001can I we relax those rules according to board policy for yeah that's what we're we're doing we're you don't want follow according to 8140 is what you're saying yeah so everybody if if you have something to say I I know it's just uh no I was just getting clarification I guess I missed yeah yeah so that's that's what we're doing I appreciate I appreciate that um so my remarks on Monday Sam strike them off the record for back to here um so anyways uh getting started uh I'll turn it over to you Sarah uh we'll get started right away on purchases over 20,000 one uh this month and we have Shaya price here to talk about it it's um some refrigeration work for the nutrition services Department um and you can see loaded in the
002agenda we've got the quotes and then her summary and what she is recommending you have anything that you want to say or talk about um no just um to clarify I think I think it's clear but um the cool CRM quote did not include the electrical so we had um gotten a quote just for the electrical piece and so the the total on the summary sheet includes the United Electric along with the cool CIS quot as a total were you scared no um will be United Electric estimate goes along with the cool yeah so you're recommending yeah so um M and school were within I think just PA like around $2,000 difference I am actually recommending um M which was the higher of the two um simply because there was a little bit of a
003difference in the um warranty a 5year compressor versus a onee um and then also M um the the unit they anticipate the units to be down for about a 24hour period of time which means we would need to have an alternate location for storing anything that's in the units at that time um so they do have a um refrigerated trailer that they would provide provide to us at no additional costs as well so so if I'm careing um better warranty better service potentially because we're local and um there is a a benefit of essentially no downtime where we have we don't really have uh food spoilage I mean yeah it's it's either the trailer that could be provided or we would might have to rent okay a trailer storage yeah so in in the um
004MOS the MOs includes electrical pool or yeah then I think if you look at the comparison summary it will kind of list any the warranty information um as well as the exclusions I support that recommendation personally Sam what do you think uh yeah if I'm as long as I'm reading this correctly that seems M seems like a great decision David you got anything from online uh no works for me all right uh my opinion is is about the same as well so I think we can move that forward Monday night the whole thing no the only other thing that we don't have another purchase on here but I wanted to give a heads up that you'll see the um cost of educator Effectiveness come through and that is over 20,000 and we do get reimbursed
005for that through the DPI Grant so um educator Effectiveness is what we to evaluate teachers and it's a big there and then reimb well yes we're reimbursed te here uh any questions on that all right seeing none we will go to uh budget discussion thank you thank you thank you um so the final numbers came in for the different things that we were waiting on so we have our final um property value amount and the final equation Aid amount and we have our student count so those were the last pieces that we needed to finish the revenue limit worksheet so the final copy of that is in um the agenda and there were a few changes not anything big so um property values increased just a small amount more but still the overall increase for
006the district was 6% and then our equal ization Aid decreased by $55,000 so that was a tiny amount compared to what the increase was um so hey uh Sarah just uh uh I'm not seeing if you're presenting from a uh presentation I'm not seeing it right now there you okay appreciate it sorry I didn't um the biggest change oh yeah you're welcome the biggest change was that we had been projecting a decline of 60 FTE for students and we actually came in at 101 left um so that number was a bigger number than what we were anticipating um and the way that the formula works we have that hold harmless exemption and so the revenue actually increased just a little bit in this first year but that will impact Us in years following so bottom
007line once we got all of the final numbers um the revenue for fund 10 increased by just under $133,000 otherwise the budget dat the same from last month um I in included a budget booklet here which I will include at the board meeting as well I made a couple changes to it already but it'll be pretty much the same and it has some more information and some more explanations for different things about the budget and school Finance if anybody's interested in reading that and think if I have anything else to add um I think if you just look at the final budget though for DPI like this is what we've been looking at each month just with those changes to the fund 10 revenue and the final amount for our debt service I should say
008that changed just a little bit as well yeah so the DPI you said the DPI what were the DPI changes specifically to to that Revenue limit yeah um specifically if we look at line well the first thing is if you look on the very first page and there those two boxes that show the school FTE you see we went from 3 345 to 3304 so we dropped 101 that was the first big change I'm sorry I'm sorry I wish I had a way to like present but I have to find it yeah so it's these two boxes so on the top box 35 okay got it so okay those are the changes that so that directly impacts our Revenue because we get that number multiplied by the per pupil amount and then over in that
009box to the right the green box 3373 that's the number that you use to calculate the per pupil Aid that's like the categorical Aid so that went down as well and then um property values here those went up they'd already increased quite a bit and they increased an additional $5.4 million um after the estimate estimate that we got in July but the overall increases still about 6% and then if we go down the increase so it increased um by 6% though now we're at this number here good you mean like the total amount that is coming in when you take account how many students there are versus no the total property values for the district so property values went up yeah across the district they went up six% on average and then if you if
010you look at the different municipalities it varies on so that would cause our mid rate to go down right so the way the weird thing is all of them should Pro I think all of the property taxes would go down a little bit this year some though may go up depending on how the assessments work out um if we look then at you look at 12a on page two that shows the equalization Aid amount and that amount changed just a little bit as well so it's a big increase over last year I think we talked about that at one of our meetings because a couple things the state put a little bit more funding into Equalization Aid and then because Milwaukee Public Schools um lost some of their aid that put it back in the
011pot and we ended up with a pretty big increase this year okay and the estimate compared to the final was um the same except it decreased by uh $555,000 it was really close Sarah uh just a comment I know that we have the budget hearing on Monday and uh you probably live and breathe the spreadsheet so um you you you you don't uh remember where things are because you know where things are but uh for the benefit of the budget hearing if there's a way that you can um Design This to highlight those lines when you're speaking of them because there's a lot of numbers on here and and I too love spreadsheets and nobody can follow mine um I just comment that it might be helpful for uh the uh inexperienced Observer and and
012me for that matter uh for for you to try to highlight those sections during the budget presentation uh if if that's possible um thanks yeah I agree for sure and I also have I have a presentation for Monday so I won't make you look at the spreadsheet on Monday okay that's even better so I think that those were the only lines that actually changed but it did bring our mill rate then to $599 okay any further questions C are we um are we discussing all the slides or um as as far as what's in the booklet or Union on Monday well no is that all that's up to you I can talk about it if you want me to to I but I I don't have to I guess I guess I was a little
013confused um why under the um draft budget publication uh why are we not budgeting anything for the capital projects fund so we well a couple reasons we haven't identified anything that we're going to use that money specifically for this year so that's a good point that doesn't mean that we can't use that but some of that has been paused a little bit because we're going through this big facility study um that is a good point I mean would would it be I mean capital I guess said Capital project would be different from repairs and maintenance standing right right and so some of that we do through fund 10 and then this fund 46 is separate from that and we have used a little bit of those funds before but um we haven't we haven't identified
