001Motion. >> Public session. >> Is there a second? >> Second. >> All in favor? >> Aye. >> Thank you once again. Thank you to my esteemed colleagues. Um And again, thank you to the public for just being patient with us. But please know that these decisions don't come easy. Um before we move forward, Mr. McNeal, you have an announcement? >> Yes, I do. Um just give me 1 second, please. Okay. So, I do apologize for this, but if you look at page four of the agenda, it says that there's a net change of $55,950. That um that is a mistake. The net change there should be zero. It It has no impact on the final number. It's just that there was a mistake in putting the number there. So, when we calculated all of the
002changes um that are plus and minus, the net effect results in zero, not 55. So, I needed to make that clear before we vote on that um resolution. Yeah. And as I said, it has no impact on the resolution itself. It's more just um the numbers that are in it. >> So, if everyone can make that that note of change. Do we have any questions from the the public on that change? Okay. And that said, um before we go into moving the motions, um I know this is a bit unorthodox, but I think the times certainly call for it. Um Yes, by the song of the same name. Um please be advised again that the decisions made here are not those that were made arbitrarily. Um a lot of work went into this on both
003sides, on the administration side and the board member side, and that there is the hope that there will be some type of decision made regarding the charter schools and some other things down the road that may change the outlook of where we are, hopefully in the positive. So, these are the things that Ms. Horton-Givens did you want to just say a piece on that before we move on? >> Oh, um thank you, um Dr. Howard. I believe that, and you can correct me if I'm wrong, Mr. Pinkney, that there may be a possibility for, um even with the riffs that we'll be able to bring individuals back, but that's really contingent upon, um the finalization of the approval or denial of that that charter school effect. >> Yes, that is correct. You know, and even
004with that, you know, as, you know, I do want to caution that, you know, the the majority of people will probably not come back, but there's a possibility that some will. You know, I just want to be fully transparent, you know, about that, so nothing is, um you know, like misconstrued, you know, about it. But, yes, the possibility, you know, >> And they were 21, correct? >> Yes, that was the final number that we >> Yeah, that was like, yeah. >> estimated >> estimation [clears throat] That's it. >> [sighs] >> Ms. Egwuatu, would you move the Would you move the items under finance? >> I move the item under finance, 1 2 3. Thank you. >> [snorts] >> Is there a second? >> I can. >> Okay. Um roll call. Ms. Best. Ms. Aguiñaga. >>
005I see um yes to one and two, but no for three. Thank you. >> Okay, sure. Ms. Estremera. >> Yes. >> Ms. Horton-Givens. >> I have a Is it possible I can ask a question about number three? >> I think so, yeah. If you have a clarifying question. Yes, sure. >> So, for >> Technically, we're not supposed to, but is it a clarifying question? >> It's clarifying for me. But >> [laughter] >> Go on. Okay. >> Nobody else but me. Nobody. Um number three, the adoption of the final budget with modifications to the tentative. What exactly can you >> So, basically, that's that's where you see this long list of accounts and you see the you see the column where it says tentative budget and final final budget? That's what that resolution is pertaining to.
006So, when it's talking about the changes between the tentative and the final budget, that's what this resolution is about because what generally happens is that you submit a tentative budget. The tentative budget is approved by the county DA. If there are changes between the time you submitted that tentative budget and when you drafted the final budget, you must document every single change to every single account line. >> Mhm. >> Line by line. That's the reason why when you look at this, you don't just see numbers and the and the amount of the change, but you also see the individual account line that's impacted. >> Okay. >> I mean, thank you for asking the clarifying question. That's actually an important question for you to be able to understand what you're voting on. >> Mhm. Okay, so
007give me a second. >> Please continue. >> She asked for a second. Yeah. >> No. >> Okay. Mr. Okoye. >> Yes. >> Ms. Parks. >> Yes. >> Mr. Shapiro. >> Abstain. Uh in addition, I'm sorry, this is out of order, but it's a technical note on the resolution. There is an error [clears throat] in the last paragraph of item number two. That correction should be read into the record, and I don't know if you need to reconfirm the votes or not. >> Let's take that one minute. >> There are two errors. >> [laughter] >> That paragraph. >> The final paragraph, correct? >> The final >> Yes, I I see them. Yes, that the And I'll read that into the record that um now therefore be resolved that the the correction would be Hillside Board of
008Education and the County of Union. And that will be the correction. Thank you, Mr. Shapiro, for pointing that out. >> Thank you. >> We don't need to be re-certified for that, do we? >> Please continue. >> Oh, okay. All right. So, Mr. Shapiro, you had said your vote was an abstention, correct? Okay. Leaping Hargrave. >> Yes. >> Okay. Um and President Dr. Howard. >> [snorts] >> Yes. Okay. Um the motion passes with the majority vote of the full board membership. Five votes. Okay. All right. Ms. Pace, would you move the items under labor? >> Mhm? Do they >> Public does not have these items. We do apologize. There is a vote pile on the with these parts. >> Okay. Do I still need the >> Ms. Shapiro, would you actually there's a few more copies.
