08/12/2024 Planning Committee Meeting

001it's the her own home so the lovely couple that we have go all right it is 5:30 I called this planning committee meeting for order um two items on the agenda today isn't there two yeah one agenda itema two items to disc pieces of information under that agenda so I'm gonna hand that to you sure yeah uh we have two things first we have a strategic planning update um this is where you're going to see uh the first draft that the Donovan group put together culminating all those experiences that uh they were in charge of uh through phases one two and three of our R RFP um the second topic will be to discuss um uh stages four and five of the RFP um that was not previously bid out um at least for a

002final number uh they gave us an indication of what that would look like uh back uh during the RFP planning we did not engage in sections four or five but we should have some discussions about if we want to continue with um that moving forward with the RFP process so with that I'll kick it off to uh Jason and Lori to give us an update from uh Donovan group and uh the internal team sure thank I can just uh kick us off cou of things one is we always want to start with gratitude so I want to thank all the folks that are us inquit whether it's from focus groups the community work group the internal group The Board of Education certainly U but a process and I think um the feedback we received is

003the facilitation of this process is is well received so thank you to everyone um I also think that we never think about the why too too often and so the the strategic planning uh strategic plan and the why of that is really twofold one is to reestablish our Collective why like what is the why of our school district and how it fits into the work in classroom at the building District level and Community level so it's a reestablishment of our why and secondly it is really the foundation of continuous Improvement we want to use our strategic plan in the future be really driven by students and data informed and so building that culture with those two pieces and by the next thing I wrote down is that we're still on track the donov group put

004together a road map of where we should be and we remain on track on that road map and um today I'm going to turn this over to Lori really quickly here she's going to give us some updates we're really looking for your feedback from the planning committee uh that will be used uh to to revise the plan if there is a need for revision and then we bring that to the full board next Monday and really put Dr Burke in a position to share some of these pieces with the entire staff on August 27 and that is the timeline that we created several months ago and we're still still in track so that's great I'd like to turn over Lori and thank Lori again for her work her facilitation process and thank you Lori and

005I just welcome you to take it over here from here thank you sounds good thank you Jason and thank you everybody I'm just again continuously grateful for the opportunity to be a part of your your fun team and committed team there and as Jason indicated this is an opportunity for you all to get a first glimpse of how this plan has come together and it's an opportunity for you to give us feedback if you think that there's an opportunity here to change anything yet or to adjust so with that I do have a organizing slide deck to kind of walk us through and as Jason indicated we've used what you're seeing like the first page of here is our road map that we've used to facilitate this entire process members of your internal team there

006have a copy of this road map um this is an active link here but you'll see that as we've worked our way through our phases of the whole process here we've also linked in all the things that have been produced and have been a deliverable for the district to use moving forward so let's talk about the main components and how they've come together and first we'll start with the mission statement and again the mission statement is our why and as Jason indicate it's our Collective why we've brought your your Representative members of the community together everybody who wanted to be a part of that group had an opportunity to share their voice and we worked to answer these three questions what do we do whom do we serve and how do we serve them and

007we worked through this process with each meeting we had a total of four planning work group meetings and at our last meeting we we ended up sharing these three drafts based on a previous work so three separate mission statements and we also lined it up next to your your current mission statement and there are a lot of similarities between all three and we asked we asked tables at our last planning session to tell us which one of these they preferred and if they wanted to make any adjustments they could and Jared was gracious to walk around and let each team uh share their statement as he held it up what we were able to do is take all of those statements and synthesize them by answering those three questions what do we do who do

008we serve and how so the what we do unanimously or close to unanimously was we serve definitely unanimously was the who was all students so we serve all students where there was maybe the most variance was how and yet we had a lot of interrater reliability around what you see here so in the end we believe that this is your new mission statement based on all that work and just for for fun I'm going to read it we serve all students by providing educational opportunities that Foster a lifelong love of learning so when you see this we want you to to understand our why we think that when we share this out to members of our community to our staff to our students we want people to see know hear feel that this is what

009we are all about here at Watertown Unified School District and I should say I'm going to walk through all of these and then we'll stop and give you an opportunity to to kibit in here and give me some some feedback connected to our our mission is our vision statement where do we want to go so if we're successful with our why our mission we'll we'll be able to achieve our vision and we asked your stakeholders to look at the future through the lens of three different words the three words that we've used to guide us through this entire process that reflects Water Town it's tradition Innovation and transformation and So based on previous work of the Planning Group this is what came out of when we when we synthesize all of their feedback about the

010future when we think of tradition what we got was valuing diversity and tradition we Inspire Pride through strong Community involvement supporting students and families when we ask them to think about Innovation what we got synthesized was Innovative student centered education with Community collaboration cre exploration emotional support and advanced technology integration and then you can see here then what came for transformation which is really a just inclusive Vibrant Community that um through emotional support collaboration and robust parent and student engagement we can achieve that what we did then is we took this this work from the group previously and we synthesized into this statement here and then we brought this statement to the work group at the last meeting and we made some adjustments to it and we are leading this with tradition Innovation transformation and

011actually let me just see yep that's right so this is what we brought to your team then at the last meeting we want to stick with tradition Innovation transfer information is our lenses but then you can see this is the statement pulled together after feedback from the group this is what I want to show you um we we think this is your new vision statement we thought it was important to keep this word diversity because we got that feedback from a large number of those who participated we recognized that this could be a word that people get hung up on so we did go through an exercise of asking those who participated what their definition is for diversity and what they can accept as diversity and that can be a part of our our materials

012moving forward but we think that you know you have a diverse population that you all serve so valuing that in our tradition um we added in the word school here we Inspire school pride through strong Community involvement and Innovative student C education and so we dropped this this tagline then at the bottom of this because as you read through it it has a nice flow right this is our tradition we're innovating and ultimately we're Transforming Our student centered education then we focused on our core values and uh we asked we asked individuals to do an activity where they could share with us their top Three core values that they hold for the students of Watertown Unified School District and then we also ask them to share with us their top core value and to Define

013that core value for us and when we shared this activity with your participants we asked them to not only think about core values that we want to instill in our students but also that values that should be reflected in the adults uh that are working with our students and so the top five core values that Rose to the top here you can see on the left the one that we kind of had to to work with a little bit is perseverance is we had a lot of feedback that people wanted um as a value to like essentially strive for academic Excellence um which was more of an outcome than a value um so in in order to achieve academic Excellence we kind of talked about that at the last meeting about what does that what

014does that really mean in terms of values that we hold for our students so we talked about maybe grit perseverance ultimately it's it's making sure that you there's a you're sticking with it right we want to strive have high expectations for ourselves and so I think this is where we landed um and then you can see the definitions here that that came from those members that had identified these values as the top values and then we have our priorities so those priorities that will guide our decision making move moving forward for that continuous Improvement as Jason noted and so this this is a little challenging to explain so bear with me then this is Tiny and it's okay if you can't see it all I just want to explain that what how we got to

015our top priorities is we asked all of the members of those planning teams in their groups to to list out for us what they think are priorities for us moving forward in the Watertown Unified School District and based on that then we did a voting exercise where we gave individuals dots to vote on what they believe are their top priorities and so everything you see here was typed up from those lists and then I put them in categories so the categories are across the top um just try to naturally group them based on what made sense for example that that top left one is inspired academic excellence and student growth which matches previous work in the district under pillars and you can see that you know the top vote getter if you will was inclusivity

016and acceptance and diversity and that's why it's so important that that word diversity stays in that vision statement um you can see that as you move down um you you have a contingency of individuals in this in this group that really feel strongly that no politics or diversity Equity inclusion should be in classrooms you can see there's a pretty big gap though between them um and then we have Career and Technical education so you can you can maybe start to see how things are group together as you look across the categories all in team is really about your Educators and your staff the connecting as a community is about Community engagement Communications marketing the intentional resource allocation is about the operations right making sure we have uh necessary funds uh appropriately addressing Financial constraints looking

017at innov innovative ways that we could and be fiscally responsible and the last one is innovative facilities in use uh so this is kind of how they shook out we brought this back to the Planning Group at the last meeting we asked them to review this and give us any additional feedback and we asked them to uh to score or vote this time we did it with markers and like little note takers to make sure that we didn't have uh Little Dot stealing going on um and what we ended up with is sticking with those five so if we pull everything together oh no that was very disappointing hold on I'm sorry um I was like ready to do the big reveal and there is nothing there let me just pull it up really quick

018for you all not sure why that happened but sometimes things get lost in translation so I'm going to just go pull it from my system here quick but in the end we're pulling it all together to show you how this looks from a design element and I'm going to pause stop talking and let you all give me feedback on everything you've heard thus far and before I reveal it I guess um what I'll share is that we uh we worked on this as a as an internal team I did did meet with your your leaders um just last week and I gave them a preview of this okay let me see if I can share this so um I hope that you can is it is it okay can you see it all right y

019okay so you have to kind of bear with me here right like design is really important in terms of presenting the Strategic plan to your audiences moving forward so let me just kind of break down the design but we talked about it as an internal team and we made some tweaks based on what we what we talked about as a team and I still think there's more design that we can do but I wanted to give you a general sense of how this comes together noting that the design is not the hard work that is coming next right with the with the implementation of the plan but to see how it all comes together what we did is we kept that lens on tradition Innovation and transformation so on the left hand side you see

020actual photos um thanks to Melissa lamp there um some real real photos from Watertown that speaks to the traditions of Watertown like people outside of Watertown understand that the community of Watertown was a a front runner right and starting with um School houses and pulling students together for education so I love that photo there you have a photo there from the 80s as well of schools you know school spirit and in that column we kept the core values in the middle it's intended to be in today's colors right Innovation ultimately we would like to have a photo here that shows um something that's going on in your schools that shows Innovation right now this is a great placeholder photo and and it it does just happen to work well with that young young man's blue

021shirt but then also on the very right hand side you'll see that we put some some of your uh school color overlays to show it's the future it's coming and yet we're using photos of your kiddos there to show so um you know as we transform now a big conversation that occurred throughout our planning process was this desire to be a leader in Career and Technical education and it I would love to see that reflected with photos and so we talked about that as a team about how can we you know maybe even carry the theme of that across all three lenses but you'll see the priority areas are listed there at the bottom and I think it was Margaret who really liked the idea of having the little the little um flame and and

