeting is might have to be after August. We want to have something better to look at. Yes. But I have elsewhere. I have someplace else to be. Yeah. And Yeah. We're all set for now. Okay. I'm just asking. I want to make sure I'll burn fruits next time. All right. So, I'll put that on the agenda for August. It's almost time to bed, you know. Sorry, I turned off before, right? Good job, guys.
068Yes. We're a productive group. His insurance.