009>> Oh. More copies. I would like to move item one under labor relations. >> Yes, Ms. Williams. >> So, what's the vote on one and two? Yes and three no. >> Appreciate it. Okay. Okay. Um just give us a So, um Ms. Lauren Givens, you can >> I like to correct my vote and um one and two yes and three no. >> Okay. Just One and two yes and three no. Ms. Lauren Givens' vote was previously no. So, um That's on finance. Yes. >> Yes. >> One and two yes and three no. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> And still, you know, based on based on that, the right, it still passes. With the vote of full board um majority action. All in favor? Sorry. Forgive me, Miss Slate. All right. Best I apologize. Who
010was the second on that? >> Mark. >> Thank you, Miss Mark. Just call it. Just call it. So, roll call. Um Miss Best. >> Yes. >> Miss Agwoh-Edeh. >> Yes. >> Mr. Estremera. >> Okay. So, in good conscience to our taxpayers and our ex- outstanding employees, I can't let them bear the damage from previous administrations. I'm going to say no. >> Okay. Miss Horton-Gibbons. >> No. >> Mr. Okai. >> Yes. >> Mr. Shapiro. I'm sorry. Ms. Parks. >> [snorts] >> Yeah. Yes. >> Mr. Shapiro. >> [clears throat] >> Mr. P. Hargrave. >> No. >> And board president Dr. Howard. >> For the record, having struggled with my first decision with the hope that there will be a change down the road, I cannot in good conscience vote for this. So, my answer is no. >>
011Okay. Um by there were four yes votes, which means that this resolution does not pass. And just No, we need five. There are four. Okay, I'll call out the yeses and you can correct me if I'm wrong. >> Who's cooking now? No, you got it right. You're correct. >> Oh. Oh, okay. Yes. yes, yes. It doesn't pass by a majority of the full board membership because there's four votes. Um, just keep in mind that this resolution like with the budget. The resolution connects directly with the budget. [laughter] No, I'm just making the point. That's all. So, it's So, so it's not unknown. >> It's not unknown that since this resolution did not pass, it won't affect the next budget that comes out. >> It does affect the current budget because this Right, because the resolution
012um here is the you know, like the staff that would be impacted are it's built into the budget that we're >> Don't think that we're >> that we're presenting. So, what I'm trying to say is that I'll be admit not that clearly. What I'm trying to say is Right. Yes. Okay, then. Then that's fine. Thank you. No, there's um I just got clarification from council. Uh we're um everything is okay. So, >> Just to be clear, that resolution failed. That's it. >> Right. Exactly. And that's what he clarified. >> It's important for us to know the yeses and the nos. We need to know names. Who said yes and who said no? >> Um I did call I did call out the names cuz okay. Okay, thank you. Sure. >> Since it failed, right? No,
013since it failed, right? Does that would People of course will be retained, right? And it will go into the next budget, correct or not? >> No, right now. >> Right now? >> This is this budget. Yeah, it's this budget, yes. >> That is And we're approving now. >> Yes. >> Right. Well, so what does that mean? Do we still So do we make more cuts in certain places such as programming and stuff like that? Okay, I just wanted to clear Okay. >> Someone move it again. >> Yes. Do you care by majority of the board do you care? Do I have a second? >> Second. >> Okay. Is that who moved it? >> The motion is moved again. >> Okay, we're going to do a re-vote. >> Who moved it? Did you move it? >>
014I did. >> Um Ms. Cunningham. >> And this >> I make a motion to reconsider, what do we do? >> Did Did Did she vote yes or no? >> She voted yes. >> Somebody Somebody who voted no would have to move it. >> What did you say? >> Someone who voted no would have to move it. >> [clears throat] >> Someone who voted no would have to move the motion. Move it and second it, yeah. Someone who voted no. >> [clears throat] >> What's the What's the What's the What's the >> So that a a motion to reconsider can only be moved by somebody that voted on the prevailing side of the motion. And the prevailing side was the people that voted no. So somebody that voted no would have to make the motion. >>