022uh and and the the is that supposed to be a flying geese um with your your brand there as bullets and then we have our mission and vision on the right hand side and the fonts change the fonts change from left to right based on tradition Innovation and transformation so that's kind of how it all comes together and I'm going to share my my PowerPoint again or my slide deck they're called These Days um I could get there and so the last the last thing I'll share is that as we're working with your internal team here here we are doing the hard work next like now we take these priority areas and we start to put into place real defined like smart goals strategies to accomplish those goals that are aligned to those priorities and

023set the indicators of success how we will measure success so some work that we started to do just last week is taking this template that you see here where we're writing across the top top goals for our students performance whether that's performance in Reading um or literacy writing uh math math performance or math literacy uhu other student strategic indicators could be attendance Behavior graduation Workforce certifications um sometimes I'll see school districts focus on um like the number of dual enrollment coursework work that kids participate in it really depends on the context of the district and this is work I'm helping your team facilitate but you'll see here on the left hand side we have our priority areas that allow us then to based on like let's say this top left box is focusing on reading

024and how we'll measure it just for the 20 24 25 school year these are the strategies that we'll deploy to have success with that goal under the frame of each of our priority areas so that's how that next next step goes so before I I go on I'm going to stop here and I want to go back to each of the components and let you all weigh in on um what you so let's start with the mission statement and just let you react to What you see here and let us know if you have any feedback you'd like to share right anything from let's start with committee members questions and then we'll open it up to all Lori what is the big goal of having a new mission and vision statement it's a great question

025it's it's not so essential to have like it's not a goal to have a new one I think the goal is to make sure that your mission statement truly captures what you all are about but wouldn't you say the big goal is to get a referend of past um that could be a potential um goal but it it's when we think about our mission statement our mission statement is about our why like why our why most always certainly with with school systems is our students and so what it is that we we do with our students how do we how do we support them and accomplish for them what they need moving forward a referendum would be in my opinion more of a strategy to meet a goal and and that would be placed under

026one of your priority areas and right now in your in your draft of the plan where that would fall where that would fall I'm sorry I can't like show is the Innovative facilities in use and I think that's where it falls I think it also falls potentially under the intentional resource allocation and from an engagement perspective with your community if you if you decide that you would like to put a solution or a couple Solutions out there for your community then that's going to fall under connecting as a community and you might want to have some goals there related to referendum well I bring that up because uh maybe you were reading the room correctly when we were in the library but I don't think you're reading Community correctly and using words like diversity transformation

027uh those are hot button words for a lot of people in the community and I mentioned referendum because I've said it several times they're not going to vote in favor of a referendum if you're going to include diversity and transformation um and there's a few other words that we have in the vision statement as well that I would object to and I know a lot of other people would so okay so that that's good feedback so can we take it one one piece at a time is there anything that concerns you about the mission statement first anything that you think is problematic from a language piece anybody have any thoughts on that um board Sam uh I think it would be more accurate to say that we serve District students because we are serving students

028in our district not students in other districts or that are not within the district in okay so not not entirely true um I brought up the same discussion Point um we do have international students in our E Campus um or uh we have students who are open and rolling to us from other places and truly we serve pario students uh there's many pario students we help serve and and so that that that's why that's why we settled on all so those the first two categories the eCampus and the international students are they enrolled in our district program yes our district E Campus program and then the parochial students who live in town are living within the district right they're living within the district I don't know that for sure uh I I believe that there

029are some parochial students who live outside of our district boundaries who attend a pario school in town but may get services so I couldn't rule that out that would still be within balance of the district even if they're going to the school they may be outside of it but they're still attending school within the bance of the district same thing with open enrollment I just want to make sure that we're um not um accident having people feel like they don't belong if they are attending in some way shape or form gota you think students are going to read a statement that says we serve District students and feel left out if if they attend a parochial school or if they're International students who we serve I I mean maybe about our we serve our students

030our students students and I would like to see that word Foster change to encourage the idea of foster U brings to mind foster children who are taken from their families and I don't want any so you're thinking a different word because that might be a triggering word Foster yeah yeah encourage how about promote promote is even better I think uh I I I do sort of feel like this misses the mark a little bit in the sense that um we providing you know by providing educational opportunities and and our previous mission statement mentioned that we are to engage all students in rigorous and relevant learning to maximize their unique talents abilities prepare them for challenges of the future that speaks very specifically to a higher standard of you know providing an educational opportunity um and

031and I I feel like this like sells ourselves ourselves short on that um academic achievement being a pretty strong Focus that we should having as a school district and what ises by providing educational opportunities mean does that mean we just provide bowling I know is it is basket weaving those are all educational opportunities do we provide bowling CL I mean we've done basket week in AR sure so we those as educational but if we're going to use this as a mission statement to be kind of our guiding line for for where we want to go as a district should we be a little bit more High reaching than this that's my question I'm going to jump in I had a similar thought on that same line and then I struggled with the fact that we

032just had hundreds of community stakeholders put voice into this so my internal struggle was is we as a committee and then board members adding to that do we undo redo the work the hours worth of work that our community just put for and I don't have an answer to that I'm just sharing them I feel the same way you know I went back on our previous statement many times that rigorous and relevant you know and that engaging piece and when I first started teaching it was provide a lifelong love of learning that's what everybody wants that's what everybody needs but yeah I don't I don't know how to blend that without taking away we've heard so many times from our public we we've given you a voice we've got a voice okay I want to

033hear the voice but we can't say yeah we hear the voice sometimes but then disregarded it you know that's where I'm having a struggle try to I guess I guess my question would then go back to uh the premise of the question why did we ask Donovin group to help us with this to facilitate this process is to get a little bit of a perspective from the community it's still a board level decision when it comes to where we go from there when it comes to forming um our strategic plan um and it should be um so I I don't want to disregard the of of our public uh because I we've heard valuable input input from from all sides on that um I I just I do feel that perhaps maybe um we can

034glean out of some of that information a stronger a stronger mission statement okay Tina Tina yes yep thank you can you guys hear me okay yes okay thank you um you know what I really like this um new mission statement I was not a fan of the previous one um I like the idea that um we're serving whether we're serving all students or our students um I I think that's just you know semantics you know however um but I think educational opportunities I appreciate what this statement gives because from the standpoint of educational opportunities that's going to mean different things to different kids um and so you know yes some of it's going to be academic achievement but you know kind of like we've alluded to in some of the feedback from the community some

035of it's going to be you know technical skills maybe it's going to be you know welding skills that yes it it does relate to some academic performance but educational opportunities we have music we have we have so many offerings as far as that goes that um you know we have the Dual language and things like that so I think it really speaks to the really great um all the educational opportunities that we have and really when kids come excited and ready to learn like they're like academic and student achievement I think is just going to carry through with that I mean they're at school you know to learn things and so I think that that takes a lot of you know the different pieces and pulls it together and represents it nicely thank you yeah

036and I I think this is really good conversation and this is what we're hoping to get from you all the one thing I think you know to keep in mind is we did provide your current mission statement to that large group and asked them to tell us what they liked what they wanted to preserve right with that statement and also gave them an opportunity to to use their voice to say we don't want to change the statement we want to keep it as it is and in the end this is where we ended up Landing through that entire process so I I hear and and acknowledge the you know the desire to have some of those words in there because it maybe feels like it's reaching for a higher level but I think it's I

037think it really comes down to that fundamental question like why do we exist um and it's it's reaching for those higher levels that comes through our work through our priorities R we want to move forward oh go ahead Lor Lori what's the purpose of our vision state of the mission or vision mission I'm gonna get back to Mission okay what is the purpose of our vision statement so the purpose of the vision statement is to set a Target moving forward uh it's it's it's intended to be like again Visionary right so what what do we see ourselves as a school system in the future what do we look like as a school system three years down the road five years down the road 10 years down the road going on I don't necessarily disagree with

038the mission statement I like the idea of educational opportunities um and I and I truly believe in a strong level of learning I think a growth mindset is one of the most important things of bur can Happ going on our tradition Innovation and transformation I'm sitting here wondering if and I like the existing Mission stable part of me wonders if we need to take some of that and incorporate into what we have I don't know if it's the vision statement if it's you know the mission but one of the we have is tradition and taking that the just encapsulates you know taking those things that you've had in the past you know in in building off of them which we've done a bit but I'm warning within Innovation transformation just the idea is turning in

039my head of hey let's take what we had for a remission statement let's transition it to you know is it our vision statement what is it what can we do with that and then building on that you know building on that and again I like what we have for the mission statement and for the purpose we have the few changes that you know Dan had thrown out I don't disagree with we threw out some words for those but is the the core root of it I think it's good what you were saying Craig about getting rid of the old one I I go along with the idea of just we have this tradition to build on how do we use that how do we leverage that so I don't know if it's the mission statement

040that we use to leverage that um or if it's else swear you know that's just my thought on this and I want to make sure that um you understand um that as we're setting the stage of this for you right we're simply doing uh what it was the RFP asked us to do right and I I I I agree with you um this is what we saw in the room and if if the board uh wants to change or do that that that is your power right our what you asked or or tasked us to do as Administration was to bring somebody in to help gather that information and bring it to you we shared with our community uh we're going to put forward a drafty draft draft of these items but ultimately the board

041is the decision maker they will they will take all of your inspiration and do what they will with it right so we're we're not here to to um Dicker with the board as to what words you want we want your words now right you asked questions we told you where they came from like like when Sam when you asked your question about all well here's where it came from here's here's here's the the decision or discussion points up to this point in time right so if there are things here that you want to keep keep that if there are things here you want to jettison do that but right now is the time where we need to really start hearing your words because in um one or two short weeks from now one and a

042no two short weeks from now we're going to be at a board meeting we're asking you to culminate so we really need your feedback and I would encourage board members to keep these thoughts that you have here because the changes that we want to enact we should be doing at the board two weeks so postulating and throwing ideas out here if the Donovan group wants to take anything under their consideration in bring anything but if they bring this back in a whole cloth to us in two weeks that's fine as well uh the board will vote on this in two weeks so going back to CHR then if we go back to the mission statement would it satisfy the question that you had if we inserted rigorous and relevant into this we serve our students

