Amityville BOE Mtg 3/12/25

001welcome to the Anville School Board education March 12 2025 school board meeting I'm now calling the meeting to order at 5:34 p.m. my name is l Johnson and I am the board President also currently at the meeting is my first vice president Carol Seahawk second vice president Megan mesman trustee Caroline Fanning it's anticipated that trustees Chris naring and Leslie KET will be attending the meeting and um truste WN canestro will be absent today also present at the meeting is our assistant superintendent for finance and operation Miss Olivia batti assistant superintendent for human resources Dr Bri waight and assistant superintendent for cc instruction Mary Stevens also president time it's legal John she at this point in time at 5:35 p.m. can I have a motion to enter into executive session for advice from Council regarding ATA

002Grievances and ATA grievance update I should say and litigation matters second all right so I have um Carol Seahawk as first and Megan mman as second and all those in favor I I it carries 40 we anticipate res resuming open at 7.m thank you the exit is closed to we are currently sitting there's no smoking that's allowed on school grounds and please silence your cell phones during the business of the board meeting at this point in time could you join the Board of Education in the Pledge of Allegiance please Dr tab I'm going to pass the meeting over to you good evening good evening everyone and welcome to tonight's budget session when we last met on Saturday March 1st we conducted a thorough line by line review of the 2025 2026 budget at that time

003our total reductions stood at 1 1.2 million however as we worked through the process we faced the difficult reality that some items though needed could not be afforded While others had to be added back in since that meeting we have continued refining the budget and identifying additional areas for cost savings as a result total reductions now amount to 2.3 million this demonstrates our ongoing commitment to fiscal responsibility so despite these efforts we still have a remaining Delta of approximately $749,000 the assumptions that factor into this figure will be detailed in tonight's budget presentation providing a clearer picture of where we stand and what decisions lie ahead while reducing expenses is critical we are also actively pursuing opportunities to generate Revenue one such initiative is leasing available space to a potential child care provider we have

004already met with one interested partner regarding Northwest and we are in the process of scheduling a meeting with another while this initiative will not fully offset the cost of operating a school it will contribute additional Revenue that strengthens our financial position every step we take to increase Revenue helps us protect and enhance the education experience we provide one of the biggest cost drivers in the 2526 budget is transportation as you know Rising Transportation cost pose a significant Challenge and tonight you will hear more about billing cost routing strategies and most importantly our plan to operate more efficiently our goal is not just to manage Transportation expenses but to maximize every dollar to ensure our student Scholars get to and from school safely and reliably without placing an undue financial burden on the district with that

005I will now turn it over to our coordinator of Transportation Mr Nate Spence who will walk us through the transportation presentation thank you good evening everyone we are going to examine some of the budgetary items regarding transportation in tonight's meeting as a reminder our transportation requirements for Amity are prek is half a mile excuse me prek to grade 2 is a half a mile 3 to 5 is a mile 6 to 12 is a mile and a half and the state minimums are K to 82 miles 9 to 123 miles we also have additional requirements for special education students they must be transported up to 50 miles outside of our school district and private and parochial students must be transported up to 15 miles taking a look at our 2425 costs we on track to

006spend in District $2.9 million to transport approximately $1500 students private and prial schools cost an estimated $2.2 million to transport approximately 550 students special education costs amount to approx appr imately $4 million per year summer school is $160,000 and Athletics cost $250,000 so these routes are built upon the most efficient way that we can do them so when you see a number for the high school that is not just a vehicle that is used for the high school it's used for both Northwest Northeast and also to serve private schools and this is the way it is for our middle school routes as well and the costs that you're going to see on our Maps again are based upon the 2425 school year how our routes determined our district contracts buses with our contractor in four

007to seven hour tiers depending on the route requirements this is to ensure that students arrive to and from schools with all of our complex in District and outof District Bell schedules it's important to note that routes are only build when students are on board so if you see a bus sitting somewhere idle it means we're not paying for it unless there's students on board we use different capacity buses for different types of schools for out of District routes and also IND District routes to make sure that we're not using a vehicle that is too large to accommodate the amount of students for that route here is a sample of our billing schematic for our large buses so if we were to look at Route 12 on the second line we can see that it serves

008the high school Park Avenue Northwest and it also does a 5:00 late run if we go to Route 27 at the bottom you can see that that serves Kellenberg it does standby trips if there's any um absent drivers for northeast or Park Avenue excuse me Park Avenue Northeast or Northwest then in the afternoon you can see it does a middle school route and then it goes to Kellenberg again so we're using the buses as efficiently as possible in these routing tiers here is a sample of our van schematic if we look at the Top Line av42 is a 20 passenger van that's built at 5 hours and that goes to the Lutheran School if we look at line 43 we can see that that goes to M Maria Regina it also serves Northwest and it

009does Maria Regina in the afternoon here's a map of our high school transportation on the left is what we currently do we transport 751 high school students that's using 16 buses and that's including the two that we use for our Tech routes that is an estimated cost of approximately $2 million now it's important to note that this is not just $2 million for the high school we use the high school buses for Park Avenue Northwest and Northeast if we were to go with the state minimum plan we would basically be providing transportation to only students that have special needs and that would require four buses and that includes the tech program at an estimated cost of $54,000 moving on to the middle school you can see on the left is what we currently serve we

010serve 184 students with five bus and that costs approximately $630,000 and again this incorporates the cost of Park Avenue Northwest Northeast and some private schools uh excuse me I'm sorry um when when he's done I'll take comments from the community thank you oh yeah so if you can just um if you can explain that um last time when we did the presentation sure there may be some people that were not here so one side explains one part and can you just clarify what it is yes so on the left hand side the blue dots mean their students that we currently transport the orange are people that walk to school the right hand side is what we would do if we went with the state minimum mileage and again basically all of the high school would

011be walking to school here's the middle school again the blue dots are students that we transport the orange or or students that walk to school and the purple square is where the building is located if we went with the minimum plan for State education about 90 students would qualify uh that would be a requirement of approximately two buses at a cost of $252,000 again that cost is included with the next slides you're going to see for Park Avenue Northwest and Northeast here's our map for Park Avenue again on the left is what we currently provide on the right is what we would provide if we went with the state minimums we currently provide 15 buses and again the costs for these buses are included with the high school and the middle school tiers if we

012went with the state minimums only 99 students would qualify for buses requiring an estimated five buses Northwest 450 students currently qualify at the half mile distance again the blue dots are students that receive Transportation on the left the orange are the walkers on the right hand side the orange again are the Walkers and the blue students are the ones that would qualify for buses which equates to 80 and we would need approximately five buses to serve that building moving on to Northeast we currently serve 143 students that's including the strive program so that's why you're seeing a number that's a little bit over what our standard preschool uh enrollment is if we were to go with the two mile plan for Northeast only 45 students would qualify for buses requiring an estimated two we currently

013use four with what we're doing now it's also important to note that with the plan to move the kindergarteners to Northeast I spoke with s at length about this topic and they've indicated to us that we are allowed to put the kindergarteners and the preschoolers on the bus and the state aid that qualifies for the kindergarteners can be extended to the preschoolers so we have an additional savings that we're looking at there again we've been taking student counts on our buses and these are our average student counts it's important to note that when we start digging into this the more kids we have on buses the longer the bus rides are going to take and it's important to note that the traffic and all of the other variables in the area are why we're using

014buses this way we had a meeting with our contractor yesterday to improve our efficiencies and we are planning on working together in some of those routes we also have our child safety zone study and I'd like to thank you all for approving that at the last last board meeting I'm waiting on the information from Eastern suff bosis so that way we can move forward with that plan and hopefully have some cost savings Associated once that child safety zone study is complete and I dug in and found in the past two years just this year alone uh excuse me this school year in October we had a pedestrian hit in North Amityville then a day later unfortunately a man and his dog died so three people or two people and a dog in two days and

015then last year in November there was a pedestrian that was struck by two cars so this is part of the reason why we provide the transportation like we do and it's important to note that we're all United to make our neighborhood safer and that humanity is never grown by creating barriers we grow and we build Bridges with our community thank you just can you just re explain again about the child's safety zone and what that study what the purpose behind that is so the Child Safety Zone study looks at variables such as sidewalks speed limits on roads and intersections and crosswalks there's a certain amount of points that are delineated based on the child safety study and when we reach a certain number of points it enables us to apply for a higher percentage of

016state aid in those child safety zone areas I just have another question then in regards to um transportation when we talk about if we went back to the New York State um requirements in terms of mileage we back to high school being three miles and and k through eight being two miles this no This Not only would impact the the Anvil School District but it also would impact students who would go to some the broal schools that that we bust the students to as well that's like St Martin and St Martin's because it's within our school district right they would be doing the same distance and walking for the um two miles for K to 8 okay right thank you any any questions go ahead yes I do thank you Nate um this was very

017helpful um I we only got the slides yesterday so it didn't jump out of me that you did provide us with the one and a half to $2 million savings that I had asked to see but you're essentially telling us that I guess I had hoped that maybe there was some other way to get the $2 million savings but you're saying we would have to go back to the state minimum am I saying that in the right way to get that savings out of transation because because we're moving K back to Northeast and so now it makes sense to bust the upk kids because we will be getting state aid for the kindergarteners that are on that bus okay and that covers the cost just just kind of speak yes because they'll all be picked