014any projects that we would use those at this point we're kind of in a holding pattern as far as our project uh Pro capital projects for next year is what this would bean correct for the year we're in right now for the year we haven't identified an immediate need for let's say a cooler that goes down or aside from our previous discussion well we have like our regular um we have a regular maintenance and operations budget this is kind of for above and beyond that like if we had something big that we needed done that's really what those funds are for good question Sam you got any I don't think so that was a the I did have one other quick question there the total expenditures on the same sheet the total expenditures and other
015financing uses um we have audited un audited and budget uh for across the board there there was quite a bit of a a jump a difference between the 2023 and 2024 years um you mean from this year and last year yes y right so the bulk of that I mean we we provided a 3.75% increase on all wages we um started a new support staff compensation model which did come at a cost and then our health insurance had a 7% increase that's a lot of it um transportation went up by I hate to even say I might say the wrong number but I think it was like 4 and a half% so we had increases um can you I I don't mean to put you on the spot this interf fund transfer um of like
016six 6 million um we had to pay something out I take it that is the transfer that goes to front 27 which is ucation okay very good and just trying to look at the booklet so especially um I'm seeing the I'm trying wrap my mind around the voucher impact on the mill rate um I think it's slide eight and and I think your explanation basically says that state aid we you know the district it's a lotted certain amount of state aid and then out of that we the state doesn't order us they remove the portion that is due via vouchers within the district right so it's that's coming out of dollars that we would normally see as as far as revenue and then then the mill rate is then ajust adjusted for that same amount
017because we still have to Levy that amount locally yeah um but that just means that there's just less of it that we okay right so I think what I was trying to show here is that when we say our mill rate is 5.99 a126 of that goes toward those full vouchers so that full amount doesn't go toward operations of the district so it was about $4.2 million the vouchers yeah 4.2 and so we actually will pay that great thank you David any comments or questions um no um and I'm sure it's in here somewhere Sarah you're going to forecast what U deficit is and um our proposed uh mill rate for next year I assume those are going to be punch lines on Monday night yeah definitely and so the the proposed or the projected
018deficit is $5.4 million and the middle rate will be 599 okay and in years past when we've discussed the 599 and this is going back to what uh as I recall Tony's comments and they were they were much more informed than mine uh he always wanted to take it back to what we told the taxpayers at the last referendum and how much we're setting aside for a a rainy day um and the 599 is I believe Sarah and Jared well below what were allowed and I'm not trying to say increase it uh I think we're all going to be talking about an operational referendum but uh there were a lot of um very intentional and Intelligent Decisions made over the last three or four years um with the referendum that passed in how to uh
019uh what do you want to say minimize the the speed at which we're going to have to feel some significant pain and I I put it that way Sarah and Jared to ask the question not that I have anything wrong with 599 uh nor should the taxpayers for that matter but what are other considerations to 599 that we allowed within the law we're allowed within their last referendum and that we're allowed for proper proper fiscal planning in the event that a referendum doesn't pass uh could we do $6.99 I'm not advocating it I'm asking the question what are our options when we're talking about levers here I understand the spreadsheet and where we arrive at the number but uh we can put some of those funds into I'm going to say 27 Sarah but you're
020going to correct me you know that there's there's options here that we should consider as opposed to just trying to fund uh fund 10 um and and uh given that Tony was more of the expert on this as far as my experience goes and Jared and Sarah you're even more so than Tony uh tell us what our options were as far as how you arrived at the 599 and what that means to us as we're considering future um uh planning efforts uh both fiscal and planning Etc yes um so I think what I would start with say is that the F the mill rate is really set by the state so the only way that a school district can change that is through a referendum or you can Levy extra funds for debt which we're
021doing or fund 80 which is the community community services fund that fund is outside of the revenue limit um other than that the only way to change the mill rate or increase the tax levy is through a referendum so we can't we don't have a whole lot of control over what that final mill rate number is we have a minimal amount of control over that um the other thing that I would say is the mill rate itself we all districts forever used that if like that's what people pay for property taxes is kind of like I trying to think like that was the gate that we used but it's changed a lot in the last few years because property values have increased so much so when you look at the total Levy for the school
022district and I have this in the slide for Monday but I don't have it for tonight but if you look at the school or the tax levy for the last like six years it's remained really steady it's changed just a little bit this year it's 200,000 roughly than last less than last year so what that means is that while the mill rate's going down what the average person is paying property taxes probably hasn't changed that much I don't know if that's helpful despite that the property values have gone off right right so like where your house used to maybe be worth 150,000 and now they're valuing it at 300,000 and the mill rate used to be 8.98 and now it's 599 some people probably have seen a tax increase that's yeah and and I'm gonna
023say that well there's I I don't want to say that I understand Mill rates that would be that would be a real stretch uh let me just say that I recognize that just because my assessed value goes up doesn't necessarily mean that my taxes go up unless my assess value goes up uh compared to everybody else who's been reassessed uh or or the total taxable of properties available in the district but um you're just saying that between all the calculations in the spreadsheet and our Revenue limit per student and we divide it by the value of the property the $3 billion doll we end up at 5.99 and we're kind of locked there and uh doing anything above you know to 6.25 or 6.5 to squirrel away a a half a a point in the
024levy for a rainy day just isn't an option it may have been in the past because we were operating under possibly different circumstances or under past uh referendums but as far as we're concerned today this is just simple math we can take in so much revenue and we divide it by so much assessed uh value in the district and that yields 5.99 and there's almost zero adjustment that we can make to that that's just a just a definitive matth math fact that's correct okay um as far as rainy day is concerned um I I think I think what what the graph on page seven is kind of depicting is that we're spending um uh fund balance in 23 24 and 24 25 and that's son not ideal um and and I just for the record
025I just wanted to say that I I have vocal the desire to um review building budgets and see where there could be some concessions if possible or there should be some tightening of the belt if possible in the event that a referendum does not pass that we can keep uh as many staff and resources in the classroom as long as possible so what's our what's our budgets for our building I'm going to give you a rough number but I would say roughly for the actual physical buildings we have it's around 600,000 you Got7 million GI I I realize that I I realize that I'm that's that the fact isn't lost on me I just the point we cut the entire bu budget 600,000 let's say Sarah's wrong and it's 800,000 we still have $6 million
026in deficit the budgets I understand we're going with this and I understand tightening our belt right but 70 80% of our budget is Staff it it's going to hit staff I guess I I I take a step back and I want to be cautious about and and at least have a discussion at some point about it and that that's all I'm suus totally agree but we cut that other 20% we cut whatever we still are going to cut staff it's just the reality of the situation we've got enough of the deficit here we can shut down every other Penny we spend we're still doing with st uh Fred if I may um when I was in private industry for a large petrochemical company there wasn't a year that didn't go by where the CEOs from
027Houston walked in and told my boss to shave his maintenance budget by 10% when covid hit uh and I'm on the YMCA board the CEO went to his staff and said okay everybody tighten your belts everybody's got to figure out a way to save 25% in the spirit of working towards what we know is a deficit budget um it's not that I I think that there's a lot of meat on this bone um but I'd be interested I I think uh as Craig is is saying in asking we understand that you're not going to save your way to 5 million dollar savings but if if if every school was set it was told find 10% to shave out of your budget at least it'd be a good faith e effort uh which is frequently um