043by providing rigorous and relevant educational opportunities that promote lifelong level learning yeah I would because it's it's similar to what we had for and and yeah it would I'm seeing a lot of head nods from the board members Tina I can't see your head nod can you give me a thumbs up or whatever because sounds like we've got some I'm sorry can you repeat that please let me know if I'm typing it right you can see it on the screen now but I will read it to you as soon as she's done typing it is that what the words were was it rigorous and relevant yep so it would Now read this way Tina we serve our students by providing rigorous and relevant educational op that Pro long love of learning as our new mission

044statement so here's my issue with that is that um my issue with that previously is um you know you get into okay so um as a as a parent of students you know my children weren't provided with rigorous educational opportunities so it I guess to me it's like okay if we if we are doing this when we get specific like that like I guess like maybe that's our maybe that's more of a vision type of thing versus yeah I get it's a mission but if the school is not like already providing those kinds of opportunities I don't think we should put that like in there um when we put it in there it sounds like Yep this is you know what this is what we this is what we are doing and if we're not

045doing that then it just doesn't feel like it's cohesive with the mission statement but that is what we should be doing and with our vision statement being student centered there should be rigor for every student it might not be r every single day but there should be so I understand where you're coming from and I felt the same way back with the previous administration but I've drawn A Line in the Sand and now as we move forward this new Beacon of light and how we pushing and moving forward that's got to be where we're driving the bus and so if that's our goal that we are providing these educational opportunities for everybody to learn then that's going to be how we drive the bus and that's going to be our underlining question as a board

046all right is that rigorous for all or is that fostering the you know whatever that's got to be the drive right right I we we don't fashion a mission statement on the failures of the past right if if as a school board we're providing a high standard and high expectation then our mission statement should reflect that so Cor what if uh instead of the phae rigorous and relevant being in there what if it were to say we serve our students by providing educational opportunities that promote academic excellence and a lifelong love of learning something like that would be okay would that work better because that's a little bit less than rigorous and relevant a little bit less subjective because our goal is to promote academic excellence and it doesn't get into the question of what's

047the metric of rigorous what's the metric of relevant what what do you think Tina that's I mean I feel like that's closer I would agree because it it's academic Excellence can mean different things in the different areas I just want to make sure that we have a broad up view of it thank you for this suggestion is the the term academic have too much of a connotation on College ready when we are looking at career and life path for our students I I think if it does that means we're we're doing an injustice I believe yeah because I feel the graduat we have absolutely got academic excellence in all areas of study what I mean by that is a a benchmark of that right now do we hit that Benchmark there's some question around that

048right now right but it should that be our aim like in all areas of study right again I don't care which area you pick it may be bowling right do we definitely have standards of bowling that can lead to better performance absolutely right I I agree like said throw in make sure fine I like putting that in there I got a question uh if we take that and change it to two um does that make them more Visionary than missionary no I think and might might be stronger Ser our students provic opportuni it could be e okay how are we all uh on on this uh as our um draf test of drafts again you're going to have a couple weeks to think about it again and you'll have another kick at the cat on

049the 26th I'm sorry for cat lovers I didn't mean to disp chats um uh we serve our students by providing educational opportunities to promote academic excellence and a lifelong love of learning how does that sit with you all okay I'm going to go around the room Sam you're okay with that BR to the committee okay okay Lori yeah I'm okay I'll go the community Dan Tina she have a thumbs up okay thumbs up thank you appreciate it okay so it sounds like we have a good draft of a new vision or excuse me a new mission statement um moving on to our uh vision statement yes like to offer thoughts uh changes Tina go ahead thank you um okay the um the thought that I had there as far as um you know it's fine

050we we Inspire school pride but I'm wondering as far as like when it says through Innovative student centered education can we put that first before strong Community involvement um I know it's kind of a a slight change there but I'm like shouldn't we be shouldn't education be the first thing that we work with yeah I see what you're saying yep I do too okay other thoughts I'm wondering if instead of and we have bolster to buy or something along those lines so it's Innovative Student Center in education bolstered by strong Community involvement not just and thoughts Everyone bolstered by strong Community involvement is what he's saying like this I mean you could use the word strengthened too strengthened strengthened by strong Community involvement Yeah strengthened by strong Community involvement all so stra and maybe we

051replace the word strong with something else like Rob yeah right Community robust Community is that what you said okay what does that mean what does that look like what does robust look like what does robust Community invol I think it looks like the process we used to get this you have that many people in a room uh and and all of the emails and sit down chats and everything I mean like I will tell you I am very proud of being a wsd um leader um when it comes to this process because I will tell you I've worked in many many of school district and to see the number of people who are willing and and open to share their thoughts and um yes that that creates a you know a wonderful atmosphere but it

052also does create a problem it creates a problem of many many voices entering the room with many many different thoughts um and and you know finding common ground to you know yeah finding thaton ground yeah it gets to not only finding the common ground but but really um threading the needle on the choice of words because words definitely have power right I understand and so you're talking about the power of the word robust and what it means I'm simply asking because as others read this whether they're in our community outside of our community um looking to become part of our community that's a question that they're going to ask as they look strong Community involvement that's pretty easy to understand does robust means something different was all I was we use a stronger word does

053it mean something different than strong other than it's a 50 Cent word instead of a 30 Cent work I agree because Community involvement yes we have parents but that goes to me that would make it look like I would want to believe that all of our businesses are involved and all you know what I'm saying like that Community we have a more meaningful adjective that we could use do we mean the adjective I don't have a problem with it I'm simply asking do we need an comes from the Latin word robar which is the Latin version of our word o which comes from like a viking word or something that itself means strong so yeah it is literally just for I'm saying a little do we need the adjective just say streng by Community I

054I do I do value that last line um simply because it's something we're striving for as a district to get more Community involvement in the district and and a sense of ownership in the community so I I do value that or where I get I guess I get a little confused is um what what do we mean by we Inspire school pride it's just G you know what does that mean yeah initially it was just we Inspire Pride if I go back yeah yeah we Inspire Pride through strong Community involvement in ative student centered education and creating a just inclusive and Vibrant Community and through the feedback of that last group that word got inserted we Inspire school pride I mean I think that that would relate to like okay we all have a sense

055of community and responsibility you know in the school as far as then you know that goes through as far as the values that are concerned you know school pride we respect our building we respect each other we respect our learning I mean and that builds Community Pride you know which I really think that Watertown has a lot of so I mean I can see that because I think it also you know portrays a sense of responsibility like it's our responsibility for Learning and our responsibility to take care of each other and our you know building and those kinds of things I guess that's what that says to me thank you Tina my issue with school pride in that and I think is they re tying it to student centered education and often we see school

056pride in athletics and and you know and if your it's not tied to education necessarily is wrapped up in the entirety of the community of the school and so if we going to have school probably need to roll that into that idea of community or something else um and not just because right the way it's written here it seems to be tied to Innovative student Cent education yeah because I I think really the intent behind the group was that in the future we want our students to be proud um we of of their personal growth right we want our teachers to to be proud of their work with students we want families to be proud of of the success of their students we want the community to be proud of the value that the district

057brings to the overall uh growth of the community so I think that's what so I I I would agree that the inserting the word school here gives it a little bit of a different meaning and I wonder if it's to Stronger to leave it out and just say continuing with we Inspire Pride because it's more encompassing what about we Inspire sorry um we Inspire achievement through again I still think that that we we still the way that it's read we're still tying it to the education because you know if we we celebrate state championships National CHS we should have pride in that we should achievement so that still we not this does not wrap in that whole nature of the the of what is to be wsd so what uh my question is what Fosters

058that thought in you of just that is that because that's the set structure the set structure Inspire Pride through Innovative student centers education right that's the only way because of the sentence structure there the way you're using through you're saying we Inspire pride in this man okay you're not and it and it and that is very descriptive Innovative student centered education and it is very narrow and maybe it's the word through throwing me on that Pride isn't there School Pride I I like school pride I like Pride right but you're say Pride through this okay and then again that's what's throwing me right now there's more to us than that and we need to our vision statement should encapsulate the totality of who we are as you know WSB I'm just going to chime in

059I like not having the word School in there because it then connects to personal Pride okay in their own academic growth it might not be an a they might have gone from an F to a d well that's growth and there's for some there's pride in that there's pride in the fact that they passed you know so it's not a whole school kind of thing um and then that piece gets through some of the others but I understand what you're saying and I'm trying to think of a a word how about we do what Tina did before which is move some things around if we say we Inspire Pride through first and then have the valuing diversity and tradition um Innovative uh student centered education uh and just have that list does that broaden it

060or not I'd have to see it or are you still saying Jared I don't want any window at all the word through is out you know you just throwing this you know mixing a jumble there valuing Innovative student centered education we Inspire Pride through you know diversity and tradition or whatever we to say there and again I don't know if diversity tra tradition gives us everything but I kind of like Val valuing Innovative Student Center education as their opening line yeah I could see that valuing Innovative student centered education we Inspire Pride through whatever strengthened by Community involvement I think that's going into or drop it and say valuing Innovative student centered education we Inspire Pride strengthened by Community involved I like the way that one sounds I like that one clean and simple one

061more time I'm gonna retype it at the bottom here just so that we don't lose anything um come on work with me here okay so what I heard is let me see if I can capture it valuing Innovative student centered education we Inspire Pride um and then I forgot you said before strengthened or I I think that's what you said strengthened by Community involvement this is minor valuing Innovative and student centered education so we don't have a comma right next to a comma being that it's not really a list then you need to change Innovative to Innovation [Music] okay is student centered an adjective because it's Innovative education and student centered education Innovative and Innovative and student that sounds I can understand where you're going with that I could be ARG the other way I

062think yeah I think gramer does break down at a certain point it becomes a if you want to get rid of the comma then an innovation is and I could be argued either way on that because I mean we're not really talking about like valuing the invention of the airplane per se or peanut butter we're not talking about Innovation as a whole we're talking about innovation in regards to education right yeah yeah I AR favor Innovative in Innovation again I will defer to when you folks but so again keeping in mind the question answering the question so in in five years 10 years does valuing innovative and student centered education we Inspire Pride strengthened by Community involvement capture a vision of where we want to be I wonder if we're really missing that tradition and

