Amityville BOE Mtg 9/10/25

001Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the September 10th work session board for education meeting for the Amville Union Food Leadership. Time is now 5:37 p.m. and I'm calling the meeting to Florida. Currently in attendance at the meeting tonight is myself, board president, Lisa Johnson, our first vice president, Juan Leon, our second vice president, Chris Naring, will be arriving shortly, and we have our trustees, Carol Seahhof, Leslie Kretz, and Megan Mesman. Also in attendance is our superintendent, Dr. Kim Halbert, our assistant superintendent for curriculum instruction, Mary Sevens, and our assistant superintendent for finance and operation, Mr. Richard Snder. At this point in time at 5:38 p.m. Can I have a motion to enter into executive session for the purpose of advisement council and for interviews for the Human Right Director of Human Resources position? >>

002Moved >> second C office first Juan Le I'm sorry second. All those in favor I >> I motion carries 5. We will resume open at 7:30 p.m. Thank you for joining us for the opening of our meeting >> session meeting September 10th, 2025. We are resuming open now at 7 36. Please note the emergency exits that are clearly marked that are closest to where you are sitting. Um, there's no smoking on school grounds and please silence cell phones during the business of the board meeting. Please join the board in the pledge of allegiance. At this point in time, I am going to turn it over to Dr. Talbert and then we will Thank you, President Johnson, and good evening to everyone. At this time we are going to have our student report. Our ex officio

003student board member is Aaliyah McQueen. Good evening everyone. I'm Aaliyah McQueen, one of the student exeicio board members and I'll be giving tonight's report. 34 students attended the trip to see the Broadway musical Wicked at the Gershwin Theater in New York City on August 22nd. Students left the school around 11:25 and returned around 7:10 p.m. The students had a lot of fun and I would like to say a huge thank you to Dr. Impaglazo and Dr. Fernandez for organizing the event and also to the teachers that were chaperoning. Since the 2526 school year has now started, we're hoping that we can possibly bring back field trips for students. And now the question that's probably on everyone's minds, how have students at the high school been reacting to the phone ban? Well, students were given their

004pouches Thursday and Friday of last week during their gym classes, and on Monday, the ban went into full effect for the most part. Students have been cooperating, and we received and experienced a mixed reaction to the phone ban. Some are still upset with it, while some don't seem to have much of an issue, others somewhere in between. We're hoping that as the school year progresses that students can grow more adjusted to being away from their phones to ensure a more engaged school year. Thank you for coming out tonight. Thank you, Aaliyah. >> Can I just ask a quick question of Aaliyah? So, do you think that as our representatives that there may be some type of poll or survey that you're going to do or going to collaborate with someone to see what the billing

005is about this at the building? >> Yeah, I could do that. Okay. >> Thank you. >> Can I also say something? You mentioned field trips for this year and I do believe that that's in the budget. So, I just want to to confirm that again. Right, Dr. Talbert, for this upcoming school year. Thank you, Aaliyah. Our other exofficio student board member at a volleyball game tonight, otherwise she would be here with us. So, good evening to everyone once again, members of the board, falcony, families, and community members. Our schools opened this fall with great energy. Classrooms were ready, teachers were prepared, and students came in eager to learn. I want to thank all of our staff and administrators for making the start of the school year smooth and positive. As it pertains to our cell

006phones and the yonder implementation at the Edund W Miles Middle School, the roll out has followed a clear communication timeline. On August 26, grade level orientations introduced the district policy, the yonder pouches, and the state cell phone ban. September 5th, parents received an email reminder outlining the policy. September 9th, students attended assemblies to review the yonder agreement and see demonstrations. Families also received a parent square update. I attended the eighth grade assembly and there were a number of thoughtful questions by our student scholars about the implementation. So, it was a very good exchange of conversation. Tomorrow, uh, September 12th, students will receive their Yonder pouches and September 15th, the full implementation begins. As Aaliyah has shared, the high school has really experienced a successful roll out. Um, the teachers have reported stronger student engagement and

007fewer distractions now that cell phones and earbuds are no longer in use during the school day. As it pertains to transportation, transportation continues to be a top priority. I would like to thank Mr. Spence, Miss Harris, and all of those who have been navigating the challenges and adjustments to improve routes across the district and more specifically at Northeast and Northwest. We are monitoring daily these routes to make sure service continues to improve. And later in just a few moments actually our coordinator of transportation will provide an update for you as to where we are. Tomorrow is a day of remembrance and we would like to make you aware that our schools will be honoring uh this message this day with the message of hope and unity and love. At the high school, our art classes

008will have each student to write a message of love on a yellow star and affix it to a poster creating a night skyline image. at Park Elementary School. One teacher in particular, Miss Convoy's class, is registered for a 30 minute virtual show hosted by the 911 Memorial and Museum, which includes a live chat with curators, survivors, and first responders. The theme for this event is heroism and working together. Students at large will create a choose kindness poster by decorating a square that will be put together with others to show the importance of collaboration. At Edmund W Miles Middle School, the day will begin with a special announcement honoring and remembering 911. An email has been sent to staff and staff is prepared to discuss the significance of 911 in their classes. They will focus on

009themes such as resilience, unity, and courage. There will also be recollections from several guest speakers on site at Northeast Elementary School. They will commemorate an assembly at 10:30 tomorrow and they will also plant American flags on the front lawn in remembrance. A few upcoming events and updates. PreK begins Monday, September 15th. Picture day was today at the high school and will continue tomorrow. The high school will host back to school night, ENL and title one parent night on Monday, September 15th. Also on Monday, we will begin our I Ready benchmark screenings in grades 1 through nine. Applications for the superintendent student leadership council has been have been distributed and we're looking forward to hearing back from students. Overall, the year has gotten off to a strong start and I'm excited about what lies ahead for

010our student scholars. It's an exciting year. Um, at this time, is it okay to move on to the presentations? We have two tonight. The first one will provide a transportation update. We're sort of going to give you a recap of some of the initiatives and some of the um processes that we have been um working together and collaborating on as well as some future goals and next steps for transportation in the Amityville School District. So, thank you, Mr. Spence, for joining us tonight. We know you've been extremely busy >> and to be here tonight, we appreciate it. Thank you. >> Happy to be here. So, the first thing that I wanted to start off with is go over the topics that we will be discussing. We're going to go over transportation recap. We're going to

011talk about enhancing communications, the safety additions and continuation of programs from last year, student and staff safety training programs. So, our in district mileage changed. We're going to talk about that in the next few slides. Our private school mileage changed from 15 miles to 17 miles. that allowed about 40 students to continue their rides to school. We're going to talk about kindergarten and prek at Northeast. And the other problem that we've been experiencing is educational bus has a tremendous amount of new staff. We have over a dozen new drivers. There are four new dispatchers at our van location. There are two new general managers at our van location and at our large bus location. So, we're dealing with a lot of new people that are trying to learn the way that Amityville runs while we've

012had all of these changes that have happened this school year. So the past transportation guidelines that we used to go by were prek to two was a half a mile, 3 to 5 was a mile, and 6 to 12 was a mile and a half. And as a reminder to everybody, the NYED minimum mileage is anybody over 2 miles for K to 8 and anybody over 3 miles for 9 to 12. So, we had to change back to a referendum from 1994 because of some research that we did last year which changed our mileages prek to 3 half a mile, 4 to 6 a mile, and 7 to 12 a mile and a half. So, we had to give third graders an additional half a mile of service, which allowed 45 third graders to get

013a ride to school within a half a mile to a mile. The sixth graders also were provided additional transportation. We are transporting an additional um sixth graders that meet the new criteria. So that added to the logistics of trying to make our programs work. So moving on to the northeast northwest route combinations. They have been separated. Some of you may have already received the communication from Dr. Talbert indicating that we were able to get this done relatively quickly. And I'd like to remind everyone this is a process that takes about a month to complete and we did it in just a few days. We worked over the weekend and nights to get this done. The staff over at Educational Bus have been absolutely fantastic in getting this done. So, we'd like to thank everybody that's

014been a part of that. We're now going to have 11 large buses servicing northwest. We're going to have seven large buses servicing northeast. and there are not going to be any northeast and northwest students combined on those routes. We had to add four monitors because of this route change and these routes are going to be effective on September 15th which is Monday. And this is a reminder that we need a new referendum to meet our building mileages which is northeast and northwest prek to second grade should be a half a mile. third and fifth grade. Third, excuse me, third to fifth grade should be a mile for Park Avenue and 6th to 12 should be a mile and a half for the middle school and the high school. We're also continuing to work on the

015child safety zones that we talked about last school year. We've been working with Boseies on this and trying to get a plan. Um a reminder that child safety zones if we are um able to find them, we can get additional sedate aid for um providing transportation in those child safety zones. So that would also be something that we would have to add into the referendum in May. We've been using issue tracking software since last year to put incidents and complaints requests in the order in which they're received. So any phone call that we receive, any email that we receive goes into our issue tracking software. So we're able to figure out where we are and how much we have left to do. We are almost done with getting the implementation between transfinder and parent square

016complete. When we do that, we will be able to distribute the routes to all of our parents and students via parent square. It's going to be a great increase in communication. I'm also going to be at the Park Avenue Northeast and Northwest back to school nights if anybody has any questions and also to help spread some bus safety information with our little ones that are there. And something that I'm excited about is to work on safety videos with our Amityville Broadcast Club. I've talked to the folks that are involved with the club and they're very excited and working together with the transportation department and creating some safety videos. So, last year we talked about extended stop arms in the pilot program. It worked so well that we were able to get our contractor to include

017it in their new RFP. And we are going to be the first school district on Long Island to install fleetwide extended stop arms. And as a reminder, it's that little arm that sticks out off the side of the bus that gives an extra 36 in of LED lights flashing in the face of the motorist that's facing them. Another exciting addition that talks about lighting is a guardian angel lighting system. So, as you can see from this picture above, it lights up the crossing area that students are in. So, that way the drivers can see them, the motorists can see them, and in addition, if you look on the front hood of our buses, they have an additional red LED flashing light right in the line of sight where car um windshields would be. We also

018had decals added to our buses to remind our students about safe crossing the rules on the bus. And we're also going to be having enhanced school bus drills. Part of the RFP was making sure that we had one additional school bus drill. Normally, uh, SED requires that we do a minimum of three. We are going to be doing four with our students this school year. We're also continuing the conscious discipline program which is a socioeotional program to assist our school bus monitors in trying to manage students emotional mayhem and to get us to understand as bus monitors that we can't manage a student's emotional mayhem if we're not in control of our own emotional mayhem. So, kind of gives us our own little selfch check before we deal with students and interacting with them. We're

019also going to be working together with the building administrators to create and implement programs to reinforce good and bad bus behavior. And that is all. Your feedback matters. Your we are here to support you. I would like to extend a fantastic shout out to our transportation office assistant, Carmen Harris, who has been a tremendous integral part in getting through all of the communications. So, thank you, Carmen. And in conclusion, we are all in this to make our community safer. >> Thank you, Nate, for the update. I really appreciate it. Um, I'm glad you provide clarity on the the the separating out the bus transportation between Northeast and Northwest because that was something that definitely needed to be done. So, Leslie, you have a question. Just speaking to the mic. >> Thank you. >> Okay. >>

020A little bit closer. >> Are there monitors on norththeast and northwest buses or just the prek? The northeast? >> Both northeast and northwest. Yes. and a majority of the Park Avenue buses. >> Since we split the Northeast and Northwest buses, are the schedule the routes changing? Are the the bus time uh the the bus stop times changing? >> All of the bus stop times were adjusted. The prek bus passes went out in the mail today. The um other buildings received their passes. I personally dropped them off. They're going to be delivering them to the students between tomorrow and Friday. >> And it starts Monday. >> It starts Monday. Yes. >> Okay. Okay. And one more thing, you had mentioned that the monitors get the uh sensitivity training. Do the bus drivers also >> I'm going

021to be working with EBT to make sure that the next session they have they get part of the socioeotional training um which is the conscious discipline. >> Thank you. Thank you. >> My pleasure. >> Any other questions? >> Wand and Christie. >> Thank you. >> Check. Thank you, Madam President. This question is more directed towards our superintendent of schools. Um, this has to do with last night before I went to bed, I went on to the Amityville School Board website and I saw in huge bold letters, a link for the complete routes for Northeast School and Northwest School start times, pickup times, uh, where children will be in the morning and where children get dropped off in the afternoon. And I thought to myself, what about the safety of the children? All it takes is

022one person with bad intentions knowing this information where students will be in the morning picked up or where they will be dropped off. And we've had several incidences here last year, the year before that. It happens in many school districts where Dr. Talbert did the right thing and called and said that there's been a stranger in the neighborhood that tried to talk to children. So whenever I saw that when I saw that last night I woke up this morning and I said to myself that wasn't right and I did email the board and superintendent and thank you it has been taken down since then but I had never seen that before. Um, the best way to probably get I I understand what you were trying to do or whoever it was tried to get the

023information out as quickly as possible, but we don't need it going on the website for anyone any Joe out in Suffach County or another state to know our bus routes where children will be. So perhaps the better way to do that as a suggestion for next time might be to either one have that have a paper route and give it to that child at school so they can take home or we spend a lot of money and time and effort on parent square. Put it on parent square. Um so then at least it's limited there. But going on the website probably wasn't the safest thing to do. Thank you. >> Thank you. Uh, Trusty Leon, the routes have been removed, but I do want to just clarify it was routes for Northeast and Northwest only.

024Those students require an adult to be at the bus stop when they are picked up and an adult at the bus stop when they are dropped off. So, the students would never be by themselves, but thank you for the feedback. We did remove it. We wanted to make sure that the parents were um received the information in as many modes of communication as possible and the transportation department worked diligently to get those bus passes out and so the parents do have the information. Um and as always, we are being responsive. So if you do have any other outstanding issues, please feel free to reach out to transportation amityville ufsd.org and we are getting back to you as quickly as we can. So please know that your concerns have not fallen on deaf ears. Thank you,

025>> Mr. Nan. >> One, I would like to say too, just to build on that, I also had the same red flag go off. Um, I think that school districts and other schools are moving more towards just like really heightened awareness of sort of keeping detailed information about where students are more as like a password protected type of access or if it is just on parent square that it is just like you know who's logged into parent square and who would have access to that. So it is something I you know I completely agree with your concern and going forward um you know to consider what information we do have on the website overall in in relation to where students might be gathered or or whatnot, right? Because it is a crazy world that we

026live in. Um so I I I agree with the concern and also of course appreciate that it was removed but it's important concern. >> Thank you. Mr. Nearing. >> Thank you. Uh question about the child safety zone study. I know you said it was a lengthy process. Can you just remind me about how long we would see any results from that? >> I think based upon the conversation that I had with both C's um a few weeks ago, we should have some results. I'm hoping by November or December, if not sooner. So then after you have those results, that's when it would be we would have the ability to add it as a referendum and then after that referendum that then everything is put in place and following that we would be receiving some sort

027of state aid. >> That is correct. >> Yes. >> Uh thank you. One more question. I know we had a conversation a couple weeks ago about the pouches and what the effect might be on the buses. No, it was a very small sample size, but have you noticed any difference whereas the students are now after being disconnected for so long if their behavior has changed on the buses just being focused on their phones? >> That is something that we're monitoring that I don't really want to give an answer on quite yet. >> Thank you, Mr. Spence. I have one question. Um, as far as the child safety zone research, are you getting updates as far as the research goes so we can be proactive along the way or are we just going to get one

028final report? >> Once the process starts, we work collectively with Boseies. >> They ride around with us into some areas that they feel might be able to be set as safety zones and we have to do a physical observation of those which is what Boseies is being hired to do. >> Okay. Thank you. Are there any other questions from suspense? >> Yes, I um sorry, it's okay. Um just Chris was talking about a referendum related to the safety zone. Is that correct? >> So should we find that there are areas that are available to be in the safety zone, it should really be a part of our referendum that we push through to get the mileages back to where they need to be. So, but you that's the slide that you have here for suggestion.