028uh attempted in Private Industry I recognize we're not going to get the five million and we could throw up our hands and say well if we're not going to get the five then why bother but at the same time coming from Private Industry when when austerity measures are necessary you implement austerity measures okay you just don't run faster at the cliff and I I don't know where the happy medium is there I I I don't want to start you know not fixing things that are broken and putting uh yellow tape over uh water fountains and uh uh not fixing trip hazards on the carpet and not mowing the lawn or repairing a roof um at the same time I don't think it's entirely appropriate to say well we can't get to the Six Million so
029let's just keep on going the way we've been going and Craig I don't know if that uh Echoes your sentiment or Waters them down I just it's an appropriate way to look at it if I may gentlemen like I I want to share with you that's what we've been doing already you know um there's a reason we have deferred maintenance there's a reason we haven't been doing curriculum and there's a reason we haven't been doing a lot of other things like professional development it is because we've been shaving it's just we don't come to the board or the community and say hey we cut a whole bunch here you know we just try to make it work so we can operate and you can see the parking lot I mean you can see where where
030I mean you can see where we made the cuts yeah right I would highlight that from my perspective Jared that that's an acceptable statement from you to me and and I trust that that's actually what's been going on it wouldn't be inappropriate on my perspective to highlight that fact and that satisfies me it Craig may still want to dig deeper but I just want to hear that we've been doing what we can with the dials that we can turn to to slow this descent and and that I I'm good with that that comment along with Fred's I have no others but I I just wanted to make sure that we highlight that uh from my perspective and from the perspective of a taxpayer that we're not being irresponsible and saying oh don't worry about it
031the taxpayers are going to bail us out when we totally run out of money um the only place that we really haven't been doing that is Staffing um and um you know since I've gotten here we've also tried to just deal with Staffing by uh cutting to get the other things done that we wanted to get done taking face- to-face supports from the classroom moving them to other supports we could have just saved money in those areas but I don't think that we would where we are today with some of the progress we've been making if we had made that choice so that's the only choice that we really could have made differently to get us into a different position um you know the the the building budgets themselves are miniscule could we could we
032do less sure I mean I can always like I said I can operate with $7 million less too it just takes a lot of cutting programs cutting staff and and getting into that it just tells you know you guys just have to tell me what you want I guess the spirit of my the spirit of my comments are um I think I think David TR Trader did a pretty good job of summing things up a little bit um but the spirit of my comments are that I I feel like you know it's nice to be in on that part of of the loop on those kinds of things as well as I mean to to know that these are the areas that that you're focusing on and and making some changes budget wise um and
033and at least spurring some sort of a conversation that that um you know the fiscal committee has gets gets a look at when it comes to those dollars and uh otherwise it it just they're just numbers on a page and it doesn't mean a heck of a lot to to to people if they don't know the efforts that you are making to to be responsible and and that's that's pretty much it so I think Craig I think I asked you at a couple meetings I just need to know what exactly that you'd like to see I'm happy to provide it and I think where we had left is we were going to meet one on one and then I don't know how like that fell off somewhere yeah things get very crazy so right but
034I'm certainly happy to sit down and we can look at that or bring something here I just I would prefer that we bring something here but it's after the fact at this point you know now now it's a matter of hey this is the this is a budget I had been asking some me and I'm still not clear though what what you would discretionary spending in the building budgets is what it was asking so you want to see line items like I I'm not sure right but I think we're beating a dead horse but I just saying at least some sort of a review somewhere I would prer and and Craig I'll I'll I don't I'll Echo those but I still look at bigger buckets Sarah if there was a specific cost center for classroom
035supplies or cleaning supplies or uh I don't know what line items or cost centers you have I'm I'm certainly wouldn't be interested in reviewing any one of them down to the point of which item we purchase from which vendor for what price per unit but it' sure be nice to see that if the budget last year was $50,000 that this year's budget is $45,000 and if that's on a cost center basis um I'd be happy with that Craig may want more granularity but this goes back to the the previous example I gave when the CEOs from Houston showed up in in my boss's office and said shave your maintenance budget by 10% they didn't care what he wasn't paying for whether it was Grease whether it was bearings or whether it was you know paint
036they just wanted to see a reduction of 10% um that's my world uh and and I would be happy and interested in seeing that I'll say similar to Craig uh I don't need to go any deeper than that but uh Craig may have more interest in that than I than I do so that that's just my two cents on the subject um and Jared did you say it's happening I I trust that it is different variance report is what I'm asking so we do the variance report each month which do kind of show that it shows the last three years in each object and source so I guess like what in addition to that are one of the things that we established when I and you on this committee you and I sat down we
037put start to put a calendar together one of the things that was calendar were our large budget contract one of these contracts would come up renewal we would have those and we started talking about how to walk back two to three months before those would come up for Renewal so that we can say okay if this is if you know our heating air conditioning whatever be up to renewal in May in February we could say hey look we know this is coming up in May here are the dollars we're talking about and stuff like this and we have those big contracts then you could start looking at those and saying okay if we need to shake 10% here's some of the bigger numbers that we have we're going through like this those are the things
038that you know this committee can look at and I think should we had talked about you know doing that rather than getting into line items of the pencil budget we can take a look at those really big contracts that we have that's where the bulk of our money is going to go besides stat and look at those sorts of things and again that's would be my recommendation is look at our contracts what are what are our largest vendors and you know what are we spending on them how long is the contract there other options we do that when the busing contract comes up there's no reason we can't do that with anything else so Sam I want to get to Sam he had his hand up here and wanted to go num yeah no no
039um when I raised my hand originally I was going to say I thought David summed it up really well um from the discussion that I've heard over the past couple of meeting uh fcal meetings we've had um I do agree with Craig uh you know it would it would be nice to have that information even if the information is about a small amount of money and the big scheme of things I think there's an element of stewardship and governance if you want to call it that you know I think there's a philosophy of stewardship in governance where it's good to have the ability to get your eyes on that not for the sake of you know picking away at things but just for the sake of being able to see it I think that's it's
040always good um but I think the way that David put it really saying like hey like General categories like what's the expenditure for in this area in this area um in addition to some of those larger uh those larger expenditures like Brett was talking about I think that would be helpful again if nothing else as uh kind of a a good faith show not just like in the context of the board but also in the context of the community and the board and everyone I think that having that open communication like I said a few months ago when I started I think Clarity is something that goes a long way for people feeling comfortable and really at the end of the day the board the administration and the community it's about a relationship and you