018up at the same stop locations but the state eight is comparable to our cost for busing at Northeast I guess there's no option because we have to bus the K kits that is correct yes okay um these numbers that you have in here the costs those are the projections that is correct with the 30% increase no that is not with the 30% increase that is currently what we pay this school year okay um okay I'll let somebody else ask questions Leslie any questions no I just wanted to make a comment if we go back to the Mandate New York City um New York state minimum you know we could lose funding for our children also State funding because we would lose a lot of attendance and we lose kids so and again the other important

019thing that's important to note is we already have a backup of vehicles and Walkers to our schools already so that's going to enhance the amount of traffic that we have around our buildings and and obviously the safety of our children walking and it's going to affect hiring crossing guards you know from the county and the village where it's difficult right now to get crossing guards that correct okay thank you can you can I just ask something that Leslie just said this like build on what you said what do you mean by we're going to lose or state a for the students if kids are not if if children students are not coming to school because they have to walk or take a taxi or whatever we lose the busing but we but but students have

020to come to school right I mean so I I don't know I mean up until age 16 otherwise right I mean the but they have to you would definitely see a decrease in attendance in I understand that but I don't but we wouldn't and that affects our state aid that's a fact I think I think what what the she's saying that it will affect our average daily attendance which is used in the calculation of state right so so it's not the enrollment it's the actual attendance that's actual attendance play a role okay thank you for clarifying that Chris do you have any questions uh I just one thing to clarify I don't if you did it clarify it today then I apologize but I don't just for those that were not here at the last

021one on the maps where there's the blue dots mixed in with the orange that's special education students that yes thank you thank you for that's why they are in the sea of Orange getting Services Carol anything uh question I have Nate U and thank you for the presentation are you considering something in the middle in between what we currently provide and the state minimum maximum that's not something that we've considered yet haven't thought about it at all we've talked about it a bit Miss batti and I but to be able to come up with a plan like that create several months months of preparation and routing to get the numbers correct in what we would actually need so realistically given that we need our contract is up we're going out for RFP now we only

022have two options to give in with the RFP the state minimum or our current mileage if we wanted to change it it's too late for this current round of rfps that is a question that I would like clarification from legal for right I think and I'm just going to I I think requires a a voter approval so that's what it is so we can't just say that we're going to go from from the like the three M requirement for the he so we it takes so we not take a I understand you need a referendum I'm just wanting to know what what options is Administration considering because as we all know we have a million or a multi-million dollar budget deficit to make up for and transportation as we know is you know one of

023the biggest drivers so if it's possible that there's a middle ground I was curious to know are we considering the middle ground but it sounds like right now no it's the state or it's the current Arrangement yes but we also considering a lot of efficiency so we're looking at all the routes and finding ways to trim back uh and we are talking with the uh contract Transportation vendor yesterday and that's when they brought up the idea about if we have the same staffs for precare and pre and it will actually reduce right things like that those little things that you do to redu to pull back uh some of the things that we can do lead bases will consider that all those kind of things will pull back the cost a little bit for us

024yeah just remember just to speaking to the mic a little B Thank You Caroline any more questions and comments um yeah actually that reminds me of I feel like I asked this question last time but I'll ask again because if I I don't remember the answer um how many afternoon routes are there for for in District or out of District uh I'm just speaking from experience as a parent I feel like my kids whether it's the middle school or the high school there could be multiple late buses so it depends on the time of the year for the late buses and also the leaders of Tomorrow buses are separate because they're funded by a different um Grant so when you see the late buses it's based on the need for the buildings After School attendance

025at that that time of the year the high school one changes it several times because of the sporting programs um and we also have varying programs without the throughout the other schools but could there be multiple in a day like I feel like the high school has a regular dismissal a 3 pm bus and then maybe a 5m bus all in one day that is correct yes is that something that is being reconsidered now the 3:00 bus also serves the Tech students that come back in the afternoon so that one is essential we are looking at ways to improve the um late run Efficiencies For example I've been looking at the leaders of Tomorrow buses and next term coming up next week we're reducing some of the buses there for efficiency sake thank you Carol

026do you have any questions Megan then go back to Leslie so the parochial schools private parochial required up to 15 miles is that what schools so what you have a slide here but where providing Transportation Beyond 15 miles right now there are a few schools that we are looking at to reduce for this coming school year 2526 okay a few schools uh Shaman is one of them St Dominics is another one that I know off the top of my head that is over the 15 miles and did you so in here you didn't show us what that cost amounted to right I would anticipate approximately 100 to2 200,000 depending on what we're able to reduce for those schools and how we're able to combine them onto other routes so and and it we it wasn't

027required to go to vote a referendum to provide beyond the 15 miles this was something that was done by the administration many years ago that has just stayed in place um I believe we were going to talk about reducing it at the beginning of this school year but as with the same Martin situation we wanted to give them an additional year to plan for that and not take it away right before the uh start of the school year so you had already started conversation with those families yes I wasn't aware of that um okay thank you and we're we're getting more requests in the requests are due by April 1st so we are going to be sending out the correspondents um in the next two weeks okay thank you lizie did you have something because

028then I'll go to Chris go ahead Chris for the schools that are beyond the 15 miles are there any districts that have anything kind of set up where you'd work together like if Copeg and maspa each had students going to those schools beyond that 15 where you can kind of save cost with combining it with them so that is a possibility um again when we went back to the beginning of the school year and I did our our first presentation on Transportation I talked about about piggybacking unfortunately we couldn't do any piggybacking plans because none of the districts in our surrounding area had that in their RFP and the new RFP that we've just written up I ensure that that was in there so this coming school year we can be the Anchor Point for

029our neighboring districts that use EBT or other um vendors as well that's great meaning like we would go to those districts to pick up their students or they would bring their stud we would create a piggybacking agreement so essentially I would go to EBT and say what do you have going where and what do you think we can share with other school districts collectively to save everybody money and then they go to those school districts and see if they'd like to combine the bus routes with us to pass the savings along to them so if we combined is it just a savings that we get with there or is it something where it brings some sort of Revenue whe they're using our busing it's just to savings okay it's distributed across the multiple school districts

030using the vehicles okay it will have been Revenue if we had our own buses yeah gotcha any other question from board members thank you Mr thank you for having me thank you as a reminder uh with Transportation the cut off date is April 1st and any applications that come in after April 1st must be submitted to the Board of Education via a resolution for approval secondly any parochial schools that exceed the 15 Mile state law must be um either B board approved or as you spoke of earlier truste naring um a central pickup point that is under the 15 mile distance so those are conversations that we've been having in ways to support our community and families and also providing the Board of Education with the cost Factor surrounding that I'm sorry Dr Talbert i

031i i the central pickup point so are we trying to figure that out and then for examp to that okay so for example if we have been transporting to a parochial school for 3 years and they exceed the 15 mile distance that the law says we can transport then we can dis uh discover a mutual checkpoint where those students will have to come and meet together that's under the 15 mile distance and so those are the conversations that we're having and what he shared with you around the cost of parochial um for parochial Transportation will be bringing you back the cost of what that would be to the district to make that decision okay so we're wanting to communicate this to the families as soon as possible as it was discovered last year um there

032was an extension of time but we do want to give families ample time to make the necessary decisions that may have to be made thank you for expanding on that thank you sure at this time we are going to continue with our budget presentations as we had reiterated during the beginning of the meeting um initially our budget started out at uh 124 million and the additional Cuts uh that has taken place around non-mandated expenses building and grounds special education comes to 2.3 million so tonight our assistant superintendent for finance and operations Miss buatti will give you an update where we are after these Cuts where we stand and walk us through uh two scenarios as well as pick up where we left off with our line by line budget Miss I just wanted to make

033the board aware uh not that we want to put him on the spot by any means but Mr Pete uh iino who's our network uh engineer is here tonight so as we look into the cost factors around technology he is available to provide any Clarity that may be needed in those particular areas thank you excuse me Dr tal just for clarification are we starting from where we left off which was at page 37 we will get to the page 37 after we run through the first five lines of the new showing you how where we are with the budget okay yes all right thank you so as you can see with the cuts that Dr talet identified and I gave the board a very comprehensive list 2.3 million our budget to budget increase is now

0344.11% increase and again the driver is transportation and we are hoping that if we let out the RFP the numbers will come a little lower if it comes a little lower it will help all of us this is the revenue budget that we presented on March one things have not changed yet because we are waiting for for the New York state legislature to come up with the state a which will be released around April 1 if everything works out the indication is that Foundation Aid there are both houses both Chambers are advocating for about 3% increase in Foundation Aid Foundation a makes up about 75% of the state aid that we receive the rest of it is expense based which means that you spend the money and you request for reimbursement especially in the area

035of special education and you have to file the necessary forms to get it and that's why we keep on talking about stack form stack form system for tracking and accounting for children that is a very important part of the work that we have been honing in on and it all depends on the kids IEP we have to identify the cost based on the kids IEP and send the claim form to the state we've been working vigorously on that in the business office to enhance our state aid so if we get a combination of foundation Aid increase and everything is f we give it a good foundation Aid increase and we also get an increase in the expense based State AIDS we may be doing well in this area and if we do our Revenue projection