029You're hoping for May. Is that right? >> Right. Because we'd have to vote on the referendum for the budget vote in May. >> Okay. Um Okay. Uh I see that you're putting I can I get the concept that it's per building, but I don't know. I mean third and the third graders right now are at the half mile mark and I think parents are probably happy with that uh coming out of Park Avenue that their third graders don't have to be a walker. >> We have been experiencing some logistical issues where there are third graders that also either have a fourth or fifth grade sibling and we're not allowed to have them ride. So we've been having to say no I'm sorry your third grader is eligible but your fourth and fifth grader are not.

030And it's also been the same case with the middle school where a sixth grader is now entitled to a ride, but the seventh and eighth graders are not. And a lot of them like to keep their kids together so that way they can be walking together or, you know, know that they're accounted for. >> I see. I understand. And that's the same situation. I'm sure you're getting the calls from St. Martin's folks. >> Yes. >> Mr. spent on some of those buses empty where we could be taking on older children. >> That's something that I'd like to review throughout the year. Okay. >> We did do student counts on our route last year that I retained, right? >> And I'd like to continue those starting in October once everything is straightened out, the drivers are

031comfortable with their runs because we don't want to have them do counts right now while they're still learning how everything works. >> I have been getting feedback that some of the buses are relatively, you know, empty. So thank you. >> That is something we can work on. Yes. >> Thank you. >> Any other questions in regards to this? >> And the contrary, I I I had heard feedback that the buses were full. >> It it depends on which one and which route it is and where it goes. >> Jump in. >> So thank you. I I do have one more question and this is more directed to the superintendent. Um, regarding the potential referendum, I do see on our schedule for board meetings, October 22nd is listed in parentheses as an audit committee meeting. Is

032there any chance that we could get a projected cost for transportation to bring it back to the level that we had before we had to reduce back to the 1994 level? you know, putting the safety zones aside, whatever we get from the safety zones is on top of that and that's great, but just for I would really really appreciate and like to start the planning soon. >> So, you're you're stating you would like to have that by October 22nd. The cost >> I'm I'm asking is it is that feasible? So >> Mr. Snider, >> I'd have to defer to Mr. Spence in terms of the route analysis and what that would look like. >> Okay. I >> think it may take just a little bit more conversation and sitting down and projecting the factors that

033would implicate us being able to produce that by such time. But we'll work on that. >> Okay. But hold on. It's not very difficult. It's not extremely difficult. We know how many children that we service right now. We know the the radius of what it used to be. I'm not asking for perfect numbers. Ballpark. Ballpark works for me. If we listen, I'm not going to hold anyone to anything, but October 22nd, if we can have something, I would greatly appreciate it. >> Thank you. Any other questions? >> Well, I just want just to build on just to clarify what you're asking. Which mileage are you asking for? We just talked about the concern with the, you know, the family that has the third, fourth, and fifth grade siblings. So, would we want to bring Park

034Avenue entirely to a half mile? >> Because Park Avenue, for example, right, if you compare the mileage, right, only the third graders had the half mile, right? >> That is correct. >> So, that so it's I guess just to I mean, I I appreciate the concept that you're saying. What what what I'm saying is where in areas that it wasn't beneficial for our students, basically where our students had a bus last year and now don't. >> Well, hold on one second. >> That's been something that we've heard a bunch of. Anybody that had a ride last year is still getting a ride this year. >> It's not true. >> No, >> that's not true. >> No. >> As far as in district, it is. Yes. >> How many parents would you like me to have

035call you tomorrow? That's the question. Okay. You know what? I'm not gonna argue that. If that's your position, >> because we added mileage. We didn't subtract mileage. So, we added the number of students we were transporting instead of subtracting them. >> So, let's look at this a little bit closer to make sure that if there there may be some there there probably are some students who maybe had transportation last year, but they don't have it this year. Let's look at a little bit closer before we say um and it before we say yes or no on this particular matter. And I think as we move forward if there's going to be a referendum in regards to like we we know Northeast has you know prek and kindergarten northwest has first and second. So now the

036question is if we try to do the same mileage from three to five from grades three to five at Park Avenue are we allowed to do that? Not so I think we have to look at a lot of logistics in regards to that. So for example, if we said hypothetically that between grades three to five that only has to be a half a mile, what will be the cost to have all those students who are half a mile from the school to get bus transportation? So if that's the case, then providing those numbers may be a little bit more challenging and once again once you get to um for the sixth grade um for six to 12, it's one and a half miles. So that's six, seventh and and eighth. So it I think we

037have to look at this closer. Are we going to look at it by building? Are we looking at it by grade? And we have to make that particular decision. So therefore, the numbers can be provided or actually do it both ways. You know, if we have, you know, by building, this is what it will look like. If we did it by grade grades in these buildings, this will be this is what it will look like. So I think and it does get very concerning for a parent that if you have a child that's in third grade and in fourth grade, one child gets on the bus, the other one does not. So that that imp impacts the parent. >> Exactly. >> Who has to >> put one kid on the bus and then bring the

038other one to school or do you just bring them both to school? So I think we really need to look at everything closely and look at both ways that we could do it. Is it by grade or is it going to be by building and can we do it, you know, at a half a mile or whatever for for certain grades. So I think we have to look at both when we get the numbers. So therefore we can determine what we can and cannot you know do for our districts. >> That's just my recommendation. >> I'd be happy to prepare that data. >> Right. Thank you. Any other questions regarding this or comments? >> Right. Thank you, Mrs. Spence. >> Thank you everyone. Have a good evening. >> Right. So at this point in time

039um there is there any community input regarding board I'm sorry I'm sorry the mascot removal update. Sorry. Sorry, >> as you know, the district has gone through a transition from Warrior to Tide and uh based on the requirements of NYC, there had to be removal of everything pertaining to indigenous imagery and uh verbiage. And so, Mr. Snder will give us an update as to where we are with the cost for mascot removal. >> Most of the costs are in there's a couple of smaller estimates in the figures that you see here, but we have a very high degree of confidence that to date we've spent $200,495 removing uh ma the mascot imagery and the words. The largest expenditures came with the gym floors, the sanding and the repainting. The number at the very top 149,000

040is the high school, middle school, and this building. And then looking at it, you know, everything from bleacher seat replacements, signs and plaques, all the windcreens on the athletic fields. All of this is really the high school um awnings and outdoor dedication sign. That's an estimate right there, although I think the numbers actually come in. And then some benches and seat cover replacements. So in in total that mandate from the state education department total just over $200,000 and this information will be published to the website first thing in the morning. >> Thank you. Any questions? Any comments from board? >> Mr. Nar, >> what would what would you say is the main driver of the reduction? And I know you weren't part of the >> estimate um but what would you say is the main

041driver of the reduction in the cost >> of the savings? I think the gym floors came in >> cheaper than what we thought and to a lesser degree some of the other things, but there was some savings on the gym floors that came in lower than the estimates. >> Thank you. >> Any other questions or comments? >> Yes, one one quick question. Uh, thank you again for for putting this on for us. I know I asked you about this um I don't know when it was, but yeah, thank you for doing this. My question is, I don't expect you to have these figures right now, but is the state reimbursing us anything for um for some of this work that's being done? >> Sir, I'm not aware of any communication from SEDD that would reimburse

042us for these costs. >> Okay. This wouldn't >> hasn't been mentioned at any of the business official meetings. I haven't received any emails from it. I'm not aware of it and I think if someone in cabinet would have seen an email somewhere. So the answer sir is today no. There's no reimbursement for this. >> Okay. I just wasn't sure if this fell under a capital project because I know sometimes when we're doing bigger projects, we submit the plans to the state, they chip in a little bit, but not in this situation. >> No. Based on the the deadlines of the mandate from the state, you know, we didn't have any opportunity to do this under a capital work where maybe we could have gotten our building aid reimbursement for that. So no. >> Okay. Thank

043you. Taxpayer funding them. That's that's great. >> Any other questions or comments? >> Thank you very much. >> Now, at this time, if there's any community input regarding agenda items only. >> Hi, Patty De 86 Union. Um, my first comment was not what I came up to say, but with In regard to your comment, Trusty Leon, I I feel like it would behoove every taxpayer uh in every district affected in the state to ban together, uh the words class action come to mind because my tax dollars are going not as far in this district as others who didn't have to do this nonfunded mandate. And that's very upsetting to me. Um but I digress. Uh my question was am I correct when I look at the transportation numbers uh with the 1990s and the third

044graders was third grade at northeast northwest at that time. So we were broken down by building when we had that old set of mileage numbers and so reverting back to it does make less sense now that we've reddrawn the lines with who's in what building. So, I just throw that out for information. And finally, my last question is transportation related. Um, I know that it is not the school district's responsibility to hire or um find or put in place crossing guards, but I am aware that we have what I would say if it's more than one, it's a significant number of children traveling um from South to Park Avenue. And being that they could be fourth graders who aren't even nine yet walking to that building and even our high schoolers coming from East Masipua,

045I do believe especially with all the work being done on Merrick Road that we need crossing guards on Merrick Road. Um I'm particularly concerned about the corner of Ketchum and Merrick Road. Um, so I wonder is that possible for us to initiate the conversation with the village who I believe would be responsible, the village police and the mayor would be responsible for putting them in place. Could we request a conversation? >> Thank you, Miss De. I will say there has been ongoing conversations with our transportation coordinator and the local precinct um who hires the crossing guards and really determines their placement. um he has made them aware of um concerning areas and stops and I'm not certain if ketchup and Merrick is one of those intersections but we'll certainly review the list that he has

046shared with them and let you know. >> Thank you. the child safety study would provide the district with more support for the need for crossing guards, but historically it's always been a matter of finding them for the PD because they have a tough time finding them. But the child safety study is a marvelous way to for the district and the board of ed to have some backing to say we need these. >> I do know that very recently they had a couple on standby that they didn't have positions for. So, and I do know that we had within the last year and I do know that we have a more than one um very close proximity crossing across Route 110. So, I I feel like if we could encourage them, they might come through. >>

047Thank you. >> Any other community input on agenda items? Good evening everyone. Yolanda Carter, 97 Brian Avenue. Um, I listened to the presentation from the superintendent of transportation and some of the things that I just jotted down talked about community safety, child safety zones, etc. >> Just kind of speak to us. >> Sorry. Child safety zones, etc. I understand that there was um the 1994 reverted back to the mileage and all of those things. So I understand all of those numbers to >> today I'm here as a parent not talking about numbers talking about children. I'm one of the moms my neighbor who's sitting right here. Both of our sons live on the same block. They are in fourth grade this year. Meaning last year they were at this same school at Park Avenue. Nothing

048changed. We were in the same house living on the same block. The kids are attending the same school. And originally in the summertime when we got bus passes a week before school started, both of them indicated that the kids were walkers. So to our surprise, that made no sense. I spoke to I came to the transportation office to find out what was going on. And then I learned this information about mileage. I literally just Googlemapped my house from here and it's 1.1 mile. I don't understand why one the bus was removed. They said between third grade and fourth grade there was a difference. It is still a mile. That's number one. Number two, the kids the bus was then reinstated. They did give me a bus. They gave us a bus. However, the bus stop

049that they had was a bus stop that they gave my son when he was in kindergarten in 2021. I pulled up the email that I had sent to transportation back in 2021 that stated that the stop that they gave my kindergartenner had no sidewalks. So, literally, I was standing in the street with the child. It was an issue then and it got resolved and changed. Every year since then, there's been an issue with that stop versus the block over, which is actually our block where there's two sidewalks that my child can stand on. I did reach out, I sent a email to the superintendent last night and I also CCD of transportation because there has to be a change. As a parent, I cannot feel comfortable leaving in the mornings knowing that my child is

050going to stand in the street. It's fall is coming, winter is coming. Today it was raining. Thank God my husband took off because he was able to stand out there, but we are a working family. We are not able to take our child to school. My child has to get on the bus. And as the young lady said over there, the parent, we're taxpayers. My child is entitled to a bus, period. He's not a big high schooler. He's in the fourth grade. He's still young. And I would not feel safe with him standing in the street. In my email, I also indicated that where we're located, the block that the two blocks that go down the street go to the Dodge dealership where sometimes some of the um employees there, I guess they're bringing the

051cars or whatever it is, they're flying down the block. I cannot be fine with the fact that those two boys are standing in the street when the bus stop could be moved just one block over. So, I know that um Superintendent Spence sent me an email basically saying that it would not be changed and based on the New York State Department of Safety Routts and safety stop guidelines, which is 160 pages. I printed out the parts that re reference um the school bus stops. They talk about the district making judgment calls. They talk about how sidewalks um need to be reasonably safe. They're hazards if there's no sidewalk. It talks about where the where the footage should be. And again, I don't understand why if this is already been a complaint, I understand if computers

052are in place to make things effective and efficient. However, there has to be special cases. There needs to be human hands that actually look at those specialized cases and not just send something to the masses. As I said, both of our families are working families. We do not have time in the morning to take our children to school cuz if that were the case, I wouldn't be up here right now. However, that's not the case. So, something has to give. We are not accepting as Amityville residents. We're not accepting that our children are going to stand in the street. It's ridiculous. And the bus actually, my husband was out there yesterday and today. The bus, I think, went around and literally came down our block and passed our house, which doesn't make sense to me.

053So, if the superintendent of um transportation and the superintendent of Amnville want to come out there, I have video, I have pictures. I will go out there. My husband will go out there to show you, but my children cannot stand in the street. >> Thank you. So, we have the information and um you said you sent an email to Dr. Talbert. So, um she'll get back in contact with you and we'll follow up on the matter. >> Thank you. >> I did have the opportunity to respond to Miss Carter to let you know we would be looking into your matter. So, I don't know if that communication came before from Mr. dispense before or after my response. But either way, we will certainly follow up and get back with you. >> Hi, Wendy Canestra. Wood

054Avenueville. I'm sure some of you saw that there weren't enough agendas there. So, just a reminder, you need to print enough agendas for everybody. That's okay. Just It's okay. Next time, just have more. Um to the mom, awesome job advocating. Awesome job. Um a couple of things. Uh I saw one of the previous speakers spoke about crossing guards, which is really important given uh all this road work. Um I was at the village meeting that didn't go very far, but there is a liaison with the district um that is assigned to the school district. I'm wondering if it would behoove the district to have top brass, the superintendent, make some of these calls to the directly to the mayor to put a little bit uh thumb on the scale to try to get things done

055for our children for safety. That seems like an easy thing to do. Um, the other thing with mileage that came up is the third graders currently have a half a mile, but you're considering a referendum in the spring to make it longer mile from a half a mile to one mile, which would cut off a significant number of third graders. If we're talking about safety, I'm not sure why we would extend that mileage further and not keep it at half or even consider half for third grade and half for fourth grade. I mean, if it's student safety first, I understand park is three through five, but just because some students um I understand the hardship for parents and that is tough when you have to follow the law that some children in the same household

056may be privy to a bus and some may not. But we're penalizing all kids and all families because of that. The children can choose to walk together or they can one get on or not. It's not a great situation, but I don't think I don't think extending that really makes a lot of sense. Um, I noticed on the agenda there are for the next meeting that there are some policies for second readings. I think there are some that you missed that are not on there. I think the agenda one dissemination or something's on there. There are quite a few I think that are not on there that still need to be that were a June first reading that were June for first readings but aren't on there for all the way in September this whole

057time. Months went by without that. Uh the last thing is um by the way I understand logistics and everything. Children should not be standing in the street. I feel like you got to fix that. You got to get that done. Board of Education is advocates for the community. You need to get on that. Um the last thing is about the removal of stuff for the mascot. $13,000 for the bleachers, $10,000 for banner signs, and 10,000 for windcreens. Uh what why did it cost $13,000 on bleaches? I believe when we did a walkth through, you could just peel the decals, the banners, or like the windcreens. Why is it costing $10,000? Just cuz you take something down doesn't mean mean you have to replace it right away. I know you have $2 million you got, but

