001see >> we live very near parking >> is usually an issue Yeah. Like it came. >> Yeah. >> And I was like, is this some sort of fluke or something? And then I opened up my Twitter and like the first video I got was like Phil. Um it's 5 o'clock so we'll go ahead and start the planning meeting. Um we're going to start with a strategic plan. >> Yes. Thank you. And so I think I have the the first four items, five scroll through those and there are questions along any way, please stop me. And so we always want to talk about updates related to our strategic plan. So couple updates. Uh one is related to our uh parent and student engagement survey and it was our first year last year uh doing that survey
002and take time to reflect on how it went and also consider things that we could do differently or better. So this s this morning actually Chris Mallaloy and I met with Derek Got Gotautle who we've met here and walked us through the data to do those two very things talk about how the survey went and talk about opportunities. One of the opportunities that really surfaced was ensuring that uh the alignment of our questions to our core values. one of the goals of those surve the the student engagement survey and Derek has some ideas of how we can better align those questions and so he's going to bring some ideas when when he has those questions out Chris Malloy and I we'll talk through those revisions and then when Chris and I are comfortable and Derek
003are comfortable I'll bring those here for consideration and and conversation so just an update on think I've mentioned it before but our core value posters are getting uh distributed to our our schools and that's an exciting piece to see when I when I visit schools. I also been using our core values in some of our communications connecting it to you technology. An example is that I crafted a message um um related to Chromebooks and and how to treat a Chromebook and I used our core values as platform for those discussions. So we're looking for connections to our strategic plan when we communicate as well. Then the last update I have on strategic planning is I think last time we were together I mentioned the development of a data team that Chris Mallaloy and I were
004thinking about and we've identified some folks at every building and we've reached out to and I think we're just waiting on a couple responses from people but we have a unanimous well mostly unanimous uh a willingness to participate in a data team and it would be the first time we have such a thing. And the idea is that on on first uh the first week of every month, our director team and principles would see some data set. The next week, that data team will look at that same data set and specific to their buildings. And we really want to just model that that collaborative process of looking at data and also encourage those folks to bring that data back and the processes to their buildings. So we're still working through the the finer details of
005that, but it's it's exciting endeavor that Chris Malloy and I will engage in questions about strategic plan. Okay, thank you. Uh next to I kind of combine budget planning and long-term facilities. I have four things that I wrote down here is the first one is that we know that the the lion share of these conversations related to uh budget referendum and long-term facilities are really going through our fiscal committee. I think it's important to bring it here just as as updates. Uh the second is that we know that this this evening actually we're going to uh connect with Derek Gotle to continue the conversation about those community surveys and that's an important next step and we also know that uh many conversations are go undergoing right now about the future of our district. Uh the
006last thing I wrote here is that we've calendared some community engagement events and so uh last year was our our first dabble in that. I think we had three or four of those community engagement sessions at the Mark Court and the senior center and the library I believe. So we've calendared for those and the planning for those are still ongoing but we're excited about those events as well. Anything questions about uh budget or long-term facilities? >> I do have a question about the community engagement event. Is there any way we could expand the venues outside of Markport and the library? >> Absolutely. And if you have ideas, certainly we're open to that. You can share them with me when we connect. >> Not a problem. >> Yeah. I think the more that we can expand
007that footprint, the better. >> Okay. Perfect. And as we get into the conversations more, you know, um probably starting to transition as we were transitioning away from the planning and into a resolution, right? This committee in the past has taken over the planning of those uh types of events and discussion points. Uh and so we may want to at the next meeting of planning really make sure we agenda that for a deep discussion as to what what kinds of things do we want to >> put out there to the community during these events, where would they be? Um if there are other kinds of events or other um things uh we can take uh uh Mr. Bull's timeline out u for referendum planning. uh he's got a number of things scheduled on that as well
008and Melissa Lampy will then also be here again. So um just know that that's going to be you know at our next meeting heavily okay >> as as we as we go from November into a resolution into getting those events going. We're going to have to have some discussion. >> Okay. >> I'll put that as an action item and then I'll put it on our shed. >> Okay. Perfect. When you say they're calendars, that I'm assuming that means they already have a date. >> Yes. >> Will we be apprised of that date soon? >> Absolutely. >> Dates. >> I can share them now. And I'm I'm I'm guessing that Dr. Burke would also have it in his his monthly updates for the full board meeting, but I could share them now. That's helpful. >> Right.
009And they'll be in the uh this month's board meeting where I do my uh director or superintendent report. That last slide is always calendar dates. They'll be on there. >> Thank you. Um given the the timeline for for when perceptions may be ready for a particular survey, do we anticipate perhaps maybe having an engagement uh event where members of the community can either participate in taking the survey or or also, you know, just just try to fill them in on any questions they may have about any particular options. Yeah, that'll be a little bit of nice discussion. Okay. With them. All right. All right. Good conversation. Any other questions? All right. And then the last update is around board of education communications. Uh Melissa Lampy, Tammy and I are scheduled for uh to connect September
01016th and we're going to use that time to debrief and plan about how to really share the work of the board with our community and our and our staff. And we don't know what that looks like at this point, but we're going to uh brainstorm some ideas. And I think it'd be fair to say that we bring those those ideas back to the planning committee before we execute them. But we want to brainstorm some ideas and then bring it back here for a larger discussion. >> And uh can I just add if you guys have ideas possibly sending that to Jason or myself so we can bring those ideas up with Melissa to see if those are feasible for the district to execute and kind of get ahead of the ball instead of behind it
011as it pertains to messaging the community. >> Okay. Did you say this is on September 16th? Yeah, that's when Melissa, Tammy, and I will meet >> to do that kind of brainstorming, then we'll bring it to the next to try to do it. >> Y Okay. Y um I can I have a little bit more context on that? I mean, it seems like a very broad broad thing. I mean, what kind of communication are we we talking about with board of education communication? And are we talking about uh board of education communication to the public, school district uh communication out to the public or we talking about communication like internally or I'm just >> we're talking about externally to the public. >> Okay. >> Right. Because we would like we would like to assist the
012district in sending out positive messaging about the board to the community. >> Okay. So, we're touching base with Melissa since she is the person that coordinates all that to discuss ideas about um bringing up positive changes the district has maybe seen since some implementation of new policies or new practices that were, you know, spearheaded by a board member and was implemented and these are the changes we've seen. It's really just very broad right now, right? Like we don't have any >> okay, >> I say zero direction at this point. We're just at the infancy of the idea. >> I think Tam may surfaced the idea a couple months ago or a month ago and said absolutely we can talk about it but let's bring Melissa into the conversation. That's her expertise and or schedule for
013that. I think that's next week to just brainstorm and we'll bring that here. >> Okay. >> So that' be next week Tuesday. >> Correct. >> Yes. >> Okay. What time? Great question. I will have to check. >> Um I think I got it written down here. >> Um it is at 1 p.m. >> It would be virtual. It wouldn't be in person. >> Okay. >> I mean, you're welcome to attend, but >> here it's between three, >> right? cuz I'm planning it was I had brought it up to Jason and Jason said we can definitely bring that into a planning discussion but we should rope Melissa in to share the idea so we can bring solid ideas to the committee >> you guys have concerns please share please >> yeah when I try virtual I
014don't have much said >> you want to join me in my office >> your office I would sure >> you always have treats and I Remember, right? >> I usually steal from other places. >> Yes, we can find you some treats. >> What do you want? You like salt? Salt eggs would probably be wanting. >> I mean, you're welcome. I mean, anyone's welcome. If we get to a certain number, we'll have to post it as, you know, >> but right now the plan was Tammy, Melissa, and I. But if you're interested, let me know. uh just let me know and then I'll send you an invite and that'll be the governor for >> why don't why don't we post it just to be on a safe side because I think there's tendency that sounds like
015there's an interest in some people >> I will work with Lynn to get it posted but if you do have interest just for planning purposes to know who's going to join us just let me know or Tim you know and then uh we'll have We'll I'll send you the invite. Okay. Those are the updates for tonight. Any other questions? Want to move us along to um discussions if that's okay? Um there's a a link document in the in our uh board board docs there. Angel will have it up here. I also have hard copies if anyone wants it. Um, hard copies if anyone wants it. And so, uh, just some context of where this is coming from. Um, interested in hard copies. >> Yes, I did. >> Thank you. And so just a reminder or
016context to where this is coming from. Uh over the summer we had some conversations mostly at ed services but at full board as well around our ecampus contract renewal. And part of that conversation was the idea to have a board of education liaison join the uh uh governance board of ecampus and endeavor. And so um this is coming from that and tonight really thinking about two things. One is to uh talk through as a as a group about this vision for this to add some clarity and context to that liaison position and also to hopefully identify that liaison because our first meeting is coming up. So it's really twofold our discussion. And so this document that you have in front of you is really my attempt to uh just add clarity to that liaison role.