041know clear communication is where a good relationship lies so and thank you for the comments I guess I got two questions just to kind of wrap this up a little bit in Ence of time but uh two questions that I have coming out of this um first and foremost I agree with both of you or all three of you actually that that uh David summed it up really nice uh so my question first would be to Sam and Craig if if it was put into bigger bucket items right you know year over year this is what office supplies were this is what paper was whatever it does that suffice or does it have to be a line by line Craig you were before saying oh the big buckets are fine right well well what I
042think we're talking about two different things the the um I I believe David Traders uh comment was to light items but not down to like like the individual purchase um items that we're talking about like we don't need to know we spent x amount of money on on mops last month yeah Dave called it a bucket I I you're calling it a line but I think we're saying this I think we're saying the same thing uh we're getting closer okay the um uh it would be nice to see it broken out by building you know so that this is what each building ends up spending sure those dollars onuh and and and go from there and then my my next question would be to Sarah then because I'm a big fan of not jumping over
043dollars to save pennies right so is putting together something like that going to cost you additional staff 20 hours a week in overtime I just I just need to understand exactly what you want so if you're asking for something that looks like the variance report only it's broken out by building yes I can do that that would not be a difficult ask um other than that I I guess I still am not completely clear on what you're asking for sure sure I mean I'd imagine that uh building administrator submit a budget every year that's cor okay what does that look like I mean that's where I would start that's kind of what I'm would like to look at when they break that down what does that look like the what administrators are submitting to the
044B business office for their budgets and sir do you have any other questions on do you you want to just see the budget or you want it to be like want see their budget okay I think we can do that okay thank you Sarah thank you Sam and Dave for that matter uh we're going to move forward then uh to the referendum planning discussion this be fun um the subcommittee met last Friday and so I thought today we could go through what we had talked about in that meeting to kind of set the stage and then also let you know what came out of that meeting so um I included the the slideshow that we looked at during that meeting and if we're looking at this first slide that I just brought up this is
045kind of a breakdown of some of the larger expenditures that the district had year-over-year this definitely it's not all the expenses but it's some of the big things that go into like the overall increase from year to year so we have this wonky year in there for covid where things were really weird and really there's at least three years that have been impacted by covid and eter so some of it is a little bit weird but you can see a pattern I mean wages go up every year we know that benefits go up every year we know that Transportation goes up except for that weird Co year um you utilities have been steadily increasing and then our transfer for fund 27 has been steadily increasing as well so those kind of big buckets of money
046play a large role in why you see a bottom line increase from year to year if we look at the next slide um this slide was just kind of breaking out what we have for Revenue kind of like what we were talking about earlier for this year so we have a history of what the district has received through the revenue limit so the equalization Aid amount which has I mean for a long time it was pretty much the same and then it started going up a little bit and now this year is a high year it's hard to say how next year will look um the overall fund 10 tax levy went up in these years here because we had the um operational referendum and then you see it's gone back down again and when
047we go to this voucher column that's kind of what I was getting at earlier it looks like oh yeah like our fun 10 tax levy has gone down but what run join the meeting what we actually have available for um operations has gone down as well so I think um that's what I was getting at with this slide I got distracted but the 10year increase in Revenue without like we have these years that went up the kids the the um referendum but if we look at 2015 and then we look at 2024 it's a 5% increase and we all know that inflation has been significantly higher than that and then here's what I was talking about before I did have this line so this is our mill rate history and our total tax levy history
048so mill rate is going down quite a lot the total tax levy is staying pretty consistent and then I put in here this is our the mill rate comparison for um districts that are surrounding us and it's last year's data because we don't have this year's data available quite yet but um you can kind of see where Watertown Falls and where the average is we are not way out of line but we are definitely lower than the average and then I had the fund balance history again and then these were just my notes but I put them in here just as we're thinking about planning for the future we know that last year we came in at a $3.2 million deficit this year we're projecting about 5.4 million and so if we're just thinking about
049next year even if we give a um 3% increase in wages going to be at least another million dollars um added onto the budget um that's about where CPI is running right now it's 33 and a half% so just to think toward the future if we end up at a $5 million deficit this year we can know we're going to be at least at6 million next year so that's what we talked talked about and then we also talked about the idea of when we go to referendum this time going for a recurring referendum instead of a non-recurring referendum and the strategy behind that would be as our deficits are getting bigger kind of gives you a bigger and bigger Cliff every time a referendum ends so last time our referendum ended at $3.9 million this
050time a referendum that would be a stepup referendum for five years would probably end at eight million so that's a huge amount it's becoming a big percentage of the overall budget so if we go out for recurring referendum that would close that Gap so that's not saying we would never ever need more money but it's saying that if we were to go to referendum in eight years it would be for a smaller amount than what we would be asking for if we had done a non-recurring and so we were talking about going to a recurr referendum for $7 million a year which would be slightly more than what we think we would need in the first two years and then probably write about what we would need for year three maybe year four and then
051hopefully we can with some careful planning and preparation and reductions in budget we could carry that referendum out for a long time potentially eight years 10 years depending on how um we managed our budget so that is what we were talking about at planning or the subit of planning to which everybody agreed and then the other part of that that we talked about was utilizing the debt that fall off which we talked about a little bit here at fcal before so we know that we have been prepaying some debt that debt almost paid off as that debt falls off it leaves a little bit of room in the mill rate and so it would make the mill rate impact of a $7 million recurring referendum 7% and that is what the planning committee the sub
052commmittee up plan committee recommending 70 cents per thousand 70 cents on the m so yes 70 cents instead of 5.99 we'll be looking at um 669 which we still have this below last year's average correct and definitely lower than the historic average just a sorry um just a clarification uh if you're talking uh let's say interest rates Bankers like to talk points if we're talking mill rate is it dollars or is it uh ju I just want to be consistent I I mean I I know what it is but on your previous slide Sarah you had dollars um and and if dollars the language part of it is is just there's very few taxpayers who see see anything on this except for my taxes are going to go up so here you're repr represented as
0535.99 yet you just said 70 cents and so I'm not saying that this is a problem it's just semantics but we we need to be consistent we need to be accurate because we get burnt on misstatements that aren't entirely non-factual but people like to try to hang us on well you said mine was only going to go up 70 Cent no we said it was going to go up 70 points that's not 70 cents so I I we have to be careful in that and and I'm going to look to you and Jared to be the the uh what do you want to call the the guidance on that just to make sure that we're using the right terminology because it does get down to that level of nitty-gritty when we're putting out documents to
054the taxpayers as to what we're asking for so I just want to make sure that we're being consistent in our terminology I hate to be a a Wonka on that stuff but uh it it does matter I think the thing that you might be needing clarification on is they both uh if you use the terminology per Mill right so 70 cents per Mill and 5.99 per Mill Jared I I agree it's just that even last time uh five seven years ago people said no you lied that's not what you guys put out that's not what you told us and you go back to the document and we did exactly what we said we were going to do we didn't lie but there's uh I'll say a significant portion of the population who thinks that we