058I'm just wondering, for instance, with the bleachers, why is that 13,000? I remember doing a walk through and those things were easily pulled off. >> Um, Dr. Calvin, I'm not too sure if you want to answer that now or not in regards to I'm not too sure if it's easily peeled off or not. So I I think it was it it took more than to come off, but I'm not too certain. I want to I don't want to speak out of turn. So um just kind of I'm going to have some maybe answer the question and if not um I'm just going to give you like another 30 seconds because the timer did go off and I waited till I started. But do we have any idea? I I can ask the director of facilities

059to provide those invoices again to the board with an analysis that addresses that specific question for Friday. >> Okay. And how it was removed. Okay. Thank you. >> Right. Because if it didn't need to be, it just seems like a waste of money. Okay. That's it. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Kathy Ward, 78 Ireland Place. >> Um just hold on a second. close >> and just kind of speak a little bit more into the mic. Thank you. >> Kathy Ward, 78 Ireland Place. Uh, I wanted to ask a question about the policy >> just a little bit more closer to mic. >> I'm sorry. Thank you. >> I have to shrink. Um, policy number 1500 for discussion next week. Um, I'm here tonight representing the Bay Civic Association. We were informed when we went

060to um request facilities use of the conference rooms and things this year that we would need the umbrella coverage when we got a rider to get the umbrella coverage for the next couple of months to cover ourselves and and you. However, uh when our policy is up the end of October, beginning of November, uh to add the umbrella for a full year will cost us double what we pay for insurance today. And I'm what I'm trying to find out is that something that's going to be addressed when you look at this policy and is it something that is required legally or whatever to have that umbrella coverage. >> So when we get to that section of agenda review, we will discuss that. >> Okay. Thank you. >> You're welcome. >> Any other community input comments

061before we get started? >> I'm sorry. I'm going to be really brief. Um, in regarding the facilities use with the 1500 as far as insurance, um, those are st standard insurance. This is what I do for a living. That those are standard insurance. I was on the policy committee. Also, the business official at the time said that they ran it by nicer, which is a district's insurance company, and that these are the recommended coverages. Thank you. >> Yes. Like I said, we're going to discuss it when we get to that portion of the agenda, so everyone is updated. Okay. Any other community input regarding agenda items? Right. So, at this point in time, oh, at this point in time, I'm going to go to agenda item 2 C1, which is the superintendent goals and evaluation

062tool. So, can I have a motion for agenda item 2C1, please? >> Motion intervening. >> Hold on a second. Carol Hoff is first. No, go ahead. I have an intervening motion to amend the goals as per an exhibit that I have here marked up. >> So intervening motion. >> I second. >> Hold on a second to amend the goals. You have that. That was Megan. Nestman is first. >> Juan, were you second? >> Second. >> Okay. >> Discussion on this intervening motion to amend the goals. >> Thank you. Um, so I have a print out here. I I had um spoken about this at one of the previous meetings in the hope that it would be I'm sorry it was two pages um in the hope to expand um the goals to be a little

063bit more um defined or measurable. Um so it's two pages one I'm sorry. So if it's two Yes, please. Um so I have added some additional evidence under number one district leadership and vision one. >> Okay, sorry it's still making its way down um for consideration. >> Has it made its way down? Yes, I think everyone has. >> Okay. Okay. So, um we had talked and I think I was even asked that I would go back and give consideration to what I would suggest. So, this is my suggestion. Um so, under the evidence uh the strategic plan score cards, I didn't change anything there that Dr. Talbert had included. I had suggested additional evidence to be completed needs assessment on student achievement including standardized assessment scores, enrollment in advanced classes, graduation rates, attendance rates and

064discipline broken down by student subgroups. Evidence of stakeholder participation and plan development including attendance logs, stakeholder surveys, and meeting agendas. and a draft of final strategic plan documents that include a vision a mission vision goals and key performance indicators in the form of smart goals. So that was under item one regarding a five-year strategic plan. Item item two student growth and achievement. Um, another suggestion as 2.5 in relation to student achievement to say that by June 2026, increase the percentage of students in grades 3 through 8 meeting or exceeding proficiency on New York State ELA and math assessments by 5% compared to the 2025 baseline data. If you flip, it's double-sided. Um, some additional evidence suggested include pre-post reading scores for students in the AI pilot versus non-pilot classrooms. Disagregate pilot sub results by subgroup.

065Hours of AI supported instruction logged per student. Percent of teachers using AI curriculum with fidelity. Um, documentation that the POG rubrics crosswork to state standards. Percent of students completing portfolios and capstone projects. Percent of K to3 students meeting grade level expectations. Percent of students meeting reading growth targets midyear and end of year disagregated. Classroom walkthroughs documenting science of reading aligned practices. Percent of teachers completing science of reading training. Percent of students at above grade level on I ready diagnostic at disagregated percent of students meeting or exceeded math growth benchmarks mid-year and endofear disagregated observation data showing reveal math lessons are implemented with fidelity under district culture and learning environment objective 3.2 two for consideration by June 2026 reduce chronic absenteeism by 10%. 3.3 increase participation in advanced coursework by 15%. which suggested evidence of reduction

066in office discipline referrals, suspensions and chron chronic absenteeism in 2526 compared to 2425 agendas for the me monthly MTSS meeting team meetings survey data from families on whether supports are visible and perceived to be effective student enrollment in advanced coursework compared to 2425 school year. Uh, under four suggested evidence, additional suggested evidence, survey data showing whether families feel they have a voice and whether engagement activities are perceived to meet their needs, percent of district communication translated into top languages and distributed on time. And lastly, under five, additional suggested evidence include in report subgroup analysis and recommended actions for staffing boundaries and capital planning tied to the findings and include in report a crosswalk showing how budget allocations support literacy, math, equity, and other strategic goals. >> Thank you. Does anyone have any questions in regards

067to what was provided to us? Well, Madame President, I I said at the August 25th meeting that I would be in favor of measurable goals. Um I think what superintendent um proposed to us is good. Um but basically saying that we're going to do better isn't really a measurable goal. So I do appreciate um trying to increase our academics especially um in all academic areas really not you know math, science, reading um and I also like the idea of trying to reduce our absenteeism especially our chronic absenteeism. So I I would support that. >> Thank you. Any other comments? >> Yes. Um, I do support measurable goals as I'm sure many or most professions when they have their evaluations, they have goals that they can be measured on. Um, although I agree that reducing chronic

068absenteeism is a very important thing. Uh, I know that there's a lot of factors that are involved in that. So, I don't know if that number is a realistic number or not. It's definitely a good thing to reduce it by that much. I just don't know it enough about that to really say that that's a measurable number that can really be compared to >> Sure. the 10%. >> Yeah. I uh >> I know there's a lot of outside factors that are not really controlled by the school at all. >> Right. Um sure. Uh we and we do have dedicated staff for attendance and I think that that has always been a goal to try to reduce the absenteeism and this is just a suggestion to put a target there and if the 10% seems high

069I mean it's you know maybe we discuss a different percentage but but it's just a suggestion to try to establish a goal to work towards. Yeah, I don't have any objection to the suggestion. Just stating that I Yeah, feel like that maybe somebody that's more informed in that exact area might have a better idea. >> And I I don't um So, thank you so much for providing this information to us. So now we're left in a situation where we're just looking at this information for the first time tonight, even though there's been some discussion about changing some of the the goals and some of the evidence um for this um for the superintendent evaluation. So the way that I feel for myself right now, I want to stay with what we have, but we still

070can continue the conversation about changing or modifying any of the evidence that that we would like. And I believe that it allows for us to we can always um add some evidence. It's not a it's not a problem with it. And um please Mr. Sheen if I'm incorrect. Um if there's something that we see here that we feel is is really re relevant, it allows an opportunity for us to discuss it further with Dr. Talbert and make sure that we can put it in or we if we as a board would like to see it, we can also have it in as well. So, can we We're all we're doing tonight is just approving the tool that we're going to be utilizing, which will be the NISSBA tool. That's one part of it. And the

071other part is is the superintendent goals that that she provided to us. But if there's more additional evidence that we would like as a board to have in the tool, we still have some time to add evidence. That's that's my question in conversation and collaboration with our superintendent. That's my question. >> Just just kind of speaking to my So my understanding is that you're you're you are adopting the instrument and as per our pre prior discussion that uh the goals would be part of that instrument. So that was the understanding that was going to be done by resolution. So uh discussion of the goals um in that instrument is is you know appropriate prior to adopting it. >> Right. But I think also what's been added, it's the goals haven't been changed. It's the evidence.

072There's additional evidence that's being requested. So I'm not too sure if you got one of the handouts that I'll make and provided to us. So there's additional evidence that she's proposing that we utilize for the tool. So I don't know if you want to pass it over Leslie what you have. So it's not changing. So right now we're we're voting out on the goals in the tool. But any additional evidence I feel is some of the evidence I I think may be valuable evidence but we need to look at it and discuss it further as as a board as which evidence do we want to add to the superintendent's tool and which ones do we don't want to add. So it's not changing of the goals or the unless I'm looking at it wrong. We're

073not changing the goals or the tool. We're just talking about what evidence that we want to add. >> There's there's there's there's there's some Yeah. So, there's, if I'm looking at it correctly, it's like additional evidence and I think under >> Yeah. And please correct me if I'm wrong. >> So, I guess just to address Lisa, you commented on just my timing. Um, we got the tool filled out on Friday and I was working on this late last night and I finished it around 4:30 when I left work and I came straight to executive session. Um, a lot of it is additional evidence, right? So under one, >> right, >> um just asking for more backup to the plan development and how it was done. As far as number two, there is an additional goal.

074Um it's in line with what we approved last year. Um it of the 5% improvement on the test scores. Um, so this we didn't have a specific target that was defined for student growth and I did I and I did mention that a couple meetings ago. Um, but I was asked to go back and revise. So I this is my suggestion. Mhm. >> Um and then a lot of the additional evidence is really analysis of the data just like more ways to present the data to just give a more disagregated understanding to the board of the progress. Um we actually haven't like we haven't done that yet for last year. Um, so this is just trying to expand on an expectation of how we would potentially see next year's data. Um, so yes. And then

075I don't you're looking at me confused. So I I don't I'm not I mean I'm just trying to explain. >> No, I'm not looking at you confused. I'm just looking at you. I'm not >> Okay. >> You're misreading my my facial expression. >> Okay. Um, you know, Chris, you know, yeah, chronic absenteeism, like is 10% too much? I mean, it's really just kind of getting it into the tool so that we are acknowledging as a board that yes, we want to track that and we want to see an improvement of it. Um, because if it's not in the tool now, we're agreeing on it now. We're setting our expectations. We learned this last year. Come midy year, we're going to get some, you know, feedback as to how things are going. Um and then so

076on and so forth. Um so that's what this is an attempt to do and we were given and to John you you asked John the question I mean my understanding was that we were approving the tool filled out. So we have the goals and the you know evidence that the board would expect to accompany the goal the progress towards the annual goal. So, that's why I was asking um Mr. Sheenan if we were um if we can add additional evidence. And I I thought that we could add additional evidence. And once again, not that I don't support what you have here, Megan, but just like you stated that you finished working on this around 4:00 this afternoon. So, um I just I have not had an opportunity to really digest what you have provided to

077us. So, I'm not saying that I oppose additional evidence. I'm just saying I would like the opportunity to review the additional evidence comments that you have provided and even if we're allowed to if we adopt the the the tool tonight, can we add the additional evidence like at next week's meeting just for example? So that's that's just my question that I had for Mr. Sheenan. If we're allowed to if we're adopting the tool, does this does tonight make the final night that we can add any additional evidence? I thought that we were at if we do it in a timely fashion by next Wednesday for example, it allows Dr. Talbert to be aware of what additional evidence that she would be required to provide to the board of education, but it also allows us as

078a board to review the recommendations for the additional evidence as well. That's just my question. I'm just looking at the the guidelines for the tool. Yeah, go ahead. While attorney Sheen is um reviewing that request, I just want to um reiterate that the goals were originally shared on August the 8th, again August 15th, and again on September the 5th. When there is a strategic plan that is to be developed, many of the items that are presented will be considered as a part of the draft action plan. Um, not necessarily the goal. For example, increase participation in advanced coursework by 15%. that may be questionable to navigate appropriately because schedules have been done for the year. Um, budget determines which advanced courses are offered and student selections have already been done. As it pertains to chronic

079absenteeism, there's always a concerted effort to decrease that. We should be mindful that the district has one attendance teacher who is working between the middle and the high school as well as social workers who have been cut from the budget. I would hope that as we are planning for our 26 27 school year that we would incorporate the ne the necessary personnel and mechanisms to support um further reduction of chronic absenteeism and that doesn't mean that we will not continue to focus on reducing chronic absenteeism. Um those are just a few at a glance that I'm looking at. I I think some of the additions are certainly worthy of further discussion. Uh some of the things mentioned have have already been discussed with principles with our cabinet um on various levels. So um the student

080achievement goal increasing the percentage rate of students on those New York State test um by the percentage stated um that's that's doable. As I've stated to our leadership team, this is the year for us to truly take a deeper dive and focus on our curriculum and instruction. Um, having the first year with a $3.6 $6 million deficit, a reduction of a lot of staff. The second year trying to rebuild to provide some stability. And this year is the first year that we are providing stability and we'll have an increase in our uh fund balance to where we can properly plan to strategize and build a strategic plan that would embed initiatives that would improve instruction to a greater degree and of course address many of the items that are listed here. So I just ask

081that we would take that into consideration as we are uh finalizing the goals and as it pertains to the instrument. The instrument is a collaborative decision. Um if I'm understanding correctly between the superintendent and the board um it did not state that it has to be completed upon approval. There was a recommendation that I include the goals. However, there's nowhere to include the goals. So I included objectives and I believe it was on page 14. I included objectives because the instrument does not require goals. Uh there are annual superintendent objectives and it states that we can list up to five and five objectives were listed with the evidence um that would chart the progress and completion of those objectives which were extracted from the goals that I've shared previously. So go ahead. Uh, I was

082just going to I mean it sounds like many of this is already planned for so there wouldn't be an opposition to including it. Um, what I did hear was the increased participation in advanced coursework being problematic and I kind of questioned that as I was doing it and I thought well I mean we could amend this to say for the 26 27 school year so that we're thinking ahead and you know when we're budgeting for next year trying to incorporate more of those offerings um as opposed to saying like buy 15% But keeping that in the foresight of well where do we want to go? Um and then the uh suggested evidence that fourth bullet could be changed that it's the student enrollment in advanced coursework compared to 25 26. So it's not for this

083year like you're saying this school year has started students are enrolled but you know coming down the pike for next year when we're middle of the year when we're looking at the coursework that the courses that the high school students are going to be presented with um to try to look to increase that enrollment or participation. So, I just I'm just asking one question. Can you just do me a favor, Megan? Um, just go back again to the first page. >> Okay. >> Right. In terms of additional evidence, starting with one, was there anything that you wanted to I just want to I I was looking at two different things at the same time. So, I just want to make sure I heard all your comments. >> No, no. It it it's at the um

084it's at the bottom of the second page. It's the district culture and learning environment. It's increased participation in advanced coursework for the 26 27 school year instead of trying the the by 15%. So don't put a percentage. You're saying by put a put a year >> for next year for next school year. >> So that that wouldn't be in this year's evaluation. I guess I'm just thinking that it's like if we're planning for it and we're staffing and we're budgeting cuz >> So, could we make that uh advanced coursework offerings? >> Sure. I I think we I think there's a couple things we have to just and this is where I I just I'm just requesting that I just be allowed to review this a little bit more. Um and then at the meeting on