063diversity piece and that kind of like gives you a sense of we're still centered in who we are but we and we are including everybody in it and moving forward as our vision that if you if we want to have those in valuing Innovative and student centered education diversity and tradition we Inspire Pride strengthen by community involvment jumble the words I say leave diversity valuing tradition I say leave those out okay yeah I think diversity's got a lot of political connotations to it and transformation too uh when I used to teach poetry we would use very few words but they'd be really great words they'd have a lot of weight to them so the fewer words you have it's important to get the right word in there transformation I don't I don't think belongs in

064the big three and I'm going to argue with you on that because the way we are structured right now we need to transform as a district to what to a as we've already talked about with the facilities and everything like this we need to transform so well and I'm okay with transformation defin like that right I think that's the key right is defining it because it can be misinterpreted I think of transformation is achieving your vision right like so we're going from a current state to a future State that's the transformation um so if you think about um our current state of Career and Technical education what do we want to want that to look like we want it to be transformed into something different moving forward or enhanced moving forward that's what the word

065transformation is meant to be it's meant to signal change for the future yeah I I I believe uh when uh Linda O'Neal asked at our meeting fourth meeting what maybe it was our third meeting can't remember exactly which one now um what does that mean and I said well the way that I've taken it uh and the way that I think our our administrative leadership takes it is holding important a continuous improvement process to always get better we're transforming we're we're engaging in that continuous improvement process um to continue to be better right thanks I see both sides of this particular issue because you know um when we were first talking s or dollars wanted to utilize those dollars the most transformative way possible for the for a district um and I I know that

066that's the intention of our district to do uh to use that word transform transformation in that way I believe that that's the way that it's used but it can be misconstrued so if if your intentions are exactly what you mentioned I think those are the words that you use to convey that like we want to be we want to stri continuous Improvement okay so that's very concise and that that can't be misconstrued you know um but tradition Innovation trous Improvement doesn't off the time you could use the word advancement that gets a little bit closer uh or development that but that sounds kind of like you're a Home Building Company so I don't know developing land I mean I'm not I don't I'm not trying to pull out $5 words every five second we could

067use amelioration I'm just kidding yeah I mean I do unique I I I too want I I I am um leery about offending people with whatever word we use but I also okay am to the point of which um the English language is so unique right I also don't want us to stray away from words that we've been using for thousands of years because somebody may take offense to one or another I I think thing to do is to choose the word that we think um what it is and make sure we're clear at stating what it means in all of our materials that are that's what I was gonna say Jared is you know you're seeing you're seeing a statement out of the context of or you're seeing a tagline here out of the

068context of the whole package or the whole picture which is there's so much in terms of supporting material that goes with the plan you're just focusing on you know one component at a time here out of the larger picture so I think we can definitely tend to making sure we're very clear about what we mean with these words about growth yeah but that's it's not necessarily the same thing I I think I'm wondering with this though okay we've got these three words we've seen them on the slide here if the first you flip over the cover of this the first thing is tradition Innovation transformation here's what we mean by those yep and clearly that's the first page you see and we Define them as we want as Jared said transformation is continuous Improvement doing

069better for the district always whatever doing better for those we serve yeah that takes always that takes away some of that hey look one here you go I I feel like that's all the reason why this vision statement must be concise because then then there's no no way possible that transformation can be taken in a uh in a nefarious way or perceived as a nefarious thing um when you're talking about your vision statement because everything else Falls in line and and it is is formed around that so this is our definition right here the rest of it is then falling in line with with that definition that's just my perspective on can I ask a question those three words tradition Innovation and transformation we've seen this is this the only place that those words are

070going to be or is that like our little our tag it's our tag line so if that tagline is everywhere they're not going to have the explanation of what that means I'm just throwing that out that's because I've been questioning where that came from through all of this because I wasn't really sure what that meant because tradition and Innovation are two opposites so I was it's coming to piece it's coming together now but a couple weeks ago when I first started seeing that I I was kind of curious where that was going to go so I I'm just I'm not saying it's good or bad I'm just throwing that out there um what we're trying to could I throw oh go ahead Tina's got her oh yeah thank you um so as we're talking through

071this um I guess I agree with Fred as far as like you know transformation and Lor I appreciate Lori Miller I appreciate you know your definition as far as like change yeah you guys we need change like that's why you know like that's why we're working so hard we're you know working to change you know when we're looking at policy and strategic plan and you know new goals and all those kinds of things like we want change like that's that's what we're working for as far as student achievement and things like that um and you know a couple thoughts as far as like the these words that we're using and things like that you know I'm sorry if the word diversity like hits a nerve with some people but sometimes we just need to get

072over that as well you know what it's offensive to me if you're not thinking that we don't provide a diversity you know educ educ as far as to our diverse students I mean you know diversity we're talking about students with disabilities students with you know Advanced learning we're talking about you know students of different ethnic backgrounds I mean that's just what it is it we have a diverse population um you know I mean I take us back to the pandemic you know there was a lot of things talking about masks and things like that did I because I was sensitive about that and I wanted to make sure that you know students were safe and wear a mask did I ask for us to say well you can't say the word math no like diversity

073like that just describes our student population and I would sure hope that we're not looking to exclude any student population as far as our education is concerned oh sorry I would say that some of that is assumed some of what is assumed so I mean we don't have to put the word diversity into our vision state in order for us to realize that we value that as a district of course we do who who wouldn't and I let let this board let us committee remember that a previous vision statement was excellent for all it that's that's all encompassing I'm you know it there's a there's a level of assumption that's made there you know can I bring us back to the vision statement the grammatical part of it we have an independent and a dependent

074clause sorry the teacher and me so the words before the are our dependent clause actors are independent so if we look at the independent clause starting with we and just look at that as a standalone we Inspire Pride strengthened by Community involvement I don't understand what that means I don't understand what that's getting at so we've moved things around I I understand why we moved it around but now if we look at the independent clause I don't understand how that's standing alone I don't think we're getting the meaning across that we originally intended or that was originally intended so I'm just kind of throwing that out there for discussion I at this point I'm fine with our our previous vision statement that or my two cents but do you mean the one that's cross out

075on top no it says Excellence for all water T way it is Bri so I mean there's an advance there but I don't know I don't think this looks too bad if we put we Inspire Pride strengthened by Community involvement strengthen by Community involvement that's why we had the word through in there originally I know but we're not inspiring Pride through the community so if you look at the purpose of an independent CL that sentence by itself what it's stating isn't what we're getting at right the dependent clause gives some descriptive to it but we have to start with the independent clause first look at what is that saying and then the dependent clause strengthens that sorry for little grammar lesson I appreciate that so so you're so if you took out like if we

076just oop sorry if uh if we just focus on the independent clause here it's we Inspire Pride through Innovative student centered education it's different than what we're saying down here we're saying we're inspired Pride that comes from the community involvement up here we're saying we Inspire Pride right because of our of our work to be Innovative and student centered so kind of back with you know the through could be insed with Innovative I don't I knew where you're where you're going with through was it is focused on Innovative student centered education if we're inspiring Pride it is all Inc compassing it's beyond just that that's his classroom too I think that's why people wanted the phrase school pride because it was about the focus and kind of the purpose of District the purpose of the

077district is not to um provide a cohesive worldview and sense of self-worth but school pride there doesn't fix that because we do not celebrate I don't have uh we don't have a pet band and cheerleaders for the A+ students right we don't and so when we say school pride it isn't for you know honor rooll we don't have them stand up the C he and get appuse it just doesn't happen so we want to see school pride and we want to incompass everything as part of that so without school it's just Pride it's Pride but still I come back to the through is this you know we are more than just Innovative student centered education well we may be but I mean that I mean it's kind of sounds like some of the discussion that

078we're having as far as like where the words go like are we focusing like our vision statement is our is what we're focusing on is pride like I'm hearing that a lot and I'm just wondering is that really what we want our vision to focus on just seems like it should be about you know like the maybe it's the student centered education you know like supported by the community involvement um but I think we need more than just Pride I wonder please please tell me if you think I'm I'm taking us in a different direction but I'm been sitting here contemplating I'm wondering if we say we Inspire our students through or we Inspire our students with Innovative student centered education strengthened by Community involvement keeping the focus on the student versus the word pride

079and I'm wondering if the word pride is the the struggle here yeah that's can you type it in there so I can see it please I'm a yeah thank you Fred I like that idea of having the iral student stand up at lunch a great idea and I actually like that if I can just say we Inspire our students to me that's more meaningful than worried about Pride just I like that worded better and maybe because then you have students students maybe you do we Inspire our students with an Innovative rigorous education strengthened by Community involvement and then you get the word rigorous in there but we had that above or did we leave that out is inovative rigorous CER rigorous education rigorous education yeah you probably take the center out of there if it's

080student centered rigor is implied because student centered depending upon where your learning level is that's where your needs would be met because I tried to put it in there earlier too yeah I I guess I'm just thinking like it it sounds a little bit like I sell baked goods to my bakery patrons it just seems a little a little bit redundant to have the word student oh I agree I don't like student and student there that would be I like Inspire students I think that's better way to put it we inspire all Learners we Inspire our Learners I drop me and just put inspiring it's inspiring learner Innovative student centered education strengthened by commun invol now it's not a sentence it's a fragment well it's a vision statement Excellence for all is a fragment too

081right that was a tagline I think yeah it was for the mission statement too yeah um have a question um I think we talked our ourselves around the diversity discussion um but we did not um secure anything around tradition I don't like tradition in the vision with tradition in the tagline okay tradition is fine we don't need it in the in the mission and vision okay but we have inovation in there and innovation in the tagline so I I like that just just wondering your thoughts on that but yeah we could take the word Innovative out too we Inspire our students but we we Inspire our Learners with a student centered education strengthened by Community involvement tightens up the sentence I'm okay either way I'm okay with Innovative in there just because that's where we're

082moving we're moving toward Innovation yeah that that is a focus that we're on and yeah it's part so I could go either either direction you also innovated The Innovation it's the different than tradition and tradition yeah definitely we had traditional B I would I would be I agree as good with it I understand the redundancy part I still kind of I get it do we need to have our so if so if I said with traditional Roots you were okay with that so if we said with traditional Roots we Inspire our Learners no uhuh that's like I can do that likeit I love that response no uhuh no notice I I did that on purpose Tina so you weren't in the room you couldn't see my face I don't know okay thank you but I

