001They are security. Eastern. >> You guys definitely got some. >> I know why. >> Well, look at Dan. Dan's got Easter colors on, too. >> See? >> Hey, Scott. Can you hear us? Okay. >> Yes, I can. Can you hear me? >> Good. Oh, I can't hear you, though. >> I know. I'm not supposed to wear white after Labor Day. >> I don't care. >> Oh, you turned in your white shoes and white pants. >> White belt. >> Can you hear me now? You could just extend. Oh, no. >> How about now? >> Almost >> anything. >> Not quite. >> No, I can't hear you. >> It's not necessary. that dislocated shoulder. I can see why the Charis, but he went on to win a Super Bowl and be a football. cousin. This >> is
002him situated before we start the meeting. Sure. >> Looks like more than one individual might want here. >> I think it's just you, Dave. >> Okay. All right. See if Jason Bull can talk. See if it's No, just one person. Yeah, >> Jason. Uh Jason Bull, can you hear us or can you talk? I can hear you now loud and clear. >> N >> I heard you. >> Okay. >> Can you hear me? >> I can. Yes. >> Okay. So, it sounds >> that's [Music] meaning owl is. >> So, I don't know what else. >> So, they can hear each other talking online. Jason could hear us talking. I wonder if there's something going on with this. >> It might be the owl. [Music] Can they can he Oh, this is the microphone. So that
003doesn't on. I think >> No, I because I'm on and >> Yeah, if I turn my volume up, I can. >> Okay, so this is on. >> Can you hear me now? >> There's plus and minus sides on the side. Linda, is that is that volume control? I don't know. Scott, can you uh can you try talking? >> Yeah. Can you hear me now? You guys are coming in loud and clear. >> Can you hear I just I tested it's it's our local issue. I just tested the speaker. Is that >> I'll try again? >> Can you hear me now by chance? Anything? >> Okay. All right. >> We We We did the same thing 16 times and on the 17th one it took it. >> I've always said the 17th time is the charm.
004So All right, it is 6:04. Um, I call the special meeting of the board, the September 29th special board meeting to order. Please join the pledge of allegiance. To the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Linda Oberunner here. Sam, >> Carl Schwarzy >> here. >> Dan Boltner >> here. >> Craig Whartman >> here. >> Julian Appling >> here. >> Tammy Forner here. David Handyside >> here. >> Lorie Hoffman >> here. >> Thank you for that. That brings us to uh pretty much three items on our agenda surrounding the uh the survey discussion. So um do we turn that over to Scott or is that >> I can uh start off. >> All right, that's okay.
005So I will I will let Scott do quite a lot of the uh going through the survey itself. But just to sort of set the table for folks, this is you know has been a long and iterative process of trying to figure out exactly how uh this survey should look. Our goal at school perceptions and working with uh you and other similar communities to on surveys of this kind is always the same. it is to let your community clearly tell you what it is that they want and how much uh they are willing to invest in a plan that they would like. So every little sort of change, every like argument over wording that we have had internally and comments uh that we have incorporated from board members and from the district administration has been
006done with that goal in mind. I think we're all in alignment uh on that that we want community members to understand what they're being asked and we want them to be able to tell you as in as clearly as possible what they think about all of these things. So the draft that Scott is going to go through here, I see him on the screen now, is uh has incorporated all of the feedback that we've gotten from board members filtered through uh the district administration and where we have deviated from particular little word choices or whatever that's been done in in the interest of this kind of clarity that we're all seeking is basically what I want to say to that. So, Scott's going to take us through the uh survey draft and I'm here to
007answer questions uh that board members have. >> Scott, >> thank you very much uh for that introduction and thanks for having us again uh to go through what I think is a really good survey. I'm I'm really happy with where this has ended up um and so excited to to show you the final product. Not a ton has changed since we last talked. There's been some adjustments um to wording to phrasing, but the overall kind of strategy and organization of this is is really similar to what you saw last time. So, I'm not going to go quite as slowly as I did last time, but please feel free to to stop and ask questions or or uh open up for discussion as we go page by page. So, on this front page, we start with
008that message to families and community members. uh immediately state what we want from them, which is their input to help address two challenges. Lack of funding. So, we state that problem right up front very clearly. Uh help folks understand what the problem that they're going to be, uh reading more about is. And then the aging facilities, uh where we explain some of the background behind the facilities, big picture challenges there, um and again, something that they'll hear more about as they open the survey. And then we share with them that we're committed to listening to our community to make sure that our plans reflect the priorities of our taxpayers. And we ask them to take a few minutes to complete the survey. We explain that uh the feedback is all confidential because surveyor responses are
009collected by school perceptions uh not by you know you all aren't sorting through every survey and trying to figure out handwriting. Uh they all come to us. We enter the data uh and then the data comes collected to you all. We explain on that front page how folks can take the survey. They'll have the unique access code here to take it online or they can return it to a school office or mail it to us with the prepaid envelope. There will be a way for folks to get an additional survey if they need it if there's multiple adults in the household. Then we also have the Spanish version. We have the survey deadline of November 17th in big bold letters for folks who are motivated by such deadlines. And then this letter is signed by
010Jared as the superintendent and you all as board members. Any questions on that opening letter? >> Yes. >> Um the reason I wanted sincerely separate from the others is because you you stumble if it it looks like sincerely is connected. So I had sincerely >> closer to our to our Thank you. >> You like it like that? >> There we go. >> It's a little tight on space, but I think There we go. I got board member back on the front. Okay, we're good then. >> Thank you. >> Absolutely. >> We're looking at that as a space issue, but >> it worked. >> It works. >> And Scott, my name spelled wrong. >> Oh, wait. Scott, >> which which name? >> Vner has an E in it after the L. >> Oh, I'm very sorry
011about that. Thank you so much for saying something. >> N this is what most of our >> unless you're at the IRS looking at surveys. It's a lot of us on Zoom being like, "Nope, that word is misspelled." No, not that one. Not that one. >> It's B O E L. >> E L before the L like that. >> There we go. >> Your name, but sure it is right. >> You got my name, which is very impressive. >> Jul needs to be centered. Yeah, I was just noticing that that was off and was not really not sure why. Uh because there's no space and it says it's centered. So, uh oh, there's just a All right, let's see what happens. There we go. I don't know why it was like that, but now it's
012fixed and that's what matters. So on page two, this is where we start to get into the financial background. So we start with there are two types of referendums. Watertown area voters can approve. We explain what an operational referendum is with a little context uh that voters decline this type of referendum in April and what it would have done. Then we have a capital referendum and the district has not asked voters to support this type of referendum since 2012. We highlight the recent history of the district's uh property tax mill rate um showing the decline that's taken place over the past few years. And then we put some added context with comparisons to the rest of the Badger Conference there, showing that Watertown has the lowest rate and that rate is also below the state
013average for K12 school districts. Any questions on any of that financial background? Okay. So now we move from background to challenges. So the first challenge and this is the only spot where you'll see anything highlighted right now which is always what we highlight when we know we have to update something before it goes to print. We want to make sure that uh the enrollment for this year is totally all the tees are crossed and eyes are dotted. Um, and then we will redo the math to explain what that inflation number is by using this 3,573 more per student. We're leaving that highlighted for now. That's the only number that I anticipate changing uh once we have that final enrollment. Speaking of enrollment, we do explain that enrollment is declining but not evenly across all grades.