085the 17th, we could just if Miss I'm waiting for I know Mr. machine is going to take a little bit of time to probably look at it. So, we may have to go may have to come back to this item and vote on it afterwards um as after we review the agenda because couple things like increased participation in advanced coursework. We we we need to look at how many advanced course works we offer at the high school. Number one, how many students are currently enrolled in them right now? And then that way if we're going to increase the participation in the advanced coursework, um I think it's a great idea. Let's make sure that right now how many students are involved? How many students are currently enrolled? And so how could we? So um so

086once again, I just I need a little bit more information. That's number one. And if we want to put a percentage, what percentage do we want to put there instead of a school year? So that just one thing going back to I'm going to go back to the first page on the district leadership and vision. I just need to be able to look at this a little bit more closely. Once again, I'm not saying I'm opposed to this, but I have not had an opportunity to read this through, ask any questions that I may have on this. So, this is that's I'm just asking for that courtesy just to look at this a little bit closer and then even even while I'm sitting here, even if I'm as we're going through agenda review, if I'm

087able to just kind of look at a couple things and kind of go from there. So, if we're able to, as Mrs. Sheen looks at it, if we're able to adopt the tool, but make adjustments to the evidence, because there's two things. There's evidence of progress or completion on page 14 and 15. But then there's also evidence that we may request and that's the other part two for the standards which start on page five. Right? So that's I'm just so I'm just asking for the board either a if we're allowed to adopt it as is, but um add to it. That's number one. And as Mr. Sheen is is taking a look at it, maybe we can go forward with reviewing the agenda for September 17th and come back to it. Right. So the regulations,

088what the regulations states is that what must be filed with the district clerk by September 10th are the procedures for evaluating the superintendent of schools. That's that is the language of the commissioner's regulations and that's what is that's what's legally required. >> So the procedures just have the tool. That's the procedures how how the process by which the board will evaluate the superintendent of schools the procedures >> it has to be complete that's what you say >> no >> so I'm saying that that's the language it doesn't say tool it doesn't say instrument it says procedures procedures being the process by which you're going to complete the evaluation, right? So, it's a it's a procedural issue. In other words, those it's not a substantive issue. It's a procedural issue. That being the procedures, how you're

089going to evaluate the superintendent of schools, the the method by which you're going to come up with an evaluation at the end of the end of the year. That's what the that's what the reg say. They use the word procedures. that's what you have to adopt. So I think what I'm not clear on when you're saying when we're saying procedure because all the years PS years that I've been doing this we we we we would adopt a a tool which is part of the procedure and there were times with previous superintendent that we adopted the the and I was not the president at the time that we adopted what we're going to utilize but then we worked on adding in how they were going to what the evidence would be and it was done in

090a very timely fashion. within a within a month's time. So therefore, um, everyone, the superintendent and the board knew what was going to take place. So I think that's where I'm kind of giving you a look. I'm not too sure. My my biggest question is, can we add to the evidence by next week? That's just my question. So, >> so the the procedure is uh you know you have a a a procedure um that starts with a procedure that is agreed upon in the superintendent's contract. Right? So that the superintendent's contract includes a section on performance evaluation. Uh the board shall meet uh devote a meeting during the months of January or February. It would mean during the month of May or June and each year of the superintendent's employment by the district to evaluations

091in executive session of her performance and her work relationship with the board. Evaluation shall be based upon performance criteria developed and agreed upon by the board of education in consultation with the superintendent of schools. Such said criteria shall be developed no later than October 15th of each year and shall be reduced in writing in a form developed by the board of education in consultation with the superintendent of schools. The midyear and final evaluations each year shall be reduced into writing and superintendent provide a copy of the written evaluation uh 5 days prior to uh that the meeting with the board of education. So there there is a procedure currently in the contract uh with the superintendent of schools for performance evaluation and it sets forth the the procedure by which you're going to evaluate the

092superintendent of schools. It's already been agreed up to between the board and the superintendent of schools. In terms of um the criteria, it provides a process by which you're going to be developing the criteria. It has a deadline of October 15th for the process of developing that criteria. The criteria is uh the stated the method by the standards by which you're going to assess the performance of the superintendent of schools. And in my opinion that would include the evidence by which you're going to judge and got standard. So the procedure that the outline of the procedure is set forth already in the contract. The contract already sets forth the procedure by which you're going to develop the the the criteria performance criteria to be developed by the board in consultation with the superintendent. >> All

093right. So um this is my recommendation. I there was intervening motion to amend the agenda to add the goals. Right. We did a first and second. We just had a discussion on it. I'm just going to try to wrap this up. Um, I think everyone has had an opportunity to to voice their opinion on it. If I'm and if please correct me, Mr. Sheen, if I'm hearing you incorrectly, I I just kind of feel that once again, I do I'm okay with adding evidence, but I just need to review the information and I would like to look at adding any additional evidence evidence on next on the 17th. but go ahead and vote on our existing goals and our existing um tool that we're going to utilize and make any modifications um next week. So

094that that's my so we already have the intervening motion that was put on the table to amend the goals. So that that's already that's on the table. So >> let's do a vote on on >> the intervening intervening motion to amend the agenda to add the goals. So all those in favor of the intervening motion to >> we're just voting to >> what what we're voting >> amend the agenda right now we're voting on so Megan made a motion an intervening motion to amend the agenda to pro um to with the goals and evidence that she provided to make that part of the superintendent evaluation tool. So that was her intervening motion to adjust the goals and the evidence connected to what she provided to us. >> Right. And I believe it was there was

095a first and a second, but I don't think we voted on whether we were going to the >> My understanding is uh Trusty Mesman's resolution was to amend the the underlying document. >> Correct. >> Right. with respect to the redline documents, the the redline changes uh that she had proposed. >> So, right all right now, it's just a motion intervening motion to amend the agenda to add the document that you just looked at with the with the >> I don't I don't I did not Okay. >> I I don't think that was a a a motion to amend the agenda. It was a motion to amend the underlying document. >> Right. >> Was that correct? >> Right. So, there is there is a There is a a motion that that was on the table with

096respect to the the adopting the evaluation instrument. >> I made that motion. >> Right. And that motion was made and seconded. No, there was no um so there was a motion to approve agenda item um 2C1, but then there was an intervening motion that occurred with with Megan and it was seconded by Juan and then we we've been having a discussion ever since. >> Right. So there's a there's a there's a the current mo there was a motion on the agenda to approve the goals and evaluation tool. >> Correct. >> Right. And that motion included a reference to a document that included goals. And uh Trusty Mesman made an intervening motion to amend that underlying document to add goals as per the redline document. >> Correct. >> That's what's before the board now. So what's

097before the board right now is whether or not we want to approve the superintendent goal and evaluation tool with the with the red line. >> Yes. Do you do you want to amend it as per the redline document? >> Right. So that's what's on the table. Do we want to approve the superintendent goal and evaluation tool based on the red line document that was has been provided to us? >> Correct. That that's the motion. So everyone understands the motion. >> Should the superan tendant be tweaking this a little bit? I mean looking at it more and and >> yeah, you know, instead of us making this, you know, >> so so um the qu the question so the so go ahead. Just say that again, Leslie. >> Just speak more to the mic. >> Shouldn't

098the superintendent be tweaking this like looking at it and like she had a few suggestions already? I mean, we it has to be kind of some things can come out, some things can stay, some things are, you know, I'm just so I I think at at this point in time, the the question is um should there be more communication with the the superintendent and one of the things that I stated once again is not that I am opposed to any of the evidence that has been provided, but just to have the opportunity to review it a little bit more, have more of a discussion with with Dr. Talbert on it and then make a decision in terms of what evidence that we want to add in. So that that's the only thing. So right now

099I'm so I'm going back to the motion which is the approval of the superintendent goals with the red lines and the evaluation tool. Everyone's clear on that superintendent goals with the red lines that was provided to us along with the NISBA superintendent with the with the NISBA tool. So that that's what's on the that's what I'm going to call right now for a vote. Everyone, >> don't aren't we going to be missing deadlines if we don't approve it by today? Cuz there John was just speaking about the so >> something by the 10th and then another thing by the 15th. So what you what you're obligated to uh prepare uh approve and file with the district clerk by the 10th are the procedures, right? and and the the contract with the superintendent requires criteria to

100be adopted by October 15th as part of the previously agreed upon evaluation procedures between the board and the superintendent of schools. What you have before you now is the evaluation tool and the goals associated with it. And there's been a motion to amend those goals as per the redline document. >> Correct. So that's what's on the table. And if so, so if we approve it, then that means that we're approving the tool along with the the red line goals and evidence that's been provided to us. >> Yes. >> Correct. >> Right. And if we if we and if we don't approve it, then that means we go back to the original what's on the table. >> Correct. >> Okay. Yeah, >> I'm think I'm clear >> and just I mean it's really most of it

101is additional evidence. Uh Dr. Tabot already said that the 5% uh with the student increasing the proficiency on the the assessments that was what we did last year. Um if we didn't want to include the increased participation in advanced coursework, we could strike that or we can edit it like I suggested that it would be for the 2627 school year rather than a percentage. And to and to answer your question >> me >> yes. >> Okay. >> What I believe your question was can you uh adopt uh the tool and the goals as it's set forth now and revise the criteria for determining whether or not the superintendent meets that goal. And the answer to that is yes, but it's recommended that you do that by October 15th. >> Okay. So, now I'm going back

102to what's on the table, which is the tool with the red line in terms of the goals and the evidence that's been provided. So, I'm calling for a vote for the tool with the red lines. So all those in favor of the tool >> with with the red lines as provided >> and with the change from 15% for 20 to the 26 27 school year rather than by 15%. >> Right? So that's that's what's on the table right now. So all those in favor of the tool with the red line along with the language of increase participation advanced coursework by 2226. that's under the district's culture and and learning environment. So all those in favor I >> I >> that's Megan Mesman Juan Leon. All those opposed I >> I So motion fails to four.

103Okay. Have a motion for agenda item 2C1 superintendent goals and evaluation tools as presented. >> Motion. >> Chris Naring. >> Second. >> Carol Seahhoff. All those in favor. Oh >> discussion. So go ahead. because I so once again I must clarify as I stated before I want to look at the evidence and this information that has been provided to us by trustee me and I would like to go I would like to look at this and make any do collaboration with Dr. Talbert and make any adjustments to the the tool no later than we have a board meeting on the 15th I'm sorry on the 17th of September and our next one is is it the 8th or the 15th I don't remember which one but even >> October 15th so even by the 17th

104if we can you know make some decisions in October 15th after but I I really like to get it done by the 17th that way we'll have a opportunity to review and make any adjustments. That's my comments. Anyone else? >> Yes. I would like to thank Trusty Mesman for all this additional work she put in for this. I don't want you to feel defeated that >> I voted no. It's just a matter of having the time to go through it and I understand that you only completed it yourself today. Um, so I'm just looking forward to Dr. Dr. Talbert's feedback and then digesting this all myself. >> Right. I Yes, I agree with that. And there actually might be some budgetary consideration to some of these suggestions and some of them if you understand about

105lesson planning and walk through some of this is actually already in place. There's been evidence of it. So, um that's how I feel as well. And Madame President, if I if I could also say that the establishing the superintendent objective and goals is a very very important function of the school board. Um I don't believe we gave this the time or conversation that it really deserves. Um this is my first um conversation about this. you had a brief conversation at a meeting I couldn't meet uh couldn't get to which I think there were four board members if I'm incorrect when when was this discussed prior to this >> at that meeting that you're referring to >> right and that and that and that was and that was a quick conversation because I saw the video

106>> which that was mainly a quick conversation because it was only four of us there and it was >> I don't think I was there >> no that was the one that >> okay to my point this is very very important and we need to have we need to find time to have these important conversations. That's all. >> So um thank you so much first vice president uh Leon. Um so yes that was one of our goals this summer was to actually have a scheduled meeting to actually dedicate to this particular matter. And um as everyone knows there's certain circumstances that occurred with some of us where we had to make adjustments with some of the meetings. Some of them were very personal in in nature. So that's why and Chris said it very well

107that once again I am not opposing what Megan put together. I think it was a great thing, but I I want the opportunity just to look everything and I would say by the 17th that we definitely come back and we say these are the items that we're going to be adding to the superintendent evaluation. So I think it's it's a great thing. I don't think it's anything that's wrong and I think we all understand the importance of this tool. >> I guess I just like to chime in that this is a work session. So I didn't like bringing it today I didn't think was a bad thing because this is when the discussion would happen in the work session. So we're saying I want to look at it but we're here we're looking at it

108right now. So you know I'd like to see the board be able to just have discussions and just work together and try to hash it out like I'm saying like you don't want it to be 10% well what do we want it to be like and just finish it. Um, I know it's off the table now. You did call the motion to accept it as is. I don't know if you meant to call a motion to table it, but >> No, I called a motion to accept it as is. >> Any other discussion on this item? >> All those in favor? >> I I so >> to accept as is and we have until October 15th to amend. >> Yes. Right. So, >> right. So, we have to vote yesterday to comply with the New

109York State mandate or New York state law. >> That's correct. >> So, we could have just amended the motion to accept the tool. >> So, Go ahead. So, go ahead. >> I mean, the law for today would be to accept the tool, right, John? Like, the motion is for the tool and the goals with the evidence built in, but it could just be can we accept the tool? Well, you can it was it was the procedures the the goal the tool and the goals were on were on the motion >> whether you whether you revise the criteria for u the goals you have until October 15th to do that regardless. >> Okay. I So I just want to say I don't remember doing this last year so somehow we got by um but so I'm

110a no. >> Okay. So motion carries 51 and the no is Megan Esman. Right. We're going to go to the regular agenda I mean to the September 17th agenda at this point in time. Right. So with with the minutes um Emry is working very diligently on on the minutes and she will be providing us with the minutes hopefully by Friday. the the absolute latest. So that's where we're at with with the minutes. I don't think anyone has any minutes at this point in time. Going down to policies. Any questions regarding the policies 2B1 to 2B4? >> So next I um we skipped the presentation. So I um last year in September we had a presentation or sort of a summary of what the building level leaders were looking at for their goals for the year.

111And um I was wondering if we can do that again. Um in addition to over the summer, I don't remember June or July, Miss Stevens, you gave us a update on some curriculum goals and intentions. And there was also a discussion that there would be like a part two, a follow-up since it was sort of higher level at that point. So we haven't discussed what a presentation for September 17th. So >> So you're suggesting this building level leaders um information about how the start of school went and then um >> last year they also presented their goals for each building. What was the second part? The curriculum. >> The uh part two of Miss Stevens curriculum. I forget when you had done that. Um I think it'd be nice to hear about from the building

112level leaders in terms of the goals for this year. And then what we can find out is maybe the for the part two for the curriculum. If not in um if not at the September 17th meeting, then maybe at then at the October 15th meeting to do that. >> Is anybody else? I don't. So, >> I mean I mean it would be nice to do it in September because we are opening schools. By the time you're in October, you're kind of into the swing of things hopefully >> and and we might have other presentations we would like to do in October. >> So, there's if we do the building um if we do the building principles, that's five presentations from each of the building principles. if we leave it to like two to three minutes

113hypothetically. Um I'm I I do want part two of the curriculum, but I'm just saying can we look at it at the October 15th meeting? That's just my recommendation. >> Look at what at all of them for October or just the curriculum? >> No, just the curriculum. >> Okay. So building level? Yes. >> At the next meeting and then curriculum in the following meeting. >> Yes. >> The building level leaders weren't what >> I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Okay. I said if I said building level leaders, I I meant the building administration. >> No, I was going to say because it was just posted and hired >> here at the next meeting. So, >> right. Okay. Thank you. >> Yeah, I I understood what you said building. Yeah, >> I I got it. >> I apologize.