083understand what you're saying that if we have Innovation down at the bottom yeah do we need it in the sentence there no it's redundant and just like I agree with with Fred we don't need the word our in there we Inspire Learners Learners I mean and just as easily we could say with uh transformational student centered education I'm using the word transformation that's right we Inspire Learners with student centered education strengthened by Community M I like it I take out hour before Learners you don't need that say with use a different U what would it be adjective strong we Inspire um Learners with strong Student Center education Rob robust Student Center thank for someone else saying I was going to say robust um do you want an adjective in there I don't no we don't

084I don't think it's needed yeah Student Center okay so um as I read it it's it shares uh we Inspire Learners with student centered education strengthened by Community involvement okay I'm going to go around the room Sam yes you're going to defer to the group Lori I'm okay then it's okay Tina it's okay but I do need to think about it okay I'll okay so it sounds like uh we have a mission um draft and a vision statement draft that will clean up and bring to the board yes any discussion on ahead go ahead Jared you and I were like fighting for airspace which we always do right yes so I'm trying to help you in the room because I know how it is being a far in Zoom so uh I'm trying to help

085you navigate through no no not a problem at all any any concerns or thoughts feedback about core values I have a question are these in any specific order no they are not I just alphabetized them oh they're not alphabetized though H comes before I oh man you're right okay sorry about that that's I was gonna suggest alphabetizing if they weren't but that's why I didn't know if they had some sorry you looking at me like good sometimes sometimes you just are in the work to much that you don't see the things that you need to see here totally I get it I have a problem with uh valuing others beliefs the word valuing would you rather use respecting can't use the word yeah you can't use the word definition hammering um acknowledging acknowledging aing yeah

086I don't know I I understand the idea that the word valuing can be bag and it's like so am I supposed to assign a certain level of value to someone's beliefs what if what if someone has beliefs that directly contradict with mine am I supposed to Value their beliefs as equal to my own that that can get difficult and tricky right because you shouldn't ask someone to invalidate their own un beliefs by valuing someone else's right so I I get that but yeah I don't I don't know that I can't think of any other words that work better than the words I do this a lot when I um get feedback from sometimes you as a board sometimes the staff sometimes the community um even my wife I I say I I I value your

087comments right that doesn't mean I necessarily um you know uh respect condone agree with whatever it just means I value for you sharing them to the world with me right um and so I I I I I don't know if anybody's taking the word value to mean I have to then agree with you right I would disagree with that I think that when we when we look at um strategic plan this needs to be in a concise well language that our students can understand as well you know and valuing um others beliefs you just let that alone on its own I can see I can see the argument that Sam was making that that it can I I the word value is can be very vague I'm wondering how our principls and our teachers would

088look at that um because I talked with a former student who's a pastor in town who said that his uh one of his eth grade conferance was reading her Bible after she finished her homework and she was told to put her Bible away because it might offend the furries this religion is okay this one isn't you know if you have to Value others beliefs how is it interpreted by the people who are going to take action Lord could we just say treating everyone with dignity and kindness are we still on the empathy one oh sorry yeah that one is we actually have that treating everyone with dignity and kindness down in the respect um that came out as a definition for respect and you see Val oop sorry you see valuing other's beliefs identities and

089achievements there as well isn't that where you were to start with yeah that's what they were talking about I thought oh I'm sorry I changed I had this up here under empathy because it was here I'm wondering if where kind of maybe some confusion is coming in is because we're talking about our core values and so as far as if you know if that's our heading and then we're talking about value we in a different way um I mean I for me I mean okay if you change it as far as empathy is concerns the understanding and acknowledging others I mean if that's a you know if that's a maybe a better term because we're already talking about values um I think that works as far as a subtitute so if we use acknowledging um

090down below as well acknowledging others beliefs but appreciating that's got kind of the same Vibe as value I'm going to assess the value of it because then the problem is Right someone can like if I'm like a jeweler someone can give me fake gold and I can evaluate it very or I can appreciate it very poorly my the appreciation of the object is not there and our goal everyone's goal within the district should be to respect other people's opinions that doesn't necessarily mean agree or approve of it just means understand that everyone has the inherent right to believe what they want to believe acknowledge gets you there yeah I was GNA say um uh in the top section where it says valuing under empathy considering others perspectives would probably be better consider is good I

091think it's fair and it gets to the point of what empathy is about um I do think that what Lori said for respect is probably the best solution tighten up the definition and have the definition of respect be treating everyone with dignity and kindness because that is the definition of respect it's a polite civilized society so let's let's key in one at a time sorry I thought that was the we were we were we've been jumping around so let's just for Focus okay respect okay we started with Lori and kind of balanced so we kind of have it right now the idea on the table treating everyone with dignity and kindness can we all find agreement that that is what we me by respect are we missing anything I feel I think that sounds good

092are we just looking for like Webster's definitions or what are we like I guess I'm just confused as to great question Tina so again these definitions came from the people that were part of the planning work group when they identified these as the core values that they prioritized we asked them to Define them as well and so we took their definitions and kind of merged them together so that's that's how these definitions came forward this is Trivial but uh under integrity and honesty it's can we hold on can we finish respect and then we'll go to empathy we keep jumping around just for timeliness I'm jumping to Webster's definition of respect are we missing anything Sam normally you're the one on the definitions I was I'm looking you're normally very good I'm looking at Webster

093but I'm pretty sure I'm looking at the webp from 1828 so I didn't jump there because normally you do so I was differing treating everyone with dignity and kindness is the important thing um I I think both of those words communicated very well because everyone has dignity regardless of their beliefs we all have human dignity and kindness is the core the core trait that allows the society to stay civilized and keep on moving well so I can't think of anything better than that all right going around the room treating everyone with dignity and kindness yes yes Tina yes yes she got thumbs up good then we jump to empathy it currently reads understanding and valuing others perspectives to create a caring and school Community I'm going to bounce us back to we're talking about values

094and valuing form of the word shouldn't be there um so if we take valuing just that word out understanding others perspectives to create a caring and school Community is what we have is that what we wanted to say are we missing anything R him I like considering that say because I think if you take just take out valuing I can understand but I'm not Tak it into consideration so maybe considering and understanding because you consider in order to understand corre I was going to I was yes speak no you're all good we're on the same page oh consider yeah seek to understand others perspectives to create hearing you know I mean me it means be an word seeking to understand seeking to understanding seeking to understand seeking understanding and two par that up let's go

095back like considering considering and understanding others perspectives to create a caring and school Community good Tina yes Craig Craig 's got a thumbs up okay honesty telling the truth and expressing your values even when it is difficult the word values expressing your values I we see I will see I'm actually impressed that that this is here um both this and integrity um this actually I put this on my exit survey and I'm surprised it's here so I do agree with that can we just put telling the truth even when it is difficult yeah that gets rid of the second person problem with integrity and honesty that's the only place where it's in second person your oh I just we gotta get rid of the word values so yeah telling the truth you Circle yeah yeah

096because honesty is not saying everything think honestly so can I can I add the add the other part when when it talked about um you know expressing yourself or expressing oneself um there there's truth in in saying but there's truth in action right and the second part is talking about your actions yeah right and so the the um telling the truth and expressing oneself uh even when it's difficult um how about expressing the truth even when it is difficult that tightens it up even more I just I just wanted to make sure that we embody the actions of people not just the words of people definitely yeah and Express is a wider word than tell yeah for sure telling the truth expressed through action even when it is difficult can you say that again I

097missed I missed telling the truth expressed even when it's difficult telling the truth expressed through action even when it's difficult [Music] I mean sometimes I not an action with time that's confusing yeah yeah that's why I think expressing the truth is tighter than like yeah I I expressing the truth for someone under fifth grade what does that mean they telling the truth doing it fast you know Express could we say the truth through words and action that makes I yeah Tina GRE Sam NS yes I maybe I kind of like Shar suggestion but I I I just I wanted to make sure that we get both right right I'll go along one so what do we have I can't read my glasses on telling the truth through words and action even when it is difficult

098words words and actions maybe words and action I like that it's all a okay perseverance keep going or wait you didn't do Integrity sorry sorry I'm going off the other one because out alal now I can't someone read that for meing so it says yep Integrity is doing the right thing being honest and taking responsibility for your actions do we want being honest and there when we already when honesty isn't already listed as a or do we want to double I Integrity I agree you could take if you wanted to keep the uh second person thing out what Dan was talking about you could just end it after the word responsibility doing the right thing being honest and taking responsibility is workable but yeah and if if you don't like the word honest because it's

099honesty is up there you can say being truthful oh I don't I don't have a problem with that I just was B out there you know um I I do kind of like that at it um you're taking responsibility I mean so if that's interpreted as I got a feeling great on my you know assignment um I need to take responsibility for that as Integrity um is it an action that I got a feeling grade on my assign that can be kind of confusing I mean it doesn't just speak to discipline I gu exactly my suggestion here it's I feel like you're leading me to a clip and I'm and taking responsibility and I know it's just minor but if we start with taking responsibility comma doing the right thing comma and being honest I

100just that taking responsibility and maybe it's because I read it for your actions I just feel like I'm left hanging okay I like that and the word honest leads into the next word which is honesty I think that's nice actually and being honest I I think I missed something we just put taking responsibility first so taking responsibility comma doing the right thing comma and being honest yep got it okay and if we don't want honest if we want being truthful where do you fall in the oord you need that Box is always necessary okay moving on love it persever and I just ignore it every time perseverance keep going or adapt when faced with challenges always striving for growth and academic and personal Improvement okay too many an there there are too many ANS there

101y I've been sitting with that a little bit you let's start with adapting and he could say challenge you could just say keep going when faced with challenges or you could say striving for growth and personal Improvement even when faced with challenges or something to that effect Webster's definition is continued effort to do or achieve something despite difficulties failure or opposition you going is continuing [Music] we still have to have that the adapting then if that's staying in there I don't know if you need adapting because okay you you want continuing and Stu keep going yes at that continuing when faced with challenges always striving for I think we could just say always striving for growth and personal Improvement I like that do we need growth if we have personal Improvement yeah is that redundant

102striving for academic and personal Improvement academic and personal Improvement because I I don't know when it comes to perseverance I I I always look at it like you're striving to overcome adversity uh when it comes to perseverance and uh I don't know is why you need that little end statement that says even when faced with difficulty right I personally preferred the um previous definition before that modification because I mean we want more than academic personal Improvement I mean kids who maybe perseverance for them is you know they're on the attrac team and you know they're going to persevere through something difficult and you know because they had they overcame that and they persevered through that that is going to help them academically like I don't think it should just be you know on the academic