014Little context for the money there. At the same time, we're experiencing increasing costs for transportation, utilities, technology, employee compensation, and student services. Federal government reduced the amount of money we're projected to receive this year. And the 2018 voter approved operational referendum expired in 2023. Explain that these challenges are not unique to Watertown. Most districts in Wisconsin have pursued an operational referendum to help balance their budgets. We explained some of the work the district has put in to balance its budget using savings or the fund balance to cover the deficit. So we've reduced the budget on 2526 by 1.2 million and plan to reduce the budget by an additional $300,000 next year. Even with these reductions, the deficit's growing, not sustainable. So without an operational referendum, the district would need to make further budget reductions which
015would result in larger classes and fewer programs and services for our students. Then we ask that permission slip question where without numbers attached, we ask your community if they would support the district pursuing a smaller operational referendum than the one voters rejected in April. [Music] Any questions on that page? Go ahead. >> So, um the federal budget or the federal the federal funds uh were reduced because of um the COVID funds ending the er funds. Correct. >> No, not the only reason. >> What what what other federal funds? >> Title one was reduced. is on. >> Okay. It's I know we're going to get questions on that. So, could you shoot me like some details? >> Thank you. >> I think that would be that's a great point. That would be great information for like
016an FAQ document or anything like that that's communicated around the survey and the potential referendum is that additional context like that um where you dig in a little bit. Okay. So then we get into the funding options. So if the community supports us pursuing an operational referendum, the district developed three options for feedback. Each option below is for a lower amount than the one voters declined in April. And here we have option one where voters support a referendum providing $3 million. the district would do these four things and what that would cost for taxes for every $100,000 of property value per year. Same for option two and same for option three. And for each of those, we state the amount, what that would allow the district to do, and the tax impact. Then we ask
017which amount folks would support. And then we have an open-ended if they're undecided or would not support any referendum, what are the main reasons? And ask if there's any other information they need before making a decision. >> Any questions on that page? >> Go ahead. >> Um I I noticed that you you go option one, two, and three, and then with the check boxes, you start with option three and go down to two and go down to one. Is that intentional? Uh yeah, we do it with the check. We we want to start with the lowest option so people understand how it builds up, but then in the check boxes when they're thinking about what they would support, it's kind of natural to think of it highest to lowest. >> So if that makes sense.
018>> That's also why we have those call outs there, you know, so they know this is option three, this is option in case they want to go back up and review. >> Right. I got a question about that when I had somebody review it. That's why I asked you put a period after referendum in that box. >> What was that? >> I would not support any referendum. >> This teacher in me is kicking in. I need a period after the word referendum in the fourth check box >> since that's a full sentence. Sure. >> You mean an exclamation point? >> All right. Oh, go ahead. >> No, I just said I like the wording. It's fine. >> Yeah. >> So, then we move on to the facilities. Um, and we had uh some of the
019great folks working on your facility challenges help us with this page to make sure it was all um accurate and upto-date. So, the district worked with an outside firm to evaluate the condition of our buildings and grounds. The study identified the following issues. We put it into three categories. aging infrastructure, inadequate safety, security, and accessibility, and outdated classrooms and support spaces. Uh we did do some tightening up of these uh based on again working with um your district leadership and the consultant um to just make sure they were all accurate and and representative um tightened up a couple bullets down here to be clear about kind of space being lacking for flexible instruction. And then below the challenges, we explain that while the district budgets for some annual maintenance every year, addressing these challenges uh
020requires significant projects that are too expensive to pay for through the annual budget. Therefore, the district would need to ask for voter approval of a capital referendum to pay for them. >> Scott, can you >> go ahead? Can you highlight the discussion that we had around uh one of the board members said, "Hey, you know, uh you you said we're declining in enrollment, but the classrooms aren't um big enough or whatever." You want to kind of go through some of the discussion points that we had on that piece as we're getting to there? >> Sorry, could you repeat that? There was some static. >> I'm sorry. Uh yeah around the the the difference between declining enrollment right and then there was a discussion around small classrooms. >> Okay. >> Can you can you kind of
021highlight uh what we uh did with the wording so that we >> yeah we don't we don't want to give the impression like that we're declining enrollment. There's not enough space for that reason, right? Um but there are some space issues for how we're dealing with things and trying to get some more clarity around that. Um because I think it was Lori who brought that up. >> Yeah, we had had a separate bullet that also talked about the size of classrooms being too small. What we kind of did is combine them and to focus on the fact that the classrooms don't have the space for programmatic things. And that's, you know, regardless of how many students are in there, there's a need for space to do certain types of activities like small and large group
022instruction that are pretty common teaching methods today. Um, so we kind of tried to reward it to really focus on the programmatic challenges like that instruction, power, and storage for example, >> adequate power. Can you clarify that somehow? Is that power for equipment? Go ahead. >> I say it's it's um again not not necessarily Scott's wording. It came from our study. Uh when we're looking at uh space needs stuff, not not section one of that booklet, but section two. Um, we realize that with uh technology and all the other things that we're doing, there's not enough outlets sometimes even just to do charging bar technology or um other things that we may need. You know, if we're >> I'm just concerned that the public won't understand it. Could maybe clarify it saying number of outlets
023or how would you word that? >> Power sources. Power sources. I was going to say hogy would also work. >> What about uh this? So classrooms do not have enough outlets or storage. Just >> Yeah. >> I mean because everybody understands that. I mean like you know if if you have a home that was built in the 90s or or earlier, right? And you're like, "Boy, it would be great if we had a a charging station right here." Like everybody understands that when when they're dealing with those kinds of things. A lot of those classrooms were set up for just being able to plug a vacuum cleaner into the wall. >> You know, they weren't expecting >> everything else that's in there. >> Yeah. >> Or to put electrical outlets because outlets could be confusing.