036here will go up and you can see it in the next slide this was the original budget this is the cuts that we have made so far and this is the budget after all the cuts if you go to the last page of the new uh budget that I gave you you would see this number there this is the revenue as it stands Dr talber talk about a Delta this is where we are but it assumes that we will get the state funding $2 million from our state representatives that's the Assumption buil into this Miss Boi what's the line for sending the information for IPs and whatnot those forms the stock forms yeah we have this year we have we can go up to back to 23 24 to file the stock form if it's

037summer school we were told 2122 so it is dat sensitive we have to go back and claim all those costs and the cost include clud industry student so if you are providing services to for to Industry student you should be able to look at the IP of the services that the kids are getting and come up with a cost estimate for the particular student is student by student if a kid has a one to one Aid how much do we pay the one to one Aid what kind of benefit that it's analyzing every student and all the services including student related Services even if a kid goes to boses and we provide ABA Services right home services we can tag on that cost and get our state aid back that's what is called the expense

038based Aid it is being very meticulous with your reimbursement request thank you um Olivia just another quick question please yes hi um the other day we were given the F fund yes those are the federal funds correct is that in the $45 million no we're not accounting for it they are they by themselves okay when I did the presentation last week I showed you the flowchart of the funds that we have in the district we are now working on general fund only the federal funds stand on their own that's the idea grants and then we have title grants those are separate and Po from the general fund okay I have a question go or two comments at on March 1st when we first saw this for the first time I and I'm sure many other

039people in the room were really taken with the um the notion that once again the budget is depending on the $2 million bailout so now two years in a row from local government I did not really take notice at that time that it's also depending on 2 million from the fund balance oh just kind of flew over my head two weeks ago sorry about that well I just think it's you know when you say that the the deficit we're working with is you know 40 4 749 th000 that's presuming we're going to get 2 million from local government and we are going to take two million from our fund balance which is our rainy day fund so that's four million that's not sustainable not replenishable so that's unnerving to say the least the other thing

040thing I just want to point out I think it's an error um the bottom 121 191 that number when you flip to the next slide you changed it to 121 791 oh sorry about that good catch you you should have called me good catch so yes it should be 121 191 correct correct so instead of that being 749 it's 1.3 mil it's a balance of $600,000 yeah you're right about that so $600,000 plus4 million that that's a big budget Gap so but we we are still working through fund balance analysis so we'll get to the fund balance we will update the fund balance and get to and see where we are with fund balance because we are doing very well with Revenue as we speak okay and I guess I just want to say you

041know pretty soon we'll go back back to the line by line and it's tedious and it takes time and it took four hours to go through 30 pages last week at the end of it there's going to be really hard cuts that everyone as a community is going to have to face and people are going to ask all of us did you go through every single line and try to squeeze every ounce of money you could get out of that budget and I want to make sure we can face the community and say yes we did we went through every line and looked for savings everywhere um and we we we we we took a step forward in that direction cabinet and we compiled a whole list that was going through the entire budget line

042by line and coming up with you know if there's anyone if there's a story and we know that we can cover it another way because the Mandate we're given is come up with a bebone budget and that's what we're doing we went through it and we came up with three pages of cut and talking to people are you going to need this if not we're going to continue going through it see you did a lot of work and we're all gonna continue doing it it's still going to be hard at the end thank you very much but Olivia you just mentioned the bare bone budget that was requested so you are creating the barebone budget with no increases to anything but contractual obligations but with the thoughtfulness that you don't know what will happen you

043do not know the kid that will walk through that door so even with all the B bone budget you have to have some thought process you have to estimate some safety within certain codes to take care of any unforeseen expenditures that will come during implementation and we had a lot of those circumstances last year last two years yes yes when we had five students entered the school district right that that's something that can happen any time you can anticipate it but the best thing is to build a little safety in the budget that's why everything that we do the hiring practices and everything we have to be careful and make sure that we monitor the processes very carefully on an ongoing basis so if we secure the additional $1 million in state aid and secure

044the $2 million based on this we'll be left with two $600,000 balance to deal with that's if we get all the monies that we anticipating right now I said the Delta was going to be 749 if we get additional $1 million in state aid then we have about $300,000 deficit that we have to deal with we have to go back into the budget to see where we can make cuts and or we have to look at our Revenue stream again and see whether there are areas that we think the revenues will go up a good example is the facility that we are thinking about which was shared with you in a second I'm not supposed to say yeah we can say right now the rental we can't say right now yeah which line has the

045$1 million additional shown in the revenues we are projecting we are saying that on the on SL if we get $1 million more here it will help us to cushion the budget but you're showing the 759 which is what's posted on the New York State website yes this is what is posted in the New York State website this is the governor's budget right this is not from the legislature and the indication we've been getting the alerts that have been getting which I'll share with you next this Friday is that both houses are advocating for about 3% increase in Foundation Aid if that comes to fruition it means that our state aid will go up a little bit they are advocated for a minimum of 3% increase in state aid for all school districts if that

046comes to fru fruition and we get an increase in our expense based Aid then our number here the $45 million may go up we don't know how we will land at this point in time right now you can't put it in because there it's nothing this is the number we have from the governor right we don't have what the state the real St numbers yet it will be released April 1 thank you so scenario two if we secure the additional $1 million in state aid but we are unable to secure the 2 million in financial assistance what are some of the strategies that we are planning and we will one of the we'll look at we have a security consultant who comes in twice a week two times every week we'll look at the cost

047and see what we can do about it either eliminate it or not we'll go back to review Transportation my colleague has done an extensive work on this this is what he and I were working Olivia just move the mic just a little bit more he and I were working on this the whole weekend and then we will decrease after school activities to reduce the cost of security building use is one of the areas where we've been expending a lot of money yes it is our community yes it's our taxpayers but we have to look at it very critically and see whether there are some Savings in that area then we will reduce one position eliminate El and mon instructional C coach at the high school these are some of the things that we are working

048through we continue to work through those strategies so I I just have a quick question so as you are working through this um the the four bullet points that you have there do they add up to the 2 million or you're working to get them to the we are working to get to the two okay and we are hoping that this is the expense side we are also hoping that we will get additional Revenue okay it may be premature if you can't answer that's okay but how close do you think you are to that 2 million right now we can go back to the table I can I can see 500,000 here that's my question I just have a question before we move on what is the the services of the district security consultant like

049what do they actually do that they're here once or twice a week um he's responsible for putting together the safety plan and this position came about when you know when we have act an active shooter in the district they they usually have um law enforcement background so they are able to lead because most of us do not have that background so they help us in that regard and they are the company he works with they continue to train us on some of the things that happens to and some of the preventative measures that we have to take to avoid any kind of incident and anytime there's an incident in the nation they send us an alert to tell us some of the things that we should avoid in our schools I also know that the

050person that we're talking about um he's been working very closely with State on the new districtwide safety plan correct as well as Homeland Security bring them in to do a higher level of active shooting training correct so on this page I'm very concerned with the potential the pl the staff cuts um so you know this is this is a new position so oh those are the new positions yes a new position so it will not be a cat it is a new position that will be eliminated did we also create other new positions that are still in like there was like some additional the accountant the accountant is in um I think I think that's just about was it social workers social worker psychologist those it still in yes but all these Cuts right here

051these are all I and then we have positioned for a new Strife class so those position we anticipate an increase in enrollment so we have to we have to take care of that I believe the last meeting when we were speaking about the uh accountant it was with the idea that they were hopefully going to with the savings and everything that they would provide would kind of be self-funding for that position correct correct correct and I think we need to keep in mind that there were some positions that we had suggested that we we would like in the budget as we move forward we're going to have to make the decision if we want some of those positions to stay in or or not stay in I guess I'm kind of curious the attachment that

052we got the other day that shows um cuts that you made are are you going to go through that separately from this or are you going to integrate it in the line by line budget it's already integrated in the that's why I gave you a new a whole new copy everything is included in the copy that I gave you the newest line by line right okay sorry I brought my old one but we're going to continue going through it the only thing I did was I maintained the same page numbers so that it's easier on the eye because when we are going through the budget it's a lot of pages so I try to keep the page numbers the same okay thank for instance we are going to special education and it's page 37 right

053so we're go to page 37 now you guys all at 37 are you at 37 Carol and Caroline at 37 you're at page 37 my old copy do you you want to get a copy from the from the front or there was copy that were provided to us in the boardroom EX I feel bad I'll I'll work from the old one okay okay go ahead U oliv okay go I'm sorry Lizzie had a question yes I I just anybody has question on page 37 all right so I'll go around Leslie anything go ahead I do um for the uh Park Avenue speech teachers um you increased it by 35,000 do we have two speech teachers there Par Avenue is oh I'm sorry um 1013 11111 or3 right mid way almost low is that the one

054you're talking about yeah1 no Park Avenue speech it's a little bit below the Bottom Park Avenue speech that's the one that's a little bit below the middle yeah oh okay it's 101 right um we had an approved budget of $211,000 for 2425 we only have spent 50,000 yes and now your budget is 245,000 again and then we oh I'm sorry we increased it to 34 are there two or three teachers there now or let me see I I I'll because I have to go through my details to get it so I'll give you the response on Friday that's fine thank you Chris do you have anything on this page no Megan anything Missi um St Martin special ed does that represent one full-time special ed teacher yes in St Martin's yes okay doing resource room