114>> No, I got it. >> All right. So, building level principles with their goals and then we'll do a curriculum update in October. >> Any any additional questions regarding minutes? Right now we're to policies. So with with the policies, our next policy committee meeting is September 29th. Um the policies that are here are for the second and hopefully final reading and there are some additional policies and I don't think from the corrective action plan that need to um be on here, but if they're not here then we'll definitely make sure they're on for the October 15th meeting. Right. That's that's right. Madame President, I um I took the liberty of going into the corrective action plan, finding those policies, having conversations with NISBA, getting sample policies from NISBA, and the board's aware that I took

115a look at them, forward them over to our legal council for review. You are in receipt of them, correct? That is correct. And we do anticipate that we should have those reviewed and back to the board by our next meeting for the board to review. Correct. >> That is correct. >> Um the only thing Mr. um first vice president Leon the the policy committee has not looked at these policies at all. So typically what happens is the policy committee will look at it then we we make any recommended changes then we send it over to legal and then we go from there. So the policy committee is will be meeting on September 29th and this will be these policies will be addressed at that particular meeting. So therefore we definitely will have it for the

116October um 15th meeting. >> Well they will be ready >> in advance. >> These are required policies that were on our um corrective action plan that would it be wise to put them on our next meeting? Once again, if we want to do that without the policy committee take a look at it, that that's up to the board. So, let's wait to see what legal says, but once again, we have not looked at it at all. See, we what happens if we get it and we want to make changes, we want to make any recommendations. So, it it goes both ways >> because really, I mean, we can make those suggestions at the next meeting. >> Yeah, I Yep. I would be okay with it. I'm on a policy committee. Um, >> they were required

117to have those policies in place. I would be okay that the first reading is with the whole board discussing if there was any modifications. >> Okay. >> Sure. There's no objections. >> We'll add we'll add those policies. >> Any other anything else? >> Yes. Um and uh response to the community member earlier can um either Mr. Shien or Mr. Schneider kind of review what the uh insurance excuse me requirements are. >> Oh yes. Yeah. So um I'm sorry you're correct on that. So there we and I think Dr. T was pulling out. We have we have guidelines from our insurance that we that we received and this was back in in February that the insurance certificate must um name anvil as the additional insurance. These include liability of a million per occurrence, 2,000 aggregates with

118no exclusion for athletic participants, 2 million for products and completed operations, a million for personal and advertising injury, 100,000 for fire damage, and 10,000 for medical expense. Name the organization that will be you using the facility as a primary insured as well as an umbrella excess liability. 1 million for general use, three million for organized athletic leads, 5 million for athletic recreational camps, and 10 million for carnivals and fireworks. So this is coming from our insurance company in terms of this is what they are requiring that anyone who wants to use the facilities must have. And Mr. Sheen, if I'm incorrect, please correct me. Our challenge is that for example if we made an ex if we exempt someone from having umbrella or excess liability for example then what happens if we exempt an organization

119from having the umbrella or excess liability then if something was to happen then as a district we would be responsible for those if there's anything occurs any expenses any expens It's just for if I'm getting it straight. >> Right. So, it's a in terms of uh the policy provides for specific insurance requirements and it provides that uh the individuals or or entities using your facilities would have their pro policies as primary. So with respect to liability associated with the use uh that is the risk of those using your facilities up to the coverage limits uh and those recommendations as to the coverage limits come from your insurance carrier. uh your insurance carrier has u an interest in and as does the district an interest in having the individuals using th your your facilities to carry

120those risks before those risks hit your insurance policy. >> So long story short, we as a district, we don't if we don't do it, then we're now liable. If we if we excuse someone from having this umbrella insurance, we're now liable. >> So, you're not you're not necessarily liability. Liability runs with runs with fault. >> Mhm. Um so um but it does it does provide you with uh a way uh your biggest risk is if you don't have coverage and the entity that uh is using the facilities doesn't have assets to cover a risk. Right? So the insurance carrier the insurance that they purchase backs up the defense and demification that is part also part of uh your facility's use. So if an entity doesn't have any assets what protects you from liability by that

121third party is their insurance. Right? They may be at fault, but they may have no assets to cover any any claims, any damages, and that may then fall to you. >> So, for example, right now, it requires that the liability coverage of $1 million per occurrence. Let's say hypothetically, and I'm not an insurance expert whatsoever. Let's just say hypothetically someone says, "Well, I can get um liability coverage, the 1 million plus another 3 million per occurrence." Would that would that be okay or that doesn't cover the umbrella? So, if someone was able to get 1 million per occurrence, but additional three millions per occurrence. So the the umbrella provides an extra layer of insurance over and above uh the the occurrence the insurance that's per incurrence. So if it's a single event then uh the

122per occurrence policy uh is your primary policy and that's the $1 million policy. If the liability uh from that single occurrence exceeds that $1 million, then the next level of liability coverage would be the excess policy. So >> and once you exceed the excess policy, uh the question is whether or not the district would be on the hook for any rema remainder by virtue of and typically the district is also sued for uh whatever actions in negligently allowing the third party onto your property. >> So for if someone is just using the facility for one day, right? just using an outside facility just for for one day for example and if they being that it's per occurrence if they got the if they had the one million liability coverage for example and then they got

123an I'm going to use the same example $3 million additional per occurrence to have a total of $4 million per occurrence would that be acceptable for use of our facility for that one day if they were doing something outside or something like that for example if it's just one Okay. >> So with respect to the sufficiency of of insurance and the cost benefit of insurance uh overall that's a business decision. uh in terms of uh how much insurance is required that that is the job of a risk manager right that that has to do with the type of use the risks the risks associated with that use and determination of how much um you know the rising the everinccreasing rise in costs of litigation and damages. So uh you know as as costs increase overall

124your potential damages increase and that's the job of a risk manager and that's that's the why you go to your insurance carrier uh for those recommendations because part of their job is risk management. >> Right. And it's it's I thank you for that. It's an we're in a situation where school districts as well as other businesses are forced to protect themselves when it comes to different situations in terms of insurance and whatnot. So we are are we are in a situation where unfortunately it's something that the the district has to consider and there's different things that have occurred in this community for years you know 20 30 40 years and now we're at a situation where there's a potential where some of these organizations may not be able to use a use our facility for

125this one-time occurrence because of requirements that they're now our insurance company is now requiring that organizations have to use our facility ilities. >> Can I ask a question? >> Go ahead. >> Does the district have the opportunity to bring any of these organizations or events to the insurance company on a case-by case basis to have them kind of give the exception for some of these events? I would answer that by saying that we, the district, me specifically, can have a conversation with our insurance company to discuss the specific organizations and what they're doing to see if our risk manager at our insurance company believes that we've mitigated the the transfer of risk to nicer sufficiently with these policies. We know it doesn't meet the spec, but are we able to or am I able to

126give you the board asurances that nicer said there's risk, but it's mitigated? I don't I don't know the answer to that, but I can report back to you on the the instances that we're discussing to let you know what their specific opinion is on the insurance they do offer. that's acceptable to all >> and that would have to be done as soon as possible because some of the organizations events are coming very quickly. >> I So that I mean that sounds like a nice idea in theory, but I I think we would need something in writing if we were going to >> Of course. Yeah. >> Yeah, >> that's kind of what I was getting at where it's not just us saying, "Yeah, go ahead." It's >> our insurance carrier basically giving us written authorization

127that this organization for this event at this location at this time is acceptable >> and it would be them informing you of the risk that the district could be taking on as a result of not meeting the spec. That would be part of the written analysis that you would be getting. So I think one of the things that that would be good for this particular policy as we move forward that if we can get that information and if we have to modify the policy then look at modifying the policy based on the feedback that that you get. So I know we're kind of crossing over two things between the actual use of facilities and our policy. So I I think I think it's something that we just need to take a look at to see

128whether or not we certain language could go into the policies. Therefore, everyone knows in terms of use of facilities. >> Madame President, are we still under >> uh we're still in the policies. >> Okay. >> We're we're still under agenda review. >> Okay. >> Madam President, I just wanted to point out with the facilities use that the insurance company has categorized, you know, to some degree the umbrella excess liability required for each category. So just for general use, whatever that general use would comprise of. If it's using utilizing a meeting room for general use, then that's a million dollar. If it's an organized athletic league, then it's $3 million. If it's an athletic or recreational camp, it's $5 million. So based on the tier and the increased level of risk, the insurance minimum um allotments

129have been given to us by the insurance company based on some categories, right? I that I understand, but there is nuance to some of these things where we could at least make an effort for the community to help them be able to utilize the facilities. I'm not saying that anything would change. the insurance company could come right back and say see our previous response and but if we don't make the effort then we're not doing what we should be doing. >> Exactly. >> Okay. So is it a consensus of the board for us to have those conversations? >> Yes, please >> to meet with the insurance company around that. >> Yes. >> Sure. I mean I'm I'm not so sure about going against the recommendations of nicit. That's something that's something we need to think

130about. >> But that that's what we're asking right >> we're asking them to look at this or exactly >> like follow the process to see if they will >> if they will go they will go against the recommendations of nit. >> No go ahead Mr. The question I heard is if is if the board is to make an exception to the nicer specs, what is the risk that the district takes on themselves? And is in some of these instances the per occurrences are above the spec but the umbrella is missing. What kind of mitigating factor does that create? That's what I heard. >> All right. I misunderstood. Maybe you if you want to have the conversation that's fine, but we need to take a a real good look at this. >> Right. So, we're not

131we're not making any changes. We're just asking for to take a look at it. Nothing is nothing is changing. >> I said, "Yep." Yes. >> All right. So, all right. I'm moving away from the policies. I'm going to agenda item 3B. >> Actually, Madam President, I have something for two board actions. Um, I'd like to amend the agenda to add item 2 C3, which is the vending machine resolution, which was provided to us today by our attorney. I'm asking for a second. >> So >> second. >> Go ahead. To to C3 to add the vending machine resolution, >> correct? >> So do we So John, is do we do a vote on this because this is this is agenda review. So do we just say >> No, no, no. I'm sorry. You were Oh, I'm

132sorry. I thought you were going to three on our current agenda. You're still You know what? I I reserve my comment. I'll wait till you're finished. >> So, do you we want to add the vending machine to to the agenda review for next for two? >> No, no, no. I I I retract it. I retracted and give it back to you. >> All right. Sorry. All right. We're looking at agenda item 3B1 through 3B88. Any questions on any of these items? I'm sorry. Oh, for agenda item. So, for 3A1, we're going to add um director of human resources. >> No, it's not. >> 31. >> Where? >> Well, mine doesn't have it. How many versions are out there? Mine says it. >> Oh, yeah. I have the one that I got on Friday, so maybe

133it was the other night. >> Okay. All right. So, so it'll be on there. Director of human resources. Okay. So, 3A1. >> So, no. 3B 3A1 is director of human resources. 3B1 through 3B88. Any questions on any of these items? >> Have one question. >> Just kind of speaking to the mic a little bit more. >> Um, >> even closer. >> Question. >> Central treasurer. Is that a central treasurer? Um, I know it's Christian. Is that like for the clubs or is that generally that's for the clubs? >> It's the clubs. >> So, the middle school and the high school. Thank you. Okay. Um, regarding the home instructors, is it is this everybody that will be granted the additional assignment? Because I was hoping that we would just start with those. I don't know. I

134don't want like to approve everybody, but then some people on the list never get cold. Miss Stevens, >> it's very hard to know exactly what we're going to need because it's based on students who have medical issues and who may be suspended. So, they take different courses. They're at different grade levels. So, these are the teachers who have applied and then based on the students who need it, we make the matches. So could we just approve who we need right now and then just approve as additional needs come arrive? >> It would make it it would make it impossible to have an approval before the staff member began. >> Right? >> So if if they're approved, no one's going to get paid unless they are needed for the services. So it allows them to be

135available for every single grade level. But more importantly, at the high school, for example, if there's different courses that someone is um different courses that a student is taking, it allows to have teachers for these different course areas. Is that >> correct? Correct. >> Yeah. I wasn't so much concerned with like everyone was going to get paid. I was more just questioning just true understanding of who was being selected for the additional assignment. But if I understand correctly, if we only approve who's basically being used this week, if we don't approve them and next week there's a need, then they wouldn't that need wouldn't be met because we haven't approved them. Correct. >> Exactly. Okay. >> It's ever changing. >> Any other questions regarding any of these agenda items? Um, I'm going to 3C use

136of facilities and I think we kind of intertwined that when we were talking about the um with the policies. So 3C1 use of facilities. Any any questions regarding 3C1 use of facilities? >> I I didn't review all the backup yet, so I'm not even sure. Are you asking us if we're going to >> No, no, no. >> Specific on that whoever applied for it. >> No, I'm just asking I'm just asking if anyone has any questions on any of use of facilities. That That's it. >> No. >> Um going to 3D1. Any questions regarding >> No. um 3D1. >> No, but I would like to know while we're on the subject of finances when the board can be presented the final numbers on how we did for the uh closing out uh last year's school

137year >> within two weeks, sir. >> Within two weeks. >> The auditors are coming next week, so give me a couple of days after that just to get a report to the superintendent and then it'll go to you. So, no later than two weeks from today. >> Okay. Very good. Thank you. >> And I I will note that on the um on 3D1 that the um the claims auditor gave a a very positive response that there were no findings this particular time frame. So, that that's good to see. >> When when I'm sorry, when did this happen? I I missed that. What's that? >> I think I think is just saying she reviewed the treasures report already. >> Oh, okay. Right. >> That's what she That's what I'm just saying. I reviewed the report. >>

138Oh, yeah. >> Um I'm sorry. I >> um now we're up to 3E1. Any questions regards to the contract? Contracts. Mr. Sheenan has legal reviewed all the contracts. I don't have the agenda in front of me. >> I took your agenda. Sorry. Sorry about that. >> All right. So, as you as you're looking at that, I'll come back to that. And then for 3F1, any questions regarding the the conferences? >> No. Yes, we have reviewed those. >> Thank you. And 3F2, adoption of the um professional learning plan for 2526 and 2627. Any questions on that item? >> Well, I had um is there a change to it? Um because I had asked that there would be the annual FURA training included and I had I don't believe that I saw an update on that. Miss

139Steven, Miss Stevens can give you the update. >> Is it somewhere? >> I did add the FURPA training. >> Oh, um I did make the correction that Mr. Naring asked about related to the mentoring. There was um some legacy language in there that we deleted. Um and there was one other thing. Oh, we fixed the grade grade level bounds >> when you changing buildings. >> Yes. >> Okay. Oh, and you added the perpetrator. >> We did. >> Okay. Thank you very much. I didn't see that yet. >> And any other questions? I'm sorry. Regarding the professional learning plan, any other questions? >> Now, we're going to 3F3, approval of the ASA entertainment entertainment group. Miss Stevens, could you give a description of the ASA entertainment group? Yes, they sponsor a BMX bike show for students.

140Um, that's part of an anti-bullying program. Um, there is no charge to the district. So, we did have them provide their insurance. We did review that with them. Um, and we did share the contract with Gersio so they could review it. Okay. Now, we're going to go. Any other questions regarding the September 17th agenda? Now, we're going to go back to Let me just get to We're going back to the September 10th agenda. >> Okay, now we're back to the September 10th agenda. Everyone is there? >> Yes. as president. Now, I would like to introduce um a motion. I'm looking for a motion to amend the agenda to add agenda item 2C3, vending machine resolution. I'm calling for a second. >> Second and it's all right. I would like to enter into discussion. So, a

141little bit of the background. This was I I did mention this at the August 25th board of education meeting. And just to recap, um there is a number of vending machines located throughout our district in several buildings. And the school district has not been able to produce any contracts between us, the school district, and the owners of these machines. Our finance office has not been able to identify any deposits made to us from the sale of these items from these vending machines. They don't have the school district's consent as far as I'm concerned to be here. Um, from our conversations, a part of that money earned from these vending machines should go to benefit our students and help offset our food program. The items stocked in these machines should also comply with our health and

142wellness policies. And to be clear, there are some vending machines owned and operated by the teachers union located in staff breakrooms. The school district has an agreement with them. I'm not talking about the vending machines. Um I I am talking about the other vending machines not owned or operated by the teachers union. So the question is where has the money been going from these machines? Have the owners of these machines been I hate to say it taken advantage of us? Have they been making money restocking machines and giving us nothing? If so, this has to end. And that's why I'm calling for this resolution for the superintendent of schools to take inventory of the vending machines, document who owns them, and to contact them. and I'm urging my fellow board members to support this resolution.