024>> Sure. >> Certainly have >> electrical before outlets. There's room. >> Yeah, there's room. >> Yeah, that one doesn't put us to a new line, so I'm okay with it. That's right. Trying to be as brief as we can with this as much information as we can. Yeah. >> Okay. Good change. Thank you all. Um, >> so then we get to page six where we go into the future facility planning. So, here's where we explain that while the district could pay for necessary basic repairs at all eight buildings, seven schools, and the ESC, and continue to operate them, it would cost $ 109.3 million over the next 20 years, including $30.9 million within the next 5 years. However, projections show enrollment will continue to decline. This means we will have unused space in our buildings
025because it is not possible to selectively heat and maintain portions of the buildings. Money would be spent on areas that are either not used or are underutilized. Reducing the number of schools would make it easier to balance class sizes. It would also reduce the number of teachers that have to work in more than one school and make it more efficient for those that do as they would have fewer buildings to travel to. This will result in teachers spending more time with students and reduce travel expenses. Therefore, the district believes that now or in the future and capital be bold so that folks who are skimming know this is where they really got to start reading. The most responsible use of taxpayer dollars is to consolidate our schools into fewer buildings. This will require a capital
026referendum underlined for further emphasis within 18 to 24 months. We give them the background of what's ahead. Explain some of the reasons for the planning and then we open it up to them and to your community as you continue finalizing a plan to say as we continue to plan for our buildings, what comments, questions or suggestions do they have to share about the future configuration, footprint and functionality of district facilities? Any questions on that page? I just have a technical question about that particular question. >> Yeah. >> When you have open-ended questions like this on the survey, >> you know, how how do we gather capture that so that we can utilize it in a meaningful format? So, we often do when there's questions like this, we'll often do comment analysis, a comment analysis report
027um that looks through every single comment and we kind of put together the themes that emerge, right? So, there's no individual comments that are being highlighted, but we're identifying the big picture of what's coming through uh and what your community as a whole is saying qualitatively there. that for a survey like this is some of the most valuable information that we're going to get. Like it will be obviously useful to be like what level of funding might you support for an operational referendum? But as you communicate out the fact that the survey is coming, I mean, >> school perceptions is doing a very similar survey in Watsosa where I live. They don't let me work on that because I'm a parent in that district. But I have been telling my neighbors like when you receive
028that survey, fill it out and answer the open-ended questions. It's the most valuable data that we get. That's where you will see what perceptions are out there in the community about like what the needs are, not only what people want, but what they think they ought to be concerned about. And that will help you take that into account. and it'll help you as you sort of communicate to your constituents what this plan will address, what the reality of the situation is. When we when there was a survey in my community a couple of years ago, there was just some basic misunderstandings about how the finances o of open enrollment work and the district was able to hear that and be like here are the facts around this so that you can make an informed decision.
029So these are the places where I would push constituents to really like take the time to like write us something about >> that kind of stuff. And then yeah, go ahead. Yeah, I guess I guess my particular question is kind of geared towards well what if what if uh an individual comes with something pretty profound >> that we haven't really taken into consideration but yet they're an outlier because they're the only ones that uh mention that >> uh is is that lost? It's not lost. So like this the uh comment analysis report that Scott is talking about is obviously gonna >> pick up the major patterns. >> Sure. >> That's one kind of thing. >> You will also have access to each of the individual ones as well. When we do the comment analysis reports,
030our standard sort of procedures be like here are the like seven themes that are coming up most. Here's the number of comments they're mentioned in. Here's the percentages of those. here's everything that is like excluded from these and the number of times that that comes up as well. So like you'll have access to each of them individually and we'll try to make it easy for you to see >> easy for you to see like where the profundity might be without making you actually sift through all the thousands of comments that got >> you have to do. So yeah, we don't want anything to be lost and we want to make it easy for you to get a big picture as well. Thank you. >> Great question. Thank you. So then page seven, the last one
031where we're gathering any data, uh is where we gather the data to break down the data, uh and filter it out. So, we ask a few questions about age, making sure that their primary residence is in the district so we can focus on those folks who would be able to vote on a potential referendum, which municipality they live in, so that we can see if there's any pockets of uh specific support or specific opposition. Uh, and you can dive a little deeper into why that might be. employee and do you have children attending are two of the most important questions because that allows us to break down the results by staff, parents, and non-parents non- staff, which are the biggest group in your community. Um, and so it's really important to be able to see
032how each of those groups is feeling. And then finally, an information question. How do you like to receive information from us? Uh, and we've got website, couple different options for newsletters, board meetings, emails, social media, and then folks can add something else in if they have other ways they'd like to receive information from the district. We have one quick overall satisfaction question. On a scale of 0 to 10, how likely would you be to recommend the district to a friend or family member? We give them some space to share why, and then we thank them for their participation. And page eight is the mailer so that it gets to everybody in your community. Any questions or or overall thoughts here? >> How many people do you think will be receiving this? Do do you have
033that number? >> Um hold on. I might be able to get it for you. We typically have 14,500 units of mail when we do um a direct mail when we did the referendum last year to reach all households in our zip code school district >> because we're sending to all those outlying areas too. So that includes the 14,000 >> and we always put a disclaimer when we did the referendum mailer saying like this is a bulk mailing is our you know we apologize if we if you reach this and you're outside of our service area but due to the restraints bulk mailing there is some overlap. >> Thank you. >> U >> yeah uh last time I came in and we were talking about this we did discuss this might be on one of the
034earlier pages and it might have just been uh something that we kind of skimmed over. We discussed having a specific question about whether or not um the person answering this survey voted in favor of the previous referendum. >> Uh if we don't have that on there, we really need to have that on there. I think that's an important uh distinction to make when we're analyzing the results of this survey. I think that's very important. >> Um was there I think there was was there a rationale given as as far as why that was omitted? I mean, I can I can speak to it >> or Jared or Scott who's also naughty. >> Uh, basically sometimes people are afraid to answer surveys because they don't trust that they're really confidential and like that is the kind
035of question that >> that lead people to be like, oh, I don't know. Will they be able to tell who I am? Why are they asking? I mean, I know I know why that would be valuable information to have, but with surveys like these, we're trying to get the response rates as high as possible. That's the kind of thing that can >> And the other the other thing I think that Scott said last time was, you know, um they may feel like pressure to say I voted for it even though they didn't or vice versa, right? And so we we just thought that that wasn't necessarily going to give us 100% accurate uh data um to determine how they felt this time around versus next time around. And so those were the the couple of