055pulled a fast one on them because we confused them with a bunch of lingo so what you don't want to do is is get into confusing lingo okay I just I'm letting I'm letting you and Melissa know you and Melissa and Sarah know make sure you don't do that okay well I'm telling you that trying trying trying to do that is is almost impossible because um for each person right it's not going to necessarily come out exactly the same uh and that's because we're only part of the taxing entity how much uh the assessment goes up or down in their own home uh all those things make a difference so people will have more than enough to want to say you did me wrong and we're never going to be able to be 100% accurate
056for them well can I suggest something yeah pleas perhaps maybe I mean we kind of have to we have to kind of break this down mil like in a way Mill Reids for dummies in a way and if I can understand what what uh David is trying to explain is like maybe just a just a small little worksheet like included on the um on any type of uh materials that are being marketed out there that kind of explain okay um your mill rate figure that out you take the your your assessed value of your house and you divide that by a th multiply that by your mill rate that's what you're expected to pay in your in your taxes and you can take the difference of the two and you could calculate what that increased
057cost will be and and at least then you'll know but that transparency is probably more welcomed that than people that don't have that understanding trying to figure it out on their own what I'm saying what I'm saying is on on top of that um the the the thing is is you can tell them based on today if you do this it's fine but next year when you get your taxes and somebody's going to say I got my taxes and it went way up more than that because we did the calculations and everything and it's like well yes but we're only one part of the entity your assessment may your assess value may have changed the amount of property within the district may have changed there's so many things that we are not in charge of
058that that makes that literally impossible if if I may Jared on this subject on this subject uh Jared Craig David for the three of us who've never ever been misunderstood entire ever in our entire life ever uh I will leave this to Melissa to craft the message but uh Craig I agree with yours uh Jared yours as well but uh let's let Melissa do her job on this and make sure it passes the Layman's version of the message because no you're right Jared no matter what we say will be wrong depending on certain point of views to quote Star Wars sorry about that um but uh um I I just that's that this is why Melissa and whatever entity we uh uh decide to hire to help us with this uh is going to be
059important to make sure it's not just a bunch of legal mumbo jumbo to confuse somebody uh other than that my comments on this uh Jared Sarah is and and and Mike and Fred is that we have a good story to tell I mean it doesn't matter which one of these slides you put up there um we're certainly not being the irresponsible ones with the the uh assets of our taxpayers it's just a matter of trying to convince them that it's just not enough I mean and they know it's not enough because their gas bill went up and their uh auto insurance went up and their rent went up and their groceries went up and hey congratulations your Mill rates going up too that's why they call it inflation um it it's I'm not saying it's
060an easy sell I'm just saying is that we don't have anything to hide go ahead yeah and and I'm hoping that part of the part of the um educational piece in that is that um is the explanation of how uh inflation works in the school district where certain things have increased that have are outside of our control and um you know like like Transportation costs and you know uh just paper costs and whatever the case may be those things are increasing and and despite our best attempts to try to uh to adjust for that they're just they're they're out of our control uh any other comments or questions uh under referendum planning uh Sarah I think you did a good job putting this together I I truly appreciate it um um fret or excuse me
061uh Mike um and I wasn't at uh planning I haven't read their minutes um Sarah you'd mentioned the bogey what we're going to ask for um can you can you tell me just a couple of bullet points on why not higher why not lower that's a good point so I would say we we don't want to go lower because we are hoping that this ass will get us out for quite a we and so really this is a fairly conservative ask if we're going to do that so we're talking about doing that in conjunction with really looking at the budget really trying to make reductions where needed and really get this to carry us as long as possible possible it is a little higher than what we think we're going to need right away and
062that's on purpose just because if we came in right exactly at what we thought we were going to need for next year then we would be behind right from the beginning so we'd go in a little bit higher and then hopefully really get that to stretch out for as long as we can does that answer your question um it answers mine I I would put some more meat on it for those who either either for Melissa's benefit for the the one pager or for people who might show up at the budget hearing uh this year at at the polls or start uh you know putting yard signs on that says vote no on referendum question two um so we're going to have to put some some real numbers behind that and some uh solid uh
063examples not not just generality Sarah I I I me I'm comfortable with your answer I I just I want us to be meeting this head-on fully armed for some of the questions we're going to get so this reoccurring referendum um that that continues in perpetuity then or is that correct it gets added into the revenue Li it okay so unless the district decides to I mean obviously that's not going to carry us through forever you know so the district is going to have to say like let's just say eight years 10 years out we need another reoccurring referendum so that would just stack on top of this one right but it's going to be and we talked about that and that's a great question Craig and it's going to be a much smaller ask so
064like right now when we talked about it you know with with increasing budgets and things like that uh what did it go up roughly 4 million deficit 3 million somewhere in there uh just in five years and all of a sudden we're asking for seven right per year and we're hoping at eight nine 10 years whatever the year is when this does fall off instead of having to come back and say now instead of seven we need 15 for open whe to come back and say okay seven was good but can we get one additional million or whatever it is to had for another 10 or whatever it is it's smaller ask instead of going the full board right it'll be a a little less so I mean it is part of the discussion then
065tonight whether or not that's appropriate I mean whether or not this committee feels it's appropriate well I think that's what we were discussing more than Communications I think we're discussing is this the plan because we don't have a whole plan yet this was the plan that came out of the sube and this was the way that they wanted to proceed but then it's for discussion okay I I would go ahead Sor I was gonna say Craig uh if if planning who's probably given more thought to the overall impact of this than just the numbers they're looking at Services they're looking at uh the maintenance of the buildings they're looking at the Strategic plan of the district I would think that the planning committee had the more holistic view on this than than we do we're
066just kind of the numbers people here but I don't think it needs our seal of approval to go to the full board for uh all nine of us to ratify it but I'm glad that it's being presented to us so that we can understand the intricacies of it if we said that we disagreed I don't think that it matters much the planning committee might Trump us on this one in my opinion and obviously the full board would Trump all of us um so if the planning is be if planning is behind this and it meets Sarah's and Jared's uh financial needs to run the district I'm comfortable with the way that it's been presented uh but that's just me if if you have additional questions that's not my position to tell you to be satisfied
067or not um I think it goes to the full board for more or less the same discussion but Sarah had to present it to us just as a formality if nothing else if I may also give a little bit more context maybe for you Craig too um just just to here are all the things we talked about um you know just again to to reiterate why recurring and why this much um we wanted to make sure that we had a conservative ask because we knew that we were also going to be asking for Capital uh whether that's to restructure our district or even just to get some things done uh we know that we need to fix some things because we've been deferring maintenance so we want to go lower on the operational pair that