017So everyone that's participating has clarity on what that liaison role is. And when I was creating this I was really thinking about uh Dr. Burke's work with the board of governance. And what I mean by that is last year Dr. Burke joined every governance board meeting >> and we agenda agenda Dr. Burke's uh presence there and Dr. B did a lot of listening, asked a lot of some questions, answered some questions, not a voting member of the board of governance, but therefore a lot of listening, answering question, providing some updates. You know, when we're in the referendum, he would form a group about the referendum, answer any questions. And so that that kind of set the tone for my creation of this. And so I won't read things to you, but there are uh five
018bullets there that I would envision really governing or providing context and guidance for that board liaison. And so with that, I just take feedback about uh this vision, any suggested revisions. Um again, the goal is just to add clarity. Please, >> this is I just want to make sure that I'm right on this. I know um I know that Endeavor is a charter school. So it has an it has a board. >> Does ecampus is it also considered a charter school with its own board or is there one board over the two of them? >> It's a great question. So they're both charter schools, right? And they have a combined board which is something that when I entered this district has been the process. So combined board. Great question. Thank you. >> Yeah. by law
019they I don't know if everybody on here understands some charter school charter schools >> well they work they have their own board have a school within school >> it is >> well it's a kind of a mini >> it's it's really independent in some way >> do you have an idea what the time commitment for this liaison would be >> yes so the board the governance board of ecampus student endeavor uh meet on even months October to April so that means October December February April and so it's really four month four months of meetings um the we meet on the third Monday and we meet from 1:30 we we usually are done by 2:30. Uh we say that those board meetings are virtual or face to face. Typically what happens is Angel and I sit
020in this boardroom and we're the only people that are in this boardroom. Everyone else connects virtually, but we have both options face to face or virtually. Yes, please. >> So I have a question. Um this looks like your role because you're already doing this and you report back to us. Isn't this duplication of effort here? >> Yeah, that's a great question. I I don't see it as a duplication of effort because I think there I think the idea of a liaison really sprung from conversation about the contract but just like uh Dr. Burke joining it. I think there was a gap, right? And the gap is presence, visibility, and being that conduit. I could certainly speak to the board, but I think there's just the opportunity for a board member to speak to the board.
021And so, I think it's a little different. >> Jason, please correct me if I'm wrong, but it's my understanding that this board constituted um Endeavor and Campus. So these are this was done by this board at some point in the past. So I think that's why it's not a duplication. >> Well, the role seems like a directive. Um I I think that this sounds very um symbolic. That's it. >> You want to clarify or disagree? So, I think from what I remember from the conversation, um, there were some questions board members brought up during the contract negotiation and the way to fill that gap. So, this board felt informed of the ongoings of the charter schools in the district was to get a board liaison, a member of our board to sit in on their
022board meetings. So somebody from our body could update us on what was going on with the decisions that they are making throughout the year. >> Okay. >> So we have like a better understanding outside of just the contracts that come to us to sign. >> Okay. So it's informationational. >> Yeah. It's my understanding. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but that's my understanding of how we got to this point. >> That's why I took it. Yeah. >> That makes sense. Second set of eyes useful. In addition, um just a reminder that we al the ecampus ed endeavor will be coming to ed services uh four times a year uh to bring some fresh data and the first time our calendar to do that is in October. So it's kind of a two club. So I
023would say um for the last three years that I've been here going on my fourth as superintendent there have been some discussions of the board wanting to understand just how the aims of each charter school independently uh and through the combination of that our boards uh together work towards the same uh general direction as our board, right? Because our board issues them a contract, right? And in order for us to ensure that they uh as part of the district yet separate uh because they have a separate board are working together. Um having some assurityity that we understand and know what's going on there. It's good part of the reason why last year I said, "Well, I'm gonna start just coming to these meetings then so I can also help be a conduit uh from that
024messaging because because it used to be Dave Vitali and then when Jason came on and then I'm like, well, I'm going to add a little layer of support to that. I was the one who suggested maybe for this board to have some understanding just having somebody in the room so we understand and see uh and then we can also say here's how that can align with what this board is doing you know um as a board member you know talking about the things that are important to you as a board uh to that board uh it's just going to be another level of better increased communication because if we're going to have an entity that people see as aligned and represents us. Uh we want to make sure that there's some alignment there too. Uh
025you know vision, goals and strategies. Uh and um part of it was around like assessment and data and how do we keep track of kids and all those kinds of things. And um that was just why I said maybe we should have a liazison position and it seemed to have gotten some some traction from the board at that time. Um, that's why we're trying to to develop the confines of what does that look like. >> I hope that gives you a little history. >> Yeah, that makes a lot more sense. The I I was having trouble figuring out why the role was different from Jason's and and that explains it. Yeah, >> I think it also the a board member listens with different ears. >> Yeah. I mean, just the nature of our positions. Yeah.