036different reasons we said probably not. >> The the only thing I'd add too is is you know we're a few months out from that now and and realistically some people will have forgotten how they voted. Um, that really does happen for folks who are not thinking about it all the time like you all are. Um, because you're on this board and and committing the time, they may forget how they voted and that means that the data is just not going to be as reliable. >> I disagree. I've known every time how I voted on any issue. >> Yeah. Um, you know, I think the the reason that I brought up last time is uh if 75% of the results you get as feedback in this survey are from people who voted for the previous referendum,
037I don't think that you're making any headway towards developing a new referendum that is more likely to pass. Um, that would be my concern is that if overwhelmingly you're getting responses from people who would vote for something that the majority of the community didn't want, that's going to be pretty tough. But, uh, I suppose we'll see what happens there. But, if that's going to be the case, I think we're going to need to take the surveys with a grain of salt, uh, depending on what the outcome is. >> So, I I can't help but think that we can compare the data once we get it to the voter results from the election and and do those numbers comparatively. >> Sure. But I mean, yeah, but the the analysis there would be like you're asking about
038different numbers. You're asking in a different climate now. So like I'm not sure how how rigorous that analysis would be. >> So it would be apples to oranges. >> Yeah. I don't know that you could really say I mean I think it's also it's always important to say that yeah survey results always ought to be taken with a grain of salt. the the response rate that we would be looking at here would be 30% at the highest of these 14,000. So, as we have said, I think in earlier meetings, we're not trying to randomly sample the community. We're trying to invite everybody's voices, but not everybody is going to give their voice. But using the the method, this particular method, we are like 94% accurate when it comes to like predicting a vote. If if
039if the survey comes back, we weight it according to like uh demographic voting trends. We're like, here's where you're likely to be. If districts pick on the like majoritarian side of that, we're just right about where that number is 94% of the time is is our success rate. That's all that I would say that is I'm not trying to discount like absolutely take it with a grain of salt. >> Um so on that topic uh we talked about uh I don't know that you were here in this meet that meeting but we talked about um having the surveys filled out by people who come to our meetings. um is say we'll have a a referendum discussion meeting like we had before and the the question was is that possible so that we put a we
040waited for you guys to answer the question so I'm asking that now >> let me see if I so you'd have a big listening session >> right >> and then you'd be like here's a copy of the survey >> and then people would be like thank you. I I don't see any problem with that. >> Okay. Well, the individual these are all geared so that you don't end up with doubles. >> Yeah. >> Is there a way to do that? Do you have any experience with that? I yeah, I would recommend what we've seen districts do is at events like that where they're, you know, either talking about a potential referendum or promoting the survey is they either have a little handout that uh sort of just reminds people to take it rather than having
041the survey itself. And it can repeat some of the information about like, oh, if you misplaced your survey or need an additional one, call us. because then that calling act, you know, can help you make sure you're not giving it out to the same person a bunch, but I wouldn't give out surveys at the event uh for that data integrity reason. >> Yeah, Julian, >> I want to go back to Sam's question just momentarily. Sam, I I do understand why that information is important, >> but when you look at a survey like this, and I think we probably all have done this, there's nothing on here that propels any person taking it to fill out everything. You have gotten many surveys over the years that were very, very scantily filled out. I'm sure. >> Yeah.
042>> Um people have an uncanny ability of saying, "I don't want them to know that." And so they'll skip over those questions. I think Sam, the question that we're interested in and that has validity at at a at a point is one of those questions that invites people to skip over. >> Mhm. Um so that we automatically probably water down the number of responses that we get on that just because people may not remember or and you know contrary >> for what I voted for for president in >> Johnson because Goldwater was going to use was going to nuke. >> So I I think that look I love I love the questions that we have. Um, I'm fully anticipating there are going to be a number of questions on there that are skipped by people
043who just say, "Nope, not filling all of it out. I give you what I want you to know." And, um, I think that one just kind of begs that type of response. >> Yeah. My my thought was the same thing on that is that, uh, those who voted no are less likely to fill it out. They're not less likely to say no. The yes people may say yes, the no people aren't going to answer that question or maybe not even fill out the survey. That's one of the things they don't want people to know. >> So, I have a basic question. Every once in a while, I'm rem reminded in a remarkable way how new several of us are on this board. Was there any survey sent out prior to last April's um referendum? No.
044>> Okay. Thank you. That's all I need. Thank you. >> Um I have another question. >> So, um can we go back to the first page? >> Sure. >> Absolutely. Mhm. >> I was hoping we would get a copy before the meeting so we would have all, you know, be current, but >> it looks like we're not getting one. Um, so on the first page, I ran I ran the first draft toward past two people and they said, "This is not clear. What are you trying to ask me here?" >> Uh, so I'm looking to see, did you fix it? So this is one of those places where uh we didn't take that longer suggestion and the reason is that uh as I think you noted the information. So if I'm remembering correctly tell me
045if I'm wrong >> the the ask was to basically expand question one to get into some of the details about where the deficit comes from what it looks like that that sort of thing. Uh and I think that you noted that we do get to that on page three. >> Yep. but not here. So, what we're trying to do is get people to fill out the survey. And so, it's the big thing. And so, like this front page just has to be like, >> "We need your input to help with these two challenges. Here are the brief descriptions of the challenges. I'm gonna make Scott mad, but I would not be opposed to like putting a little thing at the end of question, the end of one that says like details on page three or
046something." But >> that would be awesome. spelling that out in that huge paragraph or making that into a bigger paragraph would >> well that's yeah that's that's why I wrote I'm like don't take this this is just you need to fix it >> if you're cognitive loading the first page right and people get too heavy in content they're going to think I can't do the rest of this survey and they're just not going to take it if you you know give them some you know easier uh you know why the survey is happening and then kind of like that easy starter question, right? And then get them into the heavier content. Usually there's more success rate. At least that's how you explained it to me earlier, Scott, right? >> Yeah. And we really want to
047start out by just defining the problems, right? We the solutions come later and and we want their opinions when we've been able to expand, but we want to define at its most basic here the problem so that someone can understand why you're asking for their input. you're asking for their input because we have a budget deficit that's not sustainable. Then I can open and find out, well, why do you have a budget deficit that's not sustainable? We've got those bullets and more explanation on page three. But what we want someone to walk away from on page one is you need my input because your financial situation's not sustainable and six of our schools were built before 1970 and need significant updates. Um, so they they can understand that when they just glance at it. Did
048did we also have some sort of a website indicated where um if somebody would like to find more information about this, they can go to our district site. I mean, would that make sense to try to make sense to me? >> We don't have that right now, but I think we absolutely could add that. Um, we've got space underneath here where we could do a nice little designed box that just says for more information. Um, put in a text box, >> right? because we had our last uh fiscal meeting and in the board meeting where we decided that actually no it was the fiscal meeting that was they decided to move forward with a financial dashboard >> and I think that's really useful too >> and then insert websites and we'll get a web link