143Right. >> So, I think that um I know Mr. Snder has been made aware of this and he's been working on it. So, and he's been he has been providing us with an update and it he did state that he was going to have information to us. I think it was by the the middle of I think it was by that October 15 date actually October before that. So, go ahead Mr. Snder. The the matter of the vending machines is in the risk assessment report that the board accepted in August and we had agreed in an earlier board meeting to do a corrective action plan for that risk assessment and have that on the October 15th agenda and the vending machines are part of that report. You know, I have some information on them and

144I will comply, I think, with the general spirit of what um Trustee Leon wants on this one. Uh, we're going to take an inventory. I have a templated contract that I'm going to review with council and we will meet the deadline of the October 15th agenda for the board to approve that and the board would in fact have it the week before and it would include exactly what uh trustee Leon is asking for. Okay. >> So, with the resolution without it, we're going to do it. That's up to the board. >> Any other questions on this? Madame President, would you like me to read the resolution? >> I I thought you already did. >> No, I read my comments. >> Oh, sorry. So the resolution as prepared by our legal staff reads, "Be it resolved,

145the board of education hereby directs the superintendent of schools to perform an inventory of vending machines located on school grounds on or before October 14th, 2025, which shall include but not be limited to the owner and operator of these vending machines, the contracting parties, and the vending machine sales proceeds amounts. Should we add to this um that it does not include the ATA operated and owned machines? >> So my recommendation is to include them in the inventory. So you have an inventory of them. It's it it's not an issue of um that you're going to be doing anything with those contracts, but at least you have an inventory. you know where they are and that they are meeting the requirements that they are okay staff only. >> Okay, understood. Thank you. >> Any other questions

146on comments on this? >> I'd second the motion. >> We're not It was already We already did a motion for it. Right now >> we amended the agenda. >> So right right now right now hold a second. Right now there was a motion to amend the agenda 23 resolution for the vending machine. There was a first, there was a second. Now we're having a discussion about just amending the agenda. So now we can vote on amending the agenda to add this item. So all those in favor >> I >> to amend the agenda to add this item. Now we're voting on it. >> I'm okay with it. I to add it. >> So what was >> Hold on a sec. Hold on a second. So right now it's um Chris Narren, Lisa Johnson, Juan Leon,

147Megan Mesman to add the item to the agenda. This is adding the res. This is just amending the agenda to add this resolution. That's where we're at right now. So, I've heard from Naring, Johnson, Leon, and Mesman. I'm waiting for Seahawk. >> Yes. I >> All right. So, motion carries 6 to amend the agenda to add the resolution for the vendor machine. Now, I'm calling for a vote for agenda item 2C3, which is the resolution for the vending machine. >> I I >> I am a no. I'm a no because I just can't see how this is a priority beginning of the school year. I >> Right. So only reason I'm I'm no is because it's already been stated that it's going to be provided to us by the October 15th meeting. So that's reason

148that I'm a no. So it's already been worked on. We've already had several discussions on it. It's being addressed. So that's my reason for a no. So the motion does not pass. All right. So um so it's 33. So it does not pass. So we're going to go to the next. >> And I'm sorry, Madam President. I would like to amend the agenda to agenda item >> 2C4 which is corrective action plan. And by the way, these these suggestions are not out of the blue. My fellow board members have been apprised of them. Why they do not make the agenda? That's another question. But I would like to amend the agenda to add agenda item C I'm sorry 2C4 corrective action plan. >> Second. Hold on. Corrective action plan. M Leon may investment in discussion.

149>> Yes, discussion. At the August 25th board of education meeting, I called for this resolution but it lacked support to go forward. Um we were only four trustees at the time. Two voted yes, two voted no. Um so now maybe with more members of the board of education tuning in here, maybe this resolution will have the votes to go forward. Sorry, just give me one second. Okay, so background. On July 18th, 2025, RS Abrams, an accounting firm with over 75 years experience in this field, completed their findings of a risk assessment for the Amityville School District. They made several recommendations on how to strengthen our financial controls, something that has troubled our district for the past two years. And they've also made suggestions for policies for us to adopt. Earlier in the week, like I

150mentioned earlier, I did obtain New York State School Board Association policies, reviewed them, emailed them to the board and also our attorney for review, and we do expect to have them back uh for us for the next meeting, but the internal controls must be fixed by us and our administration. The board has been told um administration requires 90 days to present to present the board of education with a written corrective action plan and the corrections will be done sporadically throughout the course of the year. We have a community in my opinion that has witnessed back-to-back financial deficits these past two years. We must restore the faith of our community and take action to correct these financial deficiencies. Waiting 90 days for a plan is too long. Fixing one problem at a time here and there

151throughout the year, in my opinion, is not acceptable. I am urging my fellow board members to pass this resolution. >> Can you just read the resolution, please? The resolution reads, "Be it res excuse me. Be it resolved that the board of education hereby directs the superintendent of schools to prepare and present a corrective action plan for the RS Abrams risk assessment dated July 18th, 2025. The correction action plan shall be presented to the board no later than the next scheduled board meeting, September 17th, 2025. And that is exactly the same date that I mentioned on August 25th when I originally presented this resolution. >> Thank you. So um so there there has been discussions I think was there was discussion at the last board meeting in regard to the corrective action plan and I think

152Mr. Snder did clearly state that this is a plan that he's working on and that it will be provided to us by the October um by our next by October 15th board of education meeting. That's number one. Number two, there are certain things in that in the recommendations from RS Abrams that are being worked on, some that will be worked on, and some that will take a little bit longer to be worked on. So to have a corrective action plan by next week as well as saying that everything's going to be and I may please correct me um first vice president Leon are you stating that things need to be completed by that date or you're saying to have a plan in place just for >> negative my rec um my resolution calls for the

153plan >> okay >> on paper >> right so um so we have been informed as the board that that we would have a plan in place by the 15 and it allow for us to have a more detailed plan with information about how everything would be accomplished. So me personally, I would like to leave it with October 15th that we will receive it and be presented to the committee at that at that point in time. So I don't feel there's a need to do a corrective plan resolution um in regards to this particular item. I feel as if that that's just my opinion. I don't feel that we need a we need a resolution. I feel that it's being worked on and we've been told when it's going to be provided to us. That's my

154comment. Any other comments on this matter? >> Well, Madame President, I just want to interject and and remind my fellow board members that this was presented to us in the middle of the summer, July 18th. >> And I just want to remind the board, fellow board members, that RS Abrams actually did present it to us, but they also they present it to us because we wanted them at that point in time. They wanted just a little bit more time. That that's number one. Number two, some of the items, and please correct me if I'm wrong, some of the items that has been presented in ours Abrams, they're at they are considered a minor risk. So, they're considered a minor risk. And could you just explain to the community what's the different type of risk that

155that one could have um that's presented and when if that would be helpful for the community to understand as well? I I I don't mean to be funny, but I I don't think I think from the earlier conversation, you're not really in the business of risk assessment. >> So, I'm excuse me. That's why I referred over to Mr. Snyder to please explain about the different levels of risk that that can occur in a report so that way the community can understand the different level of risk. >> School districts are required to have risk assessments done every year under state regulations. RS Abrams is of course an excellent firm. They performed a risk assessment on the district. They broke down all the operations by category and classified whether there was any risk of mistake, misstatement based

156on low, medium, and high. I don't have the report in front of me, but I don't believe there were any high-risk areas. There were some mediums. There were some findings in there that in my opinion required a corrective action plan. And I think it was noted in public session that you're not required on a risk assessment report to do a corrective action plan, but we're going to do one >> with a regular like audit. You get 90 days from the day the board accepts the report. We agree to October 15th, which is approximately 60 days to do it. I agreed to that date because I believe I'll have enough information at that time to provide reasonable achievable timelines to implement corrective actions. Some of them some of the things have been implemented already, some are

157in progress and some will require a more lengthy response in terms of how we're going to address it. The fixed asset comment if you remember is going to have to be a larger discussion. So, you know, like I said, there were no high-risk areas, but there were findings in that report that, in my opinion, I wanted to respond to and I wanted the community to hear that response because confidence in the business operations is our number one priority in my department. And you'll have a a corrective action plan that is measurable, where you can see the timelines on the October 15th agenda, unless you'd like it sooner. If it's next week, I'm going to have to project out a little bit more because I won't have enough time to do the analysis. And one of

158those items that I would then have to project would be the vending machines. >> Okay. Thank you. Any other comments regarding this matter? >> Well, the the vending machines don't necessarily have to be part of that. The resolution that we well attempted to pass at had a deadline of October 14th. So maybe >> but it has to be part it has to be part of it because that was one of the things that was in the um >> in that report. >> Yeah. >> So I um I am interested as well in this idea of seeing the corrective action plan sooner rather than later. Um, we had been given this report the same day as our meeting and there was although maybe some things weren't very concerning. There were concerning things with employees having inappropriate

159access vending machines. I don't remember all of it. Right. So, in order to get you have the report right there >> report right here. I do. >> But in order to give the board an update and like you said, if it has to be a projection, well, then it's a projection. Well, we have an update as to what is the district's intended action plan for each, >> right? I mean, >> issue. >> I'm sorry. I'm sorry to to to cut you off, but it's not it's not that it's not that there's distrust or anything like that. It's just that given the history of what took place in this district, I think our community expect our board members to have a very very watchful eye on the finances until until we can put our guards down.

160Again, that's where this is stemming from. not distrust of any anyone here at the table, but this firm came up, they did their job and they said, "Listen, in my professional opinion, these are areas that you guys are weak in weak in deficient and this is where in my professional opinion um you you make these recommended changes." That's very important to me. >> And I I I thank you for that comment. Um, first Vice President Leon, I I also feel like you that there that we the community wants the trust back in us. They want the transparency. I believe by having the detailed as detailed as possible information for us on October 15th, which will be within 60 days and not the 90 days, allows for more clarity for the community, more transparency for the

161community to get the information. If we provide the information and it doesn't have all the details, the next step will be when are we going to get the details? How can we? So I I believe waiting just an additional 30 days on October 15th to get more of the details, more of a plan how things can be corrected is important and it's being transparent. I think the fact that we're having the discussion, that we have not avoided having the discussion and we're providing details to the community about the different aspects of the plan, then it allows us to that it allows the um the the board to remember um it allows the board to remain transparent what we're doing. So, >> well, we originally agreed on on Mr. Schneider having it October 15. So, I

162don't know why, you know, we're backtracking again and we want it sooner sooner, but it was originally agreed and that was not too long ago. >> Any other comments for anyone else who has not had opportunity or >> I guess to just to your point, Lisa, I mean, the resolution reads that it's to the board. It's not necessarily to the community. So, if it's a work in progress, if the board then has feedback, you know, questions, it's maybe it's not finalized. Maybe it's not published on the website, but it's it takes time, right? It'll take time. We might have questions. So, okay. Thank you. Any other comments on this? So, right, this is just to amend the agenda. So, all those I'm calling for a vote. All those in favor of amending the agenda to

163add this item to C4. I >> I >> um I I'll just say I for adding it. So motion carries 6. So all those in favor of agenda item 2C4, the corrective action plan, >> I opposed. I >> I'm Carol. I didn't >> I >> So you're a yes. Okay. So is three yes and three no. The motion fails. So the no is nearing Johnson and Cretz and the yes is Seahor Leon and me. >> I said no. Lisa, >> I'm sorry. Oh, sorry. Hold on. All right. So, >> we were close. I thought thought we almost had it. >> All right. So, no is nearing Johnson, Cretz, and Seahawk. So, motion does not pass. Two, four. Right. >> Lisa, may I have the floor? >> Huh? >> May I have the floor? >> Are

164we done with the agenda at this time? >> Well, no. I am asking to Can I have the floor? Can I speak? >> Yeah. Are you looking Thank you. >> No, I'm just saying are you looking to do another resolution or are you looking to >> Yes. >> Okay. Go ahead. I'm sorry. I wasn't too sure. >> Um >> I'd like to amend the agenda to add item 2C4. >> No, we it'll be 2C5. >> I'm sorry. Thank you. 2C5 meeting notices. The agenda would read as whereas the board of educa I'm sorry the motion is whereas the board of education is committed to ensuring all residents of the district have full fair and timely access to information regarding meetings of the board and its committees. And whereas notices of meetings are currently distributed via

165parent square which provides effective communication for parents and guardians. It is not accessible to many stakeholders such as taxpayers, community members, staff without children in the schools, alumni and local organizations. And whereas the board recognizes the importance of transparency and inclusivity in district governance and seeks to make information available to the widest possible audience. And the district already maintains official social media platforms capable of distributing such information without additional cost. Thereby be it resolved that effective immediately, the superintendent of schools is directed to ensure that all public meeting notices of the board of education and its committees be posted not only on the website and parent square but also simultaneously on all district social media platforms included but not limited to Facebook and Instagram and that such posting shall include the meeting date, time, location

166and agenda when available so that all residents, parents parents and non-parents alike are fully informed and able to participate in the governance of their public schools. >> I actually have a paper paper copy. So I this is um it was like lengthy what but it's very simple in that it's just a request that the meeting notice goes on social media. Um, for example, if we have a negotiations meeting, as an example, and it's not on the website on our published board meeting calendar, community members aren't aware of it. Um, they, you know, they might not see the hard copy that's posted in the um, administration building. Um, they don't have the parent square. They might not go to the website, but it would just be a way of further reach uh to extend to community

167members that are paying attention and interested and just want to not be in the know. Um so it's rather lengthy of a resolution, but it really comes down to simple requests to post the meeting notice on social media. >> So it's it's amend the agenda to basically resol the resolution is to expand the distribution of meeting notices. That's that's the title of it. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Go ahead, Dr. Dell. >> Just a point of clarity. Is this for board meetings? >> Yes. >> Meetings that the board is having? >> Yes. >> Okay. So, the meetings that the board has is posted by the district clerk. >> Yes. So, the superintendent's office does not host the board meetings. I think this would pertain to the duties of the district clerk, >> but does the

168district clerk have access to our social media platforms? >> Can can I'm sorry. Can I just ask because I don't know who is the person in charge of our social who who's in charge of our social media programs? Who's the person that actually does the post? I don't know. So for district post um syntax will post the social media notices for us. So the district clerk, she already communicates with them for postings. Um, so they would post the notice on social media. So they, so right now, so it's posted on the website. Is it also posted the syntax posted on Facebook and Instagram? That's the of the social media platform. >> Not currently. Syntax would post the notices on the district's official websites on Instagram and Facebook. >> Okay. >> So, all we have to

169do is just ask syntax to post it on the on the on Facebook as well as Instagram. >> Okay. >> sounds that sounds easy enough. It sounds like sounds like an email. >> Sounds like an email from the clerk to syntax, >> right? Okay, >> great. >> All right. So, the motion to amend the agenda. All those in in favor of amending the agenda to add this item. >> I is it is it going to be >> It can't Oh, sorry. I'm sorry. Go ahead. M >> board. This is amended agenda. Is it going to be amended to reflect the change that was proposed by the superintendent with respect to who was directed to do it? Well, does our district clerk So, you're saying our district clerk has the authority to ask Cintest to do

170stuff? >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, you want to just say it that it should say that the district clerk would So, it's not directing the superintendent to do it. So, do we are we directing the district clerk to do it or we just asking the Do we do we need a resolution? >> The district clerk is the board's employee, >> right? So, we're just telling her to do it. We don't We don't need a resolution for it. >> Don't need a resolution. Just >> We just tell her to do it. >> Tell >> John, I have a question. Is it appropriate to put on Facebook um and other social media platforms about negotiations meetings? >> I I interpret that as a as a board of education meeting concerning >> negotiations. Okay. Right. >> Because the

171question came whether not this resolution was um concerning board meetings and the answer was yes. So my understanding is specific regardless of whether it's a >> a special meeting or a meeting that is a special meeting that's the subject is negotiations that's what I think falls under this resolution. >> Okay. >> All right. So so as of so right now we're just calling for the vote to amend the agenda to add this item but the key is this. It would be the district clerk. So my question is, John, do I call for a vote to to add it and just see what happens? But if it's a district clerk, we're just asking the district clerk to to do it. Do we need a resolution to direct the district clerk to >> that this? >> No.