026>> Did you have a question? >> Yeah. So, how many people are on that board, please? >> We have seven members. >> Seven me. And what is their tenure of? Is it appointment or election? >> It's really appointments. >> Okay. >> And what's >> So that's a great question. I would have to check. We have two new members uh because our board president has stepped down. So one of our first order of business in October will be to identify a new board uh president. So we have two new members coming. Um, but the the the remaining five, Angel, please correct me if I'm wrong, have been on on that board as long as I've been in the district, which is the start of my third year, but I'd have to check their tenure. >> Go
027ahead, >> H. Who points them? >> Yeah, we we it's really uh kind of word of mouth to be quite honest. Um in the past what we've done is there's some literature that we ask folks to fill out kind of an application process and then in the past what we've done is the board president and I have sat with that person that has expressed interest and talked about the vision of ecampus and endeavor and talked about their vision for those schools and what they see as their role as a board member and then we welcome those organized Please go ahead. >> Um, so what would you say would be the um the nature of the oversight of the board of education over the um charter? >> This board of education. >> Yes. >> The board
028over the charter. >> That's correct. I well I I see the board of education overseeing the charter in a way that is governed by the the contract. I see that different uh to the liaison position, right? The role of the board is to ensure that the contract is being uh executed as outlined and being a good partner. That's different for me than what I think a question about the liaison position. A liaison position I see as being a member of a a team that's talking about learning, teaching, assessment, and being a great partner, but also making sure that those visions, right, um have alignment between their board and our board. And and and that's really a lot what I did with my role when I went to those last year was just saying, "Here's some
029of the things that's important to our board and what we're working on. sounds like you're working along similar lines. Here's some of the things that we can talk about as we're sharing and working through those things. Um, but really, uh, you know, like Jason said, the only oversight that you have is control over the contract and things within the contract, right? Um, and the, uh, review that you do annually with that contract uh, and those discussion points within the contract. >> Yes. So, it's an annual contract. >> No, it's a three-year contract. >> Threeear contract. >> It's been a fiveyear through the summer. The eCampus contract was renewed for three. >> Go ahead, Carl. >> Can we have a copy of that contract? >> Yes, it's been part of uh you know the board meetings,
030but I send one separate. >> Thank you. Yeah, you're welcome. >> Anybody else questions? Oh, go ahead. uh governing board. Each each charter school shall be governed by a governing board that is party to the contract with the authorizing entity. No more than a minority of the governing board's members may be employees of the charter school or employees or officers of the school district in which the charter school is located. The statute seems to indicate that a school board member can be a member of the governing board as well. Just just >> you're reading state statutes, right? >> Correct. >> There are right now four people on that board to one alumni, three endeavored parents and Anthony Moss Luke Moss Brothers Construction is the chair or president. >> He has stepped down. Yeah, he has
031recently stepped down. How many years? >> He's he stepped down. He >> Yeah, he recently stepped out. >> Donated. >> Yes. >> Do you have somebody in mind to fill that spot? >> President. >> Yeah. >> No, I do not. >> Oh, you haven't received any applications yet? >> No. I I think similar to what we navigated at the board level here, we'd be looking for a nomination and then someone to support that and then we'll take votes. That's what I plan to do in October. >> Okay. He stepped down as board president. Is that Did he just step out of the role completely? He's no longer on that board. Is that what you're saying? >> Yes. >> He's going to be, you know, I hate to use this term because he might it might
032sound uh like an attorney might say it, but he's going to be of counsel to >> the like he's he's going to still give >> consulting. >> He's consulting. >> Kind of an ameritus status. >> Yeah. Like but >> but really he wants to not really be much ameritus. Right. Right. But he wants to make sure that it gets transgressed. >> Great. >> How long is the term? >> The term to serve on the board the the board. >> Yeah. No, no. President, the the board itself and the the person that you're looking for nomination. How long is that term? >> Oh, there there are no real terms for the board of governance. Uh are you asking about the leazison as well >> or no? >> I'm I'm trying to get a sense of what
033this board looks like >> and and if somebody wanted to be on the board, that's the first question they would ask. >> Sure. >> What how long is this committ? >> I'm assuming though you would be taking applications to be on the board and then the remaining like all five members would vote on who would be the president, right? >> Yes. Yes. Yes. And then delays on that's a good question too. So how long is delay on? >> Yeah, this is new right this is coming from this summer and so I I would look for the team for guided if that's a a one-year term, threeear term that's up for discussion. >> Members are three years right for your term. >> So a lazison on could be three years. >> Absolutely. >> Continuity is somewhat
034important here. Yeah. I mean, I guess I could see this as a like a once a year during board reorganization, the board uh would would take nominations um or that type of position. >> Yeah, we we've had uh liaison in the past, other boards within our community like the family center and you know, so on um where this board has been asked to have a liaison come sit on one of their boards. Um that's partly where the idea came from was like well I know that you know we we've done that for other places. I think it would be good to do it with this one you know um and would really be a good connection between this board and the function and and the things that they're doing at that board. So >> great
035thank you for coming. thing. >> It's pretty chill. I was gonna say >> um so what mechanisms have we established as a as a board also for review of an annual review of the contract to make sure that um the charters are staying true to their contract, the metrics within their contract. >> And I I guess my approach has been or my thinking has been since our contract conversations is that that would be part of those ed services updates that we would be bringing fresh endeavor and fresh ecampus cont uh data. >> Okay. And that I believe the contract also outlines that throughout the course of this school year that a data dashboard would be established in which we can regularly revisit take a look at that data. >> Okay. So, how do they take
036him? >> Well, given what we know so far, anybody interested in the position? >> If I didn't work between 1 and 230, I would, but >> I'm not on the planning committee. I don't know if it's open to everybody or not. >> I believe it is open to the whole board. >> I think it gives us a good opportunity to see what's going on. Absolutely. >> I've not seen a contract. >> Yeah, I wrote that it's a to you can find it in board docs now, but I'll forward PDF that >> sorry if you sent it in board docs label lab >> ecampus contract I think it was finalized July's board meeting I think. Um but I I I'll send it to Lynn and ask her to forward it to all board members. >> Thank
037you. You're welcome. um desk for both ecampus and uh endeavor. >> Yeah, I can do both. Yeah. >> Is that you're looking for a liaison that does both, right? >> It's one board that covers both charters. Yes. >> Okay. >> Gotcha. Interesting. And that was just part of the the state statutes require state it's a state requirement to have that governance board. We can't just say that. Yeah, never mind. I I read the statute just recently. >> There was a a a number of um meetings that we discussed. Uh the attachment would be on the May 19th meeting. uh which was the original uh contract. Um and let me see if I can find the the approval July 26th minutes I believe have the number one. But if you go into the the um magnifying
038glass search kind of thing and just type in eCampus contract, you can look for um is and you scroll down, you'll see attachments and you'll see you'll find it there. I'll find the endeavor and ecampus contract that's lend to forward to all members board. >> Any interest in the leaison position this time or we can bring it to the full board? some preliminary interest. Okay. I would be >> Yeah, >> that's what I like to see. Ladies fighting for the role. >> Lori, if Lori is sure, >> I No, I I would be I think you're probably a better fit, but I would be interested in supporting you. We're all here in supporting you. >> Jul you you know having been an administrator I feel like you have some unique uh expertise and experience that