068with some cuts um you know especially if if if money doesn't come in from the state uh and and try to be a little leaner there because we know um rather soon in the future we're going to ask for Capital Improvements too so that was part of the reason of the lower ask the reason we're asking for recurring over time and not Sunset is because we did a a sunset uh last time uh and uh you know now we have to basically ask for you know not just 3.8 million which is what we ended at uh we have to ask for uh basically seven uh and then seven then eight and eight and then once that money's bore out then we would have to ask for another four or five million on top of the
069eight and it gets to be too expensive do in any one time so if we can do it now and we can get out uh that uh eight years or so then um we will be able to uh you know discuss a little bit more at that time probably a referendum ask that's a lot less than 12 15 million annually right and so that's part of that reason for that ask but the other thing is because we know that we uh have a possible uh 10e sequence coming up of different ask to try to get to a more um efficient model uh we we just really had to think about how can we do this as efficiently um and as um conservatively as possible so that's where we ended up with what we did hope
070that fills in some of the Gap yeah brother yeah well I mean I mean my I have I have some reservations about the um reoccurring referendum there's a lot of lot of things can change in our district in the next 10 years and you know I just don't know what those would be but um I don't know what those would be to have uh to have our cost go down that much I mean costs can really keep Rising I haven't uh seen anything that uh takes it back to much much lower cost we're talking in the millions of dollars of cost um and and honestly when you see other school districts do this uh and they keep doing a sunsetting one and a sunsetting one they get themselves into really a a really bad place
071and I don't think it's really good fiscal management because because cost keep going up they have to do a large a very very large ask um and uh it becomes almost self- Dee us and they end up having to totally change programming that's what fort had to do Jared with this ask is this um I know with the last one this is the upper limit we can we can take less we just can't take more or we said they asked and we have to take that amount well if we take less um we're coming back sooner right I mean unless unless things change dramatically at the state level and they start giving us a lot more money which I don't see happening um I I've got 15 years uh almost 20 years of data that
072shows they're they're not fund they're not funding schools to the level that we need right um so we could ask for less but we would be coming back sooner no we get we get go ahead what I missed I missed what you're saying saying is I say we ask if we put this ask right and it passes maybe I'm use the wrong term we could Levy left can't we so the district the district always has the option to LY left but my understanding is that let's say we asked for $7 million and then we levied less than that you can't go back to seven after that to your point if things change we can Levy less right so we're not set at this and said oh we've got this money and we don't know what
073to do with it now because we've put in the work from p and these efficiencies have gained us all of this so we can pull back on this if things change and we end up having less a need for but remember when we do that then then we limit ourselves in the future for we can do that Sam so if I'm understanding you correctly let's say in some kind of like crazy scenario hob Mele Takes Over America he just decides to invade us and he gets rid of everything and all of a sudden all of the costs start going down hopefully uh we could wish um we can always lower things we can adjust it as we go on back down this is a conservative estimate that's what you're saying correct but once you lower
074you can't go back back that makes sense always let L you don't have to LY to the math yeah sure sure okay that makes sense and then one other question really quick I'm new uh and the fastest way to stop being stupid about something just ask a stupid question what's the difference between recurring and non-recurring for a levy rate because you guys have been talking about that a lot I think I understand it but I want to make sure I do it doesn't change the levy rate much off right off the bat but it change it put into the formula in a different way so when you look at that Revenue limit worksheet if you do non-recurring they add the funds right into your base revenue and it's in there forever but it will eventually
075be eroded by declining enrollment because it goes down every year right now the way that we're declining enrollment unless that stops if you ask for non-recurring it gets put in lower on the revenue limit as like an exemption it's like a one time this is your dollar amount and it is that dollar amount that doesn't change so it doesn't NE neily change what your mill rate is but it can change over time just because that base Revenue will change over time okay if that makes sense but then you know if you ask for four years in year five you have nothing I will say this I have my reservations I'm not really sure how I feel about a recurring referendum at this moment my my gut tells me and my my financial Acumen tell tells
076me that is probably the best fiscal decision we can make for our school district to move forward with a uh reoccurring referendum but I just I still have my reservations about it and I I you know what I don't know how I feel so two two comments and both actually right right to you but but for everybody to hear um I totally get what you're saying and and and and a comment before about said no school district ever which was funny and I get it and I'm working at it too um so I I'm going to say that uh I don't know how old you are I'm not going to give my exact age but that AR card is coming pretty quick right and I and and to this point in my life I have
077not seen enough of a change for me to say inflation isn't real things don't get more expensive over time you know things like that uh so to me it it makes sense to reoccurring and ask for Less in 8 or 10 years than than to do a Sunset and ask for more in five so that's my opinion um I had something else I was going to say oh here's an idea are you comfortable saying hey that's you can think about it right we move forward recommendation for sure okay that's what I was I just I'm I'm still reserved about it though because I don't really don't I don't know think that I didn't I didn't expect a I didn't expect recurring referendum I don't know why I didn't think of that uh that I would
078wouldn't expect that but um okay no it blew me away Friday too it took me a second to wrap my brain and but I just don't know what the appetite from the community is on that just I just don't know it's never been at to before yeah I mean honestly I think the best thing to do is have a conversation with the community about it get people talking about what they would prefer what they're interested in have people you know start to understand it encourage people to talk to their friends and family about it because I think that I mean when I talk to people I talk to people from all different sorts of walks of life from different income strata from different political backgrounds and people generally speaking they want good education for their
079kids and they understand the importance of you know the importance of investing in that I think people want to make sure that they're investing in that the way things are being invested is good and I think that people want to make sure that the style that they're investing in is is also sufficient if that makes sense so I think that having that conversation getting that information out there it that's going to be the biggest piece I think that the stuff that we talked about previously Jared about talking to the community getting Community input and opening that up as much as possible is is going to be huge well yeah and to that point though too you know going along the lines of a reoccurring referendum what might be beneficial in your in your educational piece
080that you might put out there is to say here's how we've been able to make your previous referendum stretch as long as possible and and here's how we feel we can make this call as long as possible as well so here's our track record please judge us on that yeah agreed and I think that falls back on what DAV was kind of saying earlier right making sure communication is is stepping forward with it right Qui it was simp version of what you said but yeah I I I agree with the communication pieces uh you know 100% um I just want to make sure that this is the this is the right ask this is the path that um the subcommittee put us on um we shared we were going to share this with you guys
081um and then if you approved of it we would uh inform the board that this is the direction we're going what we'll be looking for from the board uh in October or Monday I I would say is um a confirmation or a resolution to seek ballot language right and then Sarah and I will work with coral and Brady to get the ballot language ready for November that gives us a really good long Runway between November and um April and it's really not even April right right it's like mid-February because people do absentee voting and that kind of stuff to really get the message out um the the longer we delay or or do those kinds of things too um we could still get the message out but I think it would be really effective if