055yes thank you Megan um between the two versions I have oh I'm sorry it's I guess it's going down the Northwest AIDS and the Park Avenue AIDS yes those are the ones those are one some of the cuts that I gave you in the list in the file from yesterday yes okay anyone Caroline anything else my only observation about the whole page is that there seems to be a lot of variability like is it just people moving around no it is it is based on salari projection yes and people moving around from last year to this year there was a lot of movement lots and lots of movement okay we're going to go to page 30 8 Chris anything uh yeah I'm just comparing the new one versus the old one know um so I

056had on the older one I had special ed Administrator salary is increasing 569 but now I'm seeing the new one it's a decrease of 12431 yes that was that was the code that if you go back to the list we have the one with the yellow the list that I gave you which looks like this there's a a if you match the code there is an IEP facilitator that we put in that code that we remov we eliminated 134,000 right okay 134,000 mhm you see it yes I see it now you see it yes thank you Leslie since I'm on that side anything just just where is the assistant um director of um director education yeah well a good question where is their salary yes that assistant special education director is paid from a grant

057so you don't see it here oh I don't remember that yes yes yes always has been paid from a gr okay thank you Mr waty third from the bottom the OT and PT services that represents all out outsourced Services thank you yes so did the conversation happen again about bringing in our own people to save money I do realize the specifics of EPS but is that a conversation that's come you know happening this is an exorbitant amount of money yes but because of it's It's also because of the uniqueness as you said of the services uh where it is more beneficial especially with speech we bring in speech teachers but some of these services are so unique to the kits and it's all driven by students IEP so as we go along you see that

058this year is going down in the past couple of years this is where we' got a lot of strain on the budget we are looking at each vendor how much they charge us and this is one budget code that we are going we looking at all their time sheets to make sure that this what they charge is indeed for the services that they provide so it's it's also looking for savings within that code yes to your point when there's a when we can provide it better with our own employee we go that route and you can see that we said there was some spee teachers in the 2425 budget as well as a proposal to bring in a spee teacher Mary am I right yes in that 25 thank you I I just for that

059particular same line I because I know was a conversation that occurred last year when it comes to OT PT and the other Support Services the question that I have is I know you said depends on the I AP and the needs of of those individual students so it's it's typically probably several OT and PT individuals that are working with with the students so it may be hypothetically four to five OT PT individuals that make come into the school or they may depending what the needs of the student they may have to go to that individual correct one more yeah go ahead one more quick one I see we have of course we have um special teaching assistant in all the schools then we have a districtwide special teaching assistant for 84,000 is budgeted for uh

06025 26 we have not used uh in 2425 we did not use the 84,000 that is an excellent question because when you are putting together a budget especially the special education budget you have to put in some kind of safety based that's what we were talking about because if a kid walks in September one and need a one to one Aid we have to be able to provide those services so you have to all those now because say you don't have anywhere else to go to get the money to pay for it okay thank you I'm sorry Megan count I think I miss um on 38 still yeah we're still on 38 I'm okay can I can I go to 39 you go ahead 39 um I'll start at the end Caroline any any questions

06113 39 this is one were you reduced 2250 I'm look I'm comparing it to the subtractions good catch yeah so can you explain what that is yes a very good catch what happened was I we sat with uh the director of special education and she told us that she will be bringing back about three students who are currently at bosis and it's on the list okay first page mhm that's the Bosey Center op three talking about correct correct three students so we'll be servicing them in District instead of placing and that is the exact C cost you see the one of them you know they are very significant thank you Carol anything no Megan Chris or Leslie page 40 any questions Chris lesli on that side Megan Carol Carol line V for 41 this is

062bosis Ed yeah I do um all the in the bottom there's nothing spent or budgeted for the upcoming year why is it so inconsistent yes um this is some this is an area that we work with uh if you recall if you look at the appropriation status report that we report every month there was a def there was a line with 108 negative so we work I work with um Miss Stevens and what we are doing here is to repurpose All the Monies and put it into this line which line see this okay we are putting it all at the high school that next page got it okay okay thank you so all that just goes okay it's a shift got it any other questions so we we went from 41 to 42 yes 42

063anyone no I think that's clarified my question on summer school yes we are we are putting it all under one line because it all occurs at the high school instead of spreading it all over the building okay that clarifies for me so 43 nothing on 43 we're on page 44 uh yeah I have a question um the top line Looks like we created a new position last year and now we're um ending it the librarian yes that that position moved to another building it was this is all the changes that we made when uh at the beginning of this year that position moved to another building I think that position moved to Park Avenue I think but they have I guess it looks like all the buildings have one but Northeast yeah North North we

064eliminate that position yes that just created last year yes that position was eliminated okay but I guess I was surprised to see it was it a new position last year because I it doesn't exist in the first two columns that position was I I just don't want to mention names but that position was okay was switched to another building okay and I'm also further down the line it almost it almost looks like we built a library at Northeast with the position and them getting way more in supplies um and books yes because the because of the movement of the first grade K I'm sorry K from Northwest to Northeast the libraries over there got a little bit more so that they can do their libraries but that was that was last year though it's I'm

065not looking at this year's column I'm looking at last year's column I'm just surprised that last year is that the supplies code yeah equipment yeah the equipment right the one for 18,000 oh but a 2425 school year she's referring to this one here yeah it just yeah this is something that we have to look at okay if it's something that we have to trim back we can trim back I mean if kindergarten is now moving to Northeast you know we're always wondering what's happening in 2425 we may not need this you're right thank you any other questions on this page so it does that mean you're going to look at that line item still look at it depending on page 45 I I have questions okay start with Leslie I I'm uh for the middle

066school why is it so high the budget uh oh for the library books 20,000 versus 3,000 3,000 3,000 for the other schools and then go ahead 390 for the high expenditure for from last year I have to I have to find out she I I know she is on top of her library but right does that technology also no it doesn't include technology but she stays on top of her budget and she Wills whatever she had last year okay yeah but something that we have to look at to see whether it's Equitable okay because it's it's it's a little bit too okay all right right so that's an area that that that's an area that will be reviewed third from the bottom the uh Bose NASA Ed communication that's jumping by quite a bit what

067is that this is for um third from the bottom yeah this is the 94,000 um this is oh this is for the we have a we have a COA with nasau boses where they come and get and check all the pr in the district um pet is here so and you know they give us all the tonas and everything else so that's where we budget for it so is that same amount coming out of another line somewhere no coming from here can I follow up to that one well in one second is is it but you know what I'll double check it to see because we pay about 7 ,000 for ton districtwide and we get it through this nasau bosis coer and so this is aable correct this is all aable anything any anytime

068you see a number with four n zero after the first four digits it's all bosies and it's all aable but why would it go up if it's just toner like are do you expect the toner usage to go up no like if you see no if if you look at 2223 we spent we spent yeah um 78,000 last year we spent 93,000 23 24 2324 it means that the budgeted number here is a little too low this should be the correct budget because if you compare it right across yeah okay right got it yeah thank you go ahead Chris you have a question those were both of my questions but so what what caused the the budget to be so low last year when we had already spent over that amount the previous years I

069was going back and forth ask where Olivia we're going back and forth as to where that should these are very detailed research that you do for every code and sometimes once in a while you don't you miss it okay just to clarify that originally it was budgeted in 5011 and that's why it's reflecting a lower amount last year and it was switched to this code okay can we move on to page 46 nothing on 46 oh you go to 47 please got to compare all right I'm going to start on this and once you're ready between um she just explain what changed between um is there any way that you can maybe sh with us what what has changed instead of us trying to go back and forth um do you do you remember off

070hand we're trying to take a look we're trying to compare the old with the new most of these are boses Services um it starts from here down these are completely aligned with the prior this is where we pay our Tech um this is where we pay our Tech four Tech gu all together we have seven we have senior engineer we have two Tech uh Pete correct me if I'm wrong we have a senior engineer we have two Tex we have two data analyst right four text and two data analyst and that is included in this line and that's the $1.5 million that you are looking at yeah he's coming up good evening just speaking to the mic for us thank you um all right so that code it does it provides um all of the

071on-site Engineers um but it also provides our Chromebook Insurance uh in um provides money for our endpoint security which is on all of the servers and all the desktops throughout the entire District um we are responsible for purchasing St Martin's devices each year so money for St Martin is allocated in that code as well um the yearly phone support is including in that code the Alcatel our network switch Co um money is in that entire code which is all on network switches throughout all the closets and all the buildings um a lot of our Wi-Fi support and um clear pass um software is included in that all that one point uh with 1.5 million um but that's all through bosis it's all um I think what 60% aable basically and I want I also wanted

072to clarify the computers and the services that we provide St Martins we are required by law to give them on a location and that is aable from the state directly so we we budget for it we pay it out but then we get it back but we don't we don't get it back until the next we don't get it back till the next year so when you see the $45 million of state aid that is included there what would the return okay and then the $90,000 increase what the $90,000 was one data if you look at the list that I off Cuts I took out $71,000 was from somewhere because she was budgeted in this code instead of the one that I cut if you look at the top sheet there's a data analyst $71,000