015Actually, there was no prevailing side cuz it was even 4-4. So what what would that be? >> Motion failed, so >> Right, so >> It failed because people voted no. >> So then someone who voted no would have to make a motion and I cannot, so therefore Right. Yeah. >> So basically, my question was to clarify what we did. Because it did not pass, right? And this will affect that the budget that we're bringing in for 2026-2027, there has to be more cuts being made and I specifically asked when it came to programs for the students. And those programs that we have are going to be cut. Right. So what they're asking is, I guess Panky as you said, can we motion to vote again? But you can't because you have students, correct? >> That's
016what I No, I I >> You can't. >> I suggested a technical solution to the current problem, which was perhaps someone should consider a motion to motion. That's what I threw out. That's what it created this whole conversation. >> Okay. But the motion failed, so >> Yes. Do we have a motion to his point? Do we have to reconsider? I can't. >> President can't motion. >> Yeah, why can't you? Yes, it was. You voted no. >> And so your motion to reconsider is being used as a way don't want the vote of this >> Right, you're you're >> You want to change the outcome of this. >> You're on the prevailing side, which is the no side. So, if you wanted to, you could. >> No, we don't. >> Can I ask a question before
017we go on? And my question for what I need for clarity, we are saying that with the up down vote until more cuts, right? >> Mhm. >> For the students. With the students. Cuz we don't need more cuts. >> See, this is a very difficult decision for everybody. And we And we already knew what the consequences are for what we voted for. And I think we all voted our conscience. So, I'm not sure why we're going back and forth and why we need to re-vote. Because none of this is hard I mean easy, I'm sorry. None of this is easy. Like, nobody wants anyone to lose their job. But we all have been presented the facts of what's going to happen. And we still voted the way that we felt we needed to. So, why
018are we doing it again? Take what you did and move on. Like, it's hard, but we're going to be here all night again saying the same thing that we knew last week. This is not easy. Like, we And I don't want to keep saying that we live here and we pay We know that. That's why we're elected members cuz we live in the community. And it affects everybody. But I'm making the best decision that I can for what I know for the students. And that's it. Today, he's in control. And I don't know why we need to re-vote or why we keep going back and forth. >> Go ahead, Mr. Go ahead, Mr. Estrada Maria. Is there a second? Is there a second? Yes, you can. >> You can. >> Is the motion to reconsider
019is there a second? >> It's on to the Okay. Thank you. >> Is there a second? >> Second. >> Okay. >> Yeah. All in favor? >> I. >> All in favor. >> But who seconded? >> Mr. Aguete seconded. >> Yeah, but we want somebody who's on the on the no side to second. Yes. >> Right. Yeah, Mr. Mr. Aguete seconded. >> was not on the no side. >> So someone on the no side has to second it, is that what I'm hearing? >> I believe that's what council is saying. >> That's what I'm saying. >> Yeah, council is saying that. So is there someone on the no side >> Okay, it's been moved it's been moved and it's been moved and seconded. So now we'll just recall the vote again, please. >> [clears throat] >>
020The vote in the recon Okay, the motion Go ahead, please. >> Do we have the second? >> Yes. >> [clears throat] >> Okay. Thank you. >> Okay. Just to reconsider the vote, not the vote. >> Right. Right. for the actual All right, so we're roll calling to reconsider the vote since we have the second since the motion has been seconded. Okay, so to reconsider the vote for this agenda item. >> [sighs] >> Ms. Best Ms. Agwoh Ighide >> Yes. >> [snorts] >> Ms. Astramaro Ms. Horton Givens >> No. >> Ms. Okai >> No. >> Ms. Parks >> Abstain. >> Ms. Shapiro >> Yes. >> VP Hargrave >> No. >> And President Dr. Howard >> Yes. >> Okay. [clears throat] But so that's no that we're reconsidering this. Okay? >> If we don't get it passed,
021we're dealing with Trump. We'll get faster system. This is done. [laughter] This is done. You guys, please. >> Okay. >> Do you have a motion to adjourn? >> Motion. >> Is there a second? >> Second. >> All in favor? Okay. >> Motion to adjourn. >> Yeah, I'm sorry. I have a