049from Jared and the admin team um to make sure we're directing folks to the right place. But we can put a box down here. Um, have it outlined and everything. I'll make it colorful, uh, so it stands out. Um, and we can even throw, if you all would want, a QR code on there. Um, if folks are interested in that, um, some places want it, some don't. >> And Miss Huffman, I for the record, I really love that enrollment graph as well. Like that website is where it should go. survey itself. >> There's a lot of that like you're going to be communicating on so much information and like that website is a great place. >> Our struggle was with just trying to get all of that information in this 8h survey. Okay. I think
050that's I think it's brilliant to be able to do it that way because then at least because if you piqu somebody's interest enough um where they're really curious on the needs um that aren't completed completely answered in this particular survey. They have a way to um to seek other additional information. >> And to that point, I I think you should put the QR code in. >> Okay. I I it doesn't take up too much space. >> You all are really seeing how the sausage is made here as I move things around and and make things colorful. But um yeah, we'll we'll throw a QR code on there once we finalize that web link. For sure. >> Sure. Thank you. And I also imagine that Jared's going to be putting things in paper information. Um yeah,
051planning has talked about a number of different reachouts uh and um they will they will really heavily um get into that especially after resolution is passed by the board, right? Um but on the front end, um Melissa and I are scheduled to meet u tomorrow, I believe, to go over um some of the survey um like survey sessions that other school districts have done and communicated out. So, we got some information back from other school districts about, hey, you've worked with school perceptions to communicate out a survey. How did you do that? Right? We're going to take some of their examples and uh finalize and do those mockups. Um and then um you all uh want to talk about uh our engagement sessions like when you know what you think those would look like, how
052you guys want to participate in those and that's part of our agenda today. So um after we're we're done with this and we think this is what we want, you know, we'll go through and we'll approve this for uh delivery in the mail, right? And then we can move on to the next section which is to talk about how do we want to roll out that and talk about rollout strategies. >> Scott, you've done a really good job on this survey. I especially like page six. >> Derrick did too. >> Derek to explain page six in one page I think is brilliant. >> So, >> thank you very much. It really was a team effort. Um, as much as I hate to give credit to Derek, um, it really, >> he's a Bears fan. I
053just have to let everybody know. >> I resend that. >> Derek, we were having such a good meeting. Why'd you have to do that? I >> All right. >> We can't all be winners. >> Wow. We're have to start separating everybody here. I know >> different corners. >> Could you refresh us what the projected mail dropped date is, please? >> I have >> it is we're looking at we're going to send it to the printer on October 10th, planning for three weeks to uh do the bulk mailing process. We're going to mail it out on October 24th and it should land in mailboxes the week of October 29th and 30th. >> Wow, that's great. And what's the turnaround date? >> November 17th is the deadline. Okay. >> We will you will have access to the
054survey results uh very shortly after through like an online dashboard. We will put reports together within a two week uh thing. >> Awesome. >> Yeah. And we've got a we've got a board presentation scheduled for December 1st to share that. >> Will you accept anything after the deadline? >> Um yes. The secret is we never actually closed the survey. Like it still only goes to your vote, but like >> before I worked for school perceptions, last time school perceptions did this survey for my district, I was definitely, oh no, I've missed the deadline. Mine definitely got it into the analysis. Like we're we're going to start working on the reports very shortly after. But it's not an uncommon thing for us to present the survey results and for like the numbers to be slightly different
055than what you can see on the dashboard because we're talking like 10 people additionally might have filled out the survey between the generation report and that >> glad you said. So just a little bit more about the the timeline. Uh those surveys are due I believe on the 17th. Is that right? And then um we will start having meetings internally uh about some of the data sets that we're getting back so that Sarah and I can start um down a process of working on what a resolution might look like. the first week of December, we'll have a meeting to go over those with you uh and get your final direction for a resolution and then uh we will turn around a resolution uh with Corals and Brady um just in that one and a half
056week timeline uh in order to be ready for the board meeting. But Corals and Brady already knows they've got us queued up in their system. They're just waiting for what you have to say based on our survey results. So, um, that's really good. Um, in the meantime, uh, between, uh, now and, uh, uh, us, uh, getting the survey back from the printers and and mailing, um, Melissa and I, Melissa Lampy and I are going to be working with, um, people from Cullen. Uh, part of what we've been working on them with with our facilities discussion and survey is that they have a marketing uh, group that is way bigger than our one person. uh and they're the ones who gave us some of the information from some other school districts to share uh and um
057would be happy to help us with any graphic design or whatever else we need to to get people here to hear about the survey uh and and do those survey walkthrough meetings or however you would like those to look. So, that's kind of our our timeline between now and and then. Um, just want to know if there's any questions about the timeline before we start talking about those um survey um meetings to to learn more about the survey itself and get you, myself, and everybody else in front of people who may have questions about the survey. Uh, and uh give them some hand bills to remind them to take the survey uh and those kinds of things. So, so the idea is once we get the the um information back on the survey, we'll develop
058internally the direction we want to go. And once we determine that, are we going to share with the public any of the information that we learned as a result of the survey? >> Yes. So, at that board meeting in December, that first week of December, that's when you and the board are will share out, you know, school perceptions, we'll share out the results of the survey, right? It'll be like the same format for the like staff, student, and parent survey. Same kind of PowerPoint. Here are all the results. Here's what each demographic >> come to the board meeting. >> We're we're um we're literally going to have the data just like one week before you will, but that will be to try to start um you know, giving some ideas of here's here's kind of
059what we see and what it looks like from an administrative standpoint. Here's some options that you might have from that piece. Um, and we'll work with school perceptions on that to make sure that we're not interpreting it incorrectly. All right. Any other questions regarding surrounding the survey approval? We're we don't have any more questions on the survey itself. All right. So, we talked about the timeline. Um any thoughts on the next steps? >> What would you guys like to see? Um and how would you envision uh communicating out uh the need to take the survey, the information behind the survey? Um or any of those topics and how would you like us to proceed with that information help? >> No, you go first. I'm sure you got a better question than me. >> No, it's
060not a question so much as it it would seem to me that um communications whether they're from the individual schools, the schools look like they're on a cycle of once a week giving out their emails from the and from central office that any communication that goes out there should be some kind of a reminder that um assuming that their dates hold. Derek, if you're sure that by, you know, at October 24th or whatever it was, that these will begin dropping or whatever. >> Yes. >> That that you should be expecting to see a survey. This is your opportunity to give us your input. We're we're I think we use every opportunity like that to let people know to expect that they're going to get that. I was just going to clarify uh to that point,
061we do email the survey um as part of this process to every staff member and every parent that you have an email address for. Um and built into that, we have our software allows us to send reminder emails uh to folks who haven't filled it out yet. Um and so there throughout the process, there is um a reminder email. I I believe there's usually two. One about a week after it lands and then another uh maybe a few days or a week before the deadline to just say this is your last chance to fill out the survey. So we do send those to staff and parents whose emails are on file. >> Yeah. And then um I'm scheduled to go to uh building staff meetings and just to share more information about the survey and