073that was cut that has now been included in this number that's why you see it here plus 20,000 last year um last year bosies had our sent one antivirus under a different line they moved it to this line it's out of our control just what did they we said again our Sentinel one it's our mpoint virus protection for all the computers it's approximately 50,000 a year so that was in one code B moved it to a different code this year so all rolls up into this same code at the bottom W go ahead um the districtwide computer software for music We haven't used it at $6,000 you want to just keep it in case or can we um we use that that's um they have software that they use every year um depending on if

074we have to expand the licenses um we kept that in there in case they needed more okay okay thanks any other questions on this page we'll go to the next page we're on page 48 just go back to the mic please thank you these are all services that we get directly from bosis um can you explain a second from the top why such a big jump for this year yes um this is for Chromebook perchase it learning resources this is pro we are ordering about $140,000 of new Chromebook this is something that we always it's Chromebooks we keep buying Chromebooks because they have a life cycle so every year and we are going away from the lease we used to lease them and it doesn't makes sense to be leing them every year so we

075are now going to into purchasing them every year so we don't have to in care the Lee expenses on the Chromebook so from now on we'll be buying them directly because anytime we go through bosses even though we get bosses eight and we lease them they are financing charges and we want to avoid that I'm sorry so that's only a fraction of Chromebooks I'd like to like understand better that lease versus the purchase because it seems like with the lease we have more support uh on technical issues we still have we still have whether we purchase it or Losee it we still have technical support from boses if needed and we do buy the um the Chromebook insurance so also for boses so if there's a problem with any uh of the Chromebook we send

076it to boses a vendor through who is who has signed up from for with boses to fix it for the kids want um so yes in the past the district has Le um say we approximately get, 1500 Chromebooks per year but for that fiveyear lease you're paying 20 to $25,000 in finance charges every year so this year trying to save money we're purchasing 300 Chromebooks direct which will cover us for the year um we have uh Chromebooks for the incoming sixth graders already put aside we get the returning seniors Chromebooks that we use for parts or replacements for lost or stolen and then we have these 300 additional Chromebooks that will purchase direct um so working with Olivia just trying to cut out the finance charges this year we're still purchasing $140,000 through bosei so

077we still get the state aid on that but you're not paying $20,000 of finance charges for the next five years wow I will comment too if you don't mind um in that same budget line it also increased because um currently our servers are hosted on what's known as VMware VMware was purchased and bought out by a company called broadcom for the last two years we''ve been struggl with licenses just like every other school district on Long Island it was a big topic of conversation at Western suff boses the other day at a model schools meeting I was at um we got lucky we got our licensing renewed using funds from last year so it didn't impact our line this year because we had already had it set aside but in the meantime we've made a

078decision like again most districts we're going to start migrating to Azure Microsoft Azure versus VMware it's another Cloud hosted solution instead of what we have now the other reason VMware pricing has escalated significantly some school districts have seen almost 304,000 in price increase whereas Azure you kind of put in what you want so we're estimating about $50,000 right now so we could build our servers in their storage facility in in cloud-based um migrate our data to those devices but then that cuts out our need for VMware for so this year we didn't spend the money that we allocated for VMware because we used last year's funds and now that we're allocating that plus the Azure money for next year that's what shows a little increase well an increase in this code planning ahead for that

079um we also have data cord devices which is our our main storage units of all the data for the district they're becoming end of life in the next year so we're also trying to Race Against Time to replace those before we have problem that's all in that second line learning resources and you had said on the previous page that was the Chromebook insurance was under the land Network support but the course of the Chromebooks is under the media learning resources did I hear that correctly B is actually specify the coer that we have to use because they use it for State purposes and these are the cses this this these numbers let me go back they under 20 these are the courses and we have to we have to budget it under those codes and

080it's very interesting because they keep on changing it on us because it depends on the group the team that is working on it at boses as well so they keep on changing it and we have to change accordingly because because of the state aid they have to calculate the state aid and send it to the state also if I just may add in that code and you can elaborate further is the go Guardian Chromebook monitoring um software and also Al the Cyber nut no before that yes that one's all under the 14 the 504 right yes yes yeah go Guardian our Smartboard Learning Suite that the teachers use for smart software um our cyber nut which is our cyber security anti- fishing uh training for the staff we're in the process of rolling that out

081using it right now um that's mandated by New York state every year to provide training for the staff um our Apple management software that manages all the iPads is involved than that like I mentioned Azure and then also um our yearly support for we have um known as centripetal devices that work in tandom with the firewalls and it monitors all the ingoing outgoing traffic of the network and then it can Shield or block you know um bad stuff like on the flly so that's all included thank youas so light oh I don't have it in front of me Chris hasn't in front of me but I thought there was a um a deduction towards the technology Improvement plan can you speak to that what was that I just curious what because that that would be

082a future thing was it is it was it $65,000 or something like I don't know I'm sorry I'd have to look on my computer just go to the mic for me thank you this is this is the this is the code that uh Megan UST Megan mman is talking about we cut it down to 25,000 and it's on the list I'm not sure I can't really see this screen is that referring the deferral of the technology plan to 2026 yes that's what I'm because the technology plan is deferred to 2026 so we don't need it this year so we cut it back to 25,000 what does that mean what do you mean what are we deferring okay because it sounds like we have a lot of Technology we are supposed to come up with the

083technology plan and that what the basis for you know for planning purposes and every five years I see and we don't have to put up a new one until 2026 okay so we reduce the budget line okay understood thank you sorry for the confusing question oh no that's that's fine thank you it was on the list of 2.3 yes oh I believe yeah yes thank you can we go on to page 49 I think we are done with technology we're done with technology at this point so we're going to page 50 ladies and gentlemen one page 50 any question the middle yeah the Middle School attendance teacher are we adding a position we are not adding a position what happened last year was that that there were changes made by the board last minute there

084was a recommendation that was made and then it was changed last minute so we have to re we had to main this budget for 20 2425 so it's because the 2425 budget was actually reduced that person was reinstated fulltime equivalent they were going to cut it the FTE back but it was reinstated last minute so this person is now in as one FTE so our actual expenditure this year should end up more like what we're budgeting for next year thank you yes okay thank you any other questions on the page can can I understand the importance of the attendance teacher because I thought so don't we get the automated that my kids's absent through parent Square now that's so the the automated message that notify parents of their students tardy or absence I guess if

085you fail to call the offense yes you get the notice yes it goes through but the attendance teachers role you know extends beyond that um as we were talking earlier about pens that person initiates pens deals with the uh chronic absenteeism severe absenteeism is a part of the school-based attendance uh teams that reach out uh along with the family Liaisons the social workers the counselors to the family's home that's the person that takes the lead in following up on those attendance related matters any other questions thank you for expanding on we're GNA go to page 51 any questions on page 51 no questions on 52 or supplies I'm g go to page 53 I have a question uh third from the bottom from 53 yeah 53 whyde fluctuations from year to year could you speak

086to that is T from the bottom yeah the districtwide looks like Professional Health Services yeah this is this is additional nurses that we need substitute nurses um we had this was coover time 159 is that what you are talking about 159 then down almost by half and then up by a lot down and up if you look here what we have been trying to do and Dr Wait help me out here um we've been bringing in part-time nurses to do the coverages during the day so we used to use nurses that we hired from agencies we are now bringing in our own people because it's more efficient that way they move from building to building to cover lunches and when a one of the nurses is out we use our own employee to fill the

087spot so we find that to be more much more efficient plus the benefit of that is that they know the cases MH okay thank you I piggy back on that so since last year we only spent 73,000 and to this point this year we've only spent 30 do we need do we still need to budget for 115,000 I will look at that okay thank you any other questions on page 53 page 54 yes um second from the bottom Health Services for other districts yes we haven't spent anything to date this year but it's a big chunk of money to budget for so they they actually because it's based on attendance this is kids who are enrolled our kid kids who are enrolled in other school district private and parochial schools the school district where they

088are located the the school district of location builds the school district of Resident for all the health services psychological nurses and all that does it come in at the end of the year yes you have been seeing all the consultant agreements that has been coming in it comes towards the end of the year because they have to make sure that the kids are in attendance throughout the year thank you any other questions on this page page yes um I had the middle school psychologist salaries was increasing to 100 by 120,000 but then on the new budget it's increasing still but only by 55,000 yes um there was a position that I had to move around in the new budget because at the time that I was doing the budget there was a one teacher that

089was replacing the other one psychologist that was replacing the other and I made a mistake of using the two names so I took one out okay and one more I for the high school and the middle school it's such a drastic difference in the is there more psychologist in the Middle School no it's it's employee specific but I'll check double check the names again and see how much we projected for each of them so how many psychologists are there in the Middle School let me let me see what I yes uh let me see what I have here so I'm sure it's more than one person it's more than one and and a good a let me take that back because the psychologists who are assigned to the people Personnel Services are located at the

090middle school they are included in that code so that code looks like it has more people because those are not assigned specifically to the middle school but because they are people Personnel Services and that department is located at the middle school we combine them in that code so it looks as if the middle school has more psychologist no two of them inde in fact do not report to the Middle School principal they are part of people Personnel Services okay that makes sense thank you any other questions on page 56 any questions on 56 can I go to 57 or we I'm going to 57 yes uh the big jump in um co-curricular supervision for the middle school and the high school is that for bringing back clubs yes okay thank you any other questions on