082we could stay on this timeline so if there's something that you think we should change uh we would really need to hear that tonight but um you know I I I think I actually do think that this is a pretty good path it's not the first path of choice I had but I understand it and I think it's a really good one and Sarah really endorses it so I appreciate her uh words uh as we met last so all right so I think I from what I'm understanding we're going to move forward uh with that resolution looking for language I appreciate the discussion uh moving on uh we're going to talk about the Alward Street property uh was it was it Jared that wanted to talk about that or was that you s i I
083can talk about it but uh Sarah uh also knows my backup plan in case uh I I get uh whid here so I'm trying to uh balance a couple of hats my uh son was at regionals and now she he's getting dropped off at Robotics and I'm trying to cook dinner so that everything's ready when everybody's back so um I'm multiat chefing tonight so um so what are we having uh well we're we're having a whole bunch of stuff we're having burgers and I've got some uh some red cabbage with uh you know sour red cabbage with some apples and I've got some uh sweet potato fries and some other stuff that I'm putting together so um just something I can do while I'm talking on the phone here a lot of cutting and and
084oven work so uh with that um here's the alart street property um here's what I don't need I don't need a decision to Market it and I don't need to know how much to Market it for the board's already decided that right we decided that a long time ago so I I know uh what I need to Market it for because you guys gave me a price a pricing range and uh I know that I have the permission to Market it um but our our contract with the current people has got has left um we've had a couple inquiries uh since uh that contract left uh they were um much lower inquiries than what we had and they were only verbal inquiries I asked people to write me up something um and um at least
085as as far as end of day today when I did a spot check on my email I didn't see any written offers come in so here's the options that I have uh that I'd like you to think about and give me guidance on either we can stay with the same firm same broker uh and continue to have uh Brenda Slater uh do that that uh and list it for us we could use the same firm but a local uh uh vendor uh so use realy exx and ask our local um who does um commercial work if any um and then I could go that route or I could open it up to RFP uh bring everybody to the table have them do some interviews with Sarah and I tell them what our ask needs to
086be um and see if they're willing and or want to help us with that and what their commission and or fees might be fee structure might be what are your thoughts and how would you guide me open this one uh so the one question uh that I you know that I would ask would be what what kind of time commitment do you feel would be involved with an RFP I mean I feel like that might be the the best good faith effort to let you know local community have a crack at the um at the opportunity I think um because it's such a a quick turnaround because of the holidays um we would probably bringing you back something in our December meeting okay uh because between between this meeting and our next board meeting we
087you know it's shortened period of time and trying to get it out there get the word out um call people get them in do the interviews um it will definitely be December's meeting um if I if I may the um I don't have an issue with an RFP but here's my concern is that when we did this I'll say two years years ago we kind of if it wasn't a formal RFP it was an informal RFP and the local vendors uh were interested but they were interested in marketing it at a lower price than the one that we ultimately selected and then the school board uh took a lot of uh heat uh social media and otherwise because of picking a vendor from outside of town but that vendor from outside of town turned to
088be more right more correct than the local vendors if it's strictly a matter of maximizing the value of the asset so we don't release contracts to the lowest uh to to the highest uh supplier any more though any more so than we should sell a piece of property to a lowest supplier my concern is if we go back out to RFP and there's three local uh uh companies who want to say we'll take it and we think we should list it for $300,000 and then we have to make the decision that to maximize the asset we still have to go back to the same person we've been working with yeah we're GNA have to go down that path all over again and take the exact same getting beat up over using a company from Jamesville
089as opposed to using one from Watertown and so I'm not saying that RFP is the wrong decision but I also don't think that we're going to agree to list it with anybody who doesn't want to get us the maximum value for it which should be in that 600 to 700 range which Jared alluded to are probably the numbers that were bed about two years ago of somewhere between you know 275 and 400 and so nobody should be wanting to sell it for that amount and so okay David I guess what I would say is if they came in with the amount that didn't align with the range that I know to be the range that we discussed and agreed to um as a board in closed session um they would be disqualified I guess yeah
090they'd be disqualified but they wouldn't accept that as being a good reason they they would then run us through again for not using a local vendor even though that they weren't prepared to get us the highest value for the the the product that we have I understand that but work for us I I I recognize you understand that Jared I'm just I know I'm stating it for the benefit of the other people on the board who have to make the decision going to RFP is not without its uh uh political casualties can we State they asking price that we would be um we would be wanting to Market it at in the RFP I could yeah can we that'd be reasonable then they they could say listen we're not goingon to come to you and
091we're not going to bid in this RFP if we have to try to sell it for more than 600 that would let them self uh if they s out it then then that's right that's not on us we said this is what we're gonna ask for and you have to Market it at this price and they say you're crazy you know or give it a try and they fail well you gave it a try yeah I like that Fred I I believe the range that I was given was the Hy number to uh basically um the last uh listing price right so uh those are the the ranges that I was given to look at and sort through and who knows maybe somebody will say hey I think you can sell up for even more
092than that now that was you know a year and a half ago GRE so I mean let's just say for the sake of argument everybody that's interested in listening listing it is comfortable with that then it really comes down to uh who you feel is going to have the best uh um network list yeah Andor their percentage of take right um you know they they may say We'll list it and we we'll only ask this much in return so I I've had anybody do a percentage of take to a flat dollar amount so um there is you know don't don't cut that side short you know especially on these larger dollar deal so my my question to everybody tonight is let's say we go to RFP we find somebody else that wants to handle this
093property for us are we going to run into the same challenges that we did this time in in in coming to the end of this deal uh or or are something's going to be ironed out out of our hands if the property comes in the buyer comes in and he wants to change from what that property is zoned at we're going to run into that again is they're going to have to go to the city council and they're going to have to get it rezone and if the powers that be and the people who sit around that Environ don't want that well then they're going to argue against it and you're going to go back to the city council or go back to a vote you can't there's nothing to do with that unless we
094have somebody use it for what it's currently zoned at we do with that which is still zon as commercial industrial right no institutional it's institutional yeah so can I give you can I give you a little bit of feedback so the feedback I got um you know basically from members on the council uh is this it was a really close vote what it came down to was density um if they had uh somebody come in with a different plan um maybe a little less density or even more of a mix of single family and multif family um it it might have passed uh and so I'm not saying that they would never say multif family they would never say they would never say multif family right they they said first of all it's who we
095got on the council now and also the density was just too thick at the end of the day and and they had worked with the company to try to get lower and lower and that was where it was at and so they finally had to say no yeah um my two cents on this uh Mike is that uh so as not to I'll say wake a sleeping bear there's no reason to visit this revisit this in the court of public opinion I think we were happy with the broker that we had in the past um going to RFP may make sense if we think that we might be able to bring it in house but then considering the downside and the very very limited upside of nobody's going to care that we switch Brokers from