062anything else they have. Um, I think it's going to be good to have the uh the web link with the the QR code that will explain a lot should people not engage in those sessions. >> Look, the the group I'm concerned most concerned about are the people who are going to vote that do not have children in the district. >> Correct. >> Okay. That's my that's the group. And I think we have to think strategically about how whether we do there's a couple of different ways to think about how to how to reach them before the um actual survey hits there without having to spend another change for a mailing. But >> Julian, that's exactly why I'm asking you what your thoughts are. Um because we've attempted many times to get like a spectrum of
063different people within our community, those who um you know uh you know aren't necessarily happy and and and have been vocal, right? Um but the engagement is not forthcoming, right? It's just we're we're having a hard time getting them to show up at a meeting. Um, so what happens is we end up getting the same people and many of you who have been on the board for a number of years have seen it's just like the same 50 people will show up. But I'm I'm having a hard time as a school district and as administration really getting more voices, other voices uh here or or asking questions or even just reviewing that kind of information from that standpoint. So, if you have ideas on how we can get to the reach out, get get to
064those groups generate. >> Yeah, that's what I'm asking for. Tam, >> so these are my thoughts just off the cuff. Um, have full page flyers. I don't know if color black and white makes too much of a difference. And you should be putting them at least at the four coffee shops in town that I can think of off the top of my head. That's Latte Donate, Laradas, uh, has Connection Cafe and um, Paris. Uh, in addition to that, I think that Mullins would be a good place to put something like that as well as the grocery stores if they're willing to let you put it out. In addition to those full-size flyers, I think that having miniature flyer uh with a QR code and um just a little bit of information as a reminder would
065be really useful. So, I think that would be a part of just like a passive reminder. A lot of people will let you put that on the counter next to uh next to the register. That'll be helpful. Um like a stack of those miniature ones and then wherever they have their bulletin boards. In addition to that, I think that going out to those four coffee shops and maybe some of those other locations, the library would also be a good spot potentially. Um, and having an administrator, whether it's you or Sarah, I'm sorry, just thinking head services for a sec. Jenny, uh, whether it's you or Sarah would be a great choice. And then having you guys pair up with one board member and go out for a set period of time uh, and have that
066be an agended open meeting. Um, just so that people know, other board members could show up if available. You could do it a variety of different times and then have the topic specifically be a discussion of the referendum and survey. And I think that that would uh that would help people have healthy conversations there. >> The target audit audience you're talking about would it would be good to have that same thing at churches. >> Yeah. Well, those little things that you're talking about producing like business card size. >> If it you if you could get those to people like us because we move in the circles a lot of us where people don't have kids in these schools. So, and and our WSD schools so we can hand those out if they have the QR
067code on them takes them directly to the survey then we have a better opportunity to engage them. >> Yeah. That that's Yes. Yes. also to the the district's website that has all the information. The >> certainly certainly >> one thing to add that I've seen other districts do uh Mustin in particular had a great deal of success with this. It it's very important not to put you know school personnel or parents in the position of selling a survey or like feeling like they're selling a referendum. So, if it is just like a QR code that just goes to the basic information site, >> uh allowing like having staff members just with that information, not necessarily with a survey itself because they're going to get hit up by community members who are like, "Hey, you work
068in the schools. I hear this thing is happening. What's this about?" They can just be like, "Here's a card." Like, I don't have to have an uncomfortable conversation or like make it feel make you feel any kind of way. Here's the information. >> And no one should feel like they are selling any specific outcome. This is really purely just about what are people in the community interested in. If every survey we get back says no referendum, zero referendum, I think that we have a responsibility to reflect in our actions what the community has broadly stated as far as a referendum is concerned. Um, do we have any radio station that we used to have our own radio station in Watertown that did a wonderful job of broadcasting local news. We don't have that anymore. But
069is there is there any >> Well, I know like TKM >> Yeah. >> does Yeah. It has a pretty big reach in this area. >> They do. And you know, they'll run PSAs. >> Yeah. >> For free. >> Yeah. >> If it if it can be worded as a true PSA, you know, relative to, hey, Watertown Unified School District's sending out a survey. Really important that concerned citizens fill it out and get it back. Uh maybe maybe some of those stations would do that. I don't know. Do um do we have any I kind of hate to mention this. Does it make sense to put anything in the paper? >> Yeah, I'm >> Well, I don't know. I The paper's gotten so small something so thin. So, so late. Um I don't know. >> I
070think you try all things. >> Yeah. I don't know what the paper would charge to run something like that. >> They don't They typically don't charge a submit press release or pictures. >> Oh, they wouldn't. Oh, well that's a good deal then. >> Like wouldn't add it obviously because it's something that would be news related to the school district that has a press release. >> I'm trying. >> Yeah, I think the card you mentioned Julian is good for us to use in the churches. I can take it to Marath and put it, you know, go around the offices that I that I know, you know, we could hand it out there. It's a it's a non confrontational type of thing to tell them that there's a survey you want. >> So are we just ad
071I mean is a card is the intention for the card to advertise for the survey or uh is the card also going to be useful for perhaps u advertising a listening session or or areas in which there could be a listening session for the for the >> they think they wanted the card. I think the card you'd want to make it as I guess it depends on what kind of card you get. If it's an actual business card, you want it to be as generic as possible, right? You don't want to put any dates on it in case the dates change. >> Biggest bang for our buck is going to be a business card. >> Just do it and just do a QR code on it and then whatever and then you can put stuff
072on the website. You can talk about the information about why there's a question about a referendum. You can put stuff about any listening sessions or Q&As's that you guys set up. Um, but I think those I think that passive information is great. I think setting up active Q&As's about the referendum is going to be the key to um getting some good feedback there. I think that the direct feedback you're going to get from people who are willing to engage is going to be incredibly valuable in that regard. Um it's going to be a specific group of people, but I think that there's a decent amount of people who would rather engage face to face than fill out a survey. But >> how do how do we capture that extra? And by that I mean outside
073of the actual survey, somebody's gonna, if you're going to do that, Sam, somebody's gonna have to be a recorder to make sure that those ideas get written down and somehow added into the body of knowledge that we get back from the survey. >> And so I would recommend that we actually record those Q&A sessions as an open meeting um the way that we record all of our open meetings in this room. Um you would have to talk to, you know, if you were going to go to Litize, you'd have to talk to them about recording uh in in that environment. But I think it would be very useful. Uh, I think it would help out and I don't think that most people who'd be willing to engage and ask questions would have a problem with