091page 57 we going to page 58 any questions on page bris yes um the athletic supplies increase is that anything due to the uh mascot change or is that just no it's uni it's uniforms that we would already be ordering or ones that we're ordering because the the mascot change once we will be ordering because of the mascot change okay uh I have a question on the um middle school high school game supervision are we over budgeting game supervision yeah last year it was just taking the middle school we budgeted 47,000 um two years ago 47,000 last year this year we budgeted 880,000 we've only we spent 26,000 if we double that most of that expense occur at the end of the year uh either middle of the year or and some of them you

092know this is where we get time sheets at the end of the year there's a lot of expenditure that occur between May and June and July as a matter of fact and the same controls are in place that were implemented last year correct but it's still a big jump to go from like two years ago I know this year is still outstanding so we don't know what this year is going to be but two years ago like taking the high school it was 134 and now we're budgeting 200,000 does it really need to go up by that much the game supervision look at what we in the 2223 school year yeah you see we spent 244 4,000 and then we cut back and it's going back up game supervision it all depends on what happens

093um but it's something that I would go back and discuss it with uh the director of that department to see whether we can cut back a little bit or not yeah like maybe we were over Staffing correct two years ago and then we got it on track and now off we'll discard that thank you anything else in p 60 this is all the transportation where we are reflecting the increase in transportation but as soon as the RFP is released and we get a result RFP is released and we get the results um we would know exactly what to do with this code so this may change this may drastically yes before budget adoption right but right now you have it on you have it on the high end right now correct yes because Transportation budget

094is you have to be careful because if you overspend your transportation budget you can pull in any lines from other codes Transportation you have to stay within the transportation budget the LA doesn't allow us to bring in monies from other code into Transportation you can decrease it but you can increase it can you remind uh remind us of the RFP timeline um we sent it back to council today okay to review and it will be we put the ad in the papers is going to be it's going to be published next week and as soon as we see that it's in the papers we will send it out to vendors and is it like a six week window to respond four weeks I think we're going to make it a little shorter about four weeks

095uh within four weeks we should know okay all right thank you go ahead Chris um for the field trips I know you that those are built in there because we're hopefully going to have them and they were built into the current budget because we can't if it can be moved out but it can't be moved in just wondering what you're basing the numbers off of because like the Middle School field trips 22 23 I'm assuming maybe because of following covid it was lower but it was 10,000 last year it was 5,200 and then it we approved 13,000 but now it's getting budgeted for 32,000 and then the high school is getting budgeted for 46,000 yes oh Dr CT is going to take that yeah because I was just asking I think I think some of

096these trips in 23 24 were Grant funded but I'll give it to Dr talvin go ahead that's absolutely correct um Bill trips were heavily supported through the grant funds and now that those have waned off um um the general fund will need to carry those fully so what about the 22 23 were those also Grant funded okay yes well I'm just want because it's still a drastic number between those two years okay so um to ask further then do we have the other half of the field trip costs in the budget or we just so right this is just transportation for field trip but where do we have actually the cost to go on field trips yeah uh what do you mean is uh the the gate you know if there's admission and all that

097it's usually budgeted in the uh building code uh because that's not transportation we only take transportation from here although Transportation usually is the highest cost transportation is more expensive than sometime the admission fees so is it in the budget for next year yes is it and it's one trip per grade planning uh Mary I we're planning about two trips next year instead of one yes Chris sorry and the um Middle School field trips so we were those also Grant funded last year most of it was Grant funded okay but we have to all the grants have expired so we have to now take it up any other questions on this page um 61 I'm going to I don't think there's anything on 61 anything on 62 going to 63 wait I'm sorry back in 62

09862 nothing's budgeted for summer camps yes um we we you we had summer camp it was taken over by the grand I don't know whether we will be doing them but if anything at all we expect the grants to pick it up this summer right yes we do still have money in our recobs grants so we plan to do our summer enrichment programs through the recop grant that includes breakfast and lunch also on that gr not included in the grant but the uh summer feeding program would cover that it will okay thank you 63 yes um for the on the health insurance line the bottom line yes last budget I mean uh last copy that we had it was increasing by 684 th000 but now it's only increasing by 556 was there a retirement because

099because when we cut the positions we also cut the health insurance if you go to the yellow sheet that I sent you the last three lines or four lines there is a line about four of them three of them include health insurance $32,000 a piece for family coverage see okay see it so all that that large amount of um health insurance change was just one person no about three oh three people through that one employee no no one employ three employees positions that will be eliminated is it it's on the bottom it's it's towards the bottom it's not all it's not all one line it's multiple lines oh okay yeah there's one for 30 the last one is 32 last one the last one is 32 then you see another 32 another 32 that's for

100four okay now I see I thought it was all in in one area because we have to go back to health insurance code and cut it that's what I we did can I go to 64 65 this is Debt Service yes um this is all you this is this is the library debt the 598 th000 this is a projected amortization no this is real amortization for the library debt and it's a pass through the district pays for it and the library will reimburse us if you go to the top page you saw a revenue inter fund transfer it's I had 1 million $169,000 this piece is included there because we'll be getting it back from the library we pay it and they give it us back the money but when it when it comes it

101comes back for the following year budget no same year okay same year okay and these are the principal and interest cost for the 2016 Bond primarily the 2.2 million and the $2.3 million here it has here 2019 you mean correct because the money for the 2026 Bond the monies were borrowed over three we went through about two phases mhm the first phase was about 53 million and the second phase was about 12 million so each of them has its own amortization schedule okay can we go to 66 66 this is interest on tax anticipation notes $700,000 and this is the energy performance contract the PRI the PRI energy performance contract that's the interest and the least expense principal and financing cost of the energy performance contract then we are required to fund 20% of summer

102school July and August summer school this is the estimated cost of District share all summer program for six week special education program are funded by the state at 80% including the cost of Transportation but the other 20% has to come from the district and this is the 20% that the district has to pay TOS summer school program for special education kids who have a 12mon i m go ahead yeah going back up to the Tans do you anticipate us needing one for this year rates have been I haven't seen interest rate it goes with the market I don't think you know this is a projection of course but I don't think we will need more because our farm balance situation is getting a little better okay thank you any other questions on this page I

103have other questions but not so I I think we we went through the entire line by line but right anything else that you have for us because I think there may be some general questions that some of the board may have I think we'll go back to we'll go there were about four areas that were identified we will look through that and if there's any cuts that we can make that will increase our 2.3 to you know it will increase it further and this will make it very good for the budget okay whilst we wait for state aid to be released um I think I think it's some general questions but I don't know if you want to sit down and then you can answer the question would love to see them okay okay I

104so I again I don't have my print out that some do um but there was some indication of cutting back on the mentoring programs or no it was it it wasn't cutting back I we realized I realized that it was budgeted in another place so I took one out okay and um also building level leaders same thing oh so it was in the wrong line correct and I moved it and I cut it back you moved it and you cut it back but it's not eliminated no it we have we have a budget line for it okay so if I may at the March 1st meeting um additional Services was highlighted correct and so when we researched what was actually contained in that line item it was a duplication correct of the building levels and

105mentors so it's it's removed but the positions are not eliminated because they are budgeted elsewhere correct okay and I guess earlier in the year we were talking about um oh I forget the name of your plan I guess it's I don't think it's your professional development plan Mary Shake her head and she knows what I'm going for uh but for this second and third year mentors is that still in the budget so I think it's currently still in the budget the professional development plan um we are working on and we do have recommendations for shifting that but I I do think the full amount is still in the budget correct so you have recommendations to change the plan but it's not reflected in the budget correct we have have not completed our plan or presented

106it to you yet when would that be I'm assuming we want to get it correct in the budget right since we're looking for a lot of savings here okay right oh okay maybe so the mentoring program is budgeted for 2526 as it stands okay and the um professional development committee are actually going through and crafting reviewing the plan plan and so once we hear all of those recommendations the rationale and I know that we were also looking at refining roles and responsibilities so all of that's underway and then for 2627 we will be recommending a change as of right now it's in the budget oh so the recommended change would not be affective for next year even though we have a lot of money to find in our budget Che So the plan is due

107April the plan is due April so we should have that recommendation by then so we could potentially consider including it for next year could potentially considering it it's you know in the past it has been a collaborative effort with the um Educators administrators hashing that out and what it would look like so we do want to make sure we receive that in totality so we can bring it back to you any other questions before we move forward on the community input on agenda items yes um wondering if we're expecting uh an impact from Title One funding from federal grants I ALS I was also listening to the news this afternoon I hope not don't we all didn't you say that wasn't that was it a different fund yes it's the different fund the F fund

108but you know the news came out today regarding the title and the Ida funds so we haven't received anything from the state yet because all those funding are passed through from the feds to the state to us we haven't received any news that it will be cut so so say if that is cut does that impact State funding a lot yes because it's a you know the state the state receive it and passes it to us if they cut it at the federal level it will affect what the state receives I mean I mean does title does it impact any of the money that the state say there whatever the amount that the state is the state federal funding makes up only 10% of our monies the rest of it the 90% comes from the