039I don't have and I would love to learn about that. Is that fine with that arrangement fine with everybody? >> Yes. >> Oh, please take this role. I think >> well it doesn't look like it's super I mean you mentioned it's October, December, February and April and the reason I was smiling when you said 1:30 2:30 you know look how long our committee meetings go let alone our regular board meetings so this is you know it's not a huge time commitment do you have a problem with me tagging along and learning from >> I believe they're hosting meetings that are over >> you ladies I'll move forward with uh you two and then if there's any questions or anyone else is welcome but we'll we'll start sending some communic case. >> I definitely be interested
040in you know I mean now I know when when they meet and do they meet in uh here basically or >> well we like I mentioned earlier we always say it's face to face or virtual just like a board meeting Angel and I are typically the only ones sitting in here. Sure. >> And I'm in my office, >> but you know, thanks for send me. Visitors are required to bring treats. >> Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. >> Never show up. >> I'll be hiding in the back. >> So, we we'll start putting in some communications and then all are welcome for sure. But appreciate it. That's all I have there. >> All right. So, we have the collection collective commitments. This is the first of two discussions prior to us moving forward with voting tenatively at
041the monthly board meetings um on the collective commitments. Now, at the meeting of the chairs, there was discussion about adding a commitment on there that um about us dressing business casual. So that will be part of this discussion, how everybody feels about that and if they have any feedback on the collective commitments draft and any revisions that you think we should make. >> I only made one hard copy of that. I can make some more if anyone interested. No, the only thing that was added to the discussion, Craig, was what was discussed on Monday about adding >> um business casual. >> Gotcha. >> I do. So, >> I thought that you >> had suggestions. >> Well, if you don't recall them, then we're all good. >> Not really. Other than was there another one that
042we >> No, there was the initial like slideshow where we had the raw data and then this is what came out from last >> Thursday's meeting or Wednesday >> Wednesday. >> Um >> Yep. And this is the draft that was done. And then we're meeting tonight to discuss it further to see if anybody wants to make any adjustments. And then we'll have one more opportunity at the board meeting on the 22nd to make any adjustments if needed and then vote if that these are going to be our collective commitments or not. >> Yeah. Yes. I see. I got it up. Uh, window three just not capitalizing P pausing because it's not >> um we're window three. >> Yeah, >> window three listings. Oh, okay. >> Not capital. >> Okay. I'm fine with these, but I've
043got opinions about the business schedule. >> Okay, let's um open the floor to discussion board. >> Okay. >> Um so, our role as board members is different from teachers. Teachers are professionals that go to a professional office every day like know Dr. work. Uh students are, you know, they are students, but they have to um they benefit from dressing appropriately for their role as students. Um so I I support the dress code that we have and how how the administration has been handling that. Um but uh uh board members are elected from the community from all different roles of life or walks of life. And if you have somebody, you know, we have a lot of meetings and um if you have somebody who, you know, gets done at the machine shop and they need
044to come and come to a meeting as soon as they're done, they should be able to be dressed as appropriately appropriately as they were for work um for the board meeting. And I think that we have to respect those different roles in the community as elected officials and realize that each one of us in these many different facets of life have something to bring to the table here. And I think this that you know forcing the business casual is a bit tonedeaf on that level. So that's what I have to say. >> Um I guess I'll I'll piggy back on that. Um, I agree with Lori in the sentiment that we're supposed to be a reflection of our community, right? I want the community to look at this board and see a reflection of their
045community, not an extension of district administration if we went to a business casual dress. Now, I'm comfortable with, you know, like Julian and David tend to dress more professionally and I support that because there are many people in the community that do dress professionally, but there are also people in the community like myself or Lori that tend to dress down more. And I would like the community to look at this board and see we are diverse and is we're working on doing what's in the best interests of the community. I don't want it to turn into where they look at us and they see like we're an extension of district administration. >> I guess I I guess I I don't disagree with anybody on this. I It's not like I say I don't really feel
046like it's a hill to die on. I think it's one of those things where I mentioned at um at the meeting of the chairs that uh if anything to keep in the back of your mind that people are watching and they and they are expecting us to be professional uh not only in our behaviors but also in our appearance. Um, so to me, I I really don't care what that looks like, but you know, the people that we serve, um, I I don't know, I I approach this type of position with a lot of respect, uh, for the community. And, um, I I choose to to to try to model that behavior and periods as well. But, um, I'm not going to Again, it's not a hill for me to die in. >> Evidently, the
047hill's never been in service. No. >> Can you elaborate, Carl? >> Yes. Because when you're in service, you're you're you wear the uniforms they tell you to wear. And when you become a civilian, as I am now, I appreciate the fact that I can dress any way I like to. And if I offend somebody, I wish they'd tell me immediately. and and I'll correct it amongst the board. >> Well, these are collective commitments. So, well, I I I agree with with um Carl in that, you know, definitely, you know, you don't want to go out of the house looking homeless, but um you know, I I think that it's important to be able to reflect who you are in the community. >> Well, well, I do think we have a measure of Well, I think
048the conversation is reflected of the culture. this conversation right here reflective of our culture. Um, churches are fine with jeans and shirts with, you know, polo shirts or t-shirts or whatever. Um, that may not make me very happy, but okay, I'm glad they're in church, you know. So, I personally don't not sure this should even be in the commitments thing. I I think that it there should be a a level of personal concern that how we appear to the board is appropriate and how we appear to the public is appropriate. That that Carl that may be different for you from me from from Dave or Linda or any of the other board members. Um I do think that we are in a position where a number of people are observing us very closely and making
049judgments about us and I when I'm in those kinds of situations I tend to say okay well what are things that I can do to um let them know I'm serious to let them know I'm in business I'm here I'm here on purpose for a purpose and that I take my work here as seriously as I take my vocational work. And so, um, I think there's lots of room for individual differences and I honestly would not put it in the commitments. I think we just should have a personal standard and the standard if if if a board member A is comfortable with his or her personal standards, we all live with it, you know. And um I think there's some lines that would that should be appropriately drawn, but they don't have to be, you
050know. So, >> can would you mind elaborating on like the lines that you would personally draw? I don't think sweatpants are appropriate for board meeting. Okay. Okay. I think sweatpants are great for the gym, for walk outside, for sports, for different things, but um I I think jeans are fine. I think I think you know khakis are fine and you know cargo pants are fine and those kinds of things, but I think sweatpants and things like that. They just it it conveys an entirely different message to my in my way my way of thinking. So, but if if everybody else think it's appropriate, then okay. You know, >> I'm not gonna die on the hill because it's not going to change. >> No, I'm not going to die on the hill either. But, you know,
051you go to a town meeting and you got a bunch of farmers there. They're in bib overalls and shirts, you know, and they're coming off their their chores. Are we any different than a town board? >> No. But I can't speak to how like the board the town board dresses. Okay, I'll be honest. I have not been to a meeting. >> I understand that. >> So, I can't speak to how like if they have that. >> I've been there, so I know what they dress like and and and a lot of them are farmers and they they come because they got chores to do and they got to get to their meeting. So, they got a pair of Viv Viv Bib overalls on with a with a shirt. you know, not that not that we
052would do that because there's no farmers I think on the board. >> Not me. >> No. Okay. But I mean, >> I think that discussion of you know um what does the role of the board or even uh you know administration have uh in this community and you guys are discussing how to be relatable, right? I I know that in this community um you know me dressing like this and not I've got a shirt on and I can roll down the sleeves for when I'm when I'm having to do business with more business people. But I will tell you that uh the parents that come into my office if I was in a a suit and tie that I would not be relatable to them, right? And so I I I I'm hearing you guys