074that. It's about the referendum. Um, the goal is not to have people, you know, it's not to it's not to get into even a debate. It's just like, hey, let's give you some information. You give us some of your thoughts about where things are. I think that you get some valuable things and you have it for further reference down the line. I would I would also just add to that to encourage those folks if they are willing to share face tof face which is wonderful really encourage them to fill out the survey so that their voices reck uh is a part of the data that you all have to use to to make the decisions you know and and it's important to let them know that you're capturing what they say at those meetings but
075also how important it is for them to be a part of the data I would just say encourage that if you do have those interactions I guess I guess I'm kind of curious if um if uh if you're recording a meeting in a in a uh casual setting um if you're deterring somebody from being able to speak very candidly with you about why they don't support something. Well, you can always have that conversation with someone outside of that environment, but I think that if you're at a uh I'm thinking uh so say at the at uh not litter at uh Hades, they have that middle room between the laundry area, you could have discussions in there potentially, right? If you're in this more formal environment, I think that you're inviting a certain kind of person
076to come and talk to you about their ideas about the referendum. I think that you want to cast a wide net in a variety of different ways to get feedback from people. And don't get me wrong, I think the survey is fantastic. You guys do a great job. I've been very satisfied with the work you've done since we since we met. Um, but I think that casting that wide net is good. And I think that no matter what, if you're having a meeting as a school board, there's going to be recording of that meeting, even if it's not by you. And I think you're better off having that recording happen on your end, so you have a complete capture of the thoughts during the meeting than having it just be partially recorded by one person
077here or there, which may end up misrepresenting your thoughts or even worse, the thoughts and ideas of someone who comes and speaks to you in public or comes and speaks to you during a meeting. >> I would I would also just add to that that anybody who might be dissuaded from being perfectly candid about what they think will not necessarily be dissuaded on the survey. Yes. And or not. So, >> I think J and I will have to put our minds together a little bit on how that would look. I mean, because obviously you'd have to Yeah, I hear what you're saying. >> Daycarees in the food bank. You should hit those places up. >> Very good. Well, I mean I mean that comment that you just made there also sparked some thoughts behind this
078too where we uh in the past where we did our when we did our strategic planning. One of the concerns of participation was that parents didn't have child care um you know to participate and um I think I think we did end up having some child care at the at the library >> for for participation. >> So that's if if that's uh something we should be considering. I don't know or some thoughts on that. quick trip. >> I'm not opposed to it having a place where I guess kind of turnout did you get the night that you had child care? Was it an increase of turnout? >> Uh, a couple. >> Okay. >> I mean, but not it wasn't like all of a sudden we had 30 people show up. >> Okay. >> Did you
079do it? We had some high schoolers uh high schoolers watch the kids and >> but let's not conflate these issues because you didn't have anything for survey before for on the last on the last one. So what you're talking about are meetups for specific questions about a referendum question that was going to be on the ballot. >> Right. That that's different than >> that's different from people to fill out the survey >> and to give us information formally or informally about whether and whether or not um they are even interested in the three options that we have to me those are kinds of those that's a different kind of situation a different kind of conversation. Um, >> yeah, I I see these as meetings where we say, "Hey, if you want to learn more about
080this survey and or have questions for clarity about the survey before you take it, we're available." >> Right? I mean, that's that's what I that's what I see these meetings as. And tell me if that's what you see because I don't I don't want to build something out there that you say, "Well, that's not what I thought we were talking about." But I was I thought we were talking about like if we're going to have some meetings where a board member and I or or Sarah or whoever um is in a location, right? We're there to simply answer any questions people have about the survey and give them more information about how they can take the survey. >> Right? Because I don't think that we want to be put in a position pre-ervey result of
081what we're going to do, >> right? Because we don't know what we're going to do. That's right. And and I know people are going to try to push or ask and I'll say that's what this survey is to help us. >> That's exactly right. The messaging on those kind of of meetups has to be controlled. >> Yes. >> And it's got because we can't be pressured into talking specifics on a on something we don't know what it looks like. >> Exactly. Well, and that's where the agenda comes in. You put it on the agenda. It's a posted meeting. We are here in a posted meeting. This is what's on the agenda. This is what we have to stick to. I mean, Sam brought up one possible uh solution out of a number of them, right?
082Which is we get a lot of feedback that says people are interested in a referendum, right? Well, we've got about four different answers for that already that I know of, right? Um but each step along the way, we're going to have plenty of questions that people are going to ask. Uh and then some people are going to conflate construction stuff with operations stuff and we're going to say listen uh we're not >> we're not there >> we're getting information on the construction stuff but we need to have an idea of this right >> so so when I took the sample survey to to people to see what kind of response I got a lot of questions I couldn't answer and I think it would be great to you know to have these events where >>
083you know Sarah or you um are there to to answer the well what about this building what you know does it have a is the roof good you know I can't answer those questions right but I can answer some basic questions and and I think that >> they didn't want to they didn't want to give a response until they had more information and so you know not everybody's going to be like that >> but there's the the people who are are going to want to go to the >> they're going to want to go to an informational session around the survey itself. >> Right. Right. So that's what I envision. So >> you need to have an administrator and you need to have a board member there. >> Right. >> Is the I think it
084is I think I know the answer to this but just to make sure the facility study is online, right? >> Yes. Yes. >> That should be linked to >> Yeah, that'll be part of the >> answer a lot of those questions. If you go through that thing, man, that answers a ton of questions. Yeah, we're going to have some of the information on the survey, right? That's going to be not the survey, but repeated there. We're going to have some facility stuff that's repeated there. We're going to have a whole bunch of other things like mill rate um enrollment stuff, those other things. Can we can we also consider adding to that page a list of um cost-saving measures the board has taken over the last several years? >> Yeah, sure. you know, >> load
085it up. >> Yeah. Well, I mean, it makes sense. >> Yeah. I mean, we have basically the list that was created for the last referendum and then the cuts that we made this year attached to it. So it's not a it's not a not not just cuts but like strategic um planning that involved um you know like for instance the the insurance um moving from a self-funded insurance plan to that you know I mean those are those are important >> moving yeah I mean >> yes I mean >> the overall point that was made a little bit ago is really well taken. You're starting on this you're starting on this conversation where there's a survey that's asking about asking some fairly specific questions about an operating referendum and what should be pursued if anything. >>
086Then there's going to be a point in which you make a decision about whether to put a referendum on the ballot and some people are going to fill out the survey and then a lot of people are going to tune in the minute that referendum is on the ballot. So having that website, so it's going to be like phase one of communication is take the survey. Phase two is really like, wait, what are being asked to vote for it? And then underneath all that is the facilities question, which is much bigger and much more open-ended. There aren't any like concrete possibilities that are uh out in public. And so that conversation is going to have to happen sort of at the same time and yet be kept separate from the other two. It's delicate. It