172District clerk is the board's employee. So we don't resol >> we just tell it we don't need a resolution for it. So in order to formalize this, would this just >> be like a policy of that we would review to on uh our postings >> later on just so we we know that we follow this standard going forward. >> We just add it to the policy as as that it'll be posted on the social media platforms whatever they may be. >> You could do it by policy. >> Yeah. Okay. >> Yeah. You could do it, you know, you could do it by resolution without a directive to a particular employee. You can just say they shall be effective today, effective hereafter, they shall be posted to social media. Okay. >> So, can I just amend

173it to say that effective hereafter all public meeting notices of the board of education and its committees will be posted. So I'll just strike. >> So you which which >> hereafter so say that effective hereafter all p and then I'll strike immediately the superintendent of schools is directed blah blah blah blah blah. So it say that effective hereafter all public meeting notices of the board of education and then it continues will be posted on social media. >> So you're you're saying board of education as well as committees. So any committee meetings that we have you're saying? Yes. Cuz like the policy committee meetings, right? Like people can come and listen in and or join by Zoom. >> Yeah. Just a way to notify the public. Yeah. That we're meeting. >> It's not Yeah. >> Okay.

174So everyone understands this is what the resolution now is that effective that all public meeting notice of the board. So everyone understands that we took out directing superintendent. All right. So right now we're just voting to amend the agenda to add this item. So, all those in favor, >> there's a there's a question from the district clerk as to uh what is referred to as a official district social media platform. Is there has a has the district adopted that? >> That's interesting, right? Because we discussed that last year. There was so there's so many Instagrams popping up for our district and there was a concern that was raised by the board last year of to try to get a handle of like which ones are the official platforms. Yes, we shared with the board. There

175is one Instagram, Amityville Union Free School District, and there's one Facebook, Amityville Union Free School District, and that is the only one that syntax will post to. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, um, where it says including but not limited to Facebook and Instagram, my suggestion would be to specifically state what they are. >> So, all official district social media platforms just say Facebook and Instagram. >> Yeah. I.e. >> Okay. >> Got to watch out for this. >> Right. Everyone's clear on the revisions to this resolution. Correct? Everyone's clear. >> So now we're going back to the vote just to amend the agenda to add this resolution. All those in favor? >> I. So motion carries 6. Can I have a motion for agenda item 2 C5, please? >> Motion. Chris Nearing is first. >> Second.

176I'm just >> Megan Mesman is second. So all those in favor of this resolution as revised. >> I motion carries 6. I just Yeah, at least I don't think you did that with the prior that we amended the agenda and we we didn't take a second, but it's fine. >> What do you mean? >> Like with the ones that Juan raised the vending machines and the corrective action, I only jotted down amending the agenda with the first and the second. >> No, I did I did amend the agenda and then I then I called for a vote for 2C4. I did it. I have I have it down for everything. >> Okay. Okay. Regardless, I Let's keep going. Yep. Um, I have an um another motion to amend the agenda to add um item 2

177C6, hiring committee documents. Oh, sharing of hiring committee documents. >> You just clarify that. >> Sharing of hiring committee documents. >> No, I just said go ahead. Whereas policy 9240, recruiting and hiring, requires that all résumés, applications, and rating pages for candidates under consideration be shared with the board of education. And whereas in a recent hiring process, the superintendent um did not provide such documents to the board, but only after being specifically requested. Whereas a superintendent provided the required information only the day before board interviews, not allowing the board of education sufficient time to review the materials in advance. Be it resolved that um effective hereafter beginning September 10th, 2025, all resumeumés, applications, and rating pages collected by the hiring committee shall be provided to the full board of education at the same time as

178transmitted to the hiring committee in compliance with policy 9240, recruiting and hiring. So this is typed up but I crossed out this the idea with this resolution um is just to have a more a flow of the documents to the board of education so that we don't you know while the hiring committee is also getting it so that we don't get a 150 some odd page document the night before our executive session. That's that's all this is asking. >> This is Yeah, that's the policy 9240 is for um the central administration positions and the AAA. It's the packet that we got yesterday. Um, so just to get it sooner. >> Excellent. >> Oh, go ahead. So I think it's important for the board to clarify um when they would like the documents. So the statement

179that the superintendent did not freely provide such documents to the board, that's concerning. When we had the acting assistant principal, the entire binder was provided to the board in hard copy during an executive session. At that time, there was no discussion on a preference to have the information provided in a different manner. Therefore, the binder was being prepared by HR to provide it once again during executive session for the board of education. So, stating on a resolution that the superintendent did not freely provide it and had to be asked for it, I asked that that be removed from this resolution because that was not the intent. Secondly, the preparation of those materials takes an arduous amount of time. If you have 10 people on the hiring committee and they interview 10 people and the rating

180pages is four to five pages per candidate, then you're looking at five pages time 10, that's 50 pages for each person on the hiring committee for the 10 people that they have interviewed. that times the 10 people on the hiring committee. There are two clerical support staff who are working in HR. Just providing the information yesterday to the board alone was overund and something odd pages that was forwarded to you. So, it would be helpful if you clarified what exactly you want, when you want it, because it is a lot of work to get all of the paperwork to you and that office was working diligently to provide you with the binder once again. So, if you can clarify it, we can provide it, but ample time will certainly be needed because it's a lot

181of work. >> Okay. So I I actually didn't read the word freely. I struck that um I would like that the board of education and I think I thought it read that way that we be provided transmitted at the same time the information is transmitted to the hiring committee. Um, so LA yesterday we received a scan of 157 pages with the ratings and the resumeumés. So I'm just asking that that be provided as it gets compiled. Doesn't have to be a binder. Doesn't have to be a hard copy. I the electronic copy was fine, but it would allow more time to be able to actually look through it if we got it, you know, as the process unfolded rather than just at the end of the process. >> So all the board has to do

182is clarify, >> right? >> When would you like the information? The information is a confidential process. The hiring committee has to sign confidential forms. So we are sending the resumeumés. We're giving the resumeumés to the committee. They are reading the confidential statements. They are signing off that they would not be speaking to anyone around about these candidates nor sharing their personally identifiable information. Are you saying that the same time that this confidential committee receives the resumeumés that the board wants to simultaneously receive the resumes of every applicant? >> Is that what is that direct? I um so I don't know if any other board members want to weigh in, but that is what my request is. And again, just I'm just trying to get the information and I also I'll sign a confidentiality agreement. I

183al I was sworn into confidentiality. I'm just requesting to have the information so that I can read it and not in a last minute scramble um before a meeting. That's so when the hiring committee gets it that we also get it. The board just needs to make it plain to me what what it is that you're expecting and what you want to maintain the fidelity of the process. >> I'm sorry. >> Can I just ask a question? What is the need if we have a hiring committee in this whole hiring process? What is the need for the board to see every single resume that is put in for each position? Isn't that the the position of the hiring committee to then whittle that down to make it a more manageable presentation for the board? >>

184We have confidence in our we decided to do bring community and parents in and plus the professionals that are interviewing also and we need to have that confidence. I don't think we need a resolution like >> so the package that we got yesterday included all of the résumés and the rating pages, >> right? That's correct. >> So, okay, all of the résumés that met the certification criteria that were presented to the hiring committee. So every resume that the hiring committee received and they had to screen the board received. >> Okay. So I would be interested in receiving that packet in advance well in advance of our meeting. We knew that you were down to the top two candidates over a week ago. So, I guess at that point I should have I think I actually

185did ask for the information the hiring committee ratings. Um, so that's what I mean I can revise this a little bit to say the the the screened resumeumés and final rating pages collected by the hiring committee be provided um a week in advance. I it's just the day before is just really cumbersome. um to review. >> Can I ask a question? >> Go ahead. >> What What is the goal of the board having all of those resumes? If you see we get two candidates that we're going to interview, but there's two others that that maybe I feel are a better candidate. Am I then going to go override the committee and say I want to interview this person instead? >> No. So then what's the purpose of reviewing all the other applications? >> I don't

186see why it wouldn't be disclosed to the board of education, but you know that's not my intention. Um but we have had instances where we came into the room and you know the the desired candidates maybe had already taken other positions and now we were moving down the line. So if you know the board would have could have had the information as well to understand like okay what was the rating and it would make the process more efficient. >> I I I think that um I'm I'm sorry I'm coming back in on the conversation. Um and I think it was already it already has been stated we we >> we have invited the community members to be part of the hiring committee. Um if the superintendent does not make a recommendation for someone to be

187um hired then even if we look at any additional documents if it's not recommended by the superintendent then we can't hire that person been there before under previous superintendent and even if we like the person if the superintendent does not recommend that person. So, let's just bring this to a vote about amending the agenda to add this item to C6. All those in favor of amending the agenda to add item 2 C6. >> I'm a no. >> So, no. >> Right now, it is four yeses, two nos and nos is Carol Seahhoff and Lisa Johnson. This is just amend the agenda to I this to add item 2C6. Can I have a motion for agenda item 2 C6 please? >> Motion. >> Chris N is first. Motion to >> second. >> Megan Mess in a

188second. All those in favor of agenda item 2C6. >> I. All those opposed I >> I >> motion does not carry. So the nos are Carol Seahhoff, Chris Naring, Lisa Johnson, Juan Leon, and Megan Mesman. >> Yes, Madam President, if I could, if you don't mind me saying this, this is brand new for our school district to have a hiring committee. It is a very good thing. um we are going to go through some growing pains. We are going to have to tweak it until we get it the way we we want it um all around. So, you know, we we're going to keep on tweaking it until we until it gets to where we want it. >> Any other any other resolutions before I call for community input or old business? New business. >>

189Uh Madam President, I do have a couple things for new business. >> I'm Any other resolutions before I call for uh old business and new business? See what I got. No, I don't. Nothing. >> Right. Um, old business. Anyone have old business that they want to discuss? >> I have new business. >> Well, this this might fall under um old business. So, Madame President, at the last meeting, which was early September, um I did talk about agenda review dates. For those that don't know what that is, traditionally the board of education, well, I'm sorry, the executive team being the president, first vice, and second vice, and the superintendent of schools would usually meet on a Thursday to go over the agenda. Uh, since I've been on the board, this has happened, in my recollection, once.

190Um, I did propose some dates by email for the board to take a look at to see if those would be suitable. I would just ask Madame President and my fellow board members if we can actually take a look at them and um and see what we think of them for the next meeting. >> All right. So when it comes to agenda review, it's it is the according to policy, it's the board president that does it. But we have traditionally always invited the first and second vice president to be part of the agenda review. And usually what happens what has happened in the past um everyone everyone that's right now on the board that's um and executive executive that our offices everyone's um schedule sometimes changes. So, we typically try to look at a day

191and time where it's convenient for everyone and I believe um there are some days and times that have been submitted to the executive team and so we will review those days and times and um go from there. >> Okay. Mad Madame President, were you inferring that the agenda going forward will only be set by you and the superintendent? >> No, I'm not referring that. I just was making a statement that according to policy, it is the um the board president. But I did state that it has always included the first and second vice president for the agenda review. There are times that myself as the president has not been able to make the agenda review, but then the first vice president or the second vice president did attend. So we as the executive team in

192collaboration with Dr. Talbot will discuss in emails the dates and times for agenda review. Be >> good. >> Any other old business? It's um I just want to go back to the conversation about transportation and one you had requested some cost information and I don't really have a a strong understanding of where we left that then we heard from the community members and I think that I would just I don't know if we need board consensus. So, I just want to say like I am in favor of understanding the cost to revert grades three through five Park Avenue students to a half mile. So, is does do do we need board consensus or was that clear that that was the request? Because I I wasn't sure that that was clear. >> If it wasn't clear,

193let's make it clear now. That's what we would like. And I and I believe um um I'm sorry. I believe um Rich, Mr. Schneider said that he would comply and would you be able to tell us that date again when when you would have that? >> So before you ask him for a date um it was something that I did ask of Mr. Spence when he was completing his report could he provide information regarding both if we you know if it was based on building based on grade level. So I did ask that if if you remember back if you hear back in the meeting I did ask that when he presented. So um now to uh trustee me's um bringing it up that now does the rest of the board want to have the

194analysis both ways based on building and the grades that are in the building um with the understanding if we do it by grades within the building then if any changes in the building occurs then we have to go back for another referendum to change that again. So, do we want to do the cost analysis? Is everyone in agreement to have both based on grade, but then also based on buildings? That's what you're requesting. >> Was it clear that it was the building Park Avenue was going to go to half a mile? Because his suggestion in the slide was going to one mile for all three grades. So, that's what I just want to be clear that we would like to see the half mile for grades three through five. the cost analysis both >> I

195don't need to see I'm interested in seeing the whole building that >> no but I'm but it would be the cost analysis for a half a mile >> um from 3 to five >> and then what would be the cost analysis for based on what's here in the um >> the one mile yes >> because he had suggested one mile for Park Avenue >> right so the referendum would be grades 3 to five would be one mile prek to two would be a half a mile and 6 to 12 would be one and a half So what we were looking at was to um comparison of by building if prek and kindergarten if that's a half a mile um first and second that's a half a mile and then you were saying three to five

196would be a half a mile as well which would be Park Avenue building. >> Okay. Because you said by grade by building. So I just wanted to clarify. Thank you. So it's by building. >> Okay. So it's it's two things. It's by by the referendum that's here that this this mileage chair is one and then the other part would be basically a half a mile from PK prek up to fifth grade. >> Thank you. >> And Madame President, >> so I'm just making sure everyone's everyone's clear on that in terms of everyone everyone everyone's consistent. >> I want to make sure that we're clear because I had written down different options by grade and by building. So, so when we go back to the drawing board, we're doing various scenarios. However, now we're saying we're

197going to do prek through two at a half mile. Is that all you want us to look at? >> No. >> And then >> go ahead. >> 3 through five at a half mile. >> Correct. >> And then 6 through 12 would be >> one and a half miles. one and a half mile >> based on a referendum or you going back to the old one? Let's see. Hold on. >> So, we we were starting to analyze various scenarios to bring to the board in preparation for the referendum. So, you could see the cost factors in different scenarios. But, but I'm just asking for clarity that as we go back, we're looking at the scenario just articulated. PreK through two at a half mile, three through five at a half mile. >> Correct. >> And

1986 through 12 at one and a half mile. >> Correct. >> Okay. Is everyone agreement with that? >> Okay. >> Yes. >> That that scenario along with what's here on on the paper as well. >> Um is is there anything >> second as >> Okay. >> scenario as mentioned as well as what's here and >> correct. Correct. >> Okay. >> Yeah, go ahead. >> No, I I just would like to know if there's if there's anything Mr. Schneider would weigh in on because he's going to be the guy that's uh pulling the weight on this one. So, go ahead. Just ask the board to give me tomorrow and Friday to let you know what the timeline is on that on that one. So, I can speak to Mr. Spence about that. >> Okay. >> Because

199he's the one who's going to have to pull the routes and do the reconfiguration. So, his data has to come first. So in your transmitt for Friday, we'll give you a a timeline on what that will take to do. >> All right. >> Those limits. >> Thank you. Any other old business, right, new business? >> Mr. Naringhart, I think was waiting for new business. Go ahead. >> Yeah, I just I have a question for Dr. Talbert. Uh if we can get a update on current instructional vacancies and of those vacancies, how many are being filled by permanent subs and what the other how many are getting filled by like rotational coverage? >> Yes, we are working diligently to close those vacancies to date. There is a Spanish teacher vacancy. Thank the board of education for