103person the portion I like the personal Improvement as well back just being grow and personal so do it like this [Music] instead of continuing I'm going go back to the def Miriam's definition continued effort continuing what continuing continuing what no Contin now Contin Contin Contin it's continuing is not out I I think Contin change we could change it to striving for growth and personal involvement when faced with challenges does that imply continuing forward I feel like that works I'm that you guys you make me feel so good when you accept my oh shoot when you accept my recommendation let's see let's see striving perseverance though by definition doesn't have anything to do with personal Improvement and growth it's muttering through the tough time so yeah we want personal achievements but if we're looking I guess

104this hold on it's muttering with an outcome right that's what I just getting to because value you want with it okay so that what you just need to determine what your outcome is and that's what you guys were talking about is it personal growth is it academic growth is it a mixture between them got it because it's the value it's not just a definition right I'm with you yeah I think the word perseverance brings to mind for me at least it brings to mind like hiking and like trying to get to the I I went to Colorado two weeks ago so I'm totally biased on this but uh this is where my brain's but it breaks to mind like trying to get to the top of the mountain right that's kind of the idea so

105there is Improvement growth accomplishment because it's a school district what if you put achievement instead of growth yeah I like gr sorry I like okay as I say you're G move away from what Tina shared about growth right if you do that I'm just going back to your growth mind set comment about a half hour ago that's why I like all right are we good with perseverance as it's written going around Tina yeah Lori's still thinking Tina's got a thumbs up you're good all right and we've already done respect yeah great so then hopefully this is easier our priorities and and our priorities I don't know if you need me to type them on a different SL can you read them okay let me make it a little bit bigger for you so our priorities

106are across the top we have five priorities and really the the wording is something we can play with but the concepts are the first one is about academic excellence student growth the second one is about how we how we support how we compensate how we ensure that we have Educators high quality Educators connecting as a community is about Community engagement Outreach communication marketing intentional resource allocation is about being smart with the funds that we have and how to get more funds and Innovative facilities in use is about um maybe being strategic about how we use our facilities but also this begs the question about referendum for facilities as well so th those are the categories um happy to to adjust wording but we we leaned hard into the wording of existing language in the district

107already around pillars and I don't know Jason if you want to add to that these pillars to board last year and like operational pillars and that work comes from collaboration between principles directors and Dr Bri you have a clear miss here and I I can't believe you did that you all in team that should be we got this it was before that we got this Movement we were ahead of ourselves I love it the Allin team is the only one that just you know looking at it in this view like you know when we talked about it fine but when I look at I sh like God not more we got that's no I just no he he likes it that's that's the problem oh boy for quick clarification Lai our the the subject that

108we're talking about is is it only those top five Yellow Boxes yes so thank you for that so the the hard work comes like addressing the things that are in white through our goals and our and our strategies so um right now we're just focusing on landing on the priority areas for those goals to lay or rest yes yeah that white part you see that is the community uh sharing with us um go they think what they think the work should be so those would help inform goals in those areas I will tell you like Administration the board we we could have other white things that we would add to those or we we would say that's that's good I hear you this is more important right now as a goal right so so just

109again the white there is just informational this is what came out of the the voice of the community no yeah like it's like BR said the reason I was asking was because I was thinking like okay so like I'm going to be here until the ed services meeting I'm gonna go that and then I'm GNA go home and go to sleep but yeah okay cool that I know I like the way they all sound I agree all in team is a little bit I unclear to me we got this it's right there we got if you're gonna use something that's a little bit cier I do think that we got this would be a would be a snappier one um and the idea is it's about having a quality Administration and faculty and Y I

110don't have too many recommendations a plus team I SP was I I would agree with that that um if I'm looking at the yellow um headings without context about all in team I wouldn't have the um idea that this is specific to um the the team teamwork regarding our staff and and cohesiveness there so um we it would be nice to come up with something little specific to that when we did do this work with the principal and director team we did Define those so you are this is void of the kind of definition talk about all in team we defined it by saying recruit develop support and retain team members through investment in all employees encouraging Innovation affirming exemplary professional practices and celebrating success so that just added more context where this is going

111back so if that's the case then do you have that kind of definition for every single one of these yes yes yes yes so when we when we put together the full plan that will need to be included and so that'll help like Jason said looking at these terms without the the definitions next to them is maybe a little bit challenging well then then I may have issue with with how you may contextualize some of these headings um without that without that um context yeah I was just thinking the same thing we can provide that with the plan when we bring it to the board and we can bring this all to you prior to the board meeting as well for a review yeah yes probably bring defition for them and then in that case

112I would say that you should change all in team to we got this with an exclamation point yes with an exclamation can you he me yes Tina you broke up he me yes okay oh okay is this better okay um I have no problem with the headings I mean I'm sure you guys will Define them the most of the people you know need to to be in the workings of it um yes I just wanted to make sure that um oh we're losing her breaking up Tina and you're muted now Tina you can you hear us Tina can't hear you Tina do you want to text me or put it in the chat oh hold on um she just texted me said I'll talk again a couple minutes now I can I'm so [Music] sorry

113well Tina we'll catch you again in a couple minutes yeah so so we'll we'll do that for you all so that you can see everything that we did tonight I'll bring it back to you and have it for you so that you can look at it prior to the board meeting and encourage you to ask us questions right if something's unclear because we we our goal is to be very clear and and again try to capture the work that really is quite moving there was a point where I got teary eyed watching that group of individuals work so hard to prioritize um it's it's really inspiring to see uh such a mix of community members come together and be all in as an Allin team but to be Allin and and working so hard to

114find that common ground for what's best for our kids so really really great work I will uh include with that a focus of of a design for you so you can also provide feedback on that but really really The Next Step here is that we're working to finalize this this overview plan so that we can put in place before the start of the school even um putting some of these goals together um bringing forward those goals to help us actualize the plan during this first year of the plan typically our plans are 3 to five years and we have this one set to be a three-year plan so carrying us from 2024 to 2027 and uh so we'll we'll map out the different kinds of goals and strategies that we want to have each of

115the years leading up to the 26 2 seven school year and through that year so that you can see that as well so that's kind of the next steps uh along with just a a whole series of communications and the communications for this includes multiple things it create it's creating um once we have a design finalized it's creating like social media graphics and content for the district to use and sharing the plan but also you know sharing progress about the plan um it's creating news releases is it's creating a um a slide deck that you can use to share about your strategic plan and also use with other presentations when you're reporting out to the community about progress being made with the plan it's um creating some type of promotional brochure that not only captures

116your strategic plan but also uh includes like buy the numbers or points of pride your biggest brags if you will of the districts to use in one encompassing piece and also uh putting together a a video um that rules out the plan and something that we have been doing at the diving group that is getting a lot of good traction with other places across the country is developing a type of kinetic typography video that is really fastpaced with music and great imagery from your District but shares the components of the plan along with some of those um you know biggest biggest Pride points um to celebrate and highlight what the district has to offer and that can be used you know on social media it can be part of your your signatures um it can

117be uh used on your website of course so those are just some of the communications that are coming once the board has an opportunity to have that final presentation and and opportunity to take action on improving the plan and then that comes with the roll out and implementation ultimately once it's implemented then the hard work comes in terms of operationalizing the plan monitoring whether we need to um make adjustments or if we need to double down on some strategies uh and making sure that we report out on a consistent basis on the progress so I know we've talked about some ways to do that moving forward including including setting up a a type of dashboard so those are kind of the the next steps it's been a long a long conversation but I think a

118really well-deserved and and productive conversation does anybody have any other thoughts questions there's Tina's face I've been looking at the screen for so long I haven't seen seen faces there's Lynn's smiling face any any other thoughts or questions let's go back to Tina Tina did you are you at a place now where you can share she just she's Frozen a try again Tina we can't we can't hear you Tina she's gonna get out of the car yeah I think she's giving up on the car okay okay so um let's let's talk a little bit about uh then moving to the next agenda item and Tina if you do get to a place we can always go back to your comments um or you can also share them on the 26th um at the board meeting

119so the next part of the agenda is that piece where uh we're talking about moving forward and for this uh Lori I'm gonna have to excuse you because we are gonna be talking about a proposal that you offered from your company and it's only it's only good to maybe do that um here and then if they have questions I can certainly bring them to you that sounds good that sounds good thank you for your input tonight thank you guys have a good rest of the evening thank you for everything so um as as we uh transition into the next steps uh remember our original RFP uh talked about um asking companies for continued support uh in um the implementation phase which would be helping with the the the finalization of the goal structures making sure

120that those goals had measurable outcomes and that the measurable outcomes were um continued to be displayed uh to our public our families um and our staff as well as you as at the board uh in a fashion that um you know we we knew communicated everything that we were doing well and had transparency um and uh the initial discussion uh that we had gotten from the the Donovan group um had a price tag to that we subsequently a different group uh of administration um that's starting to do some pre-referendum planning put out um some quot responses uh in regards to um asking companies about survey work that we might do around a referenda uh and uh support for a referenda um whether that was on a capital referendum or if it was um uh continuing

121in an operating fashion or operating referendum and those kinds of things uh when we put this out to the Donovan group they said said that our continuing work with you uh in strategic planning um is continuing work with that we do with all customers in relation to communication uh support strategic planning and referend of services so their response was basically if you continue with us on your strategic planning uh you'll get refer referendum Services uh and those kind of things free uh and that's part of what we do um so with that uh discussion point I shared uh what was in my ability to approve uh and I said well um at your rate of $4,000 a month for continued Services I can approve four months uh within my budget and my authority um so

122I want you to know uh I'm informing you that I said yes to that that'll get us through November and that will get us through a lot of our pre-referendum uh discussion uh points will it will continue to provide Melissa with a lot of communication around not only referenda but also strategic planning uh and it'll continue to help support Jason and the administrative team in the finalization and development of goals measurable outcomes and the start of a creation of a dashboard if you would like to move past that um I need your authority to move past that through the rest of the year into June uh so what I have for you to look at and review is the services that we would get um in that document um the uh you can see that