053talk about wanting to be relatable. The question that is coming to the table is do we want to uh put an indicator out there that says this is how we intend to do it or do we want to just have a conversation about what do we think is relatable and um just move on. You know uh but you know I I appreciate that the board has always let me dress more relatable to those I serve. Right. And I try really hard to to make that I mean if there's days that I'm at the Chamber of Commerce and I'm presenting, you guys have seen me. I I dress up for the part, right? You know, I'll put on a jacket or, you know, whatever or a tie. Um, but if I'm not there, you know, and
054I'm on the dayto-day and I may be having to talk with parents or whatever else. I'll have a polo on or a shirt like this and, you know, whether sleeves or not, I mean, I appreciate that. There's other school districts where you have to wear that three-piece suit every day, right? Because that's what's expected there, >> but that's not this community. >> And and I don't think we should spend more time discussing that. I I I like I'm not on the committee, but I would not add it my recommendation as coordinator would be not added to the commitments. just to give my voice a little bit here. When this came up, this meeting I thought, why are we talking about that particularly? Although Julian and I have the same aspect of thinking about going to
055a meeting, no one dresses better than Jason anyway. >> That's right. Well, I do some >> a friend of mine who moved from a different different place which is a more upscale place in he's living in Watertown now. His take on the community. This is a blueco collar community. >> Oh yeah. >> And so being relatable I think is really important Jared. I think that's what you're talking about. And I don't think we need to I'm I'm with Jill. I don't think we need to even put this in here. We didn't discuss this the other day when we were talking about it. No. >> And uh so I think we can trust each other. Although there will be some who will be looking for how did you dress on the board and how you expect
056us to dress and you're not dressed that way. That has already come up. >> I understand that. But keep >> that in mind. I want you to know that like um even even when we talk with staff like Margaret uh uh had a meeting of um the um support staff uh administration in this building, right? Uh today uh and she talked about dress code, right? and it was her chance to update this building about the new dress code and the topic came up about different levels of dress expected, right? We know that the student dress is different than our our uh staff dress. One of the things is is is they have some laws for free speech that we can govern speech for employees that we're paying, right? Uh and that's been a long-standing law.
057And so, you know, some parts of the the student dress is even a little bit freer than some parts of the dress that we're asking of our staff. Same with you. You are elected officials, right? You are not part of the staff. You are a governing board. And so, they don't have the same application. I do understand uh you know the idea that uh they're looking to you as the the head of this uh organization right the community are um and whatever level um you think uh you should dress for that um is up to you right now I'm hearing you think relatable dress uh should be where it is uh and if you do have a commitment of any kind it could be with that you will uh have a commitment to dress relatable
058to the people you serve. I mean if if you're going to have one or if you don't even need to say that just don't have one. >> I think we should just not put it in there and move on because this is this is a way too much time that we're spending on this whole >> that was my topic. >> No, I thought >> Yeah, this is it's not a not really factor. I don't really think anybody is um is being offensive to the public with their attires. >> I think it was a good conversation though because here's the thing, that's what collective commitments are about. It's about communicating how do we run together? Like how do we view each other? How do we uh make sure that that business happens? And if this was
059a thing that was in the back of even one of your minds about, you know, what public view you as or how uh you relate to policies versus staff relating to policies, all of those conversation points that we had were good conversation points about how we function. And so I I'm glad we did have the conversation. I don't think it was a waste of time at all. >> Okay. So, if nobody has any feedback for the draft, um if maybe everybody could look it over a couple times before the 22nd, that way if they want to make any adjustments to the collective commitments because I believe the timeline is for us to vote at the board meeting if we're going to implement the collective commitments. So, if you have no feedback today, just make sure
060you look it over once or twice before the 22nd so we can make adjustments if needed prior to us voting the commitments in. >> Yeah, please. Then we're going to um Yeah, I know that on Cap the P. Oh, but then we're going to keep primary commitment and then I'm just saying we're removing all windows and we're keeping those subtitles though that we talked about last Wednesday to define each of the commitments. I think that we do plan on keeping the headers that were created like primary commitments, governments, but we'll probably remove the window reference because that was for the raw data. >> But just yeah, it's just >> Yeah, you confirming that >> that makes sense. So just for clarification, I think what you're saying is there would be a primary commitment and then
061the commitment and then it would say governance and then that commitment for example. Is that right? >> Yes, you're correct. Governance, readiness, listening. >> Uh am I correct in assuming we got till 6:30? Roughly >> 6:45. >> Can I can I ask a question about this? Um window number one, we will focus on governance supporting effective management by asking administration for v full documentation and data which the board will use with discernment to craft shared objectives. Can I ask some clarification on what that what what we intend that to mean? Um so please anybody who was there correct me. Um we had combined multiple slides. There was one there was like uh one window that said you know we will not manage we will govern and our goal was during this meeting on Wednesday was
062to condense everything down to less than 10 commitments for the board. So combining those lines, we got the we will focus on governance um from that where we will govern and not manage um and support effective management by asking administration for full documentation to ensure that to avoid us not asking for the appropriate data. Like we need to focus on making sure we ask for the appropriate data for administration to answer our questions because it's much harder for the board and administration if we don't if they don't know what we're going to ask for until the meeting and then they had to postpone until the next month because we didn't initially ask for that data we were looking for until they present it to us. Well, well, to me to me when you when you
063say that it's very that could be a very large sub subjective um set of data. >> Okay. Essentially when you ask that um would could we possibly consider word smithing that in such a way that we by asking administration uh for um all meaningful data for which the board will use discernment and craft a share shared objectives I mean because what is what is full full data >> but now we're moving into discern what the board finds as needing. >> I think that's going to happen anyway because when you when you ask the administration a full full documentation and data um it's going to be nearly impossible for them to provide every article of information that you might be seeking. you think it will be difficult for administration to provide us the data that we're
064seeking >> because I don't think that I don't have a problem I don't think it will be a problem for them to collect the data we're seeking if we're clear in the delivery of what we're looking >> well I I kind of wonder if if by that statement you might be asking the administration to to read your mind you know because that data is so >> that was from my just from my notes >> and um what what I was going for is that you know in in some of the meetings that we've had we're asked to make a decision and we're given a certain amount of information >> and then we start asking questions and pulling threads and pretty soon we're like oh we're missing a piece of information oh we're missing another piece
065of information and the commitment was to make sure we have all pertinent information now Um >> I I think the words that you just said there >> are very valuable all pertinent information >> that work. >> Well, I think the emphasis was on asking. >> Yeah. >> It wasn't demanding, it was asking. The onus was on us. >> Yeah. >> Um we tried to keep in mind as we worked on this that this is what we were committing to. >> Right. Exactly. that we would commit to asking for >> for full pertinent um because I agree with Lori. I we've been I've been in already not quite three months on the board and we I've been through several meetings where and they weren't bombs but information came up late in a discussion almost as we