096Jamesville to Watertown that's not going to run in the paper or in the the social media and I don't think we're going to get a better rate and I don't think we're going to get somebody committed to a higher selling price in which case for my two cents I say stay the course because nobody right now that that water is over the over the dam and uh we we've made that bed we're laying in it and people have already either forgotten or forgiven so I'd rather just stay the course with the the company that we've been working with because they're familiar with us they're familiar with the property and they're familiar with some of the the hair might be on it right I understand uh David's comments I I think they're valid com comments about
097that his his perspective um I just I'm fearful of making the same uh same decision mistakes potentially that they got the um black in the in the past as well but I differ on whether or not it's it's appropriate to um because this this decision uh well this particular uh agenda and the meeting minutes are going to reflect this conversation and when when that's read in the paper they're going to start they're going to start questioning why did you double down on that decision and and that that's that's a reservation I have and I I still think it's probably good faith to put it out for an RFP that's just my that's just my gut and um and but we we should we should make it clear that we're going to take the best qualified
098candidate you know when when it comes to the network that they present and then that's that's that's the determining Factor ultimately and and whatever um whatever their uh rates are and Craig uh yeah no issue we we did that once um we went to RFB nothing's changed to my knowledge in the last uh six months 18 months we had the the lowest rate the The Entity that we thought was going to represent our interest the best and it's there's zero cost to us to give local suppliers another bite at the Apple and I would love to use them but we have to be we have to State our criteria for a ward very clearly in that a 53094 area code does not move you up in the selection process and that just means that we
099could very easily end up right back where we are and we just got to reopen the whole you know the same I don't call it a night nightmare but uh what we went through in the past and and it's okay that you and I disagree on this or have different perspectives uh I I appreciate yours and I don't have any issue going back to RFP I just mentioned that uh I don't see any upside uh that best will end up exactly where we are and maybe it plays a little bit better in the paper at worse we take the exact same political storm we took the last time so um that I I I'll so with that I'll say I'm indifferent uh Jared I I you heard my opinion on it I don't know even
100know if we need a board resolution on this uh because it's an order in hand it's a contract that we're sitting on or or at least uh it's probably underneath your discretion to renew it without even board action yeah it's so if you want our guidance if you want our guidance it's it's it's one to one right now yeah yeah well I I would like I would like clear guidance and honestly uh exempt from Clear guidance I'm going to say uh then there's no impetus to change and I will go with uh who we who we currently have I'm just trying to see if there is uh a reason to change uh what that would be so that I have clear guidance and I can move forward Sam do you have uh we've heard from
101Dave and Craig uh what your thoughts you know this is a project that started long before I came to the board and I can definitely understand where Craig and Dave are both coming from uh as far as I've seen the process going on um I can't really say that I feel strongly one way or another about it just because it started so long before my time here so not trying to yeah I would say that I uh What's the phrase that you use a few months ago David defer to the majority of the committee sure that's what I'll say I I may have said that so uh you know I'm I agree with both as well Craig I'm going to tell you right now anytime we can use local I am 100% bought in right
102I think that's got to be that's got to be number one for community members help build or whatever it might be uh however I I I definitely don't want to open up another storm I I I get that the minutes will will be read and things like that um but I feel it it's less of a a bump than a full RP now that's an opinion I could be 100% wrong on that uh so what I'm hearing Jared unless any board member wants to correct me is we're kind of indifferent in putting it right back in your lap uh and are you C yeah I'm okay with that I I shared with you guys if if there wasn't enough impetus to change we would stay uh in basically extending the contract that we're doing and
103so I appreciate at least the conversation the discussion points because there has been some uh feedback in the community um and I just wanted to make sure that I'm doing due diligence again to check into my governing board um it sounds like there's not uh pressing impetus to change so I will continue moving forward as directed by the board earlier fair enough um then we will go to the planning calendar I'm gonna check out for the rest of the day you guys have a great night thank you thank you did you have your hand up according to planning calendar if I miss I'm not worried about it I you know I I I understand the rationale and decision that's decision you know yeah no I completely I'm on the as well right I get it
104um so the planning calendar so we look at this uh you know coming up in November we have uh auditor contracts um anything else that we feel should be coming up in November um I know we had talked about doing a final Sesser update we can do that in November if you still want to and then I'm sure we will talk about referendum again in November those are the only other things that I have anything else uh David I'll start with you anything else you see no Greg nothing that comes to mind right now but know there's a lot there yeah no I I get it um Sam all right if we could add those two things then to the planning calendar and then we are to our last piece of business and that is
105our monthly reports yes I don't know you want me to talk about any of that or if anybody have any questions I guess so we're seeing a month over month uptick in our Amazon report some of those and I I guess I just don't it's it's hard to try to try to monitor or try to grab my mind around it and one one thing that had mentioned before was a there's any way to like no like what particular fund of you know some of us spending whether it's in on our credit card statement our check our check statement what those are coming from I think um so that so that you know I I know that okay this money was designated for that purpose and um so you want the account number that it's going
106to no sorry of lute things but like um for instance what fund is being used for those particular purchases typically would be helpful if I U you mean like FTE right right I know Amazon is a little bit there are fun 21 purchases in Amazon and it's really hard the way that the Amazon report comes out if it specifically says fun 21 I usually will take it out but most of them don't stay one way or the other so it's hard to know exactly um which one is which I don't know for the check listing I I guessing oh what am I saying it says on the check listing what funded then when I look at it right now so if you go to the check listing and you look over to the far right
107column they actually shows the account number okay sure well I like that I like that Clarity appreciate that so yeah and I guess probably probably all of the reservations I had to like moving all over to um Amazon purchases from the beginning um because I I thought like the check listing offered more resolution with um like okay these these these purchases were from this account and that purpose you know for instance if there was a fun 21 group within you know booster whatever boers in their own to that's not a good example all right any other questions all right hearing none uh looks like this goes forward to resolution and now with that our next meeting will be November 13th um Mo for a motion to say that's get out do we have any action
108item that need out uh the only ones the ones I looked at is just moving forward to basically pay the bills right uh the referendum discussion I guess the ACT Oh you mean never mind action item moving forward backing up to the beginning we were talking with Craig he was asking for and David agreed um whether it's uh I remember something in the different buckets of money being spent if we could break that out um building level budget yeah building level budgets yeah anything else that I missed yes what did I miss um item a will be going forward on the agenda for the yeah the MOs quote yep Y and that and that you all all understood I thought we were talking about like in addition to this any action items for her to
109bring just kind of a recap think just a recap okay fair enough and then the then the referendum uh moving forward with the uh reoccurring referendum recommendation all work Street property discussion status quo basically yeah was yeah that was informational kind of is what it ended up being there everything else is y items added planning calendar y all right uh with that being said we have ending at 7:08