123there are some things that are highlighted in there um those are the things that um are strategic plan based that we would like to move forward in the RFP um along with some other uh things related to referendum planning um it's a it's a it's a large uh document um basically outlining the services that we would get through Donovan group um in relation to the strategic planning and other services that they provide their uh monthly subscription customers um they support a lot of school districts you know the work that they've done to this point to get us this far um and I will continue them through November because I just do think it's prudent and it's within my authority and budget to do that um and I will make sure that I continue that to

124the under my authority um and then you can tell me if you want to move forward further I just think it's very prudent I we we hired a communication specialist and I do not want to throw them first into referendum uh Communications and strategic planning Communications only because remember we were we brought them on to strengthen our just everyday Communications with each other and with our families and everything else and so H having that support specifically for referendum Services as well as our strategic plan is important for our Communications team but also it's uh it's important for Jason and our data and our curricular teams um building teams as we um start the first steps in these processes so that's why I made the decision I have to go with the first four months can

125you please clarify something for me you mentioned things that are highlighted that's right can you go back to that there's a bunch of things there what is the highlighted mean compared to the non highlighted yeah so I I I believe the the reason um she uh put the highlights in is because that really um stood out as stages four and five of the old RFP that we had the things that we were looking for like the dashboard uh continued support in those goals and development still be doing the other things as well exactly she does the whole list but she she wanted to highlight the things in the old RFB that met what we asked for right we get that and then some you get that and then everything else that's not highlighted right thank

126you in this discussion point so Craig did I see your hand well actually yeah well kind of like this then this so I wasn't sure um yeah previously we had a we we had DND do the uh Communications audit Communications audit and part of the rationale behind selecting them was that we as previously when I was on strategic planning or the planning committee we thought that there would be a good for um moving forward with referendum obviously a timetable has shifted um since then um has there any been any consideration given to DND um moving forward yeah so so DND uh is uh retiring uh uh and uh certainly would transition or or make a recommendation to transition to one of their uh protes that were coming through and working with us on our account

127um but there there was some consideration in that my consideration in this Craig is if I'm going forward with the strategic planning pieces that I was looking for anyway and we get the other stuff for free I don't necessarily need to go out and look for communication referendum communication planning and and other sorts but that assumes that there was um there was a a desire to for this committee to move forward with uh the donov and Drew when it comes to referendum planning that's that's what I'm asking it for right now is is uh what kind of support would you have for that um I I want to take the next steps in uh moving forward with the strategic planning for the next four months I'd actually like to consider that for the rest of

128the year which is also part of the discussion um if along those four months I can get some free Consulting on some referendum work that I see us having uh I think that's prudent if you guys want me to bid that out and get some other and pay extra I will do that too I I just I think it's worth the discussion right yeah and again I I I that was the purpose today that's that's the purpose of tonight right I'm not saying let's lock in and go I'm saying I know uh what we need from a strategic planning standpoint and to transition into a school year along with doing referendum planning services and everything else I think it's prudent to keep the people on who we've been working on strategic plan with for just

129a little bit longer I did that under my authority already okay with with what could do with in budget and what I need I'm asking if you yes go ahead I'm so sorry I didn't mean to interrupt talk when you can okay um has this I I would definitely see the value as far as the continuity is concerned um I can't imagine the scope of having to you know try to restart with another group as far as I mean you know training employees is a big you know time and resource expense as far as that's concerned um have you been happy in working um with Lori as far as like the Strategic plan and things like that have you been happy as far as working with them and um how that's gone I I am

130in in in these regards one I think that they're they fostered um with the information that was put out and everything else um they fostered a robust discussion around the strategic planning we brought in so many voices from the community um and honestly it started out thin but they helped us Double Down triple down um and with the support of our admin team uh we really got there I think they they did the best they could to synthesize and bring thoughts to you uh as a group and tonight they showed that they were open to hear exactly what you wanted and perform that in the way that you were looking for um not not guide you in a way or a thought or whatever just here it is and how can I facilitate this for

131you um so those are the areas that I appreciate uh from working with uh Donovan and it's in a way that um comes from an outside view uh helping us move that along on a um a scale of normality right this is how districts do these things right and and so that way it didn't go off track anywhere okay yeah I mean it sounds like it was a good partner and things like that and I mean if it's I I mean I was with the original group that evaluated um you know the different things even as far as communication and things like that and um so I mean I I support you know see as how this is like what you need like we need something you know along the way and stuff like that

132and so um I would support that for you are you guys happy with the outcomes to this point and what we're thinking of as we move forward yes uh no I'd agreed no no I didn't think it was effective the way that it was handled why is that well mixing the tables up there were dominant people at the tables who decided what was going to be put on the board what wasn't um it it just um it didn't seem like the discussion uh was effective at each of the tables my my question is is did you get um the outcome you asked for which is the views of the community expressed to you in a way that you could be productive with I don't think so you don't think so no I don't I mean

133is that how other people feel or I mean should we scrap all of it and start over we are you happy were you happy with where the vision ended up to I am satisfied where we ended up but we don't we don't the the Strategic plan has not yet been formed in its entirety I'm still forming an opinion on whether or not that is where we need to go and if we're we're voting coming at the end of the month on a strategic plan to me that should be a little better defined um going forward then here it is make a make a decision I'm not I'm not happy with that process uh so I had a lot of people contact me uh between the sessions when we went to them and ask me about

134how information from the previous sessions had been synthesized and then returned you know like from session two from three to four and I think that speaks to what Dan was talking about a little bit uh I know that I had un hand I do like meeting people but I don't know talking to them getting to know them on the other hand I definitely notice a similar Trend happening not just at table I was at but when I was looking at other tables uh of people who had particularly strong Wills I know in one instance uh a table did not actually hand in their personal draft admission statement because there was a lack of agreement and someone was very staunch about it um and maybe that's inevitable but I do think that there's concern about in

135the overall sense how exactly is all of that information gathered up and given back to the board I think that was the main thing that I had people asking me about uh so for instance in the pillars section all of the all of the data points those were summaries not direct copies of the different points that have been written down and I had quite a number of people when they were looking at this uh you know preceding this meeting saying hey why is this on there why are these things grouped together and these things are why do you arrive at that number and that wasn't something that was clear and forthcoming on the other hand I understand the uh the difficulty that you Tina Diana are talking about um with going with an entirely new

136group and trying to you know get things rolling with an entirely new set of people that's very difficult I think that if we were going to move forward with panorama or I'm sorry I'm I'm already prepared for tomorrow morning oh boy if we are gonna move forward with Donovan grou uh I do think that we probably would have to define a little bit better what that process is going to be like beforehand and have a better idea of how uh whatever measures we take I guess Clarity and transparency in those areas right um that's my two cents sure alongside what they're saying Tina you got your hand up sure I mean I if you're asking um specifically as far as like Donovan group is concerned um I mean I think it was a I think

137it was a very good process she outlined things in the beginning as far as like what the process would look like um I mean I I get it may not look exactly how everyone wanted to um it may I think she did a really great job in working with all of the different Community groups and bringing everybody together I think it's important that you know whoever was represented at the community um meetings and things like that I think she did a really good job of you know mixing that up because I think that goes back to some of our core values and listening to each other and considering different you know perspectives and things like that um I actually had a lot of people reach out to me and thought that she did a good

138job as far as um you know kind of melding things together they were like you know I didn't know how this is going to go you know and they maybe had people you know of different opinions and things like that um but they they thought that she you know took things brought people together to be able to bring that forward um you know I think we also have to keep in mind we're not experts in this area I mean she's bringing the information to us and she is our specified contractor she is the one that is you know the expert in being able to bring people together um you know I think we also have to remember what our role as a board is and ours isn't in the nitty-gritty you know of that we

139are are participating in it but you know we also have to take a look at the overview of it um but I I mean I think she did a great job as far as I agree with what you said Jared she brought things together um you know she represented what people brought forth um but then we're still open to um you know our specific um input as far as we the final decision makers so you go out to RFP do you think you can get someone to come in for $28,000 or less they're 4,000 a month you're asking for seven more months that's 28,000 if we can't get any if we can't get anybody in for less than 50 I mean you know what I'm saying with this here's the thing for for other groups

140to do uh the work if you go back to those original rfps we were um at way more than the 4,000 a month plus the 30,000 initial um for both of those other two quotes if we wanted to engage them they're they're still going to have a fairly High quote because they didn't do the first start of the work so they would have to se start with a review of the work that was done right to get caught up just just wanted to share that like no but again that's not that wouldn't be my rationale for moving forward right um my rationale is uh that I I do think that they did exactly what we asked them to do which is to uh bring the voice of the community in a culminated fashion for you

141guys to do the work you may not agree with the methodology I've shared this sometimes you don't agree with my methodology but I ask you always to tell you know tell me were you happy with the outcome in the end I think all of you sat here tonight and you had an outcome on these uh first really initial and important parts right that will inform the next parts that I have to do in coordination with the um teacher teaching staff and admin team um to bring you goals that you will ultimately have to approve as well so um I think that I have the information I need to to help me with that the the information that you clarified tonight so I I understand that you might not have agreed with the processes along the

142way but in the end she brought I think this community together more than it could have been I mean it could have gotten really divided really quickly that didn't happen here um I guess I we can have differences of of of opinion on on that process um um I still go back to this is a different this is a different here we're shifting into a different Focus now that happens to be with a referendum I look at that as a separate function I look at that as I want the best quality the best competent and qualified candidate or or vendor to pursue for that particular purpose when it comes to referendum um Services now if that means that it ends up being the Donovan group great you know we save some money if it turns

143out that there are some other uh other uh groups that we should consider for that I think it should be within this committee's perview to actually go into close session and have that discussion um at the end of the day a job needs to get done and it has to be with that particular referendum a referendum hopefully passes well I I don't know I'm not confident if at least in from what I've seen so far that that is going to be the right fit for Donovan group um you asked about a certain satisfaction I have with Donovan group I answered honestly I'm looking for this I need to make sure that this is going to be a function that is well executed um for for for referendum does the does the committee uh wish that

144I go out and uh secure other referendum uh Communications slash um surveying type groups to bring back information because I I certainly can do that and I will just move forward on the four months with just the Strategic plan process unless the board gives me direction to also move forward with uh referend because I I I don't want to cloud cloud the waters uh I I'm hear more about the strategic planning it's under strategic planning I shared with you I want you to know her quote also um touches this Stone over here that um we're going to have some need for we don't have to engage in that free opportunity we can set that aside and we can just go forward with the strategic planning piece I secured four more months of strategic planning I'm