066were ready to have a decision made and a piece of information came out that nobody was aware of. And so um the way we put the reason we put that in there I think was we made sure we used the word ask so that we were the responsible entity for getting the information we we want. We're asking administration for full documentation and we have to think is the right questions to ask sometimes. >> Well, what we intend to be full whatever we need to be full >> because because what they think is is is pertinent or full or be different than what we think is >> but it's our commitment. >> Right. And I'm happy to adjust the wording by all means. Correct. >> I just don't know if that >> you just asked for
067clarification. >> Yeah. No. And and I just I just don't know if that puts our administration in an untenable situation. provide information. >> Well, I mean here here's here's how I read it. I I read it that um one that this group uh is saying we're going to we're going to really strive to uh work on governance, right? and that um we are going to do that by asking administration for everything that we need to do that right and in doing that that'll keep us away from wanting to get into management activities because we will be fully informed we will have everything that we need to make decisions and we can go forth and conquer that's how I read it that's that's what I was reading your commitment to each other um and also to
068us as administrators ask right like We we're is that what what you meant by that? That's how I read. >> That is exactly what we meant. >> Okay. As long as we're on the same page on what that means. >> But if Yeah, as far as I know, we are. But if you want to adjust some like some wording, Craig, I'm open to like this is what this discussion is for to make sure everybody is comfortable. Just just so you know I the reason I ask is because you're asking me also as board president then to say hey this is our collected commitments you know based on this and I have to go back to administration and say you know we have the pertinent information for the board to be able to go forward and
069make decisions you know so any more clarification that you can provide I think is going to be helpful for for me to be successful in that role too. So >> I just want to reiterate though, Craig, what we said in there is that the board will take the burden of responsibility to clarify what we will ask the administration for. And then we clarified it in my mind even further, modified it by saying we're going to use that that data with discernment to to make decisions, you know, and to do our governance. I it it it was we tried um assiduously to stay away from >> nice word like >> to stay away from demanding anything of administration because this is these are our commitments about how we will operate and so that's why it was
070structured from the viewpoint of of a board member or board members collectively to to say this is what we will do we'll ask for the information we want. Now, I think what you're afraid may happen is and and I hope it doesn't, but a question comes up and says, "Jason, would you please give us full documentation related to X, Y, and Z?" >> And go, "What's full documentation mean to you?" >> Yes. >> No, because what would happen is Jason would come to me, right? And I would be like, "Hey, thank you for getting me in the loop. Um, board member XYZ, when you said full documentation, what are you actually looking for so that we can be helpful? >> Well, I I'm hoping it doesn't become that kind of a situation. >> So, like
071would you feel more comfortable if we switched the verbiage where it was like we will focus on governance supporting effective management by asking administrating administration for pertinent documentation and data which the board will use with discernment to craft shared objectives. You just want to remove full to imply. >> No, I'm just asking. >> I like I like the edit. I like the edit that you have. And that makes sense. >> I like pertinent. You know, I think it's it's a a better descriptor than full. Right. >> Are we It still gives the board the opportunity to ask for more. >> Exactly. Are we okay with all pertinent >> because that clarifies what exactly how pertinent >> it is. >> Well, I didn't say all pertinent. Do you want it? So, right now it reads we
072will focus on governance supporting effective management by asking administration for full documentation etc. We can change it to we will focus on governance supporting effective management by asking administration for pertinent documentation etc. or we will focus on governance supporting effective management by asking administration for all pertinent documentation. Do you want to add the all Linda? >> No. Because if the pertinent information comes back then we have the option to ask for more. All indicates limitation that what they gave us was all. >> If you look at spellch check when you do something like that they'll take the all away. >> They will because pertinent is pertinent >> pertinent includes everything you need which is all >> right is is objective. >> So we may get information that we then have to turn around and say
073we need more pertinent. >> True. True. And that and that's fine because at that time you might need more pertinent information. >> Well, I hope it would be fine because we need that on kind of ongoing kind of dialogue to make sure have what we need. >> Okay. Which one is that? >> Window one and four and two. 42. >> Jason, I'm probably just going to shoot you a little email for my reference so I can because Sam has the master document. >> Yep. I'm keeping the notes as well. >> Okay. Perfect. So by asking administration for pertinent documentation, is that right? >> Yes. It looks like window one and four-2 governance. That's the one that needs to be adjusted to remove full to pertinent. >> Canot, >> please. >> Are we done with Are
074we done with that topic? Because I have another uh question that I had. Uh and and I the reason it speaks out to me is one I I was one of the people who put this on, but there was a couple of them that uh were on the window. Um but also it relates to um I think a large pillar of ours and that's the all-in team or working as a team. Where is that reflected in here? Where was that captured to say um teamwork is important to us? >> I use that word I use that word some too. And I use a team or two. >> Yeah. I mean teamwork was on a number of different windows uh or or things or working as a team and and it's one of our pillars in
075our strategic plan. I was just wondering where that may have shown up through here. I >> think it comes up in window four 6 2 7 and 9. But the respectful debate but >> I that's what I was going to say as well Julian. I don't think we've used the word team, but if we'd like to add a a commitment that specifically states team, I I'm open to it. Um, >> go ahead. >> I have a problem with that, too. Oh, >> okay. Go ahead. So, so we are we have a very diverse board contrary to popular belief and um I think the the role again is different from from the from the administration and the staff in that um we we have different ideas and different uh goals at and issues that our constituents
076have have brought to us and and part of you know who we are as elected officials. Um I don't see us as a team in that sense. Now we we certainly work well together. Um but I don't think team is an appropriate word for this. I think uh where it most lands um generally with boards is usually you see it in a statement that says um once a decision is made by the board we will support it as a team. >> Yeah. >> Or something like that. >> That was another I first it says we will disagree with civility and dignity acknowledging board decisions as official action. >> That was it. Well, maybe you could say acknowledging as a team official board as or board decisions as official actions. >> Well, the interesting thing about
077that one was it was meant to be very individualized because the discussion was that the board could come to a decision that I individually do not agree with, but we are making the commitment that as a board member, we will recognize that decision as official final board action. So, that was not intended. That's that's different than and and I and I'm trying to sus this out a little bit and and it's really up to you guys as a board as to how you want to do it. If I if I were to say as a member of the board, let's say I was a board member, not Jared, superintendent, who serves the board, right? I and if the board made a decision um to do something and I was in the community saying the official
078decision of the board is this, but I want you to know I continue not to support that. >> We want you to have the right to do that. >> Okay. That's what because then I you know um it it does not conform to what I just heard you say about um that piece. >> Why not? I got >> like for example like my children and I have discussed >> the dress code policy at nauseium okay >> and my son will come up to me and ask me how do you feel about such and such how do you feel about such and such and I say to my son it doesn't matter how I feel right >> okay I see >> my board has made the has I support my board at the end of the
079day I can have dissenting opinions, but they're not relevant as it comes to decisions that my board makes and I will support my board. >> Right. That's that sounds like a team dis a team explanation. The way I said it was not a team explanation. It was a yes, I know the board decided that, but I continue not to support it. >> Well, what do you mean by support? >> I think that you should have a right to do that. Like if we as a board, let's say we vote, it's a five4 split. >> Yes. >> Those four individuals that did not agree with the motion that the board took should be able to say, I support my board and the decisions that they've made. >> That's different. >> But I I voted against that.