109state and we have not heard anything that the state is going to reduce stateid because of in line with the federal so what that 90% is shouldn't change based on whatever title not to my knowledge not to what I've been listening to or reading okay thank you all right so at at this point in time we will take um Community input on agenda items so that's from the budget presentation the transportation presentation and um anything that's on there related to um the district clerk agreement and use of facilities hi good evening everyone um matteline Quintin M hi everybody good evening okay um um hold on one second yes um Lyn it's it's the 15c one the 15 minute yeah so just stop that one and go ahead you ready yes go ahead oh okay sorry

110all right um I've been I didn't know that y'all had started a little earlier so you may have answered these questions already so if you did just let me know um now how many students do we transport to St Martin's that do not meet the mileage requirement so if you can't answer it now you know just at least um take the question and get back to me we'll take the I don't know if y'all said anything about that before I came in we'll take the question sure so how many students do we transport to St Martin that do not meet the mileage requirement that's number one and number two do we transport to private schools beyond the 15 Mile limit and if so how many and I also just want to say I didn't hear

111y'all say anything about it but uh the community is still in support of Northeast schools staying open and that's all I have to say about that thank you all right and I just need those two questions in just just pause yeah go ahead hi my name is sorry my name is Todd Bryce I'm a parent of two shamnad students I think you also have some other parents in the audience I this is all news to me that we're looking to cut the transportation to private schools um you know I actually learned about this on Facebook last night so uh you know I get a lot of notices from uh you know when to vote when to pay taxes and stuff like that but if we're looking to cut this you we've uh you know these

112boys have uh all of them that gotten into Shan had a lot of choices some of them are just starting as freshman next year a lot of those choices were made around what kind of Transportation they would have to the school right um mine certainly what I'm a single parent so I certainly rely on Transportation I would say you know if you look at the math of this just by doing a Google search sitting here and this was all extremely informative uh you have like 2700 students in amville I think somewhere around there got $122 million budget that's $445,000 per student per year that you spend I would guess in amville you probably have about 500 or so private school kids um you know you're spending uh you're getting that money for freed it's the

113way I see it I haven't seen I haven't seen my kids down though I don't think any of them that go to private school have so you know that money is uh if if all these kids went back to amville school you guys probably have to spend another $22 million sure you're spending $2.2 million to transport our kids to another school that's a deal all right and if we're gonna cut this out you can't do this right now you got to give us some time right you got to give kids time to parents to figure out hey I'm not going to go send my kid to Shaman because there's no longer a bus there right we're going to end up sending our kids on the train or something like that or driving them that's a

114huge inconvenience okay um most of these kids they do take the train home it's a little easier for us to pick them all up in the afternoon or something like that but to delay getting to work because I got to make a 40 minute and yes it's 40 minute drive to Farmingdale and back to drop my kids off is uh it's an exorbitant kind of time expense on a lot of parents make a deal with us if you're G to cut it all right um give us a morning bus do something uh subsidize our train pass right we're all going to now have to pick up a you know $150 monthly train pass right now I see this as like a maybe a44 $4,500 expenditure per kid 2.2 million 500 kids you guys know the

115math I'm sure it's more than 500 kids by the way um you know $4,400 per kid I'm spending more on that at lunch at this school so you know make a deal with us so that we're not inconvenienced um by doing this these are great kids that go into a phenomenal school don't hamstring them by cutting out the transportation that they've had for a number of years allowing us parents to send them to a school that you know isn't as isn't as uh you know convenient as coming to amville or something like that you know it's not the difference of taking a kid that lives in south or something and turning him into a walker I'm sorry I'm going to have to um if you can just wrap up your comments because the buzzer went

116off but it didn't go off but but thank you we heard your comments and we'll be in touch with thank you hello everyone I just need clarification have we already decided to send prek I mean kindergarten to prek next year in in Northeast has that been decided I just need clarification because the last time we spoke it was not decided so the I was surprised to hear that tonight so that is the proposal that has always been the proposal within the last couple of months but April will be the final decisions prior to the board adopting the budget we are hoping to hear uh by that time we will have the legislative numbers and we'll have heard from our local legislators regarding the $2 million funding for Northeast okay thank you you're welcome thank Lynn

117so when when she's talking just pause both buttons thank you go ahead hi good evening Marg sha from Amityville um question on the comment from um Miss buatti regarding the summer school expenditures and then you mentioned it includes transportation that was paid by the state yes so what's the 160,00 000 that's listed in the Summers the summer school busing pamplet uh deck here what's that that is part of the uh expenses do you want to talk about the summer school this is not the summer school expenses for special education kids the one we are talking about is other summer school programs the one that I I was talking about was for kids who are classified 12 Monon IEP those are the ones that the state pick up the state picks up 80% and the 160

118represents what other summer school program that we have in District that's not special needs or that's not special needs okay so what what is your um competition to in summer school busing cuz I remember growing up and they was never a summer school bus ever ever that was that was part of the punishment of having to go to summer school but I think what does what does Copeg do do they have summer school buses is I'm asking you what our neighboring districts do as far as summer school buses are there we provide we provide buses for summer programs here in araville school district I don't know what other school districts do when you say summer programs do you mean summer school do you mean sum are camp do you mean summer camp it's summerr talking

119correct okay so my my question to you is what do our neighbors do do they provide School busing for those like programs we'll find out check out and we have to investigate it and get back to you okay that thank you for that and the other question I had um was regarding the budget because we when at the last meeting we talked about the um the gift of um 2 million or whatever so what happens when they decide that they don't want to come back to the plate or save amville again what happens what's the contingency plan because you have it in the budget as you're going to get this gift from heaven above to get this going but what happens if it doesn't come you're you're counting your chickens before they hatch and we've

120you've learn you've learned that lesson because you paid salaries out of Grants you paid salaries out of covid money like you got to learn your lesson eventually because we're in a school so you learn but it doesn't seem like anyone's learning from the fact that you're counting your chickens before they hatch hoping to God that you get this 2 million so what happens when it doesn't my question to you is what happens if it doesn't come to fruition what's the contingency plan other than taxing your community Dr talin I think I think you did address it already go ahead so there are several options that could take place the board could opt to pierce the cap there will be option two would certainly be additional Cuts so so you're going to cut more staff then

121do you have another recommendation yeah better budgeting but and the other question was to the gentleman uh the statement that I had regarding the uh busing um is all roial school high schools being canceled off this thought process or just you're just zeroing it on shamad no and St so what's can you talk about that because if the if a rumors is swirling about just one school or parochial schools or high schools or the clarity and transparency that we expect hasn't come forth so if you can speak to that I don't know if you're talking about it the that was a conversation that did take place a little bit earlier that Dr talber did explain that if there were stent students that were past the districts that I mean schools that were past the 15

122Mile limit that um they're not supposed to get busing but she also mentioned that if it was more than three years that you can explain that she she did she did explain everything that already in regards to that so so would you send me an email to recap that for me or no I can recap it for you recap right now so public schools are authorized to provide uh private School transportation up to a 15m radius if it exceeds 15 miles then we are not authorized to provide it in the case where a district has provided that transportation for around three years you can opt to secure a pickup point a mutual pickup point that is within the 15m radius okay and so those are the discussions that we are having as to how we

123can support our community at large as well as balance our budget fiscally okay so that's under discussion that's that's a great option a great solution so I applaud that and I also want to point out that um um I was one of I one of the few parents that actually got the the shamnad bus back in 2019 and my son was a senior so I didn't really have that much skin in the game because I did it for the future because here we are paying taxes and the least we could do is get a bus so if we're not sending our kids to the school because of the what we want out of it then at least we should get a bus so that being said but I also want to point out is Sacred

124Heart Academy another parochial school which is in very close proximity to Shamano so you might consider consider sharing the bus between the two schools and having one bus it doesn't have to be a sacred h bus and it doesn't have to be a shamad bus it could be one and that would be another cost savings thank you so the timer went off iir Services were discussed earlier thank you thank you really quick just a couple questions What's the total amount of students that are in The District in total that are going am Bill and also not going am bill like roundabout number I think you said about 2400 over 2700 closer to 2800 so about, 1500 are going in District I mean how many students are in the district going to amville schools but how

125many are going out of District I'm how many how many Olivia is is your microphone still live go ahead and another question I've heard this before what's the amount that the students get or that the school gets per student going to in town schooling it was always like $20,000 somebody mentioned at a meeting last year is that correct I think what you are referring to is how much we pay to Charter Schools and the charter school is about 21,000 what they take from our state to give to char schools is about 21,000 this year 21,300 gotta okay okay thank you um just hold on second I think we don't on the agenda right now we don't have Community input on non- agenda items no no no no no no no what else going to say

126because I know the time is getting ready to go off is the board okay if we just extend the community input on a agenda items and not like another 10 minutes yes yes okay yeah um hold one second can you just you just change the timer for for 10 minutes reset it for just 10 thank you go ahead you wolf uh president Emille Teachers Association 100 Avalon Court uh Transportation obviously um a huge thing um and that has to do with the the the in and out of school uh District uh students um I think that it's very a very difficult thing for us to start thinking about uh students not being able to get that Transportation going to and from school because we are impacting the very community that it is that we're trying