087just is something to be aware of. Well, in other words, we have to keep saying right now we're talking operational operational. >> Yes. >> 18 to 24 months out from the the pad answer when people start talking about facilities is listen, we just asked some really uh uh light questions on the front end. We're developing a deeper survey for later on. That's why we said 18 to 24 months. >> That will satisfy most people when they want to talk about >> the facilities. >> Yeah. >> Because we'll just simply say we're not there yet. And the most important thing is our operating referendum. >> Yeah. >> Right. And that that's that's I think the message that we all need to have is yes, we understand we're we're going to develop a a another survey around
088that piece in the next 18 to 24 months, but really the most important thing right now is this operational referendum uh and getting feedback about that. >> Yeah. And I think that, you know, being able to express those things verbally, you can even take, like I said, if you're recording it after it's done, you can even take those, clip those into YouTube shorts and put them up on the district YouTube channel. It could be very useful for people to get fast answers about a lot of those questions. Question, are you talking about redesigning buildings and architectural projects? 10-second answer. No, we might talk about that in 18 months. There's a few like questions. End of story. People get that video. People share that around on Facebook. You've got a lot of reach just with that,
089>> right? >> So, go ahead. >> So, um this lands in people's mailboxes the 29th and the coming month. Um can how how much sooner than that can we start uh going out and and explaining to people that this is coming? Is that worth it? What are what are your >> I mean I think it's worth it as I mean I I happen to know that in my own community there's going to be a survey landed in three weeks and I just started telling people that without before the district got out in front of it. It never hurts to >> we we already have the timeline out there for people to see. Um we can start teasing that if that's what you're saying suggesting. Yeah. >> There's going to be a survey coming. think about
090some things. >> It's nice to know it's coming and be informed and it lands and you can just fill it out and get rid of it. >> So, in that case, I think that we should try to make theformational business cards and the larger flyers that go up on a bulletin or in a window. We should try to make both of those in the next couple of weeks. And we should really be setting up to have someformational Q&As where people can people can come and ask questions if they so choose and, you know, an administrator and a board member can give answers. We should probably be trying to do that no further out than 3 weeks from now. >> Oh yeah, we're rocking on that already. I mean, we're already having those conversations. >> I
091meet tomorrow, too, to >> Awesome. >> Could you do like a chamber spotlight or something like that, too, where we can um where we can potentially have just a stack of um literature that could be sent out to people's businesses by conference. So wake up water tone too would be another >> that morning meeting >> it would go on the school social media site right >> oh absolutely >> and also another great way to reach um communities through chamber eblast there's a small cost associated with but that goes to all the chamber member businesses and and that we just stress you know please share with your employees because sometimes those eblasts go to maybe four people at a business but it's getting it from those four people out to the whole the whole Okay. Anything
092else for us to think about? >> Those are great ideas and suggestions. I really appreciate you guys thinking through those with us and >> yeah, >> we'll hit we'll hit them up and um add those to the communication plan that we're already starting and working on. Um and just kind of share with you anformational piece. Hey, just want you guys to know here's the communication plan based on your ideas and some of the other ones we had. Here's what you're you're going to be able to see, right? I don't we don't need a a board meeting to have that. I'll just share it out as information here. Here here's here's the information about when these things are going to be teased out or dropped or whatever else, right? Then if we uh as as we
093get um some of those uh visuals uh ready and up up and going, you you guys will be the first to see those visuals. um and so on. So um a large part of the district happens to be in the outskirts too. Um so if there are any thoughts or ideas on how we can reach uh those communities. >> Yeah. Um Casey's or Richwood. >> Sure. >> What are you looking at me for? Oh, I don't know. >> Anybodyies? >> I'd say congregations and grocery stores probably know the best way to go. >> I'd be happy to drive out to any number of places with those business cards and some flyers and be like, "Hey, got this stuff. Would you guys be willing to put it out?" Most people would be very happy to do
094so. >> Yeah. Lions Pub has a little table for community stuff. We can put it there. >> So, do you guys want a business card size or a hand bill, which is a quarter sheet of paper? like what do you think is like going to be the most eyeoping when it's >> both are going to be uh something that we're going to need to I mean they both serve different functions right >> in addition to a full sheet ad that goes on a bulletin >> yes >> the reason I like the business side business card size is I can carry them and hand them out >> and I can just carry a whole bunch of them and hand them out all kinds of places >> some places don't have room for a you know a
095larger thing so there's stuff >> hand sitting on counter. >> You know, it's a little bit bigger. Catches your eye than a little business card. >> There's still four weeks left for the farmers market in October. A lot of people go there and she actually the um Missy is her name. She posts a lot of things. I think she would do that as well that the surveys come. You could have a table at the farmers market if someone is interested with stacking it. >> Yeah, >> I could do that. >> Yeah, >> just uh make sure you double check those dates on your calendar. >> I just So, it's through October. Just make sure I I'll check with you so that you give me the literature and and it' be nice not to be alone.
096>> I will come out and be there. No, we're looking at Sarah. >> I'm kidding. >> We We We will try to find somebody. >> I'll take 250 business cards. Really? >> Yep. Me, too. >> I got a page on the website. >> Yes. >> Yeah. And then I'll I'll I'll be living in constant fear that for some reason I'll break the QR code link in doing an update. So that will be like me for the next several months. I'll just I'll be a mess. >> We did it last time. It was okay. You're good. >> We have a neighboring school district that happened too though when the survey went out and I thought, "Oh gosh." >> Yeah. All their codes were gone. Do you ever do the senior center? >> I don't have Judy
097or >> I don't have Judy anymore for that. >> So So when you get everything up and running and you're all ready to flip the switch, can you just shoot us all an email so we know to get from you? Yes. Thank you. >> I'll need Jared and Sarah's input as to what we want to put on the new page because the last referendum page we just unpublished because the >> Oh, yeah. information isn't right now. So, we kind of have to start over with. >> Yeah. So, whenever you get that live, just let us know. >> Thank you. >> All right. Um, was there any any other u thoughts surrounding the next steps in discussion? All right. Let one of the last things on our agenda is then to um the vote on the
098resolution. So it's resolution 9431 referendum planning survey. Be it resolved the Watertown Unified School District Board of Education approves the referendum planning survey and delivery through school perceptions as discussed in agenda item 2A. So basically as they had presented it with the edits that we had discussed tonight. >> So moved. >> Second. >> Moved by Rory. Second call please. >> Okay. >> Linda Oberunner. >> Yes. >> Samal. >> Yes. >> Carl Schwarzy. >> Yes. >> Dan Wner. >> Yes. >> Craig Wharton. >> Yes. >> Julian Ale. >> Yes. >> Tammy Forier. Yes. David Handyside. >> Yes. >> Lorie Hoffman. >> Yes. >> The motion carries. >> All right. We uh hear a motion to adjourn. So move. >> Can I ask one question? >> Can we get the dates of all the schools parent teacher
099conferences? >> Yes, we created a document. >> A good place to >> Yeah. Yeah. We put together a document of all parent teacher conferences, concerts, and other events where we know we're going to have a lot of parents and buildings. So that's I think just been shared internally via admin, but that needs to take go to the next step. We're going to be having board members attending those meetings that we have discussed in the subcommittee. Okay. >> All right. It was moved by Carl and seconded by Tammy that we adjourn. >> All those in favor of adjourning. I opposed the motion. Please stand. >> Thank you all very much. Have a great night. >> Thank you, dear. Thanks for coming here. >> Please, everyone, take a sign. >> We were wondering about those. So, these
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