080I personally do not support that, but I will support my board, >> right? Like they should be able to clarify. I do not want any member of the board to feel feel like they are hindered from speaking how they their opinions. I don't think that we should sound >> you're getting exactly at what I'm aiming at because if if in what I said was the end of it, that's not as a team, right? If I would have said, listen, the board's direction was this, right? And I still don't support that, but I support their decision. That's team. If I don't say but I support their decision, right? Then I am not working as a team. I am saying that I I know we made the the board made the decision but I didn't want anything
081to do with it and I still don't support it. >> I don't I think the word support is not I think I think I don't agree with that. I would if I were in that decision I think or in that situation I think what I would say is you know the board voted and the decision is made. I may disagree personally with it but this is what the board has decided and I respect that decision as a >> yes as a team right I >> but I but I would stay away from the word support. Sure, respect. But >> vote for it. >> But but what I'm saying is is um without the idea that um there is a team in that, right? That you respect the others who were in the majority in that
082decision even if you weren't is an important concept that I'm trying to talk about here. Right. I guess I I need some clarification. How uh bullet one under window four comma 6-2 comma 7 and 9 respectful to debate does not clearly indicate that we will be civil and treat each other with dignity and acknowledge official board decisions. does not signal to the board that while we might disagree, we will do so respectfully and you know state official actions as such. I guess I would like to know if any please I I open to hear well I think go ahead. When I when I hear the word team, I right away put it in my term it would be collective and it's the word team means collective. It's it's a matter of a number of people
083and it takes out the individualism of the word and that's that's what we were trying to separate I think. I think Carl's right in that first little point. We were trying to make sure that and and I don't remember who brought it up. I didn't, but somebody did that we should make sure that people know they have the right to publicly say, you know, the board took this action. I voted against it, but I do respect the decision of the board. I think what Jared is saying is that he would like to see some some wording within these commitments that indicates that we are working >> collectively, collaboratively. And he uses the word team because that's the that's the buzz word today. You don't talk about your staff. You you talk about your team because
084that implies that everybody's wearing the same uniform. We're going in the same direction. We're all going towards the same goals, you know, we're representing the same cause. Um because people like Pearl and I put that into a sports, >> right? You know, >> got a big Packer game tomorrow. Everybody's going to be wearing the same colors. So, >> I'm going to be in green and gold. >> So, but but I think that's why he's looking for something actually probably in addition to what we have. >> Okay. >> Yeah. I I I remember the discussion on this and I remember it team did not want to be used. >> We had a lot of discussion on that. >> We did we did uh stakeholders did not want to be used >> right away from that which
085frankly I wanted why was so bad about that but we came to this wording anyway. Um, so and what Jared's saying is we stick team in there somewhere and um, uh, I understand the team approach. We understand it. I think you said it well, Carl, and you well, so I don't have a problem with that. Um, I can't remember now why team was a bad word. What What if we go to the third bullet point? I'm just trying this on for size. Okay. >> On the third bullet point under that same one window, Tammy, we acknowledge that good team decisions come from thorough and robive decisions. >> Are you okay with collective versus team? >> I I I was just putting it out there because it was part of um a number of people what
086people said and it didn't it didn't show up here anywhere that I could identify. I'm just gonna tell you, Jude, you would have enjoyed the discussion. >> I'm sorry I couldn't be there. Um and and when you can't when you can't be at a subcommittee meeting, you ask it at the committee. And if you can't be at the committee meeting, you ask it at the board meeting. Right? That's how it works. So, I'm just asking the question team didn't come up. I was wondering why because it's it is one of our pillars in our strategic plan. It was on a lot of those documents. Um and I don't see it anywhere in this document. And I was just wondering why. You guys can tell me we just don't care. We don't want it. And I'll
087be like this your collective commitments. I was just asking a question. >> Not be okay with collective. I would be okay with collaborative, but I think we have that in there. >> Yeah, that's actually our primary commitment is collaborating with educators to improve student achievement for academic excellence will be this board's paramount priority. >> But what happens if we say collaborating as a team with educators? >> I don't know. I'm looking for some middle ground here that doesn't doesn't do violence to what we've done, you know. Um, I'm not okay with that. Okay. Well, my mind somebody else can try that. >> So, Lori, you're not a team member. >> I'm not a team member as far as the sport is concerned. >> Very good. I'm glad to hear that. >> I'm a team player,
088but this is not my team. >> Very Sorry. >> Nice. Interesting. >> Okay. So then we'll think about that and there will be further discussion on the 22nd for possible solutions. Right? Anybody else have any feedback they want to >> Nope. Uh this is just a grammatical thing on that same bullet point we've just been talking about under first bullet point under Windows 4 6-2 etc. Could we add an S on action? I think it I think because it's multiple decision decisional actions action actions >> interesting discussion >> I just saw a discrepancy between the last thing I heard and talked about and what this ended up so I thought I'd ask the question >> no good I think we've been assiduous enough >> interesting. You need anything else? >> I don't I'm seeing if
089you guys need any anything else. Otherwise, I think that we'd be if nobody does, then we'd be moving to the action items section of the meeting. I do have a note to potentially have um alterations to discuss on the 22nd. >> I have eight action items that recorded from tonight. >> Okay. I can um list them. They're they're not in order because I I missed one earlier, I believe. So, I have a next planning committee agenda that will talk more about the uh logistics and finer details of the community engagement events. >> Okay. >> Um I'll try to put them in order. Next planning committee agenda will also bring back uh that board of ed communications piece that we talked about that will come from the September 16th meeting. So we'll bring whatever comes from
090that to this to this committee. Uh I will work with Lyn to make sure the board that board that 16th meeting the board communication meeting gets posted. Um, I will send a copy of the eCampus and endeavor contracts to Lynn and just ask her to share with all board members. We'll begin to share with Joane and Lori Endeavor and eCampus board of governance literature to keep you and I have some we will make some edits. I have seven, not eight. The next one I wrote is that we'll make revisions to the collective commitments. I have three revisions. One is we're going to change full to pertinent. We're going to uncapize. I don't know if that's a word, but uncalize the P and we're going to put S on action. And then we're going to place