200your support that we believe that will soon close. Now, there is a social studies teacher vacancy at the middle school. We are narrowing the candidates and doing the final interviews on that. There is a leave replacement general science at the high school. Okay, Miss Stevens, give us an update or not. >> That one's just not open yet. There will be >> anticipated. So in terms of instructional vacancies, >> uh you did not mention the elementary at the middle school. >> So that was the additional one there. >> Okay. And that would conclude the instructional vacancies. >> Which ones are being covered by >> permanent subs like consistent? There's one teacher filling those vacancies until that point. Okay. >> Until it's held. >> As of right now, all three of those are covered by perm. >>

201Thank you. >> Okay, Madame President, I do have one item under new business. Um, we did receive a request for the school board to consider a tax exemption for volunteer firefighters and I believe also um volunteer ambulance workers. Um, I'm not an expert on the matter, but I do believe that if they serve a number of years, they they would be entitled to a um a 10% exemption on their property taxes. I know that that's something that um we have um voted for in favor in the past and I know that uh John our attorney gave us some insight on that. I would just if if it at all possible like to pass over to John to see if there's anything you would like to add about this exemption. >> So in terms of we

202we did research uh the exemption. uh we provide a memo to the board but also today we we did see that this exemption was previously passed >> uh by the board >> last year 2024. >> Yes. >> And so it is a lifetime exemption. Um if there is uh a we have to make sure that it was delivered to both towns uh because it was passed by the by the board of education and should be in effect. >> Okay. Very good. Thank you. >> Any other um new business? >> Oh yes. Um what is the plan for leaders of tomorrow? the timeline to start leaders of tomorrow. >> Our expectation is that it will start the last week in October. Okay, that I mean it is good news, but I um I think that we

203should be considering other before and after school care options. At one point in time, scope was brought up because we didn't know if LOT was going to come to fruition. This is a number of weeks that working families need to figure out that afterchool care situation and before maybe before and after school care potentially. Um so I think as a district we really should look at offering scope or going back to the concept of trying to survey what is there enough interest? I don't know if we need a certain amount of interest to, you know, be able to go forward with it, but I do think it's a long time for parents to try to figure out uh care in the meantime and then they might not even get selected for every day of the

204week, right, with LOT. So, I think, you know, we really should strive I I guess is this might be the last year of LOT. Okay, so we definitely have to do it. Um I sort of wish we were able to execute leaders of tomorrow a little bit sooner. Um um somebody mentioned the village liaison and I know there was an inquiry I just was there a meeting that was held with the board president or officers with the village liaison? I hadn't heard anything about that or I had seen that there was the concept to have a meeting but I just didn't know if it ever happened. So Dr. T I did so there was a meeting but unfortunately I was supposed to attend but I was not able to attend due due to personal reasons.

205>> Okay. So there was a meeting though. >> Yes. But I was not able to attend due to personal reasons. >> Okay. But Okay. So, but the first vice president was >> um I think it was originally it was supposed to be all the officers but then the um mayor requested just to have um the superintendent and and the board president at that time and then from that point so I didn't attend the meeting. So from that point I think that there were um we could look at as a board if we want to have a layers on a board layers on with with the village. So that that was going to be discussed at the meeting but I didn't attend the meeting. I have to follow up on that. Okay, that's a nice concept.

206So, you're suggesting that the next time you have a meeting that you would establish some sort of regular communication protocol with the village. >> So, what I'm going to do is I will follow back up with um Dr. Talbert and and Mayor O'Neal in terms of what was the outcome of that particular meeting and then if there's going to be a board layers on then the board can determine who they want the board layers on to be. >> Go ahead, Dr. T. Go ahead. >> I can share. Um I did attend the meeting and I did update update the board following the meeting um to let you know that I met with the mayor and trustee an Selmo who is the liaison to the school district and Miss Stevens >> Ansenelli. Thank you. and Senelli

207and I think Miss Stevens joined me in the meeting and the meeting was primarily to introduce him as the liaison to the school board uh to the school district at large and to talk about the covert project and to inquire about the transportation configuration plan for the high school. And so we had a discussion around that and we shared the plan um with the village that the high school was implementing um in terms of dismissal with the buses with the covert project and the construction that's taking place on Merrick Road. So DOT is continuing to be in touch with both the village as well as the school district um monitoring the progress of what's happening in terms of bus transportation and how that process is going. So as soon as we get an update um

208we'll keep the board updated um on any additional discussions or feedback that we receive. >> Thank you. >> Um Madame President, if you don't mind me asking. Um question for the superintendent. Was was there any talk about um crossing guards? >> Right. >> There was no talk about crossing guards at that meeting. No. >> Okay. So, can we >> can we initiate to have another meeting then in the near term? >> Yes. >> Yeah. That's, you know, I listen, you you can you can hate my opinion. That's fine. But if if we're sending a representative from the school, the school is for the children and a crossing guard is for the children, I don't know how that doesn't come up, but >> it wasn't appropriate at that time, right? >> So, so what what what

209was the meaning of the conversation to to update us? >> So, Dr. Talbert provided an update about what the focus of the meeting the cross and guard situation has now just come up. I think the when when the meeting occurred in August I think it was in I think it was it was in August and that's why I know I wasn't there but now we do have a different situation which is the crossing guard. So just like trustee Leon I mean first vice president Leon in terms of concern about cross and guard I think every single board member has concern about cross and guard especially with everything that's happening right now. So, it's something that we can address it, you know, tomorrow morning, send a communication to to Mayor O'Neal in regards to the cross

210and guard and whether or not we can get any additional course and guards um here in this particular area and if there's any additional cross and guards that are needed coming from North Anvil down here and and vice versa. So, the village covers the village and then I think it's Suffach County that covers other areas. So, it's identifying what other areas do we need crossing guard. So, it's something that can be that will be addressed um tomorrow. >> Okay. And then are you sending that correspondence, Lisa, or is that coming from Dr. Talbert? >> I can it'll probably come from Dr. Talbert, but I'll I will I'll make sure that something goes out tomorrow regards to that and I'll let the board know that a communication did go out. >> Okay. Excellent. Thank you. Any

211other just so that the board is aware there has been discussions on the crossing guards. There have been requests for crossing guards last year as well as this year as strategic interessions throughout the district uh where students are uh walking. Any other new business at this point in time? Um community input regarding non non board agenda items. So, Emry, if you can just reset the timer to um 2:30, please. And that's that's the one that we're going to use. Okay. >> Hi, good evening to know Cronin. Just a quick question. When will the community be informed about the decision about the vacancy, the board vacancy? Has the decision been rendered? >> No, a decision has not been rendered. >> Okay. And then I'd like to talk very quickly about the stolen tractor. Um, is there

212an update that you can provide the community with, Mr. Schneider? It is a crime. Go ahead. Um, >> the vendor that was in possession of the tractor when it is stolen is scheduled to deliver a proposed replacement tractor to the district. It was supposed to happen Monday. It did not because they didn't receive the tractor. We're expecting it any day. Once we receive it, we will evaluate it, determine if it's acceptable to us, and then work with legal counsel on the appropriate paperwork. >> Okay. The appropriate paperwork, the vendor is paying for this. >> Yes, ma'am. >> Okay. So, no, our insurance company is not touching this. >> There's no plan for it to be run through our insurance. I I don't know what the vendor is doing, but >> So, you don't know if

213the vendor is putting it through our insurance? >> The vendor couldn't put it through our insurance. The vendor is proposing another tractor. >> Okay. to replace to compensate us for our loss. And if we accept that tractor, we'll then be working with legal counsel to draft up the proper paperwork. >> And do we have any information from the police department where the uh where the paperwork was filed? >> We filed police reports, ma'am. The district did as did the vendor. I haven't received any information back in terms of the police investigation. >> So, the vendor and uh and us both filled out report. Okay. Let me just ask a quick question. How did the tractor make its way to this vendor? >> The vendor picks up the tractor from district property. >> Okay. And when

214was it stolen? When was it delivered to the when when did the vendor pick it up? >> I don't have the exact dates in front of me, ma'am. >> How about the month? >> I think it was August. >> It could have been August. I'm not sure, ma'am. >> I know. We we when was it reported stolen? >> Again, I don't have it in front of me, ma'am, but it was as soon as we were notified that it was gone by the vendor, the director of facilities went to the vendor and filed the police report. >> And you don't know the date of that police report? >> I don't have it in front of me. >> Was it August as well or September? >> It was somewhere sometime in July or August. We don't know

215the exact date but all the information was provided to the board of education but we just don't have the exact date and we don't have the um it's approximately July August time frame early mid July late July early August >> and has anybody been in contact with the police department any followup as to the stolen uh stolen tractor >> as of right now there's we we don't we have not had any updates from the police department >> have we reached out to the police department to see >> not since I don't believe I'm not too sure. I have I have to find out. We can I don't want to say yes. I don't want to say no. So we can find out whether or not there's been additional communication. >> Oh, okay. Thank you. >>

216You're welcome. Any other community input on non-aggenda items? >> Mia Wolf, ETA president, uh 100 Court North Drive, Melville. Uh good evening. Uh first and foremost um as we get started with the beginning of the school year um we do understand that in light of the fact that uh there was not anyone in human resources and trying to make sure that uh the buildings were staffed in a way that we were able to preserve continuity of education. Um I am very um happy that when it is that uh situations have been presented to the building principles and then therefore presented to central administration that they have acted um expeditiously and trying to make sure that we get candidates. Uh the one thing that it is that I am asking from of the school board is

217that when we have people who um are interested in the position sometimes they have to wait until the next board meeting. So, I'm hoping that um we can have something else in place so that we can make sure that we get these candidates, especially if they're the individuals that were um our first choice um of the district and building principles that fit what it is that we're looking for so that we don't lose them. Uh we've had that situation happen many of times, whether it be perm subs or other teachers. So, um I do know that the the board probably doesn't want too many walk-on uh items on the agenda. However, when it comes to staffing and making sure that continuity of instruction um takes place and so that we actually have lessons and teachers

218planning instead of um subs, nothing against substitute teachers, but um I think that especially in classes where it is that we have our our regent exams, um you know, yes, we have the end of the year assessments, we just want to make sure that we um act as expeditiously as possible in making sure that those candidates get um approved as soon as possible. So um I hope that we are able to do that. Thank you. >> Thank you. Any other additional comments or non-aggenda items? >> Hello. Um I guess I thought it was going to be a quick meeting. It's not. So there's a lot to cover. First of all, I would encourage every trustee to watch this meeting back. painful, painful, painful. 30, 40 minutes on how to take a vote. Year four of

219being a president, you should know how to take a vote. I'm not sure what it is. If it's intentional, if it's not intentional, you should know how to take a vote. You should know how to do an intervening motion, how to take a vote. It's unnecessary. People are sitting 40 minutes. 40 minutes on how to take a vote, not about the discussion, on how to take a vote. Um, there were ties at this meeting for voting. I'm going to turn this. There were ties, which signifies the need to fill the vacancy. When there is a tie, for anyone that doesn't know, the motion fails. The community is being denied a voice by not having a seventh trustee here. The community, you should have a special election. You got $2 million. You have more than enough

220money. You should be doing this. Six people shouldn't decide who should be the community voice. the voters should decide who should be the seventh community vote. Um, as far as insurance, horrified by everything I listen to. Um, your insurance carrier is telling you what the standard should be and there is this um, I don't know this craftiness of trying to get around it. The umbrella would cover if there's a claim. the risk would transfer to the district to pick up anything over the general liability. You represent the taxpayers. I don't want my money spent on a claim when the facilities use per the insurance company has what you need. I am really disappointed in everybody that is trying to get around this requirement. Yes, we want to the community to be involved. There are people

221we know this protects the district. This protects the taxpayers. Getting insurance and the cost of insurance is the price of doing business and is the price of organizations forming. Pretty simple. Um as far as um sorry uh oh one other thing some of these answers you're asking for things like like this whole people are calling motions this repeating repeating my opinion my opinion my opinion everybody gets one vote you don't like it vote no instead we hear somebody saying five six times what your opinion is. It's definitely a strategy to stall, to confuse, to not call the motion, to try to stop the motion. Outrageous. Shouldn't happen. Um, and it's totally ineffective what's going on. The trustees that are calling the motions are trying to push the forward the district forward. Um, you know, for

222a progress should be a little bit stronger and just call for question and call for the vote. Um, as far as social media platforms, they were listed in policy, I'm sorry, they were listed in policy 9150. They're listed in there. It says what the district's formal platforms are. Um, crossing guard talk. No crossing guard talk for this. The board president wasn't available. There's a reason why boards have a first vice president. The first vice president fills in when the president's unavailable. It is outrageous that the first vice president did not go to that meeting to represent the school board, thus the taxpayers in that meeting. What's going on here? That's not okay. >> So, um, your your time is up. >> Okay, I'll step away and then I'm coming right back. >> Go ahead. Come

223on back. >> Do you see how ridiculous that just was? That's embarrassing. Unnecessary. Um, so first vice president should have been there. Um, as far as uh I do have a couple of questions. Oh, corrective action plan. No, it's transparency. We're talking about it. That makes it transparent. That doesn't make it transparent. Getting the report makes it transparent. Getting the information makes it transparent. I have to say, um, you know, on a school board there's a lot of red tape. if it doesn't work like the real world because in the real world um you'll always be fired from the private sector um for incompetency and like going against what your your superiors are asking of you. Um I continue to watch it. But listen, I want you to do good. I want the kids to

224do good. I want the staff to do good. I want everybody to be successful. the constant shielding to protect bad decision making to let's not have um measurable, you know, um things for the for the superintendent's goals, you know, evidence. It's outrageous. You're the board. You're the governing body. You want to have an evaluation to measure the evidence. And instead, it's constant shielding. It's constant shielding. Um so that's that. That's what I had to say about that. Um, I do have a couple of things. I foiled for something. The the district missed the foil deadlines out of compliance with the law. Missed the appeal. Didn't respond to the appeal. The uh foil access um officer answered my foil appeal, which is against the law. The foil appeal officer has to answer it, which is the

225superintendent. Um, that didn't happen until I had to send an email. But what you should all know, this board, you should be listening, is that I foiled for something and it was denied saying it doesn't exist. You all know that I was on the board of education and saw those documents, right? So, I know that they exist. So, you're saying they don't exist. So, here's connect the dots. If they're saying no to me, I know for a fact they exist. What other foils are they denying don't exist? That's for you to dig deeper in. What does that mean? I know these exist. I've seen them. Um, okay. My next question is, what are the grades for honor roll and high honor roll? >> We have your question responsible for >> I mean the superintendent's right

226there. Mary Stevens is right there. What is the grade for honor roll and high honor roll? You'll get back to me. You're saying you'll get back to me. you don't know this. If if you're saying you don't know this, you should be fired if you don't know the answer to what honor roll is or high honor roll. Is it 85 and 90, which is standard? Is that what it is? >> So, they just stated that it they will get back to you on it. >> Miss Johnson, you represent the community. You are outrageous that you won't allow that question to be answered. >> Any other questions that you have for us? >> Yes, I do. I hope that entire communities listening to this stonewalling. Yes. My next question is what is the cap on classes

227at the high school level? >> We have your question. >> So you're just not going to answer community members. You represent the board of education. >> So >> I mean you you represent the community. You're elected by the community. You represent every single resident. Miss Kenestro, we have your question in regards to what is the cap at the high school level for the classes and we'll the answer will be we'll provide it backed. >> Here's the problem. You never answer me. I never get an email. You never answer me at the next meeting. When why can't you answer me right now? You never answer questions. There's no follow-up. >> We have your question. Anything else? >> All the other board trustees should be horrified. I don't actually give a crap whether you like me or

228not. I am a taxpayer of this district. I am a constituent. Every single one of you represent me. Stonewalling is an issue. We're coming for your seats in May. Any other questions regarding non-aggend items. Can I have a motion to adjourn the meeting at 11:01? >> Second. >> Leslie Critz first nar second. All those in favor? I >> I motion carry 6