127to serve uh I I do um want to make sure that when we are whatever considerations it is that we are going to be making going forward with Transportation um that whatever decisions that we make are Equitable um we we this the whole thing came up about the whole three miles and and going to that that mainly impacted the students that were going to our schools um so I think that we need to look at Transportation as a whole to make sure that we can still provide that service to all of the members of the community um especially for the ones that go to our school and for those who um have had a history of us being able to provide that service um when you start looking at Transportation um Working Families and all

128the rest of those things how it's impacted who are also going to be responsible for our budget I think it's very important that um we are able to continue to provide that service for them the the extra cost as it relates to the transportation increase um I know that's something that the the district has to heavily consider um but I think that we also have to consider making sure that all of our students in the amville community are able to get the necessary busing to make sure that they um are able to receive the uh academic Services um that they need to move forward and become um our continue to become Scholars whether it's in and um out of our our school district unless we can bring them back which we would love to um

129we still need to make sure that we are providing those Serv Services equally for all of our members so whatever it is for all of our communi so whatever concessions it is that we're thinking about making let's make it across the board but I'm hoping that we'll still be able to find a way to make sure that everybody receives those service thank you Defan andrewsville um first I I don't know if I'm talking talking too loud cuz sounds different here but is there some reason why that speaker can't be made louder and those speakers put in the front like I mentioned the last meeting because I can barely hear I know a lot of other people can't hear and and it doesn't really help the public when you think we could hear what you're saying

130Lord really okay so if we could get that corrected if he could make it louder and I know he doesn't make it loud because he's worried about feedback because he's behind the mics he needs to be in front of the mics which is what I said the last um the second thing I want to bring up is is there forget about the 2 million requested from our elected official again a gift I was at the last board meeting with we were short 2.4 million before that right so we were almost short $4 million is that correct yes okay that's what I thought um the funds requested from I think it was kimbery Jean Pierre got us the money the last time yes uh it's listed in your current budget yes so there's no guarantee we're

131getting that so all these Cuts you talked about don't even take into account that two million is that what you're just saying yes bti so we have to come up with another two the board has to come up with another two million yes if we don't get an increase in state aid and remember was a gift the last time I find it hard to believe after we were warned the last time from improper budgeting that we're going to be given another gift for improper budgeting because that's how this shortfall happens it doesn't happen because all of a sudden a thousand kids moved into the district the library interf fund transfers that as mentioned on page A2 M the library is a separate budget is it not the library has its own budget but in this

132particular instance because the title to the land which the the title to the land on which the library is built belongs to the school district they cannot go out there and borrow money themselves correct so we are borrowing money for them they'll pay us but we have to pay the debt and then they'll give us the money back right and the bud the B the it was a bond correct yes there was a bond a bond is very specific on what it could be spent on it can't be spent on outside that oh that was voted on by the public correct that's lawyer is not here right the lawyer is not here no I think we need a legal opinion on whether you could actually transfer those monies from the library budget which is from

133a bond which is very specific under the law no they are not transferring the money from their the bond the bond that they floated yes will be used for the renovation of the amville public library they are not transfering money not that's not more Mone that's not where they getting their money noral budget it should have been in correct just show all right they'll be getting it from the normal budget and give it to us um page8 two also speaks about nonresident tuition what is the non-resident tuition to go here BST the children tuition is per child so what is a non-resident tuition when a kid is in no I know what it is yes but how much money uh we are getting about $400,000 now no no no per child non resident it depends

134if the kid is classified that they the state gives us a worksheet if the kid is classified it goes out there's a wedding that is used if the kid is a regular education kid it is much much lower but they for non-residents that means they don't belong in the res the amville school district but we we allowed to if they are here as nonresident then we use the nonresident to here as non-residents CU they choose to be here because they were placed here they may be placed here by by ass social what I'm asking maybe I need to be more specific I'm sorry nobody is is anybody asking to send their child here I'm not talking about homeless I'm not talking about placed by DSS I'm talking about someone who decides they want to use

135this District which is allowed under the law Bo approves it if the board approves it of course yes right it is allowed under the LA you don't have any of those type of students correct well I we if the board if a kid say is in their senior year and the board decide to allow them to attend school year here we have one or two oh if they're in the senior year the law allows it the board doesn't get to allow the law allows it you can't but I'm talking about let's say I live in Copeg and I like this basketball team which that somebody tried that once I want my kids to come here they're not entitled to come here we're allowing any of those kids to come here no to the best of

136my we don't allow them but if we know they are here and they are nonresident we have to investigate it and send them an exclusion letter just want to make sure there Stephanie Stephanie Stephanie I'm I'm sorry your time ran out I still have something very important to ask can I can I have you can I have you come back you all right I'll come back thank you I'll let someone else come up go ahead Lynn do me a favor just move move that time back to like maybe four minutes because we weren't turning it on and off at the right time no no I was I no I was saying I was saying to Lynn to turn the timer back like four minutes because we weren't turning it on and off at this at

137the right right yeah that's perfect y thank you go ahead hi my name is Eric romanish um I have two kids in St Martin tours and one currently going to St Dominic's I end up here and I R Rush down here because I heard there is potential proposal that she will be losing her bus my concern comes into not just the fact that she's my daughter on this is also her and a couple of her friends had also just been at Our Lady of Mercy which that school closed after her fresh year and now after her sophomore year is full concern on how we're going to handle getting her to her current school I know there's at least four other families whose children go to St D and it was chosen as a potential school

138because the bus went I don't want I'm not I don't want her to just change schools and I'm going to do everything I can to make sure she could stay there I think it's unfair the parents who made decisions based off where the disc the buses go it's fine to me if they say starting next year any new students will no longer be going there it gives parents a chance to plan but to just cut it off first parents trying to make decisions best thank you for your time thank you defitely you're back uh Stephanie Andrews okay so on page two the district clerk District Clerk's a full-time position in this District now right yes why are we hiring a consultant to help with the election the district clerk should be able to handle that

139and she this is not her first year um this is um the district clerk just started here in January the district clerk just started here in January has never worked as a district clerk um and she has never been a district clerk any other place so the consultant would be allowed to assist her as needed and that's what we're doing as a consultant oh was my understanding she was the district clerk over this is her second year no no she just started January this year my mistake mistake sorry about that um the geese this is a pet PE for me all of us the geese are ineffective anything you're going to do is ineffective you think the village does anything down by the beach and the fields no nobody's doing anything over the Field of

140Dreams in nasto County it makes somebody a lot of money having a dog run around but that's about it they those GE ain't stupid that's why they come back they know when the dog there they leave it so I think you should just eliminate that as a matter of principle okay the summer camp I know there's nothing in that budget line could you tell me what that summer camp is and whose is it there's nothing in it you didn't put in it you didn't fund it but I just want to know what summer camp would we would eventually at one point we talking about maybe it's just a budget line it's just a budget let them is that that's that $10,000 right I think it was but it's nothing now but I just want to

141know nothing now um cuz there was one there was one some time ago I can investigate and get it back to you okay I think that was it was now being funded by by Grant so that's what the question was explained before right that it was a grand grand I think who had a camp no it was I so just a pois it was explained earlier it it's a it is a go ahead Mary very quickly so that particular budget line was several years ago I I don't know how it was used but we are currently funding our summer programs through our recot gr right page 33 the charter schools could you just tell me the total number of Amityville ufsd residents who go to Charter School not the dollar amount the dollar amount is

142there 64 64 okay just so anybody complains about it it's actually cheaper to let them go there because we have higher course when they come here the same with the parochial schools I would know he would love for the parochial schools to come back but it would cost us more for them to come here anybody who doubts that needs to reread the budget and that I believe is it but I'm really concerned that you have already put into your budget the $2 million and then what and then what's going to happen when the you get close to the budget you got to put it out to the public and you haven't gotten that money all right so we the overall timer went over thank you Stephanie I'm sorry the timer went off thank you we're

143gonna get you we're working on on that aspect thank you all right so I'm going to go to the agenda ladies and gentlemen right there's one item that we do have to add and it's going to be under 3a1 all right and when I get to that portion I will mention it so I'll can I have a motion for agenda item 2 C1 please motion second Chris ning is first Caroline Fanning is second and that is the resolution for um resolve the board education hereby approves a Consulting service agreement with e Becca for the period of March 13 2025 up to and including June 30th 2025 and authorize the president of board education to execute the agreement any questions on this item board members no um all those in favor I I I Carol I

144all right motion carries um can I have a motion to amend the agenda to add agenda item 3a1 which is Girls on the Run ma mou so Move Motion second Carol seof is first Megan messon is second any question on this item before I okay all those in favor to amend it can I just say thank you for Expediting it thank you very much all those in favor to amend it to add to agenda I I I motion carries 60 C have a motion for agenda item 3a1 motion second Chris naron Caroline Fanning all those in favor I motion carries 60 can I have a motion for agenda item 3 C1 please motion second Chris nering Caroline Fanning any questions on this agenda item all those in favor I I motion carries um 60 at

145this point in time can I have a motion to adjourn the meeting motion second Chris n is first car see off is second all those in favor I I motion carries 60 thank you for coming