145wondering if you want to continue further through the rest of the year and that I I don't need to Cloud the waters with the rough run in piece we can we can set that aside for now and I can go out if that's what you want what does the committee want me to do so when I look through here first of all I'm in total support of your four months you know great whatever Tina texted me that she um supports you going forward with your work in that as well um if that's all we're looking right now or are we talking referendum too are we are we getting one thing first and then or are we commenting I I want I wantan to I want an understanding of whether or not you want me to

146commit through the whole year with strategic planning because um I would have the same not here let's start with that piece first and then if if you want me to do something different with referendum we we can definitely do that but this this quote has both in them okay because because that's how they that's how they work with their customers they work with all things y that they work on one flat fee a month that I had one was what Fred already brought up at 4,000 a month times seven 28,000 you know so you already brought that piece in the second piece um they highlighted things for the RFP is there anything that was left on the RFP that isn't a part of this was there anything missing I don't believe so that that I

147have to put the case in for sure but and then the third piece in that in order to have in order for me to make a value decision in terms of you know is this where we go in terms of the referendum as well that's the second bar piece I'm understanding where Craig is coming from I don't have enough information here to make that decision on if they would be the best helping us move forward but I also know that if you're jumping in November December and you have until April there's a very short window of time there you might not be able to get the best person for that in that short window anyway because you're going to have to catch them back up to speed first and then move forward so I don't

148know what possibilities there are we're training the referendum separately from strategic plan correct working [Music] parallel so the D groups that the other person has to wait until they're out we could work them in parallel based on that other thing I would like to know is how many referendums have they over you know helped out with what's their success right correct I don't know that information I'd like to know that before you make Wisconsin referenda or Nationwide ref I would go with Wisconsin referenda there are some listed in the school districts they worked with and so forth yeah to answer your question Fred I think we wrote the mission and vision statements or rewrote them we had input we We Didn't Start whole cloth we didn't start with blank slate that's true we had the

149words that we started with and we moved things around we changed things we updated I I think having though we did hear as a group from the community we all in those meetings we heard what the community said we brought those voices with us tonight to this meeting when we changed those things and we updated what we ended up with I would agree I would agree with that so that's if we had if the Don group hadn't been there we hadn't those meetings we wouldn't have had that input in in us tonight me so I will give them back I don't know if I necessarily agree again with their method you know I don't think it was terrible but there I you know there's there is a sense of we had four weeks of meetings

150or whatever and we've got a mission and vision and I know there's more coming to this and I think that's the piece we're missing is because I think and Jason correct me if I'm wrong but there's a lot more work that went on behind the scenes other than those meetings that we haven't seen that is going to in be a part of this strategic plan that we need to see to validate what was their effort because if that was all that they did was hold those four meetings by all means no but I want to see everything else I want to see the definitions I want to see all the other well and if you go to that road map road map documents the the list of documents right yeah um it's all all of

151those things are there that were taken from and what I'm saying work groups and meetings what we're been presented of the 26 is going to make up my mind you know on on how well they've done but as far as I still see strategic plan and referendum is separate things so we need to look at that for me and again I'm going to defer to what the committee says here tonight but for my input is these are separate things that should be looked at I agree okay then uh I will I will do the best I can to uh bring a couple of different quotes what the committee says not what I say wait I think that's what you guys are leaning towards I think I heard that from multiple people here so one of

152the questions was extending you got to November one of your questions was do we extend the donam group was that not a question out there that we have not answered right so at this point I would say no because I think we still need more information You mean past the four month part P the four month for the Strategic plan now we're just talking strategic plan put refer that's gonna explode if we don't that could be done because it's the month's month yeah you could do this past November we have to yeah and that that doesn't have to be decid on tonight I don't think no but as we get through that $20,000 threshold right so you don't want to wait until the month before cor you can come back in October I guess I

153mean that's the month before the four month threshold ends but well you can bring it just to the full board you don't have in September you don't have to wait to bring it planning necessarily so that was the first question extending beyond the year first extending to the year basically down 26th which is the um basically the end point at which first three phases you've already done the four month right yes I did so that goes through November October November November December actually September October November December okay so the question to the committee if I'm not mistaken is do we extend through June June and through June as opposed to ending at December I think we just need to see where the Strategic I think I agree with basically I'm not to repeat with Fred

154because I don't think we need to but that's mying I would rather wait let's see how the Strategic plan looks and have maybe a further discussion okay Dan I'm not sure yeah um I was not impressed um and then I look are we gon to discuss the second uh well get through the first part first so we're getting right now this the decision I mean are we going to go through these slides uh that are tonight no no the 19th page back that's more like a supplementary material right yeah yeah supplementary material well yeah and I'm I'm looking at some of the things on that that look like they're going to be similar to what we've gone through okay so so then the question that I'm going to pose out there is since there's uncertainty

155right now because we haven't seen the other parts of the Strategic plan which we should be seeing in the next two weeks we have a planning meeting in September can we put that on the planning meeting agenda for September make a decision then we would have then seen because it would have been presented to the board or to this to the staff does that give enough Runway time for you decision wise you didn't need that decision tonight or did you need it tonight so um what what take there right I I don't need a decision tonight on the continuation of the strategic planning process okay like I said I've I've taken the initiative to get us out at least to a place where I feel we've got the school year going we've got all the

156action plans they are with um indicators right a measurable outcomes and I don't know if that'll get us to the creation or start of a creation of a dashboard I don't know right but I do know it will get us to the next phase that will give you some time to say do we want to continue to reinvest that's fine on the referendum side we uh we do need to start engaging public sooner than later which means we're looking at in the next two or three weeks starting survey development and um probably getting initial surveys out mid September so if you do not want us to engage that with the Donovan group that's fine I will bring other quotes to you for the 26th for your review and you can tell me who you want

157to go with to get survey work done initial survey work and I and I'm and I'm fine with that direction we will need to come together on at least who's going to help us with the survey work the initial survey work uh around questions that you guys are going to develop and ask the community okay so you're going to work with this vendor whoever it is to finalize those that those questions we're going to also be working with p on uh the capital side and beer on the um uh uh I just lost the word finan yeah on the on the yes the financial side just use that word right um so that way um we know um those questions that we want to put forward to talk about support and how much support uh

158is out there but we do have to get moving on that so and we've already started some work at getting um quotes from other companies I just want to know what direction you want and so I'm fine with that but we do have to get the initial survey work no matter what we do in the end I mean some some people just go uh find a builder out there and have the Builder help them if if we're not going to do anything Capital um and I don't know if we are or aren't come April well I don't have a builder on board who can communicate just a financial question and so I I don't like going that route um but that's what a lot of school districts do they just have their General um help

159with their marketing team do marketing for refund but if we're going for an operational referendum that financial piece um you're not going to engage that method yeah we still have a bunch of other questions at a board that we need to um discuss we have some soul searching to you know I need the I I need those questions forward them to Fred um because on we're we're trying to pull together um a um initial referendum a subcommittee meeting on Friday morning at about 7:30 so um it's great just start with jar since I was on this well and and was assigned that as um the committee assigned it so um if you have questions about referendum or soul searching or discussion points give them to Fred because welcome most he's he's going to have to

160help us lead through that as a subcommittee well absolutely I mean that's the whole I don't know what that means I think I do feel that there needs to be some sort of a strategic discussion at the board level at some point about what our needs are and and we need to try to now is this subcommittee part of a prediscussion prior to that happening or anything anything that we make any discussion has to happen board level the only thing the subcomittee to do will tee up you know make sure that we have all the information we have all those pieces we need for the board before we have the discussion that's what I'm looking for with the sub to get this together get you know yeah so all they're gonna do make sure we

161have that piece we have to have those things there so when the board asks those questions we have the answers ready so they're they're going to look over uh uh projections and and discussion points from bear on both um the operational side which is continuing financially or uh the capital side and the mixture of their uh between from the capital side you're also going to um have to have some discussion around the work that you set PR down to talk about um your vision for what capital needs are anywhere from fixing deferred maintenance items to um consolidation and what that might look like okay so that's what we're talking about first steps of doing that um I've got bared uh doing everything from just an operational referendum and at our current dollars or a smaller

162operational because we want to uh consolidate and get into a better um efficiency or fiscal impact right um so we'll be starting with a smaller operational referendum a larger Capital referendum uh and then talking about a timeline to phase in other parts of that plan over the next 10 years so that's that's what this this sub committe is gonna be to you guys so I'm assuming that there's going to be more detail involved in that subcommittee than than just a fiscal committee yeah meeting but we are we are getting away from the agenda for tonight which was to talk about I'm trying not to have a discussion about the the referendum specifically but the details of which I mean that that that's what I'm after I I want to be part of that discussion at

163some point um and I think the tire board should be part of that discussion I just I just need to know what part of that process are we we're just trying to try to hold things in a little bit we got a pile yeah we need to organize it for you first right I mean Craig that's all we're doing is organizing getting us all together and SP four hours asking questions and going okay let me get you that answer right those answers need to be there when we ask the question sure so we have the questions want to te those up ahead of time send them to me and I'll make sure people get get the answers and not waste their time asking them in the room that they don't have in front of all

164right I didn't get to weigh in on my thoughts so I'm gonna weigh in okay I think Tina already said she was in support um I think that we should go for the year with the Donovan group in support of the um strategic plan portion of things so when I look at the list that's there the majority of that list is supporting Melissa and we look at Melissa was brought in halfway through the year to support District needs then you put referendum on top of that you put strategic plan on top of that and you look at how can we help her do her job to get all those communication pieces with the community together if we don't have that support for her I'm afraid that she's going to be floundering in so many different

165ways so I just want you to Noodle on that we will have that discussion I just everybody else got to weigh in so I felt I wanted to weigh in um we'll have that discussion further at the September meeting Jason do you have act any action steps that we need to have other than this discussion piece for our next meeting for the September I for everyone here did we miss anything other than bringing this forward at September when you say this that's the Strategic plan referendum conversation they'll be yes but that least p is coming anything else thank you all meeting adjourned 806 BR can I ask you a question now are we going to who's going to make up the task for what force the