091these collective commitments on the September board agenda. Is that for strategic discussion? just for planning purposes. >> I think it should be because that's the second opportunity for any adjustments to be made prior to the board voting today. >> Okay. And I believe it's decap don. >> Yes. Good. Thank you. >> I also put on my notes here. On >> I just made something up. Sounds so bad. >> It's actually lower case. >> We're going to make it lower case. >> We're going to lowerase it. >> Okay. Um the past action items. Um I think we're through most of it because I believe that Jared, you've worked with CISA6, right, for the Daves process to come in. >> Yes. Okay. >> Yes. Uh well, Jason and I have worked Jason has has taken the lead
092on um at least getting some information for the teacher part. Um and uh I got some information from Mr. Slender. Right. I'm working with uh Mr. um ones dates. >> Okay. >> Yeah, I think I'll totally >> Yeah, I think so. >> Take care of him. >> Is there any future agenda items we any suggestions that we should add to the planning? Ah, yes. Um, securing um somebody for um Robert's rules. Um >> Oh, yeah. >> We we I don't know if we're going to have that before then or not, but um you know, the action item that we should probably add is that um that will be completed. Um I don't know if you want me to take the lead on, you want to take the lead on it, Sam, whoever. Um, I did
093contact a couple of different groups today. >> Okay. >> Um, that were were sent to me. Uh, so I hope to have something by the end of the week for us to chew on, but >> Okay. >> I made an attempt to reach out to someone to >> I did as well. >> I know. Yeah, I I saw that. I saw I saw your email and said, "Hey, I own this thing." But >> well, no, I also reached out to some legislators. Okay. in the state legislature to see if they have any contacts for potential people that could come in and present to the board for that. >> So, I think we should just add it as an action item that we need to finalize that. >> Okay. >> And maybe schedule a subcommittee meeting
094to go over uh information that was pulled by each of us >> just to you know have a quick maybe even virtual meeting that says hey here's what we found here's what we found and so on. >> Okay. Just for clarification, is the action item to secure multiple quotes or is it to secure a vendor? >> I think it's uh we have to secure information. It might it might be quotes, it might not be quotes. I mean, if there's no cost and we know one of the options that you brought up was a kind of a no cost option, but >> that's right. I mean, >> but I I think it's just we I think we're back we're stepping back to let's gather information, right? I mean, and then we'll go from there. >> Yeah,
095please. Um, I saw that the Robert's rules of orders idea for professional development was out there. You know, Robert's rules of orders can be very very complex. >> Correct. Correct. But there is a simplified version of Robert's Razor order and I would I would encourage us to whoever we bring in that they at least know about it and can present it because >> that's what we're aiming for. Yeah. Just Yeah. Whenever there's a group of under 20, right? Either the the simplified version is better. >> Exactly. So, um but but we're we want to start >> I got the book. >> Yeah. We want to start there. uh some somewhere in there to to say how can we um move things through meetings and and everything else >> cuz like so we did secure Dave
096Anderson who used to work at the capital as the lead parliamentarian but unfortunately he passed away unexpectedly did >> um and then uh we did also make a contact when we went to uh through uh school board of academic excellence. Um the quote was a bit high and at one point um the school board of academic excellence was considering um gifting the district the cost for that professional development because they connected them with that person. But we just found out yesterday that that has fallen through. So now we're trying to get some quotes together for the committee to make a decision with what vendor we should go with to get that training. That's where we're at. >> Sure. >> I have contact >> if you if you want. You can just send it to me
097and I I can call and follow up. I mean, we all don't need to be chasing down. I I'll be happy to make any connections or calls. >> It's somebody who arranged the um Groversville border seminar that I went to. So I have to find out who it is from. >> Okay, wonderful. Once find out, let me know and I'll I'll make you um you know I there's a person who uh teaches the course uh from Texas. It's an online course uh for um University Extension. Uh that name was forwarded to me. Um, obviously WSB does this work, but I don't know how much they charge. So, I'm following up on like three different leads. Um, so if if you have that, I will follow up on that with you and I'll just bring any
098information I have uh together and we'll discuss which is which is the best and why. Okay, but >> please, Dan, >> can I ask you about uh number nine on our past action item? >> Yes, let's do it. Okay, >> let me pull it up. I did. Yes. So that has been discussed. Uh Margaret and Jared and I discussed it in our planning meeting for HR. So that will be coming up this month because we will be discussing the school calendar. >> Yeah. So, um, part of that discussion will be the request for looking into the fiscal analysis as well as any other potential adjustments the board might want to see to the calendar so that Margaret can bring that to us and we can have um the discussion, right? Yeah. Have the 2728 calendar
099approved by because there's a cut off like it has to be approved by >> end of December. >> Uh, by the end of December. So, it is Yep. We are the balls rolling. All right, good. Thanks. >> That is if we want to make any type of amendments to the already approved calendar. >> No, no, no. This would be for the 2728 calendar. >> Okay. Yeah. I mean, you can always make amendments to a standing calendar that's been approved. >> Okay. >> Right. Um that's a little um easier and shorter discussion than to talk about major changes that would occur in any calendar. And sometimes sometimes it is a major change even though it's something we have to implement, right? like um I if uh something happened and and we needed to uh close a
100building down. >> Yeah. >> Right. Um we could we could ask the DPI for an emergency to uh change our calendar and then just change like next year's start calendar because something let's say god forbid a tornado hit the gymnasium at Webster, right? >> Uh and and we needed to do some quick construction over the summer, but it was going to go into uh September, halfway through September. So, we wanted to change our start date later. That's right. You can always do those kinds of things. Um, but what we're talking about is like a larger uh maybe uh different changes that may u also be fiscally beneficial or other things. >> Okay. >> Right. Those would come in the next calendar up for discussion. Yeah. >> The next one is 2728. >> During the meeting,
101Jared used an example that at one time the board had the district looked into if we did a whole year calendar, right? like where there isn't a summer invitation, but it's, you know, like six weeks on, three weeks off, like a full year calendar. >> Yeah. And they presented what that would look like, >> you know. So there there's lot lot of different options over the years that um the teachers have, you know, uh worked with the committee uh to research and bring information back to the board. That would be one option that you guys would ask for. What would that look like? How would we structure it? What would the cost savings be? All that would be part of that information. >> You like that? >> So, any other questions, guys, about any other
102past action items or future agenda items? Okay, I'm going to take that as a no. >> That is a no. >> So, the meeting's adjourned at 6:32 p.m. >> So, we got another meeting in about 15 minutes. Uh, anybody who was interested in uh taking a a dinner break, um, we've got that set up in